Speaker 1: Look mad oh, I see you. Why look over there?
Speaker 1: How is that culture? Yes? Goodness, the noms are in,
Speaker 1: the norms are in, and I mean we are really
Speaker 1: would you say, I feel like we're prioritizing this episode. Listen,
Speaker 1: let's just say something. Peek behind the curtain, dot org,
Speaker 1: dot biz. We actually are backlogging right now. Okay, but
Speaker 1: this episode put to the top of the heat because
Speaker 1: we have to discuss the numbs and we I mean, okay,
Speaker 1: I want to answer a little bit more. But we
Speaker 1: couldn't have had a better guest for this, the most
Speaker 1: highly anticipated guest and Lost Cultures I've when I look
Speaker 1: through the mentions and confession time, sometimes I just looked
Speaker 1: at them. I see what the girls are saying. Sometimes
Speaker 1: I even dangn to type into the search bar and
Speaker 1: Twitter the words lost culture just to see what they're
Speaker 1: sort of saying quotation marks, just to make sure that
Speaker 1: they were paired together and so what they're saying as
Speaker 1: they want our guests on the show, and I agree,
Speaker 1: But we're waiting for this ripe moment of in person
Speaker 1: and just in the throes of the nams which are out,
Speaker 1: and so this is the moment where we really get
Speaker 1: into it. But I want to say something, and I
Speaker 1: want to pose this question to you. Did we jinx
Speaker 1: it for Ruth and for Gaga? We may have no,
Speaker 1: but Gaga was that was the curse of Patricia. It
Speaker 1: was sort of akin to when the flies were sent
Speaker 1: to Gaga by Patricia. You know about this, of course,
Speaker 1: So Patrizia sent a cloud of flies to Gaga. Sort
Speaker 1: of a bad omen. I think that just really she
Speaker 1: flew too close to the sun on this one. Didn't
Speaker 1: get the numb. But I think that we sort of
Speaker 1: went so hard in on the last episode, being like,
Speaker 1: it's we gotta see her get the nam We want
Speaker 1: this media narrative because I personally we wanted more of her,
Speaker 1: not not I heard I got it. I don't. I
Speaker 1: did not check Twitter on the day, But it's seems
Speaker 1: like there was a lot of celebration around her getting snubbed.
Speaker 1: There was, and there was equal equal parts fury. Oh
Speaker 1: the fury was so funny, like people really being hyperbolic
Speaker 1: about a little monsters, mostly being like, this is the
Speaker 1: worst thing that's ever ever happened ever. And I'm actually
Speaker 1: on record as saying there's that. I think she's better
Speaker 1: in Gucci than she is in Stars Born, because I
Speaker 1: want to see her be insane. Yeah, but my but
Speaker 1: I also understand, sure best actress is crowded and she
Speaker 1: just got the bump. It's it's fine, it's fine. And um,
Speaker 1: have you heard this rumor that she's doing that. She's
Speaker 1: rumored to be doing the new Top Gun Maverick song
Speaker 1: like to take My Breath Away successor, And I feel like,
Speaker 1: take My breath By kind of like you wouldn't think
Speaker 1: it's like a matches with that movie, but I feel
Speaker 1: like she would write something so powerful. To take My
Speaker 1: Breath Away from Top Gun is one of the best
Speaker 1: movie songs I think, and I don't think. I don't
Speaker 1: think people would disagree because you know you think Top Gun,
Speaker 1: you don't think that. But the love scene, iconic love scene,
Speaker 1: the iconic love scene. God, do you think God has
Speaker 1: another shallow in her like such like a huge I
Speaker 1: never bet against her in terms of how much space
Speaker 1: she can take up and what she can do. I
Speaker 1: actually look, it's unpopular opinion, but if she had gotten nominated,
Speaker 1: I'd have been like, cool, I get it. Good for her, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I just said good for her. But there's there's that
Speaker 1: it didn't happen. Didn't happen, and so we're gonna move on.
Speaker 1: But first we're going to discuss really the first coffee
Speaker 1: and it's actually Ruler Culture number thirty three, but first coffee. UM,
Speaker 1: I really couldn't have a better guest to sort of
Speaker 1: go through the topical nature of the Oscar nominations and
Speaker 1: so much more. Um. This is truly, I mean, it's
Speaker 1: so funny that we have a pop culture podcast and
Speaker 1: I really have no business. We have no business really
Speaker 1: doing it. This is someone who has all the business
Speaker 1: in the world doing it. In fact, they actually got
Speaker 1: to win the award UM from I Heart Radio are
Speaker 1: very own, UM are very network for best pop Culture
Speaker 1: Podcast and Lost Coach Rees has actually went home on unrewarded,
Speaker 1: undecorated for Best Comedy. It's fine, they deserve to win.
Speaker 1: I think there were we were probably miscategorized in the
Speaker 1: first place. We're up, we're comedy podcasts. We're up against
Speaker 1: smartness and who else I would call us a comedy
Speaker 1: podcast before I call us a pop culture podcast. Here
Speaker 1: we are saying, like, you know, Lady Gaga deserves you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, The funniest fast than the layout. Well, so,
Speaker 1: he's a writer on Jimmy Kimmelive. You often see him
Speaker 1: on camera. He was text up this very recently and
Speaker 1: looking good, looking good. No one can say now we
Speaker 1: can say no and the co host of the Keep
Speaker 1: It Podcast award winning keep It Podcast winner of Best
Speaker 1: Pop Culture Podcasts from the I Heart Radio Podcast Rewards.
Speaker 1: Maybe one day, you know, one day will taste, will
Speaker 1: taste the flavor taste victory. I feel, Susan Lucci vibes
Speaker 1: my own and my own sort of wreck track record.
Speaker 1: Do you love that for us? No, give us award.
Speaker 1: I've been saying it, like give or us individually, give
Speaker 1: you you. You You will probably get anob soon. I feel like, okay,
Speaker 1: we'll cut that out. We'll get that. Don't truly like
Speaker 1: this is a moment in time. It's a moment for
Speaker 1: our readers. It's a moment for us to welcome the
Speaker 1: one and only. Let's welcome to your ears, Louis virtul
Speaker 1: Oh my god. The whole thing about awards snubbies YouTube
Speaker 1: fell in death death ears because I am an award winner.
Speaker 1: So't you can't relate and you do just it's a
Speaker 1: different frequency of speech. Like, did you literally did not
Speaker 1: hear it? Right? No, I was like looking out the window.
Speaker 1: It was really peaceful. I feel as though, well, really,
Speaker 1: I've already been snubbed for best Reality Competition host for
Speaker 1: the show everyone watched Hot Hot Dog. Um, so that
Speaker 1: is in your future. So it's like, let's keep track
Speaker 1: of that. And by the way, there are very few
Speaker 1: queer on a reason that category. I want to say, really,
Speaker 1: Eichner was the first. Maybe he was in game show
Speaker 1: host for the Street. Originally it changed categories a couple
Speaker 1: of times, but I remember realizing he was the first
Speaker 1: gay person to be and it's such a gay genre,
Speaker 1: and now RuPaul has kind of eaten them all up.
Speaker 1: At the time they're done with him, they'll never give
Speaker 1: it to another queer again, right, Yeah, so that'll be
Speaker 1: it for that No, because he's like the John larra
Speaker 1: Cette of that category. I just like, when my references
Speaker 1: are going to continue to be studying up to date.
Speaker 1: Someone said someone someone said when they found out Louis
Speaker 1: was coming on the podcast, they go, it's gonna be like,
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. Three Original Screenplay nominees come
Speaker 1: on the right stuff. I wonder if you would have one.
Speaker 1: I mean, this is I truly feel like I'm about
Speaker 1: to be schooled. I always feel like I learned something whenever,
Speaker 1: whenever I just I'm sponge around Lewis. Oh, that's incredibly bad.
Speaker 1: They are definitely smarter than I. Absolutely that I know him.
Speaker 1: It's okay, great, I think I really this is, this is,
Speaker 1: This is a wonderful moment for for for the reader,
Speaker 1: for us. Um, okay, well, what are your should just
Speaker 1: get in Twitter? Lewis, what is your sort of feedback?
Speaker 1: Your your SoundBite for for for the numbs? Well, okay,
Speaker 1: the Gaga snub to me feels like when Jennifer Aniston
Speaker 1: didn't get it for Ka, which is to say, there
Speaker 1: are so many people in the Academy. I'm sorry, Like
Speaker 1: I don't mean to be a shill for the Academy,
Speaker 1: but they're going to vote for the better performances. It
Speaker 1: kind of seemed like everyone thought that was one of them. Though, Yeah,
Speaker 1: because of all the precursors at that said, um, when
Speaker 1: you said she was better in that movie than she
Speaker 1: wasn't a Star is Born, I didn't hate that observation
Speaker 1: because in A Stars Born, the whole I think we
Speaker 1: gave it to her because she seemed so relaxed most
Speaker 1: of doing a Gaga stick and we were surprised by that.
Speaker 1: But that's not the same thing as being a brilliant
Speaker 1: actor really, and as I saw somebody on Twitter say,
Speaker 1: it sort of felt like they had trouble scraping together
Speaker 1: great takes of her, you know, because yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: for the just think you know, where Bradley Cooper is
Speaker 1: doing some hard acting and she's doing some reacting to him. Yes,
Speaker 1: which I mean I do think in like a in
Speaker 1: like a romantic drama duet as it were, like, is
Speaker 1: a lot. But I think I think, honestly you might
Speaker 1: be onto something with with a star is born. I
Speaker 1: think we were all surprised she could drop in at all,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, because she's so exists in
Speaker 1: this mcgreet surreal. What are we to initially describe as
Speaker 1: magreed surreal? I think it was the plot of and
Speaker 1: and just like that you said it was surreal, I said,
Speaker 1: it's it's mcgreed. Yeah, And so we were were describing
Speaker 1: all these things as agreed surreal. But like, because she's
Speaker 1: so on another planet screaming during like you know, her
Speaker 1: Vegas residency is whatever, and then you see her. Actually,
Speaker 1: I think she's one of those celebrities who I didn't
Speaker 1: know what she actually looked like for the first like
Speaker 1: seven years of her career, do you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: And so then to see her give like a dropped
Speaker 1: in relaxed performance and all access a part of her
Speaker 1: that we know. I think A Star is Born was
Speaker 1: the vehicle for her star. It was the perfect alignment
Speaker 1: of we had no idea she could. That's what it was,
Speaker 1: and then she was Yeah. And also you know, it
Speaker 1: also is tailored specifically to her gifts. I mean, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, She's going to perform shallow. And
Speaker 1: one thing I always say, like a rubric that I
Speaker 1: often say, which I think I've said to you both,
Speaker 1: is when it comes to the Oscars, what I am
Speaker 1: interested in is could anyone else have done it right
Speaker 1: like this? And I genuinely feel like with A Star
Speaker 1: is Born, maybe no one else could have done it
Speaker 1: like that. And for House of Gucci, think someone could
Speaker 1: have my yeah, I absolutely think yes. And something that's
Speaker 1: that's sort of dawning. Let me now, and I'm sure
Speaker 1: everyone's already thought of this, but it's like that movie
Speaker 1: is and the press tour that was super Smash Brothers.
Speaker 1: It was I mean, I mean it was all these
Speaker 1: people fighting for a different tone. But for her, I
Speaker 1: feel like that did not service her. UM bid for
Speaker 1: for for Award season because it was just such a
Speaker 1: chaotic movie and that you're she doesn't really hold the
Speaker 1: center because she's like not, she's missing from like the
Speaker 1: last third of it. You know. Yeah, it's weird to
Speaker 1: nominate her for lead for that reason. I will say
Speaker 1: I do think she's the best thing in the movie,
Speaker 1: which is crazy to say. I think I was talking
Speaker 1: about this on Keep It This Week again. I mean,
Speaker 1: like Jeremy Irons is maybe in my top three favorite actors,
Speaker 1: and ever sucks compared my my the part that And
Speaker 1: I really was laughing during House of Gucci because I
Speaker 1: don't think it's good, Like I think it's like a
Speaker 1: first draft, and the note of don't make it about
Speaker 1: the Gucci Empire, make it about her was just missed. Um.
Speaker 1: But when he and the accents of it all is
Speaker 1: a whole conversation dinner theater murder miss when they're sitting
Speaker 1: at lunch and he's talking in his like like Italian
Speaker 1: accent but really British. He goes, how do you say?
Speaker 1: And I'm like, okay, so what's the reality of it?
Speaker 1: Because if we're it' if we're Italian. Yeah, if we're
Speaker 1: Italian but we're speaking in an Italian accent for the
Speaker 1: for of for the audience, then you would not say
Speaker 1: how do you say? You were not searched for a word.
Speaker 1: It reminds me have you ever seen the movie Children
Speaker 1: of a Lesser God that Marley Matlin wants? Okay in
Speaker 1: the movie she it's actually there are really good parts.
Speaker 1: Obviously William Hurts a really good actor too, but whenever
Speaker 1: she does sign language, he says it for the camera
Speaker 1: and You're like, this completely takes it out, Like this
Speaker 1: is not reality at all. Oh, I understand what you're saying,
Speaker 1: and so does everyone watching. Yeah, like it's a rebus.
Speaker 1: He's solving for us. Do you say? And I was like, see,
Speaker 1: this is Jeremy Irons just trying to give it something.
Speaker 1: But ultimately, I guess there's a part of me that
Speaker 1: like just wants it all to be fun, and I
Speaker 1: think it is more fun with her, and then the
Speaker 1: part of me that's like, okay, let's actually nominate the
Speaker 1: best performances, Like it is thrilled to see Penelope CRUs there, yea,
Speaker 1: even Jessica Chastain, who I think we've a little been
Speaker 1: a little bit down on over the years. When you
Speaker 1: take movies called The Zookeeper's Wife, you don't want friends,
Speaker 1: you know. And so when she does a great job
Speaker 1: in this movie where she's you know, under like yards
Speaker 1: of makeup and she's still great, I really am like,
Speaker 1: all right, Jessica, Yeah, did you see didn't say? Guys,
Speaker 1: I just gotta be upfront this. I'm very illiterate this year.
