1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:06,000 Speaker 1: When I wrote, y'all all across the usc Compton Motts, 2 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:10,680 Speaker 1: thank to l A. Come on the California the Valley. 3 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 1: We represent that kind of county. So if you're keeping 4 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 1: it rail on your side of your town, you tune 5 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:22,120 Speaker 1: into Gangster Chronicles Gangster Chronic Goals. We're gonna tell you 6 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:25,479 Speaker 1: how we go. If I lie my nose a girl 7 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 1: like Pinocchio, We're gonna tell you the truth and nothing 8 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 1: but the truth Gangster Chronic Goals. This is not your 9 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 1: average show. You're now tuned into the Rail. M c A, 10 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 1: Dick James and mix Staires from the streets. Hello, Welcome 11 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 1: to the Gangster Chronicles podcast, the production of My Heart 12 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:51,159 Speaker 1: Radio and Black Effect Podcast Network. Make sure you download 13 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 1: the I Heard happen. Subscribe to The Gangster Chronicles for 14 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 1: my Apple users, hit the purple mica on your front screen. 15 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 1: Subscribe to The Gangster Chronicles and leave a five star 16 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 1: rate in the comment. We like to welcome everyone to 17 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:04,320 Speaker 1: another episode against the Chronicles podcast. And I'm with my 18 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 1: brothers Big j J and Um. You know it was 19 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:11,679 Speaker 1: a period of time man, back in the late nineties, 20 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 1: and uh, I would say, from the late nineties on 21 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 1: you know mid nineties kind of to the early two thousand's. 22 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:24,560 Speaker 1: Man Master P had a chokehold on rapping, a serious 23 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:26,680 Speaker 1: chokehold on rap, and it just kind of just can't 24 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:28,479 Speaker 1: you can't say it came from out of nowhere because 25 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:30,760 Speaker 1: he just kind of just crept on up. And I 26 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:33,400 Speaker 1: remember every No Limit record that you would go by. 27 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:35,480 Speaker 1: You look on the back of the album covering, you 28 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 1: see all these different cats you never heard of about 29 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 1: to come with albums. You'd be like, Man, it just 30 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 1: made you interested in knowing who these different artists. Was 31 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:46,760 Speaker 1: called Duggery Fiend and you know these dudes you never 32 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 1: heard of me a x Mr serve On and all 33 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 1: these different people and one of them people with somebody 34 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 1: from Kansas City, Missouri named Big Court and we got 35 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 1: them live in the hot seat tonight. Yeah, what's going on? Well, 36 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 1: backing with you, man, I'm glad to be here, bro 37 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 1: Man for sure. Man, we lead half you man, because 38 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 1: I got a lot of I really want to get 39 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 1: your perspective on a lot of different things, man, because 40 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 1: you're one of the people that kind of like made 41 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 1: it from rap and took advantage of all opportunities you 42 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:19,639 Speaker 1: hadn't rap and started to get into some whole other 43 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 1: stuff that we had talked about, you know, real estate 44 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 1: and just other different things that you know, the average 45 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 1: dude and thinking about that. Man when you get a 46 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 1: record contract, man, and you know, you just think about 47 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:33,360 Speaker 1: getting them some jewelry. Right, So that was your position. Yeah, 48 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:38,360 Speaker 1: I signed with Yeah, I wouldn't like this all the time. Man. 49 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 1: I was never secured to think about it. Bro. I 50 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 1: signed with P right out of high school. I was 51 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. This was ninety five, So 52 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:51,240 Speaker 1: now I played basketball, right, Everybody think I was like this, 53 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:52,960 Speaker 1: but I wasn't. You know what I I say. I didn't 54 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:54,919 Speaker 1: start I didn't pick up a wait till I was thirty. 55 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:58,639 Speaker 1: Run Sure you guys, if y'all see this brother, this 56 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 1: brother is on swoll right, Yeah, you got like pop 57 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 1: my arm. Yeah. You know what. The strange thing about 58 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 1: me working out, like to be honest with you, like 59 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 1: I was doing I was. I was really doing some 60 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:13,679 Speaker 1: ship I wasn't supposed to be doing, and and I 61 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 1: was moving in such a way where mentally I was 62 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 1: kind of like, I guess I could say in the 63 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 1: back of my mind getting sell block. Ready, you know 64 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:23,240 Speaker 1: what I'm saying like that was part of my motivation. 65 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 1: You felt like that at the time, you know what 66 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:29,680 Speaker 1: I'm saying, because I still you know, I always was 67 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 1: able to have the duality. I was always able to 68 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying too, like I had. I 69 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 1: was making money in music, but I was moving in 70 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 1: the street too. And you know, sometimes when you get 71 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 1: money and it becomes so easy, you feel like, oh, yeah, 72 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 1: they watched me. They just let me just dig my ditch. 73 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 1: And I felt like it was right around the corner, 74 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And so I just you know, 75 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 1: I literally just start you know, That's why I started 76 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 1: buying real estate. I started kind of like mentally preparing 77 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:02,119 Speaker 1: myself thinking that, you know, ship that other shoe gonna drop, 78 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So, yeah, that's how that 79 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 1: came about. So you started doing let's go back, go 80 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 1: back into the repea for sure, how you bumping the master? 81 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:16,680 Speaker 1: Um Man? That story crazy, bro, Like, um um, you 82 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:18,480 Speaker 1: know I'm in Kansas City. I didn't even know who 83 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 1: p was, you know what I'm saying, Like, Uh, this 84 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 1: dude Romeo right now used to cut my hair, um 85 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:26,160 Speaker 1: even as a kid, you know, and he used to 86 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:29,480 Speaker 1: brain like regional talent to the city and I remember 87 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 1: him telling me, man, I'm gonna bring this dude name 88 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:33,160 Speaker 1: master P I and I was like it was master P. 89 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 1: I don't know. I ain't never heard of that, you 90 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 1: know what I mean? And so long story short, me 91 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 1: and uh partner of mine, Cisco, We was part of 92 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 1: a group you know what I'm saying, called CCG. So 93 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 1: we was local at the time. And I'm like sixteen fifteen, sixteen, 94 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:51,359 Speaker 1: and um, really, to be honest with you, man, I 95 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:53,839 Speaker 1: just started sending tapes out. I started looking at all 96 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 1: the dresses on the back of the tapes. I sent 97 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 1: ship the Ruthless Man. I used to bug this ship 98 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:00,280 Speaker 1: out of Ruthless. It was his chick up there in 99 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:05,920 Speaker 1: name Cassandra where you know she is, James, Yeah, because man, 100 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 1: I got to know that chick. I used to call 101 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 1: so much, you know what I'm saying. A matter of fact, eight, 102 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 1: I sent some ship to you and I think your 103 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 1: attorney back then, Yeah, this is when you dropped the 104 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:20,279 Speaker 1: album where you had on the slacks and uh last 105 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:23,840 Speaker 1: man stand there. So I'm in Kansas City. You know, 106 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 1: I grew up on all these guys, so I'm just 107 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:27,680 Speaker 1: trying to get on. We don't got no industry, ain't 108 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:30,280 Speaker 1: no Internet, ain't no information. You know what I'm saying. 109 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 1: Strange wasn't around back then. Strange wasn't even thought of, 110 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:36,360 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. You're talking about ninety four 111 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 1: ninety five. So ruthless is where I wanted to go. 112 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:41,160 Speaker 1: So I used to call all the time trying to 113 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:44,719 Speaker 1: get in touch with Easy. Uh. Finally Easy got to 114 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 1: tape and she was like, yeah, Easy like y'all tape whatever. Whatever. 115 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:52,600 Speaker 1: He died. I think it was in March something like that. 116 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:56,480 Speaker 1: So then I got back on the hunt and just 117 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 1: bugged the ship out of p BRO. I just was 118 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 1: calling his voicemail, just filling it up. I was on 119 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:03,600 Speaker 1: rap a lot, all them. So he the one that 120 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 1: went't got to tape. He liked it. He was like, man, 121 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 1: you know, I want to funk with y'all. I want 122 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 1: to fly you'all out. So the first record he put 123 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 1: us on was down South Hustlers, which went gold, you 124 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:15,159 Speaker 1: know what I mean, and then ship it was on 125 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 1: from there. Yeah. I just got off house arrest. I 126 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 1: was living with my father at the time because um 127 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:24,720 Speaker 1: I was in UM I had been in juvenile and 128 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 1: you know, juvenile court, at least in Missouri, it worked 129 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:30,279 Speaker 1: kind of like family court because I didn't get uh certified, 130 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 1: They was gonna certify me and give me what they 131 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 1: called juvenile life and didn't keep me till I was 132 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 1: like eighteen. I think it was eighteen or twenty one 133 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 1: that sent me to prison. But I end up looking out. 134 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:43,719 Speaker 1: They took me from my mind maybe live with my dad. 135 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 1: So I had just you know, because my lawyer was like, uh, 136 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 1: you know, he got a father, got a job. You know, 137 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:53,719 Speaker 1: he played that game, and so uh yeah, ship, you 138 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:56,159 Speaker 1: know what I mean. They got lucky. I got super lucky, 139 00:06:57,200 --> 00:06:59,480 Speaker 1: super lucky bro beagon. I knew a lot of people 140 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 1: luck to the thinking about Missouri. But Missouri, yeah, it's 141 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 1: one of the cities in the Midwest that got like 142 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 1: a lot of old l a gags in the city. 143 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 1: They got bloods out that they got crips out there, 144 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 1: and they've been doing it since the eighties. Yeah, I 145 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 1: watched it. I literally watched it come into the city 146 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 1: because you know, I was born in seventy six, so 147 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 1: you figure, you know, eighty six, eight seven, eighty eight, 148 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 1: you know, I'm a kid on my bike. You know 149 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, I'm just a regular kid. I ain't 150 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 1: exposed to nothing, you know what I'm saying. Like I 151 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 1: grew up in the hood, but I came from a 152 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 1: good household. You know what I'm saying. I'm an only child, 153 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 1: so I came from a loving house, like I don't 154 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 1: have you know what I mean. Like, but what happened 155 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 1: is you start seeing, um, the influx of a you know, 156 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 1: a lot of niggas from the West Coast, you know, 157 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 1: coming to the city and that you know what I mean, 158 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 1: They hustling, and so a lot of the niggas from 159 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 1: my city, whoever they was copying from, that's who they 160 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 1: aligned themselves with. It was a lot of sixties and 161 00:07:57,240 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 1: a lot of East Coast that came down there, and uh, 162 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 1: my neighborhood, you know, got colonized. I guess you could 163 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 1: say it became a crib neighborhood. Like we're tech is 164 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 1: from technology from the fifties. A lot of brams came, 165 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, to his section. So all 166 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 1: the niggas that was getting their work from them became bloods, 167 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So that's kind of high. 168 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 1: I watched it, you know what I mean. And so 169 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 1: now the older niggas, that's that's getting money. You know, 170 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 1: I'm having to deal with their little brothers because their 171 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 1: little brothers trying to emulate them, you know what I'm saying. 