1 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 1: What is of my people? I've got to middle there's 2 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 1: a three and out podcast. How are we doing? This 3 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:18,959 Speaker 1: is gonna be a little bit different of a podcast. 4 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:21,480 Speaker 1: As I told you last week. We're gonna do Middlecoff 5 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 1: mail Bag only today and then there won't be another 6 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 1: podcast for a couple of weeks. I think July, like 7 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 1: May is the date. So this will be the last 8 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 1: podcast this week, no podcast next week unless something crazy happens. 9 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:38,639 Speaker 1: Maybe put one out on Friday, Probably not, and then 10 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:41,920 Speaker 1: we'll start rocking and rolling getting ready for I guess 11 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:43,520 Speaker 1: for the football season, but we'll still be a couple 12 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 1: of weeks away. This is when the football community they 13 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 1: go to sunny places, they play golf, and they drink alcohol. 14 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 1: And that's where. That's where I'm at it uh even 15 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 1: though you know, am I in the football community anymore 16 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 1: or I don't know? I'm a hybrid. I just talk now. 17 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 1: But there's nothing going on, so I thought, how dose, 18 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:04,759 Speaker 1: But I won't be gone for too long. Appreciate everyone 19 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:06,320 Speaker 1: who slid in the d m s. You guys know 20 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 1: the drill. Also, if you listen on Collins Feed subscribe 21 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 1: to the podcast separately, that would greatly help it. Just 22 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:17,199 Speaker 1: helps everything. Subscribe to the three and Out podcast. Also, 23 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 1: for those of you that have, I appreciate it. Leave 24 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:22,840 Speaker 1: a review. Most positive reviews. There's some negative ones. But 25 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 1: I heard someone uh say this one time, they don't 26 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 1: read any reviews because what's the point. You know, the 27 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:29,919 Speaker 1: positive stuff is all gonna be positive and the negative 28 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:31,680 Speaker 1: stuff is just gonna piss you off. To just avoid it. 29 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 1: That's kind of the tactic I I take. But you know, 30 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:35,680 Speaker 1: i'd be line if I don't like them. I like 31 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:38,120 Speaker 1: the positive ones, but the negative ones like, what are 32 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:40,199 Speaker 1: you gonna do? Change you guys? Opinion? He doesn't like it. Whatever, 33 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 1: leave a review, greatly appreciate it, and uh, let's rock 34 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 1: and roll. Okay, let's get to your questions and uh, 35 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 1: like I said last podcast for a couple of weeks, 36 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 1: start with Michael Love the Biz and sports take on 37 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 1: the pot. I grew up going to Cardinal games in 38 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 1: the hot Arizona Sun at a SU stadium before I 39 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 1: moved to Portland and fourteen. That had to be some 40 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 1: pretty hot September games. I kind of forget that they 41 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 1: used to play there. I actually don't remember that really 42 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 1: at all. I'm curious with your potential move to Arizona. 43 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 1: If you will have an end with the Cardinals like 44 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:13,799 Speaker 1: you do with the forty Niners, Well, I do not have. 45 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 1: I don't know anyone there. I've been very very critical 46 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 1: of the head coach. Again, I am not anti Cliff 47 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 1: the guy. Everyone I know that knows him loves him. 48 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:25,919 Speaker 1: Every time I've heard him talk, he sounds like a 49 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 1: great guy. I just fundamentally look at football completely different 50 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 1: than him. We do not have the same football philosophies 51 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:35,919 Speaker 1: at all. I'm really kind of anti everything he does. 52 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 1: I think it's ultimately very soft and it leads to 53 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:41,240 Speaker 1: soft defense, which has kind of been the the mL 54 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 1: since he's been there. Now, I listen, I'm not trying 55 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 1: to say he should or shouldn't be I don't really care. 56 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:50,359 Speaker 1: But I think when they missed the playoffs this year, 57 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 1: everyone in that building will be fired. So maybe I'll 58 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 1: know the next group of people that come in. But 59 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:57,239 Speaker 1: right now, I mean, I don't necessarily have any ends. 60 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 1: Hopefully one of my friends gets the job, though I'm 61 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:03,120 Speaker 1: not gonna. I wouldn't root against that, I'll promise you that, 62 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:05,959 Speaker 1: But I I do think the Cardinals. You know you 63 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 1: have the number one overall pick. They should have made 64 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 1: the playoffs last year, and they crumbled down the stretch 65 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:16,360 Speaker 1: that their first round linebackers got arrested I think last 66 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 1: week or two weeks ago. You know, they've had several arrests. 67 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 1: Their general manager, who actually think is pretty good. Like 68 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 1: I'm I'm not anti Steve Kim, but you don't get 69 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 1: fourhead coaches. So if this fails this year, which the 70 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 1: division is stacked, who who are they beaten? You know, 71 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 1: I mean, come on, let's let's be real here that 72 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 1: I think that I think it's bye bye everyone in there, 73 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 1: and then they're kind of starting from scratch. I want 74 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 1: to say, I've been listening for a long time. You 75 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 1: inspired me, sorry my fat fingers hit said before. You 76 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 1: inspired me to make my own podcast, The Sports Lounge Experience. 77 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 1: Check it out. We have eighty some episodes. Second, I 78 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 1: know you've been in scouting, but I'm young, aspiring coach. 