1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:05,640 Speaker 1: And now Moved the Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky 2 00:00:05,720 --> 00:00:09,719 Speaker 1: Brooks all busy week on the Pro Day circuit. As 3 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:11,639 Speaker 1: we welcome you to the latest edition that He Moved 4 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 1: the Sticks podcast. I got Bucky Brooks in the house. 5 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 1: I am the ghost of Rhet Lewis, the real Rehtt 6 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 1: Lewis died in fact, waiting for Drew Lock to throw 7 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:27,480 Speaker 1: to no, no, no, for sure. What we experienced today 8 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 1: was unlike anything I have ever experienced when it comes 9 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 1: to a Pro Day. We were in full hurry up 10 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 1: and wait. Oh my goodness. I mean people out there, 11 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 1: fans of the show, that we're watching the Pro Day 12 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 1: special today, I apologize. I tease to you that we 13 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:44,239 Speaker 1: were gonna have Drew Locks Pro Day coming up for 14 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:48,519 Speaker 1: two hours. I mean really two plus. He came on 15 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:52,880 Speaker 1: at about was one five Eastern time. I mean, you 16 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 1: did a great job of teasing it. Yeah, thanks, thanks, 17 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 1: I did that all for you. I mean a great 18 00:00:57,000 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 1: job of teasing. Hey, he's about a throw. He is 19 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:03,639 Speaker 1: going to throw. Trust me, he did, in fact throw. 20 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:05,759 Speaker 1: We'll get to his Pro Day here in just a moment. 21 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 1: In fact, that's why I am, in fact in for 22 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 1: Daniel Jeremiah. He has been out on the road. He is, uh, 23 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 1: I assuming somewhere in between Columbia, Missouri and back here 24 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 1: in l A. Uh. The biggest question though, is how 25 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:22,560 Speaker 1: much Chick fil A he's actually can out of the road. 26 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:27,320 Speaker 1: It's uh, it could get ugly, yeah, I mean because 27 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 1: he likes to real simple, five minutes in and out, 28 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 1: throw that thing away and then let's move on. Let's 29 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 1: get back into the tape. That's that's what he's doing. 30 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:37,680 Speaker 1: I love DJ. He did a great job for us 31 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 1: out on the road. And let's start with Dwayne Haskins. 32 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 1: Is pro Day. We had that for you Wednesday right 33 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 1: here in NFL Network. Look, this was probably my favorite 34 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 1: pro day that we've done thus far this season. Um 35 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 1: it was. It was a really impressive workout for Dwayne 36 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 1: Haskins for a lot of different reasons. Hit some of 37 00:01:56,960 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 1: those for us right now, Buck. You know, Dwayne Haskins 38 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 1: has always been a very very impressive prospect, Like even 39 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 1: though he's a one year starter, but when you watched 40 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 1: him on tape, what he was able to do in 41 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 1: the big ten fifty touchdowns, eight or interception, so you 42 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:12,079 Speaker 1: knew he was really talented. But then when you watched 43 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 1: him throw at the workout, I think he confirmed all 44 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 1: those things. Classic drop back passer, a guy with exceptional 45 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 1: arm talent can make every throw and really make it 46 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 1: very effortlessly. UM. And then he what he tried to 47 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 1: do was answer some of the questions about the subtle 48 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:30,079 Speaker 1: movement and the pocket. The subtle movement is being able 49 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 1: to stay within the pocket and doing those things. And 50 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 1: what I've said and what I've continue to say is 51 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 1: he is the traditional drop back pastor that has been 52 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 1: a dominant player in our league for the last thirty years. 53 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 1: His ability to make throws from the pocket is exactly 54 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 1: what every offensive coordinator UM has always wanted. And I 55 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 1: think when you look at him and how he plays, 56 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:52,919 Speaker 1: the question that you have is Kenny survived? Is he 57 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 1: going to be a sitting duck? And then secondly, how 58 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 1: does that experience a lack of experience translate into performance 59 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 1: early in his career. And I think at the pro 60 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 1: day I come away a little more convinced that he 61 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:06,640 Speaker 1: will be able to have success right away because Um, 62 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 1: not only the talent, but I feel like he's a 63 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 1: very mature, charismatic leader who just kind of connects with 64 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 1: his teammates, and then when you talk to people about 65 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 1: how he's interviewed and what he's been able to display 66 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 1: um when it comes to working the board man, he's 67 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 1: smart as with He's an A plus kid when it 68 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:25,080 Speaker 1: comes to his i Q. I just think he is 69 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:27,640 Speaker 1: destined for stardom in the league, and I think the 70 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:29,799 Speaker 1: Pro day workout gave you a glimpse at what he 71 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 1: could be at the next level. Ohio State records seven 72 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 1: Big ten records, including those fifty touchdown passes which breaks 73 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 1: Drew Brees is Big ten mark which he sat back 74 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 1: at Perdue look impressive all in one season. And so 75 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 1: with that comes a little extra scrutiny, right would he 76 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 1: have been able to stack that on top of one 77 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 1: another and keep going in the other thing that you 78 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 1: bring up with a guy with limited experience as the leadership, 79 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 1: how does he respond to the guys? And I thought 80 00:03:56,840 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 1: Ryan Day kind of helped answer that for us when 81 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 1: he sat down with DJ after the Haskins workout and 82 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 1: said that he saw Dwayne's leadership evolved after he got 83 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 1: more games under his belt. And the one thing that 84 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 1: I'll say about him and just observing him in interviews 85 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 1: going all the way back to the Super Bowl and 86 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 1: then seeing him talk to our guys there after the workout, 87 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 1: comfortable in the spotlight and buck that is something that 88 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 1: would play well if, in fact, the Giants who are 89 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 1: sitting there at number six, who had Pat Schurmer in attendance, Uh, 90 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 1: if they decide to turn in the card with haskins 91 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:32,160 Speaker 1: name on it. Yeah, because I think you have to 92 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:34,919 Speaker 1: be very comfortable with the personality, especially if you're the 93 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 1: Giants coming on the heels of whatever their reasons for 94 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 1: getting rid of Odell Beckham Jr. Um. The guy who's 95 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:43,040 Speaker 1: going to be the long term face of the franchise 96 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 1: has to be someone that kind of falls in line 97 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 1: with maybe that little more conservative slant that the Giants 98 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:50,279 Speaker 1: want to take when he comes to being kind of 99 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:53,599 Speaker 1: the bill of the ball. And so Dwayne Haskins I 100 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 1: believe can not only handle the spotlight, but I think 101 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 1: he understands how to kind of subdue it when he 102 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 1: needs to so that he can maintain his focus on 103 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:05,719 Speaker 1: being the best football player, the best team leader that 104 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:08,920 Speaker 1: he needs to be, and not necessarily the Broadway star 105 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:11,719 Speaker 1: that everyone is kind of celebrating and doing those things. 