172 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:32,320 Speaker 1: So now my hood, So what happens is I start 173 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 1: to become um sucked into it, you know what I mean, 174 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:38,960 Speaker 1: just because the environment starts to become hostile. I was 175 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 1: never like active, you know, but because you grow up there, 176 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:44,960 Speaker 1: you get sucked in, you know what I mean. So 177 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 1: I'm with the homies ship. A couple of my homies 178 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 1: might be fighting on crip or whatever, but I'm just 179 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 1: fighting because they're my friends. But it don't look like that, 180 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:55,080 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. When it's like that, guilty, 181 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:01,440 Speaker 1: you know, like you you fighting with them niggers, then 182 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 1: you from they set. You come from a good home. 183 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:09,080 Speaker 1: I did. You didn't have to do that. I didn't, 184 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 1: but didn't you had to go outside that I had 185 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 1: to go outside the environment. Yeah, that's what I want 186 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 1: people to understand. Yeah, you had outside took over. My 187 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 1: daddy can't protect you, you know what I'm saying. So 188 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 1: when I'm going to the park to play basketball, play football, 189 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 1: and just in the environment I got. I gotta you know, 190 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 1: I have to maintain out there. You know. Now my 191 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 1: mother was loving, but you know, my mother used to 192 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:36,800 Speaker 1: tell me, I'm raising no pussies, So you know, I 193 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 1: still had to you know. She she made me line 194 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:42,679 Speaker 1: it up a few times, you know what I'm saying. 195 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 1: So she wasn't having that. But I literally watched our city, 196 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:49,680 Speaker 1: you know, and it got bad probably about the early nineties, 197 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. It really took off down there. Know, yeah, 198 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 1: it was off down there. There was a lot of money. 199 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 1: You know, everybody was getting it back then, you know. 200 00:09:57,800 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 1: You know, shouted to my boy, you know, money Green, 201 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 1: Snug know some cats out there. You know, Rodney money 202 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 1: Green was on the on the red side. He read side, Yeah, Snug, 203 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 1: he was over there with taking them from the cats. Yeah, 204 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 1: that was all. Yeah. They they real dudes, you know 205 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 1: what I'm saying that they're great dudes. And uh Rodney. 206 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 1: Rodney was a hustler. He didn't you know what I'm saying. 207 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 1: He wasn't with that, but he was getting money a 208 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 1: long time. Yeah, Rodney was getting Kansas City, Rodney money 209 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:34,200 Speaker 1: Green Yeah, don't need money yeah Roney Rodney, Yeah yeah, 210 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:38,600 Speaker 1: I just saying Rodney probably about a year ago. Um, 211 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:40,559 Speaker 1: I was looking at a hot matter of fact, because 212 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:43,560 Speaker 1: he was doing he does real estate as well, and 213 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 1: we was both being on the same house. It was 214 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:48,080 Speaker 1: like three hundred something housand. He was trying to get it, 215 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:51,959 Speaker 1: I think, just to do something with it or whatever. Yeah, 216 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 1: we get them from your statement, all this magnificent stuff 217 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 1: that you're doing, but we're staying back. We had to 218 00:10:58,040 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 1: stay in the gutter for it just a little bit longer. 219 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 1: Know what I means. I want to take it up 220 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 1: for show. So you and your crime man, you're sending 221 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 1: you know what, man, that's funny. We'd be used to 222 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:11,959 Speaker 1: send tapes are demos to record company addresses on the 223 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 1: back and ship you know what I mean, trying to 224 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:17,679 Speaker 1: get some money. But so you plugged up with Pete. 225 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:21,679 Speaker 1: Your whole life changed after that? Like what happened next? Like, 226 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 1: um no, not really, not like that. Um well, so 227 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:30,839 Speaker 1: my my situation with Pete was unique, bro, because like 228 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:33,560 Speaker 1: I signed with Pete, we did the Downs House Hustlers. 229 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 1: I was, like I said, I was a part of 230 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 1: a duo. So me and P we we established the 231 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 1: relationship before we actually got to Oakland. I've been talking 232 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:46,880 Speaker 1: to him for months. My partner had never talked to him. 233 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:48,839 Speaker 1: So they was kind of like, you know what I'm saying, 234 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 1: strangers when we met for the first time. Uh, him 235 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:54,440 Speaker 1: and my partner really didn't They didn't like each other, 236 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And so we had a 237 00:11:56,760 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 1: manager at the time who he didn't know Ship, but 238 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 1: he knew more than us. He was a little older 239 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 1: than us, and so my partner kind of, you know, 240 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:09,560 Speaker 1: gravitated towards the manager. I really didn't like him either, 241 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I gravitated towards peace. So 242 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 1: there was this kind of you know what I'm saying, Yeah, 243 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So P he literally came 244 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:22,560 Speaker 1: and got me one day. It was like, Bro checked 245 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:25,200 Speaker 1: us out. I funk with you, but I don't like 246 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 1: the mother niggers, So, uh, you know what I'm saying, 247 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 1: What you wanta do? What you gotta understand. You know, 248 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 1: I come from a game mentality too, So I was like, 249 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 1: with damn big Bro, respectfully, you know, uh, Ship, you 250 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:40,440 Speaker 1: gotta take both of us you know, I came out 251 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:42,280 Speaker 1: here with him, so I'm gonna leave with him, you 252 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 1: know what I mean. And so that's what it was. 253 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 1: You know, I end up going back to Kansas City 254 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 1: with my partner, you know what I'm saying. But me 255 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 1: and Pete always kept a relationship. So what he did 256 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 1: that was solid is I created a label and I 257 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 1: started putting out into Pendent records. What he did he 258 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:06,199 Speaker 1: used his influence to basically, you know I say influence, 259 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:09,080 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, to basically make like the 260 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:12,240 Speaker 1: distributors Southwest City Hall. You know all that ship select 261 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:15,559 Speaker 1: though to pay me upfront for whatever I got pressed up. 262 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:18,720 Speaker 1: So if I got fifty thousand units pressed up, which 263 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 1: I did, they paid me seven dollars up front, you 264 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:26,680 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So I'm like eighteen nineteen, that's 265 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:32,079 Speaker 1: right there, exactly exactly. So I'm getting three four hundred 266 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:34,320 Speaker 1: thousand dollars, you know what I'm saying off for record. 267 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 1: That's why I was putting them out so much, you 268 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:38,199 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And I mean that ship came 269 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:40,480 Speaker 1: back to bite me because nobody explained taxes and ship 270 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:42,959 Speaker 1: to me. But you know what I'm saying, I'm thinking 271 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:46,080 Speaker 1: all that ship mine, you know, but you published at 272 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 1: the time. Yeah, he was up until probably the early 273 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 1: two thousand's, you know what I'm saying. He kind of, 274 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:54,840 Speaker 1: you know, started wanting to go in a different direction 275 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 1: in life, and you know, and then I kept it 276 00:13:57,080 --> 00:13:59,320 Speaker 1: moving as a solo artist, you know. But me and 277 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 1: pe all ways was like brothers, you know what I'm saying. 278 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:05,920 Speaker 1: So so my journey was different, you know what I'm saying. 279 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:08,440 Speaker 1: With No Limit, even though I was always synonymous with 280 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:12,440 Speaker 1: No Limit, but I just didn't. I never technically put 281 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:14,720 Speaker 1: a record. I don't know, but it was a whole 282 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:16,520 Speaker 1: bunch of people. You ain't the only one that didn't 283 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 1: put a bricket off. But I know this, p always 284 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 1: missed what you want to business said. I thought she 285 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 1: was an executive over there. The show exactly met a 286 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 1: lot of other ship you know what I'm saying. Like music, 287 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 1: It was just like he'd be like court Man, go 288 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, You don't need to do 289 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 1: all that, Go and go get your money over there, 290 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It was it just worked 291 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 1: and I was always kind of you know what i mean, 292 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 1: my own boss and and autonomous like that. You know 293 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I kind of moved to the beat 294 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 1: of my own drum even way back then, you know. Now, 295 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 1: don't get me wrong, he always was big bro. I 296 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 1: deferred to him, you know, like a big homie, like 297 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 1: o G like a mogul. But I always had my 298 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 1: own ship, you know what I mean? And I think 299 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 1: that's why our relationship was always what it what it's been. 300 00:14:57,440 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 1: So he didn't know bad dude, who p not at all? 301 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:03,240 Speaker 1: You heard something different. But what a lot of people 302 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 1: say he did, He didn't did she did? He didn't 303 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 1: give me what he without deserved like that. But you 304 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 1: hear that with everybody, don't hear that? You know what? 305 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 1: This is the thing about that bro. I speak on 306 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:16,480 Speaker 1: that a little bit, and I mean, listen, I can't 307 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 1: speak for nobody because everybody had their own experience, but 308 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:23,119 Speaker 1: I kind of know, you know how he got down technically, 309 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 1: if you think about it, what he would do is man, 310 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 1: he would he would give you lumps. Okay, say let's 311 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 1: just be one hunter. A lot of the rappers that 312 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 1: came on No Limit, the brand No Limit was selling 313 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:39,120 Speaker 1: that ship. These people didn't have track records. They weren't 314 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 1: someone wasn't even real artists necessarily, They just nigged in 315 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 1: the hood to wrap. He's like, okay, I know you're 316 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 1: nigging want rap. Okay, come on, because no limit. The 317 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 1: brand is hot right now. We put that tank on anything, 318 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:51,920 Speaker 1: it's gonna sell, you know what I mean. So you 319 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:54,360 Speaker 1: would nigga. You ain't never put a demo together. You're 320 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 1: just wrapping in the hood. So he takes you and say, 321 00:15:57,120 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 1: all right here, i'mna give you five hundred thousand, buy 322 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 1: you a half million dollar house. You know I'm saying, 323 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 1: set you up with a few cars. You okay, you're good. 324 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. You can get out there 325 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 1: and get your show money. Go to charge niggas for 326 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 1: versus all that ship. Right, So he may be spent, 327 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 1: say a meal meal five on you. You know what 328 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 1: I'm saying. Say your album go gold. You do the numbers, 329 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:20,880 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So your album go gold? 330 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:23,800 Speaker 1: What's that? Maybe three point five million or so? It 331 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 1: was generated, But you know how to recoup. You talk 332 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:29,560 Speaker 1: about the recoup ship. So he was nothing. That's what 333 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:33,000 Speaker 1: I'm saying. You have to be you have to know 334 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 1: how to First of all, you're dumb as fuck. If 335 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 1: you get a half a million dollars and go by 336 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 1: half a million dollar house, don't go do that ship 337 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 1: because you're not going to recoup anything. But eight, but 338 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:48,800 Speaker 1: think about no, he gave that to them, Okay, and 339 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 1: they should know. I don't want that ship because you 340 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 1: give me a half a million dollar house. I gotta 341 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 1: pay the mortgage on this motherfucker. I gotta pay the 342 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 1: taxes on the property. Okay to do it, So you 343 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:06,639 Speaker 1: ain't never getting no rule to yet. Yeah, right, it 344 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 1: could go like that, But then but then think about it. 345 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:13,439 Speaker 1: Eight opposed to him giving you know what I'm saying seven, 346 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:16,879 Speaker 1: you know, say one cent, you know, fifty cents? You 347 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 1: see what I'm saying, Because if he paid your your 348 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:21,960 Speaker 1: album do five hundred thousand and he giving you fifty cents, 349 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 1: he was pretty much doing non traditional deals. But but 350 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 1: but no, let's do that. Let's do that. Let's do 351 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:28,919 Speaker 1: the numbers. Though. If he give you fifty cent a record, 352 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:31,159 Speaker 1: and you go go, what is what is what is 353 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:32,679 Speaker 1: he supposed to get you? What is the math on that? 354 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:36,679 Speaker 1: What's at two hundred fifty thousand? That's two hundred fifty thousand. 