79 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 1: You have any suggestions on how you get into coaching 80 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 1: at the college or pro level. I think it's probably 81 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 1: easier to get an in in college than it would 82 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 1: be in the pros. And in college they have these 83 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 1: camps right they're going on right now, where USC or 84 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:20,280 Speaker 1: where wherever you live. Texas, Oklahoma, Clemson, Alabama have the 85 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 1: summer camps and they open them up to all these 86 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 1: college and high school coaches that can go work. Well, 87 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 1: what happens when you're working the camp you get to 88 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 1: introduce yourself to offensive coordinators and head coaches. I I 89 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 1: hate the term networking because it feels very hollow. I 90 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 1: like meeting people that I'm interested in, not because like 91 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:45,120 Speaker 1: I want to get something out of now if it 92 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 1: leads to something great, but that we're networking to me 93 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 1: is always kind of cringe, to be honest with you. 94 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 1: But I do think there is something to be said 95 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:56,600 Speaker 1: about working with other people, interacting with other people, developing 96 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:59,840 Speaker 1: relationships with other people. Who knows when you're when you're open, 97 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:01,840 Speaker 1: find it that way, and you introduce yourself to other 98 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 1: people in your profession, you're gonna gravitate towards certain individuals 99 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 1: and just become friends. And that's usually how the world works, right. 100 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:12,720 Speaker 1: People hire people they know, people they trust, and the 101 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 1: only way to gain trust you gotta meet people. It's 102 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:17,840 Speaker 1: hard to like, just call up the phone to call 103 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:20,600 Speaker 1: Nick Saban, But what about his wide receiver coach? His 104 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 1: wide receiver coach born likely he's gonna be a head 105 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:25,280 Speaker 1: coach one day. We're an offensive coordinator one day. So 106 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 1: you get to know that guy. In the coaching profession 107 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 1: is just it grows so fast, because the guy can 108 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 1: go from a nobody to somebody in the blink of 109 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 1: an eye. Think about like three or four years ago, 110 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:40,040 Speaker 1: Joe Brady's cutting film for Sean Payton. I've been a 111 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:41,920 Speaker 1: lot of people in there didn't realize three years later 112 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:45,599 Speaker 1: to be an offensive coordinator in the league. That's coaching. 113 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:48,480 Speaker 1: Like if you're an insurance salesman or you're a real 114 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:52,039 Speaker 1: estate broker, you're probably not gonna go thirty years old 115 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:55,160 Speaker 1: one year, right, and three years later you're thirty three 116 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 1: and you're fucking on top of the world. It's not 117 00:05:57,960 --> 00:06:00,360 Speaker 1: really the way most industries work. It just takes some time. 118 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 1: Button coaching probably more than anything. I guess it could 119 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 1: happen in like tech, but for every snapchat, there's a 120 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:11,600 Speaker 1: million things that fail. A coach can go from like 121 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:14,280 Speaker 1: who's this guy to damn he's interviewing to be a 122 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:18,160 Speaker 1: head coach in less than five years. We see it 123 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 1: all the time. Two years ago, Robert Salop might have 124 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 1: gotten fired from the fort next year, go to the 125 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 1: super Bowl. Next year, he's interviewing for every job in 126 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 1: the league. Boom, just like that. I've thought about this 127 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:34,720 Speaker 1: for a while now. Why don't we see backup quarterbacks 128 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 1: getting more shots to start when they found success. Taylor 129 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 1: Heineke comes to mind. He played very well against the 130 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 1: Bucks in the playoffs. We talked about it for a week, 131 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 1: and then boom, he's back to the bench. I understand 132 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:49,720 Speaker 1: if he's the starter, if the starter is great, like 133 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:54,840 Speaker 1: Brady Rogers, etc. But when your quarterback is fifth, what's 134 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 1: the harm in giving the kid a shot? You never know? Well, 135 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:01,680 Speaker 1: here's the thing with or Heinekey. I'm not gonna pull 136 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 1: up his his career game log. It's not very long. 137 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 1: So no one, including Washington, even if they love the guy, 138 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 1: is gonna bank on him being a starter because he 139 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 1: had a moment right now. I know he had a 140 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 1: couple of moments down the stretch of the season, but 141 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 1: that's a pretty big risk there. There is a lot 142 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 1: of missing information, and I think more often than not, 143 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 1: when backup quarterbacks get their shot, they fail. It's a 144 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 1: pretty consistent theme in league history, right like even and 145 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 1: I would say not every backup is equal. When I 146 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 1: talk about backups, I talk about fifth, six, seventh round, 147 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 1: got undrafted free agents right for every Tony Romo. There 148 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 1: are a lot of guys that you would not put 149 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 1: into the game if your life depended on it. And 150 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 1: then there are guys that I'm reading reading would be 151 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 1: strong listening to the Steve Young book. I mean, Steve 152 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 1: Young was like the number one overall pick in the 153 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 1: USFL and in the NFL, like that guy that they 154 00:07:57,160 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 1: was getting paid like five million dollars a backup in 155 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 1: a nine. Even Jamis Winston, who was the backup last year, 156 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 1: kind of a unique backup, right, was the number one 157 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 1: overall pick then became a starter. Now if if Marcus Mariota, 158 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 1: like that guy becomes a backup, okay, But a lot 159 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 1: of time starters just stay starters, and backups stay backups. 