1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,400 Speaker 1: You crave with the salter stats we know you want 2 00:00:02,440 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 1: in twelve flavor fool ounces one hundred calories, zero gram 3 00:00:05,800 --> 00:00:08,960 Speaker 1: sugar and two grams carbs. Explore the loudest flavors with 4 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:11,280 Speaker 1: bud Light salts are hearts. All right, here we go. 5 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 1: Welcome to the NFL Scouting Combine. I'm Dale Lolly here 6 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 1: at the Combine at the Indianapolis Convention Center. We will 7 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:35,199 Speaker 1: be doing shows here all week on SNR and then 8 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:40,480 Speaker 1: some will be SNA will cast on ESPN as well. Um, 9 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:42,159 Speaker 1: I don't know who's on with me right now. Yeah, 10 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:43,920 Speaker 1: I'm not sure. I don't see you and I okay, 11 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 1: there we go. We've got We've got Mr Williams as 12 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:49,879 Speaker 1: well to carry duel action in the building. He'll be 13 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 1: jumping on here at from time to time as well. 14 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 1: We got we just got a cast of of well five, 15 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 1: um not dozens. Hello, fellows. That's a pretty good crew 16 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 1: we got here. This it back come ow. I'm scheduled 17 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:05,319 Speaker 1: for two I think, but it's a strange day. And 18 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 1: I'll sit here and chat with you guys. And I 19 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:09,480 Speaker 1: think Kevin is starting up at the podium. Kevin starting 20 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:11,680 Speaker 1: starting up at podium and I know, I believe Max 21 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:14,760 Speaker 1: is doing a Steelers TV interview with him afterwards. We 22 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 1: will to let all of our listeners know on s 23 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 1: n R. Kevin Colbert will join us here shortly within 24 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:21,960 Speaker 1: the next within the next hour or two, I would say, 25 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:24,399 Speaker 1: probably close to two o'clock because he's got some other 26 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:27,679 Speaker 1: commitments that he has to go do. Okay, Dale, I 27 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:29,679 Speaker 1: did want to remind everybody as well before you get 28 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 1: off and running here, that our combine coverage is presented 29 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:34,840 Speaker 1: by First National Bank. Let's get started, member f D 30 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 1: I C there you go. Uh, lots of stuff here. 31 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 1: We're glad to be back at the calm. Absolutely didn't 32 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:44,120 Speaker 1: have one last year. And and uh here though, yeah, 33 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 1: it's a little more muted, I think, um, but until 34 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 1: wee get going, until we get going west to west 35 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 1: gets round up here. But there's no none of the 36 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 1: fan interaction stuff they had here before. But it looks 37 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 1: like the bench for us is set up for you 38 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:00,160 Speaker 1: know what'll be happening today. But they'll be right near 39 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 1: us too. You'll hear that in the background all week. 40 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 1: And he's spaced out the tables a little bit more, 41 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 1: but you know it's the same view. Yeah, so good stuff. 42 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 1: Dale Is is gonna pop up real quick for for 43 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 1: Kevin Colbert as well, So it'll just be me and you, 44 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 1: Mr Williams. I appreciate you hanging up. I appreciate you 45 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:17,640 Speaker 1: hanging here with me. Yeah, I mean, am I that bad? 46 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:22,360 Speaker 1: We're just running away from there bailing on me here? 47 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 1: But you're right, I'm excited to be back here. You know, 48 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:28,240 Speaker 1: we had a COVID hiatus last year. We did get 49 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:31,799 Speaker 1: the combine in just a couple of weeks before. Um, 50 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:34,680 Speaker 1: the world changed and it it still has changed now 51 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 1: two years later, but we are we are excited to 52 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:38,639 Speaker 1: be here. It's crazy along those lines. I mean, we 53 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:40,799 Speaker 1: we all went out to a great dinner last night 54 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:42,800 Speaker 1: and Kevin is actually up at the pod you and 55 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:45,239 Speaker 1: see him on one of these monitors, so that that's 56 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 1: rolling along as we speak. Um, And the first time 57 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 1: I think I heard the word COVID was leaving here 58 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:54,920 Speaker 1: two years ago. You know, Like it's amazing how the 59 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 1: world's changed. And exactly two years basically, and you know, 60 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:00,519 Speaker 1: we've been rolling along with coverage and I'm just like 61 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:03,079 Speaker 1: to be back. Yeah, me as well too. It's it's 62 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:04,920 Speaker 1: exciting to be back here. We were right by the 63 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 1: bench press area. Like Matt mentioned, not as much hands 64 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 1: on fan experienced stuff as they've had in years of 65 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 1: past as we are now in the COVID times, but 66 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 1: still radio row, still bench press area. If you've been 67 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:19,399 Speaker 1: out to the Combine before, if you've been here in Indianapolis, 68 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 1: we are in the same spot as always. If you 69 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 1: want to, uh say hello and and and wave at 70 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 1: us here. Um, if you're coming on down to check 71 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:28,920 Speaker 1: out all the action, um, there will be you know, 72 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:30,919 Speaker 1: as you mentioned, it's it's kind of muted. It's kind 73 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 1: of of but but you'll hear that. That will change, 74 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 1: you know when when the bench press is going behind us, 75 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 1: when some of the things are going on, the energy 76 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 1: the crowd, you'll hear all that noise, you'll feel it. 77 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 1: And we are excited to be here once again inside 78 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 1: the Indianapolis Convention Center, right next to Lucas Oil Stadium. 79 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 1: Start to see a lot more familiar faces and yeah, 80 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 1: you know, brand name people that you would know and 81 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 1: head coaches and whatnot. There's you know, Coach Peterson's right 82 00:03:57,720 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 1: next with us, the Jacksonville Um. You know, so everyone 83 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 1: is starting to get in the groove. But it's it's 84 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 1: like the top of the first inning right now, though, 85 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 1: I mean it's very very That's a good way to 86 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 1: put it in. The lights aren't even on, not yet. 87 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 1: I know they've only got like half the lights on it. 88 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 1: And I kind of like the ambiance though it works, 89 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 1: you know, Matt, let me ask you this. Um, we 90 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 1: are back here for the first time since what are 91 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 1: you most excited about this week? Let's start there, just 92 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:22,839 Speaker 1: big picture. I think you have to start with the quarterbacks, 93 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:25,600 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And I think a lot 94 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 1: of people look at the combine and think, well, what's that? 95 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:31,360 Speaker 1: Why is that so important for the quarterbacks? And I'm 96 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 1: not saying it's the end all be all, And frankly, 97 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:36,159 Speaker 1: I don't care what Malik Willis runs. He's really fast 98 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 1: and I know it, you know, I mean, I'm you're 99 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 1: sure if he will run. But I do think there's 100 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:43,720 Speaker 1: a lot of value to just watching the I call 101 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 1: an assembly line scouting, you know, just this guy throw, 102 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 1: then this guy throw, then this guy throw, just all 103 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:50,840 Speaker 1: right in a row, you know, as opposed to him. 104 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 1: I remember watching him a couple of weeks ago, but 105 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 1: it was windy and you know, yeah, so those type 106 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:56,920 Speaker 1: of things, just you know, putting them next to each 107 00:04:56,960 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 1: other doing exact same things I think has an awful 108 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 1: out of value. And in this quarterback class in general. 109 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:05,360 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm pointing any secrets out here hasn't quite 110 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 1: sorted itself out yet either, you know. I mean, I'm 111 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 1: sure my rankings are changed, My thoughts on these guys 112 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 1: will change a week from now than they do now. 113 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 1: So and it's of course supporting to the Steelers than 114 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:17,600 Speaker 1: ever I think for for those two reasons that you 115 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 1: just hit on. I mean, listen, um um, I'm not naive. 