1 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:21,079 Speaker 1: Mother Knows Death starring Nicole and Jemmy and Maria qk Hi. 2 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 2: Everyone welcome The Mother Knows Death. On today's episode, we're 3 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:26,120 Speaker 2: going to talk about a reality TV star who almost 4 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 2: died from vaping, a mistress who almost died trying to 5 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 2: hide from the man's wife she was having an affair with, 6 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:36,160 Speaker 2: and a man who almost fell to his death while 7 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 2: taking a selfie. Those last two stories were all caught 8 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:42,640 Speaker 2: on video, by the way. Then we'll talk about a 9 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:45,960 Speaker 2: kid who swallowed an earbud and a family member who 10 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:48,479 Speaker 2: tried to make a sick joke of it. And we'll 11 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:50,879 Speaker 2: finish off with the first ever reported case of a 12 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 2: very unusual ech topic pregnancy. All that and more on 13 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 2: today's episode, Vaping Terrible for You. I've been saying this 14 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 2: since it started. 15 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 1: Thirty three year old Below Deck star Fraser Olander shared 16 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 1: that he was hospitalized after having lung issues and a 17 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 1: heart attack, which all stemmed from vaping. 18 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:13,760 Speaker 2: So I couldn't find this anywhere. Did you find it 19 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 2: anywhere if he was if he said he was vaping cigarettes, 20 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:21,679 Speaker 2: or if he was vaping weed. I'm just curious. I 21 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 2: don't think it's specified, which all right, So let's try 22 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 2: to figure out what happened with him. So he was 23 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 2: diagnosed with something called a valley or e cigarette vape 24 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 2: associated lung injury. So that's just like kind of a 25 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 2: broad category of different kinds of injuries you could get 26 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 2: from vape pens. But one of them is called popcorn lung. 27 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:46,120 Speaker 2: Have you ever heard of that. I've heard of it, 28 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 2: but I really don't know what it is at all. 29 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 2: So basically, these factory workers who were making popcorn were 30 00:01:55,040 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 2: getting this lung injury called bronchiolitis oblitterans, which they have 31 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 2: now nicknamed popcorn lung because they saw that they were 32 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 2: getting it from the chemical that they put on top 33 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:13,800 Speaker 2: of popcorn to make it taste like butter, called diacetyl, 34 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 2: And we're all eating that and it's supposed to be fine. 35 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 2: It's actually crazy because sometimes when we go to the 36 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:27,240 Speaker 2: movie theater, they have like a station that you could 37 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:31,639 Speaker 2: put your own butter on it, like after you get it, 38 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:34,680 Speaker 2: and I always, you know, load it up like I 39 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 2: wanted to be soaking wet, and the whole time I'm 40 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 2: just like, this isn't butter. This is like I don't 41 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 2: even know what this is. It's like castor oil right now, 42 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 2: I don't even know, but like it tastes so good. 43 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:47,359 Speaker 1: Ricky literally puts a straw on the spout to get 44 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:48,840 Speaker 1: it in the bottom and then. 45 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:50,959 Speaker 2: Oh yeah he did on the top. He did tell 46 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 2: me that once. That was like his trick. So so yeah, 47 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 2: So these workers were inhaling this chemical and it was 48 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 2: them to have damage to the really small airways the 49 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 2: bronchials of the lungs. And it's a similar finding in 50 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 2: people who vape. They think that it might be from 51 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 2: vitamin e acetate, which is an oil that's sometimes used, 52 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 2: especially in ones that are ball off the street, but 53 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 2: you could also get it in other ones too, I suppose. 