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Speaker 1: Brandon expert Rashan McDonald. I will know he's given me

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Money Making Conversation. I am your host, Rashaan McDonald.

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Speaker 1: It's time to stop reading other people's success stories and

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Speaker 1: do on Money Making Conversations provide the consumer and business

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Speaker 1: next guest is an industry decision maker. He is a

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Speaker 1: His name is Kurt Franklin. He's a six time Grammy

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Speaker 1: to discuss something I'm excited to talking about his new podcast,

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Speaker 1: Good Words with Kurt Franklin, almost like good News, a

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Speaker 1: this day in February ninth, That's the date everybody where.

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Speaker 1: He's in conjunction with Sony Music Entertainment dropping Good Words

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Speaker 1: with Kurt Franklin on the podcast. Please work with the

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Speaker 1: money making conversation. He's my good friend. He's been in

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Speaker 1: my life man since ninety four. I'm from Houston, Texas.

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Speaker 1: He's up in that Dallas, Dallas area, Texas. Boy. Please

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Speaker 1: welcome Kurt Franklin. How dork, Kurt, How you're doing man? Well,

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Speaker 1: welcome to my new studio, Curry. I'm trying to do it, man,

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to step up. Man in my game. Man.

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Speaker 1: You know, man, you look good, brother, look good. You

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Speaker 1: Thank it. How you been doing? Man? You know we're

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Speaker 1: coming out of going into one. We're talking about new podcast.

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Speaker 1: But let's let's step back a little bit and talk

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Speaker 1: about because it sent me through a lot of changes,

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Speaker 1: emotional physical change that game weight, loss, weight, and anxiety.

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Speaker 1: It's about the COVID nineteen. My family and my wife.

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Speaker 1: your family and the people who follow you and seek

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Speaker 1: your guidance. Well, once again, man, so honored to see

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Speaker 1: I'm part of your congregation. I'm part of the Kirk

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Speaker 1: And I say that's a negative thing to the church goers. No, no, no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: Good works for the good Words with pot with Kurt Franklin.

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Speaker 1: That's right just on podcast platforms including the Apple, Spotify,

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Speaker 1: so Sears xm Uh. We're just the future of that show.

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00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:11,279
Speaker 1: I know. London Love is the is the cornerstone of

643
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:14,200
Speaker 1: Yo Yo and a Julie tell us about everybody about

644
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:19,040
Speaker 1: the Cafe Moke Radio platform for women of color only. Yes, yes,

645
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Speaker 1: Well when we started and thanks to you, one of

646
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:26,719
Speaker 1: the first big TV shows that we did and big

647
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 1: events that we did was the Hoodie Awards and we

648
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:33,360
Speaker 1: were so excited because we felt like that was in

649
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:36,960
Speaker 1: our second year. We just celebrated ten years by the way, um,

650
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 1: and you gave us that opportunity to kind of put

651
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:42,920
Speaker 1: us on in the spotlight. Um. You know, when I

652
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:45,919
Speaker 1: came up with the concept or Cafe Mocha, I did

653
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:48,280
Speaker 1: not want it to be named after any one woman.

654
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 1: It was about women coming together to empower one another.

655
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:55,839
Speaker 1: And it really became as a result of watching a

656
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Speaker 1: lot of what we were seeing on TV at the time,

657
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:01,239
Speaker 1: with some of the well of the shows that I

658
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:04,760
Speaker 1: just felt did not really depict who the full scope

659
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:08,760
Speaker 1: of who we are African American women. UM, so I decided,

660
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:12,319
Speaker 1: let's put together a show that represents us, that we

661
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:15,319
Speaker 1: can all work together to inspire one another, and the

662
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:18,480
Speaker 1: stories of the women on the show, and that the

663
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 1: women that we honor along the way in these ten

664
00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:24,600
Speaker 1: years will hopefully inspire other women. And that's really how

665
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:28,400
Speaker 1: the show came about. Um, and we just celebrated ten years.

666
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Speaker 1: We've got Lonnie Love who you know it's on the

667
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Speaker 1: rideo uh. And Lonnie is unique in that she's such

668
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:37,920
Speaker 1: a well with comedian, so she could go from having

669
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:42,680
Speaker 1: topical conversations to giving you that aha moment uh and

670
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 1: and and making you feel good. Um. And then we

671
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:47,879
Speaker 1: have Yo Yo who's out around the Way girl, who

672
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:51,919
Speaker 1: represents all the sisters that I have been there and

673
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:54,960
Speaker 1: are going through it and have made it through. Um.

674
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:57,399
Speaker 1: And she represents the West Coast of course. And then

675
00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:00,480
Speaker 1: we have Angelique Parent who is an amazing do ser

676
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:05,440
Speaker 1: and voice over character artist. UM. That is she just

677
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:08,760
Speaker 1: brings the show to live alive. I mean, I'm blessed

678
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 1: in that to have a concept and then be able

679
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:15,560
Speaker 1: to bond with three women that really bring that concept

680
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 1: to live, you know, it's that's not easy, and so

681
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:20,920
Speaker 1: I feel very blessed you know, have that and for

682
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Speaker 1: us to have been together for ten you know, for

683
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:27,239
Speaker 1: ten years. So, um, where are we going from here? Well,

684
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:30,799
Speaker 1: quite honestly, we'd like to take the concept to television

685
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:36,239
Speaker 1: or streaming, So that's kind of where we had it. Uh, yes,

686
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:40,239
Speaker 1: So that's where we're looking to navigate, and especially now

687
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:45,680
Speaker 1: given the streaming platform has come so full circle. Um,

688
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:48,319
Speaker 1: you know with the pandemic. Um, that's really kind of

689
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:50,680
Speaker 1: where we're headed. And you know, we feel like with

690
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:54,759
Speaker 1: the local podcast network and then our syndication, we can

691
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:57,920
Speaker 1: offer a full range for um, you know, for our

692
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Speaker 1: listeners and for our advertisers. Yeah, before we get to

693
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Speaker 1: the podcast network, I want to talk about the Sleut

694
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Speaker 1: Awards because you and I were talking last year about

695
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Speaker 1: producing some of these lives because before the pandemic hit,

696
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 1: and then also we kept pushing days and pushing days,

697
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:16,239
Speaker 1: we realized the pandemic is not going anywhere and the

698
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:19,319
Speaker 1: ability to do live events are gonna go away, and

699
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Speaker 1: so now you have to Sleuth awards their virtual I'm

700
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Speaker 1: assuming that you have three of them coming up, correct, Yes, Yeah,

701
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Speaker 1: the Saluna what they are virtual Salute Her Awards as

702
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:31,440
Speaker 1: where we are the women because the Cafe Mocha is

703
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:35,240
Speaker 1: called radio from a woman's perspective, So we want to

704
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:40,320
Speaker 1: put the spotlight on women from celebrities to uh, women

705
00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:45,480
Speaker 1: who don't know all working in service to support the community. UM.

706
00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:49,160
Speaker 1: So that's the Salute Her Awards and that's coming up.

707
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Speaker 1: The next one is for Women's History mom UM in March.

708
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Speaker 1: March the first in March sixteen, and then in June

709
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Speaker 1: we're going to go back to Salute them and we're

710
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:05,879
Speaker 1: gonna celebrate Black music and so we will do Salute Them. UM.

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Speaker 1: One of the things that came about, and this is

712
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Speaker 1: thanks to someone that we know, Rashan McDonald, UM, is

713
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Speaker 1: that we needed to do more to honor the full

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Speaker 1: spectrum of our community and we didn't want to alienate men.

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Speaker 1: And so as a result, we decided that if we

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Speaker 1: did salute them, then we are honoring women, men and

717
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:33,960
Speaker 1: organizations that all have a common goal of serving the community. UM.

718
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Speaker 1: And so the Salute Them Awards will be a jew

719
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Speaker 1: and then we're going back in September where we're doing

720
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Speaker 1: in conjunction with a Congressional Black concuss and that will

721
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Speaker 1: be the Salute Her Award. So we kind of go

722
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:48,239
Speaker 1: back and forth, but the common denominator is that we

723
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:52,960
Speaker 1: are saluting and paying tribute to people organizations that are

724
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Speaker 1: making a difference in our culture and in our community.

725
00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:58,920
Speaker 1: I know you are a lot of marketing and event

726
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:02,840
Speaker 1: production for the Essence platform, in particular Essence Music Festival,

727
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:07,400
Speaker 1: Essence Festival Apologize last year was canceled, actually was pushed

728
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Speaker 1: a little bit, and then they realized that because of

729
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:13,319
Speaker 1: the pandemic, is we should aboid it all together. Any

730
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Speaker 1: word yet has been announced that's gonna come back in

731
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Speaker 1: New Orleans in the summertime, or doing the fourth of

732
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:22,240
Speaker 1: July weekend, or that's still on hold. That's still on hold.

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Speaker 1: I think a lot is going to be determined based

734
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Speaker 1: on the first quarter you wanted this year, um, and

735
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 1: how New Orleans and how Louisiana develops. Um. But right

736
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Speaker 1: now I would venture to say it will probably be

737
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Speaker 1: virtual again, but um it growing to half people, that's

738
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Speaker 1: a lot. And then and then on that multi day

739
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Speaker 1: event on fourth it was like a write of passage

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Speaker 1: A lot of times. I know, you go down there, girl,

741
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Speaker 1: you've been the Essence, Come on down let's go with

742
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Speaker 1: two black experience and a lot of people don't know

743
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Speaker 1: it had a diverse draws. Well, it wasn't always on

744
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:05,040
Speaker 1: African Americans that attended the Essence Festival. It was really

745
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:07,600
Speaker 1: diverse in a lot of ways. Let's talk about the

746
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 1: whole virtual versus live event experience, because that's a different sale,

747
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:15,320
Speaker 1: that's a different approach. You can't count people. And actually,

748
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 1: in some way, when you go virtual, it becomes an

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Speaker 1: international event because it's not really tied to that particular

750
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Speaker 1: market or that particular city that you're doing the event,

751
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:26,799
Speaker 1: and just wear talking about people who listening to the show.

752
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:29,239
Speaker 1: This is money making conversation. What are some of the

753
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:31,560
Speaker 1: hoops you had to jump or something that changed you

754
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:35,520
Speaker 1: had to do your platform to encourage advertisers to experience

755
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:40,279
Speaker 1: the virtual platform versus traditional live event platforms. I have

756
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 1: to tell you that I am really um surprised and

757
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 1: happy that corporations have started to pivot you know with

758
00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:55,120
Speaker 1: the production um because we do events and I was

759
00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:57,880
Speaker 1: really concerned and some of our sponsors you know, had

760
00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:01,960
Speaker 1: a concern about going virtual, but they see the value

761
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:08,920
Speaker 1: now of reaching like far more people. UM, your social media,

762
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:13,919
Speaker 1: your digital all your promotions. UM. For them, it's it's

763
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:18,040
Speaker 1: broadening their brand, and it's it's even better than the

764
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:21,719
Speaker 1: actual events, the actual in person events. Because you know,

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Speaker 1: my plan is to go back to in person events

766
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Speaker 1: in two if that we can do that, but my

767
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:33,200
Speaker 1: sponsors like the virtual experience and are saying maybe you

768
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 1: should stay in this space and really grow this space.

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Speaker 1: And so that's what we're looking to do. We might

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Speaker 1: you know, we will probably go back and do some

771
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:42,480
Speaker 1: in person events. But I have to tell you that

772
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:48,000
Speaker 1: this virtual space is very intriguing because ultimately, like I said,

773
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 1: my goal is to go to television or to go

774
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:54,719
Speaker 1: to more you know, some of the streaming services um.

775
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:58,720
Speaker 1: And this has kind of escalated that process into moving

776
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 1: in that area. UM. So you gotta have a great

777
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 1: production team and learning production very fast um and and

778
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:09,920
Speaker 1: and a good editor um and you know in concepts

779
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:12,239
Speaker 1: and great writers. But you know that. I mean you

780
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:14,000
Speaker 1: were doing when you were ahead of the game on

781
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:17,200
Speaker 1: all of this. So um but we're all catching up.

782
00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 1: But yes, I like this virtual space. While I love

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Speaker 1: it because like I said, uh, you know, if you

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Speaker 1: do it been in Atlanta in the venue, if it's

785
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:28,560
Speaker 1: a thousand people or two thousand people that tend to

786
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:30,759
Speaker 1: do it. That's all who saw That's all who saw it.

787
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:34,319
Speaker 1: Where now when you go virtual, I my whole thing

788
00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:36,239
Speaker 1: because I was doing it with the neighborhood. I was

789
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:39,040
Speaker 1: streaming live and do the live event. So I was saying,

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00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:42,720
Speaker 1: do both, because you don't want to lose their international growth.

791
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:45,600
Speaker 1: It's it's it's fun to see the people in Australia

792
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:50,240
Speaker 1: or Spain, or South Africa or Degreement watching your brand

793
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:52,719
Speaker 1: grow and it has a it has a big plus there.

794
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:56,360
Speaker 1: So I would say keep both, keep growing your brand

795
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:59,880
Speaker 1: because you are an international brand and you've only been

796
00:45:59,880 --> 00:46:03,319
Speaker 1: a fit about being bigger. Well, I'm surprised at the

797
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:07,320
Speaker 1: people that are, you know, responding to us from other countries,

798
00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:11,040
Speaker 1: you know, especially in Africa, which is very interesting, you know.

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Speaker 1: And Ireland loves you too, by the way, just let

800
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:17,920
Speaker 1: you know that. Let's talk about my favorite. I've been

801
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:19,359
Speaker 1: waiting to talk about this because I want to talk

802
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:21,040
Speaker 1: about each one of these shows. I hope you know

803
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:23,200
Speaker 1: them all, because I want to talk about every last

804
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:27,319
Speaker 1: one your podcast, your podcast, because there has so many

805
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:30,000
Speaker 1: names on here and people that I know. But let's talk.

806
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:32,120
Speaker 1: Let's start with this one. They really caught my eye.

807
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:35,480
Speaker 1: The Funcky the Two. The two Funny Mom was hosted

808
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:37,120
Speaker 1: by a sheriff, Shephard and Kent Win, the two of

809
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:39,440
Speaker 1: my favorite people I know. They were doing it on

810
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:42,880
Speaker 1: the Tom join the show before he ended his syndication,

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00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:47,440
Speaker 1: so he just snapped him up. Yes, Well, they had started,

812
00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:52,480
Speaker 1: you know, doing the podcast, and they really needed well, first,

813
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:55,480
Speaker 1: what I found is that most people that have podcasts

814
00:46:55,840 --> 00:47:00,080
Speaker 1: having figured out how to monetize at number one and

815
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:03,560
Speaker 1: number two, how to really you know, put it into

816
00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:07,400
Speaker 1: a business and really develop it. Um. And so for

817
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:10,040
Speaker 1: Sherry and for Kim, who were you know, very busy

818
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:13,160
Speaker 1: with their other careers, and everything that we did was

819
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:15,640
Speaker 1: help them kind of put a structure to it and

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00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:19,279
Speaker 1: it has done extremely well. UM. And that's just an

821
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Speaker 1: extension of you know, they say, well, you know, black

822
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Speaker 1: women can't always work together, can't have too many women,

823
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Speaker 1: you know, But I don't subscribe to that because all

824
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Speaker 1: the women that I've worked with and worked with, UM,

825
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Speaker 1: we just make it work. You know, we kind of

826
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Speaker 1: fit in with what we have to do to make

827
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Speaker 1: it work. And um. And so they wanted to join

828
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Speaker 1: the podcast network is one of the lead podcasters. And

829
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Speaker 1: it's been great. I mean, it's it's you know, it's

830
00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:47,680
Speaker 1: been a great experience. We started out, we've already got

831
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Speaker 1: sponsors on board and you know, and they're excited and everything.