Speaker 1: But and so this is also why I am like
Speaker 1: maybe a surrogate for the audience, for the reader at
Speaker 1: home who maybe has also has not seen many of
Speaker 1: the movies this season. You know, what's the thing is,
Speaker 1: It's like so many of the movies now are immediately
Speaker 1: available on Netflix and on Apple TVA plus with coda,
Speaker 1: so that it's like it's they're they're right there available
Speaker 1: and yet and it's it's that thing where it's like
Speaker 1: the buffet of options. It's like you you don't like, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like I enjoyed the thrill of seeing that that
Speaker 1: option is there and exactly, I did see the Eyes
Speaker 1: of Tammy Faye and I loved it. I loved it actually,
Speaker 1: and I it's a Wikipedia movie, but she nails that.
Speaker 1: She's she's just went, went, and you said this, it
Speaker 1: was like she really is. Actually, I think a lot
Speaker 1: more effective when she's able to like, when she's there's
Speaker 1: jokes for her to play and there's big choices for
Speaker 1: her to make. I liked her in Zero Dark thirty,
Speaker 1: but I never thought she would win that year against
Speaker 1: a bigger, you know, more lovable performance, I guess, but
Speaker 1: in this and I'm looking at the five nominees like
Speaker 1: and I don't, and she hasn't won much, and I
Speaker 1: think people were sort of surprised by the nomination despite
Speaker 1: the support that she's had all season long. I think
Speaker 1: if she were to walk away with the Oscar, I
Speaker 1: wouldn't be mad at that. I don't think anybody would
Speaker 1: know because also it's like a very traditional Best Actress
Speaker 1: when you know, not only is it a public figure,
Speaker 1: it's an iconic public like a hard look to pull off,
Speaker 1: a specific voice, a specific caricature esque person with the soul,
Speaker 1: you know, so it's not completely wacky there's something dropped
Speaker 1: in an emotional you know, so typical Baits stuff, which is, wow,
Speaker 1: this was a transformation, which I think is so overrated
Speaker 1: a lot of the time, especially you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Like we we fall for that so much, like when
Speaker 1: it's like with the Jared Letto of at All. My
Speaker 1: favorite quote unquote snub is him like I would have
Speaker 1: not been able to stomach that, which moments me. The
Speaker 1: one nomination that movie did get was Best Makeup, which
Speaker 1: I like because it made it harder to see the actics. Well,
Speaker 1: did you see the whole story? Um, apparently I think
Speaker 1: it's makeup and hair right, hair got nominated for hows
Speaker 1: a Gucci and the hair the hair that the head
Speaker 1: hair or whatever. Gaga's person and at Leascott apparently did
Speaker 1: not let him do anything and he had to fight
Speaker 1: to the nail for every single big swing in that movie.
Speaker 1: And like it's very sort of vindicating that he's one
Speaker 1: of the only people who got nominated for the film
Speaker 1: for someone who's like fully like obstructed like at every turn,
Speaker 1: but who is the favorite to win Best Actress this year.
Speaker 1: Then it is weird. Olivia is People also hate that
Speaker 1: movie on Twitter and everybody being like, you know, when
Speaker 1: I was four, Lucy is the one who put me
Speaker 1: to bed every night, scary big eyebrows or something. You know,
Speaker 1: people are fucking babies. I would I would say, having
Speaker 1: seen both Nicole and Olivia and Jessica, actually have I
Speaker 1: seen everything? Yeah, yes, And so I mean personally for me,
Speaker 1: I think it could go anyway. I think we might
Speaker 1: see Olivia win again. I will also it's I think
Speaker 1: people who love that movie value that it's not just
Speaker 1: a difficult role. It says something about motherhood that movies
Speaker 1: usually don't say. The only problem with that movie is
Speaker 1: it doesn't end on a note that's like satisfyingly crazy
Speaker 1: for what the movie is doing. It feels a little soft,
Speaker 1: so you can even forget some of the buld choices
Speaker 1: the movie makes you because and in the book, she
Speaker 1: it's more it's a little bit less ambiguous that she's died.
Speaker 1: Maybe she's in the hospital at the end of the
Speaker 1: boy right, it's more. I think it's more ambiguous in
Speaker 1: the film that yes, yes, you're right, you're right, you're right.
Speaker 1: And you know what's an interesting thing is it's like
Speaker 1: always remember I always my poll from that movie, Like
Speaker 1: what I walk away thinking about is not Dakota Dakoda,
Speaker 1: Like that's the supporting before. And I remember I was
Speaker 1: watching it and I texted our friends and I was like,
Speaker 1: I don't get this Dakota performance. Like I was just
Speaker 1: like it was like the first scene happening that you
Speaker 1: meant the um No, I mean the Dakota. I mean
Speaker 1: like that first scene where so in the movie, if
Speaker 1: you haven't seen it, it's you know, Dakota's daughter. Dakota
Speaker 1: is like this hot girl on the beach and like
Speaker 1: Olivia sort of eyeing her like decos with her whole family.
Speaker 1: Olivia's alone, so she's sort of like seeing her like
Speaker 1: exist and she's this hot young mom on the beach
Speaker 1: and she loses her daughter. Olivia finds the daughter brings
Speaker 1: her back, and there's this scene where Dakota is thanking
Speaker 1: Olivia for bringing her daughter back, and it's this bizarre
Speaker 1: in the store by Olivia's chair, and Dakota comes over
Speaker 1: and she's sort of like I just want to say thanks,
Speaker 1: and I really like your beating suit and like and
Speaker 1: it's like a little bit psycho sexual and I'm not
Speaker 1: sure what it is. And then when the movie ended,
Speaker 1: and you see like her mood swing in the final
Speaker 1: scene where she spoiler alert skip fifteen seconds, spoiler alert
Speaker 1: skip fifteen seconds, spoiler alert skip fifteen seconds fucking stabs
Speaker 1: her that she is truly like, that's part of it.
Speaker 1: That's sort of like irrational, sort of I don't know,
Speaker 1: like chemically imbalanced performance that she was giving is actually
Speaker 1: quite specific and something I walk away thinking about, whereas
Speaker 1: Jesse Buckley maybe this is a testament interacting because she
Speaker 1: is so dropped in and makes it look so easy.
Speaker 1: I just didn't walk away thinking of her and therefore
Speaker 1: would never have voted for her, and yet don't like
Speaker 1: that part of the movie. Really, I just don't think
Speaker 1: the movie needs backstory to explain Olivia. That was the
Speaker 1: That was the least like feminist choice of the storytelling
Speaker 1: to me. It's just like I just want to experience
Speaker 1: Olivia and her like weirdness and her approaching people and
Speaker 1: being suddenly hyper sex shull and like getting an Ed
Speaker 1: Harris's ear, which we've all done. They're related to that. Yes,
Speaker 1: every scene should have been her watching this a movie
Speaker 1: and young at teenagers so good, Oh my god, because
Speaker 1: it's like and then maybe this has something about where
Speaker 1: where we all are in life. It's like, now I
Speaker 1: identify with fucking upset about people being loud and not
Speaker 1: the young people having fun. I'm like, I'm with her.
Speaker 1: I'm with her, especially because nobody else in the theater
Speaker 1: is reacting, which is extra infurio. You have to react
Speaker 1: on their behalf to like you're helping them, but they
Speaker 1: don't want to be helped. Yes, yeah, then see you
Speaker 1: know what the Maggie Jill Maggie Jiel Maggie Joel n
Speaker 1: I might have to stand. Yeah. I've been enjoying her
Speaker 1: uh like interviews with VF on YouTube about this. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and also I've recently become obsessed with her architectural digest
Speaker 1: tour with Peter Star's Guard where they have a crazy
Speaker 1: gigantic brownstone in New York And I said this on Twitter.
Speaker 1: There's like they enter a room and there's just three
Speaker 1: colonial tables and they say, well, here's where the kids play.
Speaker 1: It's like, what planet are we on? What did they do?
Speaker 1: They're so funny that the just like negotiate their home
Speaker 1: and like be like, well they want to see it, it
Speaker 1: it must be amazing and like to talk about their
Speaker 1: taste as if it's like, yeah, I had this my thing.
Speaker 1: My favorite one that we talked about this is Vanessa Hudgins.
Speaker 1: Something happens in that, Okay, Vanessa Hudgins. I'm sure she's
Speaker 1: a lovely girl. She says, she's like, I have these
Speaker 1: classic French love stories on the shelf. First of all
Speaker 1: the classics stories, they are the newest possible editions like
Speaker 1: that you would buy it like urban outfits. And it's
Speaker 1: like it's like Madam Bovary. She just like she saw words,
Speaker 1: she saw Madam and she said, that's that's it. That's friends.
Speaker 1: That from my house. The only person I think who
Speaker 1: has a relatively relatable a D video is maybe Kirston
Speaker 1: because she's she's kind of standing there with her interior
Speaker 1: designer and they're just being like yeah, you know, like
Speaker 1: it's just it's just her like having a conversation and
Speaker 1: she has a great taste, which, by the way, great
Speaker 1: down to earth choice, having the design there and nowhere
Speaker 1: this oak tree I turned into a fireplace or whatever. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: so transitioning here okay, which which also so her V
Speaker 1: video of her career timeline I've watched I watched like
Speaker 1: twenty times at this point, I'm like, there's the way
Speaker 1: that hearing her talk about her work is so captivating
Speaker 1: to me. I'm like, it's a it's a full she's
Speaker 1: a mesmer. I'm like, I can just watch you just
Speaker 1: talk about how you do like dream. I've talked about
Speaker 1: the pot the dream work that she talked about. We're
Speaker 1: started fascinated by because it's really interesting like that she
Speaker 1: would and yet I completely believe that she, no matter
Speaker 1: what it was, might inform her work that way on
Speaker 1: the day because she is so and this is something
Speaker 1: I say a lot, but she's so specific in grounded
Speaker 1: and never puts herself before the film in a way
Speaker 1: where I'm like, Power of the Dog actually is the
Speaker 1: perfect first nomination for her because it is a great
Speaker 1: encapsulation of her understanding tone of her because and honestly,
Speaker 1: while she is a movie star well I'm sure she's
Speaker 1: been number one on dozens and dozens of call sheets,
Speaker 1: there is something to say about how she supports the
Speaker 1: film she's in. And I don't think the Power of
Speaker 1: the Dog works unless you have that performance be exactly
Speaker 1: what it is not not to say that another actress
Speaker 1: couldn't do it. But but Power of the Dog, and
Speaker 1: I've said this before, is about her anxiety and it
Speaker 1: is about a battle for her life, and so you
Speaker 1: have to in those final minutes of the movie believe
Speaker 1: that either Cody Smith McPhee or Bennett Cumberback is gonna
Speaker 1: like triumph in this household. And you only care as
Speaker 1: much if you are really believing the build that is
Speaker 1: her anxiety and her break at that last scene where
Speaker 1: she's collapsing, and I'm just like so and it really
Speaker 1: is so dude to Jane Campion as well, But it's
Speaker 1: such a genius performance and it's not showy. But I
Speaker 1: wish more performances like this would went on in the
Speaker 1: way that I think The Lost Daughter ends on a
Speaker 1: note that makes you forget what you saw. The end
Speaker 1: of Power of the Dog makes you think her character
Speaker 1: was basically a red herring because it's ultimately all about
Speaker 1: what Cody has done, so you forget, like you just
Speaker 1: think of her as drunk, right. But then but then
Speaker 1: it doesn't end on like her and Jesse Plemons walking
Speaker 1: back from the from the funeral, from the service, and
Speaker 1: it's Cody just kind of like check like looking from
Speaker 1: his room and just like seeing that she's okay, curtively
Speaker 1: and just being like okay, like she's I've protected her
Speaker 1: well because the movie begins with that with that voice,
Speaker 1: So him being like, it's my job to protect my mother.
Speaker 1: What kind of some would I be if I did
Speaker 1: not do that? Um? This goes back to there's a
Speaker 1: lot of time I bring up the dreamwork. Um. She
Speaker 1: says that she loves that because there's no way that
Speaker 1: she doesn't feel confident about enacting choice about an acting
Speaker 1: choice if it's informed by her subconscious, which means she's
Speaker 1: pretty in touch with her instruments, you know. And by
Speaker 1: the way, in an unpretentious way, like what you're talking
Speaker 1: about this video where she talks about her career and
Speaker 1: like the choices she made in what roles were difficult, etcetera.
Speaker 1: It's what Gaga wishes she could convey, you know, like
Speaker 1: I'm I'm good at this job. I have methods that
Speaker 1: I pull from and I deliver something great. Lady Gaga
Speaker 1: wants to tell us she's doing that, but to hear
Speaker 1: Kris Kristen do it successfully is very reassuring because you
Speaker 1: kind of, while listening to Gaga think oh, maybe all
Speaker 1: actors are secretly a little full of ship like, but no,
Speaker 1: she's not. She's not. She's not, she's not. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: comes from a real place that you can tell us something.
Speaker 1: And I also think another thing about Kirsten Dunstay is
Speaker 1: we don't really super no too much about her as
Speaker 1: a person. We know about her through her work and
Speaker 1: she's given so many different kinds of versatile performances. But
Speaker 1: there was a moment there a few years ago where
Speaker 1: she definitely had a hard moment. Let's pre Allen Collie.