54 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:29,240 Speaker 2: So he got diagnosed with that, but then secondary to that, 55 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 2: so this wasn't caused by the vape, but is like 56 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 2: another thing that happened to him was that he had 57 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 2: a condition where he was having spasms of his coronary 58 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 2: arteries and they were clamping down and that caused him 59 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 2: to have a heart attack. So he's thirty five years old. 60 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 2: This is really unusual. But this is the same kind 61 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 2: of thing that we could see in Takasubo arteratus, which 62 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 2: we've talked about on the show before, which is when 63 00:03:56,880 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 2: you have like the broken heart disease, So he doesn't 64 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 2: have any physical coronary artery disease with something caused his 65 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 2: blood vessels to kind of clamp down and shut off 66 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:10,119 Speaker 2: blood supply to his heart, which I guess like nicotine 67 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 2: could do that, So it could have been because of that, 68 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 2: and that along with the lung injury could just be 69 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:20,479 Speaker 2: like a double whammy that was causing a lack of 70 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:23,360 Speaker 2: oxygen to get to his heart. But regardless, he had 71 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 2: a heart attack, and he said he had like the 72 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:28,600 Speaker 2: worst crushing chest pain ever and that's how he knew. 73 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:31,240 Speaker 2: You know, it's funny. I always do wonder that, Like, 74 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:34,839 Speaker 2: you know, if you're just walking around sometimes or whatever, 75 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 2: you get like a pain in your chest, You're like, 76 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:39,479 Speaker 2: oh my god, I wonder if I'm having a heart attack, right, 77 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 2: And you're just like but most people will say, you'll oh, 78 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:48,159 Speaker 2: you'll know, like it's unlike anything that you've ever felt. 79 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 2: You'll know something, because aren't you Sometimes you're just like, ah, 80 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:53,839 Speaker 2: what if I blow it off and then it's not 81 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 2: really a heart attack, And you're just like, no, it's 82 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 2: pretty obvious that something really terrible is wrong. 83 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:02,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I would say for women, I think 84 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 1: it might be a little harder to detect because I'm 85 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 1: sure you've gotten like shooting pains in your boobs before 86 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 1: and it's like right there. And then when I went 87 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 1: off birth control a couple of years ago, I was 88 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 1: having a chest pain on my left side, and then 89 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:22,040 Speaker 1: doctor Joe ended up saying it was like some muscles postrochondrite, 90 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:23,159 Speaker 1: that that's. 91 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 2: What it was exactly. 92 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:25,600 Speaker 1: I could never remember what it was called, but it's 93 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 1: like the muscle in this is my understanding. To correct 94 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:30,719 Speaker 1: me if I'm wrong, but it's like the muscle between 95 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:33,919 Speaker 1: your boob and like your rib cage right or something. 96 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, you could get it from it from where the 97 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:39,920 Speaker 2: where the bone meets the cartilage, or you could get 98 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 2: pains from the muscle as well. But yeah, it it 99 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 2: and it it hurts. It hurts pretty bad, but it's 100 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 2: in a very specific location. That's an I think that 101 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:52,479 Speaker 2: a lot of people, I mean, you could have like 102 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:55,280 Speaker 2: a smaller heart attack and maybe like ignore it and 103 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 2: not go to the hospital for it. But when you're 104 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:01,360 Speaker 2: having like the heart attack, I think that a lot 105 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 2: of people describe it as being like really really obvious 106 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 2: that it was happening. 107 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think he's I think it's cool, unlike 108 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:12,599 Speaker 1: the Kardashian gender camp where they're trying to promote things 109 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 1: to get money. I think he's genuinely like, this could 110 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:18,599 Speaker 1: have been really bad. And I do think there's a 111 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:23,920 Speaker 1: genuine general misconception that vaping is so much healthier than 112 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 1: smoking cigarettes or physical marijuana out of like a bowler 113 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 1: joint or whatever, and it actually I feel like we're 114 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 1: learning it's so much worse. 