1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,480 Speaker 1: My boyfriend disappears every weekend and he won't tell me. 2 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:04,240 Speaker 2: Why should I stay or should I go? 3 00:00:04,640 --> 00:00:07,440 Speaker 1: This is OKOP where we read the craziest true stories 4 00:00:07,480 --> 00:00:10,920 Speaker 1: on Earth. I'm John and Sam. Should op stay or 5 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:11,559 Speaker 1: should they go? 6 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:15,120 Speaker 2: I mean if every weekend they disappear every weekend, that's 7 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:17,600 Speaker 2: date night, Saturday. Saturday night is date night. 8 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 1: Why can't I leave and just not tell you my 9 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:21,000 Speaker 1: whereabouts every weekend of the year? 10 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:23,599 Speaker 2: Why not? That's why they have find my iPhone so 11 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 2: you can track your significant others and ensure that they're 12 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 2: loyal to you. 13 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:30,480 Speaker 1: Maybe you just need like like all the GPS trackers. 14 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 2: Known to me. Maybe what you need GPS trackers plus 15 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 2: live Twitch streaming of your partner that you know what 16 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 2: great solution. Put one of those little like like head 17 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 2: things on with a GoPro all you can always see 18 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:42,839 Speaker 2: what they're done. 19 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:45,840 Speaker 1: That should do it? But Sam, there's only one way 20 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 1: to find out spill that d so throw RABF disappear, says. 21 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 1: My boyfriend twenty seven male and I twenty four female 22 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 1: have been together for three years. We don't live together, 23 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 1: but are close enough to spend a lot of time together. However, 24 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:05,039 Speaker 1: it is very rare for us to spend a whole 25 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 1: day together. When we have, it's been a weekday where 26 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 1: our schedules have just happened to line up. 27 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:12,679 Speaker 2: Wait, you've been dating for three years and you haven't 28 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:13,840 Speaker 2: spent a whole day. 29 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 1: I'm so busy. You're they're so busy, Sam. 30 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:22,480 Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, busy people doing busy things come on 31 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 2: like cheating on each other. 32 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 1: He works as a research assistant while getting his PhD. 33 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 1: Every single weekend for the three years we've been together. 34 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 1: He insists he has to work every weekend three years. 35 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:42,120 Speaker 2: It has to work. I mean, I guess he has 36 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 2: a PhD. That's probably hard. 37 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 1: Not harder than some other things. He has another PhD. Yep, 38 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 1: pretty huge doctor. I realize how stupid I've been now, 39 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 1: but foolishly I trusted him. I trusted that he had 40 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 1: work every single weekend for three years. 41 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:08,639 Speaker 2: That was until today, every even Christmas, every single weekend 42 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 2: if it's on a weekend, I have to work, oh man. Also, like, 43 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 2: if you're cheating, do you not try to give like 44 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 2: one weekend just to wait? Red flag alive flag red 45 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 2: flag for sure? Like to the fact that he's gone 46 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 2: every single weekend. I mean like one weekend, two weekends, 47 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 2: maybe three weekends in a row, a little sass. Four weekends. 48 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:34,520 Speaker 2: He definitely has a girl, a girlfriend for sure. Five weekends. 49 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 2: He has a family. If he's gone five weekends in 50 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 2: a row, he has a family, and another state, possibly 51 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:44,800 Speaker 2: another country. Here's the problem saying he's been gone for 52 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:48,639 Speaker 2: over one hundred and sixty weekends. Bro Man has an 53 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 2: empire that he hasn't told you about. 54 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:52,520 Speaker 1: One hundred and sixty six weekend. 55 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 2: His gang is conning around. He has just five family 56 00:02:57,440 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 2: He has five families. 57 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, for sure, Lee, I've been studying for 58 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 1: finals and it's the tough it's it's ever been. So 59 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 1: I've been craving some time with him, just a day 60 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:11,239 Speaker 1: where we could kick back and relax with each other. 61 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:13,960 Speaker 1: You want one whole day to kick back and relax. 62 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 1: You have some fucking gone wown't you? The audacity? 63 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 2: The audacity the whole day twenty four hours unacceptable? What's 64 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:30,680 Speaker 2: sixty times twenty four times twenty four that's four hundred 65 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 2: four thousand, eight hundred. 66 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 1: Minutes, fourteen fourteen forty. 67 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 2: And four hundred and forty minutes. What's one thousand more 68 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 2: times sixty one thousand, twenty five hundred, six hundred eighty 69 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 2: six thousand, four hundred seconds. When you put it like that, 70 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 2: it's a lot, bro, No way, not a chance. Time 71 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 2: is money is time. That is true. That's a lot 72 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 2: of seconds to spend that money on my other families exactly. 73 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 2: Come on. 74 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 1: Of course, he says he can't because he's working, and 75 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 1: I shut up about it. So today I'm getting antsy anyway, 76 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 1: and I'm hoping that we could at least spend the 77 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:19,040 Speaker 1: evening together. I end up texting him asking when he 78 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 1: thinks he'll be back and we can spend the night together. 79 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:24,799 Speaker 1: I've done this plenty of times before, and he always 80 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 1: responds fairly quickly. This time, I'm waiting for a while. 81 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 1: After two hours, I decide to text a work front 82 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:35,279 Speaker 1: of his who's also a research. 83 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 2: Assistant with him. Uh oh, but. 84 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 1: I see you in the comments. If you know it's 85 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:42,720 Speaker 1: about to go down, wouldn't you know? It turns out 86 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 1: they don't even have work today. 87 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 2: That I can't believe he would create a lie and 88 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 2: be so bold that you would never check if he 89 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:57,280 Speaker 2: had work on the weekend. Easy mark for three years, though? 90 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:00,280 Speaker 2: Do you care to him? Bro? Bro. Really get a 91 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 2: nice game. But really, sorry, I don't play that game. 92 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 2: Just the Samy realized. 93 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 1: Sam loves Op's boyfriend. 94 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:08,840 Speaker 3: He's doing. 95 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 2: Sam thinks he's doing a great job. He's not doing 96 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:14,159 Speaker 2: a great well he is. I mean Sam, he's doing 97 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:18,159 Speaker 2: a great job for three years. He's very good at it. 98 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:19,920 Speaker 2: Sam admires him. 99 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 1: Eighty six thousand seconds that that's what we're talking about, right, 100 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 1: I mean, damn near ten thousand hours at this, I 101 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 1: think so, my god. In fact, he the coworker informs 102 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 1: me in that same text that they rarely ever have 103 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:39,279 Speaker 1: work on the weekends. 104 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:44,839 Speaker 2: Rarely ever. So where is he? V Sauce music put that? 105 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 1: So, now I'm sitting here wondering what the f is 106 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:52,360 Speaker 1: going on? I have no idea how to confront him 107 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 1: about this. I mean, this has been going on for 108 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 1: three years. If he's cheating on me, he basically has 109 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:00,359 Speaker 1: a second family. 110 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 2: It's that's what I said, he called it. 111 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 1: But obviously that's where my mind goes, and I have 112 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 1: no clue where else it could be possible. 113 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:14,040 Speaker 2: Maybe he's just volunteering at the homeless shelter. What if? 114 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:18,039 Speaker 2: Or he's volunteering at the animal shelter, which really means 115 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 2: you're putting dogs down. 116 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 1: Often, Yeah, you're putting dogs down. And also like, do 117 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:24,279 Speaker 1: you love dogs that much? 118 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 2: Like, Bro, you're about to You're about to get some 119 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 2: fights right now, are about to call you out? Do 120 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 2: you love dogs? That? Dogs are great? John's cat person 121 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 2: or dog Personohn has a cat? Bro, where's your dog? 122 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 2: I had dogs? I see no dogs. I see no 123 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 2: dogs a cat. That's one dog here, Riley. It still 124 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:55,119 Speaker 2: thinks women like barking. It's okay, it's okay. 125 00:06:55,480 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 1: I we we took care of a bare minimum twenty 126 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 1: dogs growing up. Not an exaggeration, because we fostered, dog fostered. 