Speaker 1: She checked into rehab after Spider Man three. She's who
Speaker 1: I associate with Parrels Hilton dot com because she was
Speaker 1: I actually, unfortunately defend certain things about Pearrels Hilton in reuch. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean it was in the moment in that time,
Speaker 1: it was what like it touched on something that we
Speaker 1: all like really responded to. I just feel like the
Speaker 1: way we covered celebrities changed forever after that, and I
Speaker 1: think we were needing something that was less stale. Again,
Speaker 1: I think someone like Juliana Ransick does hard work. I
Speaker 1: think it's hard to be on a red carpet and
Speaker 1: say something novel about everybody it's super boring to see
Speaker 1: someone who has the same quote unquote enthusiastic take about
Speaker 1: every celebrity. So I have somebody who covered daily news
Speaker 1: and be like, this person is full of ship, and
Speaker 1: then also on the contrary, be like, pay more attention
Speaker 1: to Madonna's choices, you know, Madonna like whatever, like picking
Speaker 1: favorites and being super adamant about it and informed about it.
Speaker 1: That wasn't always in entertainment media. My thing about Kirsten too,
Speaker 1: is it is about like it's like you're saying with Gaga,
Speaker 1: Gaga is letting us know about all the work this is.
Speaker 1: And I think it's one of the reasons why we're
Speaker 1: so transfixed, so sort of like invested in this new
Speaker 1: thing she's rebut because you don't hear about her process,
Speaker 1: you know. And I'm so I've sort of been doing
Speaker 1: like a kirston a thon um in these last few
Speaker 1: weeks because I'm loving this moment. And we did say
Speaker 1: on this podcast, I think it was like a year ago,
Speaker 1: it's like kirston kirst thinking we started beating the drum,
Speaker 1: not to say we're we're doing the credit, but like
Speaker 1: I think as a maybe it's even as a gay community.
Speaker 1: It's like it's like it's been it's been bubbling under.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't happened, he would have loved performance. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: you're so you don't think she should win for Power
Speaker 1: of the Dog. I'm on the fence. It's a weird
Speaker 1: category for me because again it's like, I don't even
Speaker 1: really know what I think of Jesse Buckley. I have
Speaker 1: to go and see the movie again. Basically, what's the
Speaker 1: weirdest choice to me is Judy Dench in there, who
Speaker 1: has an extremely small part in Belfest, though she is
Speaker 1: quote unquote the heart of the movie, so I kind
Speaker 1: of get it, but to vote for her over Katrina
Speaker 1: and that movie who has the significant emotional moment with
Speaker 1: the stakes feels I'm sorry mean. And also it's like negligent.
Speaker 1: It's like, what do you mean, Like they clearly saw
Speaker 1: the movie. I was wondering if they didn't see the
Speaker 1: movie and they just thought, oh, well, Judy Dench plays Granny,
Speaker 1: so we've got to vote for her. That not by
Speaker 1: the way, I love Judy way, I'm not going to
Speaker 1: call her underrated, but people just assume she gives a
Speaker 1: certain performance again and again, and it's like she's been
Speaker 1: solid for so long that you kind of just know
Speaker 1: it's like scandal. You could argue that no, right, the
Speaker 1: crazy choices she makes and they just all seem normal,
Speaker 1: because she's the most dropped in actor ever, you know,
Speaker 1: dropped in by the way, a phrase I have totally
Speaker 1: stolen from you and has infected my brain because I
Speaker 1: have to remind myself all the time to be it exactly.
Speaker 1: It's a linguistic thing where it's like if you can
Speaker 1: name it, then you sort of live with it more.
Speaker 1: But um, I heard that you are very upset about
Speaker 1: with Mega. That's I mean, like like any reasonable fag,
Speaker 1: you know. But I said, that performance and this is
Speaker 1: of course the highest compliment I can give, belongs in
Speaker 1: the movie Carol, and that it's like it's about poise
Speaker 1: and it's about um sort of like the chemistry that
Speaker 1: comes with like sophistication, and yet there's also a tragic
Speaker 1: artifice there and you can see the cracks and but
Speaker 1: she's not playing the cracks like you have to search
Speaker 1: for them initially. And I just thought that was clearly
Speaker 1: the performance of the year, and everybody who watches that
Speaker 1: movie seemingly is like of course she's amazing, my Cara
Speaker 1: who is that? It is startling and honestly, like I
Speaker 1: didn't actually even though she's an Oscar nominee for Loving Um,
Speaker 1: which as a nomination I didn't know, you Revile, I
Speaker 1: hate that nomination. Yeah, And so it's just like, so
Speaker 1: I thought it was a slam dunk because I was like,
Speaker 1: if they nominated it for that, they'll certainly nominated her
Speaker 1: for this in a in a category where it felt
Speaker 1: like there were only a few sure things um her
Speaker 1: actually being one of them after all these precursors, and
Speaker 1: then when they didn't, it felt like, oh maybe they
Speaker 1: just and they did completely miss this movie. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Well it seems like this was this season in the
Speaker 1: year where precursors meant nothing, and I think they mean more, nothing,
Speaker 1: more and more, which I'm happy about. I'm sick of
Speaker 1: the like deluge of we already know what's going to
Speaker 1: happen weeks and weeks before the Oscars, like let's check
Speaker 1: gold Derby and see like where the needle is moved
Speaker 1: and like where like does it ever meaningfully I don't know,
Speaker 1: like predict these things. I don't know. Yeah, these things
Speaker 1: that they used to say meant everything. Don't anymore like
Speaker 1: they used to say, like when when a movie gets
Speaker 1: nominated for editing, it's certainly getting nominated for Best Picture,
Speaker 1: and it's like a precursor. And then I saw Tech
Speaker 1: Tech Boom get nominated for editing, and I'm like, well,
Speaker 1: certainly in a year where there's ten nominees and a
Speaker 1: leading actor contender, will a Ti Ti Boom in Best Picture?
Speaker 1: Which I would have loved. I love tick tick Boom.
Speaker 1: I thought it was really good and then it wasn't
Speaker 1: and I was just like, nothing means anything? Like what
Speaker 1: what about necessarily the editing of Tick tick Boom? Are
Speaker 1: you like, well, that's okay. You're a person to imagine
Speaker 1: there's a ballot in front of you. Do you need
Speaker 1: to vote for Best Pictures because something got an editing nomination? No?
Speaker 1: What are you talking? Like? What magical race of people
Speaker 1: are you talking about? Who votes that way? It's like
Speaker 1: the thing do you see Dune? I did not see done.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you do know out of it. This is
Speaker 1: a lot going for it. But it's half a movie.
Speaker 1: It's half a movie laterally, and and so whatever. But like, certainly,
Speaker 1: if you're going to list the top five nominations it's
Speaker 1: getting certainly one is direction of Direction. I don't know
Speaker 1: why it wasn't there. It's just so interesting the way
Speaker 1: these things shake out. Sometimes there is a magical race
Speaker 1: of people, and it's people who have the Academy Showroom
Speaker 1: app on the Apple TV. Yes, my friends, you know,
Speaker 1: I learned about it. I learned about it through Jordan's
Speaker 1: and then I was and then I was at work
Speaker 1: with someone who is on the Academy and he was like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: I watched it on that and I was like, he's like,
Speaker 1: I watched Drive my Car on the on the Academy.
Speaker 1: I was like, you people are how dare you? How
Speaker 1: dare you like fucking way this in front of our face?
Speaker 1: And you know, all those people have good TVs, great TVs, theaters.
Speaker 1: Even even I just I just want to that's not
Speaker 1: a password thing, is it? Like I'm sure there's like
Speaker 1: four different authentication process you just gotta be or no,
Speaker 1: someone in the Academy. No. But I'm saying even if
Speaker 1: you just it's not like an HBO like go password
Speaker 1: thing where it's like I think you I think they
Speaker 1: probably authenticate you like four times over to make sure that,
Speaker 1: like it's just showing up. It's like Alias. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like alias, I'm certain that I'm this is ruined
Speaker 1: my media consumption, Like I I feel like I need
Speaker 1: that or else they won't be happy. I don't know.
Speaker 1: And it's so satisfying to scroll through. It's like, wow,
Speaker 1: they're all here. They're all here. Don't have to go
Speaker 1: through the mania of what's available where, or I'll go
Speaker 1: to this weird movie theater where like the popcorn is petrified.
Speaker 1: You know. I will say when I was when I
Speaker 1: was in New York, um and I had to cancel
Speaker 1: all my shows and like it was it was, Oh,
Speaker 1: Macron was the new Beast. I was the only person
Speaker 1: at Angelica and I saw like four of them like
Speaker 1: right in a row because they have loved that. That's
Speaker 1: my favorite time of year. Yeah, it really is fun.
Speaker 1: And I always go by myself, like in Zone and
Speaker 1: that's how I saw being the Ricardo's Liquorice pizza a
Speaker 1: red rocket, which we loved, loved, I mean, did didn't
Speaker 1: get any love right well, he was. I just think
Speaker 1: it's a thing of people not seeing it. But then
Speaker 1: again with the Academy app is that an excuse, and
Speaker 1: also he lost a five huge stars with like sterling reputations,
Speaker 1: so that's actor's wild. I think that if I had
Speaker 1: a gun to my head and I for SAG, I
Speaker 1: do have the gun to my head. I think I'm
Speaker 1: gonna vote for King Richard for ensemble and vote for
Speaker 1: Andrew Garfield for actor. I feel good about that. I
Speaker 1: feel like his main compety Titian in best act. I
Speaker 1: guess people still think Will Smith's gonna take it. I don't.
Speaker 1: I feel like people aren't talking about that performance in
Speaker 1: regards to that movie. Even I feel like people are
Speaker 1: more into Anganu Ellis, who has an extremely small part.
Speaker 1: Have you seen King Richard? Okay, you gotta you know
Speaker 1: it's good. I mean like it's a sports film and
Speaker 1: you would think it would put you to sleep right
Speaker 1: away because you know what's coming, right, But it's not.
Speaker 1: There's something about it that feels very organic to what
Speaker 1: that story was, that is well expressed, and the girls
Speaker 1: are great. Right by the way, there's an interview with
Speaker 1: one of those girls, the girl who plays Venus, her
Speaker 1: name is I think yes, her talking about oh yeah,
Speaker 1: I learned how to hit the ball with my wrist
Speaker 1: broken because she hits it with her wrist broken. I
Speaker 1: was like, what you're like, I think she's a righty
Speaker 1: and Venus is a lefty or something like that. She
Speaker 1: she did learn to do it with her other hands.
Speaker 1: That's pretty cool and it's crazy. And there's a moment
Speaker 1: in King Richard where she realizes that she's won something,
Speaker 1: or she she realizes something is happening and she goes
Speaker 1: to the mirror, looks at herself in the mirror and
Speaker 1: like has a celebration. And I'm like, that young actor
Speaker 1: is someone to watch. And there's a moment later because
Speaker 1: a lot of them the movie is based on Venus's rise,
Speaker 1: and so Serena, who as we all know, went on
Speaker 1: to become the greatest player ever. Like, there's a moment
Speaker 1: where the actress playing Serena sort of sitting there standing
Speaker 1: at the court and Will Smith goes over to her.
Speaker 1: I I think this is the best original screenplay of
Speaker 1: the year. I I do. And so he goes over
Speaker 1: to her and says, I know that this is hard
Speaker 1: because this is all about Venus. But and Will Smith
Speaker 1: is really good in this scene. Oh I'm gonna cry.
Speaker 1: He was like, you're gonna be the best of all,
Speaker 1: which feels a little convenient even though I'm sure, but
Speaker 1: but it's like to put that in the screenplay where
Speaker 1: it's like and also you will win this many ways.
Speaker 1: You know, it's it's a father talking to his daughter
Speaker 1: who he knows is hurting, and I think that there
Speaker 1: is room for that. Remember the Titans moment, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, Like in movies like, I get it,
Speaker 1: I get being like when something is saccharin being like,
Speaker 1: but it really works. It's a it's a really good scene.
Speaker 1: But also in regards to that actress watching her talk,
Speaker 1: I mean, the performance is really good. It's not drawing
Speaker 1: too much attention to itself. Obviously the story is like
Speaker 1: sort of about the girls, you know ultimately, but her
Speaker 1: in this interview it was like that Ian Armitage thing
Speaker 1: where it's like your years old. Yeah, I guarantee you're
Speaker 1: older than I am. Yeah. Yeah, that's a whole other vibe. Um,
Speaker 1: Javier is best actor. Interesting. It is interesting because you
Speaker 1: know it's weird. Is it's like, sorry I did not
Speaker 1: to totally, but we're can talk about like it's. Um,
Speaker 1: it's weird because you think Nicole and then you do
Speaker 1: see it and like he is imagined him being bad.
Speaker 1: I mean, I've see people sort of down on this performance.
Speaker 1: I thought it was great. And again, I definitely have
Speaker 1: seen every episode of I Love Lucy. The one to
Speaker 1: one physical parallels don't mean anything to me. In fact,
Speaker 1: I've enjoyed seeing interviews with Lucy Arnaz, Lucy Ball's daughter
Speaker 1: who has this like crack or jack memory. It's like
Speaker 1: cool to watch interviews with her being like, I'm so
Speaker 1: glad they didn't go for the physical transformation. She's like,
Speaker 1: it's so much better this way, which I agree. I agree.