115 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 2: Well, it can be worse, and listen, like, the tobacco 116 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 2: industry is just like up there with every the drug 117 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:44,160 Speaker 2: industry and everything like that. So when they're the ones 118 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 2: that are putting out vapes and stuff, and like, how 119 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 2: could you ever trust them what they've done with cigarettes? Right, 120 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 2: It's just like if it was an actual reputable company 121 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 2: that showed interest in caring about people, they just show 122 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 2: in making millions of dollars. So he did say one 123 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 2: interesting thing too, though, is that he's been off of 124 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 2: the eight pens for three weeks and he said his 125 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 2: skin looks better than it's looked in a really long time, 126 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 2: which is really interesting too. 127 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 1: It is, and I thought it was funny too. 128 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 2: The picture he posted of. 129 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 1: The incident was kind of like a third strap showing 130 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 1: off his nice body with like medical equipment on it. 131 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 2: I was like, okay, okay. 132 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 1: All right, So these next two ones are like so stupid. 133 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 1: First in China, this cheating Cusban freaked out when he 134 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 1: heard his wife coming home early, so he made his 135 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:39,680 Speaker 1: mistress climb out the window of his tenth floor apartment, 136 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 1: and somebody across the street or an alley got the 137 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 1: entire thing on video, and I can't believe she did 138 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 1: not fall. You guys just wouldn't be. 139 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 2: It's such a selfish asshole, like he's cheating on his wife, 140 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 2: and then on top of that, he doesn't want to 141 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 2: get caught and he's making a woman go outside, and 142 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 2: what an idiot for actually doing it. 143 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, she's an idiot too, for first of all home 144 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 1: wrecker and then also you're an idiot. 145 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 2: She maybe she didn't know he was married. 146 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 1: This is the thing Like, but then I'd be like, 147 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 1: I'm not climbing out of the window. 148 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 2: It all happened so fast. He was just like, listen, 149 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 2: I just need you to go out the window for 150 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 2: a minute. Dude. This video is insane. 151 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 1: She is like scaling this building like Spider Man. 152 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 3: It's crazy and I couldn't even believe it because it 153 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 3: looks like in her one hand she's holding her cellphone, 154 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 3: and she also looks like she's have shoes on, so 155 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 3: she's crawling along the edge of the window. 156 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:39,200 Speaker 2: She somehow makes it to a pipe, slides. 157 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 1: Down the pipe to the floor below, crawls over to 158 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 1: another window, knocks on that window, and gets that neighbor 159 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 1: to pull her inside. 160 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:47,439 Speaker 2: Like, what is happening right now? 161 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 1: I cannot believe she didn't fall. 162 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 2: It's funny, because not funny. It Yeah, yesterday in the 163 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 2: grocery room, I was writing about freak accidents that happen 164 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 2: around the hall time, and a similar situation happened with 165 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 2: a Santa that decided to just like scale a building 166 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 2: that was twenty four stories, but his didn't end so well. 167 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:13,560 Speaker 1: I just don't understand what people are thinking. It's honestly 168 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:15,960 Speaker 1: miraculous that she did not fall to her death. 169 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:19,679 Speaker 2: She should have like beat the shit out of him 170 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 2: after she got out. I would just be like, would 171 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 2: she just like wrap back around, go up the elevator 172 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 2: and knock on the door and be like Hi. 173 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:31,560 Speaker 1: Well, I think they obviously ended up getting caught anyway, 174 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 1: because this video went viral and it's like obvious who 175 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:38,080 Speaker 1: it is in the video, so you know, did he 176 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 1: even look outside to check on her? 177 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 2: No? He sucks. This is unacceptable. 178 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:48,319 Speaker 1: And then another incident that also happened in China. This 179 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:50,840 Speaker 1: man was trying to take a selfie on a cliff 180 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 1: and then ended up falling, but he also somehow survived. 