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Speaker 1: We're temper watched Temper but up to Welcome into One

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Speaker 1: Bill's Live, presented by Kalidah Health. I'm Maddie Glab here

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Speaker 1: with Steve Tasker, filling for John Murph All. He's on vacation,

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Speaker 1: hopefully soaking up the rays for us because as we

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Speaker 1: see there's some snow on the ground. Uh, not too

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Speaker 1: bad weather wise, but Murph is definitely enjoying that Florida weather.

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Speaker 1: But it's Tuesday, and we're gonna talk about some great

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Speaker 1: things today. We're gonna get into the Super Bowl matchup.

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Speaker 1: Opening night was last night on Monday night. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: get into, uh, some free agency talk, some mock draft talk, uh,

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Speaker 1: some coaching tree talk with the forty nine ers and

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs talk. Kyle Shanahan talk Andy Reid how they

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Speaker 1: got into those positions, some coaches that they've learned from,

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Speaker 1: some coaches that they've taught themselves. And we're also going

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Speaker 1: to have a Sam Monson on the show. He is

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Speaker 1: the lead analyst for PF so we will talk to

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Speaker 1: him about this week's Super Bowl matchup on Sunday. So

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Speaker 1: a pretty jam packed show. But let's start with the

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Speaker 1: opening night for the Super Bowl last night, so there

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Speaker 1: everybody's in Miami. I watched a little bit of that

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Speaker 1: on NFL Network. Quite the scene. There are so many

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Speaker 1: media members there, and just to see the amount of

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Speaker 1: people around some of the bigger name players like Kittle

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Speaker 1: and Kelsey and Mahomes and Garoppolo. I mean, oh my gosh,

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Speaker 1: There were like fifty people around them. It's it's there's

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Speaker 1: even more fans. It looks like a party more than

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Speaker 1: a media availability. There's costumes and all that stuff. You

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Speaker 1: guys like dressed to like Andy the kid was there.

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Speaker 1: The guy was there, and Andy Reid's costume and it

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Speaker 1: wasn't the head coaching costume. It was the twelve year

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Speaker 1: old Andy Reid in the Los Angeles Rams costume ready

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Speaker 1: to throw a football at halftime of an NFL game. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: stuff like that going on. It's crazy, and it's part

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Speaker 1: where they you know, all these people show up and

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Speaker 1: you can't it's almost not about what the players have

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Speaker 1: is about the attention, and uh, it's it's a weird

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Speaker 1: we've all done interviews where you kind of you throw

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Speaker 1: There was a somebody was brought back some memories. I

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Speaker 1: saw something on somebody either put it on my timeline

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Speaker 1: or whatever. Back in the day, our first Super Bowl

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Speaker 1: whatever it was, yeah, almost thirty years ago, and it

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Speaker 1: was different spectacle like it is now. It was weird. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it was weird then it was now it would be

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Speaker 1: But back then it was pretty pretty cool. And I

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Speaker 1: so it was cool to hear him and watch him

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Speaker 1: game plan in and they've had their game plan in

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Speaker 1: We know our plan of attack. And even listening to

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Speaker 1: And the Chiefs backup quarterback was talking about what they've

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Speaker 1: And it becomes the overriding emotion for the entire week,

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Speaker 1: It's it's that's the whole atmosphere around the super Bowl

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Speaker 1: Because it used to be you just had a week.

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Speaker 1: extra week? Is fine. I think the extra week is good.

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Speaker 1: It's not about forgive me for saying it's not about them.

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Speaker 1: it's just another away game for them. But for fans

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Speaker 1: they need an extra week to do it. I don't

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Speaker 1: so it's all about It's the first signal that you

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Speaker 1: Despite what happens too, no matter who wins or who loses,

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Speaker 1: they didn't want us to win that Listen, Fox, CBS, NBC,

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Speaker 1: They don't care who wins. What they do want is

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Speaker 1: the last time the forty nine were in the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: Orange Bowl. Remember, well, you don't remember that, you know

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Speaker 1: what am I saying? Yeah? Okay, now what uh let's

431
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Speaker 1: see now I told you this. There are nine franchises

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Speaker 1: in the National Football League that have not won a

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl. Do you do you want to go down

434
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Speaker 1: the list? Because I don't have the list in front

435
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Speaker 1: of me. We're gonna have to, We're gonna have to this.

436
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Speaker 1: This will been great trivia questions. That's ry Buffalo, of course,

437
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Speaker 1: then it's got to be Cleveland Detroit. Let's see, I

438
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Speaker 1: have UM, so you can't look. What are you doing? Arizona,

439
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Speaker 1: somebody's got to hold you accountable, Arizona, UM, Jacksonville. I

440
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Speaker 1: got five, so that would put it. Then we've got uh,

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Speaker 1: let's see what are some others? What are the other

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Speaker 1: I'm missing some Seattle has San Francisco has what's what's

443
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Speaker 1: a newer team in the San Diego has, La Rams,

444
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Speaker 1: what's a new team? Newer team in the NFL? Jacksonville?

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Speaker 1: And Carolina? Carolina has not? Okay, so I got music

446
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Speaker 1: Music City, Tennessee. Yep, there's eight. I'm missing one. I

447
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Speaker 1: got Tennessee, Carolina, San Diego, Jacksonville, Arizona, Detroit, Cleveland, Buffalo

448
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Speaker 1: and who is it? My list has some quite different

449
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Speaker 1: different names on it. Who is it? La? Who is it?

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Speaker 1: This is nine? Got nine teams who have not won

451
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Speaker 1: a Super Bowl? Okay, so the Texans, Oh, Jaguars, Lions,

452
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Speaker 1: and Browns have never made it to a Super Bowl. Right, Yeah,

453
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Speaker 1: there's only they have made it. None of the nine

454
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Speaker 1: teams haven't won it. But some of the Browns and

455
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Speaker 1: Lions each have four NFL championships from back in the fifties.

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Speaker 1: And sixties. Meanwhile, the eight other teams on the list

457
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Speaker 1: have plenty of appearances in the Big Game but have

458
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Speaker 1: never quite sealed the deal. There's another one, Minnesota has

459
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Speaker 1: never won. Yes, Cardinal's Titans, Chargers, Falcons, Panthers, Bengals, Vikings, Bills.

460
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Speaker 1: There's this house kind of this is this guy? This

461
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Speaker 1: is wrong? Are wrong? What's going on? Says there'd be

462
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Speaker 1: nine state. Nine different franchises have yet to win a

463
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Speaker 1: single Super Bowl, but among the teams that have done so,

464
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Speaker 1: only the New York Jets have endured a longer stretch

465
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Speaker 1: than the Chiefs. That fifty one year stretch. Yeah, I've

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Speaker 1: got that's long. That's this is one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten.

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Speaker 1: There's eleven teams that I want won a Super Bowl. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: crazy talk. I'm gonna talk to my research staff. Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 1: here man, see if we have another let you have

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Speaker 1: another fun fact. That's that's wrong, okay, okay? How many? Oh?

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Speaker 1: How about this? How many? How many coaches do you

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Speaker 1: think in NFL history have appeared in more than one

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl as head coach? Say that again? How many

474
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Speaker 1: head coach? How many head coaches in NFL histor have

475
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Speaker 1: appeared in more than one Super Bowl. How many? Give me?

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Speaker 1: Give me like a it's a lot from this this,

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Speaker 1: it's a big number. It's a big number. Actually, I

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Speaker 1: didn't know. You can't see. You can't see. No, I

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Speaker 1: can't read from over now the twenty fourth. Andy Reid

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Speaker 1: is the twenty fourth head coach in NFL history to

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Speaker 1: appear in more than one Super Bowl. Of course, he

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Speaker 1: led Philadelphia to the Super Bowl and they got beat

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Speaker 1: by the Patriots twenty four, twenty one. Now, Kyle Shanahan's

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Speaker 1: the first time where a father's son, Kyle Shanahan coaching

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Speaker 1: the Niners. His dad was the offensive coordinator for the

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Speaker 1: Niners in nineteen ninety four when they won. And then,

487
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Speaker 1: of course Mike Shanahan led the Denver Broncos to two

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Speaker 1: championships with John Elway ninety eight ninety nine, I believe,

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Speaker 1: and Kyle Shanahan. There's famously, there's pictures everywhere. Now he

490
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Speaker 1: was a seventeen year old kid when on the sidelines

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Speaker 1: holding his dad's headphone cord on the side as the

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Speaker 1: offensive cord man. Yeah, that's kind of cool. Kyle was

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Speaker 1: talking to Deon Sanders last night for the opening night

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Speaker 1: for the Super Bowl during his media availability, and he

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Speaker 1: was talking about the emphasis that his dad told him

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Speaker 1: to put on defense because Kyle was always an offensive guy,

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Speaker 1: and his dad, Mike said, make sure you take the

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Speaker 1: time to learn defense because offense is gonna come. You're

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Speaker 1: gonna have offense. You're gonna get lucky with offense with players,

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Speaker 1: but defense is something you're going to have to build

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Speaker 1: and really focus on and really learn. And so make

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Speaker 1: sure you spend time as you're coming up the coaching

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Speaker 1: ranks learning defense and being able to understand that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's good. As a head coach, you're kind of required

505
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Speaker 1: to have a background in both. You got to look

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Speaker 1: at both understand both the concepts and everything. And even

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Speaker 1: if you do get some benefit from being like Sean McDermott,

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Speaker 1: who's a defensive coordinator, he'll understand concepts of offense and stuff.

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Speaker 1: But it is really, i don't want to say it's

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Speaker 1: mind bending. When you flip sides of the ball start

511
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Speaker 1: talking about it from the other side, the entire conversation

512
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Speaker 1: is somehow fundamentally changed, and it's it's like, well, you know,

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Speaker 1: it's really weird. It's really strange and so you got

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Speaker 1: to have a background in both, so you can talk

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Speaker 1: to both sides of the football and understand it for

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Speaker 1: obvious reasons. So do you think there's one that holds

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Speaker 1: more weight if you specialize in one more than the other. No,

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Speaker 1: I think I think the way that well the game,

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Speaker 1: the way the game is structured. Although this kind of

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Speaker 1: flies in the face of what we saw this year,

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Speaker 1: I think the way the game is structured offense is

522
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Speaker 1: a little bit more important because the rules are slanted

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Speaker 1: in favor of it. Now you can say the other

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Speaker 1: way and make the same argument. The other directions say,

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Speaker 1: because the defense is so limited, you got to be

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Speaker 1: really good. So you got to spend some time on

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Speaker 1: it and do some things and innovat. You got to

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Speaker 1: give a draft picks. You gotta put some investment into

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Speaker 1: that side of the football in order to be competitive.

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Speaker 1: Offense like this, we got like nineteen receivers coming out

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Speaker 1: this year. You've got enough guys to play over right,

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Speaker 1: You gott of guys to play over there. And plus

533
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Speaker 1: if the guy can't, if the guy can't get off

534
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Speaker 1: bump coverage, just use him as a slot and back

535
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Speaker 1: him off the line once so he doesn't have bump coverage,

536
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Speaker 1: or we put him in motion where they can't jam him.

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Speaker 1: So there's things you can do offensively for any of

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Speaker 1: your teams. You know well the lack of skill that

539
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Speaker 1: you may have at some positions of your team, so

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Speaker 1: there's ways to get around it. But defense, it's always

541
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Speaker 1: against you. The rules are slanted, the officials are slanted,

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Speaker 1: you know all of that stuff. So I think you

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Speaker 1: can make the argument both ways because because you got

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Speaker 1: to play both sides of the ball. I think it's

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Speaker 1: a coin flip, and I think it's so interesting also

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Speaker 1: how you're seeing the evolution of the NFL and you're

547
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Speaker 1: seeing players now have different they're different size, they're different

548
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Speaker 1: body types. They they're quicker, they're stronger, they're faster off

549
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Speaker 1: the ball, and how that's affecting how an offense is

550
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Speaker 1: ran because of what types of defensive players that you're

551
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Speaker 1: now seeing in the NFL, your edge rushers and things

552
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Speaker 1: like that, and how you're seeing now NFL offenses move

553
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Speaker 1: into more of a your core backs that we're now

554
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Speaker 1: seeing your Patrick Mahomes, you're Josh Allen's, your Lamar Jackson's,

555
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Speaker 1: howld your passers, but you're also going to be able

556
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Speaker 1: to run the ball in play action is becoming huge

557
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Speaker 1: in the NFL because of that. Yeah, it's interesting too

558
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Speaker 1: that you talk about the quarterbacks in this Pat Mahomes,

559
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 1: whose MVPs is just knocking it dead. Jimmy Garoppolo is

560
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Speaker 1: the guy who has two Super Bowl rings already, so

561
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Speaker 1: he's been down this road a couple of different Super

562
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Speaker 1: Bowl weeks, right sitting behind Tom Brady watching him do it.

563
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Speaker 1: Got two victories. Now, he didn't get on the field,

564
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Speaker 1: but let me tell you something, that experience probably is

565
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Speaker 1: priceless for him this week because you see this game,

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Speaker 1: you know, everything evolved over the course of the week.

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Speaker 1: And to be able to learn from the guys that

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Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo has learned from as a backup quarterback, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm learning from some of the best. Yeah. Yeah. To

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Speaker 1: see Patrick Mahomes come out of the scene. He hasn't

571
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Speaker 1: spent a lot of time as a backup, but it's

572
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Speaker 1: been a whole year behind Alex Smith. Yeah, and that

573
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Speaker 1: that gave him the ability to just kind of hang

574
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Speaker 1: back and learn it. Yeah, it's really good. I think,

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Speaker 1: you know, you think about what happened here in Buffalo

576
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Speaker 1: Josh allen Man week two of his rookie season. You know,

577
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Speaker 1: in the middle of his back, they push him out,

578
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Speaker 1: You push him out, in the middle of you go

579
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Speaker 1: are you ready go win it? For us? Bro? You know,

580
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Speaker 1: different situation and who knows whether they've been up or down.

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Speaker 1: You can make all the arguments you want about it,

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Speaker 1: but you know, certainly the experience was valuable for him.

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Speaker 1: That certainly led to a six and ten season two

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Speaker 1: years ago, which was no fun for anybody to go through.

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Speaker 1: But you know, the long term, maybe it'll be a

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Speaker 1: plus for him. You got to think it was. This

587
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Speaker 1: year is a big step he took forward. But sitting

588
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Speaker 1: behind a great player, particularly a great player who's invested

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Speaker 1: in you and turns around says, Okay, here's how I'm

590
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Speaker 1: doing it. What you know, Here's how I'm doing here's

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Speaker 1: I think you should do it, and then to have

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Speaker 1: a give and take with him, to say a little

593
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Speaker 1: bit different situation calls for a little bit different preparation.

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Speaker 1: That kind of thing hugely beneficial for everybody involved. Definitely,

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Speaker 1: definitely we're going to take a quick break, but when

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Speaker 1: we come back a lot more ahead. We are just

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Speaker 1: getting into our show. We're going to talk about the

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Speaker 1: coaching tree of these two staffs, from the forty nine

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Speaker 1: ers to the Chiefs. It'll be a good combo, so

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Speaker 1: stick with us. One Bill's Live from One Bill's Drive.

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Speaker 1: This is Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome back into One Bills Live.

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Speaker 1: Mattie glab here with Steve Tasker filling in for Murth today.

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Speaker 1: So I'm steering the ship. Hopefully it's off to a

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Speaker 1: great start. We'll see how it goes the next two hours.

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Speaker 1: I'm confidence not jumped in any conclusion. Steve is here

606
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Speaker 1: to help and be my support. But let's keep talking

607
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Speaker 1: about the Super Bowl. So Andy Reid Kyle Shanahan, two coaches,

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Speaker 1: two head coaches who are kind of at different points.

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Speaker 1: I would say career wise, you have Kyle Shannon, who

610
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Speaker 1: is a younger NFL coach who's kind of just coming

611
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Speaker 1: onto the scene as a head coach. And then you

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Speaker 1: have Andy Reid, who is now at his i would

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Speaker 1: say second stops as a head coach, who probably be

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Speaker 1: at Kansas City for a long time, pretty much turn

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Speaker 1: around the Eagles and is now with Kansas City. So

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Speaker 1: I thought it'd be cool to get into the coaching

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Speaker 1: trees of both coaches from the Chiefs and the forty

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Speaker 1: nine ers and kind of look at who brought Andy

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Speaker 1: Reid on the scene, who brought Kyle Shanahan on the scene,

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Speaker 1: And it's a little bit different from both. So for

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Speaker 1: Andy Reid, we're going to look at coaches that he

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Speaker 1: has kind of coached up who have gone on and

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Speaker 1: have now had successful careers and are having successful careers.

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Speaker 1: And then for Kyle Shanahan will look at coaches that

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Speaker 1: he learned under, including of course his dad. So let's

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Speaker 1: get into Andy Reid first. So his first job was

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Speaker 1: a ga with BYU. He then moved on to San Francisco,

628
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Speaker 1: Date Northern Arizona, utep Missouri. His first NFL job was

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Speaker 1: with the Green Bay Packers for some time, and then

630
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Speaker 1: he moved on to the Eagles, and he was originally

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Speaker 1: introduced as the head coach of the Eagles in nineteen

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Speaker 1: ninety nine after spending seventh season as an assistant coach

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Speaker 1: with the Packers, and he ranked sixth in NFL wins history.

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Speaker 1: He came into the season with two hundred and thirteen

635
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Speaker 1: total wins and he's the second among active coaches, behind

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Speaker 1: none other than Bill Belichick. So let's look at this

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Speaker 1: coaching tree. He's got some guys, I mean, he's got

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Speaker 1: The first one would be John Harbaugh, who's won a

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl or two Super bowl as one or two

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Speaker 1: with the Baltimore Ravens. He's won one with the Ravens.

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Speaker 1: He's won one with the Ravens. He's been obviously led

642
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Speaker 1: him hardball left, led them to an AFC title game

643
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:55,720
Speaker 1: in his first year as head coach. He won a

644
00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:57,960
Speaker 1: playoff game in the first five seasons, and he won

645
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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl in twenty twelve, that one that I

646
00:32:59,880 --> 00:33:02,760
Speaker 1: was out where the lights went out. John Harbow has

647
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:07,320
Speaker 1: had a phenomenal run as a head coach of the

648
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Speaker 1: Baltimore Ravens. And he comes from the Andy Reid coaching tree.

649
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:12,280
Speaker 1: You know who else comes from the Andy Reid coaching trees.

650
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:15,720
Speaker 1: Ron Rivera, who's now the Washington Redskins head coach. He

651
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:18,120
Speaker 1: was an Eagles linebacker coach from ninety nine to two

652
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 1: thousand and three, and then in eleven became the Panthers

653
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Speaker 1: head coach. Won the NFC South three straight years, got

654
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Speaker 1: the Panthers to Super Bowl fifty and twenty fifteen, lost

655
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:33,840
Speaker 1: that one to Denver and Peyton Manning right then Doug

656
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 1: Peterson was the offensive coordinator or a quality control coach

657
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:41,120
Speaker 1: in nine and ten for the Eagles, a quarterback coach

658
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 1: in eleven and twelve with the Eagles, and he was

659
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:46,160
Speaker 1: the Chiefs offensive coordinator when we read went to Kansas

660
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Speaker 1: City and he went straight to Philly and then led

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Speaker 1: them to a World championship seventeen. That is a direct yeah,

662
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:57,240
Speaker 1: that is a direct limb of the Andy Reid coaching tree.

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Speaker 1: And then the next one is I think my favorite

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Speaker 1: one on the list, Sean McDermott. So McDermott started out

665
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Speaker 1: with the Eagles in nineteen ninety nine as a scouting

666
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Speaker 1: administrative coordinator and took over as defensive coordinator under Andy

667
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Speaker 1: Reid after Jim Johnson passed away. So he was there

668
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Speaker 1: in two thousand and nine, two thousan ten. He was

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Speaker 1: with the Eagles from nineteen ninety nine to two thousand

670
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Speaker 1: and ten, which is a lot of time that he

671
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Speaker 1: spent under Andy Reid. So when you talked to coach

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Speaker 1: McDermott about who he's learned from, I'm sure Andy Reid

673
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Speaker 1: is at the top of the list right there. And

674
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Speaker 1: of course he went on to be with the Panthers

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Speaker 1: from two thousand eleven to two thousand and sixteen, and

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Speaker 1: now he's with the Bills. He's probably one of the

677
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Speaker 1: not probably he is one of the newer head coaches

678
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Speaker 1: who have come from Andy Reid's coaching trees, since he

679
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 1: is in his first head coaching job now with the Bills.

680
00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 1: And then you go down the list and you have

681
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Speaker 1: Matt Naggie for the Chicago Bears. And he started out

682
00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:59,759
Speaker 1: as a coaching intern in two thousand and eight under

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Speaker 1: Andy Reid with the Eagles and then moved on to

684
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Speaker 1: Kansas City and was their quarterbacks coach and then offensive coordinator.

685
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:11,440
Speaker 1: And so he spent time with read at both those places.

686
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:13,520
Speaker 1: And I was with the Bears and has been there

687
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:16,279
Speaker 1: for two years. We're not sure how that's gonna go yet,

688
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:20,400
Speaker 1: of course, not too many years to look at twenty

689
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:24,440
Speaker 1: and thirteen record there. And then the last person as

690
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:27,440
Speaker 1: Brad Childress. So he was the Eagles quarterback coach from

691
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Speaker 1: nineteen ninety nine two thousand and one, offensive coordinator for

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Speaker 1: the Eagles from two thousand and two to two thousand

693
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:35,480
Speaker 1: and five, and then was the Kansas City Chiefs offensive

694
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:38,320
Speaker 1: coordinator twenty sixteen, and then in twenty seventeen he was

695
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:41,320
Speaker 1: the assistant head coach. He was the Bears senior offensive

696
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 1: analysts this past season, and he went back and was

697
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 1: with Matt Nage, who they crossed passed with obviously on

698
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 1: the same tree. So it's John Harbaugh, Ron Rivera, Doug Peterson,

699
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:55,839
Speaker 1: Sean McDermott, Matt Deegie Brett, Matt nag, Brad Childress. All

700
00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:58,399
Speaker 1: those guys fall right off the Andy Reid coaching tree.

701
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:00,959
Speaker 1: And you look around and he read where's he at?

702
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:03,839
Speaker 1: The five guys above him who have more wins than

703
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 1: he do does as an NFL head coach, They're all

704
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Speaker 1: in the Hall of Fame. Starts with Curly Lambo, Tom Landry,

705
00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:15,840
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick, George Hallis, and Don Shula. And it's pretty

706
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 1: lofty spot with that. And right behind Andy Reid is

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Speaker 1: Marty Schottenheimer, who is not. Then it's Chuck Nole, who

708
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 1: is you know that kind of thing, Dan Reeves, Chuck Knox,

709
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:28,239
Speaker 1: Jeff Fisher, Bill Parcels. You got all these guys on

710
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Speaker 1: this list, Tom Coughlin, Mike Shanahan, all these guys have

711
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 1: those guys that I'm just mentioning Mike Holmgren. They all

712
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:38,480
Speaker 1: have fewer wins than Andy Reid, Bud Grant, Joe Gibbs,

713
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:43,719
Speaker 1: all these guys have fewer wins. Bill Kauer, Marv Levy,

714
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:45,680
Speaker 1: Tony Dungee, all these guys. You go down the list,

715
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:48,480
Speaker 1: down the top twenty five. Andy Reads at number six,

716
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 1: you got, I mean, Bill Belichick, Tom Landry, Curly Lambo,

717
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:55,719
Speaker 1: George Hallis and John don Shuler the only guys that

718
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:58,239
Speaker 1: have more wins. That's him, And you've got to think

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Speaker 1: he's at number six with still out of his coaching

720
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 1: career left in him. Yeah, he may keep going, as

721
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:09,919
Speaker 1: will probably Bill Belichick as well. He's got some time

722
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:12,400
Speaker 1: in the tank there, I think, to win some more games,

723
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Speaker 1: maybe get his first super Bowl this weekend. There's of

724
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 1: course conversation about do you let a coach like him

725
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 1: into the Hall of Fame if he hasn't won a

726
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:27,080
Speaker 1: Super Bowl, and all of those conversations. He's been pretty successful.

727
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:29,799
Speaker 1: He turned the Eagles around, He's done a lot with

728
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 1: the Chiefs. What the offense that the Chiefs have I

729
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 1: think is something that a lot of teams look at

730
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:38,480
Speaker 1: and want to be like, especially for the quarterback. Like

731
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:41,880
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes. That doesn't come around every draft, though. And

732
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 1: then you look at Kyle Shanahan and how he got

733
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 1: onto the scene newhere head coach, and he of course

734
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:50,319
Speaker 1: was groomed under his dad. His first job was with

735
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:52,960
Speaker 1: UCLA as a GA in two thousand and three, and

736
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:56,520
Speaker 1: then he went straight into the NFL. So unlike Andy Reid,

737
00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:59,759
Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan had one stint in college football and then

738
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:02,839
Speaker 1: right into the NFL. And the first coach that he

739
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:05,759
Speaker 1: was under was John Gruden from two thousand and four

740
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:08,800
Speaker 1: to two thousand and five. So Shanahan was an offensive

741
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Speaker 1: quality control coach under Gruden, and they won the Super

742
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:17,840
Speaker 1: Bowl in two thousand and two Tampa Bay Bucks. Gruden's

743
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 1: record one eleven wins, one hundred and six losses. What

744
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Speaker 1: do you think about learning under a guy like John

745
00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:26,879
Speaker 1: Gruden at Tampa Bay. Yeah, I mean, I think it's

746
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 1: a great starting point. He saw how Gruden had handled it,

747
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 1: he'd won a Super Bowl there in Tampa Bay. And

748
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:36,239
Speaker 1: then you look at the list is not as long

749
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:38,799
Speaker 1: obviously for Kyle Shanahan because he's a younger guy. But

750
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Speaker 1: you got John Gruden, he worked under Gary Kubiak and

751
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 1: you see there. Now you start to see the running

752
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:47,160
Speaker 1: game that the Niners and still in their team right now, Shannon,

753
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 1: he was with a wide receiver coach, their quarterback coach there.

754
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:53,480
Speaker 1: And then also that's the first spot with Gary Kubiak

755
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:56,200
Speaker 1: and OH sixty nine where the last couple of years

756
00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:58,840
Speaker 1: he was the offensive coordinator. And then he goes obviously

757
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 1: with Mike Shanahan and Washington where Mike Shanahan came back

758
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 1: and coached the Redskins in twenty ten through twenty thirteen,

759
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:10,920
Speaker 1: he was the offensive Kyle was Mike's offensive coordinator. And

760
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 1: then he went to Cleveland with Mike Petton and that

761
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:16,920
Speaker 1: crew who was only there for one year in twenty fourteen.

