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Speaker 3: DP Show. I can now say it, Bo Jackson Hall

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Speaker 3: of Famer, Kansas City Royals Hall of Famer. I don't

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Speaker 3: know why it took this long for Bo. He didn't

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Speaker 3: have a lengthy baseball career or football career for that matter.

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Speaker 3: We've talked about this before on the show. If you

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Speaker 3: could take away an injury from a player and just

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Speaker 3: imagine what that career or careers would have been, Bo

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Speaker 3: Jackson would be a number one seed because we saw

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Speaker 3: what he could be in football. Heisman Trophy winner, had

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Speaker 3: some memorable touchdown runs, moments with the Raiders, and then

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Speaker 3: even with the Royals he had memorable moments as well.

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Speaker 3: He would just do things where you go that's not possible.

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Speaker 3: That didn't just happen, and Bo overcame a lot, and

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Speaker 3: you know, Paulie brought this up to me and I

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Speaker 3: didn't realize this, but I interviewed Bo after he won

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Speaker 3: the Heisman in New York City. I was at CNN.

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Speaker 3: He came up to CNN and we sat down to

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Speaker 3: do an interview, and I was told by the PR

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Speaker 3: people his handlers, he's got a speech impediment and he

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Speaker 3: may struggle with certain things.

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Speaker 2: And you know he did.

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Speaker 3: He wasn't a great interview, but it was still Bo

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Speaker 3: won the Heisman Trophy. And Paulie said, you know the

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Speaker 3: expression BO knows and I even have this. This is

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Speaker 3: a baseball, it's a well, it looks like a baseball,

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Speaker 3: but if you're watching on peacock, it says bow nos

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Speaker 3: and it's like a sign. And then the other one

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Speaker 3: was BO, just do it all. And I've kept this.

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Speaker 3: This is you know, probably thirty years old, but I

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Speaker 3: kept it.

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Speaker 2: Because I keep everything. And Paulie said, the reason why

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Speaker 2: Nike came up with bow nos is because Bo didn't

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Speaker 2: want to say I because I was a trigger word

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Speaker 2: for his speech impediment. And when he's talking to the

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Speaker 2: Nike people about a shoe, remember the cross trainer. He

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Speaker 2: created his own category there there was not a cross trainer,

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Speaker 2: the multi sport shoe, and then everybody had to have

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Speaker 2: a Bo Jackson cross trainer shoe. But Bo started saying

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Speaker 2: Bo likes that, or Bo this, or then it became

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Speaker 2: Bo knows. That's how the ad campaign started. And it

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Speaker 2: makes sense because he didn't want to use the word

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Speaker 2: I because that was a trigger word for him. Fast

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Speaker 2: forward years later, I played golf with him and Jim

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Speaker 2: McMahon at Olympia Fields in Chicago and Bo puts one handed.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he hits the ball a mile.

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Speaker 3: And here's Jim McMahon drinking usually a twelve pack of

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Speaker 3: beer each nine holes, and his game actually got better,

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Speaker 3: and he and Bo going back and forth, and I

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Speaker 3: just listened, you know, having conversations there. And you know

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Speaker 3: Bo's done a lot of really good things, business things

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Speaker 3: and now going into the Royals Hall of Fame. But

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Speaker 3: if you said, hey, take away that injury, and what

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Speaker 3: will we have had with Bo? Because Bo is the

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Speaker 3: one player even though we all saw him, there was

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Speaker 3: still this myth attached to him because if you said, hey,

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Speaker 3: did you hear what Bo did? You'd believe it because

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Speaker 3: he was Bo Jackson, and you're not seeing all of

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Speaker 3: his games, all of his hit bats back then, and

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Speaker 3: therefore you might get some highlights. Maybe you're not going

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Speaker 3: to see a game more than likely the All Star

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Speaker 3: Game you saw him. But Bo was just one of

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Speaker 3: those guys that you went, wow, if not for that injury,

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Speaker 3: what would we have seen? And I think he averaged

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Speaker 3: over five and a half yards per carry somewhere around there,

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Speaker 3: five point four yards per carry, which is crazy to

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Speaker 3: average that, but I think it's is it five point four?

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Speaker 4: Paul?

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Speaker 2: It is?

