Speaker 1: If you thought four hours a day, minutes a week
Speaker 1: was enough, I think again. He's the last remnants of
Speaker 1: the old republic, a sole fashion of fairness. He treats
Speaker 1: crackheads in the ghetto cutter the same as the rich
Speaker 1: pill poppers in the penthouse. The Clearinghouse of Hot takes
Speaker 1: break free for something special. The fifth Hour with Ben
Speaker 1: Mallar starts right now. That it does is we are
Speaker 1: in the air everywhere, the vast power of the I
Speaker 1: Heart podcast network available as you know by now, because
Speaker 1: you've you've found the podcast, you've stumbled onto the podcast
Speaker 1: that is available wherever you get your podcast. Because four
Speaker 1: hours on the overnight or not and off eight days
Speaker 1: a week, we do this podcast. This podcast drops on
Speaker 1: depending on what day is wet Friday, we got a podcast. Uh,
Speaker 1: today is a Saturday. So yesterday we had hacks all
Speaker 1: critically acclaimed interview with Lee Haxall Hamilt's one radio legend
Speaker 1: from San Diego from bad the Canadian rockies Love Tax
Speaker 1: thought was great. We appreciate him coming on. But we
Speaker 1: got one on Sunday as well. So it's eight days
Speaker 1: a week. We get two on Friday with the radio
Speaker 1: show and joined again, for better or worse by the
Speaker 1: man affectionately known in the highways and hallway Highways the
Speaker 1: hallways of Fox Sports Radio as gag On David gascon Man.
Speaker 1: It's uh long time coming. One day has passed, but
Speaker 1: I did my God's I did God's work for at
Speaker 1: least one day, Ben Maller, and uh, I will wait
Speaker 1: for you to eloquently and politely acknowledge what you're gonna
Speaker 1: be doing over the weekend here the next couple of moments.
Speaker 1: Oh so you're you You would like that right now
Speaker 1: as I as you gonna get to that letter. But
Speaker 1: I can do that now if you want. No. No,
Speaker 1: But you know what, I was just thinking about this
Speaker 1: um earlier in the week because I was driving the studio.
Speaker 1: I noticed two things. Uh One, there was a ton
Speaker 1: of traffic, and as I got to the studio, too,
Speaker 1: there was no sign of of Ben Maller. I'm kind
Speaker 1: of curious, like everybody else coming back to work won't
Speaker 1: even get your ass in the studio. Uh well, I
Speaker 1: am really following the guidelines of management, and they've not
Speaker 1: asked me to come back. I did go down there
Speaker 1: to pick up some mail. If I had to have
Speaker 1: to go back because Doc Mike sent me a book
Speaker 1: about piss so I guess I've got to pick that up,
Speaker 1: which he thinks is he thinks once I read this,
Speaker 1: I'll be brainwashed and I'll be hornswaggled into like guzzling
Speaker 1: my urine after this, which I am very confident will
Speaker 1: not happen. Uh. And there's some other things I need
Speaker 1: to pick up. So I will go in there. And
Speaker 1: I have considered, you know, randomly, you know, going in
Speaker 1: and doing a doing a show. But I have a
Speaker 1: set up here. And the thing that I've noticed now
Speaker 1: because they have the company has me doing these YouTube
Speaker 1: videos in the home studio, it's set up per quickly
Speaker 1: to record these things, and it's not set up the
Speaker 1: same way in the main studio, which you think would
Speaker 1: be the opposite, but it's not. And I've I'm a
Speaker 1: pretty good set up here that I've got my routine down.
Speaker 1: So I know at some point I'm gonna have to
Speaker 1: figure out how to do do the the setup in
Speaker 1: in the hub, but that's part of it. But now
Speaker 1: I haven't haven't gone in there, and maybe i'll maybe
Speaker 1: I'll go in at some point and surprise you. I'll
Speaker 1: pop in and say, hey, look here I am. Do
Speaker 1: you miss me? Do you miss coming into the studio?
Speaker 1: You know I do. But I'm at the problem. I'm
Speaker 1: getting used to this now. It's been two months of
Speaker 1: doing the show from the home studio, so I'm kind
Speaker 1: of used to that now. But I like the energy.
Speaker 1: I've always got into radio. One of the reasons I
Speaker 1: got a radio is because I loved walking into the
Speaker 1: radio station. Remember the first time I walked into the
Speaker 1: Mighty six ninety in San Diego and I was like,
Speaker 1: this is awesome. The vibe, the energy. Of course, there's
Speaker 1: none of that right now at radio stations because because
Speaker 1: of what's going on. But I'd really like to get
Speaker 1: back in that. You feel like, you know, special when
Speaker 1: you walk in there. You feel like this is a
Speaker 1: big job. You know when you walk into a race station.
Speaker 1: When you walk into your home studio, you don't feel
Speaker 1: that big, you don't feel that important. And in a plus,
Speaker 1: it's cool. I mean we we worked Steve Harvey, a
Speaker 1: legend entertainment. His studio is right across the hall from us.
Speaker 1: There's so many great stars that work at Premiere in
Speaker 1: radio in our profession that it's you feel like this
Speaker 1: is big. You know, this is cool where we with
Speaker 1: all these legends and then now we're all we're all
Speaker 1: a part more than ever. Yeah, there's something really empowering
Speaker 1: about getting off the four oh five freeway. I know.
Speaker 1: I know now that Claire. Now our studios if you
Speaker 1: ever come to l A when things open up and
Speaker 1: we invite studios people into the studio and stuff, the
Speaker 1: studios are right where the four oh five and the
Speaker 1: one on one merge. And I'm happy to report that
Speaker 1: I take the one oh one. I do not get
Speaker 1: on the four oh five. The only reason I were
Speaker 1: to get on the four oh five is if the
Speaker 1: offer amp right there at the Ventura is shut down
Speaker 1: for some reason or sup Paul, and I'll I'll then
Speaker 1: have to jump on the four or five. But that's it.
Speaker 1: I don't don't go on the four or five. That's
Speaker 1: a point of demarcation. I do not cross the four
Speaker 1: oh five. Don't do it. Don't cross it. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: don't even cross it when you go get Tito's Tacos.
Speaker 1: That's true. I saw that Tito's is opening up on
Speaker 1: June one, but only only four delivery and only local deliveries.
