1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:07,760 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome back in Friday edition, hour number two. 3 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:10,680 Speaker 2: Appreciate all of you hanging out with us as we 4 00:00:10,720 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 2: are rolling through and having a good time with all 5 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 2: of you. Buck, I don't know how much attention you've 6 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:20,599 Speaker 2: ever paid to this story, but I went to I 7 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 2: think I've talked about this on the show before. I 8 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:28,480 Speaker 2: went to a public magnet school in the Nashville area 9 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:32,640 Speaker 2: for grade seven through twelve, and it was a school 10 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:35,879 Speaker 2: that was academic focus and you had to have they 11 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 2: give you like STAY nine tests or whatever. I think 12 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:42,880 Speaker 2: they called the TCAP Tennessee Comprehensive Assessment Program that you 13 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:46,519 Speaker 2: take when you're a kid, and basically it's for smart 14 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:49,240 Speaker 2: kids to the extent that I can qualify as smart 15 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 2: and seven through twelve. 16 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:56,959 Speaker 1: It changed my life in measure right. 17 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:00,280 Speaker 2: I went to public school K through twelve and I 18 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 2: got to go to this school, Martin Luther King grades 19 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 2: seven through twelve. And by the way, I think I 20 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 2: got an email this morning from one of the guidance 21 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:09,399 Speaker 2: counselors saying they're trying to do away with seventh to 22 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 2: eighth grade there, which is its own crazy story, which 23 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 2: I think is an awful idea. But there have been 24 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:19,040 Speaker 2: of late, and I don't know if you've paid a 25 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:21,319 Speaker 2: lot of attention to this, Buck, but I've kind of 26 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:23,680 Speaker 2: paid a great deal of attention to it because of 27 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 2: my own academic background. Of late, there have become attacks 28 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:34,399 Speaker 2: on high academic courses, whether it's AP courses, whether it's 29 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:40,400 Speaker 2: honors courses, whether it's the schools themselves designed for smart kids. 30 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:43,119 Speaker 1: As an attack upon equity. 31 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 2: And sometimes buckets focused on, hey, we don't have the 32 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 2: right enrollment. The AP history class is not diverse enough. 33 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 2: The people who were taken AP calculus, Oh, they don't 34 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 2: have enough of this particular minority in them. And so 35 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 2: the result is some places say you should just do 36 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 2: away with them. And I was thinking about that this 37 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 2: morning as I was getting ready for the show, and 38 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 2: I saw this headline from the Daily Mail. Chicago's progressive mayor, 39 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:22,640 Speaker 2: Brandon Johnson announced his plan to act windy cities high 40 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:29,240 Speaker 2: achieving selective enrollment high schools to boost equity, despite promising 41 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:32,519 Speaker 2: not to during an election campaign. And Buck, you grew 42 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 2: up in New York City, which is probably where all 43 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 2: this kind of started. I know, Boston has their own version. Northeast, 44 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 2: I think is where this high achievement public high school 45 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:47,360 Speaker 2: dynamic began, and those schools in both New York City 46 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 2: and Boston have also been coming under attack. Chicago, my 47 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:56,080 Speaker 2: hometown of Nashville. The idea is, oh, there's too many 48 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:59,800 Speaker 2: smart kids there, and if they don't directly reflect what 49 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:04,960 Speaker 2: the population of the enrollment is of the overall student body, 50 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 2: that we've got to tear them down. I just think 51 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 2: this is a direct attack upon the meritocracy itself. We 52 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 2: don't we want shouldn't we want smart kids to be 53 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:15,080 Speaker 2: as smart as they possibly can be. 54 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 3: This is an ongoing and it's it's fascinating how this 55 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:22,639 Speaker 3: plays out, and it's one of those one of those 56 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 3: policy issues where you see that the progressives are actually 57 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:33,240 Speaker 3: cruel in the name of diversity or cruel in the 58 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 3: name of some higher good, because instead of allowing high 59 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 3: achievement high schools or courses to exist, they get very 60 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 3: frustrated because you can't actually have these schools in high schools. 61 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 3: You know, they can't do like a college application holistic 62 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 3: nonsense where it's like, oh, the person's essay is why 63 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 3: they got in. No Actually, it's skin color, it's affirmative action. 64 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 3: It's the things that we all know that they're taking 65 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 3: into account more than anything else. But okay, you see 66 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 3: this happening. I mean, the fact that they they can't 67 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 3: change the numbers, then they go, let's just shut it down. 68 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 1: Let's shut it down. And they've done this. 69 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 3: They'll shut down schools that outperform other public. 70 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 1: Schools as a. 71 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 3: Giveaway to the teachers' unions, the thuggery of the lazy 72 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 3: and inept teachers' unions. They did that in New York City. 73 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:28,720 Speaker 3: They were trying to They're going to shut down Harlem 74 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 3: Success Academy. Young black kids out performing all of their 75 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:36,599 Speaker 3: peers of all races on statewide tests, doing phenomenally well. 76 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 3: And there was a movement under the Blasio to shut 77 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 3: down the Harlem Success Academy schools. Why well, as I said, 78 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 3: teachers union stuff. But also, you know what the centerpiece 79 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 3: of these some of these charter schools is accountability for 80 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 3: the kids and the parents. Yes, and there's another and 81 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:56,040 Speaker 3: I actually so you know you were I mean Clay's like, 82 00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 3: I mean, there's like the School for Geniuses in Tennessee. 83 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 3: I Travis, I think You might also point out that 84 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 3: some people would say a genius for kids from Tennessee 85 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 3: could be considered an oxymoron in many parts of the country. 