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Speaker 1: Hey, Welcome into the world famous Hoddle Dave Wyman, Michael

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Speaker 1: bump Us, bump How you doing? Man? This up? Dave.

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Speaker 1: I'm doing good man. How are you? I'm good man.

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Speaker 1: I just taped something in Seattle, and you know, I

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Speaker 1: mapped my home and I was playing beat the clock

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Speaker 1: the whole way. It was great. I got shaved it

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Speaker 1: down to eleven fifty five and see Roger, I'm sure

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Speaker 1: was just thrilled to have me texting him. I got

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Speaker 1: it down to fifty seven. I got it down to

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Speaker 1: fifty six. It's fifty five. But it's you and me

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Speaker 1: because Jake is a little under the weather, Stacy is

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Speaker 1: on vacation, and it's me and bump with the huddle.

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Speaker 1: We've got John Boyle coming up from Seahawks dot Com,

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Speaker 1: and then we're gonna go in the trenches with Ray Robert.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Ray Roberts. And then we've got a couple

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Speaker 1: of players, um, Damian Lewis and Kolbe Parkinson who were

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Speaker 1: going to join us. And then we have Steve Rabel.

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Speaker 1: He's going to be on the phone, and then we'll

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Speaker 1: just do an opponent preview and just final thoughts. But

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Speaker 1: before we get get into that bump. What about what

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Speaker 1: did you see the other night? It was, you know,

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Speaker 1: twenty to ten loss to the Rams. Russell looked a

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Speaker 1: little bit off with some of his deep throws. He

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Speaker 1: didn't have Tyler Lockett, didn't have Alex Collins. And I'll

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Speaker 1: ask you this question first, bomb, how much do you

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Speaker 1: think how much of a difference not having Tyler Lockett?

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Speaker 1: How much did that make? Yeah, Dave, I think that

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Speaker 1: was a big difference, man. I mean, he's the one

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Speaker 1: guy that when all those fails, is going to make

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Speaker 1: a big play. Now, there's other guys on this team

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Speaker 1: who have big playability, obviously, DK, I think Gerald Everett does.

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Speaker 1: I even think d Eskas has a dating. He almost

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Speaker 1: made a big play late in the game. But when

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Speaker 1: you really need something to happen and you have to

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Speaker 1: force a football to somebody and pray that they come

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Speaker 1: down with it, number sixteen is a guy. So I

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Speaker 1: think that's what they were missing. And I think for

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Speaker 1: the first time, maybe not for the first time, but

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Speaker 1: as of late the twelve and people around the country

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Speaker 1: really started to see how valuable Tyler Lockett is to

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Speaker 1: his offense. Man, there's no big plays being man out

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Speaker 1: there without him. Yeah, and then the other thing was,

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Speaker 1: you know, Russ was fifty five percent as far as

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Speaker 1: his completion percentage, and he had been up in the

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Speaker 1: seventies and you know, he's always in the high sixties,

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Speaker 1: and for him to have that kind of night, he

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Speaker 1: was just a little bit off. And a lot of

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Speaker 1: those a couple of deep throats were off. I know,

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Speaker 1: one he got his hand hit, which would have been

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Speaker 1: a touchdown. It looked like a DK metcalf and it

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Speaker 1: ended up flailing up in the air and m Gerald

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Speaker 1: Everett was able to come back and grab it. But

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Speaker 1: you could see DK he had Jalen Ramsey beat and

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Speaker 1: if that, you know, if von Miller doesn't hit Russ's arm,

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Speaker 1: you know, maybe that's a touchdown there. And yeah, so

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Speaker 1: it was just, um, I felt like and I think

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Speaker 1: around the country people don't appreciate the connection with Russ

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Speaker 1: and Tyler Lockett. It's it's like it is with Doug Baldwin.

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Speaker 1: It is it's like Matthew Stafford and Cooper up. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 1: and you know, you go back to Matt Hasselback and

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Speaker 1: d Jack and you know, so you I'm sure nobody

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Speaker 1: could talk about that better than you of having that

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Speaker 1: connection with your quarterback. It's it's key if you're a

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Speaker 1: wide receiver. Yeah, it's special. Man. I didn't I didn't

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Speaker 1: play long enough in the league to develop a connection

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Speaker 1: with Matt Hasselback or any other quarterbacks there. But when

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Speaker 1: I was in college, Alex Brink was my quarterback, and

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Speaker 1: I mean we had a connection that was crazy, Like

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Speaker 1: he'd get blitz, I changed my route. He knows exactly

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Speaker 1: what I'm gonna do, third and long, third and short.

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Speaker 1: He knew he can toss it up to me. I

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Speaker 1: over time. I think people don't respect the connection between

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Speaker 1: Russell Wilson and Tyler Lockett enough because it's such a

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Speaker 1: humble connection, you know what I mean, Like it's it's

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Speaker 1: holding my breath. I'm like, come on, get up, and

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Speaker 1: then he has to do what I used to do

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Speaker 1: as fast as you can. And I honestly, Dave, I

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Speaker 1: think for the first time like he played a game

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Speaker 1: when he was sore. You know, he carried the ball

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Speaker 1: how that grind is man and wears in your body

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Speaker 1: in that running back position is so tough, so there

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Speaker 1: were opportunities there. I still think he ran the ball well,

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Speaker 1: impress you, but I still think he applied enough pressure

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Speaker 1: more years hopefully. So the running game has always been tricky.

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Speaker 1: This year with all the moving Parson on the offensive line,

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Speaker 1: relying on guys who have never done it. So Rashad Penny,

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Speaker 1: I'm glad he made it through the game injury free

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Speaker 1: think he felt it. You know, one of the few

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Speaker 1: the NFL, you realize, bump that everybody wants to kill you,

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Speaker 1: you know that, And honestly, being a linebacker, it's like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I still think it's a mystery about Rashad Penny. Well,

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Speaker 1: we'll see how he plays against a really good and

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Speaker 1: we'll get into it at the opponent preview, but a

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Speaker 1: really good defense. I mean, at least they they've got

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Speaker 1: they're top ten in total yards, they're they're top ten

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Speaker 1: defense with the with the Chicago Bears coming up. But um, yeah.

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Speaker 1: The other the other big mystery to me was Carlos Dunlap.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he gets three sacks and I was looking

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Speaker 1: at his reps lately bomping. You know, it's not like

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Speaker 1: he's had a ton of them. I mean he's averaging

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Speaker 1: it's a it's a weird situation with Dunlap. Right. Last

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Speaker 1: think it's a load management type thing with Carlos Dunlap

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Speaker 1: what's happening in the film room that makes them say, Okay,

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Speaker 1: end the season though, because he's had three sacks, the

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Speaker 1: first Seahawks to do that since twenty fifteen. Michael Bennett,

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Speaker 1: I think we got to see more of them, man.

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Speaker 1: I mean, this is you're you're not gonna save the season.

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Speaker 1: The chances of the Hawks making the playoffs is extremely low.

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Speaker 1: But you want to end the season with a bang.

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Speaker 1: Let this man get loose and do what he does. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know that it's interesting. We talked to him on

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Speaker 1: And the other thing you're saying what the defensive lineman

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Speaker 1: But in this situation, I think it's gonna be interesting

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Speaker 1: you know that they're guaranteed of losing season. They're not

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Speaker 1: going to make the playoffs. But you know, that's a

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Speaker 1: learn a lot about some of these players on this team. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you're playing for pride now, man, pride in reputation. You know,

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Speaker 1: you made a point. I think I was maybe a

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Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago you said you were playing when

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Speaker 1: when the teams were weren't performing, you weren't that good.

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Speaker 1: You're not making the playoffs. You're playing for your reputation,

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Speaker 1: and you appreciate it when another linebacker will come up

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Speaker 1: to you and say, man, you're having a good season. Man,

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Speaker 1: I see you on film. You know it comes down

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Speaker 1: to pride at this point. Yeah, you're not gonna make

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Speaker 1: the playoffs, but who are you as a person and

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Speaker 1: as a man. And then these guys who are on

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Speaker 1: the bubble who are playing for contracts? Now you're playing

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Speaker 1: for other teams. Right, If you're not gonna play here,

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Speaker 1: hopefully you're playing somewhere else. You gotta put your resume

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Speaker 1: on film, all right, coming up next? Yeah, you're right

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Speaker 1: bump about that. You know, it's it's yours. You know

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Speaker 1: what you put on tape, that's you, man, that's that's

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Speaker 1: your trade. This is what you do for a living,

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Speaker 1: so you know that that's something that that I know.

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Speaker 1: They've got a lot of a lot of proud guys,

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Speaker 1: especially you know, some of the veterans, like like Dwayne Brown,

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Speaker 1: Bobby wagon Er, Quandary Gigs. I mean, those guys are there,

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Speaker 1: their planning to show everybody around the league. And that's

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Speaker 1: all I cared about. I didn't care much about the fans.

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Speaker 1: so maybe we can. Maybe we can ask Ray about

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Speaker 1: other positions or maybe his favorite present that he had

428
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Speaker 1: at Christmas time. We'll talk to Big Ray on the huddle.

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Speaker 1: Dave Wyman and Michael bump Us. Welcome back to the huddle.

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Speaker 1: Michael bump Us, Dave Wyman, the world famous huddle and

431
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Speaker 1: one of the reasons why it's world famous, has been

432
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Speaker 1: doing it for a long time, and we've got guys

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Speaker 1: like Ray Roberts. Ray, how you doing, man, I'm doing

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Speaker 1: all right, man, I just wonder which which one of

435
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Speaker 1: you is Jake and which one is Stacy. I'm those

436
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Speaker 1: are the ones I'm used to talking to. Well, let's

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Speaker 1: see Ray you decide, okay, And since I guess I'm

438
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Speaker 1: Stacy because I am actually running the show. But but anyway, Yeah,

439
00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:53,240
Speaker 1: so yeah, Stacy took some time off to go see

440
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Speaker 1: her family. I think Jake's a little under the weather.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, we're we got the uh, we've got three

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Speaker 1: X players running the show. Man. It's it's a good

443
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Speaker 1: thing that yeah, absolutely exactly. Well, right, what did you think?

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Speaker 1: You know, we've been talking a little bit about the

445
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Speaker 1: run game, and I know that's been a very popular subject.

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Speaker 1: But I thought, you know, when my comment was Rashod

447
00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:19,840
Speaker 1: Penny looked, you know, okay, and then you know, when

448
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Speaker 1: you got DJ Dallas in there, he looked really good.

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Speaker 1: And uh, but you know, I kind of came to

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Speaker 1: the conclusion but that the offensive line had a pretty

451
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Speaker 1: good day because they were blown some pretty big holes

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Speaker 1: open in that defensive line. Yeah. Well, first of all,

453
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Speaker 1: let me just complain about the NFL game pass because

454
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Speaker 1: it makes it really hard yes to watch, to watch

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Speaker 1: the film the way you want too, So I'm just

456
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Speaker 1: gonna put that out there so it's in the airways,

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Speaker 1: FL network or whoever runs that thing can understand. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: I would agree, Dave. The thing that was interesting to

459
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Speaker 1: me was that with this defensive line that they've used,

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Speaker 1: they've always had trouble with. It didn't matter you know,

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Speaker 1: what offensive line was here, maybe Walton, those guys were different,

462
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Speaker 1: but they have always had trouble with this, with the

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Speaker 1: with the rams off de becausive line. So when I

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Speaker 1: was watching film yesterday and then again this morning, man,

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Speaker 1: they were our offensive line was opening up a lot

466
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Speaker 1: of huge running lanes, and uh and and Penny and

467
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Speaker 1: and uh DJ were able to find those running lanes.

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Speaker 1: Unfortunately for Penny, he had at least two ten yard

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Speaker 1: carries that were called back because of holding calls from

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Speaker 1: Damian Lewis. So Damian Lewis probably cost him another probably

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Speaker 1: another twenty or thirty yards. Those were first down runs

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Speaker 1: and it would have been second and short, so there's

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Speaker 1: a chance they would have handed it to him again,

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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So so there's there was

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Speaker 1: a real chance for Penny to have anywhere between like

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Speaker 1: you know, sixty seven or eighty yards rushing, and then

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Speaker 1: if he was able to break one, he could have

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Speaker 1: gotten under yard mark. The very first play of the game,

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Speaker 1: when they ran the ball, he was literally one step

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Speaker 1: away from taking it to the house because they opened

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Speaker 1: up such a huge lane that the safety was the

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Speaker 1: last guy he had to beat, and the safety was

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Speaker 1: able to make the tackle. So the thing I really

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Speaker 1: like about the offensive line, and I said this a

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Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago, is that this is the time

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Speaker 1: of the season where you just have to grind a

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Speaker 1: little harder, strain a little harder, you know, move a

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Speaker 1: little quicker, and then had the unbelievable will to finish.

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Speaker 1: And that's what I see in the offensive line, especially

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Speaker 1: in that game. If you look at Jake Kerrin, he

491
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Speaker 1: is not the world's greatest athlete at the right tackle spot,

492
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Speaker 1: and he was going up against some dudes he can

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Speaker 1: get after the quarterback, and he was doing just enough

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Speaker 1: to get his job done because he kept finishing. He

495
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Speaker 1: kept trying to finish with his feet, trying to finish

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Speaker 1: in the run games. You know, he was he was

497
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Speaker 1: hell bent on finishing every single play and that helped

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Speaker 1: him be successful in this game. And then I started thinking, Man,

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Speaker 1: if you had Chris Carson healthy and and this Richard Penny,

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Speaker 1: this running game could be one of the tops in

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Speaker 1: the league because they if Rashard could run the way

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Speaker 1: he's run in the hole's hard, fast, and then coming

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Speaker 1: with Chris and all that physicality, it would be something

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Speaker 1: to behold. Big Red. We talked about, or you talked about,

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Speaker 1: how there were gaps of running backs to run through.

