1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:05,200 Speaker 1: Look mad oh, I see you. Why look over there? 2 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:13,400 Speaker 1: How is that culture? Yes? Goodness, the noms are in, 3 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:16,560 Speaker 1: the norms are in, and I mean we are really 4 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 1: would you say, I feel like we're prioritizing this episode. Listen, 5 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:23,840 Speaker 1: let's just say something. Peek behind the curtain, dot org, 6 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:27,319 Speaker 1: dot biz. We actually are backlogging right now. Okay, but 7 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 1: this episode put to the top of the heat because 8 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 1: we have to discuss the numbs and we I mean, okay, 9 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:33,559 Speaker 1: I want to answer a little bit more. But we 10 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 1: couldn't have had a better guest for this, the most 11 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 1: highly anticipated guest and Lost Cultures I've when I look 12 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 1: through the mentions and confession time, sometimes I just looked 13 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 1: at them. I see what the girls are saying. Sometimes 14 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:50,159 Speaker 1: I even dangn to type into the search bar and 15 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 1: Twitter the words lost culture just to see what they're 16 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:56,280 Speaker 1: sort of saying quotation marks, just to make sure that 17 00:00:56,280 --> 00:01:00,120 Speaker 1: they were paired together and so what they're saying as 18 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 1: they want our guests on the show, and I agree, 19 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 1: But we're waiting for this ripe moment of in person 20 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 1: and just in the throes of the nams which are out, 21 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 1: and so this is the moment where we really get 22 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 1: into it. But I want to say something, and I 23 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:18,120 Speaker 1: want to pose this question to you. Did we jinx 24 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 1: it for Ruth and for Gaga? We may have no, 25 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 1: but Gaga was that was the curse of Patricia. It 26 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:28,759 Speaker 1: was sort of akin to when the flies were sent 27 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 1: to Gaga by Patricia. You know about this, of course, 28 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 1: So Patrizia sent a cloud of flies to Gaga. Sort 29 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:36,760 Speaker 1: of a bad omen. I think that just really she 30 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:39,400 Speaker 1: flew too close to the sun on this one. Didn't 31 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:43,120 Speaker 1: get the numb. But I think that we sort of 32 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 1: went so hard in on the last episode, being like, 33 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 1: it's we gotta see her get the nam We want 34 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 1: this media narrative because I personally we wanted more of her, 35 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 1: not not I heard I got it. I don't. I 36 00:01:56,920 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 1: did not check Twitter on the day, But it's seems 37 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 1: like there was a lot of celebration around her getting snubbed. 38 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 1: There was, and there was equal equal parts fury. Oh 39 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 1: the fury was so funny, like people really being hyperbolic 40 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:13,520 Speaker 1: about a little monsters, mostly being like, this is the 41 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 1: worst thing that's ever ever happened ever. And I'm actually 42 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 1: on record as saying there's that. I think she's better 43 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 1: in Gucci than she is in Stars Born, because I 44 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:25,520 Speaker 1: want to see her be insane. Yeah, but my but 45 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 1: I also understand, sure best actress is crowded and she 46 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 1: just got the bump. It's it's fine, it's fine. And um, 47 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 1: have you heard this rumor that she's doing that. She's 48 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 1: rumored to be doing the new Top Gun Maverick song 49 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 1: like to take My Breath Away successor, And I feel like, 50 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:44,639 Speaker 1: take My breath By kind of like you wouldn't think 51 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 1: it's like a matches with that movie, but I feel 52 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 1: like she would write something so powerful. To take My 53 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:52,960 Speaker 1: Breath Away from Top Gun is one of the best 54 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:55,359 Speaker 1: movie songs I think, and I don't think. I don't 55 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:58,919 Speaker 1: think people would disagree because you know you think Top Gun, 56 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:01,680 Speaker 1: you don't think that. But the love scene, iconic love scene, 57 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 1: the iconic love scene. God, do you think God has 58 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 1: another shallow in her like such like a huge I 59 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:09,680 Speaker 1: never bet against her in terms of how much space 60 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 1: she can take up and what she can do. I 61 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 1: actually look, it's unpopular opinion, but if she had gotten nominated, 62 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:19,240 Speaker 1: I'd have been like, cool, I get it. Good for her, Yeah, 63 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 1: I just said good for her. But there's there's that 64 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 1: it didn't happen. Didn't happen, and so we're gonna move on. 65 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:30,519 Speaker 1: But first we're going to discuss really the first coffee 66 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 1: and it's actually Ruler Culture number thirty three, but first coffee. UM, 67 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 1: I really couldn't have a better guest to sort of 68 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 1: go through the topical nature of the Oscar nominations and 69 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 1: so much more. Um. This is truly, I mean, it's 70 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 1: so funny that we have a pop culture podcast and 71 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 1: I really have no business. We have no business really 72 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 1: doing it. This is someone who has all the business 73 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 1: in the world doing it. In fact, they actually got 74 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 1: to win the award UM from I Heart Radio are 75 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 1: very own, UM are very network for best pop Culture 76 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 1: Podcast and Lost Coach Rees has actually went home on unrewarded, 77 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 1: undecorated for Best Comedy. It's fine, they deserve to win. 78 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:16,159 Speaker 1: I think there were we were probably miscategorized in the 79 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 1: first place. We're up, we're comedy podcasts. We're up against 80 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 1: smartness and who else I would call us a comedy 81 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 1: podcast before I call us a pop culture podcast. Here 82 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:28,479 Speaker 1: we are saying, like, you know, Lady Gaga deserves you 83 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 1: know what I mean, The funniest fast than the layout. Well, so, 84 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:35,480 Speaker 1: he's a writer on Jimmy Kimmelive. You often see him 85 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 1: on camera. He was text up this very recently and 86 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 1: looking good, looking good. No one can say now we 87 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:43,920 Speaker 1: can say no and the co host of the Keep 88 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 1: It Podcast award winning keep It Podcast winner of Best 89 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 1: Pop Culture Podcasts from the I Heart Radio Podcast Rewards. 90 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:54,720 Speaker 1: Maybe one day, you know, one day will taste, will 91 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 1: taste the flavor taste victory. I feel, Susan Lucci vibes 92 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:02,280 Speaker 1: my own and my own sort of wreck track record. 93 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 1: Do you love that for us? No, give us award. 94 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 1: I've been saying it, like give or us individually, give 95 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 1: you you. You You will probably get anob soon. I feel like, okay, 96 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:19,279 Speaker 1: we'll cut that out. We'll get that. Don't truly like 97 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 1: this is a moment in time. It's a moment for 98 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:24,359 Speaker 1: our readers. It's a moment for us to welcome the 99 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 1: one and only. Let's welcome to your ears, Louis virtul 100 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 1: Oh my god. The whole thing about awards snubbies YouTube 101 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:35,559 Speaker 1: fell in death death ears because I am an award winner. 102 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 1: So't you can't relate and you do just it's a 103 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:40,839 Speaker 1: different frequency of speech. Like, did you literally did not 104 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:42,720 Speaker 1: hear it? Right? No, I was like looking out the window. 105 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 1: It was really peaceful. I feel as though, well, really, 106 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 1: I've already been snubbed for best Reality Competition host for 107 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 1: the show everyone watched Hot Hot Dog. Um, so that 108 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:55,480 Speaker 1: is in your future. So it's like, let's keep track 109 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:57,479 Speaker 1: of that. And by the way, there are very few 110 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:00,480 Speaker 1: queer on a reason that category. I want to say, really, 111 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 1: Eichner was the first. Maybe he was in game show 112 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 1: host for the Street. Originally it changed categories a couple 113 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 1: of times, but I remember realizing he was the first 114 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 1: gay person to be and it's such a gay genre, 115 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 1: and now RuPaul has kind of eaten them all up. 116 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:18,720 Speaker 1: At the time they're done with him, they'll never give 117 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 1: it to another queer again, right, Yeah, so that'll be 118 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 1: it for that No, because he's like the John larra 119 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:27,279 Speaker 1: Cette of that category. I just like, when my references 120 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 1: are going to continue to be studying up to date. 121 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:33,679 Speaker 1: Someone said someone someone said when they found out Louis 122 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 1: was coming on the podcast, they go, it's gonna be like, 123 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. Three Original Screenplay nominees come 124 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:43,280 Speaker 1: on the right stuff. I wonder if you would have one. 125 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:47,279 Speaker 1: I mean, this is I truly feel like I'm about 126 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 1: to be schooled. I always feel like I learned something whenever, 127 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 1: whenever I just I'm sponge around Lewis. Oh, that's incredibly bad. 128 00:06:55,400 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 1: They are definitely smarter than I. Absolutely that I know him. 129 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:04,719 Speaker 1: It's okay, great, I think I really this is, this is, 130 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 1: This is a wonderful moment for for for the reader, 131 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 1: for us. Um, okay, well, what are your should just 132 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 1: get in Twitter? Lewis, what is your sort of feedback? 133 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 1: Your your SoundBite for for for the numbs? Well, okay, 134 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 1: the Gaga snub to me feels like when Jennifer Aniston 135 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 1: didn't get it for Ka, which is to say, there 136 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 1: are so many people in the Academy. I'm sorry, Like 137 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 1: I don't mean to be a shill for the Academy, 138 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 1: but they're going to vote for the better performances. It 139 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 1: kind of seemed like everyone thought that was one of them. Though, Yeah, 140 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 1: because of all the precursors at that said, um, when 141 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 1: you said she was better in that movie than she 142 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 1: wasn't a Star is Born, I didn't hate that observation 143 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 1: because in A Stars Born, the whole I think we 144 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 1: gave it to her because she seemed so relaxed most 145 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 1: of doing a Gaga stick and we were surprised by that. 146 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 1: But that's not the same thing as being a brilliant 147 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 1: actor really, and as I saw somebody on Twitter say, 148 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 1: it sort of felt like they had trouble scraping together 149 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:57,120 Speaker 1: great takes of her, you know, because yeah, you know, 150 00:07:57,200 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 1: for the just think you know, where Bradley Cooper is 151 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 1: doing some hard acting and she's doing some reacting to him. Yes, 152 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 1: which I mean I do think in like a in 153 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 1: like a romantic drama duet as it were, like, is 154 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 1: a lot. But I think I think, honestly you might 155 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 1: be onto something with with a star is born. I 156 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 1: think we were all surprised she could drop in at all, 157 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, because she's so exists in 158 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 1: this mcgreet surreal. What are we to initially describe as 159 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 1: magreed surreal? I think it was the plot of and 160 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:35,960 Speaker 1: and just like that you said it was surreal, I said, 161 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 1: it's it's mcgreed. Yeah, And so we were were describing 162 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 1: all these things as agreed surreal. But like, because she's 163 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:44,080 Speaker 1: so on another planet screaming during like you know, her 164 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:47,200 Speaker 1: Vegas residency is whatever, and then you see her. Actually, 165 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:49,960 Speaker 1: I think she's one of those celebrities who I didn't 166 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 1: know what she actually looked like for the first like 167 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 1: seven years of her career, do you know what I mean? 168 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:57,679 Speaker 1: And so then to see her give like a dropped 169 00:08:57,679 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 1: in relaxed performance and all access a part of her 170 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 1: that we know. I think A Star is Born was 171 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 1: the vehicle for her star. It was the perfect alignment 172 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:10,440 Speaker 1: of we had no idea she could. That's what it was, 173 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 1: and then she was Yeah. And also you know, it 174 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 1: also is tailored specifically to her gifts. I mean, you 175 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 1: know what I mean, She's going to perform shallow. And 176 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:20,720 Speaker 1: one thing I always say, like a rubric that I 177 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 1: often say, which I think I've said to you both, 178 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:25,440 Speaker 1: is when it comes to the Oscars, what I am 179 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 1: interested in is could anyone else have done it right 180 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:33,079 Speaker 1: like this? And I genuinely feel like with A Star 181 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 1: is Born, maybe no one else could have done it 182 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 1: like that. And for House of Gucci, think someone could 183 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 1: have my yeah, I absolutely think yes. And something that's 184 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 1: that's sort of dawning. Let me now, and I'm sure 185 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:46,840 Speaker 1: everyone's already thought of this, but it's like that movie 186 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 1: is and the press tour that was super Smash Brothers. 187 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:51,560 Speaker 1: It was I mean, I mean it was all these 188 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 1: people fighting for a different tone. But for her, I 189 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:57,679 Speaker 1: feel like that did not service her. UM bid for 190 00:09:57,679 --> 00:10:00,679 Speaker 1: for for Award season because it was just such a 191 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 1: chaotic movie and that you're she doesn't really hold the 192 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 1: center because she's like not, she's missing from like the 193 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:09,679 Speaker 1: last third of it. You know. Yeah, it's weird to 194 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:12,200 Speaker 1: nominate her for lead for that reason. I will say 195 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 1: I do think she's the best thing in the movie, 196 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:15,719 Speaker 1: which is crazy to say. I think I was talking 197 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 1: about this on Keep It This Week again. I mean, 198 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 1: like Jeremy Irons is maybe in my top three favorite actors, 199 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 1: and ever sucks compared my my the part that And 200 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 1: I really was laughing during House of Gucci because I 201 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 1: don't think it's good, Like I think it's like a 202 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:32,080 Speaker 1: first draft, and the note of don't make it about 203 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 1: the Gucci Empire, make it about her was just missed. Um. 204 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 1: But when he and the accents of it all is 205 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:42,679 Speaker 1: a whole conversation dinner theater murder miss when they're sitting 206 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 1: at lunch and he's talking in his like like Italian 207 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 1: accent but really British. He goes, how do you say? 208 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:53,080 Speaker 1: And I'm like, okay, so what's the reality of it? 209 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 1: Because if we're it' if we're Italian. Yeah, if we're 210 00:10:56,640 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 1: Italian but we're speaking in an Italian accent for the 211 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:02,679 Speaker 1: for of for the audience, then you would not say 212 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:05,840 Speaker 1: how do you say? You were not searched for a word. 213 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 1: It reminds me have you ever seen the movie Children 214 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 1: of a Lesser God that Marley Matlin wants? Okay in 215 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:14,680 Speaker 1: the movie she it's actually there are really good parts. 216 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 1: Obviously William Hurts a really good actor too, but whenever 217 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:20,440 Speaker 1: she does sign language, he says it for the camera 218 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:22,959 Speaker 1: and You're like, this completely takes it out, Like this 219 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 1: is not reality at all. Oh, I understand what you're saying, 220 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 1: and so does everyone watching. Yeah, like it's a rebus. 221 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 1: He's solving for us. Do you say? And I was like, see, 222 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 1: this is Jeremy Irons just trying to give it something. 