1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: This is the Benn and Ashley I almost famous podcast 2 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:06,920 Speaker 1: with our radio. Well, actually, I promise you a very 3 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:10,400 Speaker 1: special mini episode with a guest that could carry a 4 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:13,399 Speaker 1: mini episode. And here she is. Hey, Ashley, how you doing? 5 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 1: Are you being silly? Hello? Are our special guest is 6 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:21,400 Speaker 1: right here in the room listening to you be silly? 7 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 1: It is Connor, Connor Brennan. He's on the line and 8 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:29,320 Speaker 1: he's here to chat with us. Uh. This man has 9 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 1: been a prominent figure in Bachelor Nation for the past 10 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 1: two to three months. Connor, how are you doing? I'm great. 11 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:40,479 Speaker 1: It's pretty crazy to be called prominent by by Ashley. 12 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:43,839 Speaker 1: I wow. Does that mean that you've been a fan 13 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:45,839 Speaker 1: of the show for a while. Yes, I know who 14 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 1: you are. So hi you guys. I'm seeking out a 15 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 1: little bit. It's great to meet you that. Okay, that's 16 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 1: so sweet. So okay, you're one of the people that 17 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 1: are fans going into it, so that's always fun. Did 18 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 1: you end up yourself or did somebody sign you up? No? 19 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:05,560 Speaker 1: I had a friend to nominate me last summer, not 20 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 1: like as a joke, but I always I was like, 21 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 1: there's no way I'm gonna get on the show, Like 22 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 1: blah blah blah uh and then it ended up happening 23 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 1: and then pretty crazy, you're also I believe you're Carly 24 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:21,759 Speaker 1: wood els Um route her nanny's roomate. Is that right? 25 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:24,479 Speaker 1: That's right, And that is completely unrelated how that happened. 26 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 1: And it was right around the same time that I 27 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:30,319 Speaker 1: was interviewing to be on Bachelorette, my roommate was interviewing 28 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 1: to be Carly wood els nanny and so like right 29 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 1: around when I left for bachelorat that's when that happened. 30 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 1: Have you ever met her any advice? Yeah, she gave 31 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 1: me a little bit advice about paradise, which was cool. 32 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 1: Basically just that it's good to be on the beach 33 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 1: the first day, not like coming late, which I think 34 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 1: it was pretty good advice. It's it's interesting connor Um. 35 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 1: You know, in today's world a Bachelor like back in 36 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 1: the day, like cast members came off and had like 37 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 1: careers based on the show and nowadays you don't see 38 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 1: it as much. But you've really stood out, like you've 39 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:08,359 Speaker 1: you've became a character that people recognized, they know and 40 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 1: and really from the get co of your time on 41 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 1: the Bachtlarette, like you made a name for yourself and 42 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 1: H the confidence was something that was always appealing or 43 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:20,920 Speaker 1: not even appealing. I guess it was just like something 44 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 1: made you stand out. We're gonna get into that because 45 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 1: I said on episode UH that we came out with 46 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 1: this UH to break down Paradise. Your confidence seems to 47 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 1: be waning during Paradise less than on the bat and 48 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:36,240 Speaker 1: I want to know why. But let's start the beginning 49 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 1: for you. We love to talk to like where did 50 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:42,240 Speaker 1: you grow up? Um? What was your childhood? Like, let's 51 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:43,960 Speaker 1: let's get into it. I was hoping you to ask 52 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 1: how my childhood. Uh. So I grew up in Columbia, Illinois, 53 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 1: right near St. Louis. UM had my family is incredible, 54 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 1: So I had a pretty amazing childhood, very music based. 55 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:56,960 Speaker 1: You know. I've started playing piano when I was six 56 00:02:57,000 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 1: years old. My dad's a violinist as well, so I 57 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:04,080 Speaker 1: have a tattoo of a violin here for him. And 58 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 1: he always wanted to take piano lessons when he was 59 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 1: a kid, but he had nine brothers and sisters so 60 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 1: his family couldn't afford it, so he had me take 61 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 1: panel lessons instead. Um. I worked out pretty well. So 62 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:17,920 Speaker 1: just a musical family, always playing songs, always singing. Uh, 63 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 1: and yeah, really really great childhood. You seem like really 64 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 1: a left brainer between music and then you have a 65 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 1: master's degree in medical physics, and then your resume includes 66 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 1: nuclear engineer at some point. Yeah. So I was a 67 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 1: radioactive materials inspector for the state of Wisconsin, which was 68 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 1: pretty wild. And then you transitioned to to eighth grade 69 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 1: math teacher. Yeah, I just kind of stumbled into that. 70 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 1: I've been a math tutor my whole life because I 71 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 1: love math, and I love kids, and I love teaching math. Um. 72 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 1: And so I was working for a tutoring company here 73 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 1: in Nashville and then just found out that, uh, kind 74 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 1: of a friend of theirs needed a full time math teacher. 75 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 1: And I was like, let's go to try Why not? 76 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 1: What what high school are you teaching that? Or middle school? 77 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 1: It was Templeton Academy in Nashville, so like a small 78 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 1: private middle school in high school downtown. I spent a 79 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:16,920 Speaker 1: lot of time in Nashville. My fiance's from Franklin. So um. 80 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:19,720 Speaker 1: But you know, you seem like like kind of a 81 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 1: renaissance man, like you're up to a lot. Like I 82 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 1: feel like the more like you're one of those dudes 83 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 1: that we go and grab a beer and I just 84 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:28,600 Speaker 1: want to sit there for two hours and here about 85 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 1: all the things you've done with your life. Um, what 86 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:35,279 Speaker 1: do you at this point? Now? What do you feel 87 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:37,679 Speaker 1: like your path is? Like? Where do you like really 88 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 1: investing into That's a great question. Uh yeah, I don't know, 89 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 1: because there's there's so many different things I have interested in. 90 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 1: Like I obviously love music and I'm passionate about it, 91 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:51,840 Speaker 1: but I'm also passionate about math and physics and nucle engineering. 92 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:53,920 Speaker 1: So right now I'm probably I don't think I'm gonna 93 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 1: go back into teaching. I did it for a year 94 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 1: and it was It's a hard job, especially in the pandemic. 