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Speaker 1: My wife was sued. Now I'm feeling resentment towards her.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I'm feeling the heat.

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Speaker 1: As the title states, my wife recently sued, she lost,

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Speaker 1: and we had to pay. The money is a significant

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Speaker 1: our emergency fun to begin with, and both of those

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, I think we have a So the

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Speaker 2: title made it sound like she was being sued. She

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Speaker 1: Yep. My current problem is trying to move past the

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Speaker 1: resentment and anger i'm feeling towards my wife. By the way,

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Speaker 1: Okay Storytime selbredit. So what did my wife do? I

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Speaker 1: had no idea this was going on while it was happening.

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Speaker 1: So your wife hid something from me. She used LinkedIn

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Speaker 1: to find her former ex best friend. She ended up

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Speaker 1: creating a realistic looking fake LinkedIn profile with a vague

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Speaker 1: occupation of recruiter. My wife sent this ex best friend

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Speaker 1: Laura a few messages pretending to be a recruiter in

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Speaker 1: her line of work. Laura finally responded, thinking that this

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Speaker 1: was for a recruiter. It was real. My wife wanted

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Speaker 1: her phone number, but Laura gave her a personal email

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Speaker 1: address instead. My wife then created a second fake LinkedIn

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Speaker 1: profile and started sending messages to people with similar titles

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Speaker 1: to Laura at her company. These messages said derogatory things

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Speaker 1: about Laura, a mixture of truthful but embarrassing things and

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Speaker 1: just fabricated bs to make Laura look bad. My wife

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Speaker 2: I'm like real concerned at this point.

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Speaker 1: This is bad. This is bad.

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Speaker 2: But again, no knowledge of this going on while.

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Speaker 1: Let's have no idea. Her manager got one of these

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Speaker 1: messages that claimed Laura was a heavy substance user. Laura's

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Speaker 1: and helped her save these messages. Not only that, but

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Speaker 1: Laura requested that she be substance tested anyway to provide

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Speaker 1: further evidence that she was clean. My wife didn't know

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Speaker 2: This just keeps gidding worse, Pete.

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Speaker 1: Several of her coworkers, including her manager, testified on Laura's behalf,

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Speaker 1: and using the personal email address she got from the

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Speaker 1: few social media platforms Laura was on and was able

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Speaker 1: inerant saluting and found Laura's husband on Facebook. Laura's husband

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Speaker 1: email claiming that Laura was cheating on him. The husband

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Speaker 1: well as to start asking specific questions about this supposed affair.

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Speaker 1: My wife thought she was being clever and ended up

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Speaker 1: telling the husband that Laura cheated on him during the

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Speaker 1: didn't realize was that Laura had something turned on in

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Speaker 1: Some of the dates my wife gave him also happened

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Speaker 1: to be the days where they both worked from home together.

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Speaker 1: Oh brother, I mean, so your lives are falling apart.

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Speaker 1: But oh my god, like I am, I am, this

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Speaker 2: Honestly, don't know if this is still my wife after

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Like, this is also what the heck kind of

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Speaker 2: I don't know. And she's pregnant and you're ruining You're

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Speaker 2: trying to ruin a pregnant woman's life.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I also does like Dopi's wife have a job,

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Speaker 1: But she's I mean, she's not perfect. It's not perfect.

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Speaker 1: Oh man, okayming Wing says, sorry, I just got to

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Speaker 1: My wife decided to show up on announced The baby

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Speaker 2: Why why This is the definition of rent free in

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Speaker 1: If I was telling people that Laura didn't actually know

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, Oh my god, I'm leaving a fair

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Speaker 1: multiple occasions. All the messages were trying to paint Laura

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Speaker 1: in an extremely derogatory light. All the events I've mentioned

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Speaker 2: Not a year ago, a year or so. She did

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Speaker 1: This wasn't just like I'm like drunk one night and

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Speaker 2: What did she do?

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Speaker 1: Nicole h says jealousy. Amy Lenn says this is beyond petty. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: No, that's the other half of this, which is like

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Speaker 1: We got more to the story. We got This is

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Speaker 1: just the this is just the preamble, this is just

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Speaker 1: the context. My question, is this divorce worthy right now?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah? Yeah yeah, dude, I don't know you can

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Speaker 2: we do it? Don't a whole divorce or not. It's

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Speaker 2: I don't think I can get over it.

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Speaker 1: You know, this is this is bad. I think I

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Speaker 1: This is disgusting. So she was pained that her one

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Speaker 1: Before I knew she could be a little petty and

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Speaker 1: I think something to beware of. One of the things

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Speaker 1: I am wary of intensely is petty and vindictive people.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, unless it's really funny though, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 2: Unless it's like, but do you know, like on a

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Speaker 1: I think maybe the rule is it shouldn't be too damaged.

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Speaker 1: It's gotta be funny.

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Speaker 2: If you're gonna be petty, it can't be like because

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Speaker 2: you like have like a burning black hole pit inside

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Speaker 1: And I can't take up your life for a whole year. Yeah, right, right,

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Speaker 1: that's the key. We've had a very happy marriage. Otherwise,

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Speaker 1: we rarely fight, have a lot in common, We have

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Speaker 1: I've always felt like we were a partnership in our marriage,

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Speaker 1: feel like I'm spending my money on something that isn't

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Speaker 1: my faults. I've had no problem taking care of the

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Speaker 1: prepare for an emergency like a total car, someone losing

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Speaker 1: their job, medical bills, or an act of God, not

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Speaker 1: a stupid lawsuit where I know my wife is guilty.

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Speaker 2: Brother, I feel like that is fundamentally the wrong thing

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Speaker 1: She's a part time job and doesn't make much money,

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Speaker 1: want to start building an emergency fund again. We're pretty

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Speaker 1: So here we go. Their friendship ended about eight or

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Speaker 1: This is crazy. I'm sorry your wife has been crazy

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Speaker 2: Oh, this is like I'm like fully crashing sentence, she

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Speaker 2: And yeah, because that makes literally no sense. Yeah, we

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, your wife is crazy. You should stay away.

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Speaker 1: The Badpool girl says, this is a terrifying obsession. Holy Reiche. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Yep, can you make the face? Wait more? Give me

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Speaker 1: is the type to lie and cheat her way to

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00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:58,720
Speaker 1: the top of her career. And somehow Laura is able

439
00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:00,800
Speaker 1: to hide this from everyone in her.

440
00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:02,679
Speaker 2: Life, So be ready for her to come after you

441
00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:03,320
Speaker 2: next brother.

442
00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:06,520
Speaker 1: My wife felt like she was trying to expose Laura

443
00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:09,639
Speaker 1: for the monster that she is. Oh dude, you just

444
00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:14,960
Speaker 1: revealed something to me. When Ope divorces his wife, Yeah,

445
00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:16,840
Speaker 1: what is she going to do?

446
00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:19,399
Speaker 2: Probably like drop, but she's going to order like a

447
00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:22,879
Speaker 2: Looney Tunes style Anneville and oh my, hang it above

448
00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:26,200
Speaker 2: Op's front door. I am stay safe out there, brother,

449
00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:28,160
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. You gotta be ready for this. This

450
00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:29,000
Speaker 2: one's gonna come for you.

451
00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:30,600
Speaker 1: This woman is going to come for you, not in

452
00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:33,200
Speaker 1: a good way. She feels that Laura pressing charges ensuing

453
00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:36,439
Speaker 1: her is additional proof that Laura is vindictive. My hope

454
00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:38,280
Speaker 1: is that she has time to think while she's doing

455
00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:40,800
Speaker 1: her community service hours over the next year. I think

456
00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:42,399
Speaker 1: she feels bad that I had to empty out our

457
00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:44,720
Speaker 1: accounts and sell some things to come up with the money.

