WEBVTT - Scary Movie (2000) 0:00:00.960 --> 0:00:04.600 On the Bechdelcast, the questions asked if movies have women 0:00:04.680 --> 0:00:07.960 and them, are all their discussions just boyfriends and husbands, 0:00:08.000 --> 0:00:13.680 or do they have individualism? The patriarchy? Zefphnbast start changing 0:00:13.960 --> 0:00:15.960 with the Bechdel Cast. 0:00:16.120 --> 0:00:18.560 Hello, and welcome to the Bechdel Cast, the show where 0:00:18.600 --> 0:00:22.560 we examine movies through an intersectional feminist lens, using the 0:00:22.560 --> 0:00:26.520 Bechdel test simply as a jumping off point. Caitlin popping 0:00:26.560 --> 0:00:29.200 in here to say that this week we are unlocking 0:00:29.360 --> 0:00:34.680 a Patreon aka Matreon episode on Scary Movie, the first 0:00:34.720 --> 0:00:37.560 one from the year two thousand, since the new one 0:00:37.800 --> 0:00:41.600 is coming out very soon. We released this on the 0:00:41.720 --> 0:00:45.159 Matreon around this time last year as part of a 0:00:45.280 --> 0:00:49.960 theme called spoof Tember, if I'm remembering correctly, in which 0:00:50.000 --> 0:00:55.320 we covered Scary Movie and Young Frankenstein. So here is 0:00:55.440 --> 0:01:02.560 that unlocked episode on Scary Movie. Enjoy Del Cast, Jamie, 0:01:03.000 --> 0:01:06.640 do you like Scary Movie? 0:01:07.480 --> 0:01:07.680 Was? 0:01:09.640 --> 0:01:10.000 Okay? 0:01:10.080 --> 0:01:13.160 That part was funny. That do you remember the do 0:01:13.200 --> 0:01:14.200 you know what that's referencing? 0:01:14.520 --> 0:01:17.720 It's a Budweiser commercial, right, yeah, okay, yeah there. I 0:01:17.800 --> 0:01:22.199 had to check a bunch of references in this, although 0:01:22.280 --> 0:01:26.280 some of them it's like James vander Beacon a window. Yeah, 0:01:26.280 --> 0:01:28.520 I know what that means. Mm hmm, yeah, I know 0:01:28.560 --> 0:01:31.720 what that means. Unfortunately, there were some things I feel like, 0:01:31.720 --> 0:01:34.520 as we go through this, maybe we can help each 0:01:34.520 --> 0:01:37.320 other figure out. Because there are most of the references 0:01:37.360 --> 0:01:39.319 I got, there were a few that I was like, well, 0:01:40.120 --> 0:01:42.680 I'm sure that people knew what this was at the time. 0:01:43.959 --> 0:01:49.920 I yeah, I was a sentient teen Yeah. 0:01:50.040 --> 0:01:52.160 Year this came out, you were the target audience. 0:01:52.360 --> 0:01:58.560 Yeah, I really was. Unfortunately, so we're covering scary movie. Uh, Matrons, 0:01:58.640 --> 0:02:02.960 this was your number one by a landslide, number one. 0:02:03.360 --> 0:02:08.120 Absolutely weirdos No. I feel like I was talking with 0:02:08.160 --> 0:02:10.080 Gret about it this morning. I think we talked about 0:02:10.120 --> 0:02:12.880 it too, where it's like you guys wanted us to 0:02:12.960 --> 0:02:16.000 have the exact conversation we're about to have, which is, 0:02:16.040 --> 0:02:19.480 what the fuck you got? Why did we have to 0:02:19.520 --> 0:02:20.839 watch this? What if? 0:02:21.440 --> 0:02:24.600 Twist? We loved it, We love scary movie. 0:02:24.880 --> 0:02:27.959 Actually it is a feminist mustapiece. I thought it was 0:02:28.040 --> 0:02:30.040 so fa I was looking. I was trying to figure 0:02:30.080 --> 0:02:32.359 out just like how the cast of this movie felt 0:02:32.480 --> 0:02:36.119 about having worked on it, particularly Regina Hall, because you're 0:02:36.160 --> 0:02:40.640 like the get her out of here. They're like, we 0:02:40.680 --> 0:02:43.360 need to airlift Regina Hall out of this horrible movie. 