762
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:18,920
Speaker 1: And then he was also the offensive coordinator for the

763
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 1: Atlanta Falcons when they got to the Super Bowl and

764
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:24,480
Speaker 1: infamously lost the twenty eight to three lead. Yeah, so,

765
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:27,440
Speaker 1: and he was the offensive coordinator there right. So it's

766
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:31,560
Speaker 1: John Gruden, Gary Kubiak, Mike Shanahan, Mike pett and Dan Quinn.

767
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan's probably too young to have his own tree.

768
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:37,719
Speaker 1: And now he's just gotten his first three years as

769
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:40,880
Speaker 1: a head coach. If they continue to have success, and

770
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:43,880
Speaker 1: the guys that are developing up through his staff, you know,

771
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:47,759
Speaker 1: you know, come out and started to have success. Didn't

772
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:50,440
Speaker 1: have his own tree, you know, but whatever. But you

773
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:52,920
Speaker 1: look at guys like this, and Mike Holmgren has a

774
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:54,239
Speaker 1: lot of a lot to do with some of the

775
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:56,480
Speaker 1: things on Andy Reid's tree and guys who have come

776
00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:57,960
Speaker 1: in and out of that. And Andy Reid now has

777
00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:00,160
Speaker 1: been doing it for so long. A number of his

778
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:01,759
Speaker 1: guys have gone out and gone to a head coaching.

779
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:03,719
Speaker 1: A couple of them have won Super Bowls, even you know,

780
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:07,640
Speaker 1: surpassing him in that respect. So interesting to see where

781
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:11,840
Speaker 1: these coaches in their and their lineage. I as a

782
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:13,640
Speaker 1: former player, eybody used to ask you used to they

783
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:17,040
Speaker 1: don't too much anymore. They say, you know everything about coaching, yea,

784
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:20,440
Speaker 1: And my answer was always there's no way. I mean,

785
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:24,120
Speaker 1: you look at these guys, Kyle Shannah and you know,

786
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:26,719
Speaker 1: since in the last ten fifteen years, he's been in

787
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:28,640
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay, He's been in Houston, he's been in Washington,

788
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:31,040
Speaker 1: he's been in Cleveland, has been in Atlanta. That's a

789
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:33,759
Speaker 1: coach's life for you. You're moving around, your working all

790
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:36,239
Speaker 1: the time. That's the way it is NonStop, and you

791
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:39,279
Speaker 1: just you're and it's not just like, well, hey, we're

792
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 1: gonna go now, we're gonna go over here to live

793
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:42,960
Speaker 1: in Philly. It's like you're out of work. Then you

794
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:44,440
Speaker 1: got to go out and beat the bushes and try

795
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:46,319
Speaker 1: and find a job. And then he's like, oh, this

796
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:50,680
Speaker 1: one's in Oh, this one's in Boise. Okay, here we honey,

797
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 1: pack up the kids and you're off to Boise. And

798
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:55,919
Speaker 1: then it's like, oh, we're back in the NFL. Hunt,

799
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Speaker 1: We're going to Arizona. Okay, great, Hey, we love it

800
00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:00,080
Speaker 1: in Arizona's great. Well, you know what, we're not here

801
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:02,960
Speaker 1: anymore now and now we're in Green Bay. So it's

802
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 1: just that's what coaching is. You stay as long as

803
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:09,759
Speaker 1: you win, and when you have a bad season, and

804
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:12,400
Speaker 1: when something else happens, you move on. Or if you

805
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:15,239
Speaker 1: get a promotion, it's not just a promotion in the

806
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:17,920
Speaker 1: same company. You get a promotion your quarterback coach here,

807
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:20,600
Speaker 1: now you're the offensive coordinator, and you got to move again.

808
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 1: That's why you don't want to be a coach. And

809
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:24,640
Speaker 1: these these two head coaching Now Andy Reid's been in

810
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 1: two places over the last fifteen twenty years or twenty

811
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:29,040
Speaker 1: years since ninety nine, he's been in Philly and now

812
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:32,880
Speaker 1: in Kansas City. When you're a head coach, that's fine, yeah,

813
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:35,759
Speaker 1: and the money makes it worth it. But man, oh man,

814
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:38,920
Speaker 1: think about where these coaches, you know, where Kyle Shanahan

815
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:41,799
Speaker 1: has been since in the last ten years or fifteen years,

816
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:44,400
Speaker 1: and think about your life and how different it would be.

817
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:46,720
Speaker 1: It's it's a tough choice to make for your family,

818
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:50,120
Speaker 1: Oh definitely. And I've got to say looking at the

819
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 1: Bills coaching staff and just how tough a life it

820
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:57,480
Speaker 1: is to be a coach. In general. We see families

821
00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:00,279
Speaker 1: and kids here inside the building all the time. I

822
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:03,160
Speaker 1: think Brandon me and Sean McDermott do an amazing job

823
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:07,040
Speaker 1: with balancing family and work because there's many nights here

824
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:10,160
Speaker 1: where you'll see the coaches kids running around and wives

825
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:12,560
Speaker 1: in here, and they make sure that they spend time

826
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 1: to have the families over, whether it's once a week

827
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:18,000
Speaker 1: for dinner, one night, so the coaches can take a

828
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 1: break and reset for an hour or two during the season.

829
00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 1: But I think that's really important to have and it's

830
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:26,080
Speaker 1: always cool seeing the kids run around here and getting

831
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:30,400
Speaker 1: to build relationships with the kids and the coaches wives,

832
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:33,239
Speaker 1: because it makes it feel like it truly is one

833
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:35,440
Speaker 1: family here at One Builds Drive, and they do a

834
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:38,000
Speaker 1: great job of doing that with their families as well

835
00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:39,759
Speaker 1: as showing that to the players. And you see a

836
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Speaker 1: lot of the players kids running around here too in season. Right, Yeah,

837
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:45,960
Speaker 1: I agree, and it's yeah, what's the fun of having

838
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:47,359
Speaker 1: a good life if you don't have anybody to share

839
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Speaker 1: it with? Right, exactly exactly, We're gonna take a break,

840
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:52,880
Speaker 1: but when we come back, we're gonna hear from Sam

841
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:56,880
Speaker 1: Monson soon. He is the lead analyst for PFF. We're

842
00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:59,240
Speaker 1: going to talk to him about the Super Bowl matchup

843
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:02,920
Speaker 1: and some other things in the NFL. So stick with us.

844
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Speaker 1: One Bill's Live from One Bill's Drive. Welcome back into

845
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:26,480
Speaker 1: One Bill's Live. Mattie glab here with Steve Tasker filling

846
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:29,680
Speaker 1: in for John Murphy who is on vacation. We hope

847
00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:32,160
Speaker 1: he's having a great VACA. We're holding down the fort

848
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:36,239
Speaker 1: here in Buffalo. Steve, We've got a couple minutes to

849
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:39,400
Speaker 1: talk about whatever you want to talk about. Well, we

850
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:41,719
Speaker 1: got a ton of stuff we can talk about. Do

851
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:44,840
Speaker 1: you have more facts? Do I do talk free agency.

852
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:47,759
Speaker 1: Do we want to talk Philip Rivers and some league news?

853
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:49,319
Speaker 1: I got one for you. Get what do you think?

854
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:52,000
Speaker 1: Here's the thing. Nobody can remember what he looks like

855
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:55,320
Speaker 1: until they see him on TV. When Super Bowl Sunday

856
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 1: comes around. Bill Vinovitch is going to be the lead

857
00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:03,000
Speaker 1: official for the NFL Okay Super Bowl h He is

858
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:06,279
Speaker 1: the head referee. The Chiefs are ten and six in

859
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:09,360
Speaker 1: games he's been a part of the officiating crew. The

860
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:12,920
Speaker 1: Niners are six and six. If that tells you anything,

861
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:16,480
Speaker 1: which I don't know if it does or not. And

862
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 1: also in this game, we're gonna we can talk to

863
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:22,280
Speaker 1: this about Sam Monson when he comes on. Garoppolo attempted

864
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:25,000
Speaker 1: you only tried eight passes in the NFC Championship game.

865
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:27,520
Speaker 1: You want to talk about a thumping. The Niners really

866
00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:30,480
Speaker 1: did it to the past. That is incredible. They crushed

867
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:34,239
Speaker 1: those guys. That that amount on the stat sheet that

868
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:37,239
Speaker 1: when is the last time that has been done? And

869
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:40,120
Speaker 1: do you think is there going to be something similar

870
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 1: to that in I don't think they can win the game.

871
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:43,839
Speaker 1: I don't think forty Niners can win the game throwing

872
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:45,320
Speaker 1: at just eight times. I don't think they're gonna be

873
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:47,160
Speaker 1: able to do it because I think the Chiefs are

874
00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:49,200
Speaker 1: gonna ring it up. Here's another one. Here's another thing

875
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:51,440
Speaker 1: for you too. You think one of the cut players

876
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:53,640
Speaker 1: on this team for the Niners is d Ford, who

877
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:55,960
Speaker 1: was with the Chiefs last year. Now, for those of

878
00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:57,879
Speaker 1: you who don't know, think about this and you might

879
00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 1: remember it if you watch that that Patriots Chiefs championship

880
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:04,760
Speaker 1: game in overtime last year, the one where Patrick Mahomes

881
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:07,279
Speaker 1: never got the ball in overtime and all that the

882
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:12,200
Speaker 1: Chiefs had won the game except for the guy they

883
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:15,680
Speaker 1: intercepted a pass. Remember, the game was over, they're gonna

884
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:18,960
Speaker 1: kneel on the ball. But wait a minute. One of

885
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:22,200
Speaker 1: the defensive ends for the Chiefs jumped off sides, so

886
00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 1: the play didn't count and they went on to lose it.

887
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 1: It was d Ford, who now plays for the San

888
00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:32,359
Speaker 1: Francisco forty nine ers. Now can you imagine being that

889
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:38,280
Speaker 1: guy if he doesn't jump off sides on that play

890
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:41,600
Speaker 1: the Chiefs intercepted. Game's over, game is over, the Chiefs

891
00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:44,240
Speaker 1: are going to their Super Bowl. D Ford had jumped

892
00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:46,000
Speaker 1: off side and it was obvious it was a good call,

893
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:50,000
Speaker 1: easy call. They lose because of that. Now he's had

894
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:51,759
Speaker 1: to live with the left Kansas City, now is with

895
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:54,880
Speaker 1: San Francisco, and now he's in the Super Bowl against

896
00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:56,960
Speaker 1: the Chiefs. You don't think the Chiefs are hoping he

897
00:45:57,040 --> 00:46:00,319
Speaker 1: jumps off side for them? I'm sure they are also.

898
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:03,279
Speaker 1: Mahomes is going to be the fifth youngest quarterback to

899
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:06,480
Speaker 1: ever start a Super Bowl? The other four do you

900
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:09,080
Speaker 1: know the other four? You might not? You know him?

901
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:11,040
Speaker 1: Here we go, first one, the youngest one to ever

902
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:13,080
Speaker 1: start a Super Bowl? You know who that is? Who?

903
00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:17,400
Speaker 1: Dan Marino? How old was he? He was twenty three?

904
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:19,399
Speaker 1: I knew you're gonna ask me that. I didn't he

905
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:22,400
Speaker 1: was twenty three and a few years old or twenty

906
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:23,920
Speaker 1: four and a few years old old. I've got I've

907
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:25,480
Speaker 1: got the list here. Let me. I'm gonna have to

908
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:28,360
Speaker 1: go back and look at this. And it didn't always

909
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 1: go go well for the for the teams, who for

910
00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:35,400
Speaker 1: the players who were who have young quarterbacks? Who have

911
00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:38,160
Speaker 1: young quarterback Now, anytime you pretty much look at stats,

912
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:41,919
Speaker 1: never favors the younger quarterbacks. This is I'm never gonna

913
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:43,840
Speaker 1: find it until here we go. I got there. I

914
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 1: got their numbers in the games Okay, there's only been

915
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:48,600
Speaker 1: one who who's won, and it was the second youngest.

916
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:51,160
Speaker 1: You know who. The second youngest was who won the

917
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:54,960
Speaker 1: Super Bowl, Ben roethlis Beth. You know what he did

918
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:57,800
Speaker 1: in that game. He was nine of twenty one for

919
00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:00,600
Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty three yards, two inter sets and

920
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:03,360
Speaker 1: at a twenty two point six quarterback ratings, the worst

921
00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:07,319
Speaker 1: quarterback the game. With that quarterback who won the Super Bowl.

922
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:10,960
Speaker 1: Then after that it was David Woodley who listen to

923
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:14,279
Speaker 1: this was four of fourteen for ninety seven yards in

924
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:17,840
Speaker 1: the game and a touchdown of fourteen for ninety seven yards.

925
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:21,160
Speaker 1: And of the ninety seven yards passing he had, seventy

926
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:23,279
Speaker 1: six of it came on one play in the third

927
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:26,120
Speaker 1: play of the game when he hit Jimmy Suffalo for

928
00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 1: seventy six yard touchdown pass. So after that he went

929
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:34,000
Speaker 1: three of thirteen for twenty one yards for the rest

930
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:38,840
Speaker 1: of the game and he won it. Then the fourth

931
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:42,080
Speaker 1: youngest Jared Goff just last year nineteen of thirty eight

932
00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:45,680
Speaker 1: for two hundred and twenty nine yards. Fifth youngest quarterbacks

933
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 1: coming up this Sunday, Pat Mahomes will see how he does.

934
00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:50,920
Speaker 1: It has not gone well for young quarterbacks. Even the

935
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:54,719
Speaker 1: one young quarterback who won, Ben Roethlisberger, played horribly in

936
00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:58,280
Speaker 1: that game. I think it'll go pretty good for Patrick Mahomes.

937
00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:01,560
Speaker 1: He is a very talented quarterback. Forty nine Ers have

938
00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 1: a great defense, but Patrick Mahomes is very smart and

939
00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 1: he has quite a few weapons. One of is named

940
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:11,560
Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey, who I think will play a big impact

941
00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:13,640
Speaker 1: in this game. I think a little bit bigger than

942
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:16,360
Speaker 1: George Kittle with what Travis Kelsey can do on the

943
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:20,240
Speaker 1: field and how he is involved when it comes to Yeah,

944
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:21,719
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be I think it's gonna be

945
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:24,040
Speaker 1: a really good game. But I do think the Niners,

946
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:26,840
Speaker 1: and I think Kyle Shanahan's is on it enough to

947
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:28,640
Speaker 1: have this on the table, They're going to be able

948
00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:30,800
Speaker 1: to throw the football and score points. With the Chiefs,

949
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:34,080
Speaker 1: I think the guy that's really going under the radar

950
00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:38,520
Speaker 1: and this whole thing is as Steve Spagnola, the Chiefs

951
00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:42,120
Speaker 1: defensive coordinator. The Chiefs have elevated their defensive play and

952
00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:43,920
Speaker 1: I think it's going to be up to that side

953
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:46,120
Speaker 1: of the ball in this game, that defense, or the

954
00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 1: Kansas City Chiefs just get a couple of stops until

955
00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:51,880
Speaker 1: the Chiefs find Themselut, I think that the Chiefs are

956
00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:53,400
Speaker 1: gonna be held off their game a little bit by

957
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:55,959
Speaker 1: this Niner defense. It's just too good. But they're gonna

958
00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:57,840
Speaker 1: make some plays and it's going to be up to

959
00:48:57,880 --> 00:49:00,799
Speaker 1: the Chiefs defense to aunt Sir. I think they're going

960
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:02,600
Speaker 1: to have to make Jimmy g throw the ball, and

961
00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:04,719
Speaker 1: I think they are cave more than capable of doing

962
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:07,080
Speaker 1: that with a pass rush of four because of the line.

963
00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:10,440
Speaker 1: We'll see. I think that's the big question. Yeah, the run.

964
00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:13,920
Speaker 1: Can the run game of the Niners dominate? And can

965
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:16,799
Speaker 1: their defense give their offense enough time to stay with

966
00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:19,560
Speaker 1: their running game? Can they do that? Can it be

967
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:23,040
Speaker 1: first one? It's a big question. It's a one point difference.

968
00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:27,000
Speaker 1: The Chiefs are favored by one. That is a close game.

969
00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:29,359
Speaker 1: I guess it's gonna be fun. We'll see. We're gonna

970
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:32,280
Speaker 1: ask Sam on Onson some of these questions and many more.

971
00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:34,920
Speaker 1: Coming up at one o'clock, we are talking to the

972
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:39,160
Speaker 1: Pro Football Focus lead analyst Sam Munson. Coming up, Don't

973
00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:56,400
Speaker 1: Go Anywhere, Bills Radio Network Sports. It is time for

974
00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:59,560
Speaker 1: the sports update from One Bill's Drive. The Browns announced

975
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:02,080
Speaker 1: today that they have named Andrew Barry as the team's

976
00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:06,000
Speaker 1: executive vice president of Football Operations and general manager. Barry

977
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:08,719
Speaker 1: is a former Brown's vice president of player personnel who

978
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:11,080
Speaker 1: spent the twenty nineteenth season with the Eagles as a

979
00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:14,960
Speaker 1: VP of football Operations. Barry will be introduced as at

980
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:18,680
Speaker 1: a press conference on February fit. A Florida judge free

981
00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:22,280
Speaker 1: to NFL free agent Antonio Brown from house arrest this morning,

982
00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:25,279
Speaker 1: allowing him to travel freely as he awaits trial on

983
00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:28,040
Speaker 1: charges that he attacked the driver of a moving truck.

984
00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:30,759
Speaker 1: The judge agreed to let Brown travel freely within the

985
00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:34,680
Speaker 1: United States so he can fulfill contractual obligations, so instead

986
00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:37,640
Speaker 1: of wearing an ankle GPS monitor, Brown will have to

987
00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:40,760
Speaker 1: check in with court personnel daily. The Sapers are hosting

988
00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:43,880
Speaker 1: the Ottawa Senators tonight for a seven o'clock face off. Sabers.

989
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:46,960
Speaker 1: Game Night on MSG begins at six thirty with brined

990
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:50,080
Speaker 1: Up and Marty buron. You can also catch pregame coverage

991
00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:53,319
Speaker 1: on WGR five fifty beginning at six with Mike Shop

992
00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:56,000
Speaker 1: in the Shop and the Bulldog. Rob Ray will join

993
00:50:56,080 --> 00:50:58,799
Speaker 1: them live at four o'clock. During their show, it was

994
00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:01,840
Speaker 1: reported that Nah Shell legend and Hockey Hall of Famer

995
00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:05,480
Speaker 1: Ed Belfour was arrested this morning in Bowling Green, Kentucky,

996
00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:10,160
Speaker 1: on mischief and intoxication charges. Belfor reportedly had been drinking

997
00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:12,640
Speaker 1: on the first floor of the Kentucky Grand Hotel and

998
00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:16,080
Speaker 1: Spa before attempting to fight a hotel employee in striking

999
00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:18,600
Speaker 1: a window in anger. He was found on the second

1000
00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:22,640
Speaker 1: floor when officers arrived. Belfer spent eighteen seasons in the

1001
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:27,040
Speaker 1: NHL with the Blackhawks, Sharks, Stars, Maple Leafs and Panthers.

1002
00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:31,759
Speaker 1: The Penguins have agreed to terms with defenceman Marcus Peterson

1003
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 1: on a five year, twenty million dollar contract extension. The

1004
00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:37,800
Speaker 1: deal will kick in at the beginning of the twenty

1005
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:41,160
Speaker 1: twenty twenty one season and run through twenty twenty four

1006
00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:44,520
Speaker 1: through twenty five, carrying an average annual value of four

1007
00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:49,040
Speaker 1: million dollars. Peterson has fifteen points in fifty games this season,

1008
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:52,319
Speaker 1: and it has been reported that Houston Astros could be

1009
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:54,719
Speaker 1: on the verge of hiring Dusty Baker to be their

1010
00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:57,560
Speaker 1: new manager. Per the report, Baker's contract has yet to

1011
00:51:57,600 --> 00:52:00,080
Speaker 1: be finalized, and the club is not confirmed that that

1012
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:03,400
Speaker 1: has offered Baker the position yet. Baker has managed twenty

1013
00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:06,320
Speaker 1: two season in the major leagues, most recently the manager

1014
00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:10,160
Speaker 1: of the Nationals from twenty sixteen to twenty seventeen. And

1015
00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:12,520
Speaker 1: now we are joined by Sam Monson. He is the

1016
00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:17,160
Speaker 1: Pro Football Focus lead lead NFL analysts. He also hosts

1017
00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:20,400
Speaker 1: the PF NFL Show. Sam, Thank you so much for

1018
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:23,280
Speaker 1: being on with us. Mattie glab here with Steve Tasker.

1019
00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:25,960
Speaker 1: How are you doing today? Are you going to be

1020
00:52:26,080 --> 00:52:30,680
Speaker 1: at the Super Bowl doing good? Thanks for having me. Yeah,

1021
00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:34,759
Speaker 1: we're actually at the Miami Convention Center right now. So

1022
00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:37,840
Speaker 1: we've got foliage in the background, We've got people all

1023
00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:41,759
Speaker 1: over the place in here, and yeah, we're PFF has

1024
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:45,239
Speaker 1: posted out Dan here for the entire week at trying

1025
00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:48,440
Speaker 1: to get all kinds of content done and then obviously

1026
00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:51,080
Speaker 1: reviewing the big Game. You guys have done a lot

1027
00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:53,719
Speaker 1: of extensive film work already. What are your some of

1028
00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:55,000
Speaker 1: your thoughts? And I was going to ask you the

1029
00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:58,560
Speaker 1: first thing when you get into these games, every kind

1030
00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:00,359
Speaker 1: of phase of the season is different, and has there

1031
00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:02,279
Speaker 1: been anybody for each of these teams, or maybe one

1032
00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:05,279
Speaker 1: from each of these teams, one player or group of

1033
00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:08,640
Speaker 1: players who have really elevated for the playoffs, somebody who's

1034
00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:11,400
Speaker 1: started to play a little bit differently than you analyze

1035
00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:14,480
Speaker 1: them during the regular season. Yeah, I mean, I think

1036
00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:17,960
Speaker 1: the most obvious one is Patrick Mahomes. The Chiefs quarterback

1037
00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:20,440
Speaker 1: has been you know, we know him as an MVP

1038
00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:23,920
Speaker 1: level superstar, and for most of the season he wasn't

1039
00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:25,920
Speaker 1: that guy. And it was all due to injuries. You know,

1040
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:28,239
Speaker 1: he was banged up. We had the ankle injury, he

1041
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:31,800
Speaker 1: dislocated his kneecap. He then got back, he hurt his hand,

1042
00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:34,480
Speaker 1: he heard his chest. He has been dealing with all

1043
00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:37,080
Speaker 1: kinds of things over the course of the season, and

1044
00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:39,319
Speaker 1: then he got that bye week, he got the week

1045
00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:42,439
Speaker 1: to get healthy and heading into the postseason, so far,

1046
00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:45,440
Speaker 1: he's been a completely different player. He's been backing to

1047
00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:48,680
Speaker 1: his very, very best. His run so far has been

1048
00:53:48,680 --> 00:53:51,480
Speaker 1: the best graded run we have ever seen from a

1049
00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:55,560
Speaker 1: quarterback during the time PFF has been grading. And as

1050
00:53:55,560 --> 00:53:57,680
Speaker 1: long as Patrick Mahomes is at that kind of level,

1051
00:53:57,920 --> 00:54:00,960
Speaker 1: you know that Chiefs offense is nion and stop. For

1052
00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:03,759
Speaker 1: people who don't really know what PFF is or don't

1053
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:06,560
Speaker 1: follow PFF regularly, could you kind of explain some of

1054
00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:09,120
Speaker 1: the grades that you guys take into account when grading

1055
00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:12,360
Speaker 1: a quarterback and other players what you look at that

1056
00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:14,799
Speaker 1: other outlets may not look at to come up with

1057
00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:18,360
Speaker 1: your grades. Yeah, I mean we watch it a grade

1058
00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:20,759
Speaker 1: every single player on every single play, and what we

1059
00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:24,040
Speaker 1: try and do is, you know, differentiate what the player

1060
00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:27,520
Speaker 1: actually did from the results on the play that probably

1061
00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:30,560
Speaker 1: you know that depend on his teammates making play. So

1062
00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:33,200
Speaker 1: for quarterbacks, you know, if a quarterback throws the ball

1063
00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:35,719
Speaker 1: right to a defender, we're going to downgrade that guy,

1064
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:38,400
Speaker 1: whether the defender catches it or not, because it's a

1065
00:54:38,440 --> 00:54:40,719
Speaker 1: bad play. Similarly, you know, there are a lot of

1066
00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:44,600
Speaker 1: good plays on offense that aren't necessarily good quarterback plays.

1067
00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:48,040
Speaker 1: Whether it's a receiver going up over a defensive back

1068
00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:50,120
Speaker 1: and you know, just mossing the guy deep down the

1069
00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:53,600
Speaker 1: field to win what was basically a jump ball, a

1070
00:54:53,960 --> 00:54:56,839
Speaker 1: heave and hope play, or whether it's a simple screen past.

1071
00:54:57,000 --> 00:54:59,560
Speaker 1: You know, it's a play you expect every single quarterback

1072
00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:02,040
Speaker 1: to make. With the difference between a five yard game

1073
00:55:02,120 --> 00:55:05,040
Speaker 1: a fifty yard game is what the ball carrier does

1074
00:55:05,080 --> 00:55:07,840
Speaker 1: with the ball in his hands. That doesn't change the

1075
00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:10,800
Speaker 1: grade for the quarterback in our eyes, which just changes

1076
00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:13,120
Speaker 1: the numbers on the back end. One of the things

1077
00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:15,560
Speaker 1: that about this Chiefs team that came into this game is,

1078
00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:17,360
Speaker 1: you know, last year they did not get to the

1079
00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:21,360
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. Their defense was I don't want to say laughable,

1080
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:23,000
Speaker 1: but it was a weak spot in their team. And

1081
00:55:23,080 --> 00:55:27,400
Speaker 1: now with Spagnola as their defensive coordinator, they've elevated and

1082
00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:30,360
Speaker 1: kind of it progressed. And here in the last well,

1083
00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:33,399
Speaker 1: you tell me, over the last how many games has

1084
00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:37,439
Speaker 1: this chief defense become something better than it has been

1085
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:40,760
Speaker 1: in the past. Yeah, the second hand, for the season,

1086
00:55:40,760 --> 00:55:43,400
Speaker 1: it's definitely been a different unit. I think the difference

1087
00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:46,680
Speaker 1: between certainly a year ago and now they haven't become

1088
00:55:46,719 --> 00:55:49,760
Speaker 1: a great defense, But what they've done is they've changed

1089
00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:52,600
Speaker 1: how they approached games. They don't just say this is

1090
00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:55,040
Speaker 1: our system. We run man coverage and if you can

1091
00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:58,520
Speaker 1: beat that, we're in trouble. They look at who the

1092
00:55:58,520 --> 00:56:01,800
Speaker 1: opposition is and they say, okay, in order to defeat

1093
00:56:01,880 --> 00:56:04,680
Speaker 1: this team, this is the game plan we need to have.

