WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: O-Line Concerns? 0:00:09.280 --> 0:00:11.800 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:11.840 --> 0:00:23.959 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Clubs. Are you ready for 0:00:24.000 --> 0:00:27.680 a Break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely? 0:00:27.840 --> 0:00:32.000 Ready for a break? Yeah? And so much for that. 0:00:32.240 --> 0:00:37.400 It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:38.200 --> 0:00:43.680 with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton. 0:00:43.840 --> 0:00:47.479 It is Thursday, August eight, twenty nineteen, Season fifteen, episode 0:00:47.560 --> 0:00:49.680 number twenty three. Welcome to another edition of The Break. 0:00:49.680 --> 0:00:53.440 We are alive, Maxnard, California. The crowd is starting to 0:00:53.479 --> 0:00:55.720 settle in. Cowboys are going to have a morning practice 0:00:55.720 --> 0:00:59.000 this morning, starting up at ten forty five Pacific time. 0:00:59.600 --> 0:01:01.520 It is there last practice before they hit to San 0:01:01.560 --> 0:01:03.959 Francisco to take on the forty nine Ers in their 0:01:03.960 --> 0:01:07.520 first preseason game of the twenty nineteen season. These guys 0:01:07.520 --> 0:01:09.360 will get you prepared for that. Throughout this show, we 0:01:09.440 --> 0:01:11.319 got a lot of topics we're going to hit. We 0:01:11.400 --> 0:01:13.160 got a little bit of a transactor. We had a 0:01:13.160 --> 0:01:15.920 transaction yesterday. We'll talk a little bit about later in 0:01:15.959 --> 0:01:17.920 the show. I do want to talk about this offensive line. 0:01:17.959 --> 0:01:19.600 That's going to be our bigger topic of the show 0:01:19.640 --> 0:01:22.640 and kind of where everything sits there. But before we 0:01:22.800 --> 0:01:25.840 do that, let's first start off talking a little bit 0:01:25.880 --> 0:01:31.000 about Lance Lenore, wide receiver that was released yesterday. Talk 0:01:31.040 --> 0:01:32.920 to me about kind of what would happened with him 0:01:32.959 --> 0:01:34.600 and what kind of the overall because it's not just 0:01:34.680 --> 0:01:37.160 a typical like you release the guy, he's gone forever. 0:01:37.360 --> 0:01:38.959 Talk to me about what that what really happened. We 0:01:39.040 --> 0:01:41.560 might see him around I guess like in the lunch 0:01:41.600 --> 0:01:44.040 area or something for years. I don't know. I don't 0:01:44.040 --> 0:01:47.640 know how that works. Now he's released, and if he's 0:01:47.680 --> 0:01:51.880 not claimed off waivers because he was injured with a 0:01:51.960 --> 0:01:55.360 knee injury, he will revert back to the injured reserve. 0:01:55.440 --> 0:01:58.000 So their friend, I think you could stay with the 0:01:58.160 --> 0:02:01.560 with the team and rehab. But what is his injury. 0:02:01.680 --> 0:02:04.720 It's a knee. It's like a sore knee, sprain knee. 0:02:04.720 --> 0:02:08.080 I mean, I don't think anything that needed surgery or anything. Yeah, 0:02:08.120 --> 0:02:11.240 and that's I don't even know how to put it, 0:02:11.280 --> 0:02:14.639 but that's something that you see kind of happen with 0:02:14.919 --> 0:02:17.000 guys on the bottom of the depth chart, like Cedric 0:02:17.040 --> 0:02:21.120 Wilson last year is a great example, sprained his shoulder, 0:02:21.400 --> 0:02:23.520 although I mean he needed surgery and he was in 0:02:23.520 --> 0:02:26.400 a sling and stuff, but they put him on injured reserve, 0:02:27.280 --> 0:02:29.920 and you ended his season by doing that