458
00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:46,840
Speaker 1: I talked to her about working more hours when she

459
00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:49,520
Speaker 1: has finished community service, and she agreed. Are you going

460
00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:53,240
Speaker 1: to get divorced? Ah, dude, I think yes. Nothing about

461
00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:57,480
Speaker 1: what you've said has given me any vindiction that she's

462
00:20:57,560 --> 00:21:00,000
Speaker 1: going to that she's going to change, or she feels bad,

463
00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:02,720
Speaker 1: or she's like a changed person. It only it only

464
00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:06,760
Speaker 1: confirms that it feels, it only confirms that she's she's

465
00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:07,040
Speaker 1: like this.

466
00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:10,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm going catatonic because I read the first sentence

467
00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:11,399
Speaker 2: that he wrote.

468
00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:15,399
Speaker 1: The thought crossed my mind. But no, We've been together

469
00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:17,320
Speaker 1: for so long and I still love her despite this

470
00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:20,560
Speaker 1: disgusting thing she has done. I can't see my life

471
00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:22,680
Speaker 1: without her. But I know, and I'm having a hard

472
00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:24,639
Speaker 1: time ebiting this to myself that if she doesn't improve

473
00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:26,720
Speaker 1: her learn a lesson from this mess, then I can't

474
00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:29,400
Speaker 1: be with her anymore. How dude, And she doesn't improve,

475
00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:31,760
Speaker 1: if you don't, if you aren't with her, it is

476
00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:33,080
Speaker 1: going to turn on you.

477
00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:34,240
Speaker 2: Brother, I'm not gonna lie.

478
00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:35,600
Speaker 1: You're gonna lose, lose situation.

479
00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:39,080
Speaker 2: And none of this is a deal breaker for you immediately.

480
00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:42,240
Speaker 2: I don't know if there's anything she could do to

481
00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:44,960
Speaker 2: make you leave her. I don't know. I don't know,

482
00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:48,120
Speaker 2: because like this is way more than like it crossed

483
00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:50,439
Speaker 2: my mind, Like it should be the thing that you

484
00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:54,280
Speaker 2: need to like bury underneath like a bunch of lead,

485
00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:57,600
Speaker 2: so that you can't so that you're just not constantly

486
00:21:57,640 --> 00:21:59,680
Speaker 2: thinking about it, because it's all I'd be thinking about,

487
00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:01,840
Speaker 2: is at my wife is psychotic.

488
00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:03,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think. I mean the trust for me

489
00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:06,400
Speaker 1: would be gone. But let's keep going so that if

490
00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:08,760
Speaker 1: she doesn't improve or learn a lesson from this mess,

491
00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:10,119
Speaker 1: then I can't be with her anymore. A lot of

492
00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:11,919
Speaker 1: people mention that if she can do this type of

493
00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:14,040
Speaker 1: thing to an ex friend, then she can do this

494
00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:17,639
Speaker 1: same to an ex husband. Yes, yes, this has me

495
00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:20,320
Speaker 1: worried some I'd like to believe she wouldn't go nuclear

496
00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:22,960
Speaker 1: on me for what we did. If we did file

497
00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:25,879
Speaker 1: for divorce, I'll be taking precautions in case I have

498
00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:29,200
Speaker 1: to defend myself in the future. You're taking precautions against

499
00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:31,600
Speaker 1: someone that you still want to be married to. Like, dude,

500
00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:32,240
Speaker 1: what are you doing?

501
00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:32,800
Speaker 2: Like?

502
00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:36,240
Speaker 1: Why is she only working part time? She's a licensed

503
00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:39,720
Speaker 1: massuse nice and works at a really nice salon slash spa.

504
00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:41,959
Speaker 1: Her hourly wage is pretty high, but she hasn't been

505
00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:44,320
Speaker 1: able to get the hour she wants at the spa

506
00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:46,960
Speaker 1: she works at. She could probably get a more full

507
00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:49,640
Speaker 1: time position at a different spa, but with a slightly

508
00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:53,160
Speaker 1: lower hourly wage, which would still bring in more income

509
00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:55,320
Speaker 1: than what she's doing now. She really likes the place

510
00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:57,199
Speaker 1: she is at and doesn't want to leave, But I

511
00:22:57,320 --> 00:22:59,720
Speaker 1: may pressure her to find full time work elsewhere to

512
00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:02,320
Speaker 1: help pay back and refill our emergency fund when she

513
00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:04,960
Speaker 1: has done with community service. At the moment, she's on

514
00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:07,960
Speaker 1: board with helping me put money back into our savings accounts.

515
00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:10,040
Speaker 1: What about therapy? I know we need this both as

516
00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:12,359
Speaker 1: a couple and as individuals to deal with this mess.

517
00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:14,400
Speaker 1: I talked to her about this, and she doesn't seem

518
00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:16,760
Speaker 1: totally sole on the idea therapy because she's going to

519
00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:18,879
Speaker 1: realize she has to change. I've expressed that I think

520
00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:21,080
Speaker 1: would help both of us, and she seems indifferent at

521
00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:23,120
Speaker 1: this point. I've talked to her parents, who are really

522
00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:26,159
Speaker 1: angry and disappointed in her. They basically begged me not

523
00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:27,879
Speaker 1: to leave her over this. I told her parents that

524
00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:29,720
Speaker 1: I think therapy would help both of us, but I

525
00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:32,320
Speaker 1: can't afford it now. They offer to pay for couples therapy,

526
00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:34,800
Speaker 1: but this is as much as they would be able

527
00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:37,520
Speaker 1: to afford, so it's a start. I know my wife

528
00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:40,000
Speaker 1: will need individual therapy, and if that means I stop

529
00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:42,040
Speaker 1: going to couples therapy so she can get the one

530
00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:44,400
Speaker 1: on one help she needs, so be it. I think

531
00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:46,679
Speaker 1: she needs one on one therapy more than union guy,

532
00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:48,920
Speaker 1: I need couple therapy. Yeah, I'm not ready to call

533
00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:51,560
Speaker 1: my wife a psychopath, as many of the comments did

534
00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:53,520
Speaker 1: in the last post. I think she got carried away

535
00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:55,800
Speaker 1: and thought she was trying to expose someone she truly

536
00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:57,080
Speaker 1: believed was a bad person.

537
00:23:57,160 --> 00:24:00,320
Speaker 2: Now there's a difference between psychopathy and being psychotic, though,

538
00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:03,720
Speaker 2: what's the difference. Well, one is like psychopathy is like

539
00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:06,959
Speaker 2: you're a psychopath. Psychotic is just like you got It's

540
00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:09,679
Speaker 2: like that's all of it, Yeah, any of it. Yeah,

541
00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:12,679
Speaker 2: it's like a psychotic break Yeah, it's you know, it's

542
00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:14,600
Speaker 2: there's a lot of stigma around that kind of stuff.

543
00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:18,200
Speaker 2: But it's like, honestly, your wife is just mentally not well,

544
00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:18,880
Speaker 2: not there.

545
00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:22,280
Speaker 1: She's not okay. She needs help for sure, like a lot.

