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<v Speaker 1>What is up?

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<v Speaker 2>What's going on?

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody?

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<v Speaker 3>This is the Beatdown Podcast. Welcome into another episode. I

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<v Speaker 3>am your host and you're right for the Washington Commanders,

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<v Speaker 3>Zach Selby and guys.

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<v Speaker 1>The Commanders one in the Meadowlands. That's it's amazing.

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<v Speaker 3>They swore the Giants for the first time since twenty

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<v Speaker 3>twenty one season with the twenty seven to twenty two victory.

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<v Speaker 3>Wasn't exactly the prettiest win, but it was efficient and

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<v Speaker 3>they got the job done, which is really the most

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<v Speaker 3>important thing. They are now seven and two for the

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<v Speaker 3>first time since nineteen ninety six. I was four years old,

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<v Speaker 3>just just a wee lad back in the day.

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<v Speaker 1>And now they are.

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<v Speaker 3>Heading back to Northwest Stadium to take on the Pittsburgh Steelers,

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<v Speaker 3>a big interconference matchup here. Russell Wilson is flying high

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<v Speaker 3>right now. I mean, what's the what is the Seals

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<v Speaker 3>version of Let's rile, Let's weld?

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<v Speaker 1>Is that? What that is?

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<v Speaker 3>Either way, the Steelers are doing really well right now,

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<v Speaker 3>six and two, coming up of buy a week. So

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<v Speaker 3>how did the Commanders pull off this win and go

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<v Speaker 3>eight and two for the first time since maybe eighty six? Well,

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<v Speaker 3>that is definitely what we're going to be talking about.

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<v Speaker 3>Joining me today is Logan Paul and Algaldi. You can

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<v Speaker 3>find him on the Algaldi podcast. Guys, how are we doing?

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<v Speaker 4>I'm doing great too, Yeah, doing well, man. Super pumped

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<v Speaker 4>for this game. You know, I'm actually married to a

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<v Speaker 4>Steelers fan, so this is an especially big game in

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<v Speaker 4>my household. But really excited with what's going on with

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<v Speaker 4>the Commanders right now.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, since you brought that, I gotta know, like,

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<v Speaker 3>what is the what is the dynamic there?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean she's from Pittsburgh, she came down here

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<v Speaker 4>to teach and diehard Steelers span Her dad was a

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<v Speaker 4>season taken older for years, and you know, they're used

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<v Speaker 4>to a certain caliber football up there with you know,

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<v Speaker 4>the Steelers not having had a losing season in forever

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<v Speaker 4>and having just you know, three head coaches over the

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<v Speaker 4>last you know, two hundred years or whatever this dad is.

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<v Speaker 4>So it's really nice to have a team now that

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<v Speaker 4>is right on that level, if not.

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<v Speaker 5>Above that level. I mean, this is great.

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<v Speaker 4>This is a big game on Sunday afternoon, so super

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<v Speaker 4>funp Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>It really is, and I'm really excited for it. You know, again,

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<v Speaker 3>I've never been seven and two with this franchise. One

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<v Speaker 3>went away from doubling the wind toll they have them

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<v Speaker 3>last year, which is always fantastic. But the people who

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<v Speaker 3>are listening, they know the spield, they know the deal. Here.

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<v Speaker 3>We're gonna be asking these guys three questions, one offense,

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<v Speaker 3>one of defense, and one more of a general question.

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<v Speaker 3>There will be points that will be given out at

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<v Speaker 3>the end of each round, and since I am the

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<v Speaker 3>host of this podcast, I get decide the winner. That

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<v Speaker 3>is a heavy burden that is rested upon my shoulders.

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<v Speaker 3>But you shouldn't focus too much on on the results.

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<v Speaker 3>You shouldn't focus too much on who is the designate

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<v Speaker 3>of the winner, to be more focused on the points

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<v Speaker 3>and the objective opinions that these guys are gonna be

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<v Speaker 3>bringing out. And with all that being said, let's just

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<v Speaker 3>jump right into it, starting with the guy we mentioned earlier,

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<v Speaker 3>Russell Wilson. And ever since he replaced Justin Fields as

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<v Speaker 3>the Steelers starting quarterback, they've really done a good job.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I only know a lot of people were

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<v Speaker 3>really expecting him to put out some of the more

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<v Speaker 3>Seattle Seahawks asque performances that he was putting out with

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<v Speaker 3>the last couple of weeks Agains steel with Steelers, but

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<v Speaker 3>he really has had that offense working in a very

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<v Speaker 3>different way. And dan Quinn even mentioned it in his

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<v Speaker 3>in his Wednesday press conference that this guy is an

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<v Speaker 3>exceptional deep ball thrower, and over the last couple of weeks,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, that's exactly what he's been. Thirteenth on deep

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<v Speaker 3>passes in terms of overall gray from Pro Football Focus

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<v Speaker 3>and the average depth of target for Russell Wilson on

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<v Speaker 3>deep passive twenty plus the yards is thirty six as

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<v Speaker 3>third in the NFL already. So in terms of in

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<v Speaker 3>terms of how the Commanders are going to be able

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<v Speaker 3>to stop this guy with the secondary that is improving.