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Speaker 1: I also think that this offensive line did a pretty

507
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Speaker 1: good job protecting Russell Wilson going up against Aaron Downald

508
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Speaker 1: or whatnot. And with all the movement that's been on

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Speaker 1: that offensive line, even Postic was out for a couple

510
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Speaker 1: of plays because a finger, you got Kurhan there, Damian

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Speaker 1: Lewis has been injured. Does it make it even that

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Speaker 1: more impressive that they were able to open up these

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Speaker 1: gaps and protect Russell Wilson knowing all the movement pieces

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Speaker 1: on that offensive line. Yeah, absolutely, you know, with the

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Speaker 1: right tackle spot you know been new. Then Postically, I

516
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Speaker 1: think posted hurt his finger, dislocated a finger or something,

517
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Speaker 1: was out for a couple of plays and Fuller came in.

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Speaker 1: But I just think, you know, in the years that

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Speaker 1: I've covered the team and they've played the Rams. It's

520
00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:54,959
Speaker 1: unfortunate they didn't come out with a win. But this

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Speaker 1: is one of the better all around performances from the

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Speaker 1: offensive line all together. And I would even say like

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Speaker 1: a couple of those sacks were on Russell because he

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Speaker 1: was holding the ball you know quite a you know,

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Speaker 1: quite a while. And the unfortunate thing is like a

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Speaker 1: lot of times when we had great protection, we couldn't

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Speaker 1: take advantage of it, you know, with receptions down the field,

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Speaker 1: and that that's the part that's against that team. That's

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Speaker 1: really hard because you're not gonna Russell's not gonna sit

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Speaker 1: back there for three or four seconds very many times

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Speaker 1: against this defensive front. And he was able to do

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Speaker 1: that several times last last week, but wasn't able to

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Speaker 1: um define, really take advantage down the field. So I

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Speaker 1: was super excited about the way the offensive line was playing. Uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, Aaron Donalds, you know it does He's gonna

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Speaker 1: make his plays, dude. This is like, you can keep

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Speaker 1: game planning him however you want. The dude is gonna

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Speaker 1: make plays. Just can't let him wreck the game. And

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Speaker 1: I don't think that he wrecked the game, even though

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Speaker 1: he made some plays. Yeah, that's a that's a good

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Speaker 1: way to put it. He didn't entirely disrupt them. I

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Speaker 1: guess he drew you know. One of the holding penalties

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Speaker 1: I thought was bogus too, because he didn't even see

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Speaker 1: notice it at all. So hey, by the way, we

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Speaker 1: got Damian Lewis uh coming up here and you mentioned him,

546
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Speaker 1: but uh, what would you ask Damian Lewis right if

547
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Speaker 1: you if you got a chance to talk to him,

548
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Speaker 1: because yeah, he's kind of had a little bit of

549
00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:10,760
Speaker 1: an up and down year from what I can see.

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Speaker 1: But what do you think about the season he's had? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I would say that it's been to me, it's been

552
00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:20,239
Speaker 1: a little disappointing just watching him, you know, and uh

553
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Speaker 1: and uh preseason practice in him with Gabe Jackson, I

554
00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:27,000
Speaker 1: remember I took a picture of them too, and I

555
00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:29,359
Speaker 1: just said, hey man, this this might be the top

556
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Speaker 1: guard tendem in the entire league because they just looked

557
00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:34,800
Speaker 1: like they had that thing about him and it just

558
00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:37,439
Speaker 1: hasn't come to fruition. And I think some of it,

559
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Speaker 1: you know, is, uh, you know, Damon just hasn't taken

560
00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:43,560
Speaker 1: that jump from first year to second year, and that

561
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Speaker 1: might be because of you know, some knick nagging injuries

562
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:49,919
Speaker 1: and things. But he, to me, I would want to

563
00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:52,760
Speaker 1: know what does he think, uh is the cause for

564
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Speaker 1: some of the inconsistency because to me, it looks like, uh,

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Speaker 1: he got super strong during the off season and then

566
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:03,920
Speaker 1: and then his game plan with the goal just out

567
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:07,840
Speaker 1: mall and out muscle everybody. But then his technique isn't

568
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:10,200
Speaker 1: all that great, Like his feet stopped too many times

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Speaker 1: in pass detection. Uh, you know, he kind of steps

570
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:18,639
Speaker 1: underneath himself where he overshoots the defensive lineman. So to me,

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00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:21,679
Speaker 1: that is a technique thing. Because he has all the

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Speaker 1: power in the world. He just needs to get his

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Speaker 1: technique locked in so that he can take advantage of

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Speaker 1: that power. It'd be great. Offensively, the Bears aren't great.

575
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:32,640
Speaker 1: They're twenty ninth overall, but defensively they're pretty good. They're

576
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Speaker 1: ranked ninth in Robert Quinn on that defensive line has

577
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Speaker 1: sixteen sacks second week in a row. You're going up

578
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:41,399
Speaker 1: begins a good defensive lineman. How do you how do

579
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:42,960
Speaker 1: you attack this dude? What do you do to slow

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Speaker 1: Robert Quinn down? Well, the slow pass rushers down in general,

581
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:51,000
Speaker 1: you just have to make it noisy, dude. And when

582
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Speaker 1: and when I say naked, make it noisy, that I

583
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:54,600
Speaker 1: mean you're putting your grill on their grill in the

584
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Speaker 1: run game, because those dudes love to just get out

585
00:27:57,440 --> 00:27:59,240
Speaker 1: on the edge and his pass rush time and they

586
00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:01,720
Speaker 1: can just pin their airs back and get after the

587
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:03,800
Speaker 1: get after the quarterback. But if you're able to mix

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Speaker 1: up the run and like the guy from Staley said,

589
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:09,600
Speaker 1: from the charges, you make them have to play the

590
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:11,680
Speaker 1: physical part of the game where they're having to get

591
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:14,760
Speaker 1: off blocks and make tackles and things like that. And

592
00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:16,960
Speaker 1: if you can get the running game going, then I

593
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Speaker 1: think that's how you neutralize pass rushers. I've played against

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Speaker 1: some of the best pass rushers in the history of

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Speaker 1: the game, like I think every probably most of the

596
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:28,080
Speaker 1: top ten to fifteen sacked leaders in the in the

597
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Speaker 1: in the in all time I've played against, and I

598
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:34,760
Speaker 1: can't remember one that wanted to stay in the game

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00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:39,480
Speaker 1: when we were running downhill, Like Dave, you guys know that,

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00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:42,200
Speaker 1: like the tap your helmet, that's the kind of like, hey,

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Speaker 1: I need a break, take me out. I've seen that

602
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:46,280
Speaker 1: a lot when I was blocking with Barry Sanders. I've

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00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:48,080
Speaker 1: seen that a lot when I was blocking for Chris

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Speaker 1: Warren and it was pass rushers that were like, hey, man,

605
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:52,400
Speaker 1: like get me out of here, Like I don't want

606
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:54,520
Speaker 1: to the snot bubble thing. I'm not up for, you

607
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And so I think when you

608
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Speaker 1: have dudes that are that are just high on the

609
00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:02,520
Speaker 1: sad list like that, you just gotta make it noisy, dude.

610
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:06,200
Speaker 1: You gotta make it nasty and grimy and physical and

611
00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:09,480
Speaker 1: snot and spit and blood and whatever you want to

612
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:11,719
Speaker 1: call it, and you gotta make it. You got you

613
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:14,640
Speaker 1: gotta make it like that, all the bodily fluids. Yeah,

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00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:17,719
Speaker 1: there you go, man, absolutely yeah, oh man, that's awesome.

615
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:19,720
Speaker 1: Right hey, And by the way, really quick, we gotta

616
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:23,320
Speaker 1: go to break. But Richard Dent, uh did you block

617
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Speaker 1: him at all? Because he has the record for the

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Speaker 1: Chicago Bears with seventeen and a half sacks and I

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Speaker 1: think Quinn has sixteen, so he's just a couple of

620
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Speaker 1: way and I actually have gohead. I'm sorry, goodad. Well,

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Speaker 1: I was just gonna say, I have I have a

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Speaker 1: Richard Dent story to tell. I'll tell later. We don't

623
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:42,960
Speaker 1: have time. But um, yeah, that guy was a pretty

624
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:46,040
Speaker 1: good player. Yeah, and I played against him when he

625
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:48,280
Speaker 1: was with the with the forty nine years. I don't

626
00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:51,000
Speaker 1: think I played against him in Chicago, but but yeah,

627
00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:53,560
Speaker 1: that he was like the old man strong too, like

628
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:55,120
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like like some dudes that

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Speaker 1: I don't think. He's probably a strong dude in the

630
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Speaker 1: weight room, but I don't know. Field. He just had

631
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Speaker 1: like that man strength and grip and you'd just be like, dang, like,

632
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:05,480
Speaker 1: how's this dude doing this to me? But but yeah,

633
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:08,440
Speaker 1: Richard Dan was one of the better ones. Yep. All right, Ray,

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Speaker 1: we appreciate your time, man, and good talking to you,

635
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:13,640
Speaker 1: and a happy holidays. Brother. Yes, they're the same to

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Speaker 1: you guys. See right, all right, all right, we're gonna

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Speaker 1: come back on the huddle Michael Bumpus, Dave Wyman and

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Speaker 1: talk to Damian Lewis. That's next. Hey, welcome back to

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00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:26,720
Speaker 1: the huddle to Dave Wyman and Michael Bumpus, and shortly

640
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 1: we're gonna have Damian Lewis here. But yeah, it was

641
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:33,200
Speaker 1: interesting what Ray was saying about about the run game,

642
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:35,920
Speaker 1: and uh, you know how that that looked pretty good.

643
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:37,560
Speaker 1: I was I was glad to hear him say that,

644
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:40,480
Speaker 1: because I thought, yeah, DJ he ran well and Penny

645
00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:43,200
Speaker 1: ran well, but it seemed like more than anything, there's

646
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:47,080
Speaker 1: some pretty big holes open up in that defensive line. Yeah. Man,

647
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:50,720
Speaker 1: there was some opportunity there. Untimely penalties kind of you know,

648
00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:55,080
Speaker 1: installed a couple of runs. But I mean, we're looking

649
00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:57,520
Speaker 1: for positives anyway we can get them, man. And uh,

650
00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:00,360
Speaker 1: and that was a big one. How about the you know,

651
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:03,120
Speaker 1: and typically for players you don't you know, if you

652
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 1: played in the league, you usually don't complain about the

653
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 1: officiating because you're used to it. The thing was though

654
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 1: bump that you know, I said early on in the

655
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:14,720
Speaker 1: broadcast with raybel, I go, well, these things have a

656
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:17,840
Speaker 1: tendency to even out, but they never did. You know

657
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:19,480
Speaker 1: that there was a couple of and I mentioned that

658
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:22,880
Speaker 1: Terray the holding penalty on Aaron Donald. Uh, he didn't

659
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:24,920
Speaker 1: seem to think it was holding because you know, the

660
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 1: hands were inside and I can't remember if it was

661
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:31,480
Speaker 1: Damian Lewis or Gabe Jackson, but you know there was that.

662
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:36,120
Speaker 1: There was the past interference penalties, the one not called

663
00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:38,240
Speaker 1: I mean it was that was as rough of a

664
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:41,320
Speaker 1: game as I can remember, as far as officiating goes

665
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:45,480
Speaker 1: for the Seahawks, Yeah, if you play in enough games,

666
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:48,560
Speaker 1: you're gonna have days like that. Right. The unfortunate part

667
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 1: is that it happened when we felt like the Hawks

668
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:54,920
Speaker 1: had a legit chance to win a ball game and

669
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 1: to salvage their season. Right, you win out a couple

670
00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 1: of people or teams losing front to you, you might

671
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:02,520
Speaker 1: have a chance to get it done. So I think

672
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 1: it was a whole situation. Right if this team, we're

673
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:08,400
Speaker 1: tending four and they're getting these these calls and you

674
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 1: drop a game, but you're still looking towards the playoffs,

675
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:12,600
Speaker 1: it's not as big of a deal, but it's just

676
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:15,400
Speaker 1: a situation that kind of amplifies it. All. Right, Hey,

677
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 1: on the line, we've got offensive guard Damian Lewis, Damon

678
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:21,600
Speaker 1: and how you doing man? I'm doing great, sir. How

679
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:24,320
Speaker 1: you doing well? We're doing really good. Hey, tell us

680
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:26,760
Speaker 1: how that felt. You guys had a good We're just

681
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:29,800
Speaker 1: talking about offensive line wise, had a good game. You

682
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:33,000
Speaker 1: were blowing up on some pretty big holes in that line,

683
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:35,160
Speaker 1: did a pretty good job with the path flocking and

684
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:37,360
Speaker 1: that was that was a good defensive line that you

685
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:41,560
Speaker 1: played against there, Because yeah, It was a great group.

686
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 1: They're tending all around, you know, and we just came

687
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 1: at that. You know, it's cut and do our job.