106 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:15,159 Speaker 1: Um in terms of the endorsements and the altar field stuff, 107 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:17,480 Speaker 1: that he's a football focused guy and that he's going 108 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 1: to be the best player that he can be because 109 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 1: he's gonna put the work in. Yeah, no question. And 110 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 1: you know he said he's okay if he is drafted 111 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:26,479 Speaker 1: by the Giants. Was a Giants fan growing up in 112 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:30,360 Speaker 1: New Jersey, Okay, sitting behind Eli Manning, who the Giants 113 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 1: have made quite clear is their guy right now for 114 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 1: twenty nights. Now that said, I think with Dwayne Askins 115 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 1: and thinking about the Giants um, David Gettleman said something 116 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 1: a few weeks ago. We talked about the Kansas City 117 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:45,599 Speaker 1: model working really well for Pat Mahomes, and I think, 118 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:48,119 Speaker 1: what is I don't know if Gettleman is boxed into 119 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 1: anything right now at this point at number six. I 120 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 1: think he could be swayed and convinced to and maybe 121 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 1: I do need to take a quarterback option. Maybe or 122 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:58,040 Speaker 1: maybe you know what, I feel like the past Russians 123 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:00,360 Speaker 1: are gonna give us more bang for the buck. Say 124 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:02,360 Speaker 1: what you want to about them not taking the quarterback 125 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 1: last year, Sae Kwon Barkley they hit on. Sae Kwon 126 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:07,360 Speaker 1: Barkley was everything that we thought it would be. And 127 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 1: so if they get another blue chip player at that 128 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 1: bick and then maybe come back later and get the quarterback, 129 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 1: how can you knock the plan? And so he just 130 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 1: has to make a decision. Is Dwayne Haskins worthy of 131 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 1: being the number six big based on his personality in 132 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 1: his game? Not likely? Nick Bosa there at number six 133 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:26,599 Speaker 1: when the Giants hit the clock, certainly expecting him to 134 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 1: be gone in the top five, did not get to 135 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:31,360 Speaker 1: see him at the Pro Day, but look, he answered 136 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 1: all the questions at the combine right, And you know 137 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 1: even though we only saw him in three games in 138 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 1: his final year at Ohio State. Uh, you have any 139 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 1: any issue with him passing on? No, because that's why 140 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 1: you should work at the Common. You work at a 141 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 1: comma because every gymer manager, every head coach, every scout 142 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 1: in the league there in attendance. And so if you 143 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 1: knock out your work out at the comment, if you 144 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 1: kind of check all the marks, there's really no need 145 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 1: for you to participate in the Pro Day. And because 146 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 1: we have seen i won't say a rap ash of injuries, 147 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:03,920 Speaker 1: because we've seen a number of injuries pop up of 148 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 1: high profile guys there's no need for him to put 149 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 1: himself at risk. He's showing everybody everything that he could display. 150 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 1: Right now, it's just about him getting ready to get 151 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 1: for get ready for training camp and to hear his 152 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 1: name calling on Draft night. There's nothing else that he's 153 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:20,240 Speaker 1: gonna show it a Pro day that ultimately gonna change 154 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 1: the draft. Still, they're talking with coaches and general managers. 155 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 1: In fact, had dinner with the forty Niners contingent, including 156 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 1: GM John Lynch night before the Pro day, forty owners 157 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 1: of the number two overall pick. And we've got the 158 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 1: three sixty series coming back this year, Bucky two Buckeyes 159 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 1: in fact leading off the three sixty series this year. 160 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 1: We'll have Dwayne Haskins three sixty Tuesday, March and then 161 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 1: we'll hear the story, the full story on Bosa Tuesday, 162 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 1: April second. How about we get back in time a 163 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 1: little bit to Tuesday. Had to throw my analyst hat 164 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 1: on for this one, uh on NFL Network. Yes, they 165 00:07:57,000 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 1: had to do it, had to do it as we 166 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 1: got to look at the Alabama Pro Day, no quarterback 167 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 1: this year, throwing that could certainly change next year. Well, 168 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 1: maybe we'll get to that. We'll get to that, but 169 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 1: you know, before we break down the Crimson Tide prospects. 170 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 1: DJ there in Tuscaloosa, so is Kim Jones UH for 171 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 1: NFL Network on Tuesday, and they caught up with head 172 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 1: coach Nick Saban and projected first round pick defensive tackle 173 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 1: Quinnin Williams along with Kim Jones were pleased to be 174 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 1: joined by the man who runs this place, coach, Nick Saban. Coach, 175 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 1: thank you so much for taking some time for us today. 176 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 1: Good to be here. What's the feeling like on a 177 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:36,199 Speaker 1: day like today, It's almost it feels like another graduation 178 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:41,079 Speaker 1: for these players. Well, I certainly appreciate what all these 179 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:43,439 Speaker 1: guys have done to help us be successful. They've done 180 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 1: a great job for us here, and we know it's 181 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:48,720 Speaker 1: a lot of them streamed to have an opportunity to 182 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 1: play at the next level. So we'd like to help 183 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:53,719 Speaker 1: them every way that we can, uh, so they get 184 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 1: the best opportunity to have a chance to play at 185 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:58,720 Speaker 1: the next level. And UH, it's good to see, you know, 186 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:01,320 Speaker 1: all the people from the NFL here who are showing 187 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 1: interest in these players, which is a good start for him. Nick. 188 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:08,200 Speaker 1: Quentin Williams is a little bit of a phenomenon to 189 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:10,680 Speaker 1: those of us who weren't around him for his whole career. 