116 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 1: The quarterbacks are usually topic number one of these things 117 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 1: every single year, right that they're They're the prom kings, 118 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 1: They're the ones that drive the bus, it's the ones 119 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 1: that stir the drink all that, but not the team 120 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 1: we work for, the team we worked for the last 121 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:35,839 Speaker 1: eighteen years. So that's why that's where I was going. Actually, 122 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 1: the two things that I think make quarterbacks from our 123 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 1: s n r R. Pittsburgh Steelers standpoint more interesting, more 124 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:45,599 Speaker 1: intriguing than usual is the fact that you know, for 125 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 1: the first time in eighteen years, you don't know who 126 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 1: your QB one is going to be. Right. And the 127 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 1: second part of that is the verdict is out. The 128 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 1: jury is still out on a lot of these guys. 129 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 1: You know, there's there's not the Trevor Lawrence, there's not 130 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 1: the Joe Burrow, there's not the Kyler Murray. Um. I mean, 131 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 1: I could argue and I may change on this that 132 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:08,479 Speaker 1: at least four and maybe five, including mac Jones, of 133 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 1: last year's class, I would ahead of every quarterback in 134 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 1: this year's class, not including their NFL tape, like what 135 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 1: they came out looking like as a prospect. And you know, 136 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:19,839 Speaker 1: so that in itself I think is really interesting. And 137 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 1: he touched on the Steelers and Neat like I get 138 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 1: a kick out of it. In Dale and I talked 139 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:25,360 Speaker 1: about all the time, like all these people are like 140 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:27,839 Speaker 1: Steelers would never trade up for a quarterback, or they 141 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 1: would never trade three first round picks for Watson or Wilson, 142 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 1: or they would never do this. I'm like, how do 143 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:35,359 Speaker 1: you have any clue what the Steelers would do to 144 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:38,720 Speaker 1: find the next quarterback? It's been two decades. You have 145 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:41,359 Speaker 1: been the situation for a long time, and they have 146 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 1: I think it's fair to say, you know, in recent years, Dale, 147 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 1: they've moved not completely off of but they've they've started 148 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:52,720 Speaker 1: a little different ways of operating in the sense of, well, 149 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 1: they're not going to trade a first round draft pick 150 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 1: to go and get Maka Fitzpatrick, you know, trading they 151 00:06:56,880 --> 00:07:00,279 Speaker 1: traded up. They made the trade for make fit Patrien 152 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:03,160 Speaker 1: free agency. Yeah, they've they've done. They haven't a quarterback need, right, 153 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 1: I mean, I mean it's different than in a linebacker 154 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:08,040 Speaker 1: need or need. You know. I do think it's interesting, guys, 155 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 1: you know, and I look at this way, if if 156 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 1: you think back the last time a quarterback wasn't a 157 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 1: slam duck number one overall pick, I would say that 158 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 1: Miles Garrett and he was a more special prospect than 159 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 1: Neil or Hutchinson. Are the guys that are fighting. So 160 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 1: if you if you look at that draft and remember 161 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:30,119 Speaker 1: back to it, um nobody knew like Mits Robinsky was 162 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 1: was the number one for first quarterback tape, but not consensus. 163 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 1: But there was no consensus. There was real There was 164 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 1: no real consensus on any of those guys. None of 165 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 1: them were considered slam dunk stars. For people don't remember, 166 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 1: that's Watson the ma homes and they went and Watson 167 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 1: went tent and Homes went tenth and Watson went twelve. Yes, 168 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 1: and it's interesting to me, I keep interrupted hundred times already. 169 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 1: Both those teams were playoff teams that traded up for 170 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 1: them too, you know, I mean Steelers are a playoff 171 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 1: team that could trade it. I mean, who knows. Every 172 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 1: time somebody mentions to me, well, I wouldn't. I wouldn't 173 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 1: go out of my way to get any quarter back 174 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 1: in this draft because there's no you know, there's no 175 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 1: there's no slam dunks. I'm like, Holmes wasn't a slam 176 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 1: Dunck Homes was far from a slam Watson wasn't a 177 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 1: slam dun. Josh Allen wasn't a slam Yeah. I mean 178 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 1: those guys have turned out to be pretty good players 179 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 1: in that class. I'd love to bring up after the 180 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 1: fact that I was one of the few that had 181 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 1: my Homes number one. Why Watson like fifth? If you're 182 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 1: I like watching a lot more than you did. I 183 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 1: was worried about it, Like he doesn't have that big arm. 184 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 1: He's doing a lot of picks of Clemson, and I thought, 185 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 1: my Homes he's my favorite. But it's gonna be a 186 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 1: wild ride. I mean, he didn't know when he was 187 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 1: gonna be and and at that point, if you remember, 188 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:37,559 Speaker 1: there were still a lot of that Well, these big 189 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:40,719 Speaker 1: twelve quarterbacks have never worked out. The Oklahoma quarterbacks and 190 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 1: the guys that were playing that spread offense never worked out. 191 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 1: Now nobody has an issue taking those guys right, all 192 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 1: of a sudden, it's all, hey, those guys are pretty good, 193 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 1: and it seems like it wasn't that long ago. But athleticism, 194 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 1: it wasn't even his value then as much as it 195 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 1: is now, you know what I mean, like the way 196 00:08:57,360 --> 00:08:59,440 Speaker 1: Watson moves and Homes moves. But they had a lot 197 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:02,840 Speaker 1: of questions around those guys. If you look at that draft, 198 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:05,960 Speaker 1: I've got it here. Garrett went for a Strabisky second, 199 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 1: and that was kind of a surprise that Rabisky went 200 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 1: second because the Bears traded from three to two. Right, 201 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:15,320 Speaker 1: Solomon Thomas goes third, San Francisco, San Francisco. Not a 202 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:21,320 Speaker 1: great player, he's okay. Third overall pick Leonard four net fourth, 203 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 1: Corey Davis went fifth. That was, you know, kind of that. 204 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:30,199 Speaker 1: That was the year three receivers went none of Jamal 205 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:34,440 Speaker 1: Jamal Adams went sixth. Well, he's already been traded. Mike 206 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 1: Williams went seventh, he was the second receiver. Then Christian 207 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:41,679 Speaker 1: McCaffrey at eight. Two running backs in the top ten. 208 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 1: That doesn't happen anymore either. Uh. Then you had that 209 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 1: he would never go forth in this right, you know, 210 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:50,560 Speaker 1: John Ross went ninth, then Mahomes that trade up, Kansas 211 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 1: City traded up. Then you have Marshawn Lattimore. Then you 212 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 1: had to Shawn Watson, and then you didn't have another 213 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 1: quarterback taken in the first round. M okay that was 214 00:09:59,840 --> 00:10:04,319 Speaker 1: in until the next quarterback taken was DeShawn Kaiser by 215 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 1: Cleveland at which is ironically where the Steelers are picking 216 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:10,960 Speaker 1: in the second round this year. Interested um, and DeShawn 217 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 1: Kaiser wasn't no no. I mean I actually liked him 218 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 1: a little bit coming out of school, and he didn't 219 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 1: work out at all. I mean, that poor guy got 220 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 1: jerked around like craziest. The fifth quarterback taken that year 221 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 1: was Davis Webb at seven by the Giants. We'll get 222 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:32,720 Speaker 1: five quarterbacks taken this year before pick eight seven. Agreed. 223 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 1: I'm saying. I'm saying, but I don't know that any 224 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:40,480 Speaker 1: will go three, eleven, ten, twelve. You know, two ten twelve, 225 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 1: two ten twelve, Right, Okay, now it won't be it 226 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 1: won't be that, but I'll bet you it's like eleven, 227 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 1: no worse than eleven. I think when you start talking 228 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 1: in Denver, Washington neighborhood and maybe even Carolina at six, 229 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 1: some of those teams a little bit little addressed the 230 00:10:56,840 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 1: quarterback position before the draft, and that's that's what's gonna 231 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 1: change everything. Like everything that we talk about here this 232 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 1: week is going to change dramatically in two weeks when 233 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 1: free agency opens. Like every mock draft we've done or read, 234 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:14,079 Speaker 1: you know, I mean, it's gonna change drastically if Russell 235 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 1: Wilson's on a Seahawk anymore, or you know whatever. You know, 236 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers isn't a packer, right, and I mean there's 237 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:21,319 Speaker 1: gonna be a lot of quarterback movis. Let me ask 238 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:23,439 Speaker 1: you guys this, what would you think is more likely 239 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 1: Steelers trade up from twenty to take a quarterback or 240 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 1: they take one at pick fifty two in the second 241 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 1: round A A. But I also think that it's more 242 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 1: likely that they address it in free agency as well. 243 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 1: And then that's again that's one of those in the 244 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:39,840 Speaker 1: next couple of weeks we could have the answer. Because 245 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 1: then the interesting thing about this free agency class, you 246 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 1: don't typically see guys with high pedigrees, right who are 247 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:51,719 Speaker 1: still young get the free agency like we're seeing this year. 248 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:54,199 Speaker 1: Two or three of them, depending what you feel about Mariota. 249 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 1: But I think all three of those guys, I mean, 250 00:11:56,640 --> 00:11:59,960 Speaker 1: even Teddy, even a Teddy Bridgewater is a pedigree guys 251 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 1: and the starter and he's still I mean, these are 252 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 1: guys that that that have something of a track record. 