181 00:09:56,360 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 2: I can't and how big of a drop was it? So? 182 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:03,200 Speaker 1: Isn't that cliff was one hundred and thirty feet high 183 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 1: but he plunged around fifty feet below, so I think 184 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:09,680 Speaker 1: he fell and then slid down some rock. 185 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:11,959 Speaker 2: Like is he okay? 186 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 1: He posted just on Instagram that he thought he was 187 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 1: gonna die but he survived. There's no report of it. 188 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 2: He is like upsetting to watch videos like that. There 189 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 2: was another one going around recently. This is the problem 190 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 2: with the internet now, Like I just never know what 191 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 2: video is real and what video is fake anymore, I 192 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:34,560 Speaker 2: which is bumming me out because I'm like, did this 193 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 2: really happen or is this because there was one going 194 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 2: around the past couple weeks of someone climbing I don't 195 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 2: know if it was Mount Everest, but it was a 196 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:45,360 Speaker 2: situation like that with like a high mountain and a 197 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 2: person was like like slid like off of the edge. 198 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 2: But then I'm like, is this AI? Like I don't. 199 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 2: I'm not that great at picking it up, you know, 200 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:57,240 Speaker 2: so I just don't unless it comes from like ABC 201 00:10:57,320 --> 00:10:59,000 Speaker 2: News or something, I don't want to use it. 202 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:02,080 Speaker 1: I feel like I could see this being AI because 203 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 1: I was looking at it and it doesn't seem like 204 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 1: the rock all these people were on and climbing was 205 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:14,320 Speaker 1: a legitimate hiking area. Did you know that doesn't mean 206 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 1: anything people, I mean, well, so they're saying that's the thing. 207 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 1: I guess people could really just like I mean you like, 208 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 1: we could just do that later, like let's make a 209 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 1: video of us with me falling off a rock and saying, 210 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 1: oh my god, thank god I survived. Like look at 211 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 1: this video, like how I don't know, Well, this is 212 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:35,559 Speaker 1: what there's like programs you could run it through. 213 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 2: Probably to figure it out or something. I don't know. 214 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 1: This is what the area said. So he was climbing 215 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 1: Huajing Mountain in China, and then that tourist area is 216 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 1: saying that they were on this area known as Blade Rock, 217 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:51,960 Speaker 1: which is not within the boundaries of the hiking area, 218 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:54,400 Speaker 1: and they emphasized that area is only allowed to be 219 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 1: viewed from a different a distance and climbing is not permitted. 220 00:11:57,720 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 1: So I'm looking at it like, I don't think this 221 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 1: is real because it doesn't look like an actual area 222 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 1: people could physically walk up, but they're saying that it 223 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:11,840 Speaker 1: is there, and people go there anyway, and they're not 224 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:14,560 Speaker 1: supposed to be going there basically, which is probably why 225 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 1: this happened. 226 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, and we've had a couple stories of people dying 227 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 2: taking selfeast, Like could you imagine like dying because of that? 228 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:27,679 Speaker 2: Really No, I can't. And it's just I guess I 229 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 2: just don't understand because as we've established, I hate outside, right, So, 230 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 2: like when I was driving in upstate New York. You know, 231 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:36,080 Speaker 2: there's it. 232 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 1: Snowed a lot up there, so there's snow and there's ice, 233 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:41,439 Speaker 1: like literally all the bodies of water are completely frozen 234 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:43,719 Speaker 1: over already, So and what is. 235 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 2: Appealing about that for a vacation destination. 236 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 1: I had a great time, but it was nice. But anyway, 237 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:52,680 Speaker 1: as we're along some of the back roads in the mountains, 238 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:55,080 Speaker 1: there are just cars pulled over with people not in 239 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 1: them right, and I'm like, where could these people possibly be? 240 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 1: There's nowhere to go, and he's like, oh, they do 241 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:04,080 Speaker 1: like ice climbing and stuff. And I just can't fathom 242 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:08,319 Speaker 1: a hiking at all and be going out in those 243 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 1: conditions and not being afraid. 