1 00:00:02,279 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: I'm a homegrown that knows a little bit about everything 2 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:05,640 Speaker 1: and everybody. 3 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:08,240 Speaker 2: You know, if you don't lie about that, right, Lauren 4 00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:08,680 Speaker 2: came in. 5 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:10,720 Speaker 3: Hey, y'all, what's up. 6 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 1: It's Lauren Rosa and this is the latest with Lauren Rosa. 7 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:18,080 Speaker 1: This is your deadly dig on all things pop culture, entertainment, news, 8 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:21,480 Speaker 1: and all of the conversations that shake the room. Baby, 9 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:25,240 Speaker 1: I'm in here looking like a little boy today. I'm 10 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 1: so comfortable though. I just wonder where my trucker had 11 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 1: and I was like, I need to swag it. 12 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 3: Out all comfortability. We got Tailor on the podcast today. 13 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:34,520 Speaker 3: Taylor made it okay. 14 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:36,599 Speaker 1: So checking in behind the scenes of the ground. I'm 15 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 1: excited to get to the conversation. So the check in, 16 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:44,920 Speaker 1: shall we brief? So checking it behind the scenes of 17 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:48,280 Speaker 1: the grind. How would your Valentine's say. 18 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 3: You guys wark with me? 19 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:52,600 Speaker 2: My VALENTI was really good. We went to the steakhouse 20 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 2: I cannot remember the name, but it's a steakhouse in 21 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 2: Jersey or New York, l New York, Okay Kyo or 22 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 2: something like that. And the food was so good. And 23 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 2: you know why it's good because we didn't feel any 24 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 2: items afterwards, like we felt still energized with all that meat, and. 25 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:10,119 Speaker 1: Did you have to put steak sauce on the stick? 26 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 1: That's a good steak. That's a good steak right there. 27 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 1: We gotta put no stick sauce on it. I'm supposed 28 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 1: to be laying off of red meat. That was my 29 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 1: first thing I was supposed to be doing. And then 30 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 1: now I just challenged myself to thirty days with no 31 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:27,959 Speaker 1: juice and no soda, supposed to be just water for 32 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 1: thirty days because I want to see, like if it 33 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 1: helps me not be tired. No, it really does. So 34 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:36,959 Speaker 1: I'm tired right now. I'm tired right now. But Valentine, 35 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:39,319 Speaker 1: My Valentine's Day was good. I had to reroute or 36 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 1: we had to reroute our plans, and we stayed close 37 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 1: to Delaware because my mom got sick, so I just 38 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 1: wanted to make sure I was close to the home 39 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 1: for her. But it was good though, I think so 40 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 1: Friday it was like rush home, figure out everything with mom. 41 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 1: Saturday we went to Baltimore. We went to the New 42 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 1: Audition concert. It's New Audition, Boyce to Men and Tony 43 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 1: Braxton the like on every time I go to concerts, 44 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:10,960 Speaker 1: with people from like a certain era. I always feel like, 45 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 1: you know, you've be telling me, like you made me 46 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 1: feel like I'm not doing nothing when I watch them perform, 47 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:18,079 Speaker 1: and I'm not a singer or anything like that. When 48 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 1: I watch them perform though, especially at this age, and 49 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 1: like just the effort and the showmanship that they put 50 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:25,799 Speaker 1: into it, I'm like, yo, I'm lazy. 51 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 3: I am lazy. 52 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 1: Like, how dare I wake up the morning of and 53 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 1: do my notes for the show or decide on my 54 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 1: way to the podcast what we're going to talk about? 55 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 3: Like you them pairing your. 56 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 2: Work network gets crazy? 57 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 3: They are the great. 58 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:43,079 Speaker 1: I want to be one of the great, like I 59 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:46,079 Speaker 1: want yo, Like I promise you this. It was full, 60 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 1: like we were at the It was an arena. It 61 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 1: was full, and everybody was like up and dancing and 62 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 1: single all of the songs. Bobby Brown came out. I 63 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:57,799 Speaker 1: was so excited. I kept saying, I love you bye, babe. 64 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 1: But Bobby Brown came out, and I was so excited. 65 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:03,359 Speaker 1: It's like the celebrity of them, it's so big. I 66 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:04,920 Speaker 1: felt like that when it came to the Breakfast Club too, 67 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, I can't believe this is new addition 68 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:09,680 Speaker 1: and voice of men sitting right here in front of me, 69 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:13,919 Speaker 1: but seeing the crowd react to their songs, but just 70 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 1: really react to them like they're just I don't know, 71 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:19,240 Speaker 1: they're just so good at what they do. 72 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 2: Any No songs back then were something that I feel 73 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 2: bad for this New Journey should come out. That's missing it, Like. 74 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 3: We don't have it. 75 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:30,359 Speaker 2: You don't know what real songs and real vocals are, 76 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 2: for real, for. 77 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:33,639 Speaker 1: Real, even listening we were listening to the music on 78 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 1: the way to the concert and like just listening because 79 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 1: some of the songs were so old, they were so young, 80 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 1: so their voices sound so different, and we were listening 81 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 1: to it and we were like, yo, they've been doing 82 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 1: this for so long successfully, Like listen to their voices, 83 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 1: they sound like babies. And then to see them on stage, 84 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 1: and not only are they on stage, but they do 85 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 1: outfit changes like they look like a Everything is quality. 86 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 1: The look, the fabrics, I mean, the lighting is hitting 87 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 1: the certain jackets, even their placement was on point. They're 88 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 1: doing the dances like I felt like I was literally 89 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 1: watching the New Edition movie. And then when Tony Braxton 90 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 1: came on stage, I was like, this is not real. 91 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 1: Like she is not a real person. She sounds just 92 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 1: like she sounds when you press play on like Apple's Wow. 93 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 3: Like it was. I love boys to men. 94 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:27,600 Speaker 1: They looked amazing too, like same thing, ensemble together, they 95 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 1: look amazing. I just wish I could hear them. I 96 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 1: was really looking forward because I think when you think 97 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:35,840 Speaker 1: about boys to men, you think about harmony. I was 98 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 1: looking forward to hearing them tear it down go a 99 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 1: cappella at some points and were they first No, So well, okay, 100 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 1: I missed the very very opening because we went to 101 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 1: the front entrance and then we had to go back 102 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 1: around the side to meet the. 103 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:53,160 Speaker 3: Girl from the Black Promoter's Collective. 