1094
00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:07,920
Speaker 1: And they are a much more game plan oriented defense

1095
00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:11,640
Speaker 1: now than they were and not just inherently causes opposition

1096
00:56:11,680 --> 00:56:15,319
Speaker 1: offenses more trouble than the old system. So I don't

1097
00:56:15,320 --> 00:56:18,320
Speaker 1: think this Chiefs defense is great, but it's definitely capable

1098
00:56:18,600 --> 00:56:21,280
Speaker 1: of coming up with top notch game plans to really

1099
00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:24,160
Speaker 1: cause teams problems. We are on with Sam Anson, he

1100
00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:27,239
Speaker 1: is the lead analyst for PFF. When looking at the

1101
00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:31,440
Speaker 1: Chiefs defense and where the forty nine Ers offense succeeds,

1102
00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:33,960
Speaker 1: what do you think the forty nine Ers offense needs

1103
00:56:33,960 --> 00:56:36,680
Speaker 1: to do to have success against the Chiefs defense, who's

1104
00:56:36,680 --> 00:56:39,319
Speaker 1: obviously playing a lot better this season, But there has

1105
00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:41,839
Speaker 1: to be some holes in the Chiefs defense. So where

1106
00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:45,480
Speaker 1: do you think the forty nine Ers need to capitalize? Yeah.

1107
00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:47,120
Speaker 1: I mean a lot of people think that the key

1108
00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:49,280
Speaker 1: to this game is the run game for the forty

1109
00:56:49,360 --> 00:56:51,279
Speaker 1: nine Ers because of what we just saw in the

1110
00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:54,759
Speaker 1: NFC Championship game and because the Chiefs don't have a

1111
00:56:55,160 --> 00:56:58,200
Speaker 1: particularly strong run defense. But I think they've shown the

1112
00:56:58,239 --> 00:57:01,600
Speaker 1: ability to shut down run heavy teams when that's when

1113
00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:04,120
Speaker 1: they want to do. You know, they went in and

1114
00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:06,440
Speaker 1: played the Minnesota Vikings, a team that loves to run

1115
00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:09,000
Speaker 1: the ball as well, and they just sold out against

1116
00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:11,480
Speaker 1: the run because they knew that was how to stop them.

1117
00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:14,040
Speaker 1: What I think the real key is is the forty

1118
00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:16,560
Speaker 1: nine Ers target the middle of the field more than

1119
00:57:16,640 --> 00:57:19,480
Speaker 1: any other team in the NFL. There are sixty percent

1120
00:57:19,480 --> 00:57:21,960
Speaker 1: of their passes are over the middle. It's a much

1121
00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:24,840
Speaker 1: higher figure than anybody else. And the Chiefs are not

1122
00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:27,520
Speaker 1: particularly strong when you look at their linebackers. When you

1123
00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:30,040
Speaker 1: look at the guys that patrol the middle of the field,

1124
00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:33,400
Speaker 1: they didn't made some adjustments recently, whether it's you know,

1125
00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:35,760
Speaker 1: moving Tyron Matthew to take more of that sort of

1126
00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:40,120
Speaker 1: linebacker role in the middle of the pick up some

1127
00:57:40,200 --> 00:57:42,320
Speaker 1: of those plays. But they need to find a way

1128
00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:44,800
Speaker 1: of slowing down what the forty Niners want to do

1129
00:57:44,840 --> 00:57:47,960
Speaker 1: in a passing game, because I think on paper that's

1130
00:57:47,960 --> 00:57:53,320
Speaker 1: a mismatch. Do you think it's a strategic philosophy that

1131
00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:57,720
Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan uses against Garoppolo? I mean with Garoppolo that hey,

1132
00:57:57,720 --> 00:57:59,360
Speaker 1: we need you to throw, or that's just what you're

1133
00:57:59,360 --> 00:58:01,920
Speaker 1: good at. Philosophical or is it just a function of

1134
00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:04,720
Speaker 1: the players. Why do you think the Niners depend so

1135
00:58:04,840 --> 00:58:07,160
Speaker 1: much on what happens between the numbers and their passing game.

1136
00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:11,320
Speaker 1: I think it's definitely a philosophical thing, and consequently, I

1137
00:58:11,360 --> 00:58:14,360
Speaker 1: think they've built the offense from a personnel stat point

1138
00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:16,760
Speaker 1: to do it you know, so George Kittle, Kyle Uschak,

1139
00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:21,240
Speaker 1: the Receiver's Deebo, Samuel Emmanuel Sanders. Almost all of those

1140
00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:24,600
Speaker 1: guys operate probably better across the middle than they do outside,

1141
00:58:24,680 --> 00:58:28,280
Speaker 1: but certainly you know, as well across the middle as

1142
00:58:28,320 --> 00:58:30,480
Speaker 1: they do on the perimeter. So I think it's definitely

1143
00:58:30,520 --> 00:58:33,919
Speaker 1: a philosophical thing with how Kyle Shanahan likes to run

1144
00:58:33,960 --> 00:58:37,000
Speaker 1: his offense, and they've been able to put the personnel

1145
00:58:37,040 --> 00:58:39,480
Speaker 1: group around him to do it better than ever before.

1146
00:58:40,120 --> 00:58:43,680
Speaker 1: Richard Sherman was selected as PFF's top coverage defender for

1147
00:58:43,760 --> 00:58:46,520
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen. And when you look at his stats, they

1148
00:58:46,520 --> 00:58:49,280
Speaker 1: may not like bounce off the stat sheet compared against

1149
00:58:49,360 --> 00:58:51,720
Speaker 1: some other corners in the league. But what did he

1150
00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:54,880
Speaker 1: do that made you want to select him for an

1151
00:58:54,880 --> 00:58:59,000
Speaker 1: award like that being the top coverage defender? Well, I

1152
00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:00,800
Speaker 1: think the stats really did jump off the page that

1153
00:59:00,920 --> 00:59:02,720
Speaker 1: you just need to look a little bit deeper than

1154
00:59:02,760 --> 00:59:06,280
Speaker 1: the interception numbers, because when you start looking at passer

1155
00:59:06,360 --> 00:59:10,040
Speaker 1: rating aloud and completion rate into his coverage, he's got

1156
00:59:10,120 --> 00:59:13,240
Speaker 1: incredible numbers there. It really has for his entire career.

1157
00:59:13,560 --> 00:59:16,520
Speaker 1: But he bounced back this season and is the player.

1158
00:59:16,600 --> 00:59:20,080
Speaker 1: He used to be back in Secattle before that achilles injury,

1159
00:59:20,120 --> 00:59:22,520
Speaker 1: but he's you know, simply put, he is the hardest

1160
00:59:22,520 --> 00:59:26,720
Speaker 1: cornerback in the NFL to regularly complete passes against, and

1161
00:59:26,840 --> 00:59:30,080
Speaker 1: certainly to complete big plays against. I know Davante Adams

1162
00:59:30,120 --> 00:59:33,280
Speaker 1: got him with one in the NFC Championship game that

1163
00:59:33,360 --> 00:59:36,560
Speaker 1: sparked that whole Reva Sherman bickering on Twitter. But one

1164
00:59:36,600 --> 00:59:39,000
Speaker 1: of the reasons that was so remarkable is because it

1165
00:59:39,080 --> 00:59:42,720
Speaker 1: just doesn't happen. That was the only deep twenty plus

1166
00:59:42,760 --> 00:59:45,439
Speaker 1: yard target that Richard Sherman has been beaten for all

1167
00:59:45,440 --> 00:59:48,200
Speaker 1: season long. And as long as he's able to do that,

1168
00:59:48,520 --> 00:59:51,440
Speaker 1: it hugely helps out of defense can focus more on

1169
00:59:51,520 --> 00:59:54,880
Speaker 1: the underneath stuff in front of them. What about this

1170
00:59:55,040 --> 00:59:58,720
Speaker 1: Chief's offense, and it's so prolific, it's very pass heavy.

1171
00:59:59,000 --> 01:00:01,800
Speaker 1: Andy Reid even when he was back in Philadelphia, he

1172
01:00:01,840 --> 01:00:04,840
Speaker 1: wishes he could throw the football every single play. I mean,

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01:00:04,880 --> 01:00:07,160
Speaker 1: that's what you're kind of up against him. Plus, the

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01:00:07,240 --> 01:00:09,720
Speaker 1: thing that sets the Chiefs apart for just a casual

1175
01:00:09,760 --> 01:00:13,400
Speaker 1: fan watching is many. They're fast everywhere. Their third option

1176
01:00:13,440 --> 01:00:16,200
Speaker 1: to Sammy Watkins, and he's a four three guy coming out.

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01:00:16,240 --> 01:00:20,640
Speaker 1: I mean, how does that present itself to this particular

1178
01:00:20,720 --> 01:00:24,920
Speaker 1: San Francisco defense. Yeah, it's a huge challenge, and you're right,

1179
01:00:24,920 --> 01:00:27,640
Speaker 1: there's speed all over that team. And I think really

1180
01:00:27,680 --> 01:00:30,320
Speaker 1: one of the keys is those third guys, the Sammy

1181
01:00:30,360 --> 01:00:34,600
Speaker 1: Watkins and Mikole Hardman's because everybody knows, you know, Tyreek

1182
01:00:34,640 --> 01:00:37,480
Speaker 1: Hill has arguably the most dangerous receiver in the NFL.

1183
01:00:37,760 --> 01:00:40,200
Speaker 1: You might be the fastest receiver in the NFL. And

1184
01:00:40,320 --> 01:00:42,440
Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey is their go to guy over the middle

1185
01:00:42,440 --> 01:00:44,920
Speaker 1: as well. So those are the first two people you're

1186
01:00:44,920 --> 01:00:47,480
Speaker 1: going to try and take away. And you can do that.

1187
01:00:47,520 --> 01:00:49,800
Speaker 1: It's it's hard, but you can kind of double team

1188
01:00:49,840 --> 01:00:53,280
Speaker 1: two different guys, but that means you're leaving somebody else

1189
01:00:53,520 --> 01:00:56,640
Speaker 1: with single coverage, and with single coverage where the attention

1190
01:00:57,160 --> 01:01:00,560
Speaker 1: is focusing somewhere else as well. So guys like Sammy

1191
01:01:00,600 --> 01:01:03,600
Speaker 1: Watkins and Miko Hardbot could have huge games because they're

1192
01:01:03,640 --> 01:01:06,440
Speaker 1: dealing with you know, they're dealing with a guy on

1193
01:01:06,480 --> 01:01:08,840
Speaker 1: an island who's sort of third fourth in terms of

1194
01:01:08,840 --> 01:01:12,240
Speaker 1: coverage hierarchy, and they're going to get the opportunities to

1195
01:01:12,280 --> 01:01:14,240
Speaker 1: make a ton of big plays. And we've seen Watkins

1196
01:01:14,280 --> 01:01:18,400
Speaker 1: in particular have games where he's been the beneficiary of

1197
01:01:18,400 --> 01:01:21,760
Speaker 1: a dozen targets because all the attention is going somewhere else.

1198
01:01:21,800 --> 01:01:24,480
Speaker 1: But Mikole Hardman has got some crazy numbers as well.

1199
01:01:24,480 --> 01:01:27,640
Speaker 1: When Mahomes targets him this season is pass rating is

1200
01:01:27,680 --> 01:01:30,120
Speaker 1: almost perfect. It's like one fifty two or something. So

1201
01:01:30,440 --> 01:01:32,240
Speaker 1: one of those guys I think is going to have

1202
01:01:32,240 --> 01:01:34,840
Speaker 1: a huge game. Speaking to the speed of the Chiefs

1203
01:01:34,840 --> 01:01:38,160
Speaker 1: wide receivers among other things, that has gotten the forty

1204
01:01:38,200 --> 01:01:40,240
Speaker 1: nine Ers and the Chiefs to the super Bowl with

1205
01:01:40,280 --> 01:01:42,800
Speaker 1: what they're good at is their unique facet of this

1206
01:01:42,920 --> 01:01:45,880
Speaker 1: game on either team that you think kind of stands

1207
01:01:45,920 --> 01:01:48,680
Speaker 1: out amongst other teams in the NFL. That is a

1208
01:01:48,720 --> 01:01:51,840
Speaker 1: reason why set team has gotten to the super Bowl

1209
01:01:51,880 --> 01:01:54,280
Speaker 1: and has had so much success this season that you're

1210
01:01:54,280 --> 01:01:56,720
Speaker 1: not seeing in a lot of NFL teams this year.

1211
01:01:58,240 --> 01:02:01,200
Speaker 1: I mean, I think both these teams on offense, they're

1212
01:02:01,240 --> 01:02:03,840
Speaker 1: doing all of the things that the data points and

1213
01:02:03,880 --> 01:02:06,880
Speaker 1: the analytics are suggesting are smart ways to run offense.

1214
01:02:06,920 --> 01:02:11,280
Speaker 1: So they both run a ton of PAP motion, they

1215
01:02:11,320 --> 01:02:13,160
Speaker 1: both run a ton of play action, they both do

1216
01:02:13,240 --> 01:02:16,120
Speaker 1: all of these things that the league is trending towards

1217
01:02:16,200 --> 01:02:18,680
Speaker 1: right now. And that the pre snap motion in particular,

1218
01:02:19,040 --> 01:02:21,920
Speaker 1: I think it's it's it's moved on from years past,

1219
01:02:22,040 --> 01:02:24,560
Speaker 1: where you know, teams used to use motion just to

1220
01:02:24,600 --> 01:02:27,040
Speaker 1: basically identify or get a read whether it was man

1221
01:02:27,120 --> 01:02:30,880
Speaker 1: or zone in terms of coverage. Now you're seeing teams

1222
01:02:31,320 --> 01:02:34,720
Speaker 1: use pre snap motion to manipulate defenses and move around

1223
01:02:34,760 --> 01:02:37,880
Speaker 1: individual players and kind of get them out of throwing

1224
01:02:37,960 --> 01:02:40,280
Speaker 1: landings that they want to use later in the play.

1225
01:02:40,520 --> 01:02:43,600
Speaker 1: And at forty nine ers in particular are excellent that

1226
01:02:43,600 --> 01:02:46,480
Speaker 1: that's why they're able to target the middle field so well.

1227
01:02:46,680 --> 01:02:48,480
Speaker 1: But the Chiefs are great at as well. You know,

1228
01:02:48,520 --> 01:02:51,080
Speaker 1: Andy Reid and Kyle Shanahan are two of the best

1229
01:02:51,120 --> 01:02:53,720
Speaker 1: offensive minds in the game, and it's it's great to

1230
01:02:53,760 --> 01:02:55,440
Speaker 1: see a super Bowl where they both go at it.

1231
01:02:55,800 --> 01:02:59,200
Speaker 1: Why is it that both these teams have maybe the

1232
01:02:59,240 --> 01:03:02,360
Speaker 1: best tight end and in their conference or certainly a

1233
01:03:02,360 --> 01:03:05,080
Speaker 1: couple of elite tight ends in this game? And is

1234
01:03:05,120 --> 01:03:07,960
Speaker 1: it a coincidence or is it something that other teams?

1235
01:03:08,200 --> 01:03:11,120
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously everybody wants some great players, but why

1236
01:03:11,160 --> 01:03:13,160
Speaker 1: is it specifically a tight end that makes it so

1237
01:03:13,200 --> 01:03:17,480
Speaker 1: difficult to defend these offenses? Yeah, it's interesting. I mean

1238
01:03:17,600 --> 01:03:19,880
Speaker 1: the forty nine ers. I think for a while, George

1239
01:03:19,960 --> 01:03:23,520
Speaker 1: Kittle was there, you know, by far their number one

1240
01:03:23,520 --> 01:03:26,880
Speaker 1: receiver and wasn't until they got Emmanuel Sanders that they

1241
01:03:26,920 --> 01:03:31,120
Speaker 1: even had top end wide receiver play at all. And

1242
01:03:31,200 --> 01:03:34,880
Speaker 1: the Chiefs, you know, the Travis Kelsey has been there,

1243
01:03:34,960 --> 01:03:38,680
Speaker 1: the primary, the primary guy that moves the chains. You know,

1244
01:03:38,720 --> 01:03:41,520
Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill is the deep threat, he's the big play guy,

1245
01:03:41,600 --> 01:03:44,880
Speaker 1: but Travis Kelsey is the one that makes it all function.

1246
01:03:45,040 --> 01:03:46,600
Speaker 1: And I think you're just seeing that if you get

1247
01:03:46,640 --> 01:03:49,160
Speaker 1: a guy who is truly at the top end of

1248
01:03:49,200 --> 01:03:52,400
Speaker 1: his crime aft, who can be an elite difference maker

1249
01:03:52,440 --> 01:03:55,400
Speaker 1: and a matchup problem, doesn't matter what position he plays,

1250
01:03:55,480 --> 01:03:59,480
Speaker 1: you know those it used to be only for wide receivers,

1251
01:03:59,480 --> 01:04:01,520
Speaker 1: but now you can get a tight end who can

1252
01:04:01,520 --> 01:04:04,000
Speaker 1: be your number one weapon on offense and you can

1253
01:04:04,320 --> 01:04:06,440
Speaker 1: have one of the best offenses in the NFL doing that.

1254
01:04:07,360 --> 01:04:09,680
Speaker 1: We are with Sam Munson. He is the lead analyst

1255
01:04:09,720 --> 01:04:12,840
Speaker 1: for PF. Speaking of these tight ends. George Kittle is

1256
01:04:12,880 --> 01:04:17,280
Speaker 1: the PF Dwight Stevenson Award for twenty nineteen. Explain what

1257
01:04:17,360 --> 01:04:20,600
Speaker 1: the Dwights Stevenson Award is and why Kittle ear in

1258
01:04:20,720 --> 01:04:26,200
Speaker 1: that honor. So MVP frustrates us at PFF. You know,

1259
01:04:26,200 --> 01:04:28,360
Speaker 1: it's kind of designed to just award the best player

1260
01:04:28,360 --> 01:04:30,360
Speaker 1: in the league. But in football, we tire ourselves and

1261
01:04:30,440 --> 01:04:33,880
Speaker 1: knots every single year trying to parse the value element

1262
01:04:33,920 --> 01:04:36,960
Speaker 1: of MVP, and it just it gets silly. It ends

1263
01:04:37,000 --> 01:04:40,919
Speaker 1: up being a quarterback award, and we get we get

1264
01:04:40,920 --> 01:04:43,160
Speaker 1: caught up in my new shit that doesn't really mean anything.

1265
01:04:43,440 --> 01:04:47,480
Speaker 1: So we decided to kind of create an NFL High Heisman,

1266
01:04:47,600 --> 01:04:51,240
Speaker 1: basically award the most outstanding player in the league, regardless

1267
01:04:51,280 --> 01:04:53,880
Speaker 1: of position, every single year, and we named it that

1268
01:04:54,400 --> 01:04:58,040
Speaker 1: for a great player in his own right, Dwight Stevenson. So,

1269
01:04:58,160 --> 01:05:01,080
Speaker 1: you know, George Kittle, effectively, he was the best player

1270
01:05:01,360 --> 01:05:03,600
Speaker 1: in the NFL regardless of position. It doesn't mean he

1271
01:05:03,680 --> 01:05:06,200
Speaker 1: was the most valuable where he made the most impact

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Speaker 1: of any player, but it means in the snaps he

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Speaker 1: had on the field, he was a phenomenal blocker, He

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01:05:11,720 --> 01:05:14,960
Speaker 1: was an incredible receiver, He was incredible after the catch.

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Speaker 1: You know, he made plays like in that Saints game

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01:05:17,800 --> 01:05:19,720
Speaker 1: but basically won then the game when they needed to.

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Speaker 1: He is the best player in the NFL this year.

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Speaker 1: You also have an award for the Comeback Player of

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Speaker 1: the Year. Now, I know it's some people equate this

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01:05:28,880 --> 01:05:34,080
Speaker 1: too injuries or overcoming a setback from the previous season.

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01:05:34,160 --> 01:05:37,360
Speaker 1: You've got Ryan Tannehill as a Pro football focused comeback

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Speaker 1: Player of the Year. To explain the facts surrounding that, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and I think Tannehill kind of dealt with all of

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01:05:43,040 --> 01:05:45,760
Speaker 1: that as well. He was injured, and he was in

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01:05:45,800 --> 01:05:48,080
Speaker 1: a bad situation in Miami, and you know, had some

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01:05:48,120 --> 01:05:50,400
Speaker 1: of the worst play of any quarterback in the NFL

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Speaker 1: back when he was there. And you know, he came

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Speaker 1: back from all that to be able to not just

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Speaker 1: return to his best play, but actually set you career

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01:05:59,320 --> 01:06:01,880
Speaker 1: marks in terms of what we thought he was capable of.

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01:06:02,200 --> 01:06:06,120
Speaker 1: Ryan Tannehill ended this season as the number one graded quarterback.

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Speaker 1: I pa that now he was playing on a much

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01:06:08,280 --> 01:06:10,160
Speaker 1: smaller sample size and some of these other guys and

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01:06:10,200 --> 01:06:13,560
Speaker 1: that probably would have regressed given enough time, and in

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01:06:13,560 --> 01:06:15,760
Speaker 1: fact did regress a bit in the playoffs. But for

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Speaker 1: him to bounce back from an injury riddle season in Miami,

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Speaker 1: plus the situation there that you know, got the coach

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01:06:21,680 --> 01:06:24,560
Speaker 1: fired and the lack of weapons, lack of protection for

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Speaker 1: him to come all the way back from that and

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Speaker 1: you know, end up performing better than he's ever done before.

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Speaker 1: I think makes him well a very deserving winner. And

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Speaker 1: then quarterback Russell Wilson was named PFF's twenty nineteen MVP.

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01:06:37,920 --> 01:06:41,480
Speaker 1: What made him stand out more than a quarterback like

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Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes or Lamar Jackson. Yes, so, as I said,

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Speaker 1: we don't really like the MVP award. We actually stopped

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Speaker 1: giving it out for a while, but we brought it

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Speaker 1: back when our data science guides, our analytics people created

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Speaker 1: a war metric, wins above replacement metric that actually tries

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01:06:58,640 --> 01:07:02,440
Speaker 1: to quantify value instead of just you know, getting torn,

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Speaker 1: getting caught up in the intangible aspect of it. So

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Speaker 1: when you look at wins above replacement, which essentially, you know,

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Speaker 1: pulls in all the PFF grading, pulls in all the

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Speaker 1: expected points at it, and starts to quantify how much

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Speaker 1: a quarterback was actually elevating everything around him. Russell Wilson

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01:07:19,640 --> 01:07:22,440
Speaker 1: was by far and away the most valuable quarterback in

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Speaker 1: the NFL. You know, Lamar Jackson Mahomes were right up

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01:07:25,480 --> 01:07:28,120
Speaker 1: there as well, and Mahomes in particular will be heading

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01:07:28,240 --> 01:07:31,360
Speaker 1: further in that direction the better he plays in the playoffs.

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01:07:31,960 --> 01:07:36,560
Speaker 1: But Wilson was, you know, overcoming a bad offensive line,

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Speaker 1: some questionable play calling, and just bad situations more consistently

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Speaker 1: than any other quarterback in the league. One of the

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Speaker 1: other things about football that and you alluded to it

1323
01:07:46,840 --> 01:07:50,440
Speaker 1: earlier when we're talking about the Dwight Stevenson Award, is

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Speaker 1: it's hard to compare a great guard with a great

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Speaker 1: tight end or a great defensive back. There are so

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Speaker 1: many players who do so much, so many completely different

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01:07:59,400 --> 01:08:02,000
Speaker 1: things on the feet, it's hard to quantify and give

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01:08:02,040 --> 01:08:06,040
Speaker 1: them equal value. I want to ask you, sometimes a

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01:08:06,120 --> 01:08:08,360
Speaker 1: guy seems like a great player and then his team

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01:08:08,400 --> 01:08:11,280
Speaker 1: goes away. You don't hear from him. Aaron Donald, You say,

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01:08:11,360 --> 01:08:14,240
Speaker 1: continue to have a stellar year as a pass rusher

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Speaker 1: this year, even though his team didn't elevate to the

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Speaker 1: playoffs and took a step back from the playoffs to

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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl last year, Aaron Donald, You guys gave

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Speaker 1: him the Pass Rusher of the Year award once again,

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01:08:24,760 --> 01:08:28,120
Speaker 1: or maybe not once again, but at least this year. No,

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01:08:28,320 --> 01:08:30,439
Speaker 1: it was once again. In fact, we've been giving that

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Speaker 1: award out for five years now and he's won it

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01:08:32,960 --> 01:08:35,920
Speaker 1: every single year. Aaron Donald is the best fast rusher

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01:08:35,960 --> 01:08:38,320
Speaker 1: in the NFL. I think you're right. Half of his

1341
01:08:38,400 --> 01:08:40,599
Speaker 1: problem this year is that the rams weren't as good

1342
01:08:40,880 --> 01:08:43,519
Speaker 1: and the attention kind of went away to the different teams.

1343
01:08:43,720 --> 01:08:45,880
Speaker 1: I think the other half of his problem is we're

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01:08:45,920 --> 01:08:47,760
Speaker 1: comparing him with what he did a year ago, where

1345
01:08:47,800 --> 01:08:50,960
Speaker 1: he was chasing the sack record, and I don't think

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01:08:51,000 --> 01:08:54,280
Speaker 1: people appreciate just how much of an outlier season his

1347
01:08:54,920 --> 01:08:59,200
Speaker 1: twenty eighteen was. That was maybe the greatest defensive season

1348
01:08:59,200 --> 01:09:01,360
Speaker 1: the game has ever seen, or one of the best.