160 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 1: The occasional guy can rotate, maybe a Jamison a Mariota. 161 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 1: But like I said, I I think those type guys 162 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 1: are pretty unique cases. We've We've seen a lot of 163 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 1: Heineks have a moment. Now he was good. Look at Walford, 164 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 1: the dude that started for Sean McVeigh, in the playoff 165 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:36,440 Speaker 1: game who got knocked out? I think if you ask 166 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:39,679 Speaker 1: Jan McVeigh over drinks, he'd sing the guy's praises. He 167 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 1: likes the player. If he started sixteen games, would you 168 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 1: like the rams? Probably not. Now you could also argue, John, 169 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:49,839 Speaker 1: you're always preaching like just an opportunity, a shot. You 170 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:52,719 Speaker 1: never know. That's true, But when you look at the 171 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:56,240 Speaker 1: history of the league, you know. I I think those 172 00:08:56,280 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 1: guys are really more outliers of just even when they 173 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 1: have their little moment then guys that could be really 174 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 1: good starters. Mail bad question for you. Every year, my 175 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 1: buddies and I take a boy's football trip to a 176 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 1: new city. Really it's a chance for us the party 177 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 1: for four or five days day that's how long asked 178 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:18,599 Speaker 1: trip and check out a new city culminating in a 179 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 1: football game. We have had some fun ones Miami, New Orleans, Nashville, 180 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 1: and Scottsdale this year. No, you're a big Scottsdale guy. 181 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:30,200 Speaker 1: What are some under the rated city under the radar 182 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 1: cities we may not be thinking of? Also open to 183 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 1: any Scottsdale recommendations. We will be golfing at TPC Stadium. 184 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:41,959 Speaker 1: Badass and maybe Gray Hawk I'm playing this week. Love 185 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:45,200 Speaker 1: the show, keep it up. Scottsdale is a sweet one. 186 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:49,599 Speaker 1: I would say that's a that's a great question. That 187 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:54,200 Speaker 1: really is. I've never been to a New England Patriots game, 188 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:57,079 Speaker 1: and I just think the whole Boston I think that 189 00:09:57,120 --> 00:09:59,679 Speaker 1: would be pretty pretty sweet. Now, depending on the time 190 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:03,200 Speaker 1: of the year, it could be really cold. Uh Philadelphia, 191 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:05,559 Speaker 1: I mean I lived there for a while. It's a 192 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 1: fun atmosphere. Now I don't know how good their team 193 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 1: is gonna be. Um, you know, l A. In Vegas, 194 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 1: I think seeing both those two stadiums would not suck. 195 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:20,320 Speaker 1: I don't know. You could go stay in like Newport 196 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 1: Beach place doesn't suck, right by the water, Manhattan Beach, 197 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 1: hang out, get wasted for a couple of days, play 198 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 1: some golf, then go to the game. You can do 199 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 1: the same obviously Vegas. I think Vegas would have to 200 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 1: be up there and under the radar. If you're going 201 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:39,319 Speaker 1: more for the life experience, then like I don't know 202 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 1: if Green Bay, Wisconsin or Pittsburgh Steeler game works, but 203 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 1: for football standpoint, that would be high. I also had 204 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:51,599 Speaker 1: someone also had someone email me this or dm me 205 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 1: this a while back. And they said they live in Europe, 206 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:57,719 Speaker 1: and I think they look at it like we would like, 207 00:10:57,880 --> 00:11:00,720 Speaker 1: what soccer game do we want to go? Do? Right? 208 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 1: If we were going to like Spain or Italy? And 209 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:06,559 Speaker 1: they say what stadium should I come to for the 210 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 1: for an atmosphere? And I said, honestly, I wouldn't sleep 211 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:15,199 Speaker 1: on college football, Like can you go to Austin and 212 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:16,679 Speaker 1: party for a couple of days and go to a 213 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 1: Texas game? Or go to Tuscaloosa or Baton Rouge or Athens, 214 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 1: Georgia or Gainesville, Florida, Like I think that would be 215 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 1: pretty badass. As someone who hasn't been to any SEC 216 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 1: football games, that would be something I would think about doing. 217 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:37,959 Speaker 1: You go on like Thursday party, Thursday party, Friday, go 218 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 1: to the game Saturday, hell score around Sunday. I believe 219 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:46,439 Speaker 1: that the college atmosphere is better than the NFL, so 220 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:50,839 Speaker 1: I would lean being open minded to that, but I 221 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:54,320 Speaker 1: think Vegas would be up there pretty high. Fox Sports 222 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 1: Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. 223 00:11:57,400 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 1: Catch all of our shows at Fox sports Radio dot 224 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:03,319 Speaker 1: com and within the I Heart Radio app search f 225 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 1: s R to listen live. I'm a Fresno State alumni 226 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:15,080 Speaker 1: and I both hate and respect the Boise State football program. 227 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 1: Besides talent, what would coach Pat Hill attribute their continued 228 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:25,719 Speaker 1: success love the podcast? Well, that's a good question. Uh. 229 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:28,679 Speaker 1: In my experience, when we were a Fresno they were unreal. 230 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 1: They had Chris Peterson, who was an elite coach, So 231 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 1: I would say they went from Dan Hawkins, who then 232 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 1: got a job in the Big Ten, to Chris Peterson, 233 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 1: who was even better. So they're coaching was top notch. 