546
00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:24,679
Speaker 1: I'm heavily leaning towards the idea that she had some

547
00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:27,000
Speaker 1: kind of mental breakdown and focus all of her energy

548
00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:29,480
Speaker 1: on this one woman and her life. I'm not going

549
00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:31,480
Speaker 1: to give up with my wife yet. It's very possible

550
00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:33,760
Speaker 1: that she has some underlying mental illness that could very

551
00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:36,879
Speaker 1: well be treated with therapy or meds. How much was

552
00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:39,800
Speaker 1: she sued for I really want to know. I don't

553
00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:42,360
Speaker 1: want to give specific numbers, but we'll take about four

554
00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:44,600
Speaker 1: to five years to get back where we were prior

555
00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:46,560
Speaker 1: to this happening. If my wife takes on a full

556
00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:49,159
Speaker 1: time job after she has done with community service and

557
00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:51,800
Speaker 1: hands over the majority of her paycheck, it may take

558
00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:55,000
Speaker 1: less than four years. Are kids involved? No, we don't

559
00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:56,840
Speaker 1: have kids and are not planning to have any. And

560
00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:57,399
Speaker 1: what next?

561
00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:01,840
Speaker 2: Get out? Run cool a man right through the wall.

562
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:03,960
Speaker 1: That's what I need help with. I've sat down with

563
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:05,840
Speaker 1: my wife a few times since the post, and I

564
00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:08,840
Speaker 1: can feel some resistance coming from her about starting couple's therapy.

565
00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:11,359
Speaker 1: I think she's irritated at her parents for offering to

566
00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:13,280
Speaker 1: pay for therapy for us. She has stated that she

567
00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:16,160
Speaker 1: would rather us solve our problems together without interference from

568
00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:18,520
Speaker 1: someone she doesn't know. By the way, if you want

569
00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:21,000
Speaker 1: interference from the people that you love, you should listen

570
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:23,840
Speaker 1: to full episodes. The story is just like this Spotify,

571
00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:26,760
Speaker 1: Apple podcast or your favorite podcast app and search. Okay, storytime.

572
00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:29,160
Speaker 1: There's a bit left to the story, but Dakota, before

573
00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:30,879
Speaker 1: we get to the end of the story, what should

574
00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:31,320
Speaker 1: Ope do?

575
00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:35,240
Speaker 2: Well ops the living embodiment of loyal to a fault

576
00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:36,480
Speaker 2: and he needs to.

577
00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:37,600
Speaker 1: Leave is he gonna leave?

578
00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:41,520
Speaker 2: No, No, it's said short of like, I don't know.

579
00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:44,560
Speaker 2: She like wakes up with, you know, an appendage in

580
00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:47,240
Speaker 2: her hand that she has sliced off of you.

581
00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:50,560
Speaker 1: Also, Sam the caterpillar says, Nah, a psychotic episode is

582
00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:54,400
Speaker 1: not this organized in all other facets of life. Could

583
00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:57,119
Speaker 1: have been been some kind of like manic, like oh.

584
00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:59,359
Speaker 2: Right, Maybe I'm just saying that nomenclature wrong, but I

585
00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:02,600
Speaker 2: just mean she's I don't know, it's just a psychotic break. No,

586
00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:04,600
Speaker 2: because it lasted like a year, But it's like she's

587
00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:08,760
Speaker 2: got a psychiatric condition that needs addressing, is my point.

588
00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:11,240
Speaker 1: But I hope he goes on. She's afraid she isn't

589
00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:13,600
Speaker 1: going to like any therapist we find, and that the

590
00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:16,159
Speaker 1: therapists will attack her. Throughout the sessions, I've tried to

591
00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:18,640
Speaker 1: explain to her that the therapist isn't there to blame anyone,

592
00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:20,320
Speaker 1: that they would try to help us, and that it

593
00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:21,960
Speaker 1: would be a safe space for her to talk and

594
00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:24,760
Speaker 1: vent about whatever she needs. I think she's smart enough

595
00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:27,080
Speaker 1: to know that if they go to therapy, the therapist

596
00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:29,240
Speaker 1: is going to be like, yo, hope you should leave.

597
00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:31,320
Speaker 1: I brought up the idea of therapy every night since

598
00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:33,760
Speaker 1: the post, and each time she's had an excuse along

599
00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:35,919
Speaker 1: the lines up it won't help. Therapists will ging up

600
00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:37,760
Speaker 1: on her. She isn't going to like the therapist. The

601
00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:40,320
Speaker 1: therapist won't like her, or that we can solve our

602
00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:42,159
Speaker 1: problems on our own.

603
00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:44,120
Speaker 2: And that's where that story ends. That's what you should

604
00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:46,320
Speaker 2: She not trying to change, she's not trying to grow.

605
00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:49,800
Speaker 2: I think this means you got to go. You should

606
00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:51,840
Speaker 2: let her grow on her own.

607
00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:54,440
Speaker 1: Yep, but that's where the story ends. But not where

608
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:57,320
Speaker 1: the episode at. We got another story coming up. Badpool

609
00:26:57,359 --> 00:27:00,480
Speaker 1: Girl says, well, she's absolutely not going to like anythingrapist. Yeah,

610
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:04,080
Speaker 1: therapist is not. The therapist is literally just gonna be like, dude,

611
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:06,080
Speaker 1: you are so far out of whack.

612
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:08,160
Speaker 2: Well, you know, they'll have a little more tact than that.

613
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:09,960
Speaker 2: But it's like people who are you, you know, like

614
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:13,440
Speaker 2: wrong quote unquote whatever in a given situation, like clearly

615
00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:16,320
Speaker 2: like harassing and stalking and getting you know, to the

616
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:19,200
Speaker 2: point where you're being held legally liable for damages that

617
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 2: you've done to this person. You're in the wrong. No

618
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,160
Speaker 2: matter what they did, you're in the wrong.

619
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:25,639
Speaker 1: It is to win a defamation suit.

620
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:28,200
Speaker 2: Right, It's like there's so much evidence and she did

621
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:31,800
Speaker 2: so much for so long that it was incontrovertible that

622
00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:35,680
Speaker 2: she was to be held liable. So I just don't

623
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 2: think she's gonna get anything out of it because she's

624
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:40,720
Speaker 2: she can't she can't be told anything that she's doing

625
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:41,200
Speaker 2: is wrong.

626
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:42,520
Speaker 1: She's not ready to change.

627
00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:44,000
Speaker 2: Well, I've got this story right.

628
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:44,439
Speaker 1: In your mind.

629
00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:46,119
Speaker 2: I'm gonna give it a little game, to.

630
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:47,000
Speaker 1: Give it a little whiff.

631
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:48,320
Speaker 2: I'm gonna give it a gander for you.

632
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:49,879
Speaker 1: Oh whiff, Oh boy?

633
00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:54,520
Speaker 2: Okay, are we ready? My husband is obsessed with his friend.

634
00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:55,880
Speaker 2: She doesn't even like him.

635
00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 1: This sound like a recipe for disastering simp husband.

636
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:03,320
Speaker 2: I thirty female, have been married to my husband, thirty

637
00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:06,720
Speaker 2: three male, for almost six years. We've been together for ten.

638
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:10,200
Speaker 2: We moved out of state together pretty early in our relationship,

639
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:13,040
Speaker 2: over eight years ago, but we moved back home almost

640
00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:16,359
Speaker 2: two years ago. Now we have two young kids, five male,

641
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:20,080
Speaker 2: two female, and my husband is currently untreated but diagnosed

642
00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:23,640
Speaker 2: with ADHD and I am undiagnosed autistic. We love each

643
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:26,400
Speaker 2: other and have some overlapping symptoms, but for the most part,

644
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:29,800
Speaker 2: our brains just work. Differently. I've accepted that he will

645
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:32,040
Speaker 2: never contribute the amount of work I do with the

646
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:34,080
Speaker 2: house and kids. He has way more freedom than me,

647
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:37,119
Speaker 2: as I am the one burdened with responsibility.

648
00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:37,680
Speaker 1: By the way.

