WEBVTT - EP 116: No-Limit To The Hustle 0:00:00.800 --> 0:00:06.000 When I wrote, y'all all across the usc Compton Motts, 0:00:06.360 --> 0:00:10.680 thank to l A. Come on the California the Valley. 0:00:11.280 --> 0:00:14.200 We represent that kind of county. So if you're keeping 0:00:14.200 --> 0:00:16.840 it rail on your side of your town, you tune 0:00:16.880 --> 0:00:22.120 into Gangster Chronicles Gangster Chronic Goals. We're gonna tell you 0:00:22.160 --> 0:00:25.479 how we go. If I lie my nose a girl 0:00:25.520 --> 0:00:27.720 like Pinocchio, We're gonna tell you the truth and nothing 0:00:27.760 --> 0:00:31.680 but the truth Gangster Chronic Goals. This is not your 0:00:31.840 --> 0:00:36.320 average show. You're now tuned into the Rail. M c A, 0:00:36.520 --> 0:00:45.080 Dick James and mix Staires from the streets. Hello, Welcome 0:00:45.120 --> 0:00:47.760 to the Gangster Chronicles podcast, the production of My Heart 0:00:47.840 --> 0:00:51.159 Radio and Black Effect Podcast Network. Make sure you download 0:00:51.200 --> 0:00:53.760 the I Heard happen. Subscribe to The Gangster Chronicles for 0:00:53.840 --> 0:00:56.400 my Apple users, hit the purple mica on your front screen. 0:00:56.440 --> 0:00:58.600 Subscribe to The Gangster Chronicles and leave a five star 0:00:58.720 --> 0:01:01.320 rate in the comment. We like to welcome everyone to 0:01:01.400 --> 0:01:04.320 another episode against the Chronicles podcast. And I'm with my 0:01:04.360 --> 0:01:09.080 brothers Big j J and Um. You know it was 0:01:09.120 --> 0:01:11.679 a period of time man, back in the late nineties, 0:01:11.760 --> 0:01:15.200 and uh, I would say, from the late nineties on 0:01:16.440 --> 0:01:19.240 you know mid nineties kind of to the early two thousand's. 0:01:19.280 --> 0:01:24.560 Man Master P had a chokehold on rapping, a serious 0:01:24.640 --> 0:01:26.680 chokehold on rap, and it just kind of just can't 0:01:26.680 --> 0:01:28.479 you can't say it came from out of nowhere because 0:01:28.480 --> 0:01:30.760 he just kind of just crept on up. And I 0:01:30.800 --> 0:01:33.400 remember every No Limit record that you would go by. 0:01:33.640 --> 0:01:35.480 You look on the back of the album covering, you 0:01:35.520 --> 0:01:37.800 see all these different cats you never heard of about 0:01:37.800 --> 0:01:40.240 to come with albums. You'd be like, Man, it just 0:01:40.319 --> 0:01:43.920 made you interested in knowing who these different artists. Was 0:01:44.040 --> 0:01:46.760 called Duggery Fiend and you know these dudes you never 0:01:46.800 --> 0:01:49.240 heard of me a x Mr serve On and all 0:01:49.280 --> 0:01:52.000 these different people and one of them people with somebody 0:01:52.040 --> 0:01:54.720 from Kansas City, Missouri named Big Court and we got 0:01:54.840 --> 0:01:59.880 them live in the hot seat tonight. Yeah, what's going on? Well, 0:02:00.520 --> 0:02:02.160 backing with you, man, I'm glad to be here, bro 0:02:02.600 --> 0:02:04.520 Man for sure. Man, we lead half you man, because 0:02:04.560 --> 0:02:07.760 I got a lot of I really want to get 0:02:07.800 --> 0:02:10.560 your perspective on a lot of different things, man, because 0:02:11.600 --> 0:02:13.600 you're one of the people that kind of like made 0:02:13.600 --> 0:02:17.320 it from rap and took advantage of all opportunities you 0:02:17.400 --> 0:02:19.639 hadn't rap and started to get into some whole other 0:02:19.680 --> 0:02:22.000 stuff that we had talked about, you know, real estate 0:02:22.560 --> 0:02:25.000 and just other different things that you know, the average 0:02:25.040 --> 0:02:26.760 dude and thinking about that. Man when you get a 0:02:26.760 --> 0:02:29.000 record contract, man, and you know, you just think about 0:02:29.000 --> 0:02:33.360 getting them some jewelry. Right, So that was your position. Yeah, 0:02:33.520 --> 0:02:38.360 I signed with Yeah, I wouldn't like this all the time. Man. 0:02:38.480 --> 0:02:42.120 I was never secured to think about it. Bro. I 0:02:42.160 --> 0:02:45.040 signed with P right out of high school. I was 0:02:46.240 --> 0:02:48.440 you know what I'm saying. This was ninety five, So 0:02:48.520 --> 0:02:51.240 now I played basketball, right, Everybody think I was like this, 0:02:51.280 --> 0:02:52.960 but I wasn't. You know what I I say. I didn't 0:02:53.000 --> 0:02:54.919 start I didn't pick up a wait till I was thirty. 0:02:55.000 --> 0:02:58.639 Run Sure you guys, if y'all see this brother, this 0:02:58.720 --> 0:03:01.400 brother is on swoll right, Yeah, you got like pop 0:03:01.480 --> 0:03:04.480 my arm. Yeah. You know what. The strange thing about 0:03:04.480 --> 0:03:07.040 me working out, like to be honest with you, like 0:03:07.600 --> 0:03:09.760 I was doing I was. I was really doing some 0:03:09.800 --> 0:03:13.679 ship I wasn't supposed to be doing, and and I 0:03:13.720 --> 0:03:16.280 was moving in such a way where mentally I was 0:03:16.360 --> 0:03:18.680 kind of like, I guess I could say in the 0:03:18.680 --> 0:03:21.040 back of my mind getting sell block. Ready, you know 0:03:21.080 --> 0:03:23.240 what I'm saying like that was part of my motivation. 0:03:23.320 --> 0:03:26.560 You felt like that at the time, you know what 0:03:26.600 --> 0:03:29.680 I'm saying, because I still you know, I always was 0:03:29.720 --> 0:03:32.120 able to have the duality. I was always able to 0:03:32.280 --> 0:03:34.600 you know what I'm saying too, like I had. I 0:03:34.639 --> 0:03:36.560 was making money in music, but I was moving in 0:03:36.640 --> 0:03:40.600 the street too. And you know, sometimes when you get 0:03:40.640 --> 0:03:44.040 money and it becomes so easy, you feel like, oh, yeah, 0:03:44.120 --> 0:03:46.520 they watched me. They just let me just dig my ditch. 0:03:47.720 --> 0:03:49.880 And I felt like it was right around the corner, 0:03:49.960 --> 0:03:53.200 you know what I mean. And so I just you know, 0:03:53.880 --> 0:03:56.280 I literally just start you know, That's why I started 0:03:56.280 --> 0:03:59.280 buying real estate. I started kind of like mentally preparing 0:03:59.320 --> 0:04:02.119 myself thinking that, you know, ship that other shoe gonna drop, 0:04:02.200 --> 0:04:03.960 you know what I mean. So, yeah, that's how that 0:04:04.080 --> 0:04:06.840 came about. So you started doing let's go back, go 0:04:07.200 --> 0:04:10.680 back into the repea for sure, how you bumping the master? 0:04:11.840 --> 0:04:16.680 Um Man? That story crazy, bro, Like, um um, you 0:04:16.680 --> 0:04:18.480 know I'm in Kansas City. I didn't even know who 0:04:18.480 --> 0:04:21.080 p was, you know what I'm saying, Like, Uh, this 0:04:21.200 --> 0:04:24.000 dude Romeo right now used to cut my hair, um 0:04:24.040 --> 0:04:26.160 even as a kid, you know, and he used to 0:04:26.200 --> 0:04:29.480 brain like regional talent to the city and I remember 0:04:29.520 --> 0:04:31.120 him telling me, man, I'm gonna bring this dude name 0:04:31.160 --> 0:04:33.160 master P I and I was like it was master P. 0:04:33.320 --> 0:04:34.680 I don't know. I ain't never heard of that, you 0:04:34.760 --> 0:04:38.000 know what I mean? And so long story short, me 0:04:38.400 --> 0:04:41.320 and uh partner of mine, Cisco, We was part of 0:04:41.320 --> 0:04:44.400 a group you know what I'm saying, called CCG. So 0:04:44.480 --> 0:04:48.440 we was local at the time. And I'm like sixteen fifteen, sixteen, 0:04:48.920 --> 0:04:51.359 and um, really, to be honest with you, man, I 0:04:51.400 --> 0:04:53.839 just started sending tapes out. I started looking at all 0:04:53.839 --> 0:04:56.440 the dresses on the back of the tapes. I sent 0:04:56.520 --> 0:04:58.560 ship the Ruthless Man. I used to bug this ship 0:04:58.560 --> 0:05:00.280 out of Ruthless. It was his chick up there in 0:05:00.360 --> 0:05:05.920 name Cassandra where you know she is, James, Yeah, because man, 0:05:05.960 --> 0:05:07.640 I got to know that chick. I used to call 0:05:07.720 --> 0:05:10.240 so much, you know what I'm saying. A matter of fact, eight, 0:05:10.480 --> 0:05:12.680 I sent some ship to you and I think your 0:05:12.680 --> 0:05:16.240 attorney back then, Yeah, this is when you dropped the 0:05:16.279 --> 0:05:20.279 album where you had on the slacks and uh last 0:05:20.320 --> 0:05:23.840 man stand there. So I'm in Kansas City. You know, 0:05:23.880 --> 0:05:25.560 I grew up on all these guys, so I'm just 0:05:25.560 --> 0:05:27.680 trying to get on. We don't got no industry, ain't 0:05:27.680 --> 0:05:30.280 no Internet, ain't no information. You know what I'm saying. 0:05:30.440 --> 0:05:34.200 Strange wasn't around back then. Strange wasn't even thought of, 0:05:34.400 --> 0:05:36.360 you know what I mean. You're talking about ninety four 0:05:36.560 --> 0:05:39.080 ninety five. So ruthless is where I wanted to go. 0:05:39.279 --> 0:05:41.160 So I used to call all the time trying to 0:05:41.200 --> 0:05:44.719 get in touch with Easy. Uh. Finally Easy got to 0:05:44.760 --> 0:05:48.440 tape and she was like, yeah, Easy like y'all tape whatever. Whatever. 0:05:48.880 --> 0:05:52.600 He died. I think it was in March something like that. 0:05:53.560 --> 0:05:56.480 So then I got back on the hunt and just 0:05:56.520 --> 0:05:58.680 bugged the ship out of p BRO. I just was 0:05:58.760 --> 0:06:01.320 calling his voicemail, just filling it up. I was on 0:06:01.520 --> 0:06:03.600 rap a lot, all them. So he the one that 0:06:03.640 --> 0:06:06.120 went't got to tape. He liked it. He was like, man, 0:06:06.360 --> 0:06:07.880 you know, I want to funk with y'all. I want 0:06:07.880 --> 0:06:10.560 to fly you'all out. So the first record he put 0:06:10.640 --> 0:06:13.400 us on was down South Hustlers, which went gold, you 0:06:13.440 --> 0:06:15.159 know what I mean, and then ship it was on 0:06:15.279 --> 0:06:19.200 from there. Yeah. I just got off house arrest. I 0:06:19.240 --> 0:06:22.240 was living with my father at the time because um 0:06:22.279 --> 0:06:24.720 I was in UM I had been in juvenile and 0:06:24.760 --> 0:06:27.520 you know, juvenile court, at least in Missouri, it worked 0:06:27.560 --> 0:06:30.279 kind of like family court because I didn't get uh certified, 0:06:30.520 --> 0:06:32.400 They was gonna certify me and give me what they 0:06:32.400 --> 0:06:35.080 called juvenile life and didn't keep me till I was 0:06:35.160 --> 0:06:38.240 like eighteen. I think it was eighteen or twenty one 0:06:38.279 --> 0:06:41.240 that sent me to prison. But I end up looking out. 0:06:41.440 --> 0:06:43.719 They took me from my mind maybe live with my dad. 0:06:44.120 --> 0:06:47.080 So I had just you know, because my lawyer was like, uh, 0:06:47.080 --> 0:06:49.320 you know, he got a father, got a job. You know, 0:06:49.320 --> 0:06:53.719 he played that game, and so uh yeah, ship, you 0:06:53.760 --> 0:06:56.159 know what I mean. They got lucky. I got super lucky, 0:06:57.200 --> 0:06:59.480 super lucky bro beagon. I knew a lot of people 0:06:59.560 --> 0:07:02.680 luck to the thinking about Missouri. But Missouri, yeah, it's 0:07:02.760 --> 0:07:05.400 one of the cities in the Midwest that got like 0:07:05.480 --> 0:07:07.880 a lot of old l a gags in the city. 0:07:08.760 --> 0:07:11.080 They got bloods out that they got crips out there, 0:07:11.360 --> 0:07:13.480 and they've been doing it since the eighties. Yeah, I 0:07:13.520 --> 0:07:15.840 watched it. I literally watched it come into the city 0:07:15.880 --> 0:07:18.440 because you know, I was born in seventy six, so 0:07:18.520 --> 0:07:22.080 you figure, you know, eighty six, eight seven, eighty eight, 0:07:22.400 --> 0:07:24.040 you know, I'm a kid on my bike. You know 0:07:24.040 --> 0:07:26.120 what I'm saying, I'm just a regular kid. I ain't 0:07:26.120 --> 0:07:28.800 exposed to nothing, you know what I'm saying. Like I 0:07:28.840 --> 0:07:30.840 grew up in the hood, but I came from a 0:07:30.920 --> 0:07:33.120 good household. You know what I'm saying. I'm an only child, 0:07:33.200 --> 0:07:35.720 so I came from a loving house, like I don't 0:07:35.760 --> 0:07:38.880 have you know what I mean. Like, but what happened 0:07:38.920 --> 0:07:43.400 is you start seeing, um, the influx of a you know, 0:07:43.440 --> 0:07:45.680 a lot of niggas from the West Coast, you know, 0:07:45.840 --> 0:07:47.880 coming to the city and that you know what I mean, 0:07:47.920 --> 0:07:50.800 They hustling, and so a lot of the niggas from 0:07:50.800 --> 0:07:54.400 my city, whoever they was copying from, that's who they 0:07:54.440 --> 0:07:57.200 aligned themselves with. It was a lot of sixties and 0:07:57.240 --> 0:08:00.600 a lot of East Coast that came down there, and uh, 0:08:00.680 --> 0:08:03.560 my neighborhood, you know, got colonized. I guess you could 0:08:03.560 --> 0:08:06.600 say it became a crib neighborhood. Like we're tech is 0:08:06.640 --> 0:08:10.160 from technology from the fifties. A lot of brams came, 0:08:10.400 --> 0:08:12.320 you know what I'm saying, to his section. So all 0:08:12.360 --> 0:08:15.240 the niggas that was getting their work from them became bloods, 0:08:15.280 --> 0:08:17.760 you know what I'm saying. So that's kind of high. 0:08:18.000 --> 0:08:20.080 I watched it, you know what I mean. And so 0:08:20.160 --> 0:08:24.120 now the older niggas, that's that's getting money. You know, 0:08:24.280 --> 0:08:26.320 I'm having to deal with their little brothers because their 0:08:26.360 --> 0:08:28.920 little brothers trying to emulate them, you know what I'm saying. 