104 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 1: Shout out to Black Promoters Collective who it was so 105 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:59,599 Speaker 1: last minute us figuring out going to this tour, just 106 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 1: because I had to be home with my mom, and 107 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 1: they figured it out, like so they came and grabbed 108 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 1: us from like the side entrance. When we came in, 109 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 1: I saw Birdman and that I mean, that's it's like 110 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 1: all these legends just like in here, just chilling. So 111 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 1: it's Birdman and then he's walking it's like a hood 112 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 1: on full gray Beard. 113 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:20,599 Speaker 3: So it's like yes, and he could grow a beard. 114 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 1: It threw me off It threw me off guard too, 115 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 1: because I don't know, like, just to see them aging 116 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:29,600 Speaker 1: when you've always known them to they're kind of like 117 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 1: fairy tale characters to me, like Birdman and master P 118 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 1: and new addition, Bobby Brown Boys, the Men, Tony Braxton, 119 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 1: like these are all people that are timeless to me 120 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:42,920 Speaker 1: because of the big iconic careers that they've had across 121 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:46,480 Speaker 1: various genres of music or whatever. But yeah, we were 122 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 1: literally walking in and he walked by. He had his 123 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:49,920 Speaker 1: hood on, but I saw the gray beard and he, 124 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 1: you know, he always has the glasses on. 125 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:52,359 Speaker 3: I was like, is that Berdman? 126 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:54,919 Speaker 1: And the girl that was walking us in from the 127 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 1: Black Promoter's Collective, she like laughed a little bit. 128 00:05:57,880 --> 00:05:59,839 Speaker 3: She was like, yeah, that's him. I'm like, oh like it. 129 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 3: And I don't get it wasn't even like a starstruck. 130 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 1: It just was like y'all just all in here, chilling, 131 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 1: like y'all got all of this iconism in. 132 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 3: Here, just chilling like this. Like so yeah, it was 133 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:11,680 Speaker 3: just good to see. 134 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:13,839 Speaker 1: But it was so good to see them and show 135 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:16,159 Speaker 1: It just makes you want I mean, it made me 136 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 1: untightened up. I'm like, Okay, I gotta care about my presentation, 137 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 1: not just my physical presentation, but the presentation. 138 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 3: Of my work. 139 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 1: Because you could tell even with Boys the Men, even 140 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 1: though I wish I could hear them better, and I 141 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:31,720 Speaker 1: wish that it's weird because like you could hear them singing. 142 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:34,720 Speaker 1: I have a clip we'll play. You could hear them singing. 143 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 1: But it just wasn't the live performance I thought I 144 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 1: was gonna get from Bois Men. 145 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:42,599 Speaker 3: I can't describe it, but I get you're saying, yeah. 146 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 1: I would give it another shot, but I want I 147 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 1: go there listening to their like music and preparation, and 148 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 1: then when you hear them, the track is louder than 149 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 1: they are in my opinion, So that was my only critique. 150 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 1: But I don't know, like just the way that they 151 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 1: are about their craft and how they present it, and 152 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 1: you can tell, yo, you could tell them boys be practicing, 153 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 1: Oh my god, I mean the dance steps is on point. 154 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 1: Even Bobby Brown, like I know that there's a video 155 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 1: going viral of him talking about like he don't dance, 156 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 1: and I do have that clip he did that moment 157 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 1: in the show. But even Bobby Brown, like he has 158 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 1: like a solo some solo parts because he comes on 159 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 1: stage and then goes off stage. And I'm not mad 160 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 1: at him for knowing when it's time for him to 161 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 1: take a chill pill. 162 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 3: Not mad at him at all, because we want our 163 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 3: legend here. 164 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 1: We wouldn't want him working and you know, burn hisself 165 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 1: out all of them, to be honest with you, But 166 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 1: when they were like doing their like ensemble dances, and 167 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 1: like say, for instance, if Bobby Brown was in the front, 168 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 1: he would just look back real quick and then get 169 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 1: in lockstep with them with the dances, and then they 170 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 1: would switch and maybe Bobby would go like off to 171 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 1: the back to the side, and then another member of 172 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:49,120 Speaker 1: New Audition would come up. 173 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 3: Like it was just good. It was a show. 174 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 2: I'm gonna see them next month, so you're. 175 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 3: Going to love New Edition, Like I'm pro. Everybody was great. 176 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 1: I love Tony, I love boys submit, but a new 177 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 1: addition made me feel like it was a hug. I 178 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 1: don't know, maybe because I thought about the movie or something, 179 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 1: but I don't know. They just made me feel like 180 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 1: it was like I was literally being hugged by like 181 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 1: my grandma or like my mom or something. Yeah, but 182 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 1: I was being hugged by my men because it was 183 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 1: Valentine's Day and it was it was great. You know, 184 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 1: we went out to eat afterwards. We went to a 185 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 1: spot called Angie's Seafood. Actually went there twice. I had 186 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 1: such good crabs. The night after the concert, I was like, 187 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 1: can we go back before we leave? So we did 188 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 1: that and then we dipped. So it was It was 189 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 1: a great time, and I got the Sea family unexpectedly 190 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 1: this weekend. 191 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:38,560 Speaker 3: Yes, but you know what else happened this weekend? 192 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:46,280 Speaker 2: The Top Model documentary Girl. Oh wait, wait, let's take 193 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:48,560 Speaker 2: a commercial break and then let's get back into it. 194 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 1: You gotta pause me a little bit when I'm talking 195 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:55,960 Speaker 1: about that, because Okay, so I'm a huge Top Model fan. 196 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:59,559 Speaker 1: I auditioned for Top Model probably like six times, like 197 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:02,680 Speaker 1: one to be on the show. I just knew that 198 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 1: Tyra Banks and s'mising was gonna be my claim to everything. 199 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:07,959 Speaker 3: I thought, that's how y'all was gonna meet me. I'm 200 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 3: not even gonna lie. 201 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 1: I thought I was going to be on America's X 202 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:13,760 Speaker 1: Time Model. The last year I auditioned was twenty ten, 203 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 1: which was the year that I went to college, and 204 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 1: I made it to I got like one callback. 205 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 3: I made it to like the they called. 206 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:24,200 Speaker 1: You back and you're in this room for the models 207 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:26,720 Speaker 1: in New York and they ain't never called me back 208 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 1: again after that. 209 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 3: But that was the furthest I made it. What's the 210 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 3: audition though? 