190 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:13,440 Speaker 1: A one year guy, But what did you see from 191 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:16,360 Speaker 1: him that led you to believe he could be this player? Well, 192 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 1: we like Quentin coming out of high school. You know, 193 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:20,240 Speaker 1: he wasn't quite as big as a lot of the 194 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 1: other guys that would be the so called five star 195 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:25,560 Speaker 1: guy or whatever. H And maybe that's why he didn't 196 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:29,320 Speaker 1: get recruited quite as highly as some others. But we 197 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 1: thought because of his quickness and his athleticism, he could develop, 198 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:34,680 Speaker 1: you know, this kind of size and strength that he 199 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:38,320 Speaker 1: needed to be a very dominant player and actually played 200 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:41,720 Speaker 1: well for us prior to this year, just went sort 201 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 1: of under the radar because he didn't play all that much. 202 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:46,959 Speaker 1: But we always thought he could be a really, really 203 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:49,440 Speaker 1: good player, and he certainly didn't disappoint us this year 204 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 1: and had a fabulous year. Coach on the scouting side 205 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 1: of things, I'm always intrigued by what you see going 206 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 1: through the recruiting process, and you can look at some 207 00:09:56,720 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 1: five star guys out in this field, but you mentioned 208 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 1: Quentin and Josh Jacobs another one that you guys found 209 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:04,440 Speaker 1: it wasn't recruited by everybody in the nation. If you're 210 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:06,439 Speaker 1: looking for those core values that you're looking for in 211 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 1: a player, what are they. Well, we sort of defined 212 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:11,679 Speaker 1: for every position, you know, what we're looking for from 213 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:18,680 Speaker 1: a critical factor standpoint. But uh, character, ability to communicate, intelligence, size, 214 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 1: and speed, um and you know, sometimes guys meet our 215 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 1: criteria and they really I mean we kind of go 216 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 1: about it like the draft, So it doesn't matter really 217 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:30,960 Speaker 1: how many stars they get or what everybody else thinks 218 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:33,960 Speaker 1: of them. You know, this is recruiting as an inexact science. 219 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:36,440 Speaker 1: The NFL draft is a bit of an inexact science. 220 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:39,839 Speaker 1: Uh So we've been fortunate to be able to see 221 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 1: some guys and find some guys that turned out to 222 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:44,680 Speaker 1: be really good players that maybe got overlooked. When you 223 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 1: look at Quinnin and Jonah Williams and practices, how did 224 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:51,080 Speaker 1: they make each other better? Well, I think that's the 225 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:52,839 Speaker 1: number one thing if you talk to our players that 226 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 1: play in the league that they would tell you that 227 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:59,439 Speaker 1: the fact that our players get challenged every day by 228 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:02,719 Speaker 1: the guy that practice against. You know, Jonathan Aden will 229 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 1: say my facts against Cam Robinson every day for three years, 230 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:08,079 Speaker 1: and Martin Humphrey you'll say, I had to cover a 231 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:11,200 Speaker 1: Marii Cooper every day for three years and because they 232 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:15,960 Speaker 1: were challenging practice that really helped them improve as players. Uh. 233 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 1: And I think those two guys would probably say very 234 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:21,440 Speaker 1: much the same coach, And you're gonna miss a lot 235 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:24,079 Speaker 1: of the talent that these guys present, but from from 236 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:26,960 Speaker 1: a leadership standpoint, But who's gonna be difficult for you 237 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:29,199 Speaker 1: to replace in this group of guys we have out 238 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:32,440 Speaker 1: here right now? Well, I mean there's quite a few 239 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 1: guys in this group that would be hard to single 240 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:37,200 Speaker 1: out somebody who didn't set a good example, who wasn't 241 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:40,720 Speaker 1: someone who the other players could emulate that you couldn't 242 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 1: disapoint to and say, just do it like that guy doesn't. Um, 243 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:47,319 Speaker 1: It would almost be unfair to a lot of these 244 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 1: guys to single one guy out because this was a 245 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:53,680 Speaker 1: really special group. Nick. When it comes to Josh Jacobs, 246 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 1: what would you tell the NFL about his work ethic 247 00:11:56,640 --> 00:12:00,679 Speaker 1: and his versatility in particular? Well, they're not gonna find 248 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 1: anybody that's gonna work any harder, uh to try to 249 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 1: be the best player that he can be. And we're 250 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:07,839 Speaker 1: talking about a guy that's blue collar Now, he'll run 251 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 1: the ball, he'll catch passes, he'll play receiver, he'll run 252 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 1: speed sweeps, um, then he'll turn around and run down 253 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 1: on a kickoff. And never, never, never take himself out 254 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:18,560 Speaker 1: of a special team. I mean he was on three 255 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:20,439 Speaker 1: core special teams for us, and if we were a 256 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 1: head fifty six and nothing, he never asked to come out. 257 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 1: So he's that kind of competitive character type of guy. 258 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 1: He's going to do the best he can for his team. 259 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 1: But from a running back standpoint, you know, the guy 260 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:35,439 Speaker 1: can carry it inside, he can carry it outside. He's 261 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:38,319 Speaker 1: very quick, he's got power, uh, he can run behind 262 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 1: his pads, and he's an extremely good receiver, and he's 263 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 1: very difficult to cover as a third down back. So 264 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:45,199 Speaker 1: this guy is pretty complete. I'm a big fan of 265 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 1: Josh Jakins, what he brings to the table. Coach we 266 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 1: saw you with with Coach Belichick. You guys go back forever. 267 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:52,400 Speaker 1: Get a chance to visit with an old friend like that. 268 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 1: We were just curious talking with somebody's what was that conversation? 269 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:57,360 Speaker 1: What was going on that? Well, there was a lot 270 00:12:57,400 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 1: of conversation there. You know, we're old friends, so we 271 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 1: have lots of stories to tell and you know, things 272 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:05,560 Speaker 1: that we both learned from that we messed up in 273 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 1: the past, even when we were together. Uh. And you know, 274 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:11,840 Speaker 1: we talked personally about our families. We talked about I 275 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 1: was really close with his dad, UM, and you know, 276 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:20,959 Speaker 1: we talked football song and obviously it's important to UM 277 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 1: get a good evaluation on players, so we talked about 278 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 1: a lot of players as well. I'd like to sit 279 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 1: on that conversation. The best coach in the history of 280 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:30,440 Speaker 1: college football talking to the best coach in the history 281 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 1: of the NFL. Coach, thanks so much for your time. 282 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:35,559 Speaker 1: We appreciate it. Thank you. Get a chance here with 283 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:38,560 Speaker 1: Kim to to welcome quinnin to the set. Quinn, a 284 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 1: nice easy day for you today. We went into decision 285 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:43,040 Speaker 1: today to to stand on what you did to combine 286 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:46,720 Speaker 1: j Um. I had just got a finger. I had 287 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:48,559 Speaker 1: missed my finger out during the season. I had missed 288 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 1: on Ligam mills in it, and so I didn't want 289 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:53,199 Speaker 1: to Uh. I just got it fixed at right out 290 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:54,720 Speaker 1: of to come in and I didn't want to injure 