95 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 1: Was a really tough job. Uh um. And so I 96 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 1: think I might try to get back into nuclear engineering 97 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 1: or look into like some medical sales type thing where 98 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:10,720 Speaker 1: I can use like my medical physics degree. But then always, always, 99 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:12,720 Speaker 1: music will be a part of my life obviously in 100 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:14,840 Speaker 1: one form or another. I feel like you could really 101 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 1: woo the ladies saying that you're into nuclear engineering. I'm 102 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 1: not even I'm not being sarcastic, like, yeah, that sounds 103 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:28,280 Speaker 1: so smart. That's like a real fancy job. Okay, all right, 104 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:30,599 Speaker 1: keep that I would I wouldn't throw that out there 105 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:33,040 Speaker 1: more often. All right, maybe I should be leading with 106 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:37,919 Speaker 1: that I was a nuclear engineer. Sure. Okay. So you 107 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:40,279 Speaker 1: get signed up to be on the Bachelor by a 108 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 1: friend of the bachelorette and then you show up in 109 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:46,479 Speaker 1: a cat costume. And we've been saying multiple times in 110 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:49,680 Speaker 1: this podcast that you had your finest moment in the 111 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 1: cat costume and I feel like the strongest chemistry you 112 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:56,039 Speaker 1: ever had with Katie in it. What did it have 113 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 1: magical powers? Did you feel like you had like a 114 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 1: like a song on on it was? You know, maybe 115 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:04,160 Speaker 1: it was the fact that I, uh yeah, it had 116 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 1: magical powers and I got to kind of hide a 117 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 1: little bit in the cat suit. It just, uh I 118 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 1: came out guns blazing, and when you're in a cat suit, 119 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 1: you can either you know, be full confidence and go 120 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 1: for it or you know, kind of hide. And I 121 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 1: went full confidence with it. Uh yeah. But I think 122 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:23,839 Speaker 1: that that probably was one of our best nights, was 123 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 1: was me and the cats. It was just it was 124 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 1: a lot of fun. We were both cracking up um 125 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 1: and it was just funny and that that was the 126 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 1: goal of it. It wasn't It wasn't supposed to be like, hey, 127 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:33,280 Speaker 1: look at me, I'm in a cat suit. It was 128 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 1: just I hope Katie laughs. I just wanted to make 129 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 1: her laugh. Basically, you, if you were to describe yourself, 130 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:43,920 Speaker 1: You're you're hard dude to figure out. I'll be honest, 131 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 1: We're gonna get that in a bit. And I think 132 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:49,279 Speaker 1: it's like a compliment, like I would take it and 133 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 1: I say that with like, um, you're you're obviously very intelligent, 134 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 1: you're good looking, you're musically talented. Um, you show up 135 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:02,920 Speaker 1: in a have to which I could say all those things, 136 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 1: it also could say the opposite of all those things, 137 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 1: you never know. Um, how do you describe yourself? Wow, 138 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:13,680 Speaker 1: that's a great question. I so if I had to 139 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 1: describe myself, I would say that I one thing I 140 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 1: pride myself on, especially on this show, was being very genuine. Um. 141 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 1: And you you you know, you hear people saying like, Oh, 142 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 1: this person so and so is here for the wrong reasons, 143 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 1: blah blah blah. I came on in my goal. I 144 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 1: wanted to fall in love. That's why I went on 145 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 1: the show. That's why I want on both shows, and 146 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 1: I wanted to be the fullest version of myself and 147 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 1: I did that. I showed up. I brought my whole self, 148 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 1: my goofy, music, fun, loving whatever self. Um So, I 149 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 1: think I would like to say them genuine is one 150 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 1: thing you can say about me. Uh yeah, you got 151 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 1: a little annoyed this week or so we here in 152 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 1: our hot topics when Lance Bass said on Nick Nick's 153 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 1: podcast that you perhaps were there for a music career. Yeah, 154 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 1: come on, Lance Bass. Um So, I was annoyed with 155 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 1: Lance Bass for saying that because I love Lance Bass 156 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 1: and I was so excited to meet him, and we 157 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 1: had like some really good conversation and we were really friendly. 158 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 1: Um and I was just like kind of in all 159 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 1: of him obviously. And then as I remember it, all 160 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 1: the guys were kind of standing there from Katie season 161 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 1: because none of us had seen any of the episodes, 162 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 1: and of course we're like, what happened? Like, we showed up, 163 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 1: We lived this crazy experience, you know, we had all 164 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:32,560 Speaker 1: these emotions, and now we want to know what are 165 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:34,320 Speaker 1: they showing? Like what do we look like on TV? 166 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 1: So I think all of us were kind of asking 167 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:37,960 Speaker 1: questions about the show, and then I was like, oh, 168 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 1: did my song make it? Because I wanted to know 169 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 1: if I was on the show at all. I didn't 170 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 1: even know if I was going to show up on 171 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 1: TV at all um, And so it wasn't like, hey, 172 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 1: I want to start a music career. It was just 173 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:54,200 Speaker 1: I was genuinely interested if they showed my song or not. Um. 174 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 1: And so it was, Yeah, I was really worried going 175 00:08:57,040 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 1: onto both shows. We'll really just bachelor atte that people 176 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:01,960 Speaker 1: are gonna say, oh, he's here for their own reasons, 177 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 1: he's here for a music career, blah blah blah. Because 178 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 1: you've just seen that so many times that people say that, 179 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:09,200 Speaker 1: and so I am sensitive about that. And that's why 180 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:11,719 Speaker 1: having one of your heroes say it, it's just like 181 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 1: it's a bummer. You know. It definitely stung coming from him. 182 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 1: But the cool thing is all the people coming out 183 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:22,200 Speaker 1: of the woodworks to defend me and being like Connor 184 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:23,840 Speaker 1: is one of the most genuine people I've ever met. 185 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:26,600 Speaker 1: Like his music was great. It wasn't just me walking 186 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:29,320 Speaker 1: around being the annoying asshole with an instrument. It was 187 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 1: you know, I want people to sing along. I want 188 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:33,839 Speaker 1: people to have fun. That's why I play music to 189 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 1: bring people together, not to show off and be like, hey, 190 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 1: look at me, I'm a musician. It's to make people 191 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 1: laugh and that's why I play music. Um. And so 192 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 1: it was cool to see a lot of people from 193 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:46,679 Speaker 1: my season, a lot of people from Bachelor in Paradise 194 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 1: and a lot of strangers just come out and say, um, yeah, no, 195 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 1: he wasn't there for that reason. He was there too, 196 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:54,679 Speaker 1: you know, fall in love and if he played songs, 197 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 1: that's just part of who he is. Yeah, it's Uh. 198 00:09:58,040 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 1: I want to talk to you about some of them 199 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 1: for a second, because I lee Thomas's storyline is one 200 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 1: that's being highlighted. And um, it feels very quick these days, 201 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:10,440 Speaker 1: how a narrative can get created, you know. So we've 202 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 1: watched this as fans and seen uh and I want 203 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:14,320 Speaker 1: your inside. I thought you'd be a guy that talks 204 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:16,959 Speaker 1: about it. Where like Thomas shows up the bach thread 205 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 1: and we're like, hey, he wants to be the Bachelor, Like, well, 206 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 1: who doesn't, um, And it seems like everybody