1 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:12,160 Speaker 1: Welcome to The Favorites, the podcast presented by BET three 2 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 1: six five. We are part of the Volume podcast Network. 3 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 1: I am Chad Moman of the Action Network. Today is 4 00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 1: our Tuesday Week eighteen episode. We will break down the 5 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:25,800 Speaker 1: entire slate of NFL games. We'll discuss our exact decision 6 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:29,640 Speaker 1: our Simon says, we'll start to narrow down the options 7 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 1: for our five phaves to put into the last week 8 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 1: of The Favorites podcast one hundred thousand dollars Pro Football 9 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 1: Pick Them contest. We went two and three this past week. 10 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:47,239 Speaker 1: A bit of a theme this year. Live from our 11 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:49,720 Speaker 1: Tommy John Holmes Studios. I'm joined as always buy my 12 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:52,440 Speaker 1: co host, my companion, Mike and padre My BFF professional 13 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 1: better Simon Hunter Simon. I want to be the very 14 00:00:56,640 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 1: first to officially wish you and our audience and Matt 15 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 1: Mitchell and Gifford and Evan happy Happy New Year's December 16 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 1: thirty first, the end of twenty twenty four. We're going 17 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:14,479 Speaker 1: to ring in twenty twenty five. How you doing, buddy? Hell? 18 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 1: Oh so I'm in. 19 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:16,680 Speaker 2: Happy New Year Chat. 20 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 3: Yeah. I'm gonna try to see if I can give 21 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:20,960 Speaker 3: up my favorite thing in the world. For a month 22 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:23,959 Speaker 3: after the New Year's and that's chocolate. So I'm going 23 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 3: hard today on chocolate. People are going out getting drunk, 24 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 3: going partying. Me just eating tons and tons of chocolate. 25 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 1: What kind? What are you eating? 26 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:37,319 Speaker 3: I get a ton of chocolate from England for Christmas, 27 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 3: so I go to town on. 28 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 1: That chocolate with nougat, chocolate with nuts. 29 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:44,320 Speaker 3: Now you know me, I'm a milk chocolate guy. With 30 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:46,480 Speaker 3: caramel's that's my go to. 31 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 1: Salt it do you put any salt? Is it salted? 32 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 3: It salted a little bit? I don't overdo it. I 33 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 3: mean that those chocolate pretzels I send you, those are 34 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 3: the that's the salted, perfect, the amount of chocolate. So yeah, 35 00:01:57,560 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 3: those should be out your doorstep any day. 36 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 1: You those and you love giving those like you're so 37 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 1: excited to give those, and you'd like to tell me 38 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:09,079 Speaker 1: how to eat them. I gotta let it all melt 39 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 1: in my mouth. I can't just chew on my fat. 40 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 1: Appreciated with your instructions on the gift giving h for Hanukah. 41 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 1: My younger son knows me so well. He got me 42 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 1: a cookbook, A thousand ways to cook nuts in your house. 43 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 3: I swear to God, I wish you had opened up 44 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 3: and we've just been a joke of these nuts. That'd 45 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 3: have been great. 46 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:34,919 Speaker 1: I get that a lot here too. Listen. We joked 47 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 1: on Sunday night about how it's been an off year, 48 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 1: uh for us. You know, if you want to your 49 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:42,920 Speaker 1: contrarian better, if you're fading the public, if you like 50 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 1: the bed home dogs, if you're looking for places where 51 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 1: you think the bookmakers are leaning into what they expect 52 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 1: to be group think from the public and shading lines, 53 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:58,119 Speaker 1: shading favorites and tricky trap spots, this has not been 54 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 1: the year for you. It has not been the year 55 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:03,800 Speaker 1: for us. Situations that have gone our way and Better's 56 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:08,960 Speaker 1: ways for years have completely flipped, so much so that 57 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:10,679 Speaker 1: when we had the Broncos at plus three and a 58 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:15,240 Speaker 1: half on Saturday afternoon and lost on a late overtime 59 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 1: touchdown after both coaches had mismanaged the clock and the 60 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:25,240 Speaker 1: Bengals kicker hit the upright on a thirty three yard 61 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 1: field goal to win the game and give us the cover, 62 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 1: it didn't even seem like it was a fluke. And 63 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:34,839 Speaker 1: you know what, Simon, it wasn't. Because on Sunday night 64 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 1: we lost another game in which we had the dog 65 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 1: plus three and a half after a coach mismanaged the 66 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 1: clock and a miss field goal to give us the 67 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 1: cover went awry and a touchdown in ot was scored. 68 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 1: I like, I don't even I didn't even watch it. 69 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 1: I don't know about you. I went to bed. Then, 70 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:05,120 Speaker 1: of course our two wins were booke ended the Chargers 71 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 1: on the road and the Lions on the road. So 72 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 1: you know that's the perfect example of the kind of 73 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 1: year has been, right. 74 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's sickening as someone who, like you just said, 75 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 3: has been doing this for almost half my life at 76 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 3: this point, and you know that Sunday game historically is 77 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 3: an easy, easy winner on that Atlanta team. Okay, the 78 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:30,120 Speaker 3: favorites at that point, I believe, were what twelve and 79 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 3: three or eleven and three, whatever the number was, and 80 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:38,280 Speaker 3: the public got really fat over Christmas break, and the 81 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 3: books usually slaughter them Sunday night they didn't. Okay, that's 82 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:44,840 Speaker 3: fine by me, me and you. I thought our bet 83 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:48,680 Speaker 3: on Detroit was absolutely dead. That bet never ever wins 84 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 3: the Monday night game after the public just has a 85 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:54,159 Speaker 3: weekend like they did. Favorites are whatever at that point, 86 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:56,920 Speaker 3: they're fifteen oh one straight up or fourteen oh one 87 00:04:56,920 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 3: straight up heading into that game, and you know the 88 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:02,599 Speaker 3: guys I respect. I get a call on Sunday and 89 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:06,039 Speaker 3: basically there's some guys I'm convinced their time travelers because 90 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 3: they just never bet. 91 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:08,560 Speaker 2: When they do bet, it's a winner. 92 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 3: They came in heavy on the forty nine ers, Like 93 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 3: as soon as that happened, I'm like, oh, gay Me 94 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:15,679 Speaker 3: and Chatter are going one to four. That's a dead bet. 95 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 3: You know, Brock Pretty comes out is just cruising. They're 96 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 3: putting up twenty one. We're again, it's just an insane game. 97 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 3: And they lost and they didn't cover, like the kicker 98 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:26,599 Speaker 3: missed the kick, like all. 99 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:27,159 Speaker 2: These things happen. 100 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:30,159 Speaker 3: Pretty throws a pick and they get a walk off 101 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:34,839 Speaker 3: touchdown or whatever it was, and it's just been brutal, 102 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:37,039 Speaker 3: like someone that's done. It's a long time. I've never 103 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 3: never experiencing like this. We're betting dumb, bad lines and 104 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:43,599 Speaker 3: that's the only thing winning for us right now. Like 105 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:46,600 Speaker 3: that Detroit bet, Yeah, we basically bet it because we 106 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:48,840 Speaker 3: were just like Detroit's better. They close out games, they 107 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 3: play hard. The forty nine ers suck. They're gonna choke 108 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 3: that game away and they somehow didn't. It just is 109 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:56,920 Speaker 3: never this easy. So it's been again. I can't wait 110 00:05:56,960 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 3: for the season to be over because this is just such. 111 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 2: A freak year. 112 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:04,919 Speaker 3: And yeah, guys, are you know guys braggingly having sixty 113 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 3: percent this season? It's like you, I'm sure this is 114 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 3: the one of every ten years that they win big 115 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 3: because this is just the most flukiest random year ever. 116 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:15,799 Speaker 1: Betting on favorites, well, let me give you some stats 117 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 1: from Evan Abrams to back that up. Favorites have now 118 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:22,159 Speaker 1: gone seventy two percent straight up this year. That's the 119 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 1: most profitable season since two thousand and five, seventy nine 120 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 1: percent straight up since Week thirteen, the least profitable season 121 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:35,600 Speaker 1: for underdogs on the money line since two thousand and five. 122 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:40,039 Speaker 1: Teams getting at least sixty six percent of the spread bets. 123 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 1: We talk about the public all the time. When we 124 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 1: see and we track in the action app the percentage 125 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:48,919 Speaker 1: of bets on one side that is the public, That 126 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 1: is an indication that you usually want to fade it. 127 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 1: This season fifty nine percent against the spread, those teams 128 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:59,360 Speaker 1: are seventy three percent on the money line and thirty 129 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 1: eight and eight thirty six and eight eighty two percent 130 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 1: since week thirteen. Straight up home underdogs another bet we 131 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 1: love to play. It's been automatic for years. The wise 132 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 1: guys know it, the professionals know it. Home underdogs. There's 133 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 1: always value there because that means the team they're playing 134 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 1: is usually better. In the eyes of the public. It 135 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 1: gets shaded in their direction. This year forty three percent 136 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 1: against the spread, least profitable season since two thousand and five. 137 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 1: Here's one for you. Favorites of six or more twenty 138 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 1: nine and one straight up since week thirteen, the only 139 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 1: loss the Giants over the Colts. This past weekend. Favorites 140 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 1: are also sixty nine percent since week fifteen, sixty nine percent. 141 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 1: We see it. Our only wins the past few weeks 142 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 1: have been on favorites. Yeah, you know, the playoffs are 143 00:07:57,880 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 1: just around the corner. So the question is going to be, 144 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 1: and we love the playoffs, The question is going to be, 145 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 1: are we spooked by what's been happening? Are we gonna 146 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 1: revert to the patterns that we've played our entire lives? 147 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 1: Do we think things will go back to normal when 148 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 1: there are two good teams playing like I do think 149 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 1: a big part of the issue this year has been 150 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 1: a real decrease in quality play from quarterbacks and increase 151 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 1: in variance high variants plays from coaches going for it 152 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 1: for two points, going forward and fourth downs, and the 153 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 1: fact that kickoffs have given teams in extra ten yards 154 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 1: and good teams can take advantage of that. You know 155 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 1: we're gonna have to talk about that, but first you 156 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 1: and I may be far, far far out of it 157 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 1: in the contest. We are pros. We don't rest on 158 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 1: the last week of the season, do we. 159 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:55,960 Speaker 2: Now we have to make picks. 160 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 1: Let's go to week eighteen. As a reminder, the Favorite 161 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:01,960 Speaker 1: podcast is present by Bet three sixty five and now 162 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:04,839 Speaker 1: new bed three sixty five. 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Good luck 181 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:14,320 Speaker 1: to all of this year's participants. Matt Mitchell quickly in 182 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 1: the chat. Are we doing Saturday games this week? And 183 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 1: if so, do people have to get it in by 184 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 1: one pm? Sorry if this is later in the script 185 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 1: and I had missed it, But Sunday only Sunday only 186 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:27,080 Speaker 1: this week? All right, Sunday only games this week? Just 187 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 1: so people know, Sunday only. Here's how I want to 188 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 1: lay this out. This show for listeners, Week eighteen is 189 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:36,320 Speaker 1: so weird because of playoff scenarios, draft scenarios, people trying 190 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:40,560 Speaker 1: to figure it out by googling playoff scenarios seventy five times. 191 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 1: What I want for this episode. This is your one 192 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 1: stop shop. I wanted to provide a few things all 193 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 1: in one place for sports fans. We are nothing if 194 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 1: not utility driven. I want this to be what we 195 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 1: know to be the most up to date information about 196 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 1: which teams are playing starters and who isn't. I've been 197 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 1: tracking that, We've all been tracking that playoff scenarios impacting 198 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 1: their decisions. So I want people to understand which teams 199 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:15,320 Speaker 1: are playing for something or nothing, draft orders, and those 200 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 1: scenarios impacting team decisions, and then we'll give our standard 201 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:22,199 Speaker 1: betting advice based on all of the above. We are 202 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:25,840 Speaker 1: not ignoring Saturday games. Cleveland at Baltimore. Baltimore is a 203 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:27,199 Speaker 1: seventeen and a half point favorite. 204 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 3: Well, you want me to run through the list real 205 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 3: quick chat and break down all the scenarios for everyone? 