832
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:53,719
Speaker 1: So yes, those ladies and it's a funny podcast, but

833
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:57,280
Speaker 1: it's it's life. It's about you know. The podcast network

834
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Speaker 1: is really a lifestyle network for women and the color

835
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Speaker 1: um so and they bring that to you know, giving

836
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Speaker 1: their children in their careers and everything. Yeah. Yeah, both

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Speaker 1: of my single moms. That's so that's that we know,

838
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:13,239
Speaker 1: the population of single moms keep seems, unfortunately, seems to

839
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Speaker 1: be growing every year. And you're looking for guys, they're

840
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:18,560
Speaker 1: looking to be entertained. So it sells itself there. But

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Speaker 1: Kim is amazingly funny and I've known her all the

842
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:24,359
Speaker 1: way back to my Parenthood sitcom writing days. The same

843
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:26,560
Speaker 1: thing with Sherry Shepherd. I met her when I was

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Speaker 1: doing Jamie Fox as a as a co executive producer

845
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Speaker 1: of that show. But the podcast local podcast Network as

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Speaker 1: a platform bringing authentic voices and perspective of multicultural talent,

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Speaker 1: including entertainers. What you just said, Shepherd and the Sherry

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Speaker 1: Shepherd and Kemp Wiley journal ust experts with the following shows. Now,

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Speaker 1: I'm assuming that the Funky Divas podcast hosted by involved Now,

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Speaker 1: how did which invoked members do you have? Okay, we

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Speaker 1: have Terry Ella my good who yes who HBC year

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Speaker 1: by the way, and was HBCU too? Um? And then

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00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:09,200
Speaker 1: we have Cindy Hamon Braggs. And then we have Rona

854
00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:14,600
Speaker 1: Ben and you might know Rona from the Jamie Box Show. Um.

855
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:17,720
Speaker 1: And so they have been I mean they've been a trio.

856
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:19,400
Speaker 1: A lot of people don't know, but they've been a

857
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:23,440
Speaker 1: trio for almost seventeen years. You know is the newest member.

858
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:26,279
Speaker 1: But they're celebrating their thirties. They were selling last year.

859
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:30,520
Speaker 1: They celebrating your City cancers and um. The idea for

860
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:33,360
Speaker 1: the podcast. You know, I went to them and said, look,

861
00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:36,680
Speaker 1: you need to tell your story to stay together for

862
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:39,879
Speaker 1: thirty years and they've been through we know they've been

863
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:43,360
Speaker 1: through some change, they've been you know, experiences. You know,

864
00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:45,920
Speaker 1: you need to tell your story because other people need

865
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:47,640
Speaker 1: to hear that, and your fans need to hear that.

866
00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:50,279
Speaker 1: Another young groups need to hear that. Another females need

867
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:52,120
Speaker 1: to hear out. You have kind of stayed in year

868
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:55,080
Speaker 1: and gotten through this and so that's really what the

869
00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:57,960
Speaker 1: podcast is about. It was the celebration of their thirties

870
00:49:58,040 --> 00:50:01,880
Speaker 1: anniversary and it was so well need that. You know,

871
00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:06,000
Speaker 1: it's just now taken off, you know, weird um. They'll

872
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:08,080
Speaker 1: be doing every you know, we've been doing it once

873
00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:10,479
Speaker 1: a month. Now we're doing it every two weeks then

874
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:12,840
Speaker 1: just you know, and they're really getting into it and

875
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:16,960
Speaker 1: they're speaking from their perspective and very honestly from their perspective.

876
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:19,680
Speaker 1: So yeah, we called it the Funky Divas because that's

877
00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:22,399
Speaker 1: what in Vogue is known for as the Funky Well.

878
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:24,400
Speaker 1: I like it because when you start talking about singing

879
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:27,160
Speaker 1: group female singing groups, you know, it's the Supremes. To me,

880
00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:30,960
Speaker 1: it's in Vogue and then its Destiny's Child. Those are

881
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:34,520
Speaker 1: three you know that to me, a legendary that resonating.

882
00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:37,440
Speaker 1: So to have their voices not being solemn, and that's

883
00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:40,399
Speaker 1: what this podcast is all about, giving authentic voices. That's

884
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:42,720
Speaker 1: what you're talking about. People talking for a point of reference,

885
00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:46,359
Speaker 1: can give career advice, to give advice about the loads

886
00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:49,920
Speaker 1: of success when it does not happen and when you

887
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:52,480
Speaker 1: at the peak of the game, but more important, it's

888
00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:55,319
Speaker 1: the longevity. Thirty years. That's a long time. And I

889
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:57,680
Speaker 1: know these people. So you've got a lot of HBCU people.

890
00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:01,080
Speaker 1: Not forget that Loney Love is a reviewer and m

891
00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:04,520
Speaker 1: HBCU people. I think, uh kim with it from Fisk

892
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:09,560
Speaker 1: Him Fisk, Tennessee, Tennessee. Yeah, I kind of stop press.

893
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:11,120
Speaker 1: I'll tell you, I know all these people. You got

894
00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:13,279
Speaker 1: to show which I love. I love. Now. Now let's

895
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:16,600
Speaker 1: go back to my girl, the Vegans Sexy Cool podcast

896
00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:20,120
Speaker 1: hosted by Jackie Reid. How did you get Jackie Radio?

897
00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:25,880
Speaker 1: You know, I did not realize that there were so

898
00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:30,279
Speaker 1: many African Americans and black folks that are dingy and um.

899
00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:33,600
Speaker 1: When I talked to Jackie and she told me kind

900
00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:36,000
Speaker 1: of how she came up with the idea. She lost

901
00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:39,600
Speaker 1: the dog, her dog pads, and I think, if you know,

902
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:42,600
Speaker 1: what she realized is how important it is what you

903
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:45,360
Speaker 1: feed and what you put in your body. And she

904
00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:48,120
Speaker 1: said that she just kind of went on that journey

905
00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:53,400
Speaker 1: in veganism and now she's in it. Um and I'm surprised.

906
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:56,520
Speaker 1: She gave me a recipe for some greens that had

907
00:51:57,000 --> 00:51:58,799
Speaker 1: don't meet at all. And when I tell you those

908
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:03,960
Speaker 1: greens good. So she is. She has her podcast and

909
00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:06,759
Speaker 1: we're excited about that, and um, we're going to be

910
00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:10,560
Speaker 1: doing a she's going to be doing a series panel

911
00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:14,359
Speaker 1: discussions with African Americans. You know, in addition that are

912
00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:18,120
Speaker 1: celebrities that are vegans and understanding that it's a difference

913
00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:21,759
Speaker 1: between the vegetarian and a vegan. I didn't realize that. So, um,

914
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:25,160
Speaker 1: it's it's an exciting of course. You know. Jackie is um,

915
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:29,040
Speaker 1: you know, just a journalist, a great journalist. So she

916
00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:32,200
Speaker 1: brings a lot of new information, you know, to the podcast.

917
00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:34,880
Speaker 1: Now one of my favorite people you have as brash

918
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:39,600
Speaker 1: and shaw. Uh superpower, my girl. Tell me how that

919
00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:43,759
Speaker 1: relationship was created because I interviewed her recently on Monimating Conversation.

920
00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:47,239
Speaker 1: She's an inspiration to me personally and to have on

921
00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:50,760
Speaker 1: the show, motivating people and tell them there is tomorrow.

922
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:52,640
Speaker 1: When people tell you that isn't it? That might not

923
00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:55,719
Speaker 1: be a tomorrow? I think to me. For she represents

924
00:52:55,760 --> 00:52:59,080
Speaker 1: on your network, is amazing. Talk about that relationship. Yeah,

925
00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:01,840
Speaker 1: she she came. Actually I didn't really know her. I

926
00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:05,640
Speaker 1: knew of her. One of our affiliates w BLS and

927
00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:08,680
Speaker 1: New York he told her, you need to connect with

928
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:11,800
Speaker 1: she or Elbridge, and he told me we needed to connect,

929
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:14,120
Speaker 1: and she and I just connected and it was like

930
00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:17,520
Speaker 1: we know one another for years, you know, um, and

931
00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:20,640
Speaker 1: that's kind of how we connect. It was through a

932
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:24,600
Speaker 1: radio one of my radio affiliates. And she's she's amazing.

933
00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:28,120
Speaker 1: I mean, she she's she's a duo. I mean she

934
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:31,239
Speaker 1: just goes and gets it done and she can just

935
00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:35,880
Speaker 1: inspire people. So she's very very and she's very special.

936
00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:39,600
Speaker 1: So you know, she's a cancer survivor and she's a

937
00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:44,360
Speaker 1: superwoman four times cancer survivor. And so when somebody's delivered

938
00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:46,400
Speaker 1: that that information to you that many times and you

939
00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:49,279
Speaker 1: still is upbeat as she is, it's still forward thinking.

940
00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:52,560
Speaker 1: This she is. That podcast is as as a definitely

941
00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:56,040
Speaker 1: listen to because it's not about, uh, the fact that

942
00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:58,520
Speaker 1: she's a cancervivor. She's letting you know that when people

943
00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:01,719
Speaker 1: give you direct, you know, addic messages of information that

944
00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:05,040
Speaker 1: you feel may not allow you to have the life

945
00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:07,440
Speaker 1: that you want to have, what do you do? And

946
00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:11,520
Speaker 1: she her messages keep going, keep playing, keep living your dream,

947
00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:14,440
Speaker 1: and keep accelerating to the next page of success. That's

948
00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:17,880
Speaker 1: why I love and I love the diversity of when

949
00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:21,080
Speaker 1: when I'm looking together Vegan host, you got miss Shaw

950
00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:24,680
Speaker 1: and then Dea Direct. I haven't heard Dea. She still

951
00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:27,040
Speaker 1: based out of the Dallas Yep, she still based out

952
00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:31,959
Speaker 1: of Dallage. And she's you know, she's dealing with mental health,

953
00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:36,200
Speaker 1: dealing with relationships. Uh and and and mental and mental

954
00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:40,560
Speaker 1: health and mentopause. Okay, she said, can I talk about

955
00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:45,160
Speaker 1: I said, yes, that's this network is a lifestyle network

956
00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:50,800
Speaker 1: and I of women going through metapalls. So we conversation definitely.

957
00:54:51,360 --> 00:54:54,600
Speaker 1: So you know Dea, Um, you know she is very

958
00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:59,640
Speaker 1: direct and we excited, uh you know with her podcast.

959
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:03,879
Speaker 1: But you're right, um, the goal is that you all

960
00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:07,800
Speaker 1: the podcasts are being curated, so we our philosophy is

961
00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:12,200
Speaker 1: it's more equality versus quantity on the network and that

962
00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:15,319
Speaker 1: you can come to this network, um in a week

963
00:55:15,640 --> 00:55:18,959
Speaker 1: and listen to the different podcasts and get a full

964
00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:22,239
Speaker 1: you get some laughter, you know. I mean whenever a

965
00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:26,279
Speaker 1: person here's the word cancer, you get you're nervous, you know,

966
00:55:26,680 --> 00:55:28,680
Speaker 1: so you're gonna Shawn you can listen and then help

967
00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:32,280
Speaker 1: you through that. And then if you're going through relationships,

968
00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:34,120
Speaker 1: you know, and then if you're not sure about. I

969
00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:36,800
Speaker 1: want people to bere to come and listen to the

970
00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:40,040
Speaker 1: different podcasts and be able to have a nice, full

971
00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:43,719
Speaker 1: experience and leave, you know, saying Okay, I'm good. You know,

972
00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:45,960
Speaker 1: I've got inspired. I can make it, and I'll be

973
00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:49,520
Speaker 1: back next week. That's really the the purpose of what

974
00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:52,080
Speaker 1: we're trying to do. I'm gonta tell you something. You know.

975
00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:56,480
Speaker 1: You know, I'm a big fan your top fans in

976
00:55:56,520 --> 00:55:59,239
Speaker 1: this business. I always tell you you're amazing. You know

977
00:55:59,239 --> 00:56:05,960
Speaker 1: what I mentor you are a real mental and you

978
00:56:06,040 --> 00:56:08,480
Speaker 1: have been so straight with me, you know, and honest

979
00:56:08,560 --> 00:56:11,040
Speaker 1: with me. You know, because you're you're you're your unique talent.

980
00:56:11,080 --> 00:56:13,240
Speaker 1: When I look at all this, I'm talking about these careers,

981
00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:14,719
Speaker 1: you know, because you have our herd. You have a

982
00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:17,719
Speaker 1: lot of podcast platforms out there, and it's a very

983
00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:20,920
Speaker 1: competitive medium, and these people are trusting your brain. That's

984
00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:23,240
Speaker 1: what I've always told you that you know you're special

985
00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:26,080
Speaker 1: from a standpoint, You've created a voice, a channel, and

986
00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:28,719
Speaker 1: then to build this out like this seems like the

987
00:56:28,840 --> 00:56:32,400
Speaker 1: sky is unlimited for you in this podcast or genre,

988
00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:35,880
Speaker 1: especially when you're talking about women of color will need

989
00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:38,720
Speaker 1: a voice. Sometimes you don't get that on local radio anymore.

990
00:56:39,160 --> 00:56:41,839
Speaker 1: You definitely don't get it on streaming platforms and things

991
00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:46,239
Speaker 1: like that. So what what Lanes, I forgot my girl

992
00:56:46,560 --> 00:56:50,680
Speaker 1: Rlanda watch? How How could I forgive her? Landa Watts?

993
00:56:51,560 --> 00:56:55,080
Speaker 1: You know, that is one of my favorite people. I

994
00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:57,680
Speaker 1: can't believe. I'm so happy you got on this platform.

995
00:56:57,760 --> 00:57:02,640
Speaker 1: Rlanda Watts. Yeah something. You know, She's another one that

996
00:57:02,680 --> 00:57:04,360
Speaker 1: I've known for a long time from you know, a

997
00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:08,359
Speaker 1: TV show and just you know, various acting and things

998
00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:10,880
Speaker 1: that she's done. Um. And so when I approached her,

999
00:57:11,239 --> 00:57:13,120
Speaker 1: I was like, well, you know, look, you can't her

1000
00:57:13,239 --> 00:57:16,840
Speaker 1: dank Okay, you know, I was really She said, you know,

1001
00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:19,520
Speaker 1: I like this. I can see what you're trying. Yes,

1002
00:57:19,800 --> 00:57:22,920
Speaker 1: I want to be on this platform. Yes, I like this. Um.