211 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 2: You have to walk? 212 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:36,680 Speaker 1: So yeah, you come in, you walk, so there's like 213 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:40,840 Speaker 1: a huge audition and I have like photos, wait. 214 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:42,720 Speaker 3: You know what, I think I'm gonna post that. Yeah, 215 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 3: I have photos my cousin from one year I went. 216 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:49,200 Speaker 3: I think this, how many how many time did you audition? 217 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 1: I auditioned a good like I used to, so every 218 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 1: year from the time I turned it, cause I think 219 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 1: you had to be eighteen to go by yourself. So 220 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:57,199 Speaker 1: from the time I could go by myself up until 221 00:09:57,240 --> 00:10:00,200 Speaker 1: my freshman year of college, I auditioned every time they 222 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:01,839 Speaker 1: had an audition, so it probably was like five or 223 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 1: six times. I was so serious about getting on that 224 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 1: show because I thought getting on Top Model would be 225 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 1: like a platform and then like once I got on, 226 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 1: I could like figure everything else out because I wanted 227 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:16,200 Speaker 1: to model, I wanted to act, I wanted to do 228 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 1: the talk show things. So I was like, I'll get 229 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 1: on there, you know, Tyren's a megastar, will figure it out. 230 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 1: Met somebody who was like, you know, working with the 231 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 1: team in another instance, not at the audition, and she 232 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:29,439 Speaker 1: changed the trajectory in my life. I text her last 233 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 1: night and said thank you, Like God knew I needed 234 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 1: to meet you. You literally saved my life. Kind of 235 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:37,959 Speaker 1: maybe not that I think, you know anything would have 236 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 1: happened to me. 237 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:40,560 Speaker 3: I don't know if I would have. I don't know 238 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 3: what my experience on the Shade would have been. 239 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:45,200 Speaker 1: But she was When I met her and told her, like, 240 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:47,439 Speaker 1: you need to cast me for Top Model, she was like. 241 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 3: No, I don't. And I'm like, yes, you do. Why 242 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 3: are you telling me that? 243 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 1: And she was like, if you really want to be 244 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 1: in this industry, let's talk about what you want to do. 245 00:10:57,160 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 1: You don't need this. This does not need to be 246 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 1: your entry. And I was like what. But watching the show, 247 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:05,200 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know. Because Eva has had a 248 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:08,199 Speaker 1: great career to car we talked about we talked to 249 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 1: to Carr here on the podcast. 250 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:13,840 Speaker 2: We did research before the show, and a lot of 251 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:15,600 Speaker 2: the girls seemed to have some success. 252 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:18,440 Speaker 1: They're still doing things that are modeling, like right, like 253 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 1: whether they're like teaching classes or modeling themselves. 254 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 2: Well, I'll say the winners. I don't know about everyone 255 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 2: that was actually. 256 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:28,840 Speaker 3: On this see but Takara didn't win her season. 257 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I think that season in general was what 258 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 2: season was that season three six? I don't remember, but 259 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 2: I feel like that season stuff because they that's when 260 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 2: they had Eva, ya Ya Takara, and I feel like 261 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 2: it was just. 262 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 1: I've reached out to ya Ya. I've reached out to Takara. 263 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 1: We had her on the podcast Go checked out that episode. 264 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:54,080 Speaker 1: We did an interview with her prior to the documentary dropping, 265 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 1: and I told her I was going to circle back 266 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 1: once it came out. 267 00:11:56,800 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 3: Did circle back behalf and her back? 268 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:01,080 Speaker 1: I also reached out to Eva's team, and I reached 269 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 1: out to ya Ya's team as well. 270 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 3: Bree was on the documentary. She was another one of 271 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 3: my favorites. 272 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:10,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I wanted to hear from like, uh the 273 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 2: girl Jade. I wanted to hear definitely from Tiffany. 274 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:16,719 Speaker 1: The Girl No Baby, I don't think we had enough 275 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:19,720 Speaker 1: time to hear from Tiffany. Tiffany is currently online right 276 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 1: now airing The Girls Out. I want to read for 277 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 1: you hearing the Girls out Aaron Tyra Bank. 278 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 3: Okay, let's say liked. 279 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:28,320 Speaker 1: So for those of you guys who do not remember 280 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 1: Tiffany or her season of Top Model, might remember from 281 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 1: this clip. Yes, from this moment undeniably one of the 282 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 1: biggest moments in Top Model history. 283 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 3: And they were very honest about that in uh. 284 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:43,839 Speaker 1: The documentary itself, just talking about how big this moment was, 285 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 1: because I mean, Tyra got vulnerable as heck, but it 286 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:47,560 Speaker 1: was a lot. 287 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 3: Of that's on. 288 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:50,600 Speaker 2: That's the only time I felt like she was vulnerable 289 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:51,559 Speaker 2: during the whole thing. 290 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 1: I felt like Tyra was vulnerable throughout the Top Model 291 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:56,960 Speaker 1: seasons when she would be fighting. 292 00:12:56,640 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 2: For like the documentary. In the documentary, yeah, I don't 293 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:02,080 Speaker 2: think she was vulnerable, tyber Banks, you don't think she 294 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:04,200 Speaker 2: was vulnerable. I feel like she was one of those 295 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 2: things where it was just like she was talking about it, 296 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 2: but she didn't have any empathy. 297 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 3: We're sorry. 298 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 2: I don't think she not necessarily weren't sorry, but just 299 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 2: it was kind of just like, yeah, I said that, 300 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:17,440 Speaker 2: but I mean the producers were like, I don't know, 301 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 2: it was just like it wasn't her taking accountability of it, 302 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:24,720 Speaker 2: and it's and I think Jess felt the same way. 303 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:27,320 Speaker 1: Just hilarious because when I mentioned earlier on the Breakfast Club, 304 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 1: we talked about this there too. I was like, Tyber 305 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:31,600 Speaker 1: was taking accountability bit. She was like really, and I 306 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 1: was like, what a little bit? I just think so 307 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 1: the name of the documentary, go ahead. The name of 308 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:39,840 Speaker 1: the documentary is Reality Check Inside America's Next Top Model. 309 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:43,200 Speaker 1: So it's three episodes. So the first episode is on Top. 310 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 1: How do you know you want to be on Top? 311 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 1: I still remember the theme song TV so good? 312 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 3: Oh my god, TV used to be so good. 313 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 1: Like the fact that I remember the theme song, I 314 00:13:57,160 --> 00:14:01,199 Speaker 1: remember like sitting and watching upn No. Because watching this 315 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:04,840 Speaker 1: documentary really makes you whether you were a Top Model 316 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:06,679 Speaker 1: fan or not. I think it reminds you of an 317 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 1: era where like reality TV and storytelling was in a 318 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:11,079 Speaker 1: whole different place. 