because the 0:02:29.960 --> 0:02:32.560 alternative was to release him and open him up to 0:02:32.600 --> 0:02:35.720 be snatched up by thirty one other teams. So you 0:02:35.760 --> 0:02:38.280 see that happen with younger guys. This obviously is a 0:02:38.280 --> 0:02:41.520 little bit different because they did cut Lance, but they 0:02:41.560 --> 0:02:44.480 could easily bring him back to develop with them and 0:02:44.600 --> 0:02:47.760 he'll go on the shelf for the season. But better 0:02:47.800 --> 0:02:51.320 than not having any work, I guess, my assistant. The 0:02:51.680 --> 0:02:54.920 suspicion is based upon what we've been talking about on 0:02:54.960 --> 0:02:57.280 this show. He was not a guy that necessarily you 0:02:57.280 --> 0:03:00.359 guys thought would make the team, right amber, I mean, 0:03:00.840 --> 0:03:06.959 they like him for some reason. I don't see no. Okay, stop, 0:03:07.800 --> 0:03:09.959 let me, let me be nice. I'm not trying to 0:03:10.040 --> 0:03:15.880 be mean. But he's just a guy that you know, 0:03:15.919 --> 0:03:19.040 I've watched in practice and you see him show up 0:03:19.280 --> 0:03:21.680 like he'll flash here and there, but then when it 0:03:21.720 --> 0:03:24.760 comes down to the game, he doesn't really show up. 0:03:24.919 --> 0:03:29.239 And how long has he been here for third year? 0:03:29.680 --> 0:03:32.239 I don't know. I just I don't. I don't see it. 0:03:32.320 --> 0:03:35.560 He doesn't excite me that much. But he does have 0:03:35.720 --> 0:03:39.360 something that for whatever reason, the scouts like him and 0:03:39.640 --> 0:03:43.080 the coaches like him, so we'll see what happens with him. 0:03:43.080 --> 0:03:46.680 It's unfortunate that that happened at this point because of 0:03:46.760 --> 0:03:50.440 all the competition that's at the one receiver position that 0:03:51.040 --> 0:03:54.160 you don't have any chance to be getting hurt right now. 0:03:54.440 --> 0:03:57.520 You get hurt and you're forgotten very quickly. Because these 0:03:57.560 --> 0:03:59.720 guys there's a lot of talent right there. I think 0:03:59.760 --> 0:04:01.960 the reason, if you're looking for a reason why they 0:04:02.000 --> 0:04:04.280 like him, it's the classic the more you can do. 0:04:04.520 --> 0:04:08.280 He's he's a smart guy. He's got the athleticism, he 0:04:08.360 --> 0:04:10.840 knows all three of the main positions in the In 0:04:10.880 --> 0:04:13.200 the offense, he can play inside and out, and he 0:04:13.240 --> 0:04:15.440 can do a lot on special teams, whether that's flyer, 0:04:15.560 --> 0:04:18.800 whether that's punt return, all that good stuff. If you're 0:04:18.880 --> 0:04:22.240 not a starter, the more stuff you can do, that 0:04:22.279 --> 0:04:24.280 type of stuff endears you to coaches and scouts. I 0:04:24.320 --> 0:04:26.360 think that's why they like Lance and he obviously over 0:04:26.400 --> 0:04:29.719 the years he's flashed the potential to make really impressive plays, 0:04:30.279 --> 0:04:32.760 never able to put it together on a consistent basis. 0:04:33.600 --> 0:04:36.359 It kind of reminds me of Rico a little bit like. 0:04:36.480 --> 0:04:38.640 Rico and Lance are two guys that have been kicking 0:04:38.680 --> 0:04:41.960 around the roster with a minor role for a few 0:04:42.040 --> 0:04:43.760 years now, and they're both gone within a couple of 0:04:43.839 --> 0:04:49.119 days of each other. On Twitter yesterday, a reporter said 0:04:51.240 --> 0:04:55.040 Lance lean or Era is over in Dallas, and he 0:04:55.120 --> 0:04:57.760 responded with a quote tweet this said, it's not though, 0:04:58.000 --> 0:05:03.360 know your facts before you start tweeting with your fingers. Yeah, 0:05:03.680 --> 0:05:06.640 with your fingers trigger fingers do turn to Twitter fingers. 