234 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 1: They have very very strict, from what I was told, 235 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 1: recruiting practices. They have things in terms of your background, 236 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:52,319 Speaker 1: your character that they don't really flinch on. They clearly 237 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 1: get a guy who checks a couple of boxes, very tough, 238 00:12:55,960 --> 00:13:00,160 Speaker 1: very smart, and who might never be like, uh, you know, 239 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:03,200 Speaker 1: some five star recruit, But they get guys with upside 240 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 1: and then I just think they're well coached. I think 241 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 1: football matters a lot. There. There's a standard, there's a 242 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 1: culture that everyone kind of falls in line with. When 243 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:15,560 Speaker 1: I was at Fresno State, we had higher level recruits 244 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:18,679 Speaker 1: than them. I even think that we had, you know, 245 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 1: as much talent as them. They just I don't know, 246 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:25,319 Speaker 1: we're more buttoned up I think consistently now they and 247 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:28,080 Speaker 1: they had a great quarterback when I mean Kellen Moore 248 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 1: was an elite college player. Not a good NFL player obviously, 249 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 1: but an elite college player. They've had good quarterbacks. They're 250 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:40,480 Speaker 1: always good on defense. In my experience, like Fresno we struggled. 251 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:43,200 Speaker 1: We weren't very good at defense. I think Nevada over 252 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:44,959 Speaker 1: the years can be hit or miss on defense. We 253 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 1: could score points in Nevatican, score points Boise when they're good. 254 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:51,679 Speaker 1: Their defense is legit. If you have a legit defense 255 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 1: in you know, in the Nonpower five, you're gonna win 256 00:13:55,880 --> 00:13:59,599 Speaker 1: ten games. And also when you get a culture of 257 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 1: like we can play with anybody, we can beat anyone. 258 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:06,439 Speaker 1: When you play Oregon or you know whoever Texas say 259 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:08,120 Speaker 1: and am or I'm just throwing out teams. I mean, 260 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:10,560 Speaker 1: Chris Peterson beat them all. They believe they can win 261 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:14,559 Speaker 1: and they do a lot. So I I think it 262 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 1: comes to intelligence. They've had unreal coaches. They're recruiting is fantastic, 263 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 1: and they keep it in within the family. That's another thing. 264 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 1: And there's a balance at this right You always, to 265 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 1: me want to hire the best person possible. But in 266 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 1: something like football, when they've had when you've had a 267 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:33,440 Speaker 1: lot of success, you want to hire within the family. 268 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 1: It's why when Nick Saban leaves, do you know who 269 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 1: they probably will hire, especially if he has some success 270 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 1: Lane Kiffen. They will want to keep the Nick Saban 271 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 1: program rolling with people that think like Nick Saban. They're 272 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 1: not gonna go outside the box and hire some random coach, 273 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:54,400 Speaker 1: even if he's really good, Like they're not gonna hire 274 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 1: Matt Campbell. Now would they hire Dabbo Sweeney, of course, 275 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 1: but Dabbo does it a lot different than Nick. To 276 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 1: me the guy if Nick leaves, they're higher in lane. 277 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 1: Dan Hawkins left, they hired Chris Peterson. My question is 278 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 1: about paying college football players. Why is it the same 279 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 1: colleges that produce people who are flying drones on the 280 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:18,160 Speaker 1: moon can't figure out a way to pay players that 281 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 1: does not ruin college sports? Why not something simple as 282 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 1: if you graduate. If you graduate, we pay your student 283 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 1: loans and allow them to receive endorsements with a cap 284 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 1: on the amount. The bigger school, the lower the cap. 285 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 1: Am I taking crazy pills. Well, if you're on the 286 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 1: football team, you do not have student loans. Your schools 287 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 1: paid for the elephant in the room is titled nine 288 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 1: and the women. There's equality in college sports that would 289 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 1: not exist in any of our business world. We would not. 290 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 1: And this works, and it's not just the girls. Every 291 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 1: sport beside basketball and football, but mainly football, depending on 292 00:15:56,600 --> 00:16:00,080 Speaker 1: the school, basketball as well doesn't produce any revenue. So 293 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:03,800 Speaker 1: the football program literally pays for your women's and men's 294 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 1: soccer coach or softball coach, your baseball coach, your golf coach, 295 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 1: your track and field coach, and all their scholarships. It 296 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:15,400 Speaker 1: produces all the money to subsidize all these programs. Now, 297 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 1: do is there money to pay these guys? Of course, 298 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 1: but they go to the Supreme Court over title nine, 299 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 1: Like you cannot pay the star quarterback with athletic funds 300 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 1: and not pay the women's striker on the soccer team. 301 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 1: That's not the way it works. When you give shoes 302 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 1: to the men's basketball team, you have to give it 303 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:35,800 Speaker 1: to the women's basketball team and the women's lacrosse team 304 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 1: as well. So it's a complicated business model. To me, 305 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 1: it's simple. Just make your name, image and likeness legal. 306 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 1: Because everyone's like, oh my god, the inequality in college sports. 307 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 1: These people are all gonna get paid on the Internet. 308 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 1: That's where they're gonna get paid. On the Internet. They're 309 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 1: gonna monetize YouTube channels. They're gonna get paid on Instagram. 310 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 1: They're they're not gonna be doing car dealerships for fucking 311 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:59,280 Speaker 1: people watching television locally, Like, that's not the way the 312 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 1: world works. They're gonna get paid on their social media following. 