1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. 3 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:09,119 Speaker 2: All right, second hour Clay and Bock kicks off right now, everybody, 4 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:13,080 Speaker 2: and we're talking about the border. New numbers out from 5 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:18,479 Speaker 2: Customs and Border Patrol two hundred thousand plus migrant encounters 6 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:22,120 Speaker 2: since December first. It's only December twenty first, twenty days, 7 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:28,960 Speaker 2: over ten thousand illegal entries into the United States every day. 8 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:33,560 Speaker 2: It's a big deal. Everybody. We've got our friend Julio 9 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 2: Rosas with us now. He's a sub stack writer, so 10 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 2: he's independent journalist mostly peaceful. Dot life is his sub 11 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 2: stack and Julio, thanks for being here. Tell us where 12 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 2: you are on the border and give us some sense 13 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 2: of what you're seeing. 14 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 3: Thanks for having me books. So right now I am 15 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 3: by International Bridge two in Eagle Pass, Texas. I've been 16 00:00:56,760 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 3: to this spot many times over the past few years, 17 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 3: and this by far the worst I've ever seen it. 18 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 3: And it's because normally, with the previous high encounters, they 19 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 3: were able to keep War Patrol was able to keep 20 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:15,119 Speaker 3: the illegal immigrants all under the bridge or constantly they 21 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 3: had to have They're using the this little depression that's 22 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:22,320 Speaker 3: right next to the bridge as this massive holding area, 23 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 3: and as I've been seeing this morning, as soon as 24 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 3: war patrol clears out one of the lines to process people, 25 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:34,039 Speaker 3: another group that has crossed comes in and fills that 26 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 3: spot back up right again. So it is, you know, 27 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:39,840 Speaker 3: towards the end of the year, we're heading into an 28 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 3: election year where people are right now feeling that maybe 29 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 3: this is you know, kind of the last year for 30 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 3: them to illegally enter the country this way, you know, 31 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 3: in case there's a turn change in the administration for 32 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 3: the White House. So you know, there's a lot of 33 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 3: factors as to why not just an eagle pass, but 34 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 3: multiple areas along the border are experiencing an even bigger 35 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 3: surge when compared to the past couple of years. 36 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 2: So this is just to be clear, Julio, a part 37 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 2: of the Biden effect. I remember when Biden first came 38 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 2: into office, there were illegals at the border who were 39 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 2: on video saying, we're here because Joe Biden promised us 40 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 2: we could come into the country, or because Joe Biden's 41 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 2: the president, we know we can stay in America now, 42 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 2: and now there's a sense of what we better get 43 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:22,360 Speaker 2: in before there's the possibility that Joe Biden is not 44 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 2: the president and you have a Republican administration border patrol. 45 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 2: First off, will they are they able to talk to 46 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 2: you much, Julio, because I remember under the Trump administration 47 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:35,639 Speaker 2: it was come see what we're doing, talk to us. 48 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 2: Under the Biden administration, I can't anybody. I can't get 49 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:40,520 Speaker 2: anybody to give me a ride along anymore. Nobody will 50 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 2: talk to me in Ice. Nobody wants to talk to 51 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 2: me in border patrol except for some of the Union 52 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:46,520 Speaker 2: guys who have the ability to without fear of their jobs. 53 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:50,959 Speaker 3: Yes, I mean, yeah, I mean to answer the first part. Yeah, 54 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 3: this is absolutely a consequence of the Biden administration. It 55 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:57,400 Speaker 3: has been since day one. I've called the border crisis 56 00:02:57,440 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 3: his first crisis because he undid everything on his first day. 57 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:01,919 Speaker 2: Literally day one. 58 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 3: And yeah, no, in terms of with border patrol, they 59 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 3: I mean, there's a reason why they leaked to me. 60 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 3: They leaked to build illusion, and they leaked to some 61 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:13,839 Speaker 3: of the other Board of reporters because they cannot directly 62 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 3: talk to media. Because the Biden administration knows that if 63 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:22,920 Speaker 3: Border patrol agents in their official capacity were able to 64 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 3: candidly you know, not you know, politics aside. You know, 65 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:29,960 Speaker 3: they're able to candidly and honestly relate to us what 66 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 3: they're seeing every day. It would make them, would make 67 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 3: the bide administration look bad. And so that's why. Yeah, 68 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 3: I mean, the last time I was with Border Patrol 69 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 3: was in twenty twenty, right before for the election in October. 70 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 3: That's the last time I did anything official with them. 71 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 3: Everything else has been through with Texas Law Enforcement or 72 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 3: the Border Patrol Union. And which is hysterical because if 73 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 3: you remember, the Bido administration was coming in and saying, oh, 74 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 3: we're going to be the most transparent administration, you know, 75 00:03:57,680 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 3: compared to the last guy. And that's just and you 76 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 3: know that's falls on many fronts. But I can tell 77 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 3: you with my experience with the border, that is absolutely 78 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 3: not true. And if you remember when Title forty two 79 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 3: was going away earlier this year and there was that 80 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 3: dip in encounters, the b administration was trying to take 81 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:17,040 Speaker 3: a victory leapt saying, ah see, you know, there was 82 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:19,039 Speaker 3: no there was nothing to worry about everything. You know, 83 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:21,480 Speaker 3: there was just fearmonger from Republicans. But the only reason 84 