649
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:39,720
Speaker 2: This comes from user of far Carpenter seventy seven to

650
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:41,640
Speaker 2: forty nine, and if you want to submit your own stories,

651
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:45,200
Speaker 2: go to the r slash Okay storytime subreddit. Okay, not

652
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 2: liking the start that we're off to tho.

653
00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:49,680
Speaker 1: It was like acim poles weight, but I guess I'm okay.

654
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:53,800
Speaker 2: So recently, he ran into an old friend. They never dated,

655
00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:55,360
Speaker 2: but he was in love with her.

656
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:55,920
Speaker 1: Yikes.

657
00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:58,520
Speaker 2: She rejected him and the friendship met an end, and

658
00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:01,680
Speaker 2: they ended up hanging out catching up, and he apologized

659
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:04,120
Speaker 2: to her for the past, saying she was a good

660
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 2: friend at the time when he needed one. He mistook

661
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:08,640
Speaker 2: her kindness as affection and thought she liked him, but

662
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:10,760
Speaker 2: it wasn't romantic for her. He feels bad for how

663
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:13,640
Speaker 2: he handled the situation, and while I admire his growth,

664
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 2: I don't enjoy this new friendship.

665
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:19,000
Speaker 1: I don't think he's grown. I don't think he's grown,

666
00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:20,960
Speaker 1: and I feel like you have every right to feel

667
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:23,760
Speaker 1: a little antsy about a friendship with an ex that

668
00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:25,680
Speaker 1: would him and he was in love with.

669
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:29,160
Speaker 2: I think, as his wife, you can be upset about this.

670
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:31,360
Speaker 1: Tell me if you think we're wrong. Chat. But this,

671
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:32,720
Speaker 1: this is not a fertile ground. And this is a

672
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:35,000
Speaker 1: husband that doesn't pull his weight and now is having

673
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:37,240
Speaker 1: a friendship with his ex that he's probably still in

674
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:38,400
Speaker 1: love with. Not great, not great.

675
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:42,040
Speaker 2: So so it's been about a month, okay, and they

676
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:44,040
Speaker 2: talk every single day.

677
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:44,880
Speaker 1: Yikes.

678
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:46,800
Speaker 2: Her car is in the shop and has been this

679
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:49,600
Speaker 2: whole time. He gives her rides to and from work

680
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:52,640
Speaker 2: or the store, and she gives a great friend to

681
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:56,440
Speaker 2: have right back. Yeah, and then she hops on the

682
00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:59,080
Speaker 2: the old stick ship, the old disco stick.

683
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:03,440
Speaker 1: I am not liking cheating. I'm calling cheating. I'm calling cheating.

684
00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 2: And look, you know what, actually, I'm gonna pull that

685
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:09,520
Speaker 2: one back real quick before I cast dispersions upon this

686
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:13,080
Speaker 2: old friend. It's really more him, yeah, the fact that

687
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:16,760
Speaker 2: he is now relentlessly pursuing a connection, Yeah, with this

688
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:19,680
Speaker 2: woman he had been in love with as a partner.

689
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:23,160
Speaker 2: To your wife, you're a scumbag for doing that. Anyway,

690
00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:27,080
Speaker 2: I do feel bad that she is going through such

691
00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:29,760
Speaker 2: a hard time. But why does my husband need to

692
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:32,600
Speaker 2: be her support system? He lent her two hundred dollars

693
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:35,400
Speaker 2: of our money, and he even tells her how beautiful

694
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:35,800
Speaker 2: she is.

695
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:41,360
Speaker 1: Ah, oh my god, I hate this so much. So

696
00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:44,840
Speaker 1: many red flags in this first part of the story. Yeah.

697
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:47,360
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know if he if she's in

698
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 1: love with him, but he's definitely in love with her.

699
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:53,240
Speaker 2: The only person this is good for is like a sister.

700
00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:55,000
Speaker 2: If you're married and you're doing this for any woman,

701
00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:57,160
Speaker 2: it better be someone directly related to you.

702
00:30:57,240 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 1: Blood related, blood related.

703
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:02,080
Speaker 2: Yeah. He tells me he's just trying to raise her

704
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:05,520
Speaker 2: standards and self esteem since she chooses bad partners.

705
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, like partners that are not me right.

706
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 2: Her fiance hasn't been home in months. He just spends

707
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 2: too much time with her. We've talked about it, and

708
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:15,400
Speaker 2: we've tried to come up with solutions to make me

709
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:18,520
Speaker 2: more comfortable with this friendship. He's brought her around. I've

710
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 2: hung out with her a couple of times, but I

711
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 2: just can't stop feeling slighted. He's such a good friend

712
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:25,000
Speaker 2: to her. He keeps telling me he's not trying to

713
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:27,240
Speaker 2: hurt me, and that he loves me, not her, But

714
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:30,120
Speaker 2: I've seen their messages and I am so uncomfortable with

715
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,520
Speaker 2: the amount of attention he gives her. He calls me

716
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:35,120
Speaker 2: beautiful too, but he'll call her a smoke show.

717
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 1: What this is so bad?

718
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:42,320
Speaker 2: And what is he going to try to say that

719
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:45,640
Speaker 2: his ADHD is what keeps him from understanding that that's

720
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:46,840
Speaker 2: not what you should do.

721
00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:49,760
Speaker 1: Sorry, babe, I call everyone a smoke show.

722
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:52,840
Speaker 2: You got to reserve smoke show for your wife, prop

723
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:56,400
Speaker 2: you know, or the homer probably like Dakota keon Absolute

724
00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:57,880
Speaker 2: Smoke Shows, or of the Homies.

725
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 1: So Sam, here, we're gonna get back to the store.

726
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 1: But here's three of it's bads from our sponsors.

727
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 2: She hasn't had any kids, and her body is way

728
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:09,440
Speaker 2: better than mine, and now she's the damsel in distress.

729
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 2: I feel like as long as she is a wounded bird,

730
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:14,040
Speaker 2: he is going to be focused on her needs, even

731
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:16,400
Speaker 2: at the cost of mind. He always tells me he

732
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 2: chose me, that he would never leave me and that

733
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:21,000
Speaker 2: he would never be with her, and I don't think

734
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:23,480
Speaker 2: he would cheat on me, but that is not enough.

735
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:27,360
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have the same level of faith based on

736
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:28,480
Speaker 1: everything I've seen right now.

737
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:31,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that confuses me because if that's not

738
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:35,240
Speaker 2: an issue, Okay, let's just keep reading. We've gotten into

739
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:37,640
Speaker 2: multiple fights about this. I haven't talked to any of

740
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:39,880
Speaker 2: my friends about this. He has told his friends and

741
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:43,200
Speaker 2: family about her. Some of them already knew her pretty much.

742
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:46,200
Speaker 2: Everyone is telling him to be careful. A lot of

743
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:48,920
Speaker 2: people are saying he needs to cut her out. I

744
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:51,240
Speaker 2: honestly feel like he loves her, but maybe it's just

745
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:54,800
Speaker 2: a hyperfixation. Either way, I'm unhappy. I've lost a little

746
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 2: bit of waight. I do my makeup and shower more,

747
00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 2: really working on my presentation, but it's just so lonely.

748
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 2: I just want to be with someone who thinks I'm

749
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,800
Speaker 2: as great as he thinks she is. He says that

750
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:06,719
Speaker 2: I'm great and that he loves me, but it's just

751
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:08,840
Speaker 2: not the same as the messages he sends her. I

752
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 2: already know there's no way I can break up their friendship.

753
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:15,120
Speaker 2: That's not fair. After all, he's not really cheating and

754
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:17,760
Speaker 2: she really is just a person trying to live her life.

