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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on

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Speaker 1: iHeart Radio and welcome back to Coast to Coast George

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Speaker 1: Nori with you back with Edward Bruce Bynum. As we

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Speaker 1: are talking about consciousness and dreams. Is that dream that

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Speaker 1: she dies? How does that happen? Edward, Well, that's in

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Speaker 1: the scientific clinical literature. That's referred to as a precognitive

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Speaker 1: experience precognition, And it happens. It's freaky. Most of us

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Speaker 1: don't like it when it happens. It happens very rarely

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Speaker 1: to the overwhelming majority of us, but it still does

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Speaker 1: some people. However, I'm much more open to it than

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Speaker 1: others for lots of reasons that we don't really understand.

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Speaker 1: But that's called precognition. Did it come from her or

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Speaker 1: from him that it was his dream? But where did

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Speaker 1: it come from? That's the question, and be honestly, we

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Speaker 1: don't know. What we do know is it iss an

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Speaker 1: emerged in a systematic way out of a family system

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Speaker 1: of family unconscious So that's the study of side. It's

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Speaker 1: called side PSI. It's called precognition, and it's similar to

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Speaker 1: what we were talking about earlier in terms of crisis telepathy.

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Speaker 1: Crisis telepathis happens right now and a crisis here and now.

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Speaker 1: Precognition of necessity is something that usually happens three or

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Speaker 1: four days prior to the actual event. In the day

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Speaker 1: to day reality, there's precognition. It's related to another phenomenon

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Speaker 1: that happens in families too, and it's called PK or psychokinesis,

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Speaker 1: and that happens under certain circumstances also us and we

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Speaker 1: don't know exactly why, but we know the correlations. And

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Speaker 1: it's very often a situation in which there is a

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Speaker 1: troubled young adolescent, very often the female in the family,

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Speaker 1: and that is when the situation tends to happen with

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Speaker 1: there's displaced energy in the environment, usually of a malevolent nature.

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Speaker 1: And there are lots and lots and lots of dreams

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Speaker 1: of movies about this, so like Carrie and a few

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Speaker 1: others that that sort of capitalize on that for you know,

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Speaker 1: entertain the purposes, which is great, But the reality in

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Speaker 1: science is that that is referred to as TK or psychokinesis.

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Speaker 1: It's related to that crisis telepathy. And there's the other

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Speaker 1: one that you just mentioned, precognition. And there's also a

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Speaker 1: softer one called a clairvoyance, and that is hearing voices

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Speaker 1: at a distance, and that is usually gifted individuals who

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Speaker 1: can do that. So it's a whole field as it

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Speaker 1: emerges within the family system. And that's what I tried

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Speaker 1: to One of the areas that try to address in

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Speaker 1: the book of The Dream Life of Families is how

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Speaker 1: that happens in terms of the pattern recognition. You may

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Speaker 1: not know the exact causes of it, but you can

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Speaker 1: kind of recognize it and predict it because it happens

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Speaker 1: in certain kind of context, and it repeats itself. It

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Speaker 1: repeats itself, So it's pattern recognition a little bit. Do

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Speaker 1: you think you'll ever get the answer though, to ascertain

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Speaker 1: where it comes from? Yes? I do, Yes, I do.

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Speaker 1: I think that more that we understand families as systems,

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Speaker 1: we will understand not only the pattern itself, but get

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Speaker 1: to the point where we can kind of predict it,

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Speaker 1: you know, and maybe even in a distant future control it.

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Speaker 1: You know, three centuries ago, people used to rub a

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Speaker 1: wool over glass and they have sparks come out, or

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Speaker 1: one and so forth. But at that time, it was

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Speaker 1: like I just wow, what is that? You know? And

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Speaker 1: finally we got to figure out that that's stroking that

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Speaker 1: glass with the wool that is produces static electricity. That

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Speaker 1: static electricity from static electricity, that was eventually combined with

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Speaker 1: it begins in the scientific march that way, it's going

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Speaker 1: to be the same with PSI. In the distant future,

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Speaker 1: we're going to be able to control these forces and

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Speaker 1: use them for our healing practices. And that is what