86 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:14,919 Speaker 2: But yes, this was a like I mean, I do 87 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 2: not believe. But here's the way I'll put it to you. 88 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 2: Because I know you went to you were at a 89 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 2: really good school in New York City, a NERD school 90 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 2: for the stiches. I went to a NERD school in Nashville. 91 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:28,280 Speaker 2: Here's a good question, and I would put it this way. 92 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:31,480 Speaker 2: I was fortunate to go get a scholarship to George Washington, 93 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 2: and then I graduated from Vanderbilt Law School. I think 94 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 2: that I would not have achieved any of that if 95 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:40,480 Speaker 2: I hadn't gone to Martin Luther King seventh through twelfth grade, 96 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:42,600 Speaker 2: seventh and eighth grade, I think we're the toughest years 97 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:45,839 Speaker 2: academically for me, way tougher than college and law school. 98 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 2: And some people think that's crazy. But it was about 99 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 2: catching up. It was about determining what level of academic 100 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 2: achievement you could attain. I don't think i'd be sitting 101 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 2: here talking to you today if I hadn't been able 102 00:05:57,400 --> 00:05:58,280 Speaker 2: to go to that school. 103 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:02,360 Speaker 1: And there's another school in New York City. 104 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:03,280 Speaker 3: I mean, I want to we can get back to 105 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 3: Chicago's progressive Mayriorg just to point out here that he's 106 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:10,159 Speaker 3: going to get rid of these schools because they upset people. 107 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:11,720 Speaker 3: Think about how cruel that is. 108 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:17,799 Speaker 2: Think about a meritocracy upsets people on the left right now. 109 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:21,719 Speaker 1: But it's really it's a sore point on the left 110 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 1: because it goes to the failure of all these They 111 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 1: always do these things where. 112 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:30,039 Speaker 3: They say, if we just had better student teacher ratio, 113 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 3: if we had more resources, if we spent more money. No, 114 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:38,280 Speaker 3: what the actual data shows is do your parents show 115 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:40,719 Speaker 3: up to parent teacher night or does a parent show 116 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:43,599 Speaker 3: up to parent teacher night? Do the parents make sure 117 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:45,920 Speaker 3: the kid arrives at school on time and is picked 118 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 3: up if they're at the age where they have to 119 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 3: be picked up by an adult who is in you know, 120 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:51,920 Speaker 3: who cares for them. Do the parents check to see 121 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:54,920 Speaker 3: the kid is doing the homework? Is the kid supported 122 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:57,599 Speaker 3: in their day to day when they get home. Does 123 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 3: someone ask them about their school? Does someone eat inner 124 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:02,360 Speaker 3: with them? It doesn't have to be you know, filet 125 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 3: mignon served by a butler. Does someone sit with the 126 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:07,839 Speaker 3: child and talk to them over the dinner table about 127 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:08,240 Speaker 3: their day. 128 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 1: Nobody wants to hear that. 129 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 3: They want to hear that it's it's structural racism, or 130 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 3: they want to hear that it's systemic inequality, or they 131 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 3: want to hear whatever. 132 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 1: And one of the best laboratories. 133 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 3: Of how this elite school system plays out in the 134 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 3: whole country there's Stuyvesant High School. Now there's a lot 135 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 3: of beef between Stuyvesant and my high school, Regis because 136 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 3: we were both free schools, but we were the free 137 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 3: private school and they were obviously public, so it's free, 138 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 3: but you had to take a special test for both 139 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 3: to get in. Humble brag Clay, I got into both. 140 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 3: But I remember I showed up on on Stuyvesant test day. 141 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 3: And I'm not I'm not kidding when I say it 142 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 3: was me and a thousand or so Asian kids. 143 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, and and and now I did not super rich 144 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 1: Asian kids. 145 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 2: By the way, these are first generation the parents like 146 00:07:56,840 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 2: are engaged going to be so important. 147 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 3: They the poorst ethnicity per capita in New York City 148 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 3: of this sort of you know, of the black, white, 149 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 3: Hispanic and Asian is actually Asian. 150 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 1: They are poorer per capita, and that people. This blows 151 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 1: people's minds. 152 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 3: They cannot believe it until they look up the data 153 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 3: and they say, oh my gosh, it's actually true. 154 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 1: So it's not that there's all these rich kids, you know. 155 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 3: This isn't like the Crazy Rich Asians movie where people 156 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 3: are driving maseratis everywhere and flying on private jets. These are, 157 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 3: to your point, immigrants whose parents often speak almost no English. 158 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 3: Now Stuyvesant is just the test, there's no nothing, the 159 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 3: ultimate meritocracy. 160 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:40,959 Speaker 1: You sit down and it's just how well do you 161 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 1: score on tests? And it's like the SATs. 162 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:45,559 Speaker 3: It's sort of math and probably language arts or reading 163 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 3: or forget what they call it now it's been a 164 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 3: long time, but it's a you know, a verbal section 165 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:49,839 Speaker 3: of math section. 166 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 1: All right, Clay. This is in the New York Times. 167 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 3: By the way, this is from earlier this year, because 168 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:56,720 Speaker 3: every year we have to have the same debate, just 169 00:08:56,760 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 3: like they're having a Chicago right now. 170 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:00,119 Speaker 1: Of these seven hundred. 171 00:08:59,880 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 3: And sixty two new students admitted to Stuyvesant's elite high 172 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 3: school next year, how many are black? 173 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 2: I would bet that it is five hundred Asian, one 174 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:16,599 Speaker 2: hundred white, and you said seven hundred and eighty or 175 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 2: something like seven hundred and sixty two students, seventy five 176 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:22,840 Speaker 2: Hispanic and seventy five black. 