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:23,840 Speaker 3: why that there was a dip in illegal crossings was 85 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 3: because the migrants in Mexico wanted to see. Okay, well, 86 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 3: you know, with this new change, this can affect us. 87 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:33,599 Speaker 3: And as we've seen, you know, they this is still 88 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 3: very much a free for all. 89 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 2: We're speaking to our friend Julio Rosas. He's down in 90 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 2: Eagle Pass, Texas, right on the US Mexico border, covering 91 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 2: the most just overflowing and overrun border in certainly in 92 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:52,040 Speaker 2: the last twenty years. Uh, Julio to that, And what 93 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 2: is the problem? I mean when there's I saw in 94 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:56,159 Speaker 2: the New York Post they said there are two hundred 95 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:59,279 Speaker 2: migrants for every border patrol officer right now in Eagle Pass. 96 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 2: Probably more than that, but that's what their estimate is. 97 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:08,480 Speaker 2: And what is the processing actually like when there's that overwhelmed, 98 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:11,839 Speaker 2: when resources are stretched that thin, what is it like? 99 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:14,479 Speaker 2: I mean, somebody shows up, they say what, and Border 100 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:20,280 Speaker 2: patrol does what? After they enter the country illegally, So typically. 101 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:22,160 Speaker 3: It takes about twenty minutes to fill out this paperwork 102 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 3: and essentially it's just you know, what are you doing here, 103 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 3: where you're from, where you're trying to go, And then 104 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:31,119 Speaker 3: it's a matter of scheduling their court date if they're 105 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:34,119 Speaker 3: going to claim asylum. Now, of course, as we've seen, 106 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:38,599 Speaker 3: there's a lot of people who are not asylum in 107 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 3: the streets of definition for that, the US gives that 108 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 3: claim for a lot of these people. Not everyone, but 109 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 3: a lot of these people are economic asylums speakers, which 110 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 3: doesn't fall under the protections that they're trying to seek. 111 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 3: But that's the problem. When you have all these people, 112 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 3: you can't really take the time to really go through 113 00:05:57,760 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 3: their history, go to the background checks, which are completely incomplete, 114 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:06,280 Speaker 3: because it depends on if their home country is reliable 115 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 3: to provide that update to US in states. So and 116 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:12,160 Speaker 3: you know, of course it's not just Central or South America. 117 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:15,040 Speaker 3: This is people coming from all over the world. So 118 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:18,919 Speaker 3: the background checks are very very minimal. The the initial 119 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 3: screening is very minimal. But because again the Biden administration 120 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:25,039 Speaker 3: wants to avoid the optics of having all these people 121 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 3: waiting outside for days on and it's just processed them, 122 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 3: process them as. 123 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:30,679 Speaker 4: Quickly as you can. It's it's basically like a conveyor belt. 124 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 3: Essentially, where is it who is really quick? 125 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 2: Is anyone immediately like turned around that expelled from what 126 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 2: you're seeing? How often does that happen? 127 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 3: That that if they are you know, found to be 128 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 3: you know, you know, they just cannot make a claim 129 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 3: for whatever reason, depending on their answers or if they 130 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:53,360 Speaker 3: have if something pops back up on a criminal background check, 131 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:56,599 Speaker 3: that takes it. That takes a day or two. And 132 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:59,920 Speaker 3: and as we've seen, uh, they're they're deporting about it, 133 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 3: you know, step in the right direction, but it's a 134 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 3: drop in the bucket when you have thousands coming across. 135 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 2: And then how many are they deporting you actually, you 136 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 2: cut off there, at least for me for a second. 137 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 2: How many are being deported? A couple hundred per day, 138 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 2: A couple of one hundred, okay, so ten thousand, just 139 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 2: to be ten thousand are entering across the whole border. 140 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 2: And from what you can tell, a couple of hundred 141 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 2: is that in your sector. 142 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 3: That's for the entire that's for the entire southern border. 143 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 2: That's the whole border. Okay, So I just want to 144 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 2: I want her to hear these numbers, right, ten thousand 145 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 2: illegal entries a day, A couple of hundred who were 146 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 2: told no, no, no, you don't get to stay. So 147 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 2: nine eight hundred are like free and clear going to 148 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 2: the United States. Do whatever they want. Maybe we'll see 149 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 2: them in five years in court, but we won't. Okay. 150 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 2: How does Border Patrol feel about this? I mean they've 151 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 2: got to be looking at this like are they like 152 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 2: the Welcome and Committee. 153 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 3: They're completely demoralized. They've been demoralized going on two years now. 154 00:07:55,560 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 3: I mean there's the number of resignations in early departures 155 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 3: from Border Patrol because this isn't what they found up 156 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 3: to do. They didn't sign up to me essentially Walmart 157 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 3: readers and Uber drivers for people who are entering the 158 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 3: country this way. And the problem is that now it's 159 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 3: not just the border patrol agents, but it's the towns 160 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 3: you know, people you know for people don't know. Border 161 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 3: communities on both the American and the Mexican side rely 162 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 3: on the ports of entry being open. Well right now, 163 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 3: there's only one bridge that is completely open for vehicular traffic. 