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Speaker 1: Hopefully everyone's having a great day. I have been kind

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Speaker 1: and the bad, and that's what draws human beings to

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Speaker 1: other human beings. So props to Tommy Fleetwood. I thought

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Speaker 1: Bryson today was you know, I'll get into Live in

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Speaker 1: a second, because me and Colin went but that Bryson,

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Speaker 1: because they're playing in Indianapolis, went to McAfee's show and

431
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Speaker 1: he said, you know the thing that he's struggling with

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Speaker 1: right now, and he said this. When we were in

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Speaker 1: Chicago last week, the wind was howling. Obviously it's the

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Speaker 1: windy city, but the wind, specifically at Bowling Brook was

435
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Speaker 1: was pumping and it would have been one of those

436
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Speaker 1: where if you were a little off I didn't walk

437
00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:57,639
Speaker 1: the course clearly was not easy. I mean guys were

438
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Speaker 1: shooting over par that it would eat your life. And

439
00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:02,720
Speaker 1: even Bryson admitted today to McAfee, it's like, you know,

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Speaker 1: one area that Scotty has me by by a wide

441
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Speaker 1: gap right now and he's the number one player in

442
00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:11,480
Speaker 1: the world and I'm not is his ability to control distances,

443
00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:15,399
Speaker 1: and that's working the ball into the wind. And he's like,

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Speaker 1: it's one reason I struggled, you know, last week on

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Speaker 1: Sunday and across the pond at the British Open is

446
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Speaker 1: because it gets windy. I'm not great at flighting my eyrons,

447
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Speaker 1: and let's face it, a lot of guys are not.

448
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Speaker 1: And Scotty's distance control. It's one thing. I like, there's

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Speaker 1: no wind and you're one hundred and fifty seven yards

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Speaker 1: and that's just a full nine iron. Well, that's distance,

451
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Speaker 1: You're just hitting a full shot. It's another thing when

452
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Speaker 1: the wind's blown twenty three yards and the pin is

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Speaker 1: tucked to one of the corners of the green and

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Speaker 1: you got to flight the ball and work the ball

455
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Speaker 1: with a wind going the other way. And that's where

456
00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:52,320
Speaker 1: you know, Tiger was so much better than everyone else.

457
00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:54,239
Speaker 1: He hit every shot in the book. I mean, if

458
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Speaker 1: you watch some of Tiger's teach tapes on YouTube that

459
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Speaker 1: he used to do before he shattered his ankle with

460
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Speaker 1: like I think golf dot com, he would hit like

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Speaker 1: three shots for like a low high and middle fade

462
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Speaker 1: straight low high and middle straight shot and then a

463
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Speaker 1: draw with all three. So he'd had nine shots and

464
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Speaker 1: nine different windows and he had them all. It's why

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Speaker 1: he's considered the greatest ball striker and iron player of

466
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Speaker 1: all time. And a lot of guys don't like they

467
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Speaker 1: are great players. And this was a knock on Rory

468
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Speaker 1: a couple of years ago. It's like the conditions get

469
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Speaker 1: a little off, it starts getting rattled. He actually felt

470
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Speaker 1: like spent last summer or last winter working on the

471
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Speaker 1: wedges and flight in the wedges, and he came back

472
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Speaker 1: to Augusta and was awesome. And I think what Scott's

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Speaker 1: doing right now, it's insane, Like how can he not

474
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Speaker 1: just one week just finish like thirtieth. It happened all

475
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Speaker 1: the time to fill the Tiger, to Rory, to whoever,

476
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Speaker 1: and he just refused, like, yeah, even if I don't win,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna be fourth. Even if I don't win, I'm

478
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Speaker 1: gonna be third. Even if I don't win, worst case scenario,

479
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna be seventh. So I'm gonna beat the shit

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Speaker 1: out of basically majority of people in this tournament. And

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Speaker 1: of a couple guys play at their A game and

482
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Speaker 1: I have a B minus game, they beat me by

483
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Speaker 1: a shot or two. That's the thing. When he's on,

484
00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:14,480
Speaker 1: he wins these tournaments by four shots. Obviously the majors,

485
00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:17,399
Speaker 1: he won multiple majors by multiple shots, let alone the

486
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Speaker 1: regular tournaments that he won by five shots, seven shots.

487
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Speaker 1: Yet their A game, like justin Rose over the weekend

488
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Speaker 1: was incredible, and on Sunday down the stretch of that tournament,

489
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Speaker 1: like that's like twenty eighteen, number one in the world.

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Speaker 1: Justin ros Just birdie birdie, Birdie, Birdie, parr birdie, you know,

491
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Speaker 1: extra holes par birdie Birdie. It's like Jesus, this guy's

492
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Speaker 1: a machine. But like that's what it takes to beat Scotty.

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Speaker 1: You have to have your A or A plus game,

494
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Speaker 1: and he's got to have like a C plus game

495
00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:48,040
Speaker 1: and beat you beat him by shot. I mean, it's

496
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Speaker 1: they are only so many tame, so many ways you

497
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Speaker 1: can kind of give Scotty a reach around here, but

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Speaker 1: it's pretty wild how much better currently today? As we

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Speaker 1: said here, he is better than everyone else. And you're seeing, like,

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Speaker 1: I mean, where you won a major this year? Bryson

501
00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:05,000
Speaker 1: easily could have won a couple of his irons weren't

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Speaker 1: shitty over the weekend, and these guys are like all

503
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Speaker 1: time great Hall of Fame players, and he's really separated.

504
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Speaker 1: As the season's going on live Chicago, listen, a lot

505
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Speaker 1: of people are like, why are you talking about this?

506
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Speaker 1: Like they bought space. You know, I love golf, and

507
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Speaker 1: they gave me access. They took me to a tournament

508
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Speaker 1: where I got to meet Brooks Kopka. I don't know

509
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Speaker 1: he won five majors. He the course I play at TPC,

510
00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:31,720
Speaker 1: he won that tournament twice. Kind of an important figure

511
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Speaker 1: in the history of golf. Sergio Garcia masters champ there

512
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Speaker 1: starts talking to us, you know what I mean. PGA

513
00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:39,520
Speaker 1: Tour has never given me that access. Now at the

514
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Speaker 1: end of the day, like I'm not pretending I'm more

515
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Speaker 1: into live at my house on the couch than I

516
00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:52,200
Speaker 1: am watching the the TPC Memphis, right, But like when

517
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Speaker 1: you are at the event. It is pretty sweet. Now

518
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Speaker 1: we got access to go on the driving range. And

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Speaker 1: I've been to a bunch of PGA turns to mens

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Speaker 1: and majors over the years, so it's not like I've

521
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:06,880
Speaker 1: never seen professionals hit shots, but we got to see

522
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:08,960
Speaker 1: it five feet away and watch these guys just bang balls.