Speaker 1: So that means we were trying to figure out. I
Speaker 1: was talking to the wife about this. I was like,
Speaker 1: how are we gonna get my my tetoes fixed? Because
Speaker 1: I don't have an address right near ttos. So I
Speaker 1: was thinking, either maybe I'll deliver the car, you know,
Speaker 1: I could sit in there, you know, parking lot somewhere.
Speaker 1: Or my father in law has a business in downtown
Speaker 1: Los Angeles. He's he runs a like a a storage
Speaker 1: warehouse thing in in l A. So I could go
Speaker 1: maybe at his place and then have him deliver there,
Speaker 1: which I think is close enough that it might work.
Speaker 1: So I have spent some time thinking about I wonder
Speaker 1: if they take telephone call is because Chick fil A,
Speaker 1: which is down the street from US and and Sino
Speaker 1: was doing that. They have the Chick fil A app,
Speaker 1: So they'll only serve you if you're either driving through
Speaker 1: the drive through or you order through your app, and
Speaker 1: then you can pick it up either the parking lot
Speaker 1: or you can pick it up at the at the door,
Speaker 1: like they'll have a door where you have a couple
Speaker 1: of vendors that come in and out servers. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I I went last week, uh, and to to make
Speaker 1: sure my dad was still alive. I don't I don't
Speaker 1: want to get in trouble guests come. But I did
Speaker 1: visit my father. I'm a bad person. I did. I
Speaker 1: visited my old man and so I picked up some
Speaker 1: we picked up some food to to bring to him,
Speaker 1: you know, some meal and obviously, and we went to
Speaker 1: a restaurant that we like. And you can't just walk
Speaker 1: up in order at that place, you had they had slass.
Speaker 1: You had to park your car and you had order
Speaker 1: on the phone. So even though I was right there
Speaker 1: talking to the person, you know, we were talking about it,
Speaker 1: they had now you gotta go, you gotta do it
Speaker 1: on the app or whatever, and that that whole thing.
Speaker 1: They didn't have a drive through. Now, So what's uh,
Speaker 1: what's on the menu today? All right? So this is
Speaker 1: a mildly marginally entertaining show. We're in the in the
Speaker 1: middle part of this show, we're gonna get to another doctor.
Speaker 1: We're gonna call him Dr G. And this is a
Speaker 1: fan of the show. This is a fan of the
Speaker 1: podcast on the radio show who reached out to me
Speaker 1: to come on this podcast. He had some things he
Speaker 1: wanted to say. He was upset with the the narrative
Speaker 1: about the coronavirus in the way that it's being described
Speaker 1: in many of the mainstream media outfits. And he felt
Speaker 1: like he's on the front lines. They're working at a
Speaker 1: hospital on the East Coast, and he wanted his story told.
Speaker 1: And I was a little skeptical at first because I
Speaker 1: was I don't really know, but he We had him confirmed.
Speaker 1: We did our due diligence to make sure he was legit,
Speaker 1: because I, you know, anybody can email me from any
Speaker 1: you know where, and but this guy is a legit guy.
Speaker 1: He sent us I mean everything possibly you could imagine
Speaker 1: to verify who he was is and uh and he
Speaker 1: did that and so so that's that's how this all
Speaker 1: kind of began. And we'll have him on talking about
Speaker 1: his story and whatnot. But before we get to that,
Speaker 1: we've got the flint Stones meets the Jetsons. Instead of
Speaker 1: set it and forget it, just forget it, we've got that,
Speaker 1: but we begin with what's in the box? What's in
Speaker 1: the box? So you know, I I'm pretty much hermit.
Speaker 1: I go I leave my house for like an hour
Speaker 1: a day here, Uh, I go for a walk. Sometimes
Speaker 1: it's an hour and a half. I went on a
Speaker 1: two hour walk the other day. I got I couldn't.
Speaker 1: I'm in a sleeping very well it was, which sucks.
Speaker 1: And so as I get up, is I gotta get
Speaker 1: some sun, get out, get a little daylight, you know,
Speaker 1: see the world, walk around. I can't go to the
Speaker 1: gym anymore. That's over. So I went out walking around.
Speaker 1: But uh so then, you know, I don't usually check
Speaker 1: the mail, even you know who's gonna send email. So
Speaker 1: they get this message, Hey, go check your portion from
Speaker 1: from from gag on. So I go out there and
Speaker 1: there's this big box you know what, I'm thinking, Oh boy,
Speaker 1: And it's got some kind of like like a health
Speaker 1: label on it. You know, I see like like a
Speaker 1: buzzword there, like you know, I think I saw organic
Speaker 1: on that or something like that. So I'm like, what
Speaker 1: the what the perishable perishable perishable is not organic? But
Speaker 1: I saw there's a big word on the box, big
Speaker 1: block box. I liked, did guests gott have Doc Mike
Speaker 1: send me goat head or something like that? And so
Speaker 1: then I this massive box. I take it through the
Speaker 1: front door of the Mallard mansion. I put it there
Speaker 1: on the kitchen counter. I then have to run back.
Speaker 1: I grabbed some scissors to kind of cut open the boxes.
Speaker 1: It does say perishable on it. I opened the box
Speaker 1: and it says here there's a message right on top.
Speaker 1: It says to Ben Maller from West of the four
Speaker 1: oh five. Never in my whole life have I ever
Speaker 1: been more afraid to see the end results of this endeavor.
Speaker 1: God help us all. And there is a what looks
Speaker 1: like a beautiful piece of meat here. It's American wagu
Speaker 1: Tomahawks steak ball in. And I assume you want me
Speaker 1: to do like a cooking video guest on, Is that
Speaker 1: what you would like me to do here? Just you know,
Speaker 1: I was thinking of that, asking maybe Fats to come
Speaker 1: on to guide you through this, but he's currently probably
Speaker 1: lighting himself on fire again. But to give you the
Speaker 1: skinny on this thing, it's it's forty ounces two and
Speaker 1: a half pounds or two pounds. Excuse me, um, and yeah,
Speaker 1: I a buddy of two friends of mine, Um Colin,
Speaker 1: who you you've got a chance to meet a couple
Speaker 1: of weeks ago, Uh Colin, And my other buddy Patrick,
Speaker 1: who who's on the front lines as well, working in
Speaker 1: um l a city fire department. Um, we actually went
Speaker 1: to the Langham Hotel like a year or two ago
Speaker 1: just to go out and have some dinner. And they
Speaker 1: have a restaurant in the steakhouse called the Royce and
Speaker 1: I've never had a tom hank before, and so a
Speaker 1: friend of ours actually worked there and she's like, you
Speaker 1: gotta get it. So they brought out this giant dish
Speaker 1: and that's all we d me. Colin and Patrick. We
Speaker 1: ordered the Tomahawk, which was a little pricey, but I
Speaker 1: kid you not, with forty ounces, I could ate that
Speaker 1: whole damn thing myself. It was so good. But we
Speaker 1: absolutely demolished that thing. And I figured this would be
Speaker 1: a perfect present for the guy that celebrated his birthday
Speaker 1: that absolutely threw me against the cross and stoned me
Speaker 1: to death and said I didn't reach out to for birthday.