253 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 1: They don't typically get the free agency. No, I really 254 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 1: think one of the three of Trabisky, Mariotta, and Winston 255 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:16,320 Speaker 1: will hit and maybe not live up the top two 256 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:18,560 Speaker 1: overall draft picks standards, but it's gonna be a good 257 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 1: football player. It could be a situation. And I know 258 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 1: Ryan tanney Hill is not a great quarterback, but the 259 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 1: change scener change his career. The change of scenery change 260 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:29,600 Speaker 1: his career. He's you know, he's he's had the Titans 261 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 1: in position, um you know, to do He's put up 262 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:37,560 Speaker 1: some serious absolutely, you know, so you know, if you 263 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:42,720 Speaker 1: can get something like that, um, you know that to 264 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:44,679 Speaker 1: me that the Tanny Hills and they I think they 265 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 1: traded a fourth round pick for him, maybe a fifth. 266 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:50,439 Speaker 1: I mean that that's a success story. Yeah, that's a 267 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 1: huge win for the type you know, and you didn't again, 268 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:54,839 Speaker 1: you didn't spend you know, yes, they had spent the 269 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 1: second overall pick on on Yota a few years before that. 270 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 1: But you finally get you got a orderback that you 271 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:04,720 Speaker 1: could start. You know, he wasn't expensive for you know 272 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 1: reasons and all th things too, and he's a former 273 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 1: first round pick sort of washed out a little. So 274 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:10,560 Speaker 1: there's a lot of different ways to do this. But 275 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:13,840 Speaker 1: West answer your original question, I just think fifty two's 276 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 1: a little bit of quarterback no man's land. You know, 277 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 1: the ones you're gonna they're worth it will be probably 278 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 1: gone and at that point, give me a tackle or 279 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:24,439 Speaker 1: you know, a corner or whatever. You know what I mean. 280 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 1: I just think it's that's you're not gonna find the 281 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:30,440 Speaker 1: answer there probably of those three that you just mentioned, Mariotta, Trabiski, 282 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:33,560 Speaker 1: Jamis Winston, which one would you like most for the Steelers? 283 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 1: Winston is my favorite, I mean because we saw him 284 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:40,480 Speaker 1: as a starter last year and it was a small 285 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 1: sample size because he got hurt. I think it was 286 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:44,199 Speaker 1: six or seven games, but he played really, really well. 287 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:48,840 Speaker 1: No receivers. Um, Mariotta would be third for me. I'm 288 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 1: starting to warm up. That's a brisky a little bit, 289 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 1: you know. I think that year in Buffalo have been 290 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 1: really I know, we used to joke about him a 291 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:56,559 Speaker 1: little bit and I didn't love him as a bear, 292 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 1: and I didn't like I'm coming on school that much. 293 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 1: But you know, I think at his skill set is 294 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 1: what they're looking for in terms of the mobility. He's 295 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:10,679 Speaker 1: a very athletic guy, a very athletic quarterback. He can 296 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 1: make the throws. Is does he have some off you know, 297 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:17,199 Speaker 1: you know, his his connection is off every once in 298 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:20,240 Speaker 1: a while. Yeah, but so is Josh Allen. Right, you 299 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 1: know you'll get those kind of throws, but you also 300 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 1: get the wild place. Yeah. I think he's everyone's a 301 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 1: lesser version of Josh Allen, but he's that mold of player. 302 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 1: And I mentioned, you know, reference that year he spent 303 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 1: in Buffalo, and Winston did the same thing. Mario Dia 304 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 1: did the same thing where they took a step back, 305 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:39,320 Speaker 1: took very small contract, went to a really good situation 306 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 1: in New Orleans and Buffalo in particular, with quarterback gurus, 307 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 1: no pressure. I can sit here and learn from Breeze 308 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 1: and Alan and Dave Ball and Peyton and all these guys. 309 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 1: And I think that's a mature move. And everyone talks 310 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 1: about Drobiskie like, man, we loved them here in Buffalo, 311 00:14:55,520 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 1: and all those things are good, and he deserved a 312 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 1: second chance. He's still young, and he was in bad 313 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 1: spot with the pairs too. Yeah, so he's still still 314 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 1: take the playoffs. He's been to a Pro Bowl. He 315 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 1: has that experience in his back pocket. Now he now 316 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 1: has the experience of of watching what Alan did in Buffalo, 317 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 1: and I think that that could benefit him dramatically. And 318 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 1: I don't think you'd have to overpay to get him. 319 00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:22,239 Speaker 1: See That's what I'm starting to wonder now, is obviously 320 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:24,720 Speaker 1: three of us aren't the first one who thought about 321 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 1: signing Winston, Mariota or Travesty as an answer here and 322 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 1: not so great quarterback rookie class. And those guys all 323 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 1: are playing on very favorable contracts. I'm curious what the 324 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 1: bidding is going to be, like, you know, I mean, 325 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:42,240 Speaker 1: are they gonna be twenty million guys? I mean, right now, 326 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 1: they're like four and five million guys. I mean they're 327 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 1: really low that you have to weigh in this, Like, 328 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 1: you know, I think if you're the Steelers and you 329 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 1: want to go that route, at least explore that route 330 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 1: you have in your mind. However, there's a cut off. 331 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 1: We won't go above this number. If it goes above 332 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 1: that number, Okay, well we're gonna have to live somewhere fish. Yeah, 333 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 1: I hear you. And what's funny is I mean I 334 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:10,080 Speaker 1: mentioned a guy like Trabisky takes a step back, learns 335 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 1: and it goes in a good situation. But he may 336 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 1: benefit financially tremendously. I mean, if he's making four or 337 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:18,520 Speaker 1: five now, he put nothing on tape to say, oh wow, 338 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:20,200 Speaker 1: he's so much better than he was a year ago. 339 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 1: But all of a sudden, there's more chairs in the 340 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:24,600 Speaker 1: musical chair. And I know you've you've you've said, you 341 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 1: know the rumors that he's going to go to the Giants. 342 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:28,480 Speaker 1: I don't know that it linked up the day Ball 343 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:32,720 Speaker 1: and I get that that link for that reason compete 344 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 1: with Jones and you know, but I don't know he's 345 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 1: gonna like if you're him, you're like, okay, I I 346 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 1: took the step back. I want to go somewhere to Carolina. 347 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:44,120 Speaker 1: I want to go somewhere where I could start. Yeah, right, 348 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 1: And there's a lot of those seats. I mean, Indie 349 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 1: might be opened, Tampa's open all of a sudden, now, Washington, 350 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 1: I mean there's plenty Orleans even with you know, yeah, 351 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 1: I mean there's a lot of situations right now all 352 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 1: around the NFL that teams need a quarterback. This this 353 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 1: might be as many teams in the market for a 354 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:06,640 Speaker 1: potential quarterback. If you remember some time where there's actually holes, yeah, 355 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:09,359 Speaker 1: you have to Hall of famers retire. I mean that 356 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:12,240 Speaker 1: does happened every year and then some guys got hurt 357 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:16,399 Speaker 1: or Donald didn't work out or when Yeah, right, right, 358 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:18,480 Speaker 1: right now, you're probably right now, and you know what 359 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:20,359 Speaker 1: that brings up an interesting point. I want to continue 360 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:21,960 Speaker 1: with that. I got a question for you as it 361 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:25,920 Speaker 1: relates to the quarterback market and the Steelers being part 362 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 1: of that, and we'll do that. We come back on 363 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 1: the other side of that's all right with you, guys. 364 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:34,200 Speaker 1: It is our Combine two coverage here live at the 365 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:38,480 Speaker 1: Indianapolis Convention Center. 