0:02:43.880 --> 0:02:45.440 But that this was like sort of a big break 0:02:45.520 --> 0:02:46.960 roll for her, and so she did one of those 0:02:47.000 --> 0:02:49.480 I forget what magazine it is, but it's like the 0:02:49.600 --> 0:02:53.840 career retrospective video. Yeah, and scary movie is the first 0:02:53.880 --> 0:02:59.560 thing she talks about, and she's very polite about it. 0:03:00.200 --> 0:03:03.480 She was like, yeah, that like my she mentions, because 0:03:03.520 --> 0:03:08.000 we'll talk about, like, I think, the various failures of 0:03:08.040 --> 0:03:10.440 this movie and some successes. I will say there were 0:03:10.440 --> 0:03:11.440 some things that made me laugh. 0:03:11.560 --> 0:03:13.880 There were a couple funny jokes. I'll admit it. 0:03:14.080 --> 0:03:17.840 The nine one one white woman in trouble joke, very funny. 0:03:18.720 --> 0:03:19.079 Was up. 0:03:19.240 --> 0:03:21.440 It really was like many jokes in this movie just 0:03:21.520 --> 0:03:27.720 repeating a joke that had previously been made. But I laughed, sure, Becauzam, 0:03:28.440 --> 0:03:31.160 I laughed, sure, But that was more just because they 0:03:31.200 --> 0:03:36.760 said something. Anyways, So Regina Hall was she was like, yeah, 0:03:36.800 --> 0:03:39.360 so I you know, I got the chance to do 0:03:39.400 --> 0:03:42.640 this part, and my manager or agent or whoever, was like, 0:03:43.080 --> 0:03:47.320 probably don't do this because this is like a super 0:03:47.360 --> 0:03:51.040 stereotyped black woman character. I think that she called it 0:03:51.080 --> 0:03:53.960 a loud girl character, which I'd never heard it in 0:03:54.000 --> 0:03:56.000 that way before. But yeah, like she's like, it's a 0:03:56.040 --> 0:03:59.000 loud girl character. You're going to get type cast as this, 0:03:59.240 --> 0:04:02.280 like I will didn't do it, And Regina Hall was like, 0:04:03.040 --> 0:04:06.600 She's like, and now I really understood what they meant. 0:04:07.760 --> 0:04:10.880 But like she she took the role because A it 0:04:10.920 --> 0:04:12.400 was a role, and B because she was a big 0:04:12.440 --> 0:04:15.240 fan of the Waynes Brothers, which is I'm sure while 0:04:15.280 --> 0:04:18.800 a lot of people were in this movie. And and 0:04:19.160 --> 0:04:23.039 I didn't realize that this movie was more financially successful 0:04:23.320 --> 0:04:27.160 than the movie that it's based on, Scream. I mean, 0:04:27.320 --> 0:04:29.440 both are wildly successful. And I know what you did 0:04:29.520 --> 0:04:33.440 last summer, but only for like ten minutes. Weirdly, I 0:04:33.480 --> 0:04:34.240 thought it's. 0:04:34.080 --> 0:04:36.839 Definitely way more parodying Scream. 0:04:36.960 --> 0:04:41.320 Yeah, but Scream obviously came out in ninety six, made 0:04:41.400 --> 0:04:44.560 for fifteen million dollars, made one hundred and seventy three 0:04:44.600 --> 0:04:50.360 million dollars. Hello, scary movie made for nineteen million dollars, 0:04:50.360 --> 0:04:55.240 made two hundred and seventy eight million dollars. Wild unjust 0:04:56.440 --> 0:05:01.400 unjust Yeah, sorry, anyways, I just I I didn't know 0:05:01.440 --> 0:05:03.839 Regina Hall was in this and I was like upset 0:05:03.960 --> 0:05:07.000 for her and Anna Faris Anna Faris. I feel like 0:05:07.200 --> 0:05:09.800 she said a very interesting career where you're just like, 0:05:11.400 --> 0:05:14.200 is anyone ever gonna let her cook? Is anyone ever 0:05:14.240 --> 0:05:17.240 gonna let this woman cook? Or anyways? 