291 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:57,440 Speaker 1: it anymore. And things like that by getting my stands 292 00:13:57,480 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 1: too much and putting a lot of pressure on hitting 293 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:01,440 Speaker 1: things and different things like that. So I'm trying to 294 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:03,960 Speaker 1: get ready for O. T A. S and recommending him 295 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 1: and things like that after the draft. So, UM, I 296 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:08,200 Speaker 1: feel like I did a lot of things impressive things 297 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:11,559 Speaker 1: that to combine and UH solidified myself in my position 298 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:13,440 Speaker 1: on the things that I did on the field, and 299 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:16,200 Speaker 1: I bagged up my performance at to combine with my 300 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:19,240 Speaker 1: performance on the field. So let's be honest, you were 301 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 1: outstanding at the combine and you don't need to add 302 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 1: to that. When you look at this draft, it's a 303 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 1: great draft for the defense, for the D line. Do 304 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 1: you think you're the best player in this draft? Um, 305 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:30,680 Speaker 1: it's a lot of great guys and its defensive line 306 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 1: group like UM Christian Wilkinson, Deshel Lawrence and all of 307 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 1: a lot of guys who got great performers. But I 308 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 1: feel like I have a lot of stuff that's better 309 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 1: those guys, a lot of attribute that's good better than 310 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 1: those guys in my i Q level is how I 311 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 1: don't know guys. So I feel like I'm one of 312 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 1: the best UH defensive tackle in this group. I thought 313 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 1: the most dominated player on tape that I watched this 314 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 1: entire section each and every game you brought it. Now, 315 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 1: the question that's gonna come up is, I know there's 316 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 1: a lot of talent here in Alabama, but this was 317 00:14:56,720 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 1: the year where you took off. What's your answer to 318 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 1: teams when they ask you about your previous years in 319 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 1: the lack of production. Um, I just had the bag 320 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 1: up guys who was better, Guys who was in the 321 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 1: NFL right now, first round guys, And I just had 322 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 1: to play my part man playing here in Alabama. You've 323 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:12,880 Speaker 1: got a lot of great guys, you got a lot 324 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:16,479 Speaker 1: of NFL potential guys, a lot of guys who, um 325 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 1: are great at what they do, and you just got 326 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 1: to play a role. And when's your opportunity to come 327 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 1: up with your decision to make the best of the opportunity. 328 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:25,600 Speaker 1: So this year, I knew the run pain was leaving, 329 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 1: and I knew that both d ns was coming back, 330 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 1: so and I would play d N. At the time, 331 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 1: I wanted to get on the field, So I made 332 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 1: that transition to gain the weight, Um almost I think 333 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 1: forty forty five pounds. I went from like to seventy 334 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 1: to like three something, uh something like in that range, 335 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 1: but gained the weight and play learn the position. Um, 336 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 1: just learned how to do the different techniques like um 337 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 1: double team sitting and learn the different things in the 338 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 1: inside and make the best of my opportunity. So how 339 00:15:57,080 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 1: did you gain that amount of weight and keep your 340 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:02,960 Speaker 1: explode sifness and quickness, Um, Coach Cockering, then give his 341 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:05,880 Speaker 1: aimy man, like my nutrition is here, Miss Amy Brad. 342 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 1: Right after I got done talking to Coach Saving about 343 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:10,480 Speaker 1: making that decision, I had went to Coach cocher and 344 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 1: first because he got and he know I wanted to 345 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:15,120 Speaker 1: play very well. He know him a good player and 346 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 1: he's seen me developed since I came in. And I 347 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 1: told him my decision was I wanted to move the 348 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 1: defensive even the tackle and those guard and he was like, 349 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:24,600 Speaker 1: we can do it like you just gotta be discipline. 350 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 1: You gotta work at it and it's on you. And 351 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 1: then I was like, I'm gonna do it like I'm displing. 352 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 1: I wanted to play this show. So then I went 353 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 1: to talk to miss Amy. Because you can't gain for 354 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 1: the pounds of muscles, so I had to make sure 355 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:36,880 Speaker 1: I eat right, make sure I do a lot of 356 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 1: things in my diet wise so I can gain good 357 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 1: facts and get stay splos and things like that. So 358 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 1: now we have a bunch of general managers here, a 359 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 1: bunch of teams. I know you had a chance with 360 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 1: reported that you met with the with the Giants. You 361 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 1: have any other meetings set up a lot of times 362 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 1: they surround these pro days. You're gonna be with any 363 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 1: other teams? Yeah, me with a few teams. Uh here 364 00:16:54,120 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 1: here today. Uh, everybody's gonna find Yeah, I'll need a 365 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 1: few thoughts to you, but I really don't. I really 366 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:04,359 Speaker 1: don't know exactly with teams right now, but I just 367 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:06,879 Speaker 1: know I will find out after the protate itself. But 368 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:08,639 Speaker 1: I know I'm gonna meet with a few talk teams, 369 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 1: and I'm happy to meet with him. Like, man, I 370 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 1: love talking about football a little talking about life, and 371 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:15,720 Speaker 1: I'm just really excited to start my journey off in 372 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:18,359 Speaker 1: the NFL. Man, So like C J. Mosen here today 373 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:20,440 Speaker 1: and I just man, I just I just got too 374 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:24,680 Speaker 1: excited because I'm like, man, I played, I got your Yeah, 375 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:28,120 Speaker 1: I've seen this count trade though, So that's just man, 376 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:30,359 Speaker 1: Like I got to see that more on my Uthman team. Man, 377 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:32,119 Speaker 1: he want of the best players on my other teams. 