319 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 3: A completely different place. 320 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 1: The second episode is called still in the Running, which 321 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:17,360 Speaker 1: is what Tyra would say at the end of each 322 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 1: episode when she would like be voting some of the 323 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 1: models off based on who did well on the photo 324 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:24,480 Speaker 1: shoot challenges, She'd be like, still in the running, and 325 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 1: that means that you weren't being voted off and in 326 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 1: rooting for you that goes back to the moment with 327 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 1: the model of Tiffany that we were talking about. But yeah, 328 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 1: so Top Model early two thousand show dominated the airwaves 329 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 1: and now this documentary jobs in what Taylor was talking about. 330 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:43,600 Speaker 1: When it comes to Tyra and accountability, a lot of 331 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 1: people for a very long time have always criticized Tyra 332 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 1: Banks for some of the decisions she made as the 333 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 1: EP and one of the creators of America's Next Top Model, 334 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:58,960 Speaker 1: everything from you know, the things that she allowed the 335 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:02,360 Speaker 1: women to en were when it came to like there 336 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 1: were you know, we talked it to Car here on 337 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 1: the podcast. Make sure y'all check that episode out about 338 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 1: an incident where you know, her weight came into question. 339 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 3: They were. 340 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 1: And they were literally like grabbing at her waist and 341 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 1: didn't have clothes for her. And then you know, we 342 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 1: got to hear from one of the girls and I 343 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 1: believe it was episode one. Was it episode one where 344 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 1: we talked about, I don't know, we got to hear 345 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 1: from Brie. Not Brie, We got there from Danny. 346 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 2: Danny who you know, there was a whole the black 347 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 2: the black girl had to get her gap closed up, 348 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:37,480 Speaker 2: but then the white girl came in there. 349 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:39,160 Speaker 3: Like this and she this will. 350 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 2: That's what bothered me about it because in that moment, 351 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 2: Tyra was like. 352 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 3: She blamed. Yeah, she panted that she goes. 353 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 2: I mean they were told me one air like she 354 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 2: would never make it, so you know, I just went 355 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 2: with it. But it's like, Terry, you're going against what 356 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 2: you were trying to. 357 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 3: Do with the show. 358 00:15:55,160 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 1: And that's the thing I think for Tyra Banks to be, 359 00:15:57,880 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 1: you know, iconic, right, she's a icon supermodel. I saw 360 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:05,000 Speaker 1: somebody saying threads, Tyra Banks was never on top because 361 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 1: she doesn't have as many Vogue covers as like a 362 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:10,080 Speaker 1: Naoma Campbell, And I'm like, girl, do you understand how 363 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 1: hard it was for a black supermodel period. 364 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 3: Let's not count volt covers movies. 365 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 1: Tyra Banks was one of the biggest models in the 366 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:19,440 Speaker 1: world and one of the. 367 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 3: Not even just black models. 368 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 1: She was one of the biggest models in the world, 369 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 1: biggest Black models in the world, right. But her thing 370 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 1: was the fact that they called her plusize and she 371 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 1: was a black woman. So for you to come in 372 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 1: this and there are some episodes that they showed throughout 373 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:35,800 Speaker 1: this where she's like fighting back, you know her and 374 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 1: Jane and Dickinson used to get into it over like 375 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 1: the weight conversation and Jane is telling the girls to 376 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 1: lose weight. In Tarbra, it's like, you know, but then 377 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 1: you have things like she's calling you know, there's one 378 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 1: model that was a seasons early on and they called 379 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 1: her ashy and talked about how rough her skin. 380 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 2: Was, and and the girl they were talking about, Ebony. 381 00:16:56,920 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I don't know what they were talking about. 382 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:00,240 Speaker 2: Her skin looks smooth. 383 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:04,399 Speaker 3: But that was the thing. I think. I think what 384 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:06,040 Speaker 3: it was was that you have. 385 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 1: It goes back to what you said about Tyra not 386 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:13,080 Speaker 1: sticking to what she the purpose in some of it, 387 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:15,399 Speaker 1: but I think some of it she had to do 388 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 1: for the plot that. 389 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 2: Because that's the thing that's the problem. 390 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, because that girl, Ebony's skin was flawless, she was beautiful. 391 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:23,239 Speaker 3: That is why Tyra chose her. 392 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:26,440 Speaker 2: We could all look at Ebony and see what Tyra 393 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:28,680 Speaker 2: was trying to do with Ebone as a model, right, 394 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 2: And then when they shave her hair and they're talking 395 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 2: about the texture of her hair. 396 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:34,360 Speaker 3: Look at who's shaving her hair. They don't look like us. 397 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:36,879 Speaker 1: And then you're talking about the retouching and how the 398 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:39,800 Speaker 1: photos aren't coming out correctly. But that has always been 399 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 1: a thing in the industry of like not only like 400 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 1: makeup shades and stuff like that not matching, but like 401 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:48,240 Speaker 1: who's your art department, who's shooting the girls, who's lighting them? 402 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:51,920 Speaker 3: Do they understand our skin? Do they understand our tones? 403 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:55,199 Speaker 1: And and I think you know she felt through to 404 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:59,439 Speaker 1: the wayside and with Ebonie when they talked about the 405 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 1: fact that she was a lesbian. Oh yeah, and she 406 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 1: was like, she didn't have a chance to. You could 407 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 1: never do that today. You could never like basically put 408 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:10,120 Speaker 1: a person in a position where they have to out 409 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 1: themselves in order to participate in something. 410 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 2: I thought I heard it wrong. I thought she was 411 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:16,160 Speaker 2: like she didn't care. 412 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:19,919 Speaker 1: So they knew she put it on her application, But 413 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:22,200 Speaker 1: she said a lot of her family in the world, 414 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:25,320 Speaker 1: her the world, like that was her car. Her calling 415 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 1: card was She's a lesbian black girl, you know what 416 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 1: I mean. But then she said her family for the 417 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:34,399 Speaker 1: most part found out from the show, and she was 418 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:37,240 Speaker 1: saying that she wished that they had kind of given 419 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 1: her the option to build out her story a little 420 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:41,840 Speaker 1: bit more before leaning into like, oh, you're gay and 421 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:43,040 Speaker 1: a lot of because a lot of the women in 422 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:45,439 Speaker 1: the house weren't comfortable with they had, like the super 423 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:48,920 Speaker 1: white Christian girls who were like, oh my god, you're gay. 424 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:52,440 Speaker 3: What the hell ain't you black? And I do understand. 