355 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 1: So if he didn't basically invested a million dollars in you, 356 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:43,640 Speaker 1: he paid you, you see what I'm saying, more than 357 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:45,159 Speaker 1: what you would have got if he said, you know 358 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 1: what I'm gonna do? You like the white Man, do you? 359 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:48,480 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Here you go. You're gonna 360 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:51,359 Speaker 1: get your your YOURR seven points. You know what I'm saying. 361 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 1: And here you go. And then you wait for this 362 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 1: money to come in and wait for us to recouping 363 00:17:55,320 --> 00:18:00,919 Speaker 1: all that ship. So you see it, it's still not 364 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:04,440 Speaker 1: a good deal man, because at the end of the day, Yeah, 365 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 1: you gotta how are you gonna pay for that ship? 366 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:09,439 Speaker 1: You're not gonna be that rapid nigga forever? You're not 367 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:13,959 Speaker 1: getting them shows. You're not. You already seeing you're not talented. 368 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:19,439 Speaker 1: You're not talented. So okay, you take the house. You 369 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:22,960 Speaker 1: take that. So you're going so you gotta remain the hustler, 370 00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:26,439 Speaker 1: right because you got a million dollar you got a 371 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:29,399 Speaker 1: half a million dollar house. You got two cards in 372 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:32,240 Speaker 1: your driveway total than a half a million. Now you 373 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:34,800 Speaker 1: got a million dollar tack. Now you're gonna how am 374 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 1: I supposed to maintain this ship? When I can't get 375 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:40,280 Speaker 1: a fucking show. No, that's what you do. Well, you 376 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:42,640 Speaker 1: hot to get your ass out on tour. You most 377 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:45,600 Speaker 1: of them niggas was not hot, and you know, but 378 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:47,879 Speaker 1: this is no they hot if they got a gold record. 379 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. If you got a gold record, 380 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 1: there's somebody somewhere buying your ship, and it's niggas. It 381 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:55,520 Speaker 1: will give you when we know, we know the game. 382 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:58,600 Speaker 1: A lot of that ship is not selling. A lot 383 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:01,200 Speaker 1: of that ship was being bought by their own companies. 384 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:03,680 Speaker 1: You said, a lot of that ship, like you said, 385 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:07,880 Speaker 1: the name was selling that ship. A lot of those artists, 386 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:10,639 Speaker 1: like I said, I was gonna sign a no limit okay, 387 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:14,600 Speaker 1: l A lot of those artists, like you said, the 388 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:17,600 Speaker 1: name was selling them. And at a time when the 389 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:20,639 Speaker 1: name was done, what had happened to a lot of 390 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:23,600 Speaker 1: artists on the limit for sure? Okay, So now I'm 391 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:27,800 Speaker 1: stuck with a million dollar fucking house paid for it. 392 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:31,240 Speaker 1: You can, but ain't it different? If if it would 393 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 1: be different if m c A signed with no limit, 394 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:36,480 Speaker 1: and just think what he would have did up front 395 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 1: with you because you m c A. But like you said, 396 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:41,880 Speaker 1: in the long run, that house is gonna be sold, 397 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:44,760 Speaker 1: the cars is gonna be sold. But then eight but 398 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 1: though playing Devil's advocate, though bro, if he had did 399 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:53,400 Speaker 1: a traditional deal, left because if you were smart enough, 400 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 1: we wouldn't take a traditional deal. But some artists as 401 00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:59,200 Speaker 1: but some artists as the beginning artists. You gotta take 402 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 1: about it. Like I said, you gotta nigga right off 403 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:04,720 Speaker 1: the street. What kind of leverage do we have? Really? 404 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:09,040 Speaker 1: Nothing exactly, sound like he was unfair. No, it was 405 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:12,199 Speaker 1: ultimately what I'm saying. Ultimately, what I'm saying is no, 406 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:14,800 Speaker 1: I mean, listen, I can't speak for everybody, but pe 407 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:17,879 Speaker 1: is a given dude, like he gave freely, you know 408 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:21,440 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And actually it's a lot of times 409 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 1: where I would tell him, nigga, I wouldn't do that. 410 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I think you're being too nice, 411 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:28,119 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But you know, but you 412 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:31,399 Speaker 1: can't please everybody in this business. And the thing he 413 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:33,480 Speaker 1: was like, he said that when you gotta do that, 414 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:36,119 Speaker 1: ain't really talented that don't know the business? Oh he 415 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:38,359 Speaker 1: know is he got this house and these two cars. 416 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:40,320 Speaker 1: In his mind he thinks he really don't did some 417 00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:43,639 Speaker 1: ship but but that it could have been at the 418 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:48,200 Speaker 1: beginning responsibility people going the hood. Oh you wrapped? Come 419 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:53,359 Speaker 1: on now, somebody in the hood. So dog, you gotta 420 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:56,160 Speaker 1: think just like like with with Puffy, right, just like 421 00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:58,679 Speaker 1: with Diddy and I think rest in Peace to was 422 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:01,480 Speaker 1: a black ribe that just passed away. You know, people 423 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:05,639 Speaker 1: was like, he's I mean, no disrespect, but dude is grown. 424 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 1: So just because he worked for Puffy and was signed 425 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:10,480 Speaker 1: a Puffy twenty five years ago, he's still supposed to 426 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:12,760 Speaker 1: be responsible for him. You know what I'm saying, Like, 427 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 1: this is a grown ass man. You know what I'm saying. 428 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 1: So at some point where it's a kind of building 429 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:19,080 Speaker 1: the internet. Man, don't nothing make sense on the internet. 430 00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:22,640 Speaker 1: But that's what I'm saying. But I'm kind of saying 431 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 1: even to eight point though, you know what I'm saying, 432 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:27,200 Speaker 1: Like if a nigga you you know what I'm saying. 433 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:29,639 Speaker 1: You know, it's like in the hood, if a nigga 434 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:31,840 Speaker 1: throw you a couple, you know what I'm saying, Whatever 435 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:34,359 Speaker 1: whatever and tell you okay, wrong with the ball. You 436 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:36,480 Speaker 1: ain't even gotta pay me nothing back, Like you know 437 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:39,760 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So now you fumble the rock. You know, 438 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:42,399 Speaker 1: when you fall on your ass. Oh so it's his fault, 439 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:47,399 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying that, But that's how like 440 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:50,080 Speaker 1: you said, we're talking about people, man, that don't have 441 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 1: no place in the music business. Sometimes they just don't 442 00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:56,240 Speaker 1: got no places. That's what you're talking about. Them people 443 00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 1: will always be even though they got more than what 444 00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:01,440 Speaker 1: they were supposed to get tech they got a shot, 445 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Because it was some people 446 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:07,359 Speaker 1: that came off with no limits, that had pretty cool careers. 447 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 1: You know a lot of vival artists that came from 448 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:15,000 Speaker 1: John to say that's death from some There was a 449 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:17,160 Speaker 1: lot of them. And I don't say people. I'm gonna 450 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 1: say us on that bro that shouldn't have been in 451 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 1: the music business. But we wentn't on the music part 452 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:23,720 Speaker 1: of it. We was on the other end of it. 453 00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:26,960 Speaker 1: Oh No, I wasn't talking about that. Um, I wasn't 454 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:28,879 Speaker 1: talking about I'm talking about the person that's a rapper. 455 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 1: It wasn't shouldn't have you over there trying to make 456 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 1: rap records, you know what I'm saying. That's the whole 457 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 1: different thing. You know, when you get put somebody in 458 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:39,439 Speaker 1: the rama being an artist that's different executive. You can 459 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:41,320 Speaker 1: show somebody how to be executive. You can get a 460 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:43,520 Speaker 1: homie and tell him how to do this. But when 461 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 1: you take that same homie can turn them into artists. Now, 462 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:49,240 Speaker 1: man your wraps and he messed around to get off 463 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:52,359 Speaker 1: with it. That's a whole different list scenario right there. 464 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:53,960 Speaker 1: They can kind of get, you know what I'm saying 465 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:56,639 Speaker 1: concluded a little bit because they don't understand it. But 466 00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:59,600 Speaker 1: you can't take I wouldn't talking about that things too. 467 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 1: See the thing about me, Bro is like I don't know, Bro, 468 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:05,720 Speaker 1: the way I was raised like accountability. You know what 469 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:07,800 Speaker 1: I'm saying. I don't never make excuses for ship that 470 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:10,280 Speaker 1: that happened good, you know what I'm saying, Like I 471 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 1: if somebody give me an opportunity, you know what I mean, 472 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 1: it's up to me to educate myself and to fill 473 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:18,600 Speaker 1: that opportunity. And if we can talk about opportunities, let's 474 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:21,600 Speaker 1: go into that. So you meet Pete Man. Y'all got 475 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:25,440 Speaker 1: this um chemistreet shown built up man, and I assumed 476 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:27,680 Speaker 1: through your relationship with him, you start making the gang 477 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:30,600 Speaker 1: in connections. What was the first thing that when when 478 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 1: the real estate thing was the first thing you went into. 479 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 1: M M. Yeah, real estate again, going back to that. 480 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:40,520 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, uh man, still having a 481 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:42,440 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, A footing the street, you 482 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:44,920 Speaker 1: know what I mean. I started buying real estate just 483 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:48,200 Speaker 1: because I started seeing a lot of the old heads 484 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:50,400 Speaker 1: in my that was getting money in my city. They 485 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:52,800 Speaker 1: was doing that. They was buying houses and fixing them up. 486 00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 1: So I thought in my mind, like, Okay, if I 487 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 1: buy a house and I fixed it up, you know 488 00:23:57,560 --> 00:23:59,200 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, if I go to jail, then it 489 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 1: could be something, you know, I could leverage to get 490 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 1: out of something, you know what I mean. So that's 491 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:05,720 Speaker 1: why that's I bought my first house when I was nineteen, 492 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:09,560 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? And uh yeah, you know 493 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:13,440 Speaker 1: what I noticed back in the Midwest, it's easier to 494 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:20,160 Speaker 1: get a house dollars. That's what I did my first house. 495 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:23,000 Speaker 1: I paid one thousand for it. I put like another 496 00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:25,720 Speaker 1: fifteen into it. This is what I thought, right because 497 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:27,920 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I'm past that point in my life, 498 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:30,239 Speaker 1: but I was weed. I was moving big weed back 499 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:32,720 Speaker 1: down going to pass so but that's a whole another story. 