688
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:49,480
Speaker 1: You know, hate that, you know we didn't get the

689
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 1: result that we were looking for, but you know we

690
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:54,600
Speaker 1: still went out there faults, you know, leaving it all

691
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:57,800
Speaker 1: out on the field by as a team. Hey, damon,

692
00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:00,160
Speaker 1: you guys have had a few running backs back there

693
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:03,040
Speaker 1: this year, start off with Kiss Carson, Alex Collins, got

694
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:06,880
Speaker 1: DJ Dallas with shot Penny Um. Does timing change at

695
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:09,520
Speaker 1: all when you have different backs back there or does it?

696
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:12,720
Speaker 1: Is it just business as usual? I just you know,

697
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 1: just a normal you know, don't matter who baked in

698
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:18,200
Speaker 1: the back. They know to read. So it's just you know,

699
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:21,840
Speaker 1: us doing our job blocking the scheme and old guy

700
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:24,320
Speaker 1: making the right cut and the right read. So it

701
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:27,080
Speaker 1: doesn't matter who baked that at all. We just do

702
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:29,479
Speaker 1: our job up front and you know everything there, take

703
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:32,920
Speaker 1: care of yourself. They tell us, Damien about you know,

704
00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 1: getting the schedule all changed around, and you know I

705
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:39,040
Speaker 1: always say football players and Mike and I both played, Uh,

706
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:42,720
Speaker 1: you know, you get kind of setting your ways about. Okay,

707
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 1: Tuesdays the day off and then Wednesday, we do this,

708
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:48,400
Speaker 1: Thursday we do this. It seems like you guys handled

709
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 1: it pretty well. Having the game switched at the last second,

710
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:53,720
Speaker 1: I think it was Friday. Tell us about that whole

711
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:58,080
Speaker 1: process and how you adjusted to it. Yeah, Like the

712
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:00,720
Speaker 1: whole process is kind of where because I really getting

713
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:03,160
Speaker 1: massides and stuff done, so I had to bank out

714
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:07,440
Speaker 1: my massides up to Sunday and you know, getting my

715
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:10,720
Speaker 1: body routine, you know, recovery work. But it was pretty

716
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 1: smooth though. You know, we had got a day off

717
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:17,279
Speaker 1: and came back you know, the like practice and we

718
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:19,960
Speaker 1: head down to LA before the game. But it was

719
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:24,160
Speaker 1: smooth though. It Since your second year in the league, obviously,

720
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:26,480
Speaker 1: during the off season you watch film, you try to

721
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:28,959
Speaker 1: get better at a couple of things. Is there something

722
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:31,880
Speaker 1: that you worked on this offseason that you're seeing yourself

723
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:35,560
Speaker 1: do better as the season goes along this year, you know,

724
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:39,440
Speaker 1: pinning closest pension to the details, you know, the small thing,

725
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:43,439
Speaker 1: making small taking small steps, the read, you know, looking

726
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:46,839
Speaker 1: at the defense, watching film, looking at the defensive lamb

727
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:49,000
Speaker 1: in his favorite move, you know what he liked to do,

728
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:52,120
Speaker 1: like his counter So you know those things right that

729
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:57,880
Speaker 1: depend pens to the you know, small thing, the detail. Yeah, Damian,

730
00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:00,800
Speaker 1: tell us about Aaron Donald. You know, I just he

731
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 1: looks to me like one of the best, not just

732
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 1: a defensive linement, but like one of the best football

733
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 1: players in the NFL. What makes himself special? Yeah, you know,

734
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 1: you're a great player, for sure. He gonna be in

735
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:16,160
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. You know. First of all, you know,

736
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:19,279
Speaker 1: he definitely going down one of the basic detacker ever

737
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 1: did to play the game. You know, you just got

738
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:23,279
Speaker 1: to get him the problem because he put the work in.

739
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 1: You know, he's showing it on faim and but the

740
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:29,080
Speaker 1: guy great, you know, means just going against him. You know,

741
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 1: I played him at full time already, so me to

742
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 1: going against something, getting a spur. You know, he making

743
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:38,320
Speaker 1: me work, you know, billing me who I'm gonna be

744
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:41,279
Speaker 1: and do you know, good work, you know, And I'm

745
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:44,480
Speaker 1: excited for every mate opportunity that I get to play him.

746
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:48,160
Speaker 1: So you know, I'm gonna be looking for the news matchup. Hey, damn.

747
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:50,600
Speaker 1: One of the things that I missed most about playing

748
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:53,680
Speaker 1: football is just the chatter that goes on on the field.

749
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:56,279
Speaker 1: I didn't talk much, but I got involved a little bit.

750
00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:58,240
Speaker 1: What do you like out there, are you a talker?

751
00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:00,399
Speaker 1: You kind of just do your job? Like sure, what's

752
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:03,200
Speaker 1: your vibe out there? Yeah? I know him to do

753
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:05,880
Speaker 1: my job, you know, all they're talking, ain't me you know,

754
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:08,239
Speaker 1: I hate talking. I just go out there and trying

755
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:11,759
Speaker 1: to you know, do my job. Yeah okay, yeah, and

756
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:13,879
Speaker 1: just gets you tired, right, Damien. I mean you gotta

757
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 1: save your save your breath for playing, right, yeah, I

758
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:19,480
Speaker 1: just see its pointless, you know, talking for what? You know,

759
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 1: you just gotta go out there and make a play,

760
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 1: you know, just block. This is my job block So

761
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 1: I ain't no needs talking. Ain't gonna block the men

762
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:28,960
Speaker 1: in front of me, you know anything, gonna find them

763
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:31,440
Speaker 1: up and he probably taut so you know, dud, go

764
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 1: out there and fight, you know. Yeah, you know. I

765
00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 1: used to go against guys that would try to give

766
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:38,960
Speaker 1: you compliments, like they would go the other way, thinking

767
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 1: that that was like a little psychological game, which that

768
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:44,799
Speaker 1: ended up pissing me off. And you know because of hey,

769
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:46,920
Speaker 1: you know, I see you this and that, and you're

770
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:48,360
Speaker 1: a good player, Like no, no, no, no, no no,

771
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 1: don't don't even try that crap with me. Have you

772
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 1: ever anybody anybody tried that, Damien, Nah, ain't know not

773
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:56,840
Speaker 1: to because they're going in here and going out the

774
00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:59,279
Speaker 1: other one. They'd be trying to talk to me. But

775
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:01,360
Speaker 1: I'll be like being in the game. You know, we

776
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:03,760
Speaker 1: could talk out of the game. Yeah, I'm gonna focus

777
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:05,880
Speaker 1: right now. I'm trying to block you in. Whoop you

778
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:11,560
Speaker 1: all that day? Uh? You know what, I was gonna

779
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:13,600
Speaker 1: put this in your ear? Think about it before the

780
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:17,759
Speaker 1: end of the interview. Do you remember, Damien, the your

781
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:21,480
Speaker 1: favorite Christmas present that you got when you were a kid?

782
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:31,320
Speaker 1: My favorite Christmas present? Anything stand out, anything special. I

783
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 1: gotta say when I was a kid, got to be

784
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 1: my Attendo. They gotta be Mario, my attendo aintendo Okay,

785
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:43,239
Speaker 1: got it was the thing back then. He had the

786
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:47,400
Speaker 1: attendo ds gotta have Mario. So I wanted that when

787
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:49,279
Speaker 1: I was a little so that was big to me.

788
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 1: And when I was here, we go, Damn, you got

789
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 1: family coming in, Mari. You saw all this Christmas. I

790
00:37:57,320 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 1: just got my family and my son. Yeah. Well, and

791
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 1: typically offensive linemen would get together for things like that,

792
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 1: but you guys are probably avoiding that right now. Huh. Yeah,

793
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:10,799
Speaker 1: you know Kovid going on. You know, people got little

794
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:12,879
Speaker 1: kids and I don't just had a new born baby,

795
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:16,840
Speaker 1: so you know, trying to uh, you know, keep them safe,

796
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:18,600
Speaker 1: and you know, you don't want to hold group of

797
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:20,799
Speaker 1: people around your kids and stuff, so you know, keep

798
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 1: the household saying yeah, we're definitely gonna get together out there.

799
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:26,640
Speaker 1: Though there you go, well, hey, and really quick, you

800
00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:29,080
Speaker 1: guys got the Chicago Bears coming up. And you know

801
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:31,480
Speaker 1: we say this all the time. Every week's a challenge.

802
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:34,239
Speaker 1: You got Robert Quinn who has sixteen sacks, and then

803
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:37,759
Speaker 1: how about a Chem Hicks. I mean that's uh, you

804
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:41,160
Speaker 1: get no rest, right, I mean you go from Aaron

805
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:46,279
Speaker 1: Donald and Von Miller and Leonard Floyd to these guys. Yeah,

806
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:48,840
Speaker 1: you know it's gonna be like you said, ain't no

807
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:51,439
Speaker 1: break this in NFL. You know you're gonna get big

808
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:54,360
Speaker 1: ten mant up every week. You're gonna get that. But

809
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 1: I'm used to it. You know, coming from La Shoe,

810
00:38:57,200 --> 00:39:00,319
Speaker 1: you're gonna see three or four big ten prospect week

811
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 1: in college where I play at least soon at a SEC.

812
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:06,359
Speaker 1: So I'm just used to it. About now, you know, dude,

813
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:11,120
Speaker 1: trying to go out there put put everything that I learned.

814
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 1: They pregnantly put it to work on game day, so

815
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:16,279
Speaker 1: you know, I'm ready to show up. There you go,

816
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 1: all right, man, Well listen, happy holidays. Uh, congratulations on

817
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:23,360
Speaker 1: a great game last week. Didn't get to win, but

818
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:26,719
Speaker 1: guys played really well. And uh yeah, we appreciate you

819
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:30,200
Speaker 1: coming on with us. Damien, Yes word, thank you. Fam

820
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:33,719
Speaker 1: All right, there he goes offensive guard Damian Lewis. I

821
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:36,560
Speaker 1: was gonna ask him in the off season, he doesn't

822
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:39,120
Speaker 1: he squat like six hundred and fifty pounds or something

823
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:41,800
Speaker 1: like that? Bumper my off is it? It's probably like

824
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:44,960
Speaker 1: it could be a thousand. I don't know. I'll bank

825
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:47,560
Speaker 1: on a thousand. Yeah, I mean the guy and I

826
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:50,400
Speaker 1: think Ray said he got stronger during the off season.

827
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:53,440
Speaker 1: I'm like, if you're if you're squatting like six eighty

828
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:55,839
Speaker 1: or whatever I think the number is. It's around six

829
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:58,440
Speaker 1: fifty seven hundred, Like, are you sitting there going? Man?

830
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:03,320
Speaker 1: I gotta get to eight hundred. This guy is ridiculously strong.

831
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:06,200
Speaker 1: All right, Well, we're coming up next. We've got another

832
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 1: player interview coming up. It's Kolby Parkinson Stanford. Guy bump

833
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 1: got it. You know, we gotta love the Stanford guys, right,

834
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:15,719
Speaker 1: Cardinal there we go. All right, that's coming up. He's

835
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:18,919
Speaker 1: a tight end and actually you know has it. Haven't

836
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:20,759
Speaker 1: seen a whole lot of him. But we'll ask him

837
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 1: about his involvement in this offense and maybe ask about

838
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:27,200
Speaker 1: his favorite Christmas present. That's next on the Huddle with

839
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:29,759
Speaker 1: Michael bump Us and Dave Wyman. Hey, welcome back to

840
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:32,360
Speaker 1: the huddle. It's Dave Wyman and Michael bump Us and

841
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:36,440
Speaker 1: we got on the line here very special guest went

842
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:40,360
Speaker 1: to Stanford. I know you love that bump Washington State Cougar.

843
00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:43,960
Speaker 1: But we've got Colby Parkinson. How you doing coolby the

844
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:46,239
Speaker 1: great guys. Thanks for having me on. Yeah, thanks for

845
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 1: coming on with us. Hey, what do you got planned

846
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:51,720
Speaker 1: for the holidays? I know that you know is supposed

847
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:53,880
Speaker 1: to limit gatherings and typically you probably get together with

848
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:57,880
Speaker 1: other guys and stuff, but you're keeping it small. You

849
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:00,759
Speaker 1: got family? What's going on for you? Yeah? I got

850
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:03,960
Speaker 1: some family local. We'll get together, not many, just just

851
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:06,279
Speaker 1: the local family. So I get the other and have

852
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:08,080
Speaker 1: a nice little Christmas and then you know, get ready

853
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:10,120
Speaker 1: for the Bears on Sunday. There you go, good and

854
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:13,480
Speaker 1: good deal. Hey, um, tell us about this offense and

855
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:16,799
Speaker 1: from your perspective kind of we were talking about Russ

856
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 1: and having the interrupted season, which has never happened with him,

857
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:22,399
Speaker 1: and then you know, there's been times where it's looked

858
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:24,560
Speaker 1: like you guys have really good rhythm, but as far

859
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:28,520
Speaker 1: as you know, as far as that goes and establishing that,

860
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:33,080
Speaker 1: where would you say you guys are offensively? Yeah, we'll

861
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 1: just keep trying to find that. You said it. Rhythm

862
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:37,719
Speaker 1: is such an important thing in an offense, and you know,

863
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:39,480
Speaker 1: we'll just keep at it, keep trying to find our

864
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:42,720
Speaker 1: way and you know, figure out the recipe to success.

