1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:05,480 Speaker 1: Well, well, well, the All Star break has coming gone. 2 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:08,879 Speaker 1: We're getting ready for the playoff push around the league. 3 00:00:09,039 --> 00:00:11,720 Speaker 1: Games are about to start up here in the past, 4 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:14,159 Speaker 1: I guess they've already started up for you listening. In 5 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:17,599 Speaker 1: the future, we're gonna recap some of the some of 6 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 1: our favorite moments in the All Star weekend. We're going 7 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 1: to discuss the state of the AM I seeing this right, Lakers, 8 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 1: and plenty more with singer artist, NBA writer Claire de 9 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 1: Loom on today's episode. I'm Jack O'Brien and this is 10 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:39,479 Speaker 1: JABORI and from Miles and this is Miles and jackets 11 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 1: seez dog? Sorry, got it? Look a dog hitch. Okay, 12 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 1: there you go and be driving spinning. So bunch got 13 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:57,800 Speaker 1: it with five? Is going to try another three? 14 00:00:58,640 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 2: Mister? 15 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:10,680 Speaker 1: Okay, change to Claire. What's going on? Hi? It's good 16 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:14,760 Speaker 1: to be back, a returning champion, one of our faves. 17 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 1: Great to have you back. Your album dropped, Spirit of 18 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 1: the Staircase. 19 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 3: It did, yeah November, Yeah, congratulations, thank you so much. 20 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 1: The band is Tiny Deaths. I think I know what. 21 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 1: That's a reference to naps. It's a reference to naps, right, yeah, 22 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 1: because sleep is the cousin of death. 23 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:38,839 Speaker 4: I thought it was every Laker lossy. 24 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 1: So we this is an unbiased podcast, just three unbiased 25 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 1: journalists kicking it around, have no uh, you know, affinity 26 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 1: for any particular NBA team. But before we get to 27 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 1: the Lakers and just like what's going on around the 28 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 1: league as we head into the playoff push, I did 29 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 1: want to check in how was everybody's All Star weekend? 30 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 2: Like what was what? 31 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 1: But maybe we could open with the best thing you 32 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:15,079 Speaker 1: saw this whole weekend? Mine was. I think it was 33 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:20,080 Speaker 1: just like phone videos of Luca and warm ups doing 34 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:24,120 Speaker 1: those like half court sho. 35 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 3: Bounce when he called bounce and then it actually bounced in. 36 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:32,639 Speaker 1: I was like, it's cheap spell. 37 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:33,919 Speaker 3: Did you cast that? 38 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:37,079 Speaker 1: He is like truly a magician with the ball, Like 39 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 1: I said that about people with ball handling, but his 40 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:45,239 Speaker 1: shot making is so like Jabari and I were talking 41 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 1: about this earlier that you know, usually with great shooters, 42 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:54,640 Speaker 1: their their shot generally like always looks the same. Yeah, 43 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 1: you know, they have a like Steph's shot. You you 44 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 1: just like know what it's going to look like and 45 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 1: you kind of know that the path the ball is 46 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 1: going to travel. Yeah, Luca just can do. Also, it 47 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 1: truly is like wizardry. 48 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, it really is. 49 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 1: I don't like it. It freaks me out. 50 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:17,799 Speaker 3: I need him and I need him and Jokic to 51 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 3: end up on the same team, both because they seem 52 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:22,239 Speaker 3: like they're good friends who enjoy each other's company, but 53 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:24,920 Speaker 3: also because they're the only two people in the league 54 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:27,519 Speaker 3: that I personally think have that in common where it's like, 55 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 3: it's not like you look like you know what you're doing. 56 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:32,799 Speaker 3: It's like you look like there was a magical spell. 57 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 1: Calf. 58 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 3: You had one wish and it was to be the 59 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 3: best basketball player alive, and it came true, and now 60 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 3: nothing can leave your hand without going in. 61 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I watch this. 62 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 4: I just have to say, for the rest of the 63 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 4: basketball loving world that is not a Mavericks or Denver fan, 64 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 4: why are you wishing this upon us? 65 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 1: Because I can't tell you now. 66 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 4: There are several combinations of players in the league that 67 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 4: I absolutely don't want to see if it's not on 68 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 4: my team. And that's that's pretty high up there. 69 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 1: Wait, I'm sorry. Isn't the implication always that every good 70 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 1: player is going to end up playing for the Lakers. Obviously, 71 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 1: Claire was implying that this would be with the Lakers, 72 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:15,119 Speaker 1: that they would. 73 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 3: Be wearing the You know what, what I was revealing 74 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:21,479 Speaker 3: is my ultimate truth, which is that above any allegiance 75 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:24,280 Speaker 3: to any team or any fandom, I'm just a fan 76 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:28,160 Speaker 3: of excellence, guys, and I just want to see excellent 77 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 3: basketball at the highest level. And also I'm a fan 78 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 3: of friendship. I think friendship is first and foremost my 79 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:37,280 Speaker 3: priority in this life. 80 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 1: So I just wondered, Yeah, anti friends. Yeah, yeah, And 81 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:49,720 Speaker 1: Luca's energy like he's he's winning me over, like he 82 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 1: has Jabari you made. You made the point that he 83 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 1: has like some Golden Retriever energy to him, Like he 84 00:04:57,320 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 1: just like seems he's just like kind of like bounce. 