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Speaker 5: Bo Jackson played parts of four NFL seasons. He only

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Speaker 5: had five hundred and fifteen carries. He averaged five point

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Speaker 5: four carry. Put that in perspective. Emmett Smith and Walter

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Speaker 5: Payton averaged four point three a yard less.

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Speaker 3: How many running backs have averaged over five? Is it

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Speaker 3: for a long career? Barry Barry, Jim Brown.

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Speaker 5: Jim Brown, and maybe like like Fred Taylor is four

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Speaker 2: Well, but if you're looking at.

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Speaker 5: Five or plus yards of carry and having more than

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Speaker 2: But Bo averaging five point four, he had four runs

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Speaker 3: He ran into the tunnel that one time and just

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Speaker 3: kept going and then he knocked over Brian Bosworth at

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Speaker 3: the goal line that one time when they played against Seattle.

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Speaker 5: When the post went out on social media, I think

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Speaker 5: by the Kansas City Royals yesterday, Bo Jackson is going

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Speaker 5: in the Hall of Fame I didn't think for a second,

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Speaker 5: you know, his numbers are not really Hall of Fame worthy.

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Speaker 5: I actually thought, of course he is, yeah, Hall of

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Speaker 5: Fame fame and he was not Hall of Stats, Hall

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Speaker 2: He was a magnet when he came up to the plate.

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Speaker 3: But Seaton had a problem with Orlando retiring Shack's jersey.

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Speaker 3: We come in today and I go, got a problem

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Speaker 3: with uh, you know, Royal's retiring. You know he's going

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Speaker 3: in their Hall of Fame. Seems like no, hell no

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Speaker 3: not at Meanwhile, Shaq had a better career with Orlando

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Speaker 3: than Bo had with the Royals. But Bo is going

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Speaker 3: into the Kansas City Royals Hall of Fame. Why did

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Speaker 3: it take so long for a nondescript franchise, It's like Orlando.

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Speaker 2: Why did it take so long to retire Shak's jersey?

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Speaker 5: Bo last played for the Royals in nineteen ninety, so

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Speaker 5: they needed thirty three years.

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Speaker 2: You know what, Let's have him another meeting on this.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. He was that good.

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Speaker 5: He was on the Royals for four or five years,

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Speaker 5: and the one thing about his hip injury, everyone says

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Speaker 5: he would have been the greatest NFL running back. He

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Speaker 5: was really hitting a stride as a baseball player. His

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Speaker 5: last year in Kansas City. He had drastically reduced his strikeouts,

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Speaker 5: he had upped his on base percentage. He hit two

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Speaker 5: seventy two to thirty homers his last year in Kansity

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I remember George Brett talking about first time he

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Speaker 3: saw Bo Jackson and he couldn't get over how somebody

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Speaker 5: Yes, I have the running backs who averaged more five

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Speaker 5: to have at least like, let's say, four thousand yards

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Speaker 5: to make this list. Jamal Charles five point four and

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Speaker 5: he had seventy five hundred yards. Nick Chubb is currently there.

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Speaker 5: He's at five point three.

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Speaker 2: Whoa which is nuts?

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Speaker 5: Jim Brown, Mercury Morris Limited Smaller window. Aaron Jones of

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Speaker 5: the Packers is at five five yards are carrying his career.

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Speaker 5: Gayl Stairs is five, Barry Sanders is five. Jonathan Taylor

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Speaker 5: the Colts is five.

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Speaker 2: And that's it.

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Speaker 5: Stand of the day, stand of the day, stant out

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Speaker 7: Trying to figure out a bracket style tournament for Moonshine,

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Speaker 7: maybe we pit like East versus West, like break it up?

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Speaker 3: I can't watch? Then I gotta have something that says

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Speaker 7: It's called the biggest tournament, the greatest tournament. Come I

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Speaker 3: Have friends who go to the Big East Tournament that's

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Speaker 3: at the Garden and they don't even see any games.

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Speaker 2: All they do is drink what they personally don't look

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Speaker 3: well okay, and they go, we like the atmosphere.

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Speaker 2: We don't need to go to the game.

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Speaker 2: Uh okay, I've seen enough.

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Speaker 2: Because we're upsetting so many fans. Oh my god, are

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Speaker 7: First of all, the bills lost by a field goal

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Speaker 3: How can they even be going in the wrong good, Well,

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Speaker 3: they're losing players.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, they're losing veteran expensive players. Dan, it's called smart management.