177 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 1: If I were guessing seven, that's crazy. Seven. Yeah. 178 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 3: Now this is very upsetting, very upsetting to the Democrat 179 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:36,120 Speaker 3: administration of New York City. 180 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 1: Very upsetting too. 181 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 3: You have to remember, Clay, I mean, I had a 182 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 3: friend who was a teacher in one of these, like 183 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 3: one of these they call them like Renaissance schools, and 184 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:46,600 Speaker 3: she says that, you know, all it's all the computers 185 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:48,319 Speaker 3: are brand new, and there's so much money, and there's 186 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 3: so much tax dollars and all this stuff. They haven't 187 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 3: budged the test scores for black and Hispanic students in 188 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 3: the public school system in forty years. 189 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 1: They can't do it. 190 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 3: Now, Harlem Success Academy could Charter school systems have had success. 191 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 3: It's not that it can't happen, but the system that 192 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 3: they are operating in overall does not work. And so 193 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 3: there's just this this year in and year out debate, and 194 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:19,560 Speaker 3: you know what they want to do. They want to 195 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:24,840 Speaker 3: make Stuyvesant a random lottery school because then it's like, well, 196 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 3: everybody gets a shot. But the point is Stuyvesant is 197 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:30,320 Speaker 3: only Stuyvesant, and by the way, fierce debate rival, so 198 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 3: I kind of want to talk some trash about them. 199 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:34,559 Speaker 3: We were like, you know, like the Sharks and the 200 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 3: Jets from West Side story that was Regis and Stuyvesant 201 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 3: in debate. 202 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 1: Does it get nerdier than this, folk, No, it does not. 203 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 3: I mean you can see the pocket protectors right now, 204 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:45,720 Speaker 3: those you're listening to us on radio across the country. 205 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:49,720 Speaker 3: But they always want to try to shut it down 206 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 3: because it is just a it's a thumb in the 207 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 3: eye of the whole system and all the spending and 208 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:59,400 Speaker 3: all the money, and it also goes to the meritocracy. 209 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:00,240 Speaker 1: You actually see this. 210 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:03,960 Speaker 3: Why are only seven black students getting into Stuyvesant this year? 211 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 3: What is going on? I mean, I think the New 212 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:10,560 Speaker 3: York City, I'm guessing. I think it's like thirty percent, 213 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:12,600 Speaker 3: maybe African American I have to check on that. 214 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 1: Probably higher than that for public school enrollment too. But 215 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 1: that is the point. Here is your peer. 216 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 2: Group, and this is my one bit of parenting advice 217 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 2: to the extent that I have any your peer group, 218 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 2: that is the peer group of your kids is insanely 219 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:35,359 Speaker 2: important when it comes to determining what their overall academic 220 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 2: success will be. And if you are like Buck and 221 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 2: I were surrounded by nerdy kids who care about academics, 222 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:46,200 Speaker 2: especially as you hit adolescents, you are more likely to 223 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 2: achieve at a high level than if you were surrounded 224 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:50,839 Speaker 2: by people who don't care about academics at all. 225 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 3: And you know, we have doctor Carol Swain coming out. 226 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 3: We're talking to her, and you know she's gonna talk 227 00:11:57,280 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 3: to us about Harvard president. The Harvard president Gay wanted 228 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 3: Roland Friar Junior fired and d tenured. 229 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 1: And fired, which is like impossible to do normally. 230 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 3: But Clay the reason in part was his his data 231 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 3: crunching on white and Asian kids get more friends as 232 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 3: they are more successful in school. Black and Latino kids, 233 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:26,680 Speaker 3: and actually Latino kids more than Black kids, according to 234 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:32,200 Speaker 3: his data, lose friends as their grades and their test 235 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 3: scores improve. What is going again, just looking at the numbers, 236 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 3: that was sacrilege for this tenured you know, really kind 237 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:45,200 Speaker 3: of like hot shot professor at Harvard to put that 238 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:48,600 Speaker 3: out there and think about the culture that you're creating 239 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 3: for young black and Hispanic kids. That when they dominate academically, 240 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 3: they have less of a good social circle around them. 241 00:12:56,160 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 3: I mean, that's brutal, the opposite of what should happen. 242 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 3: We should just you know, it really helps you shut 243 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:01,679 Speaker 3: it all down. 244 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 1: And just say that it's all racism and never fix anything. 245 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:06,320 Speaker 3: That's what the Democrats do, and throw more money at 246 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 3: it and tax you more and say that it's no 247 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:11,080 Speaker 3: one's fault. There's no accountability for anybody. And you know, 248 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:13,040 Speaker 3: if people need to pay their fair share taxes, it 249 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:15,199 Speaker 3: would all get better. 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Visit PHX on 264 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:04,440 Speaker 3: air dot com Today Making. 265 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:08,439 Speaker 1: Sense in an Insane World Clay Travis and Buck Sexton, 266 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 1: all right, welcome back everybody. 267 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 3: I gotta tell you, I didn't think we'd be talking 268 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:14,960 Speaker 3: about Moby so much on the show. 269 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 1: I didn't think that was gonna happen. But a good 270 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:21,920 Speaker 1: time of being mob Moby Stock. Moby Stock has surged. 271 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 3: Produce, producer ally and Moby go way back as we 272 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 3: as we have discussed here on the show. I think 273 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 3: we're probably helping some some CDs with play, which is 274 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 3: I think his album that went you know, many times 275 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 3: platinum or whatever in the nineties, probably selling some CDs 276 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 3: on Ebaye by talking about this. But Clay, he he 277 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 3: has become a a stalwart defender. 