206 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:32,200 Speaker 1: No, No, I'm going to go through them with each game 207 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 1: so people can have it as we get to the game. 208 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:39,320 Speaker 1: They can include that in context for how we are 209 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 1: thinking about it from a betting point of view. That way, 210 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 1: they don't have to remember all right, let me. I 211 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 1: don't want to make people go back be like all right, 212 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:47,679 Speaker 1: what was the scenario here? We'll give it to them 213 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 1: in context. So Cleveland Baltimore, Baltimore's a seventeen and a 214 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 1: half point favorite. Cleveland right now has the third pick. 215 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:02,439 Speaker 1: They they're basically guaranteed a top five pick. I don't 216 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:06,079 Speaker 1: think that's going to impact the play here. The Ravens 217 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:10,680 Speaker 1: a loss would give Pittsburgh the AFC North. If Pittsburgh 218 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:14,319 Speaker 1: beat Cincinnati, Baltimore would then go to the five seed 219 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 1: and have a road game against the Texans in Round one. 220 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:22,560 Speaker 1: So I say this, they will play their best players 221 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 1: because they need to win this game. They don't want 222 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:26,199 Speaker 1: to go on the road. They want to win the division, 223 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 1: and they want to be the three seed. That's my 224 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:33,840 Speaker 1: take on the game and the scenario. Do you have 225 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:36,240 Speaker 1: strong thoughts on the seventeen and a half right now? 226 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 2: Yeah? 227 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 3: I would love to take Cleveland, but I won't do it. 228 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:42,680 Speaker 3: Won't do it. 229 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:44,199 Speaker 2: Chad ain't gonna do it. 230 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:48,959 Speaker 1: Won't do it because we've been getting burned because historian 231 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 1: Thompson Robinson, who scored nine points and we waiting for 232 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 1: in two weeks are waiting for Jamis now. 233 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 2: We've been burning. 234 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:58,040 Speaker 3: Even if there is two points of value on this, 235 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:02,120 Speaker 3: trust the books right now, the books have just been 236 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 3: laying bad giving out bad numbers. And you know, I 237 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 3: don't know what it is. Look, we just talked about it. 238 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:11,840 Speaker 3: Maybe it is because every team started at the thirty. 239 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 3: If you literally get one first down, all of a sudden, 240 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 3: you're at the forty forty five yard line, and that 241 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:18,680 Speaker 3: that's a big deal, rather than you've been at the 242 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:22,839 Speaker 3: twenty five thirty yard line. So you're right, that's that's 243 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 3: a big deal. It's been huge for the favorites. And 244 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 3: this is pretty simple. The Ravens, they they win this, 245 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 3: they win the division. And on the flip side, if 246 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:33,360 Speaker 3: they win this, like we just talked about Steelers, they 247 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:36,080 Speaker 3: play later that day. They might not even play their 248 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 3: starters because there's nothing to play for it at that 249 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 3: point and they're kind of locked in. So yeah, they 250 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:43,439 Speaker 3: want they need our money, clearly, Chad, there, it's seventeen 251 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 3: and a half. They need our money. This is all 252 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:48,560 Speaker 3: Ravens money. For the minute it opened, it was. 253 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 2: All Ravens money. 254 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 3: So I'm in no rush. It's a great number, obviously, 255 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:54,680 Speaker 3: seventeen and a half. That's a huge key number, but 256 00:13:55,880 --> 00:13:57,520 Speaker 3: I just I won't do it right now. 257 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 1: Teams getting less than thirty percent of the betting tickets, 258 00:14:04,559 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 1: so teams that the public has no interest in cover 259 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:14,079 Speaker 1: the spread about sixty percent of the time if they 260 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:18,080 Speaker 1: if they're off a game in which they scored single digits. Amazingly, 261 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 1: there are several teams that qualify for this system this week. 262 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 1: I think it's a tricky one because I think there's 263 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:31,360 Speaker 1: so many bad teams and so much bad quarterback play. 264 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 1: There's a real disparity in the league right now. The 265 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:38,480 Speaker 1: league has lived on parody for so many years. I 266 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 1: don't think there is parody in this league right now. 267 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 1: I don't know, if you're crazy. 268 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:45,720 Speaker 3: NFC is the most parody it's ever been. 269 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, but the bad are so bad. I don't mean 270 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 1: like individual divisions. We can cherry pick the teams, but 271 00:14:57,200 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 1: some of these bad teams are just so bad. The 272 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:06,920 Speaker 1: quarterback play is so bad you cannot count on them 273 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 1: to do the fluky thing to do the right things 274 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 1: to put themselves in a position to win. You Like, 275 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 1: we've seen it week in and week out. There's some 276 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:17,400 Speaker 1: really bad football teams out there, and the Browns have 277 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 1: zero quarterback plays there is. 278 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:23,080 Speaker 3: But I told you we're in the golden age of quarterbacks. 279 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 3: You're spoiled. Like when Baker Mayfield's thrown for five touchdowns 280 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 3: and Sam Darnold is throwing for three hundred and fifty 281 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 3: yards and three touchdowns and playing for the one seed, 282 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 3: You're spoiled. 283 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 2: You sound spoiled. 284 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 3: It's like, how many good quarterbacks do you want? Chad 285 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 3: On a good I mean, if I go back and 286 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 3: look at the mid two thousands, if we had four 287 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:43,120 Speaker 3: or five good quarterbacks, we. 288 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 2: Were living the dream. 289 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 3: It was like, oh my god, we have Rogers, Peyton Manning, 290 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 3: Brady Phillip Rivers, like these guys are all great quarterbacks. 291 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 3: Now it's there's just so much good QB play that Yes, 292 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:55,800 Speaker 3: when you see bad quarterbacks, it really stands out. 293 00:15:55,800 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 2: And I agree the. 294 00:15:57,240 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 3: Browns they don't have a legit started quarterback on their roster, 295 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 3: and it is interesting to me though they have not 296 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 3: gone back to Winston like in that game against Miami. 297 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 3: Why don't go back to Jamis he must be really 298 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:09,480 Speaker 3: seriously hurt. 299 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:11,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, you know they listed him as having an 300 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 1: injured shoulder, and he was I think even inactive last week. 301 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:19,400 Speaker 1: That's one question I'm sort of looking at this week. 302 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 1: Would they consider going back to him? Is he going 303 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 1: to practice? You know, I want to see how that 304 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 1: goes before we got deep into this game. Yeah, no 305 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 1: for me yet, Yeah, no, bet since he and Pittsburgh, 306 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 1: this one is you know, racked with all sorts of circumstances. Right, 307 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 1: we've leaned Cincy on Tuesday night when it was two 308 00:16:36,680 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 1: and a half. It's moved in the opposite direction. So 309 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 1: people are buying into the idea that what you said 310 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:46,160 Speaker 1: on Sunday night? Could this be a get right game 311 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 1: for Russell Wilson? Do you back Mike Tomlin in the 312 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 1: raw ross spot where he's twenty two and sixteen straight 313 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 1: up as an underdog versus a divisional opponent, twenty six 314 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 1: ten and two against the spread as an underdog against 315 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 1: a divisional opponent. Will know something at this point, you know, 316 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:09,840 Speaker 1: the NFL is like the WWE. Right, they have set 317 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:15,200 Speaker 1: this up so it's all TV drama. The Steelers will 318 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 1: know their circumstances. They'll know if they have got a 319 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:23,720 Speaker 1: shot to win the division or if they're gonna move down. 320 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:26,920 Speaker 1: They do have some motivation. They could still move down 321 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 1: further in the playoff seedings if they lose this game. 322 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 1: So I don't think they're gonna come out and rest starters. 323 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 1: Even if the Ravens win the game. 324 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:41,879 Speaker 3: That's fair to me, that would be a mistake. I 325 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:45,359 Speaker 3: think they should. But obviously I'm a degenerate gambler and 326 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:47,439 Speaker 3: I have money invested already in the Bengals, and I 327 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:52,640 Speaker 3: love the Bengals. Yeah, it's I guess it's a big 328 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:55,119 Speaker 3: deal if they flip seedings. But at the end of 329 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 3: the day, it's like, you know, I get it, Like 330 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:02,960 Speaker 3: they win to get to play Houston, that's a big deal, right, 331 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:05,800 Speaker 3: Like you want to face them rather than having to face. 332 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:09,159 Speaker 1: You want to face like the Bravens. 333 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 2: Right, right, right, So, no, you're right. 334 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 3: I honestly love this one for since because it just 335 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:17,760 Speaker 3: feels like this is the game. Since he wins, and 336 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:19,480 Speaker 3: then you know it doesn't matter. They're not going to 337 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 3: make the playoffs regardless, and just the way Joe Joe 338 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 3: Brows been playing overcoming one of the worst defenses in 339 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:28,080 Speaker 3: all football. It's really impressible, Like you just said it, 340 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 3: Like normally we hammer this and like tomlin spot, but 341 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:34,840 Speaker 3: like so much unknown. I just don't know how motivated 342 00:18:34,840 --> 00:18:37,600 Speaker 3: they're going to be this exact scenario that. Yeah, I'm 343 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:41,280 Speaker 3: still still on Cincy. Most professionals I've talked to at 344 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:43,639 Speaker 3: this point they like, obviously this Pittsburgh team for what 345 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 3: we just talked about. It's it's a nice spot for 346 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:48,960 Speaker 3: Tomlin to bounce back with an offense that you know 347 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 3: they've been struggling. 348 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:52,240 Speaker 2: But you know, we didn't really talk about it. 349 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:54,360 Speaker 3: The Ravens defense has been much better the second half 350 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:56,080 Speaker 3: of the season. Yeah, the Chiefs obviously one of the 351 00:18:56,080 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 3: better defense in all football. You already know the Eagles 352 00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:01,120 Speaker 3: have a top three defense. So going from playing three 353 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:02,720 Speaker 3: of the hardest defense in the football and out of 354 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:05,400 Speaker 3: playing one of the worst defense in football, we expect 355 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:07,199 Speaker 3: Pittsburgh to look good and be able to move the 356 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:10,359 Speaker 3: ball here. But yeah, it's no. 357 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:12,240 Speaker 2: They moved it to one and a half now, I 358 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 2: can't help it. 359 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:15,240 Speaker 1: I got a bet since is this a Simon says, 360 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:17,960 Speaker 1: do you worry that I'll go back to no? 361 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:19,760 Speaker 2: But I would grab her now if you want it. 362 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 3: Like, like we just talked about, like we don't know 363 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:24,439 Speaker 3: the incentive of this Pittsburgh team and what they're going 364 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 3: to do if the brown I mean the Ravens doing 365 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:28,159 Speaker 3: I know, we just said they're going to try to 366 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:30,960 Speaker 3: play it out. But that bye week, at this point 367 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:33,800 Speaker 3: of season, especially you just played three games in eleven days, 368 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:36,440 Speaker 3: that's a huge deal. Like that little bit of MIDI 369 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:38,360 Speaker 3: bye week they can take right here before the playoffs, 370 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:40,960 Speaker 3: that's that's a really big deal. So yeah, it's tough 371 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 3: to get a read on this one. 372 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:46,159 Speaker 1: Buffalo at New England. New England is a three point 373 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:50,359 Speaker 1: underdog at home. It's come way down since it was 374 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:53,359 Speaker 1: posted on Sunday night. It opened at five and a half. 375 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:56,440 Speaker 1: It was within fifteen minutes, it was down to one 376 00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:58,639 Speaker 1: and a half. It moved back up to two and 377 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 1: a half. Now it's at three. The Patriots have the 378 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 1: number one pick in the NFL right now, and they're 379 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:05,760 Speaker 1: in a glorious spot because they don't need to draft 380 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:11,119 Speaker 1: a quarterback. So the optionality with that pick, you gotta 381 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:14,120 Speaker 1: want to keep it. The assumption is that Josh Allen 382 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 1: will at least play a series to keep his starting 383 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:20,760 Speaker 1: streak alive, which apparently Matt Mitchell says is important him 384 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 1: and Matt Mitchell, you know, was our Buffalo correspondent. Do 385 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:29,639 Speaker 1: we think the Pats will play Drake May? Will they 386 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:31,480 Speaker 1: sit him to give them the best chance to win 387 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:35,200 Speaker 1: the number one pick? I don't really have a strong 388 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 1: opinion on this game. 389 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:37,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, pretty interesting. 