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<v Speaker 3>And obviously they did just completely trade for larsh Marshall

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<v Speaker 3>atam or. I don't we don't exactly know when he's

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<v Speaker 3>going to be playing, and we know that he's often

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<v Speaker 3>going to be playing in the near future.

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<v Speaker 1>We're just gonna win.

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<v Speaker 3>UH. But in terms of how they can prevent these

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<v Speaker 3>explosive passing plays, which UH does, has come up a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit here and there. There were a couple of

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<v Speaker 3>plays against the Giants where that was a little bit

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<v Speaker 3>of an issue, but Logan starting with you, like when

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<v Speaker 3>you when you're when you're looking at the tape on

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<v Speaker 3>the Steelers, like and you're trying to figure out the matchups,

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<v Speaker 3>like what are some things you know, the committerer should

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<v Speaker 3>do to be able to prevent Wilson from being able

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<v Speaker 3>to make these exposive passing plays on them.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so I think, you know, one of the things

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<v Speaker 2>that jumps out to me when you're watching the Steelers

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<v Speaker 2>film is that, like, that's not an overly complex offense.

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<v Speaker 2>And what I mean by that, they don't get in

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<v Speaker 2>a ton of bunches. There's not a ton of shifts,

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<v Speaker 2>there's not a ton of movement, you know, very kind

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<v Speaker 2>of you know, agonist to what it was when Arthur

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<v Speaker 2>Smith was in Atlanta, which was a little bit surprising

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<v Speaker 2>to me. And so they really are just kind of

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<v Speaker 2>they're running the football, they're kind of hitting some play

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<v Speaker 2>action looks, they're trying to get Russ out of the pocket.

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<v Speaker 2>And then when they need these explosive plays like they're

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<v Speaker 2>it's not like, oh, we're gonna run two posts on

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<v Speaker 2>a rail and get the pick route and get Pickens open.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like Pickens is running a vertical route. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 2>throw the ball to him and he's gonna make me

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<v Speaker 2>right on this fifties fifty contested catch. So to me,

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<v Speaker 2>there's nothing is there a lot of mystery. It's just

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<v Speaker 2>about to me matchups, then understanding like how to play

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<v Speaker 2>that deep ball opportunity. And then I think, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>how you affect him as a passer because he's not

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<v Speaker 2>a big guy, he can't see very well, and he

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<v Speaker 2>does remind me a little bit of the Arizona game

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<v Speaker 2>versus Kyler Murray in terms of kind of how it works.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like, if you can't find that explosive chunk play,

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<v Speaker 2>he's not super effective from the pocket. So to me,

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<v Speaker 2>it's like, can we find a way to create a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit of pressure on Russell Wilson. The offensive line's

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<v Speaker 2>been a little bit banged up. They've got their backup

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<v Speaker 2>center and backup right guard Rodger Jones has struggled pretty

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<v Speaker 2>pretty tremendously over the last couple of weeks in terms

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<v Speaker 2>of past pass blocking, and I think that's one of

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<v Speaker 2>the reasons they've been so committed to running the football,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe as a way to get him settled in. And

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<v Speaker 2>then I think the other thing that's important to just

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<v Speaker 2>understand is these are fifty to fifty contested catch opportunit

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<v Speaker 2>co unities. They are not going to hit on all

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<v Speaker 2>of them. And I think when you look at that

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<v Speaker 2>Jets game as a really good kind of sample size

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<v Speaker 2>of this, George Pickens makes three tremendous catches in contested

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<v Speaker 2>catch situations. If he drops two of those, which is

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<v Speaker 2>exactly what they are, it's fifty to fifty. It's just

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<v Speaker 2>pure statistics that they're not going to come down with

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<v Speaker 2>all of them. They probably lose that football game. So

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<v Speaker 2>what I would say is like, probably pick your best matchup,

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<v Speaker 2>which is sent Benjamin Saint Jewish, throw different covert structures

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<v Speaker 2>at them, and make sure that that you're giving different

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<v Speaker 2>looks so that when they do throw that deep ball,

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes it's banding man, sometimes it's covered two. And then

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<v Speaker 2>the other thing that I think is incredibly important in

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<v Speaker 2>terms of stopping Russell Wilson in this offense and getting

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<v Speaker 2>out of getting them out of their comfort zone is

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<v Speaker 2>being very effective with the commander's offense and scoring a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of points, getting them out of the type of

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<v Speaker 2>offense they want to run and get them into a

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<v Speaker 2>more conventional drop back, which I don't think would be

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<v Speaker 2>very successful for them. So I know I throw a

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<v Speaker 2>lot out there, but to me, the offense got to

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<v Speaker 2>stop the run. Commander's offense has to be have to

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<v Speaker 2>get them in a good game flow and get them

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<v Speaker 2>out of this this kind of this shot played down

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<v Speaker 2>the field type environment and make them kind of run

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<v Speaker 2>more efficient passing attack. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you mentioned a lot of your points there, and

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<v Speaker 3>I want to I'll circle back on those on a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit, but I really want to focus on the

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<v Speaker 3>other part of this explosive passing attack, which would be

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<v Speaker 3>George Pickens. And you brought him up and right now

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<v Speaker 3>he's ninth in the NFL with contested contested catch targets

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<v Speaker 3>with eighteen just one one one behind Late Neighbors. And

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<v Speaker 3>you know, uh, goalie, we'll switch over to you because

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<v Speaker 3>I think you know, George Pickens is an interesting matchup

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<v Speaker 3>for this Commander secondary. And again we don't know exactly

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<v Speaker 3>when Marshall Lattimore is going to play as he gets

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<v Speaker 3>up to speed, but in this current iteration that we

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<v Speaker 3>have this Commander secondary right now.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you what do you how do you how

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<v Speaker 1>do you expect the you know, Joe A.