127 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:07,479 Speaker 1: That's how hard we love dogs. 128 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 2: I love dogs so, I love. 129 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 1: Dogs so much, so hard, Bro, I love my dogs hard. 130 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 2: I really appreciate that that we thank you. I appreciate 131 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 2: it too. I don't want to see picks at some point, 132 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 2: but we can bring those. The picks will come. The 133 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 2: picks will come. 134 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 1: But back to the story, is there any possible explanation 135 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 1: for this besides cheating? How in the world do I 136 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 1: confront him about something he's been doing for three years? 137 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 1: Since he's doing whatever it is he's doing, tomorrow. Do 138 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 1: I just drive over to his place in the morning 139 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 1: and wait and then follow him. Has anyone had anything 140 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 1: like this happened to him before? And we have one 141 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 1: relevant comment before a juicy update, Sonny Go says, I 142 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:57,240 Speaker 1: would just ask him first. Hey, I texted your work 143 00:07:57,240 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 1: friend while I was waiting for you to reply, and 144 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 1: he said, you never work on the weekends, quote unquote. 145 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 1: Even if he's not cheating, he's lying, don't stock him, 146 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 1: don't play games, to which OPI replied, but what's stopping 147 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 1: him from just lying? 148 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 2: Again? 149 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 1: Like, even if I confront him, he could just insist 150 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 1: that he's working or come up with an excuse. The 151 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:19,680 Speaker 1: only proof I have is the text from his coworker. 152 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 1: I feel like that might not be enough to get 153 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 1: him to tell the truth. I don't know, Sam, we 154 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 1: have a juicy update coming up. 155 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, but what should OPI do? Okay, So that last 156 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 2: sentence is a red flag boom because if you are thinking, 157 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 2: you like, catching him in a lie is not enough 158 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 2: for him to tell the truth, then you don't have 159 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 2: any trust in the relationship. That last like said, is 160 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:51,680 Speaker 2: so telling. Yeah, she doesn't trust him already, so the 161 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 2: relationship is somewhat eroding right now. So, but but in 162 00:08:56,880 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 2: terms of what are some possible explanations, I actually rescind 163 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:05,840 Speaker 2: what I said before about the other families. I just think, oh, 164 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:09,560 Speaker 2: p is not just being cheated on. I think actually 165 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 2: she is the one who is being used to cheat 166 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 2: on the family, and so I think it's almost almost 167 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:20,839 Speaker 2: certainly she is a side piece. 168 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 1: Well, hm, that is an interesting vary and producer Riley, 169 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 1: am I reading into it right that it seems like 170 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 1: he does spend time with you? Do we know how 171 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 1: much time he's spending during the weekday never a full 172 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 1: day job, never a full day a bro, I'm trying 173 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 1: to math the math right now. 174 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:40,679 Speaker 2: When does he spend time with her? 175 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:44,439 Speaker 1: Because he's obviously working during the weekdays holy after after 176 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 1: work a couple like some days some days after work 177 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 1: for a few hours. So it's like, how like what 178 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 1: is the amount of time? 179 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:58,080 Speaker 2: I mean, bro, like, oh, hey, uh, wife, I got 180 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 2: a job. It sucks, I have to go to another city. 181 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 2: I have to live there for five days, but I'll 182 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 2: be back on the weekends. I'll spend time with the kids. Wow. 183 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:12,319 Speaker 1: Wow, that's a good Is this this is a a conspiracy? 184 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:16,320 Speaker 2: Uh? Is the conspiracy theory, tin hat. This is I'm 185 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 2: putting on my tinfoil hat. 186 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 3: Do it. 187 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 2: This is my conspiracy theory. She's a side piece. And 188 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:25,679 Speaker 2: he has a family in his home city, which is 189 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 2: not where they are right now, I mean very interesting. 190 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 1: So basically like he has a whole second place to 191 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 1: where he will go while he's working during the week 192 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 1: and be there, and then on the weekend he tells wifey, Hey, 193 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 1: who's not hopee to be clear, Hey, I'm going to 194 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:42,840 Speaker 1: go home. I'm going to spend the whole there. There's 195 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 1: nothing that will ever ye And that happens all the time. 196 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:47,200 Speaker 1: Happens all the time, every day. 197 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:48,080 Speaker 2: I think. 198 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 1: I think I'm on board with your conspiracy. Put in 199 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 1: the comments below. If you're on board with Sam's conspiracy 200 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:57,679 Speaker 1: foil hats, join me. But we have a major T 201 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 1: alert coming up with a juicy update. Five days later, 202 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 1: so I logged into this account for the first time 203 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:06,839 Speaker 1: since making the original post, and I found that there 204 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 1: were a lot of messages. I haven't read them all, 205 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:13,080 Speaker 1: but I will. The recent ones all ask for an update. 206 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:15,840 Speaker 1: So here it is. When I logged off, things seem 207 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:18,360 Speaker 1: to be pretty split on what to do. Most people 208 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 1: just decided to call him a cheater or say that 209 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:22,440 Speaker 1: I was the side chick. 210 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 2: That's what we said. I feel like I'm about to 211 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 2: be dunked on though. Yeah, yeah, this feels like a 212 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 2: set Yeah. 213 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 1: Frankly, I wasn't sure I could wait another day to 214 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 1: confront him, so I confronted him the night of the post. 215 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 1: No games, no stocking or anything, which irrespectable. I feel 216 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:44,200 Speaker 1: like that's that's a good move. Go be direct. Hey, 217 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:47,600 Speaker 1: what's going on here? I don't understand anyway. I had 218 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:50,080 Speaker 1: texted him telling him to come over when his work 219 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 1: was done, and he did. I waited about five minutes 220 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 1: if that, for him to settle in before telling him 221 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 1: that we needed to talk about something important. 222 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 2: Oh dang, no, we need to talk sentence. 223 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 1: He immediately responded with, uh oh, it's like, bro. 224 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:11,560 Speaker 2: Come on, don't give me some away, like at least 225 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:16,080 Speaker 2: dry I don't know see whoops see ooops my bead 226 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 2: I have enother family. Are you angry at me? 227 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:26,960 Speaker 1: Which was a bit demeaning, But that sarcastic response honestly 228 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 1: matches his personality. Okay, so maybe he could kind of 229 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:30,960 Speaker 1: play it off. 230 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 2: I don't know. I like it just sounds like he 231 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:35,080 Speaker 2: sucks more. 232 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 1: I tell him everything that happened, how hurt I was, 233 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:42,600 Speaker 1: how I didn't feel like I could trust him about anything, 234 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:45,560 Speaker 1: considering he's been doing this for three years, and then 235 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 1: asked if. 236 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 2: He had anything to say. 237 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 1: He told me that he was not cheating on me 238 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 1: or anything like that. No way he says not cheating, 239 00:12:56,960 --> 00:12:57,720 Speaker 1: says not cheating. 240 00:12:57,760 --> 00:12:58,560 Speaker 2: Then what what? 241 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:02,439 Speaker 1: He was just embarrassed about what he had been doing. 242 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:08,000 Speaker 2: I asked him what he could possibly RENI sounds fair, Oh, 243 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 2: I like that Renaissance fair LARPing. I love LARPing. Larping's fun, 244 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 2: LARPing is good a bunch. I'm gonna say I have yeah, Riley, Riley, 245 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:20,319 Speaker 2: I have gone larpeh. 246 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say that he's been training for something like 247 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 1: maybe like a triathlon or like the Olympics or something. 