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Speaker 3: the good shot.
Speaker 4: Saddy.
Speaker 3: Oh, the conference room is dark right now, but it's
Speaker 3: gonna be lit later on tonight when all these dry
Speaker 3: start happening in the first round. It is the Thursday
Speaker 3: Draft edition of Hanging with the Boys.
Speaker 4: The Boys.
Speaker 3: It's Kurk Daniels who wrote a editing A fantastic draft guy.
Speaker 3: I hope that you got it. He is the three
Speaker 3: times to Bowl champion like me. He didn't get drafted
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Speaker 3: We got Chris in the back hole is down, getting
Speaker 3: us all right and ready to go. Draft day is here.
Speaker 5: Yes, sir, let me ask you a quick quick Did
Speaker 5: you get an email or text leg late last night
Speaker 5: saying you needed.
Speaker 4: To pick a first round pick?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, cool, That's all I want to know, because
Speaker 5: I didn't want to be stuck out bamasay.
Speaker 4: Like ope, he just said it to me.
Speaker 3: You know, we all got it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because they should have more in depth than in it.
Speaker 3: My question to you is did you actually answer that?
Speaker 4: Oh yes, sir, real quick, real quick, yet so interested?
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, almost changed mine.
Speaker 5: But I looked and saw that my guy, my second
Speaker 5: pick is a is a early to mid round second
Speaker 5: round pick. Even my first guy pick is a late
Speaker 5: first round pick.
Speaker 3: But anyway, if you're living under a rock, rock you
Speaker 3: just came out today. Today is the NFL Draft. They're
Speaker 3: taking place in Kansas City, Kansas.
Speaker 5: Boy, you can tell when things change. And Kansas City
Speaker 5: couldn't get a draft six years ago. Off of all
Speaker 5: the free bobecue in the world, they could have got
Speaker 5: a draft.
Speaker 3: And tonight is the first round of the draft. The
Speaker 3: Cowboys are the number twenty six pick tentatively today. Yeah,
Speaker 3: things can change.
Speaker 4: And I please don't change.
Speaker 3: I have this gut feeling and this gut feeling that
Speaker 3: I have. No, no, no, this is gonna be one
Speaker 3: of the wildest drafts. Okay, no no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 3: you ha, this is gonna be wow wild drafts. And
Speaker 3: if you're kiddie keeping count or watching the time, I
Speaker 3: got this from what's what's Dan's don damn? Don this
Speaker 3: last name? I forget the name.
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, Don Wrinkle.
Speaker 3: Sure, don Wrinkle. Uh he broke down the times.
Speaker 4: Okay.
Speaker 3: So if you're if you're a busy dude or a
Speaker 3: busy gal, you're looking at when the Cowboys will pick.
Speaker 3: The Cowboys have seven draft picks this year, between the
Speaker 3: first and seventh round, pick twenty six tentatively the Cowboys
Speaker 3: on real time at nine to fifty eight tonight PM,
Speaker 3: ninety eight PM Round two, which would be on.
Speaker 4: Friday Friday tomorrow, Yes, sir.
Speaker 3: Friday eighth, three p M.
Speaker 6: And he don't work in trades and all he just okay,
Speaker 6: first of all, Jesse, I got that same list.
Speaker 7: So don't let this guy fo you. The NFL sends
Speaker 7: it out.
Speaker 6: Oh, the same was the NFL sends that says, what
Speaker 6: if there's gonna be a fast draft, slow draft or
Speaker 6: normal draft?
Speaker 4: What time you're what does she say? You are?
Speaker 7: Let okay, now hanging with the boys. Start now starting
Speaker 7: the first round pick.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it will be a slow draft. It'll be a
Speaker 3: Stow drafts gonna take his time with this pick.
Speaker 6: He's almost like a Zaddy draft draft, you.
Speaker 4: Know, yeah, Zay draft.
Speaker 6: We have the Cowboys picking at ten ten, Yes, the
Speaker 6: Nate Newton draft, which is a fast draft, yes, sir,
Speaker 6: real quick, nine forty three, getting right through.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that car gonna come up quick. Yeah, that car
Speaker 3: gonna come quick to the to the legos.
Speaker 4: She said, what happened? I'm done?
Speaker 3: But no, the Cowboys first round pick nine to fifty eight,
Speaker 3: the second round pick eight O eight PM, the third
Speaker 3: round pick at nine forty eight PM, and fourth round
Speaker 3: pick at twelve fourteen PM on Saturday, the fifth round
Speaker 3: pick at two O seven, the sixth round pick at
Speaker 3: four PM, and the seventh pick, pick two forty four,
Speaker 3: will be at four will be at four fifty three.
Speaker 3: So if you just keeping a watch on that, that
Speaker 3: was the time we need to be around the TV
Speaker 3: for the Cowboys for the Cowboys draft. And to next point,
Speaker 3: we were all kind of picking our one of our
Speaker 3: one of our leaders, our bosses, Nick Eatman, was asking
Speaker 3: us what we uh, what we think about And I
Speaker 3: haven't changed either. I haven't changed.