85 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 3: I feel like he has Mutt. He definitely has dog energy, 86 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:06,600 Speaker 3: but I feel like he has Mutt energy. Yeah, yeah, 87 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:08,560 Speaker 3: just dog than golden because I think he seems a 88 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 3: little more like like Golden Retrievers seem like there's just 89 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 3: nothing going on behind the eyes in a way that's 90 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:16,599 Speaker 3: really charming. They're just sort of like I'm just happy 91 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 3: to be here. Yeah, Luca, Like, no Golden Retriever would 92 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:23,360 Speaker 3: complain that much to a referee. That's right, I feel 93 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 3: confident in that assertion. Yeah, it's some terrier in him, 94 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:28,280 Speaker 3: I think, is my point. 95 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, he reminds me of like when our dogs would 96 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:34,840 Speaker 1: like get to a yard after being cooped up too 97 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 1: long and just like they're just psyched to be there 98 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 1: and they're running around yeah. Fun, but also they're complaining 99 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:44,040 Speaker 1: endlessly when they're not in the yard. You know. 100 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:46,679 Speaker 3: Like, So did you feel because you said he's growing 101 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:49,720 Speaker 3: on you? Did you feel because I felt like I 102 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 3: am a huge Luca fan. I love him, I love 103 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 3: watching him. The All Star Game attitude like really irked me. 104 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 3: It was his attitude and his in particular. It wasn't 105 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 3: just him, but I felt like he was the worst 106 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:05,680 Speaker 3: about it because he didn't he he didn't even really 107 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:07,599 Speaker 3: have like a moment in the game where he seemed 108 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 3: like he gave a crap. And I feel like at 109 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 3: least some of the other players, they're like, all right, 110 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:14,719 Speaker 3: I'm gonna like phone it in for ninety five percent 111 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 3: of this game, but I'm going. 112 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 1: To like do this one fun a cool thing. 113 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, And Luca was just like, I literally have my 114 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 3: uber black booked to the airport for forty five minutes 115 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:25,480 Speaker 3: from now. 116 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 1: Are we done yet, He was like, didn't you see 117 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:31,040 Speaker 1: what I did in warm ups? That was cool? Yeah, 118 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 1: that was done? Here? 119 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:34,480 Speaker 3: Can you do the check shot on the court? Luca? 120 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 3: Is that so much to ask? Can you do something 121 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 3: cool during the game? 122 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 1: It does make me want to like as shot making 123 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 1: has entered like new levels of like greatness and also 124 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 1: like new dimensions where people are just like making it 125 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 1: from uh so far away. It does Dame half. 126 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 3: Court shot was really cool. I don't want to hear 127 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:54,600 Speaker 3: any hate about that. 128 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:57,560 Speaker 1: I'm not. I was happy to see it. Yeah, that 129 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 1: because I feel it. It's a thing that is in 130 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 1: my mind when I'm watching an NBA game is like, man, 131 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:06,600 Speaker 1: he could just like pull up from anywhere, Like when 132 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 1: are we gonna just games start doing that? Like that's 133 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 1: the offense, Whereas. 134 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 3: Luca was like, I do not dream of labor, which 135 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 3: you know I understand. But my favorite, okay, my favorite 136 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 3: moment from All Star Weekend. I love all the videos 137 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 3: of people of players with their kids. That's truly my achilles. 138 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 3: I feel like like any video behind the scenes of 139 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 3: a player with their child, like Damian Lillard's daughter taking 140 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 3: his picture with a disposable camera or Bam, like messing 141 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 3: with Jason Tatum's kid. I also really liked when Lebron 142 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 3: was trolling Luca on the bench and talking about his 143 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 3: first All Star appearance and he was like, yeah, it 144 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 3: was nineteen sixty eight. It was me and both Chamberlain and. 145 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 1: I. 146 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 3: Honestly, I wish there was more of that. Yeah, wud 147 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 3: be my number one if I was named commissioner tomorrow. 148 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 3: If Adam Silver was like, dude, I've had enough exam. 149 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, we're not sure that that's not going to happen. 150 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 3: We can It's hard to say, but if the way 151 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 3: is he Adam, here's my pitch. 152 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 4: No. 153 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 3: Well as famously, I'm next in line to be NBA commissioner, 154 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 3: so I mean it's a matter of time. I'm the 155 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 3: Kendle Roll. That's not what you want to be at all. 156 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 3: I don't think that's what you want to be either, actually, 157 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 3: come to think of it. Anyway, my first change would 158 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:33,440 Speaker 3: be that you could pay a premium package. You had 159 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:35,319 Speaker 3: to prove that you're over eighteen, but you could pay 160 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:38,600 Speaker 3: a premium package to hear a miked up alt cast 161 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 3: of every NBA game, and like they could take turns 162 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:45,959 Speaker 3: making up different players on each team like for a 163 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:48,679 Speaker 3: few minutes a game or whatever, but like the stuff 164 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:51,439 Speaker 3: they say on the bench, like the trash talk. I 165 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 3: want to hear all of it. That is like one 166 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:55,719 Speaker 3: of the most fun parts of the game, and we 167 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 3: don't get it except for in very small, very watered 168 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 3: down doses. So I would love to hear more. 169 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 1: It is. What's great about basketball compared to other sports 170 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 1: is that we just like get full access to their 171 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:14,679 Speaker 1: face to like their personality on the court. They're just 172 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:19,720 