Speaker 1: So given that, given that the shortage and meat, Ben,
Speaker 1: this was actually ordered before your birthday. Was my thirty birthday,
Speaker 1: just turned thirty. But to be completely transparented, you know,
Speaker 1: it took a while to get to you, just obviously
Speaker 1: with the shortage, and uh, well, thank you, it's very
Speaker 1: kind of you, and I see the uh it's got
Speaker 1: a little pamplet that this thing came with on how
Speaker 1: to properly cook the steak. But I noticed there it
Speaker 1: says your preference. It's got listed here rare medium, rare
Speaker 1: medium medium. Well, I do not see well, do not
Speaker 1: see well listed here? And it's got it's it's it's
Speaker 1: somewhat annoying here that they don't have that. They're like
Speaker 1: our people are being shunned. You know. The President Donald
Speaker 1: Trump loves his food well done, much like myself. So
Speaker 1: but I do not see that. But I guess I'll
Speaker 1: have to do it medium. Well. Then, yes, I guess
Speaker 1: I'll have to get a little pink in the middle
Speaker 1: there and take the medium. Well, I think you're gonna
Speaker 1: have phone with it. I appreciate the very kind of
Speaker 1: you to do that. And this is perfect for when
Speaker 1: you because typically say, when you break your fast, you
Speaker 1: go all out that day or that night. YEA, yeah,
Speaker 1: I go big, I go big. I got I this
Speaker 1: week I had let me go to the phone here,
Speaker 1: Hold on a second, let check this out. I want
Speaker 1: to do some fast. I'll be like you bragging about
Speaker 1: my fast fast. No, that was only when my gallbladder
Speaker 1: got taken out. That I had my record fast, the
Speaker 1: longest fast ever ninety point one hours because I had
Speaker 1: I had not eaten for forty eight hours, and then
Speaker 1: I went to the hospital and they wouldn't let me
Speaker 1: eat for another another couple of days. Uh, let's see
Speaker 1: the other day this week, I went sixty four hours
Speaker 1: at a sixty four hour fast, and I also had
Speaker 1: a about a fifty hour fast, so I had. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I pretty much ate. I think I I ate
Speaker 1: on Saturday, I eat a bunch of food on Saturday,
Speaker 1: didn't eat on Sunday, didn't need on Monday, eight on Tuesday,
Speaker 1: and then didn't need on Wednesday, and then eight late
Speaker 1: on Thursday, and then you know, picked up you know
Speaker 1: for the weekends Friday, Saturday and Sunday, I just eat
Speaker 1: like you know, a couple of times or whatever. So well,
Speaker 1: you know this from back in the day when you
Speaker 1: were you were running around the world, will travel with
Speaker 1: the Dodgers that they have this thing that everyone calls
Speaker 1: is the slut buster. Um, this will definitely be your
Speaker 1: fasting buster. Like I recommend that when you finished a
Speaker 1: long fast on a Friday or Saturday, this is on
Speaker 1: the menu. It's front and center and and you know,
Speaker 1: I will, I will put that to use there. But
Speaker 1: this more of a weekend item. You know, I got
Speaker 1: it because because I can't doing the week I got
Speaker 1: a lot of crap going on, and we all do it,
Speaker 1: but on the weekend, I can just focus on the meat.
Speaker 1: Focus on the meat. Now. That leads me to one
Speaker 1: thing I gotta push back on you on regarding your
Speaker 1: your regular show Monday through Friday. I thought you had
Speaker 1: a golden opportunity to capitalize on something from from Sunday night,
Speaker 1: and I was a little shot that you didn't um
Speaker 1: the flu game or the pizza game, the food poisoning game.
Speaker 1: I thought that was gonna be a perfect opportunity for
Speaker 1: you to jump along the same linear lines as Michael
Speaker 1: Jordan's because not only did he play in game six
Speaker 1: in a closeout game for the Chicago Bulls, but you
Speaker 1: actually hosted a show after burning your mouth eating pizza.
Speaker 1: No no, no, I see that's your see you miss
Speaker 1: getting here. I guess that is not the most impressive
Speaker 1: feat of broadcasting with some kind of ailment. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: shoot your pants and then hosted a show. I get
Speaker 1: no, no no, no no. Before that, I had gold stones
Speaker 1: the most painful thing. You think you're having a heart attack,
Speaker 1: and I can the show continued. I kept doing the
Speaker 1: show with gold Stones series. I had goll Stones going on. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was that was brutal. But anyway, we ever get
Speaker 1: to it because we got a lot to be a
Speaker 1: lot very long podcast. So the flint Stones meet the Jetsons.
Speaker 1: That is an outdated reference, but you know it sometimes
Speaker 1: in television. Typically in television they have crossovers. You know,
Speaker 1: it's like where characters of different shows get together. It's
Speaker 1: kind of obvious, Like, you know, I grew up watching
Speaker 1: the flint Stones and the Jetsons all these old cartoons,
Speaker 1: and they had an episode where there's like some kind
Speaker 1: of time machine and Fred flint Stone and the Jetsons
Speaker 1: got together and all that. So I bring this up
Speaker 1: because I got a phone call from management the other
Speaker 1: day and then you know, ring ring, I'm like, anytime
Speaker 1: I see management, I'm like, gosh, ship, what did I do?
Speaker 1: You know? What did I say? I'm like going through
Speaker 1: my head. Did I say something? Did something get on
Speaker 1: the other shouldn't have gotten the air? Did they finally
Speaker 1: hear O, Mike, you know what's going on? And so Anyway,
Speaker 1: management calls me up and they're like, hey, we've got
Speaker 1: a proposal, and I was like, okay, I'm listening. Uh.