Speaker 4: I'm with you.
Speaker 3: Have you flopped.
Speaker 8: Any I've unsettled?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 5: I almost flopped this morning and I did some research.
Speaker 5: Is that now I've been not flopped?
Speaker 4: Almost? Oh? Yes, I sent you.
Speaker 3: I sent you a to our group text yesterday about
Speaker 3: Brian Baldon, Yes, sir, and he talked about of course
Speaker 3: he has the MPP right, the Michael Parsons problem. You
Speaker 3: highlighted just how good Michael Parsons is. How you doing
Speaker 3: that with zero interior pressure from guys than you and
Speaker 3: so you But so let's make it clear. Are you
Speaker 3: saying get an interior guy or you saying get an
Speaker 3: offensive lineman?
Speaker 5: Because you've been no, no, no, no, I changed. You asked
Speaker 5: about our first pick. I changed away from we don't
Speaker 5: need first round pick offensive lineman. I've always kind of
Speaker 5: stood by that. It's nice and it sounds good, but
Speaker 5: if I think we'll know what the lineman looked like,
Speaker 5: and and I ain't talking about it in the four.
Speaker 5: But it's some guys gonna be in the second and
Speaker 5: third round that you can get and that can start,
Speaker 5: that can play if you're willing to get these guys
Speaker 5: in training camp and go. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: So my first round pick is not is not a lineman,
Speaker 5: No it's not. My second round pick is a lineman?
Speaker 5: Are running back? But hey our linebacker? But go ahead
Speaker 5: on now, I haven't changed.
Speaker 4: I haven't changed.
Speaker 3: I'm still flexing sexy all the way.
Speaker 4: And I don't know if mine.
Speaker 5: I don't know if sexy is your, but mine is
Speaker 5: big and can do some damage. Yeah yeah, mmmm, it's
Speaker 5: left that marinate for a seconds.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Chris, have we figured out where? Because I feel
Speaker 3: like Jerry kind of switches his location every single year
Speaker 3: he was on the boat. One year, is is he
Speaker 3: going to be back in the building? Is he going
Speaker 3: to be here at headquarters? He's gonna be somewhere back
Speaker 3: here at headquarters? Since okay, so everything will be happening
Speaker 3: tonight right here in the in the war room. This
Speaker 3: segment is brought to you by Wingstop. Where Flavor gets
Speaker 3: his wings. They'll probably have some wings in there. Tonight.
Speaker 3: Do they have a That's a great question we should
Speaker 3: have asked at some point in time, what is the
Speaker 3: war Rule menu.
Speaker 8: I think they got a whole spread of stuff, don't.
Speaker 4: They Come on? Man, this dude one of the best
Speaker 4: caterers in the world.
Speaker 3: But sometimes in those moments, there's something that specifically that
Speaker 3: they probably want.
Speaker 8: Like for a while Chris you might know, went in
Speaker 8: like catfish or something like that.
Speaker 6: Part of Jerry always it's always catfish, and like barbue,
Speaker 6: he go back.
Speaker 4: To the crib, he go back to the boxing, you
Speaker 4: get basic, you go back.
Speaker 6: You have some catfish here then and then I think
Speaker 6: Saturday morning is those breakfast tacos from Nate's place?
Speaker 3: Yeah, from compeled elements.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Man, I'm gonna tell you, I'm excited. Man, I'm excited
Speaker 5: about the second and third round.
Speaker 8: You're saying second and third?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 8: Are you guys gonna reveal your first Are we saving
Speaker 8: that for no?
Speaker 9: No?
Speaker 4: If you're no, no, now, me and him the same.
Speaker 4: We tight ends your tight end?
Speaker 8: What I sent into tight ends?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I said, I said in Dulton kincaid that.
Speaker 4: Oh that that kid that's from where from Utah? Yo? Oh,
Speaker 4: he's a nice kid.
Speaker 7: I don't like about Kincaidian.
Speaker 6: Only thing he didn't he wasn't able to do any
Speaker 6: of his workouts because he has a back problem.
Speaker 5: Oh oh no, no, we got the biggest red flag.
Speaker 5: Oh it's flying. Oh in jail, mister Jones, get your helicopter.
Speaker 5: Put a red flag on this kid right now.
Speaker 4: We do not. Jesse's picked you another flexy sexy.
Speaker 5: Please think that's how got Oh no, no, no.
Speaker 8: No, did you take Meyer?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 5: I took that took the kid from Georgia, big, big
Speaker 5: Darnelle l.
Speaker 4: I took Darnelle Washington.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's what I took, six eight, two hundred and
Speaker 5: seventy pounds. If he can't catch your past, which he can,
Speaker 5: he can block, he can block. So if you have
Speaker 5: Josh ball at it, just wing tackle, we can get
Speaker 5: some help.