378 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:34,280 Speaker 1: That's to see. I'm playing. I'm going to follow in 379 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:36,720 Speaker 1: the same shoes leaving Alabama in the in the draft 380 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:40,159 Speaker 1: from Alabama and may potentially go play with him. So 381 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:42,199 Speaker 1: it's like it's so cool, like just the whole process 382 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna joining every bit of But I know 383 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:47,480 Speaker 1: I got a bigger picture ahead, um with recommended camp 384 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 1: and getting drafted and just starting my journey off in 385 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 1: the NFL, so winning. Before you joined us, we had 386 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:56,560 Speaker 1: a touching piece by you, um, an interview with you 387 00:17:56,640 --> 00:17:59,479 Speaker 1: that was so well done, and our colleague Chase Goodbred 388 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 1: also did a fantastic piece. A lot of it centered 389 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:05,480 Speaker 1: on your losing your mother when you were twelve. What 390 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 1: kind of impact has that left on your life? It 391 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:11,359 Speaker 1: made a huge impact, not not bad, not in the 392 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 1: negative way, but in a positive way. Like I know, 393 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:15,119 Speaker 1: my mom taught me a lot of stuff, not the 394 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:19,160 Speaker 1: fundamental stuff, a lot of things. I respect, discipline, effort 395 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:21,199 Speaker 1: to do things, and she was an educator, So school 396 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:23,320 Speaker 1: came first and that never left me. The thing she 397 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 1: left me where I used every day every day like 398 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:28,560 Speaker 1: every day life. Me being a celebrative of me being 399 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:31,520 Speaker 1: a NFL prospect. I'm still going to school to get 400 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:34,399 Speaker 1: my degree because it just in me, like is it 401 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:37,960 Speaker 1: because my whole family educated? Things like that and um 402 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 1: just looking at like people may think, man, you're twenty one, 403 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:42,080 Speaker 1: you can make me and me And I was like, 404 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:44,520 Speaker 1: that't really don't matter to me. I don't want to 405 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:46,200 Speaker 1: be the best person I can be on the field 406 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:48,639 Speaker 1: and all the feel and be the best person, uh 407 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 1: for my family and just say the good exam for 408 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 1: the kids back in Birmingham. Who who had this who 409 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 1: like I know people who had this process. Uh, it 410 00:18:57,080 --> 00:18:59,639 Speaker 1: could have been in this depot but then had nobody 411 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:03,840 Speaker 1: to delete him in the right way. For sure. For sure, Yes, 412 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 1: I for sure believe she leaves me now, like because 413 00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:09,920 Speaker 1: just everything everything she do, everything I do, I think 414 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:12,480 Speaker 1: about what my mom's gonna think about if I do this, 415 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:15,879 Speaker 1: like even in even in like off the field in 416 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 1: the dark, like I should be like what I need 417 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 1: to do? You know what I'm saying to be the 418 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 1: best person I can be. You know she's proud. Oh 419 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:24,560 Speaker 1: for sure, No, for sure I see it in my grandma. 420 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:28,200 Speaker 1: Like my grandma, she my grandma like she had educator first. 421 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:31,360 Speaker 1: So when she found out leaving school earlier, she took 422 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 1: it hard because he know the process and stuff like 423 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:35,840 Speaker 1: that about leaving school early and I'm gonna got a degree. 424 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:40,399 Speaker 1: But I was like, man, like that's crazy. I get 425 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:42,159 Speaker 1: a chance to even go to the NFL. So it 426 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 1: was dope, Well, I'm gonna let you go be with 427 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:46,200 Speaker 1: your teammates and watch teammates to go through the workout today. 428 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:48,680 Speaker 1: The last thing before we let you leave. Miss Amy 429 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 1: helped you put on forty? Could she help me take 430 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:53,880 Speaker 1: off five? She probably? Still, I don't see. We gotta play. 431 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 1: We had to play in the Dante Brown he had 432 00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:58,480 Speaker 1: a little weight, probably, and she man, she'd be on you, 433 00:19:58,680 --> 00:20:02,240 Speaker 1: like on you make your favorite food on your way 434 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:06,720 Speaker 1: out the door is what? Uh? Probably I try in 435 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:09,360 Speaker 1: the l A So I had a lot of different 436 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 1: healthy good things. So it'll be lampshop. All right, we'll 437 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:19,919 Speaker 1: take it, alright, thank you, all right. So it's an 438 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:22,720 Speaker 1: interesting insight getting from both saving. I love Quinny Williams. 439 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:24,119 Speaker 1: I just like I want to go in a hug, 440 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 1: you know, like he just he smiles, he is he 441 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 1: is a happy dude, and I love um. There was 442 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:32,880 Speaker 1: a great back to Campus series on NFL dot Com 443 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:36,440 Speaker 1: where Chase Goodbread wrote a really good piece on Quinny 444 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 1: and Williams talking about dealing with the loss of his 445 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:40,919 Speaker 1: mother to cancer when he was twelve years old and 446 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 1: his brother, Quincy's older brother, talked about how you know 447 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:47,720 Speaker 1: he's a guy in Quinnin who will hold the door 448 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:51,040 Speaker 1: open for a lady, helped carry your bag of groceries. 449 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:53,239 Speaker 1: If you got a heavy box, he'll help you move it. 450 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 1: And he gets all that from his mom. That's just 451 00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:59,199 Speaker 1: the way he is. And then though, he flips the 452 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:03,040 Speaker 1: switch and he becomes the monster that we saw this year. 453 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:07,520 Speaker 1: And then ultimately he's the right kind of football player 454 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:11,120 Speaker 1: that every team wants, meaning you want the gentleman that 455 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:14,239 Speaker 1: is the perfect guy away from the field, but when 456 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:16,960 Speaker 1: he steps in between the lines, he flips the switch 457 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 1: and he becomes a nasty, uh disruptive player, a guy 458 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 1: that is a force on the field. That is what 459 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:27,879 Speaker 1: Quinnin Williams is. He is a nice, fun loving guy. 460 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 1: Like everything about him, he sounds like he's his country 461 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:33,439 Speaker 1: is corn. He's a lovable, big old teddy bear. But 462 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:36,640 Speaker 1: then there's something about when he puts on the Alabama 463 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 1: uniform and he straps it up, he is a different guy. 464 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:43,000 Speaker 1: He is a tempo setter, a difference maker. Um, he's 465 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 1: a dominant player, and in fact, I think you can 466 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:48,159 Speaker 1: make the case that maybe he's the best player in 467 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:52,040 Speaker 1: the draft based on how he has dominated the game 468 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:56,440 Speaker 1: his final season. Um. But I think the big thing 469 00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:58,359 Speaker 1: that we have to look at when it comes to 470 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 1: him when you picking that high up how what kind 471 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:06,480 Speaker 1: of impact will he make overall in the passing game? Uh? 472 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:10,240 Speaker 1: Talk about Marcio Darius, a former Alabama Crimson Todd player, 473 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:14,440 Speaker 1: went to overall. Um one of just four defensive lineman 474 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:17,120 Speaker 1: since OH three that have been drafted in the top three. Right, 475 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 1: and so when when when you think about that? And 476 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:22,159 Speaker 1: what kind of impact did Darius make? He hasn't been 477 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 1: a two time pro bowler, But typically if you're selected 478 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:25,920 Speaker 1: in the top five, you have to be able to 479 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:28,880 Speaker 1: impact the passing game. And can Williams give you enough 480 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:31,200 Speaker 1: bang for the buck when he comes to sacking the 481 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 1: quarterback and disrupting the passing game to make it worthy 482 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:36,439 Speaker 1: of being a top two or three pick. Uh? The 483 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:38,879 Speaker 1: two running backs probably the top two running backs in 484 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:40,639 Speaker 1: the draft right now, depending on who you asked. I 485 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:43,240 Speaker 1: think they are for you in my correct two Josh 486 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 1: Jacobs and Damien Harris. We did not see Josh Jacobs 487 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 1: at the combine, was dealing with a little bit of 488 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 1: an injury. He comes back runs his forty four point 489 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 1: six Oh. I believe was the official time that enough 490 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 1: for you to be a first round pick. He's a 491 00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:58,560 Speaker 1: tricky one, and he's a tricky one for me because 492 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 1: he's kind of been annoyed up there, and I believe 493 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:05,520 Speaker 1: he benefits from the Alvin Kamara bounce. Alvicamara was a 494 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:08,360 Speaker 1: guy that should have been a first round pick, wasn't 495 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:10,400 Speaker 1: picked in the first round, goes in the third round 496 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 1: for whatever reason. He now I'll plays that status. So 497 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:17,400 Speaker 1: everyone is looking for the next guy that has had success. 