at least 207 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 1: knows that's in the back of their head. And he 208 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 1: goes on Paradise, he walks down the beach and like 209 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:31,320 Speaker 1: right away, you know, the sharks attack and he's you know, 210 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 1: pushed aside and uh and kind of defined by the 211 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 1: narrative that he had from the show. And you've now 212 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 1: experienced how quickly this narrative we created, Like you see 213 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:44,320 Speaker 1: how dangerous that can be for for Thomas. Even this 214 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:46,199 Speaker 1: week you said something like, Hey, I don't trust anything 215 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 1: comes out that guy's mouth. What is it that we 216 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 1: aren't seeing? Because if it's just that he wants to 217 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:53,440 Speaker 1: be the Bachelor that's the biggest issue people have with him, 218 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:58,959 Speaker 1: then like I say, yeah, I knew thirty guys like that, Um, 219 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 1: so what is it that we're not them that that 220 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 1: the bachelor thing was never the biggest issue, Like that 221 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 1: was just kind of a small part of it. So 222 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:12,320 Speaker 1: what else say is that I pride myself on being 223 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 1: a very genuine person, and what I get from Thomas, 224 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 1: at least on the show was that I couldn't figure 225 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:20,839 Speaker 1: out who he genuinely was a lot of times it 226 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:23,200 Speaker 1: felt like he was saying what people wanted to hear, 227 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:26,600 Speaker 1: and a lot of times we he would just lie, 228 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 1: like we called him in some direct lies. And so 229 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:32,719 Speaker 1: that's where it really graded on me, because the one 230 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 1: thing I ask from people is just like, be yourself. 231 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:40,200 Speaker 1: Be genuine. If you're an asshole, be that. Don't hide anything, 232 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:42,560 Speaker 1: you know, just show up as yourself. I could never 233 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:45,240 Speaker 1: figure out who Thomas actually was, and so I was 234 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:47,080 Speaker 1: going to try to give him another chance on Bachelor 235 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:49,560 Speaker 1: in Paradise, but he kind of just showed up and 236 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:51,559 Speaker 1: did the same sort of thing, right. I just did 237 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:56,960 Speaker 1: not feel any genuine nous from him. So I definitely 238 00:11:57,000 --> 00:11:58,600 Speaker 1: interested in giving him another chance of meeting him in 239 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:01,680 Speaker 1: real life and talking to him. But yeah, yeah, yeah, 240 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 1: I guess lives are hard to like show, right, It's 241 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:05,840 Speaker 1: hard to trace back on tell them and you show like, 242 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 1: oh you told me this since secret or you told 243 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:10,839 Speaker 1: me this on the side. Now I'm you did that 244 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:13,600 Speaker 1: enough and enough in me that makes more sense. Yeah, 245 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:15,439 Speaker 1: But like Ashy and I are watching this and we're 246 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:17,320 Speaker 1: like we don't know what to get, like what's wrong? 247 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:22,319 Speaker 1: Like why people much? Yeah? He just changes his story 248 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 1: a lot based on who he's with and who he's 249 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:27,199 Speaker 1: talking to. Interesting. Is there anybody else in the Paradise 250 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:32,680 Speaker 1: cast that you feel like is it represented to their 251 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 1: utmost on the show? Um or a storyline that you 252 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 1: feel like a lot of content is missing. Yeah, well, 253 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:43,719 Speaker 1: there's so much that happened and we only get to 254 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 1: see such small parts of it. Especially on Bachelor Paradise. 255 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:49,720 Speaker 1: There's just so much happening every single day. It's crazy 256 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:53,079 Speaker 1: to see what doesn't make it in Weirdly, Um, Carl 257 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 1: for me got a redemption in Bachelor in Paradise because 258 00:12:56,160 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 1: I came in that a little bit on TV. Yeah. 259 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 1: I came in ready to be mad at Carl still 260 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 1: because we left and you know, when he left, I 261 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:06,440 Speaker 1: was all piste off at him. And then we kind 262 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:09,719 Speaker 1: of just sat around and talked with him, and he 263 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:11,680 Speaker 1: became one of the guys with Katie's guys, Like, we 264 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 1: all had some good discussion with him, talked things out. 265 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 1: He was really genuine and honest with us, and I 266 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:18,679 Speaker 1: really started to like the guy a lot. And there 267 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:20,960 Speaker 1: was a moment when I was really sad and I 268 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:23,200 Speaker 1: was just kind of sitting by myself being sad boy 269 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 1: on the beach, playing my guitar song um, and he 270 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 1: came up and sat next to me. You know, there 271 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:28,960 Speaker 1: weren't cameras or anything, was just an off screen moment. 272 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:29,960 Speaker 1: He came up and sat next to me, and it 273 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:32,720 Speaker 1: was just like, hey, play me a song, like I'd 274 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 1: love to hear any song he wrote or something like that. 275 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 1: And we just had this cool little moment where he 276 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 1: wanted to hear a song. We sat and talked and 277 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:42,439 Speaker 1: it was nice. So yeah, sweet, we don't get to 278 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:44,440 Speaker 1: see enough of that. He still comes off to me 279 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:46,320 Speaker 1: as the guy that was on the Bachelor, Like I 280 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 1: like him more, but he's still like m He's definitely 281 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:54,720 Speaker 1: a good fault. So it's good to know, you know 282 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 1: that he had that moment. Now we're gonna get into 283 00:13:57,160 --> 00:13:59,199 Speaker 1: your whole story line of Paradise, and before we do 284 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:01,840 Speaker 1: want to ask you you know, you've obviously had a 285 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:05,560 Speaker 1: very accomplished career. Um, you probably don't have a hard 286 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 1: time dating. You've got thrown into this world now and 287 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:15,079 Speaker 1: you're talking to us, you're talking to Nick or I 288 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 1: don't even know if you're talking. You're just talking to people, um, 289 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 1: all the time now about this show and now you've 290 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 1: experienced Paradise. What do you make of it all? Like, 291 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's gotta be a it's yeah, in 292 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 1: a word, it's pretty surreal, definitely, especially since it all 293 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 1: happened so fast as in you know, Bachelorrette was only 294 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 1: a few months ago, and before I even saw the 295 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 1: outcome of that, I was already on Bachelor Paradise meeting 296 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 1: a bunch of Bachelor people who had seen on TV. 297 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 1: So I was star struck. When I showed up. I 298 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 1: was just like, oh my god, Like, I get to 299 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 1: meet you and you this is so cool. Um, it's 300 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 1: it's crazy, and and a couple of things that I 301 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 1: take away from it, or that every person I met, Uh, 302 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 1: they were so much cooler in real life than on TV. Really, 303 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:07,400 Speaker 1: like everyone's more attractive and cooler in real life. Something 304 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 1: you guys, you guys. The coolest it really is you 305 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 1: meet me in person and you just get a fully 306 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 1: fleshed out version of them rather than just a small, 307 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 1: tiny moment on television. So that's one of my biggest 308 00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 1: takeaways is just like