1349
01:09:01,760 --> 01:09:05,519
Speaker 1: For an interior defender to be chasing the stack record

1350
01:09:05,680 --> 01:09:09,040
Speaker 1: is absolutely insane, and this season, you know he wasn't

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01:09:09,040 --> 01:09:11,080
Speaker 1: able to do that, but he was still able to generate,

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01:09:11,360 --> 01:09:14,040
Speaker 1: you know, as much pressure as anybody else, led all

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01:09:14,080 --> 01:09:17,240
Speaker 1: interior defenders in pressure by a lot. And the other

1354
01:09:17,280 --> 01:09:20,120
Speaker 1: thing is, you know, he was double teamed a ton

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01:09:20,240 --> 01:09:22,519
Speaker 1: this season, and when you start factoring in those and

1356
01:09:22,560 --> 01:09:25,000
Speaker 1: when you start factoring in plays where you know, he

1357
01:09:25,080 --> 01:09:28,280
Speaker 1: beat his blocker, but the ball was gone before he

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01:09:28,280 --> 01:09:31,280
Speaker 1: had a chance to make to generate pressure on the quarterback,

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01:09:31,439 --> 01:09:34,000
Speaker 1: when you start folding in all those other things, his

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01:09:34,160 --> 01:09:36,599
Speaker 1: PFF grade was still excellent. That was a little bit

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Speaker 1: worse than a year ago, but that's not what the

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Speaker 1: award is. It's comparing him to guys this season, and

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Speaker 1: I think if you compare them to everybody in the

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Speaker 1: league this season, he still stacks up extremely favorable. Sam,

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01:09:47,800 --> 01:09:50,080
Speaker 1: thanks for being on with us. We've really enjoyed picking

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01:09:50,120 --> 01:09:53,160
Speaker 1: your brain and hearing about how all these players got

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01:09:53,200 --> 01:09:56,080
Speaker 1: these awards, as well as kind of the intricacies of

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Speaker 1: the matchup coming up on Sunday between the forty nine

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Speaker 1: Ers and the Chiefs. That will surely be a good one.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure you're looking forward to it as well as

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Speaker 1: you guys are in Miami for the week. Lucky you.

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Speaker 1: Congratulations Sam. Nice need to get away as soon as

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Speaker 1: possible because I don't have any more and they don't

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Speaker 1: have any more arm strength. Let all right, Thanks Sam,

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Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Enjoy Miami. That's Sam Munson. He is

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Speaker 1: the lead analyst to four PF. He's also hosts one

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01:10:22,960 --> 01:10:25,760
Speaker 1: of the PFF shows. Pretty cool to talk to him.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of crazy to think about the grades that

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Speaker 1: go into some of the things that they rate throughout

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01:10:31,240 --> 01:10:34,040
Speaker 1: the season. I mean, you're always seeing on Twitter and

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01:10:34,080 --> 01:10:38,000
Speaker 1: on the internet several different lists coming out every single week.

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01:10:38,120 --> 01:10:40,960
Speaker 1: The analytics of Pro Football Focus does it. They're available

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01:10:41,000 --> 01:10:43,559
Speaker 1: to everybody. You can buy them and stuff, and NFL

1384
01:10:43,640 --> 01:10:47,639
Speaker 1: teams take advantage of them as well. They break down

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01:10:47,680 --> 01:10:49,280
Speaker 1: every film and just like he says, they don't care

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01:10:49,320 --> 01:10:50,760
Speaker 1: what the guy was asked. Did he do what he

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01:10:50,800 --> 01:10:52,120
Speaker 1: was supposed to do, and did he do it well?

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01:10:52,680 --> 01:10:54,880
Speaker 1: Regardless of the result of the play. It's not a

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01:10:54,880 --> 01:10:57,960
Speaker 1: plus minus because somebody else didn't score a touchdown. But

1390
01:10:58,000 --> 01:10:59,680
Speaker 1: if you over hear away from the ball and you're

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01:10:59,680 --> 01:11:01,639
Speaker 1: doing what you're supposed to be doing, you get graded

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01:11:01,640 --> 01:11:04,679
Speaker 1: plus or minus. You get graded. Uh. And they watch

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01:11:04,760 --> 01:11:07,160
Speaker 1: every player on every play in the National Football League.

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01:11:08,320 --> 01:11:10,800
Speaker 1: Had a long job. Yeah, it's it's a hard job.

1395
01:11:11,880 --> 01:11:14,200
Speaker 1: The teams take advantage of and it does glean information

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01:11:14,240 --> 01:11:17,680
Speaker 1: that even casual fans can find interesting. We hope our

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01:11:17,680 --> 01:11:20,200
Speaker 1: listeners did. Becoming more and more important in this game

1398
01:11:20,200 --> 01:11:22,680
Speaker 1: of football. Well, it all started. I was thinking, you know,

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01:11:22,960 --> 01:11:26,120
Speaker 1: analytics one oh one, it's you know, we all get analytics.

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01:11:26,240 --> 01:11:28,720
Speaker 1: It's here's the stat sheet, you know, here's he was.

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01:11:28,840 --> 01:11:32,920
Speaker 1: He was eight eight for twelve, you know, for ninety

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01:11:32,960 --> 01:11:35,559
Speaker 1: yards and a touchdown. A pick. Here's the that's the

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01:11:35,560 --> 01:11:39,240
Speaker 1: beginning of analytics, and then they go way beyond that, now,

1404
01:11:39,360 --> 01:11:42,680
Speaker 1: way beyond that. Yeah, it's amazing. Well, we are going

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01:11:42,760 --> 01:11:45,320
Speaker 1: to take a break, but when we come back, we're

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01:11:45,320 --> 01:11:47,880
Speaker 1: going to do some What's for Lunch? Still a lot

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01:11:47,920 --> 01:11:50,320
Speaker 1: of head in the show, so keep it locked on

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01:11:50,320 --> 01:11:52,760
Speaker 1: One Bills Live please we will see in a couple

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Speaker 1: of minutes. Welcome back into One Bill's Live. From One

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01:12:12,640 --> 01:12:17,080
Speaker 1: Bill's Drive Mattie Glab alongside Steve Tasker, my wonderful co

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Speaker 1: host for today. Murf is out, so us two hooligans

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01:12:22,160 --> 01:12:26,599
Speaker 1: are running the show today. Yeah, while Murph's away, we

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01:12:26,640 --> 01:12:30,640
Speaker 1: are hopefully he brings us back some cool things. I

1414
01:12:30,680 --> 01:12:33,400
Speaker 1: want to poo the shell necklace or a shark tooth necklace?

1415
01:12:34,040 --> 01:12:37,640
Speaker 1: Is we are so far off his radar right now.

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01:12:37,720 --> 01:12:41,280
Speaker 1: I'm sure maybe he's tuning in and laughing at us.

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01:12:41,600 --> 01:12:44,360
Speaker 1: He's yeah, he might be. I don't even think he's

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01:12:44,400 --> 01:12:48,799
Speaker 1: making the turn yet on the golf course. Yeah, hopefully

1419
01:12:48,840 --> 01:12:50,960
Speaker 1: he shoots pretty well this week. Yeah, we'll come back

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01:12:50,960 --> 01:12:53,559
Speaker 1: in a great mood then. Yeah. Right, Well it's one thirty,

1421
01:12:53,640 --> 01:12:57,720
Speaker 1: so that means it's time for What's for Lunch? All right,

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01:13:01,600 --> 01:13:05,240
Speaker 1: what's for lunch? Something from column A, one from column B.

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01:13:06,240 --> 01:13:08,200
Speaker 1: We'll give you a couple of choices. You pick what

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01:13:08,240 --> 01:13:11,200
Speaker 1: you would like most for lunch, what appeals to you

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01:13:11,280 --> 01:13:13,760
Speaker 1: most on the menu, and uh, Matt, I'll just leave

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01:13:13,760 --> 01:13:15,559
Speaker 1: it to you. You can you can call them and started.

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01:13:16,080 --> 01:13:17,720
Speaker 1: I wish we were talking about all food right now

1428
01:13:17,720 --> 01:13:22,160
Speaker 1: because I'm so hungry. But better Pro Bowl location Los

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Speaker 1: Angeles or loss Vegas? I will say Vegas. I've never

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Speaker 1: been to Vegas. I'm one of the few five right right,

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01:13:31,360 --> 01:13:33,920
Speaker 1: never been to Vegas. Not that I wouldn't want to go,

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01:13:33,960 --> 01:13:36,519
Speaker 1: I just never have. I've been to LA, and I

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Speaker 1: think it's got to be better than LA. Um Vegas

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Speaker 1: is a fan, Is that what you're saying? Right? I

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01:13:42,720 --> 01:13:45,519
Speaker 1: had a Super Bowl out in LA. We barely got

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Speaker 1: beat I think fifty five seventeen, but uh it was.

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Speaker 1: It's too LA is too big, It's got traffic. You'd

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Speaker 1: have to find your way around and find out where

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01:13:56,920 --> 01:13:59,360
Speaker 1: the venues are of different events or whatever you want

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Speaker 1: to be at the Pro Bowl. Certainly, the new LA,

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01:14:02,200 --> 01:14:04,320
Speaker 1: the new a LA Stadium would make it a little

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01:14:04,320 --> 01:14:05,880
Speaker 1: more centralized. But if you're gonna go to the beach.

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01:14:05,880 --> 01:14:07,600
Speaker 1: You gotta go to the beach. You're not gonna you know,

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01:14:08,439 --> 01:14:10,599
Speaker 1: LA is just big and the traffic is a crusher.

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01:14:11,680 --> 01:14:14,200
Speaker 1: Vegas is set up for having big things come into town.

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01:14:14,400 --> 01:14:22,040
Speaker 1: It's all hotels, almost everything's more convenient, shows, gambling, golf, whatever.

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01:14:22,680 --> 01:14:25,519
Speaker 1: I think. I think Vegas is set up for better

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01:14:25,520 --> 01:14:27,920
Speaker 1: than Vegas. I would I would say Vegas too, for

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01:14:28,000 --> 01:14:31,560
Speaker 1: that reason. It's all compacting together, easy to get around,

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01:14:31,360 --> 01:14:34,080
Speaker 1: but do in Los Angeless Vegas. It's Vegas more of

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01:14:34,080 --> 01:14:36,120
Speaker 1: a family friendly place because I can also kind of

1452
01:14:36,120 --> 01:14:38,160
Speaker 1: think about Pro Bowl, like all these players are taking

1453
01:14:38,200 --> 01:14:42,360
Speaker 1: their families and their kids. LA better for that reason

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01:14:42,479 --> 01:14:44,720
Speaker 1: there and stuff. Yeah, LA may be better for that.

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01:14:44,760 --> 01:14:47,559
Speaker 1: There's and certainly I'm saying there's a wider range of

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01:14:47,600 --> 01:14:49,880
Speaker 1: things to take part in. And I don't know. We've

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01:14:49,880 --> 01:14:51,960
Speaker 1: never been to you, and I've never been to Vegas. Guessing,

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01:14:52,160 --> 01:14:54,240
Speaker 1: but I think LA. We're doing the show from Vegas

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01:14:54,320 --> 01:14:57,719
Speaker 1: next week. Just Disney. They got Disneyland, they got the beach,

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01:14:57,800 --> 01:15:00,360
Speaker 1: they got golf, they've got the movie theater in the

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Speaker 1: movie industry out there, They've got whatever LA I mean.

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01:15:04,040 --> 01:15:06,240
Speaker 1: And then you've got Vegas, which is gambling and the

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01:15:06,280 --> 01:15:10,160
Speaker 1: shows and stuff that surround back gambling, and they got

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01:15:10,160 --> 01:15:12,519
Speaker 1: the Golden Knights. I guess, you know, so there's sports

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01:15:12,520 --> 01:15:14,679
Speaker 1: there too, So I don't know. I would just say

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01:15:15,000 --> 01:15:17,320
Speaker 1: Vegas will be easier just because of the traffic if

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01:15:17,360 --> 01:15:19,920
Speaker 1: nothing else. Yeah, I mean, we'll see how Vegas looks

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01:15:19,920 --> 01:15:22,600
Speaker 1: for the draft. Yeah, it'll be interesting to see that.

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01:15:22,760 --> 01:15:24,960
Speaker 1: You won't see it, but we'll watch. We'll be watching

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01:15:24,960 --> 01:15:27,720
Speaker 1: on TV. It was really cool to see Vegas. Both

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Speaker 1: of us say Vegas better supporting cast Jimmy G or

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Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes. I say Jimmy G because their defense is

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01:15:38,439 --> 01:15:40,919
Speaker 1: much better and much more dependable than the Chiefs defense,

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01:15:41,200 --> 01:15:44,400
Speaker 1: and their running game is much better as well. So

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01:15:44,479 --> 01:15:46,439
Speaker 1: I think Pat Mahomes kind of makes it all fly

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01:15:46,600 --> 01:15:50,519
Speaker 1: there in Kansas City. The defense is supplementary to the

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01:15:50,800 --> 01:15:54,200
Speaker 1: what the offenses does, and the offense completely hinges on

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01:15:54,840 --> 01:15:56,880
Speaker 1: Pat Mahomes. I think Jimmy G. I mean, he only

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01:15:56,880 --> 01:15:59,760
Speaker 1: need to throw eight times in the NFC Championship, give

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01:15:59,800 --> 01:16:01,800
Speaker 1: me the pain. So I'm gonna say a supporting cast

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01:16:01,840 --> 01:16:04,080
Speaker 1: really hailed him, helped him through that. Yeah, I say,

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01:16:04,160 --> 01:16:06,000
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say Jimmy G. I think when you look

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01:16:06,000 --> 01:16:08,559
Speaker 1: at those two teams. I completely agree. When you look

1484
01:16:08,600 --> 01:16:11,439
Speaker 1: at those two teams. For the Chiefs, you pick Patrick

1485
01:16:11,520 --> 01:16:14,439
Speaker 1: Mahons and then you put things around Patrick Mahomes to

1486
01:16:14,520 --> 01:16:18,559
Speaker 1: make him have success, which he's very successful on his own. Anyways,

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01:16:18,560 --> 01:16:20,880
Speaker 1: He's a very smart quarterback. He can do a lot

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01:16:21,120 --> 01:16:24,240
Speaker 1: with less Jimmy G. I think you pick his supporting

1489
01:16:24,240 --> 01:16:26,559
Speaker 1: cast first, and then you put Jimmy G in place

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01:16:26,560 --> 01:16:28,760
Speaker 1: and say this is going to be our quarterback. That

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01:16:28,920 --> 01:16:31,800
Speaker 1: defense has been built over the last few years, and

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01:16:32,120 --> 01:16:34,120
Speaker 1: the team would definitely not be where they're at right

1493
01:16:34,120 --> 01:16:37,000
Speaker 1: now without that defense. And you've got the run game,

1494
01:16:37,120 --> 01:16:40,840
Speaker 1: You've got the pass game with Kittle, you have a

1495
01:16:40,880 --> 01:16:44,439
Speaker 1: couple other receivers Manuel Sanders that you can go to.

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01:16:45,200 --> 01:16:48,360
Speaker 1: So I think Jimmy Garoppolo has the better supporting cast,

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01:16:48,960 --> 01:16:56,080
Speaker 1: bigger impact in the Super Bowl. Travis Kelsey or George Kittle. Wow,

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01:16:57,120 --> 01:17:00,960
Speaker 1: tough call. It's I might be a coin flip. I

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01:17:01,000 --> 01:17:05,880
Speaker 1: think you give Kettle Kittle some benefit because he's gonna

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01:17:05,880 --> 01:17:07,400
Speaker 1: be on the field and helping in the run game,

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01:17:07,400 --> 01:17:09,240
Speaker 1: and his impact may not be that he's standing in

1502
01:17:09,280 --> 01:17:10,640
Speaker 1: the end zone with a ball in his hand. He

1503
01:17:10,680 --> 01:17:12,720
Speaker 1: may be laying in the end zone on top of

1504
01:17:12,760 --> 01:17:16,400
Speaker 1: a defender who the running back just ran over, just

1505
01:17:16,479 --> 01:17:20,040
Speaker 1: ran past, because Kittle made the block so impact I think.

1506
01:17:20,400 --> 01:17:25,040
Speaker 1: I think Kittle is better in the running game. He's

1507
01:17:25,080 --> 01:17:28,559
Speaker 1: every bit as good, or maybe not quite as good

1508
01:17:28,560 --> 01:17:30,519
Speaker 1: as in the passing game. But he's very good in

1509
01:17:30,560 --> 01:17:32,280
Speaker 1: the passing game. He's still an elite tight end. He's

1510
01:17:32,320 --> 01:17:36,360
Speaker 1: still runs really hard after the catch. So I would

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01:17:36,400 --> 01:17:39,000
Speaker 1: say Kittle because of the running game and the fact

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01:17:39,000 --> 01:17:41,880
Speaker 1: that the Niners are probably gonna need their running game

1513
01:17:41,920 --> 01:17:44,960
Speaker 1: more than the Chiefs will. I'm gonna say Travis Kelsey

1514
01:17:44,960 --> 01:17:47,160
Speaker 1: on this. I think Kittle has a huge impact in

1515
01:17:47,200 --> 01:17:51,280
Speaker 1: the run game, but I think Kelsey comes into play

1516
01:17:51,320 --> 01:17:55,680
Speaker 1: more when it comes to catching passes. And well, they

1517
01:17:55,720 --> 01:17:58,880
Speaker 1: both have five touchdowns, so they both have five touchdowns each.

1518
01:17:59,000 --> 01:18:02,759
Speaker 1: But Kelsey definitely has more receiving yards almost two hundred

1519
01:18:02,800 --> 01:18:06,040
Speaker 1: more receiving yards than Kittle his yards per catch or

1520
01:18:06,040 --> 01:18:09,559
Speaker 1: a little bit more, has more targets, more catches. I

1521
01:18:09,600 --> 01:18:12,439
Speaker 1: think they're going to use Kelsey Moore when it comes

1522
01:18:12,479 --> 01:18:16,320
Speaker 1: into this game plan just because of what Patrick Mahomes has.

1523
01:18:18,200 --> 01:18:21,640
Speaker 1: Weapons wise, I think Kelsey is one of his biggest weapons,

1524
01:18:22,120 --> 01:18:24,040
Speaker 1: and I think They're definitely gonna want to use him

1525
01:18:24,080 --> 01:18:27,560
Speaker 1: as a mismatch in this game. So I'm saying, Kelsey,

1526
01:18:27,760 --> 01:18:30,960
Speaker 1: better player to bring back for the forty nine Ers

1527
01:18:31,520 --> 01:18:36,880
Speaker 1: Dion Sanders or Jerry Rice. For me, there's no question

1528
01:18:36,920 --> 01:18:40,880
Speaker 1: it's Dion Sanders for the forty nine Ers. You would

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01:18:40,960 --> 01:18:43,160
Speaker 1: love him in this game. He could cover somebody up,

1530
01:18:43,800 --> 01:18:46,400
Speaker 1: he could cover something, He could cover tyreek Hill up. Maybe.

1531
01:18:46,840 --> 01:18:49,320
Speaker 1: I don't know if Tyreech's very fast, but Dion was

1532
01:18:49,400 --> 01:18:52,960
Speaker 1: very fast, really fast, and Dion was a skilled corner.

1533
01:18:53,000 --> 01:18:55,200
Speaker 1: I mean, Dion could make a big difference in this

1534
01:18:55,200 --> 01:18:57,200
Speaker 1: game if he was playing for the forty nine Ers,

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01:18:57,320 --> 01:19:00,160
Speaker 1: rather more so than Jerry Rice would have. I think. Up,

1536
01:19:00,280 --> 01:19:04,920
Speaker 1: I'm saying Deon Sanderson Sanders was, Jerry Rice was too,

1537
01:19:04,920 --> 01:19:09,320
Speaker 1: but I think Dion was a huge difference maker. Better

1538
01:19:09,360 --> 01:19:12,559
Speaker 1: play to bring back for the Chiefs Derek Thomas or

1539
01:19:12,640 --> 01:19:20,559
Speaker 1: Tony Gonzalez. You want to bring back already got a

1540
01:19:20,600 --> 01:19:26,320
Speaker 1: great tight end Derek Gonzalez, and Tony Gonzalez was phenomenal

1541
01:19:26,760 --> 01:19:36,479
Speaker 1: and Derek was phenomenal too. Um I would say I'd

1542
01:19:36,520 --> 01:19:40,600
Speaker 1: say Derek Thomas. Okay, and this for this game. For

1543
01:19:40,720 --> 01:19:43,000
Speaker 1: this game, you've already got your tight end. I'd say

1544
01:19:43,000 --> 01:19:45,360
Speaker 1: Derek Thomas, Tony Gonzalez, that's a hard guy to not

1545
01:19:45,640 --> 01:19:49,759
Speaker 1: bring back. I'd say Derek Thomas, same, Derek Thomas. Uh.

1546
01:19:50,000 --> 01:19:54,880
Speaker 1: Would you rather have Joe Burrow or three first round picks?

1547
01:19:55,280 --> 01:19:58,760
Speaker 1: I'd rather have the three first round picks. Why, you're

1548
01:19:58,840 --> 01:20:01,800
Speaker 1: gonna get some real at least one, probably two, maybe

1549
01:20:01,800 --> 01:20:05,840
Speaker 1: even three really difference making players, and Joe Burrow You're

1550
01:20:05,840 --> 01:20:09,240
Speaker 1: getting a first round quarterback who statistically is a coin

1551
01:20:09,240 --> 01:20:10,960
Speaker 1: flip whether he's going to be really good or really

1552
01:20:11,000 --> 01:20:15,160
Speaker 1: bad or somewhere in the middle. So I would say

1553
01:20:15,200 --> 01:20:17,160
Speaker 1: take the three guys and take three swings at it

1554
01:20:17,240 --> 01:20:18,960
Speaker 1: rather than just one. If you get three, you might

1555
01:20:19,000 --> 01:20:22,519
Speaker 1: get You might get Joe Montana or Tom Brady or

1556
01:20:23,040 --> 01:20:25,160
Speaker 1: you know, Ben Roethlisberg or somebody else in the first

1557
01:20:25,200 --> 01:20:28,200
Speaker 1: round you don't need and make Joe Burrow look you expendable.

1558
01:20:28,240 --> 01:20:30,519
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna say take the first three first round picks.

1559
01:20:30,600 --> 01:20:33,559
Speaker 1: Dolphins have three first rounders. I would rather have three

1560
01:20:33,600 --> 01:20:35,720
Speaker 1: first rounders as well. I think you can build a

1561
01:20:35,720 --> 01:20:38,480
Speaker 1: lot of a team with three first round picks, especially

1562
01:20:38,760 --> 01:20:40,920
Speaker 1: if a couple of those turn out to be some

1563
01:20:41,000 --> 01:20:44,800
Speaker 1: solid players at Joe Burrow again, you never know. I mean,

1564
01:20:44,840 --> 01:20:48,679
Speaker 1: he was awesome at LSU this past season. But it'll

1565
01:20:48,680 --> 01:20:51,920
Speaker 1: be interesting to see how he does in the NFL. Right,

1566
01:20:52,200 --> 01:20:55,360
Speaker 1: I think will be successful. But how successful? And what

1567
01:20:55,520 --> 01:21:01,720
Speaker 1: team better run game? Chiefs or forty Niners? Niners by four.

1568
01:21:01,800 --> 01:21:05,160
Speaker 1: I think Chiefs only run the ball because they feel

1569
01:21:05,200 --> 01:21:07,880
Speaker 1: like it's they have to, Andy Reid is said. And

1570
01:21:07,920 --> 01:21:12,880
Speaker 1: I said this to Sam monson, lead analysts for Pro

1571
01:21:12,960 --> 01:21:15,080
Speaker 1: Football Focus. He was on last segment. I said, listen,

1572
01:21:15,120 --> 01:21:17,200
Speaker 1: Andy Reid said, way back in the time when he

1573
01:21:17,240 --> 01:21:19,360
Speaker 1: was a head coach of the Philadelphia Eagles. He goes,

1574
01:21:19,360 --> 01:21:21,960
Speaker 1: I wish I could throw it every single play, So

1575
01:21:22,160 --> 01:21:28,120
Speaker 1: the Chiefs handed off only when it's absolutely absolutely necessary

1576
01:21:28,200 --> 01:21:30,320
Speaker 1: or when they don't want to do anything else. Yeah,

1577
01:21:30,320 --> 01:21:33,040
Speaker 1: So I think and for that, and the Niners are

1578
01:21:33,080 --> 01:21:35,160
Speaker 1: committed to their running game two or fifty yards in

1579
01:21:35,200 --> 01:21:38,200
Speaker 1: the championship game. They have the ability and the desire

1580
01:21:38,240 --> 01:21:39,760
Speaker 1: to do whatever it takes to win, and the running

1581
01:21:39,800 --> 01:21:41,160
Speaker 1: games a big part of it. So I'm gonna say

1582
01:21:41,160 --> 01:21:43,920
Speaker 1: the Niners are much better equipped to run the football.

1583
01:21:44,160 --> 01:21:47,040
Speaker 1: I agree, Niners. You got that three headed monster. You

1584
01:21:47,160 --> 01:21:50,400
Speaker 1: got most seven hundred and seventy two rushing yards. Tevin

1585
01:21:50,439 --> 01:21:53,280
Speaker 1: Coleman five hundred and forty four rushing yards, Matt Breta

1586
01:21:53,320 --> 01:21:56,360
Speaker 1: six hundred and twenty three rushing yards. Two of those

1587
01:21:56,439 --> 01:21:59,760
Speaker 1: are averaging more than five yards per attempt, which is

1588
01:22:00,040 --> 01:22:02,639
Speaker 1: credible when it comes to rushing yards. Most is five

1589
01:22:02,640 --> 01:22:05,080
Speaker 1: point six yards per attempt. Matt Breta five point one

1590
01:22:05,160 --> 01:22:08,599
Speaker 1: yards per attempt. That is very difficult to do. Eight

1591
01:22:08,640 --> 01:22:11,960
Speaker 1: touchdowns on a most six out of Coleman. I mean

1592
01:22:12,520 --> 01:22:15,439
Speaker 1: they lean on their run game. That's how they their

1593
01:22:15,479 --> 01:22:20,640
Speaker 1: offense runs. That's where it goes through. Definitely, Definitely the

1594
01:22:20,880 --> 01:22:24,320
Speaker 1: forty nine ers and our last one better coaching staff

1595
01:22:24,600 --> 01:22:30,720
Speaker 1: the Chiefs or the forty Niners. Wow, because you think

1596
01:22:31,200 --> 01:22:33,280
Speaker 1: there's some hot name, and we talked about the coaching

1597
01:22:33,320 --> 01:22:36,840
Speaker 1: trees of both both head coaches. Steve Spagnolo has really

1598
01:22:36,880 --> 01:22:39,200
Speaker 1: upgraded their defensive staff of the Chiefs, but you know,

1599
01:22:39,280 --> 01:22:44,760
Speaker 1: Robert Sala has been phenomenal as the Niners. Kyle Shanahan

1600
01:22:45,040 --> 01:22:47,559
Speaker 1: is his own kind of offensive coordinator. Andy Reid has

1601
01:22:47,560 --> 01:22:49,960
Speaker 1: done that, but Eric bi Enemy has really gotten kudos

1602
01:22:49,960 --> 01:22:55,599
Speaker 1: for what he's done. It's tough. Yeah, I can't pick one.