0:05:06.680 --> 0:05:08.920 I mean it's and it's an old added they got 0:05:08.920 --> 0:05:11.480 a little ahead of themselves on that as old as time. Well, 0:05:11.480 --> 0:05:13.480 I mean it was after he was cut and so 0:05:13.520 --> 0:05:15.000 it was like, yeah, but that's the thing, like you 0:05:15.040 --> 0:05:17.440 don't know all the details of you know, was he 0:05:17.480 --> 0:05:19.919 cut or was he does he return if he's you 0:05:19.960 --> 0:05:23.000 know he's not. That's our seventy seven lists you can 0:05:23.080 --> 0:05:25.440 put a player on right and one of them is 0:05:25.520 --> 0:05:27.279 you know, he can injured reserve. You don't have to 0:05:27.320 --> 0:05:30.920 do anything. Waived injured means we really don't want you 0:05:30.960 --> 0:05:33.640 on our roster. Got it, But he might end up 0:05:33.760 --> 0:05:36.320 right back on their rosters. So it's a classic move. 0:05:36.560 --> 0:05:39.119 You we're gonna see at eighteen times this year. Where 0:05:39.600 --> 0:05:42.680 will McClay or whoever's gonna go up to so and 0:05:42.720 --> 0:05:46.040 so and say we're gonna cut you. Assuming you clear 0:05:46.120 --> 0:05:48.400 the waivers, which we think you will, you'll be right 0:05:48.440 --> 0:05:51.120 back here on Tuesday morning. So right, But I'm just 0:05:51.160 --> 0:05:53.680 saying the chances of him playing for the Cowboys are 0:05:53.720 --> 0:05:57.239 really very, very very as slim as he is. That's true, 0:05:57.400 --> 0:05:59.320 right that part. I agree, it's probably true. But he 0:05:59.600 --> 0:06:01.920 could in back on the roster though, right, for a 0:06:02.040 --> 0:06:05.320 variety of reasons. You see those things. What roster are 0:06:05.320 --> 0:06:08.159 you talking about? Are back on the team, back on 0:06:08.200 --> 0:06:11.080 their injured reserve as a part of the club. He 0:06:11.120 --> 0:06:12.919 will be in as they said, we'll see him at 0:06:13.000 --> 0:06:20.200 lunch will yeah, all over his gym, short everything you 0:06:20.320 --> 0:06:24.239 know the show. For the show, we were talking about 0:06:24.240 --> 0:06:28.920 patience and how see I don't have the patience really 0:06:29.080 --> 0:06:32.200 for to wait around too much. Like once a third 0:06:32.279 --> 0:06:35.880 year hits, I'm like, okay, I'm done. I don't really 0:06:36.040 --> 0:06:40.600 know what the time limit is for, Like how long 0:06:40.640 --> 0:06:43.240 do you give a guy to actually start showing you 0:06:43.279 --> 0:06:46.839 what you need? I don't know. There's there's no baseline 0:06:46.839 --> 0:06:48.880 for that. It depends on how much money you spent 0:06:49.000 --> 0:06:51.480 on him, how much he's shown you, how much of 0:06:51.520 --> 0:06:53.320 at the position, how much you have at the position, 0:06:53.320 --> 0:06:55.039 how much of a pain in the butt he is, 0:06:55.440 --> 0:06:59.359 like off the field, away from football, all that good stuff. 