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Speaker 2: The Ravens lost a lot of players. Yeah they did.

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Speaker 3: I guess it's one of those that there's no big

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Speaker 7: Go, dang, did they lose them or let them go?

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Speaker 2: Well, I Patrick queint we wish them all? What else?

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Speaker 2: What else are we gonna? So give the poll question

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Speaker 7: Which NFL team feels like it's going in the wrong direction?

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Speaker 7: Just feels like, okay, you can disagree with it, it's okay.

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Speaker 2: Right now.

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Speaker 7: The Giants have thirty one percent of the vote, followed

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Speaker 7: by the Panthers, Titans, Bills, Pats, Jaguars only six percent

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I could see the Giants leader in the clubhouse there. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Panthers gonna be a little while.

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Speaker 5: Can the Panthers be going any more in the wrong direction?

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Speaker 5: There's nowhere else to go. You can't have negative wins.

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Speaker 5: I think your captain zero. They're bad. Their quarterback they

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Speaker 5: drafted isn't working out so far. They are losing talented

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Speaker 5: players on both sides of the ball.

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Speaker 2: But they can't be worse, can they? On paper?

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Speaker 5: They have a worse team next year, but their quarterback

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Speaker 5: would have a year of experience Bright Show. Yeah, like

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Speaker 5: the Chargers feel they're five, five and twelve last year,

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Speaker 5: but their salary cap issues make it feel not good.

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Speaker 5: Like it's always promising with the Chargers new coach et cetera.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and you missed your window with Justin Herbert with

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Speaker 3: If Nick Saban had called you three months ago and said,

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Speaker 4: Well, you know he's done pretty well. He's got another gig,

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Speaker 4: I already had a plan. Uh. I have a lifetime

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Speaker 4: Way way we should know that. And but in some

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Speaker 4: respects they are independent contractors, you know, And so people say,

439
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:16,560
Speaker 4: do we bring them all under one umbrella? And are

440
00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:20,040
Speaker 4: they paid by the universe. It's a complicated. It's complicated,

441
00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:26,160
Speaker 4: but that's what leadership should figure out. You know. That's

442
00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:29,040
Speaker 4: what big business does. That's what countries do. That's what

443
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Speaker 4: you know. But who is doing that?

444
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Speaker 8: You know?

445
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Speaker 2: So you have no faith in the NC Double A

446
00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:36,680
Speaker 2: right now?

447
00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:40,560
Speaker 4: Well, I haven't had faith in the NC DOUBLEA for

448
00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:42,919
Speaker 4: a long time, and I.

449
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Speaker 2: Just want to clarify that.

450
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Speaker 4: But I what I think is the NC Double A

451
00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:52,280
Speaker 4: is a really good organization. The thing the NC Double

452
00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:57,040
Speaker 4: A does the best is run championships for division one, two,

453
00:25:57,119 --> 00:26:02,120
Speaker 4: and three, and they run them in an outstanding manner.

454
00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:08,760
Speaker 4: There's probably a level of rules or something that keeps

455
00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:12,760
Speaker 4: us all together that we could have, but you know,

456
00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:17,600
Speaker 4: like Charlie Baker has put out, maybe there should be

457
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:21,560
Speaker 4: this elite division or basically saying what is football going

458
00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:23,919
Speaker 4: to do? Well, let's find out what football is going

459
00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:27,200
Speaker 4: to do. And if there's going to be another division,

460
00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:32,240
Speaker 4: what does that do to the other three the divisions?

461
00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:36,399
Speaker 4: In other words, you don't just throw out stuff without saying,

462
00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:41,159
Speaker 4: if they do this, it will lead to this, and

463
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Speaker 4: it doesn't make sense to me. And we spend a

464
00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:49,600
Speaker 4: lot of time now trying to congress so that we

465
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Speaker 4: are protected anti trust wise, and some of that is good,

466
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Speaker 4: I think, but it's the purpose of it if if

467
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:04,800
Speaker 4: we protected, let's go back to the old structure. See,

468
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:08,800
Speaker 4: I think we should restructure the NC Double A. We

469
00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:15,600
Speaker 4: should restructure college athletics and then figure this thing, figure

470
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:18,159
Speaker 4: this thing out. What happens in the NC Double A

471
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:24,439
Speaker 4: in their transformation committees and all these committees, they're inundated

472
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:30,240
Speaker 4: with compliance people who are rule oriented and they're good

473
00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:32,439
Speaker 4: at that. Like I have ten rules and I'm going

474
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:34,680
Speaker 4: to make you obey them or I'm going to punish you.