it's it's it's very curated what 309 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 1: you see and it's really cool to meet these people 310 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 1: in real life and realize that, oh they're awesome people, 311 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 1: even more awesome than I would have thought. Now we 312 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:44,200 Speaker 1: see you having a thing with Marissa early on. Was 313 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 1: there anybody else that you were kind of talking to 314 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 1: or we're interested in that. We didn't get to see 315 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 1: you talk with Uh. Yeah. So I went in really 316 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 1: really excited to meet just sen Um. I was, Yeah, 317 00:15:58,480 --> 00:16:00,240 Speaker 1: it talked about her a lot in my interviews and 318 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 1: if you saw my Little Paradise song, I had her 319 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 1: name in the Paradise song um, and so I was 320 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 1: really excited to meet her. And we had a conversation 321 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 1: the first day that was really good. And then she 322 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:12,120 Speaker 1: and I both kind of coupled up pretty quickly, right 323 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 1: like she had Ivan and I had Marissa. I don't 324 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 1: know if they're going to show this or not, but 325 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 1: I actually did end up writing a song for just 326 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 1: Senda because I was really crushing on her, and then 327 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 1: you know, hit it off with Marissa and just sending 328 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 1: hit it off with Ivan. But when things kind of 329 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 1: switched up with Marissa, I still found that I had 330 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 1: some pretty strong feelings for Jasna, and so I wrote 331 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 1: a song and shot my shot in a pretty big way. 332 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 1: And that, you know, there's so many things happened that 333 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 1: that's that doesn't I don't think it makes it into 334 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 1: the cut. But yeah, a little off screen moment. Okay, well, Connor, 335 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 1: like this is not technically a spoiler, because you can 336 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 1: do the math on it, on the dates and all 337 00:16:56,880 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 1: that you kissed that girl in the odd and at 338 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 1: mentell all and you liked it and you asked for 339 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:07,199 Speaker 1: her number, and that was taped in July. So I 340 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:10,639 Speaker 1: just have this inkling that maybe Paradise doesn't go in 341 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:13,320 Speaker 1: the most positive direction for you, like maybe you don't 342 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 1: find love. Did anything happen with that girl because we 343 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:21,160 Speaker 1: did here in the aftermath that she was a hired actress, 344 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:26,920 Speaker 1: so like they're really putting you through the ringer. Well, um, 345 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:29,879 Speaker 1: there's okay. So the hired actress thing. They asked for 346 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:36,439 Speaker 1: volunteers to kiss me and she volunteers, so she was 347 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:38,480 Speaker 1: She was really pretty. So I got her number and 348 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 1: we definitely talked in FaceTime to bid. But you know, 349 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:42,920 Speaker 1: she lives in l A. I live in Nashville, so 350 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 1: I think, uh, for now, we'll probably just be friends. 351 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:50,280 Speaker 1: But she's pretty amazing. I mean, finds love in Paradise, 352 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 1: I would celebrate it. If he doesn't. I'm not worried 353 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:57,400 Speaker 1: about the guy, like at all, Like, uh, he lives 354 00:17:57,400 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 1: in Nashville one and he's going to be the most 355 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:01,960 Speaker 1: popular are do in the US because Nashville is the 356 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:04,719 Speaker 1: bachelorette capital of the world. None of how my buddies 357 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:07,480 Speaker 1: treated it once we got them with our show at Nashville, 358 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 1: I'm not worried about him. Um, thanks, thank you now. 359 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:16,280 Speaker 1: Um yeah, so we see this most sery play out. 360 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:20,440 Speaker 1: I want to dive into a bit for you. Um, 361 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 1: you seem heartbroken, especially this week. UM, I don't know 362 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:27,439 Speaker 1: what to ask first about your outfit and why you 363 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:29,080 Speaker 1: decided that was a good idea. I think it was 364 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 1: a feature, just just to be clear kind of. I 365 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:38,000 Speaker 1: think it is a fantastic idea, like if I went 366 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:40,800 Speaker 1: to Paradise. I've always had this philosophy on this show. 367 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:43,480 Speaker 1: I know I'm not the most fashionable. I know I'm 368 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 1: not gonna look as good as everybody else in suits 369 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:49,400 Speaker 1: and all those like outfits that they put on. So 370 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:52,840 Speaker 1: like my strategy and Paradise would be to be ridiculous 371 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:57,480 Speaker 1: and just to like where whatever it takes. That feels 372 00:18:57,520 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 1: like you picked it out of like a thrift shop. 373 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:02,399 Speaker 1: That was one of those moves. I respect you, So 374 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:05,000 Speaker 1: I guess I'll start there. Where did you find that outfit? 375 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:06,720 Speaker 1: Why did you just said that was a good idea, 376 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 1: and why did that. Do you think this is gonna 377 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:13,680 Speaker 1: be something I wear as somebody's looking for their husband? Okay, 378 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 1: let me answer does in order? I think I found 379 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:18,639 Speaker 1: it on Zara online and I saw it and I 380 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:21,399 Speaker 1: was like, oh my god, I want to wear that. Uh. 381 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 1: And I had one of my best friends here in 382 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:25,400 Speaker 1: Nashville helped me plan out all my outfits for both 383 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:27,720 Speaker 1: Bachelor at Ambaschelor in Paradise, and I showed her that 384 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:30,400 Speaker 1: outfit and she said, no, you are not wearing that 385 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 1: on television. And I said okay, and then I took 386 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:37,879 Speaker 1: it anyway. And that morning I was looking through my 387 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 1: clothes and I was kind of bummed because you know, 388 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 1: the date with Mercenarilly, and I was like, we're going 389 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:47,360 Speaker 1: in guns blazon. Let's do it, baby, full confidence. Let's 390 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:49,680 Speaker 1: put on something that makes me feel I don't know 391 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:53,400 Speaker 1: about sexy, but it makes me feel confident. At least. 392 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:55,800 Speaker 1: It didn't make you feel confident or were you just you? 393 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:59,719 Speaker 1: I looked at that outfit and thought you were like, up, 394 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:04,280 Speaker 1: I give throwing in the towel, right, But you felt 395 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:06,960 Speaker 1: great in it? Oh? I felt great. I felt like 396 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:10,359 Speaker 1: I looked good. I felt like I was rocking and rolling. 