248 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:30,839 Speaker 2: Maybe he's like learning Op's native language. And then at 249 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 2: the wedding he's gonna be like, I've been learning it 250 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 2: this whole time. I love you. 251 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:40,480 Speaker 1: That plausible thing. Pretty Riley does not agree. 252 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 2: Big Protein does not concur I asked. 253 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 1: Him what he could possibly be doing that was so 254 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 1: embarrassing as to hide it and lie about it for 255 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:51,440 Speaker 1: three years. He takes a minute to compose himself, and 256 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:54,840 Speaker 1: then he mutters something he clearly feels guilty, but I 257 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:57,440 Speaker 1: obviously don't hear it. So I asked him what he 258 00:13:57,559 --> 00:13:58,839 Speaker 1: said because I didn't hear. 259 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 2: God, what is it? 260 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:06,560 Speaker 1: He told me that he volunteers at a homeless shelter. 261 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:11,960 Speaker 2: Ballshit, bull of shit. You're saying you're embarrassed about voluntary 262 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 2: That's what I said. I literally that was one of 263 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 2: the things I said where it's just like, oh, that's 264 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 2: a ridiculous excuse, just trying to like, I'm so sorry 265 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 2: I was volunteering at the homeless. I'm so sorry. Are 266 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:28,000 Speaker 2: you mad at me for helping the homeless? It's okay. 267 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 1: I'll let the poor people die be with you, It's 268 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 1: all right. He's just trying to like basically gaslighter to 269 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:36,480 Speaker 1: be like, no, like, how could you stop me from 270 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 1: doing this? 271 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:37,400 Speaker 2: No? 272 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 1: Well, doing this every weekend. Sin's coming here for his PhD, 273 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 1: volunteering at a homeless shelter. I swear to you, whatever 274 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 1: emotions are coming across here were multiplied ten x in 275 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 1: that moment. 276 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 2: I believe you. Op. 277 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:58,360 Speaker 1: I could not comprehend what he was saying like he 278 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 1: was embarrassed for vaunt. I'm tearing at a homeless shelter. 279 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, what the fuck? That's the worst lie ever. It 280 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 2: didn't and still doesn't make any sense. So I asked 281 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:12,880 Speaker 2: him what he meant, and he repeated that he volunteers 282 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:16,560 Speaker 2: at a homeless shelter for six hours on Saturday and 283 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:23,520 Speaker 2: six hours on Sunday every weekend. Of course, I asked. 284 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 1: Him why he would be embarrassed about that, and he 285 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 1: asked if we could talk more about this tomorrow on Sunday. 286 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, let me think of a better lie. Also Saturday, Yeah, 287 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 2: where are you? Why aren't you at the homeless shelter? 288 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 2: Why aren't you at the homeless shelter? And he could 289 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 2: come today what's the deal? Yeah, what's what's going on? 290 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 2: And he can instead show me that he isn't lying 291 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 2: by taking me to volunteer. Yeah, let me do some 292 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 2: quick research on which homeless shelter I always go to? Yeah, 293 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 2: no worries, Maybe click volunteer arrest dot com. Please. 294 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 1: I don't know what I was really thinking. I think 295 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 1: my mind just went blank. So I just agreed with 296 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 1: a sure and I asked. 297 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 2: Him to leave. 298 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:10,880 Speaker 1: He apologized for the whole thing and left, and then 299 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 1: sent a text that he'd pick me up in the 300 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 1: morning so he could prove to me that he's not lying. 301 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. 302 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 1: Of course my mind races all night and I tossed 303 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 1: and turned all night. But Sunday came anyways, and he 304 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 1: wasn't lying no way. 305 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 2: I mean, like, it wasn't lying about you'd take you 306 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 2: to the home shelter. I'm sure he did that. But 307 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:36,240 Speaker 2: if he wasn't lying period, what if what if the 308 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 2: girl he's dating is homeless? Whoa dang? 309 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 1: That would be a plot to him pod to us, 310 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 1: And and that's why he's going. 311 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 2: There, That's why there all the time. 312 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:48,400 Speaker 1: Everyone knows him, and it would literally be a perfect 313 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 1: cover up because they're like, oh yeah, Greg, like oh yeah, 314 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 1: he comes by all the time, but they would probably 315 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 1: also know unless he's got everyone in on it. Man, 316 00:16:57,760 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 1: this is let's see, this is a big conspiracy. He 317 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 1: takes me to a homeless shelter slash soup kitchen. I 318 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:06,719 Speaker 1: don't really know the difference, and we make food, clean 319 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:11,480 Speaker 1: and pack daily necessities for six hours. It clearly isn't 320 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 1: the place to have a conversation so I just spend 321 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:16,199 Speaker 1: most of my time doing the work and chatting with 322 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 1: other people. 323 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:20,480 Speaker 2: Great, she can't ask any questions, perfect right, Yeah, you're brilliant. 324 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:22,600 Speaker 2: No questions in the soup kitchen. 325 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:25,400 Speaker 1: And they were really nice, but of course the whole 326 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:27,880 Speaker 1: thing was still weighing on my mind the entire time. 327 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 1: So I start asking them about my boyfriend, and they 328 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:34,680 Speaker 1: confirm that he's been working there as long as they 329 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:38,920 Speaker 1: can remember, and is there every weekend. He's been there 330 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:43,879 Speaker 1: longer than most of them. It seems what he's not lying. 331 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:48,160 Speaker 2: Why are you embarrassed about volunteer? That's like the classic, 332 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:50,480 Speaker 2: like tinder hinge bio. It's like, oh, like, what do 333 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 2: you like to do? It's like, you know, long walks 334 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:56,840 Speaker 2: on the beach, working with the homeless, at a homeless shelter, 335 00:17:57,160 --> 00:18:00,399 Speaker 2: cooking with my grandma. And then it's like damn hatch 336 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:04,160 Speaker 2: and then he's actually he's actually doing it, or he's 337 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:07,640 Speaker 2: paid off everyone, and there's so much actors. He did 338 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:11,399 Speaker 2: a Michael Jackson supermarket experience where he hired everyone in 339 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 2: the supermarket to figure out what it was like to 340 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:17,359 Speaker 2: be a human. That is, that's a real thing that 341 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:22,400 Speaker 2: Michael Jackson supermarket. Wow, that you know what it could be? 342 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 1: Because I mean again, every weekend for three years, he's embarrassed. 343 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:29,560 Speaker 1: It still doesn't seem like it still seems crazy. It 344 00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:32,840 Speaker 1: is crazy, it still seems great. Let's let's keep going. Finally, 345 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:35,400 Speaker 1: our volunteering ends and we head back to his car 346 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 1: and I start the conversation, but he shuts me down 347 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:40,320 Speaker 1: and asked me to wait until we can get back 348 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 1: to his place. 349 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:43,080 Speaker 2: Fucking trying to think, trying to think. 350 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 1: I say, fine, maybe I'm just being a dorm ot here, 351 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:48,679 Speaker 1: but I was just so confused and lost. 352 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:52,200 Speaker 2: Oh I think I know, I think I know why 353 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:56,359 Speaker 2: he might be embarrassed. Tinfoil hat he was homeless and 354 00:18:56,520 --> 00:18:57,640 Speaker 2: was at that homeless shelter. 355 00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:02,120 Speaker 1: Maybe that's the reason. And then he and then he 356 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:05,360 Speaker 1: doesn't want op to come and see, like, oh, I'm homeless, 357 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 1: I don't have a place, but didn't Big protein did well. 358 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:10,919 Speaker 2: But I think he maybe I don't know if he 359 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:12,840 Speaker 2: currently is homeless. I think he was homeless. 360 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 1: He was homeless, and then maybe he's like, hey, as 361 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:16,359 Speaker 1: a way to be with the community, I want to 362 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:18,959 Speaker 1: still go every weekend. And if she went there and 363 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 1: asked too many questions which he's true to. 364 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:22,720 Speaker 2: Find out that he wants is homeless, Maybe he was 365 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:24,160 Speaker 2: addicted to drugs or something. 