Speaker 1: First of all, you don't know me. Were all about
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Speaker 1: hair episode. We really did for We really did. Haley
Speaker 1: was feeling like, I know, you guys think Mermaid hair
Speaker 1: was gorgeous. I love that hair. Joy at the top.
Speaker 1: Joy is looking at herself in this episode and goes
Speaker 1: that girl needs a haircut, and Hillary and I both
Speaker 1: just went what sacrilege? Guys? That season three, episode twenty one,
Speaker 1: Over the Hills and Far Away. This episode aired originally
Speaker 1: on April two thousand six. Hillary tell the viewers what
Speaker 1: they've won. I don't even know what the hell we
Speaker 1: watched it was. That was such a weird episode. Listen.
Speaker 1: It was a night before Nellie's wedding. Everyone celebrates a
Speaker 1: trick with a reenactment of their fairy tale, but one
Speaker 1: line from Peyton reveals your true feelings for Luca. Meanwhile,
Speaker 1: Brooks sort of makes amends with Rachel and designs Hailey's
Speaker 1: wedding dress. Also sort of like that. They they've started
Speaker 1: to use the term nately in the episode, which was
Speaker 1: coined online by you know, a fan fan base back then.
Speaker 1: I think that's kind of fun. It's really cute. You
Speaker 1: guys had such an amazing impact on our show. He's
Speaker 1: making it into the script. Uh, this is weird. I
Speaker 1: have to say. All these little skits really fell flat.
Speaker 1: They could have been. It felt like it felt like
Speaker 1: they had a conversation because Thomas Right Tom Right directed
Speaker 1: one of our favorites, and it really feels like there
Speaker 1: had to have been a conversation from the powers that
Speaker 1: be with the director saying, look, these are high school
Speaker 1: kids putting on some skits. None of them does theater.
Speaker 1: It shouldn't feel professional. It should feel a little clunky.
Speaker 1: They're like, it should feel like kids trying to, you know,
Speaker 1: make their best effort, not professional. And it went so
Speaker 1: far in that direction that the skits were hard to watch.
Speaker 1: Hard well. They didn't even fake the audience enjoying the scripts.
Speaker 1: There was no laughter, There was no applause. It was
Speaker 1: just like curtain clothes with no laughter. Does it feel
Speaker 1: like the episode must have been running short too, because
Speaker 1: they didn't cut any of the air out of any
Speaker 1: of it. It was just and why were there There
Speaker 1: was only like three scenes with Lucas and Moira. H
Speaker 1: eisode in like four days or something like we have
Speaker 1: the finale coming up, and they're like, oh yeah, you
Speaker 1: know what, Actually, that's probably a really good point. I
Speaker 1: think that's probably And because of the last episode was
Speaker 1: such a big basketball episode. Sometimes if they had scripts
Speaker 1: like this that were very um location small, like we
Speaker 1: didn't go to a lot of locations, so we didn't
Speaker 1: have a lot of moves, they would cut a day
Speaker 1: from an episode like this to add a day to
Speaker 1: a basketball episode or a stunt episode. Yeah, splits, it
Speaker 1: feels like that. It feels like Tom Right maybe got
Speaker 1: a little cheated. Yeah, and we're sorry that all of
Speaker 1: you at home did as well. I mean in terms
Speaker 1: of rehearsal, dinner ideas, great idea. And I loved our
Speaker 1: scene at the beginning. Yeah, I mean the cute little
Speaker 1: chat and the little screen is up and our chemistry
Speaker 1: is so good and then you you see the recorder
Speaker 1: and is what Brooks doing? And I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: we forgot about this. This is cute. Yes, And then
Speaker 1: the product the wedding dress a little lackluss. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I mean, look, I don't love the collar, but the
Speaker 1: dress was kind of great. The first day we all
Speaker 1: were just like, Okay, Davis came out. I didn't see
Speaker 1: the problem. No, I didn't either well, and especially with
Speaker 1: the snow white reference. I was like, that's the snow
Speaker 1: white collar. Yeah, exactly, Yes, I get it. I get
Speaker 1: it too. Also it worked on you. Thanks. The crown
Speaker 1: was a little much, yeah, but the Halo joke was funny.
Speaker 1: Get into Halo. It's just so strange why. I don't
Speaker 1: know why the dress was so much of a problem.
Speaker 1: I mean, I was great. I also don't know why
Speaker 1: the fight had to escalate between us so intensely, though.
Speaker 1: I guess that did become the point later because you
Speaker 1: delivered that line in such a funny way, like I've
Speaker 1: never seen someone go from excited too heartbroken enraged so quickly,
Speaker 1: and I'm just talking about me. I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: I didn't see that coming. That was funny, Haley James.
Speaker 1: You know, I wish I had played that scene differently though.
Speaker 1: I wish I had let let Haley get more upset,
Speaker 1: like it's her wedding and you know, just let her
Speaker 1: have the flaw of like freaking out that it's not
Speaker 1: what she wanted, and it would have motivated you a
Speaker 1: little bit more to to freak out. I'm watching it
Speaker 1: and going back and going I could have done that better.
Speaker 1: Could I can give you a little more. My question
Speaker 1: was why was Haley boxing with like gatorade in the
Speaker 1: fringe like she's an athlete from it was like, we
Speaker 1: have to show that she's grovved up, she's aggressive right now. Random.
Speaker 1: Remember it was in the script too. It wasn't like
Speaker 1: a like a me being like, yeah, I need somebody
Speaker 1: to do. Can I have like a boxing bag or
Speaker 1: something that it was in the script that I was
Speaker 1: And I remember reading the script and going, oh, okay,
Speaker 1: here's what I like about it. I like it gives
Speaker 1: Haley a personality element, like she's not just all about
Speaker 1: Nathan and school and wandering around like with her book
Speaker 1: bag and being forlorn about relationships. It gave her actually
Speaker 1: something that with a personal interest that she was doing
Speaker 1: because she's not really doing music a lot right now. Um,
Speaker 1: so I like seeing her active. But it was definitely
Speaker 1: a random introduction to that. I mean, is the next
Speaker 1: person that has to box an an animate object in
Speaker 1: her bedroom? I'm just like who on our writing stuff?