Speaker 1: They said, we want to do a crossover show. I
Speaker 1: said okay, uh, and so I I agree to it.
Speaker 1: I'm actually excited about this. And so this coming Thursday,
Speaker 1: I in Thursday and the Friday, the Friday show on
Speaker 1: the Overnight. I will not be in the Overnight the
Speaker 1: normal seat here, which I'm reluctant to leave that position,
Speaker 1: but I will not be on that show Friday of
Speaker 1: this week. So no lame jokes, don't send any jokes
Speaker 1: for this upcoming week because it won't be on the air.
Speaker 1: But I will be sitting in the number two chair
Speaker 1: next to Rob Parker on the Odd Couple. I'll be
Speaker 1: filling in for Chris Brussard who's got some time off here,
Speaker 1: and I will be a shamuzing with my friend Rob Parker.
Speaker 1: And I think you're actually gonna be working on that show, guest.
Speaker 1: So that's yes. How about that three hours of amazing
Speaker 1: content prime time Mallard from seven to ten on the
Speaker 1: East coast, that's Afternoon Drive on the West coast four
Speaker 1: to seven, and that's Uh, that's pretty good. I love Rob.
Speaker 1: You know, we we've had meals with Rob. I think
Speaker 1: Rob's great. I love that he's he's a ship ster
Speaker 1: and he's got strong opinions, and he rocks the boat
Speaker 1: and he's good, he's entertaining. So I'm excited to go
Speaker 1: into the really the radio octagon with Rob Parker. We're
Speaker 1: gonna have fun with that. That is, so that's gonna
Speaker 1: be may correct, Yes, that is may Now. I know
Speaker 1: part of the reason why you're not apprehensive about doing
Speaker 1: this is because you're already used to k l a
Speaker 1: c a M. Five seventy here in Los Angeles covering
Speaker 1: your show up, so this will be no different for
Speaker 1: you during the prime hours here in Los Angeles is
Speaker 1: being covered up? Uh yeah. Well. One one thing that
Speaker 1: we point out here that does have I get covered
Speaker 1: up reruns of baseball games, which is really a kick
Speaker 1: in the nuts. But I understand, and they sold it.
Speaker 1: They have advertising whatever. Good for them. I don't really care.
Speaker 1: And I used to get really upset about being covered
Speaker 1: up and I rant and rave and I remember one
Speaker 1: time years ago when Fox Sports Radio was in his
Speaker 1: early days, and I found out that the they were
Speaker 1: replaying Olympic events overnight, and I was getting covered up
Speaker 1: by like, you know, lose or something like that. But
Speaker 1: did you say women's ice hockey, Well that was yeah,
Speaker 1: I was even before that. Yeah, I got preempted by
Speaker 1: women's Olympic trial hockey, which was really a just a
Speaker 1: dagger to the to the gut. But but I learned
Speaker 1: at some point, you know, you do the show and
Speaker 1: if people love the show, they'll find the show, like
Speaker 1: the fans of the show will find it. You can't
Speaker 1: really worry about that. And the great thing now more
Speaker 1: than ever, like back in those days there was no podcasting,
Speaker 1: didn't really exist. You either listen to the show live
Speaker 1: or that was it. But now like if you miss it,
Speaker 1: you can there's like seven thousand different ways you can
Speaker 1: hear the show. You can satellite radio and if you're
Speaker 1: driving a truck, get satellite radio. Can hear the show.
Speaker 1: UM almost always cleared on on Sirious x M channel
Speaker 1: eighty three, and you've got I Heart Radio. The streaming services.
Speaker 1: There's some other streaming services. We're not supposed to say
Speaker 1: that our shows on that you can also listen to, uh,
Speaker 1: and then we've got the I Heart app with podcasting
Speaker 1: and all this, it's like a zillion ways you can
Speaker 1: hear the show, so I don't really rebut it it's nice.
Speaker 1: And it's limited though, because I mean, we're doing this
Speaker 1: for a limited time before we go follow Jill Rogan
Speaker 1: of Spotify, right, yes, yes, yes, I'm right now. It
Speaker 1: doesn't have to Spotify anyone that has a hundred million
Speaker 1: dollar check. I am in. I don't care if you
Speaker 1: have no listeners. I could be talking into a garden hose.
Speaker 1: I don't care. I will yell into that garden hose
Speaker 1: loud and proud. Chi ching, Chi ching. I'm telling you
Speaker 1: right now, my dream is to be a sellout. I
Speaker 1: want people to call me a sellout. I want people
Speaker 1: to say, you're just some rich guy. I want that,
Speaker 1: you know. I did a monologue this week about the owners,
Speaker 1: and everyone's like shaming the owners in baseball, taking the
Speaker 1: side of the players. I think because people look down
Speaker 1: upon the rich, even though everyone's rich, it's just that
Speaker 1: the owners are more wealthy. They're super rich, they're aristocrat
Speaker 1: rich and all that. But my I don't I don't
Speaker 1: feel that. I don't. I don't just look down upon
Speaker 1: people because they have a lot of money. Nor do
Speaker 1: I look down upon people because they have no money,
Speaker 1: you know, so, but a lot of people do that.
Speaker 1: But I would like to be one of those people
Speaker 1: that has ridiculous few money. Uh, And that is the goal.
Speaker 1: But I'm looking forward to working with Rob. That'll be fun.
Speaker 1: It's a standalone, one time thing. Uh. They you know,
Speaker 1: there's a chance to do more than that. But I
Speaker 1: want to do the Overnight show and I didn't want to.
Speaker 1: I want to miss that, but I am gonna miss
Speaker 1: it one day this coming week. But you can still
Speaker 1: hear me and you just and we're still doing the
Speaker 1: podcast and all that, so it'll still be on. So
Speaker 1: you get plenty of plenty of this nonsense. Now, that'll
Speaker 1: be beautiful. So you'll be working with Rob Parker, myself
Speaker 1: and also Wrong Button, Bob and the Vegan. That's like
Speaker 1: the dream team, right, you're gonna have You're gonna have
Speaker 1: five people that are fully attentive at one time during
Speaker 1: the show. How does that make you feel? That is
Speaker 1: a low blow because you're no, because you're usually correct
Speaker 1: me if I'm wrong, But you have no editors during
Speaker 1: your show. You have no interns and then limited staff. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we we have nothing. We we have nothing, um, alright,
Speaker 1: So moving on from that, and and so again that's Thursday,
Speaker 1: this coming Thursday. Here the was it may may you
Speaker 1: can although on the schedule it's his February twenty. I
Speaker 1: don't know if the SAD the schedule out for the
Speaker 1: company it says February twenty eight. Maybe I can have
Speaker 1: a time machine and go back and do it on
Speaker 1: February twenty eight, um, which we could go out without
Speaker 1: masks on February and we could you know, go to
Speaker 1: restaurants and sit down and eat like human beings. It's
Speaker 1: amazing thing anyway. So uh, instead of set it and
Speaker 1: forget it, just forget it now. A couple of weeks
Speaker 1: ago we said we we thought we had a guest.