164 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 3: When I was coming back from Mexico into the United 165 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 3: States yesterday where there was one gentleman with his wife 166 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 3: who is about to enter the United States and he 167 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 3: had been in line for eleven hours in his car. 168 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 3: He had been in there since six am and he 169 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 3: was finally getting into the border by around five pm, 170 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 3: and so that disrupts trade, that disrupts the local economy. 171 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 3: So it's not just the bor patrol agents are feeling that. 172 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 3: It's the towns on both sides. And it's a problem 173 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:54,679 Speaker 3: when it's not just one town, right, it's all these 174 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 3: other towns that are also having alpasso. Their rail operations 175 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 3: were suspended because the custom agents. Custom officers have to 176 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 3: be redeployed elsewhere to provide back social agents. 177 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:08,080 Speaker 2: So it's not Yeah, it's not even just that the 178 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:10,680 Speaker 2: border's wide open for the cartels to smuggle in drugs 179 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 2: alongside the human smuggling. It's shut down for legitimate commercial 180 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 2: activity now because of that. I mean, this is it 181 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:21,200 Speaker 2: really just keeps getting worse, Julio. Is there any sense 182 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 2: at all from the people you talk to you down 183 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 2: to the border who are tasked with trying to keep 184 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:27,360 Speaker 2: this from just I don't know, I don't know how 185 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:29,079 Speaker 2: much worse it could really get, but trying to hold 186 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 2: it together to the degree they can. You know, the 187 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 2: Senate is talking about some kind of change in rules 188 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:39,080 Speaker 2: and maybe the Biden administration will do something. Is the 189 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:41,719 Speaker 2: belief that the numbers will start to go down next 190 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:44,839 Speaker 2: year in anticipation of the election, or is everyone just saying, 191 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 2: throw your hands up in the air, it's going to 192 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 2: be a free for all. 193 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 3: The common sentiment that it's going to be a free 194 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 3: for all, because like I said, right when we have 195 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 3: an election with Donald Trump probably being the nominee and 196 00:09:57,840 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 3: you know, having his history where it comes to the border, 197 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:03,600 Speaker 3: a lot of people are definitely going to see you're 198 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 3: definitely gonna make that decision. You know, they've seen all 199 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:08,320 Speaker 3: their friends, they've seen all their families who already made 200 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 3: the journey and already in the United States. You know, 201 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 3: if if they were waiting before the election, is going 202 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 3: to kind of put light of fire under them to 203 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 3: be like, okay, we have this is it's now or 204 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 3: never because they don't want to have to risk that 205 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:25,840 Speaker 3: this golden ticket, this golden opportunity, uh you know, them. 206 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 2: Missing out on it. Uh. 207 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 3: So I think I think that's again, like I was saying, 208 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:31,840 Speaker 3: I think that's part of the reason why December is 209 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:34,840 Speaker 3: just getting absolutely planned right now with with the numbers, 210 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 3: because I mean the primary, the IQ primaries next month, 211 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 3: right so, or the Caucass secuity. So I mean this 212 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:45,319 Speaker 3: we're we're getting the full swing of election season that 213 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 3: they're seeing all their friends and family here and and 214 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:51,319 Speaker 3: it's pretty interesting too, because you know, a lot of 215 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 3: the sanctuary cities in the United States, they're they're saying 216 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:56,679 Speaker 3: that we can't take anymore. Well, I'm here to tell 217 00:10:56,720 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 3: them that too bad. They're coming because the Bide administration 218 00:10:59,960 --> 00:11:02,840 Speaker 3: is gonna stop them. 219 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:05,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, New York, Chicago, LA, and others. They're going to 220 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 2: keep getting more and more of the illegals that they 221 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 2: already admit they cannot afford to take in, they cannot 222 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 2: handle as the numbers are piling up. Julio. Always good 223 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 2: to have some from the front lines, down on the 224 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:22,319 Speaker 2: ground perspective on this. So thank you for your your 225 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 2: fieldwork down there in Eagle Pass and go check out 226 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:31,080 Speaker 2: Julio Rosauce's substack mostly Peaceful dot Life. 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Check out the Upside app promo code Buck. 263 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 1: Today the Torch of Truth passed and still lit every day. 264 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 1: The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show. 265 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 2: How long do we keep our Christmas trees? I was 266 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 2: this is this is something that I'm thinking. We have 267 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:32,040 Speaker 2: a very nice tree here in the Sexton household, and 268 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:36,080 Speaker 2: our dog has not pulled that many ornaments off the 269 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:38,840 Speaker 2: tree yet. We did have to build a little fence 270 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 2: around it, but you know, she can't get over the fence, 271 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 2: so that's good. But we had some friends over for 272 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 2: dinner last night and we were playing the Christmas music 273 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:48,679 Speaker 2: and I was wondering, first of all, is there at 274 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:51,800 Speaker 2: Christmas Christmas time? Is there too much Christmas music? Ever, 275 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 2: is that a thing you have to Did you ever 276 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 2: switch it over to just you know, classic rock or something, 277 00:13:56,880 --> 00:13:59,440 Speaker 2: or do you just go Christmas music twenty four to seven? 