498 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 1: That's flash, but the production didn't necessarily match the talent 499 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 1: when you looked at the tape. Kamara was different though, 500 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 1: because I think the production was did you just had 501 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:29,399 Speaker 1: to look the question that you had about him. He 502 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:31,680 Speaker 1: never touched him more than eighteen times in a game. 503 00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 1: When I look at Josh Jacobs, Josh Jacobs has never 504 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:37,160 Speaker 1: been over a thousand yards, So we've kind of given 505 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 1: him the benefit of the doubt that he is going 506 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:41,960 Speaker 1: to be this star at the next level. He's a 507 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:44,760 Speaker 1: first round pick. What happens when you start loading up 508 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 1: the touches, of what happens when we start loading to touches, 509 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:51,359 Speaker 1: and what happens when you're the man, when everyone knows 510 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 1: that you're the RB one, we're gonna hand it to you, 511 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 1: We're gonna drop an extra defending in the box. Can 512 00:23:56,600 --> 00:24:00,440 Speaker 1: you survive and thrive in that environment? And I think 513 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:02,600 Speaker 1: there's a case to be made where I don't know 514 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 1: because the track record isn't there's not enough history to 515 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:08,440 Speaker 1: say that he can do it, and so I'm a 516 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:10,240 Speaker 1: little worried. I think the talent when I talked to 517 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:12,320 Speaker 1: running back coaches and say, look, man, the guy can 518 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:15,359 Speaker 1: do it all. You heard Nick saban strong endorsement. He 519 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:17,160 Speaker 1: talked about the guy being able to be a three 520 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 1: down back. He's tough, he's physical, he's a worker, he 521 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:22,480 Speaker 1: would get on special teams, should do anything, everything right. 522 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:24,760 Speaker 1: So I like to work ethic, but at some point 523 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:26,920 Speaker 1: you just want to make sure that the production matches 524 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:29,960 Speaker 1: up and meets where he should be drafted. To put 525 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:35,040 Speaker 1: that into perspective, two and fifty two career touches, that's 526 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:37,359 Speaker 1: in the run game and in the past game for 527 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:40,520 Speaker 1: Josh Jacobs and by comparison, we'll talk another guy in 528 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:43,240 Speaker 1: this class, David Montgomery out of Ohio state, excuse me, 529 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:47,320 Speaker 1: out of Iowa state. Two and fifty seven carries this year. 530 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:50,440 Speaker 1: So look, you know, there's just the sample size is 531 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:52,240 Speaker 1: a little bit different when you go to Damien Harris. 532 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 1: The thing that he just keeps popping into my mind 533 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 1: here go, I think about the program. I think Damian Harris, 534 00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:00,879 Speaker 1: you know, or you have Josh, you have Jacobs, you know, 535 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:05,360 Speaker 1: Darnell Jefferson tailback, and then you have Damien Harris, Ray 536 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:07,840 Speaker 1: Griffin starting tail back, you know what I mean. Like, 537 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 1: he's the guy who started. He tried him out there 538 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:11,680 Speaker 1: when they need the tough yards, right, the guy who 539 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:13,560 Speaker 1: can get it in between the tackles. The funny thing 540 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 1: to me is he's he's the exact same measurable guy 541 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:21,520 Speaker 1: to Alvin Kamara, but they're different runners, different runners, not 542 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:24,679 Speaker 1: as as explosive, not as dynamic with the ball in 543 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:27,440 Speaker 1: his hands. But he's just um what I call kind 544 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:30,840 Speaker 1: of like a blue collar tough guy when he comes 545 00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:33,200 Speaker 1: to running the ball. The thing that is funny is 546 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 1: how he's kind of been cast to the side heading 547 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:37,560 Speaker 1: into the season. He was the guy that was universally 548 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:40,280 Speaker 1: celebrated as the number one running back in the class. 549 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:42,320 Speaker 1: I don't know what he did, like maybe because he 550 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:45,480 Speaker 1: lost his job in some way at Alabama, but we've 551 00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:47,160 Speaker 1: kind of thrown him to the heap and we really 552 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:50,520 Speaker 1: haven't had a discussion about what he is. But he's 553 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:53,840 Speaker 1: been very, very productive, and so he is upstaged because 554 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:57,239 Speaker 1: Josh Jacobs finished the year with a bang and I 555 00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 1: think it is almost like a fight where you kind 556 00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:01,480 Speaker 1: of in on the cars because you get the little 557 00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:05,000 Speaker 1: sugar Ray Leonard flury it around and just with Josh 558 00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:06,879 Speaker 1: Jacobs are being able to do. But Damien Harris is 559 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:08,479 Speaker 1: a very very good running back in his own right. 560 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:12,000 Speaker 1: Uh Ray Griffin starting tale back love it Dwain Damien 561 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:15,200 Speaker 1: Harrison quickly on IRV Smith. Um, Look, his dad was 562 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:17,320 Speaker 1: one of my favorite Saints. I've mentioned this a former 563 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:19,359 Speaker 1: first round pick of the New Orleans Saints. Believe it's 564 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:23,040 Speaker 1: back in three um out of Notre Dame, went to 565 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:26,440 Speaker 1: Brother Martin High School in New Orleans. And look, he's 566 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:29,119 Speaker 1: a really good player, right, probably number three tight end. 567 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:33,639 Speaker 1: But does he do enough, really really well? Is he 568 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:37,400 Speaker 1: an elite enough pass catcher or an elite enough pass 569 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 1: or run blocker pass blocker to be a first round pick. 570 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:44,240 Speaker 1: I think so. I think he's elite enough. I think 571 00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:46,280 Speaker 1: he's he's kind of a mix. He's a flex tight 572 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:48,159 Speaker 1: in I do. I believe he blocks well enough to 573 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 1: be able to hold his own on the edges, and 574 00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:55,160 Speaker 1: he has enough athleticism to be a difference maker over 575 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:57,159 Speaker 1: the middle of the field. And what you're looking for 576 00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:59,119 Speaker 1: at the tight end position. Now are guys that can 577 00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:02,680 Speaker 1: create mismatches. Believe he can do that and come from Alabama. 