475
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:37,200
Speaker 4: That's not what we should be doing now. We should

476
00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:41,480
Speaker 4: be An entrepreneur doesn't think that way. And by the way,

477
00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:46,560
Speaker 4: they should be an entrepreneur because they have this asset

478
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:50,600
Speaker 4: that's worth a billion bucks, that should be worth more

479
00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:54,680
Speaker 4: if they negotiated it better. And it's a treasure. It's

480
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:57,480
Speaker 4: what makes the incitable a. Oh, it's called the NCAA

481
00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:00,960
Speaker 4: Tournament and we're in it right now because it started

482
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Speaker 4: with all the conference tournaments to see who gets out.

483
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Speaker 3: He's the Hall of Fame coach Mike Shushevsky. I talked

484
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:14,040
Speaker 3: to Jim Beheim about possibly expanding the tournament and he

485
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:18,280
Speaker 3: was fine with ninety six and I said, well, that's

486
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Speaker 3: the regular season. I mean, everybody gets an opportunity to

487
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:24,000
Speaker 3: make the tournament. You have conference tournaments. Why do we

488
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:28,679
Speaker 3: need to expand unless it's just money driven by the NCAA,

489
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:29,520
Speaker 3: You know.

490
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Speaker 4: Dan, I don't. I wish people would stop talking about

491
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:39,360
Speaker 4: changing the NCAA tournament right now. It's a treasure. It works,

492
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:44,320
Speaker 4: it's beautiful. You don't expand something not knowing what it's

493
00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:47,240
Speaker 4: going to fit into in the future. We do not

494
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:51,120
Speaker 4: know the future of the NC Double A, and the

495
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:55,920
Speaker 4: NC DOUBLEA owns the tournament until we find out what

496
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Speaker 4: are there going to be four divisions? Somebody, are there

497
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 4: going to be power conferences? Are until you find that out,

498
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:08,000
Speaker 4: don't throw out seventy two, seventy eight. I don't think

499
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:12,040
Speaker 4: it's a treasure right now. And during this time of

500
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Speaker 4: the year, it's like a cool thing to talk about expansion.

501
00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 4: And I wish Charlie Baker wouldn't talk about expanding it

502
00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:24,920
Speaker 4: until he knows what his organization is going to be

503
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:30,600
Speaker 4: five years from now. And by the way, you know,

504
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:36,000
Speaker 4: we're under contract for another eight years I think now

505
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:37,760
Speaker 4: with because we screwed it up.

506
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Speaker 2: Yeah, but they break contracts all the time. Coach, yeah,

507
00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:41,760
Speaker 2: they do.

508
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, yeah. But what I'm saying down is, you know,

509
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:50,200
Speaker 4: it's pretty damn good right now. In fact, it's a treasure.

510
00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:54,440
Speaker 4: It's priceless. And every kid right now who plays Division

511
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:59,400
Speaker 4: one basketball has a chance because of the conference tournaments.

512
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:03,120
Speaker 4: In other words, I wish we would publicize the conference

513
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:07,640
Speaker 4: tournaments that started last week. There were eight or so

514
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:12,720
Speaker 4: buzzer beaters and the Atlantic Son and Patriot League and

515
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:17,160
Speaker 4: all these things, and to celebrate the tournament from its start.

516
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:21,040
Speaker 4: That is the start of the tournament, and it lends

517
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Speaker 4: itself into the sixty eight and that's the beauty of

518
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:29,800
Speaker 4: our There's no other sport that takes over a month.

519
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:32,320
Speaker 4: And then we're so good we even take a week

520
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:36,440
Speaker 4: of April. You know, it's we got to be careful

521
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Speaker 4: not to mess it up.

522
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Speaker 2: Would Caitlin Clark get the green light if you were

523
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Speaker 2: her coach?

524
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Speaker 4: Damn right, JJ Reddick get the green light? I mean

525
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Speaker 4: you have.