1003
00:57:23,120 --> 00:57:25,880
Speaker 1: And so she came on board. I was nervous, you know,

1004
00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:28,480
Speaker 1: becausehen I went to these women, like you said, it's

1005
00:57:28,520 --> 00:57:31,640
Speaker 1: pretty competitive out there. UM, but we're that's the reason

1006
00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:37,160
Speaker 1: why we're niche you know. I I'm about um empowering women.

1007
00:57:37,240 --> 00:57:40,680
Speaker 1: I like being in the background. UM. I like started.

1008
00:57:40,720 --> 00:57:45,000
Speaker 1: I like startups and growing businesses and growing platforms, UM

1009
00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:50,480
Speaker 1: and empowering women. That's our platform, and so I just

1010
00:57:50,640 --> 00:57:53,640
Speaker 1: stayed with what we do and who we are in

1011
00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:56,440
Speaker 1: our lane and we just keep driving through. And we

1012
00:57:56,600 --> 00:58:00,840
Speaker 1: have a nice group of advertisers now that we've developed

1013
00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:04,040
Speaker 1: over the last ten years that they're with us. They've

1014
00:58:04,080 --> 00:58:07,640
Speaker 1: seen the results and they take the chance with us.

1015
00:58:07,840 --> 00:58:10,800
Speaker 1: And so that's what's unique about this network too, is

1016
00:58:10,840 --> 00:58:13,600
Speaker 1: that we're you know, we're starting out with advertisers that

1017
00:58:13,680 --> 00:58:16,640
Speaker 1: are supporting as well my virtue of the relationship that

1018
00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:19,400
Speaker 1: we had in syndication for the last teen years. So

1019
00:58:19,560 --> 00:58:22,920
Speaker 1: I'm excited about that. Um. But yeah, Lelanda was just

1020
00:58:23,040 --> 00:58:26,200
Speaker 1: like I'm I'm on it so so so that you

1021
00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:29,480
Speaker 1: can see how it's a nice rounding out. Oh it's awesome.

1022
00:58:29,680 --> 00:58:31,200
Speaker 1: Like I said, I've been I looked up and go,

1023
00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:34,280
Speaker 1: I can't believe I forgot Rolanda watch. That is because

1024
00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:38,560
Speaker 1: all these people I love, Mischawe, dear Direct, Jackie Reid,

1025
00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:41,800
Speaker 1: you got my boy to be Lifted with Alfred Evan

1026
00:58:41,880 --> 00:58:44,800
Speaker 1: and d C. Marshall, Landa Watts who one of my

1027
00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:48,400
Speaker 1: DearS friends in Vogue that oh my goodness, Sherif scheferd

1028
00:58:48,440 --> 00:58:51,160
Speaker 1: King Willie, and then you got the traditional Cafe Mocal

1029
00:58:51,240 --> 00:58:54,560
Speaker 1: Radio is also on your podcast platform with London Love

1030
00:58:54,640 --> 00:58:58,920
Speaker 1: Yo Yo and Angela. Correct correct, correct, Because it's so much,

1031
00:58:59,040 --> 00:59:02,040
Speaker 1: you know with radio to restore radio, the brakes have

1032
00:59:02,200 --> 00:59:04,720
Speaker 1: to be so short and there's so much it gets

1033
00:59:04,840 --> 00:59:09,840
Speaker 1: cut and that's great conversation that can go into the podcast.

1034
00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:12,120
Speaker 1: So we say what you don't hear on the radio,

1035
00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:16,480
Speaker 1: you can go to the podcast and get them. Now

1036
00:59:16,760 --> 00:59:18,440
Speaker 1: before I go, I want to talk about this this

1037
00:59:18,840 --> 00:59:23,160
Speaker 1: Cafe virtual digital series. What exactly this first time I've

1038
00:59:23,160 --> 00:59:24,520
Speaker 1: heard that. I always try to be in the loop,

1039
00:59:24,920 --> 00:59:27,560
Speaker 1: which you and now you create a new digital series

1040
00:59:27,680 --> 00:59:30,040
Speaker 1: or the Cafe Moka to the goal, salute her soul

1041
00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:33,640
Speaker 1: sessions and she boutique. What exactly is all that? Well?

1042
00:59:33,840 --> 00:59:38,160
Speaker 1: The you know, because with the whole pandemic, I found

1043
00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:40,880
Speaker 1: that more people honestly were on the digital on the

1044
00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:45,000
Speaker 1: platforms Facebook and on social media platforms. And you know,

1045
00:59:45,400 --> 00:59:48,680
Speaker 1: the talent for the radio show is talent bats they

1046
00:59:48,760 --> 00:59:53,160
Speaker 1: have other you know, TV and careers and so they

1047
00:59:53,280 --> 00:59:56,040
Speaker 1: stay true to the radio show. UM. But what we

1048
00:59:56,240 --> 00:59:59,840
Speaker 1: decided to do was is to take a topical calm

1049
01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:03,439
Speaker 1: stations UM and have a host that's been a long

1050
01:00:03,520 --> 01:00:06,320
Speaker 1: host with us as an ambassador Vanessa James. A lot

1051
01:00:06,400 --> 01:00:08,680
Speaker 1: of people don't know she's out of Miami HUD and

1052
01:00:08,760 --> 01:00:11,360
Speaker 1: social media ambassador. She's been with us for a while

1053
01:00:11,840 --> 01:00:15,520
Speaker 1: and let Vanessa host a it's a little ten minute

1054
01:00:15,520 --> 01:00:18,600
Speaker 1: segment show that's on Facebook called Cafe Moka to Go

1055
01:00:19,080 --> 01:00:22,280
Speaker 1: and it's what's trending, is what people are talking about.

1056
01:00:23,000 --> 01:00:25,640
Speaker 1: It might be you know, certain subjects. We did a

1057
01:00:25,720 --> 01:00:28,560
Speaker 1: lot obviously when you know the voting season, um. And

1058
01:00:28,640 --> 01:00:31,440
Speaker 1: it's hosted by Vanessa James, and so it's a it's

1059
01:00:31,440 --> 01:00:34,760
Speaker 1: an extension of the Cafe Moka brand, but it's a

1060
01:00:34,840 --> 01:00:36,760
Speaker 1: quick little catch that you can get all the little

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Speaker 1: news and everything from our perspective, from a woman's perspective

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Speaker 1: and Cafe Moka perspective. So you know, we're growing our brand. UM.

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Speaker 1: You know it's gotta be I say, we have to

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Speaker 1: is Vanessa with Cafe Moka to Go. And then when

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Speaker 1: we moved into the virtual space was salute her. So

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Speaker 1: many people responded and said, well, who also have you honored?

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Speaker 1: And you know, I want to know more about you know,

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Speaker 1: how how can a person get nominated to be honored?

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Speaker 1: And so what we decided to do will start Soul Sessions.

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Speaker 1: And the Soul Sessions is on Facebook and it's hosted

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Speaker 1: by one of our past Honor Reads suirl Forlott Williamson,

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Speaker 1: who is an amazing speaker UM and so she interviews

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Speaker 1: has salute her on the Reads because when we would

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Speaker 1: doing events over the last ten years, people didn't know

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Speaker 1: a lot about Honor Reads. So this way we're able

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Speaker 1: to feature some of our past on the Reads. So

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Speaker 1: that's what the Soul Sessions are. They are conversations from

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Speaker 1: the heart on how women have kind of you know,

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Speaker 1: UM forge through life UM and and and their story.

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Speaker 1: Everyone's a story, like you said, in their story, hoping

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Speaker 1: we will inspire someone else. And then we have our

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Speaker 1: you know, I love John Murray. UM. We have the Captive.

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Speaker 1: We have the Sheep Boutique and that is a show

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Speaker 1: where we feature UM small businesses and not just female

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Speaker 1: and small business, but you know unique one of the

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Speaker 1: could only get on these you know, these little boutiques.

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Speaker 1: And so that is a we just launched that in

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Speaker 1: November and that will run straight through next year and

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Speaker 1: that's hosted by John Mary. So that's it. We're just

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Speaker 1: creating a little Bigs and that's a thirty minute show

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Speaker 1: where we're featuring small businesses. Well, my friend, uh, we

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Speaker 1: it's only gonna get busier for you because you're one

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Speaker 1: the brand of what you've developed with Miles Ahead Entertainment

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Speaker 1: and Broadcasting. Again, thank you for coming on the show. Uh,

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Speaker 1: make sure I get all my social media calls so

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Speaker 1: I can promote your events. You know, I support you

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Speaker 1: at all with different lanes because you're special and I'm

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Speaker 1: always be a big friendly with the Swag Awards. Huh

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Speaker 1: can we talk about the Swag Award? Well, you know

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Speaker 1: we went on the Piece of Player, but I didn't

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Speaker 1: know you know, you know I talked about Swag. Well, stop,

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Speaker 1: that's my show. That's my show. Come. One thing that

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Speaker 1: you have taught me is collaboration. Collaborations are to grow

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Speaker 1: your brands. And so I'm proud that we're now gonna

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Speaker 1: go into our second year of our collaboration on the

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Speaker 1: Swag Awards, and the Swag Awards is where you know

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Speaker 1: we aren a men uh and so, and it's hosted

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Speaker 1: of course with money making conversations that hosted about you.

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Speaker 1: So I just want to thank you for that. And

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Speaker 1: we've got some big ideas that will be coming as

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Speaker 1: we look to grow, you know, our Swag Awards and everything.

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Speaker 1: But thank you for being a mentor. Thank you for

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Speaker 1: all you do to promote small businesses and HBCUs um.

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Speaker 1: But we're excited and thank you, you know, just hanging

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Speaker 1: in there with us and giving you know, Cafe Mocha

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Speaker 1: gonna tell you something. I wasn't gonna bring up the

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Speaker 1: Swag Award, you know, I'm would deliver those every week

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Speaker 1: you know, and uh magic on those seven point five

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Speaker 1: I run commercials during that time slot to promote my

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Speaker 1: and and I respect what you do and I will

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Speaker 1: continue to deliver the Swag Awards. And as you say,

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Speaker 1: we want to promote that wether celebrities and well known entrepreneurs.

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Speaker 1: So I appreciate you and thank you for let me

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Speaker 1: It's a priority for me and my staff the Swag

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Speaker 1: Awards because more and more black men need to be

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Speaker 1: But of course I represent for all your platforms, So

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Speaker 1: thank you very much. Again, thank you, thank you, and

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Speaker 1: Welcome out. My next guest is a well known athlete.

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Speaker 1: Let's gop an athlete, because sometimes when you an athlete,

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Speaker 1: people will just keep you over there. His name is

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Speaker 1: Sheldon Williams, the former NBA lottery pick and Duke University

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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame player. Were discussing his career from Oklahoma

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Speaker 1: City to the NBA. In between all that was a

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Speaker 1: little unknown school called Duke University, his life after basketball,

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Speaker 1: and how he inspires to give back to the community.

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Speaker 1: That's really why I wanted on this show. We have

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Speaker 1: a lot of things by athletes, and we only hear

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Speaker 1: one side of the story. The Sheldon Williams Sundation is

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Speaker 1: dedicated to empowering student athletes and their families by delivering

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Speaker 1: and supporting initiatives that provide emotional and physical health through sports,

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Speaker 1: education and community involvement. Please welcome to Money Making Conversation.

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Speaker 1: For the very first time, the athlete shell do Williams,

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Speaker 1: How I'm good over there? Thanks for having me on,

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Speaker 1: and I emphasized athlete because somehow along the way, you

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Speaker 1: guys get diminished, You get diminished on your ability to communicate,

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Speaker 1: your diminished on your education abilities, your articulation. How do

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Speaker 1: you how do you overcome the athlete stereotype as you

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Speaker 1: move forward in life? Shelter, Well, it's interesting that you

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Speaker 1: asked that. I mean, until Laurn was probably smiler the

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Speaker 1: most forefront athlete that sit there and say, don't put

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Speaker 1: us in the box. Make sure that we know we're

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Speaker 1: more than what we do, whether he playing football, jamal basketball,

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Speaker 1: but more than that. And I think that was the

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Speaker 1: first time that actually like said it out loud. I

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Speaker 1: guess made it more of a worldly thing. But before

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Speaker 1: then he was always kept in the box like all right,

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Speaker 1: this is what you do and it's pretty much it.

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Speaker 1: So a lot of people now are kind of bringing

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Speaker 1: themselves on the main screen, like, hey, this is what

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Speaker 1: I used to get to this point, but overall me,

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Speaker 1: this is X, Y and Z, and I try to

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Speaker 1: use my social platform to let people know this is

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Speaker 1: what I do and not just what I did in

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Speaker 1: the past or what you know me. As this is

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Speaker 1: all me. I i'mould share you a little piece of

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Speaker 1: my life, Sheldon, because you know, I a sitcom writer,

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Speaker 1: stand up comedian, did deaf Jam and all of that,

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Speaker 1: and one of the bigger components in my life was

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Speaker 1: I managed Steve Harvey. And I bring that up because

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Speaker 1: of the fact that, you know, we had a ride

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Speaker 1: together like sixteen years and you know when image together,

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Speaker 1: image awards together, and box office movies, family feud, hit books,

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Speaker 1: and when I walked away and started to develop my

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Speaker 1: own career, I kind of was still trapped into that world.

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Speaker 1: And so I bring that up because as an NBA

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Speaker 1: lottery pick and at the highest level that an athlete

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Speaker 1: that can perform, and that is as a basketball player

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Speaker 1: you want to make an NBA how were you able

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Speaker 1: to make that transition because a lot of people kept

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Speaker 1: you in that bottle of being an NBA player or

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Speaker 1: what's going wrong? Why are you not still playing in

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Speaker 1: the NBA? Talk to us? Do that that that that

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Speaker 1: emotional release of trying to build your brand, the Sheldon

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Speaker 1: Weaves brand. Well, that's always kind of a I wouldn't

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Speaker 1: say difficult path, it's just it's it's a path that

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Speaker 1: you haven't done because you've been all your life been

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Speaker 1: trying to be this acthwde that you inspire to be.

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Speaker 1: Whether you looked up to Michael Jordan or any other

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Speaker 1: guys that play in your your your your position, or

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Speaker 1: your sport. You expire to be those guys. And then

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Speaker 1: once that timeline is pretty much ended, it's like, okay,

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Speaker 1: what do I do now? So hopefully within that one

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Speaker 1: or two years before it does actually in you kind

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Speaker 1: of started thinking about my next move, my next plan.

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Speaker 1: It's always hard because you always think that this is

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Speaker 1: what's gonna be for a lot of number of years,

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Speaker 1: and it's not always like that. So for me, when

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Speaker 1: I actually started to think about retiring, I wind up

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Speaker 1: and say, hey, this is what I want to do.