366 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:27,040 Speaker 1: Honestly, that that seems that we've been joking about a 367 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:29,399 Speaker 1: lot of different things. That actually does seem play that 368 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:31,240 Speaker 1: kind of that kind of truck actually does, let's see. 369 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:34,960 Speaker 1: So we head into his apartment. Once there, the talking begins. 370 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:37,320 Speaker 1: He asks if I believe that he's telling the truth 371 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:40,399 Speaker 1: about working at the homeless shelter every weekend, and I 372 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 1: say that I do, since I confirmed it with a 373 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 1: lot of people while there. But I also said that 374 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 1: I don't understand the lying, especially for as long as 375 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:52,960 Speaker 1: he did. He apologizes again and asks if I really 376 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 1: want to know why he was keeping it a secret. 377 00:19:56,560 --> 00:19:58,639 Speaker 2: Duh, I want to know? Duh? 378 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 1: I say, of course, duh. And you and Oper to 379 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 1: peas in a pod faking got this mind share? Go in, dude, 380 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:08,840 Speaker 1: He sighs, and then he tells me that he doesn't 381 00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 1: like people knowing that he likes helping people. Yep, he does, 382 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:17,399 Speaker 1: Like fuck, he doesn't like people knowing what Sam. He 383 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:21,119 Speaker 1: doesn't like people knowing. He would rather keep it under wraps. 384 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:22,920 Speaker 1: He can't tell his girlfriend of three years he can't 385 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 1: do it. It's like when my friend was like, hey, 386 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 1: you know, like I'm not like other guys. I just 387 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:29,000 Speaker 1: like want to date like models from Harvard. 388 00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:34,360 Speaker 2: I'm like, that doesn't make any like, like that is 389 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 2: not a weird thing. Yeah, And also volunteering at a 390 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 2: home much shelter is not a weird thing that makes 391 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 2: you different or deserves abuse. People are like, oh, like 392 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:47,400 Speaker 2: that is universally known as a good thing. 393 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:50,480 Speaker 1: I mean, I guess OP is like I don't want 394 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 1: it to like come off as like, oh, I'm trying 395 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 1: to be this good per like, like basically, what is it? 396 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:58,640 Speaker 1: So I'm forgetting the word virtue signaling. I think OP 397 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:00,080 Speaker 1: is like I want to stay as far. 398 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:03,320 Speaker 2: From purchasing going in that can make any sense to 399 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:04,879 Speaker 2: that doesn't make any sense. 400 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:09,720 Speaker 1: Obviously, I'm going to ask WTF because this is so weird, 401 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 1: So I ask him to explain. He tells me that 402 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:15,720 Speaker 1: when he was an undergrad student that he would always 403 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:18,280 Speaker 1: try to help his class behind the scenes by discussing 404 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 1: problems they had or negotiating for curves or extensions on 405 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:25,720 Speaker 1: their assignments, even when he didn't personally need it. He 406 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 1: said he enjoyed doing it, and kept doing it as 407 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 1: a master student, but then started to do so before 408 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:35,639 Speaker 1: and after classes publicly. Apparently, most of his classmates were 409 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:39,200 Speaker 1: still happy with him, but a few basically hated him 410 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:42,720 Speaker 1: for it because he was babysitting them or something question mark. 411 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:46,120 Speaker 1: So he went back to doing things behind the scenes 412 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 1: and no longer tries to associate himself with any of 413 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:52,040 Speaker 1: the things he does to help others. 414 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:57,639 Speaker 2: Are we buying it, dude? I mean this is in 415 00:21:57,680 --> 00:22:00,400 Speaker 2: a lat like this is this is becoming if if 416 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:02,679 Speaker 2: he is lying, the lie is very elaborate. 417 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:05,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, at this point, Producer Riley, what do you think 418 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:07,720 Speaker 1: that's true? 419 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:11,720 Speaker 2: All powerful? Also, I realize I can see Riley's face 420 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:13,560 Speaker 2: in the mirror, which is great. There you go. 421 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:20,800 Speaker 1: Hopefully I'm not the only one that finds this so 422 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:25,119 Speaker 1: dang weird. You're not like the homeless shelter stuff and 423 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 1: assisting your classmates aren't remotely the same. I say as such, 424 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:30,800 Speaker 1: and he tells me it is the same thing. It 425 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:33,240 Speaker 1: helps people, So he doesn't like people to know about 426 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:36,960 Speaker 1: it because they might misinterpret his intent and think he's 427 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 1: masquerading around as a good person. Then he assures me 428 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:44,320 Speaker 1: that he's not a good person at all, but he's still. 429 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:45,159 Speaker 2: Time cheating on you. 430 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 1: Yeah right, I mean that doesn't bode well, and that 431 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:51,800 Speaker 1: he still wants to do what he can for people, 432 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 1: so this is what he does. WTF. So I ask 433 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:58,160 Speaker 1: if he really thinks I would get mad that he's 434 00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:01,199 Speaker 1: helping homeless people in his free time. He tells me 435 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:04,040 Speaker 1: he wasn't sure at first, especially since I wanted to 436 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:08,720 Speaker 1: spend weekends together when we were going out. Duhy, every 437 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 1: couple does, so he just lied to hide it at first, 438 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 1: but he knows I wouldn't do that now, but kept 439 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:17,920 Speaker 1: the lie going because he thought it would be too 440 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:20,719 Speaker 1: weird to suddenly say that he's been volunteering at a 441 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 1: homeless shelter. So kind of like sunken cost a little 442 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 1: bit is his line of thinking. 443 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 2: I do not buy it for a second. 444 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 1: I feel like I've come to the conclusion that he's 445 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:37,439 Speaker 1: just really, really weird. His way of thinking has always 446 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 1: been odd, but this in particular is just so weird. 447 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 1: Like he seems to understand the situation and where I'm 448 00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:46,200 Speaker 1: coming from, but didn't think to tell me the truth 449 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:49,520 Speaker 1: on his own. We started going in circles, so I 450 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:52,600 Speaker 1: ended the conversation and had him drive home in silence. 451 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:55,200 Speaker 1: Since then, he sent a number of texts and has 452 00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 1: tried to call me a few times. I didn't pick 453 00:23:57,359 --> 00:23:59,480 Speaker 1: up on Monday or Tuesday because I felt like I 454 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 1: needed time to think. But I finally picked up today 455 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 1: and we had a talk in which we both reiterated 456 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:06,200 Speaker 1: what we had said. 457 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:08,399 Speaker 2: I know that a lot. 458 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:11,120 Speaker 1: Of people, literally all of them at this time, were 459 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:14,040 Speaker 1: telling me to break up with him, but I'm still 460 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:17,439 Speaker 1: thinking things through. I'm going to try and get him 461 00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:20,760 Speaker 1: to hang out this weekend and make my decision after 462 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:21,720 Speaker 1: I think some more. 463 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:25,880 Speaker 2: Imagine he's like, Babe, no, I have pleague out there. 464 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:30,639 Speaker 1: This whole thing has been so weird. I'm sorry that 465 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:32,920 Speaker 1: I've repeated that so much, but my brain is still 466 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 1: rather scrambled though it's it's insane, It's truly insane. I 467 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 1: don't think that there will be any more updates to this, 468 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:45,360 Speaker 1: because shit, because we either stay together or break up. 469 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:48,680 Speaker 1: But if there are, they won't be posted here. And 470 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:51,639 Speaker 1: there's a quick edit. Reading through a lot of the 471 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 1: comments of the previous post now to answer some of 472 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 1: the most common questions. I haven't met his parents, but 473 00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:59,159 Speaker 1: I have met a few of his friends. He doesn't 474 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:01,600 Speaker 1: have social media. Yeah, he's met my family since I'm 475 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:05,480 Speaker 1: local and we do spend holidays together if they aren't 476 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:07,400 Speaker 1: on weekends. 477 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 2: Not having social media not necessarily a red flag, but 478 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:12,920 Speaker 2: it makes it much easier to cheat. 479 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 1: Yes, And it's like it's just all of the things 480 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:19,560 Speaker 1: combined look so suspicious. 