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Speaker 1: the dream life for families it is about. Because you know,

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Speaker 1: twenty percent, George, twenty percent of our dreams have some

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Speaker 1: family member in one way or another. Really twenty percent

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Speaker 1: of our dreams, and that's a lot. That is a lot. Now,

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Speaker 1: it's not that the person is sitting here and as

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Speaker 1: my brother Richard, No, it's not that. But rather, if

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Speaker 1: you look at your dreams, twenty percent of them have

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Speaker 1: percentage of people who have not only family dreams, but

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Speaker 1: dreams in which the phenomenon of crisis, telepathy, psychokinesis, clairvoyance,

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Speaker 1: going into in the paranormal psychic phenomena, already, our dreams

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Speaker 1: they call prodromal dreams where your unconscious mind picks up

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Speaker 1: in the person's body themselves, in the person's physical body themselves.

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Speaker 1: They're called prodromal dreams, and they are kind of predictive

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Speaker 1: of a later physical illness. And it stands the reason

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Speaker 1: because deep inside, I mean, you know most of the

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Speaker 1: we can't be going around them. Well, I wonder if

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Speaker 1: they're mechanisms within the body that are telling us this,

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Speaker 1: or if there again, there's some kind of precognitiveness to it. Nope, Nope,

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Speaker 1: it's not precognitive. Georgia. Not precognitive, is straight direct biology,

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Speaker 1: and our conscious mind can pick up on it and

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Speaker 1: then it eventually makes its way to consciousness, but it

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Speaker 1: begins at a deep unconscious level. And if they're called

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Speaker 1: prodromal dreams, but they tell they predict our physical future health,

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Speaker 1: and they happen. The scientific community has studied them. We

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Speaker 1: just don't know what to do with it yet because

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Speaker 1: we don't understand enough about it. But the fact that

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Speaker 1: what the doctor is going to tell them. And that's

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Speaker 1: this up, but it occurs, and it is the same

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Speaker 1: who's deceased has passed over into and but they appear

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Speaker 1: in our dreams. Because the scientific community and as a

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Speaker 1: I'll give you a year's the concrete example of this.

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Speaker 1: Here's a real concrete example of this. The thirty plus

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Speaker 1: community has now changed its position in that and they say, yes,

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Speaker 1: And it stands to reason. You know, we are George,

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Speaker 1: we're conscious. We're conscious before we're born. You know, it's

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Speaker 1: It's called a near death experience, and it occurs, you know,

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Speaker 1: is how far it goes either way. That's right. What's amazing, too, Edward,

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Speaker 1: we are. But that ultimately we are luminous beings. We

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Speaker 1: making that clear and having psychology and psychiatry recognize that,

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Speaker 1: about ourselves. What part of this baffles you? The part

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Speaker 1: how it is that we know this, look at this,

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Speaker 1: of like past the biscuits. Please. What makes some people

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Speaker 1: it doesn't make any difference, because every night everybody dreams.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely remember our dreams. Some of us don't remember our dreams.

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Speaker 1: Some of us are fascinated by our dreams. Some of

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Speaker 1: us think it's all, uh, this nonsense. In the Braden's chemistry,

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Speaker 1: other people outside who don't listen to the show. You agree, Oh, absolutely, absolutely,

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Speaker 1: And that is the beginning of deeper wisdom. That is

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Speaker 1: the beginning of deeper wisdom is to recognize intuitively, intuitively

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Speaker 1: that I am more than my physical self. Most people

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Speaker 1: of talk about it. And in dark light consciousness, I

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Speaker 1: give folks a biological, medical, scientific way to talk about

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Speaker 1: that kind of phenomena. How our nervous system is structured

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Speaker 1: The thing about that neural I don't know we're talking

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Speaker 1: it absorbs light, and not only absorbed light, it transduces that.

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Speaker 1: it's it's intelligent, whether it's it's it's something that you

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Speaker 1: lot of negative vibes we pick up from society and

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Speaker 1: And that's the reason why most people don't look at it,

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Speaker 1: it's not illegal, but it's it's boo. And that is

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Speaker 1: one of the final taboos that we have as a

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