278 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 1: Who would have thought, you know that. 279 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:51,440 Speaker 3: He would have become a stalwart defender of Hunter Biden 280 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:54,480 Speaker 3: and a and a critic a critic. This is from 281 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 3: his Hunter Biden interview. This dropped today though, So this 282 00:14:57,000 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 3: is a new part of it. He's a critic of 283 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 3: all these so called christian's passing judgment on Hunter Biden 284 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 3: play this one. 285 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 4: This right wing media especially has portrayed him as some 286 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:14,160 Speaker 4: sort of strange Fengali criminal demon, and I just can't 287 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:19,280 Speaker 4: reconcile that with my friend from recovery who sits in 288 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:23,520 Speaker 4: his garage drinking instant coffee and painting pictures of hummingbirds. 289 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 4: It's also been incredibly confusing watching spiritual people indulge in judgment, 290 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 4: because I am passingly familiar with a lot of the 291 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 4: world's spiritual traditions, even the more secular ones, and I 292 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 4: don't know of any of them that call on us 293 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 4: to judge strangers. 294 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:54,680 Speaker 3: This sophism or sophistry is of a particular You can 295 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:58,240 Speaker 3: see this frequently on the Left play, where to defend 296 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 3: certain people, they'll pull out the oh, if you were 297 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 3: really a Christian, you wouldn't judge this person, and then, 298 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:04,960 Speaker 3: without missing a beat, a moment later they'd be like, 299 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 3: how Gary, you support Trump? 300 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 1: He's worse than Hitler. Just it's such a joke. There's 301 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 1: such a joke, Moby Well. 302 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 2: I mean, first of all, to build on producer Ali's 303 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 2: connection to Moby like she actually has a picture with 304 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 2: Moby from back in the nineties like. 305 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 1: This on the website, because that's up on the website 306 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 1: right now. 307 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 2: I mean, that's all of a sudden, Ali, I mean, Ali, 308 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 2: defend your boy. You and Moby were tight back in 309 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 2: the nineties in the East Village. Does that sound like 310 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:38,480 Speaker 2: the Moby you knew, guy who just wants everybody to 311 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 2: drink instant coffee paint in their garage and no judgment anywhere. 312 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:44,520 Speaker 1: Oh my god, you guys are so exaggerating. 313 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 2: I heard that Mobi actually didn't ask Ali out buck. 314 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 2: I heard he dropped down on one knee ast to marriage. 315 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:55,080 Speaker 2: Oh and you know what, based on the pictures of 316 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 2: Ali and Moby back in the nineties, I mean, Moby 317 00:16:57,480 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 2: would have been out kicking his coverage. I mean, I 318 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 2: don't blame him for going all in on producer Alley 319 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 2: when she was the bartender back in the East Village 320 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 2: with the Schlitz. 321 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:08,880 Speaker 1: What beer for five dollars or whatever you got yourself? 322 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:13,479 Speaker 3: Did you ever successfully ask a bartender or server at 323 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:15,720 Speaker 3: any kind of established west or a phone number? 324 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 1: Have you ever been able to do it? 325 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 5: Well? 326 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 2: I'm really this is going in a direction you probably 327 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 2: didn't expect. 328 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 1: I have gotten a. 329 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:24,080 Speaker 2: Stripper's phone number before, which I think is probably even 330 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 2: more impressive. Is that more impressive or less impressive? 331 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:28,320 Speaker 1: I didn't know where we're going. 332 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 2: To go, Well, I don't. I don't remember getting a bartenders. 333 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 2: I don't remember there being that many cute bartenders in 334 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:37,879 Speaker 2: my experience. 335 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:41,480 Speaker 3: For me, it was more events. Sometimes the event staff 336 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:43,320 Speaker 3: if you went to like honestly it's gonna sound kind 337 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:45,439 Speaker 3: of but like really high end charity events, even in 338 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 3: New York, the event staff would be models in New York. Yeah, 339 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:51,439 Speaker 3: so that that doesn't shock me. I definitely, I definitely 340 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 3: got a You would have been so proud of me. 341 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 3: I definitely got a phone number once. This is like 342 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:58,000 Speaker 3: I don't know, fifteen years ago from just a true 343 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:00,800 Speaker 3: it was a fake phone number, Clay, I got Bake, I. 344 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 1: Got big phone numbered by the event staff. I'm moonlighted 345 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:06,720 Speaker 1: as a cater waiter, so I know that scene too. 346 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:10,679 Speaker 2: But in the meantime, traveling overseas holiday season, like I 347 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:13,879 Speaker 2: am puretalk as you covered. Because they just added international 348 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:19,160 Speaker 2: roaming in thirty countries this year. 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Again, dial pound two five 362 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:59,160 Speaker 2: zero say Clay and buck to start saving on wireless now. 363 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:03,920 Speaker 3: Governor Christie, former governor of New Jersey, is with US now, sir, 364 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 3: thanks thanks for calling in. 365 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:07,880 Speaker 5: Okay, thanks for having me on Zalas appreciate it. 366 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:10,200 Speaker 3: At this point, a lot of people, I think would 367 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:13,159 Speaker 3: assume the first question that you'd be asked would be 368 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:15,280 Speaker 3: something similar to I believe what Megan Kelly asked in 369 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:17,600 Speaker 3: the debate, which is, given your numbers and how things 370 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:20,119 Speaker 3: are going, why are you still in the race. Why 371 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:21,879 Speaker 3: aren't you endorsing somebody else. 372 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 5: Well, Because at this point in New Hampshire, which is 373 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 5: the first place where folks get to vote in the primary, 374 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 5: I'm only four points behind Nicky Haley in second place, 375 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:37,320 Speaker 5: the only of two people in double digits there besides 376 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 5: Donald Trump. And there's five weeks to go in this race, 377 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 5: and so we've got a lot of work still to do, 378 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 5: and we think we're going to do very very well 379 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:47,359 Speaker 5: in New Hampshire and then move on from there to 380 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:48,600 Speaker 5: South Carolina in Michigan. 