Speaker 1: there fully for us to drink in. I didn't mean 173 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 1: to make that sound that creepy, but the you know, 174 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:25,439 Speaker 1: if they yeah, if we got more access to the 175 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 1: miked up stuff, that would be great. Sorry my pitch 176 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 1: on the shot making though, Like I I know they 177 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:35,079 Speaker 1: did horse during the pandemic. Yeah it was cool, but 178 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:38,199 Speaker 1: it wasn't like I feel like a like, you know, 179 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 1: full packed house for a horse game between like Luca 180 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:46,319 Speaker 1: and Steph or something, you know, like somebody who's an 181 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 1: amated Stephan Dame and Luca. I feel like Jokic, like 182 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:54,840 Speaker 1: I want to see that weird shots like that would 183 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:56,199 Speaker 1: be so out. 184 00:09:56,559 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 3: Would love to see. 185 00:09:59,480 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 2: More. 186 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 3: Silly Do we have more silliness, like just more silly games, 187 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:07,840 Speaker 3: more like just fun. I mean, I feel like, make 188 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:11,439 Speaker 3: the skills challenge even weirder, make it even goofier. I 189 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 3: want people having to hula hoop at half court before 190 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 3: they try and pull up for a shot. Yeah, I 191 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 3: just like, bring me the hijinks. 192 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 4: You know, here for it. 193 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 1: And what was your moment of the weekend. 194 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 4: I'm actually piggybacking on Claire's point. I am an absolute 195 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 4: sucker with jack and I discussed this before the show. 196 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:34,079 Speaker 4: I'm a sucker for any behind the scenes footage. I 197 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 4: love seeing the old school footage in fact, especially of 198 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 4: the players and the moment. My best moment was when 199 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 4: they showed Haimi haak. 200 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:45,079 Speaker 1: Is as a kid. Oh I love that dunking on 201 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 1: the smaller court. 202 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, those mom or whomever was in the background asked, 203 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 4: you know, like who are you and he's like, I'm Shack. 204 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 4: And then forward to you know, this year's dunk contest, 205 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 4: and you know, I think Jackie have the point that 206 00:10:57,360 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 4: you made probably one of the best dunks of the night, 207 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 4: if not the best duncan that he's jumping over Shack from. Yeah, 208 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:06,440 Speaker 4: read their lying, so you know moments like that coming 209 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 4: full circle in any of the behind the scenes stuff, 210 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:10,560 Speaker 4: you know, that's my preference for sure. 211 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:12,719 Speaker 1: That was my favorite dunk of the night, Like the 212 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:16,640 Speaker 1: fact that he windmilled, jumped from distance, jumped. 213 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 3: Over the underrated dunk. I was both him and Jacob Toppin. 214 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 3: I'm like justice for them because of their dunks, Like 215 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 3: Jalen Brown jumped over a guy who was like five 216 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 3: to two on a good day sitting in a chair 217 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 3: and got a forty nine. And JJJ, who I understand 218 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 3: is not Jalen Brown caliber of All Star, but he is, 219 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:37,199 Speaker 3: like he has been a starter for the most of 220 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:39,599 Speaker 3: the year for Miami. It's not like he's he's not 221 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:43,079 Speaker 3: a g leaguer, you know, And he was. He was 222 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:44,839 Speaker 3: putting himself on the line as well to do the 223 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 3: dunk contest and maybe should have gotten the benefit of 224 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 3: the doubt with his scores as well. I thought, you know, 225 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:51,320 Speaker 3: like I heard a lot of talk about, like, oh, well, 226 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:53,199 Speaker 3: Jaylen Brown, it's really good for the league to have 227 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 3: stars of that caliber participating, and I'm like, it absolutely is, 228 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 3: and I don't think they're wrong, but I think you 229 00:11:57,960 --> 00:12:00,960 Speaker 3: could put Himahawks in the category of like a star 230 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 3: that didn't really necessarily have that much to gain, Like 231 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:06,199 Speaker 3: he's a rookie, but he's in the top five, like 232 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 3: rookie of the year conversation. So yeah, I thought also 233 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 3: very underrated. 234 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:13,199 Speaker 1: Just from a novelty perspective, is the first time we've 235 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:17,319 Speaker 1: seen someone do it dunk that that spectacular with like 236 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:20,439 Speaker 1: guy at a fish concert hair and like there's just 237 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 1: that that's unique, Like that's gonna stick in my mind, 238 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 1: like those those locks flowing behind him as he jumps 239 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 1: over shack and windmills. 240 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:31,560 Speaker 3: I decided what he looks like because I've been trying 241 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:33,079 Speaker 3: to figureut. I'm like, what does he remind me of? 242 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 3: He looks like like a villain in like an early 243 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 3: two thousand's Western movie. 244 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, he looks like he could be 245 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 1: in the Cowboys like the Tombstone Bad Guys, or like. 246 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:47,679 Speaker 3: The Wild Wild West like the Will Smith Salmahayak. Like 247 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:50,880 Speaker 3: he looks like a villain in that. Yes, it's the 248 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 3: facial hair more than the like the head of hair. 249 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:55,720 Speaker 3: The head of hair is just immaculate in any time, 250 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 3: any era, any movie category. The facial hair is giving 251 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 3: early two thousand's iteration of a wild Western villain. 252 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:06,720 Speaker 1: It's given wiki wild, wild Wicked. 