500 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:36,320 Speaker 1: But so I bought a house I paid twenty one 501 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:39,000 Speaker 1: thou for put another fifteen into it, you know what 502 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:42,160 Speaker 1: I mean. And I was standing outside the house thinking 503 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:44,480 Speaker 1: to myself, like, damn, I'm gonna get my money back, 504 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:47,240 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like, and I'm like, ship, 505 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:49,440 Speaker 1: if I if I because I'm renting it for like 506 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:51,720 Speaker 1: six hundred a month because that's the cost of living there, 507 00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:53,480 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And I'm like, damn, I'm 508 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:56,280 Speaker 1: gonna be all fucking year, you know, years get my money. 509 00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 1: And then it dinned on me like, oh, this ship 510 00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:00,240 Speaker 1: like weed. You don't make a lot of money, y'all 511 00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:02,359 Speaker 1: of it, but its volume, you know, because that's what 512 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 1: I understood at the time. So I was like, shoot, 513 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:06,959 Speaker 1: I need to get tentities, you know. So they end 514 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:09,320 Speaker 1: of like get tentities. Now I got by six seven 515 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 1: thousand coming in a month, you know what I mean. 516 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:14,440 Speaker 1: I knew nothing about equity. I didn't know no type 517 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 1: of language of real estate and no ship. I just 518 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:19,639 Speaker 1: knew by this cost. I didn't know none of that, 519 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:21,920 Speaker 1: right appraisal, what the fund is that, you know what 520 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:25,560 Speaker 1: I mean. So, um, by the time I hit twenty one, 521 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:28,600 Speaker 1: I had like twelve properties, you know what I mean. 522 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:31,240 Speaker 1: And I was just chasing that monthly ring, you know, 523 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:33,200 Speaker 1: he trying to get that ship and trying to hurry 524 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 1: up before this looming jail thing I thought was coming, 525 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:39,520 Speaker 1: you know. And uh I remember my uh my brother 526 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:43,040 Speaker 1: had introduced me to this lady at a UM at 527 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:46,120 Speaker 1: a credit union down there, and she was just impressed 528 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:48,320 Speaker 1: by me. I didn't understand why. You know. She was like, 529 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 1: so you got that many properties freeing clear. I'm like, yeah, 530 00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:52,960 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But when you get money 531 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:54,680 Speaker 1: like that, it's like, I ain't mean. And she was like, 532 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:56,359 Speaker 1: you know how much equity you got? I was like, 533 00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:58,200 Speaker 1: I don't even know what that is, you know what 534 00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:01,399 Speaker 1: I'm saying. And so anyway, she showed me how to 535 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:05,159 Speaker 1: basically leverage, you know what, I had my portfolio, and 536 00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:07,560 Speaker 1: probably in about a couple of months she had got 537 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:09,480 Speaker 1: me like a seven hundred thousand not a line of 538 00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:12,760 Speaker 1: credit over that ship, which means I had access to 539 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:14,680 Speaker 1: seven hundred thousand or do whatever I wanted to do. 540 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:18,240 Speaker 1: I'm like, you know what I'm saying. And then I'm 541 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:20,680 Speaker 1: getting money from the records. I'm getting money, you know 542 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:22,800 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So I was I was moving back then, 543 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:25,600 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And and that's what opened 544 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:28,960 Speaker 1: my my mind to start thinking outside the box on 545 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 1: a lot of ship, you know what I'm saying. And 546 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:32,760 Speaker 1: then I started doing it in Atlanta. I had a 547 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 1: business in Atlanta too, So yeah, I started really um 548 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:40,520 Speaker 1: spread my wings, you know what I'm saying. Entrepreneurial, you know. Wise, 549 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:44,159 Speaker 1: So you kind of started gravitating more towards that in 550 00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:47,360 Speaker 1: the music as when I was started doing the music. Yeah, 551 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:49,240 Speaker 1: I was still doing the music that I was doing 552 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:51,680 Speaker 1: everything because you gotta think, that's what Pe model for me, 553 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:55,000 Speaker 1: you know, to have these multiple revenue streams. You know, 554 00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:57,560 Speaker 1: That's the thing I learned from Pete was work ethic, 555 00:26:57,760 --> 00:26:59,520 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Like he never just had 556 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:01,679 Speaker 1: one thing. Think about it. When no limit was at 557 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:05,639 Speaker 1: his peak, he had toys, he had choose, he had speakers, 558 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:08,480 Speaker 1: he had all kinds of ship, you know what I'm saying. 559 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:12,680 Speaker 1: So that's that's what was modeled for me. So that's 560 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:15,280 Speaker 1: what I you know, that's what I emulated in my 561 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:18,360 Speaker 1: own way. You know. So I had the records, I had, uh, 562 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:21,960 Speaker 1: I had a business in Atlanta, had real estate in Atlanta. 563 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:24,920 Speaker 1: I had the properties and again I'm like one, you 564 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Yeah, so you just kept the party. 565 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:29,720 Speaker 1: You just kept the party going with the real estate 566 00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:33,680 Speaker 1: then and then eventually started getting to succeed. This is 567 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:39,720 Speaker 1: my whole thing with real estate, right, it's a slow ground. 568 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:42,159 Speaker 1: Like you said, at first, you get a house, you 569 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:46,200 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, charging um thousand dollars rent, your 570 00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:48,720 Speaker 1: mortgage might be nine fifty a month or whatever like 571 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:53,520 Speaker 1: that here. Yeah, but no not you can't get no 572 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:56,840 Speaker 1: show like like like this is not a cash flow 573 00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:59,000 Speaker 1: type state because it's so expensive. So that's what I 574 00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:00,720 Speaker 1: was saying. In California, it is hard. So I'm just 575 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:03,359 Speaker 1: telling the listeners out there, everybody and not gonna have 576 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:07,000 Speaker 1: the same success the Midwest. Different ship. Yeah, yeah, you 577 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:09,840 Speaker 1: gotta do it in the South and Middlewest because you 578 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:11,440 Speaker 1: can go you can go to like I'll take you 579 00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:13,680 Speaker 1: some ship. Now. You can get a house for five 580 00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:15,680 Speaker 1: thousand dollars. Yeah, you had to put a lot of 581 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:17,320 Speaker 1: ship into it. It makes it be a land with 582 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:20,480 Speaker 1: a foundation on it. Because just the thing still when 583 00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:22,760 Speaker 1: I so when I did that, I moved out here 584 00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:24,680 Speaker 1: when I was twenty three, you know what I'm saying, 585 00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:27,159 Speaker 1: And I moved to Brentwood, you know what I mean, 586 00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:30,000 Speaker 1: right down Barrington and Sunset, and it was a culture 587 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:31,960 Speaker 1: shock for me, you know what I mean, because I'm 588 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:34,480 Speaker 1: like the rent over there. I was paying like four 589 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:37,080 Speaker 1: grand a month for a two bed room, you know 590 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:39,400 Speaker 1: what i mean. I'm like the fun Like I just 591 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:42,080 Speaker 1: came from a townhouse, you know what I'm saying, with 592 00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:45,040 Speaker 1: three floors and six bedrooms and ship and I was 593 00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:49,680 Speaker 1: paying fifteen hundred dollars in Kansas Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know. 594 00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:51,800 Speaker 1: But it was a trip because when I went to 595 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:54,880 Speaker 1: go buy my first house, I was looking at Brentwood 596 00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:57,120 Speaker 1: and I ain't gonna lie. I couldn't afford it, you 597 00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:58,680 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. That ship in Brentwood was like 598 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:01,280 Speaker 1: Fox five million for hair down. So I end up 599 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:03,760 Speaker 1: moving to a Sino and I tripped on that because 600 00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:05,560 Speaker 1: the first house I bought in a SnO was like 601 00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:08,760 Speaker 1: a million, you know what I mean. And I was like, fuck, 602 00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:12,920 Speaker 1: like ship, twenty of my properties in Kansas City is 603 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:16,080 Speaker 1: this one house, you know what I mean. So it's 604 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:18,920 Speaker 1: like the cost of living I had to adjust to, 605 00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying coming out here. And then 606 00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:22,920 Speaker 1: that's when I've seen it. I can't do that real 607 00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:25,360 Speaker 1: estate ship out here. Out here, this is a flipping city, 608 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:27,720 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. You just by low, get 609 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:30,280 Speaker 1: a good deal and then flip that ship. Yeah, that's 610 00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:32,160 Speaker 1: what I was going back to. I said, Man, it's 611 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:33,960 Speaker 1: a little bit easier, you know what I'm saying. The 612 00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:38,280 Speaker 1: Mother's states. This ship is so expensive, super expensive out here, bro, 613 00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:40,320 Speaker 1: you know. And then that's when I started getting into 614 00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:42,880 Speaker 1: producing movies and ship like that. Then I started, you 615 00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:44,720 Speaker 1: know what I mean, using my money to do that 616 00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:47,560 Speaker 1: over show. So you were so you jumped allay in 617 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:50,200 Speaker 1: the movie game with some of the d s. The 618 00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:52,800 Speaker 1: first movie I did, I spent like three hundred thousand 619 00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:54,760 Speaker 1: on my own money. It was a movie I did 620 00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:57,440 Speaker 1: with me and Cat Williams and Lawrence Hill and Jacobs 621 00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:00,960 Speaker 1: called Young American Gangsters, and I, uh, that was just 622 00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:03,200 Speaker 1: some ship I just tried. I moved out here and 623 00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 1: I started like auditioning for ship, you know what I mean. 624 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:08,200 Speaker 1: I started doing a bunch of independent movies and just 625 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:10,120 Speaker 1: kind of learning what they do and how they do 626 00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:12,840 Speaker 1: what they do and asking questions and ship. And then 627 00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:15,080 Speaker 1: once I started learning more, I was like, Ship, I 628 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:16,720 Speaker 1: can do this ship I got the money to do 629 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:21,280 Speaker 1: this ship, you just put up your own three stacks. Man. Listen, dog, 630 00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:23,720 Speaker 1: I'm young, you know what I'm saying. Dumb. I didn't 631 00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:25,800 Speaker 1: even have an exit strategy, you know what I'm saying. 632 00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:27,840 Speaker 1: I just was like, funking, I'm gonna do it. How 633 00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:32,320 Speaker 1: did that work out? It worked out barely. So I 634 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:34,880 Speaker 1: end up my co producer Ken that came with me. 635 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:38,720 Speaker 1: He took me to Cans to France, to the peace 636 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:41,840 Speaker 1: to the Cans Film Festival. So I flew over there 637 00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:45,760 Speaker 1: to get distribution for my movie. And I got distribution 638 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:48,520 Speaker 1: with a company literally around the corner from my house. 639 00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:54,760 Speaker 1: And that's crazy, some niggers, it's around the corner from you. Yeah. 640 00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:57,400 Speaker 1: I got sucked on that movie too, because you know, 641 00:30:57,720 --> 00:30:59,680 Speaker 1: I was you know, I thought like a drug dealer, 642 00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:01,360 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So they gave me a 643 00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:04,040 Speaker 1: little bit over what I spent on it, and I'm thinking, Okay, 644 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:05,800 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go do another one. You know what I'm saying. 