Speaker 1: Because in season four I've got a take up boxing
Speaker 1: after attacks, So I'm just like who on our staff
Speaker 1: was like, guys, you know what's hot girls girls boxing,
Speaker 1: Like somebody had a kink that we had to fulfill
Speaker 1: you with your little sweaty tendrils of hair. I love
Speaker 1: boxing me too. I don't know why I never got
Speaker 1: to hit up. Why didn't Brook get to box after
Speaker 1: she got attacked all those years later, I had to
Speaker 1: do it already. Well, damn it, you could have it.
Speaker 1: I hurt my knuckle really bad boxing, Yeah, because I
Speaker 1: had sliced open my knuckle. Remember at the same time
Speaker 1: that I was having to all the boxing stuff was
Speaker 1: stupid anyway. I just somebody had a kink about it.
Speaker 1: Because the boys aren't boxing, It wouldn't been cuter to
Speaker 1: see the boys box also popular at the time, did
Speaker 1: like did it come back in? Was it in all
Speaker 1: the magazine camp or something? Tybo? But what I wish
Speaker 1: we'd had was a little more of it. Yeah, if
Speaker 1: you're gonna have a heavy bag in your apartment, you've
Speaker 1: been boxing for a while, Like, yeah, couldn't we have
Speaker 1: had this cute thing introduction maybe you know, whether it
Speaker 1: was you or you like some he was into it,
Speaker 1: and then the girls had this sort of activity and
Speaker 1: the boys were like, you know, like they're all really
Speaker 1: learning a hit like, it could have been so funny
Speaker 1: if it had continued. I agree. I don't know if
Speaker 1: we ever see it again. Those things are expensive. It
Speaker 1: could have been easy. Nathan comes home like, oh I
Speaker 1: got my old boxing Yeah, look what I found or something.
Speaker 1: I went and took this from my mom's garage. And
Speaker 1: I would be like, I am not having that in
Speaker 1: my living room. We do not live in a gym.
Speaker 1: And then he cut it's not that hard. It's not
Speaker 1: that hard, and it would have filled up a good
Speaker 1: five minutes of our episode. It's wasted so long, like
Speaker 1: the breaks between the skits. That was just just the
Speaker 1: long panning shot of oh, here's another curtain in some
Speaker 1: lights and here's the next old timey silent movie sign
Speaker 1: for what the scene is. Also the animation of those
Speaker 1: uh storybook pages turning that looks like reading Rainbow from
Speaker 1: the eighties. I was like, oh, it's nostalgic, but also,
Speaker 1: who did this? Who did do this? You know what's
Speaker 1: starting to irritate me about my show at this point
Speaker 1: is that it keeps referencing itself over and over and
Speaker 1: over again. It's like we're reliving the Nathan and Haley thing,
Speaker 1: which is like, okay, cute, it's a good device. But
Speaker 1: then also Peyton is always saying all the time. You know,
Speaker 1: someone once said to me, it's like, you know, were
Speaker 1: just always referencing ourselves. Yeah, it kind of felt like
Speaker 1: a whole episode of just reminding everyone where we were.
Speaker 1: Maybe it was like a recap episode before the finale. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because we're close to the end of the season. People
Speaker 1: always leave. It's like did the music they like, there's
Speaker 1: just I don't know, I don't know. It just felt
Speaker 1: it feels like people are getting proud of themselves and
Speaker 1: like cute want But by the way, I think we
Speaker 1: could have done dynamite stuff to relive Nathan and Haley's Yeah,
Speaker 1: it could have been stage better, like if if it
Speaker 1: were taking up different parts of the stage instead of Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're right that it was. The episode was short. That
Speaker 1: has to be it because it should have been. Yes,
Speaker 1: different vignettes on stage. The lights go out in one,
Speaker 1: they go up on the other, they go out on
Speaker 1: that one, they come up on another. Yeah, and and boom,
Speaker 1: boom boom, we get all the shots. Everybody's laughing, ha
Speaker 1: ha ha, it's cute. Yeah, you turned from the stage
Speaker 1: to the bar and it's Karen's cafe and the character
Speaker 1: of Haley is busting tables, and you know, Nathan walks
Speaker 1: in and orders a coffee. Like there could have been
Speaker 1: all these things to make it really snappy, even keeping
Speaker 1: it in tricks. It's clearly we didn't have the budget
Speaker 1: to run around town scavenger hunt of memories for you
Speaker 1: guys or something. But I liked that Marcus made a
Speaker 1: reappearance and he was a wonderful idea of giving somebody
Speaker 1: a second chance. Um, that was really nice. Yeah, it's nice.
Speaker 1: Why didn't we get to keep him? I'm so perplexed.
Speaker 1: He was really good, He's a good actor. He also
Speaker 1: I guess he's very sincere. He must have booked something
Speaker 1: or we munched out on that opportunity. It is my question,
Speaker 1: like who was going to fall in love and was robbed?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, they bombed in the Tutor Center, you know,
Speaker 1: like they could have had they could have had a relationship.
Speaker 1: He could have picked her up after the cooper of
Speaker 1: it all, and that would have been really nice. Why
Speaker 1: did we recreate the pilot? Maybe I was like, I,
Speaker 1: how did I have to watch Champagne? We watched this
Speaker 1: because we just keep referencing ourselves over and over. Group
Speaker 1: car breaking down, and then Marcus palling up in the
Speaker 1: tow truck, and then Peyton calling Nathan for a ride.