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<v Speaker 3>Junior in this and this Commander secondary to address the

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<v Speaker 3>challenge of t and then limit George Pickens.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>So Pickens is a really interesting guy. He's very good,

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<v Speaker 4>he's very talented, but he also can be a head case.

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<v Speaker 4>There have been issues with Pickens during his time with

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<v Speaker 4>the Steelers, and he strikes me as someone who you

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<v Speaker 4>can get inside his head and you can potentially rattle him.

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<v Speaker 4>And you know, I know that Benjamin Saint Jews has

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<v Speaker 4>become like a pinata for a lot of people. I

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<v Speaker 4>don't think he's as bad as some people make him

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<v Speaker 4>out to be. And I think Marcel Latimore being a

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<v Speaker 4>part of the Secondary's going to do Saint Jews a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of good. But you know, I think about Saint

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<v Speaker 4>Jews and one of the most obvious things about him,

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<v Speaker 4>right is that he is handsy, and that can work

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<v Speaker 4>against him, but that also can work for him. And

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<v Speaker 4>so I wonder if this is a matchup where maybe

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<v Speaker 4>Saint Jews can rattle Pickens a little bit, can frustrate

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<v Speaker 4>Pickens a little bit. Like I said, Pickens to me

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<v Speaker 4>is prone to if things aren't going his way, he

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<v Speaker 4>can start to sour. And so I think there's some

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<v Speaker 4>of that that could be in play here. But I

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<v Speaker 4>think the number one thing with Wilson, and this is

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<v Speaker 4>true of a lot of quarterbacks, but you do have

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<v Speaker 4>to pressure.

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<v Speaker 2>His success with.

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<v Speaker 4>The Steelers has stood out no doubt, these last two games,

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<v Speaker 4>averaging more than nine yards per pass attempt, averaging more

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<v Speaker 4>than fifteen yards for completion. Those are dare I say,

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<v Speaker 4>Jayden Daniels like numbers, but if you dig a little deeper,

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<v Speaker 4>you go buy sharp football analysis. The stats that Warren's

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<v Speaker 4>got up there. Wilson is just six for seventeen on

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<v Speaker 4>pass attempts when pressured, So when he's being pressured, he's

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<v Speaker 4>not having success. If the Commanders can generate pressure, I

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<v Speaker 4>think they can rattle Russell Wilson.

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<v Speaker 5>And you know I think about this. You mentioned Joe

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<v Speaker 5>wid Junior.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know how serious he willis when he said

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<v Speaker 4>this during his preractice press conference last Thursday, said that

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<v Speaker 4>he should be sending Jeremy Chin more.

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<v Speaker 5>Now.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know if he said that just to say

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<v Speaker 4>that if you legitimately felt that, but shit is playing

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<v Speaker 4>really well. We saw him have a number of standout

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<v Speaker 4>plays in the win at the Giants. I wonder if

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<v Speaker 4>you maybe see some of that on Sunday afternoon in

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<v Speaker 4>an effort to get to Wilson. But I think if

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<v Speaker 4>the commander's pressure Wilson, they can dude this Steelers offense,

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<v Speaker 4>which has been going really well. It's two games, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>it's not some massive sample size, So I think there's

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<v Speaker 4>still a lot to be proven in terms of all this.

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<v Speaker 4>Steelers truly good offensively, and like Logan said, connecting on

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<v Speaker 4>deep balls is great, but it also is kind of

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<v Speaker 4>a you know, it can't be a thing.

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<v Speaker 5>It can't be a thing. It's random, it can fluctuate.

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<v Speaker 4>You are dealing with a lot of fifty to fifty propositions.

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<v Speaker 4>Sometimes they go your way, sometimes they don't. Hopefully this

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<v Speaker 4>Sunday afternoon they do not go the way of Pittsburgh.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know, you both mentioned mentioned press pressuring Russell Wilson.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that these commanders have done a very good

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<v Speaker 3>job against mobile quarterbacks. I mean, you look all the

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<v Speaker 3>way back, you know, to Kyler Murray. He had his

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<v Speaker 3>lowest pass performance of the season going against Washington. Uh,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, Deshaun Watson obviously it had a really tough

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<v Speaker 3>go in there. The following week in Northwest stadium. Lamar

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<v Speaker 3>Jackson has had his day because he's Lamar Jackson and

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<v Speaker 3>he's an Ivy P.

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<v Speaker 1>Caliver candidate.