313 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:06,119 Speaker 1: It'll be fine. Honestly, there have been articles the women 314 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:09,840 Speaker 1: will actually benefit. Some of the star women's basketball players 315 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:15,200 Speaker 1: and gymnasts have enormous Instagram followings, Snapchat whatever. They're gonna 316 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:17,960 Speaker 1: get paid that way. But I do think it's complicated. 317 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:21,720 Speaker 1: It's easy for every you know, radical media member to 318 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:24,560 Speaker 1: be like, oh, you gotta pay the right guard, Well, 319 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 1: then you're gonna pay the backup shooting guard for the 320 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 1: women's team because she has You understand the way the 321 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 1: sports set up, that's the way it works. I'm not 322 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:36,200 Speaker 1: anti payan people. I also think it's very naive and 323 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 1: ignorant to think people ain't getting paid. News flash, the 324 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:42,480 Speaker 1: top guys, I mean basketball, we know for a fact. 325 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 1: So I like JA Billis, but j Billis gets on 326 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 1: his high horse like Jay All the top basketball players 327 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 1: have been getting paid since like the sixties. The funk 328 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 1: are we talking about? Stop acting like no one's getting paid. 329 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:56,200 Speaker 1: They're getting paid a premium. Now are the six figure 330 00:17:56,280 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 1: checks going to the parents? Yeah, I mean they should 331 00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 1: go to the kids as well, But the kids are 332 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:04,760 Speaker 1: getting paid the shoot deals and in football. Listen, I 333 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:07,560 Speaker 1: got news for you, the dirty little secret money change 334 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 1: his hands now, should it be more? Possibly? But would 335 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:14,760 Speaker 1: I rather get ten grand in cash than get fifteen grand? 336 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 1: You know that the I R. S Knows about. Listen. 337 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 1: I would. But I'm not a big tax guy, you know, 338 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:23,960 Speaker 1: because everything I do is legal, I get taxed on it. 339 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:28,119 Speaker 1: These these cash payments that get taken care of at 340 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:31,680 Speaker 1: the collegiate level, there's no tax, there's no trail. So 341 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:33,639 Speaker 1: it's yeah, it's kind of shady, to be honest with you, 342 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 1: but that's the world they live in and that's not 343 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 1: gonna stop. Just pay them through their Instagram followings, which 344 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:43,879 Speaker 1: is eventually gonna happen. From Sam Clemente, how is it 345 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:46,679 Speaker 1: that within the last thirty years between five and Rogers, 346 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 1: the packers of two Super Bowls and three and three appearances. 347 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:53,160 Speaker 1: It's a crime. We have to Hall of Fame quarterbacks 348 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 1: and not many rings to show for it. It's very 349 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:59,080 Speaker 1: rare for teams to transition from one grade to another. 350 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 1: I completely agree with the ladder they fell into football Heaven. 351 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:07,440 Speaker 1: They went for Brett Farve, who was one of the 352 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 1: more beloved I don't know, he's not a top five quarterback, 353 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:12,840 Speaker 1: but he's definitely one of the most popular quarterbacks and 354 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 1: just popular athletes in the history of sports. I don't 355 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 1: think any of us would debate that. And then they 356 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 1: go to Aaron Rodgers, who's even better. That's incredible. I 357 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:24,960 Speaker 1: also think the standard and the bar on like they 358 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:28,639 Speaker 1: failed is held a little high because they didn't Tom Brady. 359 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 1: Isn't Tom Brady and Joe Montana what they did are outliers. 360 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:35,479 Speaker 1: How many NFC championships have they been? Do Rogers been 361 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:39,879 Speaker 1: a five? Right? Five? That's a lot four of definitely 362 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 1: went to one because he lost the ELI, so he'd 363 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:45,120 Speaker 1: been to several. Like, they've had a lot of success. 364 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:48,960 Speaker 1: They win every year. They they produce a ton of 365 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:52,480 Speaker 1: money for the franchise, Like it has been very very successful, 366 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:56,639 Speaker 1: right at a one to ten scale. Tend being the Patriots, 367 00:19:56,840 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 1: they've been like an eight, an eight and a half 368 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:02,480 Speaker 1: like that, there's no there are no nines, right. You 369 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 1: can say the same about Peyton Manning. Peyton Manning might 370 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:06,719 Speaker 1: be at probably a nine out of ten if Brady 371 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:09,080 Speaker 1: and really, let's face it, out of a ten, Brady 372 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:11,600 Speaker 1: is like a twelve out of ten. But they're better 373 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:15,399 Speaker 1: than everyone else, Like they've had more success once the 374 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 1: last time Seattle has been to an NFC championship game. 375 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:19,359 Speaker 1: When's the last time the Steeler has been to an 376 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:23,119 Speaker 1: an f C championship game? Like Mahomes they might go 377 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:25,880 Speaker 1: to two Super Bowls and seven years. They are having 378 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:29,000 Speaker 1: a lot of success. So I I think sometimes we 379 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:32,159 Speaker 1: talk about failures like getting the n f C r 380 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 1: a f C Championship game is a failure. That is 381 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 1: not true. Sometimes you gotta look at this, like the 382 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:38,159 Speaker 1: n C Double A tournament. Get in the final four 383 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 1: is a big deal, a big deal. There's only one 384 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:45,240 Speaker 1: champion and Brady accounted for seven of them over twenty years, 385 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:48,359 Speaker 1: and Peyton went to another. What I know, they were 386 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:50,879 Speaker 1: in different conferences, but you get my point, Like Peyton 387 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 1: won two. It's just hard to win