397 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 1: I felt like everybody was checking me out. I was like, hell, yeah, 398 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 1: I take some confidence to rock a rock a onesie 399 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 1: like that. We're just gonna go for it. Uh. And 400 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 1: so I threw it on and I felt great, and 401 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 1: then I went and started my stuff. I like you, 402 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:27,159 Speaker 1: I know you. Actually, I feel like you don't like 403 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 1: the outfit. I didn't love the outfit for the reasoning 404 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:34,719 Speaker 1: that you. I feel like, if you it was not 405 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 1: a seducing outfit. And perhaps in the moment, I was 406 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:42,119 Speaker 1: hoping that maybe like you would be more in a 407 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:45,920 Speaker 1: seductive mode. But seductive isn't really my my m O. 408 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:48,880 Speaker 1: I am a goofball. I know who I am. If 409 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 1: somebody doesn't accept me, my doctor isn't either. I was 410 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 1: gonna stay like you and I both to relate with this, 411 00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:58,399 Speaker 1: Like if you and I are trying to show up 412 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:01,359 Speaker 1: to the beach and be said active like, we're gonna 413 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:04,159 Speaker 1: fail miserably. It's gonna be awful for both of us. 414 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 1: Now here's the other things. Yeah, well, I have to 415 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:10,200 Speaker 1: say this. I have to have to say this. I 416 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:13,440 Speaker 1: trump you as far as embarrassing outfit choices in Paradise 417 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:16,560 Speaker 1: because when Jared dumped me in Paradise like and he 418 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:19,680 Speaker 1: left like the time that it was for real. Um, 419 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:22,840 Speaker 1: I was wearing an I'm a Kim shirt referring to 420 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 1: I'm a Kim Kardashian with a high waisted skirt, and 421 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 1: Jade knew that he was gonna dump me, and she 422 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:34,520 Speaker 1: was like, I don't know how to tell her. She 423 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:36,919 Speaker 1: should probably change her shirt because it's going to be 424 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:40,640 Speaker 1: even more demoralizing. So she didn't. And now, in hindsight, 425 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:43,000 Speaker 1: I think it's absolutely hilarious. I was wearing I'm a 426 00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 1: Kim shirt in that moment. But you know, now that 427 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:50,800 Speaker 1: I remember all this, now I'm saying salute to you. 428 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:54,120 Speaker 1: So I mean, just a little piece that we've never 429 00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:56,880 Speaker 1: talked about. I'm all for it because in high school 430 00:21:57,400 --> 00:22:00,119 Speaker 1: I was the guy in the football locker room who 431 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 1: would like get changed for football practice and be having 432 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 1: on like the banana hammock that was like leather and 433 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:11,359 Speaker 1: just like wait until people commented, or not leather, leopard, sorry, leopard, 434 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:19,760 Speaker 1: like one of those things that the Magic Mike guys. 435 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:23,400 Speaker 1: I feel like that would translate over to Paradise where 436 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:25,080 Speaker 1: I would be the one that would show up in 437 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:28,280 Speaker 1: a wild outfit. Because if somebody's attracted that and can 438 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:31,159 Speaker 1: giggle about it, then I'm like, hey, we've got something. 439 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 1: But if you just want me to be like ripped 440 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 1: and show off all the time, I'm never gonna be 441 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:37,920 Speaker 1: able to sustain that. Like I'm I'm I got about 442 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 1: a day of that maybe, And I would like to 443 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:45,399 Speaker 1: see a picture of you in this leopard print banana hammock. 444 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 1: I hope that exists. Bring out the sluice. Well. The 445 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:53,959 Speaker 1: other thing is Marissa and I and I don't think 446 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:55,120 Speaker 1: you got to see a lot of this. We were 447 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:58,120 Speaker 1: goofballs together, Like we would just sit there and crack 448 00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:01,000 Speaker 1: each other up about the dumbest and like literally our 449 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:04,640 Speaker 1: conversations were hysterical. Just and me, Demi and Marissa sat 450 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:07,320 Speaker 1: in the pool the day before talking about the dumbie 451 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:09,000 Speaker 1: You've ever heard. It was so funny and we were 452 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:11,639 Speaker 1: like I was crying laughing with those two. And so 453 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:13,679 Speaker 1: I knew that, like Marriss' is a goofball too, and 454 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 1: she would you know, I wasn't trying to seduce her. 455 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:18,880 Speaker 1: I was just trying to truly, we wouldn't know that 456 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:23,880 Speaker 1: because we see her as like this, you know, like 457 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:28,240 Speaker 1: whoa like really sensual comes on just talk about Leopard 458 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 1: with her boobies in that left outfit. No, she's she's 459 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:36,679 Speaker 1: so gorgeous and hot, but she's also so like just 460 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 1: fun to talk to and she's a goofball. We didn't 461 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:42,960 Speaker 1: get to see that. That's frustrating that. I feel like 462 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 1: that would have added to the element for us, is 463 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:47,119 Speaker 1: being like, hey, now I get my town are so upset, 464 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:50,400 Speaker 1: Like it had a lot of fun, like of course 465 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 1: he doesn't have Marrissa like her and really have such 466 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 1: a bigger thing going on, but we didn't get to 467 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 1: see your connection. Yeah, and that's why that's why I 468 00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:00,440 Speaker 1: was so nonchalant and non worried about her going the date, 469 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 1: because I knew the connection that Marissa and I had, 470 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:06,800 Speaker 1: and I thought, I honestly thought, uh, well, I don't 471 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:09,280 Speaker 1: think there's any way that Riley is gonna like have 472 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:11,080 Speaker 1: a connection like that with her. There's just no way. 473 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:13,159 Speaker 1: Like we've hit it off, we cracked each other up, 474 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:16,399 Speaker 1: we've like cried laughing and stuff together. So I really 475 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:19,440 Speaker 1: wasn't worried. Um, and then I got worried after that. 476 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:22,439 Speaker 1: All right, Yeah, so let's talk about that moment and like, 477 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 1: how your heart felt. Did it sink when you heard 478 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:30,280 Speaker 1: it they went to the boom boom room. I honestly 479 00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:32,399 Speaker 1: didn't know if that was a rumor or not until 480 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:37,199 Speaker 1: I watched the episode, So I heard it. Yeah, so 481 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 1: I heard that rumor. Uh, you know, Taj told me. 482 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 1: But then I also heard that maybe they just like 483 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:45,240 Speaker 1: cuddled or maybe they didn't even go to the boom 484 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:47,000 Speaker 1: boom room. So when I was there, I wasn't I 485 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:48,800 Speaker 1: was also scared to ask people. I'm not gonna go 486 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:50,399 Speaker 1: up to people and be like, hey, did they go 487 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:53,919 Speaker 1: to the boom boom room? Like that just wasn't my Like, 488 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:55,679 Speaker 1: it wasn't for me to know. If she wasn't going 489 00:24:55,720 --> 00:25:00,280 Speaker 1: to tell me, I guess so my heart definitely sank. 490 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:03,280 Speaker 1: And that kind of changed my perspective because Merris and 491 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:05,640 Speaker 1: I had that conversation the next morning, and I thought 492 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 1: we were still on. I thought things were still good 493 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 1: to go. And then like, even if she liked me 494 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:12,520 Speaker 1: and Riley, I was okay with that, like we would 495 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:15,960 Speaker 1: figure it out. Um. So, based on the conversation we 496 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:17,840 Speaker 1: had that morning, I thought that she still really liked 497 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:20,399 Speaker 1: me and wanted to pursue things. And then the that 498 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:23,879 Speaker 1: whole rest of the day, she spent her entire day 499 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:30,120 Speaker 1: with Riley like right next to him, and I was like, oh, okay, 500 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 1: like I'm starting to make sense of this. But I 501 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:35,920 Speaker 1: that night when I talked to her, I basically had 502 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:41,479 Speaker 1: to break up with myself for her, Yeah, because I 503 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:43,879 Speaker 1: was like, I just I think she was afraid to 504 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 1: hurt me, and so I couldn't really get a straight 505 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:49,639 Speaker 1: answer out of her. I was like, you know, but 506 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:51,480 Speaker 1: after the whole day, it became pretty apparent, and then 507 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:53,200 Speaker 1: they kind of showed up to the Bond Fire together 508 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:56,360 Speaker 1: and I was like, okay, like I think I understand 509 00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:58,840 Speaker 1: what's happening here. So that special secret date that you 510 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:03,080 Speaker 1: were trying to set up on campus never happened. Mm 511 00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:07,720 Speaker 1: hmm no, because you know, once I found out that 512 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:09,480 Speaker 1: she like went to the Boom Boom room and then 513 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:11,920 Speaker 1: saw the way she was just hanging out with Riley 514 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:13,760 Speaker 1: the whole day, I was like, oh, I don't I 515 00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:15,680 Speaker 1: don't even think she would want to go on a 516 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:18,520 Speaker 1: day with me tonight. But I had some cute plans, 517 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:20,879 Speaker 1: like I was had. I had like a list of 518 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:22,719 Speaker 1: ideas of the dates I was going to take her 519 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:24,520 Speaker 1: on that night, you know, just trying to figure out 520 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 1: like what I could do on the beach and whatnot? 