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<v Speaker 3>But you know, the last you know, few weeks or so,

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<v Speaker 3>these manners have, uh they've allowed less than one hundred

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<v Speaker 3>passing yards up until like the fourth quarter, and I

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<v Speaker 3>think a lot of that is because of how well

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<v Speaker 3>the pass rush has has really improved.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh, you know over the last two weeks or so, like, yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>You've got you know, Johnny Newon, You've got to Ron

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<v Speaker 3>Payne and John Dante Teller has been has been really

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<v Speaker 3>really solid over the last two weeks. You know, there's

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<v Speaker 3>not necessarily the a A tier, top of the class

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<v Speaker 3>defensive pass rusher that you're they would really expect have these.

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<v Speaker 3>But at the same time, this this this pass rush

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<v Speaker 3>is top ten or least around that in sacks. So,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, Logan, you mentioned that, you know, the offensive

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<v Speaker 3>line of the Steels offensive line being a little beat up.

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<v Speaker 3>Roger goes not playing exactly as well as maybe he

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<v Speaker 3>wanted to. It's at some points, but in terms of

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<v Speaker 3>you know, how this how this Steelers offensive line matches

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<v Speaker 3>up against, uh, the Commanders defensive front, what are you

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<v Speaker 3>seeing so far and like, how can they take advantage

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<v Speaker 3>of some of their some of the Steelers and maybe

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<v Speaker 3>miscues there.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So I think it comes down to kind of

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<v Speaker 2>who the Steelers want to be. And when you look

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<v Speaker 2>at their offense, they want to run the football. They

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<v Speaker 2>want to be in a kind of you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>look at Mike tom when he's a defensive head coach.

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<v Speaker 2>They want to be in a defensive led game. And

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<v Speaker 2>what I mean by that they want they don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to make any mistakes offensively. They want to kind of

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<v Speaker 2>let the defense drive the ship. And they're okay, kind

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<v Speaker 2>of being very conservative on first, second, and third down,

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<v Speaker 2>nothing too crazy, not putting the ball on harm's way.

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<v Speaker 2>Their turnover to differential is very very high. So I

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<v Speaker 2>think the first thing I'd say is like can you

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<v Speaker 2>stop the run? Yes or no? And on first and

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<v Speaker 2>second down and then get them to third long situations

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<v Speaker 2>where they have not been overly effective rushing the passer.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think when you watch the offensive line, one

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<v Speaker 2>thing that jumps out to me on film is while

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<v Speaker 2>they have very talented pieces at certain spots, I think

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<v Speaker 2>when you look at you know, Isaac so Mallow, excuse me,

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<v Speaker 2>you know from Philadelphia, one of the better reguards in

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<v Speaker 2>the NFL. They Dan Morris playing good ball at the moment.

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<v Speaker 2>They have good pieces, Zach Fraser went health he's doing

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<v Speaker 2>a great job. They have good pieces, but they're not

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<v Speaker 2>playing together very well as a group. And then makes

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<v Speaker 2>sense because they've got a new offense that they're all learning.

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<v Speaker 2>So to me, it's like, put those guys in difficult situations,

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<v Speaker 2>get them and third and long, and exploit those matchups

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<v Speaker 2>the way that the Washington Commanders have exploded them all season.

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<v Speaker 2>And what I mean by that is like, can we

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<v Speaker 2>get good front matchups for Frankieluvu mentioned Dante Fowler, you

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<v Speaker 2>mentioned Dorance Armstrong. Those guys have shown they can win

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<v Speaker 2>in obvious passing situations because they understand when to take

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<v Speaker 2>their shot, how to anticipate the snap count, they have

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<v Speaker 2>a go to move, and they've been very productive. And

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<v Speaker 2>so I think that's that's what I'd say is this

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<v Speaker 2>team is not built to be a passing team, so

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<v Speaker 2>force them to do it. And now you have to

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<v Speaker 2>commit more resources on first and second down to stopping

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<v Speaker 2>the run, which makes you more susceptible to shots down

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<v Speaker 2>the field. But ultimately I think that's the way you

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<v Speaker 2>want to go, or you go the way that they

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<v Speaker 2>went last week with the New York Giants, and you say, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>we're gonna play cover two shell, We're going to let

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<v Speaker 2>our offense get a fourteen point differential and eventually the

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<v Speaker 2>Pittsburgh Steelers will have to throw the football and our

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<v Speaker 2>defense will be able to capitalize. So to me, those

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<v Speaker 2>are the things that I look with the defensive line,

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<v Speaker 2>the commander's defensive line going against the offensive line, and

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<v Speaker 2>that I think could be favorable matchups.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and you also talk about, you know, making sure

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<v Speaker 3>that you were able to stop the run on first

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<v Speaker 3>and second down, which I think, you know, it's not

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<v Speaker 3>necessarily related so much to prefering that to the explos

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<v Speaker 3>passing yet, but it is related at the same time

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<v Speaker 3>because you want it, like you said, you want to

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<v Speaker 3>force them into do something that they're not necessarily you know,

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<v Speaker 3>equipped to do. Goaldi is a real question, like real

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<v Speaker 3>quick before we move on to the next question, is like,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, talking about stopping the run here, like this

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<v Speaker 3>has not been an area that the commanders are incessily

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<v Speaker 3>always the best that I think they're like around twenty

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<v Speaker 3>eighth in yards allowed per game. But you know, Pittsburgh