278 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:01,560 Speaker 2: And then how long do you keep your tree? For 279 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 2: those of you who have trees, we went with a 280 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 2: standard classic Christmas tree. I did think a little palm 281 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:09,080 Speaker 2: tree in honor of Florida would be kind of fun. 282 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 2: But you know, it's tough to get a tiny palm tree, 283 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 2: I guess, or at least a real one plastic tree. 284 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:16,960 Speaker 2: I was shot down on that one. I figured plastic 285 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 2: tree so easy to clean up, but I was told 286 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 2: that that was not how we were going to do 287 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 2: it this year. I've also been told already that See, 288 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 2: the great thing is when you get a puppy and 289 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 2: you have a wife or you know, a husband, depending 290 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 2: on you know who's in charge of the dog mostly, 291 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 2: but the other person is mostly in charge of the dog. 292 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 2: You get to play with the puppy all the time, 293 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 2: and then you're like, you know what, I think I 294 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 2: want another one. But I have been told we're going 295 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:43,440 Speaker 2: to hold off on the other one for a little 296 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 2: while because that would be a lot because I'm not 297 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 2: the one who's dealing with the majority of the puppy upkeep. 298 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 2: I just get to play with her, and some of 299 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:54,480 Speaker 2: you can see on the I have you know, scratch 300 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 2: I've been having scratches and little cuts on my hands. 301 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 2: That's from playtime with the puppy. So watch us on 302 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 2: the on the YouTube or on some of the social 303 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 2: media videos we put up. If you're wondering, no, I 304 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 2: have not. I have not you know, embarked on like 305 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 2: a fencing career or something. Oh, I guess fencing, you 306 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 2: wouldn't get cuts on your hands. Really, I did fence 307 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:19,280 Speaker 2: a little bit growing up, very rudimentary, like the intro defencing, 308 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 2: intro to boxing, intro to fencing, intro to judo through 309 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 2: the New York Athletic Club what they called the Saturday 310 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:28,560 Speaker 2: Morning Boys Program. And the one thing I really did. 311 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 2: Judo was cool. Even wrestling was cool. Boxing was was 312 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 2: was good. Of course, the fencing was the one thing 313 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:37,480 Speaker 2: I couldn't really get into. I don't know. I prefer 314 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 2: the There are these groups now that do it's like 315 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 2: fencing but broad sword fighting. So think of the some 316 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 2: of the swords you'd see well in Braveheart that's a 317 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 2: that's a two. William Wallace is swinging around a two 318 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 2: handed great sword, which is enormous. It was a real 319 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 2: thing really only used for dueling, not used in the battlefield, 320 00:15:57,200 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 2: which makes sense when you think about it. You know 321 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:01,080 Speaker 2: you're gonna be in close orders of people trying to 322 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:04,440 Speaker 2: swing around a six foot long sword is it's gonna 323 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 2: be a little unwieldy. And if somebody else just has 324 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 2: a dirk, you know a little dagger and can just 325 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 2: kind of sneak up on you or spear and get you, 326 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:15,680 Speaker 2: get you quickly? How did I get onto like medieval 327 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 2: warfare and swords? This went? I was talking about Christmas trees, 328 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 2: Christmas trees, and maybe even Christmas movies, you know what 329 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 2: I mean. Sometimes this is just where the mind goes. 330 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:29,560 Speaker 2: But I was thinking also of my favorite what would 331 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 2: be my favorite Christmas movie? And if you're talking classics, 332 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 2: classic Christmas movies, you know there's a miracle on forty 333 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:43,520 Speaker 2: second Street, right, there's what's the one with the kid 334 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 2: with the BB gun? That's a Christmas story? 335 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 3: Right? 336 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:49,280 Speaker 2: Where did and the other kid like us? They used 337 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 2: to show this in school when the teachers were sick 338 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 2: around this time of year, if we had like a 339 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 2: substitute teacher. Do you guys know what I'm talking about? 340 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 2: Is it a Christmas story? The kid puts his tongue 341 00:16:56,600 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 2: on the frozen poll. That's where I learned, don't do 342 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 2: that Christmas to worry? Right, Yeah, yeah, that's that's a 343 00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:04,639 Speaker 2: classic one. But if you're looking in the modern era, 344 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:08,440 Speaker 2: I gave you guys the movie to watch after Christmas 345 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:10,880 Speaker 2: with your family if you have never seen it before. 346 00:17:11,320 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 2: I just think Master and Commander is a great and 347 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 2: very underrated movie for what it is. And a lot 348 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:16,679 Speaker 2: of you reacted to that yesterday and we posted that 349 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:20,880 Speaker 2: clip from the show on social media. I gotta say, 350 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:23,920 Speaker 2: the Original Home Alone is a really good movie? Am 351 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:27,159 Speaker 2: I alone of thinking this? The Original Home Alone for 352 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 2: a Christmas movie is a really good movie. You can 353 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:32,480 Speaker 2: watch it with the whole family. I mean, it is 354 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 2: a little I'm not trying to be a spoiler here, 355 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:37,040 Speaker 2: you know. I feel like they could have called the 356 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 2: neighbors and said, hey, can you check on Kevin and 357 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:44,479 Speaker 2: see if you know? But whatever, suspend your disbelief. Joe Peshi, 358 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:47,960 Speaker 2: Joe Pesci quite a range as an actor. I've got 359 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:51,199 Speaker 2: to say from my cousin Vinnie, to home alone to 360 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:56,560 Speaker 2: playing various nasty gangsters and good Fellas and casino. So yeah, 361 00:17:56,600 --> 00:17:59,240 Speaker 2: my wreck is a home alone one. 