523
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Speaker 1: And I've never been to a driving range of a

524
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Speaker 1: professional golf tournament. And obviously they got you know, from

525
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Speaker 1: Dustin Johnson to Koepka to rom to Joaquin Neeman. I

526
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:22,520
Speaker 1: didn't see Bryson or Phil hit balls, but even they're

527
00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:25,800
Speaker 1: random guys in balls. Like it's watching Koepka just stripe

528
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:28,560
Speaker 1: like three irons. You're like, how's this guy off right now?

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Speaker 1: He looks fantastic. So it was a very very cool

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Speaker 1: experience being live there and watching these guys. Now a

531
00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:40,360
Speaker 1: reason this works in Chicago like a party city. There

532
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:43,760
Speaker 1: was I don't know, twenty five thirty thousand people throughout

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Speaker 1: the course. I mean it was jammed. The music thing,

534
00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:50,040
Speaker 1: which I originally thought was a little weird on TV

535
00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:53,399
Speaker 1: and like not really my cup of tea when you're there.

536
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Speaker 1: To me, it adds to the experience. The music adds

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Speaker 1: to the in person experience. Live is a cool in

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Speaker 1: person experience I personally and listen, we spent all day

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Speaker 1: with Scott O'Neill. Who if Scott O'Neil was a stock,

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Speaker 1: I would bet on Scott O'Neil. And I think the

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Speaker 1: smartest thing that Live did and the PGA Tour did

542
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 1: in hiring guys to run their businesses is not hiring

543
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:22,560
Speaker 1: golf people. Scott O'Neil's not a golf golfer. He's not

544
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Speaker 1: some country club guy. Neither is Brian Rolapp, the new

545
00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:29,600
Speaker 1: CEO of the PGA Tour commissioner. And here's the thing

546
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:32,240
Speaker 1: they understand, like, how do we figure this out moving

547
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:35,960
Speaker 1: forward together? How do we get our guys in some

548
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:39,560
Speaker 1: of your events? Like you guys completely changed everything. And

549
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:42,280
Speaker 1: role App comes from the NFL. Like he's no dummy.

550
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:44,680
Speaker 1: He's gonna want bryceon d Chambeau in some of his tournaments.

551
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:47,280
Speaker 1: He's gonna want John Rahm at the Waste Management. He's

552
00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:50,160
Speaker 1: gonna want Dustin Johnson and Brooks Koepka to play in

553
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:52,800
Speaker 1: some of the Florida tournaments. This is a fucking business.

554
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:55,640
Speaker 1: This isn't like emotions are high. That was cool. A

555
00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:57,760
Speaker 1: couple of years ago. Those days are over. How do

556
00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:00,400
Speaker 1: we figure this out moving forward? I think the one

557
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:02,080
Speaker 1: thing Scott O'Neil gets, and this is a guy that

558
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:05,120
Speaker 1: worked for Josh Harris with the Sixers and the and

559
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:07,680
Speaker 1: the Commanders, he worked for David Searn, like he just

560
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:11,720
Speaker 1: kind of gets business. And Greg Norman like put a

561
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:14,040
Speaker 1: stink on this thing, and rightfully so, because everyone thought

562
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:16,840
Speaker 1: he was a dbag. Everyone thought he was a complete

563
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:20,640
Speaker 1: loser and had a vandett against the PGA tour, which

564
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:23,760
Speaker 1: became very obvious Scott O'Neil, doesn't, you know. And one

565
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:26,920
Speaker 1: thing watching Scott operate is I think he kind of

566
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:29,320
Speaker 1: gets where his bread's butter, Like watching him interact with

567
00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 1: the players, talking to him about what he's doing to

568
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:34,400
Speaker 1: try to get these guys back in the mix, and

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00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:38,360
Speaker 1: also just understanding like the power of these individuals and

570
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:40,720
Speaker 1: I go right to them, is like, Okay, this guy's

571
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 1: just an impressive businessman. This is just type person you

572
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 1: bet on. You know. It's like I was bissing with

573
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Speaker 1: him and he's a Philly guy. He's like, oh, how

574
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:52,080
Speaker 1: he's one of my good buddies. So we took a pick.

575
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:53,440
Speaker 1: I sent it to Howie and how he's like, I

576
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:56,480
Speaker 1: fucking love Scott O'Neil. I mean the type people that

577
00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:59,320
Speaker 1: this guy, you know, Greg Norman, was toxic. And sometimes

578
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:02,600
Speaker 1: when you have a toxic person in any different line

579
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:05,160
Speaker 1: of work, like there comes to a point where like

580
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:08,440
Speaker 1: you just got to throw the guy overboard, because whatever

581
00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:11,560
Speaker 1: your chances are for success, you have no chance with

582
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:14,720
Speaker 1: that individual. We all know these people in our communities, like,

583
00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 1: you can't do business with that guy. I mean I

584
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:20,440
Speaker 1: have a lot of friends that are in some sort

585
00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:26,240
Speaker 1: of I would say part of the construction industry, construction

586
00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:28,480
Speaker 1: slash real estate. And you hear it all the time,

587
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:31,320
Speaker 1: don't mess with that guy. He's a scumback. That guy's

588
00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:35,400
Speaker 1: a bad guy. That guy will totally screw you the

589
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:39,160
Speaker 1: moment you're not paying attention, right, And those type people,

590
00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:42,600
Speaker 1: the faster you learn don't waste your time doing business

591
00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:45,880
Speaker 1: with them, the faster it is to be successful in life,

592
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:48,520
Speaker 1: because that person won't just screw you over, but they'll

593
00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:51,440
Speaker 1: just derail anything you're trying to do. And I think

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Speaker 1: Greg Norman became that fixture with you know, anything that

595
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Speaker 1: live was attempting to accomplish. And I think Scott again

596
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:01,840
Speaker 1: I'm not just saying this. I've never even met the

597
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:04,640
Speaker 1: guy up until I went there and just talking to

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00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:06,240
Speaker 1: other people that know him and then just spend the

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00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:09,400
Speaker 1: day with them. Like I've been lucky enough and my

600
00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:13,200
Speaker 1: short forty years on this planet to just be around

601
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:15,320
Speaker 1: some pretty high level people and some different businesses. And

602
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 1: I was just really really impressed. I really was. And

603
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 1: to me, the thing that was most impressive, and like

604
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:23,200
Speaker 1: I said, the same thing for role app and this

605
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:26,480
Speaker 1: was smart, like you don't like, don't hire these stiff

606
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:30,200
Speaker 1: country club guys to these are businesses the days of

607
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 1: like Jaymon hand you got to do this, like get

608
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:35,120
Speaker 1: the fuck out of here, Greg Norman, like screw you guys.