0:08:29.320 --> 0:08:32.320 So now my hood, So what happens is I start 0:08:32.400 --> 0:08:35.920 to become um sucked into it, you know what I mean, 0:08:35.960 --> 0:08:38.960 just because the environment starts to become hostile. I was 0:08:39.040 --> 0:08:42.480 never like active, you know, but because you grow up there, 0:08:43.000 --> 0:08:44.960 you get sucked in, you know what I mean. So 0:08:45.280 --> 0:08:47.800 I'm with the homies ship. A couple of my homies 0:08:47.880 --> 0:08:50.360 might be fighting on crip or whatever, but I'm just 0:08:50.360 --> 0:08:53.120 fighting because they're my friends. But it don't look like that, 0:08:53.200 --> 0:08:55.080 you know what I'm saying. When it's like that, guilty, 0:08:58.520 --> 0:09:01.440 you know, like you you fighting with them niggers, then 0:09:01.520 --> 0:09:06.600 you from they set. You come from a good home. 0:09:06.760 --> 0:09:09.080 I did. You didn't have to do that. I didn't, 0:09:09.240 --> 0:09:11.280 but didn't you had to go outside that I had 0:09:11.320 --> 0:09:14.280 to go outside the environment. Yeah, that's what I want 0:09:14.360 --> 0:09:19.480 people to understand. Yeah, you had outside took over. My 0:09:19.600 --> 0:09:23.280 daddy can't protect you, you know what I'm saying. So 0:09:23.360 --> 0:09:26.160 when I'm going to the park to play basketball, play football, 0:09:26.480 --> 0:09:29.400 and just in the environment I got. I gotta you know, 0:09:29.720 --> 0:09:32.000 I have to maintain out there. You know. Now my 0:09:32.040 --> 0:09:34.240 mother was loving, but you know, my mother used to 0:09:34.280 --> 0:09:36.800 tell me, I'm raising no pussies, So you know, I 0:09:37.160 --> 0:09:40.880 still had to you know. She she made me line 0:09:40.880 --> 0:09:42.679 it up a few times, you know what I'm saying. 0:09:43.160 --> 0:09:46.760 So she wasn't having that. But I literally watched our city, 0:09:46.920 --> 0:09:49.680 you know, and it got bad probably about the early nineties, 0:09:49.800 --> 0:09:53.280 you know what I'm saying. It really took off down there. Know, yeah, 0:09:53.440 --> 0:09:55.360 it was off down there. There was a lot of money. 0:09:55.760 --> 0:09:57.480 You know, everybody was getting it back then, you know. 0:09:57.800 --> 0:09:59.920 You know, shouted to my boy, you know, money Green, 0:10:00.200 --> 0:10:03.640 Snug know some cats out there. You know, Rodney money 0:10:03.640 --> 0:10:08.160 Green was on the on the red side. He read side, Yeah, Snug, 0:10:08.800 --> 0:10:11.400 he was over there with taking them from the cats. Yeah, 0:10:11.559 --> 0:10:13.640 that was all. Yeah. They they real dudes, you know 0:10:13.640 --> 0:10:16.880 what I'm saying that they're great dudes. And uh Rodney. 0:10:17.120 --> 0:10:19.800 Rodney was a hustler. He didn't you know what I'm saying. 0:10:20.160 --> 0:10:22.400 He wasn't with that, but he was getting money a 0:10:22.400 --> 0:10:28.400 long time. Yeah, Rodney was getting Kansas City, Rodney money 0:10:28.440 --> 0:10:34.200 Green Yeah, don't need money yeah Roney Rodney, Yeah yeah, 0:10:35.480 --> 0:10:38.600 I just saying Rodney probably about a year ago. Um, 0:10:38.640 --> 0:10:40.559 I was looking at a hot matter of fact, because 0:10:40.720 --> 0:10:43.560 he was doing he does real estate as well, and 0:10:43.600 --> 0:10:45.880 we was both being on the same house. It was 0:10:45.920 --> 0:10:48.080 like three hundred something housand. He was trying to get it, 0:10:48.400 --> 0:10:51.959 I think, just to do something with it or whatever. Yeah, 0:10:52.080 --> 0:10:55.800 we get them from your statement, all this magnificent stuff 0:10:55.840 --> 0:10:58.000 that you're doing, but we're staying back. We had to 0:10:58.040 --> 0:10:59.920 stay in the gutter for it just a little bit longer. 0:11:00.040 --> 0:11:01.280 Know what I means. I want to take it up 0:11:01.559 --> 0:11:04.640 for show. So you and your crime man, you're sending 0:11:05.040 --> 0:11:07.920 you know what, man, that's funny. We'd be used to 0:11:07.960 --> 0:11:11.959 send tapes are demos to record company addresses on the 0:11:12.040 --> 0:11:14.280 back and ship you know what I mean, trying to 0:11:14.280 --> 0:11:17.679 get some money. But so you plugged up with Pete. 0:11:18.720 --> 0:11:21.679 Your whole life changed after that? Like what happened next? Like, 0:11:22.200 --> 0:11:26.920 um no, not really, not like that. Um well, so 0:11:27.120 --> 0:11:30.839 my my situation with Pete was unique, bro, because like 0:11:31.000 --> 0:11:33.560 I signed with Pete, we did the Downs House Hustlers. 0:11:34.200 --> 0:11:35.920 I was, like I said, I was a part of 0:11:35.960 --> 0:11:40.400 a duo. So me and P we we established the 0:11:40.480 --> 0:11:43.800 relationship before we actually got to Oakland. I've been talking 0:11:43.800 --> 0:11:46.880 to him for months. My partner had never talked to him. 0:11:46.960 --> 0:11:48.839 So they was kind of like, you know what I'm saying, 0:11:48.840 --> 0:11:52.000 strangers when we met for the first time. Uh, him 0:11:52.040 --> 0:11:54.440 and my partner really didn't They didn't like each other, 0:11:54.840 --> 0:11:56.720 you know what I mean. And so we had a 0:11:56.760 --> 0:11:59.640 manager at the time who he didn't know Ship, but 0:11:59.679 --> 0:12:01.480 he knew more than us. He was a little older 0:12:01.480 --> 0:12:06.760 than us, and so my partner kind of, you know, 0:12:06.840 --> 0:12:09.560 gravitated towards the manager. I really didn't like him either, 0:12:09.840 --> 0:12:12.160 you know what I'm saying. I gravitated towards peace. So 0:12:12.280 --> 0:12:17.760 there was this kind of you know what I'm saying, Yeah, 0:12:17.800 --> 0:12:20.520 you know what I'm saying. So P he literally came 0:12:20.559 --> 0:12:22.560 and got me one day. It was like, Bro checked 0:12:22.640 --> 0:12:25.200 us out. I funk with you, but I don't like 0:12:25.320 --> 0:12:28.000 the mother niggers, So, uh, you know what I'm saying, 0:12:28.480 --> 0:12:31.400 What you wanta do? What you gotta understand. You know, 0:12:31.520 --> 0:12:34.400 I come from a game mentality too, So I was like, 0:12:34.480 --> 0:12:38.000 with damn big Bro, respectfully, you know, uh, Ship, you 0:12:38.040 --> 0:12:40.440 gotta take both of us you know, I came out 0:12:40.440 --> 0:12:42.280 here with him, so I'm gonna leave with him, you 0:12:42.360 --> 0:12:45.280 know what I mean. And so that's what it was. 0:12:45.559 --> 0:12:47.800 You know, I end up going back to Kansas City 0:12:48.040 --> 0:12:50.640 with my partner, you know what I'm saying. But me 0:12:50.720 --> 0:12:54.600 and Pete always kept a relationship. So what he did 0:12:54.640 --> 0:12:58.920 that was solid is I created a label and I 0:12:58.960 --> 0:13:02.400 started putting out into Pendent records. What he did he 0:13:02.559 --> 0:13:06.199 used his influence to basically, you know I say influence, 0:13:06.320 --> 0:13:09.080 you know what I'm saying, to basically make like the 0:13:09.160 --> 0:13:12.240 distributors Southwest City Hall. You know all that ship select 0:13:12.240 --> 0:13:15.559 though to pay me upfront for whatever I got pressed up. 0:13:15.960 --> 0:13:18.720 So if I got fifty thousand units pressed up, which 0:13:18.760 --> 0:13:22.120 I did, they paid me seven dollars up front, you 0:13:22.120 --> 0:13:26.680 know what I'm saying. So I'm like eighteen nineteen, that's 0:13:27.720 --> 0:13:32.079 right there, exactly exactly. So I'm getting three four hundred 0:13:32.080 --> 0:13:34.320 thousand dollars, you know what I'm saying off for record. 0:13:34.360 --> 0:13:36.040 That's why I was putting them out so much, you 0:13:36.040 --> 0:13:38.199 know what I'm saying. And I mean that ship came 0:13:38.200 --> 0:13:40.480 back to bite me because nobody explained taxes and ship 0:13:40.520 --> 0:13:42.959 to me. But you know what I'm saying, I'm thinking 0:13:43.000 --> 0:13:46.080 all that ship mine, you know, but you published at 0:13:46.120 --> 0:13:49.800 the time. Yeah, he was up until probably the early 0:13:49.840 --> 0:13:52.400 two thousand's, you know what I'm saying. He kind of, 0:13:52.640 --> 0:13:54.840 you know, started wanting to go in a different direction 0:13:54.920 --> 0:13:57.000 in life, and you know, and then I kept it 0:13:57.080 --> 0:13:59.320 moving as a solo artist, you know. But me and 0:13:59.360 --> 0:14:02.120 pe all ways was like brothers, you know what I'm saying. 0:14:02.480 --> 0:14:05.920 So so my journey was different, you know what I'm saying. 0:14:05.960 --> 0:14:08.440 With No Limit, even though I was always synonymous with 0:14:08.520 --> 0:14:12.440 No Limit, but I just didn't. I never technically put 0:14:12.440 --> 0:14:14.720 a record. I don't know, but it was a whole 0:14:14.800 --> 0:14:16.520 bunch of people. You ain't the only one that didn't 0:14:16.559 --> 0:14:19.680 put a bricket off. But I know this, p always 0:14:19.680 --> 0:14:21.360 missed what you want to business said. I thought she 0:14:21.440 --> 0:14:25.760 was an executive over there. The show exactly met a 0:14:25.760 --> 0:14:27.960 lot of other ship you know what I'm saying. Like music, 0:14:28.040 --> 0:14:29.760 It was just like he'd be like court Man, go 0:14:29.920 --> 0:14:31.160 you know what I'm saying, You don't need to do 0:14:31.200 --> 0:14:33.080 all that, Go and go get your money over there, 0:14:33.160 --> 0:14:34.880 you know what I mean. It was it just worked 0:14:34.920 --> 0:14:37.160 and I was always kind of you know what i mean, 0:14:37.280 --> 0:14:40.200 my own boss and and autonomous like that. You know 0:14:40.200 --> 0:14:41.640 what I'm saying. I kind of moved to the beat 0:14:41.640 --> 0:14:44.440 of my own drum even way back then, you know. Now, 0:14:44.480 --> 0:14:46.880 don't get me wrong, he always was big bro. I 0:14:47.000 --> 0:14:49.480 deferred to him, you know, like a big homie, like 0:14:49.520 --> 0:14:51.760 o G like a mogul. But I always had my 0:14:51.800 --> 0:14:53.640 own ship, you know what I mean? And I think 0:14:53.680 --> 0:14:56.360 that's why our relationship was always what it what it's been. 0:14:57.440 --> 0:15:00.720 So he didn't know bad dude, who p not at all? 0:15:01.320 --> 0:15:03.240 You heard something different. But what a lot of people 0:15:03.280 --> 0:15:06.480 say he did, He didn't did she did? He didn't 0:15:06.520 --> 0:15:09.320 give me what he without deserved like that. But you 0:15:09.400 --> 0:15:12.520 hear that with everybody, don't hear that? You know what? 0:15:12.560 --> 0:15:14.480 This is the thing about that bro. I speak on 0:15:14.520 --> 0:15:16.480 that a little bit, and I mean, listen, I can't 0:15:16.480 --> 0:15:19.320 speak for nobody because everybody had their own experience, but 0:15:19.640 --> 0:15:23.119 I kind of know, you know how he got down technically, 0:15:23.280 --> 0:15:26.280 if you think about it, what he would do is man, 0:15:26.320 --> 0:15:29.880 he would he would give you lumps. Okay, say let's 0:15:29.920 --> 0:15:31.880 just be one hunter. A lot of the rappers that 0:15:31.960 --> 0:15:36.240 came on No Limit, the brand No Limit was selling 0:15:36.280 --> 0:15:39.120 that ship. These people didn't have track records. They weren't 0:15:39.120 --> 0:15:42.360 someone wasn't even real artists necessarily, They just nigged in 0:15:42.360 --> 0:15:44.480 the hood to wrap. He's like, okay, I know you're 0:15:44.520 --> 0:15:46.960 nigging want rap. Okay, come on, because no limit. The 0:15:46.960 --> 0:15:49.280 brand is hot right now. We put that tank on anything, 0:15:49.280 --> 0:15:51.920 it's gonna sell, you know what I mean. So you 0:15:51.960 --> 0:15:54.360 would nigga. You ain't never put a demo together. You're 0:15:54.360 --> 0:15:56.800 just wrapping in the hood. So he takes you and say, 0:15:57.120 --> 0:16:00.440 all right here, i'mna give you five hundred thousand, buy 0:16:00.520 --> 0:16:02.840 you a half million dollar house. You know I'm saying, 0:16:02.880 --> 0:16:05.800 set you up with a few cars. You okay, you're good. 