526
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Speaker 2: But she shoots. She had more range than JJ Reddick.

527
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Speaker 4: I'm not necessarily I wouldn't go that far. She has

528
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Speaker 4: more range than you.

529
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Speaker 2: Yeah barely, yeah, yes.

530
00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:05,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, but a little bit. She your high percentage shooter

531
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Speaker 4: took Yes, but uh.

532
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Speaker 2: See how a lot of her shoot from wherever she

533
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Speaker 2: wanted to.

534
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Speaker 4: Well, I would I would love to coach her. I

535
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 4: had her on my show about two months ago. She's genuine.

536
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:20,880
Speaker 4: I mean she has a spirit. I would love to

537
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:24,560
Speaker 4: coach that spirit. I mean she's courageous, she's not she

538
00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 4: is not afraid to fail. And even in their Big

539
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:32,600
Speaker 4: Ten championship game, I think she had four points at halftime,

540
00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 4: you know, uh, and then she goes for thirty more

541
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:41,640
Speaker 4: and that's great. And I love what the women's game

542
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 4: has done over these last two years. They they schedule

543
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 4: big games early they've highlighted their stars. Uh, they've gotten

544
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 4: more exposure TV wise, and I think that's such so

545
00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:58,560
Speaker 4: good for the game.

546
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Speaker 2: Does Duke have a plan in place for storming the court?

547
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Speaker 4: You know, this is crazy. From nineteen ninety six until

548
00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 4: I retired, we lost seventy road games. We won about

549
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:23,400
Speaker 4: two thirds of our row games. In those seventy games,

550
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 4: we had fifty eight court stormings, and we asked the

551
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 4: ACC to do something about it. Said, well, it doesn't happen.

552
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:36,800
Speaker 4: I said, no, it happens to us. And they've never

553
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:41,600
Speaker 4: done anything for Duke. Our policy has been just with

554
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:47,480
Speaker 4: me and the students when I still coach, don't storm

555
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:53,640
Speaker 4: the court unless it's a championship. In other words, don't

556
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 4: give the opponent, don't let the opponent think that they're

557
00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:01,240
Speaker 4: more important than our suit of a championship.

558
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:02,440
Speaker 2: And uh.

559
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:06,240
Speaker 4: Uh we have lived that every once in a while,

560
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:10,240
Speaker 4: like doctor had a half court shot like twenty years ago,

561
00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 4: and uh, and they did that. But we don't want that.

562
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Speaker 4: We don't want to give our opponent, uh that level

563
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Speaker 4: of respect. You know that the only respect we should

564
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 4: have is for winning a league, the ACC tournament championship,

565
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:31,600
Speaker 4: or the NCAA champion.

566
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Speaker 3: Yeah, but I don't know if we can stop these students.

567
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:37,960
Speaker 3: My thought was, make sure you surround the opposing team. Yeah,

568
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 3: it's incumbent that you get them off the floor safely,

569
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Speaker 3: and then the university is liable if you happen to

570
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 3: come on the floor. After that, no more security for

571
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 3: a bigger game.

572
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Speaker 4: Well, I think though you start out by saying we

573
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:57,560
Speaker 4: don't allow storm court stormings, the second step is to

574
00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 4: make sure you have security, and the third step is

575
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:05,560
Speaker 4: you find and if you find, you the team that

576
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:10,160
Speaker 4: gets stormed on gets the money. And uh, because we

577
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:13,440
Speaker 4: would have made probably a million bucks with all those.

578
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Speaker 2: Storm that's true.

579
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:21,120
Speaker 4: But in other words, there has to be some rule,

580
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:25,240
Speaker 4: just like we don't allow bank robbers. Okay, that doesn't

581
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 4: mean we don't have security in banks, and it doesn't

582
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 4: mean that if someone breaks in the bank, we don't

583
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 4: punish them. So I think you have to have some

584
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:37,080
Speaker 4: semblance of order with the recognition that there still will

585
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:41,520
Speaker 4: be some court stormings. And then what is the what

586
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:44,400
Speaker 4: do you do when when when that happens? And uh,

587
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:51,920
Speaker 4: in other words, there's some level of h organization or uh,

588
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 4: you know, we're all over we're all over the place

589
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 4: to a little bit.