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<v Speaker 3>top eight team. You know Najee Harris is running the

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<v Speaker 3>ball really well. Right now, as you look into that matchup,

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<v Speaker 3>what are some some concerns that you maybe have that

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<v Speaker 3>you really kind of hope the Commanders address going against

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<v Speaker 3>that the Steelers rushing attack.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, well Harris is hot Steelers in the midst of

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<v Speaker 4>a three game winning stree. Harris is averaging right around

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<v Speaker 4>six yards per carry during that streak. He, in a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of ways, is what makes that offense go. It's

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<v Speaker 4>a cliche to say like it starts with stopping the run,

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<v Speaker 4>but I think in this case it does. I think

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<v Speaker 4>if you do a good job against Harris, this is

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<v Speaker 4>going to be a good game for the Commander's defense.

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<v Speaker 4>He's a good back, he runs violently, and he's had

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<v Speaker 4>some big games here lately. You know, it's tricky with

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<v Speaker 4>this Commander's run defense because you look at individual guys

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<v Speaker 4>and you say to herself, this should be a pretty

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<v Speaker 4>good defense against the run.

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<v Speaker 5>Bright like the Ron and Gerie is a good player.

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<v Speaker 4>We have seen Johnny Newton do some good things, and

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<v Speaker 4>obviously there are big expectations for what he could be

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<v Speaker 4>but Darien Mattis.

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<v Speaker 5>Is having a step forward season. He's doing some good things.

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<v Speaker 4>If you look at Bobby Wagner's PFF grades, he ranks

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<v Speaker 4>as one of the best run stopping linebackers in the NFL. So, like,

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<v Speaker 4>you look at the individual parts and you say, Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>they shouldn't be that bad against the run, but of

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<v Speaker 4>course that has been an issue and it certainly is

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<v Speaker 4>something that has to get fixed. You look at this

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<v Speaker 4>week against Najie Harris, the fuddling game. Just a few

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<v Speaker 4>days later at the Eagle Sakon Bar we was been

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<v Speaker 4>on buire for. But you do have to stop the run,

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<v Speaker 4>especially as the weather starts to cool down. But I

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<v Speaker 4>think the good news here, like Logan said, the Steelers

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<v Speaker 4>offensive line has talent, but it's not necessarily a great

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<v Speaker 4>unit when everything's coming together. Uh, when you look at

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<v Speaker 4>everything together, and I think with this Stealers offense, if

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<v Speaker 4>you can stop Harris, and that's a big if, but

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<v Speaker 4>if you can do that, I think that set sets

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<v Speaker 4>you up quite nicely to have a good defensive performance.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think so too, And I think you're you're

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<v Speaker 3>right on the money there in terms of I think

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<v Speaker 3>this this run defense is maybe a little bit better

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<v Speaker 3>than the numbers would suggest, but they do allow, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>some of those those bigger explosive plays occasionally. I think

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<v Speaker 3>that does bump up the averages a little bit. Either way,

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<v Speaker 3>I think I think it's gonna be quite interesting to

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<v Speaker 3>see with how they're able to handle that. We're gonna

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<v Speaker 3>move on to the next question, but first score off

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<v Speaker 3>it Logan you are ahead by to uh. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>realize some of the points you were making there, but

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<v Speaker 3>you know we've still up plenty of time, uh for

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<v Speaker 3>for for people to catch up here. We're gonna move

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<v Speaker 3>on over to Commanders often the side of the ball,

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<v Speaker 3>Steelers defense side of the ball, and I think this

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<v Speaker 3>is this particular match up.

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<v Speaker 1>That things gonna be interesting is in the red zone.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, the Commanders have they're not always the best

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<v Speaker 3>in terms of getting into the red zone. I think

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<v Speaker 3>they're near the bottom third in terms of red red

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<v Speaker 3>zone touchdowns. The Steels, on the other hand, have the

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<v Speaker 3>best red zone defense in the league in terms of

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<v Speaker 3>allowing touchdowns. They are allowing touchdowns on thirty seven point

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<v Speaker 3>five percent of the time. That's leads by you know,

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<v Speaker 3>pretty decent margin there and I look at that and

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<v Speaker 3>I think, Okay, Like I like the I like the

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<v Speaker 3>way that Washington Commanders are able to move the ball

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<v Speaker 3>in between the twenty up to the twenty yard line,

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<v Speaker 3>but once they get there, I think it's it's that's

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<v Speaker 3>something really where the the matchup is going to be

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<v Speaker 3>quite interesting. Uh So, Bobby, we'll start with you first.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know, I think I really like the way

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<v Speaker 3>Cliff Kingsbury has been able to design this offense. But

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<v Speaker 3>what do you think that they can do to put

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<v Speaker 3>hi that he can do to put the Commanders in

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<v Speaker 3>more advantageous positions in the red zone, to to to

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<v Speaker 3>just just get in the end zone against Steelers, which again,

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<v Speaker 3>like has has been very very stingy in terms of

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<v Speaker 3>allowing touchdowns so far this year.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and normally you say, well, if you don't do

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<v Speaker 4>great in the red zone, you can survive that if

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<v Speaker 4>you hit on a lot of explosive plays and score

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<v Speaker 4>touchdowns from beyond the red zone. But the Steelers defense

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<v Speaker 4>is really good, so I don't know that you can

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<v Speaker 4>be counting on connecting on a bunch of forty yard

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<v Speaker 4>touchdown bombs. Although again, Jaden Daniels, you know, I don't

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<v Speaker 4>think we've been anything past him at this point. So

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<v Speaker 4>I think this is where Brian Robinson Junior potentially being

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<v Speaker 4>back is huge. Running the ball in the red zone

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<v Speaker 4>oftentimes can be more advantageous than passing the ball because

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<v Speaker 4>you have that condensed field.