0:16:06.040 --> 0:16:07.320 You know what I'm saying. You can get out there 0:16:07.320 --> 0:16:09.160 and get your show money. Go to charge niggas for 0:16:09.240 --> 0:16:13.120 versus all that ship. Right, So he may be spent, 0:16:13.640 --> 0:16:15.640 say a meal meal five on you. You know what 0:16:15.640 --> 0:16:18.240 I'm saying. Say your album go gold. You do the numbers, 0:16:18.360 --> 0:16:20.880 you know what I'm saying. So your album go gold? 0:16:21.040 --> 0:16:23.800 What's that? Maybe three point five million or so? It 0:16:23.880 --> 0:16:26.520 was generated, But you know how to recoup. You talk 0:16:26.560 --> 0:16:29.560 about the recoup ship. So he was nothing. That's what 0:16:29.600 --> 0:16:33.000 I'm saying. You have to be you have to know 0:16:33.040 --> 0:16:37.200 how to First of all, you're dumb as fuck. If 0:16:37.200 --> 0:16:39.000 you get a half a million dollars and go by 0:16:39.080 --> 0:16:42.040 half a million dollar house, don't go do that ship 0:16:42.360 --> 0:16:45.200 because you're not going to recoup anything. But eight, but 0:16:45.280 --> 0:16:48.800 think about no, he gave that to them, Okay, and 0:16:48.840 --> 0:16:53.040 they should know. I don't want that ship because you 0:16:53.120 --> 0:16:55.560 give me a half a million dollar house. I gotta 0:16:55.600 --> 0:16:58.160 pay the mortgage on this motherfucker. I gotta pay the 0:16:58.240 --> 0:17:00.600 taxes on the property. Okay to do it, So you 0:17:00.600 --> 0:17:06.639 ain't never getting no rule to yet. Yeah, right, it 0:17:06.680 --> 0:17:09.040 could go like that, But then but then think about it. 0:17:09.080 --> 0:17:13.439 Eight opposed to him giving you know what I'm saying seven, 0:17:13.680 --> 0:17:16.879 you know, say one cent, you know, fifty cents? You 0:17:16.960 --> 0:17:19.000 see what I'm saying, Because if he paid your your 0:17:19.040 --> 0:17:21.960 album do five hundred thousand and he giving you fifty cents, 0:17:22.080 --> 0:17:24.840 he was pretty much doing non traditional deals. But but 0:17:24.840 --> 0:17:26.520 but no, let's do that. Let's do that. Let's do 0:17:26.520 --> 0:17:28.919 the numbers. Though. If he give you fifty cent a record, 0:17:28.960 --> 0:17:31.159 and you go go, what is what is what is 0:17:31.200 --> 0:17:32.679 he supposed to get you? What is the math on that? 0:17:32.680 --> 0:17:36.679 What's at two hundred fifty thousand? That's two hundred fifty thousand. 0:17:36.760 --> 0:17:39.320 So if he didn't basically invested a million dollars in you, 0:17:39.600 --> 0:17:43.640 he paid you, you see what I'm saying, more than 0:17:43.720 --> 0:17:45.159 what you would have got if he said, you know 0:17:45.200 --> 0:17:47.040 what I'm gonna do? You like the white Man, do you? 0:17:47.040 --> 0:17:48.480 You know what I'm saying, Here you go. You're gonna 0:17:48.520 --> 0:17:51.359 get your your YOURR seven points. You know what I'm saying. 0:17:51.600 --> 0:17:53.280 And here you go. And then you wait for this 0:17:53.320 --> 0:17:55.280 money to come in and wait for us to recouping 0:17:55.320 --> 0:18:00.919 all that ship. So you see it, it's still not 0:18:01.080 --> 0:18:04.440 a good deal man, because at the end of the day, Yeah, 0:18:04.440 --> 0:18:06.280 you gotta how are you gonna pay for that ship? 0:18:06.760 --> 0:18:09.439 You're not gonna be that rapid nigga forever? You're not 0:18:09.560 --> 0:18:13.959 getting them shows. You're not. You already seeing you're not talented. 0:18:15.119 --> 0:18:19.439 You're not talented. So okay, you take the house. You 0:18:19.560 --> 0:18:22.960 take that. So you're going so you gotta remain the hustler, 0:18:23.359 --> 0:18:26.439 right because you got a million dollar you got a 0:18:26.440 --> 0:18:29.399 half a million dollar house. You got two cards in 0:18:29.440 --> 0:18:32.240 your driveway total than a half a million. Now you 0:18:32.320 --> 0:18:34.800 got a million dollar tack. Now you're gonna how am 0:18:34.800 --> 0:18:37.560 I supposed to maintain this ship? When I can't get 0:18:37.560 --> 0:18:40.280 a fucking show. No, that's what you do. Well, you 0:18:40.359 --> 0:18:42.640 hot to get your ass out on tour. You most 0:18:42.640 --> 0:18:45.600 of them niggas was not hot, and you know, but 0:18:45.640 --> 0:18:47.879 this is no they hot if they got a gold record. 0:18:48.000 --> 0:18:49.800 You know what I'm saying. If you got a gold record, 0:18:49.800 --> 0:18:52.320 there's somebody somewhere buying your ship, and it's niggas. It 0:18:52.320 --> 0:18:55.520 will give you when we know, we know the game. 0:18:56.000 --> 0:18:58.600 A lot of that ship is not selling. A lot 0:18:58.640 --> 0:19:01.200 of that ship was being bought by their own companies. 0:19:01.520 --> 0:19:03.680 You said, a lot of that ship, like you said, 0:19:03.800 --> 0:19:07.880 the name was selling that ship. A lot of those artists, 0:19:07.920 --> 0:19:10.639 like I said, I was gonna sign a no limit okay, 0:19:11.119 --> 0:19:14.600 l A lot of those artists, like you said, the 0:19:14.760 --> 0:19:17.600 name was selling them. And at a time when the 0:19:17.720 --> 0:19:20.639 name was done, what had happened to a lot of 0:19:20.800 --> 0:19:23.600 artists on the limit for sure? Okay, So now I'm 0:19:23.640 --> 0:19:27.800 stuck with a million dollar fucking house paid for it. 0:19:27.920 --> 0:19:31.240 You can, but ain't it different? If if it would 0:19:31.280 --> 0:19:33.600 be different if m c A signed with no limit, 0:19:34.280 --> 0:19:36.480 and just think what he would have did up front 0:19:36.520 --> 0:19:39.560 with you because you m c A. But like you said, 0:19:39.600 --> 0:19:41.880 in the long run, that house is gonna be sold, 0:19:41.920 --> 0:19:44.760 the cars is gonna be sold. But then eight but 0:19:44.800 --> 0:19:48.040 though playing Devil's advocate, though bro, if he had did 0:19:48.080 --> 0:19:53.400 a traditional deal, left because if you were smart enough, 0:19:53.480 --> 0:19:56.520 we wouldn't take a traditional deal. But some artists as 0:19:56.520 --> 0:19:59.200 but some artists as the beginning artists. You gotta take 0:20:00.000 --> 0:20:01.840 about it. Like I said, you gotta nigga right off 0:20:01.840 --> 0:20:04.720 the street. What kind of leverage do we have? Really? 0:20:04.840 --> 0:20:09.040 Nothing exactly, sound like he was unfair. No, it was 0:20:09.359 --> 0:20:12.199 ultimately what I'm saying. Ultimately, what I'm saying is no, 0:20:12.480 --> 0:20:14.800 I mean, listen, I can't speak for everybody, but pe 0:20:15.160 --> 0:20:17.879 is a given dude, like he gave freely, you know 0:20:17.880 --> 0:20:21.440 what I'm saying. And actually it's a lot of times 0:20:21.480 --> 0:20:23.760 where I would tell him, nigga, I wouldn't do that. 0:20:23.800 --> 0:20:25.560 You know what I'm saying. I think you're being too nice, 0:20:25.600 --> 0:20:28.119 you know what I mean. But you know, but you 0:20:28.160 --> 0:20:31.399 can't please everybody in this business. And the thing he 0:20:31.520 --> 0:20:33.480 was like, he said that when you gotta do that, 0:20:33.520 --> 0:20:36.119 ain't really talented that don't know the business? Oh he 0:20:36.240 --> 0:20:38.359 know is he got this house and these two cars. 0:20:38.359 --> 0:20:40.320 In his mind he thinks he really don't did some 0:20:40.359 --> 0:20:43.639 ship but but that it could have been at the 0:20:43.640 --> 0:20:48.200 beginning responsibility people going the hood. Oh you wrapped? Come 0:20:48.200 --> 0:20:53.359 on now, somebody in the hood. So dog, you gotta 0:20:53.400 --> 0:20:56.160 think just like like with with Puffy, right, just like 0:20:56.200 --> 0:20:58.679 with Diddy and I think rest in Peace to was 0:20:58.720 --> 0:21:01.480 a black ribe that just passed away. You know, people 0:21:01.600 --> 0:21:05.639 was like, he's I mean, no disrespect, but dude is grown. 0:21:05.800 --> 0:21:08.040 So just because he worked for Puffy and was signed 0:21:08.040 --> 0:21:10.480 a Puffy twenty five years ago, he's still supposed to 0:21:10.480 --> 0:21:12.760 be responsible for him. You know what I'm saying, Like, 0:21:12.800 --> 0:21:14.760 this is a grown ass man. You know what I'm saying. 0:21:14.760 --> 0:21:16.280 So at some point where it's a kind of building 0:21:16.880 --> 0:21:19.080 the internet. Man, don't nothing make sense on the internet. 0:21:19.160 --> 0:21:22.640 But that's what I'm saying. But I'm kind of saying 0:21:22.680 --> 0:21:24.600 even to eight point though, you know what I'm saying, 0:21:24.680 --> 0:21:27.200 Like if a nigga you you know what I'm saying. 0:21:27.960 --> 0:21:29.639 You know, it's like in the hood, if a nigga 0:21:29.760 --> 0:21:31.840 throw you a couple, you know what I'm saying, Whatever 0:21:31.920 --> 0:21:34.359 whatever and tell you okay, wrong with the ball. You 0:21:34.400 --> 0:21:36.480 ain't even gotta pay me nothing back, Like you know 0:21:36.520 --> 0:21:39.760 what I'm saying. So now you fumble the rock. You know, 0:21:39.760 --> 0:21:42.399 when you fall on your ass. Oh so it's his fault, 0:21:42.640 --> 0:21:47.399 you know what I'm saying that, But that's how like 0:21:47.520 --> 0:21:50.080 you said, we're talking about people, man, that don't have 0:21:51.320 --> 0:21:54.000 no place in the music business. Sometimes they just don't 0:21:54.040 --> 0:21:56.240 got no places. That's what you're talking about. Them people 0:21:56.240 --> 0:21:58.760 will always be even though they got more than what 0:21:58.800 --> 0:22:01.440 they were supposed to get tech they got a shot, 0:22:01.600 --> 0:22:03.760 you know what I'm saying. Because it was some people 0:22:03.760 --> 0:22:07.359 that came off with no limits, that had pretty cool careers. 0:22:07.600 --> 0:22:09.560 You know a lot of vival artists that came from 0:22:11.080 --> 0:22:15.000 John to say that's death from some There was a 0:22:15.000 --> 0:22:17.160 lot of them. And I don't say people. I'm gonna 0:22:17.160 --> 0:22:19.000 say us on that bro that shouldn't have been in 0:22:19.000 --> 0:22:21.800 the music business. But we wentn't on the music part 0:22:21.840 --> 0:22:23.720 of it. We was on the other end of it. 0:22:23.840 --> 0:22:26.960 Oh No, I wasn't talking about that. Um, I wasn't 0:22:27.000 --> 0:22:28.879 talking about I'm talking about the person that's a rapper. 0:22:29.480 --> 0:22:31.520 It wasn't shouldn't have you over there trying to make 0:22:31.600 --> 0:22:33.320 rap records, you know what I'm saying. That's the whole 0:22:33.359 --> 0:22:37.040 different thing. You know, when you get put somebody in 0:22:37.040 --> 0:22:39.439 the rama being an artist that's different executive. You can 0:22:39.480 --> 0:22:41.320 show somebody how to be executive. You can get a 0:22:41.400 --> 0:22:43.520 homie and tell him how to do this. But when 0:22:43.560 --> 0:22:46.600 you take that same homie can turn them into artists. Now, 0:22:46.720 --> 0:22:49.240 man your wraps and he messed around to get off 0:22:49.280 --> 0:22:52.359 with it. That's a whole different list scenario right there. 0:22:52.400 --> 0:22:53.960 They can kind of get, you know what I'm saying 0:22:54.000 --> 0:22:56.639 concluded a little bit because they don't understand it. But 0:22:56.720 --> 0:22:59.600 you can't take I wouldn't talking about that things too. 0:22:59.680 --> 0:23:03.080 See the thing about me, Bro is like I don't know, Bro, 0:23:03.200 --> 0:23:05.720 the way I was raised like accountability. You know what 0:23:05.720 --> 0:23:07.800 I'm saying. I don't never make excuses for ship that 0:23:08.040 --> 0:23:10.280 that happened good, you know what I'm saying, Like I 0:23:10.600 --> 0:23:12.760 if somebody give me an opportunity, you know what I mean, 0:23:12.840 --> 0:23:15.800 it's up to me to educate myself and to fill 0:23:15.960 --> 0:23:18.600 that opportunity. And if we can talk about opportunities, let's 0:23:18.640 --> 0:23:21.600 go into that. So you meet Pete Man. Y'all got 0:23:21.720 --> 0:23:25.440 this um chemistreet shown built up man, and I assumed 0:23:25.480 --> 0:23:27.680 through your relationship with him, you start making the gang 0:23:27.720 --> 0:23:30.600 in connections. What was the first thing that when when 0:23:30.680 --> 0:23:32.560 the real estate thing was the first thing you went into. 0:23:33.600 --> 0:23:37.840 M M. Yeah, real estate again, going back to that. 0:23:38.040 --> 0:23:40.520 You know what I'm saying, uh man, still having a 0:23:40.920 --> 0:23:42.440 you know what I'm saying, A footing the street, you 0:23:42.480 --> 0:23:44.920 know what I mean. I started buying real estate just 0:23:45.280 --> 0:23:48.200 because I started seeing a lot of the old heads 0:23:48.240 --> 0:23:50.400 in my that was getting money in my city. They 0:23:50.520 --> 0:23:52.800 was doing that. They was buying houses and fixing them up. 0:23:53.119 --> 0:23:55.080 So I thought in my mind, like, Okay, if I 0:23:55.200 --> 0:23:57.520 buy a house and I fixed it up, you know 0:23:57.560 --> 0:23:59.200 what I'm saying, if I go to jail, then it 0:23:59.280 --> 0:24:01.560 could be something, you know, I could leverage to get 0:24:01.600 --> 0:24:03.600 out of something, you know what I mean. So that's 0:24:03.640 --> 0:24:05.720 why that's I bought my first house when I was nineteen, 0:24:06.040 --> 0:24:09.560 you know what I mean? And uh yeah, you know 0:24:09.640 --> 0:24:13.440 what I noticed back in the Midwest, it's easier to 0:24:13.480 --> 0:24:20.160 get a house dollars. That's what I did my first house. 