0:06:59.440 --> 0:07:02.440 I mean that's you know, like not to bring him 0:07:02.480 --> 0:07:05.080 back up like Taco. I understand why people are impatient 0:07:05.120 --> 0:07:08.080 with the first round pick, lanceland or undrafted free agent 0:07:08.160 --> 0:07:10.800 whatever like. That's and and he's shown some stuff like 0:07:10.920 --> 0:07:14.080 I don't judge those two things similarly. So I'm just 0:07:14.120 --> 0:07:15.680 like Lands can be here, he can't be here. It 0:07:15.720 --> 0:07:18.120 doesn't really affect one way or the other. We've talked 0:07:18.120 --> 0:07:20.280 about it on this show. You know the whole, whether 0:07:20.280 --> 0:07:22.200 it's Parcels or Landry. I think you just mentioned it 0:07:22.240 --> 0:07:24.800 the other day that had the philosophy that I think 0:07:24.840 --> 0:07:26.440 a lot of coaches and a lot of personnel guys 0:07:26.440 --> 0:07:28.440 around the league have. It's like three to four years, 0:07:28.520 --> 0:07:30.280 and once you get to that point, if you're not 0:07:30.360 --> 0:07:32.520 seeing seeing it from those guys, you know, it's like 0:07:32.640 --> 0:07:34.720 a Rico. You get to four years and if he's 0:07:34.760 --> 0:07:39.520 not showing you, you're gonna said. You said, get the 0:07:39.720 --> 0:07:43.400 f And I was like you no, not what I 0:07:43.480 --> 0:07:45.920 was saying, um no, I mean you have three or 0:07:45.960 --> 0:07:47.840 four years, and if you get to that fourth year 0:07:47.840 --> 0:07:50.400 and you're not really showing anything, and it's like at 0:07:50.400 --> 0:07:52.360 some point you just have there one and assume that 0:07:52.560 --> 0:07:54.280 if he's going to show it at this point, somebody 0:07:54.280 --> 0:07:55.480 else is gonna have to get it out of him 0:07:55.480 --> 0:07:57.400 because what you're doing around here isn't working here. There's 0:07:57.440 --> 0:08:01.680 some exceptions to the rule, Showers, but see that's that's 0:08:01.720 --> 0:08:03.760 where you get go ahead, and it's it's a classic 0:08:03.840 --> 0:08:06.200 case that like Jamie Shower, he's never going to play 0:08:06.200 --> 0:08:09.200 a meaningful snap for the Dallas Cowboys, but I admire 0:08:09.280 --> 0:08:11.120 the hell out of the way he has carved out 0:08:11.120 --> 0:08:13.720 a career for himself by again, the more you can do? 0:08:13.800 --> 0:08:16.320 Can you play Scout team quarterback? Can you please special teams? 0:08:16.520 --> 0:08:18.800 Are you do they love having you around because you're 0:08:18.800 --> 0:08:21.600 such a high character guy? Do you you make everybody 0:08:21.800 --> 0:08:24.720 feel better about themselves? Which clearly he does. Like find 0:08:24.720 --> 0:08:27.440 a person anywhere out here that has a negative thing 0:08:27.440 --> 0:08:29.720 to say about Jamie Showers, Like that type of stuff matters, 0:08:29.760 --> 0:08:33.480 and he will never He's not gonna dress for a 0:08:33.559 --> 0:08:37.640 real Cowboys game. But even when he is eventually let 0:08:37.640 --> 0:08:39.280 go when this is all said and done, he's out 0:08:39.280 --> 0:08:41.960 of practice squad eligibility. I would. I'm just not going 0:08:42.000 --> 0:08:43.440 to be shocked if they find a way to keep 0:08:43.520 --> 0:08:47.199 him here too, because they like having him around. Absolutely. 0:08:47.320 --> 0:08:49.280 Good guys have a way of cowboys, have a way 0:08:49.320 --> 0:08:51.160 of keeping them in the family, and I think that's 0:08:51.320 --> 0:08:54.240 exactly if you're if you're good to people and one 0:08:54.280 --> 0:08:56.520 way or another you can help the football team, they'll 0:08:56.559 --> 0:08:59.000 find a way to keep you around. And Jim I 0:08:59.040 --> 0:09:00.920 have no problem with that. I'm not talking trash on 0:09:01.000 --> 0:09:03.679 Jamale Showers. I admire it. Yeah, all right, let's move 0:09:03.679 --> 0:09:06.120 on to a little blanket coverage to have some statements here. 0:09:06.160 --> 0:09:08.079 I'm gonna roll out for you, guys. You feel in 