609
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:38,040
Speaker 1: That's not a way to do business. So I was

610
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:42,480
Speaker 1: blown away by the in person experience which everyone was

611
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:46,480
Speaker 1: having a good time, and I just I've been to

612
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 1: a lot of golf events and that's like sometimes golf

613
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:52,120
Speaker 1: events on TV that can look boring, and then you

614
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:54,640
Speaker 1: go there can be pretty fun. The thing with live

615
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:57,480
Speaker 1: the music, the atmosphere kind of even takes it to

616
00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:01,440
Speaker 1: another level. And I I think I saw Bryce until

617
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 1: McAfee today that that was easily Now Chicago's a pretty

618
00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 1: special event town A lot of younger people out there

619
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:12,840
Speaker 1: and had a good time. But again, like I'm if

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Speaker 1: you're good to me and I think you're impressive, like

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna buy into you. People often say like about

622
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 1: my about football is a good example, like yeah, I

623
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 1: grew up with the forty nine ers, but like, who

624
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:25,160
Speaker 1: am I gonna like? It's not Kyle Shanahan text me

625
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:28,040
Speaker 1: I don't know the guy. I mean, it's if I did,

626
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 1: I would like them even more. But it's like I

627
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 1: can just get on the horn and text Jason Light.

628
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:33,720
Speaker 1: You think I'm not gonna root for the Bucks. John

629
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:35,640
Speaker 1: Schnyder came on my podcast, never even met the guy.

630
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:37,160
Speaker 1: You think I'm not gonna root for the Seattle Seahawks.

631
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:40,800
Speaker 1: I mean Andy Reid essentially and how he hired me

632
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:42,320
Speaker 1: and changed the course of my life. I think I'm

633
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:45,960
Speaker 1: not gonna root for those guys. Right, Life's pretty simple

634
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:48,560
Speaker 1: if I if I meet you, if you impact my life,

635
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:51,560
Speaker 1: if I'm impressed by you, like I'm gonna root for you.

636
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:55,000
Speaker 1: So I think I have not the pretend to be

637
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:57,600
Speaker 1: some lived diehard here, But I was really really impressed

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Speaker 1: by Scott O'Neill. So I I think that I am

639
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Speaker 1: optimistic that things are gonna change. I don't know how,

640
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Speaker 1: but I do think that there will be some dramatic

641
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Speaker 1: movement over the next eighteen months and get some of

642
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 1: their guys potentially playing in some more tournaments, you know,

643
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 1: live this week as their individual championship. Obviously, the Ryder

644
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 1: Cup is right around the corner. John Rahm easily could

645
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 1: have won in Chicago. He has yet to win this year.

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Speaker 1: You know. I think ultimately the Ryder Cup we lost

647
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Speaker 1: some when Tiger and Field didn't play that well, just

648
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 1: like the last time I think in Rome, Scottie Scheffler

649
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 1: did not play that well. If they go into this

650
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Speaker 1: Ryder Cup and John, I mean, I wouldn't shock me

651
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Speaker 1: at all if he wins this week in Indianapolis. He's

652
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:49,520
Speaker 1: playing really, really well. If Rory looks good these next

653
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Speaker 1: couple of weeks, and all of a sudden, the Ryder

654
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 1: Cup is led by Roy McElroy and John Rohm, like

655
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 1: we're gonna need We're gonna need Scotty to be on

656
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:58,600
Speaker 1: his a game luckily is, and then some other people

657
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 1: to help him out. Because I think I think John

658
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:05,120
Speaker 1: Rahm's got a lot of momentum, and I also think

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Speaker 1: just big picture for next year, I'll be a little stunned,

660
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:11,080
Speaker 1: you know. This year, for the first time in a

661
00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 1: couple of years, he was right there with Scotty with

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00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:17,000
Speaker 1: nine holes to go in the PGA Championship. I would

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00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:20,960
Speaker 1: expect him to be a major major factor in at

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Speaker 1: Augusta come the spring. You know, it's a course that

665
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:25,319
Speaker 1: he's very comfortable with. He's obviously won there before, He's

666
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 1: played well there many times. It's just kind of an event.

667
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:31,160
Speaker 1: He's a historian of the game, means a lot to him.

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00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 1: So I think rom who kind of dipped once he

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Speaker 1: left originally for Live, has kind of got a swag back,

670
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 1: you know. And the other thing that you see out

671
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Speaker 1: at what I saw Live Chicago and Bryson going on

672
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:47,720
Speaker 1: Pat McAfee, what he's kind of become for the sport.

673
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 1: I was telling this to Colin. I was saying, this

674
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Speaker 1: is Scott O'Neill. I think currently Bryson is the Steph

675
00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:56,320
Speaker 1: Curry of golf. He's just the guy that every casual

676
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 1: person kind of knows and everyone pays attention to. The YouTube.

677
00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:02,359
Speaker 1: Golf changed it, hitting long shots changed it how good

678
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 1: he has changed it. If you just say I'm at

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00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:07,279
Speaker 1: a tournament and every single guy in the world that

680
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:10,400
Speaker 1: matters is at that tournament. Who if you just pull

681
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 1: casual people like, who do you want to see he

682
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:14,359
Speaker 1: hit a shot right now? I think most of them

683
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:17,320
Speaker 1: would say Bryson. And he's another guy that's going to

684
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Speaker 1: the Ryder Cup with Rom that you know, he to me,

685
00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:25,480
Speaker 1: he was playing excellent early in the season. We'll see

686
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Speaker 1: how he is coming to the Ryder Cup. I mean,

687
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:28,919
Speaker 1: he's going to be a major factor at the Ryder

688
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:30,680
Speaker 1: Cup in terms of how many times he plays. But

689
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 1: he brings a buzz there that is really it's really

690
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 1: hard to deny. I mean it's he's he by far.

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Speaker 1: To me, Rom I might be their best overall player.

692
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:47,240
Speaker 1: Like I think if you just put Rom versus Bryson

693
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Speaker 1: and they played at ten different courses in ten different environments,

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00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:54,680
Speaker 1: I think bright I would say Rom's probably just the

695
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 1: has more shit to his game, can just do more.