590
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Speaker 2: Uh before I let you go.

591
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Speaker 3: How long did it take you to learn how to

592
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 3: spell your last name when you were growing up?

593
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:10,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, forget about spelling it, saying it. And we lived

594
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 4: in inner City Chicago there. One of my uncles was

595
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:15,800
Speaker 4: a cop and we lived on We lived on the

596
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 4: north side, on the south side, my uncle Joe, And

597
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:22,920
Speaker 4: when we go there for Christmas, we'd get in and

598
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:25,759
Speaker 4: the first thing he would ask me is what's my name?

599
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:29,800
Speaker 4: And so at five or so, before I walk in,

600
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:38,839
Speaker 4: I'm asking my mom, mom, what's my name? So I

601
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:41,480
Speaker 4: didn't have to spell it for a long time. Other

602
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:43,880
Speaker 4: people had to spell it, but it took me a

603
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 4: while to pronounce it.

604
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Speaker 2: Good to catch up with you.

605
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 3: If you get lonely you need to talk to somebody,

606
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 3: I'm always here.

607
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:56,560
Speaker 4: Yeah. Well, I've enjoyed our friendship, and I wish you

608
00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 4: would get rid of some of the clutter though, you know.

609
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 2: With it, I keep everything, coach, I do.

610
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 4: You're very possessive. You have yes, yes, garage for stuff?

611
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:12,239
Speaker 2: Yes? Yes? Yeah?

612
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, Well I don't I'm not knocking you just.

613
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 2: It feels like it.

614
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:18,880
Speaker 4: Well, I'm giving you a suggestion.

615
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 3: Okay, but I'm not saying they get rid of the

616
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:22,759
Speaker 3: stuff in your office. There seems like there's a lot.

617
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:24,360
Speaker 4: Of you wouldn't want to get rid of any of

618
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:24,920
Speaker 4: this stuff.

619
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Speaker 3: Good to talk to you, all right, thank you, coach.

620
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Speaker 3: That's uh Coach K k r z y z e

621
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Speaker 3: w s K. I take a break back after this.

622
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623
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624
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625
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626
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:54,960
Speaker 3: Back to Coach K and what he's talking about with

627
00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:57,880
Speaker 3: the expansion of the NCAA Tournament, or at least the

628
00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:01,920
Speaker 3: possibility of that. You know, it's money because the NCUBA

629
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:06,319
Speaker 3: has no control over college football, but it's called the NCAA,

630
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:10,279
Speaker 3: the College Basketball Championship, the NCAA Tournament, and they can

631
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 3: expand this, get more teams in there, there's more revenue

632
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:15,960
Speaker 3: in there. But as Coach K is saying, you've got

633
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:19,040
Speaker 3: to be careful, just tell me what it's going to be.

634
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:19,799
Speaker 2: You can't go.

635
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:22,719
Speaker 3: Let's just expand it and see how it plays out.

636
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:26,480
Speaker 3: He's saying, it's something special, Keep it something special, and

637
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:30,319
Speaker 3: be careful that you don't overextend yourself because we have

638
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:34,280
Speaker 3: a regular season. So you get seated in your conference tournament,

639
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:36,640
Speaker 3: and you win your conference tournament, you get to go

640
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:40,880
Speaker 3: to the NCUBA tournament. Really simple. Now, if you have

641
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 3: ninety six possible bids there, Now we're watering it down.

642
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:50,239
Speaker 3: It's not special. You know, we've said this about playoffs.

643
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 3: When it comes to how many teams make it, it's

644
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:55,719
Speaker 3: almost embarrassing if you don't make it in sports, like

645
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:58,480
Speaker 3: your team didn't make it. Half the teams make it.

646
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:02,280
Speaker 3: Now we're going to say to ninety six teams, ninety

647
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:05,839
Speaker 3: six schools, Hey, everybody's got a chance here.

648
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:08,680
Speaker 2: Okay. I just think you got to be careful of

649
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:09,600
Speaker 2: how much.

650
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:11,879
Speaker 3: Is too much? And I think that's what he's worried about.