645 00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:08,840 Speaker 1: Many people made three five me not about that movie, 646 00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:11,280 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But that's the thing, man, 647 00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:13,920 Speaker 1: I learned. That's why you got to educate yourself to 648 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:16,480 Speaker 1: what you're doing. And I was chasing money because I 649 00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:19,000 Speaker 1: had a you know, drug dealer mentality. But that's what 650 00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:21,600 Speaker 1: I learned, like, you gotta do ship that you love 651 00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:24,320 Speaker 1: and ship that you that you you know, move with purpose, 652 00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:27,080 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, because anytime you chase some money, 653 00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:29,400 Speaker 1: you're gonna fail at the ship. You know, chasing money 654 00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:31,520 Speaker 1: only applies in the street because that's all it is. 655 00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:34,520 Speaker 1: But when you start wanting to build things and get 656 00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:36,800 Speaker 1: into things, you gotta really love what you're doing because 657 00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:39,120 Speaker 1: you're gonna put in the time to master it and 658 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:41,920 Speaker 1: it'll be successful. So it was kind of a failure, 659 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:43,480 Speaker 1: but it was but at the same time, it was 660 00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:46,200 Speaker 1: a lesson, you know. So you got your money, you 661 00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:47,840 Speaker 1: got your money back. They could have been been a 662 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:49,840 Speaker 1: lot of worse. You could have not got your breath back. 663 00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:52,160 Speaker 1: I wouldn't have been tripping. That's that's that. But that's 664 00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:54,040 Speaker 1: that admitting I was getting it like that. I wasn't 665 00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:56,800 Speaker 1: even tripping. That three hundred wasn't nothing at the time, 666 00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:58,840 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So I was just like 667 00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:03,040 Speaker 1: because I was literally in my living room watching myself, like, 668 00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:05,240 Speaker 1: you know, I'm feeling myself like, get me a cat 669 00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:07,280 Speaker 1: on it. Then it donned on me, like, boy, how 670 00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:08,680 Speaker 1: are you gonna get your money out of this? I 671 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:11,600 Speaker 1: had no idea, you know what I'm saying. None. And 672 00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:14,000 Speaker 1: you know that's why you gotta study what it is 673 00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:17,080 Speaker 1: you're trying to do yourself, so you know you made 674 00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:21,440 Speaker 1: the mistakes that you know, what was the first move 675 00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:23,560 Speaker 1: you make out made outside of the real estate that 676 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:26,680 Speaker 1: was like pretty much that that home run. He was like, Okay, 677 00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:30,720 Speaker 1: I get it. Now this is with cragging. Man, that's 678 00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:33,880 Speaker 1: a good question. Still, Um, I don't know that I 679 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:37,320 Speaker 1: necessarily had one. To be very honest, I think I 680 00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:40,560 Speaker 1: just start knowing how to move different and more efficient 681 00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:43,520 Speaker 1: with what I was doing, you know what I'm saying, Like, um, 682 00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:46,760 Speaker 1: I mean, I made money, money come and go. But 683 00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 1: I think, yeah, it's just learning how to I always say, 684 00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:51,800 Speaker 1: you live life long enough here to teach you how 685 00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:53,440 Speaker 1: to live, you know what I'm saying. So I think 686 00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:56,240 Speaker 1: it's just learning and paying attention to the lessons and 687 00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:58,080 Speaker 1: the failures that I had, you know what I'm saying, 688 00:32:58,080 --> 00:32:59,920 Speaker 1: and doing better, just doing you know what I mean. 689 00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:02,800 Speaker 1: You know, me and James were talking about that earlier, 690 00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:06,880 Speaker 1: and I was telling him. I said, man, um, whenever 691 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:08,720 Speaker 1: I don't hear the I would hear the lick on 692 00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:11,240 Speaker 1: somebody and get that money. It seemed like that money 693 00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:13,800 Speaker 1: would just go like fast, like it was almost like 694 00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:16,880 Speaker 1: like disappear in your pockets. Kind yeah, for sure, because 695 00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:18,680 Speaker 1: it don't have no value. But if I went to 696 00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:21,000 Speaker 1: work for my uncle or something that he built, I 697 00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:23,120 Speaker 1: was back then if I want to work for him 698 00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:24,800 Speaker 1: in the summer for a week to get them hundred 699 00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:27,800 Speaker 1: dollars for them school clothes or whatever, it seemed like 700 00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:29,960 Speaker 1: I held only that money, I wouldn't. I might not 701 00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:32,200 Speaker 1: buy them Leavis. I man, I can't get in a 702 00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:33,800 Speaker 1: T shirt. I gotta you know, we gotta go to 703 00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:35,840 Speaker 1: k Mark. Yeah, you appreciate you know what I'm saying. 704 00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:38,080 Speaker 1: You appreciate it a little bit more. And I think 705 00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:39,680 Speaker 1: it's the same thing like you said you had the 706 00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:42,960 Speaker 1: drug deal mentality. You just you suggest hitting them. But 707 00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:44,960 Speaker 1: you know what, I worked hard for that ship. I 708 00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:47,320 Speaker 1: don't know who said that the hustling was easy, because 709 00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:49,960 Speaker 1: it wasn't, and not to not how I was doing it. 710 00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:53,000 Speaker 1: You know, it was a lot of logistics that ship, 711 00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:54,960 Speaker 1: and headache and stress that went with it, you know 712 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:58,160 Speaker 1: what I mean. So it wasn't easy by any you know. 713 00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:01,360 Speaker 1: And then again I had other businesses that I was running, 714 00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:04,800 Speaker 1: even with the real estates I created, um just about default. 715 00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:08,399 Speaker 1: I had created a property management company because I had 716 00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:11,040 Speaker 1: all those properties, and because I had moved to l 717 00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:14,239 Speaker 1: A and you know, I would meet different investors that 718 00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:16,839 Speaker 1: also had properties in my city and they would ask 719 00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:19,120 Speaker 1: me like, man, you gotta air condition? Due, Man, you 720 00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:22,439 Speaker 1: got a plumber, you know. So it dawned on me like, oh, Ship, 721 00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:25,040 Speaker 1: I'm from there, so I have a network there. So 722 00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:27,480 Speaker 1: you know, I got a couple of chicks, and I 723 00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:31,280 Speaker 1: created a property management company, which you know, that company 724 00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:33,560 Speaker 1: even now to this day, you know, we managed like 725 00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:36,480 Speaker 1: fifteen million dollars worth the assets. And that was just 726 00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:39,680 Speaker 1: me on some hustle. Ship. I just seen an opportunity like, oh, Ship, 727 00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:41,960 Speaker 1: you ain't got air condition, dude, Oh you don't either. 728 00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:45,120 Speaker 1: How many properties you got? You got forty? You don't 729 00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:46,960 Speaker 1: worry about it. I got air condition, do Yeah. We're 730 00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:49,120 Speaker 1: gonna outlined it first, like yeah, man, I got a 731 00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:51,400 Speaker 1: whole company. We got people that have handled that for you. 732 00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:54,160 Speaker 1: So at some point I had to structure correctly but 733 00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:57,080 Speaker 1: you know it's just you know, like Pepe would always say, Man, 734 00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:59,880 Speaker 1: to start a good business, you know, you find a problem, 735 00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:02,360 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, and then you present the solution. 736 00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:05,279 Speaker 1: So you know that was just by chance, you know. 737 00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:08,759 Speaker 1: So that's another thing that I had got into. But 738 00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:11,879 Speaker 1: man is just paying attention to to the to the opportunity, 739 00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:14,320 Speaker 1: man and not being scared to try some ship, you 740 00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:16,480 Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like I tried. I ain't never 741 00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:18,279 Speaker 1: been scared to put up my own money or try 742 00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:20,320 Speaker 1: something or fail, you know what I mean. That's just 743 00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:23,680 Speaker 1: part of the process. You gotta be willing to take 744 00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:26,000 Speaker 1: You gotta be willing to take risk, and you would 745 00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:28,800 Speaker 1: do man pretty much. They come from the same environment. 746 00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:30,960 Speaker 1: There's a lot of us, you know. So it could 747 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:32,960 Speaker 1: have went either way. Yeah for sure. You know it 748 00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:35,040 Speaker 1: could have went either way because Kansas City is a 749 00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:38,400 Speaker 1: mother do the city got some going on out there? Yeah, Bro, 750 00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:40,800 Speaker 1: I wasn't that good. I mean, I don't take the 751 00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:42,480 Speaker 1: credit like that, you know what I'm saying. I had 752 00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:44,280 Speaker 1: a lot of people praying for me to be honest 753 00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:46,440 Speaker 1: with you. You know, I just I wasn't that you 754 00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:49,040 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like just super smart and just 755 00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:51,120 Speaker 1: super you know what I mean. I mean, I did 756 00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:54,080 Speaker 1: everything I could to try to make it. But you know, 757 00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:55,880 Speaker 1: there's a lot of people praying for me, you know 758 00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:58,520 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, honestly. And then too, you know, my 759 00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:01,200 Speaker 1: old lady man, you know that I think having a 760 00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:03,520 Speaker 1: good woman in your in your corner, you know what 761 00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:06,480 Speaker 1: I'm saying, and keeps you grounded and kind of balances 762 00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:08,400 Speaker 1: you off status. That had a lot to do with 763 00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:10,840 Speaker 1: it too, you know what I mean, because she you know, 764 00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:13,399 Speaker 1: you know, I had kids early, you know, like I said, 765 00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:16,480 Speaker 1: my daughter, I had my daughter my six team, you 766 00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:18,400 Speaker 1: know what I mean. So I kind of had to 767 00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:21,320 Speaker 1: step up to the plate early in life. You know. 768 00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:23,560 Speaker 1: I went to jail at fifteen. Then I got a 769 00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:26,520 Speaker 1: child at six team. So while I'm doing all of that, 770 00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:29,399 Speaker 1: even with pe in real estate, I got a whole 771 00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:32,000 Speaker 1: fucking family, you know what I'm saying. So you had 772 00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:34,719 Speaker 1: to make some Yeah, and behind closed doors, I'm working 773 00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:36,400 Speaker 1: on being a man, you know what I'm saying. I 774 00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:39,239 Speaker 1: may have seen poise than all of that ship, but 775 00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:41,359 Speaker 1: behind closed doors, and I'm trying to figure it out 776 00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:44,080 Speaker 1: because I didn't grow up with my father the state 777 00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:46,560 Speaker 1: made me go live with my father. I had had 778 00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:49,160 Speaker 1: a relationship with him really up to that point. So 779 00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:51,719 Speaker 1: we like two niggas just living in the house. You 780 00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:53,799 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, When when did you figure out 781 00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:56,080 Speaker 1: you was a man? Because I tell everybody I didn't 782 00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:58,560 Speaker 1: figure out I was a man, Jill. I was in 783 00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:01,719 Speaker 1: my fifties. For the chef. I'm gonna tell you, I 784 00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:03,800 Speaker 1: know exactly, James, that's a good question. I tell you 785 00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:07,040 Speaker 1: exactly when I knew I had moved to l A. 786 00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:10,120 Speaker 1: I had went back to Kansas City one time. I 787 00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:12,320 Speaker 1: was with my brother, who does really estate. He the 788 00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:15,440 Speaker 1: one that actually kind of taught me and my job. 789 00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:17,400 Speaker 1: My only child is my half brother. I didn't meet 790 00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:21,080 Speaker 1: him till I was like fifteen sixteen. So now he 791 00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:23,920 Speaker 1: is square dude, you know what I mean. I was 792 00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:26,680 Speaker 1: on his porch and one of his properties and somebody 793 00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:29,880 Speaker 1: broke into it. He was passing his cards out to 794 00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:33,560 Speaker 1: the neighbors, and so, uh, you square dude. He was 795 00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:35,960 Speaker 1: just like, Hey, if y'all see somebody mess with the property, 796 00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:39,080 Speaker 1: called the police and call me the dude. So as 797 00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:42,560 Speaker 1: a dude next door or some young niggas, this nigga. 