0:09:08.120 --> 0:09:12.640 the blanks. Here's the first Rod Marinelli sis of Taco. 0:09:12.960 --> 0:09:16.320 He's been very impressed, been very impressed with him right now. 0:09:16.840 --> 0:09:20.360 Been playing hard in there, playing physical, hustling. Just let 0:09:20.440 --> 0:09:25.080 him keep working now. As your statement, I would characterize 0:09:25.120 --> 0:09:30.559 his camp as blank Dave, I would characterize Taco's camp 0:09:30.640 --> 0:09:35.719 as somewhere in between the super positive reviews you hear 0:09:35.760 --> 0:09:38.480 from the likes of Rod Marinelli and the super negatives 0:09:38.520 --> 0:09:40.719 that you hear from fans of media, like that's a 0:09:40.760 --> 0:09:44.880 whole spectrum days. He's he's somewhere in the middle. He 0:09:45.000 --> 0:09:50.160 is assistant. Yeah, okay, all right, thank you. He's he's inconsistent. 0:09:50.240 --> 0:09:53.040 He's I've seen him put together some really nice rushes. 0:09:53.040 --> 0:09:55.200 He had two sacks two days ago. I looked like 0:09:55.240 --> 0:09:57.439 he got the better of Lyle once or twice yesterday, 0:09:57.520 --> 0:10:01.040 Like he's done some stuff. He also knows he's still 0:10:01.080 --> 0:10:04.800 obsessed with the spin move, and he just doesn't flash 0:10:04.840 --> 0:10:07.560 as consistently or as well as you would expect from 0:10:07.600 --> 0:10:11.160 a third year player that was the first round pick. Yeah, 0:10:11.200 --> 0:10:15.640 bo yeah. I mean when I heard Ron Mary Nelly 0:10:15.760 --> 0:10:18.800 say that I was in I was shook, like people 0:10:18.880 --> 0:10:23.400 say around here, shook. He shook me because I was like, whoa. 0:10:23.720 --> 0:10:26.800 And when coming from a guy like Mary Nelly, I mean, 0:10:26.920 --> 0:10:31.120 you have to, you know, you take that into account. 0:10:31.200 --> 0:10:34.679 What he says matters, So it just confused me a 0:10:34.760 --> 0:10:37.920 little bit. I'm like, Okay, maybe I don't understand what 0:10:38.040 --> 0:10:40.160 we're supposed to be watching here, but I think I 0:10:40.240 --> 0:10:42.880 kind of do, so I'm now confused on what you're 0:10:42.880 --> 0:10:47.400 telling me. I will say this though, in the past 0:10:47.440 --> 0:10:51.880 few days, I've seen Taco do some things that at 0:10:51.920 --> 0:10:56.200 least motivates you to watch him in the preseason, in 0:10:56.240 --> 0:10:59.040 the season and hope that he's able to do something. 0:10:59.080 --> 0:11:01.280 You know, he has started. I think the light came 0:11:01.320 --> 0:11:03.880 on a little bit and he has started to progress 0:11:04.200 --> 0:11:06.400 and do some things and put up a battle rather 0:11:06.440 --> 0:11:09.040 than being on the ground all the time. Nick top 0:11:09.080 --> 0:11:13.679 goals camp has been blank. I think it's uh skewed 0:11:13.760 --> 0:11:18.960 by expectations. That's the biggest problem. Yeah, I just think 0:11:19.000 --> 0:11:22.600 now because we don't know if he'll make the team, 0:11:22.679 --> 0:11:26.280 and so if he makes a few plays, it's like, oh, okay, hey, 0:11:26.280 --> 0:11:28.360 maybe he will make the team. You know, the writings 0:11:28.400 --> 0:11:30.560 on the wall. I mean, the opportunities are available for 0:11:30.679 --> 0:11:34.000 him to contribute with the way the defensive imposition is 0:11:34.000 --> 0:11:36.480 shaking out. But I just think that that we don't 0:11:36.720 --> 0:11:38.920 view him the same as a first round pick. That's like, 0:11:38.920 --> 0:11:41.199 when is he gonna make you know, the Pro Bowl? 0:11:41.600 --> 0:11:43.680 You