696
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:04,120
Speaker 1: But I think Bryson is the more just electric the Showmen,

697
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:06,719
Speaker 1: there's the element of like he's kind of like Phil,

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00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:08,680
Speaker 1: you know, and I think he's kind of the modern

699
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:11,359
Speaker 1: day Phil of just shaking hands, kissing babies, kind of

700
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:13,319
Speaker 1: just at this point in time in his life, just

701
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:27,959
Speaker 1: kind of gets it. Okay, let's answer some questions at Golopod.

702
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:30,800
Speaker 1: At Golopod is the instagram firre In those dms, do

703
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:33,080
Speaker 1: you think we'll ever see a fifth major? The logical

704
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:35,760
Speaker 1: choice would be the Players iconic course and always strong

705
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 1: field seems to always generate more buzz than the PGA Championship.

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00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:43,760
Speaker 1: I don't know how you could just start considering something

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00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:47,440
Speaker 1: a major, right, I have to go back in the

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00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:50,840
Speaker 1: history to find out, like when was the fourth major added?

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00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 1: And how long we had the four majors. But we've

710
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:55,880
Speaker 1: had four majors like my whole life. So if you

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00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:59,319
Speaker 1: just name the Players the fifth major, right, let's just

712
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:02,800
Speaker 1: say two thousand in twenty let's just pick any twenty thirty.

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Speaker 1: They're like, the Players is now the fifth Major? Well,

714
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Speaker 1: if I won the Players in like nineteen eighty eight

715
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Speaker 1: or two thousand and two, do I get to consider

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00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 1: myself a major champion? That's where it would get a

717
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:17,120
Speaker 1: little confusing, and I think kind of convoluted in the

718
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:21,600
Speaker 1: history of the sport. So I would lean we don't

719
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:25,359
Speaker 1: see the fifth major, but like being out there, you know,

720
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 1: Scott's dealing with these guys and dealing with the majors.

721
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:32,960
Speaker 1: There's just one thing with golf is I do think

722
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:36,080
Speaker 1: there's a big change happening, you know, forever. And if

723
00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:38,920
Speaker 1: you're not a big golf guy, I totally understand that

724
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:42,319
Speaker 1: you just view like country club golf stiff, kind of

725
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:44,799
Speaker 1: just a bunch of assholes. And for a long time,

726
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:48,040
Speaker 1: country club was always viewed as like, you know, it's

727
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:50,879
Speaker 1: just kind of the pressy people that are just kind

728
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 1: of rich guys. Now I think the world's changed. I mean, hell,

729
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 1: some of the most expensive country clubs don't have any rules.

730
00:37:57,360 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 1: You can wear whatever you want. The nicest country club

731
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Speaker 1: or the most expensive country club here in around where

732
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:07,280
Speaker 1: I live is Silver Leaf and that's where John Rahm

733
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:09,400
Speaker 1: plays and a bunch of guys play out there. But

734
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:11,839
Speaker 1: Jude John Rahm's a member out there, there is no

735
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Speaker 1: dress code. I had a buddy that played out there

736
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Speaker 1: probably like four months ago, and he's like, you know,

737
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Speaker 1: after we played, we're gonna go to the bar and

738
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:22,440
Speaker 1: grill to like I think they had played at teetoff

739
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:24,839
Speaker 1: at noon and they were having dinner out there and

740
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 1: he's like, uh, I showered first. I went to shower,

741
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 1: I hit the cold tub, and then I wore basketball

742
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:31,799
Speaker 1: shorts and a T shirt. Dinner in the in the

743
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 1: grill because their thing is like, yeah, we want you

744
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 1: to come enjoy it. I mean the country club where

745
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:40,480
Speaker 1: I grew up playing, which is I mean, if silver

746
00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 1: Leaf costs five hundred grand to join, this one costs

747
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:46,640
Speaker 1: about four grand to join. They're like, no jeans in

748
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:49,800
Speaker 1: the clubhouse. It's like, okay, guys, I mean, my fucking

749
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:52,799
Speaker 1: jeans are more than my dockers here. What are we doing?

750
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:55,160
Speaker 1: And they still battle that my brother's a member there now,

751
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:59,439
Speaker 1: and it's just those days are done. You know. It's

752
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 1: like I can't I have my phone out. It's like

753
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:03,440
Speaker 1: I got a business meeting right now. This is where

754
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:04,880
Speaker 1: I come to hang out, but I still got to

755
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 1: do business on the course. You know. It's like, come on, guys,

756
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:10,880
Speaker 1: we've got to adapt question for the bag. Fleetwood just

757
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:13,160
Speaker 1: went in the bunker, assuming he's not gonna make Birdie.

758
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 1: He didn't. Do you think there's a chance we never

759
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:19,960
Speaker 1: see him win on the PGA tour. Huh, I would

760
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:21,920
Speaker 1: say after he lost a Kegan you're like, Okay, some

761
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:24,799
Speaker 1: people think he's he's never gonna win. Then you watch this,

762
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 1: you're like, it's got to be in play. I mean,

763
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:30,120
Speaker 1: there's no disputing. I do think it's at the point

764
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:31,719
Speaker 1: now with like a kicker. You don't when a kicker

765
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Speaker 1: just can't make a kick, it's like, well, he knows

766
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:37,120
Speaker 1: how to make kicks, but there's a mental block, right

767
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:39,839
Speaker 1: Chuck Knoblock. When he couldn't throw to first base, there's

768
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 1: like a metal block. I think there's a metal block.

769
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 1: Something gets in his head that he can't shake the

770
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 1: negative thoughts. Because he hit that shot on whole sixteen

771
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:52,200
Speaker 1: the par five honestly, at two hundred and ten yards

772
00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:54,240
Speaker 1: in he's one of the best iron players on the planet,

773
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 1: and he flies it into the stands and he chips

774
00:39:57,560 --> 00:40:00,120
Speaker 1: it over the green. It's like, Tommy, I've watched you

775
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:03,520
Speaker 1: play the last sixty plus holes. You didn't look anything

776
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:05,759
Speaker 1: like this, what is going on? And then it was

777
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 1: never the same sense, And like you said, eighteen, he

778
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:11,240
Speaker 1: just pumps in the bunker off the tee and blast

779
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:13,279
Speaker 1: the ball over. I mean, it was just it's kind

780
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:17,239
Speaker 1: of rough. Now. If you said, hey, let's say you

781
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:19,399
Speaker 1: gotta you gotta put something on it, like a lot

782
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:22,879
Speaker 1: where you're gonna sweat. Let's say ten thousand dollars. If

783
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Speaker 1: you had to bet ten thousand dollars right now that

784
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:29,480
Speaker 1: Tommy Fleetwood is going to win or not win a

785
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 1: PGA tournament the rest of his career, I think he

786
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:34,839
Speaker 1: would have to bet. I mean, twenty nine times he's

787
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:38,280
Speaker 1: finished in the top five, So just statistically, the odds

788
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:41,279
Speaker 1: are on his side that one of these days he's

789
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Speaker 1: just gonna instead of totally blow it, he's gonna hit

790
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:45,960
Speaker 1: a couple of good shots. And he honestly started doing that.