1603
01:22:55,680 --> 01:22:57,559
Speaker 1: I think they're both really good staffs, and I think

1604
01:22:57,560 --> 01:23:01,280
Speaker 1: they're both clicking really well too. I think part of

1605
01:23:01,280 --> 01:23:03,759
Speaker 1: a staff working together is one of the main reasons

1606
01:23:03,760 --> 01:23:05,280
Speaker 1: they can get to a Super Bowl and getting the

1607
01:23:05,360 --> 01:23:07,360
Speaker 1: most out of their players. So all of both these

1608
01:23:07,400 --> 01:23:11,960
Speaker 1: staffs are doing almost everything exactly right. And I don't

1609
01:23:12,000 --> 01:23:16,360
Speaker 1: know that you could even be make it have an

1610
01:23:16,360 --> 01:23:19,439
Speaker 1: opinion about these two staffs unless you were actually in

1611
01:23:19,479 --> 01:23:21,959
Speaker 1: the room, wi't listening to a meet and watching them interact.

1612
01:23:22,000 --> 01:23:24,800
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think they're both great. I couldn't pick.

1613
01:23:24,880 --> 01:23:29,000
Speaker 1: I'm kind of pulling for Randy Reid because of his history, yeah,

1614
01:23:29,080 --> 01:23:30,880
Speaker 1: and his successes he's had in the past. I want

1615
01:23:30,880 --> 01:23:32,760
Speaker 1: to see him get a Super Bowl. Yeah, and I

1616
01:23:32,920 --> 01:23:35,400
Speaker 1: and when I've spoken to him on the rare occasions,

1617
01:23:35,400 --> 01:23:39,439
Speaker 1: and I've really enjoyed We've had some really great conversations

1618
01:23:39,439 --> 01:23:41,000
Speaker 1: and had a few laughs together. So I'm kind of

1619
01:23:41,000 --> 01:23:44,680
Speaker 1: pulling for him personally. But that does I mean, I

1620
01:23:44,680 --> 01:23:47,360
Speaker 1: don't like Kyle Shanahan either, but yeah, so for that,

1621
01:23:47,400 --> 01:23:49,479
Speaker 1: I'll just say the Chiefs. But gosh, I don't know.

1622
01:23:49,880 --> 01:23:52,240
Speaker 1: That's a hard one. You have an opinion. I think

1623
01:23:52,280 --> 01:23:54,280
Speaker 1: I don't know. I love defense I'm such a like

1624
01:23:54,479 --> 01:23:57,000
Speaker 1: any anytime I'm talking about sports, I'm like, oh, I

1625
01:23:57,040 --> 01:24:01,160
Speaker 1: love defense, whether it's basketball, football, baseball. I'm just defense person.

1626
01:24:02,640 --> 01:24:05,200
Speaker 1: So I love the forty nine ers defense. But to

1627
01:24:05,200 --> 01:24:08,360
Speaker 1: see what the Chiefs have been able to do this

1628
01:24:08,400 --> 01:24:10,800
Speaker 1: season and how they've been able to kind of reset

1629
01:24:10,840 --> 01:24:14,040
Speaker 1: that defense and posts a lot of incredible stats the

1630
01:24:14,120 --> 01:24:17,600
Speaker 1: last half of the season with Spagnol, I think I

1631
01:24:17,600 --> 01:24:20,960
Speaker 1: would say the Chiefs. Also, the offense that they run

1632
01:24:21,080 --> 01:24:25,920
Speaker 1: is just so successful and it's not a lot of

1633
01:24:25,920 --> 01:24:27,639
Speaker 1: teams in the NFL could do what the Chiefs are

1634
01:24:27,680 --> 01:24:31,360
Speaker 1: doing from offensive defense. And last year it was the

1635
01:24:31,439 --> 01:24:34,200
Speaker 1: Chiefs defense. They didn't have anything. They weren't that was

1636
01:24:34,240 --> 01:24:36,880
Speaker 1: their weakness. And to see what they've done this season

1637
01:24:37,320 --> 01:24:39,679
Speaker 1: and to make it a strength in a lot of ways,

1638
01:24:39,880 --> 01:24:43,639
Speaker 1: I think has been pretty incredible. So that's a hard question.

1639
01:24:43,880 --> 01:24:48,479
Speaker 1: Stay the Chiefs, Yeah, but very very tough, very tough.

1640
01:24:48,600 --> 01:24:52,400
Speaker 1: So that is what's for lunch, ladies and gentlemen. I

1641
01:24:52,479 --> 01:24:55,759
Speaker 1: hope you feel full off of all of the wonderful

1642
01:24:55,800 --> 01:25:00,360
Speaker 1: ans Vegas for the Pro Bowl. Jimmy gar Polo has

1643
01:25:00,400 --> 01:25:03,240
Speaker 1: got a better supporting cast. We both switched. You took

1644
01:25:03,280 --> 01:25:05,679
Speaker 1: Kelsey and I took Kittle the tight ends. We both

1645
01:25:05,680 --> 01:25:10,040
Speaker 1: said Dion Sanders Derek Thomas was the guy for the

1646
01:25:10,160 --> 01:25:12,240
Speaker 1: for the Chiefs to bring back. And we both rather

1647
01:25:12,280 --> 01:25:15,400
Speaker 1: have the three first round picks for than rather than

1648
01:25:15,479 --> 01:25:17,960
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow. And we both think the Niners have a

1649
01:25:18,000 --> 01:25:20,479
Speaker 1: better running game. And we've never been to Las Vegas.

1650
01:25:20,560 --> 01:25:23,880
Speaker 1: We've never been. Learned a lot two people in the

1651
01:25:23,920 --> 01:25:26,920
Speaker 1: Western hemisphere have never been to Vegas. There. Maybe one

1652
01:25:26,960 --> 01:25:30,040
Speaker 1: day we'll go. Anyways, we're gonna take a quick break, go,

1653
01:25:30,439 --> 01:25:49,000
Speaker 1: don't go anywhere. We will be back shortly. Welcome back

1654
01:25:49,000 --> 01:25:51,519
Speaker 1: into One Bill's Live. From One Bill's Drive, Maddie glab

1655
01:25:51,640 --> 01:25:54,880
Speaker 1: here was Steve Tasker filling in for Murph uh. Some

1656
01:25:55,040 --> 01:25:58,280
Speaker 1: things ahead on the schedule when it comes to the

1657
01:25:58,439 --> 01:26:02,280
Speaker 1: NFL this week. The CB is going to meet on Thursday,

1658
01:26:02,680 --> 01:26:05,280
Speaker 1: and one thing they're going to discuss with the NFL

1659
01:26:05,320 --> 01:26:10,960
Speaker 1: Players Association has to do with a seventeen game schedule. Potentially.

1660
01:26:12,000 --> 01:26:15,639
Speaker 1: This obviously is a hard sell to players because when

1661
01:26:15,640 --> 01:26:18,360
Speaker 1: you think about another game, especially another game in the

1662
01:26:18,439 --> 01:26:22,280
Speaker 1: regular season, you think about some of the potential injuries.

1663
01:26:22,840 --> 01:26:26,760
Speaker 1: Health and safety definitely comes into that conversation. Steve do

1664
01:26:26,800 --> 01:26:29,559
Speaker 1: you have an opinion on seventeen game regular I do.

1665
01:26:29,680 --> 01:26:34,000
Speaker 1: Here's what you're looking at when you take when you

1666
01:26:34,080 --> 01:26:40,960
Speaker 1: take this the significance of it and what it'll mean,

1667
01:26:41,040 --> 01:26:43,720
Speaker 1: it's like a five percent uptick in the amount of

1668
01:26:43,960 --> 01:26:49,479
Speaker 1: games that'll be played. Five plus the NFL Players Association leader,

1669
01:26:49,520 --> 01:26:51,240
Speaker 1: So all the player reps from the round the league,

1670
01:26:51,240 --> 01:26:54,639
Speaker 1: we're going to get together and it'll be Thursday morning.

1671
01:26:54,840 --> 01:26:56,640
Speaker 1: Everybody's down in Miami, so they're all going to get

1672
01:26:56,680 --> 01:27:00,280
Speaker 1: together in South Florida. Eric Winston, who's the president of

1673
01:27:00,320 --> 01:27:05,559
Speaker 1: the nfl PA negotiating crew, they're going to get them,

1674
01:27:05,560 --> 01:27:08,280
Speaker 1: get them together, and they've obviously come up with something

1675
01:27:08,320 --> 01:27:10,880
Speaker 1: they feel it's time to talk about. They've been talking

1676
01:27:10,920 --> 01:27:13,280
Speaker 1: for a long time and it's been just the Executive

1677
01:27:13,280 --> 01:27:17,720
Speaker 1: Committee of the NFLPA, who have the association leaders, have

1678
01:27:17,920 --> 01:27:20,600
Speaker 1: you know, been in the negotiation tables or at the

1679
01:27:20,640 --> 01:27:23,920
Speaker 1: dinner table or whoever they were talking with the NFL people,

1680
01:27:24,680 --> 01:27:26,799
Speaker 1: and they've gotten to a point where they said, okay,

1681
01:27:27,160 --> 01:27:32,360
Speaker 1: let's take this to the n to the team representatives

1682
01:27:32,880 --> 01:27:35,719
Speaker 1: and we'll see what they say. That the thirty two reps,

1683
01:27:35,920 --> 01:27:40,120
Speaker 1: one for each club. Now it takes it takes two

1684
01:27:40,280 --> 01:27:42,600
Speaker 1: thirds of those players, So it'll take twenty two of

1685
01:27:42,600 --> 01:27:46,439
Speaker 1: those guys to say yes to this before they can

1686
01:27:46,479 --> 01:27:50,040
Speaker 1: take it. And all nineteen hundred plus members of the

1687
01:27:50,160 --> 01:27:54,720
Speaker 1: NFL's Players Association Active Players Association will vote on it.

1688
01:27:54,760 --> 01:27:57,320
Speaker 1: But they're in South Florida. It's there, and it is

1689
01:27:57,400 --> 01:28:00,599
Speaker 1: it's you know, there's a couple of central issues. It's

1690
01:28:00,640 --> 01:28:03,280
Speaker 1: the revenue split. Of course, the players are there, they

1691
01:28:03,320 --> 01:28:05,519
Speaker 1: should get an uptick. They had a forty seven percent

1692
01:28:06,640 --> 01:28:09,639
Speaker 1: guaranteed cut by this cbavil on the revenue the shared

1693
01:28:09,680 --> 01:28:12,960
Speaker 1: revenues of the NFL UH and then of course the

1694
01:28:13,040 --> 01:28:17,280
Speaker 1: salary cap also the minimum spending. So not only is

1695
01:28:17,320 --> 01:28:21,240
Speaker 1: there a salary cap, there's also a salary floor, so

1696
01:28:21,280 --> 01:28:24,639
Speaker 1: the player the clubs have to spend a certain amount. So,

1697
01:28:25,160 --> 01:28:28,679
Speaker 1: you know, teams that are perceived to be tanking still

1698
01:28:28,720 --> 01:28:30,519
Speaker 1: have to pay their players. They can't go out and

1699
01:28:30,560 --> 01:28:35,000
Speaker 1: just hire Joe blow off the off the street. There's

1700
01:28:35,040 --> 01:28:39,040
Speaker 1: also always some stuff legacy fund, increased pension for old

1701
01:28:39,080 --> 01:28:46,080
Speaker 1: guys who played in the distant past. There's uh stuff

1702
01:28:46,120 --> 01:28:51,760
Speaker 1: about a requirement for rule as to escrow requirements. It

1703
01:28:51,840 --> 01:28:57,800
Speaker 1: removes the escrow requirements for guaranteed contracts, rules on first

1704
01:28:58,040 --> 01:29:02,479
Speaker 1: rounds picks and restricted free agents. UH, the nfl A

1705
01:29:02,560 --> 01:29:05,080
Speaker 1: proposed liability waiver, all the stuff that was with the

1706
01:29:05,200 --> 01:29:09,280
Speaker 1: Colin Kaepernick controversy when he had his um we had

1707
01:29:09,320 --> 01:29:11,120
Speaker 1: his workout and it didn't go the way they thought

1708
01:29:11,120 --> 01:29:13,559
Speaker 1: it was going to go to. UH, there's a ton

1709
01:29:14,520 --> 01:29:20,400
Speaker 1: a ton of importance being placed on the seventeen game schedule.

1710
01:29:20,720 --> 01:29:22,800
Speaker 1: There's two things to me that the whole thing Lynch

1711
01:29:22,840 --> 01:29:24,880
Speaker 1: pins on for me, and it's just the big issues.

1712
01:29:25,080 --> 01:29:27,320
Speaker 1: It's the boulders that go into the big jar before

1713
01:29:27,320 --> 01:29:29,479
Speaker 1: they put in the pebbles and sand around it and

1714
01:29:29,680 --> 01:29:33,760
Speaker 1: bury it is. One is the seventeen game schedule, and

1715
01:29:33,840 --> 01:29:37,800
Speaker 1: two is the revenue split. That's those are the big

1716
01:29:37,840 --> 01:29:39,880
Speaker 1: boulders of of what's going to happen. If they can

1717
01:29:39,920 --> 01:29:42,519
Speaker 1: get those right, all the other stuff, the first round

1718
01:29:42,560 --> 01:29:45,960
Speaker 1: draft picks and the and the the waiver claims and

1719
01:29:46,000 --> 01:29:47,599
Speaker 1: the you know, the kind of the mousia of how

1720
01:29:47,600 --> 01:29:49,320
Speaker 1: the league is going to operate will kind of get

1721
01:29:49,360 --> 01:29:51,400
Speaker 1: taken care of pretty quickly. The big, the big things

1722
01:29:51,400 --> 01:29:54,679
Speaker 1: are that the schedule and the and the revenue split.

1723
01:29:54,840 --> 01:29:57,000
Speaker 1: Do you think two thirds of these players will vote

1724
01:29:57,200 --> 01:30:01,519
Speaker 1: in favor for seventeen game schedule to depends. It depends

1725
01:30:01,560 --> 01:30:04,639
Speaker 1: on what the numbers are and what the projections are.

1726
01:30:04,720 --> 01:30:08,320
Speaker 1: So they'll say, listen, if we do this, it means

1727
01:30:08,479 --> 01:30:11,360
Speaker 1: it's already the salary cap is already going up twelve

1728
01:30:11,400 --> 01:30:14,280
Speaker 1: million a year, and you put this on top of it,

1729
01:30:15,080 --> 01:30:18,040
Speaker 1: it could go up as much as fifteen percent a year,

1730
01:30:18,280 --> 01:30:20,639
Speaker 1: you know, over fifteen million dollars a year or whatever.

1731
01:30:20,720 --> 01:30:23,519
Speaker 1: It should mean this much more per player per year.

1732
01:30:24,040 --> 01:30:26,720
Speaker 1: They'll be able to put that through there and give

1733
01:30:26,720 --> 01:30:31,840
Speaker 1: them given the projections on that. Plus if they get

1734
01:30:31,880 --> 01:30:35,040
Speaker 1: a bigger split of the revenue, that's what that'll mean too.

1735
01:30:35,120 --> 01:30:37,680
Speaker 1: It'll mean a big boost as well. And so what

1736
01:30:37,720 --> 01:30:43,080
Speaker 1: it means practically speaking is larger and larger and larger

1737
01:30:43,080 --> 01:30:45,559
Speaker 1: percentages of guys who are actually on an NFL roster

1738
01:30:46,080 --> 01:30:48,840
Speaker 1: will make enough money like change their lives for good,

1739
01:30:49,240 --> 01:30:51,479
Speaker 1: not just for the time that they're playing in the league.

1740
01:30:52,800 --> 01:30:56,400
Speaker 1: And it will also give them more margin of error

1741
01:30:56,560 --> 01:31:01,640
Speaker 1: or fringe money to throw at old guy, or medical benefits,

1742
01:31:01,720 --> 01:31:07,880
Speaker 1: medical research, healthcare pensions, all of that stuff where once

1743
01:31:07,880 --> 01:31:11,479
Speaker 1: they're out, they'll still rebnefits from being in the National

1744
01:31:11,479 --> 01:31:13,519
Speaker 1: Football League, not just the money that they made while

1745
01:31:13,560 --> 01:31:15,920
Speaker 1: they were there. It's pretty interesting to hear about all

1746
01:31:15,960 --> 01:31:19,240
Speaker 1: that and what comes with an extra game. And I

1747
01:31:19,280 --> 01:31:21,400
Speaker 1: know there's been talk, of course, with an extra game

1748
01:31:21,680 --> 01:31:24,240
Speaker 1: preseason being cut down a little bit as well. Yeah,

1749
01:31:24,280 --> 01:31:26,040
Speaker 1: and I think that comes down to it. Two free

1750
01:31:26,040 --> 01:31:28,040
Speaker 1: time in the off seasons, a premium for these guys.

1751
01:31:28,240 --> 01:31:30,360
Speaker 1: That'll mean something for their quality of life away from

1752
01:31:30,360 --> 01:31:34,800
Speaker 1: the game and the preseason. Most guys don't play in

1753
01:31:34,800 --> 01:31:38,240
Speaker 1: the preseason anyway, so that's not surprising. That's probably not

1754
01:31:38,360 --> 01:31:40,080
Speaker 1: high on the player's list because they don't play anyway.

1755
01:31:40,080 --> 01:31:44,600
Speaker 1: They really good ones, but if they could, you know,

1756
01:31:44,640 --> 01:31:47,200
Speaker 1: so making it more meaningful, Okay, that's one thing. But

1757
01:31:47,320 --> 01:31:49,759
Speaker 1: they start making more money, and they make more money

1758
01:31:49,800 --> 01:31:52,160
Speaker 1: faster during the regular season. They'll get their game checks

1759
01:31:52,160 --> 01:31:55,840
Speaker 1: a week earlier, seventeen weeks instead of sixteen weeks. Who knows,

1760
01:31:56,080 --> 01:31:57,640
Speaker 1: we'll see. And I don't even know that they're going

1761
01:31:57,680 --> 01:32:00,400
Speaker 1: to put this up for vote as say, listen, we

1762
01:32:00,400 --> 01:32:02,519
Speaker 1: should take this or go back and say this is

1763
01:32:02,560 --> 01:32:05,360
Speaker 1: more important than that to us. So this may not

1764
01:32:05,400 --> 01:32:07,000
Speaker 1: even get to the point where the thirty two player

1765
01:32:07,000 --> 01:32:10,280
Speaker 1: reps will vote. They probably will vote a little on

1766
01:32:10,360 --> 01:32:12,800
Speaker 1: something or other or some aspects of this, but it's

1767
01:32:12,840 --> 01:32:15,040
Speaker 1: nowhere near getting to the rank and file of the

1768
01:32:15,120 --> 01:32:18,120
Speaker 1: nineteen hundred guys who actually play. Yeah, it's nowhere near.

1769
01:32:18,400 --> 01:32:23,400
Speaker 1: This is happening next season either, So interesting conversations. See

1770
01:32:23,479 --> 01:32:27,040
Speaker 1: it happened Thursday, be interesting to We'll get worried it's over. Yep.

1771
01:32:27,240 --> 01:32:28,920
Speaker 1: And it makes sense they're all doing it down at

1772
01:32:28,920 --> 01:32:31,120
Speaker 1: the super Bowl in Miami because that's where everybody is

1773
01:32:31,160 --> 01:32:34,080
Speaker 1: this week. So I'm sure more news will come out

1774
01:32:34,080 --> 01:32:38,040
Speaker 1: of that after Thursday's meeting, whether it's the schedule, whether

1775
01:32:38,040 --> 01:32:41,720
Speaker 1: it's revenue, things like that. Quick break for us when

1776
01:32:41,720 --> 01:32:45,080
Speaker 1: we come back, we are going to play, would you rather?

1777
01:32:46,000 --> 01:32:49,120
Speaker 1: Steve is going to be our guest. I will be facilitating.

1778
01:32:49,280 --> 01:32:51,120
Speaker 1: You don't want to miss this is going to be

1779
01:32:51,200 --> 01:33:05,759
Speaker 1: pretty great. All right, look forward to it. Sidio Network

1780
01:33:06,240 --> 01:33:10,439
Speaker 1: sorts talking. It's time for the sports update from One

1781
01:33:10,520 --> 01:33:13,200
Speaker 1: Bill's Drive. The Browns announced today that they have named

1782
01:33:13,280 --> 01:33:16,839
Speaker 1: Andrew Barry as the team's executive vice president of Football

1783
01:33:16,840 --> 01:33:20,439
Speaker 1: Operations and general Manager. Barry is a former Brown's vice

1784
01:33:20,479 --> 01:33:23,360
Speaker 1: president of player Personnel who spent the twenty nineteenth season

1785
01:33:23,560 --> 01:33:26,719
Speaker 1: with the Eagles as a VP of Football Operations Barrier

1786
01:33:26,760 --> 01:33:29,519
Speaker 1: will be introduced at a press conference on February fitth.

1787
01:33:29,840 --> 01:33:33,360
Speaker 1: A Florida judge free to NFL free agent Antonio Brown

1788
01:33:33,400 --> 01:33:36,280
Speaker 1: from house arrest this morning, allowing him to travel freely

1789
01:33:36,320 --> 01:33:38,760
Speaker 1: as he awaits trial on charges that he attacked the

1790
01:33:38,840 --> 01:33:41,439
Speaker 1: driver of a moving truck. The judge agreed to let

1791
01:33:41,439 --> 01:33:43,880
Speaker 1: Brown travel freely within the United States so he can

1792
01:33:43,920 --> 01:33:48,479
Speaker 1: fulfill contractual obligations. So instead of wearing an ankle GPS monitor,

1793
01:33:48,520 --> 01:33:51,240
Speaker 1: Brown will have to check in with court personnel daily.

1794
01:33:51,600 --> 01:33:54,400
Speaker 1: The Sabers are hosting the Ottawa Senators tonight for seven

1795
01:33:54,439 --> 01:33:57,400
Speaker 1: o'clock face off. Sabers Game Night on MSG begins at

1796
01:33:57,479 --> 01:34:00,200
Speaker 1: six thirty with Brian Duff and Marty Buron. You can

1797
01:34:00,200 --> 01:34:03,800
Speaker 1: catch pregame coverage on WGR five to fifty beginning at

1798
01:34:03,800 --> 01:34:06,439
Speaker 1: six with Mike Chope and the Bulldog. Rob Ray will

1799
01:34:06,520 --> 01:34:09,360
Speaker 1: join them live at four o'clock during their show. It

1800
01:34:09,439 --> 01:34:12,160
Speaker 1: was reported that NHL legend and Hockey Hall of Famer

1801
01:34:12,280 --> 01:34:16,040
Speaker 1: Ed Belfour was arrested this morning in Bowling, Kentucky, on

1802
01:34:16,120 --> 01:34:20,439
Speaker 1: mischief and intoxication charges. Belfa reportedly had been drinking on

1803
01:34:20,479 --> 01:34:23,120
Speaker 1: the first floor of the Kentucky Grand hotel in Spa,

1804
01:34:23,200 --> 01:34:26,759
Speaker 1: before attempting a fight with a hotel employee and striking

1805
01:34:26,760 --> 01:34:28,920
Speaker 1: a window and anger. He was found on the second

1806
01:34:28,920 --> 01:34:32,439
Speaker 1: floor when officers arrived. Belfer spent eighteen seasons in the

1807
01:34:32,560 --> 01:34:37,480
Speaker 1: NHL with Blackhawks, Shark, Stars, Maple Leafs and the Panthers.

1808
01:34:38,520 --> 01:34:41,679
Speaker 1: The Penguins have agreed to terms with defenseman Marcus Peterson

1809
01:34:41,960 --> 01:34:45,120
Speaker 1: on a five year, twenty million dollar contract extension. The

1810
01:34:45,200 --> 01:34:47,320
Speaker 1: deal will kick in at the beginning of the twenty

1811
01:34:47,400 --> 01:34:50,040
Speaker 1: twenty season and run through the twenty twenty four season,

1812
01:34:50,320 --> 01:34:53,879
Speaker 1: carrying an average annual value of four million dollars. Peterson

1813
01:34:53,920 --> 01:34:57,200
Speaker 1: has fifteen points in fifty games this season. That's your

1814
01:34:57,240 --> 01:35:03,599
Speaker 1: sports update from one Bill's Drive. And now it's time

1815
01:35:04,040 --> 01:35:09,080
Speaker 1: to play a game. You're really good at these games

1816
01:35:09,120 --> 01:35:11,599
Speaker 1: that I come up with. Steve is very great when

1817
01:35:11,640 --> 01:35:14,320
Speaker 1: we play guests the stat he knows all the stats.

1818
01:35:14,920 --> 01:35:17,400
Speaker 1: But this one it's a little bit different, especially when

1819
01:35:17,439 --> 01:35:19,800
Speaker 1: I provide the stats. It's more it's more of, yeah,

1820
01:35:19,800 --> 01:35:22,200
Speaker 1: this is true, especially when you know the stats beforehand.

1821
01:35:22,240 --> 01:35:25,400
Speaker 1: A cheater just kidding. We're gonna play, would you rather?

1822
01:35:25,760 --> 01:35:29,680
Speaker 1: So it's not necessarily your smarts as to what you know.