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All right, welcome 381 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:05,360 Speaker 2: MACKI and everybody. Clay and Buck show play in Australia 382 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:09,119 Speaker 2: having a great time. Clay and makes me want to 383 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:11,480 Speaker 2: go to Australia because he has gotten to hang out 384 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:14,960 Speaker 2: with a koala already, I am jealous. Although people always 385 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:19,480 Speaker 2: say koalas are kind of mean and they eat eucalyptus leaves, 386 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 2: I think which chill them out a little bit, Like 387 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 2: could I feed some eucalyptus leaves to ginger? I don't 388 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:27,920 Speaker 2: think I can give her ginger. I think dogs can't 389 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 2: eat ginger, right, I know they can't eat garlic. There's 390 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 2: all these foods you're not supposed to eat during I 391 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 2: only give her. She's very spoiled. We give her like 392 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 2: specialized treats. She's on a like a raw food diet. 393 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:39,720 Speaker 2: And you know yet last night I made some steaks 394 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:41,560 Speaker 2: and gave her a little bit of filet mignon. So 395 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:45,119 Speaker 2: she's very spoiled, as every good little puppy should be. 396 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:50,359 Speaker 2: But yeah, koalas they are. They look really cute and cuddly. 397 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 2: They are not in real life. I think that's also 398 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:56,360 Speaker 2: true of kangaroos. You mess with a kangaroo. You've all 399 00:19:56,359 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 2: seen that video where the guy has to his dog 400 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 2: from the grasp of a rather large kangaroo and he 401 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:06,040 Speaker 2: kind of throws it like a right cross and hits 402 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:09,440 Speaker 2: the kangaroo. And yeah, you never know, so things could 403 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:12,359 Speaker 2: get crazy down there in Australia. I'll have to go 404 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 2: check it out for myself at some point. All right, 405 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:15,919 Speaker 2: we've got a lot of calls in eight hundred two 406 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:18,480 Speaker 2: A two two eight a two. It's holiday season, hanging 407 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 2: out with all of you across the country. Maybe putting 408 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:25,240 Speaker 2: the finishing touches on your tree right now. Maybe after 409 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:30,679 Speaker 2: I outed myself as wrapping paper inept. Maybe you've been 410 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 2: watching some YouTube tutorials or however you improve your wrapping skills, 411 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 2: because that's a that's a thing that you could be 412 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:42,239 Speaker 2: doing this holiday season. Worry you know, maybe you're going 413 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:44,199 Speaker 2: to a soup kitchen and just like helping people and 414 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 2: really getting into the Christmas spirit. There's also that that 415 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:50,480 Speaker 2: part of it too, which I think is important. The 416 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:53,159 Speaker 2: commercialization of Christmas. I don't want to sound like a grinch, 417 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:57,960 Speaker 2: but the over commercialization of Christmas is something that I 418 00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:00,639 Speaker 2: you know, look, it's always about a right you want 419 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:02,480 Speaker 2: to have to the tree and the presence and fun 420 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:04,439 Speaker 2: and and all that stuff is great, but you know, 421 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:07,640 Speaker 2: it is supposed to be about for Christians at least 422 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 2: the birth of Jesus, our Savior, and also a time 423 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:14,280 Speaker 2: to reflect and be with family and think about what 424 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:17,920 Speaker 2: really matters. I want to get to some calls. We 425 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:21,679 Speaker 2: have Rodney in Hampton Roads, Virginia. What's up, Rodney? 426 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 5: Hey, thanks you thinking my call A great show. Last time, 427 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 5: I think Nmber I was talking to Rush, but I 428 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:33,520 Speaker 5: wanted to weigh in on something. I'm an African American 429 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:37,760 Speaker 5: US history teacher and author here in Hampton Vials, Virginia, 430 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 5: and our last governor I actually wrote to him concerning 431 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:43,480 Speaker 5: this whole thing about taking down Confederate statues. 432 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:48,560 Speaker 2: Was that mccallus, no North northumb I'm sorry, yeah, I 433 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:49,359 Speaker 2: was thinking, go ahead. 434 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:54,280 Speaker 4: And the interesting thing is this we really lost context. 435 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:58,600 Speaker 4: My suggestion was that every time you have let's say, 436 00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:03,679 Speaker 4: for example, a statue of Jefferson Davis, for example, you 437 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 4: don't take him down. You put up Lincoln next to him, 438 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:09,879 Speaker 4: and they're turning together, they're looking at each other in 439 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:13,399 Speaker 4: the eye and they're shaking hands. Anytime you have a lead, 440 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:15,840 Speaker 4: you put a you put a grant next to him, 441 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:18,800 Speaker 4: and Grant's cut his hand on his shoulder and they're 442 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 4: looking towards the sky, you know, because you know, we 443 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:26,640 Speaker 4: brought closure to this war, and we don't have closure 444 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 4: represented in these statue. In these statues, it's not about 445 00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:35,680 Speaker 4: taking things down. It's it's it's about changing the context 446 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 4: and teaching a history. 447 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:37,480 Speaker 6: You know. 448 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:39,600 Speaker 4: We used to we used to talk about the poem 449 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:43,480 Speaker 4: of Johnny rev and Billy Yank, the two soldiers you 450 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:47,120 Speaker 4: know on either side they would trade cigarettes for coffee, 451 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 4: and they would you know, stop stop shooting at each 452 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:52,560 Speaker 4: other for a while and and and show some humanity. 453 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 4: That's kind of what we need to do. We need 454 00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:59,919 Speaker 4: to stop and put things in context. And rather than 455 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:04,040 Speaker 4: seeing you know, taking another thing down, which which just 456 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:07,200 Speaker 4: you know, it makes some people angry, and the changes 457 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:09,879 Speaker 4: the perspective of history that we can learn from. 458 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:13,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, well it's first of all, Rodney, I mean, excellent perspective. 