791
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:48,319
Speaker 1: Like the last couple holes were like I think it

792
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:51,319
Speaker 1: was like twelve thirteen, he buried a couple holes in

793
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:53,359
Speaker 1: the back nine. You're like, Oh, he's gonna win this thing.

794
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:56,200
Speaker 1: He's kinda he's kind of shook off the cob webs here,

795
00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:59,719
Speaker 1: and then he didn't. I've been betting on Fleetwood for

796
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:02,919
Speaker 1: a few years. He is always so close. I thought

797
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:05,480
Speaker 1: I would get all my bets back today. Well, if

798
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:08,120
Speaker 1: you put you might have if he would have won.

799
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Speaker 1: Should I give up on him ever winning? I think

800
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:14,360
Speaker 1: Fleetwood more than any guy on the tour because Scotty.

801
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:17,120
Speaker 1: It's like you could bet top five, but his odds

802
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:19,920
Speaker 1: this week are like minus two sixty five, So you're

803
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 1: gonna bet two hundred and sixty five dollars to win

804
00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:25,239
Speaker 1: one hundred dollars for Scotty shuffer to top five. Now

805
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:27,799
Speaker 1: you could argue it's like, well, Johnny's probably lock top five,

806
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:29,879
Speaker 1: and like, hey, probably right, but it's like that those

807
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 1: aren't fun bets. I do think Tommy Fleetwood, his odds

808
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:36,200
Speaker 1: to top ten and top five are always really high.

809
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 1: I mean a lot of times you could get Tommy

810
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:41,799
Speaker 1: Fleetwood in the plus money, like plus one ten, plus one,

811
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Speaker 1: twenty five to top twenty in golf tournaments. So I

812
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 1: think you just can't bet on him to win, even

813
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 1: though I was looking at it last year at this

814
00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:54,480
Speaker 1: tournament at the BMW he finished fifth. I was like,

815
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:56,960
Speaker 1: twenty to one. Should I throw a little money on him?

816
00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:01,080
Speaker 1: Is the scar tissue? You know? Strong from last week?

817
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:06,120
Speaker 1: But he's going to win eventually. He's going to win eventually,

818
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:08,440
Speaker 1: you would think, and you know what, that's what I'm

819
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:11,680
Speaker 1: talking about, which when he finally does, hopefully, he just

820
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 1: breaks down in tears and it's like one of the

821
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:16,759
Speaker 1: coolest emotional moments on the PGA Tour in a long

822
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:20,360
Speaker 1: long time, because it would be what's your background in

823
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 1: competitive golf? Did you play competitively growing up? And have

824
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 1: you ever ventured into the tournament scene as an adult.

825
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:30,880
Speaker 1: I played like junior tournaments as a kid. I played

826
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 1: in high school. I was never that good. I mean

827
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Speaker 1: I was probably looking back, I was shooting more like

828
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:42,279
Speaker 1: eighty to eighty five. Even in high school. I didn't practice.

829
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:45,160
Speaker 1: I didn't know how to practice. I didn't want to practice.

830
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:48,680
Speaker 1: I actually didn't take it that seriously. I'm a much

831
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:52,960
Speaker 1: better player just in terms of thinking about golf now.

832
00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 1: I mean, if I could do it over again, which

833
00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:57,480
Speaker 1: I'm not a big fan of do it over again

834
00:42:57,480 --> 00:43:01,320
Speaker 1: because it's no, you can't in life, but if I could,

835
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:05,360
Speaker 1: I it's easy to say, but so it's stupid to

836
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:06,840
Speaker 1: be like, well, I just wouldn't have played football in

837
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:10,279
Speaker 1: high school. I would have just focused on golf. But no,

838
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:14,440
Speaker 1: I wouldn't trade that. So I just didn't take it

839
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:16,919
Speaker 1: very seriously when I was young, and then I didn't

840
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 1: play in my twenties when I was just working ninety

841
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:22,200
Speaker 1: nine hours a week. And I've played a lot more

842
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:24,640
Speaker 1: in my thirties. But I've never I mean tournaments. I've

843
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:27,920
Speaker 1: played like member guest tournaments, but I'm not gonna play,

844
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 1: you know, like individual tournaments. I get my juices and

845
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 1: my highes from podcasts into the business and doing this,

846
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:38,960
Speaker 1: the business aspect of all the stuff we got going

847
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:41,400
Speaker 1: on with this. I like playing golf. It's kind of

848
00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:43,920
Speaker 1: my release. No, I don't mind, like me and my

849
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:46,920
Speaker 1: brother will play one hundred dollars a whole, right, I mean,

850
00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 1: I like gambling. We play I wouldn't say huge money

851
00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 1: games with some of the buddet my buddies at TPC,

852
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:55,839
Speaker 1: but you know what, you have a bad day, you'll

853
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:59,839
Speaker 1: give up. You lose one hundred bucks. I like doing that.

854
00:43:59,920 --> 00:44:02,080
Speaker 1: I like enjoying it. I don't want to play like

855
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:05,840
Speaker 1: serious rounds. That's not those days. It's not really for me.

856
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:10,839
Speaker 1: I actually live about fifteen minutes from Bowling Brook Country Club.

857
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:14,319
Speaker 1: So I hope you enjoyed Chicago Land cool. One thing

858
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:19,560
Speaker 1: about Chicago, the suburbs are just pretty beautiful. They're green.

859
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:24,480
Speaker 1: Where Colin lived, Downtown was awesome. It's like god, I

860
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:26,640
Speaker 1: mean this is this is a pretty sweet town. The

861
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:30,680
Speaker 1: other thing we went to dinner on Friday night. I mean,

862
00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:33,040
Speaker 1: it was a pretty sweet weekend. Flew in. I was

863
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:35,879
Speaker 1: just going to stay at a hotel and someone from

864
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:38,439
Speaker 1: the volume was like, Colin, want you stay at his house?

865
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:40,879
Speaker 1: So then I texted him. He's like, yeah, just stay

866
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:43,759
Speaker 1: at my house. So I just his wife was in

867
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:46,239
Speaker 1: Rhode Island, so it's just me and him. So I

868
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:48,279
Speaker 1: fly in. I just go to his house. Like you

869
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:49,840
Speaker 1: want to go dinner. I'm like, yeah, let's go to dinner.