Speaker 4: Yes, sir, we can get some help. Baby.
Speaker 3: This is this is an exciting time like draft is always.
Speaker 8: Do you guys get pumped up for it like you? Yeah?
Speaker 8: I mean I don't. My impression is you guys aren't
Speaker 8: like draft nerds, where you're studying everybody.
Speaker 5: Up until four years ago, I used to oh man, really,
Speaker 5: oh the first one hundred kids. Oh my god, I
Speaker 5: had something on them really and then yeah, I backed
Speaker 5: out because I backed out because they never drafted under
Speaker 5: the guys. And then I and then I do research
Speaker 5: a year later, and all these guys that I chose
Speaker 5: is round the league kicking butt except one I did like,
Speaker 5: uh the kid from Oklahoma, Uh uh Galimore.
Speaker 4: I loved him.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I went out, well, I went talking noise for him,
Speaker 5: and so far not not as good as we know.
Speaker 3: I don't get like all draft nerdy in that I
Speaker 3: used to be. I think we do. We have We
Speaker 3: have a this the one thing about this area, and
Speaker 3: more so now that the Internet has kind of opened
Speaker 3: up to the world. You know, we we have a
Speaker 3: pretty good When Dave Hellman was here, of course, Kyle, Yes,
Speaker 3: Brian Broadest, Jeff we.
Speaker 4: Had them, bro, I mean.
Speaker 3: That we were there is a we still have. They're
Speaker 3: not going what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: Lest see when Broadest is not in the building it
Speaker 5: as often as he used to be.
Speaker 4: We used to just click on the Broadest real quick,
Speaker 4: you know.
Speaker 3: Now. Yeah, So I was like, do I waste my time?
Speaker 3: I shouldn't say waste my time? Do I do I
Speaker 3: designate my time to go and watching all these players,
Speaker 3: or do I just wait to the Star book, right,
Speaker 3: you know, do I wait to something like that because
Speaker 3: I just kind of did my do my cliff notes
Speaker 3: version of reading everything. I'm a college football fan, so
Speaker 3: a lot of these guys, especially in the first round,
Speaker 3: we've seen a lot of these guys. Maybe not so
Speaker 3: much like every offensive lineman, but for the most part,
Speaker 3: most of the guys in the first round come from
Speaker 3: proms that we watch regularly, right, and so coming into
Speaker 3: the year, like you know, Bryce Young, we've seen Bryce Young,
Speaker 3: We've seen Will Ellison, we' seen CD Strode, We've seen
Speaker 3: Will Levers, We've seen Jellen Carter, We've seen I mean,
Speaker 3: you look at it, Tyree Wilson, Christiana. I mean, we've
Speaker 3: seen a lot of these players because they're playing on
Speaker 3: the national stage weekend and week out, whether they're playing
Speaker 3: against our opponent, whether they're playing the prime time game.
Speaker 3: So you know, these these the first round isn't a
Speaker 3: hard round to look at because a lot of film
Speaker 3: on these guys. It's when you get into those Day two,
Speaker 3: end of Day two, Day three guys, third, four, fifth,
Speaker 3: sixth round when you start talking about the smaller schools.
Speaker 3: We're talking about the players that you know that you
Speaker 3: may not have as much information on. So I trust
Speaker 3: guys like.
Speaker 8: Dame Buten's amazing.
Speaker 3: His book The Beast, like it's just is the It
Speaker 3: is the Beast, you know. So I trust those guys
Speaker 3: in their assessment of players. And then I get into
Speaker 3: the I get into my bag is when we draft them, right,
Speaker 3: once we get the guys here, these are the guys
Speaker 3: that we got. Now I get my back. Now, okay,
Speaker 3: let me find out more about the guys that we
Speaker 3: got here. I'm not doing three hundred dudes. I'm just
Speaker 3: not give me the you know the eight nine Debbie, No, no, no,
Speaker 3: you know what? Yeah? So so yeah.
Speaker 8: Yeah, that's why I am. Once they're on the team.
Speaker 4: You're like, what who you are?
Speaker 6: This show was a Ford Tires, right, Chris?
Speaker 8: This is the show they wanted on draft day? Right,
Speaker 8: this is this is what.
Speaker 3: The people want.
Speaker 7: They realized probably listening this show. That's why they said this.
Speaker 5: Yeah okay, but I tell you right here, this is
Speaker 5: gonna be exciting day.
Speaker 4: And uh but now what do you do leading up
Speaker 4: to the draft?
Speaker 5: How do you you just your normal day until until
Speaker 5: it start?
Speaker 4: Like I'll just kick out.
Speaker 5: And then when the draft, when they say its own,
Speaker 5: then for some reason, I can't get away from my phone.
Speaker 5: I can't get away from the TV. It's just like
Speaker 5: I keep coming back to it.
Speaker 4: Are you like that?
Speaker 5: Are you just like, oh man, I'll wait around at
Speaker 5: seven thirty eight o'clock.