Speaker 1: It felt it feels like masturbation, like it's just like
Speaker 1: I'm so pleased with myself, and it also feels like
Speaker 1: a little bit of a lazy device to get to
Speaker 1: when Peyton says or sorry, when Nathan says, don't you
Speaker 1: usually call Lucas for this, and she goes, she's out
Speaker 1: of town, He's out of town? What about Brooke? And
Speaker 1: then it flashes to like it's like, well, I have
Speaker 1: to I have to tell the audience I can't call
Speaker 1: either of my two best friends because I'm in love
Speaker 1: with one and I'm going to upset the other. And
Speaker 1: it's like, so you're doing a repeat thing because it's
Speaker 1: kind Nathan's kind of joking with her. But this was
Speaker 1: like those episodes, you know, Friends in Seinfeld and Who's
Speaker 1: the Boss episodes that they would always do that were
Speaker 1: like like that you said, I don't know why that
Speaker 1: you don't mean where they're just like, let's just rerun
Speaker 1: everything clips from the it's a clip episode. I mean,
Speaker 1: he was always so annoyed when I would turn on
Speaker 1: my favorite sitcom and then it was a Clipse episode,
Speaker 1: I just turned it off. Yeah, of course there were
Speaker 1: a lot of clips. There were so many clips as
Speaker 1: Peyton's having her Tiffany that she's in love with him.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, heavy makeout, Montage Dream
Speaker 1: paint and Lucas. But by the way, I will say
Speaker 1: that it did exactly what it was supposed to do,
Speaker 1: because even in the last episode, I'm like, oh my god, Peyton, Jake,
Speaker 1: Payton and Jake. In the beginning of this, Peyton and Jake,
Speaker 1: and then I see like all the paint and Lucas stuff,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, I mean that works too. I'm open, well,
Speaker 1: and it is exactly to your point. It's a device
Speaker 1: that really works because we were losing Brian to go
Speaker 1: do Prime, and we knew that once he worked with
Speaker 1: Meryl Streep and Uma we blame Mamma forever, we would
Speaker 1: never get him back. And the writers had to pivot
Speaker 1: and like so fast, Yeah, and well you have to
Speaker 1: pivot fast, and you have to pivot intensely if you've
Speaker 1: been setting up Peyton and Jake to the end game
Speaker 1: and now you have to go no, no, no, Actually,
Speaker 1: Payton and Lucas have always been endgame there, like and
Speaker 1: we have forty six scenes we're going to cut you
Speaker 1: in this heavy month. I was to prove it. I
Speaker 1: think the data they were like, it's always been here,
Speaker 1: and then you know what, the audience goes, You're right,
Speaker 1: it's always been there. It's always been there. I like that,
Speaker 1: she blurts it out. At the end of the episode,
Speaker 1: Kayton is mentally ill. She is like, when we think
Speaker 1: about what's happened over the course of her story, I'm serious,
Speaker 1: this child should be in therapy because I'm so uncomfortable.
Speaker 1: I genuinely, I just feel like she I just feel like,
Speaker 1: my mom just told me something about one of my friends.
Speaker 1: I'm like, my god, I'm so sorry. That hit me
Speaker 1: so intensely, and had like I had like a church
Speaker 1: giggle and a tear. Mommy died right her dad's gone.
Speaker 1: She's dating Nathan, who's a nightmare. She goes to Lucas,
Speaker 1: who ends up with her best friend, and then her
Speaker 1: mom shows up and she dies, and then she gets shot,
Speaker 1: and then five seconds later she's dating a guy in
Speaker 1: a rock band who's like much too old. For her,
Speaker 1: and then she's with Jake after this whole customer times
Speaker 1: busing and then just to sit in bed with Lucas
Speaker 1: and be like, oh my gosh, it is so much.
Speaker 1: And I see a lot of Payton criticism where people
Speaker 1: are like, oh my god, and I just need to
Speaker 1: validate that opinion and be like I get it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so much, and this child should not be loving anyone. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she's just going to therapy. Yes, that's it. But that
Speaker 1: wasn't That wasn't something we were talking about on the show.
Speaker 1: And because of the real life practical need to work
Speaker 1: around actors availability, stories had to be bent to the
Speaker 1: cast we had and oof, what a flip. But I
Speaker 1: will say, as someone who is recently, hold hold, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna go on a tangent. We're
Speaker 1: gonna come back. It's all gonna connect. I am not
Speaker 1: a reality TV watcher. I'm not interesting. Sure. I don't
Speaker 1: watch the Housewives, I don't watch The Bachelor. I had
Speaker 1: to host Kelly and Ryan once when she was out
Speaker 1: of town with Ryan with a bachelorette. I didn't know
Speaker 1: who she was. I was very embarrassed. It was like
Speaker 1: it was not cool, Like the Internet made fun of
Speaker 1: me and I made fun of myself. I was like, no, no,
Speaker 1: I agree. I have no idea what's going on. And
Speaker 1: I just I'm like, it's not for me. If I'm
Speaker 1: gonna watch reality TV, it's going to be like a
Speaker 1: home design show, maybe a cooking show. Yeah, I am
Speaker 1: so hard, like deep in the paint on Love Island UK,
Speaker 1: because it's the only one that's good. Guys. She talked
Speaker 1: about it for hours last I was like, I need
Speaker 1: you to know, and all I could think when Brooke
Speaker 1: came in and sat next to Peyton, and Peyton said, Brooke,
Speaker 1: I think I have feelings for Lucas. I was like,
Speaker 1: you know what she's doing is she's telling the girl first.
Speaker 1: It is an ultimate sign of respect in the in
Speaker 1: in the villa, Peyton supported for this choice because she
Speaker 1: didn't go to the boy first. She told the girl first.
Speaker 1: She prioritized her friendship. All I have to say is
Speaker 1: you would have done great on Love Island fantime in
Speaker 1: the villa. It's a big deal. It's just a big deal. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Was our villain trapped together? Right? Because like, people were
Speaker 1: really really mad at Peyton for like telling brook this,
Speaker 1: And I have always struggled with that. I'm like, what
Speaker 1: are you guys talking about? Like, she didn't that's her
Speaker 1: best friend. She wasn't pass aggressive about it. She wasn't
Speaker 1: she the second she was called on it, the very
Speaker 1: first person she goes to to talk to you about it,
Speaker 1: that's where the love story god, I mean, yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't know that Peyton loves any of these people, to
Speaker 1: be perfectly honest, I think she is just damaged. Well,
Speaker 1: she's looking for love to fill a really intense void
Speaker 1: and it's a boyd that's caused by trauma and loss
Speaker 1: and grief. And look, I think it makes sense. I
Speaker 1: can't believe you managed to be a well adjusted human
Speaker 1: being having to play this person. But you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: of course everyone was like enraged and flipped out and
Speaker 1: it was like, what a betrayal. But I actually really
Speaker 1: watching this episode back respect it because it was honest.