253 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 3: It's given wiki West. Yeah. 254 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 1: Absolutely, but Wooden Spider. Yeah, all right, let's uh, let's 255 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:28,120 Speaker 1: take a quick break and we'll be right back. And 256 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 1: we're back. And a couple of teams that are kind 257 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 1: of heading into the All Star break hot. I don't 258 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 1: know who do we want to talk about? Guys, there's 259 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:43,319 Speaker 1: oh yeah, look at this, the Lakers are are a 260 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 1: little hot heading in. There's seven and three over the 261 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 1: last ten, six and one over there last seven. They 262 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 1: that there's the stat about uh lebron A, d Reeves, 263 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:01,959 Speaker 1: d Lo each average twenty points in five assists for 264 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 1: the month of February. How how much has Dlo been 265 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 1: involved in the six and one run here? 266 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 3: I mean it's he's been huge for them. I wouldn't 267 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:15,199 Speaker 3: say like this team lives and dies by dil I 268 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:17,560 Speaker 3: wouldn't go that dramatic because I do think one healthy, 269 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 3: like they have enough depth to weather a bad deal 270 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 3: game here and there. But I would say that the 271 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:26,200 Speaker 3: alternate side of that coin is that him playing at 272 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 3: his highest level, which I do think like this is 273 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 3: Delo's ceiling. I don't think that there's another level for 274 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 3: him to reach. I think Delo's been basically playing the 275 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 3: best he can possibly play. He hit like a career 276 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 3: high and assists the other night. I think it was 277 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:41,280 Speaker 3: like seventeen or eighteen assists in a game. He's been excellent, 278 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 3: and that really raises their ceiling as a team. Like, 279 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 3: if Dilo is the best Delo he can be, the 280 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 3: Lakers ceiling goes from like struggling in the play in 281 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 3: to like maybe can make some noise in the playoffs 282 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 3: for sure, especially with a healthy Lebron and a healthy AD. 283 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:01,600 Speaker 3: So I think that it's been hugely impactful. I also think, 284 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 3: to your point about some of the names you rattled off, 285 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 3: what do you know when you actually play the starting 286 00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:12,200 Speaker 3: lineup from the Western Conference finals last year? Good things happen, 287 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 3: it turns out, And it took a good you know, 288 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 3: four or five months for that to become the starting lineup. 289 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 3: But it's almost as if the thing that worked last. 290 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 1: Year works so it would work again. 291 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 4: Nah, Almost as if like if you have Ruy in 292 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 4: a starting you know situation, he's going to absolutely play 293 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 4: like a you know, championship level role player. 294 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 1: You can play. 295 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:40,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, far be it from me to you know, try 296 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 3: and cosplay as an NBA coach. But I feel like 297 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:46,720 Speaker 3: if something worked a few months ago and all those 298 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 3: people are still healthy, it might be worth a try 299 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 3: because it might work again. It's just kind of like 300 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 3: a pretty fool proof thesis. Yeah, so yeah, do you. 301 00:15:57,840 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 4: Think they need to like find a way to claw 302 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 4: their way out of the play in situation or does 303 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 4: it matter as long as as long as those guys 304 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 4: as you just mentioned are healthy. 305 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 3: I mean, I think when you're arguably, I mean I 306 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:12,440 Speaker 3: would say, actually this year, Anthony Davis is pretty solidly 307 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 3: their best player. But when you're there's an argument that 308 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 3: could be made that your best player is turning forty 309 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:20,040 Speaker 3: this year. I think it's always good to play less 310 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:22,760 Speaker 3: games versus more games. I think that's just a generally 311 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 3: good rule of thumb. That being said, Like weirdly, matchup wise, 312 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 3: for the Lakers, I think they're some of their better 313 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 3: matchups are going to end up towards the top of 314 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:36,240 Speaker 3: the Western Conference. As far as like who they match 315 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 3: up well against, Like I think Thunder, like the Thunder, 316 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:44,120 Speaker 3: the Timberwolves. I think that those teams are like a 317 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 3: lot of what the Timberwolves have been dominating based on 318 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 3: is their size. They're huge and dominant, especially defensively, and 319 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 3: the Lakers are one of the only teams in the 320 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 3: West that has that size and that length to match 321 00:16:56,480 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 3: up with them. So I feel like that's actually a 322 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:02,200 Speaker 3: good matchup for the Lakers. And then like the Thunder 323 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:07,160 Speaker 3: alternately are very small on by design, like that's kind 324 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:10,399 Speaker 3: of they're small, that's how the team is set up, 325 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:13,160 Speaker 3: and then the Lakers' size can kind of like combat 326 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:16,240 Speaker 3: that well. Also, the Lakers have a ton of playoff experience. 