Speaker 4: How do you do that?
Speaker 10: Now?
Speaker 3: I'm locked in all day. I'm refreshing my phone, I'm
Speaker 3: watching all the shows I'm you know, cause you the
Speaker 3: thing about the NFL drive, which is I think the
Speaker 3: NFL draft is no other sport advertises their draft like
Speaker 3: the NFL draft. That sure, right, Like you bailly know
Speaker 3: what baseball drafts are like so many rounds on that
Speaker 3: basketball you kind of after the first ten picks, you're
Speaker 3: kind of like really out on the NBA. But the
Speaker 3: NFL is so much happening and there's so many ever
Speaker 3: changing things. You know, we go back to a couple
Speaker 3: of years ago when you had the big offensive lineman
Speaker 3: who was supposed to be a first round pick, and
Speaker 3: then like literally on draft day, we'll pick up the
Speaker 3: picture of him and the gas smashing the bomb. You
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. It's like there's so many things
Speaker 3: that happened. Like you're like, wait, what what you know?
Speaker 3: And the stories begin to circulating, sources, anonymous sources, this person,
Speaker 3: that person. So it's always.
Speaker 4: That you all.
Speaker 5: You know, you got a kid that's a possible first
Speaker 5: round pick, find out he has a car deal, and
Speaker 5: now now he's in.
Speaker 4: You know, if I'm him, I'll be weard of even going.
Speaker 5: To the draft, you know, because people can say they're
Speaker 5: gonna still be a top ten pick, and all of
Speaker 5: a sudden.
Speaker 4: You start and you be that one guy in the
Speaker 4: green room. But I couldn't not oh man.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And so we'll talk about that. We'll talk about
Speaker 3: kind of draft day experiences. But even though you and
Speaker 3: not neither one was drafted, we'll talk about a little
Speaker 3: bit of our draft day experiences. Uh, you know, how
Speaker 3: we how we dealt with things that day, and just
Speaker 3: just dig more into this Cowboys drafting man. We don't
Speaker 3: we don't really have any direction. We have some questions,
Speaker 3: we have some things that we want to get answered today.
Speaker 3: And will the Cowboys, like, will the Cowboys finally get
Speaker 3: their second round pick? Right right here with us? We'll
Speaker 3: come right back, We'll there local stay right here with
Speaker 3: this and hang with the boys. We'll be right back.
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Speaker 3: Will McClay, Stephen Jones, Mike McCarthy, who's now calling the plays?
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Speaker 3: Did he win?
Speaker 8: I think so?
Speaker 3: Did he win?
Speaker 8: Don't remember?
Speaker 7: But you know I can't remember who won last year.
Speaker 3: Gotta gotta gotta love it, all right. So the Cowboys,
Speaker 3: the Cowboys have been pretty good when it comes to
Speaker 3: first round pick. But I think we can all say
Speaker 3: a consensus that when it comes to that second round pick,
Speaker 3: they just they like to gamble.
Speaker 8: They go and why why is that.
Speaker 3: The curl don't quite curl all the way over on
Speaker 3: that on that second round pick?
Speaker 5: Just to give you I'm underdo our upper management say
Speaker 5: this is where we gamble?
Speaker 8: They must, yeah, this is where.
Speaker 4: We going because we hit big. It's a gusher, We
Speaker 4: hit that glory hole and everything.
Speaker 5: Just you know, that's mister Jones words, you know, but
Speaker 5: if but nobody never says, but.
Speaker 4: Boss, what if we don't hit big?
Speaker 3: Yeah, then we got like that?
Speaker 5: Though they like them taking no, no, Darnell all right,
Speaker 5: offenserve lineman.
Speaker 4: He'll be there well the Cowboys.
Speaker 3: Speaking of home run Derby, the Cowboys have swung and
Speaker 3: at times they have hit things out of the park
Speaker 3: with that second round pick. Who and at times who
Speaker 3: they have been?
Speaker 8: Sham Williams last year had some off the field issues.
Speaker 8: He's had a pretty good He had a pretty good year.
Speaker 8: Who is that Sam Williams a defensive end last.
Speaker 4: Year fifteen games to get on the field.
Speaker 3: Trayvon Diggs was a second round pick for the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 3: That's a home run? That wasn't That was Andre Garard
Speaker 3: was the second round pick for the Cowboys.
Speaker 4: That was a home run.
Speaker 5: That was a home run, But that was before we
Speaker 5: started picking. Marcus long shots, Marcus Lawrence, that was before
Speaker 5: we started picking.
Speaker 4: But that name something that wasn't home run.
Speaker 3: I'm getting ready to name some Let me just go
Speaker 3: back to two thousand and two kind of give you
Speaker 3: like almost a twenty year kind of fucking look at.