481 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:24,159 Speaker 2: It's so sus It's like he's literally giving the classic 482 00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 2: lie that you give. That's so like, it's it's the 483 00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:30,920 Speaker 2: epitome of the lie that you give when you know 484 00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 2: you're lying and everyone else knows you're lying, but you're 485 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:36,200 Speaker 2: trying to act like you're doing the right thing. Yeah, 486 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:40,359 Speaker 2: it's it's, it's it's it's a joke of a a lie. 487 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:42,400 Speaker 2: It's like, it's a joke. It's a joke. It's a joke. 488 00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:46,320 Speaker 1: But let's put the tinfoil hat back on. What do 489 00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:52,440 Speaker 1: we conspirarize the reason? And this dude's cheating. I think 490 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:56,359 Speaker 1: he's cheating, still cheating still, but I'm specifically curious about 491 00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:58,920 Speaker 1: like what is this his situation with the homeless shelter 492 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:00,679 Speaker 1: and everything, Like, is he is he using it as 493 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:03,880 Speaker 1: a I kind of think he's like doing it on purpose, 494 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:07,199 Speaker 1: so he's like, Okay, I'm going to uh do it 495 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:10,080 Speaker 1: this every week and have this as an alibi. After 496 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:13,600 Speaker 1: the six hours, maybe I go and spend time with 497 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:19,560 Speaker 1: a prostitute, somebody, his wife, another girl, like anybody that's. 498 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 2: Not op Yeah, I think paid actors, paid actors or 499 00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:30,040 Speaker 2: like friends, drug dealer friends, drug dealer friends. I like, 500 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:33,119 Speaker 2: I just like it's hard to explain, right because he 501 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:36,040 Speaker 2: doesn't make any sense. I'm trying to think of a 502 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:38,080 Speaker 2: reason that you would do this, and it doesn't make 503 00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 2: any sense. 504 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:41,359 Speaker 1: Well, like, okay, so if what about my theory? So 505 00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:44,080 Speaker 1: like if if he does go, if he basically planned 506 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:47,359 Speaker 1: it all as an alibi, which is just like crazy, 507 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 1: evil genius insanity. But he's like, I will actually volunteer here. 508 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:54,840 Speaker 1: Maybe maybe he's like, hey, I need to counteract the 509 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 1: bad I'm doing and have an alibi. I go here 510 00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:02,240 Speaker 1: for six hours every Saturday, every Sunday. I then go 511 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:05,359 Speaker 1: in time with my wife and kids after that day 512 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:08,399 Speaker 1: is over. It's still it's like a little less I 513 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:10,200 Speaker 1: liked your original theory of like, oh, he has a 514 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:12,320 Speaker 1: secret family that he spent or like I guess the 515 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:14,280 Speaker 1: main family that he spends the whole weekend with it 516 00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:17,000 Speaker 1: does doesn't quite fit in there, but it's the most 517 00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:18,720 Speaker 1: reasonable thing I could possibly think of. 518 00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:23,080 Speaker 2: I'm very curious to see where we end up. 519 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:26,919 Speaker 1: Well, we do have some relevant comments. A commenter asked 520 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:31,000 Speaker 1: op about the possible volunteering services being mandated by the 521 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:33,680 Speaker 1: courts if the boyfriend has done something illegally. 522 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:40,880 Speaker 2: Boo and oh that sounds so on point. Hey where 523 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:44,879 Speaker 2: were you, commenter when we were doing the tinfoil dude? Fuck, 524 00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:47,200 Speaker 2: that's pretty good. I need to understand more about the 525 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:51,399 Speaker 2: criminal justice system. That's I would never have known about that. Yeah, 526 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:56,320 Speaker 2: it's a great a great theory in question. Yeah, yep, Yeah, 527 00:27:56,600 --> 00:28:00,440 Speaker 2: I bet he's a flasher. A flasher yep, but he's 528 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:03,560 Speaker 2: a flasher. I bet that's how I had the community 529 00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:07,080 Speaker 2: service that he is also a flasher. Yeah, flasher going 530 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:09,840 Speaker 2: two for two on flash, two for two each testicle. 531 00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:13,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, one for each crime. Baby, if you. 532 00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:16,440 Speaker 2: Flash a single testicle, do you think it's as bad 533 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:19,440 Speaker 2: as flashing both? If you're like, if you're like, oh shit, 534 00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:20,480 Speaker 2: it's my nuts. 535 00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:23,840 Speaker 1: Easier to not catch the case because it's just so 536 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 1: little flesh being revealed that someone might notice. I mean, 537 00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:32,440 Speaker 1: still for yourself, that's fastball. If you let your nuts hang, 538 00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 1: then that that could work big protein. 539 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:37,359 Speaker 4: I think it's like kind of disappointing because, like you know, 540 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:39,360 Speaker 4: if you like, if you actually get flashed, but you 541 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:40,960 Speaker 4: only see one boob, it's like, well, I want to 542 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:41,560 Speaker 4: see the other one. 543 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:44,400 Speaker 3: Now. It's sort of like that with nuts for whoever's. 544 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:51,200 Speaker 2: Washing women of the podcast. If you do mirror Riley sentiment, 545 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:54,920 Speaker 2: if you saw one nut, you would want to see 546 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:59,080 Speaker 2: the other one. Also on that tip, I have a 547 00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:02,920 Speaker 2: okay story time for the end of this story. 548 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:04,800 Speaker 1: Okay, story time coming up. 549 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:07,760 Speaker 2: Flashing John flashing his nuts. 550 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:10,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, you have to wait till the okay story time. 551 00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:11,280 Speaker 2: That's how it works. 552 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:15,960 Speaker 1: So, and then continuing the question from the commenter, they 553 00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:20,240 Speaker 1: asked if the volunteers also lied for him on his whereabouts, 554 00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:23,600 Speaker 1: Op responds, there have been quite a few comments about 555 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:27,200 Speaker 1: it possibly being court ordered. I don't want to identify 556 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:30,600 Speaker 1: his field completely or anything, because it's pretty niche. But 557 00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:33,640 Speaker 1: if he had a criminal record, it would be incredibly 558 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:36,360 Speaker 1: difficult to work in his field. So I don't think 559 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:38,720 Speaker 1: that he has one. I haven't looked at his messages 560 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:41,720 Speaker 1: or anything of the sort. Maybe people are going to 561 00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:45,160 Speaker 1: call you naive for this, But getting every single volunteer 562 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:48,360 Speaker 1: I talked to you over that six hour period, Yeah, 563 00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:51,120 Speaker 1: that seems too hard. That seems like a bad thing. 564 00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:52,200 Speaker 2: That's difficult to do. 565 00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:54,040 Speaker 1: Which is why I feel like my theory like he 566 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:57,000 Speaker 1: does legitimately do it but uses it as his owlbox. 567 00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:01,000 Speaker 1: But getting every single volunteer I talk to over that 568 00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:04,280 Speaker 1: six hour period, in addition to some people who are 569 00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:06,840 Speaker 1: making use of the services to lie for him, seems 570 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:09,400 Speaker 1: really unlikely. So he's he literally seeing the people coming 571 00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 1: in for the services. Everyone is saying definitely, I feel 572 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:14,600 Speaker 1: like he's definitely working there for sure. I don't think 573 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:17,320 Speaker 1: he's having people lie for him. I think I think 574 00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:20,360 Speaker 1: the it's potentially court ordered. Yeah, it's a good theory. 575 00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:24,720 Speaker 1: I think I underplay the seriousness with which he explained 576 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:28,120 Speaker 1: the conflict with his classmates. I didn't follow it completely, 577 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:30,600 Speaker 1: but he did seem to be really affected by the 578 00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:33,760 Speaker 1: whole thing. Maybe he's acting, but it doesn't look that 579 00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:37,760 Speaker 1: way to me. We have a juicy update coming up, 580 00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:40,480 Speaker 1: but are we still standing strong in the theory that 581 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:41,560 Speaker 1: the commentary hire. 582 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:44,360 Speaker 2: Liar liar pants on fire sitting on a telephone wire. 583 00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:46,080 Speaker 1: Oh, I never heard telephone wire. 584 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:50,320 Speaker 2: There were heard telephone wire. New bars pants on fire, 585 00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:54,560 Speaker 2: sitting on a telephone wire. He does he doth perspire 586 00:30:55,360 --> 00:31:00,680 Speaker 2: from the fire, but lies lies of his ugly desire. Hmm, 587 00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:06,400 Speaker 2: that caused me, iire, and with which we will inquire. Yes, Sire, 588 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:09,600 Speaker 2: Major T alerts onto the juicy updates. 