425 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 3: I mean, it's a show at the end of the days. 426 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:56,800 Speaker 2: And that's the thing too when it comes to that thing. 427 00:18:56,920 --> 00:19:01,640 Speaker 2: Also entertainment wise, in this business, I do feel like 428 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:07,560 Speaker 2: Tyra got too did to like, oh, this is gonna 429 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:10,359 Speaker 2: be great for the show, regardless of what it was like, 430 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:14,040 Speaker 2: and that's why the challenges were so kind of crazy 431 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 2: out there. 432 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 1: But I think if I'm and I'm not defending Tyra, right, don't. 433 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:22,199 Speaker 1: I don't know how I feel either way. It's like 434 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:25,960 Speaker 1: I understand people's upset, but I also understand the industry 435 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 1: at the time. I you know, as a person that, 436 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:30,480 Speaker 1: like I told y'all like modeling, I thought that was 437 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:32,439 Speaker 1: going to be the thing that I was doing. The 438 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:34,240 Speaker 1: only reason I ended up over here on the entertainment 439 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:38,159 Speaker 1: side is because in the couture space, which is what 440 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:41,879 Speaker 1: she was grumin these girls for, I was literally told, girl, 441 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:45,760 Speaker 1: you have too much personality. You are darker skinned in 442 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:48,600 Speaker 1: your boobs, are big in your lips are big. 443 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 3: Where are you going? What couature, runaway or magazine is 444 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:53,239 Speaker 3: ever going to have you. 445 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:55,119 Speaker 2: I don't even know what that means. 446 00:19:55,520 --> 00:20:00,199 Speaker 1: That means that I'm not white and coke thin. That 447 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 1: was the industry standard for a very long time. So 448 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:05,360 Speaker 1: I think you know she and not just the fact 449 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:07,639 Speaker 1: that she focused on bringing black women in, because she 450 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 1: was bringing in girls of white, black, yellow, and different 451 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 1: who all had something to get over, whether it was weight, 452 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 1: whether it was self confidence, whether it was there like 453 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 1: their their religious backgrounds which would prevent them from work, 454 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:21,800 Speaker 1: like different things that would prevent them from working. 455 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:22,640 Speaker 3: Because there was so. 456 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:24,720 Speaker 1: Much to be up against, and that was Tyra's story, 457 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 1: So I understand what she was trying to do. I 458 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:30,600 Speaker 1: just think there's no way Tyra is never not going 459 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:32,800 Speaker 1: to be the villain in the America's except Model story 460 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:35,120 Speaker 1: because she did what she had to do to produce 461 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 1: a television show. 462 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:36,679 Speaker 3: At the end of the day. 463 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 2: And I was telling you that earlier. I was like, 464 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:40,639 Speaker 2: at the end of the day too, so many people 465 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:43,719 Speaker 2: that's outraged. You still was watching the show, though, so 466 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:48,960 Speaker 2: how outrage I know I was side like, I don't remember, 467 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not really outraged. 468 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:53,960 Speaker 3: Now, none of that average nothing surprised me. 469 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:57,120 Speaker 1: I do think looking back though, it was the first 470 00:20:57,160 --> 00:20:58,560 Speaker 1: time where I felt like an adult. 471 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:01,720 Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, shoot, looking back, that was crazy. 472 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:04,080 Speaker 1: You're not like older people say that to you, like 473 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:07,199 Speaker 1: many our day would do this and our day that 474 00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 1: I felt like, shoot, that was my day and I 475 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:11,040 Speaker 1: didn't even know. 476 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:14,360 Speaker 3: I didn't even know. The shower stuff with Shandy. 477 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:16,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, so there was a girl from US Cycle two, 478 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 1: season two who did so it's being labeled as a 479 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 1: sexual assault, but during the time the episode aired as 480 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 1: if she had just gotten too drunk, gotten a shower 481 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:32,440 Speaker 1: with a guy, had sex, and she did on her boyfriend. 482 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 1: But she had said, you know, she says that she 483 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 1: had communicated that she was not coherent enough to make 484 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:43,600 Speaker 1: certain decisions, and you know, all of that. But even if, right, like, 485 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:46,560 Speaker 1: even if the words sexual assault were not being thrown 486 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 1: around or being brought up with Shandy's episode, I still 487 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 1: think it's crazy to record some of the. 488 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:57,479 Speaker 2: Stuff that they were recording. And I don't know if 489 00:21:57,520 --> 00:22:00,240 Speaker 2: I thought it was crazy then, because that's the start 490 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 2: telling you, like, because reality TV, that wasn't the first time. Yeah, 491 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:09,240 Speaker 2: that and maybe That's why I was like, Okay, sure. 492 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:12,399 Speaker 3: I think we just had different limits. Like I was 493 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 3: surprised that. 494 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:16,200 Speaker 2: The girls weren't able to keep the photos. 495 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 1: That they shot during the show. I'm not surprised because 496 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:20,880 Speaker 1: I know when you do shows like that, like they 497 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:22,880 Speaker 1: want everything and they want to own everything. 498 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:25,639 Speaker 2: It sucks because then how they're gonna present themselves to 499 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 2: other issues of the seas. 500 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know how much you are able 501 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:32,440 Speaker 1: to like use almost like not licensed, because I'm sure 502 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:34,200 Speaker 1: they didn't have to pay for it, but I'm sure 503 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:37,159 Speaker 1: that there were some stipulations in there of like you 504 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:40,840 Speaker 1: can use things in certain ways, so like to present 505 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:43,680 Speaker 1: when you're going to go seas to agencies. Go seats 506 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:46,560 Speaker 1: are like auditions to agencies, but like for them to 507 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:51,159 Speaker 1: take and potentially publish or do anything monetary to make 508 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:51,960 Speaker 1: money off of it. 509 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:53,720 Speaker 3: Heck no, well no, I was. 510 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:57,000 Speaker 2: I would think they're just using it to show their headshot, 511 00:22:57,119 --> 00:22:58,240 Speaker 2: like just certainly. 512 00:22:57,840 --> 00:22:59,200 Speaker 3: I didn't know they weren't allowed to do that. 513 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:02,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm surprised, and that's I think when it comes 514 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 2: to that documentary. I was more surprised with certain things 515 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:05,720 Speaker 2: then versus like. 516 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 3: Shop like like like outraged. 517 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, because the gap thing took me. I didn't cause 518 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 2: I didn't watch the other seasons after I knew about 519 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:16,960 Speaker 2: the gap thing, I didn't know, and I was always 520 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 2: confused because I felt like Danny was so pretty with 521 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:20,480 Speaker 2: her gap. 522 00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:21,440 Speaker 3: I felt like the gap. 523 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:23,600 Speaker 1: I mean, she's pretty without it or with it a 524 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:26,160 Speaker 1: little bit more closed. But I felt like her gap 525 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:28,800 Speaker 1: it gave her personality to her face, and I thought 526 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:29,120 Speaker 1: that that. 527 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 3: I always thought that mattered we're driving for afterwards. That's supid. 