381 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:51,400 Speaker 2: Last time you were on with US Governor, you said 382 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:54,320 Speaker 2: you would have made the catch that Marquez Valdez Scandling 383 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:56,680 Speaker 2: would have. You said, you've been there, you'd have made 384 00:19:56,720 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 2: the catch. I bet you would have lined up on 385 00:19:58,800 --> 00:19:59,480 Speaker 2: sides too. 386 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 1: So the chiefs. 387 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:03,640 Speaker 2: It seems to be a theme here that chiefs receivers 388 00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:05,320 Speaker 2: have screwed up and then you come on the show. 389 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:10,480 Speaker 2: But I wanted I wanted to dive into that in 390 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:13,199 Speaker 2: particular there with you. You said the last time you 391 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:15,359 Speaker 2: were on, I think it was right before Thanksgiving, that 392 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:18,639 Speaker 2: if you did decide to drop out, you would endorse 393 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:21,639 Speaker 2: Nicky Haley or Ron DeSantis, that you wouldn't support the 394 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:24,720 Speaker 2: Veke and certainly you're not going to support Donald Trump. 395 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 2: I think everybody knows that. It seems to me that 396 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 2: you have chosen. When I watched the debate down in Tuscaloosa, 397 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:34,479 Speaker 2: it felt to me like you were allied with Nicky Haley. 398 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 2: Is it fair to say that Nicky Haley would be 399 00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 2: your choice in the event you drop out? Have you 400 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 2: made a decision about which of those two you would 401 00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:44,880 Speaker 2: support in the event you withdrew? 402 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:48,480 Speaker 5: No, I haven't. And look, you know, people always look 403 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:52,880 Speaker 5: at things cynically. Then I understand why, given the state 404 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:56,359 Speaker 5: of politics today. But because I defended Nicky Haley on 405 00:20:56,400 --> 00:21:00,919 Speaker 5: the debate stage from the veks really juveniles back. People 406 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:03,320 Speaker 5: think that somehow that makes me aligned with Nicky Haley. 407 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:06,600 Speaker 5: What it makes me aligned with is is common courtesy. 408 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 5: You know, When a thirty eight year old guy on 409 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:14,320 Speaker 5: that stage compares his son, a three year old son's 410 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:18,520 Speaker 5: intellect to the intellect of Nicky Haley and does so unfavorably, 411 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 5: I'm sorry. I just wasn't going to stand there and 412 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 5: let him get away with that. He hasn't shown respect 413 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:26,879 Speaker 5: to anybody on that stage over the course of the 414 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:30,200 Speaker 5: last four debates, and at that point I just had enough. 415 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:32,399 Speaker 5: So I would have done the same thing if he 416 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:34,399 Speaker 5: had done it to Ronda Sampis Gunnar Christie. 417 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 3: I wanted to ask you, you know, I remember back 418 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:38,840 Speaker 3: when you were New Jersey governor, and you know, on 419 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:41,640 Speaker 3: the tea party days, you really made a national name 420 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 3: for yourself by standing up to the Teachers' Union bullies, right, 421 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:48,960 Speaker 3: I mean, and they're bullies, they are, and they don't 422 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 3: care about the kids. And that's how, you know, you 423 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:55,600 Speaker 3: became really a household name outside of New Jersey. And 424 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 3: and you know, I still I remember watching those clips, 425 00:21:57,760 --> 00:21:59,160 Speaker 3: and you know, I, along with a lot of others, 426 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:02,440 Speaker 3: were cheering for you because it seemed like, well rather, 427 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:06,359 Speaker 3: I believe then you really understood in that case who 428 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 3: the you know, the enemy might be too strong a term, 429 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:11,879 Speaker 3: but you know you understood who needed to get you know, 430 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:13,520 Speaker 3: smacked around a little bit, so to speak in a 431 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:16,720 Speaker 3: New Jersey style. Now, when we see you on stage, 432 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:20,000 Speaker 3: it feels to me, and I've gotten other people, you know, 433 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:22,679 Speaker 3: listening to the show, they write in about this, that 434 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:26,679 Speaker 3: all of your ire is directed towards not you know, 435 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:29,160 Speaker 3: the people that are pushing for the wide open border, 436 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:32,600 Speaker 3: and not the people that are supporting Soros prosecutor style 437 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 3: policies and cities and states all across the country, and 438 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:38,320 Speaker 3: not the thirty three trillion dollars in debt, spenders, et cetera. 439 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:41,479 Speaker 3: Not the radical left and all this but Donald Trump, 440 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:44,120 Speaker 3: and I just feel like that that's something that if 441 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:46,240 Speaker 3: I were running a debate, I want to ask you, 442 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:50,240 Speaker 3: why are all the punches directed in Trump's direction and 443 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:54,160 Speaker 3: not at the radical left enemies we have who are 444 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 3: really hurting this country and hurting working folks, folks and 445 00:22:57,080 --> 00:22:59,680 Speaker 3: people that you know you're supposed to be championing. 446 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 5: Well, certainly if you listen to everything that I say, 447 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:05,320 Speaker 5: that's not the case. But what I will say is this, 448 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:08,200 Speaker 5: when we're looking at the thirty three trillion dollars in debt, 449 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:11,159 Speaker 5: eight trillion of it was racked up by Donald Trump 450 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 5: in four years, the largest amount of debt ever racked 451 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:16,199 Speaker 5: up by a president four years in the history of 452 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 5: this country. And that came from a guy who said 453 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:20,400 Speaker 5: he was going to balance the budget in four years. 