755
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:20,080
Speaker 2: And he advised on how I can feel better about it.

756
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 2: I just don't like feeling so jealous and secure it's

757
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 2: really hurting how I feel about myself. At this point,

758
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:28,560
Speaker 2: I'm considering ending the relationship. Even though he says he

759
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:31,240
Speaker 2: chose me, he's still going to see her and help

760
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:33,680
Speaker 2: her all the time despite what it does to my feelings.

761
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:36,080
Speaker 2: How is that choosing me? I just don't know what's

762
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:38,240
Speaker 2: next for us. What's the best way to work through this?

763
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:40,960
Speaker 2: We still love each other. I tried asking if he

764
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:43,720
Speaker 2: could just spend less time talking to her and doing

765
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:47,120
Speaker 2: stuff with her. His response was, quote, if you start

766
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 2: setting restrictions on me, I'm going to be mad again.

767
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:52,240
Speaker 1: That's a classic gaslight move.

768
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:53,840
Speaker 2: This guy needs to listen to Weezer.

769
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:56,080
Speaker 1: Wait, I didn't just notice these heads.

770
00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's probably a latency on them though, so we

771
00:33:57,960 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 2: can't really wear them while we talk. Are they even

772
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 2: running out? I think yeah? But we it's yeah. Those

773
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:05,000
Speaker 2: are just for us to practice with so that we

774
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:07,160
Speaker 2: can hear like where we sat, what we sound like,

775
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:09,600
Speaker 2: where it's like over here, I sound like.

776
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 1: But yeah, no, no, no, no, no no, no, this is

777
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:17,239
Speaker 1: uh manipulation. This is this is a guy that this

778
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:19,879
Speaker 1: guy is actively throwing a relationship in the trash. And

779
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 1: there's been red flags before and he hasn't been pulling

780
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:24,919
Speaker 1: his weight. Now he's just not pulling his weight even more. Yeah,

781
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 1: leave leave op to be clear.

782
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 2: I gotta feel you in on something we just we

783
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:30,800
Speaker 2: just did yesterday. What remember, like throwing people into the

784
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:32,879
Speaker 2: sun and stuff. We kind of stopped doing that, right.

785
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 2: You know that that song on an Island where a

786
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:37,080
Speaker 2: Weezer says on an island in the sun. Well, that's

787
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:40,000
Speaker 2: why I want this guy to go, so instead I

788
00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:41,320
Speaker 2: just say, go listen to Weezer.

789
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:41,759
Speaker 1: Yeah.

790
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:44,239
Speaker 2: I like that he's gonna listen to Weezer. This guy

791
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 2: needs to listen to Weezer listening. Can I get you

792
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:48,479
Speaker 2: saying on the record, this guy should listen to Weezer.

793
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:49,879
Speaker 1: I think you should listen to Weezer, but I think

794
00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:52,120
Speaker 1: he should be on the island in the sun. But

795
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:54,120
Speaker 1: like peacefully of course, of course.

796
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:56,839
Speaker 2: We don't want anything bad Avenue. Yeah, she's gotta listen

797
00:34:56,880 --> 00:35:00,719
Speaker 2: to Weezer. Yeah, he just wants me to trust him

798
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:02,600
Speaker 2: and let him spend time with her. I do, and

799
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 2: I have been, and it still hurts my feelings and

800
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 2: I don't know how to get over it. How do

801
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 2: I move past this? And there's an update you should

802
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 2: leave him because he doesn't care about your feelings. Boom,

803
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:12,880
Speaker 2: you just said it.

804
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:16,239
Speaker 1: And I think it's like you've had multiple conversations about

805
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:18,880
Speaker 1: this and he turns it back on your consistently, like

806
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:21,880
Speaker 1: there's there's been no there's been no give, there's been

807
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 1: only take, It's been only take. I'm not feeling good

808
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 1: about this relationship. Also, I'm going to turn on the

809
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:27,399
Speaker 1: AC really quick.

810
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:30,320
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh your little ferte over there. Oh wait, no,

811
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:37,839
Speaker 2: that's strong tango colore hase color. I don't think wait, okay,

812
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:39,840
Speaker 2: but the friend is no better for enabling his behavior

813
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:40,680
Speaker 2: knowing he's taken.

814
00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 1: Yeah.

815
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:43,440
Speaker 2: I mean, look, this is just maybe this guy is

816
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:47,160
Speaker 2: like actually so wrapped up from this like first love scenario,

817
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:50,440
Speaker 2: like he can't even tell or be honest with himself

818
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:54,200
Speaker 2: that he is clearly like in love with this woman. Still,

819
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:56,919
Speaker 2: maybe there's a part of him that does know it. Regardless,

820
00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:00,400
Speaker 2: I think clearly his actions are telling you which person

821
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:03,759
Speaker 2: in his life he's prioritizing. And if it's been a

822
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 2: repeated conversation that hey, this is how I feel, and

823
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:10,160
Speaker 2: he goes, I don't really care though, because I'm not

824
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:13,360
Speaker 2: letting how you feel get in between me and my

825
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:16,920
Speaker 2: friend quote unquote, then like you you then he's choosing her.

826
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:20,920
Speaker 2: So it's you know, there it is. He's told you. Oh,

827
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:22,160
Speaker 2: all right, we have an update.

828
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:24,240
Speaker 1: Dude, let's get into this update. I'm ready.

829
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:26,400
Speaker 2: A lot of people are going to be disappointed in

830
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:30,319
Speaker 2: this update. We're still together. No, why do you when

831
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 2: you know that I'm upset? Why are you doing that

832
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 2: when you know that? So you know, he told me

833
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:39,960
Speaker 2: my feelings were valid and agreed we needed to make

834
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 2: some changes. A lot of people are under the impression

835
00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:43,839
Speaker 2: that he doesn't help me at all and that he's

836
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 2: completely absent from the kids and my life. That's not true.

837
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:51,799
Speaker 2: I just yeah, yeah, he's God, there's kids.

838
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 1: There's kids. There's kids.

839
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:53,959
Speaker 2: There's two kids.

840
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 1: Dude, all right, but hey, at least he's maybe the

841
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:58,920
Speaker 1: consolation that things need to shake. Maybe we can Maybe

842
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:00,920
Speaker 1: this is a start, Maybe we can get somewhere with us.

843
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:04,319
Speaker 2: He's not completely absent. I just meant that it's not

844
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:07,600
Speaker 2: a fifty to fifty split. He could definitely do more,

845
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:10,120
Speaker 2: and he has acknowledged that. He also admits that he

846
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:12,920
Speaker 2: was initially defensive about the situation. He thought about it

847
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 2: a lot and realized that I was right that while

848
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 2: it's not inappropriate for him to have a female friend,

849
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 2: he did take it too far. He has since stopped

850
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 2: commenting on her appearance entirely. He has limited contact with

851
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:26,880
Speaker 2: her and backed off. I also confronted her, which I

852
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 2: initially felt bad about, but now I don't. She insists

853
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:32,600
Speaker 2: they are just old friends and she sees him as

854
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 2: more of an older brother. However, when I stated that

855
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:38,120
Speaker 2: things were inappropriate and that boundaries needed to be set,

856
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:40,360
Speaker 2: she did not agree. She said she never heard of

857
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 2: a healthy relationship with boundaries.

858
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 1: That is literally the basis of every healthy relationship. Get

859
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:47,480
Speaker 1: the heck out of here.

860
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:48,520
Speaker 2: I'm speechless.

861
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:49,239
Speaker 1: So is it her?