521 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:30,080 Speaker 1: Well were they I wanted to do? I thought a 522 00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:32,520 Speaker 1: wine and paint night could be fun, like where we 523 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:34,119 Speaker 1: just set up canvases on the beach and paint and 524 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 1: drink wine. Uh. What else? Did I have a taco 525 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:40,120 Speaker 1: night where we just tried a bunch of different types 526 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:43,439 Speaker 1: of tacos? Uh an ice cream bar or something like that? 527 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:45,760 Speaker 1: We talked about ice cream and I had drunkenly eaten 528 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:49,960 Speaker 1: up a ton of ice cream like two nights before. Uh. 529 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:51,240 Speaker 1: I think there are a couple of others, but I 530 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:55,119 Speaker 1: can't remember, just like fun little beach dates now not 531 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:58,359 Speaker 1: to like I mean, I only asked this so to 532 00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:00,920 Speaker 1: give our the viewers and the listeners little bit more detail. 533 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:03,879 Speaker 1: I've I've been shocked this season. And maybe it's just 534 00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:06,240 Speaker 1: because I'm more into this season and it's been a 535 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:10,040 Speaker 1: while for Paradise, but you know, with the pain of 536 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:12,600 Speaker 1: seeing people ding other people, I asked to actually last 537 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:14,199 Speaker 1: ye because like, how does this happen? Like how are 538 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:18,879 Speaker 1: you okay? How do you process through it? Um? Yeah? 539 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:20,480 Speaker 1: And she said I'm not You're not okay with it, 540 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:22,280 Speaker 1: and she kind of explained, but for you, Connor, as 541 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:25,720 Speaker 1: you're seeing this happen, and now you're seeing this person 542 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 1: that you care about and that you're interested in come 543 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:30,360 Speaker 1: to a bonfire with somebody else right in front of you, 544 00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:35,439 Speaker 1: and that in this environment it's acceptable. Still not okay, 545 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:37,920 Speaker 1: Like still not doesn't mean it doesn't hurt, but still okay. 546 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 1: Like what are you feeling during that? Yeah, I mean 547 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:45,800 Speaker 1: the confusing because there's not just one emotion you're feeling, right, 548 00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:48,040 Speaker 1: It's a lot. It's a mix of confusing emotions. And 549 00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:50,080 Speaker 1: I was still trying to make sense of everything because 550 00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:54,000 Speaker 1: I hadn't heard from her directly what was happening, and 551 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:56,400 Speaker 1: so I think what I was feeling was just kind 552 00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:59,600 Speaker 1: of no, there was no anger at all. It was 553 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:01,360 Speaker 1: just a little bit of sadness and a little bit 554 00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:03,480 Speaker 1: of like, well I was kind of excited about this, 555 00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:05,280 Speaker 1: but and now, and so that that like kind of 556 00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:08,760 Speaker 1: disappointment about this really could have been something like like 557 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:12,360 Speaker 1: like I love the connection we had, and so it's 558 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:16,879 Speaker 1: it's just that kind of like let down of realizing, uh, 559 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:19,080 Speaker 1: you know, what's happening. And then also that's mixed in 560 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:21,560 Speaker 1: with kind of almost still fresh off the breakup with 561 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:24,480 Speaker 1: Katie Thurston of just feeling like, well, here we go 562 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:28,639 Speaker 1: against someone not picking me, like someone just not like 563 00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 1: just not getting chosen again. So having that add on 564 00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:35,720 Speaker 1: to that kind of just made me feel like, well, 565 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:37,840 Speaker 1: what's what's wrong with me? Like? Why why do I 566 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:41,080 Speaker 1: always not get picked on the beach or wherever it is? 567 00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:43,520 Speaker 1: And so I know that's international thought, but that's always 568 00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:46,960 Speaker 1: what pops up when that sort of thing happens. Um, 569 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:48,880 Speaker 1: So that was definitely part of it. Would probably be 570 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:51,760 Speaker 1: a bad HOSTS if we didn't ask um how your 571 00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:58,800 Speaker 1: psyche is doing with the whole kissing thing, because let's 572 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:02,600 Speaker 1: be clear, really just meant that it was a chemistry thing, 573 00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:06,240 Speaker 1: not a skill thing. We hope that you didn't ever 574 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:10,640 Speaker 1: interpret it otherwise. Oh, I definitely interpreted it otherwise, don't 575 00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:17,120 Speaker 1: worry the life. I literally came back from bach Thor 576 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 1: and I was like, I'm a terrible kisser. I that 577 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:21,720 Speaker 1: thing on the TELLL. I texted my a couple of 578 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:24,239 Speaker 1: exes and I was like, am I a bad kisser? Like? 579 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:28,120 Speaker 1: So I was very much in my head, especially once 580 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:30,920 Speaker 1: I got back and watched all the episodes. Got back 581 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:33,440 Speaker 1: from paradise and then saw all the people talking about 582 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:36,040 Speaker 1: me being a bad kisser and whatnot. Uh, and so 583 00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:38,600 Speaker 1: it's I won't lie. I'm very much in my head 584 00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:42,600 Speaker 1: when I kiss people. Now I am you know, I 585 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:46,640 Speaker 1: wish I could just relax and kiss somebody. But always 586 00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:48,720 Speaker 1: in the back of my mind, I'm like, am I 587 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:50,600 Speaker 1: doing a really terrible job? Like is this awful? Like 588 00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:53,600 Speaker 1: she hates this, blah blah blah. Like we're getting past that, though, 589 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:57,200 Speaker 1: we're getting through that. Your pillow does not judge you, 590 00:29:57,240 --> 00:30:03,400 Speaker 1: just like it's the safest place. You appreciate that, Okay, practicing. 