223 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:39,280 Speaker 1: But ultimately, I guess there's a part of me that 224 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:41,560 Speaker 1: like just wants it all to be fun, and I 225 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:43,839 Speaker 1: think it is more fun with her, and then the 226 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 1: part of me that's like, okay, let's actually nominate the 227 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:50,600 Speaker 1: best performances, Like it is thrilled to see Penelope CRUs there, yea, 228 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:53,079 Speaker 1: even Jessica Chastain, who I think we've a little been 229 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 1: a little bit down on over the years. When you 230 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:58,040 Speaker 1: take movies called The Zookeeper's Wife, you don't want friends, 231 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 1: you know. And so when she does a great job 232 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:04,960 Speaker 1: in this movie where she's you know, under like yards 233 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:08,280 Speaker 1: of makeup and she's still great, I really am like, 234 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:11,319 Speaker 1: all right, Jessica, Yeah, did you see didn't say? Guys, 235 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 1: I just gotta be upfront this. I'm very illiterate this year. 236 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 1: But and so this is also why I am like 237 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:21,320 Speaker 1: maybe a surrogate for the audience, for the reader at 238 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 1: home who maybe has also has not seen many of 239 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 1: the movies this season. You know, what's the thing is, 240 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 1: It's like so many of the movies now are immediately 241 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 1: available on Netflix and on Apple TVA plus with coda, 242 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 1: so that it's like it's they're they're right there available 243 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:36,200 Speaker 1: and yet and it's it's that thing where it's like 244 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:40,319 Speaker 1: the buffet of options. It's like you you don't like, yeah, 245 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 1: it's like I enjoyed the thrill of seeing that that 246 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 1: option is there and exactly, I did see the Eyes 247 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 1: of Tammy Faye and I loved it. I loved it actually, 248 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 1: and I it's a Wikipedia movie, but she nails that. 249 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:57,680 Speaker 1: She's she's just went, went, and you said this, it 250 00:12:57,760 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 1: was like she really is. Actually, I think a lot 251 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:03,680 Speaker 1: more effective when she's able to like, when she's there's 252 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 1: jokes for her to play and there's big choices for 253 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:08,360 Speaker 1: her to make. I liked her in Zero Dark thirty, 254 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 1: but I never thought she would win that year against 255 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 1: a bigger, you know, more lovable performance, I guess, but 256 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 1: in this and I'm looking at the five nominees like 257 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 1: and I don't, and she hasn't won much, and I 258 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 1: think people were sort of surprised by the nomination despite 259 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:24,440 Speaker 1: the support that she's had all season long. I think 260 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 1: if she were to walk away with the Oscar, I 261 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 1: wouldn't be mad at that. I don't think anybody would 262 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 1: know because also it's like a very traditional Best Actress 263 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 1: when you know, not only is it a public figure, 264 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 1: it's an iconic public like a hard look to pull off, 265 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:43,920 Speaker 1: a specific voice, a specific caricature esque person with the soul, 266 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 1: you know, so it's not completely wacky there's something dropped 267 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:51,199 Speaker 1: in an emotional you know, so typical Baits stuff, which is, wow, 268 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 1: this was a transformation, which I think is so overrated 269 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 1: a lot of the time, especially you know what I mean, 270 00:13:56,679 --> 00:13:58,679 Speaker 1: Like we we fall for that so much, like when 271 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 1: it's like with the Jared Letto of at All. My 272 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:05,520 Speaker 1: favorite quote unquote snub is him like I would have 273 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:07,600 Speaker 1: not been able to stomach that, which moments me. The 274 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:09,959 Speaker 1: one nomination that movie did get was Best Makeup, which 275 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:13,640 Speaker 1: I like because it made it harder to see the actics. Well, 276 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 1: did you see the whole story? Um, apparently I think 277 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 1: it's makeup and hair right, hair got nominated for hows 278 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 1: a Gucci and the hair the hair that the head 279 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 1: hair or whatever. Gaga's person and at Leascott apparently did 280 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 1: not let him do anything and he had to fight 281 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 1: to the nail for every single big swing in that movie. 282 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 1: And like it's very sort of vindicating that he's one 283 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 1: of the only people who got nominated for the film 284 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 1: for someone who's like fully like obstructed like at every turn, 285 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 1: but who is the favorite to win Best Actress this year. 286 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 1: Then it is weird. Olivia is People also hate that 287 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 1: movie on Twitter and everybody being like, you know, when 288 00:14:58,240 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 1: I was four, Lucy is the one who put me 289 00:14:59,920 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 1: to bed every night, scary big eyebrows or something. You know, 290 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 1: people are fucking babies. I would I would say, having 291 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:13,560 Speaker 1: seen both Nicole and Olivia and Jessica, actually have I 292 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 1: seen everything? Yeah, yes, And so I mean personally for me, 293 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 1: I think it could go anyway. I think we might 294 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:24,960 Speaker 1: see Olivia win again. I will also it's I think 295 00:15:25,120 --> 00:15:28,120 Speaker 1: people who love that movie value that it's not just 296 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 1: a difficult role. It says something about motherhood that movies 297 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 1: usually don't say. The only problem with that movie is 298 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:38,080 Speaker 1: it doesn't end on a note that's like satisfyingly crazy 299 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:40,600 Speaker 1: for what the movie is doing. It feels a little soft, 300 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 1: so you can even forget some of the buld choices 301 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 1: the movie makes you because and in the book, she 302 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 1: it's more it's a little bit less ambiguous that she's died. 303 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 1: Maybe she's in the hospital at the end of the 304 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 1: boy right, it's more. I think it's more ambiguous in 305 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 1: the film that yes, yes, you're right, you're right, you're right. 306 00:15:57,560 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 1: And you know what's an interesting thing is it's like 307 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 1: always remember I always my poll from that movie, Like 308 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 1: what I walk away thinking about is not Dakota Dakoda, 309 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 1: Like that's the supporting before. And I remember I was 310 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:14,360 Speaker 1: watching it and I texted our friends and I was like, 311 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 1: I don't get this Dakota performance. Like I was just 312 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 1: like it was like the first scene happening that you 313 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 1: meant the um No, I mean the Dakota. I mean 314 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 1: like that first scene where so in the movie, if 315 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 1: you haven't seen it, it's you know, Dakota's daughter. Dakota 316 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 1: is like this hot girl on the beach and like 317 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 1: Olivia sort of eyeing her like decos with her whole family. 318 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:37,680 Speaker 1: Olivia's alone, so she's sort of like seeing her like 319 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:40,400 Speaker 1: exist and she's this hot young mom on the beach 320 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 1: and she loses her daughter. Olivia finds the daughter brings 321 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 1: her back, and there's this scene where Dakota is thanking 322 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 1: Olivia for bringing her daughter back, and it's this bizarre 323 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 1: in the store by Olivia's chair, and Dakota comes over 324 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 1: and she's sort of like I just want to say thanks, 325 00:16:57,840 --> 00:17:00,160 Speaker 1: and I really like your beating suit and like and 326 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 1: it's like a little bit psycho sexual and I'm not 327 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 1: sure what it is. And then when the movie ended, 328 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:08,520 Speaker 1: and you see like her mood swing in the final 329 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:12,720 Speaker 1: scene where she spoiler alert skip fifteen seconds, spoiler alert 330 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 1: skip fifteen seconds, spoiler alert skip fifteen seconds fucking stabs 331 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 1: her that she is truly like, that's part of it. 332 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 1: That's sort of like irrational, sort of I don't know, 333 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:28,439 Speaker 1: like chemically imbalanced performance that she was giving is actually 334 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:32,440 Speaker 1: quite specific and something I walk away thinking about, whereas 335 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 1: Jesse Buckley maybe this is a testament interacting because she 336 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 1: is so dropped in and makes it look so easy. 337 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:41,320 Speaker 1: I just didn't walk away thinking of her and therefore 338 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:44,919 Speaker 1: would never have voted for her, and yet don't like 339 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:47,199 Speaker 1: that part of the movie. Really, I just don't think 340 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:50,440 Speaker 1: the movie needs backstory to explain Olivia. That was the 341 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:53,119 Speaker 1: That was the least like feminist choice of the storytelling 342 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:54,880 Speaker 1: to me. It's just like I just want to experience 343 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:58,719 Speaker 1: Olivia and her like weirdness and her approaching people and 344 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:01,760 Speaker 1: being suddenly hyper sex shull and like getting an Ed 345 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:05,160 Speaker 1: Harris's ear, which we've all done. They're related to that. Yes, 346 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 1: every scene should have been her watching this a movie 347 00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 1: and young at teenagers so good, Oh my god, because 348 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:16,120 Speaker 1: it's like and then maybe this has something about where 349 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:18,520 Speaker 1: where we all are in life. It's like, now I 350 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 1: identify with fucking upset about people being loud and not 351 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:23,440 Speaker 1: the young people having fun. I'm like, I'm with her. 352 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:26,080 Speaker 1: I'm with her, especially because nobody else in the theater 353 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:29,800 Speaker 1: is reacting, which is extra infurio. You have to react 354 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:31,919 Speaker 1: on their behalf to like you're helping them, but they 355 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:34,879 Speaker 1: don't want to be helped. Yes, yeah, then see you 356 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:37,879 Speaker 1: know what the Maggie Jill Maggie Jiel Maggie Joel n 357 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 1: I might have to stand. Yeah. I've been enjoying her 358 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:45,400 Speaker 1: uh like interviews with VF on YouTube about this. Yeah, 359 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:49,120 Speaker 1: and also I've recently become obsessed with her architectural digest 360 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:52,159 Speaker 1: tour with Peter Star's Guard where they have a crazy 361 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:55,879 Speaker 1: gigantic brownstone in New York And I said this on Twitter. 362 00:18:56,119 --> 00:18:58,640 Speaker 1: There's like they enter a room and there's just three 363 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:01,800 Speaker 1: colonial tables and they say, well, here's where the kids play. 364 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:05,880 Speaker 1: It's like, what planet are we on? What did they do? 365 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:10,160 Speaker 1: They're so funny that the just like negotiate their home 366 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:11,960 Speaker 1: and like be like, well they want to see it, it 367 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:14,040 Speaker 1: it must be amazing and like to talk about their 368 00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:16,239 Speaker 1: taste as if it's like, yeah, I had this my thing. 369 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:19,000 Speaker 1: My favorite one that we talked about this is Vanessa Hudgins. 370 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:25,560 Speaker 1: Something happens in that, Okay, Vanessa Hudgins. I'm sure she's 371 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:28,640 Speaker 1: a lovely girl. She says, she's like, I have these 372 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:31,439 Speaker 1: classic French love stories on the shelf. First of all 373 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:35,159 Speaker 1: the classics stories, they are the newest possible editions like 374 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:37,440 Speaker 1: that you would buy it like urban outfits. And it's 375 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 1: like it's like Madam Bovary. She just like she saw words, 376 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:45,919 Speaker 1: she saw Madam and she said, that's that's it. That's friends. 377 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:48,639 Speaker 1: That from my house. The only person I think who 378 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:53,320 Speaker 1: has a relatively relatable a D video is maybe Kirston 379 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:56,959 Speaker 1: because she's she's kind of standing there with her interior 380 00:19:56,960 --> 00:19:58,520 Speaker 1: designer and they're just being like yeah, you know, like 381 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 1: it's just it's just her like having a conversation and 382 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:02,639 Speaker 1: she has a great taste, which, by the way, great 383 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 1: down to earth choice, having the design there and nowhere 384 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:10,720 Speaker 1: this oak tree I turned into a fireplace or whatever. Yeah, okay, 385 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:16,879 Speaker 1: so transitioning here okay, which which also so her V 386 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:20,199 Speaker 1: video of her career timeline I've watched I watched like 387 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 1: twenty times at this point, I'm like, there's the way 388 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 1: that hearing her talk about her work is so captivating 389 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:28,920 Speaker 1: to me. I'm like, it's a it's a full she's 390 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:31,800 Speaker 1: a mesmer. I'm like, I can just watch you just 391 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:33,960 Speaker 1: talk about how you do like dream. I've talked about 392 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:36,280 Speaker 1: the pot the dream work that she talked about. We're 393 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:39,960 Speaker 1: started fascinated by because it's really interesting like that she 394 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 1: would and yet I completely believe that she, no matter 395 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:47,919 Speaker 1: what it was, might inform her work that way on 396 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 1: the day because she is so and this is something 397 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:53,840 Speaker 1: I say a lot, but she's so specific in grounded 398 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:58,200 Speaker 1: and never puts herself before the film in a way 399 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:01,200 Speaker 1: where I'm like, Power of the Dog actually is the 400 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:04,200 Speaker 1: perfect first nomination for her because it is a great 401 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:10,160 Speaker 1: encapsulation of her understanding tone of her because and honestly, 402 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:12,400 Speaker 1: while she is a movie star well I'm sure she's 403 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:14,920 Speaker 1: been number one on dozens and dozens of call sheets, 404 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:18,080 Speaker 1: there is something to say about how she supports the 405 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 1: film she's in. And I don't think the Power of 406 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:25,440 Speaker 1: the Dog works unless you have that performance be exactly 407 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:28,080 Speaker 1: what it is not not to say that another actress 408 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:31,399 Speaker 1: couldn't do it. But but Power of the Dog, and 409 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 1: I've said this before, is about her anxiety and it 410 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 1: is about a battle for her life, and so you 411 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:40,800 Speaker 1: have to in those final minutes of the movie believe 412 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:43,880 Speaker 1: that either Cody Smith McPhee or Bennett Cumberback is gonna 413 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:47,880 Speaker 1: like triumph in this household. And you only care as 414 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:51,919 Speaker 1: much if you are really believing the build that is 415 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:56,400 Speaker 1: her anxiety and her break at that last scene where 416 00:21:56,440 --> 00:22:01,160 Speaker 1: she's collapsing, and I'm just like so and it really 417 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 1: is so dude to Jane Campion as well, But it's 418 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 1: such a genius performance and it's not showy. But I 419 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:09,199 Speaker 1: wish more performances like this would went on in the 420 00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:11,000 Speaker 1: way that I think The Lost Daughter ends on a 421 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 1: note that makes you forget what you saw. The end 422 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 1: of Power of the Dog makes you think her character 423 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:18,840 Speaker 1: was basically a red herring because it's ultimately all about 424 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 1: what Cody has done, so you forget, like you just 425 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:25,119 Speaker 1: think of her as drunk, right. But then but then 426 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:29,800 Speaker 1: it doesn't end on like her and Jesse Plemons walking 427 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:32,159 Speaker 1: back from the from the funeral, from the service, and 428 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:34,560 Speaker 1: it's Cody just kind of like check like looking from 429 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 1: his room and just like seeing that she's okay, curtively 430 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:39,879 Speaker 1: and just being like okay, like she's I've protected her 431 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 1: well because the movie begins with that with that voice, 432 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 1: So him being like, it's my job to protect my mother. 433 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:50,120 Speaker 1: What kind of some would I be if I did 434 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:52,600 Speaker 1: not do that? Um? This goes back to there's a 435 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:54,359 Speaker 1: lot of time I bring up the dreamwork. Um. She 436 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:57,719 Speaker 1: says that she loves that because there's no way that 437 00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:00,640 Speaker 1: she doesn't feel confident about enacting choice about an acting 438 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 1: choice if it's informed by her subconscious, which means she's 439 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 1: pretty in touch with her instruments, you know. And by 440 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:09,200 Speaker 1: the way, in an unpretentious way, like what you're talking 441 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:11,000 Speaker 1: about this video where she talks about her career and 442 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:14,680 Speaker 1: like the choices she made in what roles were difficult, etcetera. 