578 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:05,199 Speaker 1: I think he's tough enough. He has been exposed to 579 00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:07,719 Speaker 1: enough of the running game to be a factor when 580 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:10,359 Speaker 1: it comes to blocking. I am fine with Er Smith 581 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:12,640 Speaker 1: being maybe the third titand that comes off the board, 582 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:15,119 Speaker 1: but coming off the board in the first round. Jonah 583 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:18,359 Speaker 1: Williams garter tackle. I'm gonna start him out of tackle. 584 00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:21,560 Speaker 1: I'm gonna give him every opportunity to, you know, like, 585 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:24,800 Speaker 1: because I think now both tackles have to be effective, 586 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:27,399 Speaker 1: but probably he's better suited to play on the right side. 587 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 1: He needs to be a guy that can um kind 588 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:35,719 Speaker 1: of handle. I guess more of the base defensive end. 589 00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:38,080 Speaker 1: The guy that is not as athletic, But what defensive 590 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:39,959 Speaker 1: guys are doing now, they're tricking you and putting their 591 00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:42,040 Speaker 1: best pass pressure on this side so they can work 592 00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:44,760 Speaker 1: against the inferior tackle. But I think he's good enough. 593 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:47,480 Speaker 1: Give him every opportunity to play on the outside if 594 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:50,159 Speaker 1: he fails moving inside to guard, but I think he 595 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:54,000 Speaker 1: can succeed at right tackle in the pros. Lastly, Mac Wilson, 596 00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:56,120 Speaker 1: because we didn't really see anything from Deonte Thompson. Mack 597 00:27:56,160 --> 00:28:00,560 Speaker 1: Wilson interesting guy, right, I mean, probably has more of 598 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:04,199 Speaker 1: the measurables that you would want from a linebacker in 599 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:07,720 Speaker 1: today's NFL, a little bit bigger. Maybe even got this 600 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 1: from an NFL coach. You said, he kind of likes 601 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:13,200 Speaker 1: his speed and strength and explosiveness, maybe even a little 602 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:16,440 Speaker 1: bit more than the two Devons, Devin White and Devin Bush. 603 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:19,080 Speaker 1: But you just don't see the impact that those two 604 00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:22,399 Speaker 1: guys had from mack Wilson, and so you're wondering, like 605 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:24,080 Speaker 1: he kind of likened it to all Right, this is 606 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:26,160 Speaker 1: a guy mack Wilson, who sees a crack coming he's 607 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:28,800 Speaker 1: kind of gonna take where the other two guys will 608 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:33,280 Speaker 1: do something. Yeah, the personality they're they're playing personalities are 609 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:35,919 Speaker 1: a little different. They're a little nasty, look grittier. But 610 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:40,200 Speaker 1: Wilson is an outstanding player against the ball in terms 611 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:42,640 Speaker 1: of in coverage, does a great job with getting his hands. 612 00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:44,840 Speaker 1: He would come down with interceptions, he can drop, he 613 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:48,160 Speaker 1: can float to the ball, all of those things. Just 614 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:52,120 Speaker 1: a different personality though, And so how does that play 615 00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:54,240 Speaker 1: in meeting rooms when you're meeting him for the first time. 616 00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:56,360 Speaker 1: How well does the interview? I think a lot of 617 00:28:56,400 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 1: that will determine where you drafted, because the play speaks 618 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:01,880 Speaker 1: for himself. He's a very, very good player. I call 619 00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:04,200 Speaker 1: him a B plus player in my estimation, he's a 620 00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:07,720 Speaker 1: borderline first round player. The personality I think can push 621 00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:10,640 Speaker 1: him over the top on either way. Either he's a 622 00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:12,960 Speaker 1: push him into the first round or drop him out 623 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:15,280 Speaker 1: of the first round, based on how he interacts with 624 00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:17,760 Speaker 1: the coaches on the on the interviews. We talked about 625 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:20,360 Speaker 1: Drew Lock for about four hours today on NFL Network. 626 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:22,880 Speaker 1: Uh yeah, we did. We talked about him a little 627 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:24,720 Speaker 1: two and a half hour lead up to it. Just 628 00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:27,440 Speaker 1: give about four minutes and how about that four minutes 629 00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:29,640 Speaker 1: it Drew Lock. I'm gonna put it on the clock 630 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:32,920 Speaker 1: here we go. You gave him a b Bucky laid 631 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:34,680 Speaker 1: out for me. Yeah, I give a game a be 632 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:38,320 Speaker 1: on his pro day performance because he has some some misthrows. 633 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:41,680 Speaker 1: But regardless of what he did today, I think he's 634 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:46,720 Speaker 1: a very intriguing prospect because, man, he has outstanding physical tools. 635 00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:49,200 Speaker 1: I mean, he's the height that you want. He has 636 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:53,360 Speaker 1: exceptional arm talent. He's a very very good athlete. He 637 00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:55,680 Speaker 1: can make big time throws down the field. He can 638 00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:59,520 Speaker 1: make him off platform, inside and outside the pocket. Uh. 639 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:03,240 Speaker 1: The thing that troubles you about Drew Lock is inconsistency. 640 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:06,040 Speaker 1: You look at the low completion percentage, he is under 641 00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:09,880 Speaker 1: sixty forrest career. You don't like that. Um, he does 642 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:13,080 Speaker 1: miss um at times on that intermediate area and he 643 00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:15,800 Speaker 1: wasn't exposed to a lot of intermediate throws. And then 644 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:18,000 Speaker 1: when you watch the protay workout, he kind of struggled 645 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:20,520 Speaker 1: a little bit in that that ten the eighteen yard 646 00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:24,600 Speaker 1: area UM with those throws. But saying all of that, 647 00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:27,440 Speaker 1: if I am a team looking for your franchise quarterback, 648 00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:29,000 Speaker 1: and if I have the luxury of having a guy 649 00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:32,320 Speaker 1: already in the building, Drew Lock is the first guy 650 00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:34,160 Speaker 1: that I would be willing to sign up and take 651 00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:37,960 Speaker 1: because his talent reminds me a lot of Matthew Stafford. 652 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:40,520 Speaker 1: And I think you get him right now where you 653 00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:43,000 Speaker 1: don't have to rush from onto the field. I believe 654 00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:45,120 Speaker 1: you can teach him how to play the right way. 655 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:47,840 Speaker 1: Just watching that how you progressed in the Senior Bowl 656 00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:50,960 Speaker 1: from Monday to Saturday. You saw a guy who kind 657 00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:53,480 Speaker 1: of understood when John Gruten was coming at him hard. 658 00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:58,000 Speaker 1: He responded to it, played well. Practice will like that. 659 00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:01,120 Speaker 1: So that's important. I think it's important point there. Yeah, 660 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:03,640 Speaker 1: So when you think about the development potential that he has, 661 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:06,720 Speaker 1: if you're able to read shirt and four years or 662 00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:09,200 Speaker 1: even more, I think you can have an opportunity to 663 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:12,360 Speaker 1: really uncover a really, really talented player that becomes a 664 00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:15,040 Speaker 1: long term starter for a long time. I'm with you there, 665 00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:17,440 Speaker 1: and you know, we talked about range. We talked about 666 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:20,040 Speaker 1: that a lot. Ceiling and Flora on on the path 667 00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:23,080 Speaker 1: of the Draft every Monday through Friday, six pm Eastern time, 668 00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:27,120 Speaker 1: right here in the NFL Network. Do you see him 669 00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:33,680 Speaker 1: getting past the Redskins at fifteen? Depending on what the 670 00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:38,000 Speaker 1: Ridskins are thinking and how they love their guys currently 671 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,080 Speaker 1: on their roster. But I think the range for Drew 672 00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:42,240 Speaker 1: Lock can be We talked about tim, but I'm gonna 673 00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:44,720 Speaker 1: drop it down a little bit. Fifteen to twenty eight 674 00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:48,760 Speaker 1: from the Washington Redskins to the l A Chargers. They're 675 00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:51,880 Speaker 1: handful of teams in between that can make moves. The 676 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:55,040 Speaker 1: red Skins and fifteen the Oakland Raiders in the twenties. 