591 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:07,400 Speaker 1: And I'll also say that, um, once you meet the 592 00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:10,800 Speaker 1: right person, it doesn't really matter how good of a 593 00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:13,040 Speaker 1: kiss who you are, Like it does maybe at times, 594 00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:18,040 Speaker 1: but like I'll kiss Jess, like when I have bad breath, 595 00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:20,720 Speaker 1: I'll kiss Jess, like walking to the the door, give a 596 00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:23,680 Speaker 1: little smooch and give it. Like once you meet the 597 00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:26,200 Speaker 1: right person, man, that that goes away. You should just 598 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:29,080 Speaker 1: feel confident someone's gonna somebody's gonna fall in love with you. 599 00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:32,440 Speaker 1: And and that kissing thing about the window pretty soon 600 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:47,880 Speaker 1: fix that's really beautiful. All right, we have just a 601 00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:49,680 Speaker 1: few more minutes left with you. But I do want 602 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:52,600 Speaker 1: to ask about one couple whose relationship we saw kind 603 00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:56,120 Speaker 1: of fall apart this week, is Kenny and Marie with 604 00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 1: the whole Demi triangle. There anything more to that that 605 00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:04,160 Speaker 1: you'd to add in and like, are we did? You? 606 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:09,200 Speaker 1: Were us confused about Marie's message to Kenny as as 607 00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:13,520 Speaker 1: he was um? I think, yeah, I don't really know. 608 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:15,680 Speaker 1: I can't speak on where Marie's head was at, but 609 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:19,120 Speaker 1: I got to say I'm sure she was probably interested 610 00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:21,560 Speaker 1: in Kenny but just didn't want to lock it down 611 00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:24,520 Speaker 1: after you know, however many days it's been um. And 612 00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:27,240 Speaker 1: then I think I think obviously Kenny got a little 613 00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:29,479 Speaker 1: bit pissed and went off and was like, all right, 614 00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:33,120 Speaker 1: get then I'm gonna make out with Demi. Uh So 615 00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:38,000 Speaker 1: it was maybe not the clearest communication between them type 616 00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:40,800 Speaker 1: of thing. I don't think. I think Kenny probably took 617 00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:44,880 Speaker 1: it a little harder than Marie meant it to be taken. Um. 618 00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:48,040 Speaker 1: But also it's it's a confusing place, the beaches, and 619 00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:50,040 Speaker 1: you're running along not a lot of sleep. You know, 620 00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:52,000 Speaker 1: you might be hungover, drunk or anything like that. So 621 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:54,160 Speaker 1: it's just it's a lot of times hard to process 622 00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:57,520 Speaker 1: emotions and what people are saying in real time. So 623 00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:03,760 Speaker 1: weird happens all the time. YEA, Now close up here, 624 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:06,800 Speaker 1: I have a final question. I asking my final question. 625 00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:10,800 Speaker 1: You probably has a rapid fire for you prepared, Yeah, 626 00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:12,720 Speaker 1: but I want to ask him a question before we 627 00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:20,800 Speaker 1: get into it here. Um, Connor, you're dude from Nashville, UM, 628 00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:23,120 Speaker 1: who is up to a lot, who has a lot 629 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:25,880 Speaker 1: of a lot of curious things that you're You're a 630 00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:29,040 Speaker 1: lot of things that you're curious about in life. And Um, 631 00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:30,800 Speaker 1: you go on this show, you come off the show, 632 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:35,080 Speaker 1: and I would say that from our perspective, you should 633 00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:36,400 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna tell you how to feel, but I 634 00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:38,160 Speaker 1: would say, hey, you should have some more confidence maybe 635 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:40,760 Speaker 1: than when you walked in, Like, Um, you've got a 636 00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:44,320 Speaker 1: lot of good attention. People have been very interested in you. 637 00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:47,080 Speaker 1: You've taken your your your hits, and and you're gonna 638 00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:49,640 Speaker 1: stand back up and walk into it. How are you 639 00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:52,000 Speaker 1: doing today? If you're explained what it feels like to 640 00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:56,400 Speaker 1: be Connor Brennan walking into Nashville, Tennessee as a man 641 00:32:56,440 --> 00:33:00,640 Speaker 1: that's been on this show and is now um getting 642 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:02,960 Speaker 1: back out there. How how do you feel? How are 643 00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:06,400 Speaker 1: you personally, Uh, that's a really great question and thank 644 00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:09,000 Speaker 1: you for asking. Um it's been I will be honest, 645 00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:11,400 Speaker 1: it's been a roller coaster. It's been mostly great with 646 00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:13,440 Speaker 1: some with a couple of loads here and there, Like 647 00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:16,120 Speaker 1: last week with the Lance Bass thing, not just him 648 00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:18,960 Speaker 1: saying it, but then all the people coming out and 649 00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:21,520 Speaker 1: saying terrible things initially about me wanting to be there 650 00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:24,040 Speaker 1: for music. I was really down. I was really really 651 00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:25,719 Speaker 1: had a terrible day. I basically just laid in bed 652 00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:28,320 Speaker 1: all day. I was really like sad and pressed. And 653 00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:33,360 Speaker 1: then the next day this overwhelming amount of support and 654 00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:35,640 Speaker 1: love and like my mom made a Twitter account just 655 00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:38,280 Speaker 1: to tweak something nice to me, and just like so 656 00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:40,120 Speaker 1: many people saying kind things, and I was like I 657 00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:43,120 Speaker 1: was being stupid yesterday. I'm so lucky. I'm so incredibly 658 00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:46,680 Speaker 1: like grateful for what this experience has given me. So 659 00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:49,160 Speaker 1: that's why I'm right now, That's why I'm back at 660 00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:51,800 Speaker 1: is just like, how lucky am I to have gotten 661 00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:55,800 Speaker 1: to be on this show, to have met such incredible people, um, 662 00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:58,760 Speaker 1: and to have been able to really learn things about 663 00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:01,080 Speaker 1: myself and come out with so it's more confidence. I 664 00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:03,640 Speaker 1: am a hundred times more confident than I was walking 665 00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:06,840 Speaker 1: in with that cats. I was terrified. I thought I 666 00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:08,480 Speaker 1: was getting sent home night one. And so it's just 667 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:10,719 Speaker 1: like seeing the changes in myself over the past few 668 00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:15,880 Speaker 1: months has been crazy. So it feels really really great, 669 00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:18,640 Speaker 1: and I'm mostly just just a lot of gratitude for 670 00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:22,040 Speaker 1: everything that this has been. It's, uh, it's interesting because 671 00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:24,480 Speaker 1: those are the things that we think back on. Actually, 672 00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:27,400 Speaker 1: I talked about it even offline a lot like where 673 00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:29,200 Speaker 1: you go on you think you can be let go 674 00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:31,440 Speaker 1: on night one and you are now all of a 675 00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:35,040 Speaker 1: sudden thrust in this whole new world but you never expected. 676 00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:37,120 Speaker 1: But that changes you for better and allows you to 677 00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:39,439 Speaker 1: meet people, actually meets your husband, and I still think, 678 00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:42,920 Speaker 1: you know, meeting my fiance came from you know, the 679 00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:45,399 Speaker 1: show and her trust, her mom's trust. That I wasn't 680 00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:50,160 Speaker 1: like some weirdo message you understand, but like life will 681 00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:53,160 Speaker 1: make sense over time. I will say this, we warn 682 00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:55,080 Speaker 1: everybody because you're not the only one that deals with 683 00:34:55,160 --> 00:35:00,799 Speaker 1: There's people listening to deal with it. The hating, the trolls, 684 00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:05,560 Speaker 1: UM don't stop necessarily, UM, but you become a little 685 00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:08,640 Speaker 1: more resilient, you grow, you grow some grit some character 686 00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:10,600 Speaker 1: over time. But you're not alone in that, and I 687 00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:13,040 Speaker 1: want to shoot that with you. Is actually I talked about, 688 00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:15,520 Speaker 1: you're not alone in that. We both we're in it, 689 00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:18,160 Speaker 1: We've been through it, we'll still be in it. Um, 690 00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:20,839 Speaker 1: So stay strong, buddy, Thanks for coming on. Now pass 691 00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:24,040 Speaker 1: it off to Astley to close this out with rapid 692 00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:25,960 Speaker 1: fire because she's great at it. Thanks, but I really 693 00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:29,240 Speaker 1: appreciate that. It's really fun when we wrapped with this. Okay, 694 00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:32,759 Speaker 1: So what is say you are, you know, doing a 695 00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:35,880 Speaker 1: set in Nashville, you're doing your music thing. What is 696 00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:39,680 Speaker 1: your go to cover song Walking in Memphis by Mark Conan? 