Speaker 1: It didn't work out well. One of the people that
Speaker 1: was in the running to be that guest. I have
Speaker 1: been negotiating and I'll i'll let you in behind the
Speaker 1: curtain here. And so we're trying to figure out who
Speaker 1: do we want to put on the podcast. You know,
Speaker 1: this is designed for for interviews and whatnot. And in fact,
Speaker 1: we've got coming up in a minutes we'll hear from
Speaker 1: Dr G who's uh working in the hospital on the
Speaker 1: East coast, and he wanted to tell his story, so
Speaker 1: we'll get to him coming up in a comus. But
Speaker 1: I wanted to talk to some people that are like
Speaker 1: I'm big fans of you know, and and one of
Speaker 1: those people I grew up stand up late at night
Speaker 1: watching infommercials. And the legend of infomercials is this guy
Speaker 1: named Ron Pope Peel from the showtime Rotisserie Chicken. I
Speaker 1: believe is the I think that was the item there,
Speaker 1: but he had the line said it and forget it,
Speaker 1: one of the great lines ever said. And so I
Speaker 1: am Facebook friends friends with Ron Pope Peel, and so
Speaker 1: I reached out to him, and then he directed me
Speaker 1: towards his publicist. So, believe it or not, I still
Speaker 1: got a publicist. He's not actively working anymore. He's an
Speaker 1: older gentleman. And I reached out to the publicist's very
Speaker 1: nice woman for Ron Popeel, and we've been going back
Speaker 1: and forth in email for the last couple of weeks.
Speaker 1: And she she originally when I first contacted her, was
Speaker 1: very excited. She said that Ron would be perfect, but
Speaker 1: she had to check with Ron and all this stuff.
Speaker 1: And so anyway, we went back and forth, and much
Speaker 1: to my dismay, here we have been rejected by Ron
Speaker 1: Pope Peel. He has decided not to do it, and
Speaker 1: I'm trying to figure out why. And I'm not sure.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's because of Lenny Dikester. I don't know. Because
Speaker 1: they asked for a list of the people that we've
Speaker 1: had on because I guess, you know, we don't have
Speaker 1: big enough names or the wrong names, then these certain
Speaker 1: people won't come on. But it's disappointing. I'm still a
Speaker 1: Ron Pope Peel fan, not as big a fan, not
Speaker 1: as big a fan as I was. I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: lie to you, but it would have It would have
Speaker 1: been fun because he's had an interesting, interesting career and
Speaker 1: all that. But he is decided to pass, which is
Speaker 1: his right there, and um, we will get other people.
Speaker 1: Who's his rival? Maybe we should know what I should
Speaker 1: do is we should try to get his who's the
Speaker 1: other big guy the infomercial game that's not like Billy
Speaker 1: Mays is dead, so we can't get him on. That's
Speaker 1: the guy that you compared me to? You right, yeah,
Speaker 1: you look like Billy Mays. How about the sham Wow guy.
Speaker 1: Is he still around? The sham Wow guy? Get him on?
Speaker 1: Or the my pillow guy that we should try to
Speaker 1: get to my pillow guy on as like an f
Speaker 1: you to Ron Popio. We could put my pillow guy.
Speaker 1: But do you think some people do you think your
Speaker 1: audience would be offended? Like because he's a Bible thumper?
Speaker 1: Do you think like Ron? Yeah? Or the pillow Yeah.
Speaker 1: Mostly just there's certain people that run around looking for
Speaker 1: things to be offended. So those people will be offended.
Speaker 1: The people that are running around the always offended crowd. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm offensive. That is offensive to me. How dare you
Speaker 1: calm down, snowflake? Let's get to this doctor. What do
Speaker 1: you say here? All right? So just give you the
Speaker 1: backstory again if you missed the beginning here, I don't
Speaker 1: know how you missed the beginning. But I got an
Speaker 1: email about a week ago from a fan of the
Speaker 1: show who works at a hospital on the East Coast,
Speaker 1: and he did not want to use his name, but
Speaker 1: he felt it was important. He wanted to tell his
Speaker 1: story about the coronavirus and what he's experienced, and he
Speaker 1: was upset with some of the media coverage and the
Speaker 1: way this thing is being portrayed in the media. And so, uh,
Speaker 1: let's welcome in. We're gonna call him Dr G. And
Speaker 1: we welcome him him into the Fifth Hour with Ben
Speaker 1: Maller and David Gascon. So the first question we'll start
Speaker 1: with this, Dr G. Why did you contact me? Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm just I'm frustrated with um the way
Speaker 1: that all the scientistic information about the coronavirus is being presented.
Speaker 1: We have, you know, just a vast amount of information.
Speaker 1: None of it's very good because none of it's really
Speaker 1: been pure review and they're all small, little studies. But
Speaker 1: unfortunately only the negative side is being displayed. And you know,
Speaker 1: your famous mind is when the legend becomes the fact
Speaker 1: to go with the legend. And it's frustrating because no
Speaker 1: positive information is really being display to the public. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and so you're working there, you're in the hospital, and
Speaker 1: what has it been like the last couple of months,
Speaker 1: because you see, I know, the first month you saw
Speaker 1: the news stories. You're on the East coast, but the
Speaker 1: news stories were like everything is being gonna be overwhelmed
Speaker 1: and all that, And what is your experience, your personal
Speaker 1: experience been like, you know, so I'm coming from the
Speaker 1: surgical side, not necessarily the medicine boards, but we had
Speaker 1: to completely shut everything down. We were very worried that
Speaker 1: we were going to run out of personal protective equipment.