677 00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:57,200 Speaker 1: Certain you can make a move. Uh. You talk about 678 00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:00,360 Speaker 1: the old guard when it comes to the Pittsburgh Steelers. Uh. 679 00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:02,720 Speaker 1: You talked about the New York Giants having another bye today, Apple, 680 00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:08,440 Speaker 1: I mean like those teams, uh, the Chargers having to mix. 681 00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:11,479 Speaker 1: So I think he could be in play, uh at 682 00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:13,320 Speaker 1: the bottom of the first round by a team that 683 00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:15,240 Speaker 1: has a veteran quarterback that is a year or two 684 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:18,480 Speaker 1: away from kind of walking off into the sunset. Drew 685 00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:22,280 Speaker 1: Brees would be a great guy to get developed and 686 00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:24,640 Speaker 1: then see how he plays out. Lastly, on this one, 687 00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:27,360 Speaker 1: I thought it was interesting you compared him to Matthew Stafford. 688 00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:30,800 Speaker 1: Steve White told us that Drew Lock mentioned the Lions 689 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:33,480 Speaker 1: are a team he's meeting with. Oh that doesn't surprise me. 690 00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:39,000 Speaker 1: Here is why it doesn't surprise The det were Lions 691 00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:44,640 Speaker 1: may be ready to move on from Matthew Stafford only 692 00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:48,080 Speaker 1: because Matt Patricia wants to play a certain way. And 693 00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:51,240 Speaker 1: if you think about the way the Patriots played traditionally, 694 00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:54,400 Speaker 1: Tom Brady is one of those guys who was okay 695 00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:57,240 Speaker 1: doing different things. He's older than now. Though. He will 696 00:32:57,320 --> 00:32:59,040 Speaker 1: run the ball, he doesn't mind handing the ball off 697 00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:01,560 Speaker 1: to the running back to twin twenty five times. He'll 698 00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:03,120 Speaker 1: throw when he has to throw. He doesn't have to 699 00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:05,200 Speaker 1: put it all on himself. I don't know if we 700 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:07,520 Speaker 1: can get Matthew Stafford to do that, because Matthew Stafford 701 00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:10,160 Speaker 1: has only played one way for his entire career in Detroit. 702 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:13,840 Speaker 1: He's always headed all on him Now, He's never really 703 00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:16,200 Speaker 1: had the luxury of having a strong running game behind him. 704 00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:18,240 Speaker 1: But when you look at what the Detroit lines are doing, 705 00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:20,320 Speaker 1: the Detroit lines are trying to play a little more 706 00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:23,200 Speaker 1: old school traditional ball. They're gonna get Darryl Bella to 707 00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:26,280 Speaker 1: be their new offensive coordinator. Matt Patricia has talked about 708 00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:29,040 Speaker 1: being able to run to football. Defensive coach wants to 709 00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:31,720 Speaker 1: run it, play good defense, keep the scoring now control 710 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:35,480 Speaker 1: of the game with a run. Will Matthew Stafford sign 711 00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:39,280 Speaker 1: up to do that. So if you can't get Matthew 712 00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:41,840 Speaker 1: Stafford to do that, how about we go to the 713 00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:45,640 Speaker 1: lab and make up Matthew Stafford clone that has similar 714 00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:49,640 Speaker 1: traits and to teach him how to play the game 715 00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:52,640 Speaker 1: to quote unquote right way. I love Stafford. Um. I 716 00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:55,000 Speaker 1: mentioned to you today on our Pro Day special. Stafford 717 00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:59,200 Speaker 1: is still one of the guys that the Mannings talk 718 00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:01,680 Speaker 1: about as the most impressive that has run through the 719 00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:05,200 Speaker 1: Man superintend all summer. But I mentioned I talked to 720 00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:08,319 Speaker 1: Archie this morning and said he was in love with 721 00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:10,399 Speaker 1: the way the ball came out of Drew Lock's hand. 722 00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:13,200 Speaker 1: He didn't make the comparison, but I'm just I'm bringing 723 00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:16,040 Speaker 1: that up because he was. He was really impressed by him. 724 00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:18,839 Speaker 1: So Matthew Stafford's the top ten quarterback in the league 725 00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:20,840 Speaker 1: right now? My right or wrong? Well, I think you 726 00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:22,960 Speaker 1: can make the argument. I think like some people will 727 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:24,719 Speaker 1: say the s he is. Some people will say, no, 728 00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:28,840 Speaker 1: he's not. Last year, I was willing to say he 729 00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:31,040 Speaker 1: was the m v P until it kind of wheels 730 00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:33,960 Speaker 1: fell off his last year. Uh, he got hurt, Remember 731 00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:35,719 Speaker 1: he got hurt. I think that the pink or the 732 00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:38,279 Speaker 1: hands something. Yeah, because even then they finished tennis six. 733 00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:45,160 Speaker 1: Jim Colebells last year, Yeah, had a winning record, and 734 00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:48,359 Speaker 1: so he was playing really well until he got hurt. 735 00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:52,279 Speaker 1: And so I mean, you're right, Matthew Stafford was number one. 736 00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:54,359 Speaker 1: They were nine A seven, So Matthew Stafford was number 737 00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:58,799 Speaker 1: one overall. Yeah, right, right, right, all right, all right, look, 738 00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:01,040 Speaker 1: so that's interesting. I think that member Broncos are interesting 739 00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:03,320 Speaker 1: at number ten. If John Elway falls in love with 740 00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:05,920 Speaker 1: a big arm um. We've seen that happen in the 741 00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:08,839 Speaker 1: past with Paxson Lynch. Right. We don't want to make 742 00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:11,000 Speaker 1: that mistake again. And I'm not saying that by any 743 00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:14,680 Speaker 1: means that that Drew Lockers, Packson and um. But it's 744 00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:16,759 Speaker 1: it's fun. It's fun to play that game. And we 745 00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:19,400 Speaker 1: shall see. We'll continue talking about where Drew Luck fits 746 00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:23,600 Speaker 1: as we continue again Path to the Draft every weekday, 747 00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:27,200 Speaker 1: six pm Eastern Time, And of course, all of your 748 00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:31,600 Speaker 1: MTS content NFL dot com, slash MTS video or YouTube 749 00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:35,120 Speaker 1: dot com, slash NFL, Apple podcasts or your favorite podcast 750 00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:38,719 Speaker 1: app subscribe, download right a review and catch TJ back 751 00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:41,440 Speaker 1: in the saddle next week. You're good, buck, I am 752 00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:43,279 Speaker 1: good to go, all right, let's get some sleep.