454 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:22,679 Speaker 5: You know, when we're talking about debt, it's that I 455 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:27,359 Speaker 5: have continued and did in debate two directly go after 456 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:30,360 Speaker 5: the teachers union and go after Randy Winingarten and Jill 457 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:33,679 Speaker 5: Biden directly on the border. I'm the only one who 458 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 5: has come up with a plan to try to deal 459 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:39,879 Speaker 5: with the border beside, you know, shoot them stone cold dead, 460 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:43,200 Speaker 5: or build a wall and have Mexico pay for it, 461 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:46,679 Speaker 5: which we got lied to about eight years ago. You know. 462 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:49,399 Speaker 5: So if you look at these issues, I've talked about 463 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 5: all of them. I've been the one who has stood 464 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:53,600 Speaker 5: up and given a plan on how we deterred China 465 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:58,480 Speaker 5: by expanding our submarine capability, and it's been reviewed by 466 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:01,440 Speaker 5: defense experts. Thing with the old person who answered the 467 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:05,240 Speaker 5: question directly, I did the very same thing when I 468 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:08,640 Speaker 5: was asked about what's going on in our educational system, 469 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:12,159 Speaker 5: and then I'm for educational choice for every parent in 470 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 5: this country and I dismantled as a partner of education 471 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 5: to do it. So I've said all of those things. 472 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:21,080 Speaker 5: But the reason everyone remembers to Donald Trump stuff more 473 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:23,840 Speaker 5: particularly is because I'm the only one up there telling 474 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:26,400 Speaker 5: the truth about what we're facing. We have a guy 475 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:29,520 Speaker 5: who's going on trial this spring who very well will 476 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:33,479 Speaker 5: be convicted because his own chief of staff, Mark Meadows, 477 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:36,119 Speaker 5: is now going to testify against him, and he could be. 478 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:38,640 Speaker 3: An Okay, Governor Christy, I got ask you this because 479 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 3: you've said this before on the show. Donald Trump is 480 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:44,119 Speaker 3: almost eighty years old. He's facing four felony indictments in 481 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:46,960 Speaker 3: different jurisdictions, the first felony indictments he's ever faced in 482 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:49,399 Speaker 3: his entire life. They all are happening in an election year. 483 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:51,080 Speaker 3: They were held for years, so it can happen in 484 00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:54,000 Speaker 3: this election year. Are these political prosecutions? 485 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:56,480 Speaker 5: I think the one in New York is a political prosecution, 486 00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:58,960 Speaker 5: and I think the one in Atlanta I would not 487 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:01,520 Speaker 5: have brought if I were the prosecutor, I wouldn't have 488 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:05,520 Speaker 5: brought that case against him, in particular because he had 489 00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:08,879 Speaker 5: already been indicted for that federally by Jack Smith and 490 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 5: the Department of Justice. But I think the two from 491 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:16,360 Speaker 5: the Department of Justice have absolute evidence behind them, and 492 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:18,440 Speaker 5: you could see it both in the in the confidential 493 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:20,520 Speaker 5: documents case. And by the way, if you want to 494 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:23,040 Speaker 5: talk about the delay in the confidential documents case, you 495 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 5: know what was caused. Who caused the delay? Donald Trump, 496 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 5: who for a year and a half refused to return 497 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:29,400 Speaker 5: the document. 498 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:33,280 Speaker 1: Would you would well you were a US attorney. 499 00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:35,200 Speaker 2: Sorry to cut you off, but you were just saying 500 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:37,879 Speaker 2: you wouldn't have You wouldn't have brought the case in 501 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:40,280 Speaker 2: in New York or in Atlanta. 502 00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:42,320 Speaker 1: Those are both state correct cases. 503 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:45,439 Speaker 2: If you were a federal prosecutor, would you have brought 504 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:49,359 Speaker 2: the cases that Jack Smith has brought both in DC 505 00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:52,479 Speaker 2: and in South Florida, you would have charged Trump. 506 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:55,439 Speaker 5: Absolutely. I would have charged them in both. On the 507 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:59,040 Speaker 5: documents case. It is so clear that he will be 508 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 5: convicted there based upon me. 509 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:03,080 Speaker 1: Just let me just sorry. 510 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 2: I agree, we've been analyzed that, but I'm just kind 511 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:09,119 Speaker 2: of curious. You're you're a prosecutor US attorney. For a 512 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:13,560 Speaker 2: long time, no one has ever charged a former president, 513 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:17,919 Speaker 2: certainly not a presidential candidate in two hundred and forty 514 00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 2: years of United States history. To me, in order to 515 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:25,439 Speaker 2: break that precedent of never having done it before, it 516 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:30,560 Speaker 2: seems pretty aggressive and I think personally a poor, awful precedent, 517 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:33,199 Speaker 2: regardless of what you think of Trump, to try to 518 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:37,920 Speaker 2: put the leading presidential contender right now going up against 519 00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 2: the sitting president in prison for the rest of his life. 520 00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 5: Aren't you? 521 00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:45,200 Speaker 2: Are you not troubled by that precedent being set, because 522 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:47,959 Speaker 2: whether you think about Trump, it's unlikely that he's going 523 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,280 Speaker 2: to be the last guy to face criminal charges once 524 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:51,440 Speaker 2: you cross that rubicon. 525 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:56,399 Speaker 5: I'm more troubled by his conduct. And there's no way 526 00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:58,840 Speaker 5: that we can permit in this country for someone to 527 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:01,600 Speaker 5: commit crimes while they're in the White House and and 528 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:05,560 Speaker 5: then say, if I declare for president again, you can't 529 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:09,600 Speaker 5: prosecute me because I'm running for president again, And I'm sorry. 530 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:12,120 Speaker 5: That doesn't put you above the law. There's no one 531 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:15,240 Speaker 5: in this country who was above the law, absolutely no one. 532 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:19,879 Speaker 5: And the fact is that Donald Trump caused the confidential 533 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:24,080 Speaker 5: documents case himself. If he had returned those documents at 534 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:26,960 Speaker 5: any time in the year and a half. They were 535 00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:32,840 Speaker 5: asking him privately, quietly by letter with his lawyers, without 536 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:36,200 Speaker 5: even a subpoena being issued. Then they issued a subpoena. 537 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:38,520 Speaker 5: He refused to do that, and we now have his 538 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:41,040 Speaker 5: lawyers I'm claire to say they told him it was 539 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:41,760 Speaker 5: going to be a crime. 