528 00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:37,200 Speaker 2: But also the ultimatums that Tyra gave on the show 529 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:39,800 Speaker 2: is not okay though, because she was like basically saying, 530 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:42,520 Speaker 2: if you don't get it closed and you're leaving, that's it. 531 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:47,000 Speaker 1: But like the industry, the industry is that it's like crazy, 532 00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:51,760 Speaker 1: you hear you ready or you're not? So Tiffany uh, 533 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:56,920 Speaker 1: And Tiffany is the model who got into it with Tyra, 534 00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:58,280 Speaker 1: where Tyra was the whole. 535 00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:00,399 Speaker 3: I'm rooting, we were all rooting for you. I was 536 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 3: rooting for you, we were loading for you. 537 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 1: So she posted and listen when Tyra let her go 538 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:09,320 Speaker 1: from that season, I knew, I'm like, I wasn't mad 539 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:11,600 Speaker 1: at Tyra for that I'm like, she not ready, Like 540 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:13,800 Speaker 1: she's not in a position where she's really ready to 541 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 1: do this, Like all you gotta do is read something 542 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 1: on a teleprompter. 543 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:20,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, but what I want why I step upsode over again? 544 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:23,040 Speaker 2: Because what was something else was going on with. 545 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:25,520 Speaker 1: Maybe there was something that was going on at the time. 546 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:27,760 Speaker 1: I don't remember the actual full episode. I just saw 547 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:30,040 Speaker 1: it in the flashback on the documentary, but. 548 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 3: I don't know. 549 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:35,119 Speaker 1: I felt like she wasn't in a space to like again, 550 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 1: It's like it's now or never, like what you're gonna do? So, 551 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:41,800 Speaker 1: Tiffany posted in response to the documentary, she said, hold up, 552 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:44,560 Speaker 1: Tyra Banks, let's keep it cute. You are one lion, 553 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:48,760 Speaker 1: as tired as b You know how you treated me 554 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:51,919 Speaker 1: the whole time off and on camera. You were a bully. 555 00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:54,760 Speaker 1: You treated me like she's a lot of cousins there. 556 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:57,720 Speaker 1: You treated me like shi t and said the nastiest 557 00:24:57,760 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 1: things about me and my son. That is not how 558 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:02,720 Speaker 1: argument went, but y'all edited it like to make it 559 00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 1: look like you cared. 560 00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:06,640 Speaker 3: Also, f the Shade Room, I don't know what they did. 561 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 1: If you're weird fans and fu Tyra Banks, I bet 562 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:12,640 Speaker 1: you won't sit down me face to face and talk 563 00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:15,760 Speaker 1: about it. Also, if my family too, Oh she's mad 564 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:17,960 Speaker 1: at her family too. Y'all don't ever defend me. I 565 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:20,800 Speaker 1: got more money and helping more people than all are 566 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:24,520 Speaker 1: many of the Top models. But that's the update y'all give. 567 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:27,439 Speaker 1: That's a dang Shane, it's giving y'all still hating on 568 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:31,080 Speaker 1: little black ass me. Then she tagged Tyra Banks again. 569 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 1: She called tyber Banks to hope. She said, just let 570 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:34,800 Speaker 1: it go. It's been over twenty years. 571 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:36,920 Speaker 3: So she's basically saying, if all the things that y'all. 572 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:38,359 Speaker 1: Could be talking about that I got going on right now, 573 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:40,679 Speaker 1: why is that what y'all give the update on? But 574 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 1: I mean, to be fair, if she was in the dock, 575 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:48,119 Speaker 1: the other girls got to talk about so but you 576 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:50,919 Speaker 1: gotta talk about your storyline, and that was her storyline, 577 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:53,119 Speaker 1: like you and the girl who left, They try to 578 00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:55,239 Speaker 1: get you help from what they've seen, from what they 579 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 1: said allegedly, like they talked about anger management all that, 580 00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:00,199 Speaker 1: and then she came back on the show and it 581 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:02,359 Speaker 1: didn't work out. Still, and in that moment, that moment 582 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:04,160 Speaker 1: is one of the biggest moments from Top Model. 583 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 3: She crazy y'all had a nonprofit. We were all rooting 584 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:09,080 Speaker 3: for you. 585 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:12,719 Speaker 2: That was probably humiliating for her though, Like so she's 586 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:14,760 Speaker 2: trying to not thinking positive to make it. 587 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:18,119 Speaker 3: But my thing is, how is it humiliating for you? 588 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:19,919 Speaker 3: They gave you another chance? 589 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 2: Now I'm talking about that moment that like, I'm sure 590 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:25,000 Speaker 2: people will get help in her face, like we were reading. 591 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:27,480 Speaker 1: For you, and then I feel like, girl, Tyra got 592 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:30,119 Speaker 1: so hood. You don't know my life, you don't know 593 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:32,280 Speaker 1: what I've been through. I'm like, girl will tell us. 594 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 3: Yes, I'm actually surprised. 595 00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:39,679 Speaker 2: I feel like, low key they edited some stuff out 596 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:42,840 Speaker 2: of because I'm surprised she didn't say nothing back they had. 597 00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:45,480 Speaker 3: Of course, they actually had to bring an attorneys to 598 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:46,240 Speaker 3: set the next day. 599 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:46,800 Speaker 2: Yo. 600 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:49,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, you only bringing attorneys where there are some things 601 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:50,800 Speaker 1: that said, were you you try and protect your talent? 602 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:54,000 Speaker 3: So definitely things were edited one hundred percent. 603 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:58,639 Speaker 2: I'm surprised, honestly that Jance Dickinson didn't get more backlash 604 00:26:58,800 --> 00:26:59,520 Speaker 2: like she's doing. 605 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:01,399 Speaker 3: She was just diary. 606 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:05,639 Speaker 1: She was miserable, yes, and I think a lot of 607 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:07,680 Speaker 1: what she did was how she felt. But I think 608 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:09,560 Speaker 1: there were parts of it that was just for the plot, 609 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:11,440 Speaker 1: like she loved to take Tyra Banks off. 610 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:15,479 Speaker 3: That shit was crazy to me how she acted, but 611 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:15,800 Speaker 3: it was. 612 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:19,160 Speaker 1: But I think the documentary did a good I think 613 00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:22,439 Speaker 1: the documentary was very fair in showing their dynamics, So 614 00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:25,640 Speaker 1: the dynamic between Tyra and Janets, the dynamic between Miss 615 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:28,760 Speaker 1: j and j Manuel and Nigel and Tyra Banks, and 616 00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:32,040 Speaker 1: their dynamic without Tyra Banks as well too, and and 617 00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:34,520 Speaker 1: And the reason why I say that is because I 618 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:38,639 Speaker 1: feel like every time I've ever watched anything or watched 619 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:41,320 Speaker 1: the interview where like read anything that has to do 620 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 1: with Nigel who was the photographer, Miss Jay who was 621 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:47,360 Speaker 1: the runway coach you also judge, and then Jay Alexander 622 00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:49,440 Speaker 1: who would do like kind of like their creative direction 623 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:52,600 Speaker 1: and helped you know, the models on set. 624 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:55,160 Speaker 3: It always talked about. 