Speaker 1: There was no duplicity, there was no um going behind
Speaker 1: Brooks back there, there were not the mistakes that these
Speaker 1: kids had made when they were younger. It was more
Speaker 1: I've really been trying to act like this isn't my reality,
Speaker 1: but this is my reality. I can't keep it from
Speaker 1: you because I love you and it's gonna hurt you,
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna be honest with you because I love you.
Speaker 1: Like that's very emotionally mature. Yeah, there's a lot of
Speaker 1: emotionally mature stuff that these kids do in spite of
Speaker 1: all the craziness. Hayley showing up at Dan's door, Oh
Speaker 1: my god, year old? Did you? Like, how did you
Speaker 1: get there? There's something I need to do. I need
Speaker 1: to do this right now. Yeah, I guess she drove.
Speaker 1: Don't do they drive Hayley drives. I've never seen Hayley
Speaker 1: drive a car. I don't think I have either. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know what she did. Maybe she caught a taxi,
Speaker 1: one of Brooks taxis. And I like that. You kind
Speaker 1: of like it was like you're saying it and there
Speaker 1: was like a giggle in your voice. Who You're like,
Speaker 1: I know this is probably gonna go bad, but I
Speaker 1: love my husband. Yea, so here we are like that.
Speaker 1: It's just being really honoring herself and the fact that
Speaker 1: she wants to be an optimist and she wants to
Speaker 1: give people the benefit of the doubt, and that's an
Speaker 1: active You have to be active to do that. You can't.
Speaker 1: You know that there's a passivity to cynicism. And I
Speaker 1: like that she was vulnerable and capable of just being like, Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do this for me and for Nathan because
Speaker 1: this is the right thing to do. Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: I might regret this, but I will definitely regret not
Speaker 1: doing that. But such a mature thing to I never
Speaker 1: would have done that to an adult in high school,
Speaker 1: to go up to an adult and be like, you're
Speaker 1: an ass. But I'm going to give you the benefit
Speaker 1: of the doubt. See, I feel like you totally would. Yeah,
Speaker 1: You've always been that way. In my time knowing you,
Speaker 1: and we weren't much older than high school, You've always
Speaker 1: been like you're a monster. But I'm gonna say a
Speaker 1: little prayer for you, and I'm also going to bring
Speaker 1: you like a beautiful collage gift like you will over. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I guess I don't know. I'm trying to think about
Speaker 1: high school. I was so always so intimidated by my
Speaker 1: teachers in high school. Yeah, but in real personal relationships not.
Speaker 1: I don't know about authority figures like that, but I
Speaker 1: would agree with Hillary. I think you've always said I
Speaker 1: don't know that I understand your motivations right now. But
Speaker 1: I want you. I want to offer you care. I
Speaker 1: want to be willing to disagree but figure it out. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and that's that's good good parenting. They taught me how
Speaker 1: to do it. I guess um speaking to parents. I
Speaker 1: super love deb and Junk. There scene was the only
Speaker 1: skit that I was like, okay, oh yeah, I wanted
Speaker 1: so much kiser. I'm not even a senior. She did great,
Speaker 1: She did do great. It was so funny to be
Speaker 1: there and have Uncle Cooper not there at the party
Speaker 1: was weird. But he's avoiding Rachel, but he doesn't know
Speaker 1: she's going to be there. Brooke didn't invite her until
Speaker 1: that morning. Yeah. But anything that if I were him,
Speaker 1: anything that had to do with that high school group,
Speaker 1: I would totally avoid when we were in our yeah,
Speaker 1: grewing seventeen year olds when I was in my late twenties,
Speaker 1: so gross, Um, yeah what else? What? Well? What's also
Speaker 1: a little tricky is because we're all together, like, yeah,
Speaker 1: we normally do this on Zoom, so we can take
Speaker 1: notes on our computers or post it notes or random
Speaker 1: receipts whatever we got in front of us at our desk,
Speaker 1: but like, we're together. The whole time we watched this episode,
Speaker 1: we were having snacks and drinking champagne. We we have
Speaker 1: no notes, no notes, we have no notes, but a
Speaker 1: lot of criticism. I don't know what do we love.
Speaker 1: I loved that Lucas got a fund from Key. That
Speaker 1: was a beautiful che up because I would have loved
Speaker 1: to have gotten in tighter on Lucas as he really
Speaker 1: like processed that that's a huge thing to lay on
Speaker 1: a child, And I don't know why Karen wouldn't tell
Speaker 1: him that before they went and looked at colleges, like
Speaker 1: is it an easter egg at the end of this trip,
Speaker 1: where this kid is like, I guess I'll never get
Speaker 1: into these colleges that I actually want to go to,
Speaker 1: never be able to afford it. My dreams are slipping away,
Speaker 1: and she's like, actually, yeah, it's like life's always a
Speaker 1: game show in Tree Hill. Yeah, it's like, okay, surprised
Speaker 1: there's one more prize behind the curtain. I don't know, well,
Speaker 1: it really felt again like scenes of convenience. We had
Speaker 1: to explain why Moira and Chad were not in the
Speaker 1: episode before, so the exposition was, well, we took this
Speaker 1: trip to look at colleges, but also to find ourselves
Speaker 1: again and our hope, And I actually thought that was
Speaker 1: a lovely Yeah, why was the thought the theme of
Speaker 1: the episode? Sorry? I just mean like, instead of having
Speaker 1: the whole thing wrapped around these weird skits, I like
Speaker 1: the skit thing. It just could have been like a
Speaker 1: five minute chunk soliday done like we didn't could have
Speaker 1: taken half the time, would have It would have been
Speaker 1: a cute little thing. But it's the fact that that
Speaker 1: was the setting and we kept jumping back and forth
Speaker 1: to get back to their Why wasn't Chad and Moira
Speaker 1: in the car like I don't know if that was
Speaker 1: out of the opening scene, I don't know, But to
Speaker 1: keep going back to them and set that setting for
Speaker 1: what the future is going to hold could have been
Speaker 1: really nice. So much more dialogue could have been available
Speaker 1: for them. Yeah, we could have had a lot more
Speaker 1: of it, and then you would have felt much more
Speaker 1: of a group of people, you know, Lucas, Karen, Marcus,
Speaker 1: Nathan and Haley. You would have really felt that all
Speaker 1: these people are really trying to move on, but struggling.