589 00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:12,680 Speaker 1: So I asked him to come over so we could talk, 590 00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:15,600 Speaker 1: and he did. I then asked him some of the 591 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:17,920 Speaker 1: questions people had on here that I had written down. 592 00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:21,280 Speaker 1: Volunteering for six hours but still not having time for me. 593 00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:23,800 Speaker 1: He said that he would get there a little early 594 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:26,880 Speaker 1: and leave late, but would then spend the remaining hours 595 00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:30,840 Speaker 1: running errands and actually working on his PhD and assistant stuff. 596 00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:33,560 Speaker 1: I asked if he could give me details. He gave 597 00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:37,200 Speaker 1: some details about his academic articles that I don't quite remember. 598 00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:40,760 Speaker 1: I asked why he couldn't spend more weekend evenings with 599 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:43,040 Speaker 1: me if this was the case. He said that he 600 00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:45,920 Speaker 1: was really busy with work and that I would distract 601 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:50,400 Speaker 1: him out. Out of all the things said, I think 602 00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:53,080 Speaker 1: this is the one that bothers me the most. I 603 00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:57,280 Speaker 1: asked him if the volunteering was court ordered. He laughed 604 00:31:57,320 --> 00:32:00,200 Speaker 1: at that and was clearly confused by the question, but 605 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:04,320 Speaker 1: answered that given the special population he works with doing 606 00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:07,240 Speaker 1: his PhD, he doubts he'd be able to work with 607 00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:10,960 Speaker 1: them if he had a record that required so many hours, 608 00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:13,320 Speaker 1: which I mean, I guess he answered it, but also, 609 00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:15,440 Speaker 1: that's kind of a skaty answer. 610 00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:18,760 Speaker 2: I don't know. To me a little bit, yes, but 611 00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:22,080 Speaker 2: it sounds it sounds like he's saying now. 612 00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:25,920 Speaker 1: Yes, which also kind of aligns what Op already said 613 00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:28,280 Speaker 1: to the commentary before. I asked if he was ever 614 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:31,120 Speaker 1: going to tell me about the volunteering. He initially says 615 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:34,600 Speaker 1: he doesn't know, and then he replies that he probably 616 00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:38,920 Speaker 1: wouldn't have. Babe, we can't have the winning on the weekend. 617 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:43,480 Speaker 1: That's when I'm gone. Never never, he says, he probably 618 00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:44,960 Speaker 1: wouldn't have ever, So you just. 619 00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:47,920 Speaker 2: Would have never seen each other on weekends for as 620 00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:51,200 Speaker 2: long as you both shall live. Yeah, that's ridiculous. Simple, 621 00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:53,160 Speaker 2: Why take care of my kids? I have to go 622 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:54,760 Speaker 2: to the homeless shelter. I have to take care of 623 00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:56,920 Speaker 2: the kids that need it most. My kids have a home, 624 00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:59,680 Speaker 2: the homeless children. Why would I take care kids that 625 00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:03,480 Speaker 2: air conditioning? These kids barely have soup come on, if 626 00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:05,760 Speaker 2: I wasn't there, they wouldn't have soup. So I gotta 627 00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:07,360 Speaker 2: be there. I got there, got to be there. 628 00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:10,640 Speaker 1: He apologized for lying, but then said that whether he 629 00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:13,760 Speaker 1: was working or volunteering doesn't make much of a difference 630 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:15,640 Speaker 1: to how much time he spent with me. 631 00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:19,720 Speaker 2: Yes, it does. What do you mean he's gone for 632 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:23,360 Speaker 2: the whole day on Saturday and Sunday. That is prime 633 00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:25,760 Speaker 2: time for relationship noodling. 634 00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:29,960 Speaker 1: Obviously, I pushed back on this, and he got defensive, 635 00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:33,520 Speaker 1: and we had an argument that basically reiterated how I 636 00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:36,320 Speaker 1: felt like, and then I couldn't trust him because he 637 00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:39,480 Speaker 1: was lying about this. While he just kept apologizing for 638 00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:42,480 Speaker 1: the lying and making me feel that way, but that 639 00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:45,320 Speaker 1: it wouldn't have changed how we spent time together. 640 00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:48,120 Speaker 2: But he's like, whether or not I was out the homeless, 641 00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:50,240 Speaker 2: yell there. I don't want to spend weekends with you. 642 00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:50,680 Speaker 2: I'm not. 643 00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:53,760 Speaker 1: Why would I be with you on the weekend when 644 00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:54,760 Speaker 1: we both don't have work? 645 00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:56,000 Speaker 2: Disgusting. 646 00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:59,320 Speaker 1: Ultimately, I asked him to explain to me again why 647 00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:02,640 Speaker 1: he hit it in the first place. Like he said previously, 648 00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:06,400 Speaker 1: he used to talk to professors doing undergrad about extensions 649 00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:10,000 Speaker 1: and questions others had behind closed doors, and then to 650 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:12,960 Speaker 1: make sure things were stated to the rest of the class. 651 00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:15,520 Speaker 1: He did the same thing in his master's program, so 652 00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:17,320 Speaker 1: basically where he helped a bunch of people out and 653 00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:19,600 Speaker 1: then people got mad. Right, this is where I got 654 00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:22,839 Speaker 1: lost before. One of his professors was a hard ass, 655 00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:25,560 Speaker 1: and some of his classmates were scared to talk to 656 00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:28,480 Speaker 1: him about their grades. So he thought that he could 657 00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:31,400 Speaker 1: show them that he was willing to discuss grades, and 658 00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:34,400 Speaker 1: he made a joke about his own grade in class. 659 00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:37,480 Speaker 1: The professor didn't find it funny and then went on 660 00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:40,319 Speaker 1: a ti rad about respect and showing him up, and 661 00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:44,720 Speaker 1: apparently the class ended shortly thereafter because it was so tense. 662 00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:47,520 Speaker 1: He said that some of the other students felt like 663 00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:50,960 Speaker 1: they needed to cut ties to show the professor they 664 00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:53,359 Speaker 1: weren't in on the joke, and that a few of 665 00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:56,680 Speaker 1: them made a show of hating him on that point forward. 666 00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:59,719 Speaker 1: Hearing it more in depth, at least makes a little 667 00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:03,520 Speaker 1: more sense to me. I stated again that helping homeless 668 00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:07,560 Speaker 1: and helping classmates seemed like entirely different things altogether. 669 00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:10,120 Speaker 2: He said that they felt like they were. 670 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,319 Speaker 1: The same thing to him, but I was probably right, 671 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:15,360 Speaker 1: and he was wrong so really quick, Producer Riley, Basically, 672 00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:17,920 Speaker 1: what I'm picking up from what he's saying here is 673 00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:20,920 Speaker 1: that like almost seemed like a traumatic experience for him 674 00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:23,680 Speaker 1: when he was like helping people behind closed doors. Well, 675 00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:26,440 Speaker 1: I mean he got ostracized by his entire class. Yeah, 676 00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:30,279 Speaker 1: So it's like he's basically like, Okay, you know what, 677 00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:34,080 Speaker 1: you guys flamed me in like three hundred people and 678 00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:37,360 Speaker 1: an auditorium flamed me. So I'll just never tell anyone 679 00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:39,839 Speaker 1: ever again. Does that make us kind of believe it more? 680 00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:41,719 Speaker 3: No, I'm a boyd. 681 00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:43,919 Speaker 1: I think it might be true, but I still think 682 00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:45,759 Speaker 1: he's like cheating or doing something nefarious. 683 00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:49,840 Speaker 2: I just think is bullshit. I Like, it's just there's 684 00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:51,279 Speaker 2: I don't believe it is he. 685 00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:55,560 Speaker 3: Is he what I thought he was, like neuro divergent 686 00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:56,879 Speaker 3: in some way, like. 687 00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:59,239 Speaker 1: He had made a disclaimer of some sort on that, 688 00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:02,400 Speaker 1: which I mean, we've we've had that before with with 689 00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:04,680 Speaker 1: some of these episodes where people later in the story 690 00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:08,759 Speaker 1: of oh, I'm neurodivergent in this way. So but as 691 00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:09,520 Speaker 1: far as we look at. 692 00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:11,560 Speaker 2: The very least, he may not be neurodivergent. But he's 693 00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:12,000 Speaker 2: just weird. 