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Let's get started, member 375 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 1: f d I C more quarterback conversation. On the other side, 376 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 1: you're listening to Centre live from Indianapolis. This is continuing 377 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:29,639 Speaker 1: cover each NFL combine on Steelers Nation Radio. Our combine 378 00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:32,320 Speaker 1: coverage is presented by First National Bank. Let's get started, 379 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:35,680 Speaker 1: member f d I, CE, Wesley Jeueler, Matt Williamson, Dale 380 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 1: Lally with you here back again at the Convention Center 381 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:41,200 Speaker 1: in Indianapolis with the Holy Triumvirate here. It's like this 382 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:49,119 Speaker 1: is like having Rush on the air. I'll take it. 383 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 1: I was hoping I was gonna be drumming, but you know, 384 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:55,360 Speaker 1: I'll take it. Absolutely. We will hear from Kevin Colbert 385 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:57,880 Speaker 1: momentarily he will join us next hour of the show. 386 00:18:58,119 --> 00:19:00,240 Speaker 1: Most likely we'll hear what he just had to say 387 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 1: for his annual uh Combine press conference here in a 388 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:07,320 Speaker 1: few minutes. Gentlemen, though, the question that I teased for 389 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:09,920 Speaker 1: you before we went to you know, we're talking about 390 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 1: quarterbacks in the first segment. For those who might have 391 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:15,280 Speaker 1: missed it or joined us late, you mentioned Dale how 392 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:17,680 Speaker 1: it feels like there's more teams that are searching for 393 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 1: their their QB one for their next quarterback than we've 394 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:24,960 Speaker 1: had in a long time. Do you think if you're 395 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 1: sitting there operating as the Steelers, does that change your 396 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 1: process at all? Or you may be less willing to 397 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:33,680 Speaker 1: try and push those chips to the center of the 398 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:35,399 Speaker 1: table because you know what the cost is gonna be 399 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:38,159 Speaker 1: with so many teams in that market. I think you 400 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:42,200 Speaker 1: have to you, as I mentioned before, like you have 401 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:43,879 Speaker 1: to have if you're going to go into free agency, 402 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:45,920 Speaker 1: you have to have a set number in your head 403 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:49,680 Speaker 1: that you won't go above. The same thing goes with 404 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 1: with trading. The trading and draft. You have to have 405 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 1: your limits and you have to do It's almost like 406 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 1: playing a game of poker here that you have to 407 00:19:57,160 --> 00:20:00,159 Speaker 1: know what your limits are, how much you're willing to 408 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:03,240 Speaker 1: go with. Um. You know you have Mason Rudolph. You 409 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 1: know you have Dwayne Haskins in hand. Um. I believe 410 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 1: them when they you know, when Kevin Corport says, we're 411 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 1: you know, we like Kevin, we like Mason Rudolph, we 412 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 1: like Dwayne Haskins. Maybe I'm being naive here, but I 413 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:18,240 Speaker 1: believe them. I like a lot of the stuff that 414 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 1: I've seen from Mason Rudolph. Um, you know, so there, 415 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 1: there's there's some stuff there. I'm you know, the people 416 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:27,640 Speaker 1: who have uh and I say this all the time 417 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:31,320 Speaker 1: a lot of times, UM, fans will make up their 418 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 1: mind about a player early on, and that guy can 419 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:38,440 Speaker 1: never get any better. He's never allowed to get any better. Yeah, 420 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 1: bud Dupree, we could never get any better. People could 421 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 1: Terrell Edvans could never get any better, and then when 422 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:47,160 Speaker 1: they do, they're a little slower to come around. Eventually 423 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:51,399 Speaker 1: they do come around. Um, you know, I you know again, 424 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:53,920 Speaker 1: I was early on the bud Dupree. I'm like, look, 425 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 1: I'm seeing this guy be effective as an edge, setting 426 00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:00,200 Speaker 1: the edge and doing some of the things this acts 427 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:03,119 Speaker 1: aren't there yet. But but you could see that the 428 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:07,159 Speaker 1: you know him taking those steps. Um, you know, and 429 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 1: I've seen more of Mason Rudolph in practices, and so 430 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:13,119 Speaker 1: I understand that that that I've seen more than the 431 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:15,639 Speaker 1: averagean and most of the most of what fans have 432 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:18,760 Speaker 1: seen of Mason Rudolph was in twenty when he was 433 00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:22,159 Speaker 1: making his first run through the league. Have had a 434 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:23,840 Speaker 1: lot of things happened to him now, a lot of 435 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 1: things very much so. Um So I get you know, 436 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:29,760 Speaker 1: some of the trepidation there with Mason Rudolph is he 437 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:34,359 Speaker 1: uh you know, the second coming of Josh Allen will 438 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:36,960 Speaker 1: use that name again? Why not? No, he's not that. 439 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 1: There's there's no if fans or butts about it. But 440 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 1: I have seen this team in others make the postseason 441 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:47,200 Speaker 1: and make a serious run at the super Bowl. Is 442 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:50,600 Speaker 1: being the latest example with Jimmy Garoppolo Garoppolo again last 443 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:54,639 Speaker 1: year with quarterback who's not in in Matt's terms, the 444 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 1: the engine, the locomotive pulling everybody else along. Now to 445 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:01,680 Speaker 1: do that, though, you need to have a great team 446 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 1: around them. That's the that's the flying the ointment there 447 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:07,480 Speaker 1: sure uh do you know do the Steelers have that 448 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:10,560 Speaker 1: right now? As we sit here today on March first. No, 449 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:13,639 Speaker 1: that doesn't mean that they can't put a lot of 450 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:18,320 Speaker 1: those pieces against September one. By September one. Along those lines, West, 451 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:23,200 Speaker 1: I mean, Dale mentioned the locomotive metaphor, and if the 452 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:27,959 Speaker 1: Steelers think there's a locomotive in this draft or Winston 453 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 1: Trobisky Mariotta potential locomotive, right then no prices too much 454 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:35,399 Speaker 1: from right, you know, I mean, if you identify the 455 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:38,880 Speaker 1: guy that you think can be special and can following 456 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:43,840 Speaker 1: Roethlisberger shoes, whatever it cost doesn't matter, you know. And frankly, 457 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:46,399 Speaker 1: the the chief's mind paying homes forty million with the 458 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:49,119 Speaker 1: Packers gonna mind after trading up to get it right 459 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:51,399 Speaker 1: again in a draft that as we talked about in 460 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:54,879 Speaker 1: the last segment, he wasn't a slam dunk, but they 461 00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:56,879 Speaker 1: they looked at some things with him. It wasn't a 462 00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 1: great quote unquote quarterback draft, much like this year, right right, 463 00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:03,119 Speaker 1: They they they in the in the Texas both identified 464 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:06,399 Speaker 1: a guy that they thought had those had those traits. 465 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:09,280 Speaker 1: And no one's saying, boy, Texans overpaid. We could move 466 00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:11,879 Speaker 1: up to Watson or I mean, frankly, if Trabisky is 467 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:13,760 Speaker 1: a home run nowhere has said, well, you went from 468 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 1: three to two. That was dumb. You know. If he 469 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:17,399 Speaker 1: was turning into my homes, no one even thought twice 470 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:21,560 Speaker 1: about it. So if they think there is a locomotive, 471 00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 1: I don't care what the cost is, you know what 472 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:27,399 Speaker 1: I mean, including Winston, Mariota, whomever. Wow, that's a bigger contract. 473 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:30,919 Speaker 1: They thought, well, they must think he's potentially special. Um. 474 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 1: But otherwise the Dale's point, I think you then zag 475 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:37,720 Speaker 1: if there isn't and you find a guy that can 476 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 1: get you there and use your resources elsewhere, becomes a 477 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:44,160 Speaker 1: tackle or you know, maybe a receiver that nobody thought 478 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:47,359 Speaker 1: was coming, and and surround the Jimmy Garoppolos of the 479 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 1: world with a great cast and try to do it 480 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 1: that way. You know. But because that's why they couldn't 481 00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 1: move on last year. They didn't have these resources to 482 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:58,080 Speaker 1: make these decisions, you know. And they've set themselves up 483 00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 1: very well this year to be in the situation to 484 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:04,720 Speaker 1: make a move if they have to. And that's what 485 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:07,399 Speaker 1: we're all waiting to see. It is our live coverage 486 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 1: here at the Combine. We mentioned a few minutes ago 487 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:13,800 Speaker 1: Kevin Colbert giving his annual UH combine Prescott State to 488 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 1: the Steelers State of the Steelers. There we go Dale. 489 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:18,639 Speaker 1: That's what I'm looking that's the word, that's the term 490 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:21,000 Speaker 1: that I'm looking for. Let's hear what Kevin Colbert had 491 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:25,639 Speaker 1: to say just moments ago. Rensely, I look forward to 492 00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 1: it every year. It happens where it seems like it 493 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:30,000 Speaker 1: takes forever, then all of a sudden it's over. We 494 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 1: got to move on to the next. We really enjoyed 495 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:42,280 Speaker 1: this process. Coachman enjoys it because he really evaluation is 496 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:46,280 Speaker 1: Again a month into it, we resigned him. We had 497 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:48,480 Speaker 1: a clear vision for him. He has a lot about 498 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:51,320 Speaker 1: What we did was we went through the March first 499 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:54,240 Speaker 1: free where a team cannot deny you access to a 500 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:57,720 Speaker 1: lot of individual After March First, they came until we 501 00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:00,960 Speaker 1: tried to go through picked out to put the folks 502 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 1: and we thought we could interview from other teams. Will 503 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:06,760 Speaker 1: continue to look at maybe because we're still under contract. 