Speaker 3: These are some of the names that the Cowboys have
Speaker 3: drafted in the second round. An Tony O'Bryant, Andre Garrard,
Speaker 3: A J. Johnson who is AJ Johns? No clue? Two
Speaker 3: thousand and four, Jacob Rogers and Julius Jones. Julie Jones
Speaker 3: was a good second round pick two thousand and five,
Speaker 3: Kevin Burnett two thousand and six, Anthony Faugh Anthony Fasano,
Speaker 3: Anthony's father cool. I don't know what you how do
Speaker 3: you feel? He's a cool dude, though.
Speaker 4: We gotta go with cool? Great football? Yeah, okay, who
Speaker 4: do not great football?
Speaker 3: Twenty two thousand and eight, Martella's been in twenty ten, Shawn.
Speaker 4: Then last long didn't get along with the starting tight.
Speaker 3: Ends twenty eleven. Bruce Carter gotar Hills thirteen, Gavin Escobar fourteen,
Speaker 3: DeMarcus Lawrence gave.
Speaker 7: No longer with two thousand and three was Al Johnson
Speaker 7: A J.
Speaker 3: Johnson.
Speaker 7: It's out he was a center at A Wisconsin.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's still in Wisconsin.
Speaker 3: I'm like, Nate, if you ain't do nothing, I can't
Speaker 3: get your name right to. Fourteen was DeMarcus Lawrence, fifteen
Speaker 3: was Raandy Gregory sixteen Rady Gregory, Jaylen Smith was sixteen,
Speaker 3: seventeen was Cheato.
Speaker 4: Jalen who eighteen was Jayen.
Speaker 3: Who, nineteen was Tristan Hill, twenty was Treyman, Trey Won
Speaker 3: Diggs twenty one with Tristan who, Kevin Joseph and Tristan who.
Speaker 4: We've had how many picks?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Do you how many years did.
Speaker 5: You call out like twenty and over half when you
Speaker 5: batting over half that did not really play for us
Speaker 5: or really contribute in a way that is impactful.
Speaker 4: No, man, we got to stop that.
Speaker 8: The last decade. You've got maybe two Come on, man,
Speaker 8: Lawrence and.
Speaker 4: We we we.
Speaker 5: I got the guys. Darnell Wright, Tennessee offensive lineman six
Speaker 5: five three three thirty three. I got wild Will McDonald,
Speaker 5: I always state linebacker, small guy, but he made plays
Speaker 5: all over the field, six three to thirty nine. Put
Speaker 5: another five pounds on him. Run like a deer. Get
Speaker 5: after that ball. Help the Marcus, Yeah, assuming they help,
Speaker 5: not the markets, but help assuming.
Speaker 8: They take up a playmaker in the first round.
Speaker 4: Whatever.
Speaker 8: So, assuming they make it, take a playmaker, do they
Speaker 8: have to go offensive line in one of the next.
Speaker 4: Two No, no, yes, no, no, no no no.
Speaker 5: You don't have to go offensive line. You only have
Speaker 5: to go offensive line once you make that second pick.
Speaker 5: Then you package up them garbage five and six and
Speaker 5: seven and try to get into the fourth, and you
Speaker 5: package up that garbage fourth and try to get into
Speaker 5: the third and get you to through the third round picks.
Speaker 3: You need a starting offensive lineman on this draft like
Speaker 3: a legit not not a project. You have to find
Speaker 3: a starting interior offensive lineman. So like center guard type situation.
Speaker 5: Down, they are right to find Cody Minch, North, Dakota State.
Speaker 5: Those two guys right there waiting on you. Is that
Speaker 5: the guy with no teeth, That guy with no teeth,
Speaker 5: short arms, can't play tackle. So that makes I spend
Speaker 5: the cost of my name. You don't like, but that
Speaker 5: that you know he don't play tackle, he play guard.
Speaker 4: He'll he'll bite in on you. You can know. You'll
Speaker 4: know his friends, but what he leaving, but he'll leave
Speaker 4: on you. That's right. I already got the guys.
Speaker 5: Yeah, consistent stable Darnelle right Tennessee. And this guy right here,
Speaker 5: Cody Mitch. Those are you guys. Get them, they'll be
Speaker 5: there for you. Get them.
Speaker 3: What is it though about the second round for the
Speaker 3: cowboy that they just swing and miss so badly.
Speaker 8: I guess they feel like they can, like they feel
Speaker 8: like maybe there's a first round talent there and they
Speaker 8: just feel like they can. Whether it's the injury or
Speaker 8: the off the field stuff. They feel like they can
Speaker 8: manage that into getting a second round player with first
Speaker 8: round talent. I guess I don't know why.
Speaker 5: It ain't, but fifteen maybe every year there's anywhere from
Speaker 5: twelve to maybe fifteen true legit first round picks. So
Speaker 5: for the last out of twenty years, we've been eighteen
Speaker 5: years we've been trying to think we got a first
Speaker 5: round pick that ain't worked. Don't do that, get a
Speaker 5: second round piack, that is the second round pick that
Speaker 5: will work.