0:24:20.200 --> 0:24:23.000 I paid one thousand for it. I put like another 0:24:23.080 --> 0:24:25.720 fifteen into it. This is what I thought, right because 0:24:25.720 --> 0:24:27.920 I mean, you know, I'm past that point in my life, 0:24:28.000 --> 0:24:30.239 but I was weed. I was moving big weed back 0:24:30.280 --> 0:24:32.720 down going to pass so but that's a whole another story. 0:24:33.080 --> 0:24:36.320 But so I bought a house I paid twenty one 0:24:36.400 --> 0:24:39.000 thou for put another fifteen into it, you know what 0:24:39.040 --> 0:24:42.160 I mean. And I was standing outside the house thinking 0:24:42.200 --> 0:24:44.480 to myself, like, damn, I'm gonna get my money back, 0:24:44.960 --> 0:24:47.240 you know what I mean. Like, and I'm like, ship, 0:24:47.480 --> 0:24:49.440 if I if I because I'm renting it for like 0:24:49.520 --> 0:24:51.720 six hundred a month because that's the cost of living there, 0:24:51.800 --> 0:24:53.480 you know what I mean. And I'm like, damn, I'm 0:24:53.520 --> 0:24:56.280 gonna be all fucking year, you know, years get my money. 0:24:56.520 --> 0:24:58.320 And then it dinned on me like, oh, this ship 0:24:58.400 --> 0:25:00.240 like weed. You don't make a lot of money, y'all 0:25:00.280 --> 0:25:02.359 of it, but its volume, you know, because that's what 0:25:02.480 --> 0:25:05.000 I understood at the time. So I was like, shoot, 0:25:05.000 --> 0:25:06.959 I need to get tentities, you know. So they end 0:25:06.960 --> 0:25:09.320 of like get tentities. Now I got by six seven 0:25:09.359 --> 0:25:11.040 thousand coming in a month, you know what I mean. 0:25:11.520 --> 0:25:14.440 I knew nothing about equity. I didn't know no type 0:25:14.480 --> 0:25:16.560 of language of real estate and no ship. I just 0:25:16.680 --> 0:25:19.639 knew by this cost. I didn't know none of that, 0:25:19.920 --> 0:25:21.920 right appraisal, what the fund is that, you know what 0:25:21.960 --> 0:25:25.560 I mean. So, um, by the time I hit twenty one, 0:25:26.160 --> 0:25:28.600 I had like twelve properties, you know what I mean. 0:25:29.000 --> 0:25:31.240 And I was just chasing that monthly ring, you know, 0:25:31.520 --> 0:25:33.200 he trying to get that ship and trying to hurry 0:25:33.240 --> 0:25:35.760 up before this looming jail thing I thought was coming, 0:25:35.880 --> 0:25:39.520 you know. And uh I remember my uh my brother 0:25:39.640 --> 0:25:43.040 had introduced me to this lady at a UM at 0:25:43.080 --> 0:25:46.120 a credit union down there, and she was just impressed 0:25:46.160 --> 0:25:48.320 by me. I didn't understand why. You know. She was like, 0:25:48.440 --> 0:25:50.800 so you got that many properties freeing clear. I'm like, yeah, 0:25:51.119 --> 0:25:52.960 you know what I mean. But when you get money 0:25:53.040 --> 0:25:54.680 like that, it's like, I ain't mean. And she was like, 0:25:54.760 --> 0:25:56.359 you know how much equity you got? I was like, 0:25:56.800 --> 0:25:58.200 I don't even know what that is, you know what 0:25:58.240 --> 0:26:01.399 I'm saying. And so anyway, she showed me how to 0:26:01.560 --> 0:26:05.159 basically leverage, you know what, I had my portfolio, and 0:26:05.280 --> 0:26:07.560 probably in about a couple of months she had got 0:26:07.640 --> 0:26:09.480 me like a seven hundred thousand not a line of 0:26:09.560 --> 0:26:12.760 credit over that ship, which means I had access to 0:26:12.840 --> 0:26:14.680 seven hundred thousand or do whatever I wanted to do. 0:26:14.960 --> 0:26:18.240 I'm like, you know what I'm saying. And then I'm 0:26:18.280 --> 0:26:20.680 getting money from the records. I'm getting money, you know 0:26:20.720 --> 0:26:22.800 what I'm saying. So I was I was moving back then, 0:26:23.000 --> 0:26:25.600 you know what I mean. And and that's what opened 0:26:25.680 --> 0:26:28.960 my my mind to start thinking outside the box on 0:26:29.040 --> 0:26:30.840 a lot of ship, you know what I'm saying. And 0:26:30.920 --> 0:26:32.760 then I started doing it in Atlanta. I had a 0:26:32.800 --> 0:26:36.080 business in Atlanta too, So yeah, I started really um 0:26:37.160 --> 0:26:40.520 spread my wings, you know what I'm saying. Entrepreneurial, you know. Wise, 0:26:41.520 --> 0:26:44.159 So you kind of started gravitating more towards that in 0:26:44.200 --> 0:26:47.360 the music as when I was started doing the music. Yeah, 0:26:47.400 --> 0:26:49.240 I was still doing the music that I was doing 0:26:49.320 --> 0:26:51.680 everything because you gotta think, that's what Pe model for me, 0:26:52.080 --> 0:26:55.000 you know, to have these multiple revenue streams. You know, 0:26:55.520 --> 0:26:57.560 That's the thing I learned from Pete was work ethic, 0:26:57.760 --> 0:26:59.520 you know what I'm saying. Like he never just had 0:26:59.600 --> 0:27:01.679 one thing. Think about it. When no limit was at 0:27:01.720 --> 0:27:05.639 his peak, he had toys, he had choose, he had speakers, 0:27:06.000 --> 0:27:08.480 he had all kinds of ship, you know what I'm saying. 0:27:09.840 --> 0:27:12.680 So that's that's what was modeled for me. So that's 0:27:12.760 --> 0:27:15.280 what I you know, that's what I emulated in my 0:27:15.440 --> 0:27:18.360 own way. You know. So I had the records, I had, uh, 0:27:18.760 --> 0:27:21.960 I had a business in Atlanta, had real estate in Atlanta. 0:27:22.160 --> 0:27:24.920 I had the properties and again I'm like one, you 0:27:24.960 --> 0:27:27.800 know what I'm saying. Yeah, so you just kept the party. 0:27:27.840 --> 0:27:29.720 You just kept the party going with the real estate 0:27:29.800 --> 0:27:33.680 then and then eventually started getting to succeed. This is 0:27:33.800 --> 0:27:39.720 my whole thing with real estate, right, it's a slow ground. 0:27:39.800 --> 0:27:42.159 Like you said, at first, you get a house, you 0:27:42.200 --> 0:27:46.200 know what I'm saying, charging um thousand dollars rent, your 0:27:46.520 --> 0:27:48.720 mortgage might be nine fifty a month or whatever like 0:27:48.840 --> 0:27:53.520 that here. Yeah, but no not you can't get no 0:27:53.600 --> 0:27:56.840 show like like like this is not a cash flow 0:27:56.960 --> 0:27:59.000 type state because it's so expensive. So that's what I 0:27:59.119 --> 0:28:00.720 was saying. In California, it is hard. So I'm just 0:28:00.800 --> 0:28:03.359 telling the listeners out there, everybody and not gonna have 0:28:03.480 --> 0:28:07.000 the same success the Midwest. Different ship. Yeah, yeah, you 0:28:07.040 --> 0:28:09.840 gotta do it in the South and Middlewest because you 0:28:09.920 --> 0:28:11.440 can go you can go to like I'll take you 0:28:11.560 --> 0:28:13.680 some ship. Now. You can get a house for five 0:28:13.720 --> 0:28:15.680 thousand dollars. Yeah, you had to put a lot of 0:28:15.720 --> 0:28:17.320 ship into it. It makes it be a land with 0:28:17.400 --> 0:28:20.480 a foundation on it. Because just the thing still when 0:28:20.560 --> 0:28:22.760 I so when I did that, I moved out here 0:28:22.840 --> 0:28:24.680 when I was twenty three, you know what I'm saying, 0:28:24.760 --> 0:28:27.159 And I moved to Brentwood, you know what I mean, 0:28:27.320 --> 0:28:30.000 right down Barrington and Sunset, and it was a culture 0:28:30.040 --> 0:28:31.960 shock for me, you know what I mean, because I'm 0:28:32.000 --> 0:28:34.480 like the rent over there. I was paying like four 0:28:34.560 --> 0:28:37.080 grand a month for a two bed room, you know 0:28:37.119 --> 0:28:39.400 what i mean. I'm like the fun Like I just 0:28:39.560 --> 0:28:42.080 came from a townhouse, you know what I'm saying, with 0:28:42.560 --> 0:28:45.040 three floors and six bedrooms and ship and I was 0:28:45.120 --> 0:28:49.680 paying fifteen hundred dollars in Kansas Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know. 0:28:50.120 --> 0:28:51.800 But it was a trip because when I went to 0:28:51.920 --> 0:28:54.880 go buy my first house, I was looking at Brentwood 0:28:55.440 --> 0:28:57.120 and I ain't gonna lie. I couldn't afford it, you 0:28:57.160 --> 0:28:58.680 know what I'm saying. That ship in Brentwood was like 0:28:58.840 --> 0:29:01.280 Fox five million for hair down. So I end up 0:29:01.320 --> 0:29:03.760 moving to a Sino and I tripped on that because 0:29:03.800 --> 0:29:05.560 the first house I bought in a SnO was like 0:29:05.680 --> 0:29:08.760 a million, you know what I mean. And I was like, fuck, 0:29:09.400 --> 0:29:12.920 like ship, twenty of my properties in Kansas City is 0:29:13.000 --> 0:29:16.080 this one house, you know what I mean. So it's 0:29:16.120 --> 0:29:18.920 like the cost of living I had to adjust to, 0:29:19.240 --> 0:29:21.200 you know what I'm saying coming out here. And then 0:29:21.280 --> 0:29:22.920 that's when I've seen it. I can't do that real 0:29:23.040 --> 0:29:25.360 estate ship out here. Out here, this is a flipping city, 0:29:25.680 --> 0:29:27.720 you know what I mean. You just by low, get 0:29:27.760 --> 0:29:30.280 a good deal and then flip that ship. Yeah, that's 0:29:30.280 --> 0:29:32.160 what I was going back to. I said, Man, it's 0:29:32.200 --> 0:29:33.960 a little bit easier, you know what I'm saying. The 0:29:34.040 --> 0:29:38.280 Mother's states. This ship is so expensive, super expensive out here, bro, 0:29:38.520 --> 0:29:40.320 you know. And then that's when I started getting into 0:29:40.360 --> 0:29:42.880 producing movies and ship like that. Then I started, you 0:29:42.920 --> 0:29:44.720 know what I mean, using my money to do that 0:29:45.600 --> 0:29:47.560 over show. So you were so you jumped allay in 0:29:47.600 --> 0:29:50.200 the movie game with some of the d s. The 0:29:50.240 --> 0:29:52.800 first movie I did, I spent like three hundred thousand 0:29:52.840 --> 0:29:54.760 on my own money. It was a movie I did 0:29:54.800 --> 0:29:57.440 with me and Cat Williams and Lawrence Hill and Jacobs 0:29:57.600 --> 0:30:00.960 called Young American Gangsters, and I, uh, that was just 0:30:01.080 --> 0:30:03.200 some ship I just tried. I moved out here and 0:30:03.240 --> 0:30:05.440 I started like auditioning for ship, you know what I mean. 0:30:05.520 --> 0:30:08.200 I started doing a bunch of independent movies and just 0:30:08.360 --> 0:30:10.120 kind of learning what they do and how they do 0:30:10.240 --> 0:30:12.840 what they do and asking questions and ship. And then 0:30:12.920 --> 0:30:15.080 once I started learning more, I was like, Ship, I 0:30:15.160 --> 0:30:16.720 can do this ship I got the money to do 0:30:16.840 --> 0:30:21.280 this ship, you just put up your own three stacks. Man. Listen, dog, 0:30:21.320 --> 0:30:23.720 I'm young, you know what I'm saying. Dumb. I didn't 0:30:23.720 --> 0:30:25.800 even have an exit strategy, you know what I'm saying. 0:30:25.880 --> 0:30:27.840 I just was like, funking, I'm gonna do it. How 0:30:27.880 --> 0:30:32.320 did that work out? It worked out barely. So I 0:30:32.560 --> 0:30:34.880 end up my co producer Ken that came with me. 0:30:35.520 --> 0:30:38.720 He took me to Cans to France, to the peace 0:30:38.840 --> 0:30:41.840 to the Cans Film Festival. So I flew over there 0:30:42.280 --> 0:30:45.760 to get distribution for my movie. And I got distribution 0:30:45.880 --> 0:30:48.520 with a company literally around the corner from my house. 0:30:49.120 --> 0:30:54.760 And that's crazy, some niggers, it's around the corner from you. Yeah. 0:30:54.840 --> 0:30:57.400 I got sucked on that movie too, because you know, 0:30:57.720 --> 0:30:59.680 I was you know, I thought like a drug dealer, 0:30:59.800 --> 0:31:01.360 you know what I'm saying. So they gave me a 0:31:01.440 --> 0:31:04.040 little bit over what I spent on it, and I'm thinking, Okay, 0:31:04.080 --> 0:31:05.800 I'm gonna go do another one. You know what I'm saying. 