798 00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:46,080 Speaker 1: I'm on the porch literally like, man, I'm thinking to myself, Man, 799 00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:49,320 Speaker 1: my brother needs to hurry up. I gotta go. Nigga 800 00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:51,880 Speaker 1: next door literally looks at me and says, Nigga, what 801 00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:56,440 Speaker 1: the funk you looking at? I looked over my shoulder, 802 00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:59,520 Speaker 1: like who you're talking to? He was like, Niggy, y'all 803 00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:01,680 Speaker 1: think somebody broken your ship and they ain't nobody. He 804 00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:06,640 Speaker 1: just started tripping, So you know, I got my thing 805 00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:08,520 Speaker 1: on me, you know what I mean. So I hop 806 00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:10,080 Speaker 1: off the porch and I gonna walk up on him. 807 00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:11,640 Speaker 1: I said, little nigga, who the fuck you talking to? 808 00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:14,439 Speaker 1: You know? And he was like, no, I'm just saying 809 00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:20,319 Speaker 1: y'all woo woo woo. So at that moment, I said, listen, bro, 810 00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:23,680 Speaker 1: you know, I said, man, my brother owns a h 811 00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:27,680 Speaker 1: insurance company, like he's not tripping like that. And I said, 812 00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:30,280 Speaker 1: and do you hear your mama right here? Your family 813 00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:32,560 Speaker 1: right here, like you don't know what I'm on. And 814 00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:36,120 Speaker 1: I'm saying that to say I started, I start kind 815 00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:40,120 Speaker 1: of chastising him respectfully, and I didn't respond how I 816 00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:43,640 Speaker 1: would have responded years earlier, because I didn't care that 817 00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:45,759 Speaker 1: if he thought I was a bit ass nigga. Whole 818 00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:48,480 Speaker 1: ass nigga. I didn't even care about that because so 819 00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:52,000 Speaker 1: after I told him, I raised up my shirt and said, Bro, 820 00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:54,000 Speaker 1: you're not even doing it right, like you're trying to 821 00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:56,040 Speaker 1: be tough and shit, like you don't even know who 822 00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:58,080 Speaker 1: you're talking to. I raised up my shirt and showed him, 823 00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:00,600 Speaker 1: you know, like nigga, you you out here just being tough, 824 00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:02,839 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? And I told him, I said, dog, 825 00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:05,640 Speaker 1: you know the cemetery full of tough niggas. You know 826 00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:08,000 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. The penitentiary full of tough niggas too. 827 00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:09,719 Speaker 1: They had to show them niggas what time it was, 828 00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:12,800 Speaker 1: so it's a lose lose situation. But he acted like 829 00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:16,400 Speaker 1: he had never been talked to like that before. He apologized, 830 00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:19,520 Speaker 1: gave me, you know, Dapa sit man my bad behind me. Boy, 831 00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:21,840 Speaker 1: you know how he is out here. So when I 832 00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:25,120 Speaker 1: walked away from that situation, I said, damn, I said, 833 00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:28,120 Speaker 1: I finally grew up. I finally grew up, you know 834 00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:30,600 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Because I didn't care rather he thought 835 00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:33,239 Speaker 1: I was a whole ass nigga. I didn't care whether 836 00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:35,319 Speaker 1: he thought I told him that I said, dog, if 837 00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:36,920 Speaker 1: you this is what I don't care if you say 838 00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:39,560 Speaker 1: I'm a bit or whatever you're gonna say about me. Dog, 839 00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:41,240 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I don't have no problem 840 00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:43,960 Speaker 1: with you. This is just a misunderstanding, you know. And 841 00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:48,040 Speaker 1: I say that I was about five six, you know 842 00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:50,160 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So I think that's when I hit 843 00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:53,000 Speaker 1: adulthood right then, even though I had an old lady, 844 00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:57,480 Speaker 1: kids and all that ship. You know, my mentality, you know, 845 00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:01,320 Speaker 1: ship sometimes even now, you know what I mean, you 846 00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:04,560 Speaker 1: may kind of digressive, bit, you know what I'm saying 847 00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:07,359 Speaker 1: with certain situations. I think I think we all don't 848 00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:09,480 Speaker 1: have them nigger moments as adults, that we don't have 849 00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:12,800 Speaker 1: them miltdowns and ship. The motherfucker press your button and 850 00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:16,480 Speaker 1: you start acting out when the motherfuckering ship. You know, 851 00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:20,320 Speaker 1: So would you say man for because it seemed like 852 00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:22,400 Speaker 1: you had a plan, right And it don't go like 853 00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:25,200 Speaker 1: that for everybody, because I think for every former D 854 00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:29,040 Speaker 1: boy man, they very seldom get to actually become who 855 00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:31,920 Speaker 1: they are supposed to be, because I know most of 856 00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:34,520 Speaker 1: them is like every drug dealer I ever knew was 857 00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:36,600 Speaker 1: actually some of the best business people I don't ever 858 00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:38,680 Speaker 1: seen you know what I mean. And I ain't gonna 859 00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:41,319 Speaker 1: put none of my homies, but it's an executive out 860 00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:43,160 Speaker 1: that not it's killing it. And I know for Shore, 861 00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:45,640 Speaker 1: he was you know what I'm saying, doing his things. 862 00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:47,480 Speaker 1: Some of them make the best businessman, but a lot 863 00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:51,120 Speaker 1: of them don't get that chance, the opportunity. Like you said, man, 864 00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:54,000 Speaker 1: you know a lot of people. Man. I think when 865 00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:55,960 Speaker 1: people go when they're about to get cracked, I think 866 00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:58,760 Speaker 1: they know. My brother in law was about to get cracked. 867 00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:01,000 Speaker 1: He knew, we thought he is losing his mind. You know. 868 00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:02,920 Speaker 1: I think everybody knows, so you might not have been 869 00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:06,960 Speaker 1: going crazy, you know what I think. Man, It was 870 00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:09,400 Speaker 1: somebody telling on me at the point, because when I 871 00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:13,160 Speaker 1: would come back from Kansas City, UM, or really from 872 00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:15,239 Speaker 1: anywhere in the Midwest. When I would come through l 873 00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:18,759 Speaker 1: a x Dog, the people would always jam me up, 874 00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:20,359 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. They called me with money 875 00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:22,919 Speaker 1: a few times, you know, and I would be like, damn, 876 00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:24,439 Speaker 1: I didn't know what I'm coming through. That I start 877 00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:26,799 Speaker 1: trying different airlines and ship and I'm not talking I'm 878 00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:29,720 Speaker 1: talking about when I'm leaving l a X Plain clothes 879 00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:32,360 Speaker 1: motherfuckers start coming up to me like you know how 880 00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:34,040 Speaker 1: much you know, how much money do you have on you? 881 00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:36,080 Speaker 1: You know what I mean. I'm like, when that ship start, 882 00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:38,840 Speaker 1: you know, so you you see little signs like that, 883 00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:40,480 Speaker 1: and I don't want to make it seem like I 884 00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:42,720 Speaker 1: was on something. You know, I wasn't, you know, Freeway 885 00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:44,640 Speaker 1: Ricky Ross and no ship like that, you know what 886 00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:47,000 Speaker 1: I mean. I was a weed, dude. I didn't funk 887 00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:50,000 Speaker 1: with none of that other ship, right. I learned that 888 00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:53,440 Speaker 1: early on because you know, because of them crack laws 889 00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:55,399 Speaker 1: and ship you know what I'm saying, And I start 890 00:41:55,440 --> 00:42:00,279 Speaker 1: seeing niggas you know, getting some ship or ounce, you 891 00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:06,239 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. That's what made a lot of 892 00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:09,200 Speaker 1: niggers though, go to the weed game stead of the 893 00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:12,520 Speaker 1: d game, you mean, because man, the motherfucking laws back 894 00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:16,160 Speaker 1: then wasn't no Still still motherfucker's was getting cracked for 895 00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:21,640 Speaker 1: that weed though. Yeah, I was operating in federal guidelines 896 00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:23,640 Speaker 1: with the weed because I'm you know, I'm getting for 897 00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:26,239 Speaker 1: five hundred pounds, you know what I'm saying. But even 898 00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:29,120 Speaker 1: still it was still different. It's Reggie ship, this their 899 00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:34,160 Speaker 1: headaches ship right right right? That stressed stress. Yeah, you 900 00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:38,399 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. But but it was going back then, 901 00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:41,360 Speaker 1: back in them days, and that's all you had in 902 00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:44,839 Speaker 1: the mid West, man. No, yeah, that's all they had. Yeah, 903 00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:47,120 Speaker 1: you know this is before me, this is you know me. 904 00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:49,759 Speaker 1: It wasn't even the thing y'all had indol and yeah 905 00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:52,840 Speaker 1: we we had a little time. We have orange. But 906 00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:55,479 Speaker 1: you go back on tour back east, nigga, you knop 907 00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:59,520 Speaker 1: off that motherfucking tour bus sticks and stones may break 908 00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:15,000 Speaker 1: your old ship. Fine cracker going off like God? Really, 909 00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:19,560 Speaker 1: but going back back then, yeah, nigga pounded that ship 910 00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:23,000 Speaker 1: was going for thousand dollars. I mean because what it 911 00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:25,040 Speaker 1: was back then. I mean, it's old ship. But like 912 00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:28,759 Speaker 1: I paid two d pass so and I come back 913 00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:31,640 Speaker 1: home six fifty you know what I'm saying, six hundred 914 00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:38,240 Speaker 1: just cash out. Yeah, and I ran, I ran very quietly. 915 00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:40,960 Speaker 1: I was never you know, a super per seed, like 916 00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:44,160 Speaker 1: I said, Man, it's just God because I was a rapper. 917 00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:47,399 Speaker 1: So people knew me as that, you know what I'm saying. 918 00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:50,000 Speaker 1: So you really couldn't tell the difference. Only people I 919 00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:52,239 Speaker 1: dealt with. And I'll be honest with you, and you 920 00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:54,399 Speaker 1: know I don't want to like give novice and nothing 921 00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:56,919 Speaker 1: like that. But I didn't deal with everybody. 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Richual was off from all against the 947 00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:15,760 Speaker 1: chronicle listeners Timper sent off during your first three months, 948 00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:20,000 Speaker 1: visit ritual dot com forward slash GC want to want 949 00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:24,600 Speaker 1: to start your rich water day. I didn't deal with niggas. 950 00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:27,120 Speaker 1: I felt like I didn't have nothing to lose, you 951 00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:29,879 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And nigga don't do anything for money. 952 00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:31,920 Speaker 1: I didn't deal with them. I deal with niggas that 953 00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:34,680 Speaker 1: had businesses, niggas that worked every day but still did 954 00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:36,840 Speaker 1: their things and they was trying to just you know, 955 00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:41,239 Speaker 1: get by. I didn't deal with like trapping, trapping tight niggas. Yeah, 956 00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:43,520 Speaker 1: weed is a whole different clients, yea man, because I 957 00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:46,640 Speaker 1: sold both, and I'll tell you I prefer the weed 958 00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:53,399 Speaker 1: customer crack customerstomer. Yeah, you know chilling how that I'm 959 00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:59,359 Speaker 1: saying stick, you know, because the weed because I lived 960 00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:01,319 Speaker 1: next door for a whole bunch of people that went 961 00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:04,160 Speaker 1: to Long Beach State, And so I be able to 962 00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:06,480 Speaker 1: go get an ounce of red hair sets for thirty 963 00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:10,960 Speaker 1: forty bucks man from Ontario, I will drive out the Ontario. 964 00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:13,560 Speaker 1: Don't get me two or three ounces of red hair 965 00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:16,160 Speaker 1: sets and just come on and bag up, yeah, and 966 00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:18,719 Speaker 1: be so without dude, and just made my money that way. 967 00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:20,960 Speaker 1: And it was just a way easier time. When I 968 00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:23,520 Speaker 1: got into the crack, ship Dog, it feels like the 969 00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:26,280 Speaker 1: devil said your chest man. It's like it's a crazy 970 00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:29,799 Speaker 1: ass motherfucking It's just real. It's a funked up five, 971 00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:31,920 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Crack touched my family like 972 00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:35,279 Speaker 1: I'm sure it did everybody and everybody's what I'm saying. 973 00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:37,880 Speaker 1: And I just didn't see. I knew niggas that was 974 00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:39,640 Speaker 1: making money in it, you know what I'm saying. And 975 00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:41,880 Speaker 1: you know I do niggas doing you know, phone a 976 00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:46,640 Speaker 1: halves nine eighteens, everybody like they was. The man was 977 00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:48,560 Speaker 1: doing like you said, niggas was doing four and a 978 00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:51,359 Speaker 1: half and nine ounces, and ship I just not doing 979 00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:53,319 Speaker 1: no more, you know what. You know what I'm saying, 980 00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:54,640 Speaker 1: And that should go a long way in the hood 981 00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:56,359 Speaker 1: where you could buy some dating's. You know what I'm saying, 982 00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:58,920 Speaker 1: get your ship together, you look, you know, getting chains 983 00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:02,200 Speaker 1: some clothes. But you know, I've seen too many niggas, man, 984 00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:04,799 Speaker 1: you know, get that time and I was like, it's 985 00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:07,120 Speaker 1: not worth an ounces a thousand dollars back then eight 986 00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:09,960 Speaker 1: hundred dollars. And I'm like, bro, you know, ten years 987 00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:12,920 Speaker 1: for a sixteen ro you know huh you know so 988 00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:16,239 Speaker 1: um yeah, the weed thing, you know, that was what 989 00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:18,480 Speaker 1: that was. And and I got a homeboy right now, 990 00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:22,279 Speaker 1: man rat you know Chevelle Foy should he they gave 991 00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:26,080 Speaker 1: him thirty years. I actually have a documentary that I'm 992 00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:30,239 Speaker 1: producing called Ghostop based on that because you know, like 993 00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:32,759 Speaker 1: he got thirty years. I went to high school with him. 994 00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:34,880 Speaker 1: Good dude, you know what I'm saying, Telling nobody or 995 00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:38,440 Speaker 1: nothing they game thirty years for they didn't catch him 996 00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:40,040 Speaker 1: with a grain of salt. And you know that's how 997 00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:42,160 Speaker 1: they get us with the conspiracy loss. You know what 998 00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:44,640 Speaker 1: I'm saying. You know, if enohing niggas say you did it, 999 00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:46,680 Speaker 1: then you didn't. They don't got to catch you with nothing. 