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<v Speaker 5>And Robinson is.

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<v Speaker 4>Like a perfect red zone running back right because of

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<v Speaker 4>his size, his physicality, his ability to display first. I

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<v Speaker 4>think the Commanders have missed Robinson in the game that

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<v Speaker 4>he's missed this season. I think like it has really

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<v Speaker 4>stood out that they have not had him in those games.

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<v Speaker 4>I think that you really need him back and I

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<v Speaker 4>would love to have him back now.

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<v Speaker 5>If he's not back, here's what I wonder.

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<v Speaker 4>So Chris Rodriguez Junior had been buried for so much

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<v Speaker 4>of this season, right, he got cut from the cut

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<v Speaker 4>down to fifty three, signed back to the practice squad,

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<v Speaker 4>got elevated for a game, didn't get any carries in

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<v Speaker 4>that game. But then last Sunday afternoon happened eleven carries

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<v Speaker 4>fifty two yards and Dan Quinn has been singing the

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<v Speaker 4>praises of Rodriguez ever since. Made it a point to

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<v Speaker 4>praise Rodriguez during Quinn's opening statement of his postgame press conference.

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<v Speaker 4>Then Quinn this week has praised Rodriguez once again multiple

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<v Speaker 4>times in back, Rodriguez seems like, you know, a little

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<v Speaker 4>brother version of B rob in terms of like physical

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<v Speaker 4>runs violently. If Robinson isn't back, I would not be

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<v Speaker 4>against Rodriguez getting some red zone carries.

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<v Speaker 5>I know the lead has been more toured well.

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<v Speaker 4>If Robinson is out, to go with an Austin Eckler

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<v Speaker 4>or Jeremy McNichols, and they certainly have had their success.

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<v Speaker 5>But man, I like Rodriguez. I thought he did a

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<v Speaker 5>good job last season.

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<v Speaker 4>You know pretty clearly his training camp season, his preseason

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<v Speaker 4>did not go particularly well ergo, he was let go

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<v Speaker 4>in the cutdown of fifty three, but I think he

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<v Speaker 4>has talent in it. I would not be against him

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<v Speaker 4>getting some red zone carries if Robinson is out. Obviously

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<v Speaker 4>you can basketball in the red zone. We saw that

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<v Speaker 4>with the JAD and Daniels touchdown pass to Terry mcflure

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<v Speaker 4>on the first one last Sunday. But if you're gonna

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<v Speaker 4>have to run the ball against his tough Steelers defense

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<v Speaker 4>inside the twenty, I think Robinson or Rodriguez might be

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<v Speaker 4>the way to go.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and you bring up Rodriguez, and I was really

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<v Speaker 3>happy to see that he was doing well, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>led the team in rushing yards, really had I think

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<v Speaker 3>like five carries there in that last ride to help ice.

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<v Speaker 1>The game against the Giants.

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<v Speaker 3>But you also bring in Brian Robinson, you know, who

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<v Speaker 3>was out last week, and he's he was limited in

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<v Speaker 3>practice on Wednesday. We'll see what happens at the time

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<v Speaker 3>of this recording, it is before practice on Thursday, so

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<v Speaker 3>we'll see where he goes.

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<v Speaker 1>But Logan like.

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<v Speaker 3>Just specifically talking about Brian Robinson, like how how much

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<v Speaker 3>more diverse is he? Like does he allow the offense

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<v Speaker 3>to be especially like you know, in scoring position like that?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean I think it's it's simple in the

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<v Speaker 2>sense that he's an efficient He's an efficient runner. And

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<v Speaker 2>what I mean by that is he's a guy that

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<v Speaker 2>you know, has excellent content balance, excellent vision, and can

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<v Speaker 2>keep you on schedule. So when the run's not blocked

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<v Speaker 2>exactly riot, he has the power to kind of create

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<v Speaker 2>his own hole, create his own space, and the vision

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<v Speaker 2>to kind of find the soft spots and ride the

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<v Speaker 2>crease as they call it. So to me, he's just

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<v Speaker 2>to me, the value that he brings is that he

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<v Speaker 2>gives Cliff confidence in the run game. And I think

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<v Speaker 2>that's where you know, like Al was talking about with

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<v Speaker 2>Chris Rodriguez, he has a very similar skill set and

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<v Speaker 2>he's got the power to kind of create his own opportunities.