540 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:44,239 Speaker 3: Like the court obviously is now gonna they're gonna look 541 00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:46,560 Speaker 3: at this because the president, President Trump is saying that 542 00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:49,320 Speaker 3: he's covered by the Presidential Records Act, and this might 543 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:54,800 Speaker 3: be adjudicated if it's actually based a court. But listen, 544 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:58,360 Speaker 3: hold on a second. I'm not saying he's right, no way, 545 00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:01,120 Speaker 3: but to know I'm I'm not saying he's right or wrong. 546 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 3: I'm just saying that that's the defense that his legal 547 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:03,920 Speaker 3: team is going to mount. 548 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:06,000 Speaker 5: Right, Yeah, and it's wrong. 549 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:08,320 Speaker 3: Okay, Well, I know you think so, I'm telling you, 550 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:10,679 Speaker 3: but I wanted to ask you though, speaking of of 551 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:13,159 Speaker 3: the of you know, your sense of what's going on 552 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:15,119 Speaker 3: here legally and otherwise. We have one war for you here, 553 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:16,840 Speaker 3: Governor Christlper. Then we actually want to get to something. 554 00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:19,600 Speaker 3: We're going to hold you actually because we we we 555 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:21,840 Speaker 3: we're finding this to be a fruitful exchange. 556 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:25,200 Speaker 1: So if you can stay with this fronother segment really quickly, do. 557 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:28,200 Speaker 3: You think that there are not all but are there 558 00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:31,760 Speaker 3: some January sixth prisoners or you know, people that have 559 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:35,280 Speaker 3: been have been convicted who were treated unfairly before trial 560 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:38,480 Speaker 3: and have been treated unduly harshly after in terms of 561 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:39,160 Speaker 3: their sentencing. 562 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:44,680 Speaker 5: Look, I think the sentencing in this was was very 563 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 5: very severe. Now I also think what happened on January 564 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 5: sixth was very severe, and so you know, I'd have 565 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:53,480 Speaker 5: to look at each of those individual cases, and to 566 00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:56,040 Speaker 5: be honest, I haven't looked at the sentence and done 567 00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:57,880 Speaker 5: comparisons to all of the people. 568 00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:02,000 Speaker 3: Come on, they held They held people for over a 569 00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:05,040 Speaker 3: year in solitary without them even getting their day in court. 570 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:09,760 Speaker 5: Look, the fact of the matter is that people are 571 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:12,760 Speaker 5: held all the time in this country without that. 572 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:15,480 Speaker 2: Do you think there was an insurrection? Do you think 573 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:16,400 Speaker 2: it was an insurrection? 574 00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:17,720 Speaker 5: I think it was a riot. 575 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:19,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean we agree that it was a riot. 576 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:23,600 Speaker 2: But but I mean it's in order to hold somebody, 577 00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:26,920 Speaker 2: you know this, in order to hold somebody in solitary confinement, 578 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:30,800 Speaker 2: you have to believe that they are a direct, legitimate threat. 579 00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:33,160 Speaker 1: You know, the criteria far better than Buck and I would. 580 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:34,160 Speaker 1: I can't imagine that. 581 00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:37,320 Speaker 2: You think some guy walking around, uh, you know, dressed 582 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:40,920 Speaker 2: as a caveman inside of the US capital is in 583 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:42,480 Speaker 2: danger of toppling the country? 584 00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 5: Well, I don't think he was held in solitary, but. 585 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:48,720 Speaker 2: Right, but guys like that were, well, we got to 586 00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:49,080 Speaker 2: come back. 587 00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:50,480 Speaker 1: Can you come back with this come back? 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Yeah, you agree 625 00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:39,240 Speaker 1: with that, governor and we agree. 626 00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:41,680 Speaker 2: By the way, would you have totally not serious before 627 00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:44,280 Speaker 2: we play a serious clip for you? Would you have 628 00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:48,440 Speaker 2: thrown the flag on the chiefs receiver for lining up 629 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:51,640 Speaker 2: off sides offensively at the end of that game? Or 630 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:54,200 Speaker 2: would you have let that go because it's not that 631 00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:56,520 Speaker 2: material to the outcome of the play or the game. 632 00:31:56,840 --> 00:32:00,600 Speaker 5: Well for you throw the penalty flag because off sides. 633 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:03,280 Speaker 5: He was clearly offsides, and you don't know what the 634 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:05,480 Speaker 5: results of the play is going to be. The result 635 00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:06,960 Speaker 5: of the place could have been incomplete, it could have 636 00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:08,720 Speaker 5: been a sack. You got to throw it when you 637 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:12,040 Speaker 5: see it. And look, it's easy those receivers that have 638 00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:15,480 Speaker 5: to check with the line judge to see if they're 639 00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:17,760 Speaker 5: on sides or not. And the line touge levis him 640 00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:21,320 Speaker 5: as a typical chief dopey receiver. He didn't do it, 641 00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:24,640 Speaker 5: and he wanted the course of his team the game. 642 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:27,080 Speaker 2: All Right, we've got a clip we want to play 643 00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:29,320 Speaker 2: for you, and then I'm gonna ask you a question 644 00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:30,840 Speaker 2: right after it, but I want to make sure our 645 00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:35,479 Speaker 2: crew hears it. This is the fourth GOP debate about 646 00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:40,880 Speaker 2: transgender transitions for kids, cut twenty three. I'll let you 647 00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:43,680 Speaker 2: listen to it to here's Chris Christy on the stage 648 00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:44,440 Speaker 2: in Tuscalusa. 649 00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:48,600 Speaker 6: Republicans believe in less government, not more, in less involvement 650 00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:52,000 Speaker 6: with government, not more, in government involvement in people's lives. 651 00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:52,840 Speaker 5: And you know, what Megan. 652 00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:56,520 Speaker 6: I trust parents, and we're out there saying that we 653 00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:59,800 Speaker 6: should empower parents in education, we should empower parents to 654 00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:02,000 Speaker 6: make more decisions about where their kids go to school. 655 00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:05,160 Speaker 6: I agree we should empower parents to be teaching the 656 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:08,480 Speaker 6: values that they believe in in their homes without the 657 00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:11,840 Speaker 6: government telling them what those values should be. And yet 658 00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:13,960 Speaker 6: we want to take other parental rights away. 659 00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:14,960 Speaker 5: I'm sorry. 