1000 00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:51,640 Speaker 1: If if if me decided to conspire on you, say, man, 1001 00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:53,680 Speaker 1: I saw a kid of doping it back his car. 1002 00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:56,040 Speaker 1: They didn't come and pick you up. Man, thirty years 1003 00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:57,799 Speaker 1: of this man's life though, you know what I'm saying, 1004 00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:00,520 Speaker 1: they never and I read through the case and they 1005 00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:04,200 Speaker 1: basically convicted him on you know, they say ship, like, oh, well, 1006 00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:07,600 Speaker 1: through our surveillance and our wire taps, we estimate he 1007 00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:10,760 Speaker 1: was moving this estimated You charge the nigger with estimation, 1008 00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:12,560 Speaker 1: like you're supposed to put that ship on the table, 1009 00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:15,480 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So, um, you know that, 1010 00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:18,239 Speaker 1: you know, the rules change when you start getting in 1011 00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:20,320 Speaker 1: the heron and all. You know, and even now with 1012 00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:24,560 Speaker 1: math and all that ship, you know, the game done. Really, 1013 00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:26,840 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying with technology and all that, 1014 00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:29,759 Speaker 1: because even I'm younger than y'all, but you know, so 1015 00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:31,839 Speaker 1: I'm in the nineties when I jumped off the porch, 1016 00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:34,120 Speaker 1: but the eighties y'all could really get it. You know 1017 00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:37,239 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, y'all could really get it. But man, 1018 00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:42,239 Speaker 1: it's too much technology. Boy, we just talked about the 1019 00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:48,440 Speaker 1: one in jail now, macminister. Yea, yeah, yeah, yeah. Technology 1020 00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:51,520 Speaker 1: will catch your ass up like like a motherfucker dude. 1021 00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:54,920 Speaker 1: Because the thing was, I got a homeboy, that worked 1022 00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:57,920 Speaker 1: on I ain't gonna say what beer he worked for, 1023 00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:01,160 Speaker 1: but he worked homicide. And he told me, man, they 1024 00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:05,040 Speaker 1: cracked the case. He said, dude, here's something crazy. We 1025 00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:09,000 Speaker 1: cracked the case because dude, I guess a piece of 1026 00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:11,120 Speaker 1: damn from a piece of his skin fell off, bro 1027 00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:13,800 Speaker 1: for sure, and they was able to take that. Look like, 1028 00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:16,080 Speaker 1: how the hell do you find a piece of skin 1029 00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:19,959 Speaker 1: and the shag carpet, bro, and just in there looking 1030 00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:22,240 Speaker 1: at and that. He said he had the perfect crime. 1031 00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:27,680 Speaker 1: But and find pizzas And that's just scary though, just 1032 00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:32,760 Speaker 1: the coldest one County jail. You know, you gotta get swabbed, definitely, 1033 00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:38,320 Speaker 1: that's start opinion and painion. And they started taking motherfucker's 1034 00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:43,520 Speaker 1: out of their sail. Oh uh we investigating this and 1035 00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:48,680 Speaker 1: from years ago, yeah, oh, because you gotta get swabbed 1036 00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:50,920 Speaker 1: in county jail. Now now you can be out of 1037 00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:53,239 Speaker 1: there raping the motherfucker. Why don't they put that ship through. 1038 00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:56,160 Speaker 1: What you get, what you get a felony, so you 1039 00:49:56,239 --> 00:50:01,399 Speaker 1: become a felon here. So now they've breaking motherfucker's down 1040 00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:05,719 Speaker 1: with it. I've been I'm talking about five ships rape 1041 00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:10,240 Speaker 1: just DNA match. That's the coldest ship on the planet 1042 00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:16,080 Speaker 1: because they have swabbed the nigger like it ain't ship. Yeah, 1043 00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:19,080 Speaker 1: I'd have been a prisoner to my own technology though, 1044 00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:21,840 Speaker 1: And thank god, by man, I remember what it was 1045 00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:23,640 Speaker 1: probably a couple of years ago, you know, I had 1046 00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:26,000 Speaker 1: one of the moments of uh, you know what I'm saying, 1047 00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:30,280 Speaker 1: you know, and I wanted to it was something happening, 1048 00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:32,440 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, And I was I was 1049 00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:34,600 Speaker 1: about to get on some bullshit. But then you get 1050 00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:36,239 Speaker 1: to think, and I was like, funk, I got all 1051 00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:38,879 Speaker 1: these rain cameras around my house and I couldn't even 1052 00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:40,560 Speaker 1: think of how to delete the ship. You know what 1053 00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:43,080 Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like, Oh, you can't go to my house 1054 00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:45,560 Speaker 1: and be like nigga, you left at twelve am. You 1055 00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:47,680 Speaker 1: know what I mean. You get cut your house. You 1056 00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:50,680 Speaker 1: don't come and tell you the biggest thing, the biggest 1057 00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:53,239 Speaker 1: thing to get motherfucker's cut up. Now, this ship right here, 1058 00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:58,720 Speaker 1: right next to their phone, right make phone, dog, because 1059 00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:01,200 Speaker 1: this ship right here, dude, I don't care what kind 1060 00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:04,320 Speaker 1: of alibiut you get. Who you thinking motherfucker's think is 1061 00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:08,160 Speaker 1: they turned his motherfucker off. It could plank to you 1062 00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:11,399 Speaker 1: right right now. One thing. No, no, no, I bet 1063 00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:14,360 Speaker 1: they're different on that one. Turn that motherfucker off. It 1064 00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:19,480 Speaker 1: ain't gonna pin. They can't tell where you I don't know, James, 1065 00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:21,719 Speaker 1: because now they got the ship where the camera like 1066 00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:24,960 Speaker 1: right now, this motherfuck probably taking pictures of me right now. 1067 00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:26,600 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like they got it where 1068 00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:32,480 Speaker 1: turn their mother upside down there clothed. They can't be 1069 00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:35,960 Speaker 1: where you at, but its mother motherfucker. You gotta do 1070 00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:39,200 Speaker 1: his thing. Your phone on, baby, hit my phone callers 1071 00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:41,800 Speaker 1: number a certain amount of time and just let it 1072 00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:49,920 Speaker 1: just ship there. Yea, like the truth. I didn't know 1073 00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:54,880 Speaker 1: what you're doing to record what's what's on the this 1074 00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:57,320 Speaker 1: time from this time? But this is my thing, Like 1075 00:51:57,400 --> 00:51:59,640 Speaker 1: what I tell young guys, man, you know what saying, 1076 00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:02,080 Speaker 1: specially those from my city who familiar with you know 1077 00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:05,480 Speaker 1: the run I had back then, and you know, listen, 1078 00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:08,160 Speaker 1: everybody have a good run. You got an expiration date. 1079 00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:10,120 Speaker 1: It just is what it is. If I still have 1080 00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:12,320 Speaker 1: been doing that, I'm sure at some point I'd have 1081 00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:15,920 Speaker 1: an issue, you know, at some point, you know, I say, man, 1082 00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:18,320 Speaker 1: you you know you use that ship, you use what 1083 00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:20,560 Speaker 1: you learned in that, you use your resource. You know 1084 00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:22,520 Speaker 1: what I mean. You so with a plan and with 1085 00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:26,320 Speaker 1: a purpose. You know. Um, I mean every good business 1086 00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:28,439 Speaker 1: was founded on a good crime. You know what I'm saying. 1087 00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:30,400 Speaker 1: When you think the health the United States? You know 1088 00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:33,600 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So even with prohibition and all that ship, 1089 00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:36,080 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, it's all founded on some bullshit. 1090 00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:39,719 Speaker 1: So I always tell guys, man, you gotta he sees 1091 00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:42,200 Speaker 1: your opportunity. I told a little homie of mine, you 1092 00:52:42,239 --> 00:52:43,480 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. He gonna see this and know 1093 00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:45,719 Speaker 1: who I'm talking about. But here a little part of 1094 00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:48,160 Speaker 1: mine that was He wind up being on the FBI's 1095 00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:50,120 Speaker 1: most wanting He was on the run for five years. 1096 00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:52,600 Speaker 1: I literally told this nigga. I said, bro, you are 1097 00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:54,880 Speaker 1: having a wonderful run. I told him this when he 1098 00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:56,960 Speaker 1: was getting it, getting it, getting it right. I mean 1099 00:52:57,000 --> 00:52:59,200 Speaker 1: this nigga would I said, you having a run way 1100 00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:01,439 Speaker 1: past what I was doing because his nigga ball rolls 1101 00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:09,000 Speaker 1: Royces and all kind of ship. So no, and he 1102 00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:12,080 Speaker 1: was telling me not because it man, it's weed, And said, 1103 00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:14,440 Speaker 1: I said, nigger, I said, the amount of me that 1104 00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:17,800 Speaker 1: you're doing, they get no, you you they get it. 1105 00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:20,080 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, and they end up, you 1106 00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:21,960 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, catching up with him and he 1107 00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:23,719 Speaker 1: told me. He was like, man, you're right, bro. He 1108 00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:25,279 Speaker 1: was like he was right because I was telling him. 1109 00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:27,800 Speaker 1: I was like, bro, you know, man, you have so 1110 00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:30,399 Speaker 1: much money. Now you become a prisoner of your money. 1111 00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:32,080 Speaker 1: You can't even do ship with it, you know what 1112 00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:35,400 Speaker 1: I mean. You gotta rolls Royce and your sister's name, like, 1113 00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:38,400 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like what you doing? You 1114 00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:40,680 Speaker 1: know what I mean? So you know that's why I 1115 00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:43,440 Speaker 1: try to tell these young guys, man, educate yourself, you know, 1116 00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:45,920 Speaker 1: find something that you love. You know, you got guys 1117 00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:49,120 Speaker 1: that you know, you like cars, Okay, start flipping some cars, 1118 00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:51,320 Speaker 1: you know, get you a little lot, you know what 1119 00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:53,160 Speaker 1: I mean, whatever it is you like doing, you know 1120 00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:55,360 Speaker 1: what I mean? Like you know ship? Hey, you know 1121 00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:58,480 Speaker 1: you you was an athlete. You enjoyed football, So you're coaching, 1122 00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:01,640 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So you know it's always 1123 00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:03,680 Speaker 1: something that you love, you know, and and you're going 1124 00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:05,640 Speaker 1: to succeed at it. So that's what I like. Because 1125 00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:07,600 Speaker 1: me and Pete we travel. We talked to kids a lot, 1126 00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:10,080 Speaker 1: and that's always my message to them. Even some of 1127 00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:12,000 Speaker 1: the ones is older. You know they've got their mind 1128 00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:14,120 Speaker 1: made up. You know that that's what they're gonna do. 1129 00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:16,239 Speaker 1: I'm like, dog, you know what I'm saying, you could 1130 00:54:16,239 --> 00:54:18,600 Speaker 1: do you You probably have skills that will take you 1131 00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:21,319 Speaker 1: so much further. Yeah, man, So I know you gotta 1132 00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:25,520 Speaker 1: your next step in your evolution. You don't step in 1133 00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:28,759 Speaker 1: the media and you gotta podcast now. You gotta show 1134 00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:31,800 Speaker 1: eats you doing now? Yeah? Yeah, for sure holding court podcast. 1135 00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:33,880 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I did that with me 1136 00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:36,439 Speaker 1: and my co producer Ken. You know what I'm saying, 1137 00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:40,399 Speaker 1: Producer Ken. Um. You know, We've been producing a lot 1138 00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:43,319 Speaker 1: of content. You know, I got a TV show as well, 1139 00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:46,800 Speaker 1: called twelve that I produced, Um, that I created with 1140 00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:51,000 Speaker 1: me and act actress Jasmine Lewis. You know what I'm saying. Uh, 1141 00:54:51,360 --> 00:54:54,320 Speaker 1: we got a sticky fingers attached to it, you know 1142 00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:56,600 Speaker 1: what I mean. We got Master p in it, We 1143 00:54:56,680 --> 00:54:59,520 Speaker 1: got Dion Cole in it. So really I kind of 1144 00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:03,440 Speaker 1: been focusing on just being a media company in general, 1145 00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:06,600 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So the podcast is just 1146 00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:08,920 Speaker 1: the arm of that, you know what I mean? Um? 1147 00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:11,320 Speaker 1: And you know, like I tell guys, man, I'm not 1148 00:55:11,640 --> 00:55:14,560 Speaker 1: formally educated. I graduated high school, you know what I'm saying. 