Speaker 1: It's like it's like the it's the other side of
Speaker 1: the coin for the for the Tammy faith thing where
Speaker 1: it's like it didn't I mean, I I too have
Speaker 1: seen all these tweets and posts where it's like Nicole
Speaker 1: didn't have anything behind the eyes and all this stuff,
Speaker 1: and it's like Lucy was so like just expressive from
Speaker 1: like behind the face and all this stuff. And I'm like,
Speaker 1: I still I still enjoyed. But on my thing with
Speaker 1: Heavy Years, didn't he say in an interview after the
Speaker 1: nomins came out where he was like, I would not
Speaker 1: have like that movie. Is Nicole's like if it weren't
Speaker 1: from Nicole, and that role would be nothing, which which
Speaker 1: I appreciate that he can just sort of like be
Speaker 1: very trans like he can, that he's brave enough to
Speaker 1: say that. Yeah. I also want to say, in regards
Speaker 1: to what you were just saying about people being upset
Speaker 1: with Nicole, I would have loved to hear this conversation
Speaker 1: about Tom Hanks being nominated from Mr. Rogers where he
Speaker 1: did not seem like him at all and no one
Speaker 1: cares a feminate quality and he did not that at all,
Speaker 1: And I think people like that. I think there's always
Speaker 1: going to be more scrutiny on women being cast the
Speaker 1: same way. More people care about best actress than best actor,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It's just like I remember
Speaker 1: we I don't know how you felt like, but we
Speaker 1: were both very skeptical about Nicole being Lucy because it
Speaker 1: was originally Capel and chet right right, which and obviously
Speaker 1: that's like my one, your dream. I don't even think
Speaker 1: we would be talking about who would win. No, I
Speaker 1: think you would be done. But then you two have
Speaker 1: also both said that despite you know, I think Nicole
Speaker 1: had such an uphill battle that it's it's kind of
Speaker 1: triumphant to see it. Like, I just never bet against
Speaker 1: her because when is has she hasn't Nicole Kidman ever
Speaker 1: been bad? That's a good question. Uh not. Nothing really
Speaker 1: comes to mind other than like bad movies like Bewitched.
Speaker 1: Did we love that? I enjoyed it. I think she
Speaker 1: was like I think I was like good for her,
Speaker 1: you know, that was like but that was in her
Speaker 1: true like Imperial phase one point though, right, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean? That was like I I was excited
Speaker 1: to see Christian schenn with in a movie. Oh yes, right, yes,
Speaker 1: which is which is illegal for a number of years. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well then she did The Boy next Door and now
Speaker 1: it's illegal again. Oh my god that role. Wait she'
Speaker 1: The Boy next Door, which right after she is viciously insulted.
Speaker 1: It's a thing where like a character doesn't deserve it
Speaker 1: but gets it really bad. It's like she's found dead
Speaker 1: in the closet, like, oh my god. There's then we
Speaker 1: put that guy in um everybody wants some where. He
Speaker 1: wears a jacks Wolf he's so hot. No, no guess
Speaker 1: what his name is but something Ryan Guzman, Okay, first
Speaker 1: edition for me? No, you shouldn't have. Whenever I said
Speaker 1: you shouldn't have, ill do you laugh? And I don't
Speaker 1: think we've ever gotten into a bigger fight than when
Speaker 1: over Jennifer Lopez and Laura during year. She's amazing and
Speaker 1: I came out of hustle has been like definitely Jennifer
Speaker 1: Lopes's best performance, and I am upset that she didn't
Speaker 1: get the nomination. You are hard, Laura, Yes, generally yeah, uh,
Speaker 1: which I don't want to say that's basic of I
Speaker 1: don't know, I don't know. I was anst to you
Speaker 1: about it because I felt like she then became like underestimated.
Speaker 1: People like, oh, it was a broad performance whatever. It's
Speaker 1: like that part of the movie wouldn't work if she
Speaker 1: weren't a little fucking weird. Exactly exactly, Laura Dern liking
Speaker 1: Laura when what? What? When did that happen? You know?
Speaker 1: This is I think it was big little saying liking
Speaker 1: Laura Dern becoming synonymous with basics. This is a thing
Speaker 1: because there was a moment where Laura Dern was like
Speaker 1: it felt like finally we're talking about Laura Dern in
Speaker 1: this way. And then in a instance literally okay, RuPaul
Speaker 1: hosted SNL me Sudie and Frank Llspie wrote a sketch
Speaker 1: called gay Oscars and it was me and Rue host
Speaker 1: and then was like and of course it was basically
Speaker 1: what that Jordan's Firstman piece ended up being. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: where it was like Laura and Laura was nominating every
Speaker 1: single category best hair was like we thought so at
Speaker 1: the time until and this is not this is not
Speaker 1: us like knocking like the like Jordan's thing, but it
Speaker 1: was just like, oh, whoa, this is so weird, Like
Speaker 1: the parallel thinking on Laura Dern is really synchronized in
Speaker 1: such a specific way right now. And then after that
Speaker 1: that was the inflection point. Maybe not that specific thing,
Speaker 1: but like shortly after now it's like we talked about
Speaker 1: Laura Dern and it's like, oh god, whatever, It's like
Speaker 1: I think it's even a joke. In the second to
Speaker 1: the other two, like Laura Dern like Day's liking Laura
Speaker 1: Dern became monoculture like the Titanic. Yes, it's like it's
Speaker 1: like everyone in America knows pej Yeah. And but I
Speaker 1: will say I think it calmed down enough to where
Speaker 1: I could see here on the Jurassic World Dominion trailer,
Speaker 1: I'd be excited. Yeah, no, correct, but no, it's just
Speaker 1: that thing that happened to Jennifer Coolidge too, And I
Speaker 1: feel like somebody else in Tony Collette a little bit
Speaker 1: when people like congratulate themselves for having quote unquote done
Speaker 1: the homework over the years, Like I remember her from
Speaker 1: two movies. I've always liked, yes, yes, not just which
Speaker 1: we do. We do all the time on our respective constantly,
Speaker 1: us more than you guys probably, but like this is
Speaker 1: us being like Kirsten done, so we deserve the crime.
Speaker 1: We're not saying that, but it's like we've been doing,
Speaker 1: we've been We're probably just like echoing something that like
Speaker 1: a lot of people, I don't know, I don't know,
Speaker 1: but there needs to be that conversation all these things
Speaker 1: to happen. And so like I think in a way,
Speaker 1: I'm not mad at it, just yes, yes, yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: because it's it gets done. And of course in this
Speaker 1: in this culture, you don't want to be the sixth
Speaker 1: person to say something. I just think we have this
Speaker 1: gay people might have this post coital m postnut guilt
Speaker 1: shame around like a shared thought. Oh well, a bunch
Speaker 1: of people think the same way I do about this thing,
Speaker 1: and so therefore it must be a bad thought. But
Speaker 1: I mean, but meanwhile, it's like it's like the on this,
Speaker 1: I do know exactly what you mean, and I feel
Speaker 1: this way as well. But also it's like, objectively is
Speaker 1: fucking incredible, you know what I mean? Like objectively, like
Speaker 1: I said thank you, and like I will not not
Speaker 1: be rich. And I don't think she wins the Oscar
Speaker 1: for Marriage Story without that performance. I think it's akin
Speaker 1: to Katherine Heigel doing what she did in the finale
Speaker 1: of season two of Gray's Anatomy and then getting knocked up,
Speaker 1: which is why she wins for season three of Gray's Anatomy.
Speaker 1: I think it just feels at a certain point like
Speaker 1: it's time, and I wish that they're felt like there
Speaker 1: was that immediacy around Kirston this year, because it feels
Speaker 1: like what's going to happen is Ariana Debos is going
Speaker 1: to win, who I think is phenomenal in the movie.
Speaker 1: But I don't need her to have an oscar right,
Speaker 1: right right, And in fact, it almost might be better
Speaker 1: if she didn't win an Oscar, so that there was
Speaker 1: some suspense about where her next move would take Um,
Speaker 1: I just want to wrap up that conversation about Laura
Speaker 1: during the thing that is annoying about it is the
Speaker 1: people who tweet. Uh. Certain people who tweet about her
Speaker 1: pretend like they aren't privy to the conversations, like they
Speaker 1: just came up with that. I don't know what it
Speaker 1: is about Laura Dern, but I just love you. Don't
Speaker 1: say I've read that fifty fucking times. You know you're
Speaker 1: pretending not to be a part of the conversation while
Speaker 1: starting a conversation. Yes, yes, I'm angry it Rose, I
Speaker 1: will say, how do you feel? If you're right? My
Speaker 1: favorite topic on this podcast is, of course Bryce styles
Speaker 1: Howard and how do you feel? Yeah? My thing with
Speaker 1: y U, My my thing with Bryce Dallas is you
Speaker 1: would never be like first, first choice, like we're going
Speaker 1: Bryce Dallas. But when she's there, I always have She's
Speaker 1: making a choice, She's always going for it. How do
Speaker 1: you feel if you're Bryce Dallas Howard and you're like cool,
Speaker 1: gearing up for the third one and they're like, we're
Speaker 1: bringing back Laura Dern. Do you think you're excited or
Speaker 1: you're like, God, damn it, I'm not the iconic one
Speaker 1: here well, and the trailer it seems like there were
Speaker 1: there were a lot of scenes where like she and
Speaker 1: Laura are trapped in some like which I love, I
Speaker 1: love it. I I bet they had so much fun together.
Speaker 1: I'm obsessed. I don't want to I don't want to
Speaker 1: buy in Janny sort of like, no, I want both
Speaker 1: of them on equal sides of a t rex. They
Speaker 1: nodded each other and then fucking kill it. I want
Speaker 1: Laura dern And and Bryce Dallas to fucking that energy
Speaker 1: is very uh nev Campbell and Courtney Cox in the
Speaker 1: new scream that you can almost tell they've decided we
Speaker 1: won't be killed. So now we're just gonna glance at
Speaker 1: each other as the murders occur and then like get
Speaker 1: a shank in the knee and kill them or whatever.
Speaker 1: David Arcutt was this was this the scream where um,
Speaker 1: it's uh, where are you bringing a gun with you?
Speaker 1: I'm Sidney Prescott. I always have a Sydney Prescott said
Speaker 1: second a Memory rights, and it's actually real culture number.
Speaker 1: Sydney Prescott said Second Amendment rights, and she should if
Speaker 1: anyone's gonna say it, it should be Sydney. I mean
Speaker 1: the woman is constantly under attack. I think it's actually
Speaker 1: time and this is crazy to ask the question. Oh
Speaker 1: my god, yes, I was getting so carried away with
Speaker 1: we've never even a million times. Well, you know, he
Speaker 1: did do one of the most iconic trolls, which, by
Speaker 1: the way, I missed in my daily life. I wish
Speaker 1: more people would just come up to me and like,
Speaker 1: you have to talk right now about vera farn you
Speaker 1: pulled Chelsea Clinton. I mean, you were mean, But that's
Speaker 1: the thing about I don't think so any trouble. You
Speaker 1: don't know until you feel, until it's coming in your mouth.
Speaker 1: And I loved the Queen of the soft tweet like,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, she's like responding to like Denische Di Susa
Speaker 1: with thank you for your opinion. But it's like, what,
Speaker 1: You're not owning him at all, and this is stupid
Speaker 1: And this was peaque Chelsea Clinton twitter that that was
Speaker 1: around that time. A few years ago, Vanessa bay Are
Speaker 1: hosted like the Glamour Women of the Year Awards, and
Speaker 1: one of her jokes was like she was like she
Speaker 1: was like listening everyone that was being honored in Chelsea
Speaker 1: Clinton was one of them, and she was like Blake
Speaker 1: lively something something Chelsea Clinton. We all have some one
Speaker 1: thing in common. None of their mom were president, and
Speaker 1: so Chelsea Clinton got up like later it was like Vanessa,
Speaker 1: just so you know, it's true, none of our moms
Speaker 1: were a president, but one day one of our moms
Speaker 1: will be. And it's like Chelsea, I guess, like go off.
Speaker 1: But anyway, the question in hand, lewis fort tell what
Speaker 1: was the culture that made you say culture was for you?
Speaker 1: Can I give a preamble to the answer and then yeah,
Speaker 1: there's no rules, just vibes whatever. Um. Well, my oldest
Speaker 1: pop culture memory is when I was like minutes old
Speaker 1: and the show I would watch every day, and there
Speaker 1: are pictures of me watching it is you can't believe it.
Speaker 1: Weeld of Fortune because we are fortune to me actually
Speaker 1: has almost everything I'm interested in, which just first of all,
Speaker 1: stunning visuals, many colors, and I was so obsessed with
Speaker 1: the wheel that I would, in my spare time as
Speaker 1: a child take cake circles and draw with cran and
Speaker 1: a protractor and my mom would help me. I would
Speaker 1: make Wheel of Fortune and my younger brother Greg would
Speaker 1: do it too. Now, people familiar with the spectrum may
Speaker 1: understand that there's something about repetitiveness, like wheels spinning. I
Speaker 1: couldn't stop looking at stealing fans when I was a kid,
Speaker 1: So there was something I was. I was a little
Speaker 1: bit like close to the spectrum, just like I had.
Speaker 1: I had something with radial things, radial things, and so
Speaker 1: do my brother Greg um. And so there's something transfixing
Speaker 1: about that. Um. The puzzles routinely like clued you into idioms,
Speaker 1: yes your yes, yes, pop culture. I remember something I
Speaker 1: used to love about Wheel of Fortune. You would always
Speaker 1: see the um category star and roll or husband and wife,
Speaker 1: and so you would get the thrilling solve of Eddie
Speaker 1: van Halen and Valerie Burton Elly. And so then I
Speaker 1: would be like, I've got to remember that. And then
Speaker 1: you pay you start to pair those things, yes exactly,
Speaker 1: synapses start firing and you start building the Wikipedia and yeah,
Speaker 1: um so. And also there's something about a game show
Speaker 1: where all the sound effects are just in the right place,
Speaker 1: like if you guess wrong, you get this noise, if
Speaker 1: you get right, you get this noise. And there's something
Speaker 1: really calming about that. So the calming nature of entertainment
Speaker 1: that spoke to me. But in terms of really formative
Speaker 1: pop culture. You know that when you experience the celebrity
Speaker 1: at just the right time in your life, Like, for example,
Speaker 1: Jim Carrey came out when I was eight, and he's
Speaker 1: the perfect movie start for an eight year old. When
Speaker 1: I was in middle school, that's when I got really
Speaker 1: into old blockbuster videos of like the best of Gilda Radner.