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<v Speaker 2>So to me, that's the value. And in the low red,

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<v Speaker 2>like when the throwing windows are tight, when the opportunities

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<v Speaker 2>are sparse in terms of throwing windows, like, it's nice

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<v Speaker 2>having a guy that can keep you on schedule and

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<v Speaker 2>fall forward for three yards when there's nothing there for you,

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<v Speaker 2>and you can live in those situations a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>more reticently when the down and distance favors you. So

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's where b Rob's value comes in in

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<v Speaker 2>the low red. It's just he's an efficient, powerful runner

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<v Speaker 2>with good vision and can maximize touches in difficult looks.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he really does. And you know, again, he's not

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<v Speaker 3>like he's not necessarily Derek Henry. He's gonna be able

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<v Speaker 3>to just.

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<v Speaker 1>Run rushot over everybody.

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<v Speaker 3>He's not, you know, like Christop McCaffery, who's gonna be

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<v Speaker 3>able to speed past too. But he does have a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit of both, I think, and plus like he

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<v Speaker 3>has a really tough guard, especially on third and short.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that's that's really where his value uh brings

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<v Speaker 3>a lot, Like it's just because he's able to keep

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<v Speaker 3>the change moving and keep the momentum going. I think

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<v Speaker 3>that's that's so big for this offense. And I hope

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<v Speaker 3>he's able to play because I want I love watching

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<v Speaker 3>him run. And two, I think this offense is a

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<v Speaker 3>lot more exciting and a lot more fun. Uh when

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<v Speaker 3>when you have a talented gaal, I'd be riving there

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<v Speaker 3>the backfield, even though Rodriguez assuming he if he does,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, if he does have to play, and there's

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<v Speaker 3>some some things with the roster that have to go

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<v Speaker 3>for they have to happen for that to be a reality. Uh,

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<v Speaker 3>either way, we'll see what happens. We're gonna move on

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<v Speaker 3>to the final question. Uh, you guys are tied. Uh

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<v Speaker 3>So there's that, but we're this is all gonna come

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<v Speaker 3>out of the last question here. And obviously there's gonna

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<v Speaker 3>be a lot of really key players for the commanders

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<v Speaker 3>to have to to account for. One of them on

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<v Speaker 3>offense we were I talked about would be George Pickens.

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<v Speaker 3>The second one will be TJ. Watt, who is. I

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<v Speaker 3>think a lot of people put put him with the

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<v Speaker 3>odds on favorite to win Devensive Player of the Year.

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<v Speaker 3>He's just been that explosive, just been just that good

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<v Speaker 3>as we all expected from Galla TJ Watt. So, Logan,

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<v Speaker 3>we'll start with you first, very just binary question here.

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<v Speaker 1>Who do you think is more important for the Commanders

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<v Speaker 1>to account for and stop on Sunday? TJ. Watt or

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<v Speaker 1>George Pickens?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean we talk a little about George Pickens

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<v Speaker 2>at the top and when he brings to the offense

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<v Speaker 2>in terms of his ability to maximize those contests to

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<v Speaker 2>catch opportunities. So I definitely think it's important that you

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<v Speaker 2>regulate him. But in terms of who the Steelers want

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<v Speaker 2>to be, what is their identity to their core, they're

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<v Speaker 2>a defensive football team, and who leads the defense at

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<v Speaker 2>TJ Watt? And again, he's not the most prolific or

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<v Speaker 2>effective down to down pass rusher, but against some of

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<v Speaker 2>the best pass rushers I ever played against in my career,

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<v Speaker 2>they understand the moment, they understand when to take their shot.

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<v Speaker 2>And in watching him, watching his sacks from this season,

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<v Speaker 2>it's I haven't seen someone this year studied someone this

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<v Speaker 2>year that understands that better than t J. Watt. He

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<v Speaker 2>understands when to take a shot, and when he takes

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<v Speaker 2>his shot, he usually connects on it. He leads the

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<v Speaker 2>NFL with four force fumbles, like their impactful plays not

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<v Speaker 2>only in terms of the sack, but in terms of

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<v Speaker 2>turning the football over. So to me, you know, are

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<v Speaker 2>the thing that drives this team right now is the offense.

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<v Speaker 2>Who helms the offense? It's Shadon Daniels. How do we

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<v Speaker 2>keep him upright? How do we keep the offense efficient?

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<v Speaker 2>And that to me is managing t J. Watt, managing

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<v Speaker 2>High Smith, managing Nate Herbig if he does end up

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<v Speaker 2>playing like those three pass rushers, all need to be managing.

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<v Speaker 2>And the guy that kind of helms the ship, the

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<v Speaker 2>leader of the horsemen of the pass rush in Pittsburgh

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<v Speaker 2>is TJ. Watt. Definitely to have a plan for him,

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<v Speaker 2>whether that's ship, help slide, help minimize his impact on

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<v Speaker 2>the game and let Jane Daniels do what Jade Daniels does.

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<v Speaker 2>So to me, he's the guy that needs to be

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<v Speaker 2>accounted for on this game.

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<v Speaker 3>And to your point, I think the commanders have done

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<v Speaker 3>a very good job against He's you know, really solid

0:24:51.760 --> 0:24:55.400
<v Speaker 3>pass rushers. You know, dexel Ourent didn't record a pressure

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<v Speaker 3>last week again with the Giant, Miles Gear didn't scord

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<v Speaker 3>a stat at all. He was basically a non factor

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<v Speaker 3>for the Browns a few weeks ago. So yeah, I

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<v Speaker 3>do feel really confident about what how they offer THEE

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<v Speaker 3>can handle TJ.