504 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:10,680 Speaker 1: As we move forward, folks that aren't under contract we 505 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:14,359 Speaker 1: may look at as well, but we'll continue follow up 506 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 1: after the draft. We're gonna with the people under contract, 507 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:20,800 Speaker 1: were respect for letting them to their team, and our 508 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 1: focus will really be on trying to get this draft 509 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:25,879 Speaker 1: and three eight now correcting them. We'll deal with it 510 00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 1: after draft. In terms of the quarterbacks, and think you're 511 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:37,399 Speaker 1: seeing how much Dams would have to deal with up. 512 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:39,920 Speaker 1: We have to do its best one more time. Just 513 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:42,200 Speaker 1: in terms of the quarterbacks that are bailed on this draft. 514 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:45,879 Speaker 1: How do you think teams that give up less what happened, 515 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:49,200 Speaker 1: give up less in order? That's just I think every 516 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:52,359 Speaker 1: given year is unique that this class is this class. 517 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:55,240 Speaker 1: You're not gonna make them up. You're not gonna create more, 518 00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:59,040 Speaker 1: cannot create less. They are who they are as players. 519 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:02,159 Speaker 1: As I said, I things there's quality starters available with 520 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:07,480 Speaker 1: one more to Kevin, how do you evaluate guys like 521 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:10,399 Speaker 1: Banner and Thoughts and guys at one starting jobs. But 522 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:12,359 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, for Harley haven't been 523 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:14,879 Speaker 1: out on the field the whole time. Those players didn't 524 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:17,520 Speaker 1: contribute for us as we expected last year, and we 525 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:21,000 Speaker 1: expect more and we expect more opportunities, and I believe 526 00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:24,480 Speaker 1: they'll have those opportunities. Honesty, they need they need to 527 00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:26,960 Speaker 1: give us more than we got last year. Some of 528 00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:30,200 Speaker 1: that was health related. We understand that, but we also 529 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:33,400 Speaker 1: understand it. We need more. We need better and we're 530 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:35,800 Speaker 1: gonna work to try to get that. Yeah, just like 531 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:42,480 Speaker 1: thank you, thank you. Kevin Colbert from moments ago here 532 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:45,800 Speaker 1: his State of the Steelers Annual address at the Combine. 533 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:48,880 Speaker 1: You heard a portion of that. They're a reminder Kevin 534 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:51,600 Speaker 1: will join us here on S and R this afternoon, 535 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:54,600 Speaker 1: So make sure you are tuned in and a good 536 00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:56,760 Speaker 1: way to stay up on everything. Maybe I should have 537 00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:58,320 Speaker 1: plugged this at the at the top of the hour. 538 00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:01,040 Speaker 1: If you want to follow our Steeler Station Radio account 539 00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:04,119 Speaker 1: on Twitter, there you go. Uh, that's that's that's the 540 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:06,440 Speaker 1: best place. Just search for Steelers Nation Radio on Twitter. 541 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:08,800 Speaker 1: You'll find us there. We tweet out our guests are 542 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:11,560 Speaker 1: are you know, our shows every single day when certain 543 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:14,240 Speaker 1: people are going to be joining us. Um and like 544 00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:16,320 Speaker 1: I said, within the next hour here we are anticipating 545 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:19,159 Speaker 1: Kevin Colbert sitting down at the table with us and 546 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:21,679 Speaker 1: uh and we will tweet out whenever that is going 547 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:23,879 Speaker 1: to happen. So if you are, if you're one of 548 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:26,240 Speaker 1: the Steelers junkies rocking and rolling with us here for 549 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:29,159 Speaker 1: the week, make sure you're tuning in and checking out 550 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:31,640 Speaker 1: the Steelers Nation Radio Twitter account. That is where you will, 551 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:33,960 Speaker 1: you know, be able to to see all of our 552 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:36,600 Speaker 1: guests in the exact timing and everything and west real quick. 553 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:38,800 Speaker 1: I mean, since we didn't have a combine last year, 554 00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:40,639 Speaker 1: I'm sure we have a lot of new listeners that 555 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:44,520 Speaker 1: haven't heard us from Indy before that. My favorite thing 556 00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:47,600 Speaker 1: about this week is it's seeing people that you deal 557 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:49,239 Speaker 1: with in the media a lot. But man, we get 558 00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:52,320 Speaker 1: such good guests. Well guess we've had some really big 559 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:55,560 Speaker 1: name guys. Um. You know, Cynthia Freedland was with us 560 00:27:55,640 --> 00:28:00,800 Speaker 1: last time I was going away. We always get great coachell. Yeah, 561 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:03,000 Speaker 1: that's my favorite segment of the year to be. Yeah, 562 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:08,560 Speaker 1: you're like that, and we're gonna we don't have anything 563 00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:10,760 Speaker 1: lined up yet, but we're gonna grab people left and right, 564 00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:12,960 Speaker 1: and they're gonna be high end guests and we're talking 565 00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:15,840 Speaker 1: a lot of quarterbacks and a lot of draft prospects, 566 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:19,040 Speaker 1: and so stay tuned. It's gonna be good stuff, folks. Matt, 567 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:22,680 Speaker 1: I know that you are. You love these this week, 568 00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:25,320 Speaker 1: these events. This is in a lot of ways, you know, 569 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:27,920 Speaker 1: because for those unfamiliar again, maybe some new listeners that 570 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:30,880 Speaker 1: we've picked up along the way, Uh, Matt, you know, scouting. 571 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:34,280 Speaker 1: Was was your what your foray into this business before 572 00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:37,440 Speaker 1: you started doing radio? Uh? With Pitt, with Akron, with 573 00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:41,920 Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns. Is there any one person that you're 574 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:44,280 Speaker 1: most I know we had some bigger picture conversations. Is 575 00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:47,640 Speaker 1: there any one person that you're most intrigued by this week? 576 00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:54,920 Speaker 1: Mm hmm. That's a great question, Um, drawing a blank 577 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:56,400 Speaker 1: to be I know, that's a tough one to put 578 00:28:56,480 --> 00:29:00,280 Speaker 1: you on. That they're so good because there's a very 579 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:03,400 Speaker 1: steeler relevant Holy smokes. I mean some of these guys 580 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:05,600 Speaker 1: are you know, two fifty to sixty even up to 581 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:08,840 Speaker 1: to seventy and they're expected to run into four fives 582 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:12,600 Speaker 1: And yeah, I mean it's it's a really good edge group. Um, 583 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:15,640 Speaker 1: you know, and I think you know incredibly. I think 584 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:19,160 Speaker 1: we did the Daniel Jeremiah mock draft the other day, 585 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:22,400 Speaker 1: his second mock draft right before on Friday, and I 586 00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:24,720 Speaker 1: think he had nine edge edge rushers going in the 587 00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:26,440 Speaker 1: first round. I mean that's almost a third of the 588 00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:29,400 Speaker 1: of the first round on guys who can rush the passer. 589 00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:32,200 Speaker 1: You and I had this conversation stacking them is is 590 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:35,320 Speaker 1: unbelievably hard, right right. One of our next projects when 591 00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:36,960 Speaker 1: we get home, is we gotta do our top five 592 00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:39,840 Speaker 1: edge rushers and kind of dreading it because again, there's 593 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:43,240 Speaker 1: gonna good guys off the off the yea, and I 594 00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 1: think they want maybe even we were talking about on 595 00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:47,280 Speaker 1: the ride down, the three of us. But if you 596 00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:50,480 Speaker 1: think about their thirty two spots in this draft, let's 597 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:52,239 Speaker 1: say eight of them are edge rushers. I mean that's 598 00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:55,160 Speaker 1: a quarter of it. There's gonna be at least three quarterbacks, 599 00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:59,280 Speaker 1: maybe four. You know, there's five or six offensive lineman. 600 00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:03,440 Speaker 1: I would say they the top one. It doesn't leave much. 601 00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:06,160 Speaker 1: You know, warners aren't gonna be neglected. And then there's 602 00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:09,120 Speaker 1: a Kyle Hambleton's that's certainly gonna be the first early pick. 603 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:11,320 Speaker 1: But all of a sudden, thirty you get the thirty 604 00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:13,800 Speaker 1: two pretty quick. You do it. And and I think 605 00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:15,760 Speaker 1: this year's draft, we've talked about this in the past 606 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:19,240 Speaker 1: to Matt, where typically you can you can take the 607 00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:22,560 Speaker 1: top twelve to six team players and you know that 608 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:24,760 Speaker 1: these guys are gonna go in the top any draft 609 00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:26,640 Speaker 1: they come out, they're coming they're going somewhere in the 610 00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:30,720 Speaker 1: top twenty, you know, depending on need. This year, it's 611 00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:34,040 Speaker 1: it's like the top ten, and then after that, it's 612 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:36,959 Speaker 1: like it could be any one of sixty players who 613 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:40,040 Speaker 1: could go in the first round. Of course, the draft 614 00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:41,959 Speaker 1: still far aways away, and I have a lot more 615 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:45,360 Speaker 1: work to do, but it's definitely the strangest draft I 616 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:48,760 Speaker 1: can remember. It really is. There's no quarterback that's a 617 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:53,040 Speaker 1: slam dunk at the top of it. There's no there's 618 00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:57,160 Speaker 1: no consensus number one guy. Two seventeen draft. You knew 619 00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:59,120 Speaker 1: Myles Garrett was going number one, right and he could 620 00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:01,880 Speaker 1: compete for that, and year any of you already came out. 621 00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:04,400 Speaker 1: He's just not a quarterback. And even to take a 622 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:08,320 Speaker 1: step further, I don't know if any player in this 623 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:10,680 Speaker 1: draft to go into top ten last year. I mean 624 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:13,040 Speaker 1: a lot of those