0:05:18.720 --> 0:05:25.960 Ah Okay, I'm yelling, oh, well, what's your history with this? 0:05:26.120 --> 0:05:27.960 Had you seen it before? No? 0:05:28.279 --> 0:05:31.559 I had not seen it. I had seen clips of 0:05:31.920 --> 0:05:34.080 I've never seen a scary movie all the way through, 0:05:34.320 --> 0:05:37.320 but I feel like these movies often find second lives 0:05:37.360 --> 0:05:39.719 in There were scenes I recognized because they were like 0:05:39.839 --> 0:05:44.040 posted on like early YouTube or whatever, or I think 0:05:44.120 --> 0:05:48.440 I definitely remember whatever scary movie because luckily this is 0:05:48.480 --> 0:05:50.280 streaming on Paramount Plus right now. And I was like, 0:05:50.320 --> 0:05:54.279 should I watch scary movie too? It's not streaming, okay, whatever, 0:05:55.080 --> 0:05:55.640 h well. 0:05:56.279 --> 0:05:59.120 It is on Hoopla and I did watch it for this. 0:05:59.279 --> 0:06:02.480 I have like one to two notes on it. It's okay, 0:06:02.720 --> 0:06:05.920 but I only rewatched it because not to interrupt your 0:06:06.000 --> 0:06:08.440 history with it. But you're fine, it's there. 0:06:08.760 --> 0:06:11.240 There isn't any I mean, I saw it in clips. 0:06:11.320 --> 0:06:13.200 I just I was always gonna say, is I remember 0:06:13.240 --> 0:06:16.080 the one is scary movie too? The one that references 0:06:16.120 --> 0:06:19.160 the ring I remember the clipt from The Ring, I 0:06:19.200 --> 0:06:22.200 don't think, so that must be Regina Hall fighting the 0:06:22.200 --> 0:06:23.720 girl from the Ring? What oppen? 0:06:23.720 --> 0:06:26.960 Okay, that must be Scary Movie three or beyond, because 0:06:27.000 --> 0:06:28.240 there are I think five of. 0:06:28.200 --> 0:06:31.599 These total, and the original cast is like basically in 0:06:31.640 --> 0:06:35.120 the first four, which is why like they they I'm 0:06:35.120 --> 0:06:38.760 pretty sure they kept Regina Hall until Scary Movie four. 0:06:39.120 --> 0:06:41.400 Poor Regina what Anyways? 0:06:41.680 --> 0:06:45.120 Yeah, I had seen this movie before it came out 0:06:45.120 --> 0:06:48.400 in two thousand and I was thirteen or fourteen, so yeah, 0:06:48.480 --> 0:06:51.720 the target demo totally. And I think I saw this 0:06:51.760 --> 0:06:54.360 before I saw a Scream, So. 0:06:54.520 --> 0:06:57.400 I've seen a lot of letterbox reviews to that effect, 0:06:57.480 --> 0:06:59.560 which is like kind of fun it was. 0:06:59.640 --> 0:07:03.560 I mean, I wish it had been the other way around, 0:07:03.640 --> 0:07:07.400 but sure, I can't fix it now. And I think 0:07:07.440 --> 0:07:10.720 I only saw a Scary movie once prior or Oh no, 0:07:10.800 --> 0:07:14.040 I did actually rewatch it when we covered Scream just 0:07:14.040 --> 0:07:16.200 to see, and I think I just had a little 0:07:16.800 --> 0:07:20.360 just a couple comments about how it's like so bad 0:07:20.720 --> 0:07:25.160 and every horrible joke that you can think of is made. 0:07:25.440 --> 0:07:30.520 Yeah, I didn't realize exactly how like beat for because 0:07:30.600 --> 0:07:34.840 I didn't watch Scary movie too. I watched Scream immediately after, 0:07:35.240 --> 0:07:38.920 and which was helpful because I hadn't seen I hadn't 0:07:38.920 --> 0:07:40.800 seen Scream for like a year or something like I 0:07:40.880 --> 0:07:45.600 usually watch it every Halloween. But just like literally seen 0:07:45.760 --> 0:07:49.120 to scene there is reused dialogue, which that one point 0:07:49.120 --> 0:07:50.280 they call attention. 0:07:50.080 --> 0:07:54.200 To in Scary Movie. Yeah, you're just like this sucks, 0:07:54.720 --> 0:07:58.600 this is so lazy and oh god this Yeah, this 0:07:58.640 --> 0:08:03.680 movie is truly really punishing. But so in two thousand 0:08:03.720 --> 0:08:07.680 and one, when Scary Movie two came out, for some reason, 0:08:07.920 --> 0:08:12.080 I was slightly more attached to that one. I had 0:08:12.080 --> 0:08:16.080 seen that probably three or four times in the early 0:08:16.120 --> 0:08:19.400 two thousands. We're saying, I think probably once in theaters 0:08:19.440 --> 0:08:23.120 and then I'm guessing like I would like go to 0:08:23.120 --> 0:08:27.240 a friend's house for a hang and we would put 0:08:27.280 --> 0:08:29.960 it on. I don't know, but I have like more 0:08:31.000 --> 0:08:33.920 memories from that one. I kind of didn't really remember 0:08:33.960 --> 0:08:36.880 anything from Scary Movie. They're all horrible. I don't think 0:08:36.920 --> 0:08:40.839 I've seen any of the sequels beyond Scary Movie two. 0:08:41.559 --> 0:08:44.160 I think that that's fair. Yeah, I've like it's just 0:08:44.320 --> 0:08:47.679 all like although I mean, okay, positive things I can 0:08:47.679 --> 0:08:52.800 say about this movie. Also, the Waynes brothers. They're historic figures, 0:08:52.880 --> 0:08:57.040 right like, they're ye who have made stuff I really like. 0:08:57.440 --> 0:09:02.160 For example, Hollywood Shuffle movie we've covered on this very shows. 0:09:02.200 --> 0:09:04.880 It was directed by Robert Townsend, but it was co 0:09:04.920 --> 0:09:10.200 written by Keenan Ivry Wayns. He created in living color, 0:09:10.280 --> 0:09:14.600 which is like an iconic comedy series. This was I 0:09:14.600 --> 0:09:18.800 didn't realize scary movie, whether we like it as a 0:09:18.840 --> 0:09:21.920 movie or not, was the highest grossing movie by a 0:09:21.960 --> 0:09:27.960 black director for years until a different bad movie displaced it, 0:09:28.160 --> 0:09:32.079 Fantastic Four in two thousand and five. Jessica Alba Fantastic. 0:09:31.559 --> 0:09:34.880 Four, Yeah, directed by Tim's story. Yeah. Also he I 0:09:34.920 --> 0:09:36.640 mean he worked a ton with any More, like all 0:09:36.679 --> 0:09:40.880 this stuff right like I so, I guess listeners, when 0:09:40.920 --> 0:09:44.679 you're setting your expectations, this is not a takedown of 0:09:44.720 --> 0:09:49.120 the Waynes brother writ large Right, they're complicated figures, but 0:09:49.240 --> 0:09:53.400 they are also like just like iconic comedians. I would 0:09:53.440 --> 0:09:57.480 say that this genre specifically is maybe the genre that 0:09:57.920 --> 0:10:01.679 is set to age the absolutely the worst of almost 0:10:01.679 --> 0:10:06.079 any movie genre, because not only is the hu more 0:10:06.400 --> 0:10:10.559 very offensive and dated, so were the references. 0:10:11.200 --> 0:10:14.199 So if so, if you like, we're not the target 0:10:14.240 --> 0:10:16.280 audience for this movie. You're just like, I feel like 0:10:16.280 --> 0:10:18.200 I'm being punished and I don't know what they're fucking 0:10:18.280 --> 0:10:18.920 talking about. 0:10:19.440 --> 0:10:24.200 So there's a reference in Scary Movie Too, where there's 0:10:24.240 --> 0:10:28.200 like this hole it's horrible, but the tires on a 0:10:28.200 --> 0:10:33.920 wheelchair are Firestone tires. Do you remember the whole scandal 0:10:34.000 --> 0:10:39.280 around Firestone tires? Not really two thousands? No, exactly exactly. 0:10:39.120 --> 0:10:39.640 What is it? 0:10:39.800 --> 0:10:42.240 I remember, I'm kind of curious, just that they were 0:10:42.320 --> 0:10:46.439 horribly made, and like cars kept getting in horrible accidents 0:10:46.440 --> 0:10:49.400 because like the tires would basically fall apart or like 0:10:49.520 --> 0:10:53.160 catch on fire or something while they were driving. Whoa, 0:10:53.280 --> 0:10:55.720 And so there's a reference to that in Scary Movie Too. 0:10:55.960 --> 0:10:57.960 I did not know that to your point, No one 0:10:58.280 --> 0:10:59.160 remembers that. 0:10:59.520 --> 0:11:03.720 No except for me. Also, there's a continuing on on 0:11:04.040 --> 0:11:07.480 the Wayne's brother train, because there's just so many brothers. 0:11:07.920 --> 0:11:10.640 Wayne's brother also wrote and directed a movie we will 0:11:10.640 --> 0:11:13.000 be covering on the show. It's just like the recording 0:11:13.040 --> 0:11:17.160 time keeps getting postponed. White white Ken and Ivory Wayne's 0:11:17.320 --> 0:11:20.200 is not you know, at the top of he's not 0:11:20.240 --> 0:11:20.959 one of the white. 