865
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 1: And it's definitely out there for us. We've had glimpses

866
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:48,239
Speaker 1: of it, and you know, keep driving to be better

867
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:51,040
Speaker 1: each week. Hey, Colby, I look at this tight end

868
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:53,360
Speaker 1: room and I see different types of tight ends. I

869
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 1: see Uncle Will Disley, he seems like he's your blue

870
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 1: collar guy. Joe Everett seems like a route runner. What

871
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:00,960
Speaker 1: type of tight end are you and what have you

872
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:03,759
Speaker 1: learned from other guys in the room. Yeah, I try

873
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:05,799
Speaker 1: to fit into both categories. I try to be someone

874
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 1: that can be used in the run game and then

875
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:10,280
Speaker 1: also a route runner. You know, that was my primary

876
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:13,279
Speaker 1: use in college was able to split out and being

877
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:16,399
Speaker 1: tight and run some some routes and definitely see myself

878
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:18,000
Speaker 1: being able to do both of those. And it's been

879
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:21,279
Speaker 1: awesome to have two examples of each in this tight

880
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 1: end him to watch Gerald with his route running and whatnot,

881
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 1: and then also will to see how he comes to

882
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:27,560
Speaker 1: work every day and you know, gets it done in

883
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:31,080
Speaker 1: the run game and pass pro and also routes as well. Boy,

884
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:34,040
Speaker 1: Gerald Everett seems like he's I always say this, Kolbe.

885
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:36,239
Speaker 1: He runs angry man. I mean, he seems like a

886
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:39,640
Speaker 1: very nice guy. But the guy I never gets tackled

887
00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 1: by the first tackle or and uh I don't remember

888
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 1: seeing that with the Rams, but uh yeah, that's got

889
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:48,839
Speaker 1: to be, uh somebody you definitely want to emulate, right,

890
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:51,120
Speaker 1: I mean, he just he just runs like he's he's

891
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:54,040
Speaker 1: angry at somebody. Love it. Oh yeah. He definitely definitely

892
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:55,680
Speaker 1: has an edge to him, and when he gets the

893
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 1: ball in his hand, you know he's not gonna get

894
00:42:57,239 --> 00:42:59,480
Speaker 1: tackled by the first guy, like you said, so definitely

895
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:02,920
Speaker 1: learning a lot from that. Hey, Colby, how you adjusting

896
00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:05,919
Speaker 1: to the Northwest. I know you're from west Lake, that's

897
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 1: down in Uh, in California and you went up north

898
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:11,480
Speaker 1: to Stanford gets a little colder, but little little rainy.

899
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:14,600
Speaker 1: How you adjusting all this? I love it up here. Uh.

900
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:17,200
Speaker 1: It has been a very rainy winter so far, I

901
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:20,279
Speaker 1: will say that. But I love the mountains up here,

902
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:22,560
Speaker 1: at the lakes and whatnot. It's it's beautiful. So definitely

903
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:26,720
Speaker 1: blessed to be up here. I'd say it's about normal though. Colby.

904
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:28,960
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I don't mean to bring you down, bro,

905
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:33,439
Speaker 1: but yeah, it's it's tough coming from from southern Cow.

906
00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:35,880
Speaker 1: But hey, I want to ask you about blocking, and

907
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:39,920
Speaker 1: you know they always say that that is something that

908
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 1: is about want too. Um, and what have you learned

909
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 1: about blocking in the NFL? And is it is it

910
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:51,359
Speaker 1: different from what you were asked to do at Stanford. Uh? Yeah,

911
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:53,319
Speaker 1: I definitely agree with it being about the want too.

912
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 1: I think this year especially, I took it uns myself

913
00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:58,719
Speaker 1: to have a better mentality about blocking and just being

914
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:01,759
Speaker 1: more aggressive and thinking less and I think that's really

915
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:03,960
Speaker 1: helped me out and my opportunities that I've had so far.

916
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:06,439
Speaker 1: M And it's it's all the same across the board,

917
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 1: from college to NFL. It's just about the desire to

918
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:12,000
Speaker 1: get it done and going out there and doing it. Hey, Colby,

919
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:14,200
Speaker 1: when I was young, I used to watch guys like

920
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:17,560
Speaker 1: t O play hinz Ward and try to emulate my

921
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:20,480
Speaker 1: game after them. Who did you watch growing up in

922
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:23,160
Speaker 1: trying to patting your game after you? Yeah? So I

923
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:25,840
Speaker 1: grew up watching Urts a lot, watch his route running.

924
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 1: I'll watched gronk Uh and then even earlier it was

925
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:31,600
Speaker 1: Antonio Gates and you know, Tony Gonzalez, some of the greats,

926
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:34,360
Speaker 1: Jason Witten. I kind of watched all of them, you know,

927
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:37,080
Speaker 1: try to be like them in different aspects and take

928
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:39,080
Speaker 1: something from each of their games to ads my own.

929
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:42,719
Speaker 1: Were you a baseball guy, Colby? I was, yeah, yeah,

930
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:46,080
Speaker 1: high school? Yeah, and I think I remember, didn't you

931
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:49,320
Speaker 1: like Kokuchi? Wasn't here Kokuchie? One of your your heroes

932
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 1: that you watched? It was Suzuki Ichiro oh Ichiro. I'm sorry, yeah, yeah, yeah,

933
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:56,200
Speaker 1: that's right. Yeah, we talked to you about that during

934
00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:59,560
Speaker 1: during baseball tea. How serious were you about baseball? Oh?

935
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 1: I love I played since I was three, um, and

936
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:05,600
Speaker 1: then I stopped after my softwareyere in high school, I think,

937
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 1: but I always kind of wished I kept going a

938
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 1: little bit, just to enjoy it and have some fun

939
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:11,960
Speaker 1: with it. Bex I was kind of my first love

940
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:15,920
Speaker 1: as as a sport. Hey, Colby, at six seven, you

941
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:18,960
Speaker 1: are a large human being. I assume throughout your life

942
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:21,239
Speaker 1: as a kid, you've been one of the bigger kids

943
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:23,360
Speaker 1: in youth football. Did they ever try to make you

944
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:28,600
Speaker 1: an offensive lineman? Not really in my first years. You know,

945
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:30,839
Speaker 1: everyone plays every position kind of so I was playing

946
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:33,279
Speaker 1: old line and whatnot, but I was playing tight end

947
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:36,440
Speaker 1: for most of my youth football career. I played quarterback

948
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:39,880
Speaker 1: in eighth grade, which was pretty fun, but mainly at

949
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:42,840
Speaker 1: tight end. Yeah, Bump, you're talking about those kids that

950
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:45,080
Speaker 1: they put the big tape. They put an X right,

951
00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:48,000
Speaker 1: which means you can't you can't carry the ball. Yeah.

952
00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:50,959
Speaker 1: I always made sure I was just under that weight limit.

953
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:53,719
Speaker 1: There you go, There you go. Hey, he sits something

954
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:56,359
Speaker 1: earlier that I picked up on Colby. You said when

955
00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:59,239
Speaker 1: we were talking about blocking, he said, don't think so

956
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:01,560
Speaker 1: much or you know, and I always say this that

957
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:03,520
Speaker 1: sometimes you just in football you just gotta turn your

958
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:06,760
Speaker 1: brain off. I mean, you know, you can overthink things.

959
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:09,160
Speaker 1: And I always joke it's true I had my best

960
00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:13,400
Speaker 1: game at Stanford after I had a concussion and I

961
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:16,320
Speaker 1: didn't think about anything. I just ran around and made plays.

962
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:17,800
Speaker 1: And that was back in the day when they just

963
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:20,280
Speaker 1: put you back in see oh, you hold up two fingers.

964
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:22,759
Speaker 1: But but yeah, tell us a little bit about that,

965
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:25,440
Speaker 1: because I imagine and I was kind of that way too.

966
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:29,040
Speaker 1: When you come into the NFL, you start overthinking things

967
00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:32,400
Speaker 1: instead of just letting it loose and playing. Yeah, and

968
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:34,960
Speaker 1: for me especially, I'm a very analytical person. I like

969
00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:38,240
Speaker 1: to understand everything that's going on and be very particular

970
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 1: and whatnot. But now that I'm at this stage in

971
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:44,360
Speaker 1: my career where I have the footwork down, I'm pretty

972
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:46,799
Speaker 1: pretty comfortable with all of that stuff. It's just time

973
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:48,400
Speaker 1: to go. You know. I don't need to think about

974
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 1: taking that first step six inches to the left and whatnot.

975
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:54,239
Speaker 1: It just your brain knows what to do. Just turn

976
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:57,040
Speaker 1: it off, like you said, and get after it. This

977
00:46:57,280 --> 00:47:01,800
Speaker 1: late into the season, you had experiences. Now, what's the

978
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:03,960
Speaker 1: NFL what you thought it was going to be. Is

979
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:06,120
Speaker 1: it easier, is it harder? Did it live up to

980
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:08,640
Speaker 1: your expectations? What's your your view of the league now

981
00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:10,759
Speaker 1: that you've been in for a while. Yeah, it's a

982
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:12,320
Speaker 1: it's about what I thought it would be. You know,

983
00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:15,279
Speaker 1: everyone's bigger, faster, stronger, you know, these dns that were

984
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:21,080
Speaker 1: going up against our huge humans. So it's definitely something

985
00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:24,080
Speaker 1: that you have to grow accustomed to, and it's always

986
00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:26,640
Speaker 1: a growing process for sure, But um, kind of what

987
00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:28,759
Speaker 1: I expected to be, you know, definitely a huge step

988
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:32,279
Speaker 1: up from the college level. All right, Colby, last one

989
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:34,520
Speaker 1: for me. We just had Damian Lewis on. I asked

990
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:37,880
Speaker 1: him what his most memorable Christmas present was as a

991
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:41,840
Speaker 1: kid growing up. I think he said Nintendo Super Mario

992
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:45,160
Speaker 1: or something. What do you what was memorable for you

993
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:49,800
Speaker 1: when we were kids. It would be anything sports related

994
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:53,000
Speaker 1: that my brother and I got together, whether it was

995
00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:55,359
Speaker 1: even just a football of basketball. We had a court

996
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:57,640
Speaker 1: in our in our backyard, so we were out there

997
00:47:57,680 --> 00:48:00,800
Speaker 1: all the time playing together. So those are some of

998
00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:02,680
Speaker 1: my best memories, and a lot of them came from

999
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:06,200
Speaker 1: from Christmas. Kiss. Yeah there you go. Well I'll tell

1000
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:08,160
Speaker 1: you what. Yeah, I got a football helmet early on,

1001
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:10,040
Speaker 1: and it was one of those ones that looks like

1002
00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 1: there's like a toilet cake in the top of it

1003
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:14,840
Speaker 1: on the inside, and it had like a little straps

1004
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:18,560
Speaker 1: and yeah, so that that was definitely good stuff anytime

1005
00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:21,080
Speaker 1: you're kid and you know that, like at an early

1006
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:23,320
Speaker 1: age you knew that like sports were going to be

1007
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:26,759
Speaker 1: a huge part of your life, right Oh yeah, absolutely, Yeah.

1008
00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:29,879
Speaker 1: All right, Colby, we really appreciate you spending the time,

1009
00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:33,080
Speaker 1: and good luck this weekend and uh, happy holidays, man,

1010
00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:36,880
Speaker 1: I appreciate you guys. May Christmas, Merry Christmas. There he

1011
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:40,920
Speaker 1: goes Colby Parkinson. I gotta tell you both those Stamford guys, man,

1012
00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:45,080
Speaker 1: they're just quality dudes. Right. Yeah. We talked to him

1013
00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:47,399
Speaker 1: a couple of times before. He really thoughtful, nice guy,

1014
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:49,840
Speaker 1: really good. I like what he said, man, I like

1015
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:52,279
Speaker 1: what he said about well and especially I didn't want

1016
00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:53,480
Speaker 1: to say this, but I know we've got to get

1017
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:55,440
Speaker 1: the break but really quick. There was a lot of

1018
00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 1: Stamford guys when I was there that just thought too much.

1019
00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:01,480
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, on the field, like you know a question, Um,

1020
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:04,120
Speaker 1: should I go three inches to the right here? How

1021
00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:06,600
Speaker 1: about you just hit the guy? You know? So yeah,

1022
00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:09,640
Speaker 1: I feel like that's um maybe you know, like he said,

1023
00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:12,040
Speaker 1: he's very analytical, but there are times where you just

1024
00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:14,160
Speaker 1: have to have to turn it off, So I liked

1025
00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:16,520
Speaker 1: I liked hearing that. Well, Dave, you don't get into

1026
00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:19,160
Speaker 1: Stanford being a dummy, Dave, that's for sure. Well, my

1027
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:21,439
Speaker 1: problem is, bump is it sometimes I turn my brain

1028
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:24,279
Speaker 1: off when I'm doing a radio and that does not work.

1029
00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:27,080
Speaker 1: But out on the field definitely works. All right. Coming

1030
00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:31,600
Speaker 1: up next Steve Rabel, the voice of the Seahawks and

1031
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:34,400
Speaker 1: my radio partner during the games. We're gonna talk to him.

1032
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:37,160
Speaker 1: That's next on the Huddle with Dave Wyman and Michael Bumpus.

1033
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:41,719
Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Huddle on Michael Bumps with Dave

1034
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:45,200
Speaker 1: Wyman Area. It's what uday, I'm good man. I just

1035
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:48,160
Speaker 1: didn't didn't have anything in my ear there, but yeah,

1036
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:50,319
Speaker 1: we're good to go. It's we got Oh hey, it's

1037
00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:54,680
Speaker 1: another segment where we've got three players. Okay, Now you

1038
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:57,239
Speaker 1: gotta stretch your memory a little bit to remember this guy,

1039
00:49:57,760 --> 00:50:01,400
Speaker 1: Steve Rabel. But Steve Rabel, voice of the Seahawks on

1040
00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:04,799
Speaker 1: the line, how you doing, Rapes, I'm doing great, guys.