1823
01:35:29,760 --> 01:35:32,599
Speaker 1: Stat wise. But I'm going to give you two players,

1824
01:35:32,760 --> 01:35:36,559
Speaker 1: player X, player Y for the same position, and based

1825
01:35:36,600 --> 01:35:39,080
Speaker 1: off the stats that I show you, you are going

1826
01:35:39,120 --> 01:35:42,120
Speaker 1: to pick what player you would rather have, and then

1827
01:35:42,320 --> 01:35:46,320
Speaker 1: we will reveal set player. So I don't know this,

1828
01:35:46,600 --> 01:35:49,400
Speaker 1: unlike our stat game win. I did know some of

1829
01:35:49,400 --> 01:35:52,240
Speaker 1: the stuff there, Yeah, only because I'd studied, not because

1830
01:35:52,240 --> 01:35:55,040
Speaker 1: I'd cheated this. I don't know who these players are.

1831
01:35:55,040 --> 01:35:57,040
Speaker 1: You're giving me these stats. Are these two different players

1832
01:35:57,080 --> 01:35:59,040
Speaker 1: who are real guys. You're saying, it's a real guys,

1833
01:35:59,160 --> 01:36:02,040
Speaker 1: real guys, real stat Some are NFL wide, some are

1834
01:36:02,160 --> 01:36:05,000
Speaker 1: Super Bowl And I'll let you know which one and

1835
01:36:05,040 --> 01:36:08,320
Speaker 1: we're gonna find out which ones which by their stat line.

1836
01:36:08,320 --> 01:36:11,200
Speaker 1: Which one would you rather have? WHI simple enough until

1837
01:36:11,200 --> 01:36:13,120
Speaker 1: you start saying the stats are a little different in

1838
01:36:13,160 --> 01:36:15,519
Speaker 1: subtle ways, and then you reveal who the player is,

1839
01:36:15,560 --> 01:36:18,760
Speaker 1: and I'll be like, oh do I want that guy?

1840
01:36:18,800 --> 01:36:20,639
Speaker 1: All right? Here we go, Here we go. We're gonna

1841
01:36:20,680 --> 01:36:26,040
Speaker 1: go with quarterback first, would you rather have? All Right,

1842
01:36:26,200 --> 01:36:30,439
Speaker 1: this guy is two hundred and one two d and six,

1843
01:36:31,200 --> 01:36:36,439
Speaker 1: so that's yep, seventy point three percent of his passes

1844
01:36:36,439 --> 01:36:39,479
Speaker 1: he's completed. So if you are watching on TV. You

1845
01:36:39,560 --> 01:36:43,080
Speaker 1: have the graphic right here. For two thousand and seven

1846
01:36:43,200 --> 01:36:47,120
Speaker 1: hundred and forty two passing yards, he averages nine point

1847
01:36:47,240 --> 01:36:52,000
Speaker 1: six yards per pass attempt. He averages two hundred and

1848
01:36:52,000 --> 01:36:54,240
Speaker 1: twenty eight and a half passing yards per game to

1849
01:36:54,400 --> 01:36:59,559
Speaker 1: onenty two touchdowns, six interceptions. Player B, he completes sixty

1850
01:36:59,760 --> 01:37:03,000
Speaker 1: point eight percent of his passes three seventy three of

1851
01:37:03,400 --> 01:37:07,960
Speaker 1: six thirteen to be exact. For four thousand and fifty

1852
01:37:08,120 --> 01:37:11,839
Speaker 1: seven yards. He has six point six passing yards pertempt,

1853
01:37:11,840 --> 01:37:14,400
Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty three point six passing yards a game,

1854
01:37:14,439 --> 01:37:17,680
Speaker 1: twenty one touchdowns, eight interceptions. So when you look at

1855
01:37:17,680 --> 01:37:22,000
Speaker 1: the passing yards very different. Player A has two thousand,

1856
01:37:22,040 --> 01:37:25,880
Speaker 1: seven hundred forty two player B four thousand and fifty seven.

1857
01:37:25,920 --> 01:37:28,519
Speaker 1: But when you look at the completion percentage, player A

1858
01:37:28,840 --> 01:37:31,920
Speaker 1: higher than player B. Player ACE completing seventy percent of

1859
01:37:31,920 --> 01:37:35,040
Speaker 1: his passes for twenty seven hundred yards. Player B is

1860
01:37:35,160 --> 01:37:39,240
Speaker 1: sixty percent of his passes for four thousand yards. Player

1861
01:37:39,280 --> 01:37:43,160
Speaker 1: a's got a nine point six pass per yards attempt

1862
01:37:43,560 --> 01:37:45,679
Speaker 1: and the second guy sixty percent for four thousand yards.

1863
01:37:45,680 --> 01:37:47,800
Speaker 1: A go to six point six percent. Wow, this is hard.

1864
01:37:48,520 --> 01:37:54,080
Speaker 1: I'd say touchdowns are similar twenty two to seventy percent

1865
01:37:54,120 --> 01:37:56,720
Speaker 1: completion percentage, even though he only got twenty seven hundred yards,

1866
01:37:56,720 --> 01:37:58,800
Speaker 1: He's got nine point six pertemp two hundred and twenty

1867
01:37:58,840 --> 01:38:01,679
Speaker 1: eight yards a game compared to two fifty three same

1868
01:38:01,720 --> 01:38:05,000
Speaker 1: touchdown twenty two. Yeah, I'll take player a seventy percent

1869
01:38:05,040 --> 01:38:07,760
Speaker 1: completion rate twenty seven hundred yards, nine point six per

1870
01:38:07,760 --> 01:38:12,559
Speaker 1: pass attempt, two hundred and twenty eight yards per game. Hey, yeah,

1871
01:38:12,640 --> 01:38:15,560
Speaker 1: who who are they? Show me the money? Who do

1872
01:38:15,600 --> 01:38:18,519
Speaker 1: you have this? Who is it? Oh? I took Ryan

1873
01:38:18,560 --> 01:38:23,120
Speaker 1: Tannehill Tom Brady. I'm so I stink. How do you

1874
01:38:23,160 --> 01:38:25,920
Speaker 1: feel about that decision? Steve will stick to my stomach now,

1875
01:38:26,479 --> 01:38:29,920
Speaker 1: general manager? And I've got Ryan Tannehills to Tom Brady. Yeah,

1876
01:38:29,920 --> 01:38:32,519
Speaker 1: I get it. Tom Brady had four thousand yards passing

1877
01:38:32,560 --> 01:38:34,759
Speaker 1: this year, only completed to sixty percent of his passes

1878
01:38:35,439 --> 01:38:38,440
Speaker 1: two hundred fifty three yards a game. Uh, and Tannehill

1879
01:38:38,560 --> 01:38:40,519
Speaker 1: had that great run. I should have really, I should

1880
01:38:40,520 --> 01:38:43,320
Speaker 1: have seen this common you know, one played in more

1881
01:38:43,360 --> 01:38:46,160
Speaker 1: games than the other. Yeah, you took right, I took

1882
01:38:46,200 --> 01:38:48,800
Speaker 1: Ryan Tannehill. Took Ryan Tannehill over Tom Brady. Let it

1883
01:38:48,800 --> 01:38:51,920
Speaker 1: be known to the world. Steve Tasker, Ryan Tannehill over

1884
01:38:52,000 --> 01:38:55,559
Speaker 1: Tom Brady. It's okay, we can move one. The gist

1885
01:38:55,560 --> 01:38:57,840
Speaker 1: of this game, it's it's more of a of a

1886
01:38:57,880 --> 01:39:01,760
Speaker 1: com'm I'm combating embar right now. Okay, all right, So

1887
01:39:01,880 --> 01:39:05,040
Speaker 1: I got Bryan Tannehill could be great next year. We

1888
01:39:05,080 --> 01:39:08,839
Speaker 1: had a sample size of him this season. Seasons passed

1889
01:39:09,160 --> 01:39:12,439
Speaker 1: and not the best. But he could have his best

1890
01:39:12,479 --> 01:39:14,120
Speaker 1: football ahead of him. All Right, all right, all right,

1891
01:39:14,280 --> 01:39:16,840
Speaker 1: got all right, all right, got on the quarterback. Let's

1892
01:39:16,880 --> 01:39:22,439
Speaker 1: move on to some tight ends. Would you rather have?

1893
01:39:22,640 --> 01:39:25,920
Speaker 1: These are Super Bowl tightens? These are Super Bowl tight ends,

1894
01:39:25,960 --> 01:39:29,160
Speaker 1: which pretty much absolutely gives it away. But you don't

1895
01:39:29,160 --> 01:39:31,559
Speaker 1: know which one is which unless you have really studied

1896
01:39:31,600 --> 01:39:35,120
Speaker 1: these two tight ends. Stat lines, so player A ninety

1897
01:39:35,160 --> 01:39:39,439
Speaker 1: seven receptions on one hundred and thirty six targets, more

1898
01:39:39,479 --> 01:39:43,240
Speaker 1: than twelve hundred receiving yards, twelve point seven yards per catch,

1899
01:39:43,960 --> 01:39:46,880
Speaker 1: thirteen big plays, so these are plays of twenty or

1900
01:39:46,920 --> 01:39:50,120
Speaker 1: more yards and five touchdowns. Player B. These are very

1901
01:39:50,160 --> 01:39:53,840
Speaker 1: similar stat lines. Player B eighty five catches on one

1902
01:39:53,880 --> 01:39:57,719
Speaker 1: hundred and seven targets, one thousand and fifty three receiving yards,

1903
01:39:57,760 --> 01:40:01,400
Speaker 1: twelve point four yards per catch. Sixteen big plays and

1904
01:40:01,520 --> 01:40:07,360
Speaker 1: five touchdowns. So do you want more catches on targets? There?

1905
01:40:07,360 --> 01:40:11,479
Speaker 1: When you factor into how many catches they've had off targets,

1906
01:40:11,560 --> 01:40:15,320
Speaker 1: their percentages are probably very similar. One has about two

1907
01:40:15,400 --> 01:40:19,080
Speaker 1: hundred receiving yards than the other. One has three more

1908
01:40:19,120 --> 01:40:22,240
Speaker 1: big plays than the other, thirteen big plays to sixteen

1909
01:40:22,280 --> 01:40:26,160
Speaker 1: big plays. They both have five touchdowns. Now, what we

1910
01:40:26,240 --> 01:40:30,679
Speaker 1: don't have is the blocking stats here. Yeah, I'm gonna

1911
01:40:30,720 --> 01:40:35,760
Speaker 1: say Steve is doing math right now, I'm doing the math.

1912
01:40:36,600 --> 01:40:40,840
Speaker 1: We're getting into this, man, I'll take the guy with

1913
01:40:40,920 --> 01:40:44,040
Speaker 1: the with the lesser state. He had more big plays,

1914
01:40:44,280 --> 01:40:47,879
Speaker 1: and he had a very a much higher target catches

1915
01:40:47,920 --> 01:40:50,559
Speaker 1: per target ratio. So I'm gonna take the eighty five

1916
01:40:50,600 --> 01:40:53,719
Speaker 1: receptions on one hundred and seven for less receiving yards

1917
01:40:53,760 --> 01:40:56,120
Speaker 1: for one thousand for about for about just under two

1918
01:40:56,200 --> 01:41:00,519
Speaker 1: hundred yards less receiving yards, just about the same yards

1919
01:41:00,520 --> 01:41:03,639
Speaker 1: per reception, three more big plays in the same number

1920
01:41:03,640 --> 01:41:07,320
Speaker 1: of touchdowns. So I'm taking player B. Show me who

1921
01:41:07,360 --> 01:41:10,400
Speaker 1: it is eighty five receptions to ninety seven receptions. Yeah,

1922
01:41:10,400 --> 01:41:13,840
Speaker 1: I took George Kittle. Yeah, words Kittle, You okay with

1923
01:41:13,880 --> 01:41:15,439
Speaker 1: that decision. I'm okay with I'll take any one of

1924
01:41:15,439 --> 01:41:17,720
Speaker 1: those guys. Yeah, I like. And the only reason I

1925
01:41:18,000 --> 01:41:19,800
Speaker 1: say that because when you throw on the the ball, he

1926
01:41:19,840 --> 01:41:23,599
Speaker 1: catches it. Travis Kelsey had one hundred and thirty six

1927
01:41:23,640 --> 01:41:26,280
Speaker 1: targets and missed forty of them. Thirty nine of them

1928
01:41:26,400 --> 01:41:28,160
Speaker 1: he had in the last two games. He had two

1929
01:41:28,240 --> 01:41:30,479
Speaker 1: drops that I was like, Holy Moley, how are you

1930
01:41:30,560 --> 01:41:33,840
Speaker 1: dropping that ball like that? Is incredible? You're Travis Kelsey.

1931
01:41:33,880 --> 01:41:36,559
Speaker 1: You should not be dropping balls that are thrown right

1932
01:41:36,600 --> 01:41:38,720
Speaker 1: in the middle of your hands. There you go. So

1933
01:41:39,240 --> 01:41:41,880
Speaker 1: I'm taking Kittle and I will take the boost in

1934
01:41:41,960 --> 01:41:45,160
Speaker 1: run production as well. Okay, and you have Tobout blocking yep.

1935
01:41:45,439 --> 01:41:50,280
Speaker 1: I took Kittle, so I'm keeping track of it. Let's

1936
01:41:50,320 --> 01:41:54,760
Speaker 1: move on to a wide receivers. Would you rather have?

1937
01:41:54,920 --> 01:41:57,960
Speaker 1: Now this is league wide, not Super Bowl wide. Uh,

1938
01:41:58,160 --> 01:42:02,960
Speaker 1: let's see you Player A fifty two receptions off eighty

1939
01:42:02,960 --> 01:42:07,639
Speaker 1: four targets, a thousand and fifty one receiving yards, twenty

1940
01:42:07,680 --> 01:42:11,479
Speaker 1: point two yards per catch. That's big, fifteen big plays,

1941
01:42:11,600 --> 01:42:14,559
Speaker 1: eight touchdowns. Or would you rather have Player B? He

1942
01:42:14,600 --> 01:42:18,599
Speaker 1: has seventy two receptions hire off one hundred and twenty

1943
01:42:18,600 --> 01:42:22,080
Speaker 1: eight targets forty four He's got reception on forty four

1944
01:42:22,120 --> 01:42:25,320
Speaker 1: extra targets, twelve hundred receiving yards and fifty more yards

1945
01:42:25,320 --> 01:42:28,280
Speaker 1: and receive sixteen point seven yards per catch, not as

1946
01:42:28,360 --> 01:42:31,880
Speaker 1: much as Player A. Twenty one big plays, one big

1947
01:42:31,920 --> 01:42:34,720
Speaker 1: play every three, and you have nine touchdowns, so one

1948
01:42:34,760 --> 01:42:37,240
Speaker 1: more touchdown than this guy. I still I'm gonna go again.

1949
01:42:37,280 --> 01:42:39,880
Speaker 1: I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna lean towards the analytics

1950
01:42:39,880 --> 01:42:42,599
Speaker 1: and go to the fifty two receptions on eighty four targets,

1951
01:42:44,120 --> 01:42:46,200
Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty yards less receiving one thousand and

1952
01:42:46,240 --> 01:42:49,120
Speaker 1: fifty one is compared to twelve hundred. But the big play,

1953
01:42:49,160 --> 01:42:52,000
Speaker 1: the twenty point two yards per reception, that's huge, and

1954
01:42:52,280 --> 01:42:55,000
Speaker 1: fifteen big plays and eight touchdown I'll take player A.

1955
01:42:55,240 --> 01:42:58,480
Speaker 1: You'll take player A rather than the seventy two receptions

1956
01:42:58,479 --> 01:43:01,400
Speaker 1: on one hundred twenty eight targets. Lar show us who

1957
01:43:01,520 --> 01:43:06,920
Speaker 1: player A is. Please? That is I took AJ Brown

1958
01:43:07,160 --> 01:43:12,400
Speaker 1: J Brown Parker. All right, Ay, I'm good with that. Yeah, yeah,

1959
01:43:12,680 --> 01:43:15,320
Speaker 1: I like I like the high percentage of catches that

1960
01:43:15,320 --> 01:43:19,800
Speaker 1: he has got, great production, big playability, eight touchdowns versus

1961
01:43:19,840 --> 01:43:24,160
Speaker 1: Davante Parker's nine. Yeah, I'm totally Okay with that, all right?

1962
01:43:24,400 --> 01:43:27,080
Speaker 1: I like that pick a J Brown over DeVante Parker

1963
01:43:27,240 --> 01:43:31,920
Speaker 1: some some stats is great, man. You want to be

1964
01:43:32,000 --> 01:43:34,880
Speaker 1: able to catch the ball more, Yeah, or at least

1965
01:43:34,920 --> 01:43:38,599
Speaker 1: whenever it's thrown to you. Less drops? Yeah, less drops?

1966
01:43:39,600 --> 01:43:43,439
Speaker 1: Shall we move on to our running backs? Okay? Go ahead?

1967
01:43:44,560 --> 01:43:47,960
Speaker 1: Would you rather have? This is running backs? This is

1968
01:43:48,120 --> 01:43:54,280
Speaker 1: league wide as well for running backs. Running back A

1969
01:43:54,360 --> 01:43:58,400
Speaker 1: two hundred and twenty three rushes for eight hundred and

1970
01:43:58,439 --> 01:44:03,760
Speaker 1: fifty seven yards three point eight yards per rush of

1971
01:44:03,920 --> 01:44:07,639
Speaker 1: the best twelve touchdowns though, right, fifty seven point one

1972
01:44:07,760 --> 01:44:10,639
Speaker 1: rushing yards game is what this player is averaging. Where

1973
01:44:10,640 --> 01:44:12,639
Speaker 1: would you rather have player B? He has two hundred

1974
01:44:12,680 --> 01:44:15,559
Speaker 1: and seventeen rushes for one thousand and three yards four

1975
01:44:15,600 --> 01:44:20,120
Speaker 1: point six yards per rush. Let's get more ground six touchdowns.

1976
01:44:20,240 --> 01:44:24,200
Speaker 1: This player averages seventy seven point two rushing yards per game.

1977
01:44:24,280 --> 01:44:27,519
Speaker 1: So the difference is this, Well, the guy player B

1978
01:44:27,760 --> 01:44:31,480
Speaker 1: has better stats except for the touchdowns player, But touchdowns,

1979
01:44:31,479 --> 01:44:33,120
Speaker 1: I mean for running back it's just like when an't

1980
01:44:33,160 --> 01:44:35,160
Speaker 1: they going to hand you the ball down frods? Right? Yeah,

1981
01:44:35,200 --> 01:44:38,240
Speaker 1: I'll take player B to seventeen for a thousand and

1982
01:44:38,320 --> 01:44:41,519
Speaker 1: three yards four point six a rush is a really

1983
01:44:41,520 --> 01:44:44,320
Speaker 1: good number. You got six touchdowns averaging seventy seven yards

1984
01:44:44,360 --> 01:44:46,680
Speaker 1: a game. I'll take I'll take player B. Take player B.

1985
01:44:47,040 --> 01:44:50,519
Speaker 1: Yeah he's more. Yeah, all right, player B over player A.

1986
01:44:50,960 --> 01:44:57,760
Speaker 1: Who is player B? Player B is? Say Quon Barkley,

1987
01:44:57,880 --> 01:45:02,800
Speaker 1: Say Quon Barkley over Todd Gurley. Yeah I can get Yeah, well, yeah,

1988
01:45:02,880 --> 01:45:05,840
Speaker 1: say Quan. He was gonna he didn't have the great year,

1989
01:45:05,960 --> 01:45:08,720
Speaker 1: but you know, yeah he had a pretty good year.

1990
01:45:08,920 --> 01:45:13,759
Speaker 1: Todd Gurley more touchdowns, but definitely yet less rushing yards

1991
01:45:13,800 --> 01:45:16,040
Speaker 1: per game. Yeah, because touchdowns are a function that like

1992
01:45:16,040 --> 01:45:17,320
Speaker 1: your team, you get down there, if you get a

1993
01:45:17,360 --> 01:45:19,439
Speaker 1: lot of gold ghost situations and your team wants to

1994
01:45:19,479 --> 01:45:22,160
Speaker 1: hand you the ball, they do um and you know

1995
01:45:22,280 --> 01:45:23,880
Speaker 1: they could also take you out and hand it to

1996
01:45:23,920 --> 01:45:28,639
Speaker 1: somebody else. So that's kind of Quon Barkley is. It's

1997
01:45:28,760 --> 01:45:31,519
Speaker 1: really good. That was Yeah. I'm glad Barkley is a

1998
01:45:31,520 --> 01:45:34,599
Speaker 1: great running So I missed everybody I didn't. I'm pretty

1999
01:45:34,600 --> 01:45:37,479
Speaker 1: good except for the quarterback. The quarterback one. It was

2000
01:45:37,600 --> 01:45:40,400
Speaker 1: it was the first one. It's okay, we're setting you

2001
01:45:40,479 --> 01:45:43,120
Speaker 1: up through this. You had to get one out of

2002
01:45:43,120 --> 01:45:45,760
Speaker 1: the way, all right, Should we move to defense. All right,

2003
01:45:45,800 --> 01:45:48,599
Speaker 1: go ahead. So we're gonna do some defensive linemen and

2004
01:45:48,680 --> 01:45:53,200
Speaker 1: this is going to be a Super Bowl centric between

2005
01:45:53,240 --> 01:45:59,320
Speaker 1: the two. So defensive lineman, would you rather have Player A,

2006
01:45:59,560 --> 01:46:03,920
Speaker 1: who is thirty six tackles, nine sacks, ten tackles for loss,

2007
01:46:05,120 --> 01:46:10,160
Speaker 1: four passes defense, one forced fumble, one fumble recovery, or

2008
01:46:10,360 --> 01:46:14,080
Speaker 1: would you rather have Player B? He has forty seven tackles.

2009
01:46:14,160 --> 01:46:16,600
Speaker 1: He also has nine sacks. He has more tackles for

2010
01:46:16,640 --> 01:46:21,080
Speaker 1: a loss with seventeen two passes defense, one forced fumble,

2011
01:46:21,160 --> 01:46:26,160
Speaker 1: but two fumble recoveries. Gotta be similar. Stack got more tackles,

2012
01:46:26,160 --> 01:46:29,240
Speaker 1: the same amount of sacks, seven more tackles for loss

2013
01:46:29,600 --> 01:46:33,479
Speaker 1: he only has. He's got two is compared to four

2014
01:46:33,560 --> 01:46:36,040
Speaker 1: passes defense, but everything else he's got better. I'm gonna

2015
01:46:36,040 --> 01:46:39,040
Speaker 1: take player B. So tackles for loss is definitely more

2016
01:46:39,080 --> 01:46:41,799
Speaker 1: important than passes defense in your mind, I think so, okay,

2017
01:46:41,960 --> 01:46:48,040
Speaker 1: I do think? So two fumble recoveries, Okay, tackles defense, Okay, Yes,

2018
01:46:48,160 --> 01:46:52,000
Speaker 1: player B over Player A. I wonder who player B is,

2019
01:46:55,479 --> 01:47:00,160
Speaker 1: Nick Bosa, Nick Bosa over Chris Jones Nick Bosa. So

2020
01:47:00,320 --> 01:47:04,679
Speaker 1: quite the year for a rookie to see those stats

2021
01:47:05,120 --> 01:47:08,200
Speaker 1: from a rookie of incredible. How about Chris Jones having

2022
01:47:08,200 --> 01:47:10,160
Speaker 1: a kind of year that the Stax up pretty Chris

2023
01:47:10,240 --> 01:47:13,400
Speaker 1: Jones also only played in thirteen games, so he has

2024
01:47:13,439 --> 01:47:16,920
Speaker 1: three less games than Nick Bosa. Yeah, Nick Bosa's a

2025
01:47:16,960 --> 01:47:19,720
Speaker 1: defensive rookie the year. I mean, that's that guy's really good.

2026
01:47:19,760 --> 01:47:23,880
Speaker 1: So yeah, Chris Jones put together a nice season for

2027
01:47:23,920 --> 01:47:26,080
Speaker 1: the Kansas City Chiefs, which surprising because they didn't have

2028
01:47:26,080 --> 01:47:28,640
Speaker 1: anybody goes playing defense last year. Good for that. All right,

2029
01:47:28,640 --> 01:47:31,840
Speaker 1: so I got nicks Nick Bosa. You're you're making quite

2030
01:47:31,840 --> 01:47:34,479
Speaker 1: the team right now. You're going together some great players.

2031
01:47:34,760 --> 01:47:39,160
Speaker 1: You know, it's okay. You you build around maybe a

2032
01:47:39,240 --> 01:47:41,519
Speaker 1: couple of players. Then you put your quarterback in last.

2033
01:47:41,840 --> 01:47:45,040
Speaker 1: All right, we could work. We have one more. This

2034
01:47:45,160 --> 01:47:49,280
Speaker 1: is our corners. Would you rather have? This is league wide?

2035
01:47:49,960 --> 01:47:53,639
Speaker 1: Player A. Would you rather have sixty one tackles, two

2036
01:47:53,680 --> 01:47:58,760
Speaker 1: tackles for loss, eleven passes defense, three interceptions, zero sacks,

2037
01:47:58,760 --> 01:48:01,960
Speaker 1: but one touchdown? Or would you ever rather have player B?

2038
01:48:02,479 --> 01:48:06,080
Speaker 1: He's got fifty eight tackles, five tackles for loss, seventeen

2039
01:48:06,120 --> 01:48:11,760
Speaker 1: passes defense, six interceptions, one sack, and no touchdowns. I

2040
01:48:11,800 --> 01:48:14,280
Speaker 1: think you gotta go. I think for corner, I think

2041
01:48:14,280 --> 01:48:20,080
Speaker 1: you gotta go player player B. You like interceptions, tackles three,

2042
01:48:20,280 --> 01:48:23,919
Speaker 1: three more tackles for loss? I got pass more passes, defense,

2043
01:48:24,360 --> 01:48:27,960
Speaker 1: three more interceptions, got a sack. Now Player A had

2044
01:48:28,000 --> 01:48:30,280
Speaker 1: the touchdown. But other than that, I think, yeah, player

2045
01:48:30,320 --> 01:48:33,519
Speaker 1: B is a player B. Player B over player A. YEA,

2046
01:48:33,840 --> 01:48:37,320
Speaker 1: all right, player B over player A. Four the corners.

2047
01:48:37,560 --> 01:48:46,200
Speaker 1: Show me who player B is. Please, yeah, I'm yeah.