651
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:15,920
Speaker 3: He had no problem calling out the NCAA and their president,

652
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 3: Charlie Baker, like, let's have some direction here. Where are

653
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:22,680
Speaker 3: we going with nil? Nil is a recruiting tool. It

654
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 3: was never supposed to be that. It was supposed to

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Speaker 3: be when you got to school, then you could have

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Speaker 3: a collective, then you could make some money. Not hey

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Speaker 3: what am I going to make here? And that's all

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Speaker 3: this is anymore? And you have three star recruits are

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Speaker 3: saying how much am I making? Imagine what the five

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Speaker 3: star recruits are asking for and getting as well? A

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Speaker 3: couple of phone calls in here Dino in New York?

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Speaker 3: Do you know what's on your mind today?

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Speaker 8: Hey Dan?

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Speaker 2: How you doing good? Sir?

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Speaker 8: I heard you talking about bo Jackson earlier, and what

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Speaker 8: a privilege it was to watch this guy play. I mean,

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Speaker 8: we haven't seen any but he like him since I mean,

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Speaker 8: just you never know what you were going to see.

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Speaker 8: It was a special Every game, every handoff, you might

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Speaker 8: see something you've never seen before, and more often than not,

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Speaker 8: he delivered. On that baseball he was incredibly dynamic. You know, Alfielder,

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Speaker 8: he doesn't get enough credit for his arm. And let's

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Speaker 8: give a lot of credit to Al Davis. He drafted

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Speaker 8: him in the seventh round. So everybody passed up on

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Speaker 8: this guy, but Al, being ahead of his time again,

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Speaker 8: was the only one willing going to let him to

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Speaker 8: play baseball and football. And well, what a pleasure to

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Speaker 8: watch him play.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree, And having a chance to have met

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Speaker 3: him when he won the Heisman? What was that nineteen

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Speaker 3: eighty five that he won the Heisman? Nineteen eighty five

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Speaker 3: or eighty six, but I was working in New York

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Speaker 3: and got the opportunity to sit down with him. Then

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Speaker 3: we've had him on a few times. But going into

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Speaker 3: the Kansas City Hall of Fame, Kansity Royals Hall of Fame,

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Speaker 3: I'm not sure why it took so long, but they're

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Speaker 3: getting around to it. It's not like the Royals had

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Speaker 3: so many players. Where you go, all right, Frank White,

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Speaker 3: amos Otis, John Mayberry, Mike Sweeney, Hey Bo Jackson, why

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Speaker 3: don't we put him in?

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Speaker 2: Brother hat U L.

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Speaker 4: Washington, the guy with the toothpicks. You got a factor,

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Speaker 4: that guy.

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Speaker 2: Hey Todd, that's going how you doing? Hey, Marv?

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Speaker 6: Is somebody like Deon Sanders in the Atlanta Falcons Ring

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Speaker 6: of Honor or whatever hall of Fame? Because guys like

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Speaker 6: that should always be in because of the relevancy that

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Speaker 6: he gives a team. I'm not talking about Celtics or

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Speaker 6: Lakers or Yankees where you have to be a Hall

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Speaker 6: of Fame or anything like that, but somebody who brought

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Speaker 6: relevance to your franchise.

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Speaker 3: Well, if you don't have Bo, then you don't have

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Speaker 3: Dion trying to do what Bo did and I always

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Speaker 3: heard that Bo had a problem with Dion trying to

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Speaker 3: emulate him. But Dion was obviously a Hall of Fame

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Speaker 3: football player, but he was a very good baseball player

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Speaker 3: and uh played for a few teams. But you know

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Speaker 3: what he uh all yeah to do is put the

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Speaker 3: battle on the ball. Answers are he was going to

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Speaker 3: beat it out.

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Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 5: Dean Sanders did five years with the Atlanta Falcons. On

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Speaker 5: three of those years, two of those years he's first

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Speaker 5: team All Pro, one year second team All Pro. I

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Speaker 5: mean he was All Pro first team with three different franchises.

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Speaker 2: That might be a that's got to be a record.

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Speaker 3: Final Hour on the Way, we'll talk some football. We'll

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Speaker 3: hear from Kirk Cousins, talks about going to Atlanta. A

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Speaker 3: lot of memes about Kirk Cousins in Atlanta. Maurice Jones Drew,

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Speaker 3: former NFL Pro Bowl running back, will give us his

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Speaker 3: thoughts on everything that's transpired. Final Hour on this Thursday

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Speaker 3: on the Way,