244 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:12,680 Speaker 2: I saw a lot of that on the road trip, 245 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 2: like people just like climbing up mountains randomly, like no 246 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:17,800 Speaker 2: harnesses and shit. 247 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 1: Free, free climbing free solo. Remember that documentary, Yeah, that 248 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:25,840 Speaker 1: was that guy's real, real neat. I don't know, but 249 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 1: I mean it's it's it's it's really crazy that he's 250 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:31,440 Speaker 1: able to do that. But I feel like I haven't 251 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 1: watched in a while, but I feel like being like 252 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 1: like the guy was like off or something, and. 253 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 2: I don't know, Oh my god, I don't know. I 254 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:42,560 Speaker 2: just can't fathom doing this. 255 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:45,320 Speaker 1: And I mean, this guy survived, but it's still embarrassing 256 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 1: if true that he felt while trying to take a 257 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 1: picture of himself. This episode is brought to you by 258 00:13:59,160 --> 00:13:59,839 Speaker 1: The Grossroom. 259 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 2: Guys. The Grosser Room is on sale for the last 260 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 2: time this year and it is ending on Friday, so 261 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 2: make sure you get in. 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So check out the Grossroom. 278 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 1: Head over to the grossroom dot com now to get 279 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 1: one year of gross for only twenty dollars. 280 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:14,080 Speaker 2: Okay, So this kid swallowed an earbud, but the story's great. 281 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 2: I love it. So a three year. 282 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:19,080 Speaker 1: Old's followed an AirPod and while everyone's freaking out about 283 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 1: what to do about her is following it, her uncle 284 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 1: decides he was gonna hook up his phone to the 285 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 1: AirPod and try to play a song and try to 286 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 1: hear it by putting his ear up to her belly. 287 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 2: And it worked. It worked, and it pissed everybody off. 288 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 2: Everybody got so pissed. I don't know. I think he 289 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 2: was like, Hey, I'm just trying to lighten the mood here, 290 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:41,440 Speaker 2: you know. I don't know. I don't think that there's 291 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 2: anything wrong with it. I mean, he was just trying 292 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 2: to be funny. You know, you have people in your 293 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 2: life that are like, it's just like, I mean, from 294 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 2: a parent perspective, I would be freaking out right. Yeah, 295 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:57,320 Speaker 2: And I think just to let you guys know, like 296 00:15:57,360 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 2: if your kid ever swallows an ear what are they 297 00:15:59,840 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 2: called AirPod? I call them wrong all the time, and 298 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 2: the kids make fun of me all the time. I 299 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 2: call them like earbuds, and I. 300 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 1: It's the general generic name for them is earbud. 301 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. They make fun of me every 302 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 2: time I open my mouth. So so anyway, I would 303 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 2: if my kids swallowed one of them, I think you 304 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 2: should go to the hospital because number one, especially this 305 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 2: kid was what three or four? Yeah? Three, Like they 306 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:33,680 Speaker 2: have like pretty little intestines, and if that thing turns sideways, 307 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 2: it could be pretty big, so it could get stuck. 308 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 2: It could push through the wall. But they also probably 309 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 2: have batteries, Like do they have batteries in them? They 310 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 2: have to write if they're working cordless. 311 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 1: Like that, Yeah, they have. I don't understand how will 312 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 1: they they charge in the case. So there has to 313 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 1: be some type of battery with an individual AirPod that 314 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 1: then is getting charged in the case somehow. 315 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 2: Yeah. So so like that, and the Lithian I on 316 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:04,199 Speaker 2: batteries and stuff. They're terrible to ingest They could be 317 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:07,640 Speaker 2: errosive to the lining of the bow and could put 318 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 2: a hole through the bow. Like it's it's a situation 319 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:12,440 Speaker 2: that I think needs to go to the emergency room 320 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 2: right away. So I do see why the parents are 321 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:18,720 Speaker 2: like all uptight about it, but still like, come on, 322 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:23,360 Speaker 2: I like it's I think it's like a cool story 323 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:25,920 Speaker 2: to tell the kid too. Like imagine if like Uncle 324 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:28,080 Speaker 2: Louis was like, yeah, I remember that time you swallowed an era, 325 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 2: but and I like was playing music through your stomach, 326 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:34,399 Speaker 2: Like it's a funny story. It didn't hurt anybody, Like 327 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 2: the uncle posted. 