quarterbacks you know with fields and 625 00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:15,360 Speaker 1: you know now that could change after like you might 626 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:17,440 Speaker 1: change that one of these offensive tackles goes out there 627 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:19,000 Speaker 1: and lights things up in his you know who was 628 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:20,800 Speaker 1: on you know, if Evan Neil goes out there at 629 00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:27,800 Speaker 1: three sixty pounds and test runs, who might do that too? 630 00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:31,960 Speaker 1: Gay too and actually did your original question might be 631 00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:34,360 Speaker 1: Derek Stingley. I'm not sure if he's gonna work out 632 00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:35,600 Speaker 1: here or not. I haven't. I don't know if he's 633 00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:38,520 Speaker 1: announced it, but he was thought of as like a 634 00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:42,840 Speaker 1: rare Patrick Peterson like corner prospect and years ago, a 635 00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:45,400 Speaker 1: couple of years ago, and he hasn't. Uh he opted 636 00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:47,200 Speaker 1: out the one year, he got hurt the next year, 637 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:49,200 Speaker 1: so we haven't seen him since he was nineteen years 638 00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:53,000 Speaker 1: old dominating with Joe Burrows led LSU team, which seems 639 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:56,000 Speaker 1: like a million years ago. But what if he's everything 640 00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:59,800 Speaker 1: we thought he was. Maybe maybe that that would, you know, 641 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:02,120 Speaker 1: go the opposite direction of what I was saying about 642 00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:04,320 Speaker 1: guys that wouldn't have gone top ten last year maybe 643 00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:07,160 Speaker 1: be better than a horn or a certain or somebody. 644 00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:08,760 Speaker 1: That's the thing I think in this draft, it's the 645 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:12,360 Speaker 1: most like there are a lot of typically you know, 646 00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:16,400 Speaker 1: and everybody gives the Steelers uh a tough time for 647 00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:18,720 Speaker 1: all those years when they were cornerback needy and and 648 00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:22,080 Speaker 1: couldn't get one in the first round because they pick 649 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:24,960 Speaker 1: or in all the top cornerbacks that you know, the 650 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,880 Speaker 1: top three or four guys. I'll go into first. Corners 651 00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:30,440 Speaker 1: a trade driven position more than most. There are a 652 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:32,920 Speaker 1: lot of there are a lot of like six ft 653 00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:37,840 Speaker 1: taller corners in this draft, like body corner and I 654 00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:40,200 Speaker 1: assume can run pretty well, and you know, it looks 655 00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:42,360 Speaker 1: like it on tape, but you don't typically see in 656 00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:45,360 Speaker 1: a draft. It's deeper. It's deeper there too. There's a 657 00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:47,520 Speaker 1: couple of trends. I mean, there's a lot of short quarterbacks, 658 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:49,840 Speaker 1: there's a lot of tall corners. You know, just a 659 00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:53,320 Speaker 1: weird year, and my hunches it'll be a deeper draft 660 00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:56,320 Speaker 1: than last year. Like I remember being critical to Steelers 661 00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:59,120 Speaker 1: frankly when they traded for louder Milk. Part of me 662 00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:01,280 Speaker 1: was because I was ignorant and didn't know what kind 663 00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:04,160 Speaker 1: of player louder Milk was. He wasn't a commonly known guy. 664 00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,080 Speaker 1: But I said at the time, I'm like, man, next 665 00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:09,040 Speaker 1: year's draft is gonna be so deep because all these 666 00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:11,600 Speaker 1: guys are coming out, and I'm not sure it really is. 667 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,280 Speaker 1: I'm not sure that it's insanely deep. You know, where 668 00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:17,080 Speaker 1: six and seventh rounders are gonna be hitting left and right. 669 00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:18,720 Speaker 1: You know. So I still have more work to do, 670 00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:21,640 Speaker 1: but it's a weird year for draft. Before we got 671 00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:24,160 Speaker 1: a break here because I know, I mean, you I 672 00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:27,440 Speaker 1: make this joke sometimes. Dale has literally been covering football 673 00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:30,360 Speaker 1: for as long as I've been alive, I think maybe 674 00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:31,960 Speaker 1: I got you by one year now with with with 675 00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:37,520 Speaker 1: my birthday this week, I think I think I'm I 676 00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:38,920 Speaker 1: think I'm one ahead of you now, but you you 677 00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:42,680 Speaker 1: would catch up eventually. Um, when was the last time 678 00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:47,040 Speaker 1: you remember the top pick the top three picks being 679 00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:49,920 Speaker 1: so up in the air like it like it is 680 00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:52,480 Speaker 1: this year, because there's there's what there's probably is it 681 00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:54,440 Speaker 1: safe to say three, four or five guys that could 682 00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:57,160 Speaker 1: go and pick one and it wouldn't surprise us. That's true. 683 00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:00,280 Speaker 1: That's definitely true. It's definitely true. And and there have 684 00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:03,120 Speaker 1: been years. For example, the year Manning came out and 685 00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:05,600 Speaker 1: it was Manning or Leaf, people forget that. You knew 686 00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:07,360 Speaker 1: it was gonna be one of the two, you know, 687 00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:09,600 Speaker 1: just you just weren't sure which one was gonna go first. 688 00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:12,320 Speaker 1: This is different, It's different. Yeah, I mean even like 689 00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:15,520 Speaker 1: Winston Mariota. Um, you know, maybe at this point we 690 00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:19,040 Speaker 1: didn't know Golf and Wentz where household dames yet, But 691 00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:22,000 Speaker 1: as soon as those trades were made to get those 692 00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:24,600 Speaker 1: teams made trades well before the draft, you knew it 693 00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:26,600 Speaker 1: was for those two. I mean, maybe they liked Wentz 694 00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:31,280 Speaker 1: better than golfer. Who knows, but it's rarely to your point, 695 00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:33,920 Speaker 1: is there more than two people in contention for the 696 00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:36,760 Speaker 1: first overall spot and that makes it even more intriguing 697 00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:38,720 Speaker 1: for us and plenty to talk about here. Will continue 698 00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:41,400 Speaker 1: to do that close out our first hour of Combine 699 00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:43,960 Speaker 1: coverage when we returned on the other side. Another reminder, 700 00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:46,879 Speaker 1: we will be joined in the next hour by Kevin 701 00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:50,000 Speaker 1: Colbert right here on Radio Row on SNR, So make 702 00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:52,400 Speaker 1: sure you are staying tuned in and not going anywhere. 703 00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:55,719 Speaker 1: Matt Williamson, Dale, Lali Wesley, Jueler. Our Combine coverage is 704 00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:59,120 Speaker 1: presented by First National Bank. Let's get started, remember f D. 705 00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:03,040 Speaker 1: I see more Combine talk, more Steelers talk right around 706 00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:10,799 Speaker 1: the corner on SNR live from Indianapolis. This is continuing 707 00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:20,440 Speaker 1: coverage Jump NFL Combine on Steelers Nation Radio back inside 708 00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:24,080 Speaker 1: the Convention Center. It is the Scouting Combine two here 709 00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:27,960 Speaker 1: in beautiful Indianapolis. They let me not pay the light 710 00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:31,000 Speaker 1: billing here, Brother Matt. Matt said that in the in 711 00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:32,839 Speaker 1: the in the first segment of the top of the hour, 712 00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:35,920 Speaker 1: you know, it's like it's like ambiance, like it's getting 713 00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:37,920 Speaker 1: brighter very slowly, but I'm not. There's a lot of 714 00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:40,000 Speaker 1: these lights that aren't on. Yeah, I don't get it. Yeah, 715 00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:43,319 Speaker 1: they're just waking me sleepy. You did say beautiful Indianapolis, 716 00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:45,200 Speaker 1: So it was some nice weather. This is the nicest 717 00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:48,440 Speaker 1: weather for the Combine that I can remember having in 718 00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:50,879 Speaker 1: on the history of the combine. It's always like icy 719 00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:53,000 Speaker 1: and cold. We did see a little bit of snow 720 00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:55,239 Speaker 1: last night where that was piled up, yeah, right a 721 00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:57,919 Speaker 1: right that was obviously hadn't melted yet at But other 722 00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:00,319 Speaker 1: than that, I mean, goodness, can't beat it. My two 723 00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:02,680 Speaker 1: thousand nineteen was my my first year here, and I remember, 724 00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:04,400 Speaker 1: I mean it was you stepped outside and it just 725 00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:06,759 Speaker 1: hit cut right through you. Yeah. I always think of 726 00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:08,839 Speaker 1: the wind here. It's so flattened it goes right through. 