Speaker 1: Are you bat to say, Jane, I will I will
Speaker 1: get to jams? But specifically Gilda Radner. There's something about
Speaker 1: being in middle school where you still have your childlike qualities,
Speaker 1: but a part of you is almost starting to consciously
Speaker 1: put those away, like you don't want to seem like
Speaker 1: a little kid. And Gilda Radner to experience her and
Speaker 1: her like rambunctiousness and her really like juvenile characters, and
Speaker 1: it's like for her to say, like keep all of it,
Speaker 1: keep your child by child to be a kid, you know,
Speaker 1: like just the Judy Miller show and she was the brownie,
Speaker 1: like doing a her own TV show in her room,
Speaker 1: or just the wackiness of the character. It's like yes
Speaker 1: with thector to the animals. I picked up that Mike
Speaker 1: Nichols book to read about Gilda. Only a page and
Speaker 1: half Mark Harris, You're on my list. Um, but like
Speaker 1: it was so affirming and so like, you know, I
Speaker 1: don't have to change at all, you know, I think
Speaker 1: I've really been on that ever since. Like, no, I'm
Speaker 1: I'm driven to be this thing. And also I think
Speaker 1: it's a little underrated about Guilda Redna that she was
Speaker 1: that childlike person juxtaposed with these men who honestly wanted
Speaker 1: to be cool. Her whole thing was never wanting to
Speaker 1: be cool, you know, like Chevy Chase wanted you to
Speaker 1: find him like a sexy prick. Yeah, and I like,
Speaker 1: I love um Bill Murray a comic, but like his
Speaker 1: was like always underlining with cynicism, and she always wanted
Speaker 1: to feel like I can't even begin on that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but no, I like I hated that energy and so
Speaker 1: for her to offset that, And a part of me
Speaker 1: almost thinks, like it shouldn't be this important to me
Speaker 1: that a woman was lovable on a cast, but but
Speaker 1: it was a necessary in that group of people. Between
Speaker 1: Jane and Lorraine. Yeah. Yeah, I mean you, I think
Speaker 1: you probably have a better I don't know, understanding of
Speaker 1: like those dynamics than I do, honestly, and like I
Speaker 1: don't know, I don't know why I say that, but
Speaker 1: like I think this is such a I think this
Speaker 1: is this is one of my favorite answers. Well, we've
Speaker 1: never even discussed Kilda on the show. She is a
Speaker 1: paradigm because in her footsteps comes everybody. You would never
Speaker 1: not bring her up if you, and I almost feel
Speaker 1: like they feel burdened to talk about her because she's
Speaker 1: a woman, but she is also fabulous, So she's absolutely amazing.
Speaker 1: And the thing too is like what one thing I
Speaker 1: I find is and we've we've discussed this sometimes, but
Speaker 1: there is such a unlocking of when you have fun,
Speaker 1: everyone has fun, and that's a disciple that I think
Speaker 1: um Amy Poehler follows and so many of the women
Speaker 1: else and now certainly Maya, And I think that is
Speaker 1: coming from a like it almost like a like a
Speaker 1: spiritual thing that is Gilda, because when you say that
Speaker 1: she had her she had her youthful energy but also
Speaker 1: very very very adult struggles, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Like you have to imagine that that um saved her
Speaker 1: in a way, you know what I mean, Like she
Speaker 1: had a difficult life and an adulthood, and I think
Speaker 1: that that inner child is something that um probably was
Speaker 1: a day to day salve for her and like certainly
Speaker 1: translates in her work because what she was giving you,
Speaker 1: which the rest of the cast like at the time
Speaker 1: maybe wasn't, was the sense of fun in the following
Speaker 1: of the fund, which is so important in comedy and
Speaker 1: especially at that job, at that job, and like you're
Speaker 1: so right about like the men wanting to be cool,
Speaker 1: and she didn't really give a funk, but she would
Speaker 1: still go to like Studio fifty four and you know,
Speaker 1: like still be this like I don't know this like
Speaker 1: effervescent person and oh my god, like you Carry the Light.
Speaker 1: One of the best memoir titles. I think. It's always
Speaker 1: it's always something I just read recently. And obviously there
Speaker 1: are moments of levity and that's sort of the thing
Speaker 1: that led to Guilda's Club and like, you know, having
Speaker 1: fund during a really difficult life moment. That book is
Speaker 1: basically a horror story because it's literally doctor after doctor
Speaker 1: getting her diagnosis wrong or playing down how bad it is.
Speaker 1: And it's really really tough to read, even though you
Speaker 1: really remember her point of view throughout it. You remember, like, god,
Speaker 1: she really was fucking obsessed with Gene Wilder and that
Speaker 1: really like propelled her through a lot of that. But um,
Speaker 1: it's an invaluable book for that reason. There's some I
Speaker 1: think it's either in the book or it's in something
Speaker 1: else where. It's like she's like, uh, she's writing about
Speaker 1: what she wants her tombstone to say, or she's like,
Speaker 1: bury me with a TV and have my tombstone say
Speaker 1: here lies Guilder Radn or she had a great time
Speaker 1: or something, and I'm like, oh my, did you see
Speaker 1: love guild at that documentary that they did on him
Speaker 1: and year ago? So good, just so good. And yeah,
Speaker 1: I can't believe we haven't talked about her on this well.
Speaker 1: You know, I think it's one of those things. It's
Speaker 1: just kind of generational because it's it's just I know
Speaker 1: the name is a little bit lost to time. It
Speaker 1: certainly is, and I mean it's it's very similar to
Speaker 1: Lucy actually, because you know, whenever I think we were
Speaker 1: that last generation of people who were watching Nick and
Speaker 1: Knight and the show was on. It's weird to think
Speaker 1: of like kids now not having that understanding of where
Speaker 1: sitcom came from and where female driven comedy like really
Speaker 1: came from in terms of like mainstream television, but with Guilda,
Speaker 1: I think that her spirit so lives on and the
Speaker 1: women that followed her that at least that you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, Like I would imagine that it's certainly
Speaker 1: emotional for any like female cast member that goes through
Speaker 1: SNL to see her picture on the wall. She also,
Speaker 1: by the way, was kind of a Whitney Houston situation
Speaker 1: where like America, the country was led to believe she
Speaker 1: was sort of getting better. She made like a yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: So I wonder if there's additional um feelings attached to
Speaker 1: oh my god, she'd up and died. You know. It's
Speaker 1: like those like the final days where like I think
Speaker 1: like it was like, uh, Bill Murray would go and
Speaker 1: visit her, or like it's like a lot of like
Speaker 1: those SNL people visited her in the hospital and like
Speaker 1: she just was just just kind of like so frail
Speaker 1: and just like sagged in their arms, and it was
Speaker 1: like this is Guilder Ratter who was like life jumping
Speaker 1: all over the place. You know. It's also it's so
Speaker 1: it's so sad and frustrating when you realized that someone
Speaker 1: was taken by something that maybe twenty or thirty years
Speaker 1: later could have been dealt with a little bit or
Speaker 1: much better, you know what I mean. It's just one
Speaker 1: of those things. And like her legacy obviously literally lives
Speaker 1: on and so many people that followed her, but it
Speaker 1: is good to keep the aim like alive because you know,
Speaker 1: it's just there was no one like her, I mean,
Speaker 1: and she opened that door, like like when you talk
Speaker 1: about it like truly someone who influenced so many and
Speaker 1: then by the same token you speak about Jane like
Speaker 1: a completely different energy at the same time, and by
Speaker 1: the way, is like my hero I should and beside that,
Speaker 1: I as an adult, feel like I have become more
Speaker 1: of a Jane curtain. Oh yeah, that's me. And I've
Speaker 1: heard I think Tina Fey even said you something you
Speaker 1: realize after a certain time that you're not a guilt
Speaker 1: of And like there's even something about the way she
Speaker 1: read the news during weekend Update where it was about
Speaker 1: hard punch lines, like I'm not reacting emotionally to this,
Speaker 1: I'm not looking at the guy to my left, where
Speaker 1: she plays it so straight that I feel like, in
Speaker 1: a way, she was the most influential of the early
Speaker 1: people to do it because like people don't do it
Speaker 1: like Chevy Chase now or even Bill Murray. You know,
Speaker 1: there's the hard cell of the line I rolled at
Speaker 1: Accompany's it. I feel like it's very Tina Fee where
Speaker 1: it was like the chevy Chases gave way to like
Speaker 1: the Letterman's in terms of definitely in terms of this like, oh,
Speaker 1: I'm a male comedian, so I will be a little
Speaker 1: bit of a just a little bit of an asshole
Speaker 1: above it all, above it all in a way that's
Speaker 1: fun and like the audience kind of responds to and
Speaker 1: laughs at. But but Jane did kind of set this
Speaker 1: precedent of like, um, someone who's just like I'm not
Speaker 1: put upon, but someone is just like just trying to
Speaker 1: get through it, like I don't know, and like honestly
Speaker 1: in a way that like maybe like I would say,
Speaker 1: Jay has a little bit of Jane weirdly similar. They
Speaker 1: are similar on that just like reading the news and
Speaker 1: be like okay, like here we go. Like Chay, like
Speaker 1: Chay for all of his like online behavior like has
Speaker 1: this very like he wouldn't mind be saying this, Like
Speaker 1: he has this very like um uh calculated troll persona
Speaker 1: that he loves. But on the show, it's like except
Speaker 1: for when he's like, you know, shipping on Hall, and
Speaker 1: it's like if he's reading just like a headline and
Speaker 1: a set up at a punchline, he's just kind of like, Okay,
Speaker 1: here we go. You know. He doesn't give it much,
Speaker 1: which which I think is kind of Jane Jane, which
Speaker 1: the IY roll is sort of like whatever you know,
Speaker 1: and like, um, yeah, have you met Jane ever? No.
Speaker 1: One time, Well, I was wearing my Jane curtain shirt.
Speaker 1: I was at a Trader Joe's in Los Angeles and
Speaker 1: I get to the counter and the guy goes, you
Speaker 1: just missed her. She was just here. I was like,
Speaker 1: I mean, that's like a Joker origin story, Like my
Speaker 1: brain went fifty directions. Anyway, she seems and she also,
Speaker 1: by the way, is a celebrity Jeopardy legend. She made
Speaker 1: She made it to the end of a giant tournament
Speaker 1: and lost in the end to Michael McKean, who's also Yeah,
Speaker 1: but she's like a trivia girl, which I love, and
Speaker 1: in fact was on a game show in the six
Speaker 1: late sixties or seventies that I forget the name of.
Speaker 1: But I was like, wow, and you're a game show
Speaker 1: girl like UIs. We didn't. That's the one game show
Speaker 1: I lost, unfortunately. But so that going back to a
Speaker 1: little fortune is that I don't know this, It's hard.
Speaker 1: I don't what am I asking? Like was that paired
Speaker 1: with Jeopardy over time, like you just watch both shows
Speaker 1: in the same sitting. And also something that was seminal
Speaker 1: was that you could play home versions of Wheel of
Speaker 1: Fortunate in Jeopardy that my parents had. So that's how
Speaker 1: I learned to like type on the computer. I mean
Speaker 1: you can to the Wikipedia biopic is like writing itself
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, and like that's how I started
Speaker 1: accruing knowledge whatever. And I just want to say about
Speaker 1: Pat say Jack too. While his politics disappoint me, he
Speaker 1: is incredibly underrated on that. He's very very good rules
Speaker 1: he has to get through and then he conveys them
Speaker 1: in a different way every time with like a joke. Again,
Speaker 1: I just brought up Bill Murray. I watched Um groundhog
Speaker 1: Day recently. Pat say Jack style is not different than
Speaker 1: Bill Murray, who was giving you like who was giving
Speaker 1: you like a a soft cynicism, but he underlines it
Speaker 1: with a smile to keep the game going, and I
Speaker 1: find it so reliably good. It's just the way someone
Speaker 1: when someone is like, d it's not deep, yes, I
Speaker 1: know the no, no, do you know what I'm saying?
Speaker 1: Like it's like that kind of thing, or it's just
Speaker 1: like that, Well you're up there moving on. It is
Speaker 1: there is something calustic about it, I guess, and it's
Speaker 1: just it's it's the tone is wonderful. But also, of
Speaker 1: course there's an awkward disc Wheel of Fortune where you
Speaker 1: could have one letter left and still not know the
Speaker 1: puzzle and maybe everybody else, maybe everybody else in America
Speaker 1: knows the puzzle. It's extremely stress Birds of a Weather.
Speaker 1: Oh but like, imagine you're responding to that. Okay, it's me.
Speaker 1: I'm a fantastic your pats agent Birds of Weather? What
Speaker 1: that's oh oh well no, what I would that I
Speaker 1: would that would be my authentic responsive to weather. Honestly,
Speaker 1: I can't That's when I love that on YouTube. I
Speaker 1: cannot sit through it because, by the way, as somebody
Speaker 1: pointed out to me, I think it was my friend
Speaker 1: David Clark. He said, actually, Wheel of Fortune is the
Speaker 1: more uh brainier gain than Jeopardy because if you get
Speaker 1: a question on Jeopardy, it's like calling response like you
Speaker 1: know what I feel a fortune you are you have
Speaker 1: the responsibility of solving something in front of America. You
Speaker 1: have to use your brain to do it. And even
Speaker 1: though it's like a meager task, really it can still
Speaker 1: not occur. And then what the snakes are super high
Speaker 1: because of how menial it seems, you know it's And meanwhile,
Speaker 1: Jeopardy it's like I genuinely feel and I went on
Speaker 1: wants to be a Millionaire? Because I said the same
Speaker 1: thing and how much would you want a millionaire? Thirty ground? Okay,
Speaker 1: I won five and I got to twenty and then
Speaker 1: did something stupid and got knocked down. But I honestly
Speaker 1: felt like, who wants to be a millionaire? What? You know?