390 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:40,320 Speaker 3: Bill is automatically locked in the two seeds. So this 391 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:42,360 Speaker 3: is truly a meaningless game for them in. 392 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:43,240 Speaker 2: Every which way. 393 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:47,239 Speaker 3: And yeah, why would they not want to let New 394 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 3: England beat them? 395 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 2: Right? 396 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:50,760 Speaker 3: Not not let them get the top draft pick. But 397 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 3: I do love Patriots fans being like, oh, this is great. 398 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 3: We can use this as leverage a trade down and 399 00:20:56,800 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 3: get more draft capitable as if they can draft good players. 400 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:02,640 Speaker 3: It's like, we have no faith. I have zero faith 401 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:04,479 Speaker 3: in their GM or head coach right now in New England. 402 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 2: And I'm a psychopath too. 403 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:10,199 Speaker 3: Where it's like Drake May, he showed little flashes, but 404 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:14,040 Speaker 3: nothing compared to Jayden Daniels or bow Nicks of like, 405 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:16,880 Speaker 3: even Caleb Williams had moments where I was like, Okay, 406 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:19,480 Speaker 3: this guy's a legit start in this league. Drake May, 407 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:20,960 Speaker 3: to me, there was a lot of fifty to fifty 408 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:23,399 Speaker 3: balls that he's gotten lucky on and he can scramble. 409 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 2: I don't know. 410 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:27,760 Speaker 3: If this was a really good draft for quarterbacks, I 411 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:30,919 Speaker 3: don't think they'd be hesitant to draft a quarterback. I 412 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:33,200 Speaker 3: know that sounds crazy Patriots fans because I love Drake May, 413 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:36,240 Speaker 3: but it's like, dude, they don't work that way in 414 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:36,639 Speaker 3: the NFL. 415 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 2: I mean, Chad just talked about it. 416 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:40,080 Speaker 3: He's sick of the qv play because there's only ten 417 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:42,920 Speaker 3: guys that are like legit. That's how hard it is. 418 00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 3: Like the odds of you drafting a legit guy is 419 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:49,720 Speaker 3: just so rare. I'm just all about the Washington Even 420 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:52,119 Speaker 3: the Eagles did it like we had Carson Wentz. We 421 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:53,800 Speaker 3: took Hurts in the second round. 422 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 2: Like I don't know. 423 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 3: People get to attach to these quarterbacks and their egos, 424 00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:01,360 Speaker 3: and it's I think they're unique opportunity if they if 425 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 3: they break down they love this draft class of quarterback 426 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:06,359 Speaker 3: and they have their one pick, I think they should 427 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:09,520 Speaker 3: look into it. But yeah, Travis Hunter, whoever they want 428 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 3: to go with at that top pick, or if they 429 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:13,240 Speaker 3: do want to trade down to get more draft capital 430 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:16,399 Speaker 3: to draft more players, sure, go for it new them, 431 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:20,320 Speaker 3: but I easily see them could upset he winning this game. Right, 432 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:24,200 Speaker 3: Like Mitch Trubisky, Chad knows we've been through it. He's 433 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:26,119 Speaker 3: he can be good for a quarter, but we know 434 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:29,359 Speaker 3: that eventually he's gonna throw a pick. So if Drake 435 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 3: made is in this game, I think it could be competitive. 436 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:34,480 Speaker 3: I wouldn't hesitate to take the plus three. But yeah, 437 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 3: it's another game where it's a lot of we don't 438 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:38,919 Speaker 3: know who's playing yet this point. I haven't bet it, 439 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 3: waiting to get more info on it. The only reason 440 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:43,199 Speaker 3: I bet the three is just because I'm shocked they 441 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:45,040 Speaker 3: went up to three. I thought this would be a 442 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:48,080 Speaker 3: pick them. So that just shows how bad this this 443 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 3: Patriots team is. There basically a home dog to a 444 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:52,480 Speaker 3: team of backups in Buffalo. 445 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:55,240 Speaker 1: It's very rare that anyone in the NFL is going 446 00:22:55,320 --> 00:23:01,880 Speaker 1: to not suffer from the sunk cost fallacy. Right, you've 447 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 1: got a quarterback, You've drafted a quarterback. You want to 448 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:07,959 Speaker 1: invest in that quarterback. You want to grow that quarterback. 449 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:10,120 Speaker 1: You don't want to feel like the person who wasted 450 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 1: the year to pick the year before. You want to 451 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:17,399 Speaker 1: realize that ROI the very few teams have done it. 452 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:19,479 Speaker 1: The most recent one I can think of is the 453 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:23,200 Speaker 1: Cardinals had drafted Josh Rosen top ten and the next 454 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:26,040 Speaker 1: year drafted Kyler Murray. Right, they immediately were like, this 455 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 1: guy sucks. We can improve our lot, no brainer, don't 456 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:32,640 Speaker 1: worry about what we've done in the past. You don't 457 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:35,720 Speaker 1: get teams drafting quarterbacks unless you're the Bears, and you 458 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:38,399 Speaker 1: draft a quarterback in the top five every three years. 459 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 1: And that's not because they're smart enough to walk away. 460 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:44,119 Speaker 1: They're just bad enough to choose the room. 461 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:45,919 Speaker 3: They are smart enough, though, like you're saying they're not. 462 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:49,120 Speaker 3: That was I mean, think how crazy the fans were. 463 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:51,120 Speaker 3: They're like, no, we like Justin. We want to keep Justin. 464 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:54,399 Speaker 3: It's like, god damn. People just get to attach to 465 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:58,639 Speaker 3: these quarterbacks. They just they love potential. And again, the 466 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 3: Vikings and the reason I was down on them, they 467 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:03,480 Speaker 3: punted on their first round pick. They got Sam Donald. 468 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 3: Then they drafted you know, JJ, like that was a 469 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:10,120 Speaker 3: big deal. And now they're in a weird spot where 470 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:13,160 Speaker 3: it's like, are they the Vikings gonna trade JJ and 471 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:16,880 Speaker 3: just keep Sam Donald? Like their dream for JJ McCarthy 472 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:19,360 Speaker 3: would to be what Sam Donald just did this season, right, 473 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:22,560 Speaker 3: That's it's as good as it's gonna get. So that's 474 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:24,119 Speaker 3: what I mean though, It's just you got to just 475 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:26,359 Speaker 3: keep firing on these quarterbacks and you just have to 476 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:29,960 Speaker 3: hit one unicorn and your franchise is set for fifteen years. 477 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:32,800 Speaker 3: So it's like, I get a Patriots fans, your attached 478 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 3: to Drake May even though he's done nothing. You're the 479 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 3: worst team in football this year. You can blame your coach, 480 00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:40,160 Speaker 3: you can blame your lack of talent. Is that gonna 481 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:42,960 Speaker 3: change next year? I'm already seeing they're rejecting Vrabel to 482 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:45,199 Speaker 3: bring back that coach for one more one more year 483 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:47,960 Speaker 3: in May. Like, they're just a terribly run organization, and 484 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:50,000 Speaker 3: I think we're all starting to figure that out that 485 00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:53,320 Speaker 3: it was just really Belichick and Tom and nothing up top. 486 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:56,439 Speaker 3: It was just blatant luck by Craft that he got 487 00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:59,480 Speaker 3: this incredible quarterback in the seventh, sixth round and he 488 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:02,160 Speaker 3: got check instead of going to the Jets, he came there. 489 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:03,840 Speaker 3: And it just that's how football is, right, you can 490 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:06,520 Speaker 3: walk yourself into dumb luck. And right now it just 491 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:09,720 Speaker 3: feels like this they're the most dysfunctional organization and I 492 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:11,080 Speaker 3: don't know if you love it, but I love it 493 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:14,119 Speaker 3: like I hated that Patriots run and they're cocky, know 494 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:17,320 Speaker 3: what all fans? And now they are just the bottom 495 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:20,800 Speaker 3: of the barrel. And enjoy your number one pick Patriots. 496 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:23,240 Speaker 1: Quick Recap for Week seventeen in the Favorites one hundred 497 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 1: thousand dollars Pro Football to Come contest. Congratulations to Rodney 498 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:29,560 Speaker 1: Valentine are week seventeen first place winner. He went five 499 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:31,159 Speaker 1: and oh got with any yard of the tiebreaker. He 500 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:33,840 Speaker 1: takes home our one thousand dollars a weekly prize. As always, 501 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:36,440 Speaker 1: Matt Mitchell was selected the Producer's Cup award for the 502 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:38,359 Speaker 1: entry that finished dead fucking last. 503 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:45,240 Speaker 3: Have you about the loads loser? He's a Louis about 504 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:46,800 Speaker 3: He still kids dry. 505 00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:52,879 Speaker 1: This week's Producer's Cup goes to m M Haus who 506 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:56,280 Speaker 1: went one five missed the tiebreaker by almost four hundred yrards. 507 00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:59,239 Speaker 1: M M has please email our producer at podcast at 508 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:02,640 Speaker 1: Action Network dot com to claim me prize. Houston at Tennessee. 509 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:07,119 Speaker 1: This one has been on a freaking roller coaster. Yeah, 510 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:09,880 Speaker 1: Texans cannot change their draft. 511 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:11,880 Speaker 2: Locked in at four, Locked. 512 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:14,680 Speaker 1: In at four, They're the worst record of the division winners. 513 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 1: Titans currently own the number two spot in the draft. 514 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:23,280 Speaker 1: They're desperate for a quarterback. This one huge moves up 515 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:28,240 Speaker 1: and down. Opened it seven thirty five PM Sunday night 516 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 1: with Tennessee as a one point underdog. By the time 517 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:34,879 Speaker 1: you and I we do the show seven thirty to 518 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 1: about eight eight fifteen. By the time we were on 519 00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:41,520 Speaker 1: the air midway through the show, Tennessee was a four 520 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:44,399 Speaker 1: and a half point favorite. Now it's back down to 521 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:48,800 Speaker 1: Tennessee minus one. No upside for the Texans, locked in 522 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:51,920 Speaker 1: at the four. Like I said, why is this line 523 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:53,359 Speaker 1: Simon moving so much? 524 00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:56,400 Speaker 2: Simon says, give me Tennessee plus one. 525 00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:59,679 Speaker 3: When Simon says do it, we do it. 526 00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:01,880 Speaker 1: Minus one. 527 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:05,920 Speaker 3: Beth Svive it is yeah, okay, yeah, I don't get it. 528 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:07,200 Speaker 2: I do not get it at all. 529 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:09,920 Speaker 3: It's all public money too, Like I'm looking the Action 530 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:13,919 Speaker 3: app and it's all public just hammering this Texan side 531 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:18,000 Speaker 3: and we kind of talk about it. Like these NFL teams, 532 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 3: you saw it a lot, especially in that Giants locker 533 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:23,520 Speaker 3: room after that game. They do not care about draft position. 534 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:26,520 Speaker 3: Like these guys just want to win, and a lot 535 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:28,000 Speaker 3: of them are playing for their jobs and playing for 536 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:31,880 Speaker 3: their futures and say what you about the Tennessee being 537 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:34,120 Speaker 3: terrible and them losing and not covering all these games 538 00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:36,760 Speaker 3: in a row, they at least been trying and being 539 00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:38,520 Speaker 3: competitive in these games. Like a lot of these games 540 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:41,120 Speaker 3: are close games, Like, it's not them just getting rolled 541 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:44,080 Speaker 3: by thirty forty points, right, it's a lot of times 542 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:46,359 Speaker 3: I'm coming back losing by a touchdown or just failing 543 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:50,159 Speaker 3: that last drive. And me and you have talked a 544 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:52,560 Speaker 3: ton about this Texans team, about how bad they are 545 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:55,760 Speaker 3: mainly because of injuries, right, And they were a top 546 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:57,520 Speaker 3: heavy team coming of the year. They were stars of 547 00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:00,919 Speaker 3: the scrub type of team, right. And now in this game, 548 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:03,280 Speaker 3: all the stars will be out. All the reasons they've 549 00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:06,159 Speaker 3: been even be able to keep this thing together is 550 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:08,480 Speaker 3: going to be out for this Houston team. On the 551 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:12,000 Speaker 3: flip side, I just could see Tennessee messing up their 552 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:15,040 Speaker 3: draft position and wanting to win this game. And they're 553 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 3: desperate for a win. I mean they've gone months without 554 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:18,800 Speaker 3: a win like that. 555 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:19,880 Speaker 2: That just wears on you. 556 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:23,200 Speaker 3: And we've already talked about how it's an anomaly them 557 00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:25,880 Speaker 3: against the spread, right, two and fourteen against the spread this. 558 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:29,600 Speaker 1: Season against the spread ever. 559 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:33,439 Speaker 3: Ever, and again, I know people don't give us crudest, 560 00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:36,480 Speaker 3: but like we've avoided them this whole time. We literally 561 00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:38,440 Speaker 3: have avoided them this whole time. 562 00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:42,200 Speaker 1: But we deserve credit for our It's. 563 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,480 Speaker 3: Been hard, honestly though, it's been hard because every week 564 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:46,640 Speaker 3: the books are giving us a free two to three points, 565 00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:50,240 Speaker 3: no joke, like they're just begging for Tennessee money. And 566 00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:52,560 Speaker 3: every week it just was not coming through. And I 567 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:54,960 Speaker 3: know some pros have just been chasing this for well 568 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:56,720 Speaker 3: over a month on this Tennessee team. 569 00:28:56,760 --> 00:29:00,240 Speaker 2: So yeah, I I I just. 570 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:02,880 Speaker 3: Think Tennessee is in a good spot here playing against 571 00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 3: a bunch of backups that you know, I don't think 572 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:08,400 Speaker 3: he still is going to care at all about this game. 573 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:10,040 Speaker 3: On the flip side, I think Tennessee is going to 574 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:13,320 Speaker 3: care about getting this last win. Callahan just before the 575 00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:15,200 Speaker 3: end of the season, try to feel good about themselves. 