443 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:18,199 Speaker 1: It's what Gaga wishes she could convey, you know, like 444 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 1: I'm I'm good at this job. I have methods that 445 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:25,879 Speaker 1: I pull from and I deliver something great. Lady Gaga 446 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:28,400 Speaker 1: wants to tell us she's doing that, but to hear 447 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:32,040 Speaker 1: Kris Kristen do it successfully is very reassuring because you 448 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 1: kind of, while listening to Gaga think oh, maybe all 449 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:37,280 Speaker 1: actors are secretly a little full of ship like, but no, 450 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:40,439 Speaker 1: she's not. She's not. She's not, she's not. Yeah, it 451 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:42,760 Speaker 1: comes from a real place that you can tell us something. 452 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 1: And I also think another thing about Kirsten Dunstay is 453 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:48,640 Speaker 1: we don't really super no too much about her as 454 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:51,360 Speaker 1: a person. We know about her through her work and 455 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:55,359 Speaker 1: she's given so many different kinds of versatile performances. But 456 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:57,400 Speaker 1: there was a moment there a few years ago where 457 00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:00,440 Speaker 1: she definitely had a hard moment. Let's pre Allen Collie. 458 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:04,000 Speaker 1: She checked into rehab after Spider Man three. She's who 459 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 1: I associate with Parrels Hilton dot com because she was 460 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:16,000 Speaker 1: I actually, unfortunately defend certain things about Pearrels Hilton in reuch. Yeah. 461 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 1: I mean it was in the moment in that time, 462 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:21,439 Speaker 1: it was what like it touched on something that we 463 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:23,919 Speaker 1: all like really responded to. I just feel like the 464 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:26,600 Speaker 1: way we covered celebrities changed forever after that, and I 465 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:29,720 Speaker 1: think we were needing something that was less stale. Again, 466 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:33,159 Speaker 1: I think someone like Juliana Ransick does hard work. I 467 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 1: think it's hard to be on a red carpet and 468 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:39,480 Speaker 1: say something novel about everybody it's super boring to see 469 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:42,240 Speaker 1: someone who has the same quote unquote enthusiastic take about 470 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 1: every celebrity. So I have somebody who covered daily news 471 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:46,960 Speaker 1: and be like, this person is full of ship, and 472 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:49,399 Speaker 1: then also on the contrary, be like, pay more attention 473 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:52,240 Speaker 1: to Madonna's choices, you know, Madonna like whatever, like picking 474 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:55,440 Speaker 1: favorites and being super adamant about it and informed about it. 475 00:24:55,560 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 1: That wasn't always in entertainment media. My thing about Kirsten too, 476 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:12,359 Speaker 1: is it is about like it's like you're saying with Gaga, 477 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:15,720 Speaker 1: Gaga is letting us know about all the work this is. 478 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:17,800 Speaker 1: And I think it's one of the reasons why we're 479 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:22,400 Speaker 1: so transfixed, so sort of like invested in this new 480 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:25,040 Speaker 1: thing she's rebut because you don't hear about her process, 481 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:27,400 Speaker 1: you know. And I'm so I've sort of been doing 482 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:30,080 Speaker 1: like a kirston a thon um in these last few 483 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 1: weeks because I'm loving this moment. And we did say 484 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:36,000 Speaker 1: on this podcast, I think it was like a year ago, 485 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:38,440 Speaker 1: it's like kirston kirst thinking we started beating the drum, 486 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:41,360 Speaker 1: not to say we're we're doing the credit, but like 487 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:44,960 Speaker 1: I think as a maybe it's even as a gay community. 488 00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:47,400 Speaker 1: It's like it's like it's been it's been bubbling under. 489 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:54,919 Speaker 1: I wouldn't happened, he would have loved performance. Yeah, so 490 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:57,240 Speaker 1: you're so you don't think she should win for Power 491 00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:59,480 Speaker 1: of the Dog. I'm on the fence. It's a weird 492 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:01,400 Speaker 1: category for me because again it's like, I don't even 493 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:03,639 Speaker 1: really know what I think of Jesse Buckley. I have 494 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:05,879 Speaker 1: to go and see the movie again. Basically, what's the 495 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 1: weirdest choice to me is Judy Dench in there, who 496 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 1: has an extremely small part in Belfest, though she is 497 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:14,280 Speaker 1: quote unquote the heart of the movie, so I kind 498 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:16,840 Speaker 1: of get it, but to vote for her over Katrina 499 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:20,399 Speaker 1: and that movie who has the significant emotional moment with 500 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:25,359 Speaker 1: the stakes feels I'm sorry mean. And also it's like negligent. 501 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 1: It's like, what do you mean, Like they clearly saw 502 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:30,879 Speaker 1: the movie. I was wondering if they didn't see the 503 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:33,359 Speaker 1: movie and they just thought, oh, well, Judy Dench plays Granny, 504 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:35,959 Speaker 1: so we've got to vote for her. That not by 505 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:40,399 Speaker 1: the way, I love Judy way, I'm not going to 506 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:42,840 Speaker 1: call her underrated, but people just assume she gives a 507 00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:45,680 Speaker 1: certain performance again and again, and it's like she's been 508 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:47,879 Speaker 1: solid for so long that you kind of just know 509 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:50,960 Speaker 1: it's like scandal. You could argue that no, right, the 510 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:53,680 Speaker 1: crazy choices she makes and they just all seem normal, 511 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:56,199 Speaker 1: because she's the most dropped in actor ever, you know, 512 00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:58,200 Speaker 1: dropped in by the way, a phrase I have totally 513 00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:00,679 Speaker 1: stolen from you and has infected my brain because I 514 00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:02,919 Speaker 1: have to remind myself all the time to be it exactly. 515 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:04,919 Speaker 1: It's a linguistic thing where it's like if you can 516 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:06,760 Speaker 1: name it, then you sort of live with it more. 517 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:08,760 Speaker 1: But um, I heard that you are very upset about 518 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:12,000 Speaker 1: with Mega. That's I mean, like like any reasonable fag, 519 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:15,240 Speaker 1: you know. But I said, that performance and this is 520 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 1: of course the highest compliment I can give, belongs in 521 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 1: the movie Carol, and that it's like it's about poise 522 00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:24,280 Speaker 1: and it's about um sort of like the chemistry that 523 00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:28,480 Speaker 1: comes with like sophistication, and yet there's also a tragic 524 00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 1: artifice there and you can see the cracks and but 525 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:34,359 Speaker 1: she's not playing the cracks like you have to search 526 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:37,560 Speaker 1: for them initially. And I just thought that was clearly 527 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:39,680 Speaker 1: the performance of the year, and everybody who watches that 528 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:42,400 Speaker 1: movie seemingly is like of course she's amazing, my Cara 529 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:46,840 Speaker 1: who is that? It is startling and honestly, like I 530 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:50,640 Speaker 1: didn't actually even though she's an Oscar nominee for Loving Um, 531 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:52,960 Speaker 1: which as a nomination I didn't know, you Revile, I 532 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:55,439 Speaker 1: hate that nomination. Yeah, And so it's just like, so 533 00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:57,280 Speaker 1: I thought it was a slam dunk because I was like, 534 00:27:57,320 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 1: if they nominated it for that, they'll certainly nominated her 535 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:03,120 Speaker 1: for this in a in a category where it felt 536 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:06,680 Speaker 1: like there were only a few sure things um her 537 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:08,840 Speaker 1: actually being one of them after all these precursors, and 538 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:12,360 Speaker 1: then when they didn't, it felt like, oh maybe they 539 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:15,800 Speaker 1: just and they did completely miss this movie. Yeah. Yeah, 540 00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:18,000 Speaker 1: Well it seems like this was this season in the 541 00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:21,600 Speaker 1: year where precursors meant nothing, and I think they mean more, nothing, 542 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:24,080 Speaker 1: more and more, which I'm happy about. I'm sick of 543 00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:26,399 Speaker 1: the like deluge of we already know what's going to 544 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:29,720 Speaker 1: happen weeks and weeks before the Oscars, like let's check 545 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:31,919 Speaker 1: gold Derby and see like where the needle is moved 546 00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:36,239 Speaker 1: and like where like does it ever meaningfully I don't know, 547 00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:40,280 Speaker 1: like predict these things. I don't know. Yeah, these things 548 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:43,719 Speaker 1: that they used to say meant everything. Don't anymore like 549 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:47,320 Speaker 1: they used to say, like when when a movie gets 550 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:50,800 Speaker 1: nominated for editing, it's certainly getting nominated for Best Picture, 551 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:53,000 Speaker 1: and it's like a precursor. And then I saw Tech 552 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:55,240 Speaker 1: Tech Boom get nominated for editing, and I'm like, well, 553 00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:58,200 Speaker 1: certainly in a year where there's ten nominees and a 554 00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:01,760 Speaker 1: leading actor contender, will a Ti Ti Boom in Best Picture? 555 00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:03,760 Speaker 1: Which I would have loved. I love tick tick Boom. 556 00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:05,400 Speaker 1: I thought it was really good and then it wasn't 557 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:08,840 Speaker 1: and I was just like, nothing means anything? Like what 558 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:12,400 Speaker 1: what about necessarily the editing of Tick tick Boom? Are 559 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:17,480 Speaker 1: you like, well, that's okay. You're a person to imagine 560 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 1: there's a ballot in front of you. Do you need 561 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:22,800 Speaker 1: to vote for Best Pictures because something got an editing nomination? No? 562 00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:26,160 Speaker 1: What are you talking? Like? What magical race of people 563 00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:28,760 Speaker 1: are you talking about? Who votes that way? It's like 564 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:31,440 Speaker 1: the thing do you see Dune? I did not see done. 565 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,760 Speaker 1: I'm telling you do know out of it. This is 566 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:36,440 Speaker 1: a lot going for it. But it's half a movie. 567 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:41,320 Speaker 1: It's half a movie laterally, and and so whatever. But like, certainly, 568 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:44,680 Speaker 1: if you're going to list the top five nominations it's 569 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:49,760 Speaker 1: getting certainly one is direction of Direction. I don't know 570 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:53,320 Speaker 1: why it wasn't there. It's just so interesting the way 571 00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:55,560 Speaker 1: these things shake out. Sometimes there is a magical race 572 00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:58,600 Speaker 1: of people, and it's people who have the Academy Showroom 573 00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:02,160 Speaker 1: app on the Apple TV. Yes, my friends, you know, 574 00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:04,880 Speaker 1: I learned about it. I learned about it through Jordan's 575 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:06,640 Speaker 1: and then I was and then I was at work 576 00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:09,240 Speaker 1: with someone who is on the Academy and he was like, oh, yeah, 577 00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:10,480 Speaker 1: I watched it on that and I was like, he's like, 578 00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:12,440 Speaker 1: I watched Drive my Car on the on the Academy. 579 00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:15,480 Speaker 1: I was like, you people are how dare you? How 580 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:18,040 Speaker 1: dare you like fucking way this in front of our face? 581 00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:23,040 Speaker 1: And you know, all those people have good TVs, great TVs, theaters. 582 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 1: Even even I just I just want to that's not 583 00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:29,120 Speaker 1: a password thing, is it? Like I'm sure there's like 584 00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:32,440 Speaker 1: four different authentication process you just gotta be or no, 585 00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:34,719 Speaker 1: someone in the Academy. No. But I'm saying even if 586 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:37,280 Speaker 1: you just it's not like an HBO like go password 587 00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:38,880 Speaker 1: thing where it's like I think you I think they 588 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:41,440 Speaker 1: probably authenticate you like four times over to make sure that, 589 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:44,400 Speaker 1: like it's just showing up. It's like Alias. Yeah, yeah, 590 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:48,320 Speaker 1: it's like alias, I'm certain that I'm this is ruined 591 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:52,040 Speaker 1: my media consumption, Like I I feel like I need 592 00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:53,720 Speaker 1: that or else they won't be happy. I don't know. 593 00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:56,080 Speaker 1: And it's so satisfying to scroll through. It's like, wow, 594 00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:58,000 Speaker 1: they're all here. They're all here. Don't have to go 595 00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:00,600 Speaker 1: through the mania of what's available where, or I'll go 596 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:04,440 Speaker 1: to this weird movie theater where like the popcorn is petrified. 597 00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:06,720 Speaker 1: You know. I will say when I was when I 598 00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:09,320 Speaker 1: was in New York, um and I had to cancel 599 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:11,320 Speaker 1: all my shows and like it was it was, Oh, 600 00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:15,280 Speaker 1: Macron was the new Beast. I was the only person 601 00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:19,040 Speaker 1: at Angelica and I saw like four of them like 602 00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:21,120 Speaker 1: right in a row because they have loved that. That's 603 00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:23,200 Speaker 1: my favorite time of year. Yeah, it really is fun. 604 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:25,680 Speaker 1: And I always go by myself, like in Zone and 605 00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:28,880 Speaker 1: that's how I saw being the Ricardo's Liquorice pizza a 606 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:31,840 Speaker 1: red rocket, which we loved, loved, I mean, did didn't 607 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:35,000 Speaker 1: get any love right well, he was. I just think 608 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:37,000 Speaker 1: it's a thing of people not seeing it. But then 609 00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:39,480 Speaker 1: again with the Academy app is that an excuse, and 610 00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:44,240 Speaker 1: also he lost a five huge stars with like sterling reputations, 611 00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:47,160 Speaker 1: so that's actor's wild. I think that if I had 612 00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:49,719 Speaker 1: a gun to my head and I for SAG, I 613 00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:51,560 Speaker 1: do have the gun to my head. I think I'm 614 00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:54,719 Speaker 1: gonna vote for King Richard for ensemble and vote for 615 00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:58,720 Speaker 1: Andrew Garfield for actor. I feel good about that. I 616 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:01,080 Speaker 1: feel like his main compety Titian in best act. I 617 00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:03,400 Speaker 1: guess people still think Will Smith's gonna take it. I don't. 618 00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:05,880 Speaker 1: I feel like people aren't talking about that performance in 619 00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:08,400 Speaker 1: regards to that movie. Even I feel like people are 620 00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:11,720 Speaker 1: more into Anganu Ellis, who has an extremely small part. 621 00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:14,680 Speaker 1: Have you seen King Richard? Okay, you gotta you know 622 00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:16,760 Speaker 1: it's good. I mean like it's a sports film and 623 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:18,600 Speaker 1: you would think it would put you to sleep right 624 00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:20,880 Speaker 1: away because you know what's coming, right, But it's not. 625 00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:23,400 Speaker 1: There's something about it that feels very organic to what 626 00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:27,080 Speaker 1: that story was, that is well expressed, and the girls 627 00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:29,760 Speaker 1: are great. Right by the way, there's an interview with 628 00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:31,600 Speaker 1: one of those girls, the girl who plays Venus, her 629 00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:35,800 Speaker 1: name is I think yes, her talking about oh yeah, 630 00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:37,840 Speaker 1: I learned how to hit the ball with my wrist 631 00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:39,800 Speaker 1: broken because she hits it with her wrist broken. I 632 00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:43,120 Speaker 1: was like, what you're like, I think she's a righty 633 00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:46,040 Speaker 1: and Venus is a lefty or something like that. She 634 00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:48,240 Speaker 1: she did learn to do it with her other hands. 635 00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:50,760 Speaker 1: That's pretty cool and it's crazy. And there's a moment 636 00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:55,080 Speaker 1: in King Richard where she realizes that she's won something, 637 00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:57,200 Speaker 1: or she she realizes something is happening and she goes 638 00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:58,840 Speaker 1: to the mirror, looks at herself in the mirror and 639 00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:01,880 Speaker 1: like has a celebration. And I'm like, that young actor 640 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:05,000 Speaker 1: is someone to watch. And there's a moment later because 641 00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:07,800 Speaker 1: a lot of them the movie is based on Venus's rise, 642 00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:10,200 Speaker 1: and so Serena, who as we all know, went on 643 00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:12,320 Speaker 1: to become the greatest player ever. Like, there's a moment 644 00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:14,840 Speaker 1: where the actress playing Serena sort of sitting there standing 645 00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:16,640 Speaker 1: at the court and Will Smith goes over to her. 646 00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:19,880 Speaker 1: I I think this is the best original screenplay of 647 00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:22,640 Speaker 1: the year. I I do. And so he goes over 648 00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:25,120 Speaker 1: to her and says, I know that this is hard 649 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:28,200 Speaker 1: because this is all about Venus. But and Will Smith 650 00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:30,080 Speaker 1: is really good in this scene. Oh I'm gonna cry. 651 00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:32,440 Speaker 1: He was like, you're gonna be the best of all, 652 00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:34,880 Speaker 1: which feels a little convenient even though I'm sure, but 653 00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:39,120 Speaker 1: but it's like to put that in the screenplay where 654 00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:41,840 Speaker 1: it's like and also you will win this many ways. 655 00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:45,240 Speaker 1: You know, it's it's a father talking to his daughter 656 00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:47,680 Speaker 1: who he knows is hurting, and I think that there 657 00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:50,160 Speaker 1: is room for that. Remember the Titans moment, you know 658 00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:53,320 Speaker 1: what I mean, Like in movies like, I get it, 659 00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:55,840 Speaker 1: I get being like when something is saccharin being like, 660 00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:00,880 Speaker 1: but it really works. It's a it's a really good scene. 