0:11:20.840 --> 0:11:24.880 Chicks, and who can forget major pain for that? 0:11:25.160 --> 0:11:27.800 Did I ever tell you I've never seen Major Pain, 0:11:28.120 --> 0:11:32.000 but my freshman year of college, we had a cardboard 0:11:32.000 --> 0:11:34.600 cutout of him in my room. My ROOMT had a 0:11:34.640 --> 0:11:37.959 cardboard cutout of Major Pain. So he was, in fact 0:11:37.960 --> 0:11:41.760 the first person I saw when I woke Well, not 0:11:41.760 --> 0:11:44.360 a part, he's cardboard, but like, h yeah, Damon Waynes 0:11:44.440 --> 0:11:46.680 was the first thing I saw when I woke up. Wow. 0:11:47.280 --> 0:11:51.880 And then you've got Damon Wayne's junior yup of New Girl, 0:11:52.000 --> 0:11:53.920 Fame and others. 0:11:53.960 --> 0:11:59.920 Hollywood Dynasty. Yeah, there's there. I think their generation of 0:12:00.080 --> 0:12:02.560 Wayne's in Hollywood. Now I'm not totally sure. 0:12:03.800 --> 0:12:07.240 Well there's like there are like ten siblings, yes, because 0:12:07.280 --> 0:12:12.760 it's like Keenan Ivory Wayne's and Sean Wayns and Marlon 0:12:12.800 --> 0:12:15.120 Wayns are all brothers. 0:12:15.520 --> 0:12:18.000 Is Damon Wayne's a cousin? 0:12:18.440 --> 0:12:26.760 Like I googled Wayne's family tree? Okay, let me where's 0:12:26.800 --> 0:12:27.199 the tab? 0:12:27.400 --> 0:12:29.640 Starting to feel very Game of Thrones, like you have 0:12:29.760 --> 0:12:30.880 to there's charts. 0:12:30.920 --> 0:12:34.920 So Dwayne Waynes is a writer and film composer. He's 0:12:34.960 --> 0:12:39.520 the eldest. Then Keenan Ivory Waynes is the second eldest. 0:12:40.360 --> 0:12:43.959 There's Deirdre who's a screenwriter and producer. 0:12:44.520 --> 0:12:46.080 I didn't know there was a Wayne's sister. 0:12:46.240 --> 0:12:50.120 Wow, Yeah, there's another. There's Kimberly and actor and. 0:12:50.120 --> 0:12:53.480 Writer Kimberly never mind because she's she's in some of 0:12:53.520 --> 0:12:54.000 their stuff. 0:12:54.080 --> 0:12:58.040 Yeah, there's Elvira. She has worked as a writer's assistant 0:12:58.320 --> 0:13:03.360 and a writer. Okay, There's Nadya, who the little blurb 0:13:03.400 --> 0:13:06.400 about her has primarily stayed out of the spotlight. 0:13:06.920 --> 0:13:07.560 Good for her. 0:13:07.800 --> 0:13:12.360 There's DeVaughn, also largely kept her life private. There's Sean. 0:13:12.559 --> 0:13:15.400 I like that the girls. The girls are generally like no, 0:13:15.559 --> 0:13:18.920 thank you, not interested, like good for you, good for you. 0:13:19.880 --> 0:13:23.160 Sean born in nineteen seventy one and Marlon born in 0:13:23.240 --> 0:13:27.800 seventy two, versus their elder brother Keenan born in nineteen 0:13:27.840 --> 0:13:31.720 fifty eight and Damon Senior born in nineteen sixty. So yeah, 0:13:31.720 --> 0:13:34.840 there's like many siblings many years apart. 0:13:35.080 --> 0:13:37.480 But Keenan's guy. I always think of him as like 0:13:37.520 --> 0:13:39.840 sort of the elder because it's like his younger brothers 0:13:39.880 --> 0:13:42.600 are in his stuff. He was involved in Eddie Murphy 0:13:42.720 --> 0:13:46.080 raw like he's I feel like he's the I don't 0:13:46.120 --> 0:13:51.240 know they's So it's we could do a whole Wayne's 0:13:51.840 --> 0:13:56.560 family history show basically, right, Yeah, and I also I 0:13:57.120 --> 0:14:01.120 was like, which Wayne's brother was it Marlon's last year. 0:14:01.200 --> 0:14:02.800 In spite of the fact that we will see some 0:14:02.960 --> 0:14:06.840 very you know, transphobic and homophobic jokes in Scary Movie, 0:14:07.120 --> 0:14:10.560 I do feel like it is worth mentioning that a 0:14:10.600 --> 0:14:13.920 couple of years ago. I don't know if his son 0:14:14.160 --> 0:14:15.800 said it publicly or if he has asked about it, 0:14:15.840 --> 0:14:19.320 but he has a trans son who he has been 0:14:19.640 --> 0:14:25.920 extremely publicly vocally supportive