576 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 3: And we've see it all the time teams like this 577 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:20,520 Speaker 3: that I've a horrible year, nothing to play for. 578 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:21,920 Speaker 2: They kind of steal one of these games the end 579 00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:22,320 Speaker 2: of the year. 580 00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:25,520 Speaker 3: So yeah, it makes me I've seen a normal year. 581 00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:27,760 Speaker 3: It feel good knowing the public's heavy on our road 582 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:30,360 Speaker 3: favorite in Houston, but it has not been the case 583 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:32,440 Speaker 3: this season. But I still I still like Tennessee at 584 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:34,840 Speaker 3: this number. I do think it goes up by kickoff. 585 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:38,640 Speaker 1: Very interesting. Finally pulling the trigger on the Tennessee Titans. 586 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:40,360 Speaker 1: I got to tell you, I didn't see that one coming. 587 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:43,280 Speaker 1: I wanted to go in. I've hated them, Yeah, I 588 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:45,800 Speaker 1: want Look, you walk me back from the last week, 589 00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:50,880 Speaker 1: like I was itching to bet the Titans, and you're like, no, no, no, no. 590 00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:51,560 Speaker 3: You're right. 591 00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:55,680 Speaker 1: We do deserve credit for not falling prey and betting 592 00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:59,160 Speaker 1: the Titans all season long. Maybe no credit for betting 593 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:02,320 Speaker 1: the Panthers sas long, but we totally deserve credit for 594 00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:05,600 Speaker 1: not betting the Titans when we absolutely when that number 595 00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:11,280 Speaker 1: was bloated every single week. 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There's no reason to 616 00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:23,960 Speaker 1: be mean. And when we hugged, he uh said, wow, 617 00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:29,920 Speaker 1: this shirt is so soft? Is this Tommy John? And 618 00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:35,160 Speaker 1: I was wearing a quilted Tommy John pullover. We buy it, 619 00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:41,800 Speaker 1: we like it. Jacksonville at Indy, Anthony Richardson missed last 620 00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:44,240 Speaker 1: week and he's a five point favorite here with backspasms. 621 00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:47,240 Speaker 1: If he is healthy, the cults say he will play. 622 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:51,520 Speaker 1: There's no word yet on if he is healthy. Obviously, like, 623 00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:54,640 Speaker 1: there's not a ton on the line here. The Jags 624 00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:58,440 Speaker 1: have the fifth pick overall draft position, not likely to 625 00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:00,520 Speaker 1: impact any decisions about who will play. They've got the 626 00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:03,480 Speaker 1: quarterback they say they want, They've got some costs, They're 627 00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:07,320 Speaker 1: not walking away from Trevor Lawrence. Kind of a normal 628 00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:10,240 Speaker 1: handicap to me. A team that won't stop trying in 629 00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:16,640 Speaker 1: the Jags versus a team that feels like culturally in house, 630 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:19,880 Speaker 1: it is in big trouble. I don't know if you've 631 00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:25,720 Speaker 1: been keeping up with Pat McAfee versus the Indianapolis Colts franchise, 632 00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:29,800 Speaker 1: but he's been railing on this team and now they 633 00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:33,120 Speaker 1: are fighting back. And they were just so bad. They 634 00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:35,520 Speaker 1: had so many chances to win that game, staying contention 635 00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:39,440 Speaker 1: against the Giants defense could not stop Drew Locke. So 636 00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:44,200 Speaker 1: are the Jags way overvalued because they've been competitive? Are 637 00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:48,400 Speaker 1: the Colts undervalued? After last week's games? The numbers moved 638 00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:53,880 Speaker 1: down a little bit. It's pro Jo's game for what 639 00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:57,240 Speaker 1: it's worth. Tickets on the Jags, money on the Colts. 640 00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:00,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, brutal, brutal a year for the Colts. 641 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:01,480 Speaker 2: I saw the part of my take. 642 00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:05,440 Speaker 3: Boys had a crazy statu about Ballard and basically since 643 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:08,520 Speaker 3: he's taken over, every team has won this division twice. 644 00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:11,640 Speaker 3: So the Texas have won it twice, Jacksonville's won it twice, 645 00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:15,360 Speaker 3: Tennessee's won it twice. They've won a zero times since 646 00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:18,840 Speaker 3: he's taken over. Come on, Yeah, it's pretty insane that 647 00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:20,800 Speaker 3: Ers has let this man hang around. 648 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:23,240 Speaker 1: At this and everyone always talks about what a brilliant 649 00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:25,120 Speaker 1: GM he is. 650 00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:28,720 Speaker 3: He honestly isn't some aspect where, like, you know, the 651 00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:30,800 Speaker 3: offensive line and some of the trafficks he hit on 652 00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:33,960 Speaker 3: were great, but he just obviously clearly never figured out 653 00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:36,920 Speaker 3: the quarterback situation. And every year he's just been throwing 654 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:39,520 Speaker 3: darts and it's the wrong dart he just throws to 655 00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:43,880 Speaker 3: the So, yeah, another game of I want to take 656 00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:49,440 Speaker 3: Jacksonville this They've they've been playing, you know, with their 657 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:51,680 Speaker 3: backups where you want to call it, for months. 658 00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:53,080 Speaker 2: They're used to it. 659 00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:56,160 Speaker 3: The Colts any guy with the even semi injured coming 660 00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:58,160 Speaker 3: out of last week, why would they play in this 661 00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:02,160 Speaker 3: game like they're that? How does that not just suck 662 00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:04,000 Speaker 3: your soul out? You put in so much work. I mean, 663 00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:05,800 Speaker 3: they're interviewing guys who've been there a long time in 664 00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:08,360 Speaker 3: the locker room and they're just like, it's the same 665 00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:09,240 Speaker 3: old every season. 666 00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:12,799 Speaker 2: This is how it goes, and like that that. 667 00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:14,640 Speaker 3: To me, like we just talked about that's the worst 668 00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:16,880 Speaker 3: loss of the season, right, You're playing for your, yeah, 669 00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:19,680 Speaker 3: your lives to make the playoffs and you lose to 670 00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:21,560 Speaker 3: a team that literally hadn't won a home game all 671 00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:23,640 Speaker 3: season and you lose to a quarterback and Drew Lock. 672 00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:26,320 Speaker 3: That just looked like an all pro against your secondary, 673 00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:27,920 Speaker 3: like tour you guys up. 674 00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:30,600 Speaker 1: Every single time they got close and had a chance. 675 00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:37,160 Speaker 1: They needed one stop, one stop multiple times to get 676 00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:39,759 Speaker 1: back in that game. If they do well, they drive 677 00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:42,839 Speaker 1: down the field, they score, they're taking the lead. They 678 00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:44,600 Speaker 1: could not freaking do it. 679 00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:47,440 Speaker 3: No, And like again, the game was summed up perfectly. 680 00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:50,359 Speaker 3: The announcer said the Colts had four drives and they 681 00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:53,480 Speaker 3: had six points. Drew Lock had three drives, he had 682 00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:57,319 Speaker 3: three touchdowns. Just insane to think about that, that type 683 00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:00,160 Speaker 3: of thing. That's why we love betting though. That's you know, 684 00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:01,879 Speaker 3: that was the one big dog that we just talked 685 00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:05,680 Speaker 3: about one outright, So, yeah, the Colts are just so bad. 686 00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:07,919 Speaker 3: This feels like way too much respect to this team, 687 00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,680 Speaker 3: especially at four and a half. Call me a sucker 688 00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:12,239 Speaker 3: for this Jackson. I just love the way they've been 689 00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:15,360 Speaker 3: playing down the stretcher. I'll take mac Jones Brian Thompson 690 00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:17,080 Speaker 3: Junior at plus four and a half. 691 00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:22,520 Speaker 1: I agree with you, Like I kept thinking, like we're 692 00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:25,880 Speaker 1: seeing the Jacks compete every single week. This was a 693 00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:29,879 Speaker 1: great stat from Evan mac Jones. With Doug Peterson three 694 00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:33,600 Speaker 1: and three against the spread. He was something like, you know, 695 00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:40,200 Speaker 1: fifteen and thirty against the spread with the Patriots. So 696 00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:43,200 Speaker 1: clearly Doug Peterson is getting something out of mac Jones 697 00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:46,840 Speaker 1: that Bill Belichick wasn't getting. But he's got swagger and 698 00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:50,160 Speaker 1: he doesn't deserve it. But he's making bad throws that 699 00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:53,200 Speaker 1: Brian Thomas Junior continues to make him look good on him, like, 700 00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:55,399 Speaker 1: I don't know, I. 701 00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:57,080 Speaker 3: Got a better one for you. He's got the same 702 00:35:57,120 --> 00:36:00,239 Speaker 3: amount of wins this year and whatever it is six 703 00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:03,920 Speaker 3: starts as Drake May has for the whole season. 704 00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:06,160 Speaker 2: Suck on that. In New England. 705 00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:14,759 Speaker 1: Washington at Dallas. This one opened Dallas plus five and 706 00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:18,399 Speaker 1: shortly after the Commanders won on Sunday night, moved down 707 00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:22,120 Speaker 1: to three. Now it's back up to four. Look there's 708 00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:26,319 Speaker 1: still playoff seating incentive for the Commanders, right, If they 709 00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:32,640 Speaker 1: do win, they're locked in at the sixth seed, they 710 00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:34,920 Speaker 1: get the Bucks or the Rams. They gotta travel, but 711 00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:36,920 Speaker 1: they get the Bucks of the Rams. If they lose, 712 00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:42,440 Speaker 1: they're the seventh seed. They're playing the Eagles. I mean 713 00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:45,120 Speaker 1: that's incentive to me, do you want to play the 714 00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:47,560 Speaker 1: Eagles or do you want to play the Bucks or 715 00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:50,640 Speaker 1: the Rams? So to me, this should be a totally 716 00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:51,680 Speaker 1: normal handicap. 717 00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:55,359 Speaker 3: Even more so, doesn't feel like this is the type 718 00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:58,680 Speaker 3: of game that Washington just absolutely rolls the Cowboys. Like 719 00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:01,879 Speaker 3: the Cowboys that think we realized they've had their Super 720 00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:04,320 Speaker 3: Bowl against that Tampa team in that primetime game. 721 00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:06,640 Speaker 2: And you know, as. 722 00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:09,080 Speaker 3: Bad as I looked against the Eagles, I don't know 723 00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:11,359 Speaker 3: how much better they're going to play against Washington. Right. 724 00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:14,200 Speaker 2: These guys all have their trips booked, they're ready to go. 725 00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:15,600 Speaker 2: You know. 726 00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:18,400 Speaker 3: Michael Parsons comments after the game were just madly insane, 727 00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:19,640 Speaker 3: Like it just seems to go a team that's kind 728 00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:22,640 Speaker 3: of lost their mind at this point. The Cowboys, Washington, 729 00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:25,440 Speaker 3: I feel like you just nailed it, right. This is 730 00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:27,480 Speaker 3: a game they really want to win because it really 731 00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:29,759 Speaker 3: defines who they're going to be playing in this playoffs, 732 00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:31,960 Speaker 3: and of course they want to come to Philly. Like 733 00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:33,160 Speaker 3: you don't want to say you don't want to face 734 00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:35,799 Speaker 3: the same same team three times? Right we all know that. 735 00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:39,960 Speaker 3: So yeah, the fact that this has moved the way 736 00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:41,719 Speaker 3: it's moved just makes total sense to me, Like the 737 00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:44,000 Speaker 3: pros and the public to me, will be on Washington. 738 00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:46,080 Speaker 3: I could see this keep going up, Like, to me, 739 00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:48,920 Speaker 3: this should be six by kickoff. So the fact you 740 00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:50,640 Speaker 3: can still get four and a half on Washington, I 741 00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:51,439 Speaker 3: don't hate that number. 742 00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:52,480 Speaker 2: I don't hate that value. 743 00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:57,359 Speaker 1: Get four at bat three sixty five. This is one 744 00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:02,680 Speaker 1: of those stats and system that we mentioned, Oh, play Cowboys, 745 00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:06,640 Speaker 1: Play the Cowboys, right, Teams getting less than thirty percent 746 00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:11,560 Speaker 1: of the tickets cover the spread sixty percent of the 747 00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:14,480 Speaker 1: time if they're off a game in which they scored 748 00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:20,640 Speaker 1: single digits. Again, it's a it's a weird stat because 749 00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:25,800 Speaker 1: it basically tells you to favor the worst teams. Right, yeah, 750 00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:29,640 Speaker 1: we're talking. We're talking about the Cowboys. This week we saw. 751 00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:32,439 Speaker 2: The hot big of a deal was the lu CD though, right, Yeah, 752 00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:34,680 Speaker 2: like not how was a big deal? 753 00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:39,759 Speaker 1: I will say this, Cooper Rush, he chucks it man, 754 00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:42,399 Speaker 1: he's willing to play, He'll throw it into the fire. 755 00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:46,120 Speaker 1: He still makes some good throws. Brandon Cooks stepped in nicely, 756 00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:50,840 Speaker 1: and we knew the Eagles are kryptonite for Cooper Rush. 757 00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:54,560 Speaker 1: His worst games as a backup have come against the Eagles. 