870
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:53,320
Speaker 1: So we go to steakhouse. He's like, watch the price

871
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:57,280
Speaker 1: points of food here, because, like you know, La obviously

872
00:44:57,320 --> 00:45:00,919
Speaker 1: is really expensive. Scottsdale is probably the most over place

873
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:04,520
Speaker 1: in the country. At most restaurants, we have cocktails, we

874
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:07,800
Speaker 1: have oysters, We get a couple of steaks and French fries.

875
00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:09,880
Speaker 1: He shows me the bill. It's one hundred and forty bucks.

876
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:14,640
Speaker 1: I'm like, the equivalent of this restaurant in Scottsdale would

877
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:16,399
Speaker 1: have been like three hundred bucks for what we just bought.

878
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:21,200
Speaker 1: I'm like, I really appreciate the price points in the Midwest.

879
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:24,960
Speaker 1: I mean, that was how nice it is, how beautiful

880
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:29,440
Speaker 1: the suburbs are. Went to his gym before Saturday. You

881
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:32,520
Speaker 1: might have been fucking nicest three story gym I've ever

882
00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:35,400
Speaker 1: seen in my life. So I was blown away by Chicago.

883
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:38,080
Speaker 1: The question is, I'm trying to argue Phil just simply

884
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:41,560
Speaker 1: isn't a top ten golfer. I'm trying. I have someone

885
00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 1: trying to argue that Phil simply isn't a top ten

886
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:46,640
Speaker 1: golfer and proceeded to just count trophies instead of getting

887
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:52,399
Speaker 1: into actual golf. I think Phil is I mean, think

888
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 1: about this post Jack and Arnold and Lee Trevino. I

889
00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:00,960
Speaker 1: guess you would say Tom Watson like the sventies and eighties,

890
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:05,759
Speaker 1: but over the last thirty five years he's clearly the

891
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:08,840
Speaker 1: second best player. And I would say the last seventy

892
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:12,440
Speaker 1: eighty years. I mean, how many guys you got Ben Hogan,

893
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:15,480
Speaker 1: you got Jack, you got Tiger. I mean, I'm just

894
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:22,360
Speaker 1: throwing out names Arnold Palmer, Tom Watson, Gary Player, And

895
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:25,040
Speaker 1: I think when you factor in the importance of the

896
00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:28,960
Speaker 1: way Phil, you know, interacted with the crowd, his personality,

897
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:32,839
Speaker 1: I think he's one of the most important guys in

898
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:36,680
Speaker 1: the history of the game. To me, he's a top

899
00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:39,960
Speaker 1: ten player for sure. I have a mile take here

900
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:43,840
Speaker 1: and wanted to gather your thoughts. Scheffler borderline saved the

901
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:47,640
Speaker 1: PGA Tour with the live versus PGA rivalry. Beside Rory,

902
00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:49,839
Speaker 1: there has not been much star power over the last

903
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:52,879
Speaker 1: few years winning big time tournaments. Guys like Xander, JJ

904
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:55,719
Speaker 1: Spond and Brian Harmon don't move the needle for the

905
00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:59,759
Speaker 1: common fan. If Scotty wasn't so dominant right now, I

906
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:03,600
Speaker 1: think the PGA would have been in trouble. Thoughts. I

907
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:06,640
Speaker 1: would say Rory as well. I mean, Rory could have

908
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:10,000
Speaker 1: won four Majors over the last four years. Scotty's obviously

909
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:13,640
Speaker 1: won three, Rory's won the one. But those guys, those

910
00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:18,120
Speaker 1: two specifically, I mean Rory was a household, a big

911
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:21,359
Speaker 1: star and started playing at an elite level these last

912
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:23,480
Speaker 1: couple of years, and then winning the Master I mean

913
00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:25,400
Speaker 1: the Master's won the highest rated golf tournaments of the

914
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:29,000
Speaker 1: last like ten fifteen years, not named Tiger Phil. So

915
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:31,600
Speaker 1: I would put Rory and Scotty in there as well.

916
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:35,680
Speaker 1: But that's golf, you know, I mean, that's tennis is

917
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:36,960
Speaker 1: the same way. If they don't have a start, no

918
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:40,040
Speaker 1: one cares, So golf is not. I've said this forever.

919
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 1: Golf's not strong enough and this is what I was talking

920
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:44,920
Speaker 1: Scott O'Neal about. It's like, you guys have Bryson like

921
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:48,840
Speaker 1: that's he's a pretty valuable property, right you know, Phil's

922
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:52,120
Speaker 1: fifty five. So while Phil's a legendary individual, and he

923
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:54,400
Speaker 1: got a huge standing ovation out there when I was

924
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:57,359
Speaker 1: there because he was in the lead, I mean just

925
00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:01,080
Speaker 1: the PGA Tour doesn't need him, right uh, but they

926
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:04,480
Speaker 1: need Bryson, and golf needs It's why these majors have

927
00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:08,680
Speaker 1: been so big, because you know, Koepka last year winning

928
00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:12,440
Speaker 1: the PGA two years ago. It's not strong enough to

929
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:16,000
Speaker 1: just split up this tournament. So you need the top guys.

930
00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:19,239
Speaker 1: And I think there are three guys who are head

931
00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:22,440
Speaker 1: and shoulders in terms of fame and needle moving above

932
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:25,719
Speaker 1: everyone else right now, Scotty, Rory and Bryson. I'd even

933
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:27,839
Speaker 1: you know, Rom I would put on their level as

934
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:30,560
Speaker 1: a player when he's on, but I don't know, he's

935
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:35,279
Speaker 1: quite the needle mover. So yeah, I mean I think

936
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:41,560
Speaker 1: Scotty's Scotty's rise has been very important. Xander just I mean,

937
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:43,160
Speaker 1: Xander seems like a good guy when he's on, like

938
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:45,879
Speaker 1: Bob the Sports He's funny, but it's not a big

939
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:48,600
Speaker 1: personality when it comes to the media. Scotty's actually sneaky,

940
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:51,759
Speaker 1: pretty good to the media. If you were a tour

941
00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:54,799
Speaker 1: pro who hit sixty percent of fairways on average, would

942
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:58,359
Speaker 1: you rather be on the sixty percent fairways hit train

943
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:01,200
Speaker 1: or take one hundred percent? If your drives landing in

944
00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:04,600
Speaker 1: the first cut, assume average tour distance off the tee,

945
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:08,719
Speaker 1: this means no fairways, but no thick roff. Also, cut

946
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:14,000
Speaker 1: usually is good enough to generate spin. I think most