0:31:05.840 --> 0:31:08.840 Many people made three five me not about that movie, 0:31:09.280 --> 0:31:11.280 you know what I'm saying. But that's the thing, man, 0:31:11.400 --> 0:31:13.920 I learned. That's why you got to educate yourself to 0:31:14.040 --> 0:31:16.480 what you're doing. And I was chasing money because I 0:31:16.560 --> 0:31:19.000 had a you know, drug dealer mentality. But that's what 0:31:19.120 --> 0:31:21.600 I learned, like, you gotta do ship that you love 0:31:21.720 --> 0:31:24.320 and ship that you that you you know, move with purpose, 0:31:24.600 --> 0:31:27.080 you know what I'm saying, because anytime you chase some money, 0:31:27.080 --> 0:31:29.400 you're gonna fail at the ship. You know, chasing money 0:31:29.480 --> 0:31:31.520 only applies in the street because that's all it is. 0:31:31.680 --> 0:31:34.520 But when you start wanting to build things and get 0:31:34.600 --> 0:31:36.800 into things, you gotta really love what you're doing because 0:31:36.800 --> 0:31:39.120 you're gonna put in the time to master it and 0:31:39.200 --> 0:31:41.920 it'll be successful. So it was kind of a failure, 0:31:42.000 --> 0:31:43.480 but it was but at the same time, it was 0:31:43.520 --> 0:31:46.200 a lesson, you know. So you got your money, you 0:31:46.240 --> 0:31:47.840 got your money back. They could have been been a 0:31:47.920 --> 0:31:49.840 lot of worse. You could have not got your breath back. 0:31:49.920 --> 0:31:52.160 I wouldn't have been tripping. That's that's that. But that's 0:31:52.240 --> 0:31:54.040 that admitting I was getting it like that. I wasn't 0:31:54.040 --> 0:31:56.800 even tripping. That three hundred wasn't nothing at the time, 0:31:56.920 --> 0:31:58.840 you know what I'm saying. So I was just like 0:31:59.120 --> 0:32:03.040 because I was literally in my living room watching myself, like, 0:32:03.240 --> 0:32:05.240 you know, I'm feeling myself like, get me a cat 0:32:05.360 --> 0:32:07.280 on it. Then it donned on me, like, boy, how 0:32:07.280 --> 0:32:08.680 are you gonna get your money out of this? I 0:32:08.760 --> 0:32:11.600 had no idea, you know what I'm saying. None. And 0:32:11.920 --> 0:32:14.000 you know that's why you gotta study what it is 0:32:14.040 --> 0:32:17.080 you're trying to do yourself, so you know you made 0:32:17.160 --> 0:32:21.440 the mistakes that you know, what was the first move 0:32:21.560 --> 0:32:23.560 you make out made outside of the real estate that 0:32:23.760 --> 0:32:26.680 was like pretty much that that home run. He was like, Okay, 0:32:26.720 --> 0:32:30.720 I get it. Now this is with cragging. Man, that's 0:32:30.720 --> 0:32:33.880 a good question. Still, Um, I don't know that I 0:32:34.000 --> 0:32:37.320 necessarily had one. To be very honest, I think I 0:32:37.480 --> 0:32:40.560 just start knowing how to move different and more efficient 0:32:40.640 --> 0:32:43.520 with what I was doing, you know what I'm saying, Like, um, 0:32:44.360 --> 0:32:46.760 I mean, I made money, money come and go. But 0:32:47.440 --> 0:32:50.120 I think, yeah, it's just learning how to I always say, 0:32:50.120 --> 0:32:51.800 you live life long enough here to teach you how 0:32:51.840 --> 0:32:53.440 to live, you know what I'm saying. So I think 0:32:53.480 --> 0:32:56.240 it's just learning and paying attention to the lessons and 0:32:56.280 --> 0:32:58.080 the failures that I had, you know what I'm saying, 0:32:58.080 --> 0:32:59.920 and doing better, just doing you know what I mean. 0:33:00.440 --> 0:33:02.800 You know, me and James were talking about that earlier, 0:33:03.320 --> 0:33:06.880 and I was telling him. I said, man, um, whenever 0:33:07.000 --> 0:33:08.720 I don't hear the I would hear the lick on 0:33:08.880 --> 0:33:11.240 somebody and get that money. It seemed like that money 0:33:11.280 --> 0:33:13.800 would just go like fast, like it was almost like 0:33:14.120 --> 0:33:16.880 like disappear in your pockets. Kind yeah, for sure, because 0:33:16.920 --> 0:33:18.680 it don't have no value. But if I went to 0:33:18.760 --> 0:33:21.000 work for my uncle or something that he built, I 0:33:21.240 --> 0:33:23.120 was back then if I want to work for him 0:33:23.160 --> 0:33:24.800 in the summer for a week to get them hundred 0:33:24.800 --> 0:33:27.800 dollars for them school clothes or whatever, it seemed like 0:33:27.920 --> 0:33:29.960 I held only that money, I wouldn't. I might not 0:33:30.120 --> 0:33:32.200 buy them Leavis. I man, I can't get in a 0:33:32.320 --> 0:33:33.800 T shirt. I gotta you know, we gotta go to 0:33:33.920 --> 0:33:35.840 k Mark. Yeah, you appreciate you know what I'm saying. 0:33:35.840 --> 0:33:38.080 You appreciate it a little bit more. And I think 0:33:38.120 --> 0:33:39.680 it's the same thing like you said you had the 0:33:39.760 --> 0:33:42.960 drug deal mentality. You just you suggest hitting them. But 0:33:43.080 --> 0:33:44.960 you know what, I worked hard for that ship. I 0:33:45.040 --> 0:33:47.320 don't know who said that the hustling was easy, because 0:33:47.320 --> 0:33:49.960 it wasn't, and not to not how I was doing it. 0:33:50.080 --> 0:33:53.000 You know, it was a lot of logistics that ship, 0:33:53.120 --> 0:33:54.960 and headache and stress that went with it, you know 0:33:55.000 --> 0:33:58.160 what I mean. So it wasn't easy by any you know. 0:33:58.360 --> 0:34:01.360 And then again I had other businesses that I was running, 0:34:01.400 --> 0:34:04.800 even with the real estates I created, um just about default. 0:34:04.880 --> 0:34:08.399 I had created a property management company because I had 0:34:08.440 --> 0:34:11.040 all those properties, and because I had moved to l 0:34:11.120 --> 0:34:14.239 A and you know, I would meet different investors that 0:34:14.440 --> 0:34:16.839 also had properties in my city and they would ask 0:34:16.920 --> 0:34:19.120 me like, man, you gotta air condition? Due, Man, you 0:34:19.200 --> 0:34:22.439 got a plumber, you know. So it dawned on me like, oh, Ship, 0:34:22.600 --> 0:34:25.040 I'm from there, so I have a network there. So 0:34:25.840 --> 0:34:27.480 you know, I got a couple of chicks, and I 0:34:27.600 --> 0:34:31.280 created a property management company, which you know, that company 0:34:31.360 --> 0:34:33.560 even now to this day, you know, we managed like 0:34:33.680 --> 0:34:36.480 fifteen million dollars worth the assets. And that was just 0:34:36.680 --> 0:34:39.680 me on some hustle. Ship. I just seen an opportunity like, oh, Ship, 0:34:39.719 --> 0:34:41.960 you ain't got air condition, dude, Oh you don't either. 0:34:42.160 --> 0:34:45.120 How many properties you got? You got forty? You don't 0:34:45.120 --> 0:34:46.960 worry about it. I got air condition, do Yeah. We're 0:34:46.960 --> 0:34:49.120 gonna outlined it first, like yeah, man, I got a 0:34:49.160 --> 0:34:51.400 whole company. We got people that have handled that for you. 0:34:51.800 --> 0:34:54.160 So at some point I had to structure correctly but 0:34:54.640 --> 0:34:57.080 you know it's just you know, like Pepe would always say, Man, 0:34:57.160 --> 0:34:59.880 to start a good business, you know, you find a problem, 0:35:00.120 --> 0:35:02.360 you know what I'm saying, and then you present the solution. 0:35:02.760 --> 0:35:05.279 So you know that was just by chance, you know. 0:35:05.960 --> 0:35:08.759 So that's another thing that I had got into. But 0:35:09.000 --> 0:35:11.879 man is just paying attention to to the to the opportunity, 0:35:11.960 --> 0:35:14.320 man and not being scared to try some ship, you 0:35:14.360 --> 0:35:16.480 know what I mean, Like I tried. I ain't never 0:35:16.600 --> 0:35:18.279 been scared to put up my own money or try 0:35:18.360 --> 0:35:20.320 something or fail, you know what I mean. That's just 0:35:20.440 --> 0:35:23.680 part of the process. You gotta be willing to take 0:35:24.200 --> 0:35:26.000 You gotta be willing to take risk, and you would 0:35:26.040 --> 0:35:28.800 do man pretty much. They come from the same environment. 0:35:29.360 --> 0:35:30.960 There's a lot of us, you know. So it could 0:35:31.000 --> 0:35:32.960 have went either way. Yeah for sure. You know it 0:35:33.200 --> 0:35:35.040 could have went either way because Kansas City is a 0:35:35.160 --> 0:35:38.400 mother do the city got some going on out there? Yeah, Bro, 0:35:38.520 --> 0:35:40.800 I wasn't that good. I mean, I don't take the 0:35:40.840 --> 0:35:42.480 credit like that, you know what I'm saying. I had 0:35:42.480 --> 0:35:44.280 a lot of people praying for me to be honest 0:35:44.320 --> 0:35:46.440 with you. You know, I just I wasn't that you 0:35:46.480 --> 0:35:49.040 know what I'm saying, Like just super smart and just 0:35:49.200 --> 0:35:51.120 super you know what I mean. I mean, I did 0:35:51.239 --> 0:35:54.080 everything I could to try to make it. But you know, 0:35:54.239 --> 0:35:55.880 there's a lot of people praying for me, you know 0:35:55.920 --> 0:35:58.520 what I'm saying, honestly. And then too, you know, my 0:35:58.600 --> 0:36:01.200 old lady man, you know that I think having a 0:36:01.280 --> 0:36:03.520 good woman in your in your corner, you know what 0:36:03.600 --> 0:36:06.480 I'm saying, and keeps you grounded and kind of balances 0:36:06.520 --> 0:36:08.400 you off status. That had a lot to do with 0:36:08.520 --> 0:36:10.840 it too, you know what I mean, because she you know, 0:36:11.239 --> 0:36:13.399 you know, I had kids early, you know, like I said, 0:36:13.480 --> 0:36:16.480 my daughter, I had my daughter my six team, you 0:36:16.520 --> 0:36:18.400 know what I mean. So I kind of had to 0:36:18.960 --> 0:36:21.320 step up to the plate early in life. You know. 0:36:21.560 --> 0:36:23.560 I went to jail at fifteen. Then I got a 0:36:23.640 --> 0:36:26.520 child at six team. So while I'm doing all of that, 0:36:26.880 --> 0:36:29.399 even with pe in real estate, I got a whole 0:36:29.440 --> 0:36:32.000 fucking family, you know what I'm saying. So you had 0:36:32.040 --> 0:36:34.719 to make some Yeah, and behind closed doors, I'm working 0:36:34.800 --> 0:36:36.400 on being a man, you know what I'm saying. I 0:36:36.520 --> 0:36:39.239 may have seen poise than all of that ship, but 0:36:39.360 --> 0:36:41.359 behind closed doors, and I'm trying to figure it out 0:36:41.560 --> 0:36:44.080 because I didn't grow up with my father the state 0:36:44.200 --> 0:36:46.560 made me go live with my father. I had had 0:36:46.600 --> 0:36:49.160 a relationship with him really up to that point. So 0:36:49.320 --> 0:36:51.719 we like two niggas just living in the house. You 0:36:51.760 --> 0:36:53.799 know what I'm saying, When when did you figure out 0:36:53.880 --> 0:36:56.080 you was a man? Because I tell everybody I didn't 0:36:56.120 --> 0:36:58.560 figure out I was a man, Jill. I was in 0:36:58.680 --> 0:37:01.719 my fifties. For the chef. I'm gonna tell you, I 0:37:01.760 --> 0:37:03.800 know exactly, James, that's a good question. I tell you 0:37:03.880 --> 0:37:07.040 exactly when I knew I had moved to l A. 0:37:07.880 --> 0:37:10.120 I had went back to Kansas City one time. I 0:37:10.239 --> 0:37:12.320 was with my brother, who does really estate. He the 0:37:12.360 --> 0:37:15.440 one that actually kind of taught me and my job. 0:37:15.520 --> 0:37:17.400 My only child is my half brother. I didn't meet 0:37:17.480 --> 0:37:21.080 him till I was like fifteen sixteen. So now he 0:37:21.160 --> 0:37:23.920 is square dude, you know what I mean. I was 0:37:24.040 --> 0:37:26.680 on his porch and one of his properties and somebody 0:37:26.800 --> 0:37:29.880 broke into it. He was passing his cards out to 0:37:30.000 --> 0:37:33.560 the neighbors, and so, uh, you square dude. He was 0:37:33.640 --> 0:37:35.960 just like, Hey, if y'all see somebody mess with the property, 0:37:36.000 --> 0:37:39.080 called the police and call me the dude. So as 0:37:39.080 --> 0:37:42.560 a dude next door or some young niggas, this nigga. 