328 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 1: The whole story on Reddit, and it seems everybody was 329 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:38,920 Speaker 1: on his side. 330 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 3: That it was. 331 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:42,440 Speaker 2: And it's like it's kind of like a cool science experiment, 332 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 2: like will this work through the human body? And it did. 333 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:48,919 Speaker 2: I wonder what song it was. I know. 334 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:51,640 Speaker 1: I wish they'd leave or say details like that, because 335 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 1: it would just make it even more interesting. Okay, So 336 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:57,400 Speaker 1: Peru has reported the first case of a baby born 337 00:17:57,520 --> 00:18:01,240 Speaker 1: after an ectopic pregnancy in the liver. I thought all 338 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:03,720 Speaker 1: ectopic pregnancies were not considered viable. 339 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:07,800 Speaker 2: No, are you a member of the grocer room because 340 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 2: I wrote about it twice this week? 341 00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:09,639 Speaker 1: Have you? 342 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:10,600 Speaker 2: Oh, you were on vacation. 343 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 1: I'm also pregnant, and I don't really want to read 344 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 1: any related story. 345 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:17,200 Speaker 2: You don't have an ectopic pregnancy. We know it's in 346 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:20,840 Speaker 2: your unit. Gives me, Oh my god, stop being a 347 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:25,920 Speaker 2: Stop being such a drama queen. So we had two 348 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:29,760 Speaker 2: cases in the grocerroom this week of ectopic pregnancy because 349 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:34,040 Speaker 2: the first one was the report of a mom who 350 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:36,959 Speaker 2: so she had no prenatal care and had no idea 351 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:41,040 Speaker 2: that she had an ectopic pregnancy, and she presented late term. 352 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:45,760 Speaker 2: I believe she was thirty six ish weeks and when 353 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:49,280 Speaker 2: they opened her stomach to take out well, they did 354 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 2: the incision to take out the baby, the uterus wasn't there, 355 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:58,479 Speaker 2: and they came across this big mass which ended up 356 00:18:58,520 --> 00:19:03,200 Speaker 2: being a placent to intact with a baby moving underneath 357 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:06,760 Speaker 2: of it that was attached to the outside of her 358 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:11,720 Speaker 2: uterus like it was in her abdomen. So and they 359 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 2: they they saved the mom's life and they saved the 360 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:17,480 Speaker 2: baby's life. Like it's super super rare because they're highly 361 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 2: they're they're really really can be deadly. So then I 362 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:26,000 Speaker 2: showed another case of a woman who had the same 363 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:29,919 Speaker 2: exact thing and she died from it, and I showed 364 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:34,400 Speaker 2: what that would look like at autopsy. So what happens 365 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:39,159 Speaker 2: is when in a normal pregnancy, obviously it's supposed to 366 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 2: grow inside of the uterus, but when the sperm goes 367 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:47,159 Speaker 2: up and goes to meet the egg in the fallopian tube, 368 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:50,680 Speaker 2: it's supposed to then travel back down into the uterus 369 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 2: where it should start forming the baby, and that's where 370 00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 2: the pregnancy should be. But when the egg is released 371 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 2: during ovulation, there there's like a brief moment in time 372 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:05,919 Speaker 2: where that egg leaves is kind of like in the 373 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:11,160 Speaker 2: air or in it's in the cavity, the abdominal cavity 374 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:15,720 Speaker 2: or the pelvic cavity in between the ovary and the 375 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 2: Filippian tube before it grabs it. And if the egg 376 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:22,160 Speaker 2: gets fertilized in that little space there, it can grow 377 00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 2: outside of the uterus, or if it gets fertilized inside 378 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:29,880 Speaker 2: of the filopian tube, it could grow inside the filopian tube. 379 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:34,640 Speaker 2: So anytime a pregnancy grows anywhere except the uterus, then 380 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 2: it's called an ectopic pregnancy. So the most common ectopic 381 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:43,280 Speaker 2: pregnancies are filipian tube ones. Least common is abdominal ones. 382 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:46,480 Speaker 2: So that means it would just like happen right outside 383 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:51,400 Speaker 2: of the ovary or the filoppian tube. Usually like adheres 384 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 2: to the uterus, but in this case, it adhere to 385 00:20:56,359 --> 00:21:01,600 Speaker 2: the liver, which is it's never it's been documented before, 386 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 2: but it's never been documented that they decided to monitor 387 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:08,399 Speaker 2: her and she went full term and didn't die, and 388 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:09,400 Speaker 2: the baby didn't die. 389 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:12,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean this baby was almost eight pounds. 