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Speaker 1: I want to go ahead and do something that one

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Speaker 1: keeps me active with my daughter who's now eleven, as

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Speaker 1: well as keep me within the game of basketball. And

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Speaker 1: I was able to unfortunate enough to actually be a

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Speaker 1: scout for the Brooklyn Nets on the West Coast. I

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Speaker 1: did that about three years before I said I want

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Speaker 1: to trap my hand into coaching, you know, be more

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Speaker 1: hands on than actually you know, kind of be in

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Speaker 1: the back front office type. Well, you know, the death

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Speaker 1: of Kobe Um you know, it was still the shocking

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Speaker 1: that way. I remember I went to l A after

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Speaker 1: his death, and uh it was like ghost town. Man,

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Speaker 1: I've never seen l A, which is like Party Central,

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Speaker 1: which is like Glitt, which is Glamor, which is uh

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Speaker 1: as they say, Hollywood. And then you mentioned your daughter,

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Speaker 1: you know, Daddy's girl. You know, I have a single

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Speaker 1: I'm a father and I have a daughter, so you

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Speaker 1: know the importance of that role that you play and

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Speaker 1: and guy and I remember, I all, I'm always available

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Speaker 1: for her to have a comment. And then you see

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Speaker 1: what happens to Kobe and that that whole daddy Gore

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Speaker 1: syndrome got Did you get caught up in there? Did

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Speaker 1: you realize your role that you have and with your

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Speaker 1: daughter who's loving now? Well, I got caught up in

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Speaker 1: it because one my daughter was actually doing things with

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Speaker 1: uh G J seam on the team and meet J

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Speaker 1: team at the Mamba Academy, so she was familiar with

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Speaker 1: both of those you know people, So that happened it

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Speaker 1: kind of hit a little bit closer. I mean, obviously

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01:12:51,760 --> 01:12:55,920
Speaker 1: was sad for anybody to go down like that, whether

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Speaker 1: it be a main well named person or just anybody.

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Speaker 1: But what really hit me was the girls that were

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Speaker 1: around my my daughter's age not able to actually live

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01:13:07,479 --> 01:13:11,720
Speaker 1: their life and got cut short. And talking to her

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Speaker 1: about it, it really hit home for me. I'm like, dang,

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01:13:14,720 --> 01:13:18,400
Speaker 1: Like literally, these are somebody that you was actually an

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01:13:18,400 --> 01:13:23,000
Speaker 1: academy my mama charity, practicing with, practice against and now

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01:13:23,040 --> 01:13:26,240
Speaker 1: all of a sudden they're gone. And it's very sad

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01:13:26,320 --> 01:13:28,560
Speaker 1: for that to happen. But that right there kind of

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01:13:28,640 --> 01:13:31,479
Speaker 1: hit closer to home to me because of the little

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01:13:31,520 --> 01:13:33,639
Speaker 1: girls that were running my my daughter's age was actually

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Speaker 1: round my daughter as well, you know, my bringing my

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Speaker 1: daughter because she was a professional athlete. You know, she

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01:13:39,000 --> 01:13:42,120
Speaker 1: was a tennis prodigy, you know, so she was home

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01:13:42,240 --> 01:13:46,439
Speaker 1: schooled and she played on the Tenants Tour, Professional Tendance

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01:13:46,479 --> 01:13:49,400
Speaker 1: Tour and then she blew out her knee and and

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01:13:49,600 --> 01:13:51,559
Speaker 1: when she blow I always remembered like the week before

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01:13:51,640 --> 01:13:54,680
Speaker 1: Thanksgiving and she asked me, she said, Dad, what do

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01:13:54,720 --> 01:13:57,519
Speaker 1: you She Dad? Can I Can I do something else?

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01:13:58,320 --> 01:13:59,479
Speaker 1: And I said, what you wanna do? She said, I

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01:13:59,520 --> 01:14:02,839
Speaker 1: want to go to college. And you've been an athlete,

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Speaker 1: and you know you just as a gifted athlete, you know,

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Speaker 1: a smart guy from Oklahoma City like you said, you

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01:14:09,880 --> 01:14:13,040
Speaker 1: went from university diversity. Do you feel that you were

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01:14:13,080 --> 01:14:15,920
Speaker 1: ever pushed along or did anybody ever stop and ask

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01:14:16,000 --> 01:14:18,560
Speaker 1: Shelton what he wanted in the early years or you

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01:14:18,760 --> 01:14:21,200
Speaker 1: just positioned to be this great athlete and you had

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01:14:21,280 --> 01:14:27,559
Speaker 1: no other option. Well, growing up, my dad he played basketball,

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01:14:27,600 --> 01:14:29,640
Speaker 1: he played in college as well, But for me and

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01:14:29,720 --> 01:14:31,920
Speaker 1: my younger brother, he didn't want us to follow in

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01:14:32,000 --> 01:14:35,439
Speaker 1: his footsteps. It wanted to kind of find our own path, right,

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01:14:35,720 --> 01:14:39,080
Speaker 1: granted my dad's six eight, my mom is to five eleven,

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01:14:39,400 --> 01:14:44,519
Speaker 1: right to be in our feature. So, um, I went

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01:14:44,640 --> 01:14:49,599
Speaker 1: from playing baseball, soccer and footballers. Oklahoma is a big

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01:14:49,640 --> 01:14:53,560
Speaker 1: football state, absolutely, and what's that as an Absolutely? You

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01:14:53,640 --> 01:14:56,439
Speaker 1: come Oklahoma City, Come on that, Oklhoba, come on that, right?

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01:14:56,600 --> 01:15:00,799
Speaker 1: And then I went into basketball, basket all in football

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01:15:01,320 --> 01:15:04,080
Speaker 1: all of until my present year. And where I got

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01:15:04,160 --> 01:15:05,680
Speaker 1: moved up to the high school team is back home.

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01:15:06,200 --> 01:15:09,280
Speaker 1: Ninth grade was still junior high. So I was able

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01:15:09,280 --> 01:15:12,479
Speaker 1: to do both those things. But honestly, with my dad,

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01:15:12,960 --> 01:15:14,760
Speaker 1: he wanted us to find our own path. And once

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01:15:14,840 --> 01:15:17,280
Speaker 1: we actually found our own path, he was all right,

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01:15:17,360 --> 01:15:19,760
Speaker 1: this is what you wanna do. Are you sure all right?

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01:15:19,800 --> 01:15:21,400
Speaker 1: Are right, if you're gonna do this, then this is

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01:15:21,439 --> 01:15:22,920
Speaker 1: what we need to do to get better every year.

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01:15:23,240 --> 01:15:25,280
Speaker 1: And he kind of laid out guidelines for me and

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01:15:25,360 --> 01:15:28,080
Speaker 1: my younger brother to follow if you want to be

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01:15:28,160 --> 01:15:30,840
Speaker 1: successful and not sport well, you know, because we're got

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01:15:30,920 --> 01:15:32,559
Speaker 1: to talk about your foundation. But I was just kind

1327
01:15:32,560 --> 01:15:35,200
Speaker 1: of getting everybody assisted who you are, you know, your

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01:15:35,280 --> 01:15:38,600
Speaker 1: story because the fact that you're a gifted athlete. You know,

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01:15:38,720 --> 01:15:40,640
Speaker 1: there are some steps that go through the process that

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01:15:40,800 --> 01:15:42,840
Speaker 1: you can get pushed the long. I know that, you know,

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01:15:42,960 --> 01:15:45,880
Speaker 1: as my daughter got better, you know, specialized coaches are

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01:15:45,880 --> 01:15:48,360
Speaker 1: coming around. You know, I was, you know, because they

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01:15:48,400 --> 01:15:51,479
Speaker 1: wanted to fix his fix her her backhand, you know,

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01:15:51,560 --> 01:15:54,880
Speaker 1: fix her serve, you know, fix her groundstrokes and all that.

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Speaker 1: But that's that period and not fast forward show. Yeah,

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01:15:59,520 --> 01:16:04,479
Speaker 1: I am academies. You have social media. What was the

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01:16:04,560 --> 01:16:07,200
Speaker 1: worst thing you had to deal with when you were

1338
01:16:07,280 --> 01:16:09,800
Speaker 1: coming out of high school that the players have to

1339
01:16:09,920 --> 01:16:13,120
Speaker 1: deal with today? You know, because technology it has to

1340
01:16:13,200 --> 01:16:15,479
Speaker 1: be with the one thing is the social media or

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01:16:15,600 --> 01:16:19,040
Speaker 1: is it is it the academies, is it the the circuits?

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01:16:19,320 --> 01:16:24,200
Speaker 1: What is it? Well? For me, I kind of missed

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01:16:24,240 --> 01:16:27,400
Speaker 1: the area, the area because they didn't come until later

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01:16:27,479 --> 01:16:30,360
Speaker 1: on where the old social media platforms and the I

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01:16:30,560 --> 01:16:32,680
Speaker 1: M G s. It was kind of later on in

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01:16:32,760 --> 01:16:35,080
Speaker 1: my high school career they kind of kind of made

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01:16:35,120 --> 01:16:37,400
Speaker 1: a big time. But when I was actually growing up,

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01:16:37,720 --> 01:16:39,920
Speaker 1: if you had any kind success, it was in the

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01:16:40,360 --> 01:16:43,599
Speaker 1: front page of newspaper. So we're reading that, and then

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01:16:43,600 --> 01:16:46,200
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, people circling, you know, every time

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01:16:46,240 --> 01:16:48,640
Speaker 1: they pay gets you that Hey, you know, you had

1352
01:16:48,720 --> 01:16:52,800
Speaker 1: to target in your back so minor compared to what

1353
01:16:52,880 --> 01:16:55,439
Speaker 1: it is with the social media. But if you read

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01:16:55,479 --> 01:16:57,679
Speaker 1: the paper, your parents got the paper, and your pictures

1355
01:16:57,720 --> 01:17:00,840
Speaker 1: on the front page of that sports section, people start

1356
01:17:00,920 --> 01:17:02,960
Speaker 1: paying attention to who you are, and then all of

1357
01:17:03,000 --> 01:17:05,559
Speaker 1: a sudden, your name kind of circulates throughout your whole

1358
01:17:05,920 --> 01:17:09,160
Speaker 1: area and people are trying to come after you from that,

1359
01:17:09,880 --> 01:17:12,400
Speaker 1: you know, because you know, because you know, social media

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01:17:12,479 --> 01:17:15,000
Speaker 1: exists now and it's like certain people shouldn't be certain

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01:17:15,000 --> 01:17:16,840
Speaker 1: people shouldn't be on social media. You know that to

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01:17:16,960 --> 01:17:20,320
Speaker 1: shell certain people should be cut off. You know, they

1363
01:17:20,880 --> 01:17:23,320
Speaker 1: Twitter to cut Donald Trump, They need to be cutting

1364
01:17:23,320 --> 01:17:26,840
Speaker 1: some of these athletes. So as you because you're a mentor,

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01:17:26,960 --> 01:17:29,200
Speaker 1: now you're a mentor, you as one of those been there,

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01:17:29,320 --> 01:17:32,679
Speaker 1: done that. Uh, the success is part of your resume.

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01:17:33,120 --> 01:17:36,560
Speaker 1: Duke University Hall of Famer. What you know? And I

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01:17:36,600 --> 01:17:39,000
Speaker 1: would tell you this, Sheldon. I you know, I wasn't

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01:17:39,000 --> 01:17:40,840
Speaker 1: a big fan of yours because you're just so good

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01:17:40,920 --> 01:17:42,679
Speaker 1: in college and you played for Duke. You know, I'll

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01:17:42,720 --> 01:17:44,439
Speaker 1: just tell you I love you as a man, as

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01:17:44,439 --> 01:17:48,320
Speaker 1: a person, because Duke was just man. How did you

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01:17:48,439 --> 01:17:51,240
Speaker 1: pick Duke? Man? You're in Oklahoma football country, you te

1374
01:17:51,520 --> 01:17:53,760
Speaker 1: right there, University of Texas is right there. You know

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01:17:53,760 --> 01:17:56,120
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, How did you go way over to

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01:17:56,280 --> 01:17:59,760
Speaker 1: Duke to play basketball? Well, that's a question that I got.

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01:18:00,000 --> 01:18:02,919
Speaker 1: It's a lot when I was leaving the state of Oklahoma.

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01:18:03,120 --> 01:18:06,439
Speaker 1: Like my high school teammate with the OU, my high

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01:18:06,479 --> 01:18:09,360
Speaker 1: school au teammate with OU. So they're trying to do

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01:18:09,439 --> 01:18:12,320
Speaker 1: that the package deal. You let's go, you know kind

1381
01:18:12,320 --> 01:18:14,880
Speaker 1: of like you know, Oklahoma boys stay in Oklahoma, which

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01:18:14,960 --> 01:18:19,720
Speaker 1: was cool. But you're trying to tell me the best

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01:18:19,800 --> 01:18:25,160
Speaker 1: of boath world Duke academics and do basketball and you

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01:18:25,240 --> 01:18:28,120
Speaker 1: have a chance to go there. That's that compare. Like,

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01:18:28,240 --> 01:18:31,400
Speaker 1: my dad was a big educator, so education was very

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01:18:31,560 --> 01:18:34,519
Speaker 1: high on our list of schools. When we actually looking

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01:18:34,560 --> 01:18:36,720
Speaker 1: for schools and played for it, so they have the

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01:18:36,800 --> 01:18:41,679
Speaker 1: best of both worlds. It didn't compare Dude, Texas Duke,

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01:18:41,760 --> 01:18:45,680
Speaker 1: oh you it didn't know it to school was the

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01:18:45,760 --> 01:18:48,599
Speaker 1: ship to stop with Shaw stop. It was no comparison, brother,

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01:18:48,880 --> 01:18:54,440
Speaker 1: Okay you team maybe oh you no way, Duke exceptional

1392
01:18:54,560 --> 01:18:56,280
Speaker 1: universe because a lot of people when you when you

1393
01:18:56,320 --> 01:18:59,280
Speaker 1: see a powerhouse like a Duke, you tend to throw

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01:18:59,320 --> 01:19:01,840
Speaker 1: him in a pot and forget the academics that comes

1395
01:19:01,920 --> 01:19:04,360
Speaker 1: with the school. Like dude, tell us about the academic

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01:19:04,439 --> 01:19:06,960
Speaker 1: standards that they have there and why I do get

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01:19:07,040 --> 01:19:12,360
Speaker 1: such a strong academic school. Well, the academic standards was,

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01:19:13,080 --> 01:19:15,439
Speaker 1: like I said, one of the major reasons why I

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01:19:15,520 --> 01:19:17,519
Speaker 1: chose that. Like my dad, as I said before, it

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01:19:17,600 --> 01:19:20,240
Speaker 1: was a big educator, so he stressed education on us

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01:19:20,360 --> 01:19:23,160
Speaker 1: all the time. With him being a teacher, we have

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01:19:23,880 --> 01:19:27,479
Speaker 1: assignments and projects all year round, like whatever we had

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01:19:27,560 --> 01:19:30,120
Speaker 1: going on for school, if we didn't have homework, best

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01:19:30,160 --> 01:19:32,200
Speaker 1: believe that my dad came home all right, well we

1405
01:19:32,280 --> 01:19:34,680
Speaker 1: got this project to do, or you gotta read for

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01:19:34,760 --> 01:19:36,800
Speaker 1: an hour on this book right here. So it was

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01:19:36,880 --> 01:19:40,360
Speaker 1: always him pushing us to do something. The further us

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01:19:40,439 --> 01:19:43,240
Speaker 1: along with our education. But once we got to do

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01:19:43,880 --> 01:19:46,960
Speaker 1: it was the same thing where you're in classes, you're

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01:19:47,000 --> 01:19:49,799
Speaker 1: in study hall, you and all kinds of study groups

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01:19:50,120 --> 01:19:53,519
Speaker 1: that kind of make yourself, you know, put yourself in

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01:19:53,880 --> 01:19:57,040
Speaker 1: good position to actually be successful. So a lot of

1413
01:19:57,120 --> 01:19:59,759
Speaker 1: the times were you think you may not know something,

1414
01:20:01,080 --> 01:20:04,280
Speaker 1: dude did a good job of having people accessible to

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01:20:04,400 --> 01:20:07,040
Speaker 1: talk to to help you along the way. And also,

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01:20:07,680 --> 01:20:10,439
Speaker 1: I mean just just with the education alone, we know

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01:20:10,600 --> 01:20:12,400
Speaker 1: that if you got a piece of paper from dude,

1418
01:20:12,920 --> 01:20:14,479
Speaker 1: it's gonna set you up for you know, whatever you

1419
01:20:14,520 --> 01:20:16,560
Speaker 1: want to do later on. Now, when when when you

1420
01:20:16,680 --> 01:20:20,240
Speaker 1: talk about yourself, sir, as a player, you know, when

1421
01:20:20,280 --> 01:20:22,719
Speaker 1: do you start making a conscious decision that it's time

1422
01:20:22,760 --> 01:20:25,280
Speaker 1: to move on when you're an athlete, you know, because

1423
01:20:25,760 --> 01:20:27,960
Speaker 1: that's the hardest decision, you know, because of the fact

1424
01:20:28,040 --> 01:20:31,000
Speaker 1: that it's something some ways you don't plan for an exit.