947
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:18,120
Speaker 1: of the PGA golf tournaments you play the rough. Isn't

948
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:21,759
Speaker 1: that crazy? Like even walking around at Bowling Brook. The

949
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:23,520
Speaker 1: one thing they've done the last couple of tournaments that

950
00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:25,560
Speaker 1: live is like grown out the rough. There is a

951
00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:28,319
Speaker 1: big difference in some courses if they grow out the rough. Right,

952
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:31,280
Speaker 1: Being in the rough and being in the first cut

953
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:34,560
Speaker 1: is night and day difference. Right, It's like the difference

954
00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:36,720
Speaker 1: between like a ten yard first down like a fifty

955
00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:41,720
Speaker 1: yard bomb. I mean, it is devastating, but I think

956
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:45,000
Speaker 1: on the aggregate on the PGA Tour, I wouldn't mind

957
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:47,120
Speaker 1: being in the rough if I was a PGA Tour player,

958
00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:50,759
Speaker 1: so I would take the fairways hit because you'd be

959
00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:52,680
Speaker 1: playing a lot of tournaments like the one thing on

960
00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:54,480
Speaker 1: the PGA Tour. You play a lot of tournaments where

961
00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:57,040
Speaker 1: you got a birdie a lot and you have a

962
00:49:57,080 --> 00:50:01,239
Speaker 1: big advantage playing from the fairway. And I think some

963
00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:03,200
Speaker 1: of these tournaments from the rough aren't that. I mean,

964
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:05,879
Speaker 1: how many half the tournaments you're in the rough? It's

965
00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:07,480
Speaker 1: like not that big a deal. Now some of the

966
00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:09,400
Speaker 1: ones you are, it's like, okay, you might be screwed.

967
00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:14,040
Speaker 1: But how many guys are hidden eighty percent of the fairways?

968
00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:18,640
Speaker 1: So I would choose if you're long, it's a no.

969
00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:23,480
Speaker 1: Like Bryson or Xander or Rory, they would go. They

970
00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:25,759
Speaker 1: would choose the sixty in the fairway all day long.

971
00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:30,280
Speaker 1: If you're short, like if you're like Brian Harmon, maybe

972
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:34,759
Speaker 1: you would choose the first cut. But that would be

973
00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:39,720
Speaker 1: an unreal question to like ask a PGA Tour player

974
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:42,799
Speaker 1: because they would have like a legitimate answer based on

975
00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:46,720
Speaker 1: their experience. You can't say they need to slowly integrate

976
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:49,480
Speaker 1: live players of the PGA. As commissioner, the message that

977
00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:52,160
Speaker 1: sends the PGA guys is that you s took pad,

978
00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:55,160
Speaker 1: stayed with us, and bent us over. After all that

979
00:50:55,239 --> 00:51:00,480
Speaker 1: holding out. The PGA has turned. They've shifted from the

980
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:07,160
Speaker 1: the UH tax exempt entity, the charity element to a

981
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:09,880
Speaker 1: for profit business. That's where role app comes in. And

982
00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:12,879
Speaker 1: they gave players equity in the business. If you give

983
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:15,680
Speaker 1: me equity in a business, I want to make that

984
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:20,680
Speaker 1: business as big and profitable as possible. Why because that's

985
00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:24,360
Speaker 1: where I profit. So if I'm justin Thomas and I

986
00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:26,759
Speaker 1: stayed and I was probably mad a couple of years ago,

987
00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:29,400
Speaker 1: Jordan Speed, Well, now if I own some of this,

988
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:32,919
Speaker 1: I want Bryson to be part of the thing I own.

989
00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:38,920
Speaker 1: So I would have no problem extending Hey, you get

990
00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:41,719
Speaker 1: you know if I wouldn't do this to every guy,

991
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:45,200
Speaker 1: like I'm not Lee Westwood's not getting invites, but of

992
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:51,239
Speaker 1: the players that matter, starting with Bryson, Kopka, DJ, Phil

993
00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:54,680
Speaker 1: would be interesting. Phil probably wouldn't even take it, Joaquin Nieman,

994
00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:58,640
Speaker 1: Cam Smith like some famous American and international guys that

995
00:51:58,719 --> 00:52:01,760
Speaker 1: live in the States. I'm giving you five options throughout

996
00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:04,799
Speaker 1: the season to play in tournaments. I promise you they

997
00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:07,840
Speaker 1: would use them and the tour would benefit from the ratings.

998
00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:10,920
Speaker 1: It's like, Hey, Rom, Bryson and Kepka are the playing

999
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:15,080
Speaker 1: this week at Pebble Beach. Guess what that is. That's

1000
00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:17,759
Speaker 1: good for business, And if I own a business, I

1001
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:22,439
Speaker 1: want the best for the interest of that thing I own.

1002
00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:25,600
Speaker 1: And in golf like the more eyeballs the better. You

1003
00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:27,800
Speaker 1: make a great point about the craziness of the Ryder

1004
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:31,920
Speaker 1: Cup clashing with football. My solution, play the Cup Wednesday

1005
00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:34,720
Speaker 1: through Friday should make no difference to the player schedule

1006
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:37,719
Speaker 1: except maybe a positive one, and the fans get to

1007
00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:41,320
Speaker 1: watch both football and the single greatest mental test in golf.

1008
00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:45,160
Speaker 1: Why it won't happen, We've never done that before. I

1009
00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:48,200
Speaker 1: think the reason it won't happen is not that we've

1010
00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:51,600
Speaker 1: never done that before. I do think the TV execs

1011
00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:56,680
Speaker 1: would say this. For as shitty as it is on Sunday,

1012
00:52:56,840 --> 00:53:00,480
Speaker 1: going up having John Rahm going head to head with

1013
00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:03,640
Speaker 1: Sanders Shoffley and Scotty going head to head with you know,

1014
00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:07,560
Speaker 1: Rory McElroy and Bryceon going head to head with Tommy Fleetwood,

1015
00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:11,600
Speaker 1: you know singles matches up against the Giants playing the

1016
00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:15,759
Speaker 1: Eagles and the Niners playing Seattle. It's still better than

1017
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:19,000
Speaker 1: being on TV in the middle of the day on Thursday.

1018
00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:22,080
Speaker 1: Because even though technology our schedules are a lot different.

1019
00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:26,919
Speaker 1: There is something powerful about people just not watching TV

1020
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:29,279
Speaker 1: at the same rate during the middle of the day

1021
00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:32,160
Speaker 1: during the week. So I hear what you're saying. I

1022
00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:34,600
Speaker 1: think that would be the pushback from the networks, because

1023
00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:37,440
Speaker 1: you're right, it would change the players zero. Whether you're

1024
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:39,360
Speaker 1: playing golf on Thursday or with her plans, it doesn't

1025
00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:43,000
Speaker 1: matter to them, but it matters for the broadcast window.