694 00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:15,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, like not telling about this whole thing. Yeah, 695 00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:19,760 Speaker 1: it's it's it's it's very atypical, very odd. I asked 696 00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:23,000 Speaker 1: him why he said that he's a bad person. Great question, 697 00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:26,080 Speaker 1: he replied, asking if he had said that, and I 698 00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:29,200 Speaker 1: said yes. He said that he didn't want the volunteering 699 00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:31,799 Speaker 1: to make him seem like a good person because he's not. 700 00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:35,719 Speaker 1: I asked what he meant, and he replied that I 701 00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:39,800 Speaker 1: know him. I said, I'm not sure I do. He said, damn, 702 00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:43,240 Speaker 1: he said that I know what he means. I don't 703 00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:47,600 Speaker 1: you do, et cetera, et cetera. This goes on in circles. Personally, 704 00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:50,160 Speaker 1: I think he has low self esteem, but this is 705 00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:52,799 Speaker 1: a weird way to express it. I'm not sure what 706 00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:56,360 Speaker 1: else it could be, because he's literally not answering the 707 00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:57,560 Speaker 1: question like, oh, I'm a bad person. 708 00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:00,480 Speaker 2: Oh you know why? Why? Because you know, you know, 709 00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:03,279 Speaker 2: you've been questioning about cheating this whole time, so you 710 00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:06,120 Speaker 2: really know, Come on, you trust yourself, not me? 711 00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:09,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, come on, believe the lies I tell you, but 712 00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:10,320 Speaker 1: don't come on seriously. 713 00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:10,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know. 714 00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:14,240 Speaker 1: I told him I wasn't sure I wanted to continue 715 00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:17,319 Speaker 1: the relationship because of the line Wow. He seemed hurt, 716 00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:20,719 Speaker 1: but then just said, okay, and that's my decision. I 717 00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:23,040 Speaker 1: told him that he should at least get therapy for 718 00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:26,600 Speaker 1: the classmate thing, because it's clearly affected him negatively. He 719 00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:30,319 Speaker 1: replied that he probably should, but he won't. After that, 720 00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:32,799 Speaker 1: I gave him an ultimatum. 721 00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:36,920 Speaker 2: We love ultimatum. Part of a relationship. 722 00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:41,320 Speaker 1: Could be a segment, the ultimate ultimatum, the ultimate ultimatum, 723 00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:42,160 Speaker 1: something like that. 724 00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:44,719 Speaker 2: What should the ultimatum be that saves this relationship? 725 00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:49,480 Speaker 1: Ooh, that's a hard one, big protest. 726 00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:49,879 Speaker 3: You got one? 727 00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:53,520 Speaker 2: Anyways, stop fucking the homeless, fucking me instead, you got one. 728 00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:55,239 Speaker 3: What's the big ultimatum? 729 00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:57,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, the ultimatum that will save this relationship? 730 00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:01,600 Speaker 1: I think I want to say, like you, you have 731 00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:04,080 Speaker 1: to be honest and we have to spend weekends together 732 00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:06,640 Speaker 1: and stuff like that, But I just I just have 733 00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:08,800 Speaker 1: this snagging suspicion that he's still not being one hundred 734 00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:11,000 Speaker 1: percent honest, which is why it's hard for me to 735 00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:13,560 Speaker 1: even propose a possible ultimating. 736 00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:15,520 Speaker 2: I would love to, I mean, we have a little 737 00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:16,920 Speaker 2: bit more of the story left, but I would love 738 00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:20,719 Speaker 2: to ask you guys, like, do you believe him at 739 00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:24,040 Speaker 2: this point, because, at least for me, I still don't 740 00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:27,480 Speaker 2: say I don't believe in the comments. If you don't believe, and. 741 00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:30,319 Speaker 1: Let us know why. But let's get into the ultimatum. 742 00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:34,080 Speaker 1: Either spend more time with me on weekends and go 743 00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:37,759 Speaker 1: to therapy, or we break up. I told him to 744 00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:41,000 Speaker 1: think about it, and that he has until Saturday. He 745 00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:44,200 Speaker 1: said he would, and he went on his way. 746 00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:47,200 Speaker 2: I'm thinking he's he's not gonna give it up. Dude. Yeah, 747 00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:49,080 Speaker 2: he lives the homeless too much. He loves the homeless 748 00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:49,439 Speaker 2: too much. 749 00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:51,600 Speaker 1: I want to keep wanting to ask you, big protein, 750 00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:53,920 Speaker 1: why why why can't I ask you questions? 751 00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:54,640 Speaker 2: Why? 752 00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:59,399 Speaker 3: I'm just because I know because you know? Yeah? 753 00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:00,400 Speaker 2: Why not? I want to? 754 00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:02,120 Speaker 1: I want to ask you all the questions. Can you 755 00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:03,600 Speaker 1: just delete the stories from your brain? 756 00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:06,120 Speaker 3: Actually, yeah, there are a few I don't know. 757 00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:13,560 Speaker 1: Perfect Well, gentlemen, we have a juicy update, major T alert. 758 00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:15,600 Speaker 2: Come on, let's get into it. John, spill it. 759 00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:20,239 Speaker 1: I'll spill it all over you, big boys. This will 760 00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:24,040 Speaker 1: probably be my last post here. He said that last 761 00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:28,920 Speaker 1: time Saturday came and he asked me to compromise. He 762 00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:33,000 Speaker 1: would take one day off from volunteering if I volunteered 763 00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:36,359 Speaker 1: with him the other day and he would not have 764 00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:39,400 Speaker 1: to go to therapy. I said, I still need to 765 00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:40,000 Speaker 1: think about it. 766 00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:44,080 Speaker 2: Wait. Wait, so she wanted him to stop going to 767 00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:46,000 Speaker 2: at least one day of volunteering. 768 00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:48,960 Speaker 1: I think it was pretty much all of it. Yeah, 769 00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:51,880 Speaker 1: spend more time with me on the weekends. So basically 770 00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:54,320 Speaker 1: give me some weekends. 771 00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:57,520 Speaker 2: Right, So he's like, yes, we can spend time together 772 00:39:57,880 --> 00:39:59,200 Speaker 2: at the home shelter. 773 00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:01,200 Speaker 3: They're putting time together. 774 00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:04,239 Speaker 1: God, he is just too dedicated, Doug. 775 00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:06,440 Speaker 2: I love how he didn't. He wouldn't even be like, oh, 776 00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:08,359 Speaker 2: you can come to the home shoulder. They both days 777 00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:09,960 Speaker 2: if you want. He's like, you know, one day is 778 00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:10,279 Speaker 2: for me. 779 00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:13,040 Speaker 1: Well, because because he also is, he's giving her one 780 00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:16,920 Speaker 1: day of them two just together out volunteering and the homeless. 781 00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:20,000 Speaker 2: So he's taking a full day off of homeless, full 782 00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:23,760 Speaker 2: day off, wow, vacation a vacation, and then the second 783 00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:26,440 Speaker 2: day so they would technically be together the whole weekend. 784 00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:29,880 Speaker 2: I like, I cut, I'm focused on he refuses to 785 00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:30,480 Speaker 2: go to therapy. 786 00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:33,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, but I I I'm like, why does he refuse 787 00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:34,600 Speaker 1: to go to therapy? 788 00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:39,400 Speaker 2: I'm like, another weird thing that makes me suspicious of everything. 789 00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:41,879 Speaker 2: I think he needs it, but you know, it's the best. 790 00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:44,239 Speaker 2: Based on all this trauma that he said he went through, 791 00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:45,359 Speaker 2: it seems like it would do him. 792 00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:47,759 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, that's what I'm saying. I'm like, I'm like, 793 00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:50,280 Speaker 1: at least explain yourself, which. 794 00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:53,000 Speaker 2: Maybe he does. Maybe he can't. Right, let's finish the story. 795 00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:53,920 Speaker 2: Let's seelet's let's hear. 796 00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:56,600 Speaker 1: I said I needed to think about it. I told 797 00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:59,400 Speaker 1: him later that night that i'd accept the compromise if 798 00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:02,240 Speaker 1: he was willing to do one therapy session. 799 00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:05,360 Speaker 2: Fair, that's fair. At least that's still fair. 800 00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:09,160 Speaker 1: On Sunday morning, he told me that he would not 801 00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:12,120 Speaker 1: be willing to go to therapy and asked that we 802 00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:14,600 Speaker 1: go to dinner. We went to a local diner and 803 00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:20,720 Speaker 1: he basically talked about ending things for the relationship. Whoa 804 00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:22,760 Speaker 1: switching it back around? 805 00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:26,080 Speaker 2: He apologized for ending things this way and said that 806 00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:30,040 Speaker 2: he knew he wasn't exactly being reasonable, but he's doing 807 00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:33,040 Speaker 2: what he feels like he needs to do. Wow. 808 00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:36,520 Speaker 1: I basically said, that's up to him. We wished each 809 00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:39,120 Speaker 1: other the best. He gave me a parting hug, and 810 00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:41,120 Speaker 1: I went on my way. 811 00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:42,040 Speaker 3: Damn. 812 00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:42,960 Speaker 2: So yeah. 813 00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:46,400 Speaker 1: Three years of commitment for this kind of sucks. 