Speaker 1: A lot of it comes from overseas, and so that
Speaker 1: was a big issue. And also we wanted to be
Speaker 1: able to funnel it towards the medicine side and save
Speaker 1: in the case they call on us because we take
Speaker 1: care of a lot of these patients on the respirator um.
Speaker 1: I think the biggest frustrating thing is I had a
Speaker 1: lot of patients who have come in and although their
Speaker 1: surgeries aren't considered emergency surgeries, you're like your gallbladder um.
Speaker 1: There's conditions that they can't function unless they get surgery,
Speaker 1: and they can't go to work. So not only is
Speaker 1: the coronavirus people off, now I have more and more
Speaker 1: people who would be delayed too. For six weeks to
Speaker 1: go back to work after a surgery, you have now
Speaker 1: been delayed, you know, two or three months, not taking
Speaker 1: a big hit. Be sure to catch live editions of
Speaker 1: The Ben Maller Show weekdays at two am Eastern eleven
Speaker 1: pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and The I heart
Speaker 1: radio app Yeah, and just to follow that up, I
Speaker 1: mean you mentioned the science and we've talked about it
Speaker 1: on this podcast a bit, because you are right, it
Speaker 1: seems like anything that is positive. You think, normally in
Speaker 1: a situation like this where it seems pretty bad at
Speaker 1: the beginning, when things change, people would get excited. But
Speaker 1: people make their mind up in that. But but you're
Speaker 1: in the medical industry, so what are you what are
Speaker 1: the people around you when you guys, when you're talking
Speaker 1: behind closed doors there without giving any names to violate
Speaker 1: hippo loss, but like, what what is the what is
Speaker 1: the conversation like? And how does this relate? You know,
Speaker 1: you've been been around for a few years, so how
Speaker 1: many How does this relate to some of the other
Speaker 1: things that you've experience or the other doctors have experienced.
Speaker 1: So you know, between you, me and the fence post,
Speaker 1: I think it's everybody listening. A lot of us think
Speaker 1: that this is absolutely like we're living in the twilight zone.
Speaker 1: We don't understand. You know, it's good to be cautious.
Speaker 1: This is not something to just blow off and make
Speaker 1: a joke about. I mean, people are dying, and their
Speaker 1: mothers and sisters and brothers and fathers. Um. But just
Speaker 1: the vast or the rash steps that we've taken to
Speaker 1: prevent this. We're all looking around each other and sitting
Speaker 1: in the lounge or were on the wars and talking
Speaker 1: and being like, this is not nearly as bad as
Speaker 1: it's been predicted. Why are we not changing things and
Speaker 1: getting more focused towards back to health. Thymus were um
Speaker 1: and you know, I mean this kind of the same
Speaker 1: thing happened in two thousand nine, and speaking with a
Speaker 1: lot of the folks that were around then, obviously it
Speaker 1: was a more familiar virus um than what's now and
Speaker 1: it was discovered in the United States, so I think
Speaker 1: that gave us a little more sense of security. But
Speaker 1: you know, Dr Fauci was on the news saying to
Speaker 1: say things, don't touch your face, don't touch your mouth, um.
Speaker 1: But nobody was required number of masks. We didn't perform
Speaker 1: social distancing. Some students got led out of school, but
Speaker 1: it wasn't nearly at this And so you know, even
Speaker 1: these top minds, you sit around and talk with them.
Speaker 1: And I talked with people from other cities, other hospitals,
Speaker 1: different regions. People are a little bit perplexed as to
Speaker 1: why these decisions are being made. Be sure to catch
Speaker 1: live editions of The Ben Maller Show weekdays at two
Speaker 1: a m. Eastern eleven p m Pacific dr G. Before
Speaker 1: we brought you on on the podcast, but and I
Speaker 1: had talked about a couple of different things. But one
Speaker 1: of them he had mentioned was that you did not
Speaker 1: want to use your name and where you're working at
Speaker 1: for specific reasons. Um, what are those reasons? And why
Speaker 1: do you feel like you can't come out specifically to
Speaker 1: acknowledge like where you're at and what you're doing. You know,
Speaker 1: it's really for fear minute the backlash. Um, it's there's
Speaker 1: so much of it. You look at anybody who talks
Speaker 1: about this positively and they're pretty much off precise. Um,
Speaker 1: and the things that we're talking about, And I'm going
Speaker 1: to say that about my opinions, these are this is
Speaker 1: just published at a period view data. And even if
Speaker 1: you try to have a civil conversation with someone about this,
Speaker 1: if they are not in the know, Um, they look
Speaker 1: at you as if you have some type of agenda.
Speaker 1: And I hate I don't want to talk about politics.
Speaker 1: I don't really prescribe to either side, But a lot
Speaker 1: of this is being played as that, as that either
Speaker 1: the left or the right, and there's some type of
Speaker 1: political agenda, and I just don't want to deal with
Speaker 1: that kind of backlash because I'm not here to uh,
Speaker 1: you know, advocate for any side of here to maybe
Speaker 1: give people a little bit of hope that things are
Speaker 1: going to get better and they're not going to be
Speaker 1: as bad as they've been predicted. Yeah, Like taking a
Speaker 1: line from Dragnet's like the names have been changed to
Speaker 1: protect the innocent, and you're in that position. Um, while
Speaker 1: you've been working or even away from from the hospital. Um,
Speaker 1: has anyone that you either know directly or indirectly come
Speaker 1: across individuals that will work for FEMA? Um? I do
Speaker 1: you have a friend who's worked for people to four? Um?
Speaker 1: He was big with Hurricane Katrina. Basically he does inspections
Speaker 1: of damns and housing sites, flooding fights, things like that.
Speaker 1: But no one working with this specifically. Okay. The reason
Speaker 1: why I was asking is because Ben and I have
Speaker 1: gone back and forth on this because we're here in California. Uh, California,
Speaker 1: New York, Texas, Arizona, and Florida are a big among
Speaker 1: the biggest names in the cross the United States with
Speaker 1: how their numbers have been cases versus deaths, deaths versus cases,
Speaker 1: and also elderly versus the young. But people have made
Speaker 1: this statement that states like Florida are manipulating their numbers
Speaker 1: for the sheer reason of bringing down their cases. Do
Speaker 1: you find or do you feel that any of that
Speaker 1: information is actually accurate at all? Or do you feel
Speaker 1: that what Governor of Santis has been publicizing and obviously
Speaker 1: displaying is accurate to your best to your knowledge, you know,
Speaker 1: I think the issue with all of these numbers is
Speaker 1: that we're looking at a very limited set of data. UM.