0:37:42.680 --> 0:37:46.080 I'm on the porch literally like, man, I'm thinking to myself, Man, 0:37:46.160 --> 0:37:49.320 my brother needs to hurry up. I gotta go. Nigga 0:37:49.480 --> 0:37:51.880 next door literally looks at me and says, Nigga, what 0:37:51.960 --> 0:37:56.440 the funk you looking at? I looked over my shoulder, 0:37:56.560 --> 0:37:59.520 like who you're talking to? He was like, Niggy, y'all 0:37:59.560 --> 0:38:01.680 think somebody broken your ship and they ain't nobody. He 0:38:01.800 --> 0:38:06.640 just started tripping, So you know, I got my thing 0:38:06.760 --> 0:38:08.520 on me, you know what I mean. So I hop 0:38:08.560 --> 0:38:10.080 off the porch and I gonna walk up on him. 0:38:10.080 --> 0:38:11.640 I said, little nigga, who the fuck you talking to? 0:38:12.360 --> 0:38:14.439 You know? And he was like, no, I'm just saying 0:38:14.520 --> 0:38:20.319 y'all woo woo woo. So at that moment, I said, listen, bro, 0:38:20.840 --> 0:38:23.680 you know, I said, man, my brother owns a h 0:38:24.120 --> 0:38:27.680 insurance company, like he's not tripping like that. And I said, 0:38:27.719 --> 0:38:30.280 and do you hear your mama right here? Your family 0:38:30.440 --> 0:38:32.560 right here, like you don't know what I'm on. And 0:38:32.680 --> 0:38:36.120 I'm saying that to say I started, I start kind 0:38:36.160 --> 0:38:40.120 of chastising him respectfully, and I didn't respond how I 0:38:40.160 --> 0:38:43.640 would have responded years earlier, because I didn't care that 0:38:43.880 --> 0:38:45.759 if he thought I was a bit ass nigga. Whole 0:38:45.800 --> 0:38:48.480 ass nigga. I didn't even care about that because so 0:38:48.880 --> 0:38:52.000 after I told him, I raised up my shirt and said, Bro, 0:38:52.160 --> 0:38:54.000 you're not even doing it right, like you're trying to 0:38:54.080 --> 0:38:56.040 be tough and shit, like you don't even know who 0:38:56.080 --> 0:38:58.080 you're talking to. I raised up my shirt and showed him, 0:38:58.120 --> 0:39:00.600 you know, like nigga, you you out here just being tough, 0:39:01.080 --> 0:39:02.839 you know what I mean? And I told him, I said, dog, 0:39:03.280 --> 0:39:05.640 you know the cemetery full of tough niggas. You know 0:39:05.680 --> 0:39:08.000 what I'm saying. The penitentiary full of tough niggas too. 0:39:08.040 --> 0:39:09.719 They had to show them niggas what time it was, 0:39:10.120 --> 0:39:12.800 so it's a lose lose situation. But he acted like 0:39:12.880 --> 0:39:16.400 he had never been talked to like that before. He apologized, 0:39:16.880 --> 0:39:19.520 gave me, you know, Dapa sit man my bad behind me. Boy, 0:39:19.560 --> 0:39:21.840 you know how he is out here. So when I 0:39:21.960 --> 0:39:25.120 walked away from that situation, I said, damn, I said, 0:39:25.120 --> 0:39:28.120 I finally grew up. I finally grew up, you know 0:39:28.160 --> 0:39:30.600 what I'm saying. Because I didn't care rather he thought 0:39:30.640 --> 0:39:33.239 I was a whole ass nigga. I didn't care whether 0:39:33.360 --> 0:39:35.319 he thought I told him that I said, dog, if 0:39:35.360 --> 0:39:36.920 you this is what I don't care if you say 0:39:36.960 --> 0:39:39.560 I'm a bit or whatever you're gonna say about me. Dog, 0:39:39.880 --> 0:39:41.240 you know what I'm saying. I don't have no problem 0:39:41.280 --> 0:39:43.960 with you. This is just a misunderstanding, you know. And 0:39:44.239 --> 0:39:48.040 I say that I was about five six, you know 0:39:48.040 --> 0:39:50.160 what I'm saying. So I think that's when I hit 0:39:50.160 --> 0:39:53.000 adulthood right then, even though I had an old lady, 0:39:53.480 --> 0:39:57.480 kids and all that ship. You know, my mentality, you know, 0:39:58.080 --> 0:40:01.320 ship sometimes even now, you know what I mean, you 0:40:01.480 --> 0:40:04.560 may kind of digressive, bit, you know what I'm saying 0:40:04.719 --> 0:40:07.359 with certain situations. I think I think we all don't 0:40:07.400 --> 0:40:09.480 have them nigger moments as adults, that we don't have 0:40:09.600 --> 0:40:12.800 them miltdowns and ship. The motherfucker press your button and 0:40:12.880 --> 0:40:16.480 you start acting out when the motherfuckering ship. You know, 0:40:16.880 --> 0:40:20.320 So would you say man for because it seemed like 0:40:20.440 --> 0:40:22.400 you had a plan, right And it don't go like 0:40:22.520 --> 0:40:25.200 that for everybody, because I think for every former D 0:40:25.400 --> 0:40:29.040 boy man, they very seldom get to actually become who 0:40:29.120 --> 0:40:31.920 they are supposed to be, because I know most of 0:40:31.960 --> 0:40:34.520 them is like every drug dealer I ever knew was 0:40:34.560 --> 0:40:36.600 actually some of the best business people I don't ever 0:40:36.680 --> 0:40:38.680 seen you know what I mean. And I ain't gonna 0:40:38.680 --> 0:40:41.319 put none of my homies, but it's an executive out 0:40:41.360 --> 0:40:43.160 that not it's killing it. And I know for Shore, 0:40:43.280 --> 0:40:45.640 he was you know what I'm saying, doing his things. 0:40:45.680 --> 0:40:47.480 Some of them make the best businessman, but a lot 0:40:47.560 --> 0:40:51.120 of them don't get that chance, the opportunity. Like you said, man, 0:40:51.360 --> 0:40:54.000 you know a lot of people. Man. I think when 0:40:54.040 --> 0:40:55.960 people go when they're about to get cracked, I think 0:40:56.000 --> 0:40:58.760 they know. My brother in law was about to get cracked. 0:40:58.800 --> 0:41:01.000 He knew, we thought he is losing his mind. You know. 0:41:01.080 --> 0:41:02.920 I think everybody knows, so you might not have been 0:41:03.000 --> 0:41:06.960 going crazy, you know what I think. Man, It was 0:41:07.040 --> 0:41:09.400 somebody telling on me at the point, because when I 0:41:09.440 --> 0:41:13.160 would come back from Kansas City, UM, or really from 0:41:13.200 --> 0:41:15.239 anywhere in the Midwest. When I would come through l 0:41:15.280 --> 0:41:18.759 a x Dog, the people would always jam me up, 0:41:18.880 --> 0:41:20.359 you know what I'm saying. They called me with money 0:41:20.360 --> 0:41:22.919 a few times, you know, and I would be like, damn, 0:41:22.920 --> 0:41:24.439 I didn't know what I'm coming through. That I start 0:41:24.480 --> 0:41:26.799 trying different airlines and ship and I'm not talking I'm 0:41:26.800 --> 0:41:29.720 talking about when I'm leaving l a X Plain clothes 0:41:29.800 --> 0:41:32.360 motherfuckers start coming up to me like you know how 0:41:32.440 --> 0:41:34.040 much you know, how much money do you have on you? 0:41:34.239 --> 0:41:36.080 You know what I mean. I'm like, when that ship start, 0:41:36.200 --> 0:41:38.840 you know, so you you see little signs like that, 0:41:39.160 --> 0:41:40.480 and I don't want to make it seem like I 0:41:40.640 --> 0:41:42.720 was on something. You know, I wasn't, you know, Freeway 0:41:42.840 --> 0:41:44.640 Ricky Ross and no ship like that, you know what 0:41:44.680 --> 0:41:47.000 I mean. I was a weed, dude. I didn't funk 0:41:47.080 --> 0:41:50.000 with none of that other ship, right. I learned that 0:41:50.160 --> 0:41:53.440 early on because you know, because of them crack laws 0:41:53.480 --> 0:41:55.399 and ship you know what I'm saying, And I start 0:41:55.440 --> 0:42:00.279 seeing niggas you know, getting some ship or ounce, you 0:42:00.320 --> 0:42:06.239 know what I'm saying. That's what made a lot of 0:42:06.360 --> 0:42:09.200 niggers though, go to the weed game stead of the 0:42:09.320 --> 0:42:12.520 d game, you mean, because man, the motherfucking laws back 0:42:12.600 --> 0:42:16.160 then wasn't no Still still motherfucker's was getting cracked for 0:42:16.200 --> 0:42:21.640 that weed though. Yeah, I was operating in federal guidelines 0:42:21.760 --> 0:42:23.640 with the weed because I'm you know, I'm getting for 0:42:23.840 --> 0:42:26.239 five hundred pounds, you know what I'm saying. But even 0:42:26.360 --> 0:42:29.120 still it was still different. It's Reggie ship, this their 0:42:29.160 --> 0:42:34.160 headaches ship right right right? That stressed stress. Yeah, you 0:42:34.200 --> 0:42:38.399 know what I'm saying. But but it was going back then, 0:42:38.960 --> 0:42:41.360 back in them days, and that's all you had in 0:42:41.480 --> 0:42:44.839 the mid West, man. No, yeah, that's all they had. Yeah, 0:42:45.040 --> 0:42:47.120 you know this is before me, this is you know me. 0:42:47.280 --> 0:42:49.759 It wasn't even the thing y'all had indol and yeah 0:42:49.800 --> 0:42:52.840 we we had a little time. We have orange. But 0:42:53.000 --> 0:42:55.479 you go back on tour back east, nigga, you knop 0:42:55.520 --> 0:42:59.520 off that motherfucking tour bus sticks and stones may break 0:42:59.600 --> 0:43:15.000 your old ship. Fine cracker going off like God? Really, 0:43:15.160 --> 0:43:19.560 but going back back then, yeah, nigga pounded that ship 0:43:19.680 --> 0:43:23.000 was going for thousand dollars. I mean because what it 0:43:23.160 --> 0:43:25.040 was back then. I mean, it's old ship. But like 0:43:25.200 --> 0:43:28.759 I paid two d pass so and I come back 0:43:28.800 --> 0:43:31.640 home six fifty you know what I'm saying, six hundred 0:43:32.640 --> 0:43:38.240 just cash out. 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Richual was off from all against the 0:45:12.719 --> 0:45:15.760 chronicle listeners Timper sent off during your first three months, 0:45:16.320 --> 0:45:20.000 visit ritual dot com forward slash GC want to want 0:45:20.040 --> 0:45:24.600 to start your rich water day. I didn't deal with niggas. 0:45:24.640 --> 0:45:27.120 I felt like I didn't have nothing to lose, you 0:45:27.160 --> 0:45:29.879 know what I'm saying. And nigga don't do anything for money. 0:45:30.040 --> 0:45:31.920 I didn't deal with them. I deal with niggas that 0:45:32.040 --> 0:45:34.680 had businesses, niggas that worked every day but still did 0:45:34.760 --> 0:45:36.840 their things and they was trying to just you know, 0:45:37.000 --> 0:45:41.239 get by. I didn't deal with like trapping, trapping tight niggas. Yeah, 0:45:41.239 --> 0:45:43.520 weed is a whole different clients, yea man, because I 0:45:44.120 --> 0:45:46.640 sold both, and I'll tell you I prefer the weed 0:45:46.760 --> 0:45:53.399 customer crack customerstomer. Yeah, you know chilling how that I'm 0:45:53.440 --> 0:45:59.359 saying stick, you know, because the weed because I lived 0:45:59.480 --> 0:46:01.319 next door for a whole bunch of people that went 0:46:01.400 --> 0:46:04.160 to Long Beach State, And so I be able to 0:46:04.239 --> 0:46:06.480 go get an ounce of red hair sets for thirty 0:46:06.800 --> 0:46:10.960 forty bucks man from Ontario, I will drive out the Ontario. 0:46:11.840 --> 0:46:13.560 Don't get me two or three ounces of red hair 0:46:13.600 --> 0:46:16.160 sets and just come on and bag up, yeah, and 0:46:16.400 --> 0:46:18.719 be so without dude, and just made my money that way. 0:46:18.719 --> 0:46:20.960 And it was just a way easier time. When I 0:46:21.080 --> 0:46:23.520 got into the crack, ship Dog, it feels like the 0:46:23.640 --> 0:46:26.280 devil said your chest man. It's like it's a crazy 0:46:26.360 --> 0:46:29.799 ass motherfucking It's just real. It's a funked up five, 0:46:29.960 --> 0:46:31.920 you know what I mean. Crack touched my family like 0:46:32.000 --> 0:46:35.279 I'm sure it did everybody and everybody's what I'm saying. 0:46:35.400 --> 0:46:37.880 And I just didn't see. I knew niggas that was 0:46:38.000 --> 0:46:39.640 making money in it, you know what I'm saying. And 0:46:40.000 --> 0:46:41.880 you know I do niggas doing you know, phone a 0:46:41.960 --> 0:46:46.640 halves nine eighteens, everybody like they was. The man was 0:46:46.680 --> 0:46:48.560 doing like you said, niggas was doing four and a 0:46:48.640 --> 0:46:51.359 half and nine ounces, and ship I just not doing 0:46:51.440 --> 0:46:53.319 no more, you know what. You know what I'm saying, 0:46:53.360 --> 0:46:54.640 And that should go a long way in the hood 0:46:54.640 --> 0:46:56.359 where you could buy some dating's. You know what I'm saying, 0:46:56.440 --> 0:46:58.920 get your ship together, you look, you know, getting chains 0:46:58.960 --> 0:47:02.200 some clothes. But you know, I've seen too many niggas, man, 0:47:02.440 --> 0:47:04.799 you know, get that time and I was like, it's 0:47:04.840 --> 0:47:07.120 not worth an ounces a thousand dollars back then eight 0:47:07.200 --> 0:47:09.960 hundred dollars. And I'm like, bro, you know, ten years 0:47:10.040 --> 0:47:12.920 for a sixteen ro you know huh you know so 0:47:13.840 --> 0:47:16.239 um yeah, the weed thing, you know, that was what 0:47:16.400 --> 0:47:18.480 that was. And and I got a homeboy right now, 0:47:18.640 --> 0:47:22.279 man rat you know Chevelle Foy should he they gave 0:47:22.360 --> 0:47:26.080 him thirty years. I actually have a documentary that I'm 0:47:26.120 --> 0:47:30.239 producing called Ghostop based on that because you know, like 0:47:30.560 --> 0:47:32.759 he got thirty years. I went to high school with him. 0:47:32.800 --> 0:47:34.880 Good dude, you know what I'm saying, Telling nobody or 0:47:34.960 --> 0:47:38.440 nothing they game thirty years for they didn't catch him 0:47:38.440 --> 0:47:40.040 with a grain of salt. And you know that's how 0:47:40.080 --> 0:47:42.160 they get us with the conspiracy loss. You know what 0:47:42.200 --> 0:47:44.640 I'm saying. You know, if enohing niggas say you did it, 0:47:44.760 --> 0:47:46.680 then you didn't. They don't got to catch you with nothing. 