727 00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:11,600 Speaker 1: But we have had I mean sunny. It's beautiful, absolutely is, 728 00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:13,960 Speaker 1: and we might miss it next year because this could 729 00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:15,640 Speaker 1: be the last one here for a few years. It 730 00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:18,200 Speaker 1: could be. It makes me sad. That would make me sad. 731 00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:22,319 Speaker 1: Accessible for every team, Are we gonna drive the Are 732 00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:24,200 Speaker 1: we gonna drive the company geep across the country to 733 00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:28,799 Speaker 1: southern California? I don't think that Vegas, Vegas. They might 734 00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:32,799 Speaker 1: find us buried in the desert somewhere. Wesley Weller Dale, Lally, 735 00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:36,000 Speaker 1: Matt Williamson. A reminder, our Combine coverage is presented by 736 00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:39,200 Speaker 1: First National Bank. Let's get started remember f D I C. 737 00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:42,560 Speaker 1: In the next hour of our S and R coverage here, 738 00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:45,239 Speaker 1: Kevin Colbert will sit down at the table and UH 739 00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:47,600 Speaker 1: and converse with us here on SNR, so make sure 740 00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:50,320 Speaker 1: you're stay in tune. And again, one more reminder, follow 741 00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:52,680 Speaker 1: the Steelers Nation Radio account on Twitter. That's where we're 742 00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:56,080 Speaker 1: posting all the different happenings and guests this week. So 743 00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:58,160 Speaker 1: if you want to stay in UH, in touch and 744 00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:01,359 Speaker 1: step with us throughout the week. Um our coverage tend 745 00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:03,839 Speaker 1: to four every single day except for Saturday, we're out 746 00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:05,279 Speaker 1: of here a little bit earlier, but we are here 747 00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:08,720 Speaker 1: all week. Nobody given you Steelers coverage and Combine coverage 748 00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:12,560 Speaker 1: like we do on SR on the start of the 749 00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:14,319 Speaker 1: day till the end of the day every day as well. 750 00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:17,200 Speaker 1: So listen, Dale, I know you you've got a lot 751 00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:20,080 Speaker 1: to do. It's a busy week, it is, you know. 752 00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:24,160 Speaker 1: I I I love this week. I dread this week. Um, 753 00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:25,960 Speaker 1: you know it takes a little out of you though 754 00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:29,239 Speaker 1: you anticipating on Saturdays, we're a little droopy, a little yeah, 755 00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:30,799 Speaker 1: beat you up a little bit, but you know that's 756 00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:32,640 Speaker 1: part of the it goes. It's the job, you know, 757 00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:36,000 Speaker 1: And it's like, this is this is normalcy, Yes, this 758 00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:38,239 Speaker 1: is this is getting the league getting back to some 759 00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:40,880 Speaker 1: level of normalcy. Um, you know, I went to the 760 00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:43,960 Speaker 1: Senior Bowl, but that's not really a league event. That's 761 00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:46,320 Speaker 1: you know, so it's it's a little different like the 762 00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:50,680 Speaker 1: Super Bowl was still everything was still uh virtual for 763 00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:52,920 Speaker 1: the most part. So we you know, you you just 764 00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:55,719 Speaker 1: had Kevin Colbert on a podium with a bunch of 765 00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:57,800 Speaker 1: you know, every other team has guys up except for 766 00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:00,880 Speaker 1: the Patriots. Uh for some reason, as somebody at the 767 00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:03,560 Speaker 1: podium talking today, all the players will be available now. 768 00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:05,440 Speaker 1: The spacing is a little different than it used to be. 769 00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:08,160 Speaker 1: You know. Good, Yeah, that's fine. You're not gonna be 770 00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:09,719 Speaker 1: able to sit down with the guys like you used 771 00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:13,080 Speaker 1: to and have a conversation like we're having. But it's 772 00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:16,320 Speaker 1: a return to normalcy. You know. It's like, Okay, this 773 00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:18,919 Speaker 1: this maybe we're maybe we're getting through this and maybe 774 00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:23,240 Speaker 1: next year will will be a an actual normal NFL 775 00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:25,720 Speaker 1: season again. I just you know, to get back inside 776 00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:31,160 Speaker 1: the locker room would be such a huge things. I mean, 777 00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:33,680 Speaker 1: you know, and people there used to be the argument, 778 00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:34,960 Speaker 1: what do you guys need to be in the locker 779 00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:38,200 Speaker 1: room for? I think you're seeing now why you know 780 00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:40,960 Speaker 1: you when when you get the question now like why 781 00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:43,520 Speaker 1: why does everybody have the same story this you know today? 782 00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:50,160 Speaker 1: Because that's what we had available minutes and and so 783 00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:52,879 Speaker 1: I brought this up with the Steelers PR guys last year, 784 00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:57,560 Speaker 1: like for example, um uh now his name is escaping 785 00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:01,759 Speaker 1: and they blocked two punts last year. Yeah, Miles Killerber Yeah, 786 00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:04,560 Speaker 1: Miles Killerbrew blocked tu punts last year. Was the only 787 00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:07,080 Speaker 1: guy in the NFL to do it. I would have 788 00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:09,080 Speaker 1: loved to have done a story like it's just maybe 789 00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:11,080 Speaker 1: it's just a you know, it's just a little piece 790 00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:14,800 Speaker 1: on Miles killer brew dred words whatever. But that's but 791 00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:18,319 Speaker 1: you would have done it, you know, yeah, you know right, 792 00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:20,520 Speaker 1: and maybe you learned something about Miles killer Brews you 793 00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:22,960 Speaker 1: didn't know and you're having a conversation with him. You 794 00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:24,800 Speaker 1: don't get a chance to do stuff like that, or 795 00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:27,399 Speaker 1: had the conversation go between the Steelers and killer Brew 796 00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:29,480 Speaker 1: when they were they were it was a free as 797 00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:30,879 Speaker 1: a free agent. You know, hey, we want a course 798 00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:33,759 Speaker 1: special team er, but we're gonna including the defense. You know, 799 00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:35,560 Speaker 1: did they get more than that? Little things like that, 800 00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:37,759 Speaker 1: you know, because the guys and and and I don't 801 00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:39,279 Speaker 1: blame the Steelers for this, and you know it's not 802 00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:41,600 Speaker 1: the NFL's fault either, but you're you know, you got 803 00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:44,000 Speaker 1: you know, we were getting every week we knew you're 804 00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:46,439 Speaker 1: getting Ben Roethlisberger, you're getting cam Hey where you're getting 805 00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:49,799 Speaker 1: t J watch, you got the stars and they did 806 00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:51,759 Speaker 1: a good job of asking us, Okay, who else do 807 00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:54,320 Speaker 1: you want to talk to? But you have you know, 808 00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:57,800 Speaker 1: fifteen different media members putting guys on that list, and 809 00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:01,319 Speaker 1: and and so the years you've done this, you could 810 00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:04,400 Speaker 1: go pull anybody away on the field and just say, hey, 811 00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:06,640 Speaker 1: can I have already through privately? You know, right you're 812 00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:08,600 Speaker 1: in the locker room and walking a lot of times 813 00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:11,120 Speaker 1: just stories. You just start chatting with somebody, the story 814 00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:14,080 Speaker 1: builds and you learn something. You know, hey, I'm doing 815 00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:16,880 Speaker 1: you know, I I did this in the offseason that 816 00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:20,600 Speaker 1: this this cross training that really helped me where I 817 00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:23,320 Speaker 1: took a trip to to kilman jar Oh and like 818 00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:26,439 Speaker 1: to you know, like to the summit. You know, things 819 00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:28,200 Speaker 1: like that that you don't want to hear about, right, 820 00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:31,400 Speaker 1: don't You don't get the it's there. You were getting 821 00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:34,040 Speaker 1: the meat and potatoes, but you weren't getting the gravy. Yeah, 822 00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:37,520 Speaker 1: I have. You've told me this off the year too. 823 00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:39,719 Speaker 1: But I'm sure it's frustrating with your job is because 824 00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:42,479 Speaker 1: you made many connections with the team and those guys 825 00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:45,480 Speaker 1: trust you, and you're getting the same thing as everybody else, 826 00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:47,880 Speaker 1: you know, like, let me do the other thing is 827 00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:50,640 Speaker 1: now you know, you've got guys who have been on 828 00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:53,440 Speaker 1: this team for two years and have never had media 829 00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:56,239 Speaker 1: in the locker room. Like I you know, I don't 830 00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:59,160 Speaker 1: think I'm I'm giving away any trade secrets here, but um, 831 00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:03,360 Speaker 1: you know, and conversation with Bert Lowton Um at the 832 00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:06,719 Speaker 1: Steelers PR director UM towards the end of the year, 833 00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:10,520 Speaker 1: we were talking about this and he's like, every year 834 00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:13,880 Speaker 1: at rookie Mini Camp because colleges don't allow the media 835 00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:16,799 Speaker 1: into the locker room. You know, they bring guys out 836 00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:18,839 Speaker 1: much like we've done the last the last year here, 837 00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:21,200 Speaker 1: so you get whoever they give you. He said, So 838 00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:23,719 Speaker 1: every year Rookie Mini Camp when the media is in 839 00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:25,600 Speaker 1: the locker room and the rookies come into the rookies 840 00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:27,759 Speaker 1: are in the in the locker room, like, are we 841 00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:31,080 Speaker 1: allowed to talk to these guys? Yeah, they've never done 842 00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:34,040 Speaker 1: it before, you know. Um, so it's it's different for 843 00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:37,440 Speaker 1: them as well, but it allows their personality to come 844 00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:39,200 Speaker 1: out a little bit more than sitting in a in 845 00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:42,360 Speaker 1: a kind of a sterile environment after a game or 846 00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:43,800 Speaker 1: in the middle of a week. You're you know, you 847 00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:46,239 Speaker 1: get all the TV cameras on you and and so 848 00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:48,880 Speaker 1: maybe you get a little nervous in those situations, whereas 849 00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:51,840 Speaker 1: if you're just having a one on one conversation with somebody, 850 00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:54,680 Speaker 1: just you're just having a conversation, you know, so you're 851 00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:56,759 Speaker 1: much more at ease. And everyone knows how that is. 852 00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:59,000 Speaker 1: It's it is. It's different when there's a camera in 853 00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:01,560 Speaker 1: front of your face as opposed to you're just you're 854 00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:04,680 Speaker 1: just standing there. Yeah. Yeah. Dale used to do that 855 00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:06,760 Speaker 1: on the field all the time, just right off to practice, 856 00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:08,520 Speaker 1: you pull somebody aside and have a little chat with 857 00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:11,160 Speaker 1: them or whatever, and you know, it's very natural. And um, 858 00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:13,440 Speaker 1: you know, we were even talking last night. Make if 859 00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:17,040 Speaker 1: Fitzpatrick's never been the st Vincentce, Like, that's crazy. He's 860 00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:19,040 Speaker 1: going into his fourth year with the Steelers and it's 861 00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:20,960 Speaker 1: never been the same Fencit College, right because he was 862 00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:24,640 Speaker 1: acquired say after training camp that year. And if you 863 00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:26,680 Speaker 1: start looking at the roster and what it's gonna look like, 864 00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:30,319 Speaker 1: not many have. Yeah, that's gonna be a whole whole 865 00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:32,160 Speaker 1: They're gonna be like, they're gonna have to have a 866 00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:33,920 Speaker 1: couple of those guys, but they're gonna have to have 867 00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:35,840 Speaker 1: like some of the college kids come in is is 868 00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:44,640 Speaker 1: uh orientation freshman and software. But now it's your point. 