Speaker 6: Can I make a I mean, I don't think they
Speaker 6: have failed on second round picks in the last ten years.
Speaker 7: I really don't think.
Speaker 6: So let's here, Okay, this is why, because I'm looking
Speaker 6: at all these second round picks. Okay, So I'll give you,
Speaker 6: say Kelvin Joseph, I'll give you that it's his his
Speaker 6: story is still not written, correct, Would you say that.
Speaker 5: It's it's written, but the rap is written. I don't
Speaker 5: know if the story is written.
Speaker 3: Album it was written? Okay, Joseph Wish can get anywhere
Speaker 3: to do that.
Speaker 6: Okay, he's still in the league, correct, All right, So
Speaker 6: of all these guys in the last ten years, only
Speaker 6: one guy is not.
Speaker 4: In the league, right, but not on our team.
Speaker 3: On our team, But I understand.
Speaker 6: But like Cheetah went and got a big deal. Connor
Speaker 6: Williams got a huge deal in Miami. Jaylen Smith, yes
Speaker 6: he got cut, but he's now. So you saying coaches,
Speaker 6: you know, I'm just saying that they're not They're not
Speaker 6: all bust.
Speaker 7: They're still in the league.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 6: I know they may have not worked out here, but
Speaker 6: we we couldn't afford.
Speaker 7: Him at times. Does that make sense?
Speaker 6: I mean, I don't think you can say, well, that
Speaker 6: second round pick was a bust.
Speaker 7: I mean, Cheeto's making some good money. He went to
Speaker 7: Super Bowl, had an interception. I don't think Cheetah was
Speaker 7: a bust.
Speaker 3: No, I think he's We're not saying, we're saying a
Speaker 3: bus but it just has been bad, like because you
Speaker 3: expect a first and the second round pick to be
Speaker 3: with that team at least to a second contract.
Speaker 6: But well, they wanted Randy for a second contract, right,
Speaker 6: I mean he left they want That's not a bust.
Speaker 8: Did they have they had the kind of impact that
Speaker 8: they expected though? Did they make a good enough impact here.
Speaker 4: So they could get that second country?
Speaker 6: I mean I think they wanted Cheeto to say, but
Speaker 6: he left. Like like, you look at a guy like
Speaker 6: Connor Williams. He was He started seventeen games with the
Speaker 6: Miami Dolphins last year at center. Maybe that's us not
Speaker 6: putting him at center earlier. But I don't think he's
Speaker 6: a bust. Does that make sense?
Speaker 9: Now?
Speaker 4: You know we're not calling him bus.
Speaker 5: We'll call them guys that did not work out for
Speaker 5: one reason or another for the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 4: And I'm with Jesse.
Speaker 5: If you got the first second, possibly a middle or
Speaker 5: early third pick, these guys should be first divid up
Speaker 5: for new contracts. He can't say, I mean just cause
Speaker 5: we got a second round pick. Okay, well we ain't
Speaker 5: gonna pay you, Connor. We ain't gonna pay you what
Speaker 5: a cheetah bay or whatever. We're not gonna pray. You know,
Speaker 5: these are the guys you want to pay because I mean,
Speaker 5: everybody can't be paid big money. But you can't just
Speaker 5: keep going out every year trying to look for bargain
Speaker 5: after bargain after bargain, because you're never gonna get to
Speaker 5: the second round like that somebody. One of the years,
Speaker 5: we got to anti it up, you know, We've been
Speaker 5: talking for ten years about if we if you know
Speaker 5: about getting there, the window is closing.
Speaker 4: So but I got to happen.
Speaker 6: So sometimes as we get we get too caught up
Speaker 6: in Kelvin Joseph and Tristan Hill and people on the
Speaker 6: rest of the second round.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: But see the thing is you get caught up because
Speaker 5: they are on the team or they were on the team,
Speaker 5: and you slow about. You got rid of them quick
Speaker 5: if you got once you realize that, okay, this guy
Speaker 5: is not gonna be what we what we desire, then
Speaker 5: you get rid of him, and then you don't You
Speaker 5: don't have that better taste in your mouth, you know.
Speaker 6: But you kind of see my point. I mean, yeah,
Speaker 6: some of these guys are getting second.
Speaker 5: That's why I got DNA, all right, and I got
Speaker 5: Big Donald ready to go so we can replace them
Speaker 5: round picks.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 7: No, Sam Williams is gonna be a good player, I do.
Speaker 3: I think the biggest thing in Tonight's point is we're
Speaker 3: not calling them bust. We're just saying they didn't do
Speaker 3: what we needed them to do for us to be drafted.
Speaker 3: That high impact you're looking you're looking for more of
Speaker 3: an impactful player like you know, I played with Andre right,
Speaker 3: Andre Gara. Andre was a really good center, Yes he was.
Speaker 3: At one point in time, he was the highest paid
Speaker 3: center in the National Football League and had a good
Speaker 3: career here in Dallas. I played with Sean Lee. When
Speaker 3: Sean Lee was healthy, was one of the good, if
Speaker 3: not one of the best linebackers in the National Football League.