of, which I thought was really 0:14:26.040 --> 0:14:30.920 nice to. You know, people can grow. So while Marlon 0:14:30.920 --> 0:14:34.160 Wayne's you know, as we'll talk about, had a hand 0:14:34.240 --> 0:14:38.640 in writing some pretty horrifically transphobic and homophobic jokes in 0:14:38.880 --> 0:14:42.880 the year two thousand, I, you know, again just couching 0:14:42.920 --> 0:14:47.440 it in people grow. We're talking about the year two 0:14:47.480 --> 0:14:49.920 thousand and it's not going to feel good. 0:14:50.360 --> 0:14:51.600 It certainly is not. 0:14:52.120 --> 0:14:54.360 So Yeah, your history is you saw it when it 0:14:54.480 --> 0:14:57.200 came out, But you're more of a scary movie too, head. 0:14:57.240 --> 0:15:01.360 I mean, technically yes, But also I've I've left these 0:15:01.400 --> 0:15:03.400 movies in the path. I haven't seen any of them 0:15:03.400 --> 0:15:07.680 since like probably two thousand and three, fair enough, but yeah, 0:15:07.680 --> 0:15:10.640 for some reason, Scary Movie two was the one which 0:15:10.720 --> 0:15:14.560 is mostly a parody of Oh. 0:15:14.480 --> 0:15:16.600 Yeah, Do they always choose like one movie to basically 0:15:16.720 --> 0:15:17.720 rip off pretty much? 0:15:17.840 --> 0:15:21.200 Yeah, and then maybe there will be like kind of 0:15:21.200 --> 0:15:24.600 a side plot or like a secondary movie that they'll 0:15:24.600 --> 0:15:29.120 pull from, But it seems to be like mostly one movie, Yeah, 0:15:29.160 --> 0:15:34.800 the Haunting from nineteen ninety nine, although the opening sequence 0:15:34.800 --> 0:15:38.600 of Scary Movie two is an Exorcist parody. 0:15:39.200 --> 0:15:43.240 They love the Exorcist because it's also heavily round. I mean, 0:15:43.280 --> 0:15:44.960 I guess it is like one of the most iconic 0:15:45.000 --> 0:15:47.920 horror movies, but it's not recent at all, So I 0:15:47.960 --> 0:15:48.680 was like, why is it. 0:15:48.640 --> 0:15:52.600 They also love Titanic. Yeah, because there's a Titanic reference 0:15:52.640 --> 0:15:54.960 in Scary Movie and Scary Movie two. 0:15:55.400 --> 0:15:59.560 I thought that was a pretty clever, dark but well 0:15:59.600 --> 0:16:04.400 execution almostad too. They're okay, there's just there's just a lot. 0:16:04.480 --> 0:16:07.680 There's a lot going on. Yeah, this movie wants to 0:16:07.680 --> 0:16:10.680 be screamed so bad, and this is the crux of 0:16:10.720 --> 0:16:13.760 it that I know. I'm like, in no way the 0:16:13.760 --> 0:16:17.080 first person to make this observation. We've talked about over text, 0:16:17.120 --> 0:16:21.720 but like, why would you parody Scream when Scream is 0:16:21.760 --> 0:16:25.240 a satire of horror movies? It's a hat on a 0:16:25.360 --> 0:16:31.120 hat it does. So I feel like any or most 0:16:31.240 --> 0:16:33.080 of at least if you're looking at this from a 0:16:33.080 --> 0:16:37.200 critical standpoint, which I know you're not supposed to, but 0:16:37.320 --> 0:16:38.360 we're doing it anyway. 0:16:38.520 --> 0:16:39.520 It's our job. 0:16:39.560 --> 0:16:41.960 But that's our job. That's what you pay us the 0:16:42.000 --> 0:16:45.560 five dollars for. But you know, like I feel like 0:16:45.640 --> 0:16:51.120 most of the attempts to, like Scream in particular, it 0:16:51.280 --> 0:16:55.400 just like falls apart really quickly because it's like Scream 0:16:55.480 --> 0:16:59.560 is already it would make more sense to do, you know, 0:16:59.640 --> 0:17:03.600 an ursus parody or a sixth sense parody, or like 0:17:03.840 --> 0:17:08.280 a movie that is at its core sincere not that Scream, 0:17:08.320 --> 0:17:10.600 I mean and Scream. So that was what I did 0:17:10.640 --> 0:17:13.600 instead of watching scary movie too. I rewatched Scream. We've 0:17:13.600 --> 0:17:16.040 covered it on the show before. It's a classic. It's