758 00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:58,040 Speaker 1: And I don't necessarily think he's going to mail it in. 759 00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:00,879 Speaker 1: He's a backup quarterback who wants to do as well 760 00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:03,799 Speaker 1: as he can. And I don't think Mike McCarthy's going 761 00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:05,640 Speaker 1: to nail it in. Nail it in because I think 762 00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:08,920 Speaker 1: he is still trying to win the games for next year. 763 00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:11,120 Speaker 1: If you if I had to bet on if he 764 00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:12,880 Speaker 1: will be the coach, I would say he will be 765 00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:17,240 Speaker 1: next year. Seems like the sentiment is that the tide 766 00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:19,719 Speaker 1: is turning on that so I don't it's to me, 767 00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:22,799 Speaker 1: it's not an automatic with Washington. If it gets higher, 768 00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:24,160 Speaker 1: I might just want to play the Cowboys. 769 00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:24,880 Speaker 2: That's fair. 770 00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:27,440 Speaker 1: So we'll put him on the list because why not. 771 00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:30,520 Speaker 1: How much worse can it get for us New Orleans 772 00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:34,800 Speaker 1: of Tampa Bay. You teased wanting to take the Saints 773 00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:38,680 Speaker 1: on Sunday Night. It's moved down half a point. This 774 00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:40,440 Speaker 1: is a normal handicapp to me. The Bucks need to 775 00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:43,520 Speaker 1: win to get in. Any year we are taking the Saints, 776 00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:47,640 Speaker 1: but this is not any year. My biggest worry is 777 00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:51,560 Speaker 1: that the Saints don't have any playmakers. I mean, they 778 00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:52,680 Speaker 1: truly are a JV team. 779 00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:53,480 Speaker 3: Cam Jordan. 780 00:39:55,760 --> 00:40:00,759 Speaker 1: Five year old kna You know, I like to play 781 00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:07,399 Speaker 1: this game with my kid. You know, jersey retirement, Hall 782 00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:11,520 Speaker 1: of Fame team Hall of Fame statue, Cam Jordan, Where 783 00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:12,560 Speaker 1: do you think he qualifies? 784 00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:12,640 Speaker 3: Like? 785 00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:14,640 Speaker 1: He's one of the best players defensively the Saints I have 786 00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:15,160 Speaker 1: ever had. 787 00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:17,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, he leads them in sacks, right. 788 00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:20,239 Speaker 1: Pillar in the community, always a Walter Payton Man of 789 00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:25,440 Speaker 1: the Year Award nominee. Does he get a statue? Does 790 00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:29,320 Speaker 1: he get his jersey retired? Or is he in the Saints' 791 00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:30,400 Speaker 1: Ring of honor? 792 00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:33,879 Speaker 3: Gotta retire jersey if you're the Saints. He's the all 793 00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:38,120 Speaker 3: time leader in sacks. That's it's just insane to think 794 00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:42,200 Speaker 3: with that organization. This guy is basically a de tackle 795 00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:46,960 Speaker 3: that is just dominated across what ten fifteen years, I 796 00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:48,520 Speaker 3: mean not long he's been in the league now. 797 00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:51,719 Speaker 1: But I think seventy five years. I think he was 798 00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:55,840 Speaker 1: an original member of the of the NFL. 799 00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:57,839 Speaker 3: Even that game last week, like they needed a couple 800 00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:00,480 Speaker 3: of big plays on a couple of Creek third and 801 00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:02,319 Speaker 3: he felt like he was always the one that made 802 00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:04,120 Speaker 3: the big play for them. Yeah, obviously it didn't matter 803 00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:06,640 Speaker 3: because they're just a terrible team. But yeah, this number 804 00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:08,040 Speaker 3: is crazy. Ch had at one point it was up 805 00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:12,640 Speaker 3: to fourteen and a half, the Saints number, so obviously 806 00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:15,200 Speaker 3: professional when has come in at this point bought it back. 807 00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:18,520 Speaker 3: It's at thirteen and a half. Now, I won't do it. 808 00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:20,600 Speaker 3: I won't take it at a bad number. It if 809 00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:22,120 Speaker 3: it gets back up to fourteen fourteen and a half, 810 00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:23,640 Speaker 3: I'm happy to give it out and take it again. 811 00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:27,160 Speaker 3: But I'm not chasing this number after it already moved, 812 00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:29,320 Speaker 3: and no one would be safe, no one would be 813 00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:32,800 Speaker 3: shocked if Tampa just absolutely rolls on Tampa. That Bucky 814 00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:39,720 Speaker 3: Irving Baker Mike Evans combo is just one right now, terrifying. Yeah, 815 00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:42,520 Speaker 3: so you just nailed it. Like the Saints have nothing 816 00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:44,640 Speaker 3: offensively that can keep up with this Bucks team. We'd 817 00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:49,560 Speaker 3: basically need a really really bad Baker game, which, honestly, 818 00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:51,640 Speaker 3: at fourteen and a half, I feel way comfortable betting 819 00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:53,480 Speaker 3: on that because it can happen, like we've seen the 820 00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:55,040 Speaker 3: time and time again, he can't turn the ball over, 821 00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:58,680 Speaker 3: give short field to this Saints team. But at thirteen 822 00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:00,279 Speaker 3: and a half, it's like, I'm not chasing in that 823 00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:04,000 Speaker 3: bad number. Give me a better number here, sportsbooks. 824 00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:07,480 Speaker 1: Baker has fifteen picks. That's one behind Kirk Cousins. But 825 00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:13,040 Speaker 1: he's also on pace to earn two point five million 826 00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:18,799 Speaker 1: dollars in incentives for individual stats. Evan has a great 827 00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:21,360 Speaker 1: story up in Action network dot com. There's five different 828 00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:25,720 Speaker 1: stats that if he finishes top five in the NFC 829 00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:30,480 Speaker 1: or top ten in the league across completion, percentage, yards, touchdowns, 830 00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:34,240 Speaker 1: et cetera, he gets five hundred grand for each one, 831 00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:37,920 Speaker 1: and he's well within the range for all of them 832 00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:41,040 Speaker 1: right now. So I got a feeling Baker's going to 833 00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:44,279 Speaker 1: go out there and he's going to sling it, which 834 00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:48,200 Speaker 1: could spell doom right for the Saints. 835 00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:52,120 Speaker 3: I saw a crazy article though, just about how Tom 836 00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:54,759 Speaker 3: Brady left New England. Look what happened to them. He 837 00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:56,880 Speaker 3: left Tampa and they've still been able to win the 838 00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:58,879 Speaker 3: division now and they could win it again this year, 839 00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:01,960 Speaker 3: two times, which is just insane to think about, Like 840 00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:05,239 Speaker 3: you lose arguably the best player in football history. One 841 00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:07,400 Speaker 3: team went the way they should have right, the completely 842 00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:10,000 Speaker 3: fell apart. I've just been in despair for the last 843 00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:14,080 Speaker 3: five six years. Baker the ultimate shavior of Tampa. Like 844 00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:16,840 Speaker 3: truly incredible. This man went from being scout team D 845 00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:20,960 Speaker 3: line with Carolina to now potentially back to back divisional 846 00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:24,160 Speaker 3: winner of the South. It's really remarkable what Baker's done. 847 00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:27,799 Speaker 1: Someone needs to do this story. I mean to call 848 00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:30,040 Speaker 1: some my NFL writer buddies and get them on this, 849 00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:33,480 Speaker 1: just to go back to my old days with signing stories. 850 00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:39,160 Speaker 1: But what exactly happened with Baker and Sean McVay in 851 00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:42,320 Speaker 1: Los Angeles in that last month of the season a 852 00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:44,839 Speaker 1: couple of years ago, right, because he points that as 853 00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:47,799 Speaker 1: being like a pivotal moment in his career where he 854 00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:51,240 Speaker 1: learned so much about playing quarterback and he's been brilliant 855 00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:53,839 Speaker 1: since then, and like that was at the end of 856 00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:58,319 Speaker 1: a long road of journeyman type stuff. I think that 857 00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:00,840 Speaker 1: was the last stop before Tampa if I'm not mistaken, 858 00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:03,280 Speaker 1: But he says that's where you learn to play quarterback. 859 00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:05,200 Speaker 1: I'd love to be in the room there. That's a 860 00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:09,839 Speaker 1: great story. I gotta get Wickersham on that call. Wicker Sham, 861 00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:15,719 Speaker 1: have him do that, Carolina at Atlanta. Atlanta's ain't a 862 00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:18,000 Speaker 1: half point favorite, Simon, It's gone up from seven and 863 00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:22,080 Speaker 1: a half. I mean, we're gonna do it, you know. 864 00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:25,920 Speaker 1: The the Falcons have to win and the Bucks need 865 00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:29,960 Speaker 1: to lose for them to get into the playoffs. Nobody's 866 00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:33,359 Speaker 1: gonna know what's happening in this game because they're both 867 00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:36,840 Speaker 1: playing at the same time. Here's the scenario. The Bucks 868 00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:40,160 Speaker 1: are crushing the Saints at halftime, the Falcons are demoralized, 869 00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:43,160 Speaker 1: the Panthers find a way to cover. I don't hate it. 870 00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:45,240 Speaker 1: Get to bet the Panthers one last time. 871 00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:49,000 Speaker 3: So I was so distraught I couldn't sleep after that 872 00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:51,759 Speaker 3: Atlanta loss. On Sunday night against watchingon, I end upuying 873 00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:54,640 Speaker 3: a flame thrower, no joke, no way. Yeah, that's how 874 00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:56,040 Speaker 3: much his teams affect in my life. 875 00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:56,919 Speaker 2: This Atlanta team. 876 00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:59,200 Speaker 1: What are you going to do with the flame thrower? Uh? 877 00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:02,160 Speaker 2: Give rid of black I don't want to. I don't 878 00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:03,319 Speaker 2: want to slip on any black ice. 879 00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:05,480 Speaker 3: So I'm just gonna whip out the flame thrower through 880 00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:07,640 Speaker 3: the driveway off so I can walk out to my car. 881 00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:10,720 Speaker 1: But isn't that terrible for the concrete? Doesn't it create 882 00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:12,080 Speaker 1: cracks and stuff? 883 00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:14,319 Speaker 2: I don't think so. But it's legal as well. 884 00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:17,240 Speaker 3: It's considered a farm tool in America, so God bless America. 885 00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:19,640 Speaker 3: You can buy a flamethrower people online if you want 886 00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:21,040 Speaker 3: America made. 887 00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:23,719 Speaker 1: What were you just on Amazon? You're like, find me 888 00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:24,680 Speaker 1: a flame thrower? 889 00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:26,320 Speaker 3: No, I was just going through all the motions. I 890 00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:27,759 Speaker 3: think I was playing some World War two game. I 891 00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:29,400 Speaker 3: was like, why do I not own a flamethrower? I 892 00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:32,040 Speaker 3: own everything else? And it was pretty simple to get 893 00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:36,680 Speaker 3: get a flamethrow here in America. I can't help myself. 894 00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:39,080 Speaker 3: I'm betting Panthers at plus eight and a half. I've 895 00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:42,080 Speaker 3: already bet their money line. I love this as an 896 00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:44,400 Speaker 3: upset for this this Carolina team. This is going to 897 00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:47,960 Speaker 3: feel like an actual playoff game for Panix in this 898 00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:50,160 Speaker 3: Atlanta team. And I can just see them getting tight 899 00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:53,040 Speaker 3: and no one's be back on this Carolina team after 900 00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:54,399 Speaker 3: them just getting rolled and blown out. 901 00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:57,560 Speaker 2: But we've seen that the Panthers. They bounced back from 902 00:45:57,600 --> 00:45:58,720 Speaker 2: those embarrassing losses. 903 00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:02,640 Speaker 3: And you know, Bryce Young obviously didn't play well last week. 904 00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:03,640 Speaker 2: I like him to bounce back. 905 00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:06,440 Speaker 3: So yeah, I, as people can tell, I just love 906 00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:08,920 Speaker 3: this Panthers team, especially now that's plus eight and a half. 907 00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:11,160 Speaker 3: Can't quit them one last time. Chad, give me the 908 00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:12,719 Speaker 3: Panthers in twenty twenty four. 909 00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:16,279 Speaker 1: I feel like we have to, just because you got 910 00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:20,480 Speaker 1: to complete the circle. And you knows as smart as 911 00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:27,759 Speaker 1: we've been about Tennessee, we've we've been right about Carolina 912 00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:30,680 Speaker 1: the second half of the year. Obviously, not last week. 913 00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:33,160 Speaker 3: That was the first loss though we were five and 914 00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:35,040 Speaker 3: zero betting them. Yea, we were in a nice streak 915 00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:36,440 Speaker 3: with them. That was our first loss. 916 00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:39,480 Speaker 1: I got. I got no issues going back to Carolina, Obviously, 917 00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:41,600 Speaker 1: I said, I feel like we're going to have to 918 00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:43,680 Speaker 1: do it. I'm glad we're doing it. 919 00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:46,600 Speaker 3: Plus three forty on the money line shocked the world. 920 00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:49,000 Speaker 1: All right, Well, we know they'll be in the money 921 00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:51,640 Speaker 1: line underdog round robin and probably in the bed. Three 922 00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:57,160 Speaker 1: sixty five boosted parlay Chicago at Green Bay. So the 923 00:46:57,200 --> 00:47:00,879 Speaker 1: Packers can only move up from the seventh seed and 924 00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:03,719 Speaker 1: facing the Eagles if the Commanders lose to Dallas. So 925 00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:06,000 Speaker 1: they're both playing at one at one pm, so we 926 00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:09,120 Speaker 1: could have another scoreboard watching situation like we have with Atlanta. 