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Speaker 1: Welcome in everybody to Betting Pros. It's time to place

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Speaker 1: your bets. It is me Joey P joe P Zapia

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Speaker 1: and it's time to rumble. That's right. The road to

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Speaker 1: WrestleMania begins this weekend at the Royal Rumble. And it

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Speaker 1: just so happens. You may or may not know this.

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Speaker 1: I'm the host of the End This Ring podcast for

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Speaker 1: the last eight years, my labor of love, because I

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Speaker 1: Pro wrestling and all different forms of the WWE sometimes

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Speaker 1: New Japan, all the innd's and TNA and everything in between.

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Speaker 1: also happen to be all really passionate about this. So

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Speaker 1: instead of just doing shorts and articles, we decided to

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Speaker 1: do an entire podcast dedicated to our picks for the

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Speaker 1: Royal Rumble, and I am super excited now. Terrella and

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Speaker 1: I message a lot about wrestling. Sally and I go

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Speaker 1: back and forth before every single show talking about whatever

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Speaker 1: we saw. Saturday Night's main event is in the can

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Speaker 1: we know who was in and gentlemen, I'm very excited.

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Speaker 1: Last year's Roald Rumble again under Triple H. Some people thought, well,

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Speaker 1: you know, it was kind of cookie cutter. We knew

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Speaker 1: see impunk injury, which turned out to be one of

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Speaker 1: the best things that could possibly happen. But Terrell Furman,

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Speaker 1: anything can happen in the Rumble, and anything can swerve around.

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Speaker 1: What was so stunning to me as I was making

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Speaker 1: my picks here and I've got the men's and women's

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Speaker 1: right here my order, We're going to break down the

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Speaker 1: booking that I have and see what the guys think.

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Speaker 1: What was so stunning to me, especially the Men's Rumble,

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Speaker 1: year and a half. It is kind of stunning. It's

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Speaker 1: very nineteen ninety two Rumble esque, except the championship is

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think it's really really good how they

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Speaker 2: have decided to interswine all of these stories into one

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Speaker 2: and the fact of we have a pool of about

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Speaker 2: seven to ten main events that they could just throw

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Speaker 2: that's a main event in WrestleMania. Oh wow, that's the

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Speaker 2: main event in WrestleMania. Is so many storylines that all

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Speaker 2: kind of intertwine with each other on both brands that

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Speaker 2: you're like, oh wow, this is this can be good

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Speaker 2: because it's like which way are you gonna go with?

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Speaker 2: Are you're kind of looking like, oh is it gonna

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Speaker 2: be a Cody Roman or is it? Oh Roman? Punk

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Speaker 2: there and soon. So's so many options. I love it.

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Speaker 1: So many options, and they're all gonna be tested. That's

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Speaker 1: what you get in the Rumble two is you have

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Speaker 1: these test moments of booking, typically sal where we're gonna

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Speaker 1: tease certain matches and say, what are these what does

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Speaker 1: failures sometimes in the women's division under the Triple Ah regime.

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Speaker 1: It looks like the rehabilitation is in full swing for

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Speaker 1: the tag team division twenty twenty five, that's starting to

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Speaker 1: the main event stars that they have put together because

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Speaker 1: you're going through the list here, and when we get

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Speaker 1: to the men's rumble, it is either former champions or

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Speaker 1: will already have belts right now. It's kind of stunning

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's it's pretty ridiculous just how much

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Speaker 3: the Ria and Live storyline. I think that's kind of

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Speaker 3: at this year's Rumbule. So you could just keep going

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Speaker 1: And saying, well, speaking of lists, in the words of

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Speaker 1: Chris Jericho, I made a list right here, and we're

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Speaker 1: to the booking. Talk about that, give us, give out

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Speaker 1: the picks. I should say as well, and before we

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Speaker 1: you can bet on this stuff, folks, and I have

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Speaker 1: in the last couple of years. And guess what, we

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Speaker 1: did pretty well with some of those picks last year.

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Speaker 1: Nailed all those, including the Mania picks as well two

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Speaker 1: years in a row with the Rumble and on my podcast,

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Speaker 1: I have gotten this is true story nine of the

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Speaker 1: women's rumble here. I always say, boys, you gotta start

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Speaker 1: with something. We're gonna do these tens of time you

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Speaker 1: have to begin with somebody that's gonna get the crowd

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Speaker 1: want some people have some big entrances and some big

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Speaker 1: feel So I'm gonna start with Chelsea Green. You want

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Speaker 1: want to start with her. I want to go EO Scott,

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Speaker 1: who's gonna be my workhorse coming in at two? Really

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Speaker 1: build up Eo here as the marathon woman. Then we're

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Speaker 1: Here we're gonna bring an Islad, Dawn Zoe start that,

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Speaker 1: Talia ganit a good hand like Natalia in here at five,

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Speaker 1: Selina Vega, Piper Niven at seven, Naomi at eight, Sonya

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Speaker 2: So I kind of think of like those starters as

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Speaker 2: put you on your back. Bailey went and got the push,

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Speaker 2: I could really see that for an EO, and I

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Speaker 2: don't really know anybody else that I think really, uh,

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Speaker 2: you're really going to be like all hands on deck

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Speaker 1: So I have EO making it to my final four?

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Speaker 1: Do you have her in that same grouping?

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Speaker 3: No, I wouldn't argue against it, though.

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Speaker 1: All right, I'm not arguing against it. Why why why

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Speaker 1: do you not have her in there? Just out of curiosity, just.

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Speaker 3: The other four I have. She she didn't make the

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Speaker 3: I mean, that's a simple answer.

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Speaker 1: She just fell at all.

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Speaker 3: Right, So after okay, go back to your point about

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Speaker 3: like the big entrances starting the show, and then throw

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Speaker 3: about the iron surviron. There's a couple of names you

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Speaker 3: is again Jordan Grace or Bianca Belair, especially when you say,

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Speaker 3: like the big grand entrances, who has a better entrance

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Speaker 3: the past, paper easy premium blind events like that'd be

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Speaker 3: a great way to get the crowd going. And I'm

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Speaker 3: a spoiler. I'm kind of like all in on Jordan

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Speaker 1: Oh I am too, But I think we're gonna make

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Speaker 1: everybody wait. And I've got a plan here, because the

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Speaker 1: plan is the slow burn. This is the Triple Ah

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Speaker 1: If you don't have those bodies going in, you have

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Speaker 1: the Jordan Graces of the world come in too early.

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Speaker 1: She gotta be in the corner, biding time with some

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Speaker 2: And I think it feels like that too, And it's

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Speaker 3: But also it gives them, you know, like a platform

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Speaker 1: Yes, and it.

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Speaker 1: That's with the NXT.

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Speaker 1: It's Becky Lynch at thirty making her return. So I'm

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Speaker 1: Have I sufficiently inflated the bubble here at the end

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Speaker 2: How many returns is that? Jesus, I've got more returns? Think, hey,

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Speaker 1: Day. This is right there. That's a good Canadian joke

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Speaker 2: So Sal again, Becky, you said who else?

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Speaker 3: Who else is Jade?

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Speaker 1: is the mindset. This is the slow burned Women's Rumble

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Speaker 1: There you go. So final four Osca Eo Sky making

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Speaker 1: That's my final four, Sal, who's your final four for

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Speaker 3: My final four got Charlotte Jordan, Grace Blair and Becky Lynch.

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Speaker 1: Royal Rumble.

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Speaker 2: Bianca, be Lair, Charlotte Flair, Naya Jacks, Meggy Lynch.