1026
00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:46,759
Speaker 1: And I just don't think anyone would watch. I'm a

1027
00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:50,000
Speaker 1: golfer in Nairobi, Kenya. God, we got a big ass

1028
00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:55,680
Speaker 1: audience here. I'm from the Couu tribe and Kenya and

1029
00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:59,600
Speaker 1: the Couu grass is named after my people. Damn. I

1030
00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:05,280
Speaker 1: hear about the grass types Couu, Bermuda, Poa, bent grass,

1031
00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:08,360
Speaker 1: rye grass. Question is witch grass makes the best and

1032
00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:11,439
Speaker 1: most challenging greens in fairways and which presents the most

1033
00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:16,800
Speaker 1: challenging rough I haven't played that much golf in Florida,

1034
00:54:17,360 --> 00:54:19,640
Speaker 1: which has a lot different grass than we have on

1035
00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:22,560
Speaker 1: the West coast. You know. I've grown up playing Bermuda

1036
00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:28,960
Speaker 1: grass and Poa greens, so bumpy greens. And I'm probably

1037
00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:32,400
Speaker 1: the wrong guy ask because I don't have a great

1038
00:54:32,560 --> 00:54:36,239
Speaker 1: understanding of like what bent grass is around the greens

1039
00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:42,120
Speaker 1: or the rye grass that I think it kind of explodes.

1040
00:54:43,239 --> 00:54:47,640
Speaker 1: That's another question that like, even if you're a casual guy,

1041
00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:50,239
Speaker 1: if you've with business, you've flown around and you've just

1042
00:54:50,239 --> 00:54:51,960
Speaker 1: taken your clubs. It's like, I've played in Florida, I've

1043
00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:54,520
Speaker 1: played in Texas, I've played in the Northeast. I mean,

1044
00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:58,319
Speaker 1: I've played in the Northeast. I've played in Nashville, I've

1045
00:54:58,320 --> 00:55:01,400
Speaker 1: played in Jersey, I've played in Philly, played in Arizona.

1046
00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:04,719
Speaker 1: But a lot of times I don't, like I'm not

1047
00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:08,080
Speaker 1: nerdy enough to quite know unless I'm playing with someone

1048
00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:10,200
Speaker 1: that's really tied into like, hey, we're playing this level

1049
00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:12,360
Speaker 1: of grass, and even if we are, that doesn't change

1050
00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:16,480
Speaker 1: what I'm doing. So I kept calling it the Couu.

1051
00:55:16,520 --> 00:55:22,600
Speaker 1: It's a Kakua Cocu youu, the Coku you tribe. That's cool.

1052
00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:26,759
Speaker 1: It's a good little nugget. Uh. Have you become a

1053
00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:31,440
Speaker 1: regular listener? Just graduated from cal Poly? Congratulations? Question is

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Speaker 1: about your warm up? Do you tackle the range, short

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Speaker 1: game area and putting green the same way every time

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Speaker 1: or do you mix it up depending on the day. Uh? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean there's typically a warm up. Again, I'm on

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Speaker 1: a casual fore handicap, so it's like, if the game's

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Speaker 1: cooperating with me, I can shoot seventy five. If it's not,

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Speaker 1: I can easily shoot eighty five. But I am not

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Speaker 1: getting there an hour and a half before and doing

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Speaker 1: putting green chipping, starting with my wedge, working my way

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Speaker 1: through the driver. Sometimes I'll show up twenty minutes before

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Speaker 1: I tee off, grab a wedge or an eight iron,

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Speaker 1: a three wood in the driver, hit some balls, a

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Speaker 1: couple of putts, and go. So I do not this

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Speaker 1: is not I'm not approaching this thing like I'm Scotti

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Speaker 1: Scheffler or bryceon d Schambeau. I'm going to have a

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Speaker 1: good time, hang kind of get loose. If anything, I

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Speaker 1: if I go to the gym before I play, I

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Speaker 1: try to do a couple like go to stretches because

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Speaker 1: my hips are tight, and so I try to stretch out. Honestly,

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Speaker 1: for me, stretching and hitting some shots are probably more

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Speaker 1: important than like a consistent warm up. I have to

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Speaker 1: be loose. But my warm up no rhyme or reason,

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Speaker 1: not taking it that seriously. But again then I gotta get.

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Speaker 1: That's why I don't get as mad at myself. Like

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Speaker 1: if I when I flop a chip, it's like, well,

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Speaker 1: I haven't practiced chipping in a month, right, But like

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Speaker 1: that's if I did practice a little more, I think

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Speaker 1: I could I get to a scratch. Probably not, but

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Speaker 1: I could get to a lower single digit and it's

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Speaker 1: be a more consistent player. Simple question, what is your

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Speaker 1: favorite club in the bag? I would say over the

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Speaker 1: last three or four months, I've really dialed in my driver,

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Speaker 1: and I actually, over the last month worked on a

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Speaker 1: draw because I saw tigers like close your feet, close

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Speaker 1: my feet, take the take my club a little more inside,

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Speaker 1: and I've been able to play a draw, my go

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Speaker 1: to shots, a power cut, you know, two eighty five

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Speaker 1: to night, I may hit the ball pretty fall off

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Speaker 1: the and it's been pretty accurate. So I would say

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Speaker 1: right now my favorite club in my bag is my

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Speaker 1: callaway Driver, which is just it's been pretty potent. My

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Speaker 1: putting is probably my it's I love the way it looks.

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Speaker 1: My wife got it a Scottie Cameron that's kind of

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Speaker 1: painted with like Michael Jordan colors, bulls colors, like it

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Speaker 1: looks like a shoe but it's just I don't. I

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Speaker 1: don't brax putting, don't really there's an element of luck there,

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Speaker 1: but it's a driver. Then I'd say like eight iron.

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Speaker 1: I like a good short iron, especially like a back

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Speaker 1: right pin where I can just kind of open that

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Speaker 1: feet and play a power cut from about you know,

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Speaker 1: one sixty five. My least favorite club would probably be sandwich.

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Speaker 1: Not I don't mind a sandwich from like ninety one

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Speaker 1: hundred yards. I'm hitting a full shot, but you give

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Speaker 1: me like a thirty yard shot a chip, I'm in

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Speaker 1: major trouble. Have a great day, See you guys later.

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Speaker 1: Piece the volume