1041
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:08,120
Speaker 1: How are you? We're just fine? And uh yeah, I

1042
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:11,200
Speaker 1: saw you earlier today and you were all fired up

1043
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:15,600
Speaker 1: about this game coming up here against Chicago. But tell us.

1044
00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:18,560
Speaker 1: I don't know. It was kind of an interesting mood

1045
00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:21,360
Speaker 1: as far as that RAM game. You kind of felt

1046
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:23,680
Speaker 1: like you were in it. But the way Cooper Cup

1047
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:27,560
Speaker 1: kept catching those passes and you know, finding himself open,

1048
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:30,840
Speaker 1: it just felt like it was eventually we were going

1049
00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:33,520
Speaker 1: to be on the wrong end of that of that score,

1050
00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:35,719
Speaker 1: of the twenty to ten. How did you feel as

1051
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:40,520
Speaker 1: that game developed Rapes? Yeah, you know, it was funny, David,

1052
00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:42,640
Speaker 1: because we talked about it. We said one of the

1053
00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:44,320
Speaker 1: one of the keys to the game was going to

1054
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:47,080
Speaker 1: be you gotta find a way, if not to take

1055
00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:49,640
Speaker 1: Cooper Cup out of it, to at least the limit

1056
00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:52,800
Speaker 1: the kind of damage that he'll do to the team.

1057
00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:55,960
Speaker 1: And we just couldn't do it. And that, I think

1058
00:50:56,120 --> 00:50:59,200
Speaker 1: is a tribute to Cooper Cup. I mean, he's that

1059
00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:02,640
Speaker 1: good a football player that the Seahawks knowing that he's

1060
00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:06,040
Speaker 1: going to be a big contributor, maybe the big contributor

1061
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:08,799
Speaker 1: in that game, and still we couldn't keep him from

1062
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:11,960
Speaker 1: catching what did he catch? Twelve thirteen passes? Something like that.

1063
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:15,160
Speaker 1: I mean, it was just it was just crazy. And

1064
00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:18,720
Speaker 1: it also is their their offense. Everything in that offense

1065
00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:21,320
Speaker 1: the other day, especially was designed to kind of go

1066
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:24,680
Speaker 1: through him. Running plays were used to set up getting

1067
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:27,600
Speaker 1: him to spots on the field to throw him the football.

1068
00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:29,960
Speaker 1: And you know, we changed up defenses on him, we

1069
00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:32,440
Speaker 1: went man, we went some zone, and they still just

1070
00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:35,120
Speaker 1: found a way to do it. And that's a tribute

1071
00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:38,600
Speaker 1: to the Rams for their ability. I wish the Seahawks

1072
00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:40,839
Speaker 1: had been able to do a little bit better job

1073
00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:44,880
Speaker 1: against him once that kind of thing got going, and

1074
00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:46,800
Speaker 1: you couldn't get out of that rut of trying to

1075
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:50,320
Speaker 1: stop Cooper Cup. You know, now you're left with saying, Okay,

1076
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:52,680
Speaker 1: we're just gonna have to score more points than these guys,

1077
00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:56,120
Speaker 1: even though the Rams only scored twenty and we couldn't

1078
00:51:56,160 --> 00:52:00,160
Speaker 1: get there, and that made it just doubly tough. Well.

1079
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:02,560
Speaker 1: I had a debate with some of my receiver buddies. Man,

1080
00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:04,759
Speaker 1: I call it Cooper Cup the best in the game.

1081
00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:08,200
Speaker 1: They said I was crazy. Do you think he is

1082
00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:09,800
Speaker 1: one of the best in the game or easy a

1083
00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:15,360
Speaker 1: product of the Rams system? Well, I think he's I

1084
00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:18,040
Speaker 1: think he's one of the best receivers playing right now.

1085
00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:20,680
Speaker 1: I think you could put him in almost any system

1086
00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:23,400
Speaker 1: and he would be pretty successful because he does all

1087
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:25,480
Speaker 1: the things, as you know, bump that a receiver has

1088
00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:29,480
Speaker 1: to do to be successful. He's got great hands, great concentration,

1089
00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:33,000
Speaker 1: he runs really precise routes. He's faster than he looks,

1090
00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:35,480
Speaker 1: He's tough. He can take a shot and still make

1091
00:52:35,560 --> 00:52:38,040
Speaker 1: the catch. So all those things you want in a receiver.

1092
00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:41,520
Speaker 1: He's clutch. When you absolutely need to have that catch,

1093
00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:45,680
Speaker 1: he generally is there with it. You know, does he does?

1094
00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:49,319
Speaker 1: He light up the room like a DK Metcalf when

1095
00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:51,960
Speaker 1: he walks in without a shirt on. Is he as

1096
00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:56,520
Speaker 1: fast as some of the great wide receivers present and past?

1097
00:52:57,040 --> 00:53:00,040
Speaker 1: Probably not? But can he play this game? List? And

1098
00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:02,879
Speaker 1: I played with a guy that they said those those

1099
00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:05,680
Speaker 1: things about Steve Largen and he's got a bust in

1100
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:09,279
Speaker 1: Canton right now. So, um, you know, I don't I

1101
00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:11,360
Speaker 1: don't suggest that Cooper Cup is going to be that

1102
00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:15,400
Speaker 1: kind of receiver, but he sure is darn good. Hey, Raves,

1103
00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:18,719
Speaker 1: earlier we were talking a little bit about this, but well,

1104
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:22,160
Speaker 1: you expect expectations for this team and how they finish

1105
00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:24,440
Speaker 1: out the season. I mean, you got, you know, three

1106
00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:27,880
Speaker 1: games left, and it's you know, you look at some

1107
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:30,360
Speaker 1: of the guys, how much pride they have you know,

1108
00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:34,040
Speaker 1: Dwayne Brown, Bobby Wagner, Russell Wilson. Of course, I mean

1109
00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:36,320
Speaker 1: a lot of veteran guys and and a lot of

1110
00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:39,000
Speaker 1: guys that are that are putting um, you know, putting

1111
00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:42,719
Speaker 1: tape together and a resume together. So maybe for another team,

1112
00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:45,520
Speaker 1: but I feel like this is a pretty prideful group.

1113
00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:49,440
Speaker 1: And you've probably been like me in these situations a

1114
00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:51,680
Speaker 1: few of the seasons that you played. What are your

1115
00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:54,200
Speaker 1: memories of you know, when you're out of the playoffs

1116
00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:58,640
Speaker 1: and you pretty much know you're just playing for pride. Now, yeah,

1117
00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:00,960
Speaker 1: I will tell you, David, I was thinking about that

1118
00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:03,840
Speaker 1: just as soon as you you started this question, and

1119
00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:06,399
Speaker 1: I thought about in nineteen seventy six, the very first

1120
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:10,160
Speaker 1: year of the franchise. Then we played fourteen games in

1121
00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:13,520
Speaker 1: the regular season and we were two and thirteen coming

1122
00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:15,719
Speaker 1: into that last game. We ended up losing it, so

1123
00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:18,560
Speaker 1: we finished the season. I beg your pardon two and eleven.

1124
00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:24,239
Speaker 1: We finished the season two and twelve, And I remember specifically. Now,

1125
00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:26,160
Speaker 1: remember we had a team that was made up of

1126
00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:28,960
Speaker 1: a lot of older veterans who we got through the

1127
00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:32,200
Speaker 1: Veteran Allocation Draft, and a whole bunch of us rookies

1128
00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:36,680
Speaker 1: and first year guys, and I distinctly remember one of

1129
00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:41,200
Speaker 1: the older veterans coming up to me in that last

1130
00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:44,360
Speaker 1: week of practice for the I can't even remember. I

1131
00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:47,480
Speaker 1: think we played the Giants or the Eagles that last game,

1132
00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:51,520
Speaker 1: and he said, hey, rook whatever you do, be careful

1133
00:54:51,560 --> 00:54:52,920
Speaker 1: at her. You don't want to hurt. You don't want

1134
00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:54,680
Speaker 1: to go out there and get hurt on this last game.

1135
00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:56,719
Speaker 1: We're not you know, we're not gonna play We're not

1136
00:54:56,800 --> 00:54:59,840
Speaker 1: playing to win a championship or anything. Just you know,

1137
00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:03,000
Speaker 1: protect yourself, don't get hurt. And I thought, you know,

1138
00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:05,200
Speaker 1: that's kind of not the attitude you want to have.

1139
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:09,040
Speaker 1: And so we're flying back home cross country after that

1140
00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:13,400
Speaker 1: last game of the season and Jack Petera called me

1141
00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:15,239
Speaker 1: back to the back of the plane. He called a

1142
00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:17,560
Speaker 1: number of us young guys back to the back of

1143
00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:19,960
Speaker 1: the plane where the coaches sat in those days. We

1144
00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:22,560
Speaker 1: all sat toward the front. And he sat me down

1145
00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:23,759
Speaker 1: next to him and he said, when are you going

1146
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:25,360
Speaker 1: to come back to practice? What are you going to

1147
00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:27,520
Speaker 1: come back out here? And I said, I was thinking April.

1148
00:55:27,600 --> 00:55:30,360
Speaker 1: He said, be here in the beginning of March. And

1149
00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:33,080
Speaker 1: he said, you see those guys up there, most of

1150
00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:35,840
Speaker 1: those older players, they're not here. Next year, you will be.

1151
00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:39,200
Speaker 1: And that's why you have to be preparing right now

1152
00:55:39,640 --> 00:55:42,680
Speaker 1: for the rest of your career and next season specifically.

1153
00:55:42,719 --> 00:55:45,040
Speaker 1: And I'll never forget those words, and they meant a

1154
00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:48,239
Speaker 1: lot to me. And you know, here we go. The

1155
00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:51,239
Speaker 1: Seahawks have a lot of those very prideful guys, Dave,

1156
00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:54,320
Speaker 1: that you were talking about. And I can guarantee you

1157
00:55:54,440 --> 00:55:57,200
Speaker 1: that none of those guys, mostly because their coach is

1158
00:55:57,239 --> 00:55:58,839
Speaker 1: not going to let him, but none of those guys

1159
00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:02,120
Speaker 1: are going to quit playing until the season is over. Grave.

1160
00:56:02,239 --> 00:56:04,640
Speaker 1: Speaking of young guys, we've seen a lot of young

1161
00:56:04,680 --> 00:56:06,680
Speaker 1: guys play this year. This year, I mean Rashene Green

1162
00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:08,920
Speaker 1: seems young with this his fourth year. We got Darryl Taylor,

1163
00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:13,000
Speaker 1: Ugo Mahdi. Any of these guys surprised you this year

1164
00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:18,960
Speaker 1: and exceed your expectations. I gotta tell you, Taylor has

1165
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:21,160
Speaker 1: turned out to be just a great revelation. I mean

1166
00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:25,120
Speaker 1: John Schneider. The guys talked about him when they drafted him.

1167
00:56:25,520 --> 00:56:27,680
Speaker 1: We kept waiting hoping that he'd be able to get

1168
00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:29,840
Speaker 1: out there and play a little bit. Last season, the

1169
00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:33,000
Speaker 1: injury was more serious the surgery was more serious, all

1170
00:56:33,040 --> 00:56:36,080
Speaker 1: those things, but they just kind of assured us, Hey,

1171
00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:38,600
Speaker 1: this guy is special and you just got to see

1172
00:56:38,719 --> 00:56:41,400
Speaker 1: him play and he is. See him out there physically

1173
00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:44,480
Speaker 1: as to what he can do, and he has not disappointed.

1174
00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:47,239
Speaker 1: He's been a terrific player. I've been I've been really

1175
00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:51,480
Speaker 1: happy with how he's played. Trey Brown is one that

1176
00:56:51,680 --> 00:56:53,600
Speaker 1: was just kind of lit us up when he got

1177
00:56:53,640 --> 00:56:56,240
Speaker 1: in there, came off of injury in this his rookie season.

1178
00:56:56,520 --> 00:56:58,040
Speaker 1: I think he's going to be one that we'll be

1179
00:56:58,160 --> 00:57:01,120
Speaker 1: watching for a number of years to come. I like him.

1180
00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:03,680
Speaker 1: And you know, there weren't a lot of young guys

1181
00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:05,640
Speaker 1: to play this year. We didn't have many of them,

1182
00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:07,839
Speaker 1: but Jake Current here in the last few weeks has

1183
00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:10,439
Speaker 1: stepped in at that right tackle spot. I think he's

1184
00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:12,520
Speaker 1: got a future in this league, even as a as

1185
00:57:12,560 --> 00:57:15,160
Speaker 1: a free agent, an undrafted free agent. I think he's

1186
00:57:15,160 --> 00:57:18,400
Speaker 1: a kid who can play and they like him. So yeah,

1187
00:57:18,440 --> 00:57:21,200
Speaker 1: there's some young guys that give you some hope. And again,

1188
00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:24,480
Speaker 1: this while it's not a totally a young man's game,

1189
00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:27,040
Speaker 1: I think you'll see more and more of these young

1190
00:57:27,120 --> 00:57:31,080
Speaker 1: guys as regulars in the seasons. To come. Well, rib's

1191
00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:34,640
Speaker 1: happy holidays to you, man. We love talking to you

1192
00:57:34,800 --> 00:57:38,680
Speaker 1: and I'll see you on Sunday and best to you

1193
00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:41,120
Speaker 1: and your family. Thanks for coming on with us, buddy, Yeah,

1194
00:57:42,080 --> 00:57:44,360
Speaker 1: thank you guys. Merry Christmas to all of you, all

1195
00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:47,440
Speaker 1: of you out there listening, Happy holidays, and yeah, they

1196
00:57:47,520 --> 00:57:49,840
Speaker 1: will see you on Sunday. And let's let's get a win.