927 00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:13,440 Speaker 1: A couple stats because I can't decide if we assume 928 00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:15,680 Speaker 1: this is a normal handicap or not. I haven't seen 929 00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:19,600 Speaker 1: anything from Laflor to indicate which way they're going to go. 930 00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:22,600 Speaker 1: My sense is they're at least going to start their starters, 931 00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:25,399 Speaker 1: see how the game is going, and if there's no chance, 932 00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:29,520 Speaker 1: maybe they pull them. So there's a couple systems that 933 00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:34,120 Speaker 1: the Bears fit. The Bears have a winning percentage of 934 00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:38,080 Speaker 1: less than twenty five percent. They are a bad team 935 00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:41,359 Speaker 1: in this scenario going against a good team that since 936 00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:44,400 Speaker 1: Week five has been covering by more than five points 937 00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:47,400 Speaker 1: per game, So that is the Packers. The team in 938 00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:49,919 Speaker 1: the bad team in the scenario covers fifty nine percent 939 00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:53,080 Speaker 1: of the time. Plus the Bears getting less than thirty 940 00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:56,239 Speaker 1: percent of the tickets. I mean they're getting faded by 941 00:47:56,280 --> 00:47:59,640 Speaker 1: the public. They just scored single digits three points against 942 00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:04,319 Speaker 1: the Sea how at home, you know, so they cover 943 00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:08,000 Speaker 1: sixty percent of the time in this scenario. Two systems 944 00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:10,359 Speaker 1: both north of you know, one hundred and fifty close 945 00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:15,360 Speaker 1: to two hundred you know games as a sample set. 946 00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:18,600 Speaker 1: But I'm not backing the Bears here. 947 00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:21,560 Speaker 2: No all right, I'm I'm all in on them. I 948 00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:23,600 Speaker 2: love them. I bet their money line as well for 949 00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:24,000 Speaker 2: this one. 950 00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:26,560 Speaker 3: I'm just Jesus Christ, I'm a sucker for these Week 951 00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:29,439 Speaker 3: eighteen games in the sense that I just love these 952 00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:32,560 Speaker 3: dogs in these exact spots of what you just talked about. 953 00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:35,319 Speaker 3: Everyone is totally out on this Bears team. The only 954 00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:37,839 Speaker 3: unfortunate part was this was ten and this numbers now 955 00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:39,920 Speaker 3: moved down to nine, nine and a half of most books. 956 00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:41,200 Speaker 2: I was really hoping we'd get the ten. 957 00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:44,319 Speaker 1: It'll go back up. I guarantee it'll go back up 958 00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:46,919 Speaker 1: before this game is kicking off. 959 00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:48,560 Speaker 3: I think you just touched on the key though, is 960 00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:50,440 Speaker 3: what Laflour's gonna say during the week. I think that 961 00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:53,680 Speaker 3: as is gonna dictate this line. Like if Laflooryd's basically 962 00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:57,319 Speaker 3: tell us people like, Okay, we'll pull starters in the 963 00:48:57,360 --> 00:49:01,320 Speaker 3: second half or whatever. If you know Commanders are winning 964 00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:04,279 Speaker 3: big against Dallas, whatever it may be, I think there 965 00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:06,600 Speaker 3: is value here to take advantage of. Then. I mean, 966 00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:08,080 Speaker 3: I remember when these teams played last time. I know 967 00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:10,360 Speaker 3: that feels like a lifetime ago. Because of the coaching 968 00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:12,000 Speaker 3: change and how bad the Bears have been down the 969 00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:14,920 Speaker 3: stretch here. But you know, the Bears, they should have 970 00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:16,640 Speaker 3: beat them, they should have upset them. And it seems 971 00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:20,040 Speaker 3: like this Bears team actually matches up pretty well against 972 00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:20,919 Speaker 3: this Green Bay team. 973 00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:24,640 Speaker 1: So they don't, No, they don't. The Bears do not 974 00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:25,800 Speaker 1: know how to play defense. 975 00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:29,920 Speaker 3: They held Seattle to sixth coven on in. 976 00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:32,680 Speaker 1: The rain and a shitty night in Chicago on Thursday. 977 00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:36,680 Speaker 1: Those Thursday night games. You can't take anything defensively on 978 00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:39,799 Speaker 1: those games. And by the way, the Bears still don't 979 00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:41,880 Speaker 1: know how to score in the first half. They're going 980 00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:44,600 Speaker 1: to need to score thirty points in the second half 981 00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:47,839 Speaker 1: to cover this spread. I swear to God because because 982 00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:50,959 Speaker 1: what's gonna happen is lafleur. If anything, I would say, 983 00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:55,000 Speaker 1: let's take the Packers first half and then and let's 984 00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:56,320 Speaker 1: take the Bears second half. 985 00:49:56,880 --> 00:49:59,160 Speaker 3: We can do that. But yeah, for our pick contest 986 00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:04,160 Speaker 3: obviously doesn't work, now, you know, I just these are 987 00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:06,279 Speaker 3: the type of games that just the Bears win. This 988 00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:09,360 Speaker 3: a meaningless game that affects their draft position. That's another reason. 989 00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:11,839 Speaker 3: It's just like you just said, they're just everything they 990 00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:13,560 Speaker 3: do they do to torture their fan base. And this 991 00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:16,120 Speaker 3: feels like another game. But you wouldn't be happy if 992 00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:17,920 Speaker 3: they beat Green Bay. I mean when the last time 993 00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:18,919 Speaker 3: you guys beat Green Bay? 994 00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:22,759 Speaker 1: I don't care. It's not even a rivalry shit, So. 995 00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:25,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. It's it's really about the number. Yeah, 996 00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:26,920 Speaker 3: I'm not rushing to bet this one because Chad's right, 997 00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:29,920 Speaker 3: this could easily go back up depending what quotes come 998 00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:32,640 Speaker 3: out this weekend. We've already missed the ten, so I'm 999 00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:34,200 Speaker 3: not going to rush that bet at but it's definitely 1000 00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:35,960 Speaker 3: a game on my radar of a dog. 1001 00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:39,000 Speaker 1: I like bears, haven't won a road game on a 1002 00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:42,040 Speaker 1: Sunday in three full calendar years, twenty straight games. The 1003 00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:47,040 Speaker 1: last QP to do it in this spot Nick Foles 1004 00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:50,439 Speaker 1: December of twenty one. There you go. He's the only guy. 1005 00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:53,320 Speaker 1: He's the only quarterback who can make us both happy Giants. 1006 00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:57,240 Speaker 3: Willy, you guys, didn't you go up to New England 1007 00:50:57,239 --> 00:51:00,400 Speaker 3: and beat New England on the road on a Thursday 1008 00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:01,520 Speaker 3: night game or something like that? 1009 00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:02,320 Speaker 1: I said, Sunday. 1010 00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:04,680 Speaker 3: Oh fuck, that's a good disclaimer. 1011 00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:08,480 Speaker 1: Sunday Okay, Yeah, New England and Philly, Philly is this 1012 00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:11,319 Speaker 1: is priced as if Philly is benching. Everyone has moved 1013 00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:14,120 Speaker 1: from four and a half to three. Giants, you know, 1014 00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:17,359 Speaker 1: had the number one pick, and now it's over. If 1015 00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:19,720 Speaker 1: they win, they could actually fall out of the top five. 1016 00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:23,920 Speaker 1: My week, neighbors, I think wants to go off in 1017 00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:26,320 Speaker 1: this game. And this is one of those games where 1018 00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:28,520 Speaker 1: you back the team with a win percentage of twenty 1019 00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:32,560 Speaker 1: five percent or less. So the Giants are just stupid 1020 00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:34,960 Speaker 1: enough to keep trying to win here, and. 1021 00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:36,520 Speaker 3: I'm pissed the move. This was gonna be my signment, 1022 00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:38,560 Speaker 3: says play. I loved it. It was four when we 1023 00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:40,319 Speaker 3: talked about Sunday, and like you just said, it's now, 1024 00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:43,080 Speaker 3: it's down to three. At most books still would better now. 1025 00:51:43,080 --> 00:51:47,280 Speaker 3: I still think it's gonna keep dropping. Obviously, Terry McKee 1026 00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:49,360 Speaker 3: looked good for his four passes. He came in and 1027 00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:52,640 Speaker 3: played for the Eagles. But you expect the Giants to 1028 00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:55,319 Speaker 3: keep playing hard with the Eagles. This is a vacation week. 1029 00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:56,919 Speaker 3: I know they're gonna their backups in there. We're gonna 1030 00:51:56,960 --> 00:52:00,719 Speaker 3: be trying, but you know, just looking at this matchup, 1031 00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:03,319 Speaker 3: it just feels like another game that as the game 1032 00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:06,080 Speaker 3: goes along, Eagles will keep pulling out guys right, putting 1033 00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:10,080 Speaker 3: special teamers in the play linebacker, safety, or corner, like 1034 00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:12,560 Speaker 3: just giving them reps in time that they never get 1035 00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:14,800 Speaker 3: in the regular season. And the flip side of the Giants. 1036 00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:17,200 Speaker 3: I totally get why people want to fade them. Right 1037 00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:21,120 Speaker 3: after Drew Lock's best game, you expect it to drop off, right, 1038 00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:22,799 Speaker 3: You expect them they'll just lay down and have a 1039 00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:25,120 Speaker 3: bad game here. But I think Chad's right, like this 1040 00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:27,640 Speaker 3: just feels like another team that could script their draft position, 1041 00:52:28,040 --> 00:52:30,680 Speaker 3: come out, play hard. You know, they don't care, like 1042 00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:32,799 Speaker 3: they just they want to win. They don't care about 1043 00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:34,000 Speaker 3: what the draft. They don't even if they be on 1044 00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:37,480 Speaker 3: this team next year, let alone. So yeah, just all 1045 00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:39,719 Speaker 3: about the number. Feels like this is still too high 1046 00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:42,480 Speaker 3: plus three. The value just is all on this Giants team. 1047 00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:46,200 Speaker 1: At this point, Chargers are five point favorites against five 1048 00:52:46,239 --> 00:52:48,840 Speaker 1: and a half point favorites against the Raiders. The Chargers 1049 00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:51,879 Speaker 1: kind of know what they need. When they play Steelers win, 1050 00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:54,600 Speaker 1: Chargers will be a six seed. If the Steelers lose, 1051 00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:57,359 Speaker 1: then the Chargers have to win to be the fifth seed. 1052 00:52:58,040 --> 00:52:59,719 Speaker 1: At five, they get the Texans at six, they get 1053 00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:02,160 Speaker 1: the rate events. Do we take the Chargers now as 1054 00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:05,400 Speaker 1: a hedge in case the Steelers lose and this line 1055 00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:09,360 Speaker 1: goes up because of motivation. Normally you'd want to fade 1056 00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:15,600 Speaker 1: the favorite against the bad team. 1057 00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:15,080 Speaker 3: But. 1058 00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:20,600 Speaker 1: We like playing the Chargers. They don't stop trying, especially 1059 00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:23,480 Speaker 1: if they have a little bit of motivation. And I 1060 00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:25,600 Speaker 1: think we're at the top of the market on the Raiders. 1061 00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:28,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's interesting. 1062 00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:30,000 Speaker 3: A lot of pros I've talked to Chad, they actually 1063 00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:32,279 Speaker 3: really like the Raiders here. They like this r they do. 1064 00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:35,000 Speaker 1: I know why, because the pros all season long they 1065 00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:37,399 Speaker 1: like the shitty teams that are underdogs and that's why 1066 00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:38,480 Speaker 1: they've been fucking losing. 1067 00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:41,239 Speaker 3: Not even that, I think it's it's more about how 1068 00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:43,160 Speaker 3: they've been playing down the stretch here, Like they've been 1069 00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:46,959 Speaker 3: really competitive against bad teams. And I think I agree 1070 00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:49,200 Speaker 3: with you and the fact that this Chargers team is 1071 00:53:49,239 --> 00:53:50,360 Speaker 3: such a huge step. 1072 00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:51,879 Speaker 2: Above those teams they've been being up on. 1073 00:53:52,040 --> 00:53:54,799 Speaker 3: Like this is a legit good team that you know, 1074 00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:57,799 Speaker 3: Vegas is gonna have an O'Connell making mistakes, They're not 1075 00:53:57,840 --> 00:53:59,600 Speaker 3: going to get the ball back right. This Chargers team 1076 00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:01,520 Speaker 3: is going to dominate them if they do make the 1077 00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:04,360 Speaker 3: stupid mistakes. So nothing changed for me. I'm still with 1078 00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:06,239 Speaker 3: you on the Chargers team still like at a five 1079 00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:09,319 Speaker 3: and a half. You know, I get where the pros 1080 00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:12,280 Speaker 3: are coming from. The Vegas has been playing better, but this, 1081 00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:13,600 Speaker 3: this Chargers team just feels like they're. 1082 00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:15,080 Speaker 2: Hitting on every level right now. 1083 00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:18,840 Speaker 3: Like they just seem like so in control offensively, defensively, 1084 00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:20,880 Speaker 3: it feels like they found their identity as well. Like 1085 00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:24,160 Speaker 3: even Khalil Mack and Bosa have been playing really well 1086 00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:28,200 Speaker 3: down the stretchers. So yeah, Chargers team is probably a 1087 00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:30,319 Speaker 3: little underrated here at this point. Chad, You're right, this 1088 00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:32,080 Speaker 3: probably could get up to six and a half seven 1089 00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:34,759 Speaker 3: by kickoff if they are playing all out for this game. 1090 00:54:35,239 --> 00:54:42,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, totally. Okay, are you ready four my executive decision? 1091 00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:44,239 Speaker 2: Do it? 1092 00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:52,400 Speaker 1: I'm going with a road favorite, the Seattle Seahawks minus 1093 00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:56,759 Speaker 1: three against the Los Angeles Rams. The choice between the 1094 00:54:56,960 --> 00:54:58,920 Speaker 1: unthinkable and the impossible? 1095 00:54:59,080 --> 00:55:03,280 Speaker 3: Are you Heavyrwners? Thanks for your executive decision. 1096 00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:06,160 Speaker 1: The Rams actually have something to play for. If they win, 1097 00:55:06,200 --> 00:55:08,319 Speaker 1: they get the three seed. They play Green Bay or 1098 00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:10,880 Speaker 1: Washington at home. If they lose, they played Minnesota Detroit 1099 00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:15,560 Speaker 1: at home. But Sean McVay set on his radio show 1100 00:55:15,640 --> 00:55:19,680 Speaker 1: yesterday this is how deep we go that he's leaning 1101 00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:23,239 Speaker 1: towards resting his starters. He even said he was excited 1102 00:55:23,239 --> 00:55:26,920 Speaker 1: to see how Jimmy Garoppolo could do. He's excited to 1103 00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:30,400 Speaker 1: see how Blake Korham could do with more carries. Pretty 1104 00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:35,000 Speaker 1: good indication to me that the Rams are going to 1105 00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:38,399 Speaker 1: be resting the Seahawks while they beat the Bears. Are 1106 00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:41,120 Speaker 1: still one of those teams where they're getting less than 1107 00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:43,880 Speaker 1: thirty percent of the public ticket of the betting tickets, 1108 00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:46,160 Speaker 1: so the public is fading them, and they're coming off 1109 00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:50,879 Speaker 1: a game in which they scored single digits. And then 1110 00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:59,160 Speaker 1: there's this Gino is due four million dollars in incentive 1111 00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:02,359 Speaker 1: if he throws for another one hundred and eighty six 1112 00:56:02,440 --> 00:56:07,200 Speaker 1: yards and he finishes with a completion percentage of sixty 1113 00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:10,920 Speaker 1: nine point seventy five. He's at seventy point two. So 1114 00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:15,319 Speaker 1: for each of those he gets two million dollars. He's 1115 00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:17,840 Speaker 1: going to come into this game. He's gonna want to 1116 00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:22,040 Speaker 1: fire away. The Rams are going to be resting their starters. 