625 00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:56,320 Speaker 1: Them in a way where they were just kind of 626 00:27:56,359 --> 00:28:01,800 Speaker 1: like Cyrus, like Cyrus Tyra's like sidekicks in a way. 627 00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:05,080 Speaker 1: I think this documentary did a really good job of 628 00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:08,840 Speaker 1: showing their own aspirations, why they came into it, and 629 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:12,399 Speaker 1: that these people had lives and work before Typer Binks, 630 00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:16,639 Speaker 1: like j Manuel was very successful at the point that he, 631 00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:18,560 Speaker 1: you know, was that's how we even knew Typer pinks, 632 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:21,200 Speaker 1: So was Miss j so was Nigel you. 633 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:24,959 Speaker 3: Know how uh j Emanuel? 634 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:30,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, his face card is ridiculous, yo, still and I 635 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:32,520 Speaker 1: don't know where it's like. I feel like he got 636 00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:35,480 Speaker 1: like a like a like it's like a VIP limited 637 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:38,160 Speaker 1: version of botox that don't nobody else get. But because 638 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:41,320 Speaker 1: he don't even look, he don't don't look. You know, 639 00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:45,360 Speaker 1: he did something to keep it that. Yeah, it's so 640 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:49,600 Speaker 1: sharp and like, but they don't look over overdone. 641 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:51,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, That's what I'm saying. 642 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:54,640 Speaker 1: Like he just looks so soft and so like glowy 643 00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:57,720 Speaker 1: injury the chance, like, let me know. So I do 644 00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:00,200 Speaker 1: want to get into everything we found out about it's 645 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:04,239 Speaker 1: Jay and the stroke that he suffered that has now 646 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:06,400 Speaker 1: left him paralyzed. But let's take a break and then 647 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:10,920 Speaker 1: we'll come back and get into it. So one of 648 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:19,080 Speaker 1: the final moments of the docuseries is a moment where 649 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:23,640 Speaker 1: we find out some breaking news exclusively. So miss Jay, 650 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:28,720 Speaker 1: who is runway coach extraordinary Tyra Banks. Literally he's helped 651 00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:31,440 Speaker 1: Tyra Banks learn how to walk on the runway when 652 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:34,520 Speaker 1: she was in her prime. We found out that he 653 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:38,480 Speaker 1: no longer can walk after suffering a major stroke. This 654 00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:41,160 Speaker 1: was so sad they opened it because the whole time 655 00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:44,800 Speaker 1: throughout the docuseries, Miss Jay is sitting down, So you 656 00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:48,360 Speaker 1: don't know, and I could tell. I mean, some of 657 00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:50,560 Speaker 1: the news had broke prior to me watching it, But 658 00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:54,080 Speaker 1: just in how he was talking, it wasn't the same 659 00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:56,640 Speaker 1: how he would talk on the show. It wasn't as sharp, 660 00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 1: you know, some sentences and some words were more drawn out, 661 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:02,440 Speaker 1: which happens with stroke, Like you know, it can affect 662 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:05,680 Speaker 1: your speech and things as well. But when he opened 663 00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:10,160 Speaker 1: up the scene where he's showing us the room that 664 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:13,200 Speaker 1: he's been that he was staying in for some time, 665 00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:15,320 Speaker 1: and it's like a hospital bed in the room, and 666 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:18,640 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my god, because Miss j was always 667 00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:22,800 Speaker 1: so full of life. Yeah, in a coma and waking 668 00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:25,040 Speaker 1: up and not even knowing where he was or like 669 00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:27,880 Speaker 1: what happened. Miss j was so full of life. It 670 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:30,000 Speaker 1: still is, you know, still is full of life. But 671 00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:35,520 Speaker 1: I just can't imagine Miss Jay, you know, the vulgar, 672 00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:39,520 Speaker 1: the runway, like everything in the scene, and like just. 673 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:43,560 Speaker 3: I for anyone. 674 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:46,080 Speaker 1: Who I mean, you you didn't model, but you understand 675 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:46,480 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. 676 00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:49,800 Speaker 3: But for us as models. Miss j was like, that's mother. 677 00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:54,880 Speaker 1: She is on the listen up and down the runway, baby, 678 00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:56,680 Speaker 1: giving it to you how it need to be served 679 00:30:56,720 --> 00:31:01,960 Speaker 1: up and the line where Miss Jay says I used 680 00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:03,880 Speaker 1: to teach the models how to walk and on I 681 00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:06,760 Speaker 1: can't even walk. I'm like, man, life hits you so hard. 682 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:11,040 Speaker 1: Good people too, Good people get hit with the craziest things. 683 00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:13,080 Speaker 2: And the entireginy in one of his. 684 00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:18,240 Speaker 1: That made me sig eye her. That made her because 685 00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:20,160 Speaker 1: I feel like when you man, when your people down 686 00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:22,320 Speaker 1: for you, they down for you, right. Like they rolled 687 00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:24,640 Speaker 1: with her through so much that show was new. Imagine 688 00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:26,720 Speaker 1: how much she had to figure out on the fly, 689 00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:28,160 Speaker 1: and they figured it out together. 690 00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:32,040 Speaker 3: And he's now in a position where like. 691 00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:35,920 Speaker 1: He's physically disabled and going through so much and you 692 00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 1: haven't even like, not even a FaceTime, he says. 693 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:39,440 Speaker 3: She text them. 694 00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:43,840 Speaker 2: Yeah. I'm like, man, he's crazy situation where her and 695 00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:47,160 Speaker 2: Jane Manuel like, cause you did you see on his 696 00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:49,440 Speaker 2: instagram he it seems like he was doing shade to 697 00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:49,920 Speaker 2: her too. 698 00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:52,720 Speaker 1: Oh he's been this shade between Like I knew that 699 00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:55,680 Speaker 1: there were things between them, I just don't know if 700 00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:59,440 Speaker 1: I knew how bad, like like what it was, you 701 00:31:59,440 --> 00:31:59,960 Speaker 1: know what I mean? 702 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,400 Speaker 3: Like, but I knew we only heard in the documentary. 703 00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:06,080 Speaker 2: You only hear one side of the story. And there's 704 00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:09,000 Speaker 2: no shame to j Manuel. 705 00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:11,520 Speaker 3: Sorry friend, but. 706 00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:14,120 Speaker 2: Because she was saying that he wanted to, you know, 707 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:17,800 Speaker 2: pivot his career, and when he told Tyra that, she 708 00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:19,760 Speaker 2: just goes back and says, I'm disappointed. 709 00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:24,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, but okay, So here's sorry that came up again. 710 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:26,720 Speaker 1: But here's here's my thing about the whole, like Tyra 711 00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:29,800 Speaker 1: and how she handled him once he told her that 712 00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:31,320 Speaker 1: he didn't want to work there anymore or work with 713 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:36,400 Speaker 1: her anymore. Right, I understand as a person and as 714 00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:40,200 Speaker 1: the person I am, I would never in something that 715 00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:42,960 Speaker 1: way unless there was like a really like to me, 716 00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:44,760 Speaker 1: there was no real reason for her to do that. 717 00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:48,480 Speaker 3: They there weren't arguments, They didn't dislike each other. 