1197
00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:51,920
Speaker 1: It feels a lot better when we get a win. Yes,

1198
00:57:52,040 --> 00:57:54,880
Speaker 1: it does. It's much more fun, much more enjoyable to

1199
00:57:54,960 --> 00:58:00,800
Speaker 1: be around you also. So that's right, guys, All right,

1200
00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:03,479
Speaker 1: rich thanks there we go. All right? Coming up next,

1201
00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:05,440
Speaker 1: Sea Rods. What do we got here? We got an

1202
00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:09,120
Speaker 1: opponent preview? Do we do we have anybody or are

1203
00:58:09,160 --> 00:58:12,400
Speaker 1: we going to we do? Yeah, we've got Patrick Finley

1204
00:58:12,440 --> 00:58:15,200
Speaker 1: of the Chicago Sun Times gump coming on with us. Perfect,

1205
00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:17,080
Speaker 1: thank you. I'm sorry I did not see that. So

1206
00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:19,959
Speaker 1: Patrick Finley and he'll tell us a little bit about

1207
00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:22,840
Speaker 1: the Bears. That's next on the Huddle with Michael Bumpus

1208
00:58:22,880 --> 00:58:27,160
Speaker 1: and Dave Wyman. Welcome back to the huddle, Dave Wyman

1209
00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:30,200
Speaker 1: and Michael bump Us, and we've got on the line

1210
00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:33,280
Speaker 1: Patrick Finley from the Chicago Sun Times but most importantly,

1211
00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:37,120
Speaker 1: I just heard the conversation bear down. He's a Wildcat,

1212
00:58:37,160 --> 00:58:41,720
Speaker 1: Arizona Wildcat. Patrick, Welcome to the show. Used to cover

1213
00:58:41,840 --> 00:58:46,360
Speaker 1: the Wildcats. I'm a Missouri Tiger. Oh okay, they lost

1214
00:58:46,440 --> 00:58:48,760
Speaker 1: the ball get they lost the ball game last night

1215
00:58:48,880 --> 00:58:52,680
Speaker 1: and their rivalry game to Illinois by like forty points.

1216
00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:55,120
Speaker 1: So not a great day to be in the jury, Tiger,

1217
00:58:55,160 --> 00:58:57,560
Speaker 1: I'll tell you. Yeah, So you're a little stung today.

1218
00:58:57,640 --> 00:59:00,760
Speaker 1: All right, Hey, I want to ask about Justin Field.

1219
00:59:00,840 --> 00:59:02,880
Speaker 1: You know, we were talking to people because it was

1220
00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:05,880
Speaker 1: rumored in the off season that Ross was gonna, you know,

1221
00:59:06,040 --> 00:59:09,440
Speaker 1: Chicago was possibly one of the teams. But it's always

1222
00:59:09,480 --> 00:59:12,280
Speaker 1: fascinating to me to look at, you know, the history

1223
00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:15,800
Speaker 1: of quarterbacks in Chicago and it's such a great franchise

1224
00:59:15,960 --> 00:59:18,480
Speaker 1: with you know, a lot of winning teams and everything,

1225
00:59:18,560 --> 00:59:23,480
Speaker 1: but never a quarterback to throw thirty touchdowns and never

1226
00:59:23,560 --> 00:59:27,280
Speaker 1: a quarterback that through for four thousand yards. Is Justin

1227
00:59:27,400 --> 00:59:30,960
Speaker 1: Field's going to be that guy? Do you think when

1228
00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:33,400
Speaker 1: you asked about the history of quarterbacking in Chicago? My

1229
00:59:33,440 --> 00:59:37,400
Speaker 1: first question is always what history? Shit? Luckton's the greatest

1230
00:59:37,480 --> 00:59:40,360
Speaker 1: quarterback they've ever had, and he retired seventy one years ago.

1231
00:59:41,400 --> 00:59:44,000
Speaker 1: I think I think Justin will be the one to

1232
00:59:44,080 --> 00:59:45,920
Speaker 1: do it for a lot of reasons, one of them

1233
00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:48,640
Speaker 1: being just the way that NFL offensives run now. In

1234
00:59:48,760 --> 00:59:51,640
Speaker 1: the extra game that they play, you'd think that it's

1235
00:59:51,680 --> 00:59:55,000
Speaker 1: as easy as ever. Justin has been struggling this year,

1236
00:59:55,120 --> 00:59:58,160
Speaker 1: but I think that's to be expected. Matt Naggie went

1237
00:59:58,200 --> 01:00:01,280
Speaker 1: into the season with Andy alon This was starting quarterback.

1238
01:00:01,400 --> 01:00:04,280
Speaker 1: Andy Dalton, played all of the preseason staffs with the

1239
01:00:04,360 --> 01:00:06,520
Speaker 1: first team, and then he got hurt in the second

1240
01:00:06,560 --> 01:00:08,960
Speaker 1: week and it was Justin Field's time. I think you

1241
01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:12,760
Speaker 1: could argue now, when doing the obituary of Matt Nagge's career,

1242
01:00:12,960 --> 01:00:15,520
Speaker 1: which is his stint here where the Bears is going

1243
01:00:15,560 --> 01:00:18,600
Speaker 1: to end in three weeks, maybe going all in on

1244
01:00:18,760 --> 01:00:22,840
Speaker 1: Justin in training camp probably would have been the better idea.

1245
01:00:23,400 --> 01:00:25,800
Speaker 1: I think he'll get there eventually, but you know, he's

1246
01:00:25,800 --> 01:00:30,240
Speaker 1: still a rookie and looks every bit right now. Hey, Patrick,

1247
01:00:30,320 --> 01:00:33,640
Speaker 1: Robert Quinn's having himself a year. Sixteen sacks only had

1248
01:00:33,680 --> 01:00:35,600
Speaker 1: two last year. Did you guys expect this type of

1249
01:00:35,680 --> 01:00:40,000
Speaker 1: production from this guy? Absolutely not. When they signed him

1250
01:00:40,080 --> 01:00:41,720
Speaker 1: last year, we did, and then he came out and

1251
01:00:42,600 --> 01:00:45,160
Speaker 1: might have been the worst contract in the NFL. Last season,

1252
01:00:45,240 --> 01:00:47,960
Speaker 1: they signed him to a five year, seventy million dollars

1253
01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:50,760
Speaker 1: deal to play opposite Clil Mac and he had two

1254
01:00:50,840 --> 01:00:53,320
Speaker 1: sacks and it just wasn't a very good player, and

1255
01:00:53,400 --> 01:00:56,200
Speaker 1: he wondered whether he'd gotten too old. He's been great

1256
01:00:56,280 --> 01:00:58,840
Speaker 1: this year. It's even more impressive when you considered that

1257
01:00:58,920 --> 01:01:01,560
Speaker 1: Kleil Mack been out most of the season. So this

1258
01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:04,880
Speaker 1: isn't him benefiting from somebody else getting double teams, him

1259
01:01:04,920 --> 01:01:07,440
Speaker 1: beating double teams himself. And you know what, he's a

1260
01:01:07,520 --> 01:01:10,320
Speaker 1: sack and a half behind the Richard Dent for the

1261
01:01:10,520 --> 01:01:13,520
Speaker 1: very single season record. If you could believe that all

1262
01:01:13,560 --> 01:01:16,240
Speaker 1: the great defensive players to come through here and Robert

1263
01:01:16,320 --> 01:01:19,240
Speaker 1: Quinn is most likely to have that mark by the

1264
01:01:19,320 --> 01:01:22,400
Speaker 1: time the season is that's amazing. And consider the fact

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Speaker 1: that you know, Robert Quinn started out when they were

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01:01:24,680 --> 01:01:28,520
Speaker 1: the Saint Louis Rams and in our division, playing for

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Speaker 1: five years. Quick, I told this earlier. I said this earlier,

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01:01:31,520 --> 01:01:35,600
Speaker 1: Quick Richard Dent story. One time I was with Denver

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01:01:36,080 --> 01:01:39,320
Speaker 1: play linebacker and we were in Chicago and there was

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01:01:39,360 --> 01:01:41,640
Speaker 1: a guy that cut me and blindsided me, and so

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01:01:41,720 --> 01:01:44,919
Speaker 1: I took took his helmet and kind of pushed off

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01:01:45,000 --> 01:01:47,280
Speaker 1: of it and sort of ground his face into the mud.

1273
01:01:47,320 --> 01:01:49,800
Speaker 1: I shouldn't have done it. Probably should have gotten penalized.

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01:01:50,200 --> 01:01:53,160
Speaker 1: Richard Dent is on the sidelines with one of those big,

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01:01:53,320 --> 01:01:57,680
Speaker 1: you know, raincoats on. He throws the raincoat off, comes

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01:01:57,840 --> 01:02:00,120
Speaker 1: running out to like the numbers where I was, and

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01:02:00,360 --> 01:02:03,320
Speaker 1: just jacks me up, just hits me, knocks me on

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01:02:03,480 --> 01:02:06,480
Speaker 1: my butt. And I'm looking around at the officials, go,

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01:02:07,400 --> 01:02:11,080
Speaker 1: that's a penalty. You gotta be kidding me, And Richard

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01:02:11,160 --> 01:02:14,240
Speaker 1: Dent just turned around and walked back to the sidelines

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01:02:14,280 --> 01:02:17,280
Speaker 1: and I limped back to the huddle. And but that's

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01:02:17,480 --> 01:02:20,520
Speaker 1: that's my memory of Richard Dent with the seventeen and

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01:02:20,560 --> 01:02:24,160
Speaker 1: a half sack record there in Chicago. As you say,

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01:02:24,280 --> 01:02:26,280
Speaker 1: making eighteen and a half, he took you down. Yeah,

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01:02:26,600 --> 01:02:30,040
Speaker 1: that's right. Yeah, so I mean that also, what about

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01:02:30,080 --> 01:02:33,400
Speaker 1: a Keem Hicks. I mean, you got Roquan Smith. There's

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Speaker 1: some really pretty good players on this defense. That's what

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01:02:37,440 --> 01:02:40,720
Speaker 1: number three in sacks and their top ten in total

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Speaker 1: yards and passing yards. Here's a two thousand and twenty

1290
01:02:44,800 --> 01:02:47,000
Speaker 1: one moment for you about ten minutes ago a Keen

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01:02:47,080 --> 01:02:51,040
Speaker 1: Hicks Scott put on the coronavirus. So the odds of

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01:02:51,120 --> 01:02:54,360
Speaker 1: the Seahawks seeing him have gone downhill. And Keen had

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01:02:54,400 --> 01:02:56,720
Speaker 1: been hurt for the last six weeks, came back and

1294
01:02:56,800 --> 01:02:58,960
Speaker 1: looked really good on Monday night. So that is a

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01:02:59,000 --> 01:03:01,520
Speaker 1: blow to the Bears. Roquan Smith I think is one

1296
01:03:01,560 --> 01:03:05,920
Speaker 1: of the best players in football, full stop. They are

1297
01:03:06,040 --> 01:03:08,520
Speaker 1: outraged that he did not get a Pro Bowl berth.

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01:03:08,880 --> 01:03:12,240
Speaker 1: They think he is the prototypical in sideline backer in

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01:03:12,320 --> 01:03:14,880
Speaker 1: modern football. He can go side to side as he's lead,

1300
01:03:15,040 --> 01:03:19,560
Speaker 1: as he can go you know, frontwards and backwards. He

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01:03:19,800 --> 01:03:23,320
Speaker 1: is You know, if you're watching one guy, Roquan Smith

1302
01:03:23,800 --> 01:03:26,120
Speaker 1: is going to watch just because of this speed. It's

1303
01:03:26,120 --> 01:03:28,160
Speaker 1: differ the way he plays booth to run in the past,

1304
01:03:28,440 --> 01:03:31,920
Speaker 1: and he's been super intressive. Hey Patrick, I saw a

1305
01:03:31,960 --> 01:03:34,840
Speaker 1: couple of quotes teammates of Justin Phills saying, man, he's

1306
01:03:34,880 --> 01:03:38,120
Speaker 1: just even kill. He's calm, cool, collected. It sounds like

1307
01:03:38,200 --> 01:03:40,400
Speaker 1: he's a good leader when you guys watch him play.

1308
01:03:41,280 --> 01:03:43,640
Speaker 1: We talk about the struggles at the quarterback position. Does

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01:03:43,720 --> 01:03:46,720
Speaker 1: this organization feel like this will be the guy for

1310
01:03:46,800 --> 01:03:51,240
Speaker 1: the next ten years? Yeah, yeah, they do. They were

1311
01:03:51,320 --> 01:03:53,280
Speaker 1: thrilled to be able to have him. Remember, guys, the

1312
01:03:53,360 --> 01:03:56,240
Speaker 1: Bears had the twentieth overall pick in this last year's draft,

1313
01:03:56,640 --> 01:03:58,920
Speaker 1: you know, back when they made an offer for Russell Wilson.