459 00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:17,720 Speaker 2: And and and thank you for uh putting these these 460 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:20,360 Speaker 2: thoughts out there and giving us this this context of 461 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:24,160 Speaker 2: this particular work as I had described in the first 462 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:28,800 Speaker 2: hour the Confederate Memorial in Arlington Cemetery. It's it's a 463 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:32,960 Speaker 2: piece of art, it's a piece of history. It's there's 464 00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:37,280 Speaker 2: important history that led up to its specific creation and 465 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:42,159 Speaker 2: and it was part of healing and the reconciliation of 466 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 2: of the country. And I would say that Jim Webb, 467 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:48,200 Speaker 2: who is a you know, formerly in politics, he is 468 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:50,680 Speaker 2: a former marine as well. I mentioned this op ed 469 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:52,200 Speaker 2: he wrote the Wall Street Journal, and part of it 470 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 2: which I didn't get to and thank you for calling 471 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:56,920 Speaker 2: in Rodney. Part of it was he said he went 472 00:23:57,040 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 2: to uh, you know, he went to Vietnam, and he 473 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 2: was part of the effort to try to bring us 474 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:08,680 Speaker 2: effectively to a different place. Here you go, he wrote 475 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:10,639 Speaker 2: in nineteen ninety two, as a private citizen and a 476 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:13,160 Speaker 2: veteran of the Vietnam War. This is from his op 477 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:16,119 Speaker 2: ed quote. I was seeking to begin a process of 478 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 2: reconciliation with our former enemy and hosted a delegation of 479 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 2: Vietnamese Vietnamese officials in Washington. One of my objectives was 480 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:26,920 Speaker 2: to encourage Hanoi finally to make peace with the South 481 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:29,800 Speaker 2: Vietnamese veterans who had fought against the North and who 482 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:33,200 Speaker 2: after the war were labeled traders, denied any official recognition 483 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 2: as veterans, and hundreds of thousands were imprisoned in re 484 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 2: education camps. To make my point web Rights, I brought 485 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:43,520 Speaker 2: them to the Confederate Memorial, pointing across the Potomac River 486 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:46,919 Speaker 2: from Arlington National Cemetery towards Lincoln Memorial. I told them 487 00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:49,040 Speaker 2: the story of how America healed its wounds from our 488 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:51,920 Speaker 2: own Civil war. The Potomac River was like the ben 489 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:56,679 Speaker 2: High River, which divided North and South Vietnam. And he 490 00:24:56,720 --> 00:25:00,639 Speaker 2: wrote this, of course, in support of not removing the 491 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:05,960 Speaker 2: Confederate Memorial. But I've been to Vietnam just as a tourist. 492 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 2: I just went. I was curious. It's a really fascinating country. 493 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:14,199 Speaker 2: I mean I culturally, I find it very interesting. My 494 00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 2: little brother and I went many years ago. And one 495 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:24,600 Speaker 2: thing that is you as an American. It's certainly going 496 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:27,360 Speaker 2: to be most people's first experiences with this. They have 497 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:32,240 Speaker 2: a war, I'm sorry, a museum rather devoted to I 498 00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:37,399 Speaker 2: forget the specific description, but it's basically the War of 499 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:42,160 Speaker 2: American atrocities and military aggression. A museum, I keep saying, 500 00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:46,960 Speaker 2: war museum a museum dedicated to the war of that aggression. 501 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:49,399 Speaker 2: So we're the bad guys at the point. There's a 502 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:53,080 Speaker 2: whole museum in Vietnam of America as the bad guys 503 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 2: in the Vietnam War, and they show stuff in there, 504 00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:58,240 Speaker 2: and they show stuff a lot of it. Now of 505 00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:01,600 Speaker 2: course they're all, you know, their own atrocities, and they're 506 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 2: I mean, that's all left out, and this is it's propaganda. 507 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:06,600 Speaker 2: It's a propaganda museum, but it's not something you're used 508 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:08,040 Speaker 2: to seeing as an American. A lot of place you're 509 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:09,520 Speaker 2: not going to see that in Germany, you're not going 510 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:13,200 Speaker 2: to see that in Japan, and you're not going to 511 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 2: see in South Korea. You would if you were allowed 512 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:18,040 Speaker 2: in North Korea, but of course you're not allowed. The 513 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:19,800 Speaker 2: point though, that web made in that, and that op 514 00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:22,040 Speaker 2: ed I think is a strong one, which is when 515 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:24,119 Speaker 2: a conflict is over, we have to come together as 516 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:27,480 Speaker 2: human beings and get beyond that conflict. That there's there's 517 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:31,679 Speaker 2: worth in that, there's merit in that, there's a duty 518 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:35,800 Speaker 2: in that, and in order to bring the country together 519 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:38,960 Speaker 2: after remember I mentioned almost three hundred thousand dead on 520 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:41,879 Speaker 2: the Confederate side, obviously hundreds of thousands dead on the 521 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:46,680 Speaker 2: Union side as well, but many many thousands and thousands 522 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:51,000 Speaker 2: of maimed and you know, lost legs, lost eyes, lost 523 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:55,119 Speaker 2: arms in this fight, and they lost. And then it 524 00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:59,280 Speaker 2: was time for the country to come together and move on. 525 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:03,240 Speaker 2: The battle was lost by one side. The country needed 526 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:07,200 Speaker 2: to come together and move on. And the Arlington monument 527 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:11,080 Speaker 2: that now they are in the process of removing from Arlington. 528 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:15,399 Speaker 2: You know, the Confederate monument at Arlington Cemetery was meant 529 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:19,240 Speaker 2: to be a part of that process. It is not 530 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:22,800 Speaker 2: a monument to oh Man the North, where the North 531 00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:25,840 Speaker 2: were awful and Lincoln was a tyrant and slavery should 532 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:30,040 Speaker 2: have been maintained, none of that. It was they fought, 533 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:33,760 Speaker 2: they fought hard, they lost. Let's bring the country together. 