661 00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:04,600 Speaker 1: But also in regards to that actress watching her talk, 662 00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:07,240 Speaker 1: I mean, the performance is really good. It's not drawing 663 00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:09,560 Speaker 1: too much attention to itself. Obviously the story is like 664 00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:12,879 Speaker 1: sort of about the girls, you know ultimately, but her 665 00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:15,080 Speaker 1: in this interview it was like that Ian Armitage thing 666 00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:19,040 Speaker 1: where it's like your years old. Yeah, I guarantee you're 667 00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:24,560 Speaker 1: older than I am. Yeah. Yeah, that's a whole other vibe. Um, 668 00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:30,440 Speaker 1: Javier is best actor. Interesting. It is interesting because you 669 00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:32,759 Speaker 1: know it's weird. Is it's like, sorry I did not 670 00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:37,359 Speaker 1: to totally, but we're can talk about like it's. Um, 671 00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:40,799 Speaker 1: it's weird because you think Nicole and then you do 672 00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:44,560 Speaker 1: see it and like he is imagined him being bad. 673 00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:47,800 Speaker 1: I mean, I've see people sort of down on this performance. 674 00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:50,120 Speaker 1: I thought it was great. And again, I definitely have 675 00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:52,719 Speaker 1: seen every episode of I Love Lucy. The one to 676 00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:55,839 Speaker 1: one physical parallels don't mean anything to me. In fact, 677 00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:59,520 Speaker 1: I've enjoyed seeing interviews with Lucy Arnaz, Lucy Ball's daughter 678 00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:01,719 Speaker 1: who has this like crack or jack memory. It's like 679 00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:04,160 Speaker 1: cool to watch interviews with her being like, I'm so 680 00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:06,239 Speaker 1: glad they didn't go for the physical transformation. She's like, 681 00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:08,760 Speaker 1: it's so much better this way, which I agree. I agree. 682 00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:10,480 Speaker 1: It's like it's like the it's the other side of 683 00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:12,919 Speaker 1: the coin for the for the Tammy faith thing where 684 00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:15,440 Speaker 1: it's like it didn't I mean, I I too have 685 00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:18,120 Speaker 1: seen all these tweets and posts where it's like Nicole 686 00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:20,040 Speaker 1: didn't have anything behind the eyes and all this stuff, 687 00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:22,960 Speaker 1: and it's like Lucy was so like just expressive from 688 00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:25,279 Speaker 1: like behind the face and all this stuff. And I'm like, 689 00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:28,440 Speaker 1: I still I still enjoyed. But on my thing with 690 00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:30,600 Speaker 1: Heavy Years, didn't he say in an interview after the 691 00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:33,000 Speaker 1: nomins came out where he was like, I would not 692 00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:35,960 Speaker 1: have like that movie. Is Nicole's like if it weren't 693 00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:39,600 Speaker 1: from Nicole, and that role would be nothing, which which 694 00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:42,279 Speaker 1: I appreciate that he can just sort of like be 695 00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:45,440 Speaker 1: very trans like he can, that he's brave enough to 696 00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:47,760 Speaker 1: say that. Yeah. I also want to say, in regards 697 00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:49,239 Speaker 1: to what you were just saying about people being upset 698 00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:51,520 Speaker 1: with Nicole, I would have loved to hear this conversation 699 00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:54,040 Speaker 1: about Tom Hanks being nominated from Mr. Rogers where he 700 00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:55,839 Speaker 1: did not seem like him at all and no one 701 00:35:55,960 --> 00:36:00,680 Speaker 1: cares a feminate quality and he did not that at all, 702 00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:06,680 Speaker 1: And I think people like that. I think there's always 703 00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:10,000 Speaker 1: going to be more scrutiny on women being cast the 704 00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:12,560 Speaker 1: same way. More people care about best actress than best actor, 705 00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:14,400 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It's just like I remember 706 00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:16,560 Speaker 1: we I don't know how you felt like, but we 707 00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:19,640 Speaker 1: were both very skeptical about Nicole being Lucy because it 708 00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:22,280 Speaker 1: was originally Capel and chet right right, which and obviously 709 00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:25,080 Speaker 1: that's like my one, your dream. I don't even think 710 00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:27,560 Speaker 1: we would be talking about who would win. No, I 711 00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:29,160 Speaker 1: think you would be done. But then you two have 712 00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:33,240 Speaker 1: also both said that despite you know, I think Nicole 713 00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:35,759 Speaker 1: had such an uphill battle that it's it's kind of 714 00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:38,640 Speaker 1: triumphant to see it. Like, I just never bet against 715 00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:42,160 Speaker 1: her because when is has she hasn't Nicole Kidman ever 716 00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:46,600 Speaker 1: been bad? That's a good question. Uh not. Nothing really 717 00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:49,640 Speaker 1: comes to mind other than like bad movies like Bewitched. 718 00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:53,279 Speaker 1: Did we love that? I enjoyed it. I think she 719 00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:55,640 Speaker 1: was like I think I was like good for her, 720 00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:57,560 Speaker 1: you know, that was like but that was in her 721 00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:02,040 Speaker 1: true like Imperial phase one point though, right, you know 722 00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:04,080 Speaker 1: what I mean? That was like I I was excited 723 00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:06,600 Speaker 1: to see Christian schenn with in a movie. Oh yes, right, yes, 724 00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:09,399 Speaker 1: which is which is illegal for a number of years. Yeah. 725 00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:11,319 Speaker 1: Well then she did The Boy next Door and now 726 00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:14,320 Speaker 1: it's illegal again. Oh my god that role. Wait she' 727 00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:19,680 Speaker 1: The Boy next Door, which right after she is viciously insulted. 728 00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:23,600 Speaker 1: It's a thing where like a character doesn't deserve it 729 00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:26,080 Speaker 1: but gets it really bad. It's like she's found dead 730 00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:31,960 Speaker 1: in the closet, like, oh my god. There's then we 731 00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:34,719 Speaker 1: put that guy in um everybody wants some where. He 732 00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:37,439 Speaker 1: wears a jacks Wolf he's so hot. No, no guess 733 00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:41,160 Speaker 1: what his name is but something Ryan Guzman, Okay, first 734 00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:48,439 Speaker 1: edition for me? No, you shouldn't have. Whenever I said 735 00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:50,319 Speaker 1: you shouldn't have, ill do you laugh? And I don't 736 00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:53,839 Speaker 1: think we've ever gotten into a bigger fight than when 737 00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:59,480 Speaker 1: over Jennifer Lopez and Laura during year. She's amazing and 738 00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:02,040 Speaker 1: I came out of hustle has been like definitely Jennifer 739 00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:04,640 Speaker 1: Lopes's best performance, and I am upset that she didn't 740 00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:09,960 Speaker 1: get the nomination. You are hard, Laura, Yes, generally yeah, uh, 741 00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:13,319 Speaker 1: which I don't want to say that's basic of I 742 00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:16,640 Speaker 1: don't know, I don't know. I was anst to you 743 00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:20,440 Speaker 1: about it because I felt like she then became like underestimated. 744 00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:22,640 Speaker 1: People like, oh, it was a broad performance whatever. It's 745 00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:24,920 Speaker 1: like that part of the movie wouldn't work if she 746 00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:30,720 Speaker 1: weren't a little fucking weird. Exactly exactly, Laura Dern liking 747 00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:33,640 Speaker 1: Laura when what? What? When did that happen? You know? 748 00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:36,320 Speaker 1: This is I think it was big little saying liking 749 00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:41,239 Speaker 1: Laura Dern becoming synonymous with basics. This is a thing 750 00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:45,439 Speaker 1: because there was a moment where Laura Dern was like 751 00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:48,600 Speaker 1: it felt like finally we're talking about Laura Dern in 752 00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:52,840 Speaker 1: this way. And then in a instance literally okay, RuPaul 753 00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:55,280 Speaker 1: hosted SNL me Sudie and Frank Llspie wrote a sketch 754 00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:57,719 Speaker 1: called gay Oscars and it was me and Rue host 755 00:38:57,760 --> 00:38:59,880 Speaker 1: and then was like and of course it was basically 756 00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:03,480 Speaker 1: what that Jordan's Firstman piece ended up being. Yeah, and 757 00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:05,680 Speaker 1: where it was like Laura and Laura was nominating every 758 00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:09,680 Speaker 1: single category best hair was like we thought so at 759 00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:11,799 Speaker 1: the time until and this is not this is not 760 00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:14,040 Speaker 1: us like knocking like the like Jordan's thing, but it 761 00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:16,480 Speaker 1: was just like, oh, whoa, this is so weird, Like 762 00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:21,200 Speaker 1: the parallel thinking on Laura Dern is really synchronized in 763 00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:25,440 Speaker 1: such a specific way right now. And then after that 764 00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:27,759 Speaker 1: that was the inflection point. Maybe not that specific thing, 765 00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:31,319 Speaker 1: but like shortly after now it's like we talked about 766 00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:34,160 Speaker 1: Laura Dern and it's like, oh god, whatever, It's like 767 00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:35,719 Speaker 1: I think it's even a joke. In the second to 768 00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:39,120 Speaker 1: the other two, like Laura Dern like Day's liking Laura 769 00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:42,799 Speaker 1: Dern became monoculture like the Titanic. Yes, it's like it's 770 00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:47,480 Speaker 1: like everyone in America knows pej Yeah. And but I 771 00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:50,080 Speaker 1: will say I think it calmed down enough to where 772 00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:52,240 Speaker 1: I could see here on the Jurassic World Dominion trailer, 773 00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:55,480 Speaker 1: I'd be excited. Yeah, no, correct, but no, it's just 774 00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:57,239 Speaker 1: that thing that happened to Jennifer Coolidge too, And I 775 00:39:57,280 --> 00:39:59,759 Speaker 1: feel like somebody else in Tony Collette a little bit 776 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,960 Speaker 1: when people like congratulate themselves for having quote unquote done 777 00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:04,960 Speaker 1: the homework over the years, Like I remember her from 778 00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:08,279 Speaker 1: two movies. I've always liked, yes, yes, not just which 779 00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:10,640 Speaker 1: we do. We do all the time on our respective constantly, 780 00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:13,719 Speaker 1: us more than you guys probably, but like this is 781 00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:15,719 Speaker 1: us being like Kirsten done, so we deserve the crime. 782 00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:18,000 Speaker 1: We're not saying that, but it's like we've been doing, 783 00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:20,839 Speaker 1: we've been We're probably just like echoing something that like 784 00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:22,759 Speaker 1: a lot of people, I don't know, I don't know, 785 00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:27,399 Speaker 1: but there needs to be that conversation all these things 786 00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:29,399 Speaker 1: to happen. And so like I think in a way, 787 00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:32,960 Speaker 1: I'm not mad at it, just yes, yes, yes, yeah, 788 00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:35,040 Speaker 1: because it's it gets done. And of course in this 789 00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:37,440 Speaker 1: in this culture, you don't want to be the sixth 790 00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:39,440 Speaker 1: person to say something. I just think we have this 791 00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:44,680 Speaker 1: gay people might have this post coital m postnut guilt 792 00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:48,080 Speaker 1: shame around like a shared thought. Oh well, a bunch 793 00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:50,000 Speaker 1: of people think the same way I do about this thing, 794 00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:52,080 Speaker 1: and so therefore it must be a bad thought. But 795 00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:54,920 Speaker 1: I mean, but meanwhile, it's like it's like the on this, 796 00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:57,160 Speaker 1: I do know exactly what you mean, and I feel 797 00:40:57,160 --> 00:41:00,360 Speaker 1: this way as well. But also it's like, objectively is 798 00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:03,799 Speaker 1: fucking incredible, you know what I mean? Like objectively, like 799 00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:06,799 Speaker 1: I said thank you, and like I will not not 800 00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:10,680 Speaker 1: be rich. And I don't think she wins the Oscar 801 00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:13,040 Speaker 1: for Marriage Story without that performance. I think it's akin 802 00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:16,800 Speaker 1: to Katherine Heigel doing what she did in the finale 803 00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:19,640 Speaker 1: of season two of Gray's Anatomy and then getting knocked up, 804 00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:22,240 Speaker 1: which is why she wins for season three of Gray's Anatomy. 805 00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:24,319 Speaker 1: I think it just feels at a certain point like 806 00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:27,520 Speaker 1: it's time, and I wish that they're felt like there 807 00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:31,920 Speaker 1: was that immediacy around Kirston this year, because it feels 808 00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:34,279 Speaker 1: like what's going to happen is Ariana Debos is going 809 00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:37,000 Speaker 1: to win, who I think is phenomenal in the movie. 810 00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:40,480 Speaker 1: But I don't need her to have an oscar right, 811 00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:42,279 Speaker 1: right right, And in fact, it almost might be better 812 00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:43,920 Speaker 1: if she didn't win an Oscar, so that there was 813 00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:46,799 Speaker 1: some suspense about where her next move would take Um, 814 00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:48,879 Speaker 1: I just want to wrap up that conversation about Laura 815 00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:51,360 Speaker 1: during the thing that is annoying about it is the 816 00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:54,560 Speaker 1: people who tweet. Uh. Certain people who tweet about her 817 00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:57,239 Speaker 1: pretend like they aren't privy to the conversations, like they 818 00:41:57,320 --> 00:41:59,600 Speaker 1: just came up with that. I don't know what it 819 00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:02,040 Speaker 1: is about Laura Dern, but I just love you. Don't 820 00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:05,960 Speaker 1: say I've read that fifty fucking times. You know you're 821 00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:08,160 Speaker 1: pretending not to be a part of the conversation while 822 00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:15,239 Speaker 1: starting a conversation. Yes, yes, I'm angry it Rose, I 823 00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:18,080 Speaker 1: will say, how do you feel? If you're right? My 824 00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:20,680 Speaker 1: favorite topic on this podcast is, of course Bryce styles 825 00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:26,239 Speaker 1: Howard and how do you feel? Yeah? My thing with 826 00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:29,880 Speaker 1: y U, My my thing with Bryce Dallas is you 827 00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:32,640 Speaker 1: would never be like first, first choice, like we're going 828 00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:36,160 Speaker 1: Bryce Dallas. But when she's there, I always have She's 829 00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:38,560 Speaker 1: making a choice, She's always going for it. How do 830 00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:40,719 Speaker 1: you feel if you're Bryce Dallas Howard and you're like cool, 831 00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:42,520 Speaker 1: gearing up for the third one and they're like, we're 832 00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:44,920 Speaker 1: bringing back Laura Dern. Do you think you're excited or 833 00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:47,279 Speaker 1: you're like, God, damn it, I'm not the iconic one 834 00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:50,200 Speaker 1: here well, and the trailer it seems like there were 835 00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:51,879 Speaker 1: there were a lot of scenes where like she and 836 00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:54,600 Speaker 1: Laura are trapped in some like which I love, I 837 00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:57,400 Speaker 1: love it. I I bet they had so much fun together. 838 00:42:57,440 --> 00:42:59,080 Speaker 1: I'm obsessed. I don't want to I don't want to 839 00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:01,040 Speaker 1: buy in Janny sort of like, no, I want both 840 00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:03,040 Speaker 1: of them on equal sides of a t rex. They 841 00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:06,080 Speaker 1: nodded each other and then fucking kill it. I want 842 00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:11,160 Speaker 1: Laura dern And and Bryce Dallas to fucking that energy 843 00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:13,800 Speaker 1: is very uh nev Campbell and Courtney Cox in the 844 00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:16,799 Speaker 1: new scream that you can almost tell they've decided we 845 00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:19,880 Speaker 1: won't be killed. So now we're just gonna glance at 846 00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:22,200 Speaker 1: each other as the murders occur and then like get 847 00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:24,120 Speaker 1: a shank in the knee and kill them or whatever. 848 00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:28,359 Speaker 1: David Arcutt was this was this the scream where um, 849 00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:31,160 Speaker 1: it's uh, where are you bringing a gun with you? 850 00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:36,640 Speaker 1: I'm Sidney Prescott. I always have a Sydney Prescott said 851 00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:38,560 Speaker 1: second a Memory rights, and it's actually real culture number. 