know, with Byron Jones, it's like, if you know, 0:11:43.720 --> 0:11:46.160 he's pretty good, but like his first round pick, he 0:11:46.200 --> 0:11:47.839 should make the Pro Bowl. And then then he finally 0:11:47.880 --> 0:11:50.320 did and he lived up to it and maybe surpassed it. 0:11:50.360 --> 0:11:52.560 But you know, right now, or wonder if he's gonna 0:11:52.600 --> 0:11:54.240 make the team. So when he makes a big play, 0:11:54.240 --> 0:11:58.079 you're like, oh, that's pretty good, when in reality he 0:11:58.120 --> 0:12:00.320 should be making four or five of those plays. But 0:12:00.400 --> 0:12:02.600 he did come off the ball in a drill yesterday 0:12:02.640 --> 0:12:05.079 that I thought it was as quick as I've ever 0:12:05.120 --> 0:12:07.480 seen him. Looked like it was shot out of a 0:12:07.520 --> 0:12:12.880 cannon and went right past Um five cam Flem. Yeah. 0:12:13.120 --> 0:12:16.079 Sometimes I just revert back to players that've been here, 0:12:16.120 --> 0:12:18.240 like seven years ago. Sometimes I just want to say 0:12:18.360 --> 0:12:21.600 Darien Wams, Oh man, Darien Weams. That's a name. Time 0:12:22.320 --> 0:12:25.480 I see Antoine Woods and want to say either carry 0:12:25.520 --> 0:12:31.240 Lofton or Willy Blade. Yeah, yeah, Willy Blade, like eighteen 0:12:31.360 --> 0:12:34.640 years ago. For like he's got to claim to fan 0:12:34.720 --> 0:12:38.520 that's not so good. Remember that hard knocks. No, yeah, 0:12:38.679 --> 0:12:44.599 he number two in practice. Now, can we talk a 0:12:44.640 --> 0:12:47.080 little bit about him real quick, real quick? I will. 0:12:47.280 --> 0:12:49.720 I feel I feel better about Tacos odds of making 0:12:49.760 --> 0:12:51.360 the team than I did a week ago. I'll just 0:12:51.400 --> 0:12:53.880 say that. Okay, So no, I mean, I'm not not 0:12:54.000 --> 0:12:56.520 writing his name and sharpie or anything, but he still 0:12:56.559 --> 0:12:58.920 in pensil Yeah, alright, with a new razor on the 0:12:59.000 --> 0:13:02.439 other hand guy. Um No, I was gonna ask you, 0:13:02.760 --> 0:13:06.920 you know, how Antoine has lost weight and like he's 0:13:06.960 --> 0:13:10.199 like slimming down or to me, I haven't watched him 0:13:10.240 --> 0:13:12.439 a whole ton, but the times I've seen him, I 0:13:12.600 --> 0:13:16.640 feel like he has kind of lost that power that 0:13:16.760 --> 0:13:19.439 we're used to see him from him from like last year. 0:13:19.800 --> 0:13:22.520 Do you feel the same way that he's him losing 0:13:22.559 --> 0:13:24.720 weight has kind of affected the way that he's playing. 0:13:24.760 --> 0:13:26.280 We'll find out. I mean, that's a good that's a 0:13:26.320 --> 0:13:28.840 good question you you wonder about that. I've always said 0:13:28.840 --> 0:13:32.280 I want this big, you know, sloppy looking guy that's 0:13:32.280 --> 0:13:35.719 just hard to Still he's still a big guy and 0:13:36.320 --> 0:13:39.959 he looks he has but I mean, like when you're 0:13:40.000 --> 0:13:42.000 talking about a big plugger in the middle, it might 0:13:42.080 --> 0:13:45.400 be guy. He might be more, you know, chiseled and powerful. Right, 0:13:45.480 --> 0:13:48.120 you can put on strength like a muscle strengths. But 0:13:48.480 --> 0:13:51.839 but it just the maybe I've seen just the bad ones, 0:13:52.000 --> 0:13:54.480 you know, and and missed the good ones. But it 0:13:54.679 --> 0:13:58.000 just made me curious to see how that's affecting him 0:13:58.240 --> 0:13:59.920 in the way he's playing. Part of it be all 0:14:00.000 --> 0:14:03.080 also that last year he was going up