534 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:37,560 Speaker 2: That was supposed to be the sentiment behind it. That 535 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:39,959 Speaker 2: was why it was constructed, and there was it was 536 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 2: serving a purpose at the time. And why is its 537 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:49,480 Speaker 2: removal worthwhile? Now? What does that accomplish, especially at a 538 00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:51,520 Speaker 2: time we recognize we are very divided as a country 539 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,359 Speaker 2: and there is a movement to foot We're quite aware 540 00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:59,520 Speaker 2: of this, to tear down our shared history, including the founders, 541 00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:03,280 Speaker 2: including the Constitution written by you know, racist white men 542 00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:06,800 Speaker 2: and all of this. No one really believes that it's 543 00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:09,480 Speaker 2: just about the Confederates anymore. Right, we all understand that. 544 00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:12,000 Speaker 2: And if you have any doubts about this, go and 545 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:14,880 Speaker 2: see some of the other statues that have been vandalized 546 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:19,359 Speaker 2: and destroyed, always by people on the left, Democrats, Democrat voters. 547 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:21,840 Speaker 2: I'm not saying all Democrats do this or agree with this, 548 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:25,040 Speaker 2: but the people that do this stuff, it's Democrats, just 549 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:27,760 Speaker 2: like the you know, the BLM rioters, Democrats, not people 550 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:32,520 Speaker 2: on the right. And it's it's not going to stop 551 00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:34,520 Speaker 2: until we make it stop. It's not going to stop 552 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:36,680 Speaker 2: until we as a country understand that there's something more 553 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:41,480 Speaker 2: important than appeasing those whose feelings will never be a 554 00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:44,080 Speaker 2: pieced because it's not about justice, it's about power, and 555 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:46,720 Speaker 2: it's about power. Right now, and the moment that you 556 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:50,120 Speaker 2: understand that, you see exactly where they're going with it, 557 00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:51,680 Speaker 2: I want to say more your cross eight hundred two 558 00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:54,000 Speaker 2: two two eight eight two. Also in the next hour, 559 00:28:54,120 --> 00:29:01,200 Speaker 2: the president of Harvard forty plagiarism accusations now forty four zero. 560 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:03,320 Speaker 2: Is she going to be able to stay as the 561 00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:08,360 Speaker 2: president of the most you know, elite academic institution in 562 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:10,960 Speaker 2: the world, or at least people at Harvard believe. So 563 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:13,880 Speaker 2: we will discuss that and I will tell you where 564 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,560 Speaker 2: I think it's all going. But you know, you worked 565 00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:20,360 Speaker 2: hard to build your retirement savings. It's important. So you 566 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:23,560 Speaker 2: deserve an investment that delivers consistent returns without compromising your 567 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:28,280 Speaker 2: financial security. So you can get yield without taking crazy risk. 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Find it in 586 00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:27,480 Speaker 1: the Clay and Buck podcast feed, on the iHeartRadio appon 587 00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:29,640 Speaker 1: or wherever you get your podcasts. 588 00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 2: Welcome back in. As I said, We're going to dive 589 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:37,920 Speaker 2: into the latest controversy around the president of Harvard's plagiarism accusations, 590 00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:43,040 Speaker 2: and I'll revisit why I am not inclined toward mercy 591 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:48,800 Speaker 2: in this plagiarism case. I'll revisit the history of doctor 592 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:52,040 Speaker 2: Gay as an academic and what she has done with 593 00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:54,520 Speaker 2: the power she has at Harvard. But I did want 594 00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:57,640 Speaker 2: to get to some more of your calls because I 595 00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:00,560 Speaker 2: got you guys today and tomorrow, and then I'm on vacation. 596 00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:03,960 Speaker 2: My wife's birthday is Christmas. My birthday is December twenty eighth, 597 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:09,400 Speaker 2: so next week is birthday week, and then I will 598 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:10,760 Speaker 2: be back with all of you. Clay is going to 599 00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:15,160 Speaker 2: be in Australia the first week of January, so I'll 600 00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:17,520 Speaker 2: be solo with you for four of those five days, 601 00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:21,080 Speaker 2: I think. And Michael Barry the Czarov Talk Are are 602 00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:23,960 Speaker 2: good buddy and a great radio host. He's stepping in 603 00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:26,280 Speaker 2: next week to make sure. You're going to have a 604 00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:30,600 Speaker 2: whole bunch of you know, new shows, live shows going 605 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:32,160 Speaker 2: on next week too, so make sure you tune in 606 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:36,959 Speaker 2: for those. We have a few calls up here. Let's 607 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:40,880 Speaker 2: see Elizabeth in Fort Lauderdale, Florida. What's going on? 608 00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:45,280 Speaker 7: Elizabeth, Hey Buck, thanks for taking my call. I wanted to. 609 00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:47,560 Speaker 7: I've been listening to you since the early days of 610 00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:48,200 Speaker 7: the Blaze. 611 00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:49,479 Speaker 2: Oh wow, thank you. 612 00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:53,200 Speaker 7: Love the morning I wanted. Today's my birthday. I was 613 00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:56,040 Speaker 7: calling to wish you a happy birthday on the twenty eighth, 614 00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:58,960 Speaker 7: to welcome you to South Florida at a very merry 615 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:01,800 Speaker 7: Christmas for you and your new lovely wife. And by 616 00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:05,080 Speaker 7: the way, one of my very favorite Christmas movies You're 617 00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:09,360 Speaker 7: not gonna believe it before political correctness, the Muppet Christmas 618 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:10,800 Speaker 7: Carol with Michael Caine. 619 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:14,720 Speaker 2: Interesting, you know, I don't I've seen that, but I 620 00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:17,280 Speaker 2: was a kid. I don't really remember it. First of all, 621 00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:19,160 Speaker 2: thank you for the kind of birthday wish is an 622 00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:24,000 Speaker 2: happy birthday to you, fellow fellow South Florida resident, South Florida, 623 00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:27,680 Speaker 2: South Florida. We South Floridians this time of year, we 624 00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:33,160 Speaker 2: feel very wise. We feel very very smart in our choice. 