852 00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:42,640 Speaker 1: Sydney Prescott said Second Amendment rights, and she should if 853 00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:44,960 Speaker 1: anyone's gonna say it, it should be Sydney. I mean 854 00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:55,840 Speaker 1: the woman is constantly under attack. I think it's actually 855 00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:58,160 Speaker 1: time and this is crazy to ask the question. Oh 856 00:43:58,200 --> 00:43:59,960 Speaker 1: my god, yes, I was getting so carried away with 857 00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:03,719 Speaker 1: we've never even a million times. Well, you know, he 858 00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:08,120 Speaker 1: did do one of the most iconic trolls, which, by 859 00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:10,160 Speaker 1: the way, I missed in my daily life. I wish 860 00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:11,520 Speaker 1: more people would just come up to me and like, 861 00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:16,239 Speaker 1: you have to talk right now about vera farn you 862 00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:23,359 Speaker 1: pulled Chelsea Clinton. I mean, you were mean, But that's 863 00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:25,000 Speaker 1: the thing about I don't think so any trouble. You 864 00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:27,520 Speaker 1: don't know until you feel, until it's coming in your mouth. 865 00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:30,680 Speaker 1: And I loved the Queen of the soft tweet like, 866 00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:34,520 Speaker 1: oh yeah, she's like responding to like Denische Di Susa 867 00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:37,680 Speaker 1: with thank you for your opinion. But it's like, what, 868 00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:39,600 Speaker 1: You're not owning him at all, and this is stupid 869 00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:43,960 Speaker 1: And this was peaque Chelsea Clinton twitter that that was 870 00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:46,359 Speaker 1: around that time. A few years ago, Vanessa bay Are 871 00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:48,640 Speaker 1: hosted like the Glamour Women of the Year Awards, and 872 00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:50,160 Speaker 1: one of her jokes was like she was like she 873 00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:52,040 Speaker 1: was like listening everyone that was being honored in Chelsea 874 00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:53,680 Speaker 1: Clinton was one of them, and she was like Blake 875 00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:57,680 Speaker 1: lively something something Chelsea Clinton. We all have some one 876 00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:01,839 Speaker 1: thing in common. None of their mom were president, and 877 00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:05,000 Speaker 1: so Chelsea Clinton got up like later it was like Vanessa, 878 00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:09,200 Speaker 1: just so you know, it's true, none of our moms 879 00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:12,440 Speaker 1: were a president, but one day one of our moms 880 00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:17,680 Speaker 1: will be. And it's like Chelsea, I guess, like go off. 881 00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:21,960 Speaker 1: But anyway, the question in hand, lewis fort tell what 882 00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:25,399 Speaker 1: was the culture that made you say culture was for you? 883 00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:29,239 Speaker 1: Can I give a preamble to the answer and then yeah, 884 00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:33,920 Speaker 1: there's no rules, just vibes whatever. Um. Well, my oldest 885 00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:36,319 Speaker 1: pop culture memory is when I was like minutes old 886 00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:37,920 Speaker 1: and the show I would watch every day, and there 887 00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:39,960 Speaker 1: are pictures of me watching it is you can't believe it. 888 00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:43,320 Speaker 1: Weeld of Fortune because we are fortune to me actually 889 00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:46,200 Speaker 1: has almost everything I'm interested in, which just first of all, 890 00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:50,920 Speaker 1: stunning visuals, many colors, and I was so obsessed with 891 00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:54,120 Speaker 1: the wheel that I would, in my spare time as 892 00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:58,120 Speaker 1: a child take cake circles and draw with cran and 893 00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:00,920 Speaker 1: a protractor and my mom would help me. I would 894 00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:04,239 Speaker 1: make Wheel of Fortune and my younger brother Greg would 895 00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:08,359 Speaker 1: do it too. Now, people familiar with the spectrum may 896 00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:12,680 Speaker 1: understand that there's something about repetitiveness, like wheels spinning. I 897 00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:15,359 Speaker 1: couldn't stop looking at stealing fans when I was a kid, 898 00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:17,359 Speaker 1: So there was something I was. I was a little 899 00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:19,319 Speaker 1: bit like close to the spectrum, just like I had. 900 00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:22,319 Speaker 1: I had something with radial things, radial things, and so 901 00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:25,360 Speaker 1: do my brother Greg um. And so there's something transfixing 902 00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:31,520 Speaker 1: about that. Um. The puzzles routinely like clued you into idioms, 903 00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:34,920 Speaker 1: yes your yes, yes, pop culture. I remember something I 904 00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:36,640 Speaker 1: used to love about Wheel of Fortune. You would always 905 00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:42,280 Speaker 1: see the um category star and roll or husband and wife, 906 00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:44,839 Speaker 1: and so you would get the thrilling solve of Eddie 907 00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:47,400 Speaker 1: van Halen and Valerie Burton Elly. And so then I 908 00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:51,000 Speaker 1: would be like, I've got to remember that. And then 909 00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:54,560 Speaker 1: you pay you start to pair those things, yes exactly, 910 00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:58,439 Speaker 1: synapses start firing and you start building the Wikipedia and yeah, 911 00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:01,960 Speaker 1: um so. And also there's something about a game show 912 00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:04,640 Speaker 1: where all the sound effects are just in the right place, 913 00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:07,080 Speaker 1: like if you guess wrong, you get this noise, if 914 00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:09,160 Speaker 1: you get right, you get this noise. And there's something 915 00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:13,239 Speaker 1: really calming about that. So the calming nature of entertainment 916 00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:16,640 Speaker 1: that spoke to me. But in terms of really formative 917 00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:20,880 Speaker 1: pop culture. You know that when you experience the celebrity 918 00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:23,080 Speaker 1: at just the right time in your life, Like, for example, 919 00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:25,040 Speaker 1: Jim Carrey came out when I was eight, and he's 920 00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:28,719 Speaker 1: the perfect movie start for an eight year old. When 921 00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:30,680 Speaker 1: I was in middle school, that's when I got really 922 00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:34,920 Speaker 1: into old blockbuster videos of like the best of Gilda Radner. 923 00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:38,160 Speaker 1: Are you bat to say, Jane, I will I will 924 00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:41,759 Speaker 1: get to jams? But specifically Gilda Radner. There's something about 925 00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:45,000 Speaker 1: being in middle school where you still have your childlike qualities, 926 00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:47,400 Speaker 1: but a part of you is almost starting to consciously 927 00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:48,800 Speaker 1: put those away, like you don't want to seem like 928 00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:52,200 Speaker 1: a little kid. And Gilda Radner to experience her and 929 00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:56,640 Speaker 1: her like rambunctiousness and her really like juvenile characters, and 930 00:47:56,760 --> 00:47:58,920 Speaker 1: it's like for her to say, like keep all of it, 931 00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:02,400 Speaker 1: keep your child by child to be a kid, you know, 932 00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:05,960 Speaker 1: like just the Judy Miller show and she was the brownie, 933 00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:08,239 Speaker 1: like doing a her own TV show in her room, 934 00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:12,839 Speaker 1: or just the wackiness of the character. It's like yes 935 00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:15,239 Speaker 1: with thector to the animals. I picked up that Mike 936 00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:18,560 Speaker 1: Nichols book to read about Gilda. Only a page and 937 00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:22,080 Speaker 1: half Mark Harris, You're on my list. Um, but like 938 00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:25,880 Speaker 1: it was so affirming and so like, you know, I 939 00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:27,879 Speaker 1: don't have to change at all, you know, I think 940 00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:30,080 Speaker 1: I've really been on that ever since. Like, no, I'm 941 00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:32,560 Speaker 1: I'm driven to be this thing. And also I think 942 00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:34,840 Speaker 1: it's a little underrated about Guilda Redna that she was 943 00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:39,760 Speaker 1: that childlike person juxtaposed with these men who honestly wanted 944 00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:42,359 Speaker 1: to be cool. Her whole thing was never wanting to 945 00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:45,080 Speaker 1: be cool, you know, like Chevy Chase wanted you to 946 00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:48,360 Speaker 1: find him like a sexy prick. Yeah, and I like, 947 00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:52,520 Speaker 1: I love um Bill Murray a comic, but like his 948 00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:55,919 Speaker 1: was like always underlining with cynicism, and she always wanted 949 00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:59,280 Speaker 1: to feel like I can't even begin on that. Yeah, 950 00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:01,839 Speaker 1: but no, I like I hated that energy and so 951 00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:04,239 Speaker 1: for her to offset that, And a part of me 952 00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:07,480 Speaker 1: almost thinks, like it shouldn't be this important to me 953 00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:10,400 Speaker 1: that a woman was lovable on a cast, but but 954 00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:14,960 Speaker 1: it was a necessary in that group of people. Between 955 00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:17,960 Speaker 1: Jane and Lorraine. Yeah. Yeah, I mean you, I think 956 00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:21,480 Speaker 1: you probably have a better I don't know, understanding of 957 00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:23,880 Speaker 1: like those dynamics than I do, honestly, and like I 958 00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:25,279 Speaker 1: don't know, I don't know why I say that, but 959 00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:27,440 Speaker 1: like I think this is such a I think this 960 00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:29,640 Speaker 1: is this is one of my favorite answers. Well, we've 961 00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:34,799 Speaker 1: never even discussed Kilda on the show. She is a 962 00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:41,759 Speaker 1: paradigm because in her footsteps comes everybody. You would never 963 00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:44,319 Speaker 1: not bring her up if you, and I almost feel 964 00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:46,239 Speaker 1: like they feel burdened to talk about her because she's 965 00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:49,680 Speaker 1: a woman, but she is also fabulous, So she's absolutely amazing. 966 00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:52,480 Speaker 1: And the thing too is like what one thing I 967 00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:55,120 Speaker 1: I find is and we've we've discussed this sometimes, but 968 00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:59,760 Speaker 1: there is such a unlocking of when you have fun, 969 00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:02,520 Speaker 1: everyone has fun, and that's a disciple that I think 970 00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:06,040 Speaker 1: um Amy Poehler follows and so many of the women 971 00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:09,480 Speaker 1: else and now certainly Maya, And I think that is 972 00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:12,040 Speaker 1: coming from a like it almost like a like a 973 00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:15,719 Speaker 1: spiritual thing that is Gilda, because when you say that 974 00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:19,320 Speaker 1: she had her she had her youthful energy but also 975 00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:24,359 Speaker 1: very very very adult struggles, you know what I mean, 976 00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:27,359 Speaker 1: Like you have to imagine that that um saved her 977 00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:29,080 Speaker 1: in a way, you know what I mean, Like she 978 00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:33,239 Speaker 1: had a difficult life and an adulthood, and I think 979 00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:37,239 Speaker 1: that that inner child is something that um probably was 980 00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:39,760 Speaker 1: a day to day salve for her and like certainly 981 00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:43,040 Speaker 1: translates in her work because what she was giving you, 982 00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:45,040 Speaker 1: which the rest of the cast like at the time 983 00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:49,000 Speaker 1: maybe wasn't, was the sense of fun in the following 984 00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:51,480 Speaker 1: of the fund, which is so important in comedy and 985 00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:53,680 Speaker 1: especially at that job, at that job, and like you're 986 00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:55,399 Speaker 1: so right about like the men wanting to be cool, 987 00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:57,279 Speaker 1: and she didn't really give a funk, but she would 988 00:50:57,320 --> 00:50:59,560 Speaker 1: still go to like Studio fifty four and you know, 989 00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:02,920 Speaker 1: like still be this like I don't know this like 990 00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:06,960 Speaker 1: effervescent person and oh my god, like you Carry the Light. 991 00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:10,240 Speaker 1: One of the best memoir titles. I think. It's always 992 00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:15,000 Speaker 1: it's always something I just read recently. And obviously there 993 00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:16,920 Speaker 1: are moments of levity and that's sort of the thing 994 00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:20,240 Speaker 1: that led to Guilda's Club and like, you know, having 995 00:51:20,239 --> 00:51:22,960 Speaker 1: fund during a really difficult life moment. That book is 996 00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:26,800 Speaker 1: basically a horror story because it's literally doctor after doctor 997 00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:29,680 Speaker 1: getting her diagnosis wrong or playing down how bad it is. 998 00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:33,600 Speaker 1: And it's really really tough to read, even though you 999 00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:37,359 Speaker 1: really remember her point of view throughout it. You remember, like, god, 1000 00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:40,000 Speaker 1: she really was fucking obsessed with Gene Wilder and that 1001 00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:43,480 Speaker 1: really like propelled her through a lot of that. But um, 1002 00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:46,920 Speaker 1: it's an invaluable book for that reason. There's some I 1003 00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:48,759 Speaker 1: think it's either in the book or it's in something 1004 00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:51,680 Speaker 1: else where. It's like she's like, uh, she's writing about 1005 00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:54,680 Speaker 1: what she wants her tombstone to say, or she's like, 1006 00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:58,520 Speaker 1: bury me with a TV and have my tombstone say 1007 00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:01,640 Speaker 1: here lies Guilder Radn or she had a great time 1008 00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:03,799 Speaker 1: or something, and I'm like, oh my, did you see 1009 00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:05,640 Speaker 1: love guild at that documentary that they did on him 1010 00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:11,319 Speaker 1: and year ago? So good, just so good. And yeah, 1011 00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:13,480 Speaker 1: I can't believe we haven't talked about her on this well. 1012 00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:15,319 Speaker 1: You know, I think it's one of those things. It's 1013 00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:18,080 Speaker 1: just kind of generational because it's it's just I know 1014 00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:20,319 Speaker 1: the name is a little bit lost to time. It 1015 00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:22,440 Speaker 1: certainly is, and I mean it's it's very similar to 1016 00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:25,279 Speaker 1: Lucy actually, because you know, whenever I think we were 1017 00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:27,560 Speaker 1: that last generation of people who were watching Nick and 1018 00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:31,319 Speaker 1: Knight and the show was on. It's weird to think 1019 00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:35,680 Speaker 1: of like kids now not having that understanding of where 1020 00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:40,280 Speaker 1: sitcom came from and where female driven comedy like really 1021 00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:44,080 Speaker 1: came from in terms of like mainstream television, but with Guilda, 1022 00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:47,920 Speaker 1: I think that her spirit so lives on and the 1023 00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:51,759 Speaker 1: women that followed her that at least that you know 1024 00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:56,160 Speaker 1: what I mean, Like I would imagine that it's certainly 1025 00:52:56,200 --> 00:53:00,520 Speaker 1: emotional for any like female cast member that goes through 1026 00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:02,520 Speaker 1: SNL to see her picture on the wall. She also, 1027 00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:04,360 Speaker 1: by the way, was kind of a Whitney Houston situation 1028 00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:06,920 Speaker 1: where like America, the country was led to believe she 1029 00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:12,120 Speaker 1: was sort of getting better. She made like a yeah, yeah, yeah, 1030 00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:16,239 Speaker 1: So I wonder if there's additional um feelings attached to 1031 00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:19,000 Speaker 1: oh my god, she'd up and died. You know. It's 1032 00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:21,160 Speaker 1: like those like the final days where like I think 1033 00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:24,120 Speaker 1: like it was like, uh, Bill Murray would go and 1034 00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:26,279 Speaker 1: visit her, or like it's like a lot of like 1035 00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:30,799 Speaker 1: those SNL people visited her in the hospital and like 1036 00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:33,960 Speaker 1: she just was just just kind of like so frail 1037 00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:36,160 Speaker 1: and just like sagged in their arms, and it was 1038 00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:38,960 Speaker 1: like this is Guilder Ratter who was like life jumping 1039 00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:42,160 Speaker 1: all over the place. You know. It's also it's so 1040 00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:45,279 Speaker 1: it's so sad and frustrating when you realized that someone 1041 00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:47,839 Speaker 1: was taken by something that maybe twenty or thirty years 1042 00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:49,880 Speaker 1: later could have been dealt with a little bit or 1043 00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:51,560 Speaker 1: much better, you know what I mean. It's just one 1044 00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:55,600 Speaker 1: of those things. And like her legacy obviously literally lives 1045 00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:58,319 Speaker 1: on and so many people that followed her, but it 1046 00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:02,680 Speaker 1: is good to keep the aim like alive because you know, 1047 00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:05,719 Speaker 1: it's just there was no one like her, I mean, 1048 00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:07,600 Speaker 1: and she opened that door, like like when you talk 1049 00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:10,640 Speaker 1: about it like truly someone who influenced so many and 1050 00:54:10,640 --> 00:54:12,480 Speaker 1: then by the same token you speak about Jane like 1051 00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:16,040 Speaker 1: a completely different energy at the same time, and by 1052 00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:18,239 Speaker 1: the way, is like my hero I should and beside that, 1053 00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:20,520 Speaker 1: I as an adult, feel like I have become more 1054 00:54:20,560 --> 00:54:24,839 Speaker 1: of a Jane curtain. Oh yeah, that's me. And I've 1055 00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:26,960 Speaker 1: heard I think Tina Fey even said you something you 1056 00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:29,000 Speaker 1: realize after a certain time that you're not a guilt 1057 00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:32,319 Speaker 1: of And like there's even something about