1425
01:20:31,479 --> 01:20:34,479
Speaker 1: How do you know what? And also the second question

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01:20:34,640 --> 01:20:37,759
Speaker 1: is that when did the Sheldon when you foundation get started?

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01:20:37,840 --> 01:20:40,360
Speaker 1: Was it do when you're playing days or after you

1428
01:20:40,560 --> 01:20:44,439
Speaker 1: left the plan if you left the court, Well, it

1429
01:20:44,600 --> 01:20:47,880
Speaker 1: was always in my mind, the sun Man's Foundation was

1430
01:20:47,880 --> 01:20:50,479
Speaker 1: always my mind to do. I just didn't have time

1431
01:20:50,520 --> 01:20:53,400
Speaker 1: to do it because once I got done planned, I

1432
01:20:53,520 --> 01:20:57,240
Speaker 1: had my daughter, you know, the whole off season. So

1433
01:20:58,760 --> 01:21:02,920
Speaker 1: with me playing, my daughter was getting older and was like, Daddy,

1434
01:21:03,680 --> 01:21:06,360
Speaker 1: I come, You're always away. And that kind of got

1435
01:21:06,439 --> 01:21:09,040
Speaker 1: to me because like she doesn't understand we're trying to

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01:21:09,120 --> 01:21:12,599
Speaker 1: make a living for her. All she sees is Daddy

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01:21:13,040 --> 01:21:15,639
Speaker 1: is on a road trip or Daddy's gone for whatever

1438
01:21:15,920 --> 01:21:19,240
Speaker 1: amount of days. That's all she's seeing. So it kind

1439
01:21:19,280 --> 01:21:20,960
Speaker 1: of got to me. That's why I kind of retired

1440
01:21:20,960 --> 01:21:23,519
Speaker 1: a little bit earlier because I was like, nowhere, You're right,

1441
01:21:24,640 --> 01:21:27,200
Speaker 1: some things are more important and you are more important.

1442
01:21:27,240 --> 01:21:29,920
Speaker 1: So I wind up retiring early so I could spend

1443
01:21:30,000 --> 01:21:32,479
Speaker 1: extra time with her, And as I said it before,

1444
01:21:32,760 --> 01:21:34,439
Speaker 1: I kind of, you know, got into a job where

1445
01:21:34,479 --> 01:21:37,280
Speaker 1: I was still able to do basketball with the West

1446
01:21:37,320 --> 01:21:40,160
Speaker 1: Coast Scouting and then be with her. But kind of

1447
01:21:40,200 --> 01:21:42,839
Speaker 1: going back to the question about the Sheldon Winds Foundation,

1448
01:21:43,479 --> 01:21:46,200
Speaker 1: that was something I had already in mind. It was

1449
01:21:46,280 --> 01:21:48,520
Speaker 1: just a matter of doing it. So once I retired,

1450
01:21:49,240 --> 01:21:51,439
Speaker 1: I want to say I took about a year before

1451
01:21:51,439 --> 01:21:54,000
Speaker 1: I started doing anything about it because that whole year

1452
01:21:54,040 --> 01:21:56,400
Speaker 1: I took off it, which is me and my daughter,

1453
01:21:56,680 --> 01:21:57,920
Speaker 1: and I was making sure it I was doing like

1454
01:21:58,040 --> 01:22:02,880
Speaker 1: no ballet glasses and recitals and you know all those

1455
01:22:02,920 --> 01:22:04,840
Speaker 1: other things that I didn't think about self doing. But

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01:22:05,000 --> 01:22:06,840
Speaker 1: I'm a very front row you know, doing all that

1457
01:22:06,880 --> 01:22:09,200
Speaker 1: stuff like you know, uh, just kind of beaming her

1458
01:22:09,240 --> 01:22:12,519
Speaker 1: and making that for lost time and everything. But I

1459
01:22:12,680 --> 01:22:15,120
Speaker 1: wanted to do that because one I grew up, my

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01:22:15,280 --> 01:22:20,599
Speaker 1: mom was big into doing charity foundation whatever you wanna

1461
01:22:20,680 --> 01:22:23,479
Speaker 1: call it. You know, I'm private type of word. Growing up.

1462
01:22:23,479 --> 01:22:25,840
Speaker 1: When I was doing Rona McDonald house, I was doing

1463
01:22:26,000 --> 01:22:29,400
Speaker 1: the homeless moment meals, those things were already still in me.

1464
01:22:29,800 --> 01:22:31,040
Speaker 1: It was just a matter of back, you know, a

1465
01:22:31,120 --> 01:22:33,400
Speaker 1: matter of just getting me back into the swing of

1466
01:22:33,479 --> 01:22:38,120
Speaker 1: things and getting the opportunity to actually fully invested myself

1467
01:22:38,200 --> 01:22:40,200
Speaker 1: in doing that. And that's why I started showing Metals

1468
01:22:40,200 --> 01:22:42,840
Speaker 1: Foundation about two years ago. Okay, now you said the

1469
01:22:42,880 --> 01:22:46,560
Speaker 1: show the Whiz Foundations dedicated to empowering student athletes and

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01:22:46,640 --> 01:22:51,560
Speaker 1: their family about delivering and supporting initiatives that promote emotional

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01:22:51,960 --> 01:22:54,880
Speaker 1: and physical health. Let's stop right there. I got the

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01:22:54,960 --> 01:22:58,880
Speaker 1: physical health. What is the emotional and physical health through

1473
01:22:58,920 --> 01:23:03,880
Speaker 1: sports at ucation and community involvement? Talk to us about that. Well,

1474
01:23:04,000 --> 01:23:07,320
Speaker 1: as you see a lot of kids nowadays, they're dealing

1475
01:23:07,520 --> 01:23:11,080
Speaker 1: with a lot more than I wouldn't say a lot more.

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01:23:11,560 --> 01:23:14,639
Speaker 1: I think it's more addressed now than it was back

1477
01:23:14,880 --> 01:23:16,800
Speaker 1: when I played. Because if you had any kind of

1478
01:23:17,320 --> 01:23:22,759
Speaker 1: situation where off court problems or you know, uh, family

1479
01:23:22,920 --> 01:23:25,759
Speaker 1: issues once you got into court. A lot of coaches

1480
01:23:25,800 --> 01:23:27,080
Speaker 1: but how you do this? If you can't do it,

1481
01:23:27,280 --> 01:23:29,280
Speaker 1: I'll find somebody that doesn't. That that doesn't that would

1482
01:23:29,280 --> 01:23:31,960
Speaker 1: do that now past for in all these years, like hey,

1483
01:23:32,439 --> 01:23:36,240
Speaker 1: I noticed that you're not being yourself, Come over and

1484
01:23:36,280 --> 01:23:39,000
Speaker 1: talk to me. What's going on? You know, getting to

1485
01:23:39,080 --> 01:23:40,840
Speaker 1: that point where you know where you more than just

1486
01:23:41,920 --> 01:23:44,720
Speaker 1: you know in that way, you're a human being, You're

1487
01:23:44,720 --> 01:23:46,800
Speaker 1: a person. So I want to make sure that I'm

1488
01:23:47,040 --> 01:23:49,760
Speaker 1: time to what you're doing as well and talking to

1489
01:23:49,880 --> 01:23:52,639
Speaker 1: you as a human being and not just a person

1490
01:23:53,040 --> 01:23:55,320
Speaker 1: that comes and not just like a factor that comes

1491
01:23:55,360 --> 01:23:57,840
Speaker 1: in and out. You know how it is with sports work,

1492
01:23:58,600 --> 01:24:01,880
Speaker 1: things changed so fluidly, like everybody's coming in and out.

1493
01:24:01,880 --> 01:24:03,639
Speaker 1: I want to make sure that you know that I'm

1494
01:24:03,720 --> 01:24:07,559
Speaker 1: here to talk. This is beyond basketball. It's really important

1495
01:24:07,600 --> 01:24:09,599
Speaker 1: because like I said, I can relate to a lot

1496
01:24:09,640 --> 01:24:12,120
Speaker 1: of the things that you're talking about. Because my wife

1497
01:24:12,200 --> 01:24:14,720
Speaker 1: was with Marke, you know, she she retired, she was

1498
01:24:15,640 --> 01:24:19,639
Speaker 1: practicing uh otometris, and she retired so my daughter could

1499
01:24:19,640 --> 01:24:22,640
Speaker 1: travel and make sure that a stranger wasn't tied to

1500
01:24:23,200 --> 01:24:25,880
Speaker 1: my daughter and making sure my daughter was, you know,

1501
01:24:26,000 --> 01:24:29,519
Speaker 1: not being mistreated physically, because like you're saying, as an athlete,

1502
01:24:29,560 --> 01:24:32,600
Speaker 1: people will push you and guess what, and guess what

1503
01:24:33,040 --> 01:24:35,120
Speaker 1: and and and push you beyond. Because I see so

1504
01:24:35,200 --> 01:24:39,960
Speaker 1: many stories about tremendous athletes who failed because they were

1505
01:24:40,000 --> 01:24:42,639
Speaker 1: put in the situation, they were uncomfortable, and they didn't

1506
01:24:42,640 --> 01:24:45,439
Speaker 1: have mentors, or they refused to tell their parents what

1507
01:24:45,560 --> 01:24:49,560
Speaker 1: was going on out of fear. What made you survive?

1508
01:24:50,040 --> 01:24:51,920
Speaker 1: Because I love the way you keep bringing up your

1509
01:24:51,960 --> 01:24:55,120
Speaker 1: parents this whole conversation, doing this interview were doing, Shelton,

1510
01:24:55,479 --> 01:24:59,519
Speaker 1: you constantly mentioned your parents. That really is the key

1511
01:24:59,640 --> 01:25:02,360
Speaker 1: to you and who you are today, right, your parents?

1512
01:25:03,880 --> 01:25:06,600
Speaker 1: Of course, I mean, my parents is what made me

1513
01:25:07,400 --> 01:25:09,360
Speaker 1: who I am today, Me and my younger brother who

1514
01:25:09,360 --> 01:25:11,880
Speaker 1: I am today, who we are today. I said, like,

1515
01:25:12,400 --> 01:25:15,439
Speaker 1: if they wasn't able to steal those things into us,

1516
01:25:16,720 --> 01:25:19,599
Speaker 1: be where we are right now or what we're trying

1517
01:25:19,600 --> 01:25:21,720
Speaker 1: to do what we're trying to accomplish right now. So

1518
01:25:22,000 --> 01:25:24,400
Speaker 1: it's a big credit to what they did for us

1519
01:25:24,439 --> 01:25:27,680
Speaker 1: growing up, and now it's more so like, hey, you

1520
01:25:27,800 --> 01:25:31,080
Speaker 1: see a version of them in us as we are

1521
01:25:31,160 --> 01:25:33,240
Speaker 1: doing things that we're trying to do later on that life.

1522
01:25:33,680 --> 01:25:36,040
Speaker 1: So I would say, like you know, me always mentioned

1523
01:25:36,080 --> 01:25:38,400
Speaker 1: my parents as a reason for that because they played

1524
01:25:38,720 --> 01:25:41,639
Speaker 1: and still are playing a big factor in my life.

1525
01:25:42,240 --> 01:25:45,120
Speaker 1: Now Here is the interesting thing about both our lives.

1526
01:25:45,160 --> 01:25:49,479
Speaker 1: We're black men, Sheldon and and I tell people, are

1527
01:25:49,760 --> 01:25:51,559
Speaker 1: you know I gotta go back you know the George

1528
01:25:51,600 --> 01:25:55,040
Speaker 1: Floyd And like I said, you and I both know that. Well,

1529
01:25:55,400 --> 01:25:59,639
Speaker 1: I can speak for myself. A cop stops me for anything,

1530
01:26:00,160 --> 01:26:04,040
Speaker 1: my flag score. I don't feel comfortable, especially at night.

1531
01:26:04,080 --> 01:26:07,240
Speaker 1: I don't really feel comfortable at all. And so it's

1532
01:26:07,280 --> 01:26:09,760
Speaker 1: that part of the education process that you're talking about,

1533
01:26:09,800 --> 01:26:13,200
Speaker 1: the community involvement process that you're talking about, trying to

1534
01:26:14,080 --> 01:26:18,439
Speaker 1: develop relationships for young black man and female young ladies

1535
01:26:18,760 --> 01:26:20,840
Speaker 1: can be able to get through life in sports is

1536
01:26:20,960 --> 01:26:22,760
Speaker 1: just one of the tools that they can get them

1537
01:26:22,760 --> 01:26:25,479
Speaker 1: out of the neighborhood. Have given them positive options because

1538
01:26:25,880 --> 01:26:28,280
Speaker 1: the world sees us for who we are based on

1539
01:26:28,360 --> 01:26:30,360
Speaker 1: the color of our skin. I don't care what anybody says.

1540
01:26:30,920 --> 01:26:34,000
Speaker 1: The color of our skin creates a different conversation. How

1541
01:26:34,080 --> 01:26:37,679
Speaker 1: do you correlate that within your your foundation, the Shelton

1542
01:26:37,720 --> 01:26:43,680
Speaker 1: with the Foundation family. It is a top beat we

1543
01:26:44,400 --> 01:26:49,760
Speaker 1: constantly have to have for people that look like you're man, Man.

1544
01:26:50,240 --> 01:26:53,200
Speaker 1: We have to do every time, and it's it's sad

1545
01:26:53,320 --> 01:26:55,200
Speaker 1: to say, but we have to continue to do that.