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Speaker 1: Becky Lynch A plus five hundred. To me, those are

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Speaker 1: We're not gonna go back to Live More Agan. It's

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Speaker 1: secondary titles here. Osca is probably not going to be

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Speaker 1: thrown right back into that situation. The reason why I

431
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Speaker 1: had Oscar and Charlotte there too, once again renewing some

432
00:19:09,359 --> 00:19:12,360
Speaker 1: fuse there. You got the Osca and Charlotte, you got

433
00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:14,800
Speaker 1: the Becky and Charlotte stuff, you got a lot of history,

434
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Speaker 1: and then you're throwing you know somebody that I know

435
00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:19,760
Speaker 1: Triple H is very high on which has been EO

436
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Speaker 1: And she was so good at n XT and I

437
00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:23,720
Speaker 1: don't think she's really gotten her proper run yet. So

438
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Speaker 1: your winner Terrell again for Women's Royal Rumble.

439
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Speaker 2: So how I look at Winner, I think it's what

440
00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:36,840
Speaker 2: storyline makes the best sense for WrestleMania, What makes the

441
00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:40,040
Speaker 2: best sense for the titles for WrestleMania. I don't think

442
00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:42,800
Speaker 2: either title is gonna drop before Mania, So I think

443
00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:46,119
Speaker 2: we're locked in. Ria is gonna have one match, Tiffany's

444
00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:49,000
Speaker 2: gonna have the other. The only match Tiffany can have

445
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Speaker 2: is Naya Jax. That is the only match that I

446
00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:55,119
Speaker 2: feel like makes sense for Mania is Nia Jacks because

447
00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:58,320
Speaker 2: we've been building this storyline for almost a year now,

448
00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:02,800
Speaker 2: Like they what was that summertime Queen the Ring around

449
00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:05,080
Speaker 2: that time, That's when they started to team up, and

450
00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:08,080
Speaker 2: they built that storyline and it kept going going. She

451
00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:10,080
Speaker 2: won the title all of that, I think, and they

452
00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:12,959
Speaker 2: never got the one on one match. It was always

453
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Speaker 2: the cash and they never got the one on one.

454
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Speaker 2: So I think that that Naya is one match and

455
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Speaker 2: the other match with Rha can go any way. But

456
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Speaker 2: Deaf taxes Charlotte Flair returning from injury and getting a

457
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Speaker 2: title shot like that, That is why it's minus two hundred.

458
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Speaker 2: It's might as two hundred reason. Deaf Sex is Charlotte

459
00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:38,359
Speaker 2: Flair returning from injury and getting a title shot. It

460
00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:42,480
Speaker 2: always happens, and Charlotte Flairria Ripley is a great storyline

461
00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:45,359
Speaker 2: to pick back up on and have an awesome Mania match.

462
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Speaker 2: I think that they are telling us exactly how it's

463
00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:51,399
Speaker 2: gonna go I would be I would love to be

464
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Speaker 2: wrong and see anybody else. But I think it's Charlotte

465
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Speaker 2: Flair because I don't think Naya's gonna win, even though

466
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Speaker 2: Nya and Tiffany is the only option that Tiffany has

467
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Speaker 2: for a match. In my opinion, I think I think

468
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Speaker 2: it's Charlotte. I think it's gonna be Charlotte, and they're

469
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Speaker 2: just setting us up for what we know is gonna

470
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Speaker 2: be Charlotte versus Ria again at Mania, and it's gonna

471
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Speaker 2: be a great match.

472
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Speaker 1: I think it's gonna Charlotte two. I think it's gonna

473
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Speaker 1: be Charlotte and Tiffy. I think they want to put

474
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Speaker 1: a little fresh coat of paint on things a little

475
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Speaker 1: bit there, and because they already know they've got Ria

476
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Speaker 1: and Charlotte in the bed, they've gotten that one, right,

477
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Speaker 1: we still haven't gotten you know, Bianca and Ria either

478
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Speaker 1: on that main roster feud quite yet. You saw an

479
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Speaker 1: n X T a little bit. But to me, it's

480
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Speaker 1: Charlotte and Tiffy because the crowd wants to cheer Tiffy,

481
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Speaker 1: and Charlotte is a heel. She's just is. There's no

482
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Speaker 1: way you can ever just cheer hers. It's not gonna happen.

483
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Speaker 1: It's not her in their DNA. So sal give us

484
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Speaker 1: your final four and your pick for winner here with

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Speaker 1: the odds.

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Speaker 3: Nice I'll say before that, I just want to mention

487
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Speaker 3: if Chrell does think that there's a chance Nia Jackson

488
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Speaker 3: can win a plus five thousand odds man lay down

489
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Speaker 3: right now.

490
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Speaker 2: I think you should be and I do think she'll

491
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Speaker 2: be in the final four. But it's just I can't

492
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Speaker 2: see night of winning it, even though I think that

493
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Speaker 2: is her mania. That's the way Naya has a Mania

494
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Speaker 2: match is with Tiffy.

495
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Speaker 3: In my opinion, I've been tracking the line movement for

496
00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:12,760
Speaker 3: both rumbles for roughly the past past month, and Charlotte's

497
00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:15,720
Speaker 3: been the favorite every single week, going from plus two

498
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Speaker 3: twenty five to minus two hundred and when I try

499
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Speaker 3: to think of a narrative with Royal Rumble and Wrestlemanium,

500
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Speaker 3: in my mind, there's really two concrete ones. It's Charlotte

501
00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:28,640
Speaker 3: winning because they said Charlotte wins everything. It's WrestleMania her

502
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Speaker 3: versus Tiffy. I think it's like the past versus a present.

503
00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:36,480
Speaker 3: I think Tiffany Stratton is the next Charlotte Flair and stylistically,

504
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Speaker 3: I feel like they kind of have similarities, and I

505
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Speaker 3: think that'd be like like as the young kids say a.

506
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Speaker 1: Banger of a match, it would and it gives her

507
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Speaker 1: a little bit of the rub too, where you know,

508
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Speaker 1: he's like, Okay, I'm gonna now you're in that part

509
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Speaker 1: of your career where you start to put the young

510
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Speaker 1: talent over a little bit. And I think that would

511
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Speaker 1: be good for Charlotte Flair to do.

512
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Speaker 3: And then the other option, I think it could be

513
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Speaker 3: either Bianca Blair or Jordan Grace versus rear Ripley, mainly

514
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Speaker 3: because I just want to see Jordan Grace and also

515
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Speaker 3: the plus thirty three hundred odds for Jordan Grace, that's

516
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Speaker 3: some nice value. I've been like, I've been doing a

517
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Speaker 3: lot of research for the Rumbles and this is pretty

518
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Speaker 3: easy to say, but since twenty eighteen, five out of

519
00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:20,159
Speaker 3: the seven winners were the odds on favorite like days before,

520
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Speaker 3: so that automatically puts it at Charlotte Flair the other

521
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Speaker 3: two winners, whereas Becky in twenty nineteen was the second

522
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Speaker 3: favorite and Charlotte in twenty twenty who was the third favorite.

523
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Speaker 3: So everybody hears chalk for a reason. The oddsmakers know

524
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Speaker 3: what they're doing. So if you want to play some

525
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Speaker 3: bet to win money, like you gotta go with like

526
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Speaker 3: the top four.

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Speaker 1: Well, the minute Charlotte was in it and declared I

528
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Speaker 1: was going, you know, I'm betting her at the plus

529
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Speaker 1: two hundred whatever was Now it's minus two hundred. You

530
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Speaker 1: missed the window. Everybody like, yeah, that is it, you know.

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Speaker 1: But in the words of de Batista, give me what

532
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Speaker 1: I want. That's what I want. I want Charlotte Flair.