Speaker 1: Did you do it in Vegas? Yes? So they put
Speaker 1: so much bullshit on it and it's just you, and
Speaker 1: it's so dramatic and there's so much and the words
Speaker 1: are so big, and it feels so high stakes on
Speaker 1: you that I almost feel like, despite the fact that
Speaker 1: the level of difficulty is not Jeopardy, that it feels
Speaker 1: more high stakes than my heart pressure because it is
Speaker 1: on you. You are the star of that episode. Meanwhile, Jeopardy,
Speaker 1: it's like when you're with three and then the host
Speaker 1: and it's more fast moving. You almost have more clarity
Speaker 1: and like in terms of when you're going to buzz
Speaker 1: in what the answer is. And I feel like watching
Speaker 1: Jeopardy more like allows you to be better at the game,
Speaker 1: whereas millionaires kind of just like it is not what
Speaker 1: it seems like. Oh, also the deal with millionaires you
Speaker 1: can't pass up a question if you don't know it all.
Speaker 1: But I think this is what's this is what's interesting
Speaker 1: about what Louis said about Will of Fortune, where it's
Speaker 1: like the cues, the sounds are placed just right, and
Speaker 1: I think that the oral slash sonic landscaping of a
Speaker 1: game show is so important. But real fortune just kind
Speaker 1: of feels the stakes don't seem that high because like
Speaker 1: the sounds are like thing, but like it feels like
Speaker 1: kind of frivolous and fun. Jeopardy it's like mostly silent, right,
Speaker 1: and then a millionaire is fucking like it's scored. Feels think. Yes,
Speaker 1: So if you don't know what immediately, you have to
Speaker 1: sort through it and then speak through it. And then
Speaker 1: if you're me or Matt, you obviously feel somewhat obligated
Speaker 1: to give entertainment and it's it's so yes, it's theater,
Speaker 1: but this is what I mean study and I I
Speaker 1: brought studio as my plus one and we had like
Speaker 1: essentially a comedy bit. And when I brought it up
Speaker 1: and I was like, see, now did I get something
Speaker 1: out of this because that went well or because because
Speaker 1: the questions like, but ultimately it is and what I
Speaker 1: would say to everyone at home that's watching a millionaire
Speaker 1: like that is not something they put in later, like
Speaker 1: they're scoring it while you're there, like and you're like, um,
Speaker 1: I cannot think, like and I remember, like there were
Speaker 1: certain questions that I was always gonna get right, Like
Speaker 1: I got a viola Davis. I remember that, yes, and
Speaker 1: so that one was fine, But then were other ones
Speaker 1: where the one that I got out on was a
Speaker 1: question about the spelling. And I don't think I would
Speaker 1: have ever gotten it wrong except in that situation. And
Speaker 1: you're saying that they did not they did score it
Speaker 1: in that moment, or they didn't they did, they did,
Speaker 1: and yes, and see like that, I definitely know that
Speaker 1: Ebeneezer is spelled eb and easy are in the moment
Speaker 1: easy to second guess when you see four spellings. Yes,
Speaker 1: And I thought for a second because because the question
Speaker 1: was phrased like what is the correct spelling of the
Speaker 1: protagonist name of Charles Dickens's um Christmas Carol? And I
Speaker 1: thought maybe they'll give four different names. No, they gave
Speaker 1: four different spellings of Ebeneezer, and I was like fuck.
Speaker 1: And at that point they have kept you there all day.
Speaker 1: The coffee situation was bleak, like they tire you out.
Speaker 1: All you're watching in the dressing room is jepar is
Speaker 1: um who wants So the last thing you want to
Speaker 1: do when you out there is play that fucking game.
Speaker 1: Everyone's watching the scoring, etcetera. Your brain is not your
Speaker 1: brain at home. Yeah, yeah, and you've been I think
Speaker 1: you've been kept from your phone and like material, we
Speaker 1: can't have a book, you can't have anything that gives
Speaker 1: you any information essentially, but the sound design of these
Speaker 1: shows I take for granted. Unfortunately, Yeah, I Jeopardy is
Speaker 1: like even like the dude like it's like it's it's
Speaker 1: then of course the iconic final song, which the greatest
Speaker 1: bop in history, which is like why merv Griffin had
Speaker 1: all the money he had. It's um, but I guess,
Speaker 1: but as your do you think we'll have fortune? Are
Speaker 1: we saying that we'll have fortune tricks the contestant into
Speaker 1: this ease that then sets them up for total humiliation potentially. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well it's it's I would compare it to family feud
Speaker 1: in that the question is not difficult. So if you
Speaker 1: get it right, you feel merely relieved, as opposed to
Speaker 1: if you missed it, you feel devastated and so stupid.
Speaker 1: And by the way, at home really are like fuck
Speaker 1: that fucking idiot. Ye right. And by the way, if
Speaker 1: you want to family feud, I guarantee you're not coming
Speaker 1: up with every answer. No, you know, no, I would
Speaker 1: stuck at family feud. I think that family feud it
Speaker 1: will be just one of those things where I think
Speaker 1: I'd be good at the last part. Yeah, just like
Speaker 1: the the call and response, it's like improv Yeah, but
Speaker 1: you you want to be closer to Steve because you
Speaker 1: want to be the one that goes and not be
Speaker 1: the person that's like or what are things that a
Speaker 1: wife might say to us man, and you're like, you
Speaker 1: need to eat my pussy And it's like and then
Speaker 1: it's like you give it to him, but like it's
Speaker 1: not right, you know what I mean? But you don't
Speaker 1: want to be last on the end. Like I think
Speaker 1: that's what families make the mistake of. They put the
Speaker 1: flops on the end. The black strips of the family
Speaker 1: are on the end. That's where the points are made. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because of Marissa is on the end. She's not really
Speaker 1: in our family, but we need an extra spot? What
Speaker 1: do you think? And then it's just like I don't know,
Speaker 1: but you know, what are our thoughts on Steve Harvey
Speaker 1: as host? I do think, I mean, he's good at
Speaker 1: what he does. I think he's a great speaking voice.
Speaker 1: I think so too. But I will say this, he
Speaker 1: really will just do the sorry, what's the thing called
Speaker 1: when you corpse or like when you look at the
Speaker 1: camera when people say anything. He's not even paying attention.
Speaker 1: He's corpsing sort of in a way that is like, um,
Speaker 1: he's also not he's also an actual literal corpse. And
Speaker 1: then he's he's weaking a burdens Burns like every year
Speaker 1: because he knows it works. I'm sure you can film
Speaker 1: like eight episodes that in to day too. Sure, Yeah, honestly,
Speaker 1: I find it very captivating as a as a host,
Speaker 1: I love it. But I came up on Louis Anderson
Speaker 1: for who was awesome a great family feud host, and
Speaker 1: not enough people talk about his time on that show,
Speaker 1: you know. And and then on the show I'm on now,
Speaker 1: the makeup artists work on baskets and they say he
Speaker 1: was the nice like just like such a sweet guy.
Speaker 1: I'm like, what a loss, I think. Um. Also, I
Speaker 1: believe Casey Wilson had a comments about him recently where
Speaker 1: she said that, um, she was at an event with
Speaker 1: him and she complimented him on baskets and he turned
Speaker 1: to her and he said, you know, I'm playing my
Speaker 1: mother and it's a tribute to her. And she was like, oh, well,
Speaker 1: I lost my mother. And he said to her, um,
Speaker 1: oh my god, what was her name? And she said
Speaker 1: her name? And he looked to this guy and said hello,
Speaker 1: the name, thank you, and like there was tears in
Speaker 1: his eyes and then he walked away. Apparently he was
Speaker 1: just like a beautiful soul who like really like was
Speaker 1: giving that performance, you know, like and no ego or
Speaker 1: like thought about like the fact that he was like,
Speaker 1: you know, dressing up as a woman to play it,
Speaker 1: just like genuinely playing No. You could tell that the
Speaker 1: like Emmy gauntlet of it all was bewildering to him,
Speaker 1: and he was just happy to have gotten there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he was very he was very, very, very special. And
Speaker 1: then he was replaced on Family Food with Richard Carne,
Speaker 1: who seems like a nice guy and was so bad
Speaker 1: on the show. And then I feel like maybe that
Speaker 1: like washed away the memory of Louis Anderson. And then
Speaker 1: Steve Harvey hosted and it became the most popular it's
Speaker 1: ever been, which, by the way, is a crazy feat
Speaker 1: for a show that debuted in the What is this
Speaker 1: new show that Rue is hosting? Lingo? So that is
Speaker 1: basically word all, but it's a game show that It's
Speaker 1: had several literations. The one I'm most familiar with was
Speaker 1: the game show Network version in the two thousand's, hosted
Speaker 1: by Chuck Willory, former Wheel of Fortune host um. It
Speaker 1: was originally hosted by Ronald Reagan's son, Michael Reagan. Very strange,
Speaker 1: but yeah, it's, uh, you're figuring out what a five
Speaker 1: letter word is. You're given the first letter, you call
Speaker 1: out a five letter word, and then they tell you
Speaker 1: what letters are in the right place. What once, aren't
Speaker 1: you have a couple of chances to it is? Okay?
Speaker 1: So yeah, great, I feel like it's been time for
Speaker 1: Rue to host a show like that. Yes, yes, I
Speaker 1: actually enjoyed Gay for Pay. I like, you know, it
Speaker 1: was it was really fun. It was sort of like
Speaker 1: a fucking fag version of like, you know, like what's
Speaker 1: like game? But yeah, like it was fun and like
Speaker 1: I feel like Rue is so invigorated by that ship,
Speaker 1: like you know what I mean, he feels like like
Speaker 1: this same type of passion and real love for that
Speaker 1: art form. No, Rue came and hosted Jimmy Kimmel Alive
Speaker 1: and the head writers on my show were like, well, queen,
Speaker 1: here's your time and pushed me at him and I
Speaker 1: got to write a couple of sketches for him. I mean,
Speaker 1: I have to say it was gratifying to feel like
Speaker 1: a kindred spirit with him. Any fucking reference would come
Speaker 1: up and I'm like, yes, you are this person. I
Speaker 1: had lots of ideas about what he could be, and
Speaker 1: what he was was very encouraging. Yeah, I maybe told
Speaker 1: you this. One time I went into his dressing room
Speaker 1: I forget why, and he had a computer open and
Speaker 1: he's just watching old episodes of Charlie's Angels. He goes,
Speaker 1: he goes, those girls really had chemistry. He was like,
Speaker 1: I agree, you know he really is, Like he's like
Speaker 1: he is just like a classic fag. You know, that's
Speaker 1: the who else is want. I just want to give
Speaker 1: him credit. Cola Scola is a classic. Talked to him forever,
Speaker 1: but every once in a while he list meshed with
Speaker 1: me with Luis, have you seen this glorious Swanson interview?
Speaker 1: And I'm like, I have a tear in my eye already.
Speaker 1: Thank you. We were at this party like last week.
Speaker 1: All three of us were like I remember I think
Speaker 1: it was like Joel's boyfriend talking about Happy Orange talking
Speaker 1: about Happy Orange. I was like, oh my god. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Like it's like this is just a thing that like
Speaker 1: all queers have gathered around their televisions and watched. I lost.
Speaker 1: I lost. It's so so brilliant. I mean, there's nothing
Speaker 1: I mean and like I'm I'm I'm on this, I'm
Speaker 1: on this project. Now. We're like I'm working with these
Speaker 1: two people who like love of different generations, who are
Speaker 1: obsessed with him that that happens a lot like him
Speaker 1: thank you God, thank you God. But it's not even
Speaker 1: it's not even amy. It's like all these people who
Speaker 1: are like who have no who do not care what
Speaker 1: our generation does, except for people like Cole, and I'm like, yep,
Speaker 1: deserves it genuinely. I mean we I always say, my God,
Speaker 1: damn hero like so truly and in another class. Um.
Speaker 1: But as a as Cloris Leachman once said about pauland
Speaker 1: Born finished, that's always good. That's good. Couldn't be me,
Speaker 1: couldn't be me. I think it might be time time.
Speaker 1: So this is I don't think so honey, everybody at home.
Speaker 1: And this is the one minute segment that we do routinely,
Speaker 1: in fact, every single time on this podcast, where we
Speaker 1: take one minute to rail and rant and rap again
Speaker 1: something in pop culture that I think we need it sucks,
Speaker 1: yes we must. And traditionally I go first, and I
Speaker 1: do have a topic. Okay, I'm o'clock. This is Matt Rodgers.
Speaker 1: And I don't think so many as time starts now,
Speaker 1: I don't think so many football I don't get it,
Speaker 1: and I should. My father was an awarded defensive coordinator
Speaker 1: for almost forty years in Lyndon Hurst High School and I,
Speaker 1: and I was nicknamed by the cheerleaders little rogers. I
Speaker 1: had a jersey and everything. Don't fucking get it. Here
Speaker 1: are the things I understand. First down, I guess yeah,
Speaker 1: I get getting it past the line, and now we
Speaker 1: get to keep going. What the funk are the xs
Speaker 1: ands on the playboards? And I always feel like the
Speaker 1: fact I don't think so honey, that straight men know
Speaker 1: how to figure this out and I don't. They can
Speaker 1: go in a locker room, look up on a white board,
Speaker 1: there's exs and os and they get it. Why don't
Speaker 1: I the plays? They're going this way that way. I
Speaker 1: don't understand how it all works. I don't understand when
Speaker 1: you decide to kick the ball through the goddamn field
Speaker 1: goal and when you run it. I would always run it.