them. Long time listener, 388 00:20:57,920 --> 00:21:00,239 Speaker 1: first time sliding into the Damps. I'm a I heard 389 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:02,680 Speaker 1: Browns fan and wondering your take on the team and 390 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:05,800 Speaker 1: more specifically the defense. I feel like the national media 391 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:08,000 Speaker 1: is driving the hype train and I am trying to 392 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:11,360 Speaker 1: get too high on expectations. The d was awful last year, 393 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:14,359 Speaker 1: but with the additions of Clowney, I forgot Clowney's on 394 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 1: the Browns, John Johnson Hill and the rookies, the guys 395 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:20,960 Speaker 1: we are getting back from injury. It's hard not to 396 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:23,960 Speaker 1: be excited. Is there a recent example of a team 397 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 1: that added this much talent on defense? Mesh Well, year one, Well, 398 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:31,360 Speaker 1: if you remember the forty nine Ers, the Super Bowl year, 399 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:33,080 Speaker 1: it just kind of hit and they had the best 400 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 1: defense in the league. And they had added Nick Bosa, 401 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:41,440 Speaker 1: they had added the Ford, they had added uh, I 402 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:43,600 Speaker 1: guess Richard Truman the year before, but he he didn't 403 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 1: play really because he was injured. So yeah, I mean 404 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:48,160 Speaker 1: it happens. But to me, you don't need a top 405 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:51,440 Speaker 1: five defense if your defense is like ten to fifteen 406 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:53,960 Speaker 1: and your offense is really good. The Browns are winning 407 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:56,320 Speaker 1: eleven and twelve games as long as Baker is not 408 00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:59,960 Speaker 1: a train wreck like your expectations in Cleveland one milli 409 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 1: million percent. Playoffs are bust. I don't think at this 410 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:05,440 Speaker 1: point you can say division or bust, though I do 411 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 1: think you can look at it. We can win the 412 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 1: division and that's true. But time to go to the 413 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 1: playoffs again back to back years. That's that's hard, right, 414 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:15,920 Speaker 1: because I think if I ask every Browns fan, they're 415 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 1: super excited, and they should be. They are, They're fired 416 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 1: up for the season. There has to be a little 417 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:23,920 Speaker 1: bit of you, though, that's a little worried is this 418 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 1: too good to be true? Because you know who doesn't 419 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 1: think too good to be true? Winning teams right Seattle, 420 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 1: Kansas City, Pittsburgh, New England, forever, they just Green Bay 421 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:35,960 Speaker 1: just know you're going to the playoffs. I don't think 422 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 1: you know one one playoff birth and what eighteen years 423 00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:41,840 Speaker 1: or whatever. I don't think you think that even though 424 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:46,200 Speaker 1: you know your roster is legit, legit, your coach is 425 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 1: good too. Actually emailed Stefanski, I just got some emails 426 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:54,120 Speaker 1: some different guys. I emailed him to come on the podcast. 427 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 1: He emailed me right back. He's like, actually, I'm gonna decline. 428 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:01,640 Speaker 1: I'm gonna decline. I pre shape that just I'm gonna decline. 429 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 1: I might use that more when I when people ask 430 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:06,240 Speaker 1: me to do stuff if I don't have time, you know, 431 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:09,400 Speaker 1: I would love to, but I have to decline. I'm 432 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:12,640 Speaker 1: over here in Manchester, England, just wondering what your take 433 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:15,200 Speaker 1: is on the Saints this year. There doesn't seem to 434 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:19,120 Speaker 1: be any talk from the media regarding them. Seems strange 435 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:23,600 Speaker 1: considering how important this year is with Breese retiring. I 436 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:26,440 Speaker 1: think the biggest question mark is the quarterback. Is Jameis 437 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:28,840 Speaker 1: Winston going to be their quarterback? Which I all think 438 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:32,280 Speaker 1: we assume he's going to be. Is Jamie's gonna be 439 00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:35,200 Speaker 1: good because it wouldn't shock me if he is. I 440 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 1: actually think the offense is Taylor made for part of 441 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 1: Drew Brees. He got in trouble with Arians when he 442 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:42,639 Speaker 1: was throwing the ball down the field. He throw all 443 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:45,439 Speaker 1: the interceptions. What do they do in with the Saints. 444 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 1: They throw slant and out routes to Michael Thomas, and 445 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:52,480 Speaker 1: they throw screens and wheel routes to Alvin Kamara. They 446 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:55,639 Speaker 1: didn't ask Drew Brees to throw like Patrick Mahomes. He can't. 447 00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:58,639 Speaker 1: Jamis can, but you gotta be careful because I'll throw 448 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:01,280 Speaker 1: it to the other team. I actually think this offense 449 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:04,840 Speaker 1: and Sean Payton is Taylor made for him. They try 450 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:07,000 Speaker 1: to keep everything within like fifteen yards of the line 451 00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:09,680 Speaker 1: of scrimmage. Now maybe they change a little bit with 452 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:13,480 Speaker 1: Famous Jamis, but but I'm really excited. I think they're 453 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:15,680 Speaker 1: gonna be good. I think they're going to compete for 454 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 1: a wild card for sure. My question is what is 455 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:23,240 Speaker 1: your overall opinion on the college football bowl games and 456 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:25,480 Speaker 1: how different they will be in the future with twelve 457 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:29,160 Speaker 1: team playoffs. I don't think we've confirmed the twelve team playoff, 458 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:32,440 Speaker 1: though it seems like we're going there. I mean, things change. 