533
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Speaker 2: And he's so disappointed if Bianca won. And it's only

534
00:23:56,320 --> 00:24:00,680
Speaker 2: because I think Bianca and Rio, whenever it happened, needs

535
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Speaker 2: to be a long thing.

536
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Speaker 1: I agree. I don't think this is it over.

537
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Speaker 2: A year of building up to that feud, Like you

538
00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:09,960
Speaker 2: can't just give me that in a couple months and

539
00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:12,040
Speaker 2: say I'm gonna be happy at Mania. So as much

540
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Speaker 2: as I love Bianca, I would be disappointed if she

541
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Speaker 2: won because that means they're rushing that feud way too much.

542
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Speaker 1: One hundred percent. I don't know if it was you

543
00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:21,080
Speaker 1: or sal made the point before it was like they're

544
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Speaker 1: pretty good at heating up stuff fast, especially a lot

545
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Speaker 1: of these feuds that you just add water to. That's

546
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Speaker 1: one I don't want to heat up fast. I'm with

547
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Speaker 1: you one thousand percent slow burn that one and hasn't

548
00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:33,200
Speaker 1: planted any seeds for it yet. And the big ones,

549
00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:37,920
Speaker 1: the big ones always have seeds planted, always, every single time.

550
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Speaker 1: That's the one thing you've seen from this book and

551
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Speaker 1: go ahead.

552
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Speaker 3: So I was just saying just a little bit of pushback,

553
00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:45,680
Speaker 3: like this has been a slow burn since NXT. It's

554
00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:48,680
Speaker 3: been a very long term story. We haven't seen.

555
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Speaker 2: Much.

556
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's which is fair.

557
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Speaker 3: But again, there's also a lot of people that didn't

558
00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:56,439
Speaker 3: watch NXC or don't watch NXC, so they don't know

559
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Speaker 3: that backstory. So I'm with you with their I.

560
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Speaker 1: Think it's more like we were gonna get her and

561
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Speaker 1: Jade or some sort of you know, situation going on there,

562
00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:07,400
Speaker 1: like man, maybe it was Naomi who took out Jade Cargill.

563
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Speaker 1: I guess we're gonna find out on Friday or saturd.

564
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Speaker 1: I think we'll find out it rumble, we're gonna find

565
00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:14,720
Speaker 1: out sooner or later. I think when Jade gets in

566
00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:16,840
Speaker 1: the ring, we're gonna find out who it was. And

567
00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:19,080
Speaker 1: that's gonna be a fun elimination. And that's part of

568
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Speaker 1: why I want it to come late, because I want

569
00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:23,720
Speaker 1: it to be a big reveal. Again, there's there's always

570
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Speaker 1: a method to the madness here.

571
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Speaker 2: You know, like a little cry like think of Jade

572
00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:29,720
Speaker 2: looking in the ring, looking at Naya, looking at all

573
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Speaker 2: the suspects, and then just she.

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Speaker 1: Goes right on. Yeah, that's great, or Bianca and that's

575
00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:41,560
Speaker 1: your feud. See that's easy that the water is it

576
00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:44,640
Speaker 1: becomes an explosion there. It was like a science experiment

577
00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:46,520
Speaker 1: if you do that, And that's why I want it late.

578
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Speaker 1: But it can't be last because you have to have

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Speaker 1: something that's a little bigger than that. And what's bigger

580
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Speaker 1: than that? Only one thing, and that's the man. Let's

581
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Speaker 1: take a look at them? No then no, no, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean it's as you never know.

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Speaker 3: Before we get to the men's. I do want to

584
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Speaker 3: ask the question because this was interesting to be uh

585
00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:08,639
Speaker 3: studying all the line movement the past month. Today a

586
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Speaker 3: new name was added to the odds for the woman's

587
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Speaker 3: Who wasn't there the previous four three or four weeks

588
00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:17,080
Speaker 3: I've been tracking this. I wanted to get your guys,

589
00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:19,159
Speaker 3: if you think she'll actually make it appearance, not win it.

590
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:22,160
Speaker 3: But Ronda Rowsey showed up in the odds to last.

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Speaker 3: You think, I.

592
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Speaker 2: Don't think somebody requested a bit and said can you

593
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Speaker 2: please add her to the card.

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Speaker 1: She hates the company. They they had got into a

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Speaker 1: thing with the whole Drew Gulak thing with her and

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Speaker 1: all the other side. There's no way it's it's it's

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Speaker 1: zero zero. It's a better chance. You see brock Lesner

598
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Speaker 1: then you see Ronda Rowsey in this one. I say zero.

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Speaker 1: But but that's why they get you. They get you

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Speaker 1: with the big name. So don't be a fool. That's

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Speaker 1: why you're hanging out with us. So before we get

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Speaker 1: to the men's rumble, and I'm going to walk you

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Speaker 1: we go boys, same concept, Men's Rumble. I'm gonna take

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Speaker 1: you through the Joey p booking. Start at number one

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Speaker 1: with a former winner of the World Rumble and somebody

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Speaker 1: So he's got to be number two. You're gonna get

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Speaker 1: the whole crowd, you get the hype wagon going. We're

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Speaker 1: ready to go. Number three, Chad Gable, number four, Carmelo Hayes,

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Speaker 1: number five, We've got La Night Yeah. Number six, Penta.

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Speaker 1: I want him in early, and I want him in

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Speaker 1: some spots, and I want to get him with Carmelo Hayes,

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Speaker 1: Chad Gable all in that same mix. At seven, Finn

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Speaker 1: Balor eight seth rawlins a little early here at nine

628
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Speaker 1: Androdde and number ten Dirty Dom Mysterio. So I want

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Speaker 1: to see Penta with some of these guys here. I

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Speaker 1: want to see him interact with Rowins and Carmelo Hayes

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Speaker 1: and Chad Gable Again, are you with me here on

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Speaker 1: that sal where we want to get Penta moving and

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Speaker 1: shaking with some of these bigger names.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, we have to get them right there. As

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Speaker 3: mentioned top ten, some new possibilities Nowaday's in wwe Penta

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Speaker 3: ja Uso have be kind of fun face off Penta.

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Speaker 3: We've seen Chad Cable, Penta La Knight would be kind

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Speaker 3: of interesting to see them go back and forth a

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Speaker 3: little bit. Wow, I do want to say, like jay

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Speaker 3: Usso's number one. I feel like if they had odds

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Speaker 3: for who do you think is gonna be the first

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Speaker 3: person in the world rumble, j Usso would be the

643
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:50,760
Speaker 3: odds on favorite, coming from the crowd all the way

644
00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 3: to the y to the ring, with the whole yea

645
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 3: and the whole audience team.

646
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:57,400
Speaker 1: That's why I want him too, because I feel like

647
00:28:57,520 --> 00:28:59,840
Speaker 1: it's too obvious to I'm at one. Let's set up

648
00:28:59,880 --> 00:29:02,320
Speaker 1: so somebody who can be a foil for him first

649
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:04,720
Speaker 1: and then bring him in have a little standoff. Torell,

650
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:06,520
Speaker 1: what do you think about these first ten names? Again,

651
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 1: we're talking about Chinske, who's won the Rumble before. We're

652
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:12,840
Speaker 1: talking about Finn Baler, who is Ben champ An NXC

653
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:16,080
Speaker 1: champ Rowins, multiple time champion l A. Knight who just

654
00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 1: came off of a mid card title run Jay Usso,

655
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:21,280
Speaker 1: same thing again. It's a lot of big names here

656
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:21,960
Speaker 1: in these first ten.