Speaker 1: They're still having a hard time, like what's next? How
Speaker 1: do we do it? And are we allowed to feel joy?
Speaker 1: Are we allowed to laugh when our friends do funny
Speaker 1: things for us? And you know, when we do and
Speaker 1: we miss the people who aren't here anymore? How do
Speaker 1: we hold both? Like they could have asked some deeper
Speaker 1: questions and not really had to change the episode much.
Speaker 1: It feels like a missed opportunity roads leading back to
Speaker 1: home and like that being the journey, it's like, how
Speaker 1: do we get back? Um? Then the whole like time
Speaker 1: travel thing going back through Nathan and Haley's journey would
Speaker 1: have been a metaphor for that. But you know, because
Speaker 1: Peyton's driving in, Luke's and Karen are driving in. You know,
Speaker 1: Marcus has got the tow truck now and he had
Speaker 1: that red handkerchief tucked in the back of his jeans,
Speaker 1: like Uncle Keith. Yeah. I wasn't sure if that was
Speaker 1: on purpose or if he just did that because he
Speaker 1: had a red rag in the truck and just felt like,
Speaker 1: as a character thought, oh I'm stick in the back
Speaker 1: of my jeans. I don't know either. Um, I'm sorry, guys,
Speaker 1: Like I don't want to be down on this episode.
Speaker 1: Because I don't want it to be a downer for
Speaker 1: you as listeners to listen to us like talking about
Speaker 1: there's a good stuff about real life, because like we've
Speaker 1: had to go to three thousand weddings at this point.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, we've had to like sit through speeches
Speaker 1: and toasts and slide shows and all the things. What
Speaker 1: are your memorable wedding nick experiences. I know you crashed
Speaker 1: a wedding. Did you mentioned that the other day? I
Speaker 1: sure did. It was so fun and I was so
Speaker 1: scared and I'm still a little scared. But like someone
Speaker 1: ever going to yell at me for that to come back,
Speaker 1: and it's probably past, and you're still terrified. I'm anxious forever. Um,
Speaker 1: I mean probably I'm thinking about it because these are
Speaker 1: the things we've done together. But you know, you ask
Speaker 1: about what's memorable. I think about your wedding. I think
Speaker 1: about you guys at my wedding. Like I don't know,
Speaker 1: I I think there's something really amazing about what what
Speaker 1: the milestone of a wedding is and and what it
Speaker 1: means to be people's community. I like having a job
Speaker 1: at a wedding. Do you know, do you get appointed
Speaker 1: with like a thing, and Brooke does it in this episode.
Speaker 1: I don't I don't know how Brooke makes a dress
Speaker 1: and then gets the dress rejected in the same day,
Speaker 1: and then goes shopping and sees Rachel punch a mirror
Speaker 1: and then go straight to throw the rehearsal dinner party
Speaker 1: that night, and then when informs the whole night too.
Speaker 1: By the way, Nathan did Haley come home and she's
Speaker 1: made a bedspread dress? That happened And the bedspread don't
Speaker 1: forget is the material for Karen's wedding dress to Keith
Speaker 1: that she made into the bed spread for Nathan and
Speaker 1: Haley and then took back to make Hayley's wedding dress.
Speaker 1: It's like God all the job. I mean, I love
Speaker 1: Brook for it. It's same sweet and dressed with her
Speaker 1: a good friend. It's so generous. When did she have
Speaker 1: look she made an entire fashion collection in six hours,
Speaker 1: ten episodes ago. I think Brook has super fast, superhuman
Speaker 1: So if she's killed, yeah, I liked at Tyler Hilton
Speaker 1: and Megan Park sweading at the end of the night.
Speaker 1: It was at this vineyard and at the end of
Speaker 1: the night, like we had to take all the I
Speaker 1: don't know, decorations down and I don't know that anyone
Speaker 1: had really thought it through. And so at the end
Speaker 1: of the night, like some people had taken off in
Speaker 1: busses and ubers and things, and I'm just there with
Speaker 1: like le Norris and it's like you want to tackle
Speaker 1: this and they were like these shop It was just
Speaker 1: like huge garlands that we were like gathering up, and
Speaker 1: no one's wearing shoes and it was so sweaty and
Speaker 1: we were real drunk. It was such a fun memory
Speaker 1: of like I don't know, like you go and you
Speaker 1: go to the party and you do the thing, but
Speaker 1: then the real work begins of like now you are
Speaker 1: a family, Now you are committed, and this is your community.
Speaker 1: And so it was a nice memory of us all
Speaker 1: just kind of like carrying the ship, like let's just
Speaker 1: we're all going to carry the shout with you. And
Speaker 1: Tyler had this uncle that I really liked flirting with
Speaker 1: and he was such a good dancer and we I
Speaker 1: was like, hey, I think it was uncle John was
Speaker 1: his name. Uh yeah, we had a great time. I
Speaker 1: was like, you want to carry this stuff together. I
Speaker 1: want to let me carry this garland. Yeah. I like
Speaker 1: the sweaty parts of weddings. Yes, everybody just piled into
Speaker 1: the dance floor, yeah, or just like like lifting up
Speaker 1: the dress so the bride can pee. Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1: That one of my best friends was getting married and
Speaker 1: she had to pee, and I went in the bathroom
Speaker 1: with her, and somebody had put a candle on the
Speaker 1: back of the toilet and her dress caught on fire.