459 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:36,000 Speaker 1: They've been less relevant the last four or five since 460 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:39,360 Speaker 1: the four team playoff. We still watch, you know why, 461 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:42,439 Speaker 1: we gamble on it. Football still gets more eyeballs than 462 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:46,240 Speaker 1: any other sport. So did they ever mean anything? Like? 463 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:49,160 Speaker 1: What did a random ball game mean? In two thousand two, 464 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:51,159 Speaker 1: I went to a couple I went to the New 465 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:53,000 Speaker 1: Mexico Bowl when I was at Fresno State. We went 466 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:56,440 Speaker 1: back to back years. What did those games mean? News 467 00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 1: slash They met nothing. But what they do is they 468 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,840 Speaker 1: at a million people to watch people gamble on them. 469 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:06,240 Speaker 1: They've never met anything. The only games that have really 470 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:09,320 Speaker 1: ever mattered were like the Rose Bowl in the National Championship, 471 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:11,720 Speaker 1: maybe the Sugar Bowl or whatever, you know, depending on 472 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:14,879 Speaker 1: some of the main BCS bowls. BCS bowls have always 473 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:18,080 Speaker 1: felt more important than the other bowls and that won't change. 474 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:21,399 Speaker 1: But I still think, like, you're not gonna watch if 475 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:25,640 Speaker 1: Texas doesn't go to the you know, the the make 476 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 1: it to the playoffs and Michigan doesn't make it to 477 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:31,280 Speaker 1: the playoffs, and it's Texas Michigan. You know, I'm like, 478 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:34,840 Speaker 1: day after Christmas, I'm watching, You're watching. It's on TV, 479 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:38,719 Speaker 1: like we're watching. I think it's just a television product. 480 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:42,680 Speaker 1: With all the additions made by the Cardinals. What do 481 00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:44,920 Speaker 1: you think Kingsbury seat should be a little warmer coming 482 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:47,679 Speaker 1: into the season. Yeah, I mean I I hit her 483 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:50,200 Speaker 1: on an earlier. If they missed the playoffs, I think 484 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 1: everyone there is getting fired. They have the number one 485 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 1: overall pick at quarterback, They have a ton they just 486 00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:58,879 Speaker 1: traded for DeAndre Hopkins last year. They have J. J. 487 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 1: Watt on their team. Now they have back to back 488 00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:04,120 Speaker 1: top Yeah. I guess Collins wasn't a top ten pick, 489 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 1: but he's a guy that I know my friends in 490 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 1: the NFL thinks a stud Now you better avoid trouble. 491 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:13,800 Speaker 1: You've the last two years you've had a J. J. 492 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 1: Watt Collins the middle linebacker. You add Isaiah Simmons like 493 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:21,600 Speaker 1: it's time kind of time to shoot or get off 494 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:24,720 Speaker 1: the pot. Here's the main problem. Their division is loaded. 495 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:29,720 Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan beat their ass with C. J. Bethard last 496 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:32,080 Speaker 1: year in a game they had to win, kicked his butt, 497 00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:35,879 Speaker 1: worked them. They got kicked out of their county. They 498 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:39,440 Speaker 1: were literally living in Arizona. Played him in Arizona and 499 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 1: kicked his butt. So I I'm just not into that scheme. 500 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:46,520 Speaker 1: It's just I'm anti the scheme. I do not think 501 00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:50,520 Speaker 1: it translates to winning. It seems like a few gms 502 00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:53,000 Speaker 1: have figured it out. How does the NFL keep teams 503 00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:55,200 Speaker 1: honest with the salary cap? Do they have some sort 504 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:58,200 Speaker 1: of internal NFL I R s that oddess? Teams could 505 00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:00,840 Speaker 1: owners pay players under the table or a portion another 506 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:03,280 Speaker 1: salary through one of their many businesses to stay under 507 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:06,360 Speaker 1: the cap and keep keep an awesome player. By the way, 508 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:09,719 Speaker 1: my wife might hate you. Pretty sure my three year 509 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:13,240 Speaker 1: old learned the effort from you. Well, let's face, and 510 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:16,200 Speaker 1: he's gonna learn it sooner or later. That's a good question. 511 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:18,680 Speaker 1: I don't I'd have to. I could text someone and 512 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:21,880 Speaker 1: find the answer. The league signs off on everything. They 513 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:26,360 Speaker 1: clearly have an internal accountant or you know, uh system 514 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 1: with the league office. You cannot circumvent the salary cap. 515 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:32,640 Speaker 1: It's impossible, right in terms of you can't go over 516 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:36,720 Speaker 1: the salary cap. It's illegal. Every team follows that. Technically, yes, 517 00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:40,480 Speaker 1: you could pay people under the table. You could do that. 518 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:43,479 Speaker 1: If you got caught, let's say, paying a player ten 519 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:47,000 Speaker 1: million dollars you know, on your salary cap, and then 520 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:50,200 Speaker 1: paying him another fifteen million dollars, you would get in 521 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:53,320 Speaker 1: big trouble. They would take away first round picks. So 522 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:56,960 Speaker 1: I don't think anyone necessarily risked that, though you would 523 00:27:57,000 --> 00:28:05,119 Speaker 1: be naive to think that that hasn't gone before. So 524 00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:08,160 Speaker 1: much attention this offseason has been on the Rogers drama. 525 00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:10,680 Speaker 1: But let's assume he is the Packers quarterback Week one. 526 00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:13,560 Speaker 1: Have the Packers done anything this offseason to get closer 527 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 1: to getting over the NFC Championship game hump? Well, they 528 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:20,840 Speaker 1: hosted the game last year. The resigned Aaron Jones Davante 529 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:23,199 Speaker 1: is a dominant player. They bring back most of their 530 00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:26,600 Speaker 1: guys on defense. I mean to me, they're them in 531 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:29,480 Speaker 1: Tampa would be the clear favorites. I'd have them above 532 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:33,840 Speaker 1: above the Rams. I like Stafford, but I've seen the 533 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:38,560 Speaker 1: Packers kick Staffords asked for years if Rogers is their quarterback. 