657
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I took a completely different approach with it, and

658
00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 2: I'm looking at the first two. I think that's gonna

659
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:30,440
Speaker 2: kick this thing off, and that's also gonna kick off

660
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:34,480
Speaker 2: a Mania match, because we've seen the past two years,

661
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 2: the first two starters have had a Maniam match. Later

662
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:40,320
Speaker 2: on you had the USO's last year, and then you

663
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:43,959
Speaker 2: had Gunther and Seamus kickoff two years before that, and

664
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:46,440
Speaker 2: then they ended up having a triple threat with Juw

665
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 2: mckintyre at Mania. So it's a little bit of tat

666
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:52,560
Speaker 2: of he a little bit of a few there, and

667
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:56,120
Speaker 2: I couldn't I couldn't directly place it. But the one

668
00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:58,200
Speaker 2: person that I think is going to have a good match,

669
00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:00,200
Speaker 2: the one person that I think is going to to

670
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:05,120
Speaker 2: have the iron survivor, and that's bron Breaker. This is

671
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 2: bron Breaker's Royal Rumble. You do you remember when bron

672
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:12,840
Speaker 2: Breaker came out last year and had four eliminations in

673
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:14,920
Speaker 2: the Royal Rumble match. Do you remember how long he

674
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:15,520
Speaker 2: was in the match?

675
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:17,280
Speaker 1: No, I don't.

676
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:18,640
Speaker 2: Five minutes.

677
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:21,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I remember. It wasn't that wild. I don't remember

678
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:24,440
Speaker 1: exactly how long A five minutes. That's crazy.

679
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:28,200
Speaker 2: He was in the match four minutes, four eliminations in

680
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:30,640
Speaker 2: five minutes, and then he was gone. I think they

681
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:32,480
Speaker 2: give him the Iron Survivor, so I think he has

682
00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:34,440
Speaker 2: to be one of the top two. And if I

683
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:35,959
Speaker 2: had to sit there and say, oh, if they're going

684
00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:38,680
Speaker 2: to start him off with a feud for what's gonna

685
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:40,840
Speaker 2: be mania. The other person I think would be good

686
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:44,040
Speaker 2: and can last long too is Lewis Kaiser. I think

687
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:46,720
Speaker 2: lub Kaiser I do have in here. I don't know

688
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:48,240
Speaker 2: if you're gonna like where I've got him, though, but

689
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:50,240
Speaker 2: I do love him. I think I think it's bron

690
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:52,200
Speaker 2: Breaker at one and I think that kicks off the

691
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:55,960
Speaker 2: Rumble and him having a big eliminations long long time

692
00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:58,400
Speaker 2: in the match shows off how good he is, endurable

693
00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:00,560
Speaker 2: he is. That gets him to the and then that

694
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:02,600
Speaker 2: kind of opens things up for the rest of the same.

695
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:06,520
Speaker 1: Booze Rain Down on number ten, don Mysterio but cheers

696
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:09,040
Speaker 1: for Sammy's A and at eleven you gotta throw them

697
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:10,560
Speaker 1: is in there at twelve because I'm sure it's in

698
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:12,840
Speaker 1: his contract. He gets to be in every rumble. At thirteen,

699
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 1: cm Punk the opposite of the thirty one tattooed. See

700
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 1: I'm digging deep here. We're looking for meetings and Easter

701
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 1: eggs every single time. Give me Cmpunk at thirteen because

702
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:23,959
Speaker 1: he wants to be in there long enough to make

703
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:26,560
Speaker 1: his presence felt and feel like it's a warrior. But look,

704
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 1: you gotta protect the Mpunk. He's forty something years old.

705
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 1: You gotta be careful with him. Next up here Jimmy

706
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 1: Uso and then bron Breaker at fifteen. So there you go,

707
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 1: and there's some bodies there for bron Breaker to throw out,

708
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:41,560
Speaker 1: including dom Masterio in there, maybe a Carmelo Hayes Elimination two.

709
00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:45,040
Speaker 1: Next up Damian Priest at sixteen, and then because they

710
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:49,280
Speaker 1: love him, carry and Cross at seventeen. There we get

711
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 1: to eighteen, we start to get some big boys. Drew

712
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 1: McIntyre makes the cut at nineteen. You say his name

713
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:58,120
Speaker 1: and he appears, he's Joe Hendry and twenty ray mysterio,

714
00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:00,880
Speaker 1: So I get Joe Henry at nineteen. Think that's too

715
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:04,200
Speaker 1: late or too early? Sal for Joe Hendry sounds.

716
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:06,680
Speaker 3: About right to me. Build up the anticipation because I

717
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 3: think at this point we all.

718
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 2: Expect him to be. There was ever a guarantee of

719
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:14,200
Speaker 2: somebody that's not on the main roster to be there

720
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 2: is Joe Hendry.

721
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 3: So he gives it that opportunity for like every entrance,

722
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:20,680
Speaker 3: every like countdowns, Oh, is that joh Henry? Is that

723
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:22,600
Speaker 3: Joe Henry? And you just keep building and billy and

724
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 3: billing until they finally say his name and he appears.

725
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:27,680
Speaker 1: Does he last very long? Soal like? Or do you think?

726
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:30,440
Speaker 1: I don't think, I mean, because I have McIntire coming in,

727
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:32,720
Speaker 1: and I'm thinking the perfect guy to eliminate Joe Hendry

728
00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 1: is you know, another United Kingdom fellow, And I think

729
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:36,480
Speaker 1: Drew mcutarre is that guy.

730
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:40,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, I think he's just he's basically here for

731
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:42,720
Speaker 3: the theme song to sing with the audience a little

732
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:44,840
Speaker 3: bit getting there smug for the camera.

733
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:46,920
Speaker 1: Well, you don't want to get too much because he

734
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 1: is the TNA champion that much like. You gotta let

735
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:51,680
Speaker 1: him get in there and mix it up a little bit.

736
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:54,440
Speaker 3: But like just that the fact that a TNA champion

737
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:56,640
Speaker 3: is in the Royal Umble itself is a victory.

738
00:32:56,720 --> 00:33:01,600
Speaker 2: Imagine McIntire and Joe Hendry. But I know that, like

739
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:03,960
Speaker 2: that's the I get it. That is very good. But

740
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:08,680
Speaker 2: imagine Joe Hendry and the mizz standing across each other. Oh,

741
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 2: throw l A Knight in there too. Just imagine all

742
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:16,360
Speaker 2: those just little personalities staring and looking at each other like, now, yeah,

743
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 2: who's gonna do something? Because those are some very very

744
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:23,760
Speaker 2: big names in terms of charisma and how they play

745
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 2: their characters. And yeah, clearcut, Joe Hendry very much gonna

746
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:32,160
Speaker 2: be in the rumble, but I maybe thirty seconds.

747
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:34,680
Speaker 1: See, I want to give him like a minute and

748
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:36,200
Speaker 1: a half. I want to give I don't want to

749
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:37,360
Speaker 1: burn him too quick because.

750
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:39,520
Speaker 2: Then again that they already got him the first time.

751
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, with the Bat's trial, that's true. Let's go to

752
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 1: twenty one Seamus, who had a nice showing there with

753
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 1: bron Breaker last weekend. Twenty two Trick Williams, this is

754
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:52,719
Speaker 1: my one NXT. I'm not I don't want to put

755
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 1: Opahemi in there because it makes them look weak to

756
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:56,440
Speaker 1: get him thrown out, and that guy's just too strong looking.

757
00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 1: I don't want to open Emmy anywhere near this. I

758
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:01,320
Speaker 1: love Opahemi, And I was thinking, do I want to

759
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:02,840
Speaker 1: put Ethan Page in here? But I think it's time

760
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:04,959
Speaker 1: for Trick Williams. Let's let's get him up here instead.