1117 00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:26,400 Speaker 1: Give me the Seahawks and Gino going for four Mili 1118 00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:29,120 Speaker 1: minus three. 1119 00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:30,359 Speaker 2: I don't hate it. 1120 00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:32,880 Speaker 3: And the only scary part is, yes, Seattle is not 1121 00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:34,799 Speaker 3: playing for a single thing, right, Gino is the only 1122 00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:36,080 Speaker 3: one really sounds like he's motive here. 1123 00:56:36,080 --> 00:56:37,399 Speaker 2: I'm so there's other guys that have. 1124 00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:42,480 Speaker 3: Money incentives, but yeah, the biggest thing to me is 1125 00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:45,480 Speaker 3: just the fact that the Rams had a pretty bad 1126 00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:49,719 Speaker 3: offensive line. Now they're putting their backups in with Jimmy Garoppolo. Like, 1127 00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:52,440 Speaker 3: to me, that's that makes you really fired up to 1128 00:56:52,520 --> 00:56:55,680 Speaker 3: back the Seattle team. That they do have a good 1129 00:56:55,680 --> 00:56:57,920 Speaker 3: pass rush, and like we just said, they're playing their 1130 00:56:57,960 --> 00:57:02,160 Speaker 3: starters so that they're gonna playing their So I agree 1131 00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:02,279 Speaker 3: with you. 1132 00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:03,520 Speaker 2: I like Seattle in the. 1133 00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:06,879 Speaker 3: Spot, especially the fact that we're getting against a Ramps. 1134 00:57:06,880 --> 00:57:09,560 Speaker 3: Seem that there are another team that's top heavy, right 1135 00:57:09,560 --> 00:57:11,919 Speaker 3: there are Stars and scrub team, and they've drafted well 1136 00:57:11,960 --> 00:57:13,840 Speaker 3: now like these last couple of years, they have drafted 1137 00:57:13,840 --> 00:57:15,280 Speaker 3: really well, and they have some really good young talent. 1138 00:57:16,040 --> 00:57:17,560 Speaker 3: I've read that none of those kids are going to 1139 00:57:17,600 --> 00:57:19,800 Speaker 3: play either. Like McVeigh is basically going to set all 1140 00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:21,439 Speaker 3: these guys. Try to give them this by a week 1141 00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:23,720 Speaker 3: so huge deal. Like Chad just said, if you can 1142 00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:26,560 Speaker 3: get them minus three, that's that's really a great number 1143 00:57:26,560 --> 00:57:27,680 Speaker 3: for the Seattle team. 1144 00:57:29,480 --> 00:57:31,400 Speaker 1: I'm glad We're in an agreement on that. I also 1145 00:57:31,600 --> 00:57:34,560 Speaker 1: like that they've got a first year coach. They're going 1146 00:57:34,600 --> 00:57:36,320 Speaker 1: to want to finish as strong as they can. They 1147 00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:38,280 Speaker 1: want to win as many games as they can. A 1148 00:57:38,280 --> 00:57:40,360 Speaker 1: lot of these guys are going to be back next year, 1149 00:57:40,680 --> 00:57:42,640 Speaker 1: so it is going to matter to them how they 1150 00:57:42,680 --> 00:57:45,240 Speaker 1: finish the season, how they show up on tape. Miami 1151 00:57:45,240 --> 00:57:47,000 Speaker 1: at the New York Jets. The Jets are plus one, 1152 00:57:47,040 --> 00:57:51,360 Speaker 1: two is still questionable. Miami is only in if Denver 1153 00:57:51,600 --> 00:57:54,680 Speaker 1: loses to case. I'm not sure. I'm worried about the 1154 00:57:54,720 --> 00:57:56,919 Speaker 1: quarterback status here, to be honest, Like we were willing 1155 00:57:56,920 --> 00:58:00,920 Speaker 1: to bet Huntley, you know, back in the day in 1156 00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:05,360 Speaker 1: the playoffs against good teams, and he played well against 1157 00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:07,800 Speaker 1: the Browns. Eighty percent of his passes were completed twenty 1158 00:58:07,800 --> 00:58:11,200 Speaker 1: two to twenty six to twenty five in a touch like, 1159 00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:13,960 Speaker 1: what are the Jets plan for here? It makes no 1160 00:58:14,120 --> 00:58:16,840 Speaker 1: sense to me. There is money coming in on the 1161 00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:21,280 Speaker 1: Jets right now. Why are professional betters week after week? 1162 00:58:21,480 --> 00:58:25,360 Speaker 1: I know you to bet the Jets. Sauce Gardner and 1163 00:58:25,400 --> 00:58:29,200 Speaker 1: Dj Reeder already talking about guys who quit. I know 1164 00:58:29,240 --> 00:58:31,240 Speaker 1: we want to back the teams after a blowout, But 1165 00:58:32,240 --> 00:58:35,920 Speaker 1: what are we doing here? This is just silly. 1166 00:58:36,360 --> 00:58:37,920 Speaker 2: What if it's our guy, Tyra Taylor? 1167 00:58:37,960 --> 00:58:43,800 Speaker 1: Though you think it will be, I don't know. 1168 00:58:43,880 --> 00:58:47,280 Speaker 3: I've the stuff I read. It seems like the hate 1169 00:58:47,640 --> 00:58:53,200 Speaker 3: is mutual between Rogers and ownership, and I would honestly 1170 00:58:53,240 --> 00:58:54,640 Speaker 3: love for them to sit him so he can't get 1171 00:58:54,640 --> 00:58:59,120 Speaker 3: his five hundredth passing touchdown. To Adam I mean to 1172 00:58:59,120 --> 00:59:01,480 Speaker 3: Adams really wants Rogers, wants to do it with them. 1173 00:59:02,200 --> 00:59:04,720 Speaker 3: I would love if they sat him, and they're just like, Nah, 1174 00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:08,920 Speaker 3: you don't deserve it. I saw another really funny meme 1175 00:59:09,120 --> 00:59:12,120 Speaker 3: and it was basically it was four quarterbacks played in 1176 00:59:12,160 --> 00:59:15,880 Speaker 3: that Bills game. Three of them all had touchdowns passing. 1177 00:59:16,240 --> 00:59:18,960 Speaker 3: The only one that did it was Aaron Rodgers. Yeah, 1178 00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:21,920 Speaker 3: I mean Mitch u Bisky, tyrod Taylor just outshining Rogers. 1179 00:59:21,960 --> 00:59:26,080 Speaker 3: So yeah, it's it's all bad in New York. And 1180 00:59:26,080 --> 00:59:28,560 Speaker 3: you're right, Chet, I'm a sucker like these their professionals. 1181 00:59:28,560 --> 00:59:30,280 Speaker 3: Immediately when I saw this number, I was like, oh, 1182 00:59:30,320 --> 00:59:33,240 Speaker 3: I can't wait to bet the Jets, but time I've 1183 00:59:33,280 --> 00:59:35,120 Speaker 3: had to sit on it. I don't want to put 1184 00:59:35,160 --> 00:59:37,400 Speaker 3: any money any more money on this Jets team. Or 1185 00:59:37,440 --> 00:59:40,120 Speaker 3: even involve myself in a game with them. So I 1186 00:59:40,160 --> 00:59:43,400 Speaker 3: get if you're on Miami's side. It's the chalk the 1187 00:59:43,440 --> 00:59:46,040 Speaker 3: public has been winning on these road favorites. Like, I'm 1188 00:59:46,040 --> 00:59:48,080 Speaker 3: not going to try to talk anyone off bet in Miami. 1189 00:59:48,160 --> 00:59:50,880 Speaker 3: I just my instincts. I can't do it, and I 1190 00:59:51,320 --> 00:59:53,360 Speaker 3: just I hate the Jets at this point, I do 1191 00:59:53,440 --> 00:59:54,800 Speaker 3: not want to put any more money in this team. 1192 00:59:54,840 --> 00:59:56,480 Speaker 2: So this is the game I'm gonna happily pass on. 1193 00:59:56,920 --> 01:00:00,480 Speaker 1: Wow, I'm surprised to hear that the dolph and seemed 1194 01:00:00,520 --> 01:00:01,880 Speaker 1: like such the obvious play. 1195 01:00:02,880 --> 01:00:05,440 Speaker 3: The Dolphins suck. They got lucky as hell that the 1196 01:00:05,480 --> 01:00:08,640 Speaker 3: Cleveland just laid down and died last week. So I 1197 01:00:08,680 --> 01:00:12,760 Speaker 3: give you coming from though. Like as far as vibes go, Yeah, 1198 01:00:12,880 --> 01:00:16,640 Speaker 3: Miami is way better right now than this Jets team. 1199 01:00:17,160 --> 01:00:21,360 Speaker 1: Sempster's scoring Arizona, congrats to anyone like Evan Abrams who 1200 01:00:21,360 --> 01:00:25,360 Speaker 1: bet the Cardinals is underdogs before the brock Purty injury 1201 01:00:25,440 --> 01:00:30,960 Speaker 1: last night. Yeah, questionable status like to me given the 1202 01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:35,040 Speaker 1: injury status, uh, and the Cards now with three point favorites, 1203 01:00:36,120 --> 01:00:37,680 Speaker 1: this is a game, Like, we got plenty of games 1204 01:00:37,720 --> 01:00:39,800 Speaker 1: we can choose from. For five we got two more 1205 01:00:39,840 --> 01:00:42,320 Speaker 1: games more to discuss. I don't have a strong opinion 1206 01:00:42,320 --> 01:00:42,840 Speaker 1: on this game. 1207 01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:46,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's looking like the pastor not's gonna be the quarterback, right, 1208 01:00:47,280 --> 01:00:52,360 Speaker 3: So pretty pretty insane. Now that Brock purty reinjured that 1209 01:00:52,400 --> 01:00:54,480 Speaker 3: elbow he had surgery on what was a year and 1210 01:00:54,480 --> 01:00:55,280 Speaker 3: a half ago. 1211 01:00:55,240 --> 01:00:58,000 Speaker 1: He said it wasn't the elbow. Everyone has been saying 1212 01:00:58,040 --> 01:01:01,320 Speaker 1: that it feels okay, nerves. I haven't seen the latest updates. 1213 01:01:01,560 --> 01:01:03,000 Speaker 1: That was what I saw before we came on the 1214 01:01:03,040 --> 01:01:07,160 Speaker 1: air today, so you know what, what's new. Supposed to 1215 01:01:07,200 --> 01:01:10,560 Speaker 1: get some MRI today. But he was saying yesterday that 1216 01:01:10,640 --> 01:01:11,960 Speaker 1: it was more nerves than elbow. 1217 01:01:13,040 --> 01:01:14,640 Speaker 3: That's why I thought was elbow though, because that is 1218 01:01:14,680 --> 01:01:16,760 Speaker 3: all connected to your your hands and your fingers where 1219 01:01:16,760 --> 01:01:20,080 Speaker 3: he couldn't grip the ball apparently, and it's like that 1220 01:01:20,080 --> 01:01:22,640 Speaker 3: that's usually it could be something frequent, it's a back 1221 01:01:22,680 --> 01:01:25,320 Speaker 3: problem or like these doctors are saying that could be 1222 01:01:25,680 --> 01:01:28,400 Speaker 3: from his elbow surgery. So maybe he's just trying to 1223 01:01:28,400 --> 01:01:31,840 Speaker 3: say face. We know obviously, you know, big off season 1224 01:01:31,880 --> 01:01:34,120 Speaker 3: for Purdy. He's trying to get a contract right now, 1225 01:01:34,240 --> 01:01:38,959 Speaker 3: and you know, I was looking like he's basically gonna 1226 01:01:39,000 --> 01:01:40,440 Speaker 3: lock it up in that game if they felt like 1227 01:01:40,480 --> 01:01:43,000 Speaker 3: if they had won that game and he didn't have 1228 01:01:43,040 --> 01:01:46,959 Speaker 3: those true those two interceptions, it felt like they probably 1229 01:01:46,960 --> 01:01:49,040 Speaker 3: would end up giveting the deal. But that that second pick, 1230 01:01:49,080 --> 01:01:51,440 Speaker 3: they showed John Lynch up in the box of just 1231 01:01:51,480 --> 01:01:52,280 Speaker 3: pure disgusted. 1232 01:01:52,640 --> 01:01:56,120 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you could see the money draining from his 1233 01:01:56,160 --> 01:01:59,680 Speaker 1: bank account as he threw those picks and Kyle Shanahan 1234 01:01:59,800 --> 01:02:03,720 Speaker 1: going nuts, going he's so mad. He's so mad that 1235 01:02:03,800 --> 01:02:07,520 Speaker 1: he's got to cover his face with the play sheet 1236 01:02:07,760 --> 01:02:11,240 Speaker 1: when he's talking into the mic after that first overthrow 1237 01:02:11,400 --> 01:02:15,640 Speaker 1: interception that Purty threw, Like you can't imagine what he 1238 01:02:15,760 --> 01:02:18,080 Speaker 1: was saying. I haven't seen the press conference to see 1239 01:02:18,080 --> 01:02:20,280 Speaker 1: if anyone asked what he was saying, because it was 1240 01:02:20,320 --> 01:02:22,920 Speaker 1: so obvious and such a great piece of television video 1241 01:02:23,440 --> 01:02:27,600 Speaker 1: to see him just losing and then John Lynch losing 1242 01:02:27,680 --> 01:02:30,880 Speaker 1: his mind after the second one. Those were not good 1243 01:02:30,920 --> 01:02:33,600 Speaker 1: throws and like he was brilliant, but those were money 1244 01:02:33,600 --> 01:02:34,720 Speaker 1: losing throws last night. 1245 01:02:35,400 --> 01:02:37,400 Speaker 3: But I mean, I saw a lot of the tweets 1246 01:02:37,400 --> 01:02:40,240 Speaker 3: about it, like this has been the problem with Brock Purdy. 1247 01:02:40,280 --> 01:02:43,920 Speaker 3: When his team is behind, he is horrible statistically, Like 1248 01:02:43,960 --> 01:02:46,280 Speaker 3: he has I believe when he's been trailing in his career, 1249 01:02:46,320 --> 01:02:48,880 Speaker 3: he has three touchdowns to seven interceptions. Like, he's just 1250 01:02:48,960 --> 01:02:52,240 Speaker 3: struggled really bad in those exact scenarios where he's coming 1251 01:02:52,280 --> 01:02:54,360 Speaker 3: from behind, need to push the ball downfield and the 1252 01:02:54,400 --> 01:02:56,800 Speaker 3: defense knows he's having to push the ball downfield, and 1253 01:02:56,840 --> 01:02:59,919 Speaker 3: he struggled. So my immaily thought was like Sam Darnod 1254 01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:03,040 Speaker 3: agent just texting a bunch of money bags to John 1255 01:03:03,120 --> 01:03:09,680 Speaker 3: Lynch like that. That's me my first initial thought. So, yeah, 1256 01:03:09,680 --> 01:03:13,360 Speaker 3: in this game, it's all about where the number goes, Chad, 1257 01:03:13,400 --> 01:03:15,400 Speaker 3: if this gets up to three and a half, how 1258 01:03:15,400 --> 01:03:19,240 Speaker 3: do we not fail? Fade Kyler Murray Like this is 1259 01:03:19,280 --> 01:03:22,360 Speaker 3: the exact game he does not win. He's just he's 1260 01:03:22,360 --> 01:03:26,960 Speaker 3: been so disappointed Kyler Murray. And you know, I am 1261 01:03:27,040 --> 01:03:28,959 Speaker 3: tempteded to forty nineers here, but you just said it's 1262 01:03:28,960 --> 01:03:30,800 Speaker 3: like I'm on a rush about this one. There's plenty 1263 01:03:30,800 --> 01:03:32,640 Speaker 3: of other games I'm happy to bet where we have 1264 01:03:32,680 --> 01:03:35,720 Speaker 3: more infos. So once again, if it gets them three 1265 01:03:35,760 --> 01:03:37,880 Speaker 3: and a half, four, I almost like you gonna be 1266 01:03:37,920 --> 01:03:39,800 Speaker 3: the forty nine ers at this point, I'm not betting it. 1267 01:03:40,760 --> 01:03:44,840 Speaker 1: Casey at Denver. Denver's a ten point favorite. I just 1268 01:03:44,920 --> 01:03:51,840 Speaker 1: keep feeling like this number is so high. And the Chiefs, 1269 01:03:52,520 --> 01:03:56,240 Speaker 1: the Chiefs are a one loss team who have been 1270 01:03:56,240 --> 01:04:01,920 Speaker 1: playing second stringers in various positions all season long. I 1271 01:04:02,000 --> 01:04:05,320 Speaker 1: know they're gonna play Carson Wentz. But if anybody can 1272 01:04:05,360 --> 01:04:09,160 Speaker 1: make Carson Wentz a serviceable quarterback and put him in 1273 01:04:09,160 --> 01:04:11,200 Speaker 1: the position to make the exact right play at the 1274 01:04:11,200 --> 01:04:13,560 Speaker 1: exact right time three or four times in the game, 1275 01:04:14,760 --> 01:04:20,120 Speaker 1: isn't it Andy Reid against like bow Knicks, who I 1276 01:04:20,160 --> 01:04:23,680 Speaker 1: have a great stat for you, great stat. But let's 1277 01:04:23,720 --> 01:04:28,040 Speaker 1: be serious about bo Nicks. He's been throwing picks like 1278 01:04:28,120 --> 01:04:31,600 Speaker 1: he's just like he just gives the ball away the 1279 01:04:31,720 --> 01:04:35,160 Speaker 1: last four or five games, including against the Bengals. So 1280 01:04:37,320 --> 01:04:39,760 Speaker 1: why am I so confident in a Denver team is 1281 01:04:39,800 --> 01:04:41,360 Speaker 1: a ten point favorite. I know they got to win, 1282 01:04:41,520 --> 01:04:42,840 Speaker 1: but feels like a lot. 1283 01:04:44,240 --> 01:04:46,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, and this is going to be part of my 1284 01:04:46,120 --> 01:04:50,360 Speaker 3: little money line round Robin brother. Like the Chiefs plus 1285 01:04:50,360 --> 01:04:57,400 Speaker 3: three ninety, you know, Bears plus three ten, and the capitolf. 1286 01:04:56,960 --> 01:04:58,280 Speaker 2: Of Carolina plus three forty. 1287 01:04:58,280 --> 01:05:01,680 Speaker 3: I just I think all these numbers too big, too much, 1288 01:05:01,680 --> 01:05:04,160 Speaker 3: you respect, and that any of these teams could pull 1289 01:05:04,160 --> 01:05:07,880 Speaker 3: an upset on these teams, and you know the public 1290 01:05:07,920 --> 01:05:11,080 Speaker 3: perception of the Chiefs will just roll over and die 1291 01:05:11,120 --> 01:05:14,280 Speaker 3: here and that they want this team to win in Denver, right, 1292 01:05:14,320 --> 01:05:16,640 Speaker 3: they'd much rather have the Denver make the playoffs. 1293 01:05:16,800 --> 01:05:18,120 Speaker 2: How does that help them in any way? 1294 01:05:18,240 --> 01:05:20,360 Speaker 3: Denver is going to play the Bills like they don't care. 1295 01:05:20,440 --> 01:05:23,240 Speaker 3: They're trying to win this game. Especially Carson Wentz, this 1296 01:05:23,360 --> 01:05:25,760 Speaker 3: is a big mum for him to show off that 1297 01:05:25,800 --> 01:05:27,600 Speaker 3: he's still got it and he's hoping to get picked 1298 01:05:27,640 --> 01:05:30,040 Speaker 3: up by another team. And we've seen that in these 1299 01:05:30,120 --> 01:05:32,160 Speaker 3: last weeks, right. I mean the one that really jumps 1300 01:05:32,160 --> 01:05:36,479 Speaker 3: out to me will always be the teams that start 1301 01:05:36,520 --> 01:05:38,160 Speaker 3: the backup quarterback and they could come out and just 1302 01:05:38,280 --> 01:05:39,760 Speaker 3: like the light it up and they can get a 1303 01:05:39,760 --> 01:05:42,000 Speaker 3: contract that way. And this feels like this exact scenario 1304 01:05:42,480 --> 01:05:46,360 Speaker 3: for Carson Wentz and I agree. You know, the fear 1305 01:05:46,480 --> 01:05:49,200 Speaker 3: is this Chiefs offensive line is really really bad, even 1306 01:05:49,240 --> 01:05:51,720 Speaker 3: the starters, that their backups are going to be absolutely brutal, 1307 01:05:52,000 --> 01:05:54,840 Speaker 3: and denverroll be able to attack that. I think there's 1308 01:05:54,880 --> 01:05:56,640 Speaker 3: gonna be ways for Rain to redaccounter that, like he's 1309 01:05:56,680 --> 01:05:58,640 Speaker 3: no dummy. If he needs to keep another tight ending 1310 01:05:58,680 --> 01:06:01,360 Speaker 3: and keep their running back in there. He'll do that happily. 1311 01:06:01,440 --> 01:06:04,440 Speaker 3: And we've seen with Carson Wentz that he can have 1312 01:06:04,480 --> 01:06:06,600 Speaker 3: a game where he can look like an all pro, 1313 01:06:06,920 --> 01:06:08,040 Speaker 3: or he can go the other way. He can just 1314 01:06:08,040 --> 01:06:09,800 Speaker 3: be absolutely terrible from the get go right and we're 1315 01:06:09,800 --> 01:06:12,400 Speaker 3: burned right away. But at ten points, we have a 1316 01:06:12,440 --> 01:06:14,800 Speaker 3: lot of built in insurance on that, like we're it's 1317 01:06:14,800 --> 01:06:17,240 Speaker 3: already built in the fact that this is all backups 1318 01:06:17,560 --> 01:06:19,880 Speaker 3: and Carson Wentz can struggle in these tepe scenarios. So 1319 01:06:20,400 --> 01:06:22,960 Speaker 3: you're right, ten point being a ten point favorite for 1320 01:06:22,960 --> 01:06:26,320 Speaker 3: a rookie way way too many points, way too much respect. 