869 00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:46,880 Speaker 1: I mean, we are approaching normalcy and just being here 870 00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:49,240 Speaker 1: is awesome and I can't wait to get into the football. 871 00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:51,560 Speaker 1: I know, you know, hopefully they're able to go back 872 00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:53,359 Speaker 1: to same Fensit College this year. I know the fans 873 00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:56,640 Speaker 1: have really missed that. I'm sure you guys, Mots and 874 00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:58,800 Speaker 1: I we get tweets from people do you know anything 875 00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:00,879 Speaker 1: about st I mean, I thought, think about training camp. 876 00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:02,719 Speaker 1: I've already had people asking me because they want to 877 00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:05,239 Speaker 1: plan their vacation time around same that's the same thing. 878 00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:07,440 Speaker 1: People come up from the South or from all over 879 00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:09,480 Speaker 1: just to make that. Haven't been able to do that, 880 00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:11,600 Speaker 1: you know for the couple. Yeah, we we've got We've 881 00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:14,000 Speaker 1: got a listener family from Wisconsin that I know listens 882 00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:16,000 Speaker 1: to to SNR all the time, and they always make 883 00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:17,720 Speaker 1: a whole you know, they'll spend a couple days in Pittsburgh. 884 00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:21,399 Speaker 1: They have any jersey just that they'll take, they'll take, 885 00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:23,600 Speaker 1: They'll take the kids to sand Castle. Then they'll go 886 00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:25,799 Speaker 1: and spend you know, two days in Latrobe. But it's 887 00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:31,040 Speaker 1: it's it's just a unique event that, um, you don't 888 00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:33,799 Speaker 1: really understand. I mean they've had training camp the last 889 00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:36,120 Speaker 1: two years at hines Field and it's been a training 890 00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:38,520 Speaker 1: camp and they've gotten done what they needed to get done. 891 00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:42,080 Speaker 1: But you missed a team building part of it. Yeah, right, right, right, Mean, 892 00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:45,880 Speaker 1: it's just it really is that that team building exercise. 893 00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:47,919 Speaker 1: It takes part and I think that goes a long way. 894 00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:53,200 Speaker 1: When you start running into some you're gonna hit bumps 895 00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:56,200 Speaker 1: over the course of the season. I think when you 896 00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:59,440 Speaker 1: when you you know those guys, you you were a 897 00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:03,799 Speaker 1: sequest with them in a dorm uh for five weeks. Uh, 898 00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:06,400 Speaker 1: you have a more of a trust factor there. I 899 00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:08,200 Speaker 1: know they always talked about which you know, we believe 900 00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:10,719 Speaker 1: in all the guys in this locker room, and you do. 901 00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:13,239 Speaker 1: But I think you do more so when you when 902 00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:15,480 Speaker 1: you spend time living with those guys, and that just 903 00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:17,960 Speaker 1: that that part of the team building process. I mean, 904 00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:20,799 Speaker 1: Wolf brought it up many times. Max Starks is gonna 905 00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:22,399 Speaker 1: sit down with us here for much of the week, 906 00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:24,399 Speaker 1: and I'm sure we could ask him about such things. 907 00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:26,440 Speaker 1: I'm sure Moas has brought it up as well. I mean, 908 00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:28,840 Speaker 1: I think those things are invaluable as opposed to a 909 00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:31,200 Speaker 1: lot of teams that go home every night, which, hey, 910 00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:33,600 Speaker 1: there's wonderful to see your family at all, but we're 911 00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:36,319 Speaker 1: trying to win win super Bowls here. Yeah, I think 912 00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:38,759 Speaker 1: you play harder for those guys when you you know, 913 00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:42,239 Speaker 1: you know them better and you have a better feel 914 00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:44,600 Speaker 1: for them. You're not you're not going home or getting 915 00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:47,040 Speaker 1: pulled in all the opposite directions. You're staying there, okay, 916 00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:48,640 Speaker 1: And I think that I think I also think that 917 00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:53,000 Speaker 1: creates some of the of the bond camaraderie that you 918 00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:55,200 Speaker 1: see with the Steelers that you don't necessarily see with 919 00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:57,960 Speaker 1: some outside teams. I mean, I talked about that a 920 00:44:58,040 --> 00:45:01,560 Speaker 1: lot of times with free agents at the Steelers sign 921 00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:04,399 Speaker 1: and obviously there aren't that many, but you do talk 922 00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:06,719 Speaker 1: to them about you know, what's this. I remember talking 923 00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:10,920 Speaker 1: to Mark Baron about it and market, um, you know that, 924 00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:14,440 Speaker 1: you know what's this like coming to an actual college 925 00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:17,040 Speaker 1: campus for training camp and he's like, well, you know, 926 00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:20,439 Speaker 1: it's I mean, he played Obama for God, like those 927 00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:24,640 Speaker 1: facilities were, you know, not a little different, same, different, different. 928 00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:28,319 Speaker 1: But I think the spartan nous of it also helps. Yeah, 929 00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:31,920 Speaker 1: oh yeah, you know, it's like, okay, maybe it's the 930 00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:33,600 Speaker 1: bonding part of it is, Hey, we just got to 931 00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:36,879 Speaker 1: get through this. Yes, and I know Wolf has talking together. 932 00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:39,640 Speaker 1: Everybody's in They're all living the same misery and so 933 00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:41,520 Speaker 1: you gotta get through that, and that a lot of 934 00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:44,040 Speaker 1: times is the quickest way to bond with somebody. Oh yeah, 935 00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:46,759 Speaker 1: going going through those type of experiences. And it's been 936 00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:48,320 Speaker 1: a huge theme and will be the rest of the 937 00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:50,319 Speaker 1: week and the rest of the year. This is an 938 00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:52,759 Speaker 1: odd year for the Steelers too. I mean, who's gonna 939 00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:54,879 Speaker 1: step up and be the leaders from this last couple 940 00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:58,000 Speaker 1: of half classes and nine road games and all the 941 00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:00,640 Speaker 1: all the different things. I forget what you referenced last night. Deal, 942 00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:04,799 Speaker 1: but besides Cam and Boswell, what what no one else 943 00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:06,560 Speaker 1: on the team had done? I forget what you don't think, 944 00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:09,239 Speaker 1: I don't think anybody well maybe to it um in 945 00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:12,760 Speaker 1: the national game, have knew who Dan knew Dan Rooney. 946 00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:16,200 Speaker 1: I mean like that's it's a very young football team 947 00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:19,399 Speaker 1: by design, you know. So it's a transition time. Oh 948 00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:23,160 Speaker 1: that is yeah, no, it certainly is. We're gonna have 949 00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:25,840 Speaker 1: a transition here. In just a couple of minutes on SNR, 950 00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:29,080 Speaker 1: Max will sit down with us. We are anticipating Kevin Colbert, 951 00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:32,600 Speaker 1: all this good stuff going on, um and again this 952 00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:34,320 Speaker 1: is this is just kind of the start here, you know, 953 00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:36,480 Speaker 1: getting ready. The the energy is gonna pick up in here, 954 00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:39,400 Speaker 1: the um, the atmosphere gonna pick up in here and 955 00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:40,800 Speaker 1: uh and we're happy to have you with us. A 956 00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:43,279 Speaker 1: couple of reminders here again Uh. In the next hour 957 00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:45,239 Speaker 1: of the show, Kevin Colbert will sit down with us, 958 00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:47,920 Speaker 1: and I'm I'm gonna keep plugging it. You know. If 959 00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:51,040 Speaker 1: you if you are a Steelers junkie and you're tuning 960 00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:52,719 Speaker 1: in with us this week on SNR, make sure you're 961 00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:55,359 Speaker 1: following the Steelers Nation Radio Twitter account. That is where 962 00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:58,400 Speaker 1: we will put out all of the uh all the 963 00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:02,200 Speaker 1: different guests and and things that we have going. This 964 00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:04,799 Speaker 1: is this is Matt starting to make some noise here. 965 00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:09,239 Speaker 1: He's slide into a lot of d ms this week. 966 00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:16,160 Speaker 1: He's Matt Williams, said Dale, Lolly Wesley, Ruler, Max Starks 967 00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:18,759 Speaker 1: will join us next Kevin Colbert soon, So don't you 968 00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:22,040 Speaker 1: dare go anywhere. 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