761
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:08,879
Speaker 1: I think, I think, from audience perspective and involvement, Durell,

762
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:11,879
Speaker 1: I think the Trick Williams entrance is a little bit

763
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:14,319
Speaker 1: more royal rumble friendly than Ethan Page. What do you think?

764
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 2: Yeah? Absolutely? I mean when you did you hear that SmackDown,

765
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 2: the one SmackDown that Trick Williams came out and he

766
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:25,080
Speaker 2: saved Carmelo Hayes and the whole place erupted. I mean

767
00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:27,520
Speaker 2: the music had already stopped in the wook that trick

768
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:30,439
Speaker 2: trance kept going, Trick kept going. So yeah, you got

769
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:31,800
Speaker 2: to hear his interest music geting.

770
00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:35,600
Speaker 1: Rumble all right at twenty three. Here we go John

771
00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:37,680
Speaker 1: Cena at twenty three, because if you're paying to see

772
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:39,480
Speaker 1: John Cena, you gotta get him in there. But I'm

773
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:42,080
Speaker 1: not getting him in there before the twenties. It's too early.

774
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:45,920
Speaker 1: I don't want Sena interacting with everybody. He's a star,

775
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:48,319
Speaker 1: So you gotta get rid of some of those people

776
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:50,920
Speaker 1: in that first you know, fifteen twenty, and then you

777
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:52,759
Speaker 1: have a little bit of an open space here for

778
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:55,319
Speaker 1: John Seen to come in Ludwig Kaiser at twenty four.

779
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:58,680
Speaker 1: Now here's where things get interesting. So I marinated on

780
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:02,960
Speaker 1: this boys seven night's main event. I'm like, nobody loves

781
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:05,480
Speaker 1: Jacob FA two more than me. I am loving how

782
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:08,720
Speaker 1: they're making him a star. He is got the promo,

783
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:11,840
Speaker 1: he's got the athleticism, he's got the presence, he's got everything.

784
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:14,799
Speaker 1: He is it. He is believable. So why are we

785
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:17,360
Speaker 1: making him such an animal right now? Well, because I

786
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:20,000
Speaker 1: think we're going to have him in Roman Reigns be

787
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:22,799
Speaker 1: the match. I can't do the rock. Roman's really got

788
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:26,399
Speaker 1: nothing else going on right now. Roman Jacob FA two

789
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:28,439
Speaker 1: take my money. I want to see it. And it's

790
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 1: something that I think is a big enough match where

791
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:34,400
Speaker 1: it still feels important. But we're gonna take a break

792
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:36,880
Speaker 1: after a decade of Roman being in the main event,

793
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:39,359
Speaker 1: and I think that's probably healthy for the company to do.

794
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:41,960
Speaker 1: I have him at twenty five, and here's the booking.

795
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 1: Let's see if you can stay with me Jacob fo

796
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:46,359
Speaker 1: Tuo at twenty five, Randy Orton returning at twenty six,

797
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:48,759
Speaker 1: Logan Paula twenty seven. Again, you don't want him in

798
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:52,000
Speaker 1: there too long. Aj Style is returning at twenty eight,

799
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:56,319
Speaker 1: Solo Sokoa at twenty nine. Roman reigns at thirty and

800
00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 1: I think what you're gonna have here is a final

801
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:04,080
Speaker 1: four of Jim Jacob fa Tu. Roman reigns Fatu, eliminating

802
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:08,840
Speaker 1: Roman reigns, spurning that feud. My final four Sina Punk,

803
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:13,440
Speaker 1: Fatu and Rains. I'm trying to create something here with

804
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:16,720
Speaker 1: Fatu and Rains in this rumble, because right now Roman

805
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:20,040
Speaker 1: has no direction and to just now throw him back

806
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:21,759
Speaker 1: and I could throw him back at Cody again, to

807
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:24,919
Speaker 1: throw m a gunter feels a little forced FA two.

808
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 1: Roman reigns Terrell. What do you think?

809
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:28,840
Speaker 2: I don't know why you don't throw him back at

810
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 2: Cody again. My again, I think of the Royal Romo match,

811
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:35,680
Speaker 2: and I think, Okay, what's the biggest WrestleMania we can have,

812
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:38,480
Speaker 2: what's the best wrestle Meania. We can have you take

813
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:40,440
Speaker 2: your two top stars and you give him the third

814
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:43,960
Speaker 2: match that you teased. All this year, literally throughout the

815
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 2: entire year SummerSlam. Multiple times we talked about this match

816
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 2: being the match and ultimately, how does Roman Reigns get

817
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 2: to that match? So, if I'm sold that it's going

818
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:57,440
Speaker 2: to be Roman Cody three, there's no way, and I

819
00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:00,160
Speaker 2: promise you there's no way Roman Reigns is wrestling in

820
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:04,040
Speaker 2: an elimination and chamber qualifying match. That is not happening.

821
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:07,480
Speaker 1: So I don't either, Yeah, I don't have an happen,

822
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:09,319
Speaker 1: I just have it. I agree with you. I don't

823
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:11,839
Speaker 1: think he's in elimination chamber. I think it's Jacob FA two.

824
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:12,920
Speaker 1: I think that's the future.

825
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 2: If you if that makes everybody a star that was

826
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:17,840
Speaker 2: that's a good way to book it, and it builds

827
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 2: something with Roman because as of right now, if you

828
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:23,040
Speaker 2: don't think it's Roman and Cody, there's no way Roman

829
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:25,440
Speaker 2: is in a title match because he's not in an

830
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:27,919
Speaker 2: elimination chamber match, and you have to have him winging

831
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:29,160
Speaker 2: rumble if it's not going to be that.

832
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:32,840
Speaker 1: So uh, and it immediately makes Jacob FA two elevated

833
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 1: to a whole other stratosphere, which it feels like that's

834
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:37,160
Speaker 1: the rocket chip sou that this company wants to put

835
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 1: on him.

836
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:40,920
Speaker 3: All gas, no breaks, as he says, right, I laughed

837
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 3: earlier because you and I have the exact same final four.

838
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:47,320
Speaker 1: No, I don't know.

839
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 3: People don't think I'm blind, but those are the four.

840
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:54,320
Speaker 3: I thought maybe Seth could sneak in there over Jacob.

841
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 3: But if you go with the bloodline World Rumble storyline

842
00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:59,320
Speaker 3: and you break off the Roman reigns and the Jacob

843
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:02,480
Speaker 3: fuck to match for WrestleMania, that leaves seeing punkin Johnson.

844
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:04,880
Speaker 3: Which way you go between those two is a different story.

845
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 3: I thought it might have been a little bit crazy

846
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 3: having Jacob for two in the top four. I also

847
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:10,839
Speaker 3: think he's a dark horse candidate to be the guy

848
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:13,319
Speaker 3: that has the most eliminations in the strumble. I think

849
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:14,839
Speaker 3: as soon as he gets in there, it's just gonna

850
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 3: be like a tornado where he just like eliminates everybody

851
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 3: left and right like an animal. And we get to

852
00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 3: that final four.

853
00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:23,160
Speaker 1: And you have to have him come in late to

854
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:25,400
Speaker 1: do that, and that's the like I think you have

855
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:27,320
Speaker 1: to have that press where it comes in and he's

856
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 1: he's throwing out you know, the ray mysterios, he's throwing

857
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:33,799
Speaker 1: out the carrying crosses, I think he's thrown out. You

858
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:37,000
Speaker 1: want to give him the trick? Williams, right, like, that's believable. Right,

859
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:39,439
Speaker 1: You're like, hey, kid, not yet, you ain't quite ready

860
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 1: for this. That's how you start to build this star.