Speaker 1: Oh no, what happened the back of it? Like all
Speaker 1: the crinline, I mean, oh, just was in there and
Speaker 1: then she's you know, I kind of helped her gather
Speaker 1: her dress up and it went all up around her
Speaker 1: in her hands and up around her waist, and then
Speaker 1: she I put her in the stall and shut the door,
Speaker 1: just like oh wait, and something smells, and all of
Speaker 1: a sudden she was like, oh no, oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: out of the thing. We just put the fire up.
Speaker 1: But she definitely got married in a dress that was
Speaker 1: like burnt underneath. That's terrified. Yeah, it was pretty scary.
Speaker 1: That reminds me. I remember thinking like, I've just never
Speaker 1: known a cooler person. One of my best friends from
Speaker 1: college got married I don't know ten twelve years ago now,
Speaker 1: and another one of our girlfriends from college. We all
Speaker 1: lived together at USC made her dress. She's a great designer,
Speaker 1: and it was this incredible like gold beaded bodice with
Speaker 1: layered huge like ball gown skirts, and we got to
Speaker 1: the reception and she pulled out like fabric shears and
Speaker 1: we cut her wedding gown into a mini dress. Shut up,
Speaker 1: and like she worked in fashion, worked at magazines. Is
Speaker 1: Jeff like truly the chicest person I know. And to
Speaker 1: see someone with like one of the most enviable fashion
Speaker 1: collections that I've ever seen be so unprecious and was
Speaker 1: just like it's time, let's go, and like we just
Speaker 1: hacked it off and she ran out on the dance
Speaker 1: floor and I was like, this is the cool I
Speaker 1: need to see that in a movie. That it felt
Speaker 1: like a movie, and I remember being like, I'm going
Speaker 1: to write that into a scene someday, so we need
Speaker 1: to do it. Yeah, that's sexy, okay. And also it's
Speaker 1: like the groom to watch that, just like all her
Speaker 1: bridesmaids like cutting off her clothes. I was like, this
Speaker 1: is it. Yeah, I'm cutting off all the deadweight, starting
Speaker 1: a new, brand new life together. I did none of that.
Speaker 1: I was like obviously so amped on making a dress
Speaker 1: that ever your dress is literally I would never and
Speaker 1: but there was definitely a part of me that was
Speaker 1: like this is my exact like this moment, dream for us,
Speaker 1: for our family, Like this thing tells a story. And
Speaker 1: then it was like time to party. I want to
Speaker 1: be a disco ball and you were like, this is
Speaker 1: what I look like on the inside. Glamour just sequence
Speaker 1: how many wedding dresses did we have on our show?
Speaker 1: Has anyone ever done that? Tally? Because I know I
Speaker 1: wore a couple. I know Joy wore a couple. Who
Speaker 1: made you wear? I just did the one which was
Speaker 1: actually so fun. When I was at season eight that
Speaker 1: we did my wedding, I think so. And it was
Speaker 1: really fun because I had studied, like when Brooke really
Speaker 1: became a fashion designer, I started going and like shadowing designers.
Speaker 1: I'd go to fashion Week and I'd go meet and
Speaker 1: I just I was like, I want to learn. I
Speaker 1: really want to know a lot about how this industry works.
Speaker 1: And I worked with a designer that I really loved
Speaker 1: and I designed Brooks wedding dress. What you did? Yeah,
Speaker 1: are you kidding? Yeah? I didn't know that And it
Speaker 1: was the cool like, I mean, we did it together obviously,
Speaker 1: Like I can barely draw stick figures, so the idea
Speaker 1: in my head really worked. But I wouldn't have been
Speaker 1: we did this thing together, and it's like it just
Speaker 1: felt really special to do that for Broke Davis. I
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, girl, i'm'll be right here with you.
Speaker 1: Love that. I love all those personal touches, Like I
Speaker 1: loved that you had a tattoo artist at your wedding, Hillary,
Speaker 1: I loved it there. Now, like our circle of friends
Speaker 1: all has the same tattoos, so if we ever worked
Speaker 1: together again, like Jared and Jeffrey all have the same
Speaker 1: tattoo now, it's very cute. And Danil, Kevin rom and
Speaker 1: I all have the same tattoo now, and it's just like, okay,
Speaker 1: well we did it. It's a family thing. There's this
Speaker 1: got like the one cell. There was a flash sheet
Speaker 1: at the wedding right and randomly on the flash sheet
Speaker 1: like a brain mantis, And I was like, who's going
Speaker 1: to get the brain mantis? Who did it? Jeremy Sisto
Speaker 1: stop and decided to get it, like on his torso
Speaker 1: so pulled his whole shirt off at the wedding and
Speaker 1: it's like getting this it was just like first tattoo
Speaker 1: and he I think he let his kid pick it out.
Speaker 1: It was like it was a whole thing. But it
Speaker 1: was just like, and now we all have forever souvenirs.
Speaker 1: I love that. At the back of the museum grounds
Speaker 1: in Tulsa, there's this amazing it's an art piece, but
Speaker 1: it's a cabin, like a full cabin, and it's Grant
Speaker 1: and his favorite spot at the museum. And we had
Speaker 1: talked about maybe we'll set up like a whiskey bar
Speaker 1: in the cabin that people can go find. Maybe, Oh
Speaker 1: my god, I was like, Hilary and jem this person
Speaker 1: do a dad'st their wedding. Maybe we should have whiskey
Speaker 1: and tattoos in the cabin. And then we walked to
Speaker 1: the grounds at night and realized like you had to
Speaker 1: cross a river like someone it's like, actually so far
Speaker 1: from where the reception was. I was like, people will
Speaker 1: get lost, we will never see them again. We will
Speaker 1: lose people at the museum. It's to turn into and
Speaker 1: so we decided against it. But Grant was like, well,
Speaker 1: if we do that, I'll get my first tattoo at
Speaker 1: our wedding, and I'm I kind of that's the one
Speaker 1: three party waiting to happen. Like at the end of
Speaker 1: a wedding, everybody's gone and there's like four people who
Speaker 1: are left and we're just like we're lost. Were so
Speaker 1: lost the museum in the ground. So what you're saying
Speaker 1: is we're going to write a rom com about a wedding.