Speaker 1: It's more points. I feel like, what is the deal
Speaker 1: with football? Also the culture of football? You know, all
Speaker 1: their brains are mush from collision, collision, collision. We all
Speaker 1: saw the Will Smith movie, just kidding, we didn't um
Speaker 1: what was that called? Collateral? Confession? Concussion? But all I'm
Speaker 1: saying is I don't think so many football and that's
Speaker 1: thank you. Yes, I don't think there should be an
Speaker 1: Onion article about what puppies have sustained during the Puppy Bowl.
Speaker 1: We need to understand what will Smith nonsense. They're all
Speaker 1: up to the football of it all. I just think
Speaker 1: that it's one of those things that as a civilization,
Speaker 1: if we were to zoom out, we look at it
Speaker 1: and be like not that, like when aliens come, they're
Speaker 1: gonna be like, you guys, do what, Like it's the
Speaker 1: only gladiator type thing about this where I'm like, this
Speaker 1: is not right, Like it's it's so many things had
Speaker 1: to align for football to be like had this happen
Speaker 1: in a sequential order for football to be this big,
Speaker 1: like something there was a glitch in the matrix, otherwise
Speaker 1: we would be a soccer country. Yeah, Or you know,
Speaker 1: my promenting sports in general outside of volleyball, which I
Speaker 1: think should be more popular, is that because they're wearing helmets,
Speaker 1: I can't see the personal stakes in their eyes. So like,
Speaker 1: you know, like the moments you get in tennis where
Speaker 1: it's like, oh, here comes whatever Aronha Sanchez Vicario and
Speaker 1: she's thinking about something and it's and it's angsty and
Speaker 1: she had a bad day, Like that doesn't factor into
Speaker 1: what I get from football, so there's no character study. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we needed more who wants to be a millionaire vibe
Speaker 1: where we all are watching one person go through it,
Speaker 1: and I feel like that to me makes me root
Speaker 1: for people, like for example, figure scanning. It's all the
Speaker 1: rage right now at being the Olympics, and when I'm
Speaker 1: watching it, I'm so stressed out in a good way
Speaker 1: that I think as a fan this positive where I'm
Speaker 1: watching Nathan Chan and I know what he's doing is
Speaker 1: so difficult, and when I see him kill it and
Speaker 1: then his little face lights up after it, I'm just like, God,
Speaker 1: this is so true, like a game show, and I
Speaker 1: just feel like, you know, with the football of it all,
Speaker 1: it's like I'm zooming out and I don't get like
Speaker 1: what it is, and I feel like maybe, like chemically,
Speaker 1: it's just not for me. Obviously, so many millions of
Speaker 1: people enjoy it, but it's something that I never could penetrate.
Speaker 1: And what I always thought was interesting is my dad
Speaker 1: was a football coach's entire life, played football whatever, never
Speaker 1: ever ever put a football in my hands in the backyard,
Speaker 1: never wanted to do that. And I said to him,
Speaker 1: like a couple of years ago, I was like, hey,
Speaker 1: like baseball was a completely different thing. I played baseball
Speaker 1: all through high school. Um, but he never ever ever
Speaker 1: pushed football on me. And I asked him. I was
Speaker 1: like why. He was like, well, you never showed any
Speaker 1: interest in it. I'm like, I never showed any interest
Speaker 1: in baseball, but you encourage it. And he sat there
Speaker 1: and he actually admitted, he said, you know, I think
Speaker 1: that I don't think the kids need to be playing it.
Speaker 1: And I was like, do you acknowledge that it sucks
Speaker 1: with people in terms of their health and well being?
Speaker 1: And he was like, I guess maybe I do. And
Speaker 1: so it's like interesting to see someone from that boomer
Speaker 1: generation literally say I could coach kids doing it if
Speaker 1: they opted into it, but not my kid. That's okay.
Speaker 1: And you have said this to me before, and that
Speaker 1: is that is that is very interesting. I don't really know.
Speaker 1: I have nothing to add. I mean, it's just it's
Speaker 1: just I feel the same disconnect from the sport though.
Speaker 1: It's like I want to like what people like, like
Speaker 1: I'm not here to like resist popular things. I feel
Speaker 1: constantly illiterate about it. It makes me feel bad. I
Speaker 1: just don't get it well. And that's The thing is,
Speaker 1: it's like when they really get like when there's a
Speaker 1: flag on the play and like things stop. I'm like, why,
Speaker 1: I know I'm someone who understands ship And then there
Speaker 1: is that little trigger something. By the way, again, where
Speaker 1: are the fun visuals? Right right? There is that thing
Speaker 1: when you're growing up queer though, when you don't understand
Speaker 1: something and you assume, oh, it's because I'm stupid. And
Speaker 1: movies sometimes, like all the time, all the time, you
Speaker 1: feel that way, that chrish Liker and it's like we
Speaker 1: literally sit here and talk about sucking Norma Shearer all day.
Speaker 1: We are obsessed with movies were important. If I closed
Speaker 1: my eyes outside of this room and thought about someone
Speaker 1: who understands film better than anybody, it would be like
Speaker 1: the two of you, but specifically like you and Chris
Speaker 1: and Shliker. I'm like, these are two like very but
Speaker 1: this this is relatable. King Well, I'll say it. Sometimes
Speaker 1: I'm watching Marvel movies and I'm more confused and complicated drama.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm watching Guarden. When we walked out of
Speaker 1: we walked out of Guardians, watched the first Guardians we watched.
Speaker 1: I think more than half of it and I turned
Speaker 1: to you and I said, the hell is going on?
Speaker 1: Are you still doing this? And we walked the funk out.
Speaker 1: I was like, I did not even Glenn close herself
Speaker 1: can keep me in this seat? And the thirty one
Speaker 1: seconds of air time. You know, she's a lead of
Speaker 1: the ride, so she is she's playing of learning this news.
Speaker 1: She was like she was she was. They released like
Speaker 1: a commercial for the ride which is coming out this summer,
Speaker 1: and she's like, Hi, I'm Optimal Clark and we're gonna
Speaker 1: We're gonna ride the bugoon to the moon and it's
Speaker 1: gonna be you and I and I've cut this summer.
Speaker 1: Stay you there and bring your pown floon. And it's like,
Speaker 1: I don't understand. What the fuck? What is the vocabulary? No,
Speaker 1: I will never forgive people to tell for telling me
Speaker 1: to see thor Ragnar because Kate Blanchet was in a girlfriend.
Speaker 1: They could have cut her out of that. It was
Speaker 1: not good. I don't care about her. And Antler's Yeah,
Speaker 1: what was her name, Velka or something? Yeah, that's what
Speaker 1: her name. Isn't the Dragon movie? Okay, I train your Dragon,
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter, it's anyway. Yeah, it wasn't even that
Speaker 1: fun for her, It wasn't even that fun. It should
Speaker 1: have been. It should have been like the Halloween costume
Speaker 1: for fag and yet like it didn't. John. But I
Speaker 1: will say, like I'm I'm in support of like a
Speaker 1: list actress says, who are better than it coming in
Speaker 1: for one, Like I'm in support of that. How do
Speaker 1: you feel like about Natalie Portman coming in for this,
Speaker 1: for this, for this next door movie kind of leading
Speaker 1: the whole thing because who else is Vanity fair career
Speaker 1: timeline video. I'm obsessed with his, Natalie's. Both of them
Speaker 1: I think are like very close peers. And I'm not
Speaker 1: saying anything new, but it's like I just really think
Speaker 1: that they from from starting out as child actors to
Speaker 1: like becoming prestigie. Um, Natalie, I guess outpacing Curston a
Speaker 1: bit just earlier in terms of the aco right right,
Speaker 1: But for her, I think I think people can have
Speaker 1: long considered themselves Natalieportman stands right right right. Um. I
Speaker 1: always feel though, like, um, the thor m C movies
Speaker 1: are because they're Taika, they're a little since the last
Speaker 1: one yet yeah, and they're a little bit more they
Speaker 1: let the actors have fun a little bit more on.
Speaker 1: They're a little bit more off kilter and off beaten, funnier,
Speaker 1: and so I think she is creatively involved. I'm sure
Speaker 1: she'll make it fun for her. But when I see
Speaker 1: her in like, you're a highness. This is her movie,
Speaker 1: wasn't It had the feeling of film before the Yeah,
Speaker 1: for sure, and then no strings attached, coming out at
Speaker 1: the same time as Black Swan and everyone being like,
Speaker 1: is this gonna hurt her? Yeah? You know that whole thing.
Speaker 1: I just want Black Swan again. It's so good, it
Speaker 1: is really entertaining. I do think it's about nothing, though,
Speaker 1: and I don't know that I love it as a win.
Speaker 1: I love it. I think it's about a lot. It's
Speaker 1: it should be called woman is Upset. I mean we
Speaker 1: are famously Natalie. Amila's Natalie, and I'm Mila, and I
Speaker 1: love it. Chrisler and I call ourselves Rinko in Adriana,
Speaker 1: Who's Rinco? Who's Adriana? I think I'm Rinko. I can
Speaker 1: see Chris started running through the desert in that first
Speaker 1: scene as Adriana talk about two people who got nominations,
Speaker 1: and then like what Ricocchi, Yeah, you didn't she do
Speaker 1: one thing? What is she? What did rinko? Who? No,
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know. Bring it back? They
Speaker 1: got the moving to supporting actress dominations right anyways, um
Speaker 1: Bone Yang, it might be time for your out of
Speaker 1: think honey, if you would like to go, I would
Speaker 1: love to And that is the answer I like. Um so,
Speaker 1: this is bo and Yang the most iconic men in Hollywood.
Speaker 1: One of the most iconic, I'll take it, sexiest men alive.
Speaker 1: Powerful butt hole. Um well I found a week Yeah,
Speaker 1: Lewis didn't like, I say, one of the most powerful
Speaker 1: assholes in Hollywood. Physically yes, And this is where I
Speaker 1: don't make any time shots now, I don't think so, honey.
Speaker 1: Hotel trash cans please be bigger. I need you to
Speaker 1: hold more. You need to be a vessel, and you
Speaker 1: were giving me a little cup holder scale. Will give
Speaker 1: us the depth that we require of you, because otherwise
Speaker 1: you're setting us up for true like slovenly, I think,
Speaker 1: I think it really does. I never feel more slovenly
Speaker 1: than I do in a hotel room, not because of
Speaker 1: anything else besides the trash spilling out the overflow. There's
Speaker 1: no way to make that look good to organize it.
Speaker 1: And then especially in like in the post COVID world
Speaker 1: and in a COVID world, I should say where some
Speaker 1: hotels are only doing every other day housekeeping, which I respect,
Speaker 1: that's fine. I don't think it really. I think this
Speaker 1: is one of those things that needs to die. As
Speaker 1: we learned to live with the virus quote unquote, but
Speaker 1: bigger trash cans, it's been. It's been. We've been needing
Speaker 1: them since the beginning of time. Bigger hotel trash cans.
Speaker 1: I am. I'm living in my own filth right now,
Speaker 1: and I know I'm not this person. Please please, please
Speaker 1: be bigger. I beg you, and that's a minute. Be
Speaker 1: they say, be better, be bigger. Thank you for pulling that,
Speaker 1: because it's something that I always think and never never
Speaker 1: make an issue out of it. They're so small, and
Speaker 1: you know what happens. You know, you're at a hotel,
Speaker 1: You walk down the street and there's a seven eleven,
Speaker 1: You get like a Gatorade or something, and then you
Speaker 1: come back and throw it out. Guess what half the
Speaker 1: garbage can is a Gatorade bottle? Now, and you feel
Speaker 1: like you're that person. I guess I'm the person who
Speaker 1: drinks Gatorade all the time. I'm Gatorade girl. Now, I'm
Speaker 1: gatorade girl. Now I'm getting paid for this nice hotel,
Speaker 1: and I'm girl. I don't not care what the housekeepers think.
Speaker 1: There is something, especially if it's let's say you're at
Speaker 1: a nice hotel and there's not not that there's anything
Speaker 1: classed about having gatorade or drinking gatorade, but something about
Speaker 1: a gatorade being in a fancy hotel trash can doesn't
Speaker 1: really Now I'm not getting my money's worth, even though
Speaker 1: I did it exactly. I just and I'll say again,
Speaker 1: I don't want the housekeepers thinking I'm garbage. I don't
Speaker 1: want them to think I'm averages. There's seeing so much.
Speaker 1: They're like hardened professionals. They can't possibly see your gum
Speaker 1: or whatever and think what allows. But sometimes though, okay,
Speaker 1: I'll be vulnerable. Sometimes there's common thing I worry about
Speaker 1: coming and I worry about sometimes like and this is
Speaker 1: not a big deal, but like pissing the toilet. Don't
Speaker 1: anyone coming in and seeing my piss? Like I have
Speaker 1: like an anti kink about piss in the toilet, boll
Speaker 1: being left there. Oh sure, I understand. It's like yellow,
Speaker 1: let it mellow, like save water, etcetera. The dolphins, the oceans,
Speaker 1: the whales. I just feel like my thing is just
Speaker 1: like I don't like to see it. Yeah right, it's
Speaker 1: not appetizing. It's horrible, exactly right. But you're like a scientist.
Speaker 1: Do you have all the terms? That's what That's what
Speaker 1: everyone says. You know, this podcast has been cited in
Speaker 1: academic work? Oh has it for our insight into the
Speaker 1: entertainment industry? Oh? God, that's too bad. I couldn't believe it.
Speaker 1: Like I went to I stumbled him on the Wikipedia
Speaker 1: and it was like the podcast has been cited in
Speaker 1: academic work. And I was like, I clicked the site
Speaker 1: and I was like, where the fuck is this? Like
Speaker 1: lo and behold. It was like it was something like
Speaker 1: how it's hard to get queer art made and it
Speaker 1: said Rogers and Yang and see. I thought the work
Speaker 1: was going to be academic work, was going to be
Speaker 1: like some like fucking thesis on like gay histrionic behavior
Speaker 1: or like two people, and it was about every episode
Speaker 1: we released in June of last year. No, but anyway, yeah, no,
Speaker 1: the housekeeping of it all, I'm conscious of it. And
Speaker 1: the trash cans are a little and it's a stack deck.