861
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:44,279
Speaker 1: And it feels like that's what they're doing with this guy,

862
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:47,759
Speaker 1: and it ain't wrong. It ain't wrong. So let's talk

863
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:50,000
Speaker 1: about your final four and your pick to win Terrell,

864
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:52,360
Speaker 1: and then we'll get everybody's final pick here, just to

865
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:55,880
Speaker 1: set the stage two for the Men's Royal Rumble. The

866
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 1: odds as of recording right now John Cena plus one hundred,

867
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:00,920
Speaker 1: seth Rollins plus one twenty five se Punk plus one

868
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:03,839
Speaker 1: fifty the rock still hanging out there. I guess he's

869
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:05,279
Speaker 1: waiting for the number thirty.

870
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:06,280
Speaker 2: I don't know his numbers.

871
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:08,560
Speaker 1: Did you hear the theory to row about somebody saying

872
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 1: that he gave Cody the ping pong ball from the

873
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:13,399
Speaker 1: Royal rum Remember the old school, you know they know

874
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:15,839
Speaker 1: dude the tumbler. I remember it was thirty one.

875
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:19,360
Speaker 2: They said that he gave him a piece of the

876
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:23,399
Speaker 2: ula Fallow Like, oh my god, that's a bad one.

877
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:24,040
Speaker 2: That's the big.

878
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:27,239
Speaker 1: Ones, all right, So give me your final four. Then

879
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:29,319
Speaker 1: based on some of these odds again long shot Roman

880
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:31,560
Speaker 1: reigns plus twelve hundreds a big long shot here actually,

881
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:32,880
Speaker 1: which I just ironic.

882
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:36,439
Speaker 2: I just don't get it. And maybe it's because I've

883
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 2: I'm kind of sold on this is gonna be Roman

884
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:41,920
Speaker 2: and Cody three. But it's like, why tease it now?

885
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 2: And we're gonna get this because you're not gonna just

886
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:46,200
Speaker 2: throw this at This is only a manium match. The

887
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 2: third one is only going to be a manium match.

888
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:49,480
Speaker 2: I can't see the counter.

889
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 1: Here's the counterpoint to Roman, and we'll see what you

890
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:55,839
Speaker 1: think of Roman Cody three. Fatigue, Right, you don't want

891
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 1: to keep doing the same thing three years in a row.

892
00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:01,759
Speaker 1: Sometimes the audience goes, you know, it's great, but we've

893
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 1: seen it twice in a row. Maybe you let it

894
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:06,360
Speaker 1: breathe one more year, and maybe you have a twist

895
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:10,520
Speaker 1: where you finally let Cody go full Homelander, and maybe

896
00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:12,239
Speaker 1: it's a different vibe by the time we get to

897
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:14,720
Speaker 1: that third one, so you can put Roman over again.

898
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:18,719
Speaker 1: And maybe it's also a matter of it's been ten

899
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:20,640
Speaker 1: years in a row for Roman in the main events,

900
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:22,719
Speaker 1: you got it at some point start to build some

901
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:26,759
Speaker 1: new main event possibilities out there. I think that's the

902
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:27,759
Speaker 1: counter argument, and.

903
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:30,719
Speaker 2: I think, hey, when you want to be the man,

904
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:32,719
Speaker 2: you gotta beaten man. And as of right now, they

905
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:35,680
Speaker 2: are the two biggest draws, and it's kind of tough

906
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:38,920
Speaker 2: your two biggest draws, and that's the match that a

907
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:41,200
Speaker 2: lot of people want to see. As much as people

908
00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:43,960
Speaker 2: are so much fatigue, there's also a lot of people

909
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 2: that that's all they're thinking about. And so I think

910
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:48,359
Speaker 2: it's two sides of the coin. So I don't know

911
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:51,840
Speaker 2: I have two winners. I haven't. I literally am fifty

912
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:54,839
Speaker 2: to fifty on it. So my final four Roman reign

913
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:58,239
Speaker 2: Sampunk and John's seen it much to the degree of

914
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:01,319
Speaker 2: you three. However, I did not have Jacob Fatu in there.

915
00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:04,319
Speaker 2: I did have Seth Rollins in there as the last spot,

916
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:09,280
Speaker 2: and I booked it as that whole rumble is gonna

917
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 2: be all of the ways that in some different way

918
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:14,279
Speaker 2: or shape or form, because I think Drew McIntire is

919
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 2: out number five, that Seth Rollins, Drew McIntire, seem Punk

920
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:20,800
Speaker 2: all screwed themselves out of a chance to main event WrestleMania,

921
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:23,439
Speaker 2: and I think that's where this whole next two months

922
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:26,879
Speaker 2: is about to go is somehow, some way, whether it's

923
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:29,840
Speaker 2: through the Rumble, whether it's through elimination Chamber, it's gonna

924
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:33,879
Speaker 2: be the rivalry between Seth Rollins, seem Punk and Drew

925
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 2: mckintire screwed them all out the main event. They have

926
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:39,200
Speaker 2: a triple threat match and put on the greatest match

927
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:42,960
Speaker 2: of WrestleMania in Vegas. I think that's how it's gonna go.

928
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:45,480
Speaker 2: And so with that, I think Roman and john Sen

929
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 2: and just kind of find their ways in the championship

930
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 2: matches because that storyline is so big and you gotta

931
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 2: finally give it that conclusion. It's gotta be over, and

932
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:57,040
Speaker 2: it's only over with a triple threat. So I think

933
00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:59,600
Speaker 2: it's I think it's Roman, but I also have Punk

934
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:01,759
Speaker 2: up there as well, because if anybody's going to get it,

935
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:04,520
Speaker 2: it's going to be Punk. He's literally come back for this.

936
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:05,799
Speaker 2: This is the thing that his career is.

937
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:09,319
Speaker 1: Sitting right all right. I've got my reasons for my winner,

938
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 1: and they're very clear. I want to say no, I

939
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:12,439
Speaker 1: want to hear South. Since we have the same final four,

940
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:14,279
Speaker 1: who's your winner of the twenty twenty five men for

941
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:14,840
Speaker 1: a rumble.

942
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:18,600
Speaker 3: Right, So again we look at the odds since twenty thirteen,

943
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:21,240
Speaker 3: nine out of the twelve winners, I've been the odds

944
00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 3: on favorite the day before. The other three again in

945
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:26,400
Speaker 3: the top four. So if you look at the odds,

946
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:28,640
Speaker 3: the top four as of right now, John Cena plus

947
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:31,560
Speaker 3: one hundred, seth Rollins plus one twenty five, seem Punk

948
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:34,000
Speaker 3: plus one fifty, The Rock I don't know why he's

949
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:36,680
Speaker 3: still up here plus eight hundred if we remove him,

950
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:37,319
Speaker 3: Roman Ring.

951
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:43,799
Speaker 1: Rosy, Yeah, yeah, twelve.