814 00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:51,840 Speaker 2: Have a good day. Damn that sucks. Dude, that sucks. 815 00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:55,600 Speaker 2: I still don't believe him. 816 00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:58,319 Speaker 1: I still don't believe him, Riley, I could finally ask 817 00:41:58,320 --> 00:41:59,480 Speaker 1: you about the story because it's over. 818 00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:01,320 Speaker 2: What do you thing? Do you do? You believe? I 819 00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:02,200 Speaker 2: think rarely believes. 820 00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:03,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, I believe it. 821 00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:06,239 Speaker 4: But like like Bro's gonna lock to work through with 822 00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:08,680 Speaker 4: Like he's like he keeps telling himself that he's a 823 00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:11,520 Speaker 4: bad person even though like he's helping a lot of 824 00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:13,759 Speaker 4: people and taking a significant amount of time on the 825 00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:15,120 Speaker 4: weekends helping people. 826 00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:18,760 Speaker 2: Like I think he's doing some shit on the side. Dude, 827 00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:20,880 Speaker 2: he's doing something. 828 00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:24,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, what if it also he could be doing something 829 00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:27,200 Speaker 1: on the side. What if he did something like really 830 00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:30,640 Speaker 1: really really terrible, Like I don't know, like you know. 831 00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:34,280 Speaker 4: What's giving what it's giving Batman because Batman Bruce Wayne 832 00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:35,440 Speaker 4: feels like he's a bad person. 833 00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:37,920 Speaker 3: So his form of Batman is volunteering. 834 00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:39,600 Speaker 2: Does Bruce Wayne feel like he's a bad person? 835 00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:41,480 Speaker 3: I mean he feels like he has the white of 836 00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:42,359 Speaker 3: the sitting on the ship. 837 00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:44,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like he's he's different than I feeling 838 00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:46,600 Speaker 2: like you're a bad person. That's true. 839 00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:49,160 Speaker 1: They they they're not the same thing, but they live 840 00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:51,120 Speaker 1: in they live in a similar arena. I feel like 841 00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:55,040 Speaker 1: where he's like, I am compelled to that that I 842 00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:57,800 Speaker 1: have to do this. Yeah, well it might and not maybe, 843 00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:01,480 Speaker 1: like guilt is probably the bark, like you need the 844 00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:04,000 Speaker 1: guilt or some people have guilt as a fire that proformed. 845 00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:06,320 Speaker 2: Maybe it's like so, so Riley and I were watching 846 00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:11,200 Speaker 2: the Mister Rogers documentary together the other day and I 847 00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:14,520 Speaker 2: fell asleep like three times, but I did finish it eventually, 848 00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:17,480 Speaker 2: and Riley, I'm like, Riley, what happened? And He's like, well, yeah, 849 00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:20,640 Speaker 2: mister Rodgers kind of got mean like halfway through, and 850 00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:24,320 Speaker 2: he's silly. Well he said what he's what he framed 851 00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:26,919 Speaker 2: it as like determined, Like he was like he saw 852 00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:29,120 Speaker 2: there was just so much wrong with the world and 853 00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:33,080 Speaker 2: he was way more determined to make sure the world 854 00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:36,759 Speaker 2: was good, and in trying to do that, he was 855 00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:40,840 Speaker 2: like a little bit more mean and gruff. Is that accurate, Riley? 856 00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:41,560 Speaker 3: Yeah? 857 00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:44,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, So like he was trying to be stern to 858 00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:46,799 Speaker 1: like like I need to like make this happen, like 859 00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:48,800 Speaker 1: I need to execute the mission. 860 00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:51,960 Speaker 2: And so that wow, because. 861 00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:54,920 Speaker 4: He was like more like unforgiving towards other programs and 862 00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:56,239 Speaker 4: was like like we got to. 863 00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:59,400 Speaker 2: Get to Transformers. Shit, he hates Transformers. 864 00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:03,719 Speaker 1: Oh right, because that's not like that's just like, oh, 865 00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:06,279 Speaker 1: this is like violence quote unquote other things like this 866 00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:08,080 Speaker 1: isn't like we need to love each other, we need 867 00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:09,040 Speaker 1: to understand each other. 868 00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:12,200 Speaker 2: Wow, he wants all of the programming to be kind 869 00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:14,080 Speaker 2: of around that kind of interesting. 870 00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:15,640 Speaker 1: So and then he came to like became like a 871 00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:18,080 Speaker 1: low key, little little ruthless on that. 872 00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:21,960 Speaker 2: Wow. Fascinating and so maybe that's kind of what he 873 00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:22,719 Speaker 2: is going to. 874 00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:25,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I think I'm gonna I'm gonna say 875 00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:26,960 Speaker 1: I still think put down in the comments. 876 00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:29,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, if you think he mean Batman is Opie? 877 00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:33,360 Speaker 1: Batman is Opie still lying about something, probably cheating? Let 878 00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:35,160 Speaker 1: us know in the comments what you think below. I 879 00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:39,520 Speaker 1: think I think so I agree with you, It just. 880 00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:43,160 Speaker 2: Doesn't Maybe he thinks so differently from us that it's 881 00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:45,200 Speaker 2: it makes sense in his brain, but none of what 882 00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:47,959 Speaker 2: he did made sense to me. Yeah, So I would 883 00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:50,680 Speaker 2: love to know what you guys think. Put your answers 884 00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:54,760 Speaker 2: in the comments. And Johnny Bahami, I got another story 885 00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:55,040 Speaker 2: for you. 886 00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:58,640 Speaker 1: Uh, well, I have another story for you because it's 887 00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:03,360 Speaker 1: okay story shit boom, okay. So we were talking about, 888 00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:06,160 Speaker 1: you know, if if he had one of your gonads 889 00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:08,840 Speaker 1: pop out, you know, is that is I've heard this. 890 00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:10,879 Speaker 2: I know. I don't think Riley. 891 00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:12,600 Speaker 1: Has, so I don't I don't think. I don't think 892 00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:16,400 Speaker 1: you know what this is. So one day I'm driving 893 00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:19,479 Speaker 1: with Matt, my my good friend, Matt, friend of friend 894 00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:22,440 Speaker 1: of the house, and it's me and my girlfriend Nima 895 00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:24,319 Speaker 1: and Matt, and we're driving along. 896 00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:29,640 Speaker 2: All of a sudden, he goes and I'm like, what 897 00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:31,799 Speaker 2: is going on? I'm like asking, like, what's wrong? What's wrong? 898 00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:33,920 Speaker 1: I I make a U turn so I can go, 899 00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:36,000 Speaker 1: like pull off to the side. I'm like, something is 900 00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:38,680 Speaker 1: terrible long he's hurt. He just saw someone got hurt. 901 00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:42,239 Speaker 1: Like something is terribly wrong. He's still screaming. I make 902 00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:44,799 Speaker 1: the U turn, I pull to the side. We come 903 00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:49,000 Speaker 1: to a stop. He's still screaming. And finally, after like 904 00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:51,360 Speaker 1: another ten seconds of like being stopped and me turning around, 905 00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:51,880 Speaker 1: me like what is it? 906 00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:52,600 Speaker 2: What is it? What is it? 907 00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:55,520 Speaker 5: He's like that girl in the corner, she just lifted 908 00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:59,200 Speaker 5: up her shirt and should her booby and I was like, 909 00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:02,279 Speaker 5: I only gitimately thought you like broke your leg or 910 00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:03,479 Speaker 5: someone like got hurt. 911 00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:06,600 Speaker 2: Thought he was gonna like squash his nuts or something 912 00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:09,239 Speaker 2: on that, Yeah. 913 00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:11,160 Speaker 1: Something like that, Like, but no, he literally saw this 914 00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:15,399 Speaker 1: girl just like boom flashed everyone on the street real 915 00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:18,359 Speaker 1: quick for like a second, and he just absolutely lost 916 00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:20,759 Speaker 1: his mind. Wow, And then we just died laughing for 917 00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:26,360 Speaker 1: more boobies that listen. He's just so enthusiastic, you know that. 918 00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:29,320 Speaker 1: It's why I love him. He's just enthusiastic about everything, 919 00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:33,840 Speaker 1: either positive or negative. But Sam, I think you have 920 00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:35,080 Speaker 1: another store for me, don't you. 921 00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:37,120 Speaker 2: I do. Let's do it, Let's do it.