Speaker 1: That's it. I'm ready. We just got home from tour.
Speaker 1: You guys, I feel like we were taking very good
Speaker 1: care of It was so fun. Yeah, you took really
Speaker 1: good care of us, driving us around in that RV.
Speaker 1: Every tiber, took care of us, every hotel. Well. In fact,
Speaker 1: when Hillary had to park the r V on the
Speaker 1: other side of the George Washington Bridge in New York
Speaker 1: because in Jersey, because she didn't want to drive the
Speaker 1: RV in New York City, understandably, there's no place to
Speaker 1: put the park. So we parked the RV in Jersey
Speaker 1: and then imfortly and then uber like shuffled us over.
Speaker 1: We pulled up in those SUVs to pick us up.
Speaker 1: We're like, what's going on. We were like, we're on
Speaker 1: a road trip, but we need to go to the city.
Speaker 1: And ropes, what if I got myself into But then
Speaker 1: we got to the Omni in four of our cities
Speaker 1: and it was just so nice and luxurious. Thank you
Speaker 1: so much, Omni. We have listener questions. This is great
Speaker 1: because we are talking about our weird hobbies. Mary wants
Speaker 1: to know y'all said, you have so many weird hobbies.
Speaker 1: What's the weirdest? What's your favorite? Which ones do you
Speaker 1: still do today? I mean, what's your definition? Remember when
Speaker 1: I would knit? Oh my god, joy you knitting? It
Speaker 1: was so that's super weird, I guess. But maybe for
Speaker 1: like a twenty year old that I will say, I
Speaker 1: do wish that I could knit. You could. You just
Speaker 1: have to learn how to use it cast on right,
Speaker 1: But I just thought allow, But like, nits are expensive.
Speaker 1: I saw a sweater recently that I wanted and I
Speaker 1: picked it up and I was like, oh, sorry, it
Speaker 1: was a nine hundred and fifty dollar sweater. But I
Speaker 1: could knit this. And then I was like, actually, maybe
Speaker 1: here's the pattern. I don't know what other hobbies hobbies
Speaker 1: do we have. I kind of like, well, Hillary, you
Speaker 1: and I both like taxidermy, though we don't do it.
Speaker 1: Some geese that are waiting for stuff, and went out
Speaker 1: and found a skin out by our pool, and uh,
Speaker 1: I just brought it inside and I just kind of,
Speaker 1: I don't know, decorated with it and I put it
Speaker 1: on a plant, and I didn't realize how upsetting it
Speaker 1: would be to like other people in my house. But yeah,
Speaker 1: if you don't have dead things everywhere, how do you
Speaker 1: know you're alive? I love them? Have you been to
Speaker 1: Madame day Role in Paris? The very first convention we
Speaker 1: ever did? I was like, sorry, everyone, I have somewhere
Speaker 1: to be. Yes, I love that. Do you know what
Speaker 1: this place is? That's the cool like museum looking Okay,
Speaker 1: it's unbelievable and you can buy it all. It's all
Speaker 1: for sale. It's so beautiful, all the entomology of the bugs,
Speaker 1: all of them, so many birds and beautiful animals. Have
Speaker 1: this cool loose sight paperweight. It's a rectangle. I don't
Speaker 1: know what's that three three by four inches, maybe with
Speaker 1: this huge beetle in it from the fifties. Gorgeous. I
Speaker 1: love it so beautiful and I want more, And then
Speaker 1: I'm like, but how many? When does it get weird?
Speaker 1: If there's just little squares with bugs all over my house,
Speaker 1: like we'll put them all up on the bathroom all
Speaker 1: or something. Maybe I need one of those big framed things.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Yah. Do you guys remember the hobgoblin
Speaker 1: that was in my house in North Carolina on the bar. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So there's this. There's this artist that works with Giomo
Speaker 1: del Toro all the time named Thomas Cubler, and I
Speaker 1: collected his work when we lived in Wilmington's be because
Speaker 1: like all the like Anne Rice and Trent Resner did,
Speaker 1: and I wanted to. So he makes these very realistic
Speaker 1: looking like goblins and demons and circus freaks and like
Speaker 1: you know that kind of stuff. And I decided that
Speaker 1: I was gonna too, Like I was gonna do it,
Speaker 1: and so like went to Michael's, got all the sculpi,
Speaker 1: got like all like this stuff to make dolls. And
Speaker 1: when Matt Brookman, remember worked on our crews, like they
Speaker 1: were having a baby and they made so much fun
Speaker 1: of my hobgoblin. So I made a hobgoblin for their
Speaker 1: baby as a baby and their dog ate it. He
Speaker 1: was like, we don't need this in the house. But
Speaker 1: I was always really into that. And so then during
Speaker 1: the pandemic. When Jeffrey and I were doing Friday Night In,
Speaker 1: we had Ray Shorn from Better Call Saul on our show,
Speaker 1: and she was like, oh, hey, sorry, we're in my workroom.
Speaker 1: I make these dolls. And I was like, shot, you're
Speaker 1: my person, Oh my god, to make these dolls. Yeah,
Speaker 1: sometimes you should have to make a little demon doll.
Speaker 1: You know, that's not weird, it's interesting. I've definitely never
Speaker 1: made a demon, but I've gotten really into taking old vessels,
Speaker 1: like random old bowls or old vases and covering them
Speaker 1: in air clay and then spraying them in like textured
Speaker 1: terra cotta spray paint or like textured concrete spray paint,
Speaker 1: or I'm plants in it, like I am fully in
Speaker 1: my coastal grandmother era in such an intense way. But
Speaker 1: I put in I'm like, I'm like, I'll just put
Speaker 1: you lift to sleep in there in my bathroom. Will
Speaker 1: smell like a spa. It's so, it's like such a
Speaker 1: weird hobby. But I saw this video on TikTok and
Speaker 1: then my friend Sammy and I immediately started doing it.