1314
01:03:59,360 --> 01:04:01,280
Speaker 1: You know, they they didn't think they'd have a chance

1315
01:04:01,400 --> 01:04:04,040
Speaker 1: to get you know, one of the five rookies at all,

1316
01:04:05,160 --> 01:04:06,720
Speaker 1: or they were stilled to be able to trade up

1317
01:04:06,760 --> 01:04:08,880
Speaker 1: and draft him. They love his makeup. They think that

1318
01:04:09,040 --> 01:04:13,000
Speaker 1: he is even keel. He's you know, coming from Ohio State,

1319
01:04:13,120 --> 01:04:15,280
Speaker 1: he's used to the spotlight. I mean, this isn't Mitch

1320
01:04:15,320 --> 01:04:19,040
Speaker 1: Trubisky coming from North Carolina, you know where where he

1321
01:04:19,120 --> 01:04:21,560
Speaker 1: started eleven hole games in his career. Like, this is

1322
01:04:21,600 --> 01:04:24,440
Speaker 1: a guy from the big program who knows what's expected

1323
01:04:24,480 --> 01:04:27,520
Speaker 1: of him through the highs and lows. He's been a

1324
01:04:27,600 --> 01:04:30,480
Speaker 1: really mature guy here and that's a good time. You know.

1325
01:04:30,560 --> 01:04:32,920
Speaker 1: He joked the other day that, you know, in his

1326
01:04:33,080 --> 01:04:36,800
Speaker 1: first game, in his first ever NFL start, the Bears game,

1327
01:04:36,920 --> 01:04:39,680
Speaker 1: something like forty yards, which is true. It was they

1328
01:04:39,760 --> 01:04:42,360
Speaker 1: got flowed out in Cleveland, and so he joked that

1329
01:04:42,440 --> 01:04:44,640
Speaker 1: there was only one way to go from that point.

1330
01:04:45,000 --> 01:04:49,400
Speaker 1: He handled the pressure and quite frankly the losing pretty

1331
01:04:49,440 --> 01:04:51,440
Speaker 1: well here. I mean, he's lost more this year than

1332
01:04:51,480 --> 01:04:54,920
Speaker 1: he had his entire life combined. Yeah, well, I was mentioning,

1333
01:04:55,040 --> 01:04:58,000
Speaker 1: you know, just the history of the quarterbacks there, but

1334
01:04:58,120 --> 01:05:02,960
Speaker 1: also the history of Ohio State quarterbacks isn't great. Either

1335
01:05:03,040 --> 01:05:05,960
Speaker 1: of you guys had that conversation there in Chicago. I

1336
01:05:06,160 --> 01:05:09,240
Speaker 1: wrote a story about that after they drafted it. And

1337
01:05:09,360 --> 01:05:11,360
Speaker 1: I want to say, the best quarterback in the history

1338
01:05:11,400 --> 01:05:13,720
Speaker 1: of Ohio State in the NFL is Mike tom Sack

1339
01:05:14,400 --> 01:05:17,840
Speaker 1: is right, And that is a statement right there. And

1340
01:05:18,000 --> 01:05:20,520
Speaker 1: I think Tom Toopa is in the top five list

1341
01:05:21,240 --> 01:05:26,280
Speaker 1: because he was good at another position. So yeah, it's

1342
01:05:26,320 --> 01:05:28,240
Speaker 1: a short list. I mean we talked to him about that.

1343
01:05:28,320 --> 01:05:31,320
Speaker 1: In terms of Twayne Haskins as well. You know, you

1344
01:05:31,360 --> 01:05:33,920
Speaker 1: know he's a you know, fairly he preceded him at

1345
01:05:33,960 --> 01:05:37,360
Speaker 1: Ohio State and is a fairly notorious draft bust I think,

1346
01:05:37,560 --> 01:05:40,240
Speaker 1: and you know, Phil just kind of said, listen, you know,

1347
01:05:40,320 --> 01:05:42,640
Speaker 1: I'm not responsible for the people that came before me

1348
01:05:42,720 --> 01:05:44,080
Speaker 1: and the people who came after me. All I can

1349
01:05:44,160 --> 01:05:47,920
Speaker 1: do is be myself. I think his skill set absolutely

1350
01:05:48,000 --> 01:05:50,000
Speaker 1: jumps off the page. I don't know whether he's going

1351
01:05:50,040 --> 01:05:52,560
Speaker 1: to be a great NFL quarterback. But I know that

1352
01:05:52,640 --> 01:05:57,000
Speaker 1: the Bears think that he has that he might already

1353
01:05:57,040 --> 01:05:59,440
Speaker 1: be the most talented quarterback they've ever had in the building,

1354
01:05:59,440 --> 01:06:02,280
Speaker 1: which is pretty amazing when you consider that Jay Cutler,

1355
01:06:02,560 --> 01:06:06,840
Speaker 1: for all of his squaws, was a remarkably gifted thrower. Um,

1356
01:06:07,040 --> 01:06:08,680
Speaker 1: you know, in the in the Bears thinks that he's

1357
01:06:08,720 --> 01:06:11,120
Speaker 1: more talented than anybody else they've ever had. Yeah, and

1358
01:06:11,160 --> 01:06:14,160
Speaker 1: I always thought Jay Cutler was really good under pressure too,

1359
01:06:14,400 --> 01:06:16,920
Speaker 1: handled it really well. But uh, hey, you know what

1360
01:06:17,080 --> 01:06:19,800
Speaker 1: a gambler would say about, you know, a quarterback from

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01:06:19,840 --> 01:06:23,840
Speaker 1: Ohio State and Chicago not having you know, a four

1362
01:06:23,920 --> 01:06:27,680
Speaker 1: thousand or three thousand yard passer. You're due, man, Patrick,

1363
01:06:27,800 --> 01:06:31,000
Speaker 1: You guys are due to have a good quarterback. I hope,

1364
01:06:31,160 --> 01:06:33,800
Speaker 1: I hope that he's the one. Every time that you're

1365
01:06:33,840 --> 01:06:37,600
Speaker 1: not playing the Seahawks. He's been fun to watch and

1366
01:06:38,080 --> 01:06:41,200
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, you sound like the optimistic gambler.

1367
01:06:41,320 --> 01:06:44,960
Speaker 1: I like, yeah, the worst kind, the worst kind. Yeah,

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01:06:45,680 --> 01:06:49,680
Speaker 1: all right, Patrick, we really appreciate you taking the time. Hey,

1369
01:06:49,760 --> 01:06:51,400
Speaker 1: thank you so much. Have a good have a good

1370
01:06:51,440 --> 01:06:54,440
Speaker 1: holiday guy. Yep, you too, Happy holidays. There's Patrick Finley

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01:06:54,520 --> 01:06:58,200
Speaker 1: from the Chicago Sun Times. Isn't that amazing about the

1372
01:06:59,040 --> 01:07:03,080
Speaker 1: quarterback situation there, Bump? I mean, it's never a guy

1373
01:07:03,360 --> 01:07:06,400
Speaker 1: to throw over what was it, three thousand yards? I

1374
01:07:06,480 --> 01:07:10,920
Speaker 1: still can't believe that. Yeah, especially when Jay Cutler has

1375
01:07:10,920 --> 01:07:13,200
Speaker 1: been there, because we know the arm talent that dude has, right,

1376
01:07:13,240 --> 01:07:16,360
Speaker 1: he has a freaking rocket. So yeah, that's surprising. Man.

1377
01:07:16,640 --> 01:07:20,600
Speaker 1: And Jim McMahon won one in eighty five and he's

1378
01:07:20,600 --> 01:07:22,240
Speaker 1: not even considered a great even though he won a

1379
01:07:22,280 --> 01:07:24,560
Speaker 1: Super Bowl for that for that franchise. Yeah, they've been

1380
01:07:24,560 --> 01:07:28,080
Speaker 1: struggling over there, Yeah, they absolutely have. But all right,

1381
01:07:28,120 --> 01:07:30,400
Speaker 1: well coming up next, we'll just wrap things up here

1382
01:07:30,560 --> 01:07:33,000
Speaker 1: kind of give our final thoughts. That's next on the

1383
01:07:33,080 --> 01:07:37,480
Speaker 1: Huddle with Dave Wyman and Michael bump Us. Welcome back

1384
01:07:37,520 --> 01:07:40,560
Speaker 1: to the huddle, Dave Wyman and Michael bump Us. Isn't

1385
01:07:40,560 --> 01:07:42,680
Speaker 1: that amazing, Bump when you when you look at Chicago

1386
01:07:42,880 --> 01:07:47,240
Speaker 1: and they're the highest number of touchdowns that a quarterback

1387
01:07:47,320 --> 01:07:49,440
Speaker 1: has thrown in a season. First of all, it was

1388
01:07:49,560 --> 01:07:54,720
Speaker 1: ninety five. It was Eric Kramer twenty nine, twenty nine touchdowns,

1389
01:07:54,840 --> 01:07:58,240
Speaker 1: and then thirty eight hundred yards, thirty eight hundred and

1390
01:07:58,280 --> 01:08:01,680
Speaker 1: thirty eight yards is so Eric Kramer, that's their best

1391
01:08:01,840 --> 01:08:04,720
Speaker 1: quarterback of all time. Do you remember Eric Kramer? I

1392
01:08:04,840 --> 01:08:07,680
Speaker 1: remember the name. I don't remember watching him play. Yeah,

1393
01:08:07,800 --> 01:08:10,200
Speaker 1: I mean that was in my last year in the league,

1394
01:08:10,240 --> 01:08:12,080
Speaker 1: and I think we played him in the preseason or something.

1395
01:08:12,160 --> 01:08:14,560
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's just it's amazing. And then yeah, the

1396
01:08:14,640 --> 01:08:18,559
Speaker 1: other thing about you know that he Patrick was talking

1397
01:08:18,600 --> 01:08:22,040
Speaker 1: about there from the Chicago Times, that Chicago Suntimes that

1398
01:08:22,760 --> 01:08:26,439
Speaker 1: you know that they they feel like, well also there's

1399
01:08:26,479 --> 01:08:29,599
Speaker 1: the Ohio State curse tom Zack being the best one,

1400
01:08:29,680 --> 01:08:32,639
Speaker 1: but they feel like he might be the guy. And uh,

1401
01:08:33,360 --> 01:08:35,960
Speaker 1: this was a guy that that kind of quarterback that

1402
01:08:36,200 --> 01:08:39,160
Speaker 1: that I hated, a guy that could run and take

1403
01:08:39,160 --> 01:08:42,479
Speaker 1: off running. And he's pretty pretty decent sized guy as well.

1404
01:08:42,720 --> 01:08:45,280
Speaker 1: So this, uh, this could be a challenge for the

1405
01:08:45,640 --> 01:08:48,360
Speaker 1: Seahawk defense, but I gotta believe they're gonna be pretty

1406
01:08:48,439 --> 01:08:51,920
Speaker 1: set to uh, you know, not let a rookie run

1407
01:08:52,040 --> 01:08:55,280
Speaker 1: all over the field and throw on him. Yeah, and

1408
01:08:55,400 --> 01:08:57,600
Speaker 1: then he has some weapons. Man Alan Robinson's had a

1409
01:08:57,680 --> 01:08:59,920
Speaker 1: tough year. He's been injured, got on the COVID list.

1410
01:09:00,000 --> 01:09:02,920
Speaker 1: He only has Fourny yards. Boy, Darniell Mooney receiver eight

1411
01:09:03,040 --> 01:09:06,280
Speaker 1: hundred yards, three touchdowns. They got some guys if you

1412
01:09:06,479 --> 01:09:09,240
Speaker 1: let them, who can stretch the field. But you would

1413
01:09:09,320 --> 01:09:11,519
Speaker 1: think that the way this defense has been playing ads

1414
01:09:11,520 --> 01:09:14,040
Speaker 1: of late, they're extremely confident and just get after him

1415
01:09:14,080 --> 01:09:15,479
Speaker 1: and make him look like a rookie. I mean, he

1416
01:09:15,560 --> 01:09:20,600
Speaker 1: has what seven touchdowns, ten interceptions, not super productive, but

1417
01:09:20,760 --> 01:09:23,280
Speaker 1: you're right, he is athletic. If they're space out there,

1418
01:09:23,400 --> 01:09:25,240
Speaker 1: he can get it and going. He's not a little

1419
01:09:25,320 --> 01:09:27,679
Speaker 1: dude either. Boy. And you know, one of the guys

1420
01:09:27,800 --> 01:09:30,000
Speaker 1: that I've been hearing a lot of people talking about

1421
01:09:30,439 --> 01:09:33,000
Speaker 1: Akiem Hicks, which I think he has three and three

1422
01:09:33,120 --> 01:09:36,000
Speaker 1: three and a half sacks, But Akeem Hicks is one

1423
01:09:36,040 --> 01:09:38,560
Speaker 1: of those guys that's just like a space eater on

1424
01:09:38,680 --> 01:09:42,560
Speaker 1: the inside, plays really well. He's got five tackles for

1425
01:09:42,720 --> 01:09:46,120
Speaker 1: loss and he's now on the COVID list. So but

1426
01:09:46,479 --> 01:09:49,479
Speaker 1: it's interesting, Bump, you know, And I know I said

1427
01:09:49,560 --> 01:09:52,240
Speaker 1: this two weeks ago that hey, when we go into

1428
01:09:52,280 --> 01:09:54,760
Speaker 1: the Chicago game, we're gonna go, Okay, this is gonna

1429
01:09:54,760 --> 01:09:56,800
Speaker 1: be a tough one because you throw the records out

1430
01:09:56,840 --> 01:09:59,640
Speaker 1: the window once you start getting into the film, and

1431
01:09:59,680 --> 01:10:03,120
Speaker 1: then next week probably be saying the same thing Detroit Lions.