862
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:51,760
Speaker 2: Is it really hasn't been her? Maybe she's been leading

863
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:54,920
Speaker 2: him on him along and she's really been doing sob

864
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:58,920
Speaker 2: story booho. My fiance doesn't think I'm I'm the ugliest

865
00:37:59,000 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 2: particle in the set.

866
00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 1: I think she's definitely. She's definitely playing. She's playing some

867
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:07,320
Speaker 1: sort of game. She should go listen to Weezer, she

868
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:10,000
Speaker 1: should go it should go to the Island the Sun together.

869
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:11,839
Speaker 2: Get that Caliday, because that's the name of the song,

870
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:14,200
Speaker 2: thank You, Thank You Chat. I can't remember which Kimberly

871
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:16,480
Speaker 2: was the one that said that thanks, Kim Fine.

872
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:18,800
Speaker 1: Kim fine, dude, always with the Zingers, Okay.

873
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 2: She continued that boundaries are something you set for children,

874
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:24,879
Speaker 2: not your partner. So I decided I don't like her.

875
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 2: She tried to play it off super nice afterwards and

876
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 2: say things like I hope that we work out blah

877
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:31,480
Speaker 2: blah blah blah blah. That statement is just a huge

878
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 2: red flag to me. Yes, I'm now looking at the

879
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 2: signs and I'm pretty sure she's using him. Oh, your

880
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 2: husband is a Golden Retriever. Oh, I'm happy though, I'm

881
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:43,280
Speaker 2: so happy. Yay. If your husband's a golden Retriever, Yay.

882
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:46,840
Speaker 2: I was wrong. He just got manipulated so hard.

883
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:48,440
Speaker 1: Do you think that's true?

884
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:49,319
Speaker 2: I hope it is.

885
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 1: I hope it is.

886
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:52,560
Speaker 2: Oh that makes me feel good inside if he is

887
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:53,319
Speaker 2: a Golden.

888
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:55,239
Speaker 1: Retriever, man, golden Retriever. But also like, I don't know,

889
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:57,680
Speaker 1: this is amagine look the smoke show comments.

890
00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:00,520
Speaker 2: I'm playing this out of my head. She's game, like,

891
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:03,560
Speaker 2: you know, he has coalesced into times like all right,

892
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:05,680
Speaker 2: I had feelings whatever. She was just there for me

893
00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:07,759
Speaker 2: as a good friend. She was there for me right,

894
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:09,719
Speaker 2: she helped me in when I was at a low

895
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:12,799
Speaker 2: low point and I got my feelings crossed. Now she

896
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:15,279
Speaker 2: is a place where maybe her husband is absent from

897
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:17,640
Speaker 2: her life, maybe she doesn't feel too great about herself,

898
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 2: and hey, who was that guy who was in love

899
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 2: with me before?

900
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:22,040
Speaker 1: And maybe me feel good about myself.

901
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:24,960
Speaker 2: Maybe I can get this guy back in my life. Mm.

902
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:28,279
Speaker 2: And I don't care because I just want what's good

903
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 2: for me. But I know I want what I want.

904
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 1: I just want that affection. I want to feel good.

905
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:34,000
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna go to him and say boo boo.

906
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 1: Boo, and he's gonna be He's gonna give that golden

907
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:37,960
Speaker 1: retriever edergy, right. I don't know. I don't know if

908
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 1: he's completely not at fault.

909
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:42,879
Speaker 2: I mean, here's what right before, if your partner comes

910
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:45,920
Speaker 2: to you and goes, hey, this is making me feel bad,

911
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:48,959
Speaker 2: you need to go, oh, let's let's okay, let's figure

912
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:50,520
Speaker 2: out it wasn't his immediate react. Right.

913
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:53,040
Speaker 1: So that is bad, but I am glad it's getting better,

914
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:56,560
Speaker 1: but it's still I don't know. I feel like absolving

915
00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:59,200
Speaker 1: him for all this, because like, oh, he's just a

916
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:00,920
Speaker 1: gleeful idiot, is like it does.

917
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:03,560
Speaker 2: It doesn't completely absolve him, because that's still bad. It's

918
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:05,520
Speaker 2: like you don't want to date a little man baby,

919
00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:08,480
Speaker 2: but like it makes him not like outwardly like what's

920
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:09,840
Speaker 2: it called nefarious?

921
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:12,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, nefarious?

922
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:14,880
Speaker 2: You want to date a buffoon or a nefarious fan.

923
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:18,399
Speaker 1: No, I'm not even completely sure it's not nefarious. I'm

924
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 1: curious what you guys think. You are you more in

925
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 1: that he was in on it or he's a golden

926
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:26,040
Speaker 1: retriever that's just like dumb. I would love to know

927
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:27,719
Speaker 1: what you guys think. But let's let's see where the

928
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:28,319
Speaker 1: story goes.

929
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:30,600
Speaker 2: So I'm looking at the signs, and I'm pretty sure

930
00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:33,960
Speaker 2: she was using him. My husband doesn't see it that way.

931
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 2: He says he's never been in a real relationship. She

932
00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:39,520
Speaker 2: doesn't understand that boundaries are normal and healthy. So now

933
00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 2: it's making a lot more sense why she's still single. Wait,

934
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 2: I thought there was a fiance. I thought she had

935
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:46,200
Speaker 2: a partner who was absent.

936
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 1: That's what I thought too.

937
00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:49,760
Speaker 2: That's what the husband said. That's why he was gassing

938
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:53,799
Speaker 2: her up dingas Bot's dead right now? Okay, okay, there's

939
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:56,239
Speaker 2: nothing wrong with being single. I might be here soon

940
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 2: if these changes don't stick. I know a lot of

941
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:01,080
Speaker 2: you guys don't believe he's not cheating on me. Some

942
00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:03,279
Speaker 2: of you believe it's only because she won't put out.

943
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:05,799
Speaker 2: There's no way to convince you guys otherwise. After all,

944
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:07,840
Speaker 2: you don't have all the information. It's really hard to

945
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:10,440
Speaker 2: figure out what's relevant in things like this. Him going

946
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:14,040
Speaker 2: too hard with helping people is not a new thing. Okay,

947
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 2: that is a point towards Golden Retriever, that is, and

948
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:18,759
Speaker 2: that's a very important little piece of information. It's a

949
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:19,840
Speaker 2: very important piece.

950
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:23,920
Speaker 1: Now with that new information, I am leaning Golden Retriever

951
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 1: a little more, a little more.

952
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:28,400
Speaker 2: My perfect perspective would be like, he's just like I

953
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:31,440
Speaker 2: got to pay her back for the emotional support she

954
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:33,239
Speaker 2: gave me, and then I messed it up.

955
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:34,920
Speaker 1: I can fix it. I can see it. I can

956
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:36,960
Speaker 1: I can see the Golden Retriever a little bit more now.

957
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:40,359
Speaker 1: But I'm still not completely completely Still he's still made

958
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 1: a mistake. He still did something.

959
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, being a buffoon does not absolve you of

960
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 2: but it makes you more forgivet responsibility makes you Yeah,

961
00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 2: it makes you not actively malicious. Trust me, you wouldn't

962
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 2: believe how much we've spent on his little brother. Yeah,

963
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:55,840
Speaker 2: I know that's not great. Can't blame him entirely. We

964
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:58,040
Speaker 2: both come from families that have always struggled, and we

965
00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 2: feel lucky that, even though we came from horror households,

966
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:03,480
Speaker 2: my parents and his mother would definitely help us in

967
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:06,880
Speaker 2: any way they could, and he loves to pay that forward. Honestly,

968
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:10,279
Speaker 2: I love how much he cares about others. Yeah, the

969
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:12,520
Speaker 2: world would be a better place if we helped each other,

970
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:15,839
Speaker 2: but not everyone needs our help. His friend has other resources.