0:47:46.719 --> 0:47:51.640 If if if me decided to conspire on you, say, man, 0:47:51.760 --> 0:47:53.680 I saw a kid of doping it back his car. 0:47:53.760 --> 0:47:56.040 They didn't come and pick you up. Man, thirty years 0:47:56.080 --> 0:47:57.799 of this man's life though, you know what I'm saying, 0:47:57.840 --> 0:48:00.520 they never and I read through the case and they 0:48:00.640 --> 0:48:04.200 basically convicted him on you know, they say ship, like, oh, well, 0:48:04.280 --> 0:48:07.600 through our surveillance and our wire taps, we estimate he 0:48:07.800 --> 0:48:10.760 was moving this estimated You charge the nigger with estimation, 0:48:10.880 --> 0:48:12.560 like you're supposed to put that ship on the table, 0:48:12.920 --> 0:48:15.480 you know what I mean. So, um, you know that, 0:48:15.920 --> 0:48:18.239 you know, the rules change when you start getting in 0:48:18.280 --> 0:48:20.320 the heron and all. You know, and even now with 0:48:20.520 --> 0:48:24.560 math and all that ship, you know, the game done. Really, 0:48:24.760 --> 0:48:26.840 you know what I'm saying with technology and all that, 0:48:26.880 --> 0:48:29.759 because even I'm younger than y'all, but you know, so 0:48:29.880 --> 0:48:31.839 I'm in the nineties when I jumped off the porch, 0:48:31.960 --> 0:48:34.120 but the eighties y'all could really get it. You know 0:48:34.160 --> 0:48:37.239 what I'm saying, y'all could really get it. But man, 0:48:37.280 --> 0:48:42.239 it's too much technology. Boy, we just talked about the 0:48:42.280 --> 0:48:48.440 one in jail now, macminister. Yea, yeah, yeah, yeah. Technology 0:48:48.520 --> 0:48:51.520 will catch your ass up like like a motherfucker dude. 0:48:51.960 --> 0:48:54.920 Because the thing was, I got a homeboy, that worked 0:48:54.960 --> 0:48:57.920 on I ain't gonna say what beer he worked for, 0:48:58.080 --> 0:49:01.160 but he worked homicide. And he told me, man, they 0:49:01.280 --> 0:49:05.040 cracked the case. He said, dude, here's something crazy. We 0:49:05.200 --> 0:49:09.000 cracked the case because dude, I guess a piece of 0:49:09.120 --> 0:49:11.120 damn from a piece of his skin fell off, bro 0:49:11.280 --> 0:49:13.800 for sure, and they was able to take that. Look like, 0:49:14.040 --> 0:49:16.080 how the hell do you find a piece of skin 0:49:16.200 --> 0:49:19.959 and the shag carpet, bro, and just in there looking 0:49:20.000 --> 0:49:22.240 at and that. He said he had the perfect crime. 0:49:22.719 --> 0:49:27.680 But and find pizzas And that's just scary though, just 0:49:27.880 --> 0:49:32.760 the coldest one County jail. You know, you gotta get swabbed, definitely, 0:49:34.600 --> 0:49:38.320 that's start opinion and painion. And they started taking motherfucker's 0:49:38.320 --> 0:49:43.520 out of their sail. Oh uh we investigating this and 0:49:43.800 --> 0:49:48.680 from years ago, yeah, oh, because you gotta get swabbed 0:49:48.680 --> 0:49:50.920 in county jail. Now now you can be out of 0:49:50.920 --> 0:49:53.239 there raping the motherfucker. Why don't they put that ship through. 0:49:53.920 --> 0:49:56.160 What you get, what you get a felony, so you 0:49:56.239 --> 0:50:01.399 become a felon here. So now they've breaking motherfucker's down 0:50:01.480 --> 0:50:05.719 with it. I've been I'm talking about five ships rape 0:50:06.200 --> 0:50:10.240 just DNA match. That's the coldest ship on the planet 0:50:13.360 --> 0:50:16.080 because they have swabbed the nigger like it ain't ship. Yeah, 0:50:16.600 --> 0:50:19.080 I'd have been a prisoner to my own technology though, 0:50:19.480 --> 0:50:21.840 And thank god, by man, I remember what it was 0:50:21.880 --> 0:50:23.640 probably a couple of years ago, you know, I had 0:50:23.719 --> 0:50:26.000 one of the moments of uh, you know what I'm saying, 0:50:27.040 --> 0:50:30.280 you know, and I wanted to it was something happening, 0:50:30.520 --> 0:50:32.440 you know what I mean, And I was I was 0:50:32.640 --> 0:50:34.600 about to get on some bullshit. But then you get 0:50:34.680 --> 0:50:36.239 to think, and I was like, funk, I got all 0:50:36.320 --> 0:50:38.879 these rain cameras around my house and I couldn't even 0:50:38.920 --> 0:50:40.560 think of how to delete the ship. You know what 0:50:40.600 --> 0:50:43.080 I'm saying, Like, Oh, you can't go to my house 0:50:43.160 --> 0:50:45.560 and be like nigga, you left at twelve am. You 0:50:45.640 --> 0:50:47.680 know what I mean. You get cut your house. You 0:50:47.760 --> 0:50:50.680 don't come and tell you the biggest thing, the biggest 0:50:50.719 --> 0:50:53.239 thing to get motherfucker's cut up. Now, this ship right here, 0:50:54.520 --> 0:50:58.720 right next to their phone, right make phone, dog, because 0:50:58.800 --> 0:51:01.200 this ship right here, dude, I don't care what kind 0:51:01.239 --> 0:51:04.320 of alibiut you get. Who you thinking motherfucker's think is 0:51:04.400 --> 0:51:08.160 they turned his motherfucker off. It could plank to you 0:51:08.320 --> 0:51:11.399 right right now. One thing. No, no, no, I bet 0:51:11.440 --> 0:51:14.360 they're different on that one. Turn that motherfucker off. It 0:51:14.480 --> 0:51:19.480 ain't gonna pin. They can't tell where you I don't know, James, 0:51:19.520 --> 0:51:21.719 because now they got the ship where the camera like 0:51:22.600 --> 0:51:24.960 right now, this motherfuck probably taking pictures of me right now. 0:51:25.160 --> 0:51:26.600 You know what I'm saying, Like they got it where 0:51:26.880 --> 0:51:32.480 turn their mother upside down there clothed. They can't be 0:51:32.920 --> 0:51:35.960 where you at, but its mother motherfucker. You gotta do 0:51:36.040 --> 0:51:39.200 his thing. Your phone on, baby, hit my phone callers 0:51:39.320 --> 0:51:41.800 number a certain amount of time and just let it 0:51:41.920 --> 0:51:49.920 just ship there. Yea, like the truth. I didn't know 0:51:50.000 --> 0:51:54.880 what you're doing to record what's what's on the this 0:51:55.040 --> 0:51:57.320 time from this time? But this is my thing, Like 0:51:57.400 --> 0:51:59.640 what I tell young guys, man, you know what saying, 0:51:59.640 --> 0:52:02.080 specially those from my city who familiar with you know 0:52:02.200 --> 0:52:05.480 the run I had back then, and you know, listen, 0:52:05.600 --> 0:52:08.160 everybody have a good run. You got an expiration date. 0:52:08.280 --> 0:52:10.120 It just is what it is. If I still have 0:52:10.239 --> 0:52:12.320 been doing that, I'm sure at some point I'd have 0:52:12.480 --> 0:52:15.920 an issue, you know, at some point, you know, I say, man, 0:52:16.000 --> 0:52:18.320 you you know you use that ship, you use what 0:52:18.480 --> 0:52:20.560 you learned in that, you use your resource. You know 0:52:20.600 --> 0:52:22.520 what I mean. You so with a plan and with 0:52:22.600 --> 0:52:26.320 a purpose. You know. Um, I mean every good business 0:52:26.440 --> 0:52:28.439 was founded on a good crime. You know what I'm saying. 0:52:28.480 --> 0:52:30.400 When you think the health the United States? You know 0:52:30.440 --> 0:52:33.600 what I'm saying. So even with prohibition and all that ship, 0:52:33.719 --> 0:52:36.080 you know what I mean, it's all founded on some bullshit. 0:52:36.239 --> 0:52:39.719 So I always tell guys, man, you gotta he sees 0:52:39.760 --> 0:52:42.200 your opportunity. I told a little homie of mine, you 0:52:42.239 --> 0:52:43.480 know what I'm saying. He gonna see this and know 0:52:43.560 --> 0:52:45.719 who I'm talking about. But here a little part of 0:52:45.840 --> 0:52:48.160 mine that was He wind up being on the FBI's 0:52:48.200 --> 0:52:50.120 most wanting He was on the run for five years. 0:52:50.480 --> 0:52:52.600 I literally told this nigga. I said, bro, you are 0:52:52.680 --> 0:52:54.880 having a wonderful run. I told him this when he 0:52:55.000 --> 0:52:56.960 was getting it, getting it, getting it right. I mean 0:52:57.000 --> 0:52:59.200 this nigga would I said, you having a run way 0:52:59.320 --> 0:53:01.439 past what I was doing because his nigga ball rolls 0:53:01.520 --> 0:53:09.000 Royces and all kind of ship. So no, and he 0:53:09.160 --> 0:53:12.080 was telling me not because it man, it's weed, And said, 0:53:12.200 --> 0:53:14.440 I said, nigger, I said, the amount of me that 0:53:14.560 --> 0:53:17.800 you're doing, they get no, you you they get it. 0:53:17.920 --> 0:53:20.080 You know what I'm saying, and they end up, you 0:53:20.120 --> 0:53:21.960 know what I'm saying, catching up with him and he 0:53:22.080 --> 0:53:23.719 told me. He was like, man, you're right, bro. He 0:53:23.840 --> 0:53:25.279 was like he was right because I was telling him. 0:53:25.280 --> 0:53:27.800 I was like, bro, you know, man, you have so 0:53:28.000 --> 0:53:30.399 much money. Now you become a prisoner of your money. 0:53:30.440 --> 0:53:32.080 You can't even do ship with it, you know what 0:53:32.080 --> 0:53:35.400 I mean. You gotta rolls Royce and your sister's name, like, 0:53:36.360 --> 0:53:38.400 you know what I mean? Like what you doing? You 0:53:38.480 --> 0:53:40.680 know what I mean? So you know that's why I 0:53:40.760 --> 0:53:43.440 try to tell these young guys, man, educate yourself, you know, 0:53:43.800 --> 0:53:45.920 find something that you love. You know, you got guys 0:53:46.000 --> 0:53:49.120 that you know, you like cars, Okay, start flipping some cars, 0:53:49.280 --> 0:53:51.320 you know, get you a little lot, you know what 0:53:51.360 --> 0:53:53.160 I mean, whatever it is you like doing, you know 0:53:53.200 --> 0:53:55.360 what I mean? Like you know ship? Hey, you know 0:53:55.640 --> 0:53:58.480 you you was an athlete. You enjoyed football, So you're coaching, 0:53:58.560 --> 0:54:01.640 you know what I mean. So you know it's always 0:54:01.680 --> 0:54:03.680 something that you love, you know, and and you're going 0:54:03.719 --> 0:54:05.640 to succeed at it. So that's what I like. Because 0:54:05.640 --> 0:54:07.600 me and Pete we travel. We talked to kids a lot, 0:54:07.960 --> 0:54:10.080 and that's always my message to them. Even some of 0:54:10.120 --> 0:54:12.000 the ones is older. You know they've got their mind 0:54:12.120 --> 0:54:14.120 made up. You know that that's what they're gonna do. 0:54:14.280 --> 0:54:16.239 I'm like, dog, you know what I'm saying, you could 0:54:16.239 --> 0:54:18.600 do you You probably have skills that will take you 0:54:18.719 --> 0:54:21.319 so much further. Yeah, man, So I know you gotta 0:54:22.440 --> 0:54:25.520 your next step in your evolution. You don't step in 0:54:25.600 --> 0:54:28.759 the media and you gotta podcast now. You gotta show 0:54:28.840 --> 0:54:31.800 eats you doing now? Yeah? Yeah, for sure holding court podcast. 0:54:31.880 --> 0:54:33.880 You know what I'm saying. I did that with me 0:54:34.000 --> 0:54:36.439 and my co producer Ken. You know what I'm saying, 0:54:36.480 --> 0:54:40.399 Producer Ken. Um. You know, We've been producing a lot 0:54:40.480 --> 0:54:43.319 of content. You know, I got a TV show as well, 0:54:43.480 --> 0:54:46.800 called twelve that I produced, Um, that I created with 0:54:46.960 --> 0:54:51.000 me and act actress Jasmine Lewis. You know what I'm saying. Uh, 0:54:51.360 --> 0:54:54.320 we got a sticky fingers attached to it, you know 0:54:54.360 --> 0:54:56.600 what I mean. We got Master p in it, We 0:54:56.680 --> 0:54:59.520 got Dion Cole in it. So really I kind of 0:54:59.640 --> 0:55:03.440 been focusing on just being a media company in general, 0:55:03.560 --> 0:55:06.600 you know what I'm saying. So the podcast is just 0:55:06.680 --> 0:55:08.920 the arm of that, you know what I mean? Um? 0:55:09.200 --> 0:55:11.320 And you know, like I tell guys, man, I'm not 0:55:11.640 --> 0:55:14.560 formally educated. I graduated high school, you know what I'm saying. 0:55:14.640 --> 0:55:17.400 So everything that I've learned up to this point has 0:55:17.480 --> 0:55:20.000 been just simply trying, you know what I mean, and 0:55:20.160 --> 0:55:23.560 felling and and you know, just learning from the missteps, 0:55:23.640 --> 0:55:27.680 you know what I'm saying. Yeah, even with with movie production, 0:55:27.760 --> 0:55:30.080 with with music, with real estate. I didn't go to 0:55:30.120 --> 0:55:31.800 school for none of that, ship though. It's just a 0:55:31.880 --> 0:55:35.040 lot of common sense and that tenacity and that focus 0:55:35.160 --> 0:55:38.840 from you know, hustling. But so yeah, I created the 0:55:39.160 --> 0:55:42.080 Holding Court podcast man, and uh, you know, I wanted 0:55:42.160 --> 0:55:44.400 it to be a place where, you know, kind of 0:55:44.480 --> 0:55:46.480 like drink Champs, where you come and celebrate the o 0:55:46.640 --> 0:55:48.719 g s. You know what I'm saying. Like a lot 0:55:48.800 --> 0:55:51.520 of these young niggas, they you know, they throw around 0:55:51.560 --> 0:55:54.319 the turn boss, everybody a boss boss boss. I don't 0:55:54.320 --> 0:55:56.360 think they really have a reference point at what that is, 0:55:56.560 --> 0:55:58.160 you know what I'm saying. Just because you've got some money, 0:55:58.520 --> 0:56:00.640 you know what I mean, and what you know that 0:56:01.200 --> 0:56:04.120 you know, I appreciate the motherfucker's who did it with 0:56:04.280 --> 0:56:06.239 no reference point, you know what I'm saying. When you 0:56:06.320 --> 0:56:09.759 look at you, you know, like Luther Campbell's and uh, 0:56:10.320 --> 0:56:13.920 Tony Draper's and and Jay Frances. You know, there was 0:56:14.000 --> 0:56:16.000 no reference point at what they did, you know what 0:56:16.040 --> 0:56:18.200 I mean? Back then, niggas just want to record deal 0:56:18.239 --> 0:56:20.279 when nobody thinking, like, you know what, I can own 0:56:20.360 --> 0:56:26.200 some ship in control and they that't That's what I'm saying. 