1432
01:10:03,160 --> 01:10:06,360
Speaker 1: I mean they beat Arizona handily. I was like, by

1433
01:10:06,439 --> 01:10:09,880
Speaker 1: what eighteen points or something. So yeah, it's just it's

1434
01:10:09,920 --> 01:10:12,120
Speaker 1: interesting how each and every week and it was it

1435
01:10:12,240 --> 01:10:13,639
Speaker 1: that way for you when you were in the league.

1436
01:10:13,680 --> 01:10:16,240
Speaker 1: Do you do you remember that, like every week you

1437
01:10:16,320 --> 01:10:18,519
Speaker 1: didn't look at like I didn't look at stats. I

1438
01:10:18,600 --> 01:10:21,799
Speaker 1: didn't have any idea what somebody's you know, fantasy numbers

1439
01:10:21,920 --> 01:10:24,040
Speaker 1: or anything like that. Was I just went off of

1440
01:10:24,560 --> 01:10:28,000
Speaker 1: what do I see on film? And typically you were

1441
01:10:28,120 --> 01:10:32,519
Speaker 1: always impressed by at least a couple three things that

1442
01:10:32,680 --> 01:10:35,200
Speaker 1: you see on film from your opponent, regardless of their

1443
01:10:35,560 --> 01:10:38,479
Speaker 1: record exactly. And you know, when I was in the league,

1444
01:10:38,520 --> 01:10:41,479
Speaker 1: we weren't very good anyway, so it was like, you know,

1445
01:10:41,640 --> 01:10:44,680
Speaker 1: we were we accepted all challenges and knew we had

1446
01:10:44,720 --> 01:10:46,680
Speaker 1: to we had to play some good ball because we

1447
01:10:46,800 --> 01:10:48,760
Speaker 1: weren't a very good football team. But you're Ryan, Man,

1448
01:10:48,800 --> 01:10:51,160
Speaker 1: it's more about matches. Man. When I was playing, I

1449
01:10:51,240 --> 01:10:53,720
Speaker 1: looked at safeties, linebackers, and corners. I'm like, Okay, who

1450
01:10:53,760 --> 01:10:56,400
Speaker 1: am I going up against? And this is the NFL.

1451
01:10:56,560 --> 01:10:59,080
Speaker 1: I mean there's hundreds of thousands of high school football players.

1452
01:10:59,120 --> 01:11:01,519
Speaker 1: You break it down to thousands of college of players.

1453
01:11:01,720 --> 01:11:05,120
Speaker 1: There's only like, what two thousand players in the league,

1454
01:11:05,120 --> 01:11:07,799
Speaker 1: fifteen two thousand players Like these are the best athletes

1455
01:11:07,800 --> 01:11:10,320
Speaker 1: in the world in my opinion, And uh yeah, records

1456
01:11:10,439 --> 01:11:12,640
Speaker 1: mean nothing for us as we break it down, as

1457
01:11:12,680 --> 01:11:14,599
Speaker 1: we prepare for the game, we look at the numbers.

1458
01:11:14,680 --> 01:11:16,080
Speaker 1: What are they good at? What are they bad at?

1459
01:11:16,320 --> 01:11:18,200
Speaker 1: I don't think players look at it that way. They're like,

1460
01:11:18,280 --> 01:11:21,120
Speaker 1: this is a professional football team with some All Americans

1461
01:11:21,160 --> 01:11:23,839
Speaker 1: over there. Guarantee there's some All Americans on that football

1462
01:11:23,920 --> 01:11:26,639
Speaker 1: team right well, and you know, like when you watch

1463
01:11:26,680 --> 01:11:31,080
Speaker 1: a really good like Damian Lewis other than LSU, because

1464
01:11:31,120 --> 01:11:33,560
Speaker 1: like Damian Lewis was saying in our interview that you know,

1465
01:11:33,720 --> 01:11:36,559
Speaker 1: every week in the SEC, it's all practically like playing

1466
01:11:36,960 --> 01:11:39,720
Speaker 1: pro football. But yeah, you look at most guys who

1467
01:11:39,800 --> 01:11:42,560
Speaker 1: are out on the field in a college game and

1468
01:11:42,880 --> 01:11:45,680
Speaker 1: you know there's maybe what three guys four guys that

1469
01:11:45,760 --> 01:11:48,960
Speaker 1: are gonna make it into the NFL. So yeah, just

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Speaker 1: the absolute best. You know, I mentioned earlier that you always,

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Speaker 1: you know, you look at guys on film and you go, wow,

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Speaker 1: look at this guy, look at that guy. The one

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Speaker 1: time where that was not true was Tony Manderich. I

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Speaker 1: don't know if you remember him. He was from Michigan State.

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Speaker 1: He was a big offensive line. I think he was

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Speaker 1: the number one pick in the draft. And I remember

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Speaker 1: one of our defensive backs, the late Great Nesby Glasgow,

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Speaker 1: was like, hey, guys, come in here, you gotta watch this.

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Speaker 1: Look at how bad this guy is. But but other

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Speaker 1: than that, you just because he was just getting worked for,

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Speaker 1: you know, sack after sack, and he was just just

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Speaker 1: didn't and then he ended up actually I think he

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Speaker 1: went off steroids, which I think he was taken in

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Speaker 1: college and then ended up having a pretty decent career.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, he was the only guy that I looked

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Speaker 1: on film and go, wow, that guy's really bad right

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Speaker 1: now anyway, But everybody else, you know, there's always something

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Speaker 1: that's that's different about them. And that's why every week,

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Speaker 1: you know, we I think a lot of fans will

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Speaker 1: go through the roster and go, okay, Chicago, yeah that's

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Speaker 1: a win. Detroit, that's a win. Yeah not so fast, right, No,

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Speaker 1: especially when you look at their d defense too. Man,

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Speaker 1: say what you want about their offense, and on paper,

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Speaker 1: statistically their offense is better than ours, averaging a yard

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Speaker 1: more a game. But when you look at their defense

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Speaker 1: and what they do, man ranked ninth overall, great against

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Speaker 1: the past, them before against the past, don't cost too

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Speaker 1: many turnovers. They're losing that the turnover differential battle. But

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Speaker 1: they got some guys. Man. We talked about Quinn, who

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Speaker 1: gets after the quarterback. It's uh, the film never lies,

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Speaker 1: and I've watched film on these guys. And offensively, they

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Speaker 1: do some things that make you adjust. They're gonna line

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01:13:34,479 --> 01:13:37,040
Speaker 1: up receivers in the backfield at that running back spot,

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Speaker 1: try to get some matchup on some linebackers are gonna

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Speaker 1: release them. There just things that they do differently. And

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Speaker 1: I've seeing a lot more of than in the league too. Man.

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Speaker 1: I see the Rams do it, the Niners do it

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Speaker 1: with Deebo Samuel, Chicago Bears are doing it. So Jordan Brooks, Man,

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Speaker 1: they're gonna line up is it a grant back there,

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Speaker 1: They're gonna line them up in the backfield. Brooks is

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Speaker 1: gonna have to match up with him. Any team can

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Speaker 1: beat you in this league. We thought, like you said,

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Speaker 1: we thought the Detroit Lions were done. We thought they

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Speaker 1: were gonna go over and all of a sudden, I mean,

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Speaker 1: they've they've hit a switch and they're coming on late.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, you gotta be ready to go. So if

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Speaker 1: the Seahawks followed that followed suit there bump Dka in

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Speaker 1: the backfield? You think DK, I would I'd put I

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Speaker 1: put Esk in the backfield. Yeah. Yeah, it's because he

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Speaker 1: has more wiggle, you got. DC is not a wiggle

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Speaker 1: type of guy, you know, he's a straight line type

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Speaker 1: of dude. I put d back there. Yeah, maybe a

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Speaker 1: little more power from DK. But yeah, that's a good

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Speaker 1: that's a good call. And I think a couple of

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Speaker 1: the things I'm gonna be interested to see this weekend

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Speaker 1: will number one will be first of all, gosh, I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's so rare that you say this, but I don't think.

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Speaker 1: I don't think Russ had a very good game, you know,

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Speaker 1: I mean fifty four percent completion percentage and him missing

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Speaker 1: a deep ball. I think what I'm most curious to

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Speaker 1: see other than the run game and and Rashad Penny

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Speaker 1: and you know, can they continue to get it done?

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Speaker 1: But um, but yeah, how much of a difference Tyler

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Speaker 1: Locke and missing him makes because you know, we never

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Speaker 1: and around the country, nobody really knows Tyler Lockett and

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Speaker 1: who he is. He's got like ten over ten thousand

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Speaker 1: all purpose yards since he entered the league in two

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Speaker 1: thousand and fifteen, and I believe that's number one. I

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Speaker 1: think Julio Jones is up there as well, but since

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Speaker 1: two thousand and fifteen, nobody's had more more multi you know,

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Speaker 1: all purpose yards. So yeah, he just doesn't get that

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Speaker 1: kind of respect. He's not pointing to his name plate,

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01:15:31,960 --> 01:15:34,679
Speaker 1: but what do you see? Like to me, what it is, Bump.

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01:15:35,040 --> 01:15:39,400
Speaker 1: His moves are so subtle it's almost like you can't

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Speaker 1: read him. And I've seen him get so many defensive

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Speaker 1: backs hips turned the wrong way kind of you know,

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01:15:45,840 --> 01:15:48,000
Speaker 1: like Rabel said, you know he was talking about Steve

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Speaker 1: Largent comparing him to Cooper Cup. But that's what Steve

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Speaker 1: Largent used to do. It was it was a very

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Speaker 1: subtle move that he had. It's unorthodox. Man. No one

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Speaker 1: moves light Tyler Lockett. If you look at the top

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Speaker 1: receivers in the league and people think are the top Hopkins,

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01:16:05,479 --> 01:16:08,559
Speaker 1: DeVante Adams, you can throw a DK in there. They're all.

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Speaker 1: They all do something similarly, Like their movements are similar,

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Speaker 1: their route tree, the way they break out the top

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Speaker 1: of the routes. I kid you not, Dave. Tyler Lockett

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01:16:16,760 --> 01:16:19,240
Speaker 1: runs his routes differently than anyone I've ever seen. His

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Speaker 1: releases are different, so it's hard to prepare for. It's unorthodox.

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Speaker 1: Man Like he catches his hand selection is different when

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Speaker 1: he catches the football, it's it's hard to prepare for,

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Speaker 1: and he just makes the big play. Yeah, that's interesting,

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Speaker 1: And I like that the way you put it unorthodox

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Speaker 1: because you know, you're used to guys running, you know,

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Speaker 1: Chris Brouts, and you always talk about how you know

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Speaker 1: you have to run Chris Browts in order to get

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Speaker 1: you know, you can't cut it off or round it off.

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01:16:45,600 --> 01:16:48,320
Speaker 1: But he just sort of has a knack of doing that.

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Speaker 1: And then you know his hands. The last time I

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Speaker 1: remember Bump Tyler Lockett having a legitimate just dropped past

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Speaker 1: was the Miami game last year. He was wide open.

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Speaker 1: And the only reason I remember it is because it's

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Speaker 1: so rare is he just typically will will come up.

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Speaker 1: And I put it this way the other day on

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Speaker 1: our show, finding himself wide open typically and then you know,

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Speaker 1: just amazing hands. When we don't probably don't talk enough

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Speaker 1: about you know, his catch ratio and how good his

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Speaker 1: hands are. Yeah, hands are are good. He has good

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Speaker 1: space awareness. He knows where he is on the football

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Speaker 1: field at all times. I saw Diesker's catch a ball

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Speaker 1: that last game in the previous game, and he catches

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Speaker 1: in and tries to get a field but he's already

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01:17:32,720 --> 01:17:35,040
Speaker 1: out of bounce, you know, like looks like a rookie

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01:17:35,080 --> 01:17:36,840
Speaker 1: doesn't know where he is on the field. I never

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Speaker 1: feel that way with Tyler Lockett. He knows where the

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Speaker 1: sideline is, he knows where the space is in the

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Speaker 1: middle of the field, and he knows how to manipulate

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Speaker 1: defenders just with those subtle movements that you talk about.

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Speaker 1: He's he's crafty man. He's like that. He's like that

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Speaker 1: coyote that that's always at my golf course at Echo Falls,

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01:17:53,360 --> 01:17:55,639
Speaker 1: who's picking up golf balls and sneaking around. You see

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01:17:55,680 --> 01:17:57,400
Speaker 1: him here now he's over there. He's just I'm like,

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Speaker 1: you never know where he is. That's Tyler Locke right there.

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Speaker 1: I'd like it. So the coyote actually picks up your

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01:18:03,840 --> 01:18:05,960
Speaker 1: golf ball. It will pick up the golf ball and run.

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Speaker 1: That's hilarious, all right, Bump, Well, Hey, it was great

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Speaker 1: being on with you man, Good job and hope to

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Speaker 1: see you soon. Happy holidays, bump same to you, sir. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I want to thank John Boyle from seahawks dot Com,

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01:18:19,360 --> 01:18:22,599
Speaker 1: Big Ray Roberts. In the trenches, we talked to Damien Lewis,

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Speaker 1: Colby Parkinson, and Steve Rabel. You've been listening to the

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Speaker 1: Huddle with Dave Wyman and Michael Bumpus.