327 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:19,960 Speaker 3: The Thunder have no playoff experience. But then once you 328 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:22,960 Speaker 3: get into the play in and like also into like 329 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:24,720 Speaker 3: maybe what's going to end up being like the four 330 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:27,600 Speaker 3: or five six seed, you get the Phoenix Suns, you 331 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:31,640 Speaker 3: get the Warriors. You get some teams that can exploit 332 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:35,639 Speaker 3: the Lakers' weaknesses and also can do things that they 333 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 3: can't do aka like consistently shoot well from beyond the arc. 334 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 1: So we should mention the Warriors that the Warriors. So, 335 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:46,960 Speaker 1: Lakers and a bunch of other teams are seven and 336 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:50,440 Speaker 1: three over the last ten. The best record in the 337 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:54,040 Speaker 1: league over the last ten is Cleveland in the Eastern Conference, 338 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:56,800 Speaker 1: but a lot of teams in the West are seven 339 00:17:56,840 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 1: and three over the last ten. You get the Wolves, 340 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:04,120 Speaker 1: got the Clippers, you got the Suns, the Pelicans, the mevs. 341 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:08,639 Speaker 1: The Lakers, But the best record in the West Golden 342 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:12,600 Speaker 1: State Warriors eight and two. They're they're starting to put 343 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:17,960 Speaker 1: some momentum together and they're coming coming. I mean, is 344 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:20,639 Speaker 1: it just Draymond being back and like kind of locked in. 345 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:22,119 Speaker 1: What do we think's going on? 346 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:24,359 Speaker 3: I think it's the same. I would say it's a 347 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:27,360 Speaker 3: very similar thing to what's transpiring for the Lakers, which 348 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:29,720 Speaker 3: is that it's an alchemy of a lot of different 349 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 3: things starting to break, right, Like Andrew Wiggins has been 350 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 3: playing better, Clay has been playing better, Draymond is back, 351 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:40,080 Speaker 3: which then unlocks Steph Curry. Kaminga went through a weird 352 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:42,200 Speaker 3: little phase earlier this year where he was throwing a 353 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:45,440 Speaker 3: tantrum about his minutes and that kind of created some riffs. 354 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:47,960 Speaker 3: But now he's playing better and he's getting more minutes. 355 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:51,919 Speaker 3: I also think that for both the Warriors and the Lakers, 356 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 3: it was super impactful to have the trade deadline come 357 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:56,560 Speaker 3: and go, because I think there were a lot of 358 00:18:56,600 --> 00:18:58,600 Speaker 3: guys on both of those teams that were just sort 359 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:02,000 Speaker 3: of like waiting, trembling in a corner, waiting for their 360 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:04,240 Speaker 3: names to be called, to get shipped to Detroit or 361 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:07,320 Speaker 3: like Chicago or whatever. And those guys all know their 362 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 3: jobs are safe at least through the rest of the year. 363 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:11,880 Speaker 3: And so I think that was really impactful for both 364 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:14,640 Speaker 3: of those teams. But I think for for the Warriors 365 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:16,800 Speaker 3: as well as the Lakers, like it is like an 366 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:19,280 Speaker 3: alchemy of a bunch of things starting to click. And 367 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:21,920 Speaker 3: I just don't understand how people can watch the horror 368 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:25,120 Speaker 3: movie of like Lebron James and Stephen Curry every single 369 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:28,879 Speaker 3: playoffs since I was like in college and like what 370 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:32,119 Speaker 3: they're capable of in a postseason setting and have been 371 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:35,399 Speaker 3: writing them off in like December January. I just couldn't 372 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:35,600 Speaker 3: be me. 373 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 1: Wouldn't be me? 374 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:40,040 Speaker 4: Right, get bored if folks get bored, and they always 375 00:19:40,040 --> 00:19:42,120 Speaker 4: want to, you know, move on to the next when 376 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 4: it's like, yeah, the next. It is good to you know, 377 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 4: represent them and the and to acknowledge them. But Lebron 378 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:50,240 Speaker 4: and you know, Lebron and stuff are not going anywhere anytimes, 379 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 4: or at least not going anywhere. 380 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:51,679 Speaker 1: Right. 381 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:52,920 Speaker 3: We've seen this movie before. 382 00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 1: Yep, like so many times they are sitting at nine 383 00:19:56,560 --> 00:20:00,159 Speaker 1: and ten, they're sitting at the very bottom of the 384 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:00,960 Speaker 1: play in. 385 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:02,960 Speaker 3: I don't think that's going to be true, but my 386 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:06,400 Speaker 3: personal opinion is that by the time the playoffs come, 387 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 3: I would imagine that those two teams are at least 388 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 3: maybe like seven, eight, eight, nine somewhere in They're gonna 389 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:15,200 Speaker 3: be sought. They're gonna make the play in most this 390 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:16,120 Speaker 3: is not a hot take. 391 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 4: Most likely to be lead frogged and you know what, 392 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:22,359 Speaker 4: this is official, so we're gonna we're gonna hold you 393 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:25,960 Speaker 4: do this now. Is Sacramento and New Orleans of those 394 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:28,440 Speaker 4: teams which are most likely to be lead roged. 395 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:31,160 Speaker 3: I feel like Sacramento just does not have it together 396 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 3: this year. There is weird because like their two best 397 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:36,680 Speaker 3: players are playing really well and have all year long. 398 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:39,200 Speaker 3: Also Malik Monk front runner for six minute the year, 399 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:42,639 Speaker 3: so it's not like their their best most impactful players 400 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:45,800 Speaker 3: aren't playing well. There's just something off about this team. 401 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:47,440 Speaker 3: And I know that it's like they don't pay you 402 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:49,119 Speaker 3: the big bucks to be like I don't know, bro 403 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:52,159 Speaker 3: vibes are just off, but like like it's just I 404 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:55,680 Speaker 3: just don't see it for them this year, So I don't. 405 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:58,440 Speaker 3: I think they'll they'll obviously make the playoffs their play 406 00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 3: in but I just don't this isn't the year that 407 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:02,680 Speaker 3: they get over the hump of the first round. I 408 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:07,240 Speaker 3: really don't believe that. And then New Orleans, I don't. 409 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 3: I just don't trust their health. I just think they've 410 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:15,359 Speaker 3: been quite unlucky over the years with health, and for 411 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:18,240 Speaker 3: this year so far, for all intents and purposes, like 412 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:22,600 Speaker 3: relatively healthy, and they still I think are trying to 413 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:24,880 Speaker 3: figure it out. I feel like if they have anybody 414 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:27,960 Speaker 3: miss a significant amount of time down the stretch, it 415 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:30,159 Speaker 3: would be really easy for them to plummet because I 416 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:33,159 Speaker 3: think Zion, like them starting to figure out how to 417 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:35,600 Speaker 3: incorporate Zion into what they're doing down there is a 418 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:39,200 Speaker 3: huge part of their success right now. And if Zion, 419 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:42,680 Speaker 3: you know, lands funny, like God forbid on an ankle 420 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:44,400 Speaker 3: or something like that, Like, I think I could see 421 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:45,440 Speaker 3: them plummeting for sure. 422 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean it does feel like I don't know. 423 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:51,639 Speaker 1: I'm of the mind of like, yeah, but what if not? 424 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:53,840 Speaker 1: What if Zion stays healthy? 