952
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 3: I found it kind of interesting that Roman Rains went

953
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:47,680
Speaker 3: from plus seven hundred plus twelve hundred. I thought it

954
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:50,920
Speaker 3: would have been opposite the more we got into the

955
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:54,400
Speaker 3: the rumble. There's this podcast I listened to from the Bringer,

956
00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 3: The mash Man Show with David Schumaker, And because Hekaz

957
00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:00,719
Speaker 3: used to be a writer for WW, he always says

958
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:04,319
Speaker 3: during his podcast, WW will tell you what they're going

959
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:07,239
Speaker 3: to do if you pay attention. And I think at

960
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:10,480
Speaker 3: the end of the go Home episode of Raw, that

961
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:13,719
Speaker 3: promo between CM Punk and Cody Rhoads, I think they

962
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:16,800
Speaker 3: were set in the stage for CM Punk and Cody

963
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:20,400
Speaker 3: Rhodes WrestleMania main event. Every day up until the recording

964
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:22,359
Speaker 3: of this podcast, I had flipped of who I thought

965
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:24,239
Speaker 3: was gonna win. I was John Steena all the way

966
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:27,360
Speaker 3: the nostalgia scene is coming back. He was the odds

967
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:29,720
Speaker 3: on Favorite, and then all of a sudden, seth Rowlins

968
00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 3: went from like plus twenty five hundred to the odds

969
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:32,720
Speaker 3: on favorite.

970
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:33,560
Speaker 2: There's a couple.

971
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:39,000
Speaker 3: I know. I would have been so happy and then

972
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:41,840
Speaker 3: that on the minus one fifty he was the odds

973
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:43,879
Speaker 3: on fair. Now he's the second one plus twenty five.

974
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:46,840
Speaker 3: I've kind of cooled off on his potentially win in

975
00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:49,359
Speaker 3: if we go with the Roman reigns Jacob for two,

976
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 3: that eliminates Romans. It leaves us with the CM punk

977
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:55,160
Speaker 3: and Cody Roads know seem punk. He's he's forty six,

978
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:57,839
Speaker 3: he's he's close to fifty, then he has forty. He's

979
00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 3: never won the Rumble. We know one of his biggest

980
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:04,560
Speaker 3: life goals is to main event WrestleMania. I don't know

981
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:07,439
Speaker 3: what you guys think. I currently think he's like, maybe

982
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:12,239
Speaker 3: outside of Cody, the hottest of the w yeahs at

983
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:15,759
Speaker 3: the universe right now. H he's been the second or

984
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:18,960
Speaker 3: third odds on Favorite every week and he's currently a

985
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:21,239
Speaker 3: plus one fifty. So like the numbers of the dad

986
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:24,200
Speaker 3: and the trends back them up, and storyline wise, I

987
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:27,000
Speaker 3: think they're just they're setting it up for us, and

988
00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:29,239
Speaker 3: I think it might be flip flop where by the

989
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:32,319
Speaker 3: time we get to WrestleMania, we might not get full

990
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:34,600
Speaker 3: Cody Homelander, but I think we're gonna get Cody on

991
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 3: the hillside and Punk as the true baby fit.

992
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 1: I think got there.

993
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 3: Eventually he gets Seth Rollins. That's gonna be like the

994
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:43,839
Speaker 3: B match.

995
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:47,120
Speaker 1: I know that that is the Night one WrestleMania main event.

996
00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:49,960
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, like it ain't. I don't think Seth enough.

997
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:56,359
Speaker 1: I think, I don't think anybody. I think right.

998
00:44:56,280 --> 00:45:00,719
Speaker 2: Now there is a main and main event match, not

999
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:03,640
Speaker 2: a main event WrestleMania match, not a Night one, not

1000
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:05,640
Speaker 2: where Seth Rollins is currently booked.

1001
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:08,560
Speaker 1: There's nothing. What you've done with the book, Seth row

1002
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter, and it's not It's is WW you

1003
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:14,319
Speaker 1: need more than that. Unfortunately, this is not This is

1004
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:17,560
Speaker 1: not aw Tony Kahn fantasy booking where we just make

1005
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:20,040
Speaker 1: good matches and then nobody cares the next day. This

1006
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:22,720
Speaker 1: is different. This is about us getting to a point

1007
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:25,480
Speaker 1: where We're engaged with Seth Rollins and Seth Rolins just

1008
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:27,680
Speaker 1: lost to see him punk. Seth Rawlins feels like he's

1009
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:30,319
Speaker 1: floating around in the character that's more of an entrance

1010
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:33,279
Speaker 1: than a character anybody really cares about. I'm sorry, like

1011
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:37,200
Speaker 1: he is kind of mid tier right now. Well, and

1012
00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 1: I like Seth Rollins, I just feel like this is

1013
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:42,319
Speaker 1: that's where he is. So what I want to see

1014
00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:44,560
Speaker 1: that match? Sure do I want to see it WrestleMania.

1015
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:46,319
Speaker 1: It ain't there, and I don't think you can get

1016
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:47,160
Speaker 1: it there in four months.

1017
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:50,000
Speaker 2: I think it's still Wrestlemanium. Maybe not this Mania, but

1018
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:52,480
Speaker 2: I think it's still a WrestleMania oh down the line.

1019
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:55,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just not right now. Seth Rollins character right

1020
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:58,080
Speaker 1: now is just not there. Here is the Final Four again,

1021
00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:01,480
Speaker 1: Rain's about to sena punk now. I'm going with CM punk.

1022
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:03,279
Speaker 1: And here's a couple of reasons why. Number One, the

1023
00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:05,319
Speaker 1: minute John Cena came back, all he keeps talking about

1024
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:06,680
Speaker 1: is the same thing. Have you ever heard him do

1025
00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:08,960
Speaker 1: a promo since he's come back and not say the

1026
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 1: words elimination Chamber. I think there's a reason for that.

1027
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:15,160
Speaker 1: It's an international show. John Cena in Toronto is gonna

1028
00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:17,279
Speaker 1: have one last run in Canada and get tip his

1029
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:19,600
Speaker 1: cap to everybody. And this is the farewell tour, folks,

1030
00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:21,959
Speaker 1: So you're gonna get Seena everywhere so they can cash

1031
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:23,759
Speaker 1: in on every single thing of merch. You see the

1032
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:26,440
Speaker 1: Indianapolis merch for Sina. Guess what, We're gonna have a

1033
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:28,719
Speaker 1: bunch of Canadian flag merch Forsina when he goes up

1034
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:31,279
Speaker 1: to Toronto. It's going to be the same thing all

1035
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:33,080
Speaker 1: the way through. This is what we're going to do.

1036
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:35,880
Speaker 1: And considering what happened to Punk last year, and considering

1037
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:39,960
Speaker 1: with aw Punk two he's a little fragile, you want

1038
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:41,600
Speaker 1: to have him win the Rumble and then put him

1039
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:44,719
Speaker 1: in bubble wrap until WrestleMania. You do not want Seampunk

1040
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:47,560
Speaker 1: at Elimination Chamber doing stupid things. I'm telling you right now,

1041
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:50,360
Speaker 1: it's bad for business. You have him win this time around,

1042
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:54,840
Speaker 1: you protect him till until you get to April to WrestleMania,

1043
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:57,040
Speaker 1: and that's it, and you have him go over here.

1044
00:46:57,400 --> 00:47:01,000
Speaker 1: Now there's if you don't want to do Sina and Cody,

1045
00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:03,480
Speaker 1: which is something a lot of people want. I think

1046
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:06,920
Speaker 1: Sina and Cody needs the belt personally, because you have

1047
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:10,360
Speaker 1: to have that draw of Oh Sina one more time?

1048
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:14,360
Speaker 1: Can he win one more championship face versus face passing

1049
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:16,359
Speaker 1: the torch to Cody. It's that ultimate kind of good

1050
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:19,400
Speaker 1: guy moment. It's very Hogan Warrior esque kind of feel.

1051
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:23,960
Speaker 1: There only two much, much much better human beings. Can

1052
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:27,319
Speaker 1: I emphasize the much there? And then what you have

1053
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:30,320
Speaker 1: going on is you have the opportunity to do that match.

1054
00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:33,480
Speaker 1: You have a very clear night one of Cmpunk, verst Gunter.