1546
01:26:55,840 --> 01:26:58,679
Speaker 1: A lot of this stuff, especially this year, has been

1547
01:26:58,840 --> 01:27:04,759
Speaker 1: more and more recorded, seeing you know, going viral, whatever

1548
01:27:05,000 --> 01:27:07,320
Speaker 1: that you're saying or whatever you think it is. It's

1549
01:27:07,360 --> 01:27:10,280
Speaker 1: been going on for decades and decades, but yet we're

1550
01:27:10,320 --> 01:27:14,080
Speaker 1: seeing more and more almost on a daily basis, and

1551
01:27:14,560 --> 01:27:18,120
Speaker 1: a conversation that needs to continue to happen for people

1552
01:27:18,160 --> 01:27:22,880
Speaker 1: that look like us has to be a forefront conversation

1553
01:27:23,360 --> 01:27:27,680
Speaker 1: because if you're not blessed enough to come from like

1554
01:27:27,960 --> 01:27:31,200
Speaker 1: Rocking from a two parent home where I was able

1555
01:27:31,240 --> 01:27:35,280
Speaker 1: to have these conversations daily about what to do in

1556
01:27:35,400 --> 01:27:38,240
Speaker 1: these situations, a lot of these kids don't have that,

1557
01:27:38,439 --> 01:27:41,200
Speaker 1: so having somebody actually can talk them through these things

1558
01:27:41,479 --> 01:27:46,559
Speaker 1: so they're not another statistic ended up like the people

1559
01:27:46,600 --> 01:27:48,840
Speaker 1: you mentioned, which is sad and safe. But that's how

1560
01:27:48,920 --> 01:27:53,400
Speaker 1: it is for us them nowadays. I know it's you know,

1561
01:27:53,680 --> 01:27:56,240
Speaker 1: because it's because we're having a real conversation now, you know,

1562
01:27:56,280 --> 01:27:58,320
Speaker 1: and I'm not saying we didn't have one earlier, but

1563
01:27:58,479 --> 01:28:00,640
Speaker 1: because of the fact that you and I both know

1564
01:28:01,160 --> 01:28:03,680
Speaker 1: you know, you know, you're taller black man than me,

1565
01:28:04,000 --> 01:28:07,920
Speaker 1: you know, which means that I dude as successful as

1566
01:28:07,960 --> 01:28:10,560
Speaker 1: I have been in my life. I've walked by some

1567
01:28:10,720 --> 01:28:14,080
Speaker 1: white women clutch their bags. I saw them look at

1568
01:28:14,120 --> 01:28:17,080
Speaker 1: me in a manner that I think that they feared

1569
01:28:17,160 --> 01:28:20,000
Speaker 1: that I was gonna do something and I'm I'm in

1570
01:28:20,080 --> 01:28:24,040
Speaker 1: tailor suits. I've walked into places and people have questioned,

1571
01:28:24,479 --> 01:28:26,280
Speaker 1: would I would have looked as to why I'm in

1572
01:28:26,400 --> 01:28:28,559
Speaker 1: that facility or why I'm in that restaurant, or why

1573
01:28:28,600 --> 01:28:31,320
Speaker 1: am I walking down that street? You know? And uh.

1574
01:28:31,640 --> 01:28:35,479
Speaker 1: But with that being said, you know, athletes has always

1575
01:28:35,640 --> 01:28:40,400
Speaker 1: proven to be a vehicle of change, a vehicle of opportunity.

1576
01:28:41,000 --> 01:28:44,360
Speaker 1: But like we also stated with Lebron, he's trying to

1577
01:28:45,040 --> 01:28:48,559
Speaker 1: peel back this. We are only dare to do a service,

1578
01:28:49,160 --> 01:28:52,040
Speaker 1: and that's a physical service, and I feel that's part

1579
01:28:52,080 --> 01:28:54,840
Speaker 1: of what you're trying to do with the Sheldon Williams Foundation. Correct,

1580
01:28:55,240 --> 01:28:59,000
Speaker 1: You're more than delivering a physical service. You're you're you're

1581
01:28:59,080 --> 01:29:03,759
Speaker 1: you're developing people who are taxpayers, who are gonna get education,

1582
01:29:03,880 --> 01:29:05,719
Speaker 1: who are going to make a difference in the community.

1583
01:29:05,840 --> 01:29:08,960
Speaker 1: That seems to be the core of the Sheldon Williams Foundation.

1584
01:29:09,000 --> 01:29:12,799
Speaker 1: Am I correct? Yes, I mean you kind of putty

1585
01:29:12,840 --> 01:29:14,439
Speaker 1: much hit it on the head for a lot of

1586
01:29:14,520 --> 01:29:17,559
Speaker 1: these youth that I'm trying to help and get back

1587
01:29:17,640 --> 01:29:21,519
Speaker 1: and give opportunities to a lot of undeserving families and

1588
01:29:21,960 --> 01:29:25,120
Speaker 1: people that want to be able to get out of

1589
01:29:25,280 --> 01:29:27,240
Speaker 1: situations that you are in right now. I mean you

1590
01:29:27,320 --> 01:29:30,679
Speaker 1: kind of said that already. How you being in tailor

1591
01:29:30,800 --> 01:29:34,040
Speaker 1: suits me, I already have a kind of a two

1592
01:29:34,080 --> 01:29:37,880
Speaker 1: strikes against me being tall and black. When I'm walking

1593
01:29:37,920 --> 01:29:41,040
Speaker 1: down the street, you do see those things. And I'm

1594
01:29:41,080 --> 01:29:46,160
Speaker 1: a guy that I'm not necessarily over, you know, joyous,

1595
01:29:46,200 --> 01:29:48,280
Speaker 1: and I'm walking around like if I know you, there's

1596
01:29:48,280 --> 01:29:50,320
Speaker 1: something different to her. But if I'm walking around, I'm

1597
01:29:50,479 --> 01:29:54,479
Speaker 1: very very stow it. I said. People will take that

1598
01:29:54,640 --> 01:29:57,960
Speaker 1: as a sign of, you know, I don't know something

1599
01:29:58,040 --> 01:30:00,840
Speaker 1: that makes them afraid. And couple that I've been dealing

1600
01:30:00,880 --> 01:30:05,400
Speaker 1: with from pretty much day one, and seeing this, I

1601
01:30:05,479 --> 01:30:07,439
Speaker 1: have to actually over like you know, hey, how you

1602
01:30:07,600 --> 01:30:10,040
Speaker 1: doing over? You know, and make myself like you know,

1603
01:30:10,200 --> 01:30:13,439
Speaker 1: even make make make sure that feel more comfortable, which

1604
01:30:13,439 --> 01:30:16,160
Speaker 1: is sad that I've actually do this absolutely, you know,

1605
01:30:16,479 --> 01:30:18,360
Speaker 1: you gotta make them feel more comfortable. You have to

1606
01:30:18,479 --> 01:30:20,519
Speaker 1: change the way you walk, you have to change your

1607
01:30:20,600 --> 01:30:23,320
Speaker 1: tone to make people feel more comfortable when guess what,

1608
01:30:23,439 --> 01:30:26,519
Speaker 1: You're already comfortable. You know that, you know, like I said,

1609
01:30:26,520 --> 01:30:29,120
Speaker 1: I just wanted to just bring that out, you know,

1610
01:30:29,200 --> 01:30:31,440
Speaker 1: because on this show, I try to have honest conversations.

1611
01:30:31,520 --> 01:30:32,960
Speaker 1: You know. You know, you can do a lot of

1612
01:30:33,000 --> 01:30:36,919
Speaker 1: interviews Sheldon and these and these interviews about the success

1613
01:30:37,000 --> 01:30:39,639
Speaker 1: of your career, but we're talking about now and how

1614
01:30:39,720 --> 01:30:41,560
Speaker 1: you have to change lives now. Like you said a

1615
01:30:41,600 --> 01:30:44,599
Speaker 1: couple of years ago, you started to Sheldon Wives Foundation,

1616
01:30:44,880 --> 01:30:46,840
Speaker 1: It's an extension of who you are. Is this the

1617
01:30:46,960 --> 01:30:49,760
Speaker 1: voice of who you are now? Because at one point

1618
01:30:49,920 --> 01:30:52,560
Speaker 1: the voice of who you were was an athlete? Is

1619
01:30:52,640 --> 01:30:57,200
Speaker 1: this your voice now? This is pretty this is pretty

1620
01:30:57,280 --> 01:31:02,560
Speaker 1: much my voice. Part A, part B, you know, like

1621
01:31:03,120 --> 01:31:06,240
Speaker 1: building up. As you keep growing, you keep evolving, and

1622
01:31:06,280 --> 01:31:09,400
Speaker 1: that's that we as human beings continue to do so.

1623
01:31:10,000 --> 01:31:13,080
Speaker 1: A lot of people, especially before social media, you only

1624
01:31:13,160 --> 01:31:15,880
Speaker 1: see the weak. And then if you follow me on

1625
01:31:16,080 --> 01:31:20,320
Speaker 1: social media, you'll see I'm talking about you know, my daughter, uh,

1626
01:31:20,640 --> 01:31:23,800
Speaker 1: social issues. You know, you'll see, like I said, Part one,

1627
01:31:23,920 --> 01:31:26,320
Speaker 1: Part two, Part three, You're seeing a lot of stuff

1628
01:31:26,320 --> 01:31:30,400
Speaker 1: that's going on, and that's involving as I involved, as

1629
01:31:31,080 --> 01:31:33,360
Speaker 1: in the person I'm gonna become in the future. But

1630
01:31:33,479 --> 01:31:37,160
Speaker 1: it's always every changing, so you always gonna get something

1631
01:31:38,080 --> 01:31:41,960
Speaker 1: different than you may see a month, you know, a

1632
01:31:42,040 --> 01:31:44,960
Speaker 1: year ago, where the case may be, you will see

1633
01:31:45,320 --> 01:31:48,920
Speaker 1: that I'm not gonna be just put into a category

1634
01:31:49,040 --> 01:31:51,400
Speaker 1: of box. I'm always gonna try to help me and

1635
01:31:51,439 --> 01:31:55,000
Speaker 1: try to extend myself and do more things where I'm

1636
01:31:55,040 --> 01:31:57,840
Speaker 1: not gonna be just one category. Okay, let let's have

1637
01:31:58,000 --> 01:31:59,840
Speaker 1: some fun here. You know you you you know you

1638
01:32:00,040 --> 01:32:03,880
Speaker 1: former lottery pick, you former NBA player. You're watching games,

1639
01:32:04,000 --> 01:32:07,000
Speaker 1: you know you? You know we we see the big

1640
01:32:07,120 --> 01:32:11,040
Speaker 1: three they didn't put together in Brooklyn. Can they win

1641
01:32:11,160 --> 01:32:15,479
Speaker 1: it all? She? Can they win it all? Well? The thing?

1642
01:32:16,040 --> 01:32:22,000
Speaker 1: The thing is, until last this past year, Lebron and

1643
01:32:22,240 --> 01:32:24,920
Speaker 1: a d were the first team to win Route the

1644
01:32:25,000 --> 01:32:28,160
Speaker 1: Bat when they got there for a long time. I

1645
01:32:28,200 --> 01:32:31,479
Speaker 1: mean when Lebron and uh Lebron and U D Wade

1646
01:32:31,520 --> 01:32:33,680
Speaker 1: and Chris Bosh when they got together, they didn't win

1647
01:32:33,800 --> 01:32:35,559
Speaker 1: roup the bat. They then wait a couple of years

1648
01:32:36,200 --> 01:32:39,000
Speaker 1: before they win their first one. I mean, you have

1649
01:32:39,120 --> 01:32:41,760
Speaker 1: all these different big three as forming. The last time

1650
01:32:41,800 --> 01:32:43,599
Speaker 1: I've seen a big three to form that won right

1651
01:32:43,640 --> 01:32:47,519
Speaker 1: off the bat was back in Boston win KG Paul

1652
01:32:47,640 --> 01:32:52,000
Speaker 1: and Real and first formed up. It's difficult to do,

1653
01:32:52,600 --> 01:32:56,160
Speaker 1: especially with guys that demand the ball as much as

1654
01:32:56,160 --> 01:32:58,760
Speaker 1: they did. I know they had a hard lost last night.

1655
01:33:00,160 --> 01:33:04,920
Speaker 1: H I don't really pay attention to that loss, just because,

1656
01:33:05,760 --> 01:33:08,360
Speaker 1: like with me being that dude, a lot of people

1657
01:33:08,960 --> 01:33:13,080
Speaker 1: circle our number are on the calendar to make sure

1658
01:33:13,120 --> 01:33:15,519
Speaker 1: that no matter what we're doing, we're gonna get up

1659
01:33:15,560 --> 01:33:17,439
Speaker 1: for this game. And that's how it is for broken

1660
01:33:17,520 --> 01:33:19,600
Speaker 1: nets right now. A lot of people don't get up

1661
01:33:19,880 --> 01:33:23,639
Speaker 1: for that game. So they lost to uh Washington Ridzards.

1662
01:33:23,680 --> 01:33:26,240
Speaker 1: But when I say one or two points and it

1663
01:33:26,360 --> 01:33:29,360
Speaker 1: was a high scoring game, But until Washington Wizards can

1664
01:33:29,439 --> 01:33:32,800
Speaker 1: continue to do and play like that, that game doesn't

1665
01:33:32,800 --> 01:33:37,880
Speaker 1: really mean it doesn't hold much weight. Just because they lost.

1666
01:33:38,680 --> 01:33:41,080
Speaker 1: That's that's the nature of playing. What's sending in two

1667
01:33:41,160 --> 01:33:43,719
Speaker 1: games this season. But when you when you talk about

1668
01:33:43,840 --> 01:33:46,799
Speaker 1: playing the game and watching the career and then Sheldon,

1669
01:33:47,160 --> 01:33:49,719
Speaker 1: I look at that their honors or your jersey number

1670
01:33:49,840 --> 01:33:52,479
Speaker 1: and seeing Dupe in the Hall of Fame? What what?

1671
01:33:52,600 --> 01:33:54,960
Speaker 1: What stands out to be the most impressive thing that

1672
01:33:55,160 --> 01:33:57,960
Speaker 1: is happening in your career that you would always go, man,

1673
01:33:58,040 --> 01:33:59,960
Speaker 1: I can't believe that happened to me because you've got them,

1674
01:34:00,320 --> 01:34:03,960
Speaker 1: you know, Gatorade Award to All American Honors, lottery pig

1675
01:34:04,080 --> 01:34:06,920
Speaker 1: walked on the stage and recognized in front of thousand

1676
01:34:06,960 --> 01:34:08,920
Speaker 1: people as one of the top athletes in the world.

1677
01:34:09,400 --> 01:34:11,880
Speaker 1: What what? What? What always brings a smile to your

1678
01:34:11,920 --> 01:34:14,280
Speaker 1: face when you think about it from an athletic standpoint,

1679
01:34:14,880 --> 01:34:18,960
Speaker 1: I'm probably gonna say being able to have an opportunity

1680
01:34:18,960 --> 01:34:22,120
Speaker 1: to have my jersey hung in the raptors of Cameron

1681
01:34:22,200 --> 01:34:25,559
Speaker 1: Door Stadium, being one of thirteen guys, that's a that's

1682
01:34:25,560 --> 01:34:29,280
Speaker 1: a bad raptor that Christians later Dave, that's a bad rafter.