697 00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:47,760 Speaker 1: So good? Yeah, oh good? Who was the Bachelor alum 698 00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:50,840 Speaker 1: that you wanted to see in flirt with a Paradise 699 00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:58,360 Speaker 1: but you didn't get it? Other than Ashley Brittany Calvin 700 00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:01,880 Speaker 1: for sure from that season? Okay, very good. Uh let's 701 00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:05,040 Speaker 1: see she was in your song, wasn't she? She was? 702 00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:08,560 Speaker 1: She was? Yep, and just send you a Nabigail. Okay. 703 00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:13,000 Speaker 1: So then what about who is a celebrity that you 704 00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:15,960 Speaker 1: wish you could slide into their d ms and get 705 00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:21,600 Speaker 1: a response from. Oh wow, that's a really good one. Um. Okay, 706 00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:24,200 Speaker 1: not in a romantic way. But I did, um d 707 00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:29,040 Speaker 1: m Olivia Rodrigo because Wells posted this photo of saying 708 00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:31,200 Speaker 1: that I was like the Olivia Rodrigo of Paradise or 709 00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:33,719 Speaker 1: something like that, and I d m Olivia and I 710 00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:35,560 Speaker 1: was like, Hey, we should write a song to make 711 00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:39,240 Speaker 1: Wells cry. So that's my She's such a great songwriter. 712 00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:45,440 Speaker 1: No she didn't. What was your go to order at 713 00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:50,840 Speaker 1: Wells's bar? So? Wells would make this spicy margarita that 714 00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:53,880 Speaker 1: I would go for every time, and basically progressively every 715 00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:55,160 Speaker 1: day I would tell him to make it a little 716 00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:57,040 Speaker 1: bit spicier, so he put a little bit more like 717 00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:58,759 Speaker 1: Hallapenia in there. So by the end I was just 718 00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:00,719 Speaker 1: like coughing every time I drank k It was great, 719 00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:05,120 Speaker 1: got me alive, It's perfect. Um. Do you have you 720 00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:11,680 Speaker 1: ever used a pickup line? Oh? God, I'm sure I'm 721 00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:13,840 Speaker 1: sure I have at some point. I'm really really bad 722 00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:15,879 Speaker 1: at just walking up to like a girl in a bar. 723 00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:19,279 Speaker 1: I can't do that sometimes. That's you know why I 724 00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:20,960 Speaker 1: play music so people come talk to me because I'm 725 00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:23,839 Speaker 1: too nervous to go talk to people. Um. But if 726 00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:25,160 Speaker 1: I was gonna use a pick up line, it would 727 00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:27,520 Speaker 1: probably be something, Matthew. It would be a pun, A 728 00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:30,200 Speaker 1: dumb pun, for sure, because you're very funny, as we 729 00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:35,160 Speaker 1: saw in that one episode, Thank You. Arguably, what's your 730 00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:38,799 Speaker 1: favorite food? Favorite food is ice cream? Hands down? Love 731 00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:40,440 Speaker 1: ice cream. I could he did every day. I actually did. 732 00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:42,879 Speaker 1: He did every day for like a year once, so big. 733 00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:47,960 Speaker 1: What's your favorite flavor? Then? Pretty basic? I like cookie dough. 734 00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:49,960 Speaker 1: I gotta be honest. I love a big chunk of cookie, 735 00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:52,280 Speaker 1: though chocolate's my favorite, so I'm very basic as well. 736 00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:55,319 Speaker 1: And then my last question for you is what's your 737 00:37:55,320 --> 00:38:00,719 Speaker 1: most embarrassing moment of all time? Of all time? Oh 738 00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:04,279 Speaker 1: my god, um, shoot, put me on the spot with 739 00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:06,600 Speaker 1: that one. I don't know if I'm gonna be able 740 00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:09,680 Speaker 1: to think of that spot. Um, there's one that's in 741 00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:11,319 Speaker 1: your head right now that you don't want to share 742 00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:16,480 Speaker 1: because you just need to share it. I actually I'm 743 00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:18,640 Speaker 1: blanking out completely right now. What have I been very 744 00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:24,520 Speaker 1: embarrassed by? Um? I went to France, uh with my 745 00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:26,480 Speaker 1: girlfriend at the time. This was like a few years ago. 746 00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:29,440 Speaker 1: Went to Paris. We went to the Louver. Was awesome. 747 00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:33,200 Speaker 1: I got really drunk on wine the night before I 748 00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:35,040 Speaker 1: had a bottle of wine each or something like that. 749 00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:38,560 Speaker 1: We go into the louver. So I am crazy hungover 750 00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:40,560 Speaker 1: in the loop, just like hating my life, but seeing 751 00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:42,520 Speaker 1: this beautiful art and being like, wow, this is great. 752 00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:44,680 Speaker 1: I'm so hungover. I feel like death. I want to die. 753 00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:47,360 Speaker 1: And so we go to the little like the little 754 00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:51,520 Speaker 1: coffee stand in the louver uh, and we're gonna try 755 00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:53,520 Speaker 1: to get some coffee and like a croissan or some 756 00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:55,480 Speaker 1: sandwich or something like that to bring me back to life. 757 00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:57,640 Speaker 1: And I have been trying to learn a tiny bit 758 00:38:57,640 --> 00:39:02,200 Speaker 1: of French, like just enough to order, and so I tried. 759 00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:06,040 Speaker 1: I tried to order something in French. It came out 760 00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:10,240 Speaker 1: in Spanish because because I know a little bit of Spanish, 761 00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:12,600 Speaker 1: so I ended up saying something in Spanish with a 762 00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:16,360 Speaker 1: French accent, but also completely wrong in both languages. And 763 00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:18,640 Speaker 1: so I like walked up, tried to order something, came 764 00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:21,239 Speaker 1: out in Spanish, and the guy, like this French guy 765 00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:25,120 Speaker 1: just like stares at me and all of a sudden, 766 00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:26,839 Speaker 1: like my girlf at the time looks at me, She's 767 00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:29,239 Speaker 1: like what what did you just say? Like what just 768 00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:31,360 Speaker 1: geve out of your mouth? And I literally just like 769 00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:33,239 Speaker 1: let her order and I just like slunk away and 770 00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:35,759 Speaker 1: like like slumped my head down. I thought you were 771 00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:39,560 Speaker 1: going to the guy that would have been a better story, 772 00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:44,080 Speaker 1: and then I borrowed on him. Yea. The nothing makes 773 00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:47,360 Speaker 1: you dumber than than the day after a night out. God, 774 00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:53,960 Speaker 1: it's makes you question everything. Um. Hey, h Connie, thanks 775 00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:55,799 Speaker 1: for coming on man, thanks for spending the time with us. 776 00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:59,240 Speaker 1: Wishing the best. We hope you come back on again. 777 00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:03,080 Speaker 1: Um and uh and break down some episodes with us 778 00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:06,800 Speaker 1: or just chat life. Um, it's been a pleasure. Ashley, 779 00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:11,120 Speaker 1: it's been so fun. So thank you for being here 780 00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:15,560 Speaker 1: and for giving us your time. Connor, you have been 781 00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:18,640 Speaker 1: a joy to get to know, especially over the past 782 00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:20,520 Speaker 1: four to five minutes, because I feel like we really 783 00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:22,960 Speaker 1: have gotten to get to know you more so, Connor, 784 00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:25,839 Speaker 1: you have to follow our lead. I've been Ashley, I've 785 00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:28,200 Speaker 1: been Connor, and I've been been Thanks for joining the 786 00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:32,239 Speaker 1: Almost News podcast. Job followed the Benn and Ashley I 787 00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:36,120 Speaker 1: Almost Famous podcast on iHeart Radio or subscribe wherever you 788 00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:37,200 Speaker 1: listen to podcasts.