2048
01:48:46,200 --> 01:48:48,680
Speaker 1: I got Tredavious White over Richard Sherman. That's that's a

2049
01:48:48,680 --> 01:48:52,080
Speaker 1: pretty good stat line. That is a pretty dang good

2050
01:48:52,200 --> 01:48:55,240
Speaker 1: stat line. But PF graded Richard Sherman as the best

2051
01:48:55,280 --> 01:48:58,080
Speaker 1: coverage player we learned today. That's what I'm saying this

2052
01:48:58,200 --> 01:49:00,559
Speaker 1: and what we said at stat and I think I

2053
01:49:00,560 --> 01:49:02,360
Speaker 1: think he probably is as good as anybody. I mean,

2054
01:49:02,439 --> 01:49:07,679
Speaker 1: Richard Sherman is is a phenomenal player. And it's it's

2055
01:49:07,720 --> 01:49:11,680
Speaker 1: hard to, you know, to equalize. You know, the two

2056
01:49:11,680 --> 01:49:13,960
Speaker 1: guys who were being asking two different things in both defenses,

2057
01:49:14,000 --> 01:49:16,799
Speaker 1: but Richard Sherman that both those guys are elite corners.

2058
01:49:16,800 --> 01:49:19,040
Speaker 1: I mean, good, heck, yeah, I care which one I get.

2059
01:49:19,640 --> 01:49:22,160
Speaker 1: But you know, Trey White awesome had a great year.

2060
01:49:22,240 --> 01:49:23,840
Speaker 1: Good season. It's nice to see him in there with

2061
01:49:24,040 --> 01:49:26,479
Speaker 1: a guy like Richard Sherman and to see those stats

2062
01:49:26,479 --> 01:49:29,040
Speaker 1: not knowing what players which so rid us off the

2063
01:49:29,040 --> 01:49:32,719
Speaker 1: players that you chose. Please, I took White over Richard Sherman.

2064
01:49:32,760 --> 01:49:35,479
Speaker 1: I got Nick Bosa, Sakwan Barkley, A J. Brown at

2065
01:49:35,520 --> 01:49:40,559
Speaker 1: wide receiver, Travis or Jake Kittle, George George Kittle, and

2066
01:49:40,760 --> 01:49:45,280
Speaker 1: Ryan Till. Oh. You could have done that with every

2067
01:49:45,360 --> 01:49:47,360
Speaker 1: quarterback compared to Tom Brady this year, though, But I

2068
01:49:47,360 --> 01:49:50,280
Speaker 1: took Ryan Tannehill stat line over Tom Brady. How do

2069
01:49:50,320 --> 01:49:52,800
Speaker 1: you feel about your selections? Pretty good up until the

2070
01:49:52,800 --> 01:49:55,880
Speaker 1: time we have to throw the football? Well, you know,

2071
01:49:56,080 --> 01:49:58,639
Speaker 1: I mean it's okay, you got you got some great players.

2072
01:49:58,680 --> 01:50:01,519
Speaker 1: Other than that, Yeah, all right, that's good. That's cool though.

2073
01:50:01,560 --> 01:50:03,160
Speaker 1: That's a that's a good game. I like, yeah, I

2074
01:50:03,240 --> 01:50:05,400
Speaker 1: like that. It's you got to compare their stats and

2075
01:50:05,680 --> 01:50:08,479
Speaker 1: without knowing who the players are. It changes things when

2076
01:50:08,479 --> 01:50:11,840
Speaker 1: you see who they are. Yeah, when you really reveal yeah, oh, Tannehill,

2077
01:50:11,920 --> 01:50:13,880
Speaker 1: what and I got a guy like and I didn't

2078
01:50:13,880 --> 01:50:16,160
Speaker 1: know who Chris Jones was for the Kansas City Chiefs

2079
01:50:16,160 --> 01:50:19,439
Speaker 1: and stacking up against Nick Bosa, who looked pretty good.

2080
01:50:19,439 --> 01:50:21,760
Speaker 1: So that's a fun game. Fun game. Maybe we'll play

2081
01:50:21,760 --> 01:50:24,759
Speaker 1: it again soon. We are going to take a break,

2082
01:50:24,800 --> 01:50:26,680
Speaker 1: but when we come back, we are going to hear

2083
01:50:26,720 --> 01:50:29,280
Speaker 1: from Jim Kelly. He is down at the super Bowl

2084
01:50:29,479 --> 01:50:32,519
Speaker 1: and is getting a pretty cool award, being honored for

2085
01:50:32,760 --> 01:50:35,160
Speaker 1: something that he's been doing, which is just awesome to hear.

2086
01:50:35,200 --> 01:50:54,160
Speaker 1: So we'll cover all that coming up next. Welcome into

2087
01:50:54,200 --> 01:50:57,120
Speaker 1: One Bill's Live from One Bill's Drive. Maddie glab here

2088
01:50:57,120 --> 01:51:01,799
Speaker 1: with Steve Tasker and one of our Mills greats, Jim Kelly.

2089
01:51:01,840 --> 01:51:04,000
Speaker 1: He's going to be at the super Bowl this week.

2090
01:51:04,120 --> 01:51:08,479
Speaker 1: He is going to be honored on Thursday at a

2091
01:51:08,600 --> 01:51:12,720
Speaker 1: Legends for Charity dinner which benefits Saint Jude's Research Hospital.

2092
01:51:12,760 --> 01:51:15,479
Speaker 1: He is going to receive the Pat summer All Award.

2093
01:51:15,520 --> 01:51:18,479
Speaker 1: He'll be the fifteenth recipient of this award, and it's

2094
01:51:18,520 --> 01:51:21,320
Speaker 1: an honor of late legendary broadcaster known for many years

2095
01:51:21,360 --> 01:51:23,639
Speaker 1: as the voice of the NFL. That's Pat summer All,

2096
01:51:23,960 --> 01:51:27,719
Speaker 1: and the award is given to each year to somebody

2097
01:51:27,920 --> 01:51:31,080
Speaker 1: of a deserving sports personality and it's being given to

2098
01:51:31,160 --> 01:51:33,720
Speaker 1: Jim Kelly this year, not for only just what he's

2099
01:51:33,760 --> 01:51:35,639
Speaker 1: done on the field, but a lot of what he's

2100
01:51:35,680 --> 01:51:38,160
Speaker 1: done off the field, how he's given back to the

2101
01:51:38,160 --> 01:51:41,760
Speaker 1: community as well as his battle with cancer and how

2102
01:51:41,800 --> 01:51:46,400
Speaker 1: he's beaten that multiple times. So definitely worth receiving an

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Speaker 1: award like this. He joined NFL Network yesterday actually and

2104
01:51:50,960 --> 01:51:54,400
Speaker 1: talked about that award, among other things surrounding this year's

2105
01:51:54,439 --> 01:51:58,360
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. Let's hear from Jim. Good to see you, sir.

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01:51:58,439 --> 01:52:02,719
Speaker 1: How you feeling. I feel pretty good. All much scams

2107
01:52:02,760 --> 01:52:06,200
Speaker 1: out by week and a half ago, came back old negative,

2108
01:52:06,240 --> 01:52:08,960
Speaker 1: which is in that word you just sound bad. But

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01:52:09,040 --> 01:52:12,719
Speaker 1: when you're fighting cancer, everything came back good. So I'm

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01:52:12,720 --> 01:52:15,200
Speaker 1: blessed and I got to feel good. I'm taking my

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01:52:15,280 --> 01:52:19,120
Speaker 1: five brothers and my high school football coach to her

2112
01:52:19,240 --> 01:52:22,000
Speaker 1: thirty Super Bowl. I've been able to take them. So

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01:52:22,439 --> 01:52:24,479
Speaker 1: we're going to my old stomping ground. You're gonna have

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01:52:24,520 --> 01:52:28,200
Speaker 1: a little fun, and you're also being honored Jim as

2115
01:52:28,240 --> 01:52:31,720
Speaker 1: well with the Pat summer All Award. It's the Legends

2116
01:52:31,840 --> 01:52:36,120
Speaker 1: of Charity dinner and if benefits Saint Jude's Research Hospital.

2117
01:52:36,160 --> 01:52:40,439
Speaker 1: Pretty cool. Yeah, I'm excited. I mean, Chris Berman's won

2118
01:52:40,520 --> 01:52:44,720
Speaker 1: us gonna give me my award, but more importantly, I

2119
01:52:44,800 --> 01:52:48,120
Speaker 1: understand what Saint Jude is all about the kids, and

2120
01:52:48,439 --> 01:52:50,519
Speaker 1: I mean I've had a football camp for kids for

2121
01:52:50,560 --> 01:52:53,360
Speaker 1: thirty three years right here in Buffalo, and we try

2122
01:52:53,400 --> 01:52:56,320
Speaker 1: to make many trips down to the children's hospital here

2123
01:52:56,360 --> 01:52:58,400
Speaker 1: to make sure that we are making a difference. And

2124
01:52:58,960 --> 01:53:01,760
Speaker 1: unfortunately I got to experience out a lot with my

2125
01:53:01,840 --> 01:53:04,519
Speaker 1: son and knowled's been Heaven looking down on us. But

2126
01:53:04,760 --> 01:53:07,559
Speaker 1: uh yeah, it's it's an awesome thing they do. Bottom

2127
01:53:07,600 --> 01:53:10,519
Speaker 1: line is making kids there Tomorrow is better. But what

2128
01:53:10,560 --> 01:53:14,360
Speaker 1: would you do today raising money region awarnerers? Yeah, the

2129
01:53:14,400 --> 01:53:16,920
Speaker 1: award is one thing, but the money that is raised

2130
01:53:17,040 --> 01:53:19,400
Speaker 1: is another thing. And now in fifteen years it's it's

2131
01:53:19,439 --> 01:53:22,760
Speaker 1: over seven million that has been raised through this great event.

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01:53:23,080 --> 01:53:27,840
Speaker 1: Absolutely for Saint Jude's. Jim, I've mentioned obviously four Super

2133
01:53:27,840 --> 01:53:30,320
Speaker 1: Bowl trips. You remember back that first one in Tampa.

2134
01:53:30,400 --> 01:53:33,760
Speaker 1: It's the first time here for Patrick Mahomes and for

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01:53:33,880 --> 01:53:38,479
Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo. What would you tell them, Well, bottom lines,

2136
01:53:38,560 --> 01:53:41,120
Speaker 1: enjoyed because you never know if you'll ever get back

2137
01:53:41,160 --> 01:53:43,639
Speaker 1: to it. And I'm sure you've heard people players say

2138
01:53:43,680 --> 01:53:47,680
Speaker 1: that before and even if week that's what you have

2139
01:53:47,760 --> 01:53:49,840
Speaker 1: to you have to go enjoy yourself and realize it

2140
01:53:49,920 --> 01:53:52,680
Speaker 1: is a business trip, and for me it was. You know,

2141
01:53:52,720 --> 01:53:55,400
Speaker 1: we didn't have that extra week in between the Super Bowl.

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01:53:55,439 --> 01:53:58,679
Speaker 1: When we were there our first trip, playing against the Giants,

2143
01:53:58,720 --> 01:54:01,800
Speaker 1: we went right from eating the Raiders fifty one to three,

2144
01:54:01,960 --> 01:54:03,920
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, the following week we're playing against

2145
01:54:03,960 --> 01:54:06,960
Speaker 1: the Giants. And I was during the Gulf War where

2146
01:54:07,000 --> 01:54:10,080
Speaker 1: everybody metal detectors and a little different then. But it

2147
01:54:10,200 --> 01:54:13,320
Speaker 1: was one of the Super Bowls. I'll always remember Whitney

2148
01:54:13,360 --> 01:54:17,439
Speaker 1: Houston sending the national anthem. And of course when I

2149
01:54:17,479 --> 01:54:20,440
Speaker 1: was a little boy growing up in East Brady, Pennsylvania,

2150
01:54:20,600 --> 01:54:23,479
Speaker 1: I remember as a little kid in my backyard, you know,

2151
01:54:23,600 --> 01:54:26,880
Speaker 1: dreaming about the day that if it came true that

2152
01:54:26,960 --> 01:54:29,080
Speaker 1: I was leaving my team down to field with two

2153
01:54:29,080 --> 01:54:31,519
Speaker 1: minutes agoing to Super Bowl and winning it, and all

2154
01:54:31,560 --> 01:54:34,040
Speaker 1: of a sudden, I'm on the sidelines and it's happening

2155
01:54:34,240 --> 01:54:37,920
Speaker 1: two minutes agoing Super Bowl twenty five. I'm the quarterback

2156
01:54:37,960 --> 01:54:40,160
Speaker 1: and I'll leave my team down And unfortunately we all

2157
01:54:40,240 --> 01:54:42,800
Speaker 1: know what happened. But hey, it's part of life. It's

2158
01:54:42,880 --> 01:54:45,200
Speaker 1: part of a lot of great memories. Even though we

2159
01:54:45,240 --> 01:54:48,839
Speaker 1: didn't win it. For the resiliency of our team, the players,

2160
01:54:48,960 --> 01:54:52,080
Speaker 1: and especially coach Marvel Levie being able to get back

2161
01:54:52,080 --> 01:54:55,160
Speaker 1: her forty years in a row. It's just unbelievable. Yeah,

2162
01:54:55,200 --> 01:54:57,560
Speaker 1: I love some Marvel Levy. Also love some Kyle Shanahan too,

2163
01:54:57,600 --> 01:54:59,760
Speaker 1: and the game plans that he draws up here. Ge,

2164
01:55:00,080 --> 01:55:02,280
Speaker 1: if you had an offense named after you, I realize

2165
01:55:02,280 --> 01:55:03,680
Speaker 1: you're gonna be modest here what we called it the

2166
01:55:03,760 --> 01:55:08,000
Speaker 1: k gun offense. Could you imagine then that we in

2167
01:55:08,120 --> 01:55:12,080
Speaker 1: twenty twenty in good weather see a quarterback and Jimmy

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01:55:12,080 --> 01:55:14,880
Speaker 1: Garoppolo lead a team to a Super Bowl throwing eight passes.

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01:55:15,040 --> 01:55:19,240
Speaker 1: Jim unbelievable, you know what, To be honest with you,

2170
01:55:19,640 --> 01:55:22,360
Speaker 1: maybe that's what I should have done in Super Bowl

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01:55:22,400 --> 01:55:25,240
Speaker 1: twenty five. I probably should have let Thurman run the

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01:55:25,240 --> 01:55:27,200
Speaker 1: ball a little bit more. We might have no one.

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01:55:27,240 --> 01:55:30,120
Speaker 1: But the thing is in that game we only had

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01:55:30,160 --> 01:55:32,800
Speaker 1: the ball for I think eighteen minutes. The time of

2175
01:55:32,920 --> 01:55:36,120
Speaker 1: possession was like forty two to eighteen, And you can't

2176
01:55:36,160 --> 01:55:38,120
Speaker 1: score a lot of points when you're standing on the

2177
01:55:38,200 --> 01:55:41,160
Speaker 1: sideline watching their offense go. But do you know what,

2178
01:55:42,240 --> 01:55:45,880
Speaker 1: as a quarterback, that would be awesome. But sometimes I

2179
01:55:46,160 --> 01:55:47,880
Speaker 1: just like being a big part of it, or like

2180
01:55:48,040 --> 01:55:50,640
Speaker 1: all quarterbacks do. But if you're going to the Super

2181
01:55:50,680 --> 01:55:52,840
Speaker 1: Bowl and you only have to throw them all away times,

2182
01:55:52,920 --> 01:55:56,960
Speaker 1: make those Jake throws very valuable and very important. We

2183
01:55:57,040 --> 01:55:59,400
Speaker 1: have jim last thing here and we appreciate the time.

2184
01:55:59,440 --> 01:56:01,160
Speaker 1: So before you get on a plane and go to Miami,

2185
01:56:01,240 --> 01:56:04,839
Speaker 1: we have a big decision. Yeah, coming in New England.

2186
01:56:05,640 --> 01:56:11,280
Speaker 1: What would you tell Tom bred Probably what I've been

2187
01:56:11,320 --> 01:56:13,880
Speaker 1: telling for three years now. It's time to kick back,

2188
01:56:13,920 --> 01:56:17,080
Speaker 1: relax and enjoy life with your kids, your family, your wife,

2189
01:56:17,160 --> 01:56:20,440
Speaker 1: go to different islands, have fun. But you know what

2190
01:56:21,160 --> 01:56:23,280
Speaker 1: He's always told me that he still feels good. He

2191
01:56:23,320 --> 01:56:25,320
Speaker 1: loves playing a game. And if you love playing it

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01:56:25,440 --> 01:56:27,440
Speaker 1: that much, and then keep going. But the thing is,

2193
01:56:27,880 --> 01:56:30,480
Speaker 1: I remember when my last game, you know, I sustained

2194
01:56:30,520 --> 01:56:32,560
Speaker 1: I think my fourth or fifth concussion. I was having

2195
01:56:32,560 --> 01:56:35,080
Speaker 1: a problem with my shoulder. I didn't feel real good.

2196
01:56:35,160 --> 01:56:38,440
Speaker 1: Even though I'm sinking about coming back. Tom's feeling good,

2197
01:56:38,480 --> 01:56:41,640
Speaker 1: so why not continue? But unfortunately he's in our division

2198
01:56:42,200 --> 01:56:45,480
Speaker 1: and we still have to worry about Tom Brady twice

2199
01:56:45,480 --> 01:56:48,440
Speaker 1: a year, and who knows what he's gonna do. But

2200
01:56:48,520 --> 01:56:50,920
Speaker 1: whatever Tom decided to do is gonna do because it's

2201
01:56:50,960 --> 01:56:53,320
Speaker 1: heart's in it and his family has also in it

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01:56:53,360 --> 01:56:59,400
Speaker 1: with him. But right now today, Tom retard, please, I

2203
01:56:59,480 --> 01:57:01,480
Speaker 1: think there's a lot of the Bills fan coming out

2204
01:57:01,480 --> 01:57:03,640
Speaker 1: of you when you say that. Hall of Favorite Jim

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01:57:03,720 --> 01:57:05,840
Speaker 1: Kelly Honor by Saint Jude and the Pat Summer All

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01:57:05,880 --> 01:57:08,200
Speaker 1: Award later this week in Miami. It is great to

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01:57:08,200 --> 01:57:13,000
Speaker 1: see you doing well, sir see in Florida. That was

2208
01:57:13,080 --> 01:57:16,120
Speaker 1: Jim Kelly about receiving the Pat Summer All Award and

2209
01:57:16,200 --> 01:57:19,400
Speaker 1: also his thoughts on Tom Brady and what Tom Brady

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01:57:19,440 --> 01:57:24,320
Speaker 1: should do. What, yeah, yeah, I do. I'm in all seriousness.

2211
01:57:24,360 --> 01:57:25,680
Speaker 1: I mean, all of us, you know here in Buffalo

2212
01:57:25,800 --> 01:57:28,800
Speaker 1: can't wait for the guy to retire. But for if

2213
01:57:28,840 --> 01:57:30,440
Speaker 1: his heart's still in it, he still wants to play.

2214
01:57:30,480 --> 01:57:33,280
Speaker 1: I think it's important because I heard also Peyton Manning

2215
01:57:33,320 --> 01:57:37,880
Speaker 1: told me this one time. You don't get to play

2216
01:57:38,000 --> 01:57:40,720
Speaker 1: quarterback your whole life and when you can, and you

2217
01:57:40,720 --> 01:57:43,040
Speaker 1: should do it and do it as long as you can,

2218
01:57:43,120 --> 01:57:47,000
Speaker 1: because once it's over, you're gonna you're done. And he's right,

2219
01:57:47,320 --> 01:57:49,000
Speaker 1: you don't get to take a break for you know,

2220
01:57:49,080 --> 01:57:50,680
Speaker 1: a couple of years and then come back and do it.

2221
01:57:50,680 --> 01:57:52,760
Speaker 1: It's all over then, so do it for as long

2222
01:57:52,800 --> 01:57:54,680
Speaker 1: as you can, make sure you get your fill of it.

2223
01:57:54,720 --> 01:57:56,520
Speaker 1: And if you still want to keep doing, keep trying

2224
01:57:56,520 --> 01:57:59,720
Speaker 1: to do it. But also to you got to do

2225
01:57:59,760 --> 01:58:02,480
Speaker 1: what's best for you and your family, not what's best

2226
01:58:02,760 --> 01:58:04,520
Speaker 1: and even in the case of Tom Brady, not what's

2227
01:58:04,520 --> 01:58:06,800
Speaker 1: best for the New England Patriots, not what's best for

2228
01:58:07,040 --> 01:58:10,080
Speaker 1: Robert Crafter, Bill Belichick, but what's best for Tom Brady

2229
01:58:10,080 --> 01:58:12,760
Speaker 1: and his wife and his children on their future together.

2230
01:58:12,800 --> 01:58:14,960
Speaker 1: And then that's where you kind of make the make

2231
01:58:15,000 --> 01:58:18,080
Speaker 1: your decision and whatever he decides. I mean, we've all

2232
01:58:18,120 --> 01:58:21,120
Speaker 1: been witnessed to maybe the greatest career of a quarterback

2233
01:58:21,160 --> 01:58:25,240
Speaker 1: in NFL history, and for that it's been a privilege

2234
01:58:25,280 --> 01:58:27,440
Speaker 1: to watch him, but it has been excruciating for much

2235
01:58:27,440 --> 01:58:30,120
Speaker 1: of it for Bills fans. And it's it's not just

2236
01:58:30,200 --> 01:58:33,160
Speaker 1: Tom Brady this year maybe deciding on what's next, but

2237
01:58:33,240 --> 01:58:37,120
Speaker 1: it's also we've heard reports on Philip Rivers and Drew Brees,

2238
01:58:37,160 --> 01:58:38,920
Speaker 1: and Drew Brees is going to take the next month

2239
01:58:38,960 --> 01:58:41,960
Speaker 1: to the side, and then yesterday and social media we're

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01:58:42,000 --> 01:58:44,760
Speaker 1: seeing are the Charters going to move on from Philip Rivers.

2241
01:58:44,840 --> 01:58:48,360
Speaker 1: So It's interesting to see three of these quarterbacks who

2242
01:58:48,360 --> 01:58:51,440
Speaker 1: are kind of maybe dealing with similar things. I mean,

2243
01:58:51,480 --> 01:58:54,680
Speaker 1: these are quarterbacks that have been a part of the

2244
01:58:54,800 --> 01:58:57,280
Speaker 1: NFL for so long and have made their mark on

2245
01:58:57,320 --> 01:59:00,720
Speaker 1: the NFL, and frankly, probably still have a couple of

2246
01:59:00,800 --> 01:59:03,520
Speaker 1: years left in their tank if they really want to. Yeah,

2247
01:59:03,640 --> 01:59:05,720
Speaker 1: and you gotta put you know, Ben Roethlisberger took a

2248
01:59:05,720 --> 01:59:07,840
Speaker 1: whole season off. He just he lost a whole season

2249
01:59:07,920 --> 01:59:10,760
Speaker 1: with his elbow injury. Eli Manning has hung him up,

2250
01:59:11,200 --> 01:59:15,200
Speaker 1: He's done. Um, you know, Matt Ryan is getting up

2251
01:59:15,200 --> 01:59:18,520
Speaker 1: there further and further into his career, Philip Rivers. What

2252
01:59:18,640 --> 01:59:21,440
Speaker 1: happens to him in San Diego? Are they gonna you know,

2253
01:59:21,640 --> 01:59:24,120
Speaker 1: he's it looks like San Diego's moving on from him.

2254
01:59:24,120 --> 01:59:25,920
Speaker 1: And now we've heard today maybe they won't move on

2255
01:59:25,960 --> 01:59:29,360
Speaker 1: for him, Maybe they'll franchise him. Who knows, but Tom Brady,

2256
01:59:30,120 --> 01:59:34,560
Speaker 1: Eli Manning, Drew Brees, Ben Roethlisberger, Aaron Rodgers is now

2257
01:59:34,600 --> 01:59:37,480
Speaker 1: deep into his career, Philip Rivers. Of course, you know,

2258
01:59:37,520 --> 01:59:43,000
Speaker 1: these are quarterbacks that are iconic and franchise changing for

2259
01:59:43,040 --> 01:59:45,680
Speaker 1: their for their teams in their cities. All of them

2260
01:59:45,680 --> 01:59:47,160
Speaker 1: are getting towards the end of it. And now we

2261
01:59:47,200 --> 01:59:50,920
Speaker 1: have this whole new crew with ye of quarterbacks. We're

2262
01:59:50,960 --> 01:59:54,680
Speaker 1: seeing the NFL evolved. It's I think it's so interesting

2263
01:59:54,760 --> 01:59:56,560
Speaker 1: when you when you take a step back and you

2264
01:59:56,680 --> 01:59:59,680
Speaker 1: look at the quarterbacks that come through and when you

2265
01:59:59,720 --> 02:00:02,000
Speaker 1: start to see that change and this is a new

2266
02:00:02,080 --> 02:00:05,120
Speaker 1: system that teams are running. These are different quarterbacks that

2267
02:00:05,160 --> 02:00:08,320
Speaker 1: we're seeing. We're not seeing as many true pocket passers

2268
02:00:08,400 --> 02:00:11,320
Speaker 1: anymore in the NFL. We're seeing kind of the end

2269
02:00:11,400 --> 02:00:13,800
Speaker 1: of that. And could Philip Rivers be one of the

2270
02:00:13,880 --> 02:00:17,800
Speaker 1: last ones that we see for this era of the NFL. Yeah,

2271
02:00:17,880 --> 02:00:20,080
Speaker 1: It's it's interesting because we saw that change when Cam

2272
02:00:20,080 --> 02:00:22,120
Speaker 1: Newton began to play and he was you know, he's

2273
02:00:22,200 --> 02:00:24,080
Speaker 1: kind of the atomic bomb. I mean, that guy was

2274
02:00:24,120 --> 02:00:27,240
Speaker 1: like you couldn't tackle him, he was so big. Ben

2275
02:00:27,360 --> 02:00:29,400
Speaker 1: Roethlisberger was that way, but he didn't really use his

2276
02:00:29,440 --> 02:00:32,400
Speaker 1: athleticism or his size in that way. Now you've got

2277
02:00:32,480 --> 02:00:36,680
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson, You've got Deshaun Watson, You've got Pat Mahomes

2278
02:00:36,680 --> 02:00:41,280
Speaker 1: and josh Allen Kyler Murray now out in LA you've

2279
02:00:41,280 --> 02:00:43,760
Speaker 1: got all these guys who were running around. Russell Wilson

2280
02:00:43,760 --> 02:00:46,680
Speaker 1: has been doing it at a high level and was

2281
02:00:46,760 --> 02:00:49,200
Speaker 1: really an MVP candidate this year with the way he plays,

2282
02:00:49,960 --> 02:00:52,360
Speaker 1: his athleticism, his ability to avoid in the pocket, not

2283
02:00:52,440 --> 02:00:55,440
Speaker 1: just throw the football on time. All of that has

2284
02:00:55,520 --> 02:00:58,000
Speaker 1: changed in the NFL. And you get guys that you

2285
02:00:58,040 --> 02:01:02,320
Speaker 1: know back in the day, Eli Man and Philip Rivers,

2286
02:01:02,360 --> 02:01:05,920
Speaker 1: you know, they're they're different guys now. Drew Brees he

2287
02:01:06,040 --> 02:01:08,280
Speaker 1: never you never really saw him running around like that either.