Speaker 3: But you look at that situation to go, this is
Speaker 3: the same injuries that he was dealing with in college
Speaker 3: he ended up dealing with in the league. And there
Speaker 3: I'm old enough to remember that when Shawn Lee went out,
Speaker 3: this team got real bad.
Speaker 4: I mean, ve got in on it.
Speaker 3: But then there's you know, there's other guys like you know,
Speaker 3: what was Martella's been? It was that coaching? Was that
Speaker 3: Martelli's right? Was that a player in front of him
Speaker 3: that you know, we don't really know what Martellis was.
Speaker 7: We don't think he was more about the player in
Speaker 7: front of them.
Speaker 6: Yeah, because Mark Tellis went on and had a pretty
Speaker 6: a hell of a career, a career.
Speaker 7: Super Bowl cost some people some jobs.
Speaker 3: Right right, I mean, so again that that that that
Speaker 3: goes back to saying was it was it a misevaluation
Speaker 3: because you drafted him in the second round, then you
Speaker 3: didn't use them. You see what I'm saying. It's like,
Speaker 3: why go that high for a pick and then say, well,
Speaker 3: the guy in front of him, Well, wait a second,
Speaker 3: the guy in front of him was going to be
Speaker 3: the guy in front of him the Monday before draft,
Speaker 3: the Tuesday before draft, Wednesday before draft, and on draft.
Speaker 4: Day and the whole examination of going to the school working.
Speaker 6: About But also I think that was a I think
Speaker 6: that was a league problem at the time because everybody
Speaker 6: was playing with two tight ends and we said, okay,
Speaker 6: we got win, we need to get another tight end
Speaker 6: to compliment him. Does that make sense, because like I
Speaker 6: think New England at the time was playing with you
Speaker 6: know what I'm saying, Like, I think that's what happens
Speaker 6: sometimes in the league where it's like, Okay, New England
Speaker 6: won a Super Bowl and they had two tight ends.
Speaker 3: The grunk Hernandez situation didn't come till after that.
Speaker 8: It was an Escobar. We picked a second round pick.
Speaker 4: They yeah, reach, you know what, that's when we even
Speaker 4: get caught up in that.
Speaker 11: Man.
Speaker 5: The thing is, for some reason or another, the second
Speaker 5: round picks on the majority does not work out for the.
Speaker 4: Cowboys for one reason or nothing.
Speaker 5: That's why I'm calling the front of telling them, Darnell
Speaker 5: all right for Tennessee, and Will McDonald or our state.
Speaker 4: Linebacker is ready to go. They are ready and prime
Speaker 4: be ready to go.
Speaker 3: All right, Let's let's take our final break because we'renna
Speaker 3: get out here a little early today. We all have
Speaker 3: some drafts up that we need to do, so let's
Speaker 3: take our final break.
Speaker 4: So have y'all been recruiting at the high school and
Speaker 4: snatching up kids?
Speaker 3: I was recruiting the other night. I'm out here. I'm
Speaker 3: out here.
Speaker 4: I'm like that championship. I'm coming. We come in.
Speaker 7: And it may not be Louis though.
Speaker 3: No, it's not Louis. It's it's more like jan Sport.
Speaker 3: It's like it's like I got a Jazz sport back.
Speaker 4: I'm not.
Speaker 3: It's not Louis. But I'm out here. I'm out here.
Speaker 3: So let's go to our final break. When we come back,
Speaker 3: we'll just wrap this thing up for the NFL Draft
Speaker 3: and get out of here, and let's see what the
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Speaker 3: Welcome back to Hanging with the Boys on this Thursday
Speaker 3: Draft Day edition. The Cowboys are picking at number twenty six.
Speaker 3: We've all decided we're all going tight end. Different tight
Speaker 3: end that we may want to go, but we're all
Speaker 3: going tight end. A playmaker for Dak Prescott, keeping this
Speaker 3: thing quarterback friendly. My boy, freaking Mike is on the
Speaker 3: clock and it's now whatever. It's now whatever, Mike, it's
Speaker 3: now or never. You are now in complete control.
Speaker 4: What years this is for me?
Speaker 3: Four?
Speaker 4: Three?
Speaker 8: Third?
Speaker 3: Third? Third is the third?
Speaker 11: Four?
Speaker 3: This is going there four.
Speaker 4: This took me three years to do, which I want
Speaker 4: you to do?
Speaker 3: You are this is it?
Speaker 8: Is that changing the strategy?
Speaker 3: Now?
Speaker 8: This is it draft strategy.
Speaker 3: If I'm Mike McCarthy, I'm trying to get every because
Speaker 3: last year, you gotta admit that they went heavy defensively
Speaker 3: and they gave they gave possibly their future head coach
Speaker 3: Dan Quinn all the picks that he want. I mean,
Speaker 3: he got all of them. They were they were. They
Speaker 3: got some receivers and some other guys here and there,
Speaker 3: but for the most part, it was a heavy defensive draft. Mike,
Speaker 3: you're on the clock, buddy, Like you are on like
Speaker 3: your football season and your draft is on the clock.