Speaker 1: The biggest thing with this is, depending on who you read,
Speaker 1: the people that have this never know they're going to
Speaker 1: have it, are entirely a symptomatic and a bunch of
Speaker 1: us have been exposed and we're all younger individuals, UM,
Speaker 1: and we mean direct contact with people we didn't know
Speaker 1: they had it. We've operated on some people didn't know
Speaker 1: they had it. We've never had any symptoms. So you
Speaker 1: look at the numbers that are reported, and if what
Speaker 1: these studies are saying is accurate, you need to at
Speaker 1: least double the number of confirmed cases, if not multiply
Speaker 1: it by five times. And so now that makes your
Speaker 1: denominator huge in terms of looking at the infection fatality
Speaker 1: rate UM and it drops it down, you know, two
Speaker 1: to five times what it is. And if you want
Speaker 1: to bring an antibody testing into the conversation, it goes
Speaker 1: down even more. I mean they investing maybe fifty times
Speaker 1: more people have already had this, So it's really hard
Speaker 1: to say which numbers are accurate, which numbers are inaccurate.
Speaker 1: At this time. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports
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Speaker 1: Heart Radio app search f s R to listen live. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's interesting, dr G. Because I have some friends
Speaker 1: that are in the medical industry and they've told me
Speaker 1: that they they think this has been in America since
Speaker 1: like maybe December, possibly before that, with people traveling from
Speaker 1: China and the things spreading around. So this shutdown didn't
Speaker 1: start till March, so you're i mean, the timeline on this,
Speaker 1: it's kind of mind boggling when you think about the
Speaker 1: amount of people that came out of Wuhan, China, where
Speaker 1: they think this started and to America, to two hub
Speaker 1: cities in America, and then those people went out and
Speaker 1: this is as contagious as everyone thinks it is, but
Speaker 1: not as deadly as everyone you know now thinks it is.
Speaker 1: It's really crazy. I think this this probably went around December, January,
Speaker 1: February three months unchecked, and then in the United States,
Speaker 1: and then in March they decided that we better, we
Speaker 1: better roll this out. It's it's kind of I mean,
Speaker 1: the numbers are are what have you been tested through
Speaker 1: the antibodies or any of that stuff, or have you
Speaker 1: had the coronavirus. We have not been testing. Only way
Speaker 1: we're getting tested is if we become a symptomatic UM
Speaker 1: excuse me, symptomatic pardon me. I have been exposed to
Speaker 1: multiple individuals UM. And you know, essentially they didn't have
Speaker 1: a stop coming to work. It was just you go
Speaker 1: and you wear your N ninety five the entire time
Speaker 1: that you were there, and if you start to develop
Speaker 1: any symptoms UM that they would test you because they
Speaker 1: were trying to keep the kids. Essentially, for those who
Speaker 1: were symptomatic UM. The biggest reason is because the kids
Speaker 1: aren't very good and so you have to use multiple
Speaker 1: testing kits on folks to actually ensure that they have
Speaker 1: the coronavirus. And then you know, those are the folks
Speaker 1: that you treate outs you a hiring unit of care,
Speaker 1: so they're not just testing us, UM testing us widely.
Speaker 1: And to talk to your point, you look at the
Speaker 1: number of flights that come into l a X from
Speaker 1: UM Asia, especially China every day. I mean you're talking
Speaker 1: about thirty fifty thousand flights UM in that time span
Speaker 1: string in November through Christmas where this thing was just
Speaker 1: going unchecked. Dr G. Two other questions that I need
Speaker 1: to do in terms of follow up with this based
Speaker 1: on what you're doing your activity level instead the hospital.
Speaker 1: One is what is the morale like? And then too
Speaker 1: what are your schedule has been? Like are you working
Speaker 1: twelves or you working eight teens? Are you're working twenty four? Is? Like,
Speaker 1: how has that been structured? And do you feel like
Speaker 1: there's a lot more strain built on the hospitals now
Speaker 1: that you're at UM as opposed to the pandemic actually
Speaker 1: opening up? So I think morale UM is a little
Speaker 1: down just because we've been UM you know, sort of
Speaker 1: clamped down by the system just to try to ensure
Speaker 1: that everyone's safe. Um, we're also when things are opening
Speaker 1: up for us here, we're starting to get back to
Speaker 1: our normal daily lives. But people have very highly active people,
Speaker 1: especially in surgical fields, and when you're sitting around you're
Speaker 1: unable to do things, you're not able to act. That
Speaker 1: definitely weighs on you. In terms of hours, you know,
Speaker 1: we work alone anyone and we're usually there from trove
Speaker 1: the fourteen hours a day regardless, So it really hasn't
Speaker 1: changed it for us. I think probably on the side
Speaker 1: of the medicine folks, UM there there maybe a little
Speaker 1: bit longer in terms of days in a row now
Speaker 1: because they're trying to separate people or you keep half
Speaker 1: the staff out for as many as you can for
Speaker 1: a week at a time, so that if people do
Speaker 1: become symptomatic and test positive, if they have to go
Speaker 1: out for two weeks, then you can bring in folks
Speaker 1: in their stead. So I think they've been doing some
Speaker 1: longer shifts in terms of the number of days now.
Speaker 1: Correct me if I'm wrong, because I do have friends
Speaker 1: that work out here in Los Angeles at CECH Medical
Speaker 1: for usc U c L A Providence hospital as well.
Speaker 1: And they actually have to go through procedures they have
Speaker 1: to go through to training to get and to wear
Speaker 1: a ppe mass um to take out any kind of
Speaker 1: of medicine. And that doesn't even include UM any Z packs.
Speaker 1: Has that been the case for you guys back east
Speaker 1: to No matter what field of the hospital that you're in,
Speaker 1: whether you're a doctor, nurse, pharmacy, whatever it may be,
Speaker 1: you have to go through extra protocol to get these devices.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's uh, it's really can it's really gone
Speaker 1: through the riff of the stuff. Is you know who
Speaker 1: thought having needs to be worth gold actually found a
Speaker 1: box in my house from what I had been painting, uh,
Speaker 1: and it was a great pay So yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: we've gone through dawning and daffing all of the ppe um.