2288
02:01:08,760 --> 02:01:12,280
Speaker 1: So it's the game is continuing to evolve and the

2289
02:01:12,320 --> 02:01:15,400
Speaker 1: players that play it and their skill sets will evolve

2290
02:01:15,440 --> 02:01:17,240
Speaker 1: with it. And we've seen that over the last handful.

2291
02:01:17,280 --> 02:01:18,960
Speaker 1: And you look at the quarterbacks that are in this

2292
02:01:19,040 --> 02:01:22,680
Speaker 1: year's draft, and they completely model what the new is

2293
02:01:22,760 --> 02:01:25,840
Speaker 1: in the NFL, and they model the Lamar Jacksons and

2294
02:01:25,880 --> 02:01:29,480
Speaker 1: the Josh Allen's. There's completely a facet of the run

2295
02:01:29,560 --> 02:01:32,840
Speaker 1: game in almost every quarterback now that you're seeing in

2296
02:01:33,000 --> 02:01:36,080
Speaker 1: college football who does have a future in the NFL.

2297
02:01:37,400 --> 02:01:40,560
Speaker 1: Speaking of that, let's get into some true false with

2298
02:01:40,720 --> 02:01:44,440
Speaker 1: chess to do with some quarterbacks sign for NFL. True

2299
02:01:44,440 --> 02:01:48,400
Speaker 1: false brought to you by Yancey's Fancy New York's artisan Cheese.

2300
02:01:49,120 --> 02:01:54,480
Speaker 1: In our first one, should the Lions consider taking Tua

2301
02:01:54,600 --> 02:01:58,560
Speaker 1: tongue of viola in this year's draft. Now we saw

2302
02:01:58,640 --> 02:02:01,440
Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford get put it on the ir this year

2303
02:02:01,520 --> 02:02:05,879
Speaker 1: with the fractures in his back. Should the Lions consider

2304
02:02:06,000 --> 02:02:09,600
Speaker 1: taking too. I'm looking at Bucky Brooks's mock draft right now,

2305
02:02:09,640 --> 02:02:14,320
Speaker 1: and right now he has TA going fifth overall to

2306
02:02:15,120 --> 02:02:18,240
Speaker 1: the Dolphins. Now the Lions have the third pick in

2307
02:02:18,280 --> 02:02:21,720
Speaker 1: the draft to this year, right, I think two a

2308
02:02:21,800 --> 02:02:24,000
Speaker 1: tag of a looa will be on the board when

2309
02:02:24,000 --> 02:02:28,560
Speaker 1: the Lions pick, No question about it. Yeah, I consider it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah if he yeah, they know more than I do.

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Speaker 1: But if if Matt Stafford is I still think he

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02:02:36,560 --> 02:02:38,840
Speaker 1: can play. But if he's so, we're injury proneent he

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Speaker 1: can get another year out of him, I would say, yeah,

2314
02:02:41,200 --> 02:02:43,720
Speaker 1: take two a tag of aloa and start to make

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Speaker 1: the transition into the next generation. Do what the Chiefs

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02:02:46,520 --> 02:02:50,360
Speaker 1: did with Patrick Mahomes. Let Matt Stafford play in front

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02:02:50,400 --> 02:02:52,880
Speaker 1: of him and take the reps. Let him learn see

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Speaker 1: how it is to be a professional, See what it

2319
02:02:54,440 --> 02:02:55,760
Speaker 1: is to lead a team, See what it is to

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Speaker 1: call plays in a huddle in the National Football League level.

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02:02:58,840 --> 02:03:01,000
Speaker 1: From a guy who's done it very well. And then

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02:03:01,080 --> 02:03:03,560
Speaker 1: move him into that starting spot in a year or

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02:03:03,560 --> 02:03:06,200
Speaker 1: two or three or whatever, like the Brackers did with

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers in four years. If but the only reason

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02:03:08,920 --> 02:03:10,560
Speaker 1: you lead it let him sit is because you're playing

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02:03:10,560 --> 02:03:12,480
Speaker 1: well and you've got that option to do and then

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Speaker 1: you don't mind doing it. So yeah, I would say, yes,

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02:03:15,360 --> 02:03:17,800
Speaker 1: do consider it. Matt Stafford's been around a long time.

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02:03:17,800 --> 02:03:20,040
Speaker 1: He's been a little injury prone, particularly here of late,

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02:03:20,560 --> 02:03:22,480
Speaker 1: and you've got to be ready to move on from him.

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02:03:22,720 --> 02:03:24,800
Speaker 1: But if he can play, Matt Stafford is a guy

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Speaker 1: you want to go with. Yeah. Stafford was drafted in

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Speaker 1: two thousand and nine with the first overall pick by

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Speaker 1: the Lions, so that's now gaining on eleven years. I

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Speaker 1: agree with that, I think true. I think if Matt

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02:03:36,760 --> 02:03:39,080
Speaker 1: Stafford can play a couple more years, great, He's done

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02:03:39,120 --> 02:03:41,560
Speaker 1: some great things for the Lions. But to be able

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Speaker 1: to be groomed under a quarterback like Matt Stafford and

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02:03:45,280 --> 02:03:47,920
Speaker 1: to learn from someone like that, I think that would

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02:03:47,960 --> 02:03:52,920
Speaker 1: be very beneficial and for the Lions going forward to

2341
02:03:53,120 --> 02:03:55,879
Speaker 1: kind of revamp that team and to have some success.

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02:03:56,640 --> 02:04:00,600
Speaker 1: Number two Tampa Bay is that the best the landing

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02:04:00,680 --> 02:04:06,040
Speaker 1: spot for Philip Rivers, I would say that's a great

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02:04:06,080 --> 02:04:08,080
Speaker 1: spot for him. I don't know if it's the best spot,

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02:04:08,120 --> 02:04:10,320
Speaker 1: but I certainly think it's a possibility. I said yesterday,

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02:04:10,360 --> 02:04:12,680
Speaker 1: I thought Indianapolis would be a better place for him

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02:04:12,720 --> 02:04:17,240
Speaker 1: with his history with Frank Reich. But Bruce Arians is

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02:04:17,240 --> 02:04:20,520
Speaker 1: this also the guy that took that did some really

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02:04:20,560 --> 02:04:23,040
Speaker 1: good things with Carson Palmer at the end of his

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02:04:23,160 --> 02:04:26,800
Speaker 1: career and got that team back on track with a

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02:04:26,880 --> 02:04:29,720
Speaker 1: veteran quarterback. And Bruce Arians is a quarter a guy

2352
02:04:29,760 --> 02:04:33,160
Speaker 1: who knows how quarterbacks think. Philip Rivers would probably respond

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02:04:33,200 --> 02:04:36,200
Speaker 1: extremely well to being in the room with Bruce Arians.

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02:04:37,000 --> 02:04:39,280
Speaker 1: So yeah, I think Tampa Bay is a great candidate.

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02:04:39,320 --> 02:04:41,440
Speaker 1: But there's a couple. There's not just one great one.

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02:04:41,480 --> 02:04:43,760
Speaker 1: I think there's a couple of Indianapolis and Tampa Bay,

2357
02:04:43,840 --> 02:04:49,160
Speaker 1: or the two I mentioned to yesterday or to Brownie yesterday.

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02:04:49,200 --> 02:04:51,800
Speaker 1: I thought Philip Rivers could end up either in in

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02:04:51,800 --> 02:04:56,280
Speaker 1: Indianapolis or in Tampa Bay. But it depends on where Philip,

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02:04:56,360 --> 02:04:58,800
Speaker 1: if Philip Rivers wants to move away from southern California

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02:04:58,840 --> 02:05:01,320
Speaker 1: at all. So we'll see, and he may just want

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02:05:01,360 --> 02:05:03,880
Speaker 1: to say thanks anyway, I'm done and does that mean

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02:05:03,960 --> 02:05:10,080
Speaker 1: Jameis Winston stays not necessarily. Yeah, that's the other caveat

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02:05:10,120 --> 02:05:12,720
Speaker 1: to that question. Yeah, Jameis Winston has some great he's

2365
02:05:12,760 --> 02:05:16,040
Speaker 1: got great arm talent, He's a he's a courageous thrower.

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02:05:16,640 --> 02:05:18,640
Speaker 1: He's got to work on his his you know, his

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02:05:19,960 --> 02:05:22,960
Speaker 1: decision making. Obviously he's thrown he through thirty touchdowns through

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02:05:23,000 --> 02:05:27,600
Speaker 1: being thirty interceptions. So I'm you know, you can't win

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02:05:27,720 --> 02:05:30,480
Speaker 1: consistently like that. But man, oh man, he's got a

2370
02:05:30,480 --> 02:05:32,240
Speaker 1: lot to offer if you could just get that often.

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02:05:32,320 --> 02:05:34,800
Speaker 1: But if Bruce Arians can't get it, yeah, exactly, If

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02:05:34,840 --> 02:05:36,640
Speaker 1: Bruce Arians can't do it, does he have a life

2373
02:05:36,680 --> 02:05:39,040
Speaker 1: in the end of It's my gut feeling right now,

2374
02:05:39,080 --> 02:05:41,040
Speaker 1: somebody else will be quarterback in that team, not for

2375
02:05:41,240 --> 02:05:44,600
Speaker 1: Jamis Winston next year, Yes, somebody else. Wow, I have

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02:05:44,720 --> 02:05:48,640
Speaker 1: to say, falls, I think Tampa Bay could be a place,

2377
02:05:48,680 --> 02:05:51,400
Speaker 1: but I don't know. I look at quarterback Philip Rivers

2378
02:05:51,440 --> 02:05:54,400
Speaker 1: as more of somebody who can help groom your next quarterback.

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02:05:55,040 --> 02:05:58,120
Speaker 1: So I think then Tampa Bay would in turn need

2380
02:05:58,120 --> 02:06:01,960
Speaker 1: to draft a quarterback coming up, and I don't I

2381
02:06:02,000 --> 02:06:05,120
Speaker 1: don't know if Philip Rivers would be the person to

2382
02:06:05,560 --> 02:06:08,920
Speaker 1: groom James Winston. I think of a rookie coming in

2383
02:06:09,400 --> 02:06:13,080
Speaker 1: and Philip Rivers helping that quarterback, So I say false

2384
02:06:13,120 --> 02:06:15,760
Speaker 1: to that. I haven't really thought much about this yet,

2385
02:06:15,760 --> 02:06:19,240
Speaker 1: since this news is very new, But I don't know.

2386
02:06:19,560 --> 02:06:23,080
Speaker 1: He could be a charger They there's are they going

2387
02:06:23,120 --> 02:06:24,880
Speaker 1: to move on from him? Are they going to franchise him?

2388
02:06:24,920 --> 02:06:27,400
Speaker 1: Who knows? Yeah, it could be. I don't know. That's

2389
02:06:27,440 --> 02:06:28,960
Speaker 1: that's it remains to be seen. But I think it's

2390
02:06:28,960 --> 02:06:30,480
Speaker 1: going to be really intriguing to see what happens to

2391
02:06:30,520 --> 02:06:32,959
Speaker 1: Philip Rivers and the rest of these quarterbacks whose contracts

2392
02:06:33,000 --> 02:06:36,160
Speaker 1: are up. And you know, we've seen a lot of

2393
02:06:36,160 --> 02:06:38,320
Speaker 1: it where you never saw it for years and years

2394
02:06:38,320 --> 02:06:40,160
Speaker 1: and years, you never saw a quarterback come on the

2395
02:06:40,160 --> 02:06:43,480
Speaker 1: open market. Now you had like Kirk Cousins and Alex Smith,

2396
02:06:43,760 --> 02:06:46,240
Speaker 1: and this year it looks like Tom Brady and Philip

2397
02:06:46,320 --> 02:06:50,560
Speaker 1: Rivers and Drew Brees, all these guys may may become available.

2398
02:06:51,120 --> 02:06:54,680
Speaker 1: And it's amazing. It's amazing that those kind of caliber

2399
02:06:54,720 --> 02:06:57,200
Speaker 1: of quarterbacks who have that kind of success behind them

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02:06:57,320 --> 02:06:59,680
Speaker 1: would actually become available. At some point, you're looking at

2401
02:06:59,680 --> 02:07:02,920
Speaker 1: the list of prey're like, huh, what It's amazing, could it?

2402
02:07:03,320 --> 02:07:06,920
Speaker 1: Those guys are always tied up well beyond their production years. Yeah.

2403
02:07:07,160 --> 02:07:11,560
Speaker 1: Number three true or false? Our last true or false?

2404
02:07:12,000 --> 02:07:15,800
Speaker 1: The Saints need to find Drew Brees's replacement with a

2405
02:07:15,880 --> 02:07:21,320
Speaker 1: first round quarterback. True or false? Uh, that means this year,

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02:07:21,360 --> 02:07:23,360
Speaker 1: I guess right. I mean this year they have the

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02:07:23,360 --> 02:07:25,880
Speaker 1: twenty fourth pick, and right now I'm looking at Bucky

2408
02:07:25,920 --> 02:07:30,440
Speaker 1: Brooks's mock draft. They are saying the Saints should take

2409
02:07:30,480 --> 02:07:36,080
Speaker 1: Jordan Love, the quarterback out of Utah State. Yeah. Well,

2410
02:07:36,800 --> 02:07:39,160
Speaker 1: you can name whatever quarterback you want out of Utah State.

2411
02:07:39,200 --> 02:07:42,680
Speaker 1: Ain't gonna be Ok Brees. So I'm gonna say yet,

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02:07:42,720 --> 02:07:44,400
Speaker 1: sooner or later they're gonna have to replace him. If

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02:07:44,400 --> 02:07:46,680
Speaker 1: it's this year, first round, you're I would just go

2414
02:07:46,760 --> 02:07:48,280
Speaker 1: out and say, listen, you are not going to find

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02:07:48,280 --> 02:07:51,080
Speaker 1: a guy as good as Drew Brees anywhere outside the

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02:07:51,160 --> 02:07:54,520
Speaker 1: top three to five picks of the first round. You

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02:07:54,520 --> 02:07:56,800
Speaker 1: will never find a brute Drew Brees outside of that

2418
02:07:56,840 --> 02:08:01,440
Speaker 1: pick in this day and age. So certainly they may

2419
02:08:01,440 --> 02:08:03,960
Speaker 1: find a guy that they can win with long term

2420
02:08:04,480 --> 02:08:06,600
Speaker 1: outside of that, Like, you can find a guy who

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02:08:06,600 --> 02:08:09,120
Speaker 1: can be productive, and I find a guy who can

2422
02:08:09,960 --> 02:08:12,040
Speaker 1: you can build a team around. But you're not going

2423
02:08:12,120 --> 02:08:13,960
Speaker 1: to find a Drew Brees, a guy who throws for

2424
02:08:14,240 --> 02:08:17,240
Speaker 1: who has thrown for five thousand yards five times in

2425
02:08:17,240 --> 02:08:19,840
Speaker 1: his career, five or six times in his career, and

2426
02:08:19,920 --> 02:08:21,840
Speaker 1: he's the only guy to ever do it more than once,

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02:08:22,080 --> 02:08:24,280
Speaker 1: and he's done it five times. You don't find those

2428
02:08:24,320 --> 02:08:28,560
Speaker 1: guys anywhere outside the very top of the draft. So, yeah,

2429
02:08:28,560 --> 02:08:30,760
Speaker 1: they do need to find that guy. I don't think

2430
02:08:30,760 --> 02:08:32,960
Speaker 1: you're going to do it at pick number twenty four. Yeah, exactly,

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02:08:33,000 --> 02:08:35,440
Speaker 1: I agree with that. I say false. I think when

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02:08:35,480 --> 02:08:38,360
Speaker 1: you look at this year's draft and what quarterbacks are

2433
02:08:38,360 --> 02:08:40,360
Speaker 1: in this year's draft, think there are some great ones,

2434
02:08:40,400 --> 02:08:42,440
Speaker 1: But at the twenty fourth pick, I don't think your

2435
02:08:42,480 --> 02:08:44,960
Speaker 1: answer sits at number twenty four with the quarterbacks that

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02:08:45,000 --> 02:08:47,800
Speaker 1: will already be gone by that time. I think you've

2437
02:08:47,800 --> 02:08:50,280
Speaker 1: got to get a top five guy when you're talking

2438
02:08:50,280 --> 02:08:53,400
Speaker 1: about quarterbacks to replace Drew Brees, and I think Drew

2439
02:08:53,400 --> 02:08:55,520
Speaker 1: Brees needs to be there to coach this guy up.

2440
02:08:55,960 --> 02:08:58,080
Speaker 1: I think Drew Brees still has a few more years

2441
02:08:58,120 --> 02:09:00,520
Speaker 1: in him. I hope he does, and he's still a

2442
02:09:00,600 --> 02:09:03,360
Speaker 1: very successful quarterback and can go on and do some

2443
02:09:03,640 --> 02:09:05,720
Speaker 1: great things. With the Saints and the years to come,

2444
02:09:05,800 --> 02:09:08,360
Speaker 1: just based off of the roster they have and what

2445
02:09:08,400 --> 02:09:11,680
Speaker 1: he was able to do with that team. This year's draft,

2446
02:09:11,760 --> 02:09:13,600
Speaker 1: I don't think so. In the years to come, the

2447
02:09:13,640 --> 02:09:16,160
Speaker 1: Saints are definitely maybe gonna want to bounce on that,

2448
02:09:16,240 --> 02:09:19,280
Speaker 1: jump on that. But also if they continue to play

2449
02:09:19,320 --> 02:09:22,040
Speaker 1: so great, we're not sure when they'll pick in the

2450
02:09:22,080 --> 02:09:24,480
Speaker 1: first round in the next few years unless they get

2451
02:09:24,520 --> 02:09:27,720
Speaker 1: a trade or something like that. So I agree, So

2452
02:09:28,600 --> 02:09:32,840
Speaker 1: they got to find him somewhere. We'll see, but i'd

2453
02:09:32,840 --> 02:09:34,560
Speaker 1: pick number twenty four the first round. I don't think

2454
02:09:34,560 --> 02:09:37,040
Speaker 1: they're gonna get it done this year. Yeah, Jordan, love

2455
02:09:37,320 --> 02:09:41,640
Speaker 1: you tossed a Jordan. It's great. Who knows, he may

2456
02:09:41,680 --> 02:09:44,000
Speaker 1: be a great guy. I hate to go to the

2457
02:09:44,000 --> 02:09:47,720
Speaker 1: combine and do some crazy things, but at this point

2458
02:09:47,760 --> 02:09:50,520
Speaker 1: in history, this moment of this day, No, I just

2459
02:09:50,520 --> 02:09:52,400
Speaker 1: don't know. So it's got to be in the first

2460
02:09:52,400 --> 02:09:54,600
Speaker 1: first five. Would you do a number like first seven,

2461
02:09:54,680 --> 02:10:01,240
Speaker 1: first five, verse three, first one, first one maybe overall year? Yeah, yeah,

2462
02:10:02,080 --> 02:10:04,520
Speaker 1: you gotta trade up. You gotta if you're gonna get

2463
02:10:04,560 --> 02:10:07,240
Speaker 1: one of those guys, you gotta trade up or stink

2464
02:10:07,280 --> 02:10:09,240
Speaker 1: for a year and get this next, Trevor Lawrence coming

2465
02:10:09,240 --> 02:10:14,280
Speaker 1: out next year. Gosh, she's a great quarterback. Oh Turner Lawrence,

2466
02:10:14,360 --> 02:10:17,240
Speaker 1: he'll begin in the NFL too. All right, That is

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Speaker 1: it for true False. We're gonna take a break. But

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Speaker 1: when we come back, we're gonna wrap the show up

2469
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Speaker 1: and talk about what we learned today, because we learned

2470
02:10:24,400 --> 02:10:41,360
Speaker 1: a lot of things today. See welcome back into One

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Speaker 1: Bill's Live. From One Bill's Drive. It's time for what

2472
02:10:43,840 --> 02:10:47,160
Speaker 1: have we learned today? We had Sam Monsanan. He is

2473
02:10:47,160 --> 02:10:50,480
Speaker 1: the lead analyst for PF and he had a lot

2474
02:10:50,520 --> 02:10:53,960
Speaker 1: to say on what sets this Super Bowl. The team's

2475
02:10:53,960 --> 02:10:58,760
Speaker 1: in it apart from the rest of the NFL. They're

2476
02:10:58,800 --> 02:11:01,400
Speaker 1: doing all of the things is that the data points

2477
02:11:01,400 --> 02:11:04,480
Speaker 1: in the analytics are suggesting are smart ways to run offense.

2478
02:11:04,520 --> 02:11:09,080
Speaker 1: So they both run a ton of motion, they both

2479
02:11:09,160 --> 02:11:10,960
Speaker 1: run a ton of play action, they both do all

2480
02:11:11,000 --> 02:11:14,120
Speaker 1: of these things that the league is trending towards right now.

2481
02:11:14,440 --> 02:11:17,720
Speaker 1: That the pre snap motion in particular, you're seeing teams

2482
02:11:18,000 --> 02:11:21,160
Speaker 1: to use pre snap motion to manipulate defenses and move

2483
02:11:21,200 --> 02:11:24,280
Speaker 1: around individual players and kind of get them out of

2484
02:11:24,360 --> 02:11:26,800
Speaker 1: throwing landings that they want to use later in the

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02:11:26,840 --> 02:11:30,120
Speaker 1: play and at forty nine Ers in particular are excellent

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02:11:30,240 --> 02:11:32,040
Speaker 1: that that's why they're able to target the middle of

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02:11:32,280 --> 02:11:34,520
Speaker 1: the field so well. But the Chiefs are great at

2488
02:11:34,560 --> 02:11:37,200
Speaker 1: as well. You know, Andy Reid and Kyle Shanahan are

2489
02:11:37,240 --> 02:11:39,720
Speaker 1: two of the best offensive minds in the game, and

2490
02:11:39,840 --> 02:11:41,640
Speaker 1: it's it's great to see a Super Blowl where they

2491
02:11:41,640 --> 02:11:44,840
Speaker 1: both go at it. That was what we have learned.

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Speaker 1: Brought to you by Skyworks. Skyworks, the official construction equipment

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02:11:48,320 --> 02:11:53,040
Speaker 1: rental company of the Buffalo Bills. So Super Bowl fifty

2494
02:11:53,040 --> 02:11:57,720
Speaker 1: four is approaching really great teams. What do you gotta

2495
02:11:57,720 --> 02:11:58,760
Speaker 1: go on the rest of it? If you're coming back

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02:11:58,800 --> 02:12:02,280
Speaker 1: in here, I'm coming back here on Friday, Friday, yea

2497
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Speaker 1: as I like to call at Hey. Uh, Chris Brown

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02:12:06,440 --> 02:12:08,440
Speaker 1: is going to co host tomorrow. Field Yates will be

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02:12:08,480 --> 02:12:11,920
Speaker 1: on tomorrow, uh stacked show. We'll have Greg co Sell

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02:12:12,040 --> 02:12:16,760
Speaker 1: on on Friday, our good friend Greg Um. Yeah. Hanging

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Speaker 1: out the rest of the week, you know, just not

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02:12:18,200 --> 02:12:21,680
Speaker 1: working Jkats forever. This isn't for everybody, just for our

2503
02:12:21,680 --> 02:12:24,560
Speaker 1: true faithful listeners. We're thinking about going to the combine

2504
02:12:24,560 --> 02:12:26,880
Speaker 1: though we're taking a show down. We're thinking about it right,

2505
02:12:26,920 --> 02:12:30,320
Speaker 1: thinking about thinking about it right, we're all I gotta

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02:12:30,400 --> 02:12:32,640
Speaker 1: check my schedule for something. If actually I don't know

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02:12:32,640 --> 02:12:35,160
Speaker 1: if it's actually, you know, worth it economically for us

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02:12:35,200 --> 02:12:38,880
Speaker 1: to take the entire circus down to Indianapolis for three

2509
02:12:38,960 --> 02:12:42,560
Speaker 1: or four days, but we may what do you think,

2510
02:12:42,600 --> 02:12:45,600
Speaker 1: like fifty fifty of us should go? Well, listen, I

2511
02:12:45,640 --> 02:12:47,240
Speaker 1: don't know. I think if we're gonna go, well, let's

2512
02:12:47,280 --> 02:12:49,560
Speaker 1: just go, you know, let's load up in the camper

2513
02:12:49,640 --> 02:12:51,800
Speaker 1: and you know, bring it cooler, and let's go. Who's

2514
02:12:51,840 --> 02:12:55,600
Speaker 1: got the better forty yard dash? You or me at

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02:12:55,640 --> 02:12:58,680
Speaker 1: this point in history? Five vote you? I don't think

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Speaker 1: I could vote. Is your best dash? My best one ever?

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Speaker 1: The best one ever? Do you know? I was a

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Speaker 1: four three three? Oh dang that was Yeah, that was

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Speaker 1: forty years ago. You can still do it. I couldn't

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Speaker 1: do it. I could. What do you think? What do

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Speaker 1: you think what you would be now? Sixty five? Sixty five? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I would just hope by hitting the five point five

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Speaker 1: six point five probably. I don't know that. I seriously

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Speaker 1: do not know that I could survive a forty yard dash. Right,

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Speaker 1: whether or not we go, we are doing a forty

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Speaker 1: yard dask and my ham I know, I know, I

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Speaker 1: would hurt myself bad if we were in a forty

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Speaker 1: yard dash and something happened to me. I'm blaming you. No,

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Speaker 1: it's not my fault. It's not my fault. That's it

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Speaker 1: for us. One Bills Live from One Bill's Drive, presented

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Speaker 1: by kalidah Hell. Thank you to our friends George Jeff Thomas,

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Speaker 1: Kelly JJ, Kevin James, and our producer Jay Harris for

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Speaker 1: making the show run so smoothly. We appreciate you and

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Speaker 1: we'll see you tomorrow. Bel