great, 0:17:16.840 --> 0:17:20.840 you know, has its flaws, certainly, but like it is 0:17:21.280 --> 0:17:26.480 clearly commenting on horror tropes, which I feel like the 0:17:26.520 --> 0:17:28.480 second trilogy does even. 0:17:28.840 --> 0:17:35.120 More in like pretty I think clever and astute ways, 0:17:35.560 --> 0:17:39.120 something that scary movie you know, utterly fails to do. 0:17:39.880 --> 0:17:42.800 And it's not even like rewatching Scream, I mean it's 0:17:42.920 --> 0:17:45.640 high drama. Like you love the characters, but like it's 0:17:45.720 --> 0:17:49.560 not subtle about what it's doing, like it's it's tell 0:17:50.000 --> 0:17:55.000 but you know, the scary movie really challenges whatnot subtle 0:17:55.080 --> 0:17:57.320 can look like. Yeah, I don't know, do you have 0:17:57.359 --> 0:18:01.760 anything else? I guess, oh the last whatever positive contextual 0:18:01.840 --> 0:18:04.960 thing that I will say about this movie and also 0:18:05.400 --> 0:18:07.719 what they make scherioh Terry do in this movie. I 0:18:07.760 --> 0:18:13.080 love Schario Terry, Like can we not make her do that? Anyways, 0:18:13.359 --> 0:18:17.960 but that this movie's success and again feel about this 0:18:18.040 --> 0:18:23.840 way you will basically revived this genre like the like 0:18:24.119 --> 0:18:29.159 super spoofy summer movie and that like continued throughout the 0:18:29.200 --> 0:18:32.960 two thousands, like with this franchise, but also with you know, 0:18:33.320 --> 0:18:35.320 epic movie vampires. 0:18:34.840 --> 0:18:37.399 Suck blah blah blah, like those movies got another teen 0:18:37.520 --> 0:18:38.639 movie totally. 0:18:38.680 --> 0:18:42.840 Yeah, Like there there were stuff like this in the 0:18:42.880 --> 0:18:44.560 eighties and nineties and not saying there were the most 0:18:44.600 --> 0:18:47.800 baseballs you know, like but in general, like it feels 0:18:47.800 --> 0:18:50.159 like these kinds of movies had a huge moment in 0:18:50.280 --> 0:18:55.160 like the seventies and then again in the two thousands. 0:18:55.440 --> 0:18:59.480 I forget if it was epic movie or there were 0:18:59.600 --> 0:19:01.800 a hand full of ones like this where they were 0:19:01.840 --> 0:19:05.720 just like, let's take a pretty broad genre and then 0:19:05.800 --> 0:19:08.480 call it something movie. I don't remember if it was 0:19:08.560 --> 0:19:12.720 epic movie or something similar, but I walked out of it. 0:19:12.880 --> 0:19:14.320 I went to go see in the theater and I 0:19:14.400 --> 0:19:17.760 was like, this is so bad. It's like one of 0:19:17.760 --> 0:19:19.679 the few movies I've ever walked out of. I so 0:19:19.840 --> 0:19:21.560 to say, do you remember the first movie you walked 0:19:21.560 --> 0:19:23.320 out of? I did, and it might have been that. 0:19:24.080 --> 0:19:26.480 Really, it made me feel so powerful the first movie 0:19:26.520 --> 0:19:29.720 I walked out of, and like in retrospect, I was like, Okay, 0:19:29.760 --> 0:19:32.440 that was a little dramatic. But I walked out of 0:19:33.000 --> 0:19:35.040 bas Lerman's Great Gatsby. 0:19:36.240 --> 0:19:37.920 I mean visual cacophony. 0:19:38.040 --> 0:19:41.080 I said, enough is enough, enough is enough. I think 0:19:41.080 --> 0:19:43.760 I was being like a little like, this isn't like 0:19:43.880 --> 0:19:45.840 the book, Like you know, I was being a dork. 0:19:46.480 --> 0:19:48.199 But you know what I did did I said what 0:19:48.240 --> 0:19:50.960 I said, And I remember that when I did it, 0:19:51.000 --> 0:19:53.399 I was wearing a Monster's University hat. So it still 0:19:53.480 --> 0:19:57.720 was like kind of humiliating. Anyway, that's hilarious, adult woman. 