660 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:18,040 Speaker 6: As a father of four, I believe there is no 661 00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:21,440 Speaker 6: one who loves my children more than me, and I 662 00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:24,920 Speaker 6: get to make the decisions about my children, not anybody else. 663 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:27,720 Speaker 6: In every parent out there, who's Washington night. You start 664 00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:29,920 Speaker 6: to turn over just a little bit of this authority, 665 00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:31,320 Speaker 6: the authority they're going to take. 666 00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:34,240 Speaker 2: From you next, you're not gonna like, okay, Governor, I've 667 00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:37,640 Speaker 2: got three kids, you've got four. So I think parents 668 00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:40,640 Speaker 2: out there have a variety of opinions. Mine are all miners. 669 00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:43,040 Speaker 2: And I just want to give you a hypothetical. I 670 00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:47,280 Speaker 2: couldn't take my kids right now and get them a tattoo. 671 00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:49,680 Speaker 2: Now leave aside the fact that my wife would murder 672 00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:51,920 Speaker 2: me if I did it, right, But let's pretend that 673 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:55,400 Speaker 2: I took my eight year old to a tattoo parlor 674 00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:57,200 Speaker 2: right now, And I said, I think it's in the 675 00:33:57,200 --> 00:34:02,320 Speaker 2: best interest for him to get a tattoo or something. 676 00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:02,560 Speaker 5: Right. 677 00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:06,760 Speaker 2: I also couldn't take my kid to a bar and 678 00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:10,560 Speaker 2: get him a beer, even if I thought, hey, he's ready, 679 00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:14,239 Speaker 2: he can have wine. Whatever else, parents have restrictions on them. 680 00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:17,759 Speaker 2: I don't believe any child under eighteen should be able 681 00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:20,919 Speaker 2: to have gender adjustment surgery in any way. I think 682 00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:24,120 Speaker 2: that should be a prohibition. If you can't get tattoos 683 00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:27,800 Speaker 2: and you can't get beer. Don't we restrict parent rights 684 00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:30,160 Speaker 2: all the time to protect kids. Why is it right 685 00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:32,960 Speaker 2: to allow, you know, at fourteen year old to get 686 00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:34,000 Speaker 2: her boobs shopped off. 687 00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:38,520 Speaker 5: Well, look, you're making a comparison, I think, quite frankly, 688 00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:43,879 Speaker 5: is not act. They make those rules. They don't say 689 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:47,479 Speaker 5: parents can't take their children for a beer. They say 690 00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:51,080 Speaker 5: anyone under the age of eighteen can't get a beer, 691 00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:53,960 Speaker 5: whether he walks into the bar on his own or 692 00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:55,520 Speaker 5: whether he walks into it's. 693 00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:56,560 Speaker 1: Under twenty one, as we know. 694 00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:58,799 Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, and by the way, I agree with that, 695 00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:01,319 Speaker 2: and i'd have the same a lot for anybody under 696 00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:03,279 Speaker 2: eighteen one and general assignment if you want to be 697 00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:03,880 Speaker 2: over eighteen. 698 00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:05,759 Speaker 1: You can do it. We got one minute, governor, so 699 00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:07,840 Speaker 1: go ahead. How is this not apples to apples? 700 00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:11,960 Speaker 5: So my point, my point is that we are now 701 00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:15,160 Speaker 5: invading into the house, and we're letting government invade into 702 00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:18,480 Speaker 5: the house on all kinds of different issues. And I 703 00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:19,960 Speaker 5: don't believe we should add to it. 704 00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:21,280 Speaker 1: Well, but no, a governor. 705 00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:23,720 Speaker 3: I mean, if it said to me, hold on a second, 706 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:25,880 Speaker 3: if someone said, hey, you know, I just think that 707 00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:28,360 Speaker 3: at disciplining my kid with a belt and you know, 708 00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:30,080 Speaker 3: hitting them with it is good, I don't think it's 709 00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:30,680 Speaker 3: child abuse. 710 00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:32,840 Speaker 1: The state doesn't say, yeah, we don't want to interfere. 711 00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:36,320 Speaker 5: And so what you're telling me is that every time 712 00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:40,520 Speaker 5: a parent spanks a child, there that they're subject to arrest. 713 00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:42,760 Speaker 5: I don't think that's what goes on in this country 714 00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:44,799 Speaker 5: right now. And that's why I think people who are 715 00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:48,560 Speaker 5: making these type of comparisons are not making apple comparisons. 716 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:51,479 Speaker 5: The fact of the matter is you've got to either 717 00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:53,160 Speaker 5: stands up for parental rights. 718 00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:56,320 Speaker 1: Or not, and the next time you don't, then you're. 719 00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:58,160 Speaker 5: Gonna wind up having the government come in and say 720 00:35:58,200 --> 00:35:59,920 Speaker 5: you can't do something with your children. 721 00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:02,840 Speaker 3: Wait, I tell you, we are we are both not 722 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:04,279 Speaker 3: sold on this position at all. 723 00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:07,400 Speaker 1: Government. I think you can't get a tattoo under eighteen. 724 00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:10,520 Speaker 3: Uh, you shouldn't be able to get gender mutilation for 725 00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:12,480 Speaker 3: twelve year olds is something that we would think that 726 00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:13,800 Speaker 3: all conservatives could oppose. 727 00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:15,479 Speaker 1: But sir, I don't, I don't wanna. 728 00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:17,359 Speaker 3: I don't wanna sand bag you here at the end, 729 00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:20,680 Speaker 3: so we'll just we're gonna leave it with it. We 730 00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:23,000 Speaker 3: got like ten seconds go ahead yet. 731 00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:25,200 Speaker 5: All right, but guys, look, you know, if you're not 732 00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:27,239 Speaker 5: for parental rights, then I get that you guys are 733 00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:28,320 Speaker 5: not for parental rights. 734 00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:29,440 Speaker 1: I am okay. 735 00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:32,200 Speaker 3: So he's gonna sand bag us, all right, Governor Christy, 736 00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:34,759 Speaker 3: everybody we gave him a say, Governor, appreciate you. 737 00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:35,120 Speaker 1: Coming on. 738 00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:36,680 Speaker 3: We'll talk to you again. We're gonna fight with you 739 00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:38,120 Speaker 3: again next time. We'll see you next time.