425 00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 3: They're the most unpredictable team in the West. I think 426 00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:58,720 Speaker 3: to me, like they're the team where I'm just like, 427 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 3: I don't know what to make of this team, Like 428 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:03,600 Speaker 3: they can be really good. They also got blown out 429 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:07,359 Speaker 3: by forty points by the Lakers in Vegas for the 430 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:10,639 Speaker 3: n Season tournament and looked like a you know, a 431 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:14,360 Speaker 3: relegation team, Like their ceiling is so high and their 432 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:16,560 Speaker 3: floor is so low, and I feel like it's so 433 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:19,119 Speaker 3: hard to predict what's going to happen with them. With 434 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 3: Dallas to your point, the third team you mentioned, I 435 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:23,840 Speaker 3: feel like the opposite for them, Like I feel like 436 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:26,280 Speaker 3: they might climb the standings because they were missing Kyrie 437 00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:29,600 Speaker 3: Irving for like a really significant chunk of this season, 438 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:32,960 Speaker 3: and if they can have him healthy and Luca healthy, 439 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 3: Like I don't think we've seen the ceiling of that team. 440 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:37,359 Speaker 3: I don't want to see that team in a playoff 441 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:38,520 Speaker 3: series if I'm anybody. 442 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:41,119 Speaker 1: They seem like they're the Lakers this year of like 443 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:45,359 Speaker 1: the team that did a few kind of smaller things 444 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 1: through the trade deadline that are really like kind of 445 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:48,880 Speaker 1: really good. 446 00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:52,080 Speaker 3: Honestly, I think so I wrote a trade deadline Winners 447 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:54,560 Speaker 3: and Losers piece like it was an instant reaction to 448 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:57,159 Speaker 3: like Night of the trade deadline, and I didn't have 449 00:22:57,280 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 3: Dallas listed under my winners, and I kind of regret that. 450 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:02,399 Speaker 3: I feel like Gafford was big for them. Like I 451 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:04,760 Speaker 3: feel like they did they did exactly right at the 452 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:07,560 Speaker 3: trade deadline, and it just wasn't like splashy, but it 453 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 3: was meaningful. 454 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 1: Yeah. Other big news out of Lakerland, Lebron says he 455 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:16,720 Speaker 1: is fifty to fifty on whether he'll want a farewell tour. 456 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 1: I think that I think that is a fifty four fifty, 457 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:27,160 Speaker 1: like fifty out of fifty aka or fifty plus fifty. Yeah. 458 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 3: Add it to the memes. Add it to the stack 459 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:30,600 Speaker 3: of Lebron cap memes. 460 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:31,360 Speaker 2: Yeah. 461 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:34,040 Speaker 3: I love Lebron. I'm like the biggest Lebron fan. I 462 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 3: really love him. He has rightfully so cultivated a bit 463 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:41,840 Speaker 3: of a reputation as someone who maybe is prone to embellish, 464 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 3: prone to tell a white lie here and there. I 465 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:49,479 Speaker 3: can understand like him not wanting to be like when 466 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:52,200 Speaker 3: when I'm going to retire, you'll know, and like not 467 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:54,200 Speaker 3: wanting to lock him into that because what if he 468 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:58,000 Speaker 3: gets like a horrible injury, God forbid, and it's just 469 00:23:58,080 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 3: not worth it for him to ramp back up at 470 00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:03,240 Speaker 3: four years old, so I understand like leaving room. However, 471 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:08,240 Speaker 3: health notwithstanding, there is no universe in which Lebron James 472 00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:11,360 Speaker 3: is not Are you kidding me? There's no way he's 473 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:13,680 Speaker 3: not having a farewell tour. It's gonna be like the 474 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:16,720 Speaker 3: there's gonna be pyrotechnics, like this is gonna be the 475 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:19,879 Speaker 3: farewell tour to end all farewell tours. 476 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:22,639 Speaker 1: His farewell tour is going to have the Van Halen 477 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:25,840 Speaker 1: Rider where it's like, all right, I need all green eminems. 478 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:31,440 Speaker 3: Yeah. Literally, we love Lebron because he's a messy bee 479 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 3: who lives for drama. That is part of his appeal. 480 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:36,440 Speaker 3: There's no way he's going to go quietly into the 481 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 3: dark night like it's just not going to freaking happen. 482 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:41,600 Speaker 1: It's going to come in a lion like Katy Perry 483 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:42,639 Speaker 1: in that Super Bowl You. 484 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 3: Heard it here first. When Lebron retires, you will know 485 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:47,840 Speaker 3: for a long time it's. 486 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:49,440 Speaker 1: It's not just gonna be like wake up, oh hey, 487 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:51,280 Speaker 1: by the way, oh Lebron retired. 488 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 3: Wow, It's gonna be like, oh my god, And every 489 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:56,520 Speaker 3: broadcast is going to be like the last time Lebron 490 00:24:56,640 --> 00:25:00,680 Speaker 3: James plays in Oklahoma, City the last time Braun takes 491 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 3: a plane from Oklahoma City to Houston, like it's You're 492 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:05,320 Speaker 3: never gonna hear. 493 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:08,200 Speaker 1: The end of it, and I'm gonna I'm gonna drink 494 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:08,720 Speaker 1: it all. 495 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:10,880 Speaker 3: In and I'm gonna be crying all year long because 496 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 3: I am not ready. 