the way she 1058 00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:35,320 Speaker 1: read the news during weekend Update where it was about 1059 00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:39,200 Speaker 1: hard punch lines, like I'm not reacting emotionally to this, 1060 00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:41,640 Speaker 1: I'm not looking at the guy to my left, where 1061 00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:43,160 Speaker 1: she plays it so straight that I feel like, in 1062 00:54:43,239 --> 00:54:45,800 Speaker 1: a way, she was the most influential of the early 1063 00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:47,719 Speaker 1: people to do it because like people don't do it 1064 00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:50,799 Speaker 1: like Chevy Chase now or even Bill Murray. You know, 1065 00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:54,520 Speaker 1: there's the hard cell of the line I rolled at 1066 00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:58,560 Speaker 1: Accompany's it. I feel like it's very Tina Fee where 1067 00:54:58,600 --> 00:55:02,000 Speaker 1: it was like the chevy Chases gave way to like 1068 00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:05,120 Speaker 1: the Letterman's in terms of definitely in terms of this like, oh, 1069 00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:07,640 Speaker 1: I'm a male comedian, so I will be a little 1070 00:55:07,640 --> 00:55:09,560 Speaker 1: bit of a just a little bit of an asshole 1071 00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:11,960 Speaker 1: above it all, above it all in a way that's 1072 00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:13,640 Speaker 1: fun and like the audience kind of responds to and 1073 00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:16,480 Speaker 1: laughs at. But but Jane did kind of set this 1074 00:55:16,520 --> 00:55:20,160 Speaker 1: precedent of like, um, someone who's just like I'm not 1075 00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:22,320 Speaker 1: put upon, but someone is just like just trying to 1076 00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:26,360 Speaker 1: get through it, like I don't know, and like honestly 1077 00:55:27,080 --> 00:55:31,239 Speaker 1: in a way that like maybe like I would say, 1078 00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:37,799 Speaker 1: Jay has a little bit of Jane weirdly similar. They 1079 00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:39,360 Speaker 1: are similar on that just like reading the news and 1080 00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:42,680 Speaker 1: be like okay, like here we go. Like Chay, like 1081 00:55:43,239 --> 00:55:45,799 Speaker 1: Chay for all of his like online behavior like has 1082 00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:49,120 Speaker 1: this very like he wouldn't mind be saying this, Like 1083 00:55:49,120 --> 00:55:54,560 Speaker 1: he has this very like um uh calculated troll persona 1084 00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:57,720 Speaker 1: that he loves. But on the show, it's like except 1085 00:55:57,719 --> 00:56:00,279 Speaker 1: for when he's like, you know, shipping on Hall, and 1086 00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:02,320 Speaker 1: it's like if he's reading just like a headline and 1087 00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:05,440 Speaker 1: a set up at a punchline, he's just kind of like, Okay, 1088 00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:10,760 Speaker 1: here we go. You know. He doesn't give it much, 1089 00:56:10,920 --> 00:56:13,160 Speaker 1: which which I think is kind of Jane Jane, which 1090 00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:16,440 Speaker 1: the IY roll is sort of like whatever you know, 1091 00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:20,279 Speaker 1: and like, um, yeah, have you met Jane ever? No. 1092 00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:23,680 Speaker 1: One time, Well, I was wearing my Jane curtain shirt. 1093 00:56:24,520 --> 00:56:26,680 Speaker 1: I was at a Trader Joe's in Los Angeles and 1094 00:56:26,680 --> 00:56:28,360 Speaker 1: I get to the counter and the guy goes, you 1095 00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:30,640 Speaker 1: just missed her. She was just here. I was like, 1096 00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:33,560 Speaker 1: I mean, that's like a Joker origin story, Like my 1097 00:56:33,600 --> 00:56:37,359 Speaker 1: brain went fifty directions. Anyway, she seems and she also, 1098 00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:40,279 Speaker 1: by the way, is a celebrity Jeopardy legend. She made 1099 00:56:40,320 --> 00:56:42,080 Speaker 1: She made it to the end of a giant tournament 1100 00:56:42,080 --> 00:56:45,560 Speaker 1: and lost in the end to Michael McKean, who's also Yeah, 1101 00:56:45,640 --> 00:56:47,560 Speaker 1: but she's like a trivia girl, which I love, and 1102 00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:50,040 Speaker 1: in fact was on a game show in the six 1103 00:56:50,239 --> 00:56:52,239 Speaker 1: late sixties or seventies that I forget the name of. 1104 00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:54,040 Speaker 1: But I was like, wow, and you're a game show 1105 00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:58,839 Speaker 1: girl like UIs. We didn't. That's the one game show 1106 00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:01,400 Speaker 1: I lost, unfortunately. But so that going back to a 1107 00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:04,759 Speaker 1: little fortune is that I don't know this, It's hard. 1108 00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:06,760 Speaker 1: I don't what am I asking? Like was that paired 1109 00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:09,319 Speaker 1: with Jeopardy over time, like you just watch both shows 1110 00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:13,080 Speaker 1: in the same sitting. And also something that was seminal 1111 00:57:13,160 --> 00:57:14,759 Speaker 1: was that you could play home versions of Wheel of 1112 00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:17,040 Speaker 1: Fortunate in Jeopardy that my parents had. So that's how 1113 00:57:17,120 --> 00:57:19,320 Speaker 1: I learned to like type on the computer. I mean 1114 00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:22,560 Speaker 1: you can to the Wikipedia biopic is like writing itself 1115 00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:25,920 Speaker 1: and uh, you know, and like that's how I started 1116 00:57:25,960 --> 00:57:28,160 Speaker 1: accruing knowledge whatever. And I just want to say about 1117 00:57:28,360 --> 00:57:31,760 Speaker 1: Pat say Jack too. While his politics disappoint me, he 1118 00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:36,280 Speaker 1: is incredibly underrated on that. He's very very good rules 1119 00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:38,080 Speaker 1: he has to get through and then he conveys them 1120 00:57:38,080 --> 00:57:40,160 Speaker 1: in a different way every time with like a joke. Again, 1121 00:57:40,200 --> 00:57:42,640 Speaker 1: I just brought up Bill Murray. I watched Um groundhog 1122 00:57:42,760 --> 00:57:45,640 Speaker 1: Day recently. Pat say Jack style is not different than 1123 00:57:45,680 --> 00:57:48,240 Speaker 1: Bill Murray, who was giving you like who was giving 1124 00:57:48,280 --> 00:57:51,880 Speaker 1: you like a a soft cynicism, but he underlines it 1125 00:57:51,920 --> 00:57:53,880 Speaker 1: with a smile to keep the game going, and I 1126 00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:57,760 Speaker 1: find it so reliably good. It's just the way someone 1127 00:57:57,800 --> 00:58:02,840 Speaker 1: when someone is like, d it's not deep, yes, I 1128 00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:06,280 Speaker 1: know the no, no, do you know what I'm saying? 1129 00:58:06,280 --> 00:58:07,680 Speaker 1: Like it's like that kind of thing, or it's just 1130 00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:11,560 Speaker 1: like that, Well you're up there moving on. It is 1131 00:58:11,560 --> 00:58:13,840 Speaker 1: there is something calustic about it, I guess, and it's 1132 00:58:13,880 --> 00:58:17,960 Speaker 1: just it's it's the tone is wonderful. But also, of 1133 00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:20,160 Speaker 1: course there's an awkward disc Wheel of Fortune where you 1134 00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:21,840 Speaker 1: could have one letter left and still not know the 1135 00:58:21,880 --> 00:58:25,120 Speaker 1: puzzle and maybe everybody else, maybe everybody else in America 1136 00:58:25,160 --> 00:58:28,720 Speaker 1: knows the puzzle. It's extremely stress Birds of a Weather. 1137 00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:35,400 Speaker 1: Oh but like, imagine you're responding to that. Okay, it's me. 1138 00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:40,720 Speaker 1: I'm a fantastic your pats agent Birds of Weather? What 1139 00:58:40,920 --> 00:58:47,720 Speaker 1: that's oh oh well no, what I would that I 1140 00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:53,200 Speaker 1: would that would be my authentic responsive to weather. Honestly, 1141 00:58:53,440 --> 00:59:00,120 Speaker 1: I can't That's when I love that on YouTube. I 1142 00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:03,960 Speaker 1: cannot sit through it because, by the way, as somebody 1143 00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:05,240 Speaker 1: pointed out to me, I think it was my friend 1144 00:59:05,320 --> 00:59:08,400 Speaker 1: David Clark. He said, actually, Wheel of Fortune is the 1145 00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:12,120 Speaker 1: more uh brainier gain than Jeopardy because if you get 1146 00:59:12,160 --> 00:59:14,560 Speaker 1: a question on Jeopardy, it's like calling response like you 1147 00:59:14,600 --> 00:59:18,160 Speaker 1: know what I feel a fortune you are you have 1148 00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:21,240 Speaker 1: the responsibility of solving something in front of America. You 1149 00:59:21,360 --> 00:59:24,040 Speaker 1: have to use your brain to do it. And even 1150 00:59:24,040 --> 00:59:26,520 Speaker 1: though it's like a meager task, really it can still 1151 00:59:26,800 --> 00:59:30,320 Speaker 1: not occur. And then what the snakes are super high 1152 00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:33,960 Speaker 1: because of how menial it seems, you know it's And meanwhile, 1153 00:59:34,040 --> 00:59:37,160 Speaker 1: Jeopardy it's like I genuinely feel and I went on 1154 00:59:37,240 --> 00:59:38,920 Speaker 1: wants to be a Millionaire? Because I said the same 1155 00:59:38,960 --> 00:59:41,800 Speaker 1: thing and how much would you want a millionaire? Thirty ground? Okay, 1156 00:59:41,840 --> 00:59:44,400 Speaker 1: I won five and I got to twenty and then 1157 00:59:44,480 --> 00:59:47,800 Speaker 1: did something stupid and got knocked down. But I honestly 1158 00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:52,680 Speaker 1: felt like, who wants to be a millionaire? What? You know? 1159 00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:55,720 Speaker 1: Did you do it in Vegas? Yes? So they put 1160 00:59:55,880 --> 01:00:00,360 Speaker 1: so much bullshit on it and it's just you, and 1161 01:00:00,520 --> 01:00:03,720 Speaker 1: it's so dramatic and there's so much and the words 1162 01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:05,840 Speaker 1: are so big, and it feels so high stakes on 1163 01:00:05,920 --> 01:00:08,600 Speaker 1: you that I almost feel like, despite the fact that 1164 01:00:08,640 --> 01:00:13,320 Speaker 1: the level of difficulty is not Jeopardy, that it feels 1165 01:00:13,360 --> 01:00:15,520 Speaker 1: more high stakes than my heart pressure because it is 1166 01:00:15,600 --> 01:00:18,960 Speaker 1: on you. You are the star of that episode. Meanwhile, Jeopardy, 1167 01:00:19,040 --> 01:00:21,520 Speaker 1: it's like when you're with three and then the host 1168 01:00:21,880 --> 01:00:25,200 Speaker 1: and it's more fast moving. You almost have more clarity 1169 01:00:25,240 --> 01:00:26,840 Speaker 1: and like in terms of when you're going to buzz 1170 01:00:26,880 --> 01:00:29,920 Speaker 1: in what the answer is. And I feel like watching 1171 01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:33,120 Speaker 1: Jeopardy more like allows you to be better at the game, 1172 01:00:33,120 --> 01:00:35,400 Speaker 1: whereas millionaires kind of just like it is not what 1173 01:00:35,520 --> 01:00:38,120 Speaker 1: it seems like. Oh, also the deal with millionaires you 1174 01:00:38,120 --> 01:00:40,880 Speaker 1: can't pass up a question if you don't know it all. 1175 01:00:41,800 --> 01:00:44,560 Speaker 1: But I think this is what's this is what's interesting 1176 01:00:44,560 --> 01:00:46,400 Speaker 1: about what Louis said about Will of Fortune, where it's 1177 01:00:46,400 --> 01:00:50,120 Speaker 1: like the cues, the sounds are placed just right, and 1178 01:00:50,160 --> 01:00:54,560 Speaker 1: I think that the oral slash sonic landscaping of a 1179 01:00:54,600 --> 01:00:58,240 Speaker 1: game show is so important. But real fortune just kind 1180 01:00:58,240 --> 01:01:00,560 Speaker 1: of feels the stakes don't seem that high because like 1181 01:01:00,600 --> 01:01:03,240 Speaker 1: the sounds are like thing, but like it feels like 1182 01:01:03,280 --> 01:01:07,320 Speaker 1: kind of frivolous and fun. Jeopardy it's like mostly silent, right, 1183 01:01:07,720 --> 01:01:14,720 Speaker 1: and then a millionaire is fucking like it's scored. Feels think. Yes, 1184 01:01:15,160 --> 01:01:16,560 Speaker 1: So if you don't know what immediately, you have to 1185 01:01:16,560 --> 01:01:18,440 Speaker 1: sort through it and then speak through it. And then 1186 01:01:18,840 --> 01:01:21,040 Speaker 1: if you're me or Matt, you obviously feel somewhat obligated 1187 01:01:21,080 --> 01:01:24,360 Speaker 1: to give entertainment and it's it's so yes, it's theater, 1188 01:01:24,560 --> 01:01:26,520 Speaker 1: but this is what I mean study and I I 1189 01:01:26,520 --> 01:01:28,240 Speaker 1: brought studio as my plus one and we had like 1190 01:01:28,320 --> 01:01:30,600 Speaker 1: essentially a comedy bit. And when I brought it up 1191 01:01:30,640 --> 01:01:32,840 Speaker 1: and I was like, see, now did I get something 1192 01:01:32,880 --> 01:01:35,360 Speaker 1: out of this because that went well or because because 1193 01:01:35,360 --> 01:01:39,160 Speaker 1: the questions like, but ultimately it is and what I 1194 01:01:39,160 --> 01:01:41,320 Speaker 1: would say to everyone at home that's watching a millionaire 1195 01:01:41,360 --> 01:01:44,120 Speaker 1: like that is not something they put in later, like 1196 01:01:44,240 --> 01:01:51,160 Speaker 1: they're scoring it while you're there, like and you're like, um, 1197 01:01:51,360 --> 01:01:54,000 Speaker 1: I cannot think, like and I remember, like there were 1198 01:01:54,000 --> 01:01:55,640 Speaker 1: certain questions that I was always gonna get right, Like 1199 01:01:55,640 --> 01:01:58,320 Speaker 1: I got a viola Davis. I remember that, yes, and 1200 01:01:58,400 --> 01:02:00,520 Speaker 1: so that one was fine, But then were other ones 1201 01:02:00,560 --> 01:02:02,320 Speaker 1: where the one that I got out on was a 1202 01:02:02,440 --> 01:02:10,840 Speaker 1: question about the spelling. And I don't think I would 1203 01:02:10,880 --> 01:02:15,840 Speaker 1: have ever gotten it wrong except in that situation. And 1204 01:02:15,880 --> 01:02:18,280 Speaker 1: you're saying that they did not they did score it 1205 01:02:18,320 --> 01:02:20,840 Speaker 1: in that moment, or they didn't they did, they did, 1206 01:02:20,880 --> 01:02:23,840 Speaker 1: and yes, and see like that, I definitely know that 1207 01:02:23,840 --> 01:02:27,800 Speaker 1: Ebeneezer is spelled eb and easy are in the moment 1208 01:02:27,960 --> 01:02:30,800 Speaker 1: easy to second guess when you see four spellings. Yes, 1209 01:02:30,880 --> 01:02:33,000 Speaker 1: And I thought for a second because because the question 1210 01:02:33,080 --> 01:02:35,640 Speaker 1: was phrased like what is the correct spelling of the 1211 01:02:35,640 --> 01:02:40,400 Speaker 1: protagonist name of Charles Dickens's um Christmas Carol? And I 1212 01:02:40,440 --> 01:02:43,439 Speaker 1: thought maybe they'll give four different names. No, they gave 1213 01:02:43,480 --> 01:02:46,360 Speaker 1: four different spellings of Ebeneezer, and I was like fuck. 1214 01:02:46,480 --> 01:02:49,960 Speaker 1: And at that point they have kept you there all day. 1215 01:02:50,160 --> 01:02:53,560 Speaker 1: The coffee situation was bleak, like they tire you out. 1216 01:02:53,680 --> 01:02:56,200 Speaker 1: All you're watching in the dressing room is jepar is 1217 01:02:56,280 --> 01:02:59,120 Speaker 1: um who wants So the last thing you want to 1218 01:02:59,160 --> 01:03:01,640 Speaker 1: do when you out there is play that fucking game. 1219 01:03:01,960 --> 01:03:05,200 Speaker 1: Everyone's watching the scoring, etcetera. Your brain is not your 1220 01:03:05,240 --> 01:03:07,280 Speaker 1: brain at home. Yeah, yeah, and you've been I think 1221 01:03:07,320 --> 01:03:10,600 Speaker 1: you've been kept from your phone and like material, we 1222 01:03:10,640 --> 01:03:12,919 Speaker 1: can't have a book, you can't have anything that gives 1223 01:03:12,920 --> 01:03:18,760 Speaker 1: you any information essentially, but the sound design of these 1224 01:03:18,760 --> 01:03:23,160 Speaker 1: shows I take for granted. Unfortunately, Yeah, I Jeopardy is 1225 01:03:23,200 --> 01:03:25,520 Speaker 1: like even like the dude like it's like it's it's 1226 01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:30,000 Speaker 1: then of course the iconic final song, which the greatest 1227 01:03:30,000 --> 01:03:32,440 Speaker 1: bop in history, which is like why merv Griffin had 1228 01:03:32,440 --> 01:03:36,320 Speaker 1: all the money he had. It's um, but I guess, 1229 01:03:36,360 --> 01:03:39,680 Speaker 1: but as your do you think we'll have fortune? Are 1230 01:03:39,960 --> 01:03:43,840 Speaker 1: we saying that we'll have fortune tricks the contestant into 1231 01:03:44,680 --> 01:03:50,160 Speaker 1: this ease that then sets them up for total humiliation potentially. Yeah, 1232 01:03:50,400 --> 01:03:53,040 Speaker 1: well it's it's I would compare it to family feud 1233 01:03:53,120 --> 01:03:56,000 Speaker 1: in that the question is not difficult. So if you 1234 01:03:56,040 --> 01:03:59,680 Speaker 1: get it right, you feel merely relieved, as opposed to 1235 01:03:59,760 --> 01:04:02,960 Speaker 1: if you missed it, you feel devastated and so stupid. 1236 01:04:03,280 --> 01:04:04,919 Speaker 1: And by the way, at home really are like fuck 1237 01:04:05,000 --> 01:04:07,920 Speaker 1: that fucking idiot. Ye right. And by the way, if 1238 01:04:07,960 --> 01:04:09,880 Speaker 1: you want to family feud, I guarantee you're not coming 1239 01:04:09,960 --> 01:04:12,880 Speaker 1: up with every answer. No, you know, no, I would 1240 01:04:12,880 --> 01:04:15,920 Speaker 1: stuck at family feud. I think that family feud it 1241 01:04:15,960 --> 01:04:17,280 Speaker 1: will be just one of those things where I think 1242 01:04:17,280 --> 01:04:20,280 Speaker 1: I'd be good at the last part. Yeah, just like 1243 01:04:20,320 --> 01:04:22,880 Speaker 1: the the call and response, it's like improv Yeah, but 1244 01:04:23,000 --> 01:04:26,120 Speaker 1: you you want to be closer to Steve because you 1245 01:04:26,160 --> 01:04:28,560 Speaker 1: want to be the one that goes and not be 1246 01:04:28,640 --> 01:04:31,360 Speaker 1: the person that's like or what are things that a 1247 01:04:31,440 --> 01:04:33,960 Speaker 1: wife might say to us man, and you're like, you 1248 01:04:34,000 --> 01:04:36,840 Speaker 1: need to eat my pussy And it's like and then 1249 01:04:37,040 --> 01:04:38,720 Speaker 1: it's like you give it to him, but like it's 1250 01:04:38,720 --> 01:04:42,360 Speaker 1: not right, you know what I mean? But you don't 1251 01:04:42,400 --> 01:04:44,240 Speaker 1: want to be last on the end. Like I think 1252 01:04:44,280 --> 01:04:47,160 Speaker 1: that's what families make the mistake of. They put the 1253 01:04:47,200 --> 01:04:49,680 Speaker 1: flops on the end. The black strips of the family 1254 01:04:49,680 --> 01:04:52,000 Speaker 1: are on the end. That's where the points are made. Yeah, 1255 01:04:52,080 --> 01:04:54,280 Speaker 1: because of Marissa is on the end. She's not really 1256 01:04:54,280 --> 01:04:56,040 Speaker 1: in our family, but we need an extra spot? What 1257 01:04:56,080 --> 01:04:59,360 Speaker 1: do you think? And then it's just like I don't know, 1258 01:05:00,120 --> 01:05:02,360 Speaker 1: but you know, what are our thoughts on Steve Harvey 1259 01:05:02,400 --> 01:05:05,280 Speaker 1: as host? I do think, I mean, he's good at 1260 01:05:05,280 --> 01:05:07,440 Speaker 1: what he does. I think he's a great speaking voice. 1261 01:05:07,640 --> 01:05:09,800 Speaker 1: I think so too. But I will say this, he 1262 01:05:09,840 --> 01:05:12,520 Speaker 1: really will just do the sorry, what's the thing called 1263 01:05:12,520 --> 01:05:14,880 Speaker 1: when you corpse or like when you look at the 1264 01:05:14,880 --> 01:05:19,160 Speaker 1: camera when people say anything. He's not even paying attention. 1265 01:05:19,640 --> 01:05:23,040 Speaker 1: He's corpsing sort of in a way that is like, um, 1266 01:05:23,080 --> 01:05:26,200 Speaker 1: he's also not he's also an actual literal corpse. And 1267 01:05:26,200 --> 01:05:29,640 Speaker 1: then he's he's weaking a burdens Burns like every year 1268 01:05:31,120 --> 01:05:33,480 Speaker 1: because he knows it works. I'm sure you can film 1269 01:05:33,520 --> 01:05:37,640 Speaker 1: like eight episodes that in to day too. Sure, Yeah, honestly, 1270 01:05:37,680 --> 01:05:39,880 Speaker 1: I find it very captivating as a as a host, 1271 01:05:39,920 --> 01:05:41,800 Speaker 1: I love it. But I came up on Louis Anderson 1272 01:05:41,920 --> 01:05:45,960 Speaker 1: for who was awesome a great family feud host, and 1273 01:05:45,960 --> 01:05:47,919 Speaker 1: not enough people talk about his time on that show, 1274 01:05:48,160 --> 01:05:50,439 Speaker 1: you know. And and then on the show I'm on now, 1275 01:05:50,560 --> 01:05:53,600 Speaker 1: the makeup artists work on baskets and they say he 1276 01:05:53,720 --> 01:05:56,840 Speaker 1: was the nice like just like such a sweet guy. 1277 01:05:57,000 --> 01:05:59,280 Speaker 1: I'm like, what a loss, I think. Um. Also, I 1278 01:05:59,280 --> 01:06:02,000 Speaker 1: believe Casey Wilson had a comments about him recently where 1279 01:06:02,040 --> 01:06:05,440 Speaker 1: she said that, um, she was at an event with 1280 01:06:05,520 --> 01:06:08,080 Speaker 1: him and she complimented him on baskets and he turned 1281 01:06:08,080 --> 01:06:09,560 Speaker 1: to her and he said, you know, I'm playing my 1282 01:06:09,600 --> 01:06:12,200 Speaker 1: mother and it's a tribute to her. And she was like, oh, well, 1283 01:06:12,240 --> 01:06:15,120 Speaker 1: I lost my mother. And he said to her, um, 1284 01:06:15,200 --> 01:06:16,960 Speaker 1: oh my god, what was her name? And she said 1285 01:06:17,000 --> 01:06:19,360 Speaker 1: her name? And he looked to this guy and said hello, 1286 01:06:19,840 --> 01:06:22,080 Speaker 1: the name, thank you, and like there was tears in 1287 01:06:22,120 --> 01:06:23,840 Speaker 1: his eyes and then he walked away. Apparently he was 1288 01:06:23,920 --> 01:06:26,680 Speaker 1: just like a beautiful soul who like really like was 1289 01:06:26,720 --> 01:06:32,160 Speaker 1: giving that performance, you know, like and no ego or 1290 01:06:32,280 --> 01:06:34,200 Speaker 1: like thought about like the fact that he was like, 1291 01:06:34,280 --> 01:06:35,840 Speaker 1: you know, dressing up as a woman to play it, 1292 01:06:35,920 --> 01:06:38,840 Speaker 1: just like genuinely playing No. You could tell that the 1293 01:06:38,960 --> 01:06:41,560 Speaker 1: like Emmy gauntlet of it all was bewildering to him, 1294 01:06:41,600 --> 01:06:44,600 Speaker 1: and he was just happy to have gotten there. Yeah, 1295 01:06:45,120 --> 01:06:47,320 Speaker 1: he was very he was very, very, very special. And 1296 01:06:47,360 --> 01:06:49,280 Speaker 1: then he was replaced on Family Food with Richard Carne, 1297 01:06:49,280 --> 01:06:50,880 Speaker 1: who seems like a nice guy and was so bad 1298 01:06:50,920 --> 01:06:52,640 Speaker 1: on the show. And then I feel like maybe that 1299 01:06:52,880 --> 01:06:55,560 Speaker 1: like washed away the memory of Louis Anderson. And then 1300 01:06:55,560 --> 01:06:57,760 Speaker 1: Steve Harvey hosted and it became the most popular it's 1301 01:06:57,760 --> 01:06:59,880 Speaker 1: ever been, which, by the way, is a crazy feat 1302 01:06:59,880 --> 01:07:03,640 Speaker 1: for a show that debuted in the What is this 1303 01:07:03,680 --> 01:07:07,000 Speaker 1: new show that Rue is hosting? Lingo? So that is 1304 01:07:07,040 --> 01:07:09,440 Speaker 1: basically word all, but it's a game show that It's 1305 01:07:09,440 --> 01:07:11,760 Speaker 1: had several literations. The one I'm most familiar with was 1306 01:07:11,840 --> 01:07:14,760 Speaker 1: the game show Network version in the two thousand's, hosted 1307 01:07:14,760 --> 01:07:17,480 Speaker 1: by Chuck Willory, former Wheel of Fortune host um. It 1308 01:07:17,520 --> 01:07:21,360 Speaker 1: was originally hosted by Ronald Reagan's son, Michael Reagan. Very strange, 1309 01:07:21,440 --> 01:07:24,200 Speaker 1: but yeah, it's, uh, you're figuring out what a five 1310 01:07:24,280 --> 01:07:26,320 Speaker 1: letter word is. You're given the first letter, you call 1311 01:07:26,360 --> 01:07:28,320 Speaker 1: out a five letter word, and then they tell you 1312 01:07:28,360 --> 01:07:30,240 Speaker 1: what letters are in the right place. What once, aren't 1313 01:07:30,280 --> 01:07:33,160 Speaker 1: you have a couple of chances to it is? Okay? 1314 01:07:33,200 --> 01:07:35,960 Speaker 1: So yeah, great, I feel like it's been time for 1315 01:07:36,040 --> 01:07:39,040 Speaker 1: Rue to host a show like that. Yes, yes, I 1316 01:07:39,120 --> 01:07:44,520 Speaker 1: actually enjoyed Gay for Pay. I like, you know, it 1317 01:07:44,600 --> 01:07:46,080 Speaker 1: was it was really fun. It was sort of like 1318 01:07:46,080 --> 01:07:48,960 Speaker 1: a fucking fag version of like, you know, like what's 1319 01:07:49,160 --> 01:07:53,680 Speaker 1: like game? But yeah, like it was fun and like 1320 01:07:54,000 --> 01:07:57,480 Speaker 1: I feel like Rue is so invigorated by that ship, 1321 01:07:57,840 --> 01:07:59,280 Speaker 1: like you know what I mean, he feels like like 1322 01:07:59,720 --> 01:08:03,120 Speaker 1: this same type of passion and real love for that 1323 01:08:03,320 --> 01:08:06,720 Speaker 1: art form. No, Rue came and hosted Jimmy Kimmel Alive 1324 01:08:07,080 --> 01:08:09,920 Speaker 1: and the head writers on my show were like, well, queen, 1325 01:08:09,960 --> 01:08:12,880 Speaker 1: here's your time and pushed me at him and I 1326 01:08:12,920 --> 01:08:14,640 Speaker 1: got to write a couple of sketches for him. I mean, 1327 01:08:14,640 --> 01:08:16,920 Speaker 1: I have to say it was gratifying to feel like 1328 01:08:16,920 --> 01:08:19,680 Speaker 1: a kindred spirit with him. Any fucking reference would come 1329 01:08:19,720 --> 01:08:22,680 Speaker 1: up and I'm like, yes, you are this person. I 1330 01:08:22,760 --> 01:08:24,840 Speaker 1: had lots of ideas about what he could be, and 1331 01:08:24,880 --> 01:08:28,639 Speaker 1: what he was was very encouraging. Yeah, I maybe told 1332 01:08:28,680 --> 01:08:31,000 Speaker 1: you this. One time I went into his dressing room 1333 01:08:31,040 --> 01:08:34,400 Speaker 1: I forget why, and he had a computer open and 1334 01:08:34,439 --> 01:08:37,800 Speaker 1: he's just watching old episodes of Charlie's Angels. He goes, 1335 01:08:38,000 --> 01:08:42,320 Speaker 1: he goes, those girls really had chemistry. He was like, 1336 01:08:42,360 --> 01:08:45,000 Speaker 1: I agree, you know he really is, Like he's like 1337 01:08:45,120 --> 01:08:47,679 Speaker 1: he is just like a classic fag. You know, that's 1338 01:08:47,680 --> 01:08:49,960 Speaker 1: the who else is want. I just want to give 1339 01:08:50,000 --> 01:08:53,759 Speaker 1: him credit. Cola Scola is a classic. Talked to him forever, 1340 01:08:53,840 --> 01:08:55,200 Speaker 1: but every once in a while he list meshed with 1341 01:08:55,200 --> 01:08:57,439 Speaker 1: me with Luis, have you seen this glorious Swanson interview? 