1321 01:06:26,400 --> 01:06:27,920 Speaker 2: And I think the. 1322 01:06:29,600 --> 01:06:32,360 Speaker 3: Not the books, but the public is really like, there's 1323 01:06:32,360 --> 01:06:34,480 Speaker 3: no chance this Chiefs team is gonna win or cover 1324 01:06:34,520 --> 01:06:38,160 Speaker 3: this number. Now I've seen some like smart books have 1325 01:06:38,480 --> 01:06:41,640 Speaker 3: taken some really smart money all this Chiefs team, and 1326 01:06:41,680 --> 01:06:43,520 Speaker 3: they even against it, have moved it up. So they 1327 01:06:43,560 --> 01:06:44,880 Speaker 3: moved it from nine to nine and a half up 1328 01:06:44,920 --> 01:06:47,600 Speaker 3: to ten. So a little nerve wracking because it's basically 1329 01:06:47,640 --> 01:06:49,960 Speaker 3: them taking a stand here on this Denver team. But 1330 01:06:50,440 --> 01:06:52,320 Speaker 3: I do love this spot for this Chiefs team, even 1331 01:06:52,360 --> 01:06:53,160 Speaker 3: with Carson Wentz. 1332 01:06:54,080 --> 01:06:57,600 Speaker 1: So let me lay the stat on you ready Bonix 1333 01:06:57,640 --> 01:07:01,200 Speaker 1: has closed as a favorite seven times and teen career starts. 1334 01:07:01,240 --> 01:07:04,960 Speaker 1: Thank you, Evan seven and oh straight up and against 1335 01:07:04,960 --> 01:07:08,520 Speaker 1: the spread, covering by twelve point one points per game, 1336 01:07:09,080 --> 01:07:12,400 Speaker 1: the lone remaining QB undefeated against the spread as a 1337 01:07:12,440 --> 01:07:13,160 Speaker 1: favorite this year. 1338 01:07:13,600 --> 01:07:16,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, that is in insane set seven and zero. That's crazy. 1339 01:07:16,600 --> 01:07:19,440 Speaker 1: It's crazy, right because he was. 1340 01:07:19,440 --> 01:07:22,040 Speaker 3: So dominant on the as a road as a road 1341 01:07:22,600 --> 01:07:25,120 Speaker 3: you know, bet, Like that's why we loved him yes 1342 01:07:25,200 --> 01:07:27,040 Speaker 3: week is he had basically covered every week as a 1343 01:07:27,120 --> 01:07:30,400 Speaker 3: road road dog. So that's that's that's an insane run 1344 01:07:30,400 --> 01:07:30,800 Speaker 3: he's been on. 1345 01:07:31,280 --> 01:07:33,280 Speaker 1: All good streaks come to an end, and I believe 1346 01:07:33,320 --> 01:07:34,040 Speaker 1: this could be the week. 1347 01:07:34,160 --> 01:07:34,560 Speaker 2: Let's go. 1348 01:07:34,800 --> 01:07:37,520 Speaker 1: That's Minnesota at Detroit. 1349 01:07:38,000 --> 01:07:40,480 Speaker 3: I love this freaking team. I love the coaches, I 1350 01:07:40,560 --> 01:07:42,840 Speaker 3: love the players, I love everything about it. Man, we 1351 01:07:42,880 --> 01:07:45,600 Speaker 3: are so freaking hardened. Even when she doesn't go the 1352 01:07:45,600 --> 01:07:47,440 Speaker 3: way we want it to, maybe you find a way. 1353 01:07:47,640 --> 01:07:51,600 Speaker 1: Look, I love the NFL. They're so fucking smart. Like 1354 01:07:51,960 --> 01:07:55,520 Speaker 1: they made us all wait until Monday to get the schedule. 1355 01:07:55,840 --> 01:07:58,720 Speaker 1: Then they've got it all worked out, so no team 1356 01:07:58,960 --> 01:08:03,240 Speaker 1: knows like their situation except for one or two until 1357 01:08:03,800 --> 01:08:07,240 Speaker 1: they all play at the same time. It's just it's 1358 01:08:07,360 --> 01:08:10,120 Speaker 1: so good, and then they cap it with the game. 1359 01:08:10,160 --> 01:08:14,200 Speaker 1: When they made the schedule, they're hopeing like these late 1360 01:08:14,320 --> 01:08:20,400 Speaker 1: season division games will have a scenario like this Minnesota Detroit, 1361 01:08:20,400 --> 01:08:23,240 Speaker 1: Detroit's two and a half point favorite. I'm a little 1362 01:08:23,240 --> 01:08:26,000 Speaker 1: surprised this hasn't moved in the Vikings direction after last 1363 01:08:26,080 --> 01:08:29,760 Speaker 1: night because everything the Niners did, which is everything the 1364 01:08:29,800 --> 01:08:32,200 Speaker 1: Bills did a couple of weeks earlier, which is everything 1365 01:08:32,200 --> 01:08:34,400 Speaker 1: the Packers did against the Lions the week before, that 1366 01:08:35,080 --> 01:08:38,559 Speaker 1: is what the Vikings can do. Move the ball with 1367 01:08:38,760 --> 01:08:44,240 Speaker 1: ease against a beaten up and beaten down defense. The 1368 01:08:44,320 --> 01:08:48,439 Speaker 1: total has moved since last night from fifty two and 1369 01:08:48,520 --> 01:08:52,280 Speaker 1: a half to fifty seven and a half, highest total 1370 01:08:52,280 --> 01:08:57,000 Speaker 1: in a game since twenty twenty one. I still like Detroit. 1371 01:08:58,920 --> 01:09:01,080 Speaker 3: Now let's go from Let's start from the top. Though 1372 01:09:01,200 --> 01:09:04,639 Speaker 3: this is basically before the season started, me and Chad 1373 01:09:04,840 --> 01:09:06,960 Speaker 3: talk about our favorite team to win this division. 1374 01:09:07,000 --> 01:09:08,040 Speaker 2: We both like Detroit. 1375 01:09:08,600 --> 01:09:12,120 Speaker 3: I already talked about I like parlaye these divisional winners together. 1376 01:09:12,160 --> 01:09:14,000 Speaker 3: So if you are someone that followed that and you 1377 01:09:14,040 --> 01:09:18,080 Speaker 3: have Detroit paired with the Chiefs and the Eagles or whoever, 1378 01:09:18,840 --> 01:09:20,960 Speaker 3: This is like the dream scenario for hedging, like if 1379 01:09:21,000 --> 01:09:22,960 Speaker 3: you can get especially if you can find a plus three, 1380 01:09:22,960 --> 01:09:24,240 Speaker 3: I don't know if it's going to get back to it. 1381 01:09:24,240 --> 01:09:26,439 Speaker 3: You might have to unfortunately buy half a point to 1382 01:09:26,479 --> 01:09:30,880 Speaker 3: get up to that plus three. But we already talked 1383 01:09:30,880 --> 01:09:33,400 Speaker 3: about this one. This feels like whoever's the possession last 1384 01:09:33,479 --> 01:09:37,559 Speaker 3: wins this game Like this, both defenses we know can 1385 01:09:37,800 --> 01:09:41,200 Speaker 3: be moved against, like they're the Vikings have been a 1386 01:09:41,240 --> 01:09:43,760 Speaker 3: team that have excelled this season because of takeaways. Right, 1387 01:09:43,800 --> 01:09:46,040 Speaker 3: That's kind of been the thing that the saving grace 1388 01:09:46,080 --> 01:09:48,080 Speaker 3: for that defense that you know just doesn't have that 1389 01:09:48,160 --> 01:09:50,360 Speaker 3: much talent, right that we knew that coming to the season, 1390 01:09:50,400 --> 01:09:53,240 Speaker 3: but between scheme and takeaways, they've been able to really 1391 01:09:53,240 --> 01:09:58,320 Speaker 3: piece it together defensively. On Detroit side, Oh my god, Chad, 1392 01:09:58,640 --> 01:10:01,960 Speaker 3: like they just have nothing nothing. 1393 01:10:01,439 --> 01:10:05,960 Speaker 1: It's it's so sad to watch, Like the sideline shots 1394 01:10:06,000 --> 01:10:09,200 Speaker 1: of Aaron Glenn, the poor guy, Like he's just he's 1395 01:10:09,240 --> 01:10:12,240 Speaker 1: looking down at his play sheet and he's got those 1396 01:10:12,280 --> 01:10:15,799 Speaker 1: fun glasses on they're always a different color, and he's 1397 01:10:16,000 --> 01:10:19,759 Speaker 1: just he's looking for answers. He's yelling into his headset. 1398 01:10:19,800 --> 01:10:23,960 Speaker 1: There's just there's nothing they can do, like literally nothing. 1399 01:10:24,000 --> 01:10:27,320 Speaker 1: They just they're the Saints' offense, only you know, like 1400 01:10:28,080 --> 01:10:31,599 Speaker 1: they just don't have the players, and they desperately desperately 1401 01:10:31,600 --> 01:10:34,559 Speaker 1: need to win this game. They desperately desperately need to 1402 01:10:34,560 --> 01:10:37,680 Speaker 1: buy to get some guys some rest, to get some 1403 01:10:37,760 --> 01:10:40,559 Speaker 1: guys healthy so they can get two or three guys 1404 01:10:41,320 --> 01:10:44,840 Speaker 1: back by the time they're playing in the playoffs. I 1405 01:10:44,840 --> 01:10:47,840 Speaker 1: don't know how they're going to stop the Vikings, and 1406 01:10:47,880 --> 01:10:48,320 Speaker 1: I don't know. 1407 01:10:48,240 --> 01:10:51,880 Speaker 3: Who's betting Detroit. Honestly, after watching that game, I said, 1408 01:10:51,920 --> 01:10:53,280 Speaker 3: I wanted to be on Detroit. When it was two 1409 01:10:53,320 --> 01:10:54,479 Speaker 3: and a half, I was like, that feels like the 1410 01:10:54,640 --> 01:10:57,719 Speaker 3: right number for them. But after watching that defenseive seeing 1411 01:10:57,720 --> 01:11:00,680 Speaker 3: how their linebackers play, they have no speed. They have 1412 01:11:00,840 --> 01:11:02,920 Speaker 3: no speed in the middle of the field. That means 1413 01:11:02,960 --> 01:11:04,800 Speaker 3: you can attack the middle of the field at any 1414 01:11:04,800 --> 01:11:07,160 Speaker 3: time you want, and we know that's what O'Connor wants 1415 01:11:07,200 --> 01:11:07,639 Speaker 3: to do here. 1416 01:11:07,720 --> 01:11:12,920 Speaker 1: So Yeah, Sam Donaldi ist Sam Donald has been brilliant 1417 01:11:13,400 --> 01:11:15,800 Speaker 1: throwing between the numbers this year, and. 1418 01:11:15,760 --> 01:11:17,400 Speaker 3: It's interesting looking at the early money here in the 1419 01:11:17,400 --> 01:11:21,559 Speaker 3: action app. It's it's basically all Detroit, which is honestly surprising. Yeah, 1420 01:11:21,640 --> 01:11:24,519 Speaker 3: the fact that this team is on a short week 1421 01:11:25,680 --> 01:11:28,559 Speaker 3: and they're already devastated all those like we talked about 1422 01:11:28,560 --> 01:11:31,200 Speaker 3: all those injuries. You know, I think they were talking 1423 01:11:31,200 --> 01:11:33,920 Speaker 3: about the broadcast last night. They had one of the 1424 01:11:33,920 --> 01:11:36,280 Speaker 3: earliest bye weeks in the whole season. So it's like 1425 01:11:37,760 --> 01:11:40,839 Speaker 3: not a good matchup for a spot for this team. 1426 01:11:40,920 --> 01:11:44,760 Speaker 3: And you know, maybe it's a human all of it 1427 01:11:44,800 --> 01:11:47,519 Speaker 3: to me, but I just I want the Vikings to 1428 01:11:47,520 --> 01:11:49,479 Speaker 3: get this one seed at this point. Like as much 1429 01:11:49,479 --> 01:11:51,240 Speaker 3: as I love this Detroit team, and I've already said 1430 01:11:51,280 --> 01:11:54,800 Speaker 3: I'm on record about it, like Detroit the Bills heading 1431 01:11:54,840 --> 01:11:57,400 Speaker 3: to this Super Bowl run. If I had to pick 1432 01:11:57,439 --> 01:11:59,000 Speaker 3: a seam outside the Eagles, these are the teams I 1433 01:11:59,000 --> 01:12:01,200 Speaker 3: want to win the Super Bowl. I love Detroit's fan base, 1434 01:12:01,400 --> 01:12:04,200 Speaker 3: Bill's fan base, two best fan bases. No one has 1435 01:12:04,240 --> 01:12:05,680 Speaker 3: been through more hell in those two fans. I mean, 1436 01:12:05,680 --> 01:12:10,720 Speaker 3: guess the Browns. But like they broke the curse last year, right, 1437 01:12:10,760 --> 01:12:12,559 Speaker 3: they had one playoff win in fifty years. They won 1438 01:12:12,600 --> 01:12:14,920 Speaker 3: two playoff games last year. It was all lined up 1439 01:12:15,200 --> 01:12:17,599 Speaker 3: for Detroit and they just got screwed, Like they got 1440 01:12:17,600 --> 01:12:20,439 Speaker 3: screwed by injury bug. And you know, man Campbell he's 1441 01:12:20,439 --> 01:12:22,840 Speaker 3: gonna be aggressive, he's gonna keep doing his fourth down thing, 1442 01:12:22,880 --> 01:12:25,080 Speaker 3: and you know Ben Johnson is just in his back 1443 01:12:25,200 --> 01:12:28,400 Speaker 3: calling these great plays in these really unique situations. It's 1444 01:12:28,479 --> 01:12:30,599 Speaker 3: gonna catch them. Like they they of all the teams 1445 01:12:30,600 --> 01:12:32,479 Speaker 3: in the playoffs, they need the most amount of luck 1446 01:12:32,840 --> 01:12:35,040 Speaker 3: because of how bad their defense is. And they basically 1447 01:12:35,640 --> 01:12:37,960 Speaker 3: if golf has an off day, they're dead. That's the 1448 01:12:38,000 --> 01:12:40,960 Speaker 3: honest truth. Like they, he is so dependent on right now. 1449 01:12:41,520 --> 01:12:44,519 Speaker 3: Obviously he's not an MVP discussion, but I mean he 1450 01:12:44,600 --> 01:12:46,600 Speaker 3: should be. The way he's carried this team down the 1451 01:12:46,600 --> 01:12:50,440 Speaker 3: stretch with all their injuries they've had, it's just been remarkable. 1452 01:12:50,520 --> 01:12:53,200 Speaker 3: So it's pain for him. It's pain for painful to 1453 01:12:53,280 --> 01:12:56,160 Speaker 3: do right now, Chad. But I do love the Vikings. 1454 01:12:56,200 --> 01:12:58,840 Speaker 3: I think it's very telling. The books are holding strong 1455 01:12:58,920 --> 01:13:01,080 Speaker 3: right now two and a half, So I'm not gonna 1456 01:13:01,120 --> 01:13:02,960 Speaker 3: rush to bed Vikings, cause I do think maybe we'll 1457 01:13:03,000 --> 01:13:04,639 Speaker 3: get back to a three with all this public lovel 1458 01:13:04,640 --> 01:13:09,519 Speaker 3: in Detroit. But man, it's in a normal year, a 1459 01:13:09,600 --> 01:13:11,959 Speaker 3: year where the books are right and laying good numbers 1460 01:13:12,040 --> 01:13:15,439 Speaker 3: and people doubt the dog, this would be one of 1461 01:13:15,439 --> 01:13:17,919 Speaker 3: my bigger bets. I love this spot so much for Minnesota. 1462 01:13:17,920 --> 01:13:20,920 Speaker 3: I just think offensively they're actually better to me in 1463 01:13:20,960 --> 01:13:21,519 Speaker 3: my opinion. 1464 01:13:21,720 --> 01:13:22,920 Speaker 2: I think defensively they. 1465 01:13:22,840 --> 01:13:25,000 Speaker 3: Still have the guys who are healthy enough to. 1466 01:13:25,000 --> 01:13:26,040 Speaker 2: Make game changing plays. 1467 01:13:26,040 --> 01:13:28,160 Speaker 3: For Detroit, they just don't have the piece of defensively 1468 01:13:28,200 --> 01:13:30,400 Speaker 3: to make the game changing plays like I know they 1469 01:13:30,400 --> 01:13:33,360 Speaker 3: have right now. It was other safety that's leading the 1470 01:13:33,400 --> 01:13:35,000 Speaker 3: league in interceptions. I forget who it is. 1471 01:13:35,080 --> 01:13:35,719 Speaker 1: Kirby Joseph. 1472 01:13:35,800 --> 01:13:39,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, incredible season. But it's like, I don't know, 1473 01:13:40,040 --> 01:13:42,479 Speaker 3: there's ways they can get around that on the Vikings team. 1474 01:13:42,560 --> 01:13:45,400 Speaker 3: So yeah, I can't believe it, but I do love 1475 01:13:45,400 --> 01:13:46,040 Speaker 3: this Vikings here. 1476 01:13:46,040 --> 01:13:48,439 Speaker 1: Plus two and a half, Well, you need miracles like 1477 01:13:48,520 --> 01:13:51,519 Speaker 1: Kirby Joseph last night with two picks against brock Perdity. 1478 01:13:51,840 --> 01:13:54,280 Speaker 1: Otherwise I don't know if they win that game. It's 1479 01:13:54,320 --> 01:13:58,720 Speaker 1: funny you mentioned we talked about that was one of 1480 01:13:58,760 --> 01:14:02,280 Speaker 1: our five picks, and in the middle of the game, 1481 01:14:02,640 --> 01:14:04,120 Speaker 1: and you said you thought it was a dead bet. 1482 01:14:04,120 --> 01:14:07,559 Speaker 1: We're one and four. I had kind of forgotten. I'd 1483 01:14:07,560 --> 01:14:10,320 Speaker 1: forgotten I bet the Lions minus three. I forgot we 1484 01:14:10,360 --> 01:14:13,519 Speaker 1: had a minus three half in the contest. Well, I 1485 01:14:13,600 --> 01:14:16,840 Speaker 1: was just I was actually just looking ahead and trying 1486 01:14:16,840 --> 01:14:19,200 Speaker 1: to see, all right, has the number moved on the 1487 01:14:19,280 --> 01:14:22,680 Speaker 1: Vikings yet? Because I was surprised with how badly the 1488 01:14:22,720 --> 01:14:29,040 Speaker 1: lines defense was playing, thinking about the number not moving 1489 01:14:29,800 --> 01:14:33,680 Speaker 1: because I was looking to sort of play the vikings 1490 01:14:34,600 --> 01:14:37,760 Speaker 1: before the number got out of control. It hasn't and 1491 01:14:37,800 --> 01:14:41,880 Speaker 1: it hasn't budged. No, And it's it's interesting to hear 1492 01:14:41,920 --> 01:14:46,800 Speaker 1: you talk about the vikings because rationally, you're right. Emotionally, 1493 01:14:47,560 --> 01:14:49,559 Speaker 1: I just want this Lion's team to win so bad. 1494 01:14:50,640 --> 01:14:54,479 Speaker 1: Even as a Bears fan. I love Dan Campbell, I 1495 01:14:54,560 --> 01:14:57,719 Speaker 1: love the story. I feel like with Ben Jonson, everyone 1496 01:14:57,840 --> 01:15:00,840 Speaker 1: knows he's gone. This is this is a great shot 1497 01:15:00,880 --> 01:15:03,880 Speaker 1: for them. I want them to get healthy. They deserve it. 1498 01:15:04,280 --> 01:15:05,880 Speaker 1: They deserve it for the way they pull See. 1499 01:15:05,920 --> 01:15:07,080 Speaker 3: This is probably my favorite team to watch. I do 1500 01:15:07,160 --> 01:15:08,880 Speaker 3: believe this is my favorite team to watch this season. 1501 01:15:08,920 --> 01:15:09,320 Speaker 2: Every game. 1502 01:15:09,439 --> 01:15:14,519 Speaker 1: Excite love this team, love their attitude. I want I 1503 01:15:14,560 --> 01:15:16,479 Speaker 1: don't know if I can bet this game because I 1504 01:15:16,520 --> 01:15:17,960 Speaker 1: want them to win so badly. 1505 01:15:18,040 --> 01:15:19,519 Speaker 2: I don't want to throw the vikings in a teaser 1506 01:15:19,520 --> 01:15:20,599 Speaker 2: then get up to eight and a half. 1507 01:15:20,640 --> 01:15:23,000 Speaker 1: That's a nice number, all right, I'm gonna do that, 1508 01:15:23,040 --> 01:15:25,200 Speaker 1: Like I can't. I just don't want to bet against. 1509 01:15:25,600 --> 01:15:27,560 Speaker 3: You can throw chargers in to win, outright, throw the 1510 01:15:27,640 --> 01:15:28,840 Speaker 3: Vikings in the cover eight and a half. 1511 01:15:28,840 --> 01:15:29,719 Speaker 2: That's a nice teezer. 1512 01:15:30,120 --> 01:15:34,759 Speaker 1: Okay, that's what I'll do. That's that makes me feel better. Campbell, 1513 01:15:34,760 --> 01:15:39,240 Speaker 1: by the way, sixty four against the spreads as a 1514 01:15:39,280 --> 01:15:42,760 Speaker 1: head coach. That is the best for any head coach 1515 01:15:42,800 --> 01:15:45,559 Speaker 1: with a minimum twenty games in the Super Bowl era. 1516 01:15:46,360 --> 01:15:48,600 Speaker 3: I listen, Man, just say that I'm proud of you. 1517 01:15:48,640 --> 01:15:52,360 Speaker 3: It would be a massive understatement composure to medication. 1518 01:15:52,960 --> 01:15:57,639 Speaker 1: And how's this? The Lions the past four years seventy 1519 01:15:57,680 --> 01:16:00,439 Speaker 1: percent against the spread. Don't forget Dan Campbell like a 1520 01:16:00,479 --> 01:16:02,720 Speaker 1: short stint as the Dolphins head coach. That's why his 1521 01:16:02,800 --> 01:16:05,720 Speaker 1: number isn't the same as the Lions. The best three 1522 01:16:05,880 --> 01:16:12,280 Speaker 1: year against the spread stretch since the sixteen to eighteen 1523 01:16:12,520 --> 01:16:16,320 Speaker 1: New England Patriots, and as of now, the best four 1524 01:16:16,479 --> 01:16:20,840 Speaker 1: year stretch for any team in the Super Bowl era. 1525 01:16:21,479 --> 01:16:23,559 Speaker 3: And correct me if I'm wrong, Evan, but I have 1526 01:16:23,640 --> 01:16:25,880 Speaker 3: this amazing memory of me and Chad Base We're all 1527 01:16:25,920 --> 01:16:28,000 Speaker 3: in on this Detroit team and might have been twenty 1528 01:16:28,040 --> 01:16:30,880 Speaker 3: twenty one. I was Man Campbell's first year and they're 1529 01:16:30,960 --> 01:16:33,559 Speaker 3: zero for nine playing Minnesota. We had them in our 1530 01:16:33,600 --> 01:16:36,200 Speaker 3: money line round robin. I believe it was fourth down, 1531 01:16:36,280 --> 01:16:38,880 Speaker 3: last play of the game. Jared Goff throws that touchdown 1532 01:16:38,880 --> 01:16:41,400 Speaker 3: against the Vikings to get their first win of the 1533 01:16:41,439 --> 01:16:44,840 Speaker 3: season for Detroit, And it's kind of full circle moment, 1534 01:16:44,920 --> 01:16:48,559 Speaker 3: like both these teams now three years later, fourteen and two. 1535 01:16:48,640 --> 01:16:52,040 Speaker 3: First time in history we've had two teams at fourteen 1536 01:16:52,080 --> 01:16:55,439 Speaker 3: and two playing for their division and the loser will 1537 01:16:55,479 --> 01:16:57,599 Speaker 3: be It's insane to think it'll be fourteen and three 1538 01:16:57,600 --> 01:17:01,200 Speaker 3: and be the fifth seed. It's just I love this 1539 01:17:01,280 --> 01:17:03,439 Speaker 3: matchup so much. This is this is truly a historical 1540 01:17:03,479 --> 01:17:05,840 Speaker 3: game we're seeing here, all right. 1541 01:17:05,840 --> 01:17:08,360 Speaker 1: Well, my exec decision on Seattle at minus three, since 1542 01:17:08,400 --> 01:17:10,839 Speaker 1: I had mentioned it because I move numbers and it's 1543 01:17:10,920 --> 01:17:13,920 Speaker 1: freakish how often it happens, is now up to four. 1544 01:17:15,680 --> 01:17:17,880 Speaker 3: Charlotte A sharp, Sharp Sharp. 1545 01:17:18,000 --> 01:17:21,800 Speaker 1: Chad Melman Sharp. As a reminder, The Favorite podcast is 1546 01:17:21,840 --> 01:17:24,200 Speaker 1: presented by Bet three sixty five and now new Bet 1547 01:17:24,200 --> 01:17:26,799 Speaker 1: three six five. Customers get one hundred and fifty dollars 1548 01:17:26,880 --> 01:17:29,960 Speaker 1: in bonus bets when you bet five dollars, sign up 1549 01:17:30,000 --> 01:17:32,680 Speaker 1: using promo code. 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