497 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:15,440 Speaker 1: All Right, let's take a quick break, we'll come back, 498 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:16,480 Speaker 1: we'll talk Bucks. 499 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 2: And we'll do the rapid fire random questioning. We'll be 500 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:29,480 Speaker 2: right back, and we're back. 501 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 1: And wanted to check out with the Bucks because heading 502 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 1: into the All Star Break, they had a couple good wins. 503 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:40,560 Speaker 1: I mean the big one they played the Nuggets. They 504 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:43,800 Speaker 1: played really well. They beat the Nuggets pretty soundly. They 505 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:49,240 Speaker 1: looked good on defense. But overall, since they let Adrian 506 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:57,119 Speaker 1: Griffin go, it's been a real adjustment period. And I 507 00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:59,240 Speaker 1: don't know, I mean that sometimes that happens, you know, 508 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:02,680 Speaker 1: Sometimes you need to get the new system in place, 509 00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:05,600 Speaker 1: you need to get the chemistry right. Usually it doesn't 510 00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:10,119 Speaker 1: last quite this long. And yeah, I'm just they are 511 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:13,960 Speaker 1: probably the team I'm most intrigued to see. Like that 512 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:16,639 Speaker 1: feels like it could be similar to what you were 513 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:19,800 Speaker 1: saying with the Pelicans. Feels like it could go in 514 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:23,399 Speaker 1: wildly different directions. I would be surprised if it like 515 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:26,840 Speaker 1: continued on this path of you know, being three and 516 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:29,640 Speaker 1: seven over the last ten, including a twenty six point 517 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:31,960 Speaker 1: loss to the Heat. I would be surprised if that 518 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:36,119 Speaker 1: keeps up. But I don't know. It could obviously because 519 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:38,159 Speaker 1: they haven't quite figured out what's going on. 520 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:41,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, a few things with the Bucks thing Number one, 521 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:43,600 Speaker 3: I think Doc has rightfully been taking a lot of 522 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:48,680 Speaker 3: heat for just his tendency to deflect his absolute reticence 523 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:50,280 Speaker 3: to accept any responsibility. 524 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:54,680 Speaker 1: Claire, I wouldn't wish this job on my worst worst enemy. 525 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:57,960 Speaker 3: I wouldn't wish a job taking over for a team 526 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:01,880 Speaker 3: that somehow has a championship xpace but also no expectations 527 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:04,120 Speaker 3: at the same time, Like, yeah, that job must suck, 528 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 3: Like what are you talk This is the best job obviously. 529 00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:09,240 Speaker 3: This isn't the beginning of him not taking a responsibility. 530 00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:12,600 Speaker 3: This is like dates back to many years of his career. 531 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:16,040 Speaker 3: He literally makes it sound like the Bucks made him 532 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:18,959 Speaker 3: do this job at gunpoint, like it's crazy you were 533 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:21,359 Speaker 3: you could just say no, bro, Like you could just 534 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:23,480 Speaker 3: say no. There's like lots of other people who would 535 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:26,119 Speaker 3: have wanted this job. That being said, the Bucks are 536 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:28,760 Speaker 3: interesting to me because I think in a playoff setting, 537 00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:31,840 Speaker 3: as we know, the margins of playoff games are one. 538 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:35,159 Speaker 3: It's like, do you have the guy on your side 539 00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:38,360 Speaker 3: who can just make it happen when everything else breaks down, 540 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:41,399 Speaker 3: when when all the plans fall by the wayside, when 541 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:43,159 Speaker 3: the defense is breaked down, Like, do you have the 542 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:45,440 Speaker 3: guy that can just go iso and just like get 543 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:48,600 Speaker 3: you a magical shot? And Damian Allard is that guy 544 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 3: and that's why they added him. I just don't think, like, 545 00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:54,920 Speaker 3: to me, this is a team built on a very 546 00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:59,000 Speaker 3: unstable foundation, which is that this man did not want 547 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:02,040 Speaker 3: to go there, and he made his desire. First of all, 548 00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:03,879 Speaker 3: this man wanted to stay in Portland, Lovely. Let's be 549 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:07,480 Speaker 3: abundantly clear. What happened was he signed an extension because 550 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:10,840 Speaker 3: he planned to retire a Trailblazer, because they had promised him, like, 551 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:12,640 Speaker 3: if you sit out the rest of the season, even 552 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:14,800 Speaker 3: though you're not really injured, we're going to get a 553 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:16,639 Speaker 3: high draft pick that we can then trade to get 554 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:19,439 Speaker 3: you some help over here in Portland, and we're going 555 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 3: to make a run of it because you just had 556 00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:24,560 Speaker 3: the best year of your career. Statistically and you deserve help. 557 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:27,240 Speaker 3: Then they found out that they could get Scoot Henderson 558 00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:29,399 Speaker 3: at that number three pick, and they felt like they 559 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:31,359 Speaker 3: had hit the lottery because they thought he was going 560 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:34,600 Speaker 3: to be like the next base of the Trailblazers. And 561 00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:38,240 Speaker 3: they renegged on that offer, and that's when Dame demanded 562 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:41,760 Speaker 3: a trade. Understand I think understandably so, and because he 563 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:43,680 Speaker 3: had put in, you know, like he got his little 564 00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:46,200 Speaker 3: plaque and like trip to Bermuda, because he'd put in, 565 00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:48,600 Speaker 3: however many years with the company. He's like, I'd like 566 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:52,840 Speaker 3: to go to Miami, and they didn't send him there, 567 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:55,240 Speaker 3: And in my opinion, the package they got back for him, 568 00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:58,680 Speaker 3: you know, through a multi team trade with the Bucks 569 00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:01,040 Speaker 3: not much better, I don't think than what they could 570 00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:03,320 Speaker 3: have gotten from Miami, at least if they had been 571 00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:06,160 Speaker 3: willing to involve a third team. So this team was 572 00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:09,840 Speaker 3: built on