1342 01:08:57,479 --> 01:08:59,040 Speaker 1: And I'm like, I have a tear in my eye already. 1343 01:08:59,160 --> 01:09:01,200 Speaker 1: Thank you. We were at this party like last week. 1344 01:09:01,360 --> 01:09:02,920 Speaker 1: All three of us were like I remember I think 1345 01:09:02,920 --> 01:09:05,800 Speaker 1: it was like Joel's boyfriend talking about Happy Orange talking 1346 01:09:05,800 --> 01:09:07,479 Speaker 1: about Happy Orange. I was like, oh my god. Yeah, 1347 01:09:07,479 --> 01:09:08,880 Speaker 1: Like it's like this is just a thing that like 1348 01:09:09,479 --> 01:09:14,639 Speaker 1: all queers have gathered around their televisions and watched. I lost. 1349 01:09:15,000 --> 01:09:17,960 Speaker 1: I lost. It's so so brilliant. I mean, there's nothing 1350 01:09:18,000 --> 01:09:20,599 Speaker 1: I mean and like I'm I'm I'm on this, I'm 1351 01:09:20,600 --> 01:09:23,439 Speaker 1: on this project. Now. We're like I'm working with these 1352 01:09:23,439 --> 01:09:27,360 Speaker 1: two people who like love of different generations, who are 1353 01:09:27,400 --> 01:09:32,840 Speaker 1: obsessed with him that that happens a lot like him 1354 01:09:33,160 --> 01:09:35,400 Speaker 1: thank you God, thank you God. But it's not even 1355 01:09:35,439 --> 01:09:36,960 Speaker 1: it's not even amy. It's like all these people who 1356 01:09:36,960 --> 01:09:39,479 Speaker 1: are like who have no who do not care what 1357 01:09:39,560 --> 01:09:43,240 Speaker 1: our generation does, except for people like Cole, and I'm like, yep, 1358 01:09:43,720 --> 01:09:46,680 Speaker 1: deserves it genuinely. I mean we I always say, my God, 1359 01:09:46,760 --> 01:09:51,479 Speaker 1: damn hero like so truly and in another class. Um. 1360 01:09:51,560 --> 01:09:55,120 Speaker 1: But as a as Cloris Leachman once said about pauland 1361 01:09:55,400 --> 01:10:03,800 Speaker 1: Born finished, that's always good. That's good. Couldn't be me, 1362 01:10:04,000 --> 01:10:14,200 Speaker 1: couldn't be me. I think it might be time time. 1363 01:10:14,400 --> 01:10:17,160 Speaker 1: So this is I don't think so honey, everybody at home. 1364 01:10:17,280 --> 01:10:20,200 Speaker 1: And this is the one minute segment that we do routinely, 1365 01:10:20,280 --> 01:10:22,600 Speaker 1: in fact, every single time on this podcast, where we 1366 01:10:22,720 --> 01:10:25,920 Speaker 1: take one minute to rail and rant and rap again 1367 01:10:26,080 --> 01:10:31,679 Speaker 1: something in pop culture that I think we need it sucks, 1368 01:10:31,840 --> 01:10:35,880 Speaker 1: yes we must. And traditionally I go first, and I 1369 01:10:35,920 --> 01:10:39,840 Speaker 1: do have a topic. Okay, I'm o'clock. This is Matt Rodgers. 1370 01:10:39,880 --> 01:10:41,400 Speaker 1: And I don't think so many as time starts now, 1371 01:10:41,479 --> 01:10:43,559 Speaker 1: I don't think so many football I don't get it, 1372 01:10:43,600 --> 01:10:47,800 Speaker 1: and I should. My father was an awarded defensive coordinator 1373 01:10:47,840 --> 01:10:51,360 Speaker 1: for almost forty years in Lyndon Hurst High School and I, 1374 01:10:51,600 --> 01:10:54,479 Speaker 1: and I was nicknamed by the cheerleaders little rogers. I 1375 01:10:54,479 --> 01:10:57,240 Speaker 1: had a jersey and everything. Don't fucking get it. Here 1376 01:10:57,240 --> 01:10:59,960 Speaker 1: are the things I understand. First down, I guess yeah, 1377 01:11:00,280 --> 01:11:02,200 Speaker 1: I get getting it past the line, and now we 1378 01:11:02,240 --> 01:11:04,479 Speaker 1: get to keep going. What the funk are the xs 1379 01:11:04,600 --> 01:11:07,120 Speaker 1: ands on the playboards? And I always feel like the 1380 01:11:07,120 --> 01:11:09,000 Speaker 1: fact I don't think so honey, that straight men know 1381 01:11:09,080 --> 01:11:11,080 Speaker 1: how to figure this out and I don't. They can 1382 01:11:11,120 --> 01:11:12,880 Speaker 1: go in a locker room, look up on a white board, 1383 01:11:12,880 --> 01:11:15,479 Speaker 1: there's exs and os and they get it. Why don't 1384 01:11:15,560 --> 01:11:18,720 Speaker 1: I the plays? They're going this way that way. I 1385 01:11:18,760 --> 01:11:21,840 Speaker 1: don't understand how it all works. I don't understand when 1386 01:11:21,920 --> 01:11:24,320 Speaker 1: you decide to kick the ball through the goddamn field 1387 01:11:24,320 --> 01:11:26,320 Speaker 1: goal and when you run it. I would always run it. 1388 01:11:26,320 --> 01:11:29,120 Speaker 1: It's more points. I feel like, what is the deal 1389 01:11:29,120 --> 01:11:31,120 Speaker 1: with football? Also the culture of football? You know, all 1390 01:11:31,120 --> 01:11:33,640 Speaker 1: their brains are mush from collision, collision, collision. We all 1391 01:11:33,640 --> 01:11:36,519 Speaker 1: saw the Will Smith movie, just kidding, we didn't um 1392 01:11:36,520 --> 01:11:40,599 Speaker 1: what was that called? Collateral? Confession? Concussion? But all I'm 1393 01:11:40,600 --> 01:11:42,439 Speaker 1: saying is I don't think so many football and that's 1394 01:11:43,320 --> 01:11:45,080 Speaker 1: thank you. Yes, I don't think there should be an 1395 01:11:45,080 --> 01:11:48,080 Speaker 1: Onion article about what puppies have sustained during the Puppy Bowl. 1396 01:11:49,520 --> 01:11:52,240 Speaker 1: We need to understand what will Smith nonsense. They're all 1397 01:11:52,320 --> 01:11:55,599 Speaker 1: up to the football of it all. I just think 1398 01:11:56,080 --> 01:11:58,920 Speaker 1: that it's one of those things that as a civilization, 1399 01:11:59,360 --> 01:12:02,000 Speaker 1: if we were to zoom out, we look at it 1400 01:12:02,040 --> 01:12:05,120 Speaker 1: and be like not that, like when aliens come, they're 1401 01:12:05,120 --> 01:12:07,400 Speaker 1: gonna be like, you guys, do what, Like it's the 1402 01:12:07,439 --> 01:12:10,280 Speaker 1: only gladiator type thing about this where I'm like, this 1403 01:12:10,360 --> 01:12:13,400 Speaker 1: is not right, Like it's it's so many things had 1404 01:12:13,439 --> 01:12:16,400 Speaker 1: to align for football to be like had this happen 1405 01:12:16,560 --> 01:12:18,519 Speaker 1: in a sequential order for football to be this big, 1406 01:12:18,560 --> 01:12:22,240 Speaker 1: like something there was a glitch in the matrix, otherwise 1407 01:12:22,240 --> 01:12:24,680 Speaker 1: we would be a soccer country. Yeah, Or you know, 1408 01:12:24,720 --> 01:12:27,439 Speaker 1: my promenting sports in general outside of volleyball, which I 1409 01:12:27,479 --> 01:12:30,080 Speaker 1: think should be more popular, is that because they're wearing helmets, 1410 01:12:30,080 --> 01:12:32,519 Speaker 1: I can't see the personal stakes in their eyes. So like, 1411 01:12:32,560 --> 01:12:34,120 Speaker 1: you know, like the moments you get in tennis where 1412 01:12:34,120 --> 01:12:37,160 Speaker 1: it's like, oh, here comes whatever Aronha Sanchez Vicario and 1413 01:12:37,240 --> 01:12:39,760 Speaker 1: she's thinking about something and it's and it's angsty and 1414 01:12:39,840 --> 01:12:42,080 Speaker 1: she had a bad day, Like that doesn't factor into 1415 01:12:42,120 --> 01:12:44,880 Speaker 1: what I get from football, so there's no character study. Yeah, 1416 01:12:44,920 --> 01:12:46,840 Speaker 1: we needed more who wants to be a millionaire vibe 1417 01:12:46,840 --> 01:12:49,160 Speaker 1: where we all are watching one person go through it, 1418 01:12:49,479 --> 01:12:51,479 Speaker 1: and I feel like that to me makes me root 1419 01:12:51,560 --> 01:12:53,840 Speaker 1: for people, like for example, figure scanning. It's all the 1420 01:12:53,920 --> 01:12:56,200 Speaker 1: rage right now at being the Olympics, and when I'm 1421 01:12:56,200 --> 01:12:59,120 Speaker 1: watching it, I'm so stressed out in a good way 1422 01:12:59,120 --> 01:13:01,320 Speaker 1: that I think as a fan this positive where I'm 1423 01:13:01,320 --> 01:13:03,479 Speaker 1: watching Nathan Chan and I know what he's doing is 1424 01:13:03,520 --> 01:13:06,680 Speaker 1: so difficult, and when I see him kill it and 1425 01:13:06,680 --> 01:13:09,599 Speaker 1: then his little face lights up after it, I'm just like, God, 1426 01:13:10,000 --> 01:13:12,640 Speaker 1: this is so true, like a game show, and I 1427 01:13:12,720 --> 01:13:14,760 Speaker 1: just feel like, you know, with the football of it all, 1428 01:13:14,800 --> 01:13:17,080 Speaker 1: it's like I'm zooming out and I don't get like 1429 01:13:17,160 --> 01:13:20,360 Speaker 1: what it is, and I feel like maybe, like chemically, 1430 01:13:20,400 --> 01:13:23,960 Speaker 1: it's just not for me. Obviously, so many millions of 1431 01:13:23,960 --> 01:13:28,799 Speaker 1: people enjoy it, but it's something that I never could penetrate. 1432 01:13:28,800 --> 01:13:32,080 Speaker 1: And what I always thought was interesting is my dad 1433 01:13:32,640 --> 01:13:36,519 Speaker 1: was a football coach's entire life, played football whatever, never 1434 01:13:36,560 --> 01:13:39,000 Speaker 1: ever ever put a football in my hands in the backyard, 1435 01:13:39,120 --> 01:13:41,080 Speaker 1: never wanted to do that. And I said to him, 1436 01:13:41,120 --> 01:13:43,360 Speaker 1: like a couple of years ago, I was like, hey, 1437 01:13:43,560 --> 01:13:46,080 Speaker 1: like baseball was a completely different thing. I played baseball 1438 01:13:46,080 --> 01:13:48,920 Speaker 1: all through high school. Um, but he never ever ever 1439 01:13:48,920 --> 01:13:50,519 Speaker 1: pushed football on me. And I asked him. I was 1440 01:13:50,560 --> 01:13:52,599 Speaker 1: like why. He was like, well, you never showed any 1441 01:13:52,640 --> 01:13:54,799 Speaker 1: interest in it. I'm like, I never showed any interest 1442 01:13:54,880 --> 01:13:58,080 Speaker 1: in baseball, but you encourage it. And he sat there 1443 01:13:58,120 --> 01:14:02,960 Speaker 1: and he actually admitted, he said, you know, I think 1444 01:14:03,040 --> 01:14:06,360 Speaker 1: that I don't think the kids need to be playing it. 1445 01:14:06,640 --> 01:14:09,880 Speaker 1: And I was like, do you acknowledge that it sucks 1446 01:14:10,120 --> 01:14:13,240 Speaker 1: with people in terms of their health and well being? 1447 01:14:13,280 --> 01:14:16,040 Speaker 1: And he was like, I guess maybe I do. And 1448 01:14:16,120 --> 01:14:18,679 Speaker 1: so it's like interesting to see someone from that boomer 1449 01:14:18,720 --> 01:14:24,360 Speaker 1: generation literally say I could coach kids doing it if 1450 01:14:24,400 --> 01:14:28,240 Speaker 1: they opted into it, but not my kid. That's okay. 1451 01:14:28,280 --> 01:14:29,680 Speaker 1: And you have said this to me before, and that 1452 01:14:29,760 --> 01:14:32,559 Speaker 1: is that is that is very interesting. I don't really know. 1453 01:14:32,720 --> 01:14:34,400 Speaker 1: I have nothing to add. I mean, it's just it's 1454 01:14:34,400 --> 01:14:36,240 Speaker 1: just I feel the same disconnect from the sport though. 1455 01:14:36,240 --> 01:14:38,400 Speaker 1: It's like I want to like what people like, like 1456 01:14:38,439 --> 01:14:41,880 Speaker 1: I'm not here to like resist popular things. I feel 1457 01:14:41,960 --> 01:14:44,680 Speaker 1: constantly illiterate about it. It makes me feel bad. I 1458 01:14:44,720 --> 01:14:46,560 Speaker 1: just don't get it well. And that's The thing is, 1459 01:14:46,600 --> 01:14:48,200 Speaker 1: it's like when they really get like when there's a 1460 01:14:48,200 --> 01:14:51,400 Speaker 1: flag on the play and like things stop. I'm like, why, 1461 01:14:51,960 --> 01:14:54,639 Speaker 1: I know I'm someone who understands ship And then there 1462 01:14:54,720 --> 01:14:57,960 Speaker 1: is that little trigger something. By the way, again, where 1463 01:14:57,960 --> 01:15:01,080 Speaker 1: are the fun visuals? Right right? There is that thing 1464 01:15:01,360 --> 01:15:04,679 Speaker 1: when you're growing up queer though, when you don't understand 1465 01:15:04,720 --> 01:15:07,360 Speaker 1: something and you assume, oh, it's because I'm stupid. And 1466 01:15:08,920 --> 01:15:13,160 Speaker 1: movies sometimes, like all the time, all the time, you 1467 01:15:13,200 --> 01:15:16,960 Speaker 1: feel that way, that chrish Liker and it's like we 1468 01:15:17,080 --> 01:15:19,519 Speaker 1: literally sit here and talk about sucking Norma Shearer all day. 1469 01:15:19,560 --> 01:15:22,879 Speaker 1: We are obsessed with movies were important. If I closed 1470 01:15:22,920 --> 01:15:25,280 Speaker 1: my eyes outside of this room and thought about someone 1471 01:15:25,320 --> 01:15:28,479 Speaker 1: who understands film better than anybody, it would be like 1472 01:15:28,720 --> 01:15:30,679 Speaker 1: the two of you, but specifically like you and Chris 1473 01:15:30,720 --> 01:15:33,080 Speaker 1: and Shliker. I'm like, these are two like very but 1474 01:15:33,280 --> 01:15:37,559 Speaker 1: this this is relatable. King Well, I'll say it. Sometimes 1475 01:15:37,560 --> 01:15:40,880 Speaker 1: I'm watching Marvel movies and I'm more confused and complicated drama. 1476 01:15:41,040 --> 01:15:42,840 Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm watching Guarden. When we walked out of 1477 01:15:42,960 --> 01:15:46,200 Speaker 1: we walked out of Guardians, watched the first Guardians we watched. 1478 01:15:46,240 --> 01:15:48,679 Speaker 1: I think more than half of it and I turned 1479 01:15:48,720 --> 01:15:50,160 Speaker 1: to you and I said, the hell is going on? 1480 01:15:50,200 --> 01:15:52,400 Speaker 1: Are you still doing this? And we walked the funk out. 1481 01:15:52,479 --> 01:15:54,840 Speaker 1: I was like, I did not even Glenn close herself 1482 01:15:54,920 --> 01:15:57,639 Speaker 1: can keep me in this seat? And the thirty one 1483 01:15:57,680 --> 01:16:00,519 Speaker 1: seconds of air time. You know, she's a lead of 1484 01:16:00,560 --> 01:16:06,240 Speaker 1: the ride, so she is she's playing of learning this news. 1485 01:16:05,920 --> 01:16:08,680 Speaker 1: She was like she was she was. They released like 1486 01:16:08,680 --> 01:16:10,639 Speaker 1: a commercial for the ride which is coming out this summer, 1487 01:16:10,680 --> 01:16:14,599 Speaker 1: and she's like, Hi, I'm Optimal Clark and we're gonna 1488 01:16:14,680 --> 01:16:17,720 Speaker 1: We're gonna ride the bugoon to the moon and it's 1489 01:16:17,720 --> 01:16:20,000 Speaker 1: gonna be you and I and I've cut this summer. 1490 01:16:20,439 --> 01:16:23,120 Speaker 1: Stay you there and bring your pown floon. And it's like, 1491 01:16:23,280 --> 01:16:27,600 Speaker 1: I don't understand. What the fuck? What is the vocabulary? No, 1492 01:16:27,720 --> 01:16:29,960 Speaker 1: I will never forgive people to tell for telling me 1493 01:16:30,000 --> 01:16:32,960 Speaker 1: to see thor Ragnar because Kate Blanchet was in a girlfriend. 1494 01:16:32,960 --> 01:16:34,800 Speaker 1: They could have cut her out of that. It was 1495 01:16:34,840 --> 01:16:37,599 Speaker 1: not good. I don't care about her. And Antler's Yeah, 1496 01:16:37,680 --> 01:16:40,800 Speaker 1: what was her name, Velka or something? Yeah, that's what 1497 01:16:40,920 --> 01:16:44,360 Speaker 1: her name. Isn't the Dragon movie? Okay, I train your Dragon, 1498 01:16:45,400 --> 01:16:49,960 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter, it's anyway. Yeah, it wasn't even that 1499 01:16:50,000 --> 01:16:55,160 Speaker 1: fun for her, It wasn't even that fun. It should 1500 01:16:55,160 --> 01:16:57,439 Speaker 1: have been. It should have been like the Halloween costume 1501 01:16:57,479 --> 01:17:00,760 Speaker 1: for fag and yet like it didn't. John. But I 1502 01:17:00,800 --> 01:17:04,120 Speaker 1: will say, like I'm I'm in support of like a 1503 01:17:04,280 --> 01:17:06,640 Speaker 1: list actress says, who are better than it coming in 1504 01:17:06,720 --> 01:17:09,280 Speaker 1: for one, Like I'm in support of that. How do 1505 01:17:09,280 --> 01:17:11,320 Speaker 1: you feel like about Natalie Portman coming in for this, 1506 01:17:11,400 --> 01:17:13,439 Speaker 1: for this, for this next door movie kind of leading 1507 01:17:13,479 --> 01:17:15,679 Speaker 1: the whole thing because who else is Vanity fair career 1508 01:17:15,720 --> 01:17:18,920 Speaker 1: timeline video. I'm obsessed with his, Natalie's. Both of them 1509 01:17:18,960 --> 01:17:22,479 Speaker 1: I think are like very close peers. And I'm not 1510 01:17:22,520 --> 01:17:24,880 Speaker 1: saying anything new, but it's like I just really think 1511 01:17:24,880 --> 01:17:27,280 Speaker 1: that they from from starting out as child actors to 1512 01:17:27,400 --> 01:17:31,519 Speaker 1: like becoming prestigie. Um, Natalie, I guess outpacing Curston a 1513 01:17:31,520 --> 01:17:34,360 Speaker 1: bit just earlier in terms of the aco right right, 1514 01:17:34,400 --> 01:17:37,720 Speaker 1: But for her, I think I think people can have 1515 01:17:37,840 --> 01:17:41,280 Speaker 1: long considered themselves Natalieportman stands right right right. Um. I 1516 01:17:41,280 --> 01:17:45,040 Speaker 1: always feel though, like, um, the thor m C movies 1517 01:17:45,800 --> 01:17:51,679 Speaker 1: are because they're Taika, they're a little since the last 1518 01:17:51,720 --> 01:17:53,200 Speaker 1: one yet yeah, and they're a little bit more they 1519 01:17:53,280 --> 01:17:54,640 Speaker 1: let the actors have fun a little bit more on. 1520 01:17:54,680 --> 01:17:57,160 Speaker 1: They're a little bit more off kilter and off beaten, funnier, 1521 01:17:57,200 --> 01:17:59,040 Speaker 1: and so I think she is creatively involved. I'm sure 1522 01:17:59,040 --> 01:18:00,920 Speaker 1: she'll make it fun for her. But when I see 1523 01:18:00,920 --> 01:18:06,160 Speaker 1: her in like, you're a highness. This is her movie, 1524 01:18:06,200 --> 01:18:10,320 Speaker 1: wasn't It had the feeling of film before the Yeah, 1525 01:18:10,320 --> 01:18:12,240 Speaker 1: for sure, and then no strings attached, coming out at 1526 01:18:12,240 --> 01:18:13,840 Speaker 1: the same time as Black Swan and everyone being like, 1527 01:18:13,960 --> 01:18:16,400 Speaker 1: is this gonna hurt her? Yeah? You know that whole thing. 1528 01:18:16,479 --> 01:18:18,840 Speaker 1: I just want Black Swan again. It's so good, it 1529 01:18:18,920 --> 01:18:21,439 Speaker 1: is really entertaining. I do think it's about nothing, though, 1530 01:18:21,479 --> 01:18:22,960 Speaker 1: and I don't know that I love it as a win. 1531 01:18:23,640 --> 01:18:25,880 Speaker 1: I love it. I think it's about a lot. It's 1532 01:18:26,120 --> 01:18:30,680 Speaker 1: it should be called woman is Upset. I mean we 1533 01:18:30,720 --> 01:18:34,840 Speaker 1: are famously Natalie. Amila's Natalie, and I'm Mila, and I 1534 01:18:34,880 --> 01:18:40,400 Speaker 1: love it. Chrisler and I call ourselves Rinko in Adriana, 1535 01:18:41,720 --> 01:18:46,640 Speaker 1: Who's Rinco? Who's Adriana? I think I'm Rinko. I can 1536 01:18:46,680 --> 01:18:48,760 Speaker 1: see Chris started running through the desert in that first 1537 01:18:48,760 --> 01:18:53,240 Speaker 1: scene as Adriana talk about two people who got nominations, 1538 01:18:53,240 --> 01:18:56,240 Speaker 1: and then like what Ricocchi, Yeah, you didn't she do 1539 01:18:56,320 --> 01:18:59,360 Speaker 1: one thing? What is she? What did rinko? Who? No, 1540 01:18:59,600 --> 01:19:01,880 Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know. Bring it back? They 1541 01:19:01,920 --> 01:19:07,519 Speaker 1: got the moving to supporting actress dominations right anyways, um 1542 01:19:07,680 --> 01:19:09,600 Speaker 1: Bone Yang, it might be time for your out of 1543 01:19:09,640 --> 01:19:11,160 Speaker 1: think honey, if you would like to go, I would 1544 01:19:11,200 --> 01:19:13,880 Speaker 1: love to And that is the answer I like. Um so, 1545 01:19:14,040 --> 01:19:17,040 Speaker 1: this is bo and Yang the most iconic men in Hollywood. 1546 01:19:17,320 --> 01:19:21,320 Speaker 1: One of the most iconic, I'll take it, sexiest men alive. 1547 01:19:22,360 --> 01:19:26,760 Speaker 1: Powerful butt hole. Um well I found a week Yeah, 1548 01:19:27,000 --> 01:19:29,479 Speaker 1: Lewis didn't like, I say, one of the most powerful 1549 01:19:29,520 --> 01:19:33,120 Speaker 1: assholes in Hollywood. Physically yes, And this is where I 1550 01:19:33,120 --> 01:19:35,040 Speaker 1: don't make any time shots now, I don't think so, honey. 1551 01:19:35,120 --> 01:19:40,559 Speaker 1: Hotel trash cans please be bigger. I need you to 1552 01:19:40,720 --> 01:19:43,920 Speaker 1: hold more. You need to be a vessel, and you 1553 01:19:43,960 --> 01:19:47,200 Speaker 1: were giving me a little cup holder scale. Will give 1554 01:19:47,479 --> 01:19:51,400 Speaker 1: us the depth that we require of you, because otherwise 1555 01:19:51,400 --> 01:19:55,760 Speaker 1: you're setting us up for true like slovenly, I think, 1556 01:19:55,800 --> 01:19:58,200 Speaker 1: I think it really does. I never feel more slovenly 1557 01:19:58,200 --> 01:20:00,040 Speaker 1: than I do in a hotel room, not because of 1558 01:20:00,160 --> 01:20:04,599 Speaker 1: anything else besides the trash spilling out the overflow. There's 1559 01:20:04,640 --> 01:20:06,559 Speaker 1: no way to make that look good to organize it. 1560 01:20:06,600 --> 01:20:09,160 Speaker 1: And then especially in like in the post COVID world 1561 01:20:09,320 --> 01:20:12,120 Speaker 1: and in a COVID world, I should say where some 1562 01:20:12,200 --> 01:20:15,160 Speaker 1: hotels are only doing every other day housekeeping, which I respect, 1563 01:20:15,240 --> 01:20:18,040 Speaker 1: that's fine. I don't think it really. I think this 1564 01:20:18,080 --> 01:20:19,760 Speaker 1: is one of those things that needs to die. As 1565 01:20:19,800 --> 01:20:22,160 Speaker 1: we learned to live with the virus quote unquote, but 1566 01:20:22,840 --> 01:20:25,360 Speaker 1: bigger trash cans, it's been. It's been. We've been needing 1567 01:20:25,439 --> 01:20:28,519 Speaker 1: them since the beginning of time. Bigger hotel trash cans. 1568 01:20:28,800 --> 01:20:30,800 Speaker 1: I am. I'm living in my own filth right now, 1569 01:20:30,800 --> 01:20:33,240 Speaker 1: and I know I'm not this person. Please please, please 1570 01:20:33,240 --> 01:20:35,080 Speaker 1: be bigger. I beg you, and that's a minute. Be 1571 01:20:35,560 --> 01:20:39,479 Speaker 1: they say, be better, be bigger. Thank you for pulling that, 1572 01:20:39,800 --> 01:20:42,679 Speaker 1: because it's something that I always think and never never 1573 01:20:42,800 --> 01:20:45,160 Speaker 1: make an issue out of it. They're so small, and 1574 01:20:45,240 --> 01:20:46,920 Speaker 1: you know what happens. You know, you're at a hotel, 1575 01:20:46,960 --> 01:20:48,479 Speaker 1: You walk down the street and there's a seven eleven, 1576 01:20:48,479 --> 01:20:49,960 Speaker 1: You get like a Gatorade or something, and then you 1577 01:20:50,000 --> 01:20:51,680 Speaker 1: come back and throw it out. Guess what half the 1578 01:20:51,680 --> 01:20:54,760 Speaker 1: garbage can is a Gatorade bottle? Now, and you feel 1579 01:20:54,840 --> 01:20:57,000 Speaker 1: like you're that person. I guess I'm the person who 1580 01:20:57,040 --> 01:21:01,840 Speaker 1: drinks Gatorade all the time. I'm Gatorade girl. Now, I'm 1581 01:21:01,880 --> 01:21:04,240 Speaker 1: gatorade girl. Now I'm getting paid for this nice hotel, 1582 01:21:04,280 --> 01:21:07,920 Speaker 1: and I'm girl. I don't not care what the housekeepers think. 