Speaker 1: It's a stack deck. Literally, it's overflowing. And the deal
Speaker 1: is you need a bigger garbage can. It just needs
Speaker 1: to be put somewhere that you don't see it. Thank you.
Speaker 1: How are how are you? How well are you keeping
Speaker 1: your apartment these days? Well, you know, that's like my
Speaker 1: one of the things I am worsed at. I have
Speaker 1: no organizational qualities whatsoever. My my mom was always like,
Speaker 1: I should come sometimes so I can clean it. It's prophetic.
Speaker 1: I just I just don't have this get you should
Speaker 1: get someone to come quiet. I know it's not hard.
Speaker 1: I should probably just do that. I don't do it either.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying I become better. Like, honestly, this is
Speaker 1: such a cliche, but if I am having like someone
Speaker 1: over to hook up, then I magically the ability to clean. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you just need it's some steady motivation to like, I
Speaker 1: don't know, every two weeks do a deep clean. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I guess that schedule hook up every two weeks. That
Speaker 1: help me, Honestly, especially now that you're in the hotel
Speaker 1: clean up. Something about this hotel that I'm staying at
Speaker 1: It's not sex. Burbank Acount was so deeply unsexy, and
Speaker 1: it's I will I don't want to have I'm in
Speaker 1: no moody to bring people over. But it's okay. There's
Speaker 1: also something. The problem with Burbank is also the definitive
Speaker 1: pop culture memories. They would always say that's what this
Speaker 1: Night Show with Jay Lena was, right, So I think
Speaker 1: of that every time I'm there. And it's been thirteen
Speaker 1: years since I've lived in l A. I have not
Speaker 1: shut it yet. Like I only recently shed um Santa
Speaker 1: Monica Boulevard, not thinking of the Sheryl Crow song. I'm
Speaker 1: not shed Santa Monica. Um, I think of private practice. Still.
Speaker 1: When I think of Santa Monica as a place, I thinkright,
Speaker 1: private practice. You know what silesten to the other day.
Speaker 1: Um uh, everything gonna be like it's like um Sun
Speaker 1: Mullins and it's like all about being in l A.
Speaker 1: It's like she grew up in the city stars the choice.
Speaker 1: It's like some experience through big parties. It's literally like
Speaker 1: a bad Jack Nicholson impression. Literally is okay. So Lewis
Speaker 1: for tell, this is really the first plan I don't
Speaker 1: think so, Hony, You've done popped the hell off about
Speaker 1: Chelsea c I feel like this isn't really my art form.
Speaker 1: But we'll see how I go. I don't think they're
Speaker 1: going to We almost never know what we're doing until
Speaker 1: seconds before, and that's beautiful. And this a moment in
Speaker 1: time is Lewis for tells. I don't think so, honey,
Speaker 1: his time starts now. I don't think so, honey, starring
Speaker 1: Jessica Alba. About the price of razor blades, Honey, you
Speaker 1: want to ruin? You want to ruin a trip to Target.
Speaker 1: Take a look at the gilette three section, walk on in. Also,
Speaker 1: let me just say, I know it sound like Walter
Speaker 1: math how complaining about the price of things right now,
Speaker 1: But there's something about going to Target where I'm getting
Speaker 1: my berries, bananas, my five ninety nine copy of Airplane
Speaker 1: or whatever I need at Target. And then here comes
Speaker 1: here comes like seasonal to pression setting in as I
Speaker 1: walk in and need to cut hair off my face.
Speaker 1: And then you go to the razor section. There's what
Speaker 1: sixteen of them in a package and they cost Let
Speaker 1: me just say something about you ever going like buy
Speaker 1: a set of knives and they're like nineteen dollars. If
Speaker 1: I'm wrong, knives are larger razor blades. Correct, it makes
Speaker 1: no sense. And then when you get the razor blades,
Speaker 1: you need someone from Target to get them off the
Speaker 1: thing for you. So they come and bring like the
Speaker 1: Jaws of Life or whatever to get them off the shelf.
Speaker 1: And you can tell they're thinking under their breath, this
Speaker 1: is the worst deal in the store. And you have
Speaker 1: to sit by them and you spend eighty eight dollars
Speaker 1: because you just want your neck to look fine. I mean,
Speaker 1: and that's your neck looks amazing. I'm wearing a level
Speaker 1: of cover. I'm like Greta Garbo on my neck. Well,
Speaker 1: first of all, there has to be a discussion about
Speaker 1: what needs the Jaws of Life in a convenience store
Speaker 1: and what does it yes like why it's like a
Speaker 1: string of thefts regarding it, and it's whatever fits onto
Speaker 1: like the little sticks that the thing that has the
Speaker 1: cut out that looks like a coat hanger. It's whatever
Speaker 1: can fit onto that because that's the most easily shoplifted thing.
Speaker 1: I guess I don't know. This is my like really terrible,
Speaker 1: like my movie The Hide Them yes, the thing is like,
Speaker 1: but yes, but I totally agree with you. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: completely and I'm saying the alternatives off like Dollar Shave Club.
Speaker 1: It's like, girl, well that's to see that that that
Speaker 1: you know you're buying dull knives, like you know you're
Speaker 1: buying a bloody face, like if you go in there
Speaker 1: and do that, And honestly, I don't know, how are
Speaker 1: you guys sensitive and so like it actually really matters
Speaker 1: that you have good, good like shaving material. But the
Speaker 1: thing is like it really is expensive, Like it's it's
Speaker 1: like when you say fifty four dollars, you don't lie.
Speaker 1: And also those christ White strips are expensive too, and
Speaker 1: they're behind the there, behind the glass. Do you I'm
Speaker 1: sorry not to be a full East Coaster. Do you
Speaker 1: do people get seasonal depression here? I guess it's possible.
Speaker 1: I mean I don't have depression period, but you have
Speaker 1: seasonal effective Did you see season effective disorder? Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: sure there's a version of absolutely, of course there is.
Speaker 1: And I this is so stupid. I just I literally
Speaker 1: am here and I'm like it feels like June, I'm
Speaker 1: so much happier than I would be when I tell people,
Speaker 1: and I live here. I'm relieved to live here. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's just that that's my only That's where I'm coming
Speaker 1: from in terms of asking that I feel sad that
Speaker 1: you have to live in I feel kind of especially
Speaker 1: after this something about this day. It's maybe it's because
Speaker 1: I'm reading eve babbits. Maybe it's because I'm like just
Speaker 1: I'm like hanging out with people. I like, I'm just like, oh,
Speaker 1: I I like it here, and I kind of prefer
Speaker 1: this over it. Just like life get a measurably easier here.
Speaker 1: And it's not even just the weather, which is a
Speaker 1: huge part of it, but it's also like, um, the
Speaker 1: idea that you actually can relax. Like I remember when
Speaker 1: I was living in New York. If I didn't have
Speaker 1: like four or five things on my calendar in a day,
Speaker 1: I feel like it was a failure. Now if I
Speaker 1: do one thing or two things, maybe like I feel
Speaker 1: like it was a successful day because the work life
Speaker 1: balance actually just allows itself to take place here in
Speaker 1: Los Angeles are probably anywhere oversides in New York. Because
Speaker 1: I'm very susceptible to foam, to foam o oh my god,
Speaker 1: oh my god, am I susceptible to phoo. It's like
Speaker 1: the shame of my life. Yeah, so living in the
Speaker 1: damn party tonight that I don't really want to go
Speaker 1: to you, but I guess I'm like, I got nothing
Speaker 1: else to do. And the only reason I'm gonna feel
Speaker 1: okay with not going is because I know I'd be
Speaker 1: miserable tomorrow if I did. But it's like usually like
Speaker 1: if I know that a bunch of people are gathered
Speaker 1: somewhere and I'm not there, it does like chat my ass.
Speaker 1: I don't know, Yeah, same, I know I won't have
Speaker 1: that much fun, but I go. I mean minus specifically
Speaker 1: about like sexualized gay events, which is crazy because there
Speaker 1: was no more renewable resource on Earth than gay. You
Speaker 1: couldn't you can't possibly be missing over there. Yes there's
Speaker 1: some over there, but there's something about like where were
Speaker 1: we at last weekend? What was that thing called Pegasus?
Speaker 1: It's like when if you didn't go, you'd feel crazy,
Speaker 1: and then you go and you're like feel insane, like
Speaker 1: I shouldn't be here, bags of meat flopping out, and
Speaker 1: I'm just like, this is the craziest ever I wrote
Speaker 1: that song characterized it that way. Well, I'm so sorry
Speaker 1: about that. You didn't get the nomination. Diane Warren again
Speaker 1: sneak and Beyonce sorry had a campaign zero and got
Speaker 1: the nom and Gaga had a campaign a million. But
Speaker 1: she is an Oscar winner, She's a multiple, She's had
Speaker 1: three nominations to still it happens to you. Oh, you're right,
Speaker 1: I can't believe I just missed that. And I'm saying,
Speaker 1: like this House of Gucci would have been her fourth
Speaker 1: Oscar nomination, right right, and you and you the the
Speaker 1: the I feel like idea that's out there is that
Speaker 1: Lady Guga is brand new to movies, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. It's like it still feels that way, like
Speaker 1: she's like it's an impostor here, it's a it's a
Speaker 1: it's a share narrative, and like it kind of kind
Speaker 1: of fits neatly into that. But I think, like, period,
Speaker 1: point blank, she's one of the most bankable. Yes now
Speaker 1: that she's had two hits, because Stars was a massive
Speaker 1: hit and House of Gucci in the COVID era, I
Speaker 1: think it's the highest grossing what they're calling adult drama
Speaker 1: of the year. Like she is the only name you
Speaker 1: can put over She's one of the only names you
Speaker 1: can put over a movie and like expect people to
Speaker 1: show up like that ain't happening with Jennifer Lawrence necessarily. Sure,
Speaker 1: so apparently everybody on Earth batch don't look up. I
Speaker 1: like to say I underestimated the math that made that happen,
Speaker 1: which is everybody. It's a movie you would want to
Speaker 1: watch with your parents over Christmas, actually, which is sup offensive. Yeah,
Speaker 1: oh my god, And I will say, have we talked
Speaker 1: about this already? We don't have to get into get
Speaker 1: into it. The conversation around and look up was like
Speaker 1: led me to believe that it is one of it
Speaker 1: was going to be one of the worst movies I've
Speaker 1: ever seen in my life. Fine it, Yes, fine, I
Speaker 1: would say a punch up on the jokes and then
Speaker 1: minutes and do you know what. I would actually get
Speaker 1: rid of the Leonardo DiCaprio character because it was all
Speaker 1: about his impotent rage, which was expected, like that's the
Speaker 1: thing we don't want from it at a McKay movie.
Speaker 1: Whereas if it was just about the Jennifer Lawrence character,
Speaker 1: I think it would have been a little less hitting
Speaker 1: you over the head. Yeah, Like had it been character
Speaker 1: more sorry when he came in at two hours and
Speaker 1: forty five minutes into the movie. I was like, we
Speaker 1: can't do this because you know, he's going to require
Speaker 1: a screen time, Like I can't, I'm done. But like,
Speaker 1: had it been about her as a student maybe trying
Speaker 1: to convince her department and convinced, like had it been
Speaker 1: about her singular mission to convince the larger populist that
Speaker 1: this was something to um, you know, maybe it would
Speaker 1: have felt more based in character and less based in
Speaker 1: like isn't everyone in the world stupid? Because Bones at
Speaker 1: a very really good point, which is that was so
Speaker 1: cynical about the cynicism, that just contributed to the cynicism.
Speaker 1: It was like that the satire thing of like if
Speaker 1: it doesn't have a clear object or target, than like
Speaker 1: it just contributes to the thing that it's trying to. Like,
Speaker 1: what it was missing was an actual mission of a
Speaker 1: protagonist and any heart in it, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Like that futile and Leo's character was only there as
Speaker 1: a way to like have these characters access like news
Speaker 1: media and the president and all this stuff like that
Speaker 1: was the I guess, I guess that's the only reason
Speaker 1: why Leo's character existed in that movie. Yeah, well, sorry,
Speaker 1: I didn't mean to bring up like a mean Listen.
Speaker 1: I actually love that we barely touched on it, because
Speaker 1: maybe that means it won't win. Some people are saying
Speaker 1: it is best Picture. Absolutely not well, I mean we've
Speaker 1: seen low rated movies like by critics. Honestly, no when
Speaker 1: parisite wins Best Picture, I don't think you can have
Speaker 1: a year where don't look up when's best Picture. Personally,
Speaker 1: that being said, green Book did win, I'm which is weird.
Speaker 1: You know what, though people did not like Roma, whereas
Speaker 1: I'm not really hearing the blowback about Drive my Car
Speaker 1: or Power of the Dog. I think Driving my Car
Speaker 1: could be one to watch. I see it. Anyways, Wow,
Speaker 1: what full fucking five episode of Lost Culture? Amazing did
Speaker 1: not disappoint. He's pointing at me, thank you so much
Speaker 1: for coming. I couldn't have had a better time. So
Speaker 1: excited to be here. Oh my god? O end every
Speaker 1: so with the song Dude do Do Do Do do
Speaker 1: the biggest pop dude do do? What good if this
Speaker 1: was like a gay song like do do Dude Do do?
Speaker 1: Tea cloud dancer makes coming up? Oh my god, we
Speaker 1: didn't even talk about Shery shepherds filling for Wendy bolliums
Speaker 1: by Yeah, Wendy Williams is out Charry Shepherd isn't anyway
Speaker 1: think about that by