1683
01:34:29,400 --> 01:34:33,479
Speaker 1: That baby gret bred Hill, come on that bat. No,

1684
01:34:33,800 --> 01:34:37,800
Speaker 1: I know, Duke man of all the bread layers, that

1685
01:34:37,880 --> 01:34:41,479
Speaker 1: playing due my name and my jersey will be forever

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Speaker 1: home in that raptors. So I wouldn't say that's probably

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Speaker 1: the greatest one is like being a kid out of Oklahoma.

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Speaker 1: I didn't see myself one leaving the state of Oklahoma

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Speaker 1: because at that time I've only seen one player leave

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Speaker 1: left to go to Syracuse. Everybody staying in the state

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Speaker 1: of Oklahoma. So once I got a chance to actually

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Speaker 1: played for Duke University, yes, my careers are unfolding, and

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Speaker 1: that opportunity to become our player that was gonna become

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Speaker 1: that was a true blessing because I didn't go in

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Speaker 1: to do think now, I wouldn't do trying to think, Hey,

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Speaker 1: an interview long overdue for us to connect. UH COVID

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Speaker 1: slowed down the relationship with one. You know, we know

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Speaker 1: what COVID is gonna do. From an athletic standpoint, we

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Speaker 1: and they're given an extra year of eligibility. But I

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Speaker 1: for your brother. And I hope you enjoyed this interview.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate that I did enjoy the nterview. I appreciate

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Speaker 1: you have me on. It was great talk, great discussions. Also,

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Speaker 1: I mean for us to actually talk about not just basketball,

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Speaker 1: you so much for having me on. I really appreciate

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Speaker 1: my time. Well, you know the great thing about the

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Speaker 1: Sheldon is that you know me now, you know that

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Speaker 1: you know when we're talking, the future is gonna be

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Speaker 1: a different because you know coming on and I said hello,

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Speaker 1: My next two guests about being committed to their effort,

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Speaker 1: being commuted to a plan. And actually, I'm for sure

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Speaker 1: when they started talking about this dream, people probably looked

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Speaker 1: at them sideways told them that was impossible, that could

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Speaker 1: loves you, swear you from your dream. I want to

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Speaker 1: my Keith Lupton and Win Wait the second I call

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Speaker 1: him w W two. There two of the followers of

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Speaker 1: TCP Network. TCP stands for the Cultural Professional Network. They

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Speaker 1: recently took that business up in another notch in this

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Speaker 1: new year, bringing their content on Roku, which is really

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Speaker 1: really important, launching their Real Cool channel TCP TV. TCPTV

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Speaker 1: aims to give people all color and other disenfranchise groups

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Speaker 1: of voice on this platform and supports its community through

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Speaker 1: Please work with to Money Making Conversation, my friends, because

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Speaker 1: Marquetes Loveton and he's not in studio, but if my

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Speaker 1: man the w W two William, Wait a second, thank

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Speaker 1: you for having us, Thank you for having us. You know,

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Speaker 1: you know you got a nathing like that. W W.

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Speaker 1: I gotta give you some hype. You what I'm saying, Well, guys,

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Speaker 1: you know there's a conversation I'm having with both of

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Speaker 1: you about the network called the Cultural Professional Network, and uh,

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Speaker 1: you know sometimes I'm gonna reference you Markees and something

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Speaker 1: reference you with, but feel free to create this in

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Speaker 1: a conversation about your brand that each one feels comfortable

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Speaker 1: a boy chiming in because I really want to let

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Speaker 1: my audience know and also build name and brand recognition.

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Speaker 1: That's what it's about when you come on shows like this,

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Speaker 1: so people walk away with a clear understanding what you're

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Speaker 1: trying to do. And I want to just start the

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Speaker 1: interview by saying congratulations by getting on the real coup platform.

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Speaker 1: Thank you very much, Thank you very much. Appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: It was it was actually a um uh it was

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Speaker 1: part of our like five year plan um and it

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Speaker 1: and it happened in in three years, you know. Uh,

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Speaker 1: So it's um testament um to the team that we

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Speaker 1: have right now. We have to date about about forty people.

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Speaker 1: Uh that that helped this thing move, you know, um

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Speaker 1: um and and everyone from start to finish, top to

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Speaker 1: bottom left right, um has has really helped this dream

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Speaker 1: come true. Now when you say dream come true, what

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Speaker 1: is the dream? Uh? The dream? The dream is all right? UM,

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Speaker 1: if I can have everybody just a dream with me

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Speaker 1: real quick, alright. Uh. On the right hand side, you

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Speaker 1: have your local news. You know your local affiliates, your

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Speaker 1: your ABC, CBS IS NBCs. Uh. You know that that

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Speaker 1: this group over here there they're not going to cover

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Speaker 1: certain stories um that that effect uh certain neighborhoods. Um,

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Speaker 1: certain neighborhoods. You know that they're only gonna have a

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Speaker 1: narrative um come out of that neighborhood that they're not

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Speaker 1: going to search for those um field good stories, those

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Speaker 1: stories that take a little bit more elbow breaths to get.

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Speaker 1: So you have your local affiliates over here. Over here,

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Speaker 1: you have your CB I mean your major CBS is,

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Speaker 1: you have your CNN's MSNBC S, and you have your

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Speaker 1: B E T s. Um. We know that when when

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Speaker 1: they talk about the melonated people, uh, people of color

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Speaker 1: in this country, Uh, it's it's more sell like a

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Speaker 1: broad stroke. It's never gonna get down to individual communities, uh,

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Speaker 1: individual neighborhoods. Uh. That's where TCP exists. We exist right

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Speaker 1: in that middle um be because we know that the

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Speaker 1: local affiliates, UM, they're not going to get the stories

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Speaker 1: that really address us UM and the national Uh, they're

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Speaker 1: not really going to have that microscope, so to speak,

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Speaker 1: to to break down certain stories that happen in certain neighborhoods,

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Speaker 1: communities and what happened. So we exist kind of right

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Speaker 1: in that middle sphere. Uh. And as we said, let

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Speaker 1: me ask you now, William. Now the network has ten shows,

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Speaker 1: and now you have a show which I'm about to

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01:45:27,520 --> 01:45:30,479
Speaker 1: ask you to start talking. It's tall say Less, so

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Speaker 1: you know which is you know, in the in the

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Speaker 1: world of what we're talking about, a lot of people

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Speaker 1: say sometimes you should speak up. So we have a

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Speaker 1: tyler call say Less. Well, what do you mean by that? Say?

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Speaker 1: Lust is actually probably the opposite because we saved the

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Speaker 1: most um. That is exactly. It's kind of like a uh,

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Speaker 1: just a play on words. We we are very outspoken

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Speaker 1: on our show. If you've ever seen say Less for

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Speaker 1: anybody out there. We we cover pop culture, but we

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Speaker 1: also get into social issues and we do it unfiltered,

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Speaker 1: we do it with uh with with no no uh.

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Speaker 1: There's there's nobody to tell us what we can and

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Speaker 1: can't set. And that's what you get with TCP and

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Speaker 1: you won't get on regular news, a regular TV like.

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Speaker 1: We don't have nobody telling us we can't say this

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01:46:26,600 --> 01:46:31,200
Speaker 1: and we can't say that. So we ok because nobody else. Okay,

1894
01:46:31,360 --> 01:46:35,160
Speaker 1: say less, I'm against, don't say let's I'm on the show. Okay,

1895
01:46:35,240 --> 01:46:36,920
Speaker 1: let's talk about some of the topic, because you know,

1896
01:46:37,000 --> 01:46:39,439
Speaker 1: that's what money making conversation is. It's a conversation about

1897
01:46:39,439 --> 01:46:41,920
Speaker 1: the community. It allows you to have a void like

1898
01:46:42,040 --> 01:46:45,120
Speaker 1: I got. You know, I've got special guest Marquis over here,

1899
01:46:45,200 --> 01:46:47,679
Speaker 1: you know, and I'm just stumbling at the opponent show.

1900
01:46:47,920 --> 01:46:49,599
Speaker 1: Hit me with a couple of topics so I can

1901
01:46:49,720 --> 01:46:53,880
Speaker 1: join in, come on with you. Okay. Well, yesterday we

1902
01:46:54,200 --> 01:46:57,519
Speaker 1: we didn't say less and I started talking about colorism. Okay.

1903
01:46:57,600 --> 01:47:00,439
Speaker 1: So because there was a conversation on one day to

1904
01:47:00,520 --> 01:47:03,560
Speaker 1: Miami where Jim Brown had checked you're not checked. But

1905
01:47:03,600 --> 01:47:05,960
Speaker 1: he was speaking to Malcolm lex and he asked, why

1906
01:47:06,080 --> 01:47:08,920
Speaker 1: was he so militant? Uh? What was he militant? Didn't

1907
01:47:08,960 --> 01:47:11,280
Speaker 1: have to do. But because he was like skined Um,

1908
01:47:11,600 --> 01:47:15,599
Speaker 1: and I think colorism, I know colorism still exists today.

1909
01:47:15,880 --> 01:47:20,760
Speaker 1: Has colorism affected chewing anyway? Now? I would say that

1910
01:47:21,400 --> 01:47:23,760
Speaker 1: because I'm a black man. Anytime I walk in the room,

1911
01:47:24,360 --> 01:47:27,120
Speaker 1: I've lost I've lost my competitive edge because you know

1912
01:47:27,160 --> 01:47:29,560
Speaker 1: who I am. Okay, that's where white people don't have

1913
01:47:29,600 --> 01:47:31,680
Speaker 1: to deal with colorism, you know, now have to deal

1914
01:47:31,760 --> 01:47:34,200
Speaker 1: with being a different shade. I don't know if they

1915
01:47:34,200 --> 01:47:35,880
Speaker 1: are tag you. I don't know if they Jewish, I

1916
01:47:35,920 --> 01:47:38,120
Speaker 1: don't know if they Greek. You know, in some situations,

1917
01:47:38,120 --> 01:47:39,760
Speaker 1: I might not even know that you are from a

1918
01:47:39,840 --> 01:47:44,120
Speaker 1: Latin American country. So colorism just taking it out of

1919
01:47:44,240 --> 01:47:47,639
Speaker 1: the African American community, which we know exists there as well.

1920
01:47:48,120 --> 01:47:51,040
Speaker 1: But from a global perspective, I I am at a

1921
01:47:51,160 --> 01:47:54,599
Speaker 1: loss because you know my eights. I can't play a game.

1922
01:47:54,920 --> 01:47:58,000
Speaker 1: I can't play in the shadow of me being somebody

1923
01:47:58,080 --> 01:47:59,800
Speaker 1: else are coming from a different culture because you know,

1924
01:48:00,080 --> 01:48:04,160
Speaker 1: or a fact, I'm either African or Black, and so

1925
01:48:04,720 --> 01:48:06,599
Speaker 1: looking at who I am, you're probably gonna say he's

1926
01:48:06,600 --> 01:48:09,280
Speaker 1: a black guy. So from a colorism has always played

1927
01:48:09,320 --> 01:48:12,320
Speaker 1: a game in my life, but I haven't let it

1928
01:48:12,400 --> 01:48:15,040
Speaker 1: stop me because I've realized that's the hand I've been

1929
01:48:15,080 --> 01:48:18,400
Speaker 1: dealt with. And so with that being said, I always

1930
01:48:18,439 --> 01:48:22,519
Speaker 1: tell people, we might tell people, you know, racism does exist,

1931
01:48:22,800 --> 01:48:26,840
Speaker 1: so it's your your purpose to get in the sightline

1932
01:48:26,840 --> 01:48:29,880
Speaker 1: of the decision makers. I always tell people decisions are

1933
01:48:29,880 --> 01:48:32,840
Speaker 1: always made when people are looking forward. People never look

1934
01:48:32,880 --> 01:48:34,960
Speaker 1: back to make a decision. They never do. They never

1935
01:48:35,000 --> 01:48:38,200
Speaker 1: turned around. Go oh, let me see who's behind me. Oh, Bill,

1936
01:48:38,880 --> 01:48:40,600
Speaker 1: I want you to come back here. They make a

1937
01:48:40,680 --> 01:48:43,920
Speaker 1: decision looking fraud left the right. And so that's how

1938
01:48:43,960 --> 01:48:46,559
Speaker 1: I see what your brand TCP. You know, you guys

1939
01:48:46,640 --> 01:48:49,479
Speaker 1: are in front of the decision makers. Now who are

1940
01:48:49,520 --> 01:48:52,800
Speaker 1: the decision makers the viewers? And so so when you

1941
01:48:52,880 --> 01:48:56,599
Speaker 1: ask me about my color, I always tell people, look,

1942
01:48:56,960 --> 01:48:59,800
Speaker 1: I deal with it, but my job is to be

1943
01:49:00,000 --> 01:49:02,000
Speaker 1: in front of the decision makers. And as long as

1944
01:49:02,040 --> 01:49:03,600
Speaker 1: I can stand in front of the decision makers, I

1945
01:49:03,680 --> 01:49:05,920
Speaker 1: have an edge and I'm not gonna let that beat

1946
01:49:05,960 --> 01:49:08,519
Speaker 1: me down. And that's how I've been able to stay

1947
01:49:08,520 --> 01:49:15,439
Speaker 1: ahead of the curve. I hear that, that alright, because

1948
01:49:15,479 --> 01:49:22,640
Speaker 1: I come on you, I love well, you know, but

1949
01:49:22,800 --> 01:49:25,639
Speaker 1: but that's why that's why when I when I reached

1950
01:49:25,680 --> 01:49:27,320
Speaker 1: out to you guys because I saw an article on

1951
01:49:27,479 --> 01:49:29,960
Speaker 1: you and I went, you know, we all got to

1952
01:49:30,040 --> 01:49:32,479
Speaker 1: have a plane. You know, everybody has this theory because

1953
01:49:32,840 --> 01:49:35,080
Speaker 1: you know, I grew up on BT like we all did.

1954
01:49:35,479 --> 01:49:38,479
Speaker 1: And BT started out with music videos and then they

1955
01:49:38,560 --> 01:49:41,400
Speaker 1: started you know, my boy Ed Gordon was the was

1956
01:49:41,439 --> 01:49:43,200
Speaker 1: the you know, it was the black voice of news.

1957
01:49:43,720 --> 01:49:45,560
Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden, BT kind of like

1958
01:49:45,680 --> 01:49:49,360
Speaker 1: went away. They stopped serving the public for for they

1959
01:49:49,439 --> 01:49:52,880
Speaker 1: never would. They never did um do it yourself shows,

1960
01:49:53,360 --> 01:49:56,519
Speaker 1: They never did cooking shows. You see owners trying to

1961
01:49:56,560 --> 01:49:59,559
Speaker 1: go in that direction. So black people have always been

1962
01:50:00,439 --> 01:50:03,439
Speaker 1: uh cater to like, you know, we want action, we

1963
01:50:03,560 --> 01:50:07,680
Speaker 1: want a comedy, and uh you want music in the

1964
01:50:07,880 --> 01:50:11,040
Speaker 1: entertainment world, especially in the television of the streaming medium.