534 00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:41,680 Speaker 1: To me, it's a coin flip between them and the Bucks. Again, 535 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:45,480 Speaker 1: they hosted the game. Now you the Bucks a year in. 536 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:48,360 Speaker 1: They could be better this year, but I think Green 537 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:51,880 Speaker 1: Bay would be right there. What are your thoughts on 538 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:54,640 Speaker 1: the Niners. Tray will be implemented into the game this year, 539 00:28:54,720 --> 00:29:01,360 Speaker 1: not including injuries for Jimmy G. Well, to me, it depends, Uh, 540 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:05,000 Speaker 1: if Jimmy G is playing well, he's gonna keep starting. 541 00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 1: If they're winning games and he's playing well, he's gonna start. 542 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 1: If Jimmy struggles and they think Tray is ready, it 543 00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:13,960 Speaker 1: could happen week two. It could be happen week eight. 544 00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:17,960 Speaker 1: Like Kyle bench Jimmy all the time last year, he 545 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:21,840 Speaker 1: will not hesitate. They are trying desperately to make the playoffs. 546 00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:25,320 Speaker 1: That they're all in on making the playoffs. So it'll 547 00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:28,400 Speaker 1: just come down to, like if you said, not factoring injuries. 548 00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:31,440 Speaker 1: If Jimmy sucks, if they have a game and they 549 00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:34,760 Speaker 1: lose and he's not good, the talk will be Trey 550 00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:38,400 Speaker 1: Land start next week and it'll feel valid and Kyle 551 00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:42,400 Speaker 1: will do it. So it could happen quickly. If Jimmy 552 00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:45,640 Speaker 1: slow out the gate, it could happen mid season. But 553 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:48,520 Speaker 1: if Jimmy is good and they're winning, then it might 554 00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:52,400 Speaker 1: not happen for a minute. With the addition of the 555 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:55,160 Speaker 1: seventh playoff team and a seven teenth regular season game, 556 00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:58,520 Speaker 1: it seems logical the next step will be expansion. Do 557 00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:00,680 Speaker 1: you see the NFL eventually make can get the thirty 558 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:03,600 Speaker 1: four or thirty six teams? I I don't. They don't 559 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:06,320 Speaker 1: have enough quarterbacks. That to me is the key. You 560 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:09,000 Speaker 1: have to have good quarterbacks. If you don't have good quarterbacks, 561 00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:13,040 Speaker 1: the product sucks. There aren't thirty two good quarterbacks. They 562 00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:15,440 Speaker 1: don't need to expand they just signed a hundred and 563 00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:19,080 Speaker 1: ten billion dollar television deal. They're on top of the world. 564 00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:22,760 Speaker 1: What what major cities are we not in now? Could 565 00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:24,960 Speaker 1: you expand internationally? But that's a pain in the ass. 566 00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:29,840 Speaker 1: I think they're in the long haul with this with 567 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:33,280 Speaker 1: the group they have and the quarterbacks just being limited now, 568 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:37,520 Speaker 1: more quarterbacks become Like if if the league has where 569 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:39,960 Speaker 1: you have like five Steve Youngs's backups, which I don't 570 00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:42,560 Speaker 1: think it's ever gonna happen, then then we could talk. 571 00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:47,480 Speaker 1: But as of right now, I would say no. Listen 572 00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:52,080 Speaker 1: to Pod. My question for you is the NFL teams 573 00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:55,760 Speaker 1: offer a guarantee sign signing bonus for max players in 574 00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:58,560 Speaker 1: a minimum salary to go against the salary cap. That 575 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:02,000 Speaker 1: way teams can pay these big stars yet minimal impact 576 00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:04,760 Speaker 1: on the cap. That's what happens now. So when you 577 00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:07,280 Speaker 1: see a contract side for a hundred fifty million dollars, 578 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:11,120 Speaker 1: they give them seventy sixty million dollars up front. The 579 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:13,800 Speaker 1: first couple of years typically on the cap are small 580 00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:17,040 Speaker 1: because they amortize it and push it down. The Saints 581 00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:19,240 Speaker 1: did this for years. Kick the can down the road. 582 00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:22,719 Speaker 1: The big capit like, there's a reason Drew Brees, Dez Bryant, 583 00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:26,240 Speaker 1: Tony Romo, all the rich teams they push the money back. 584 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:28,760 Speaker 1: They give the upfront money because then they can put 585 00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:30,719 Speaker 1: it on their books for three or four years, kind 586 00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:33,120 Speaker 1: of like a credit card. But eventually the credit card 587 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:36,280 Speaker 1: comes due, and that's the problem. So you you can 588 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:38,520 Speaker 1: do that, but it's still eventually gonna hit your books. 589 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:41,400 Speaker 1: If I give you a hundred million dollar signing bonus 590 00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:44,160 Speaker 1: and you have a hundred and twenty million dollar contract, 591 00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:48,000 Speaker 1: depending on if it's four or five years, I have 592 00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:50,040 Speaker 1: to put all that money on my books at some 593 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:52,600 Speaker 1: point in time. So I can put fifty million dollars 594 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:55,160 Speaker 1: on the books in four years, but that's eventually gonna 595 00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:58,720 Speaker 1: hit my books, right, And that's just the nature of accounting, 596 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:02,960 Speaker 1: which is why the good teams are really good at accounting, right. 597 00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:05,280 Speaker 1: And some teams you can't even avoid it because you'll 598 00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:08,160 Speaker 1: always you know, go all in on the present to 599 00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:10,720 Speaker 1: worry about the future later. If your team's good, that 600 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:15,240 Speaker 1: is the right move. Appreciate everyone listening. Have a great 601 00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:18,560 Speaker 1: next couple of weeks. I'll be on Instagram. I'll be 602 00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:21,320 Speaker 1: instagram and a lot so you can follow me there 603 00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:24,960 Speaker 1: at John Middlecoff the next week and a half and 604 00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:29,240 Speaker 1: um and yeah, have a great fourth of July and 605 00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:31,760 Speaker 1: let's get ready for football season, baby Audios.