against Travis 0:14:03.280 --> 0:14:06.480 and at the time. We didn't know Travis had this syndrome, 0:14:06.840 --> 0:14:09.200 and so what we were seeing was a little skewed 0:14:09.520 --> 0:14:11.800 or very skewed. I would, I would suspect, and so 0:14:11.920 --> 0:14:13.960 we were thinking, oh my god, it's ninety nine. He's 0:14:14.320 --> 0:14:16.400 really like he's battling in there, and this year you 0:14:16.400 --> 0:14:19.160 don't have that same Damn. We watched him during the season, though, 0:14:19.240 --> 0:14:22.040 so you've seen him go up against different guys and 0:14:22.160 --> 0:14:24.480 it still seems a little different, but we'll see. They 0:14:24.560 --> 0:14:26.720 let they let Travis get a one on one rep 0:14:26.800 --> 0:14:28.600 for the first time yesterday, and they put him up 0:14:28.600 --> 0:14:31.520 against Antoine and I just don't think that was a coincidence. Yeah, 0:14:31.520 --> 0:14:33.560 I don't. I don't think that they I don't ask 0:14:33.640 --> 0:14:37.480 for that, or the coaches were guys, and Travis handled 0:14:37.560 --> 0:14:39.960 himself well he did, he did all right. Here's the 0:14:40.200 --> 0:14:44.360 next statement. Yesterday, much to to Nick's delight, we saw 0:14:44.440 --> 0:14:49.880 fleeflickers in practice. Was it gonna say it? Here's the thing, though, 0:14:50.520 --> 0:14:53.080 if I set the over under on how many times 0:14:53.120 --> 0:14:56.160 we will see that this year at three, I take 0:14:56.320 --> 0:15:03.400 the sixteen. I got a way what a game, I think, 0:15:03.440 --> 0:15:08.040 I'll say over because of what happened with the play well, 0:15:08.080 --> 0:15:10.440 it was a flee flicker than the went to Witten 0:15:10.560 --> 0:15:13.400 like out in the flat, So we're not necessarily it's 0:15:13.440 --> 0:15:16.480 not necessarily you know, Terry Glenn down the scene for 0:15:16.560 --> 0:15:18.600 a long touchdown. I mean sometimes it could be. It 0:15:18.680 --> 0:15:19.960 doesn't have to be a home run. It could be 0:15:20.000 --> 0:15:22.080 a first down. So I think there'll be more than that. 0:15:22.080 --> 0:15:23.840 I don't think it'll be kind of hopefully be a 0:15:23.880 --> 0:15:26.400 part of the offense a little bit, but i'll say 0:15:26.480 --> 0:15:31.800 more amber over under three, Uh, let's go over. You know, 0:15:32.440 --> 0:15:34.840 I have hopes in Kellen Moore and what he's doing 0:15:34.880 --> 0:15:37.080 with the offense and just doing mixing it up. And 0:15:37.200 --> 0:15:39.760 when you do that, I don't do it once a season. 0:15:39.960 --> 0:15:43.040 That's not surprising anybody. You know. If you throw it 0:15:43.200 --> 0:15:46.440 here and there, now you can put that in the 0:15:46.520 --> 0:15:48.960 back of the head of the other team's coaches. You 0:15:49.040 --> 0:15:51.480 know that, oh the Cows might do this here and there. 0:15:51.640 --> 0:15:55.880 But I would say over three, Dave, I will definitely 0:15:55.880 --> 0:15:58.040 say over, and I'll tell you why. It wasn't just 0:15:58.200 --> 0:16:00.840 a short pass to Witten. It was a mind screen. 0:16:01.360 --> 0:16:02.880 I don't think I've ever seen that before. I'm not 0:16:02.960 --> 0:16:05.880 saying Calamore came up with it, but I've never seen 0:16:05.960 --> 0:16:09.480 that before, and so when you're basing it off different looks. 