971
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:18,279
Speaker 2: He can still give her a ride home sometimes, as

972
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:21,320
Speaker 2: she does live very close. It hasn't been long enough

973
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:24,279
Speaker 2: to really test the waters. He hasn't seen her since

974
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:26,319
Speaker 2: all this went down, and I don't know how I'll

975
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:29,360
Speaker 2: feel the first time he does. Honestly, while I don't

976
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:31,719
Speaker 2: like her, it feels good that my husband has set

977
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:34,440
Speaker 2: boundaries with her. He took my side when she said

978
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 2: boundaries weren't healthy in a relationship. He knows I wish

979
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:39,359
Speaker 2: she disappeared from our lives forever, and he said, if

980
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:41,400
Speaker 2: it comes down to it, that that's what will happen.

981
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:44,080
Speaker 2: But he's asking for one more chance to just rework

982
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:46,480
Speaker 2: the friendship into a healthy one. A few times we

983
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:48,680
Speaker 2: all hung out, we got along, even had a good time.

984
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:50,759
Speaker 2: At this moment, I don't know her well enough, and

985
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:53,200
Speaker 2: he's known her for a very long time, so I

986
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:55,759
Speaker 2: should probably trust that he knows her better than me,

987
00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:59,240
Speaker 2: and that maybe she's not a terrible person. At this moment,

988
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:01,920
Speaker 2: though my experience with her has not been great. The

989
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:03,960
Speaker 2: only way I'm going to change my mind about her

990
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:07,160
Speaker 2: is through time. We'll see if he keeps up these

991
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:09,960
Speaker 2: boundaries and promises he's made. So far, he has, but

992
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:13,359
Speaker 2: it's only been like two days, which is nowhere near

993
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:15,960
Speaker 2: enough time to know if that's gonna stick. No. I

994
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:18,800
Speaker 2: also talk to one of his friends who's a licensed therapist.

995
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 2: Since we don't have insurance, he has offered to help

996
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:23,520
Speaker 2: us talk it out. What a nice guy. My husband

997
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:25,839
Speaker 2: has turned this down in the past, but this time

998
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:29,359
Speaker 2: has agreed. Another good sign for husband. My husband also

999
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:31,960
Speaker 2: gets roped into a lot of contractor type jobs for

1000
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:35,279
Speaker 2: family members, which is another reason he's not home as

1001
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:36,080
Speaker 2: often as I am.

1002
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:38,680
Speaker 1: Wait, so like he's like he's helping out family.

1003
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:40,720
Speaker 2: I guess he's got some skills to pay the bills,

1004
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:43,040
Speaker 2: and some people are like, all my plumbing fixed, and

1005
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:44,200
Speaker 2: he's like, I'm gonna come over and do.

1006
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:47,760
Speaker 1: That for free. Yeah, Yeah, God for the family, Golden

1007
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:49,400
Speaker 1: Retriever energy.

1008
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:53,000
Speaker 2: He's going to start taking our son with him more

1009
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 2: often when he does these jobs, which is good teach

1010
00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:59,160
Speaker 2: your son's skills. We have a double date this weekend

1011
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:01,239
Speaker 2: with one of my friends, and I will say, even

1012
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:03,319
Speaker 2: before this post, he was trying to pull me out

1013
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:05,359
Speaker 2: of the house more. It's hard when you have young

1014
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:07,799
Speaker 2: kids and no one to help out. His mom is

1015
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:11,719
Speaker 2: sick with the big sea. Can my parents work full

1016
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:14,640
Speaker 2: time and all of us just live paycheck to paycheck.

1017
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:16,759
Speaker 2: Me and my husband both work full time as well.

1018
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:19,319
Speaker 2: I work remotely, so I stay home. We have one

1019
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:21,799
Speaker 2: car and I don't drive. Sometimes you get set up

1020
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:23,759
Speaker 2: in a rut and it's really hard to get out.

1021
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:27,160
Speaker 2: My point is he is not a bad guy. He

1022
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:28,080
Speaker 2: does love me.

1023
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:31,680
Speaker 1: Where again where I more and more points for Golden Retriever.

1024
00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:34,359
Speaker 1: Dakota saw it first, I'd see it. I didn't see

1025
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:36,840
Speaker 1: it initially, but I'm feeling the Golden Retriever.

1026
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:38,759
Speaker 2: The point is being, he's not a bad guy. He

1027
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:41,319
Speaker 2: does love me, and he's shown me that over and

1028
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:44,840
Speaker 2: over again. We all struggle. I think it's important to

1029
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:47,239
Speaker 2: remember your partner is not your enemy, and while you

1030
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:49,840
Speaker 2: can't always avoid a fight, it helps to remember most

1031
00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:52,960
Speaker 2: of us just want our feelings validated. And we have

1032
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:56,800
Speaker 2: a second update to your people. Should we just go ahead,

1033
00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:59,000
Speaker 2: oop and dive in.

1034
00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:01,440
Speaker 1: I think, just hit it all right, let's get it.

1035
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:05,399
Speaker 1: I'm hoping that we have some therapy. He cuts off

1036
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:08,480
Speaker 1: this relationship with this woman that's obviously manipulating him, and

1037
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 1: we have more evidence of the golden retriever behavior. That's

1038
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:12,319
Speaker 1: what I'm hoping. That's what I'm hoping.

1039
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:14,719
Speaker 2: Also, guys, I don't think ope he's being ghastly by

1040
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 2: her partner right here. I think with the background information

1041
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:19,960
Speaker 2: we just got, but his upbringing came up in a

1042
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 2: poor household, wants to constantly give to the people in

1043
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:25,960
Speaker 2: his life, like his family and his friends. Pattison is

1044
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:28,439
Speaker 2: to be able to support people conditional love.

1045
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:30,920
Speaker 1: What do you mean by that, Padis? I don't know.

1046
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:34,839
Speaker 1: The Badpool girl says, oh, pee, the gaslight really makes

1047
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:35,800
Speaker 1: your eyes sparkle.

1048
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:37,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. It's like, I don't feel like,

1049
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:40,439
Speaker 2: you know earlier I was, I was like, oh man,

1050
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:42,759
Speaker 2: but given the rest of the information she told us,

1051
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:45,080
Speaker 2: it just does feel like but look, your partner comes

1052
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:48,279
Speaker 2: to you, he says, Hey, this thing's fundamentally like upsetting me.

1053
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:51,279
Speaker 2: You need to immediately put that under the microscope and go,

1054
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:53,080
Speaker 2: all right, what do we do to do address this?

1055
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:55,040
Speaker 2: Don't just be like, ah, well, you can't make me

1056
00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:56,240
Speaker 2: do that. I'll be upset.

1057
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:58,799
Speaker 1: She's upset. But let's see where this update goes. I

1058
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:01,600
Speaker 1: am excited. I hope. Hey it's sam og host. We're

1059
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:04,239
Speaker 1: gonnet back to these delectable stories. But here's three minutes

1060
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:06,200
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1061
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:07,880
Speaker 1: This can be redeemed.

1062
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:11,200
Speaker 2: Okay. Update two, she still doesn't have a car. I

1063
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:13,319
Speaker 2: let him take her to a doctor's appointment. I think

1064
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:21,760
Speaker 2: my marriage is over. The golden retriever chases the stick

1065
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:24,920
Speaker 2: once ago, No, no, why did you.

1066
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:27,279
Speaker 1: Let him go? Or I guess maybe he asked, And

1067
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:29,279
Speaker 1: now she's like, all right, just go, just go.