Speaker 1: And you made those mushrooms. Oh yeah, you showed me
Speaker 1: a video of the craft, and I'm like, I feel
Speaker 1: the other weird thing that I do. And I do
Speaker 1: this all the time, and I think it became like
Speaker 1: a set hobby because you know, we live away from
Speaker 1: home so often. I don't have yeah, like I don't
Speaker 1: have all my stuff with me. I have so many
Speaker 1: secret Pinterest boards for homes that I do not own,
Speaker 1: probably never will, that I've decorated completely. Like if I
Speaker 1: ever had a barn in Upstate New York, it would
Speaker 1: look like this. If I ever had a house in Taos,
Speaker 1: New Mexico, it would look like this. If I were
Speaker 1: to live on the lake in Austin, Texas, this is
Speaker 1: what my house would look like like late at night.
Speaker 1: This is how I unwind when I get home from
Speaker 1: set and it's like two am, and I'm amped because
Speaker 1: I've had seven coffees. I'm like, let me just design
Speaker 1: a house. You have got to meet my friend me, right,
Speaker 1: you know? Yes, Okay, So this is what she does.
Speaker 1: Later she just sits and on Pinterest. And I asked her.
Speaker 1: I talked to her about TV shows all the time,
Speaker 1: and I'm trying to like, have you seen this? She's like,
Speaker 1: all I want to do? I have two kids. I
Speaker 1: have a very busy life. All I do when I
Speaker 1: go to bed, it's just Pinterest. That's all I want
Speaker 1: to do is decorates, decorate houses and just make boards.
Speaker 1: I can't wait to talk to her if I have
Speaker 1: cords of tiles, wall wall, treatments. It's it's truly the thing.
Speaker 1: I feel a little high just talking to you, like
Speaker 1: love it. I feel like my pupils are dialect. I'm
Speaker 1: just like. We have a follow up question. Have you
Speaker 1: ever played an interior designer? Oh? You should? But the
Speaker 1: question is from Lucille. She says, what's your top favorite
Speaker 1: Phoebe TV film character you've ever played? Um, you know,
Speaker 1: would it be your OT character or whatever? But but yeah,
Speaker 1: you should play an interior Like you should build a
Speaker 1: brand while you're playing your interior. I don't disagree with
Speaker 1: you could launch that and like, can't I just go
Speaker 1: do one of those TV shows where I do makeovers
Speaker 1: for people who deserve them of their homes. I would
Speaker 1: literally love nothing more. I would be so happy do it.
Speaker 1: Do it? You should? That's an easy we're putting it
Speaker 1: out there, Okay, Dyson, both of you call us. It's
Speaker 1: a really interesting question though that Lucy asks, I can't
Speaker 1: pick a character because to me, it feels like choosing
Speaker 1: between friends. Yeah. They're not um, They're not like on
Speaker 1: paper to us, they're people. I mean, I could say
Speaker 1: when I had the most fun to hang out with? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: If you could hang out with any character that you've
Speaker 1: ever played, who would it be like if you had
Speaker 1: to call someone and be like, yo, girl, we're going
Speaker 1: out tonight. You know what. I did a movie called
Speaker 1: Unexpected Christmas, cute little Christmas movie, and I really liked
Speaker 1: that character. She was fun and weird and like I
Speaker 1: would hang out with her. I can't remember what her
Speaker 1: name was. Jamie was the guy, and my character's name
Speaker 1: was Dang. I don't know. So you never talked to yourself.
Speaker 1: It's so much harder to remember your yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: I've got I can't even remember all this we've done.
Speaker 1: At this point. She has been a wheel I think
Speaker 1: we should yeah, alright, most likely to lock their keys
Speaker 1: in their car while you're looking directly at the department.
Speaker 1: When Maria was in the backseat, I was look, I
Speaker 1: was in West Hollywood, I had I just got out
Speaker 1: of the car and she you know, it was fine
Speaker 1: there was No. I was perfectly willing to break the window.
Speaker 1: And it was very quick. The fire department was very close.
Speaker 1: I wasn't in the middle of nowhere, but that's it.
Speaker 1: You don't want to break the wind because and there's
Speaker 1: glass all over your baby. Like, yeah, I would have
Speaker 1: broken a the driver's side window and gotten her. She
Speaker 1: was all the way, you know, like it's fine. But
Speaker 1: it was definitely a moment of like, oh, I can
Speaker 1: never ever do this again. Scary. You also started to
Speaker 1: realize your muscle memory, like you've spent your whole life
Speaker 1: getting out of your car, slamming the door and clicking
Speaker 1: the button. Yeah, you had a brand new baby, and
Speaker 1: you're just your body clicks the button or or clicks
Speaker 1: the button on the door. You know what. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. You like open it, you click it,
Speaker 1: and suddenly too many things and oh my god, there
Speaker 1: everything is different. Now. What a moment. Yeah, for all
Speaker 1: your moms out there who have done that, you're not alone. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean we did a storyline about that on our show.
Speaker 1: Oh wait, we did wait wait, In later seasons, we
Speaker 1: sure did. Oh my gosh, that's right. It was a
Speaker 1: big scanned You have not seen the episode. Hillary, We'll
Speaker 1: get there in five years. I'm sitting here like what
Speaker 1: You're like, I have to look this up on Wikipedia,
Speaker 1: you know, when you know when I give people the
Speaker 1: daggers of death. I had to do that to sweet
Speaker 1: sweet Austin because it was like in our storyline, and like,
Speaker 1: even I felt bad. That is an episode I remember
Speaker 1: watching and I watched my face make the face in
Speaker 1: the shot coming down the hospital hall, and I was like,
Speaker 1: oh man, I would not want to be on the
Speaker 1: receiving end of that face on that person, and it
Speaker 1: happens to be my face, and I'm uncomfortable. Done. Um,
Speaker 1: we gotta be wedding coming up. I think in the
Speaker 1: next episode we're getting ready for it. I hope you
Speaker 1: guys are all psyched and ready. Next episodes of the
Speaker 1: finale of season three. Oh my god, we did it.
Speaker 1: We did it. We've been going and going and going,
Speaker 1: and we're just gonna keep going. Thank you for hanging
Speaker 1: out with us, everybody. Everyone'll see you next week. Hey,
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