0:19:57.880 --> 0:20:01.520 I almost walked out of bos Lherman's el this because 0:20:01.600 --> 0:20:04.719 that to me was very people. Oh you know what, 0:20:04.760 --> 0:20:06.960 I think it was disaster movie that I walked out 0:20:06.960 --> 0:20:08.240 of two thousand and eight. 0:20:08.280 --> 0:20:12.720 Oh I remember, Yes, I mean that felt barely justified. 0:20:12.960 --> 0:20:16.080 I like, I don't know, I don't know. 0:20:17.080 --> 0:20:20.359 Yeah. The last thing I'll say before we dive into 0:20:20.359 --> 0:20:23.320 the recap is that something that would have probably made 0:20:23.320 --> 0:20:26.080 more sense to bring up on the Young Frankenstein episode, 0:20:26.080 --> 0:20:30.240 because we were talking about our relationship with spoof and parody, 0:20:30.880 --> 0:20:34.640 I forgot to mention that I made a student film 0:20:35.040 --> 0:20:38.240 which was a parody. I think I mentioned it on 0:20:38.280 --> 0:20:43.399 the show before. But it's called Car Wars Return of 0:20:43.440 --> 0:20:47.960 the Jetta. Wait, I don't rememberich is awesome. I think 0:20:48.000 --> 0:20:48.520 we can. 0:20:48.400 --> 0:20:51.960 All agree, okay, no notes, it. 0:20:51.880 --> 0:20:54.679 Was okay, so because my friend had a beat up 0:20:54.880 --> 0:20:57.639 Volkswagen Jetta, and so I was just like, can I 0:20:57.760 --> 0:21:00.520 use your car slash? Will you be in my my 0:21:00.680 --> 0:21:01.399 little movie? 0:21:02.760 --> 0:21:06.359 That's sweet? I love that. I Also, I guess I 0:21:06.359 --> 0:21:09.560 should have for my context, I should have mentioned for 0:21:09.640 --> 0:21:12.000 all the shit I'm about to talk. You know, I 0:21:12.040 --> 0:21:16.440 wrote on Robot Chicken for two seasons, so look, so look, 0:21:16.840 --> 0:21:21.000 am I above this clearly not? Clearly not? I wrote 0:21:21.040 --> 0:21:24.440 on robot Chicken for two seasons. For like five dollars cumulatively, 0:21:24.560 --> 0:21:26.320 So like, you know. 0:21:26.240 --> 0:21:28.800 But pretty good parody sketches on that. 0:21:29.040 --> 0:21:29.440 I agree. 0:21:29.520 --> 0:21:31.520 I've always been a fan of that show I Gritty. 0:21:31.920 --> 0:21:34.480 That was my favorite that I got away with I 0:21:34.600 --> 0:21:39.520 Gritty guys, come on, come on, you gotta watch I Gritty. Yeah, 0:21:39.600 --> 0:21:41.320 that was like God, that was like seven or eight 0:21:41.359 --> 0:21:43.520 years ago now, so even the ones that I am 0:21:43.560 --> 0:21:45.800 proud of still feel a little dated. One was like, 0:21:46.200 --> 0:21:51.000 uh about what was that Remy Mallick show, Mister Robot. Yeah, 0:21:51.119 --> 0:21:53.240 I did a mister Robot parody that at the time 0:21:53.320 --> 0:21:55.800 did numbers. But now someone would be like, huh, what 0:21:55.840 --> 0:21:58.679 do you mean by that? Anyways? Yeah, am I am? 0:21:58.680 --> 0:22:02.280 I above obvious pairs. No, no, I paid my rent 0:22:02.280 --> 0:22:03.000 for a little while. 0:22:03.280 --> 0:22:03.480 Yeh. 0:22:03.800 --> 0:22:09.720 But but I will say, having been in rooms of 0:22:09.760 --> 0:22:15.879 that nature, what you do find is constantly fighting against 0:22:16.520 --> 0:22:18.600 jokes that are not dissimilar to the ones that appear 0:22:18.600 --> 0:22:21.440 in this movie, because I feel like parody can be 0:22:21.560 --> 0:22:24.639 super fun, as you like, your short film is an 0:22:24.680 --> 0:22:28.919 example of that. I Gritty, It's an example of gritty. 0:22:29.080 --> 0:22:30.760 Wait, let me just say one more thing. Also, Okay, 0:22:30.760 --> 0:22:37.240 so I Gritty, Tanya, mister Robot, I Robot remember that. 0:22:37.200 --> 0:22:41.400 Makes you think, it makes you think, sorry, wait what 0:22:41.440 --> 0:22:43.600 was that? I there was like one robot because the 0:22:43.640 --> 0:22:46.240 catch I read that, I was like, oh, that didn't 0:22:46.240 --> 0:22:48.439 even have anything to do with anything. It was a 0:22:48.560 --> 0:22:52.239