1149 00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:17,400 Speaker 1: So everything that I've learned up to this point has 1150 00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:20,000 Speaker 1: been just simply trying, you know what I mean, and 1151 00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:23,560 Speaker 1: felling and and you know, just learning from the missteps, 1152 00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:27,680 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Yeah, even with with movie production, 1153 00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:30,080 Speaker 1: with with music, with real estate. I didn't go to 1154 00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:31,800 Speaker 1: school for none of that, ship though. It's just a 1155 00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:35,040 Speaker 1: lot of common sense and that tenacity and that focus 1156 00:55:35,160 --> 00:55:38,840 Speaker 1: from you know, hustling. But so yeah, I created the 1157 00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:42,080 Speaker 1: Holding Court podcast man, and uh, you know, I wanted 1158 00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:44,400 Speaker 1: it to be a place where, you know, kind of 1159 00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:46,480 Speaker 1: like drink Champs, where you come and celebrate the o 1160 00:55:46,640 --> 00:55:48,719 Speaker 1: g s. You know what I'm saying. Like a lot 1161 00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:51,520 Speaker 1: of these young niggas, they you know, they throw around 1162 00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:54,319 Speaker 1: the turn boss, everybody a boss boss boss. I don't 1163 00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:56,360 Speaker 1: think they really have a reference point at what that is, 1164 00:55:56,560 --> 00:55:58,160 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Just because you've got some money, 1165 00:55:58,520 --> 00:56:00,640 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, and what you know that 1166 00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:04,120 Speaker 1: you know, I appreciate the motherfucker's who did it with 1167 00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:06,239 Speaker 1: no reference point, you know what I'm saying. When you 1168 00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:09,759 Speaker 1: look at you, you know, like Luther Campbell's and uh, 1169 00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:13,920 Speaker 1: Tony Draper's and and Jay Frances. You know, there was 1170 00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:16,000 Speaker 1: no reference point at what they did, you know what 1171 00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:18,200 Speaker 1: I mean? Back then, niggas just want to record deal 1172 00:56:18,239 --> 00:56:20,279 Speaker 1: when nobody thinking, like, you know what, I can own 1173 00:56:20,360 --> 00:56:26,200 Speaker 1: some ship in control and they that't That's what I'm saying. 1174 00:56:26,280 --> 00:56:29,279 Speaker 1: So I created the Holding Court Podcast to break on 1175 00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:31,800 Speaker 1: you know people, not just you know them, but just 1176 00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:35,920 Speaker 1: anybody that's proficient and and you know they're laying and 1177 00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:37,800 Speaker 1: what they're doing, and to celebrate them, you know what 1178 00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:40,160 Speaker 1: I mean, and document their journey because man, you know, 1179 00:56:40,239 --> 00:56:42,080 Speaker 1: at this point in my life, bro, I'm all about 1180 00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:44,960 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, inspiring people, you know what 1181 00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:47,480 Speaker 1: I mean, Like even with healthy living, like I look 1182 00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:49,759 Speaker 1: like this, I work out as a lifestyle, but I 1183 00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:53,399 Speaker 1: also try to you know, motivate us as as black people, 1184 00:56:53,480 --> 00:56:55,480 Speaker 1: as Niggers in the hood that you know, to be 1185 00:56:55,600 --> 00:56:58,160 Speaker 1: health conscious, you know what I'm saying. You know, it's 1186 00:56:58,200 --> 00:57:00,319 Speaker 1: cool to look like this, but more importantly, you want 1187 00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:02,800 Speaker 1: to be healthy on the inside because you got you 1188 00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:05,520 Speaker 1: gotta protein or something protein. Yeah yeah. I got my 1189 00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:08,520 Speaker 1: own supplement line called True Muscle Sports, and that was 1190 00:57:08,600 --> 00:57:10,960 Speaker 1: something that Pete you know, we travel a lot, you 1191 00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:13,040 Speaker 1: know what I mean. And Pete, you know, we would 1192 00:57:13,040 --> 00:57:15,080 Speaker 1: go places and people would always ask me like what 1193 00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:16,960 Speaker 1: do I would I take. I would run down the 1194 00:57:17,040 --> 00:57:19,640 Speaker 1: laundry list of ship that I take, and he was like, 1195 00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:21,560 Speaker 1: may need to be telling these people you take something 1196 00:57:21,600 --> 00:57:24,040 Speaker 1: your own. And then I was like, damn, I never 1197 00:57:24,080 --> 00:57:26,000 Speaker 1: thought about it. He always think about how to hustle 1198 00:57:26,040 --> 00:57:32,040 Speaker 1: some Yeah, business man, it's the motherfucker's who has the 1199 00:57:32,120 --> 00:57:35,480 Speaker 1: mentality like why give him the money when you can 1200 00:57:35,560 --> 00:57:38,760 Speaker 1: do it yourself? Why promote his ship when you should 1201 00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:42,720 Speaker 1: be promoting your own ship. Yeah, it's the same. I mean, 1202 00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:46,560 Speaker 1: it's the same ship they did if they can go 1203 00:57:46,640 --> 00:57:48,560 Speaker 1: out and make some protein part and a lot of 1204 00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:51,080 Speaker 1: people do that. That's all I did. And he helped 1205 00:57:51,120 --> 00:57:54,560 Speaker 1: me with it. He literally found the manufacturing ship. He said, Court, 1206 00:57:54,640 --> 00:57:56,680 Speaker 1: let's do it. So it's the same thing that we're 1207 00:57:56,760 --> 00:57:58,880 Speaker 1: doing with his You know, he has his products and 1208 00:57:58,960 --> 00:58:01,800 Speaker 1: all of that, with the grocery store stuff. And I'm 1209 00:58:01,840 --> 00:58:04,919 Speaker 1: gonna tell you I saw some master Pete rice. Yeah, 1210 00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:09,000 Speaker 1: he got rice, cereal, pancakes, all this ship. You know 1211 00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:11,600 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So that's the hustling mock man. This 1212 00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:14,400 Speaker 1: nigga boy. He sell Ice toy Eskimo twice. I'm trying 1213 00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:17,600 Speaker 1: to tell you. Yeah. So so what I told him, 1214 00:58:17,640 --> 00:58:19,200 Speaker 1: I said, Pete, what we need to do is we 1215 00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:21,480 Speaker 1: need to create something healthy, you know what I mean. 1216 00:58:21,880 --> 00:58:23,920 Speaker 1: And let me run that arm of it. Let me 1217 00:58:23,960 --> 00:58:26,240 Speaker 1: be the ambassador for that arm, you know, and especially 1218 00:58:26,280 --> 00:58:29,360 Speaker 1: because his narrative is, you know, black business, black owned. 1219 00:58:29,480 --> 00:58:31,200 Speaker 1: You know, you want to make a way for your people, 1220 00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:33,120 Speaker 1: for your partners, you know what I'm saying. So it's 1221 00:58:33,160 --> 00:58:35,200 Speaker 1: something we're doing together. So we have a healthy snack 1222 00:58:35,560 --> 00:58:38,440 Speaker 1: that we've developed that it'll be out this summer. So 1223 00:58:38,760 --> 00:58:41,520 Speaker 1: that and ship, like I said the Holding Court podcast, 1224 00:58:41,640 --> 00:58:43,720 Speaker 1: I had ship Pete and came through and done it. 1225 00:58:43,920 --> 00:58:51,080 Speaker 1: Silky Shocker, Chico Brown, Um felly male h Ship bone 1226 00:58:51,160 --> 00:58:55,840 Speaker 1: thugs well flesh and bone, busybone Um trying to get 1227 00:58:55,880 --> 00:58:59,640 Speaker 1: eight excuse me, trying to get eight on that motherfucker 1228 00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:04,040 Speaker 1: trying to get games. You know, the sticky fingers man, 1229 00:59:04,200 --> 00:59:08,200 Speaker 1: Jasmine Lewis, um J Prince came through. I know you 1230 00:59:08,280 --> 00:59:12,240 Speaker 1: got many of your big fancy place over there. Professional 1231 00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:16,040 Speaker 1: and everything I was doing and everything I did it 1232 00:59:16,080 --> 00:59:18,280 Speaker 1: big because you know that's what I'm saying, bro, I 1233 00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:22,640 Speaker 1: come from that understanding of no limits. So we always 1234 00:59:22,760 --> 00:59:25,360 Speaker 1: made ship look big. You always gotta make that ship 1235 00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:27,000 Speaker 1: look big when you do it, you know what I mean. 1236 00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:29,440 Speaker 1: So that's why I had my set built. You know, 1237 00:59:29,600 --> 00:59:32,000 Speaker 1: we got the three cameras, I got the sound ruined 1238 00:59:32,040 --> 00:59:34,520 Speaker 1: the whole nine, you know what I mean. So you know, 1239 00:59:34,680 --> 00:59:36,400 Speaker 1: but you know I'm working with you still. You know 1240 00:59:36,520 --> 00:59:38,360 Speaker 1: we're gonna figure some sh it out all right, for 1241 00:59:38,440 --> 00:59:42,240 Speaker 1: shore man, for show man. Man. There you have it, man, 1242 00:59:43,760 --> 00:59:45,960 Speaker 1: And that's you know what, Man, if you got your 1243 00:59:45,960 --> 00:59:48,400 Speaker 1: ship together, you can pretty much accomplish anything in life 1244 00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:51,439 Speaker 1: and ain't no excute if you got your head on right. Yeah, 1245 00:59:51,920 --> 00:59:55,080 Speaker 1: this man when came from Kansas City, Missouri, selling weed 1246 00:59:55,200 --> 00:59:59,240 Speaker 1: though and doing this thing, and manipulated this opportunity, you 1247 00:59:59,280 --> 01:00:01,800 Speaker 1: know what I mean. I made a lot of mistakes, though, James. 1248 01:00:01,840 --> 01:00:03,840 Speaker 1: So I mean still I want to you know, I 1249 01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:05,960 Speaker 1: made a lot of mistakes. That's part of the process, 1250 01:00:06,080 --> 01:00:08,160 Speaker 1: you know. You have to be willing to fall on 1251 01:00:08,240 --> 01:00:11,000 Speaker 1: your face, you know. So I just didn't get everything right, 1252 01:00:11,160 --> 01:00:13,440 Speaker 1: you know, And that's why I tell youngsters a lot 1253 01:00:13,520 --> 01:00:15,440 Speaker 1: of the times we had we as O. G. S. 1254 01:00:15,520 --> 01:00:17,880 Speaker 1: We have the information, not because we just did everything right. 1255 01:00:17,960 --> 01:00:21,600 Speaker 1: Sometimes go we fucked up a lot me so, but 1256 01:00:21,720 --> 01:00:24,000 Speaker 1: before you do all that, though, I just want to 1257 01:00:24,120 --> 01:00:25,960 Speaker 1: let me, let me have a moment to give you 1258 01:00:26,120 --> 01:00:28,160 Speaker 1: your flowers though, and you as well. You know what 1259 01:00:28,200 --> 01:00:31,160 Speaker 1: I'm saying, because I got inspired to do my podcast 1260 01:00:31,280 --> 01:00:33,360 Speaker 1: because of y'all, you know what I'm saying, and watching 1261 01:00:33,440 --> 01:00:38,640 Speaker 1: that man and el yeah, and watching James for real, 1262 01:00:38,760 --> 01:00:41,840 Speaker 1: real talk. This ain't no Hollywood ship you do. You 1263 01:00:41,920 --> 01:00:44,040 Speaker 1: know your evolution, you know what I'm saying. From the 1264 01:00:44,120 --> 01:00:46,640 Speaker 1: first interview that you did, and I was like, damn, 1265 01:00:47,320 --> 01:00:49,520 Speaker 1: because it was like you didn't want to do the cameras. 1266 01:00:49,560 --> 01:00:51,200 Speaker 1: It was just like you was just like, man, listen, 1267 01:00:51,280 --> 01:00:53,160 Speaker 1: y'all paying me to be here. Fuck it? What you want? 1268 01:00:53,280 --> 01:00:55,040 Speaker 1: What you want to know, I'm gonna tell you. But 1269 01:00:55,120 --> 01:00:57,320 Speaker 1: then I watched you embraced that space, you know what 1270 01:00:57,400 --> 01:00:59,840 Speaker 1: I'm saying, and come into your own and you just 1271 01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:02,160 Speaker 1: covered what you had to offer to the world, you 1272 01:01:02,200 --> 01:01:05,840 Speaker 1: know what saying, with your testimony and your growth. So man, 1273 01:01:05,960 --> 01:01:08,560 Speaker 1: salute to you. Thank you. You know what I mean. 1274 01:01:09,760 --> 01:01:12,320 Speaker 1: Come on, bro, I grew up on you Monday. You 1275 01:01:12,400 --> 01:01:14,560 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, I feel like this is an 1276 01:01:14,600 --> 01:01:16,560 Speaker 1: older brother right here. You know what I mean, all 1277 01:01:16,600 --> 01:01:21,080 Speaker 1: the way from Nigga. The Blue Tape, Um, I bullshit 1278 01:01:21,200 --> 01:01:25,120 Speaker 1: you not. We made it was a clean tape. Yeah, 1279 01:01:25,160 --> 01:01:27,040 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. We had two version. Yeah, 1280 01:01:27,280 --> 01:01:30,480 Speaker 1: that was a super inspirational song, you know, back then. 1281 01:01:30,560 --> 01:01:32,600 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying For me that that was 1282 01:01:32,960 --> 01:01:35,160 Speaker 1: the first rap song that I heard that got me 1283 01:01:35,240 --> 01:01:38,200 Speaker 1: into music. Was Iced Tea Squeeze the trigger. But when 1284 01:01:38,200 --> 01:01:39,919 Speaker 1: I got that Blue tape, you know what I'm saying, 1285 01:01:39,920 --> 01:01:43,320 Speaker 1: that we made it, it was like it encapsulated just 1286 01:01:43,520 --> 01:01:47,920 Speaker 1: that that that dream exactly with a dream, because we 1287 01:01:48,040 --> 01:01:51,280 Speaker 1: all had one as being young kids. We all had 1288 01:01:51,320 --> 01:01:55,240 Speaker 1: a dream of being something that we became at that moment, 1289 01:01:55,360 --> 01:01:57,280 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So I used to always 1290 01:01:57,320 --> 01:02:00,840 Speaker 1: write raps about that ship, you know, being stuck in poverty, 1291 01:02:00,920 --> 01:02:03,960 Speaker 1: being stuck in the gang ship, and wondering what it 1292 01:02:03,960 --> 01:02:06,240 Speaker 1: would be like if a nigger had a different path. 1293 01:02:06,440 --> 01:02:09,000 Speaker 1: You get me, so all you always you had to 1294 01:02:09,040 --> 01:02:11,920 Speaker 1: write those perspectives for because I felt like it was 1295 01:02:11,960 --> 01:02:15,640 Speaker 1: always somebody like myself out there getting me, even though 1296 01:02:15,760 --> 01:02:18,920 Speaker 1: nig It was banging and doing all that ship we 1297 01:02:19,080 --> 01:02:22,720 Speaker 1: all started from, you know, like nephew out there, we 1298 01:02:22,840 --> 01:02:26,320 Speaker 1: all started as an innocent young kid who had dreams 1299 01:02:26,440 --> 01:02:29,840 Speaker 1: of I don't be a police officer, fireman, I won't 1300 01:02:29,880 --> 01:02:33,600 Speaker 1: be a motherfucking football player or fucking whatever, and your 1301 01:02:33,960 --> 01:02:37,240 Speaker 1: your dream got crushed by growing up in the motherfucking 1302 01:02:37,320 --> 01:02:41,120 Speaker 1: hood man, straight up. That's all we made it. Bro 1303 01:02:41,360 --> 01:02:44,600 Speaker 1: That that inspired me. I don't know why. It always 1304 01:02:44,640 --> 01:02:46,760 Speaker 1: stuck with me, you know what I'm saying, And over 1305 01:02:46,840 --> 01:02:49,400 Speaker 1: the years I would I would kind of go back 1306 01:02:49,440 --> 01:02:50,840 Speaker 1: to it, you know what I'm saying, to kind of 1307 01:02:50,880 --> 01:02:54,160 Speaker 1: refocus my focus with different levels of my life. You 1308 01:02:54,200 --> 01:02:56,000 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying exactly, you know what I mean. 1309 01:02:58,320 --> 01:03:01,200 Speaker 1: Looking from it's good to see you here. You know, healthy, 1310 01:03:01,520 --> 01:03:04,040 Speaker 1: You ain't all funked up, you know exactly, still got 1311 01:03:04,120 --> 01:03:06,240 Speaker 1: your facilities, you still look like you Oh you just 1312 01:03:06,320 --> 01:03:11,040 Speaker 1: had a birthday and still my nigga. I love what 1313 01:03:11,160 --> 01:03:13,120 Speaker 1: you built with this whole thing, you know, and how 1314 01:03:13,200 --> 01:03:15,560 Speaker 1: you spearheading it, you know what I mean. And I 1315 01:03:15,600 --> 01:03:17,720 Speaker 1: appreciate you to my brother, so you know, I want 1316 01:03:17,760 --> 01:03:23,280 Speaker 1: to give y'all y'all exactly appreciate you brow which show 1317 01:03:23,360 --> 01:03:25,200 Speaker 1: you know what I got these kids with your gram? 1318 01:03:25,280 --> 01:03:29,000 Speaker 1: What's your Instagram? Exactly? My Instagram is I am Big Court. 1319 01:03:29,120 --> 01:03:30,440 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying that they could follow the 1320 01:03:30,480 --> 01:03:32,920 Speaker 1: Holding Court podcast on i G as well. You know 1321 01:03:33,080 --> 01:03:36,160 Speaker 1: in Facebook. I think it's official Big Quarter, Big Court 1322 01:03:36,200 --> 01:03:38,840 Speaker 1: Officials some ship like that. But so man, we we 1323 01:03:38,920 --> 01:03:41,000 Speaker 1: could have a link in the description. Man, y'all make 1324 01:03:41,000 --> 01:03:44,479 Speaker 1: sure y'all check the homie out. And there's another one down. 1325 01:03:44,640 --> 01:03:45,720 Speaker 1: We out of here s