0:56:26.280 --> 0:56:29.279 So I created the Holding Court Podcast to break on 0:56:29.640 --> 0:56:31.800 you know people, not just you know them, but just 0:56:32.000 --> 0:56:35.920 anybody that's proficient and and you know they're laying and 0:56:36.000 --> 0:56:37.800 what they're doing, and to celebrate them, you know what 0:56:37.800 --> 0:56:40.160 I mean, and document their journey because man, you know, 0:56:40.239 --> 0:56:42.080 at this point in my life, bro, I'm all about 0:56:42.560 --> 0:56:44.960 you know what I'm saying, inspiring people, you know what 0:56:45.000 --> 0:56:47.480 I mean, Like even with healthy living, like I look 0:56:47.560 --> 0:56:49.759 like this, I work out as a lifestyle, but I 0:56:49.840 --> 0:56:53.399 also try to you know, motivate us as as black people, 0:56:53.480 --> 0:56:55.480 as Niggers in the hood that you know, to be 0:56:55.600 --> 0:56:58.160 health conscious, you know what I'm saying. You know, it's 0:56:58.200 --> 0:57:00.319 cool to look like this, but more importantly, you want 0:57:00.320 --> 0:57:02.800 to be healthy on the inside because you got you 0:57:02.840 --> 0:57:05.520 gotta protein or something protein. Yeah yeah. I got my 0:57:05.600 --> 0:57:08.520 own supplement line called True Muscle Sports, and that was 0:57:08.600 --> 0:57:10.960 something that Pete you know, we travel a lot, you 0:57:11.000 --> 0:57:13.040 know what I mean. And Pete, you know, we would 0:57:13.040 --> 0:57:15.080 go places and people would always ask me like what 0:57:15.239 --> 0:57:16.960 do I would I take. I would run down the 0:57:17.040 --> 0:57:19.640 laundry list of ship that I take, and he was like, 0:57:19.760 --> 0:57:21.560 may need to be telling these people you take something 0:57:21.600 --> 0:57:24.040 your own. And then I was like, damn, I never 0:57:24.080 --> 0:57:26.000 thought about it. He always think about how to hustle 0:57:26.040 --> 0:57:32.040 some Yeah, business man, it's the motherfucker's who has the 0:57:32.120 --> 0:57:35.480 mentality like why give him the money when you can 0:57:35.560 --> 0:57:38.760 do it yourself? Why promote his ship when you should 0:57:38.800 --> 0:57:42.720 be promoting your own ship. Yeah, it's the same. I mean, 0:57:42.800 --> 0:57:46.560 it's the same ship they did if they can go 0:57:46.640 --> 0:57:48.560 out and make some protein part and a lot of 0:57:48.640 --> 0:57:51.080 people do that. That's all I did. And he helped 0:57:51.120 --> 0:57:54.560 me with it. He literally found the manufacturing ship. He said, Court, 0:57:54.640 --> 0:57:56.680 let's do it. So it's the same thing that we're 0:57:56.760 --> 0:57:58.880 doing with his You know, he has his products and 0:57:58.960 --> 0:58:01.800 all of that, with the grocery store stuff. And I'm 0:58:01.840 --> 0:58:04.919 gonna tell you I saw some master Pete rice. Yeah, 0:58:04.960 --> 0:58:09.000 he got rice, cereal, pancakes, all this ship. You know 0:58:09.000 --> 0:58:11.600 what I'm saying. So that's the hustling mock man. This 0:58:11.760 --> 0:58:14.400 nigga boy. He sell Ice toy Eskimo twice. I'm trying 0:58:14.400 --> 0:58:17.600 to tell you. Yeah. So so what I told him, 0:58:17.640 --> 0:58:19.200 I said, Pete, what we need to do is we 0:58:19.320 --> 0:58:21.480 need to create something healthy, you know what I mean. 0:58:21.880 --> 0:58:23.920 And let me run that arm of it. Let me 0:58:23.960 --> 0:58:26.240 be the ambassador for that arm, you know, and especially 0:58:26.280 --> 0:58:29.360 because his narrative is, you know, black business, black owned. 0:58:29.480 --> 0:58:31.200 You know, you want to make a way for your people, 0:58:31.320 --> 0:58:33.120 for your partners, you know what I'm saying. So it's 0:58:33.160 --> 0:58:35.200 something we're doing together. So we have a healthy snack 0:58:35.560 --> 0:58:38.440 that we've developed that it'll be out this summer. So 0:58:38.760 --> 0:58:41.520 that and ship, like I said the Holding Court podcast, 0:58:41.640 --> 0:58:43.720 I had ship Pete and came through and done it. 0:58:43.920 --> 0:58:51.080 Silky Shocker, Chico Brown, Um felly male h Ship bone 0:58:51.160 --> 0:58:55.840 thugs well flesh and bone, busybone Um trying to get 0:58:55.880 --> 0:58:59.640 eight excuse me, trying to get eight on that motherfucker 0:58:59.760 --> 0:59:04.040 trying to get games. You know, the sticky fingers man, 0:59:04.200 --> 0:59:08.200 Jasmine Lewis, um J Prince came through. I know you 0:59:08.280 --> 0:59:12.240 got many of your big fancy place over there. Professional 0:59:12.320 --> 0:59:16.040 and everything I was doing and everything I did it 0:59:16.080 --> 0:59:18.280 big because you know that's what I'm saying, bro, I 0:59:19.040 --> 0:59:22.640 come from that understanding of no limits. So we always 0:59:22.760 --> 0:59:25.360 made ship look big. You always gotta make that ship 0:59:25.440 --> 0:59:27.000 look big when you do it, you know what I mean. 0:59:27.200 --> 0:59:29.440 So that's why I had my set built. You know, 0:59:29.600 --> 0:59:32.000 we got the three cameras, I got the sound ruined 0:59:32.040 --> 0:59:34.520 the whole nine, you know what I mean. So you know, 0:59:34.680 --> 0:59:36.400 but you know I'm working with you still. You know 0:59:36.520 --> 0:59:38.360 we're gonna figure some sh it out all right, for 0:59:38.440 --> 0:59:42.240 shore man, for show man. Man. There you have it, man, 0:59:43.760 --> 0:59:45.960 And that's you know what, Man, if you got your 0:59:45.960 --> 0:59:48.400 ship together, you can pretty much accomplish anything in life 0:59:48.400 --> 0:59:51.439 and ain't no excute if you got your head on right. Yeah, 0:59:51.920 --> 0:59:55.080 this man when came from Kansas City, Missouri, selling weed 0:59:55.200 --> 0:59:59.240 though and doing this thing, and manipulated this opportunity, you 0:59:59.280 --> 1:00:01.800 know what I mean. I made a lot of mistakes, though, James. 1:00:01.840 --> 1:00:03.840 So I mean still I want to you know, I 1:00:03.920 --> 1:00:05.960 made a lot of mistakes. That's part of the process, 1:00:06.080 --> 1:00:08.160 you know. You have to be willing to fall on 1:00:08.240 --> 1:00:11.000 your face, you know. So I just didn't get everything right, 1:00:11.160 --> 1:00:13.440 you know, And that's why I tell youngsters a lot 1:00:13.520 --> 1:00:15.440 of the times we had we as O. G. S. 1:00:15.520 --> 1:00:17.880 We have the information, not because we just did everything right. 1:00:17.960 --> 1:00:21.600 Sometimes go we fucked up a lot me so, but 1:00:21.720 --> 1:00:24.000 before you do all that, though, I just want to 1:00:24.120 --> 1:00:25.960 let me, let me have a moment to give you 1:00:26.120 --> 1:00:28.160 your flowers though, and you as well. You know what 1:00:28.200 --> 1:00:31.160 I'm saying, because I got inspired to do my podcast 1:00:31.280 --> 1:00:33.360 because of y'all, you know what I'm saying, and watching 1:00:33.440 --> 1:00:38.640 that man and el yeah, and watching James for real, 1:00:38.760 --> 1:00:41.840 real talk. This ain't no Hollywood ship you do. You 1:00:41.920 --> 1:00:44.040 know your evolution, you know what I'm saying. From the 1:00:44.120 --> 1:00:46.640 first interview that you did, and I was like, damn, 1:00:47.320 --> 1:00:49.520 because it was like you didn't want to do the cameras. 1:00:49.560 --> 1:00:51.200 It was just like you was just like, man, listen, 1:00:51.280 --> 1:00:53.160 y'all paying me to be here. Fuck it? What you want? 1:00:53.280 --> 1:00:55.040 What you want to know, I'm gonna tell you. But 1:00:55.120 --> 1:00:57.320 then I watched you embraced that space, you know what 1:00:57.400 --> 1:00:59.840 I'm saying, and come into your own and you just 1:01:00.080 --> 1:01:02.160 covered what you had to offer to the world, you 1:01:02.200 --> 1:01:05.840 know what saying, with your testimony and your growth. So man, 1:01:05.960 --> 1:01:08.560 salute to you. Thank you. You know what I mean. 1:01:09.760 --> 1:01:12.320 Come on, bro, I grew up on you Monday. You 1:01:12.400 --> 1:01:14.560 know what I'm saying, I feel like this is an 1:01:14.600 --> 1:01:16.560 older brother right here. You know what I mean, all 1:01:16.600 --> 1:01:21.080 the way from Nigga. The Blue Tape, Um, I bullshit 1:01:21.200 --> 1:01:25.120 you not. We made it was a clean tape. Yeah, 1:01:25.160 --> 1:01:27.040 you know what I'm saying. We had two version. Yeah, 1:01:27.280 --> 1:01:30.480 that was a super inspirational song, you know, back then. 1:01:30.560 --> 1:01:32.600 You know what I'm saying For me that that was 1:01:32.960 --> 1:01:35.160 the first rap song that I heard that got me 1:01:35.240 --> 1:01:38.200 into music. Was Iced Tea Squeeze the trigger. But when 1:01:38.200 --> 1:01:39.919 I got that Blue tape, you know what I'm saying, 1:01:39.920 --> 1:01:43.320 that we made it, it was like it encapsulated just 1:01:43.520 --> 1:01:47.920 that that that dream exactly with a dream, because we 1:01:48.040 --> 1:01:51.280 all had one as being young kids. We all had 1:01:51.320 --> 1:01:55.240 a dream of being something that we became at that moment, 1:01:55.360 --> 1:01:57.280 you know what I'm saying. So I used to always 1:01:57.320 --> 1:02:00.840 write raps about that ship, you know, being stuck in poverty, 1:02:00.920 --> 1:02:03.960 being stuck in the gang ship, and wondering what it 1:02:03.960 --> 1:02:06.240 would be like if a nigger had a different path. 1:02:06.440 --> 1:02:09.000 You get me, so all you always you had to 1:02:09.040 --> 1:02:11.920 write those perspectives for because I felt like it was 1:02:11.960 --> 1:02:15.640 always somebody like myself out there getting me, even though 1:02:15.760 --> 1:02:18.920 nig It was banging and doing all that ship we 1:02:19.080 --> 1:02:22.720 all started from, you know, like nephew out there, we 1:02:22.840 --> 1:02:26.320 all started as an innocent young kid who had dreams 1:02:26.440 --> 1:02:29.840 of I don't be a police officer, fireman, I won't 1:02:29.880 --> 1:02:33.600 be a motherfucking football player or fucking whatever, and your 1:02:33.960 --> 1:02:37.240 your dream got crushed by growing up in the motherfucking 1:02:37.320 --> 1:02:41.120 hood man, straight up. That's all we made it. Bro 1:02:41.360 --> 1:02:44.600 That that inspired me. I don't know why. It always 1:02:44.640 --> 1:02:46.760 stuck with me, you know what I'm saying, And over 1:02:46.840 --> 1:02:49.400 the years I would I would kind of go back 1:02:49.440 --> 1:02:50.840 to it, you know what I'm saying, to kind of 1:02:50.880 --> 1:02:54.160 refocus my focus with different levels of my life. You 1:02:54.200 --> 1:02:56.000 know what I'm saying exactly, you know what I mean. 1:02:58.320 --> 1:03:01.200 Looking from it's good to see you here. You know, healthy, 1:03:01.520 --> 1:03:04.040 You ain't all funked up, you know exactly, still got 1:03:04.120 --> 1:03:06.240 your facilities, you still look like you Oh you just 1:03:06.320 --> 1:03:11.040 had a birthday and still my nigga. I love what 1:03:11.160 --> 1:03:13.120 you built with this whole thing, you know, and how 1:03:13.200 --> 1:03:15.560 you spearheading it, you know what I mean. And I 1:03:15.600 --> 1:03:17.720 appreciate you to my brother, so you know, I want 1:03:17.760 --> 1:03:23.280 to give y'all y'all exactly appreciate you brow which show 1:03:23.360 --> 1:03:25.200 you know what I got these kids with your gram? 1:03:25.280 --> 1:03:29.000 What's your Instagram? Exactly? My Instagram is I am Big Court. 1:03:29.120 --> 1:03:30.440 You know what I'm saying that they could follow the 1:03:30.480 --> 1:03:32.920 Holding Court podcast on i G as well. You know 1:03:33.080 --> 1:03:36.160 in Facebook. I think it's official Big Quarter, Big Court 1:03:36.200 --> 1:03:38.840 Officials some ship like that. But so man, we we 1:03:38.920 --> 1:03:41.000 could have a link in the description. Man, y'all make 1:03:41.000 --> 1:03:44.479 sure y'all check the homie out. And there's another one down. 1:03:44.640 --> 1:03:45.720 We out of here s