Speaker 3: But your job is on the clock. And I do
Speaker 3: think if he's keeping along the same lines that he's
Speaker 3: going in there and these sayings.
Speaker 4: About what Cody, oh, what Cody Man?
Speaker 3: I need I need some offensive playmakers. I need to
Speaker 3: solidify this offensive line. But yeah, Mike, you're on the clock.
Speaker 3: This this this has to change the philosophy of how
Speaker 3: you going in and drafted.
Speaker 5: And I got you covered right here with Donnelle Washington
Speaker 5: at your first round pick, down All Wright or either
Speaker 5: Will McDonald or Cody mitch as your second round pick.
Speaker 5: Remember that running back at Bama Gibbs still out there.
Speaker 4: That was sweet this.
Speaker 8: Day bring back good memories for you guys.
Speaker 9: Or frustrating me, Marie up the days I was passed
Speaker 9: with twelve rounds.
Speaker 3: I mean for me, I knew I wasn't going in
Speaker 3: the first round. And you know the draft when I
Speaker 3: was doing it was like the first two or three rounds,
Speaker 3: Like in that first.
Speaker 5: Day we had like six seven that my first day
Speaker 5: because it was twelve and I knew I wasn't getting drafted.
Speaker 4: I just knew I was gonna get a litt bit
Speaker 4: of money they signed with somebody.
Speaker 3: So I was always like, like, you know rounds four
Speaker 3: and five for real? Yeah I thought I thought. I
Speaker 3: thought there was some conversation there and rounds.
Speaker 4: Four or five with bold. I didn't fool me.
Speaker 3: They fooled me.
Speaker 4: I was sitting up eating French fries and drain and cook.
Speaker 5: Now I ain't even name name the beer because they
Speaker 5: don't do most players.
Speaker 8: Current players are.
Speaker 4: They more incited about this. They way more guys.
Speaker 8: Bottom on the roster kind of nervous about this day.
Speaker 5: I mean how they they always tried to draft the
Speaker 5: dude to replace me for the first four years I
Speaker 5: was here. Oh this offensive line didn't think about they'll
Speaker 5: call me fat and go out and draft somebody fatter
Speaker 5: than me.
Speaker 4: I was like, wow, way to go, Fellas.
Speaker 3: I told you guys our draft. They you know, there's
Speaker 3: one of the reasons why Jason Garrett. This is like
Speaker 3: I don't have a problem with Jason Garrett, but there's
Speaker 3: some things I just just aren't. They don't always match
Speaker 3: up from the coaching style. Because I remember I whish
Speaker 3: I had fifty two of you, not even that we're
Speaker 3: sitting in the meeting, like right now they're doing like
Speaker 3: the voluntary meeting. We had a meeting before the draft,
Speaker 3: and Jason's like, hey, we're good offensively, We're good, Like
Speaker 3: we're gonna we're gonna dive into this thing defensively. And
Speaker 3: I remember everyone leave for the like little little break,
Speaker 3: and I'm in Mexico. I'm in Mexico, uh, you know,
Speaker 3: doing my Mexico thing. And listen the cop that's Brian.
Speaker 3: I'm like, wait what what hold on? And So to
Speaker 3: answer your question, yes, I got worried because I'm I'm
Speaker 3: at the bottom and it's like if you bring in
Speaker 3: another guy that pushes the roster down, which potentially pushed
Speaker 3: me out, and my phone goes off and all the
Speaker 3: other receivers are calling him. Liked baby Beep said he
Speaker 3: we were good offensively, take you take a receiver in
Speaker 3: the first pick. So guys like Patrick Creating and Sam
Speaker 3: Herd and Roy Williams and Miles Off they were all
Speaker 3: calling me because that's what it was. But yeah, it's
Speaker 3: gonna be exciting, fun day tonight Cowboys pick at number
Speaker 3: twenty six. We'll be able to talk about all this
Speaker 3: next week. So happy drafting. To all of you guys,
Speaker 3: thanks to Nate, thanks to Kurt, thanks.
Speaker 5: To Chris, Will McDonald would be out there, so broke
Speaker 5: the second round. I'm trying to get you stable, guys.
Speaker 5: I am Zaddyaddy, I am. We're not gonna draft you tonight.
Speaker 4: We got d right.
Speaker 3: If you need a Zaddy. If you need a Zaddy,
Speaker 3: draft me.
Speaker 8: Here's the first raft.
Speaker 3: Yeah for you is the first round to pick out?
Speaker 3: This I want because I'm my draft will be slipping.
Speaker 4: So what time will? What's that we expect you to?
Speaker 8: What are you on the clock?
Speaker 3: On the clock. This is hanging with the boys.
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