390 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:18,120 Speaker 2: It's really it's really really crazy because it's so dangerous 391 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:21,040 Speaker 2: for so many reasons. Because you have to think, like 392 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:24,880 Speaker 2: so number one, when the placenta under normal conditions. When 393 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 2: the placenta is growing inside of the uterus, it grows 394 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:32,159 Speaker 2: this certain layer underneath of it called the decidua, and 395 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:35,760 Speaker 2: that is a layer that's between the placenta itself and 396 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:38,440 Speaker 2: the uterus. So after you have the baby, it' should 397 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:42,400 Speaker 2: just like slide right on out, and it doesn't because 398 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:46,720 Speaker 2: you have this this thing that's growing like almost like 399 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 2: a tumor. You don't want it to start invading your uterus. 400 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:52,720 Speaker 2: You want it to come out when it's jobs done well. 401 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 2: When you have these kinds of abdominal pregnancies, and this 402 00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:59,040 Speaker 2: one with delivered, you don't have that l you don't 403 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 2: get that layer that that grows and there's not it 404 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:06,119 Speaker 2: almost grows into the organ like like a tumor would 405 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 2: like it adheres to it. And because it's such a 406 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:12,480 Speaker 2: vascular organ, especially the liver is such a vascular organ too, 407 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:18,120 Speaker 2: the risk of any minor injury like making that tearing 408 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:21,240 Speaker 2: that could kill the the woman had the and the 409 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:25,360 Speaker 2: baby as well. But also when a pregnancy is inside 410 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 2: of the uterus, it you the uterus is like a 411 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:34,679 Speaker 2: big like shield of armor of muscle around the baby. 412 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 2: So like if you get in a car accident or 413 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:39,160 Speaker 2: or you get I don't know, your kids are having 414 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:41,880 Speaker 2: like passing a ball around and you get hit by accident, 415 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 2: Like it's supposed to be like a like a shock 416 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 2: absorber for the pregnancy, and when the baby is in 417 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:53,760 Speaker 2: the abdominal cavity like that, there's no protection for it whatsoever. 418 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:59,160 Speaker 2: So and any minor trauma could just cause a huge problem. 419 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:02,720 Speaker 2: So someone so I did post about this in the grocerroom. 420 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:05,520 Speaker 2: Someone in the grocer room asked me if this was 421 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:09,080 Speaker 2: considered to be like eligible for termination, and I said, 422 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:11,640 Speaker 2: I'm sure, Like I don't, like I said, I don't 423 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 2: work in that field of obstetrics, but I would I 424 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:18,960 Speaker 2: would think that if if a woman came and had 425 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:23,600 Speaker 2: an abdominal pregnancy, that they would encourage termination because it 426 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:26,960 Speaker 2: is so deadly. But in these two cases, the one 427 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:28,920 Speaker 2: that I presented in the grocerym in this one right now, 428 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:32,639 Speaker 2: the baby did live, but to be monitored like that 429 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 2: is really really taking a risk for both the mom 430 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:36,919 Speaker 2: and the baby. 431 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:40,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I just can't even believe this is 432 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 1: even like considered viable and they'd risk her going through all. 433 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't know, like what the circumstances 434 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:52,879 Speaker 2: were it almost like it's if she was in the 435 00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:55,639 Speaker 2: hospital and could really be monitored like that. But I 436 00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:58,880 Speaker 2: can't imagine that anyone would put the resources for that. 437 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 2: It just would scare me so much to leave the 438 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:03,640 Speaker 2: house in a car even you know what I mean. 439 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:07,119 Speaker 1: Oh, totally right, guys. We have some new merch on 440 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:09,600 Speaker 1: the doormattershop dot com and you can grab a discount 441 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:12,440 Speaker 1: code for that in the description of this episode. Please 442 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 1: head over to Apple or Spotify to leave us a 443 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:17,919 Speaker 1: review or subscribe to our YouTube channel. 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