1068
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 2: Nothing happened and he wasn't even gone long. But I

1069
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:36,839
Speaker 2: realized I'm not okay with this. I hate this. I'm

1070
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:39,800
Speaker 2: trying to be rational and I'm a big supporter of compromise,

1071
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:43,000
Speaker 2: but I can't compromise on this one. Unfortunately, we have

1072
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:45,440
Speaker 2: a lot going on right now, so I just have

1073
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:49,400
Speaker 2: to pretend I'm okay. No, don't do no, no, no,

1074
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:54,759
Speaker 2: don't do that. Tell your partner this is unacceptable. What

1075
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:55,279
Speaker 2: are we doing?

1076
00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:57,960
Speaker 3: You remember when he said though he's gonna get mad

1077
00:46:58,080 --> 00:46:58,839
Speaker 3: gep getting back?

1078
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:04,439
Speaker 1: Then a little mad? A little mad? Also, Badpool girl

1079
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:08,560
Speaker 1: says doctor appointment way too intimate? Yeah, I think that's yeah.

1080
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:10,720
Speaker 2: Does she not know that the bus is an option?

1081
00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:14,680
Speaker 2: Who excuse a woman who doesn't know exist?

1082
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:16,480
Speaker 1: Get on like a city bike?

1083
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:19,839
Speaker 2: Did you know you have legs? Theoretically? I don't know

1084
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Speaker 2: really if you have legs in this.

1085
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:23,280
Speaker 1: Story, but good wheel Wheel like FDR.

1086
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:28,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, even FDR without legs ran a country that worked.

1087
00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:29,719
Speaker 1: Look, this is.

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00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:32,200
Speaker 2: Getting off topic and I'm sounding like a piece of

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00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:35,800
Speaker 2: crap right now. Damn I got got by the Golden Retriever.

1090
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:37,359
Speaker 1: But let's hit it. Let's hit this.

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00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:40,040
Speaker 2: By the way, you don't have to pretend that there

1092
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:43,520
Speaker 2: are full episodes with stories just like this on Spotify

1093
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:46,640
Speaker 2: and iHeartRadio and Apple podcasts and wherever you listen to podcasts.

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00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:49,239
Speaker 2: All you have to do is search. Okay, story time

1095
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 2: and you can listen to over two thousand of them.

1096
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:52,399
Speaker 1: Get it.

1097
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:55,000
Speaker 2: Let's get into the rest of the story. Okay, we

1098
00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:58,399
Speaker 2: have a couple of events to go through first. After that, though,

1099
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:00,759
Speaker 2: I'm telling him, one way or another, she will be

1100
00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:03,319
Speaker 2: out of my life, and if he needs her in his,

1101
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:06,439
Speaker 2: he can do it without me. Tell him that immediately.

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00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 2: I just can't force myself to keep it together. I

1103
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:11,040
Speaker 2: want to wake him up right now, I do it.

1104
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:13,879
Speaker 2: I hate this so much. My life is crumbling. Why

1105
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:16,719
Speaker 2: couldn't he just choose me? She doesn't even like him.

1106
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:19,000
Speaker 2: I can't believe I'm losing him to a fantasy that

1107
00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:20,920
Speaker 2: will never be. He told me he would choose me

1108
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:22,600
Speaker 2: if I made him, But I have a feeling this

1109
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:24,760
Speaker 2: is the end. That can't be the end of that story.

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00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:25,760
Speaker 2: That's the end of that story.

1111
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:29,359
Speaker 1: Also, like that framing I'll choose you if you make

1112
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:33,560
Speaker 1: me is really like you choosing the other person. Right,

1113
00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:38,080
Speaker 1: Like he's choosing he's willing to risk his wife, putting

1114
00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:41,160
Speaker 1: up an ultimatum right to preserve something that he knows

1115
00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:43,960
Speaker 1: makes his wife uncomfortable. Right, it's over. It's over.

1116
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:48,040
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna choose you until I absolutely have to.

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00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:50,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, which is ridiculous. It's like you're putting your you're

1118
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:53,319
Speaker 1: putting pain into your partner. This is awful. But I

1119
00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:55,879
Speaker 1: think that's where that story and this episode ends.

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Speaker 3: I'm just seeing if there's anything else.

1121
00:48:57,440 --> 00:49:00,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, there is there a freaking happy ending. I'm trying

1122
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:00,880
Speaker 1: to find it.

1123
00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:05,840
Speaker 2: Oh oh boy, oh boy, I'm so mad.

1124
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:06,640
Speaker 1: I'm mad.

1125
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:09,440
Speaker 2: I'm so mad. He tricked me. I got tricked.

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00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:10,439
Speaker 1: We thought he was golden.

1127
00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:12,239
Speaker 2: It was a tag team. He thought he was gold

1128
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:13,800
Speaker 2: But he's maybe he tricked me.

1129
00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:17,120
Speaker 1: Maybe he's a description retriever and now he's just Waggon's

1130
00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:18,240
Speaker 1: tail fallowing her again.

1131
00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:20,600
Speaker 2: You know, dude, you can have a golden retriever, but

1132
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:24,720
Speaker 2: like you, we all know my opinion on poorly trained dogs.

1133
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:27,680
Speaker 2: You got a trainer, they're always going to be more

1134
00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:29,520
Speaker 2: annoying to me than cute. Always.

1135
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:33,080
Speaker 1: He's not golden retriever. He's nice guy. Yeah. I think

1136
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:34,000
Speaker 1: that's actually more true.

1137
00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:37,160
Speaker 3: It's just someone saying like, oh, this girl, how could

1138
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:40,839
Speaker 3: she not have her here? Like a healthy relationship kind

1139
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:43,480
Speaker 3: of thing. And O P replies with, Yeah, he definitely

1140
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:45,680
Speaker 3: acknowledged that it was over the top. However, I can't

1141
00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:48,319
Speaker 3: say he wouldn't do that to a guy friend loves

1142
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:49,600
Speaker 3: to hype his guy friends too.

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00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:52,600
Speaker 1: It's just like h so like like she's kind of

1144
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:54,520
Speaker 1: doubling down on the Golden Receever thing.

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00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:57,880
Speaker 2: It's a golden Retriever, like we can't there's a comment

1146
00:49:57,880 --> 00:49:59,799
Speaker 2: of here, he needs to be a Golden Retriever for

1147
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:00,720
Speaker 2: you only.

1148
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:02,600
Speaker 1: I don't think that's true. I don't think that's true.

1149
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Speaker 1: I don't think a golden Retriever has to be a

1150
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:06,640
Speaker 1: golden I feel like that golden Retriever energy gets spread

1151
00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:09,120
Speaker 1: around to a bunch of different people. But if him

1152
00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:11,719
Speaker 1: being a Golden Retriever comes at the expense of your

1153
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:15,040
Speaker 1: happiness and also is crossing boundaries in your relationship, then.

1154
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:17,120
Speaker 2: That he's being a bad dog to you. He's being

1155
00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:19,080
Speaker 2: a bad dog to you, good dog to everyone else.

1156
00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:21,759
Speaker 1: Golden Retrievers are more loyal than this guy. And hey,

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Speaker 1: I want to know what you guys think. Is this

1158
00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:26,160
Speaker 1: guy golden Retriever or is he just a bad husband?

1159
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:29,719
Speaker 1: Or is he both? Is he manipulative? Is he I

1160
00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:32,320
Speaker 1: don't know, like a little little evil behind the scenes.

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Speaker 1: Let us know what you think. But that is where

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Speaker 1: this story and this episode ends. So If you love us,

1163
00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:42,400
Speaker 1: make sure to subscribe We Love You, and see it

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