1965
01:50:11,280 --> 01:50:12,960
Speaker 1: So that's why I'm happy to see what you guys

1966
01:50:13,080 --> 01:50:16,439
Speaker 1: doing because when I see hip hop and politics, King's Court,

1967
01:50:16,520 --> 01:50:19,400
Speaker 1: Boss Talk, sit Down with the Johnson's, you know, say

1968
01:50:19,520 --> 01:50:23,000
Speaker 1: less opinionated facts. These are shows that I've been waiting

1969
01:50:23,120 --> 01:50:27,479
Speaker 1: for because of streaming networks and and innovative gentlemen like

1970
01:50:27,600 --> 01:50:30,880
Speaker 1: you allowed me and my family and my friends and

1971
01:50:31,040 --> 01:50:34,000
Speaker 1: people of color to say, guess what we can participate

1972
01:50:34,320 --> 01:50:40,000
Speaker 1: absolutely and and and that's really what what helped build CCP. UM.

1973
01:50:40,280 --> 01:50:44,920
Speaker 1: We we built this thing off of uh Facebook, off

1974
01:50:44,960 --> 01:50:48,200
Speaker 1: of Facebook line. Uh So, so it was that that

1975
01:50:48,400 --> 01:50:54,080
Speaker 1: audience participation. UM. It was it was active active TV

1976
01:50:54,240 --> 01:50:58,040
Speaker 1: watching UM where where as a viewer, UM, you're not

1977
01:50:58,200 --> 01:51:01,240
Speaker 1: only watching the content, but you can be a part

1978
01:51:01,280 --> 01:51:06,040
Speaker 1: of the conversation. And and really helped control the flow

1979
01:51:06,360 --> 01:51:10,200
Speaker 1: of the conversation to a degree. UM and UM, and

1980
01:51:10,720 --> 01:51:16,360
Speaker 1: especially over the pandemic, UM when when everything shut down, Uh,

1981
01:51:16,560 --> 01:51:21,679
Speaker 1: that's when we really experienced a a explosion because everybody

1982
01:51:21,800 --> 01:51:26,479
Speaker 1: was at home. UM, everybody was just scrolling through their phone. UM.

1983
01:51:26,640 --> 01:51:29,360
Speaker 1: So what we said, UM, we had to move on

1984
01:51:29,880 --> 01:51:32,160
Speaker 1: from the studio that we were at UM at that

1985
01:51:32,360 --> 01:51:36,200
Speaker 1: time because of COVID, and we said, all right, well look, UM,

1986
01:51:36,360 --> 01:51:40,160
Speaker 1: we're just gonna do this from my garage. UM, and

1987
01:51:40,280 --> 01:51:43,840
Speaker 1: we're just going to broadcast from my garage. And and

1988
01:51:44,040 --> 01:51:49,360
Speaker 1: for about four months, UM in the pandemic, we broadcasted

1989
01:51:49,520 --> 01:51:53,000
Speaker 1: from my garage. We did it it up um a

1990
01:51:53,120 --> 01:51:56,400
Speaker 1: little bit. UM. But during that time, again, people were

1991
01:51:56,479 --> 01:52:00,400
Speaker 1: just scrolling and scrolling and scrolling and just were being

1992
01:52:00,800 --> 01:52:04,800
Speaker 1: and and really enjoying our content. Um and and then

1993
01:52:04,880 --> 01:52:07,960
Speaker 1: with that the protests over the summer came UM and

1994
01:52:08,160 --> 01:52:11,760
Speaker 1: and that's when we we witnessed another search because we

1995
01:52:11,880 --> 01:52:15,080
Speaker 1: were we were right in the thick of things, UM,

1996
01:52:15,280 --> 01:52:19,040
Speaker 1: getting getting the real stories, getting the real reactions of

1997
01:52:19,160 --> 01:52:23,439
Speaker 1: the people. UM. We we went to places where other

1998
01:52:24,000 --> 01:52:27,680
Speaker 1: other journalists UM may have been a bit fearful. UM.

1999
01:52:27,800 --> 01:52:32,040
Speaker 1: But because we shared the same personal story UM of

2000
01:52:32,280 --> 01:52:35,920
Speaker 1: other people that were protesting, we had access to places

2001
01:52:36,080 --> 01:52:38,880
Speaker 1: and people during that time that really have helped us

2002
01:52:39,320 --> 01:52:43,639
Speaker 1: tell tell the story UM. And and that's where people

2003
01:52:43,880 --> 01:52:48,200
Speaker 1: began to really see the the effect and the reason

2004
01:52:48,320 --> 01:52:55,679
Speaker 1: why we exist cool we to UH. We were all down.

2005
01:52:56,000 --> 01:52:58,639
Speaker 1: It was terrible, but it was a lot to talk about,

2006
01:52:59,160 --> 01:53:02,519
Speaker 1: and that makes for great content. So we spoke about it.

2007
01:53:03,520 --> 01:53:05,800
Speaker 1: When you say we say terrible, you're talking about the

2008
01:53:05,960 --> 01:53:08,759
Speaker 1: George Floyd or the loss of life from COVID because

2009
01:53:08,800 --> 01:53:12,600
Speaker 1: it was just overtly affected. People of color were the

2010
01:53:12,720 --> 01:53:17,960
Speaker 1: terrible part about the conversation. All of the above. COVID

2011
01:53:18,080 --> 01:53:22,320
Speaker 1: hit and UM. We we never stopped working, so we

2012
01:53:22,600 --> 01:53:25,680
Speaker 1: was they saw in real time. Our reaction was like

2013
01:53:25,840 --> 01:53:28,400
Speaker 1: their reaction, like we we had no idea what we

2014
01:53:28,479 --> 01:53:30,719
Speaker 1: were going through. Like it was. It was a scary time.

2015
01:53:31,200 --> 01:53:34,599
Speaker 1: And then during that time, the George Floyd thing happened,

2016
01:53:34,680 --> 01:53:38,000
Speaker 1: and all over the country, including our city, there were

2017
01:53:38,120 --> 01:53:41,360
Speaker 1: there were protests everywhere and we were on the front lines.

2018
01:53:41,439 --> 01:53:44,120
Speaker 1: We were at the protests, we were covering these things.

2019
01:53:44,439 --> 01:53:47,040
Speaker 1: And during these protests, a young man was killed by

2020
01:53:47,120 --> 01:53:49,120
Speaker 1: police in our very city and we were first on

2021
01:53:49,240 --> 01:53:52,080
Speaker 1: the scene to cover that. So like all of these things, like,

2022
01:53:52,240 --> 01:53:54,280
Speaker 1: we were there, we were, we were in the mix.

2023
01:53:54,360 --> 01:53:58,280
Speaker 1: We were in d c for for for that march.

2024
01:53:59,200 --> 01:54:02,680
Speaker 1: They on our next march. We were there, like we

2025
01:54:02,880 --> 01:54:08,200
Speaker 1: were everywhere during this year. UM, when it was just

2026
01:54:08,400 --> 01:54:10,559
Speaker 1: rough for people, we were, we were, we were working

2027
01:54:11,520 --> 01:54:16,080
Speaker 1: you know VICE UH programming and which I'm a big

2028
01:54:16,120 --> 01:54:18,479
Speaker 1: fan of, and it it feels very much that you

2029
01:54:18,560 --> 01:54:23,680
Speaker 1: guys are doing VICE, which is organic, authentic programming that

2030
01:54:23,880 --> 01:54:29,120
Speaker 1: feels gritty and UH from from our on the original

2031
01:54:29,200 --> 01:54:32,160
Speaker 1: point of view, am I closer saying the style of

2032
01:54:32,240 --> 01:54:33,920
Speaker 1: program that you guys are trying to bring to the

2033
01:54:34,120 --> 01:54:38,480
Speaker 1: to the people of color community. UM. I would say

2034
01:54:38,560 --> 01:54:43,240
Speaker 1: that we're a mix between UM VICE and UM and

2035
01:54:43,440 --> 01:54:48,080
Speaker 1: T Y T on the Young Turvis UM. But we're

2036
01:54:48,560 --> 01:54:51,520
Speaker 1: we're just mellanated. You know, this is mellanated media, like

2037
01:54:51,640 --> 01:54:54,520
Speaker 1: we like to say, you know, now we got this

2038
01:54:54,640 --> 01:54:59,240
Speaker 1: tea programs. You know, I'm gonna take it this way.

2039
01:54:59,240 --> 01:55:01,040
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take this away. You know, when I look

2040
01:55:01,080 --> 01:55:03,680
Speaker 1: at Boss Talk and I look at King's Chord and

2041
01:55:03,800 --> 01:55:06,360
Speaker 1: hip hop and politics, you know, that to me is

2042
01:55:06,880 --> 01:55:09,240
Speaker 1: I'm not seeing that nowhere else. So that's important to

2043
01:55:09,320 --> 01:55:11,240
Speaker 1: hear that because I can't hear that on the radio.

2044
01:55:11,960 --> 01:55:14,520
Speaker 1: I can't hear that on Serious x M, even though

2045
01:55:14,560 --> 01:55:16,920
Speaker 1: they say that's what they do. You know, you know

2046
01:55:17,040 --> 01:55:20,200
Speaker 1: they you know they they've they've had the same people

2047
01:55:20,720 --> 01:55:23,320
Speaker 1: do the host the same shows for the last ten years.

2048
01:55:23,360 --> 01:55:26,440
Speaker 1: And that's serious talk. And if you go to the

2049
01:55:27,040 --> 01:55:31,160
Speaker 1: to the HBC used, they're over there inundated by jazz

2050
01:55:31,200 --> 01:55:34,040
Speaker 1: stations and adult program It really is crazy to me

2051
01:55:34,120 --> 01:55:36,920
Speaker 1: when I go to college stations and I go, who

2052
01:55:36,920 --> 01:55:40,320
Speaker 1: are they trying to? The listeners fitting up? And so

2053
01:55:40,760 --> 01:55:43,280
Speaker 1: that means they missed the whole voice of what I

2054
01:55:43,400 --> 01:55:46,160
Speaker 1: think these schools are supposed to be at tuned into.

2055
01:55:46,680 --> 01:55:49,120
Speaker 1: And so so when I listened what you guys are doing,

2056
01:55:49,440 --> 01:55:52,400
Speaker 1: it feels like I'm hitting the millennial generation. Weally much

2057
01:55:52,480 --> 01:55:56,440
Speaker 1: that am I wrong in saying that? No, we were

2058
01:55:56,840 --> 01:55:59,880
Speaker 1: we were blessed with the Internet and with the inn

2059
01:56:00,320 --> 01:56:03,360
Speaker 1: we were able to cut out the the middleman and

2060
01:56:03,800 --> 01:56:07,120
Speaker 1: give it to the people's straight, no filter, and and

2061
01:56:07,280 --> 01:56:09,160
Speaker 1: that's what we try to do. It. We're gonna hit

2062
01:56:09,160 --> 01:56:11,760
Speaker 1: her from all angles using the technology that we had

2063
01:56:12,160 --> 01:56:14,640
Speaker 1: and the technology that we've had when we started to

2064
01:56:14,760 --> 01:56:18,240
Speaker 1: the technology that we have now has allowed us to

2065
01:56:18,400 --> 01:56:20,240
Speaker 1: be capable of doing things that we wouldn't even have

2066
01:56:20,320 --> 01:56:23,080
Speaker 1: dreamed about in the beginning. And so so it's moving

2067
01:56:23,120 --> 01:56:26,360
Speaker 1: at a rapid pace. And yeah, that's that's exactly what

2068
01:56:26,400 --> 01:56:29,720
Speaker 1: we're gonna do, is take complete advantage of every media

2069
01:56:29,800 --> 01:56:32,240
Speaker 1: platform that we can. Now here's a funny part. Now

2070
01:56:32,560 --> 01:56:35,160
Speaker 1: makes you know you said you started on Facebook Live.

2071
01:56:35,560 --> 01:56:38,840
Speaker 1: So I my deal impression to y'all. Y'all were like

2072
01:56:38,920 --> 01:56:43,560
Speaker 1: out there. Yeah, it was raw, it was unpredictable. Uh,

2073
01:56:43,720 --> 01:56:48,160
Speaker 1: it was learning on the on the fly. People people

2074
01:56:48,240 --> 01:56:52,320
Speaker 1: comment and you're dropping some information accurate, but it was

2075
01:56:52,400 --> 01:56:56,040
Speaker 1: from the heart. Talk about those earliest early years of

2076
01:56:56,200 --> 01:57:01,560
Speaker 1: lunch of the network. Then so um so we we

2077
01:57:01,680 --> 01:57:07,000
Speaker 1: started um in in a community center, um In in

2078
01:57:07,160 --> 01:57:12,600
Speaker 1: a um studio that wasn't used for ten years. UM,

2079
01:57:13,200 --> 01:57:18,240
Speaker 1: so there was. There was just terrible, terrible, terrible reception.

2080
01:57:19,120 --> 01:57:25,080
Speaker 1: UM no ventilation. Uh. And and we had to hold

2081
01:57:25,120 --> 01:57:28,760
Speaker 1: our phones so like we we would have to hold

2082
01:57:28,800 --> 01:57:32,080
Speaker 1: the phone for an hour, you know, seventy five minutes,

2083
01:57:32,120 --> 01:57:34,960
Speaker 1: ninety minutes, however long the show was, and our arm

2084
01:57:35,480 --> 01:57:38,240
Speaker 1: was a tripod and like, UM coming up that was

2085
01:57:38,240 --> 01:57:40,560
Speaker 1: like a money joke, uh tc p t C p

2086
01:57:41,280 --> 01:57:43,520
Speaker 1: uh they'll have you hold the phone. They'll have you

2087
01:57:43,560 --> 01:57:46,320
Speaker 1: hold the phone for an hour, you know. So so

2088
01:57:46,520 --> 01:57:50,320
Speaker 1: that was really like, UM, that was a humbling Uh.

2089
01:57:50,600 --> 01:57:53,920
Speaker 1: It was very very humbling. And then UM and then

2090
01:57:54,120 --> 01:57:58,280
Speaker 1: at times when the community center was closed, you know,

2091
01:57:58,440 --> 01:58:01,280
Speaker 1: we had to figure out ways to still put on

2092
01:58:01,400 --> 01:58:05,120
Speaker 1: the show and everything because we wanted to be consistent

2093
01:58:05,520 --> 01:58:10,000
Speaker 1: with this um our start is what really is our

2094
01:58:10,080 --> 01:58:15,000
Speaker 1: strong foundation, because we really leaned on one another um

2095
01:58:15,440 --> 01:58:18,240
Speaker 1: at the beginning. And and and now we can share

2096
01:58:18,280 --> 01:58:21,080
Speaker 1: those stories now like oh we got a studio now.

2097
01:58:21,880 --> 01:58:25,800
Speaker 1: But at the beginning, UM, I remember when we were

2098
01:58:26,320 --> 01:58:30,000
Speaker 1: running off of one LFE you know, UM, when we

2099
01:58:30,120 --> 01:58:34,000
Speaker 1: were all sweating in the studio, those signs were very humbling.

2100
01:58:34,520 --> 01:58:36,640
Speaker 1: Don't they lock us out? The building and we can't

2101
01:58:36,680 --> 01:58:43,000
Speaker 1: get in. But you and not your Roku, your Roku challenge.

2102
01:58:43,040 --> 01:58:46,160
Speaker 1: You know, it's like it's like it's like, don't let

2103
01:58:46,520 --> 01:58:48,080
Speaker 1: when I when I hear your story and I read

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