0:16:09.840 --> 0:16:12.480 This is also training camp. Like typically, if you're gonna 0:16:12.520 --> 0:16:15.480 run one trick play, you put that in on Wednesday 0:16:15.720 --> 0:16:18.080 of game week and you run it a couple of 0:16:18.160 --> 0:16:19.800 times during the week, like like you know, we're gonna 0:16:19.800 --> 0:16:22.000 have the running back throw it, like they'll work on 0:16:22.080 --> 0:16:24.480 that on game week. This is training camp where you're 0:16:24.560 --> 0:16:27.400 kind of, hey, these are the base concepts and the 0:16:27.560 --> 0:16:29.560 bread and butter stuff that we want to work on 0:16:29.640 --> 0:16:31.320 all year. Now. I don't think that means they'll do 0:16:31.400 --> 0:16:34.400 it every week, but that's to me suggests that it's 0:16:34.440 --> 0:16:38.200 something that they'll look at doing just every net like 0:16:38.320 --> 0:16:40.240 on a way more regular basis than what we're used 0:16:40.240 --> 0:16:42.000 to seeing. And the beautiful part about it is, and 0:16:42.080 --> 0:16:45.000 Nick is sit this many times. There is no there's 0:16:45.040 --> 0:16:47.240 no bad Like you don't have to catch them by surprise, 0:16:47.280 --> 0:16:48.840 because the point is you don't care about catching them 0:16:48.880 --> 0:16:51.400 by surprise. What you care about is I want that 0:16:51.520 --> 0:16:55.280 safety always thinking. I want that those guys always that lot. 0:16:55.440 --> 0:16:58.640 I want all those guys thinking watch the fleeflick watching 0:16:59.120 --> 0:17:01.800 because because that helps your offense. BA. That's just one 0:17:01.840 --> 0:17:04.119 more thing the defense has to be preoccupied with. So 0:17:04.560 --> 0:17:07.760 it really isn't a matter of a surprise attack or 0:17:08.000 --> 0:17:10.560 some surprise play as much as it is. You have 0:17:11.040 --> 0:17:13.360 enough stuff to keep teams off balance, and they don't 0:17:13.400 --> 0:17:15.320 know what's coming at any given moment, so they have 0:17:15.440 --> 0:17:18.360 to stay true to their principles, which opens up opportunities 0:17:18.359 --> 0:17:20.120 for you. What did you you said three and a half? 0:17:20.320 --> 0:17:22.640 Was that your over un three was the overrun? Yeah? Yeah, 0:17:22.680 --> 0:17:25.280 over You would have said seven and a half. Oh, 0:17:26.520 --> 0:17:29.440 I actually I actually thought you guys are except for Nick, 0:17:29.480 --> 0:17:31.280 I thought you always gonna say under. And the reason 0:17:31.320 --> 0:17:34.160 why is because still until we see it in a season, 0:17:34.840 --> 0:17:36.879 this offense, what I know of this offense as long 0:17:36.920 --> 0:17:39.120 as Jason Garrett's been involved in it, is it does 0:17:39.240 --> 0:17:42.680 not take a ton of those kinds of chances. Like 0:17:42.760 --> 0:17:45.399 they aren't a big, you know, trick play kind of 0:17:45.520 --> 0:17:48.240 offense like they are. They kind of run their offense, 0:17:48.280 --> 0:17:50.800 and so until I see it, I kind of think 0:17:51.280 --> 0:17:53.480 that's nice. It may be in the offense. I don't 0:17:53.520 --> 0:17:55.359 know if I expect to see it during the regular season, 0:17:55.400 --> 0:17:57.440 but we'll see. We'll see. All right, let's go and 0:17:57.520 --> 0:17:59.040 take our first break when we come back, I want 0:17:59.040 --> 0:18:00.920 to talk a little bit about this offensive line. Will 0:18:00.960 --> 0:18:03.080 dive in a little bit and talk about some of 0:18:03.119 --> 0:18:05.520 the starters and what we've seen out here from some 0:18:05.600 --> 0:18:08.400 of these guys who we sometimes take for granted because 0:18:08.400 --> 0:18:09.600 they're as good as they are. But we're going to 0:18:09.680 --> 0:18:10.879 break that down a little bit. 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