1583 01:21:08,000 --> 01:21:10,200 Speaker 1: There is something, especially if it's let's say you're at 1584 01:21:10,200 --> 01:21:12,759 Speaker 1: a nice hotel and there's not not that there's anything 1585 01:21:12,960 --> 01:21:17,120 Speaker 1: classed about having gatorade or drinking gatorade, but something about 1586 01:21:17,120 --> 01:21:20,679 Speaker 1: a gatorade being in a fancy hotel trash can doesn't 1587 01:21:20,720 --> 01:21:23,439 Speaker 1: really Now I'm not getting my money's worth, even though 1588 01:21:23,479 --> 01:21:27,080 Speaker 1: I did it exactly. I just and I'll say again, 1589 01:21:28,040 --> 01:21:32,200 Speaker 1: I don't want the housekeepers thinking I'm garbage. I don't 1590 01:21:32,240 --> 01:21:35,559 Speaker 1: want them to think I'm averages. There's seeing so much. 1591 01:21:36,720 --> 01:21:40,080 Speaker 1: They're like hardened professionals. They can't possibly see your gum 1592 01:21:40,160 --> 01:21:43,040 Speaker 1: or whatever and think what allows. But sometimes though, okay, 1593 01:21:43,080 --> 01:21:47,439 Speaker 1: I'll be vulnerable. Sometimes there's common thing I worry about 1594 01:21:47,520 --> 01:21:51,519 Speaker 1: coming and I worry about sometimes like and this is 1595 01:21:51,560 --> 01:21:54,639 Speaker 1: not a big deal, but like pissing the toilet. Don't 1596 01:21:54,840 --> 01:21:58,240 Speaker 1: anyone coming in and seeing my piss? Like I have 1597 01:21:58,280 --> 01:22:01,519 Speaker 1: like an anti kink about piss in the toilet, boll 1598 01:22:01,600 --> 01:22:04,599 Speaker 1: being left there. Oh sure, I understand. It's like yellow, 1599 01:22:04,680 --> 01:22:08,160 Speaker 1: let it mellow, like save water, etcetera. The dolphins, the oceans, 1600 01:22:08,160 --> 01:22:11,400 Speaker 1: the whales. I just feel like my thing is just 1601 01:22:11,479 --> 01:22:15,760 Speaker 1: like I don't like to see it. Yeah right, it's 1602 01:22:15,800 --> 01:22:22,040 Speaker 1: not appetizing. It's horrible, exactly right. But you're like a scientist. 1603 01:22:22,120 --> 01:22:24,120 Speaker 1: Do you have all the terms? That's what That's what 1604 01:22:24,160 --> 01:22:26,120 Speaker 1: everyone says. You know, this podcast has been cited in 1605 01:22:26,160 --> 01:22:29,439 Speaker 1: academic work? Oh has it for our insight into the 1606 01:22:29,479 --> 01:22:34,040 Speaker 1: entertainment industry? Oh? God, that's too bad. I couldn't believe it. 1607 01:22:34,240 --> 01:22:38,080 Speaker 1: Like I went to I stumbled him on the Wikipedia 1608 01:22:38,080 --> 01:22:39,840 Speaker 1: and it was like the podcast has been cited in 1609 01:22:39,960 --> 01:22:42,240 Speaker 1: academic work. And I was like, I clicked the site 1610 01:22:42,280 --> 01:22:45,240 Speaker 1: and I was like, where the fuck is this? Like 1611 01:22:45,360 --> 01:22:49,400 Speaker 1: lo and behold. It was like it was something like 1612 01:22:49,640 --> 01:22:52,240 Speaker 1: how it's hard to get queer art made and it 1613 01:22:52,280 --> 01:22:58,479 Speaker 1: said Rogers and Yang and see. I thought the work 1614 01:22:58,560 --> 01:23:00,200 Speaker 1: was going to be academic work, was going to be 1615 01:23:00,280 --> 01:23:05,600 Speaker 1: like some like fucking thesis on like gay histrionic behavior 1616 01:23:05,920 --> 01:23:11,439 Speaker 1: or like two people, and it was about every episode 1617 01:23:11,439 --> 01:23:15,760 Speaker 1: we released in June of last year. No, but anyway, yeah, no, 1618 01:23:16,200 --> 01:23:18,960 Speaker 1: the housekeeping of it all, I'm conscious of it. And 1619 01:23:19,000 --> 01:23:21,080 Speaker 1: the trash cans are a little and it's a stack deck. 1620 01:23:21,200 --> 01:23:26,439 Speaker 1: It's a stack deck. Literally, it's overflowing. And the deal 1621 01:23:26,520 --> 01:23:28,200 Speaker 1: is you need a bigger garbage can. It just needs 1622 01:23:28,200 --> 01:23:30,519 Speaker 1: to be put somewhere that you don't see it. Thank you. 1623 01:23:30,840 --> 01:23:32,559 Speaker 1: How are how are you? How well are you keeping 1624 01:23:32,600 --> 01:23:34,800 Speaker 1: your apartment these days? Well, you know, that's like my 1625 01:23:35,080 --> 01:23:36,960 Speaker 1: one of the things I am worsed at. I have 1626 01:23:37,000 --> 01:23:40,400 Speaker 1: no organizational qualities whatsoever. My my mom was always like, 1627 01:23:40,680 --> 01:23:43,879 Speaker 1: I should come sometimes so I can clean it. It's prophetic. 1628 01:23:44,000 --> 01:23:45,840 Speaker 1: I just I just don't have this get you should 1629 01:23:45,840 --> 01:23:47,920 Speaker 1: get someone to come quiet. I know it's not hard. 1630 01:23:48,000 --> 01:23:50,080 Speaker 1: I should probably just do that. I don't do it either. 1631 01:23:50,120 --> 01:23:53,000 Speaker 1: I'm just saying I become better. Like, honestly, this is 1632 01:23:53,000 --> 01:23:55,320 Speaker 1: such a cliche, but if I am having like someone 1633 01:23:55,360 --> 01:23:59,400 Speaker 1: over to hook up, then I magically the ability to clean. Yeah, 1634 01:23:59,520 --> 01:24:02,400 Speaker 1: you just need it's some steady motivation to like, I 1635 01:24:02,400 --> 01:24:05,040 Speaker 1: don't know, every two weeks do a deep clean. Yeah, 1636 01:24:05,040 --> 01:24:07,000 Speaker 1: I guess that schedule hook up every two weeks. That 1637 01:24:07,240 --> 01:24:10,920 Speaker 1: help me, Honestly, especially now that you're in the hotel 1638 01:24:11,280 --> 01:24:14,920 Speaker 1: clean up. Something about this hotel that I'm staying at 1639 01:24:14,960 --> 01:24:18,280 Speaker 1: It's not sex. Burbank Acount was so deeply unsexy, and 1640 01:24:18,280 --> 01:24:19,920 Speaker 1: it's I will I don't want to have I'm in 1641 01:24:19,920 --> 01:24:22,479 Speaker 1: no moody to bring people over. But it's okay. There's 1642 01:24:22,479 --> 01:24:24,759 Speaker 1: also something. The problem with Burbank is also the definitive 1643 01:24:24,800 --> 01:24:27,080 Speaker 1: pop culture memories. They would always say that's what this 1644 01:24:27,280 --> 01:24:29,320 Speaker 1: Night Show with Jay Lena was, right, So I think 1645 01:24:29,320 --> 01:24:31,000 Speaker 1: of that every time I'm there. And it's been thirteen 1646 01:24:31,080 --> 01:24:32,320 Speaker 1: years since I've lived in l A. I have not 1647 01:24:32,400 --> 01:24:36,120 Speaker 1: shut it yet. Like I only recently shed um Santa 1648 01:24:36,160 --> 01:24:40,880 Speaker 1: Monica Boulevard, not thinking of the Sheryl Crow song. I'm 1649 01:24:40,880 --> 01:24:44,080 Speaker 1: not shed Santa Monica. Um, I think of private practice. Still. 1650 01:24:44,360 --> 01:24:47,200 Speaker 1: When I think of Santa Monica as a place, I thinkright, 1651 01:24:47,280 --> 01:24:50,240 Speaker 1: private practice. You know what silesten to the other day. 1652 01:24:50,720 --> 01:25:00,439 Speaker 1: Um uh, everything gonna be like it's like um Sun 1653 01:25:00,560 --> 01:25:02,760 Speaker 1: Mullins and it's like all about being in l A. 1654 01:25:02,880 --> 01:25:08,240 Speaker 1: It's like she grew up in the city stars the choice. 1655 01:25:11,120 --> 01:25:14,080 Speaker 1: It's like some experience through big parties. It's literally like 1656 01:25:14,120 --> 01:25:18,519 Speaker 1: a bad Jack Nicholson impression. Literally is okay. So Lewis 1657 01:25:18,560 --> 01:25:21,479 Speaker 1: for tell, this is really the first plan I don't 1658 01:25:21,520 --> 01:25:23,840 Speaker 1: think so, Hony, You've done popped the hell off about 1659 01:25:23,920 --> 01:25:26,000 Speaker 1: Chelsea c I feel like this isn't really my art form. 1660 01:25:26,040 --> 01:25:27,280 Speaker 1: But we'll see how I go. I don't think they're 1661 01:25:27,280 --> 01:25:30,639 Speaker 1: going to We almost never know what we're doing until 1662 01:25:30,680 --> 01:25:34,160 Speaker 1: seconds before, and that's beautiful. And this a moment in 1663 01:25:34,200 --> 01:25:36,200 Speaker 1: time is Lewis for tells. I don't think so, honey, 1664 01:25:36,240 --> 01:25:38,280 Speaker 1: his time starts now. I don't think so, honey, starring 1665 01:25:38,360 --> 01:25:42,760 Speaker 1: Jessica Alba. About the price of razor blades, Honey, you 1666 01:25:42,760 --> 01:25:44,679 Speaker 1: want to ruin? You want to ruin a trip to Target. 1667 01:25:44,720 --> 01:25:47,960 Speaker 1: Take a look at the gilette three section, walk on in. Also, 1668 01:25:48,000 --> 01:25:49,240 Speaker 1: let me just say, I know it sound like Walter 1669 01:25:49,320 --> 01:25:51,080 Speaker 1: math how complaining about the price of things right now, 1670 01:25:51,240 --> 01:25:53,240 Speaker 1: But there's something about going to Target where I'm getting 1671 01:25:53,280 --> 01:25:56,160 Speaker 1: my berries, bananas, my five ninety nine copy of Airplane 1672 01:25:56,200 --> 01:25:58,679 Speaker 1: or whatever I need at Target. And then here comes 1673 01:25:58,880 --> 01:26:01,240 Speaker 1: here comes like seasonal to pression setting in as I 1674 01:26:01,240 --> 01:26:03,880 Speaker 1: walk in and need to cut hair off my face. 1675 01:26:04,200 --> 01:26:06,280 Speaker 1: And then you go to the razor section. There's what 1676 01:26:06,800 --> 01:26:09,800 Speaker 1: sixteen of them in a package and they cost Let 1677 01:26:09,840 --> 01:26:11,960 Speaker 1: me just say something about you ever going like buy 1678 01:26:12,000 --> 01:26:14,479 Speaker 1: a set of knives and they're like nineteen dollars. If 1679 01:26:14,479 --> 01:26:17,800 Speaker 1: I'm wrong, knives are larger razor blades. Correct, it makes 1680 01:26:17,840 --> 01:26:19,840 Speaker 1: no sense. And then when you get the razor blades, 1681 01:26:19,920 --> 01:26:22,200 Speaker 1: you need someone from Target to get them off the 1682 01:26:22,360 --> 01:26:24,479 Speaker 1: thing for you. So they come and bring like the 1683 01:26:25,000 --> 01:26:27,280 Speaker 1: Jaws of Life or whatever to get them off the shelf. 1684 01:26:27,360 --> 01:26:28,960 Speaker 1: And you can tell they're thinking under their breath, this 1685 01:26:29,040 --> 01:26:30,840 Speaker 1: is the worst deal in the store. And you have 1686 01:26:30,880 --> 01:26:33,799 Speaker 1: to sit by them and you spend eighty eight dollars 1687 01:26:33,840 --> 01:26:36,840 Speaker 1: because you just want your neck to look fine. I mean, 1688 01:26:36,960 --> 01:26:41,519 Speaker 1: and that's your neck looks amazing. I'm wearing a level 1689 01:26:41,520 --> 01:26:45,120 Speaker 1: of cover. I'm like Greta Garbo on my neck. Well, 1690 01:26:45,240 --> 01:26:48,320 Speaker 1: first of all, there has to be a discussion about 1691 01:26:48,360 --> 01:26:50,679 Speaker 1: what needs the Jaws of Life in a convenience store 1692 01:26:50,680 --> 01:26:53,800 Speaker 1: and what does it yes like why it's like a 1693 01:26:53,920 --> 01:26:58,519 Speaker 1: string of thefts regarding it, and it's whatever fits onto 1694 01:26:58,600 --> 01:27:01,000 Speaker 1: like the little sticks that the thing that has the 1695 01:27:01,000 --> 01:27:03,840 Speaker 1: cut out that looks like a coat hanger. It's whatever 1696 01:27:03,920 --> 01:27:06,760 Speaker 1: can fit onto that because that's the most easily shoplifted thing. 1697 01:27:06,800 --> 01:27:09,799 Speaker 1: I guess I don't know. This is my like really terrible, 1698 01:27:10,080 --> 01:27:14,200 Speaker 1: like my movie The Hide Them yes, the thing is like, 1699 01:27:14,400 --> 01:27:17,080 Speaker 1: but yes, but I totally agree with you. Yeah, I'm 1700 01:27:17,120 --> 01:27:20,040 Speaker 1: completely and I'm saying the alternatives off like Dollar Shave Club. 1701 01:27:20,040 --> 01:27:23,479 Speaker 1: It's like, girl, well that's to see that that that 1702 01:27:23,720 --> 01:27:26,080 Speaker 1: you know you're buying dull knives, like you know you're 1703 01:27:26,080 --> 01:27:28,960 Speaker 1: buying a bloody face, like if you go in there 1704 01:27:28,960 --> 01:27:30,920 Speaker 1: and do that, And honestly, I don't know, how are 1705 01:27:30,920 --> 01:27:34,120 Speaker 1: you guys sensitive and so like it actually really matters 1706 01:27:34,680 --> 01:27:39,880 Speaker 1: that you have good, good like shaving material. But the 1707 01:27:39,920 --> 01:27:43,400 Speaker 1: thing is like it really is expensive, Like it's it's 1708 01:27:43,439 --> 01:27:45,280 Speaker 1: like when you say fifty four dollars, you don't lie. 1709 01:27:45,280 --> 01:27:47,559 Speaker 1: And also those christ White strips are expensive too, and 1710 01:27:47,560 --> 01:27:50,479 Speaker 1: they're behind the there, behind the glass. Do you I'm 1711 01:27:50,520 --> 01:27:52,479 Speaker 1: sorry not to be a full East Coaster. Do you 1712 01:27:52,520 --> 01:27:56,160 Speaker 1: do people get seasonal depression here? I guess it's possible. 1713 01:27:56,200 --> 01:27:58,439 Speaker 1: I mean I don't have depression period, but you have 1714 01:27:58,520 --> 01:28:01,639 Speaker 1: seasonal effective Did you see season effective disorder? Yeah, I'm 1715 01:28:01,640 --> 01:28:04,280 Speaker 1: sure there's a version of absolutely, of course there is. 1716 01:28:04,320 --> 01:28:07,280 Speaker 1: And I this is so stupid. I just I literally 1717 01:28:07,280 --> 01:28:09,800 Speaker 1: am here and I'm like it feels like June, I'm 1718 01:28:09,840 --> 01:28:13,720 Speaker 1: so much happier than I would be when I tell people, 1719 01:28:13,720 --> 01:28:16,040 Speaker 1: and I live here. I'm relieved to live here. Yeah, 1720 01:28:16,840 --> 01:28:19,120 Speaker 1: it's just that that's my only That's where I'm coming 1721 01:28:19,120 --> 01:28:21,000 Speaker 1: from in terms of asking that I feel sad that 1722 01:28:21,040 --> 01:28:24,839 Speaker 1: you have to live in I feel kind of especially 1723 01:28:24,880 --> 01:28:27,439 Speaker 1: after this something about this day. It's maybe it's because 1724 01:28:27,439 --> 01:28:29,800 Speaker 1: I'm reading eve babbits. Maybe it's because I'm like just 1725 01:28:30,000 --> 01:28:32,000 Speaker 1: I'm like hanging out with people. I like, I'm just like, oh, 1726 01:28:32,040 --> 01:28:34,200 Speaker 1: I I like it here, and I kind of prefer 1727 01:28:34,280 --> 01:28:37,439 Speaker 1: this over it. Just like life get a measurably easier here. 1728 01:28:37,520 --> 01:28:39,439 Speaker 1: And it's not even just the weather, which is a 1729 01:28:39,520 --> 01:28:43,160 Speaker 1: huge part of it, but it's also like, um, the 1730 01:28:43,240 --> 01:28:45,559 Speaker 1: idea that you actually can relax. Like I remember when 1731 01:28:45,600 --> 01:28:47,040 Speaker 1: I was living in New York. If I didn't have 1732 01:28:47,080 --> 01:28:49,400 Speaker 1: like four or five things on my calendar in a day, 1733 01:28:49,400 --> 01:28:51,240 Speaker 1: I feel like it was a failure. Now if I 1734 01:28:51,320 --> 01:28:54,200 Speaker 1: do one thing or two things, maybe like I feel 1735 01:28:54,240 --> 01:28:56,760 Speaker 1: like it was a successful day because the work life 1736 01:28:56,760 --> 01:29:00,680 Speaker 1: balance actually just allows itself to take place here in 1737 01:29:00,680 --> 01:29:03,400 Speaker 1: Los Angeles are probably anywhere oversides in New York. Because 1738 01:29:03,640 --> 01:29:07,080 Speaker 1: I'm very susceptible to foam, to foam o oh my god, 1739 01:29:07,200 --> 01:29:09,479 Speaker 1: oh my god, am I susceptible to phoo. It's like 1740 01:29:09,520 --> 01:29:11,240 Speaker 1: the shame of my life. Yeah, so living in the 1741 01:29:11,880 --> 01:29:13,640 Speaker 1: damn party tonight that I don't really want to go 1742 01:29:13,680 --> 01:29:14,920 Speaker 1: to you, but I guess I'm like, I got nothing 1743 01:29:14,920 --> 01:29:17,280 Speaker 1: else to do. And the only reason I'm gonna feel 1744 01:29:17,280 --> 01:29:19,479 Speaker 1: okay with not going is because I know I'd be 1745 01:29:19,520 --> 01:29:22,479 Speaker 1: miserable tomorrow if I did. But it's like usually like 1746 01:29:22,520 --> 01:29:24,639 Speaker 1: if I know that a bunch of people are gathered 1747 01:29:24,680 --> 01:29:27,280 Speaker 1: somewhere and I'm not there, it does like chat my ass. 1748 01:29:27,360 --> 01:29:30,240 Speaker 1: I don't know, Yeah, same, I know I won't have 1749 01:29:30,360 --> 01:29:35,879 Speaker 1: that much fun, but I go. I mean minus specifically 1750 01:29:35,920 --> 01:29:39,639 Speaker 1: about like sexualized gay events, which is crazy because there 1751 01:29:39,720 --> 01:29:42,680 Speaker 1: was no more renewable resource on Earth than gay. You 1752 01:29:42,680 --> 01:29:46,360 Speaker 1: couldn't you can't possibly be missing over there. Yes there's 1753 01:29:46,400 --> 01:29:48,479 Speaker 1: some over there, but there's something about like where were 1754 01:29:48,520 --> 01:29:51,240 Speaker 1: we at last weekend? What was that thing called Pegasus? 1755 01:29:51,640 --> 01:29:54,320 Speaker 1: It's like when if you didn't go, you'd feel crazy, 1756 01:29:54,439 --> 01:29:56,920 Speaker 1: and then you go and you're like feel insane, like 1757 01:29:56,960 --> 01:30:01,680 Speaker 1: I shouldn't be here, bags of meat flopping out, and 1758 01:30:01,720 --> 01:30:03,800 Speaker 1: I'm just like, this is the craziest ever I wrote 1759 01:30:03,840 --> 01:30:06,880 Speaker 1: that song characterized it that way. Well, I'm so sorry 1760 01:30:06,880 --> 01:30:09,080 Speaker 1: about that. You didn't get the nomination. Diane Warren again 1761 01:30:09,160 --> 01:30:15,240 Speaker 1: sneak and Beyonce sorry had a campaign zero and got 1762 01:30:15,240 --> 01:30:18,680 Speaker 1: the nom and Gaga had a campaign a million. But 1763 01:30:18,760 --> 01:30:23,160 Speaker 1: she is an Oscar winner, She's a multiple, She's had 1764 01:30:23,240 --> 01:30:27,400 Speaker 1: three nominations to still it happens to you. Oh, you're right, 1765 01:30:27,439 --> 01:30:29,320 Speaker 1: I can't believe I just missed that. And I'm saying, 1766 01:30:29,320 --> 01:30:31,880 Speaker 1: like this House of Gucci would have been her fourth 1767 01:30:32,000 --> 01:30:35,400 Speaker 1: Oscar nomination, right right, and you and you the the 1768 01:30:35,400 --> 01:30:38,080 Speaker 1: the I feel like idea that's out there is that 1769 01:30:38,160 --> 01:30:40,640 Speaker 1: Lady Guga is brand new to movies, you know what 1770 01:30:40,680 --> 01:30:42,760 Speaker 1: I mean. It's like it still feels that way, like 1771 01:30:42,800 --> 01:30:45,960 Speaker 1: she's like it's an impostor here, it's a it's a 1772 01:30:46,200 --> 01:30:48,280 Speaker 1: it's a share narrative, and like it kind of kind 1773 01:30:48,280 --> 01:30:51,479 Speaker 1: of fits neatly into that. But I think, like, period, 1774 01:30:51,560 --> 01:30:55,599 Speaker 1: point blank, she's one of the most bankable. Yes now 1775 01:30:55,640 --> 01:30:59,000 Speaker 1: that she's had two hits, because Stars was a massive 1776 01:30:59,080 --> 01:31:01,240 Speaker 1: hit and House of Gucci in the COVID era, I 1777 01:31:01,280 --> 01:31:03,879 Speaker 1: think it's the highest grossing what they're calling adult drama 1778 01:31:03,920 --> 01:31:06,559 Speaker 1: of the year. Like she is the only name you 1779 01:31:06,560 --> 01:31:09,280 Speaker 1: can put over She's one of the only names you 1780 01:31:09,280 --> 01:31:11,360 Speaker 1: can put over a movie and like expect people to 1781 01:31:11,360 --> 01:31:15,679 Speaker 1: show up like that ain't happening with Jennifer Lawrence necessarily. Sure, 1782 01:31:16,720 --> 01:31:20,040 Speaker 1: so apparently everybody on Earth batch don't look up. I 1783 01:31:20,120 --> 01:31:22,679 Speaker 1: like to say I underestimated the math that made that happen, 1784 01:31:22,720 --> 01:31:24,600 Speaker 1: which is everybody. It's a movie you would want to 1785 01:31:24,600 --> 01:31:28,880 Speaker 1: watch with your parents over Christmas, actually, which is sup offensive. Yeah, 1786 01:31:28,920 --> 01:31:32,760 Speaker 1: oh my god, And I will say, have we talked 1787 01:31:32,800 --> 01:31:34,360 Speaker 1: about this already? We don't have to get into get 1788 01:31:34,400 --> 01:31:37,360 Speaker 1: into it. The conversation around and look up was like 1789 01:31:37,479 --> 01:31:38,840 Speaker 1: led me to believe that it is one of it 1790 01:31:38,920 --> 01:31:40,840 Speaker 1: was going to be one of the worst movies I've 1791 01:31:40,880 --> 01:31:44,000 Speaker 1: ever seen in my life. Fine it, Yes, fine, I 1792 01:31:44,000 --> 01:31:46,200 Speaker 1: would say a punch up on the jokes and then 1793 01:31:47,439 --> 01:31:49,200 Speaker 1: minutes and do you know what. I would actually get 1794 01:31:49,240 --> 01:31:51,559 Speaker 1: rid of the Leonardo DiCaprio character because it was all 1795 01:31:51,560 --> 01:31:54,120 Speaker 1: about his impotent rage, which was expected, like that's the 1796 01:31:54,160 --> 01:31:55,960 Speaker 1: thing we don't want from it at a McKay movie. 1797 01:31:56,120 --> 01:31:58,320 Speaker 1: Whereas if it was just about the Jennifer Lawrence character, 1798 01:31:58,439 --> 01:32:00,960 Speaker 1: I think it would have been a little less hitting 1799 01:32:00,960 --> 01:32:04,000 Speaker 1: you over the head. Yeah, Like had it been character 1800 01:32:04,439 --> 01:32:06,760 Speaker 1: more sorry when he came in at two hours and 1801 01:32:06,840 --> 01:32:08,439 Speaker 1: forty five minutes into the movie. I was like, we 1802 01:32:08,520 --> 01:32:11,160 Speaker 1: can't do this because you know, he's going to require 1803 01:32:11,200 --> 01:32:16,080 Speaker 1: a screen time, Like I can't, I'm done. But like, 1804 01:32:16,160 --> 01:32:18,479 Speaker 1: had it been about her as a student maybe trying 1805 01:32:18,520 --> 01:32:21,160 Speaker 1: to convince her department and convinced, like had it been 1806 01:32:21,200 --> 01:32:26,800 Speaker 1: about her singular mission to convince the larger populist that 1807 01:32:26,880 --> 01:32:29,840 Speaker 1: this was something to um, you know, maybe it would 1808 01:32:29,840 --> 01:32:32,040 Speaker 1: have felt more based in character and less based in 1809 01:32:32,200 --> 01:32:36,320 Speaker 1: like isn't everyone in the world stupid? Because Bones at 1810 01:32:36,360 --> 01:32:38,080 Speaker 1: a very really good point, which is that was so 1811 01:32:38,120 --> 01:32:41,440 Speaker 1: cynical about the cynicism, that just contributed to the cynicism. 1812 01:32:41,560 --> 01:32:43,040 Speaker 1: It was like that the satire thing of like if 1813 01:32:43,040 --> 01:32:45,439 Speaker 1: it doesn't have a clear object or target, than like 1814 01:32:45,520 --> 01:32:47,800 Speaker 1: it just contributes to the thing that it's trying to. Like, 1815 01:32:48,240 --> 01:32:51,240 Speaker 1: what it was missing was an actual mission of a 1816 01:32:51,240 --> 01:32:54,120 Speaker 1: protagonist and any heart in it, you know what I mean, 1817 01:32:54,200 --> 01:32:57,360 Speaker 1: Like that futile and Leo's character was only there as 1818 01:32:57,400 --> 01:33:02,280 Speaker 1: a way to like have these characters access like news 1819 01:33:02,320 --> 01:33:04,320 Speaker 1: media and the president and all this stuff like that 1820 01:33:04,360 --> 01:33:05,920 Speaker 1: was the I guess, I guess that's the only reason 1821 01:33:05,960 --> 01:33:10,120 Speaker 1: why Leo's character existed in that movie. Yeah, well, sorry, 1822 01:33:10,160 --> 01:33:12,679 Speaker 1: I didn't mean to bring up like a mean Listen. 1823 01:33:12,720 --> 01:33:15,240 Speaker 1: I actually love that we barely touched on it, because 1824 01:33:15,280 --> 01:33:17,120 Speaker 1: maybe that means it won't win. Some people are saying 1825 01:33:17,120 --> 01:33:20,360 Speaker 1: it is best Picture. Absolutely not well, I mean we've 1826 01:33:20,360 --> 01:33:23,360 Speaker 1: seen low rated movies like by critics. Honestly, no when 1827 01:33:23,400 --> 01:33:26,200 Speaker 1: parisite wins Best Picture, I don't think you can have 1828 01:33:26,240 --> 01:33:28,320 Speaker 1: a year where don't look up when's best Picture. Personally, 1829 01:33:28,360 --> 01:33:31,639 Speaker 1: that being said, green Book did win, I'm which is weird. 1830 01:33:31,760 --> 01:33:36,200 Speaker 1: You know what, though people did not like Roma, whereas 1831 01:33:36,200 --> 01:33:38,320 Speaker 1: I'm not really hearing the blowback about Drive my Car 1832 01:33:38,439 --> 01:33:40,280 Speaker 1: or Power of the Dog. I think Driving my Car 1833 01:33:40,280 --> 01:33:43,840 Speaker 1: could be one to watch. I see it. Anyways, Wow, 1834 01:33:43,880 --> 01:33:49,040 Speaker 1: what full fucking five episode of Lost Culture? Amazing did 1835 01:33:49,040 --> 01:33:52,559 Speaker 1: not disappoint. He's pointing at me, thank you so much 1836 01:33:52,600 --> 01:33:56,599 Speaker 1: for coming. I couldn't have had a better time. So 1837 01:33:56,640 --> 01:33:59,679 Speaker 1: excited to be here. Oh my god? O end every 1838 01:34:00,000 --> 01:34:05,000 Speaker 1: so with the song Dude do Do Do Do do 1839 01:34:05,640 --> 01:34:12,240 Speaker 1: the biggest pop dude do do? What good if this 1840 01:34:12,320 --> 01:34:16,000 Speaker 1: was like a gay song like do do Dude Do do? 1841 01:34:16,320 --> 01:34:18,240 Speaker 1: Tea cloud dancer makes coming up? Oh my god, we 1842 01:34:18,240 --> 01:34:20,479 Speaker 1: didn't even talk about Shery shepherds filling for Wendy bolliums 1843 01:34:20,520 --> 01:34:23,400 Speaker 1: by Yeah, Wendy Williams is out Charry Shepherd isn't anyway 1844 01:34:23,479 --> 01:34:26,880 Speaker 1: think about that by