Speaker 1: The American College of Surgeons has gone through a very
Speaker 1: rigorous or creative regular set of guidelines for especially innovating patients,
Speaker 1: exhibiting patients changing out trade theostom is anything that has
Speaker 1: to do with the airway because this has transmitted through
Speaker 1: droptalizations UM. And so now we're requiring before we can
Speaker 1: go into the operating room. It's only the anenthesiologists and
Speaker 1: the certified nursing assistants who are in the room within
Speaker 1: the fives on and protect you here innovating the patients, um,
Speaker 1: and we treat them all if they have this version
Speaker 1: of the coronavirus, and then we're allowed in. And when
Speaker 1: the patients are exhibited after procedure, we have to exit,
Speaker 1: and then the whole room has to be completely turned
Speaker 1: over and sterilized. And we're only using specific rooms and
Speaker 1: specific equipment for patients. Okay, So when you take the
Speaker 1: when you take the Batman suit off, and you're outside
Speaker 1: as a normal civilian, are you exercising, are you out
Speaker 1: and about regularly? And also are you wearing any kind
Speaker 1: of mask when you're outside the hospital. So I am
Speaker 1: doing my best to respect the wishes of the general
Speaker 1: public in terms of that, I have been keeping my
Speaker 1: social distance. I try to do things tradiciously when we're
Speaker 1: opening up here now. But before this happened, um, you know,
Speaker 1: I want to people have a lot of information they
Speaker 1: received and I'm not going out of my way to say, hey,
Speaker 1: I know better than you, I know more than you.
Speaker 1: I'm not going to follow the steps. Masks here were
Speaker 1: never a huge thing, um, you know, and unfortunately, there's
Speaker 1: a lot of misinformation about the masks which give people,
Speaker 1: UM kind of a false sense of security. UM. You know.
Speaker 1: University of Minnesota actually in April when this suggestion came out,
Speaker 1: their Center for Infectious Disease and Research, I mean, they
Speaker 1: came out with a summary about the use of masks, UM,
Speaker 1: you know, and to to give you a quote, UM
Speaker 1: basically Master, Well, before we get into this, masks are
Speaker 1: not very effective. Cloth masks the particle sizes which you're
Speaker 1: trying to protect from getting into your lungs, the coronavirus UM.
Speaker 1: Cloth masks stop maybe two to three pent of those
Speaker 1: particles from going in. Even surgical masks aren't great about
Speaker 1: is the best UM And there's been no studies that
Speaker 1: have ever shown that wearing masks is actually decreased UM
Speaker 1: the transmission of upper recipy infections, but not with any
Speaker 1: statistical significance. There is some correlation, so, I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: the call and they said, leaving aside the fact that
Speaker 1: master ineffective, telling the public to wear cloth or surgical
Speaker 1: masks could be interpreted by some to me and that
Speaker 1: people are safe to stop isolating at home and or
Speaker 1: stop you know, we're safe to stop using social distancing.
Speaker 1: And so I actually I think that that recommendation may
Speaker 1: have been inappropriate, um, because you know, you see a
Speaker 1: lot of people aft with their masks on. They're touching
Speaker 1: them all the time, touching their face, touching their cell phone. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Think it's a false sense of security. Yeah. And just
Speaker 1: to kind of wrap this up, Dr G, I'm so,
Speaker 1: I'm glad you reached out your fan and I appreciate that,
Speaker 1: and I appreciate what you guys are doing there at
Speaker 1: the hospital. But anything that we've missed here that you
Speaker 1: wanted to pass on to the person listening here that
Speaker 1: you think is important that we have completely screwed up
Speaker 1: and not gotten to. I don't think you guys to
Speaker 1: screw up anything, and I appreciate you having me on um.
Speaker 1: It was nice to you to make some time for me. Um.
Speaker 1: I think the best thing for the individual to do
Speaker 1: and for the for their families is do whatever you
Speaker 1: needs is best. If you want to continue social isolating,
Speaker 1: if you think that wearing a mask is important, if
Speaker 1: you think that not all the public events is important,
Speaker 1: it's best for you and your family. You know, each
Speaker 1: individual is different. Obviously, this thing affects people differently based
Speaker 1: on their predisposed conditions, based on their age, and definitely
Speaker 1: follow whatever your local and federal government is telling you
Speaker 1: to do. But I think in the grand scheme of things,
Speaker 1: this the extremes that we've got to in order to
Speaker 1: prevent the transmission of something that moreb and likely has
Speaker 1: already been spread throughout a majority or at least the
Speaker 1: large percentage of the public, and something that for the
Speaker 1: most part, most people will be just fine. And Okay,
Speaker 1: I think that when things open up and when you're
Speaker 1: allowed to go back treat life is normally thin. And
Speaker 1: don't be afraid to hello to someone. You don't need
Speaker 1: to wear a mask. It's okay to pick up somebody's law,
Speaker 1: and if they drop and hand it to them, you know,
Speaker 1: I don't let this thing change the way you live
Speaker 1: for the rest of your life, because we're gonna look
Speaker 1: back on this in five or ten years and say, hey,
Speaker 1: it wasn't that bad. Dr g. One lighter remark that
Speaker 1: I need to make to you two is we appreciate
Speaker 1: you obviously reaching out, but uh, I know that you
Speaker 1: confided in me before we passed you law to ben
Speaker 1: that you're actually more of a fan of the Fifth
Speaker 1: Hour as opposed to Ben's overnight show. Yea, and I
Speaker 1: know that. Come on, you know, I really I missed
Speaker 1: David's voice on you know, the regular show. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm a podcast listener and just you know you keeping
Speaker 1: them on only on the weekend. This is what he
Speaker 1: parks crooking every time. He just wants to make you
Speaker 1: notice more. Wow. I mean that is did you what
Speaker 1: the hell is going on? Let's work back east. I
Speaker 1: gotta give a cross fishing fishing. I appreciate a guy.
Speaker 1: One other thing of the public, don't drink your yurn
Speaker 1: whatever you do. I want you to do that, not
Speaker 1: recommend you see that's from the radio show that you're
Speaker 1: in drinking from the radio show. All right, listen, be
Speaker 1: safe out there. Dr G. Thank you man, and thanks
Speaker 1: for listening over the years. Here we'll talk to you
Speaker 1: again sometime. Thanks you, guys. I appreciate it. Had a
Speaker 1: great one. Be safe.