625 00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:34,520 Speaker 7: We're grateful to live here. 626 00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:38,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, well of our geography. As I see people are 627 00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:41,440 Speaker 2: try to get three feet of snow out from around 628 00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:44,080 Speaker 2: the car elsewhere. I'm like, well, yes, I had to 629 00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:45,800 Speaker 2: put on a sweatshirt last night. It was it was 630 00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:49,080 Speaker 2: chilly here, so anyway, but yes, we feel very very 631 00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:51,800 Speaker 2: sly this time of year. And I'll have to check 632 00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:53,520 Speaker 2: out the Muppet. I'll see if Carrie will want to 633 00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:55,240 Speaker 2: watch that one with me. We're gonna have I'm gonna 634 00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:57,520 Speaker 2: be with her family for Christmas, so I'm sure we're 635 00:32:57,520 --> 00:32:59,800 Speaker 2: gonna have some some Christmas movie watching to do. And 636 00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:02,400 Speaker 2: I'm up at Christmas. I love them up. It's growing up. 637 00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:04,600 Speaker 2: It was actually my dream for a while to get 638 00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:07,640 Speaker 2: a French bulldog and name her Miss Piggy, so because 639 00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:08,920 Speaker 2: I just thought that would be a good name for 640 00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:11,480 Speaker 2: a French bulldog. There's probably a million Miss Piggy French 641 00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:14,240 Speaker 2: bulldogs out there. But thank you for calling in. Elizabeth 642 00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:20,840 Speaker 2: Ford Lotter, the Happy birthday to you. We have wait 643 00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:25,520 Speaker 2: where as uh, yeah, Mark is with us in Saint Paul, Minnesota. 644 00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:25,840 Speaker 2: What's up? 645 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:26,080 Speaker 6: Mark? 646 00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:31,760 Speaker 4: I have a question for you today. If Joe Biden's 647 00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:35,120 Speaker 4: handling of the border has been ruled illegal by the 648 00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:42,000 Speaker 4: Supreme Court, why is Congress funding one nickel of anything 649 00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:44,360 Speaker 4: that touches illegal immigration? 650 00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:47,760 Speaker 2: Well? Okay, so what's going on? Mark? Thank you for Colin, 651 00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:49,280 Speaker 2: and I'll answer your question. What's going on at the 652 00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:59,160 Speaker 2: border is effectively law enforcement nullification, so they're not enforcing 653 00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:02,600 Speaker 2: the laws that are on the There's very little oversight 654 00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:06,880 Speaker 2: to stop this other than impeachment, which people are making 655 00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:10,120 Speaker 2: the case. Hey, you know, he is not faithfully executing 656 00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:12,920 Speaker 2: the laws of office, and that's certainly a case that 657 00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:15,480 Speaker 2: could be made. I think the only countercase against that 658 00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:18,680 Speaker 2: really is what are the political ramifications of that in 659 00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:21,000 Speaker 2: this election year. If you think they're good, well great, 660 00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:22,600 Speaker 2: But if you think they're bad, maybe you don't want 661 00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:24,800 Speaker 2: to do that because there's no chance of removing Biden 662 00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:26,399 Speaker 2: from office with the Senate as it is. We all 663 00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:28,719 Speaker 2: know that, and I don't even think you can get all 664 00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:30,279 Speaker 2: the votes you need for impeachment in the House. To 665 00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:34,000 Speaker 2: be honest, with you. So, yeah, it's a question of 666 00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:37,240 Speaker 2: it's really a dereliction of duty issue. It's not a 667 00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:40,120 Speaker 2: you know that the court isn't weighing in on this 668 00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:43,160 Speaker 2: specifically and saying well, Biden's not doing a good job. 669 00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:47,360 Speaker 2: So yeah, the money that they're spending is money that 670 00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:50,319 Speaker 2: is already appropriated for the purposes of the border. They're 671 00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:53,040 Speaker 2: just not spending it on deportations. They're spending it on 672 00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:57,000 Speaker 2: you know, healthcare for illegals and food and you know, 673 00:34:57,000 --> 00:35:01,640 Speaker 2: bring them into the country as fast as they We 674 00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:04,640 Speaker 2: have one more call up that I can get to here. 675 00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:08,960 Speaker 2: What was it was? Uh, Murray and Colorado Estate. We've 676 00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:10,520 Speaker 2: been talking a lot this week. What's up, Murray? 677 00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:11,879 Speaker 7: Oh? 678 00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:14,800 Speaker 6: Hi, Yeah, I've just been listening to everything all along. 679 00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:19,920 Speaker 6: My dad's buried at Arlington National Cemetery. Uh, four generation 680 00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:23,320 Speaker 6: native Colorado, and I just want to, you know, observation 681 00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:28,680 Speaker 6: to the people that rewrite history are the most dangerous 682 00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:33,000 Speaker 6: people in the world, especially in the United States, because 683 00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:36,600 Speaker 6: when you do that, you you, like you say, you 684 00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:40,480 Speaker 6: remove the truth, You move the progress that we've made. 685 00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:43,080 Speaker 6: Such as Martin Luther King wanting to judge people by 686 00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:45,960 Speaker 6: the character and not by the color of their skin, 687 00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:48,560 Speaker 6: which I talked to Rush about, and it just needs 688 00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:52,640 Speaker 6: to be shouting from the rooftops. These people are absolutely 689 00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:55,200 Speaker 6: dangerous and we need to take every kind of stand 690 00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:59,719 Speaker 6: we can legally and patriotically in the formerly great United 691 00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:02,680 Speaker 6: States of America before I was utterly destroyed. 692 00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:06,960 Speaker 2: Very well, said sir. Thank you for calling in, and 693 00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:08,960 Speaker 2: I'll get some of your VIP emails the next hour. 694 00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:11,640 Speaker 2: I'll take more calls too, because it's not quite Friday, 695 00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:15,480 Speaker 2: but because it's almost holiday for me, feeling a little 696 00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:19,840 Speaker 2: bit little Friday like right now, I know it's Thursday, 697 00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:22,319 Speaker 2: don't worry. I haven't gotten the dates confused quite yet, 698 00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:24,280 Speaker 2: although that does happen to me occasionally on the show. 699 00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:27,240 Speaker 2: Talk to you about Harvard coming up here the President. 700 00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:29,200 Speaker 2: I just I think it's fascinating. It goes right to 701 00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:33,480 Speaker 2: the heart of the diversity, equity and inclusion narrative and 702 00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:36,359 Speaker 2: really the power structure that exists with it. Will also 703 00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:41,400 Speaker 2: return to Joe Biden saying that Donald Trump is an insurrectionist. 704 00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:45,719 Speaker 2: What is an insurrection? If January sixth was an insurrection, 705 00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:50,680 Speaker 2: what else was an insurrection? Right? Let's dive into this together, team, 706 00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:54,040 Speaker 2: stick around third hour it's going to be entertaining and informative.