1055
00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:36,040
Speaker 1: Gunter will carry He carried jay us to the best

1056
00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:38,160
Speaker 1: singles match he's ever had. J Uso is not a

1057
00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:41,480
Speaker 1: great singles wrestler, he was a good match. Gunter can

1058
00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:44,120
Speaker 1: carry anybody, even a forty six year old Cmpunk. It's

1059
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:47,280
Speaker 1: gonna be fine, and the crowd will be very clear

1060
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:49,319
Speaker 1: that night who they want to win. And I think

1061
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:53,440
Speaker 1: that's something WWE wants. They want the clarity of, you know,

1062
00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:56,719
Speaker 1: we want Cmpunk to be I think if it's Cmpunk

1063
00:47:56,719 --> 00:47:59,680
Speaker 1: and Cody, that crowd's gonna be very split. Sal what

1064
00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:00,240
Speaker 1: do you think?

1065
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 3: But I think by the time we get there, promo wise,

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Speaker 3: Spunk will win over the crowd.

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Speaker 1: I don't disagree, but at the same time, if you

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Speaker 1: look at the you know, if you look at the crowds,

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00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:13,879
Speaker 1: got a lot of kids, a lot of younger people,

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Speaker 1: and many is one of those big events too, where

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00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:17,480
Speaker 1: you're gonna get a lot of you know, the people

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Speaker 1: engage in families and stuff like that. Terrell. They've made

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Speaker 1: a lot of money off Cody Rhoades and those kids

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00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:24,719
Speaker 1: who This is not like you buy a pair of

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Speaker 1: jorts and a hat and you dress up like John Ceno.

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00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:30,320
Speaker 1: These kids are getting coats made to look like Cody Rhodes.

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Speaker 1: It's a very different thing. I don't think you want

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Speaker 1: to stick a pin in that quite yet. What do

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Speaker 1: you think, Terrell?

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Speaker 2: I hear everything you're saying, but I still think the

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00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:43,719
Speaker 2: seth Rolins piece is left out and he has now

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00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:46,240
Speaker 2: created himself. I know you may not like the character,

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00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:48,880
Speaker 2: but a lot of people like the character, and I

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00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:51,160
Speaker 2: think that he has, like the eddle to do, he

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00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:52,799
Speaker 2: has something to do with all of this.

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Speaker 1: You said what, I think they like the entrance. I

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00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:58,040
Speaker 1: don't think the character has been defined for some time.

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Speaker 1: And I think what you do is you have punk.

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Speaker 1: I think you're doing two nights of SummerSlam now, that's

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Speaker 1: where you have punkin and seth rawlins and you can

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Speaker 1: and fire it up again if you want. I don't

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00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:10,279
Speaker 1: think it's gonna be a long run for Punk at

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Speaker 1: the top, to be honest, Physically, I don't know if

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00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:15,680
Speaker 1: he can handle it. But it's gonna be interesting to see.

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Speaker 1: Who are your picks for the Royal Rumbo? Drop him

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Speaker 1: in the comments you're on the YouTube channel. Subscribe to

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Speaker 1: the YouTube channel. If you enjoy this, go talk about

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Speaker 1: on the survey say more wrestling content from these three yahoos.

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Speaker 1: Go to betting pros dot com slash survey so we

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Speaker 1: can do a WrestleMania show. I can't even say survey survey,

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Speaker 1: not survey unless you are I don't know, Sean Connery

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Speaker 1: It's slash survey is a hard thing to shay. Slash survey.

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Speaker 1: See I got it the last time, and make your

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Speaker 1: voice heard. Those are our picks for the Rumble. I

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00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:51,319
Speaker 1: think we all agree Cody Rhoades is gonna win. We

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00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:55,759
Speaker 1: all nod yes, Cody Rose wins. You guys before let's

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00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:58,200
Speaker 1: do one conspiracy mark theory before we get out of here.

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Speaker 1: Go because you don't think Seth.

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00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:02,440
Speaker 3: You don't think Seth rawlins and Gunther is a big

1112
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:05,000
Speaker 3: enough wrestleming right now. So what if John Cena wins

1113
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:07,680
Speaker 3: the elimination chamber and he challenges gun there? So you

1114
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:10,560
Speaker 3: got Sena and gun there. And if we look at

1115
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:12,000
Speaker 3: the odds, if you don't think you want to be

1116
00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:14,120
Speaker 3: on c and Punk because he's plus one fifty, Roman

1117
00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:17,320
Speaker 3: reigns at plus twelve hundred, we still have that cm

1118
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Speaker 3: Punk favorite. I was wondering Punk cashes it in and

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Speaker 3: they make it a triple threat Cody Punk. Wow.

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Speaker 1: I was thinking of that once again. You and I

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00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:29,920
Speaker 1: are in the same booking minds out, which is why

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Speaker 1: I love you. I was thinking that same thing is

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00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:34,560
Speaker 1: when do we get the favor? And do we get

1124
00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:36,760
Speaker 1: it because do they pull.

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Speaker 2: Men in the main event?

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Speaker 1: Well, you know what, Triple h polled the same thing,

1127
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:41,840
Speaker 1: and then we'll get out of here. You know the

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna make you want it more thing. You know

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna have Cody lose that first time. Do we

1130
00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:50,400
Speaker 1: have Punk lose the rumble lose elimination chamber and then

1131
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Speaker 1: have to call in the favor to backdoor his way

1132
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Speaker 1: into wrestle media. I mean that would be the very

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Speaker 1: short abridged version. The four month version is most of

1134
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Speaker 1: the year version of waiting for Cody Rhodes. But I

1135
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:01,759
Speaker 1: did think of about that this morning. Here's my only

1136
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:04,880
Speaker 1: thing physically. I'm just worried about him getting there. Like

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Speaker 1: I just I love where your head's at. I just

1138
00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:11,000
Speaker 1: worry about it. But who knows. What's the Paul Haymond

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00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:14,320
Speaker 1: favor dropped that the comments to all the speculation, Terrell

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00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:15,480
Speaker 1: sal this was super.

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00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:18,239
Speaker 3: Cool on one fun fact before if you had.

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00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:21,759
Speaker 1: Something, he's He's got one more thing before you go.

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00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:24,920
Speaker 3: He had seem punk at the thirteenth in your listening order.

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00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:28,040
Speaker 3: Only one wrestler has won Raw Rumble from the number

1145
00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:30,600
Speaker 3: thirteenth spot. Who do you guys think it was?

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00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:34,440
Speaker 1: From thirteen? I'm gonna go with the stone cold Seve

1147
00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:35,919
Speaker 1: Auston because he won a couple of times. It gives

1148
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:36,680
Speaker 1: me some mounts.

1149
00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:39,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna say Sean Michaels because he won

1150
00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:40,960
Speaker 2: a couple of times. I know he did it one

1151
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:42,399
Speaker 2: and one time and hopefully the other one.

1152
00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:43,959
Speaker 1: Was he didn't one. I knew that for sure.

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00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:49,080
Speaker 3: The first rumble ever nine Jim saw Jim Doug Wow.

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Speaker 1: Also a historian? Is CM punkins Well? And who was

1155
00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:55,319
Speaker 1: that raw recently? By the way, No, he was. He

1156
00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:56,920
Speaker 1: was at Saturday Sound of Man event. That's what it was,

1157
00:51:56,960 --> 00:52:00,640
Speaker 1: Saturday Man event. Hack saw Jim Duggan. There you go,

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Speaker 1: Easter eggs, Easter eggs. Let's go, baby, let's go. It's

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Speaker 1: rumble season. The road to WrestleMania is just beginning. Subscribe

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Speaker 1: story of the game goes on for salam to real.

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