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<v Speaker 5>Why all right?

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<v Speaker 2>Now?

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<v Speaker 1>The same to you George Pickens or tjy.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I would say TJ. Watt Pickens is good, but

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know that anyone can argue realistically that he's

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<v Speaker 4>the best receiver in the NFL. You can make a

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<v Speaker 4>compelling argument that Watt is the best edge defender in

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<v Speaker 4>the NFL. He's so good, He's been so good for

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<v Speaker 4>years now. You know, you mentioned his ability. Logan did

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<v Speaker 4>about like recognizing the moment. If you go by overall

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<v Speaker 4>PFF grades in fourth quarterers, TJ. Watts is not ninety

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<v Speaker 4>three point three for this season like he has been

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<v Speaker 4>at his best in clutch time, in winning time, as

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<v Speaker 4>Dan Quinn has been calling it. So yeah, I think

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<v Speaker 4>you got to stop what He has the ability to

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<v Speaker 4>take over a game, which is not something you can

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<v Speaker 4>say for a lot of defensive players in the modern NFL.

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<v Speaker 4>But what certainly can do that? Now you just mentioned

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<v Speaker 4>and Zach, I think a key point. The Commanders this

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<v Speaker 4>season have done such a good job against some of

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<v Speaker 4>these elite defense in alignment. When you look at Miles Garrett,

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<v Speaker 4>when you look at Dexter, Lawrence, Cliff Kingsbury has shown

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<v Speaker 4>an aptitude for coming up with a plan to neutralize

0:26:14.240 --> 0:26:17.280
<v Speaker 4>these guys. Now, I'm not assuming that that's gonna happen

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<v Speaker 4>with Lot Again, he is really good, and the Steelers

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<v Speaker 4>have other good edge defend. There's two including just having

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<v Speaker 4>traded for a guy we know well in Preston Smith.

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<v Speaker 4>But you know, if you can have another game in

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<v Speaker 4>which Brandon Coleman does a really good job at left

0:26:30.480 --> 0:26:32.359
<v Speaker 4>tackle and you give Coleman help, he could get some

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<v Speaker 4>help in that win at the Giants. But you know,

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<v Speaker 4>maybe you can survive what doing what he does because

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<v Speaker 4>he's gonna have his moments like he's going to win

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<v Speaker 4>his share of reps. I think that's pretty obvious. But

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<v Speaker 4>do you allow those one reps to wreck you or

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<v Speaker 4>are they more Okay, he pressured you, but.

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<v Speaker 5>You were able to survive that snap.

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<v Speaker 4>So I think that's gonna be key, but what is

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<v Speaker 4>a special player and the commanders are going to have

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<v Speaker 4>their hands full with them, no doubt.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know, you mentioned Cliff and I think one

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<v Speaker 3>of the one of the more fun things that I

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<v Speaker 3>that I've enjoyed over this of the season is watching

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<v Speaker 3>Cliff Is come of these really unique concepts in terms

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<v Speaker 3>of slide protection, in terms of chipping, in terms of

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<v Speaker 3>just insulating this offensive line in ways that you know

0:27:11.000 --> 0:27:13.000
<v Speaker 3>they I mean this, this is one of the one

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<v Speaker 3>of the worst in terms of allowing sacks last year.

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<v Speaker 3>Obviously there were other factors involved in that, but this

0:27:17.520 --> 0:27:19.240
<v Speaker 3>year they've they've been I.

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<v Speaker 1>Mean really really good.

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<v Speaker 3>And there's a lot of other things for that, but

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<v Speaker 3>like the players themselves have also been very solid. All right,

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<v Speaker 3>So winners. You know, it's a very very close matchup,

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<v Speaker 3>you guys, very close, but I think I have to

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<v Speaker 3>go with Logan. I have to go with you. I

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<v Speaker 3>think you're the You're the winner here. Do you have

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<v Speaker 3>any parting words of victory for us?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, just Al was a great competitor day, a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of good points. Learned a lot from his insight today,

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<v Speaker 2>So thanks Al for all that, and Zach, thanks for

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<v Speaker 2>having me on the show and looking forward to be

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<v Speaker 2>back soon. It feels good to come out of here

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<v Speaker 2>in such an illustrious competition with a victory.

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<v Speaker 3>Professional as always Hopefully like the Commanders will be coming

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<v Speaker 3>out of this weekend with another win, a four straight

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<v Speaker 3>win going to eight and two Radi inter Divisional play,

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<v Speaker 3>the harder Divisional play with another matchup against the Philadelphia

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<v Speaker 3>Eagles on Thursday Night football, which we will not be

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<v Speaker 3>previewing guys, so we'll be skipping the next week's we'll

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<v Speaker 3>be heading our next time you hear this will be

0:28:17.359 --> 0:28:20.960
<v Speaker 3>against the Dallas Cowboys in that preview. But be sure

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<v Speaker 3>to rate, review, subscribe everywhere you get your podcasts.

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<v Speaker 1>And this has been the beatdown