718 00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:50,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought it was weird that he emailed her. 719 00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:51,920 Speaker 2: Why aren't you just tell. 720 00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:54,280 Speaker 1: I think it had gotten to a point where they 721 00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:57,360 Speaker 1: were growing apart. Things were happening. He was becoming his 722 00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:00,080 Speaker 1: own star, his own name, his own celebrity, you know 723 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:06,480 Speaker 1: what I mean? But still, you know, I don't I 724 00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:10,160 Speaker 1: just if it were me, I just wouldn't want things 725 00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:12,360 Speaker 1: to end that way and would have done everything I 726 00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:14,640 Speaker 1: could to not make it in that way. But it 727 00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:16,280 Speaker 1: seemed like it got to a point where for the 728 00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:19,680 Speaker 1: both of them where business is business, and he did 729 00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:21,560 Speaker 1: what he needed to do to keep himself on this 730 00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:22,960 Speaker 1: show for as long as he needed to until he 731 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:25,240 Speaker 1: decided to step off and pivot, and she did what 732 00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:27,360 Speaker 1: she needed to do to protect herself because at that point, 733 00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:28,560 Speaker 1: when you were telling me you want to leave the 734 00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:31,800 Speaker 1: show that I created, We're not friends anymore. Now I'm 735 00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:34,400 Speaker 1: your boss and HR has to deal with you. 736 00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:38,080 Speaker 3: Leaving the show. It was very clear she didn't produce it. 737 00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:38,760 Speaker 3: It was so clear. 738 00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:40,680 Speaker 1: I feel like if she had produced it, there would 739 00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:42,160 Speaker 1: have been a lot more not added in. 740 00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:44,160 Speaker 3: It was so clear to me that she didn't. 741 00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:46,520 Speaker 1: That's why I was so surprised that she was so involved, 742 00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:49,640 Speaker 1: because you could tell she didn't have creative control because 743 00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:52,360 Speaker 1: some of the stuff, I'm like, girl, you look crazy 744 00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:55,000 Speaker 1: as hell right now talking about season cycle twenty five. 745 00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:57,840 Speaker 1: So there's things even when in the opening episode when 746 00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:00,240 Speaker 1: I'm talking about Tyra pitching this show, when it you know, 747 00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:03,000 Speaker 1: people were not running to do reality. 748 00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:06,160 Speaker 3: I wonder how Tire's gonna do Cycle twenty five. 749 00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:08,520 Speaker 1: I don't think Cycle twenty five is gonna be successful. 750 00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:11,160 Speaker 1: I think the girls nowadays are gonna be too soft. 751 00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:14,080 Speaker 1: They're gonna need in this. Again, I'm totally here for 752 00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:16,080 Speaker 1: people being in tune with themselves, but you're gonna need 753 00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:16,800 Speaker 1: therapists onside. 754 00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:18,960 Speaker 3: You're gonna need mental health days and mental health. 755 00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:24,040 Speaker 1: Breaks, especially agg you can't say certain words, and like, 756 00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:24,920 Speaker 1: I just don't think. 757 00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:25,440 Speaker 3: It will work. 758 00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:28,480 Speaker 1: Not it can work, and we'll watch it, but I 759 00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:30,880 Speaker 1: don't know if it'll be as great because we tuned 760 00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:33,120 Speaker 1: in for a certain level of like, oh shoot, they 761 00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:36,120 Speaker 1: really doing it. It's gonna be like the Impact or 762 00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:38,719 Speaker 1: what's in the white world. That's like where like they 763 00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:40,440 Speaker 1: just grab a bunch of social media starts to put 764 00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:43,920 Speaker 1: them all together in the house. Uh yeah, so like 765 00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:47,200 Speaker 1: the high House for the white people that listen, for 766 00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:49,440 Speaker 1: the black people that listen. If you've ever watched Impact 767 00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:51,880 Speaker 1: Atlanta or Impact New York where they grab all of 768 00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:54,359 Speaker 1: the social the biggest people on social media and put 769 00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:56,000 Speaker 1: them in the house, I think they'll do that. Like 770 00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:58,280 Speaker 1: that'll be because she was already kind of leaning into 771 00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:02,040 Speaker 1: like that in the later seasons. I think this time 772 00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:05,480 Speaker 1: around it'll be she grabs the biggest girls, Yeah, the 773 00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:09,319 Speaker 1: biggest girls from Instagram, and then you're gonna have a 774 00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:11,719 Speaker 1: few girls sprinkled in who have like two thousand followers, 775 00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:14,480 Speaker 1: who maybe have a look, but like need a big 776 00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:17,320 Speaker 1: transformation because you love a storyline, you love a beginning, 777 00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:17,879 Speaker 1: middle end. 778 00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:19,160 Speaker 3: You need to see the transformation. 779 00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:21,080 Speaker 1: And you're gonna throw them in the house together and 780 00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:23,640 Speaker 1: just see how it works and just and whatever the 781 00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:28,640 Speaker 1: challenges are today, like followers and still race in size, 782 00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:33,400 Speaker 1: whatever the challenges are today, they'll just like spin it. 783 00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:35,960 Speaker 3: But I just think I think the world. 784 00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:38,960 Speaker 1: Itself is a little too woke for what was the 785 00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:42,320 Speaker 1: best part of Top Model, because people pissed about it 786 00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:44,040 Speaker 1: right now, Like I probably they probably gonna be out 787 00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:45,479 Speaker 1: of me for saying that those were the best parts 788 00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:46,000 Speaker 1: of Top Model. 789 00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:46,400 Speaker 3: It was. 790 00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:51,279 Speaker 1: That's why the drama and the craziness everything we just 791 00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:54,040 Speaker 1: talked about. I just don't I wouldn't want the headache 792 00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:54,560 Speaker 1: if I was her. 793 00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:55,920 Speaker 2: And yeah, I think we got too, we got we 794 00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:56,719 Speaker 2: got filters. 795 00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:59,239 Speaker 3: Now it's nothing, it's the same. I would not want. 796 00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:01,359 Speaker 1: That might be a a thing to watch, they'll do 797 00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:04,000 Speaker 1: like a challenge with a filter, or it'll be like 798 00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:06,920 Speaker 1: girls showing up whose don't look like they're filters, or 799 00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:08,239 Speaker 1: it'll be girls showing up that. 800 00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:14,120 Speaker 2: We get. 801 00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:17,640 Speaker 1: We should crows out now, it's a different time. It's 802 00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:20,879 Speaker 1: twenty twenty six. We aren't closer. It's kind of close out. 803 00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:24,000 Speaker 1: This has been another episode of the Latest with Lauren 804 00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:27,239 Speaker 1: La Rosa. I tell you, guys, every single episode, y'all 805 00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:30,319 Speaker 1: could be anywhere with anybody talking to talking about all 806 00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:32,160 Speaker 1: these things, but talk you to be right here with me, 807 00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:32,879 Speaker 1: my low riding. 808 00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:35,680 Speaker 3: Make sure y'all go watch the doc, but make sure 809 00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:38,719 Speaker 3: you also go listen and watch our interview with Takara. 810 00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:39,280 Speaker 3: We're talking. 811 00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:39,920 Speaker 2: Go for the doc. 812 00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:43,480 Speaker 3: Even drops, Okay,