all of that baggage, all of that drama happening, 573 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:13,560 Speaker 3: and then Dame coming to Milwaukee and being like, well, 574 00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:14,760 Speaker 3: I'm going to try and make the best of it. 575 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:17,920 Speaker 3: Like Johannes is great. This is like a pretty good 576 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:20,480 Speaker 3: situation all things considered. But it's not like he was 577 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:23,200 Speaker 3: like Milwaukee's where I want to be, you know, this 578 00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:25,120 Speaker 3: is where I want to go. And so I feel 579 00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:27,000 Speaker 3: like they got off on a weird foot. There was 580 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:29,720 Speaker 3: weird vibes from the jump because everyone knew. He made 581 00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:31,560 Speaker 3: it very public that he wanted to go to not 582 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:35,400 Speaker 3: just another team, but like a rival Eastern Conference teamed 583 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:39,160 Speaker 3: to the Milwaukee Bucks. Yeah, and I also think that 584 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:43,760 Speaker 3: like his skill set, like Drew Holliday, I think is 585 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:45,760 Speaker 3: more of a two way player than Damian Lillard. I 586 00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:49,720 Speaker 3: don't think that's like controversial to say. And they made 587 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:52,680 Speaker 3: a lot of changes that I think similar to the 588 00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:54,760 Speaker 3: alchemy that we were talking about in these other teams. 589 00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:56,239 Speaker 3: It's like a lot of things had to go right 590 00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:59,760 Speaker 3: for them to be good. A few different dominoes fell 591 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,160 Speaker 3: or the Bucks that are putting them in a really 592 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:04,920 Speaker 3: weird spot. They hired a first time head coach at 593 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:08,440 Speaker 3: the same time as they basically like completely changed how 594 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 3: their offense was going to revolve. It was totally Helio 595 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:13,280 Speaker 3: centric ground Yannis. Now all of a sudden, it's like 596 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:15,520 Speaker 3: you have a second superstar that it needs to revolve 597 00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:17,960 Speaker 3: around too, and they put they laid that in the 598 00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:20,400 Speaker 3: lap of a first year head coach who I think 599 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:22,960 Speaker 3: was just clearly in over his head. I don't think 600 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:25,760 Speaker 3: he was doing a very good job. And at the 601 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:28,480 Speaker 3: same time, you have you know, Brook Lopez starting to 602 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:30,480 Speaker 3: age and like not be able to maybe do some 603 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:32,280 Speaker 3: of the stuff that he was able to do, and 604 00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:35,040 Speaker 3: the rest of the East, some of the like some 605 00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:38,680 Speaker 3: of the East got a little better. So personally, like 606 00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:41,760 Speaker 3: going into the season, I was really optimistic about the Bucks. 607 00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:44,440 Speaker 3: I don't think they're going to like bottom out by 608 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:47,560 Speaker 3: any means. I don't think they're gonna win the championship 609 00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:50,560 Speaker 3: this year. I don't think that's like super controversial to say. 610 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:55,280 Speaker 3: It's just I would I honestly take several Eastern Conference 611 00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:57,719 Speaker 3: teams above them right now, even though in the standings 612 00:30:58,280 --> 00:30:58,840 Speaker 3: they're higher. 613 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:01,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, so this is why we have folks, you know, 614 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:04,320 Speaker 4: let are as bright as clear on because she eloquently 615 00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:06,640 Speaker 4: put you know, put it. I'm just gonna say they're 616 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:08,560 Speaker 4: gonna do the Doc special. They'll be done in the 617 00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:12,160 Speaker 4: second round. Once again, the. 618 00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:14,479 Speaker 1: Second round is tricky. As a Sixers fan, I can 619 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:18,400 Speaker 1: tell you the second round is tricky. Uh, Claire, we 620 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:22,280 Speaker 1: we've got time for too rapid fires for you. Okay, 621 00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 1: this is just you don't think. You just fire it 622 00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:30,680 Speaker 1: back right at us chest, past chess, pass back, be 623 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:34,360 Speaker 1: ready as ready as I'll ever be, Tobar, you want 624 00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:36,560 Speaker 1: to go first, you want me to go first? Why 625 00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:41,440 Speaker 1: don't you go first? Jack? All right? Greatest Lakers player 626 00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:44,920 Speaker 1: ever and most underrated Lakers player of your fandom? Cool? 627 00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:48,680 Speaker 3: Uh, that's such a hard question. That's like the worst 628 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:53,280 Speaker 3: rapid fire question ever. Okay, greatest Lakers player ever. Oh 629 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:55,600 Speaker 3: my god, it's like painful. I'm gonna go Kobe even 630 00:31:55,640 --> 00:32:00,200 Speaker 3: though Magic Johnson's right there, my favorite Lakers player of 631 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:02,200 Speaker 3: my tenure? Are you joking? Lebron James? 632 00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:05,240 Speaker 1: Like what what? And the most underrated Lakers player of 633 00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:05,680 Speaker 1: your fans? 634 00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:13,440 Speaker 3: Underrated? Yeahaviousbe wow, seriously, I still want case b back 635 00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:14,960 Speaker 3: championship maker. 636 00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:21,640 Speaker 1: That's right. Just underrated by Lakers fans Lebron. 637 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:25,560 Speaker 3: James, by the way, it's true, and I don't really 638 00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:29,280 Speaker 3: identify with the Lakers fandom in that way, so I yeah, 639 00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:30,200 Speaker 3: but you're right. 640 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:31,960 Speaker 4: It's not all of us, but there are some of 641 00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:35,560 Speaker 4: us that are very off when it comes to being 642 00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:37,760 Speaker 4: balanced when it comes to discussing the NBA. 643 00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:40,520 Speaker 3: All rightusing the goat keeping it going. 644 00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:43,360 Speaker 4: You said to Jack, all right, who is the most 645 00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:50,560 Speaker 4: underrated NBA social media follow up? I mean not currently 646 00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:52,360 Speaker 4: on this you know show with you. 647 00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:54,840 Speaker 1: Right, obviously the answer would be. 648 00:32:56,440 --> 00:33:00,120 Speaker 3: All three of us underrated. I think Jasmine Watkins. I 649 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:02,600 Speaker 3: don't think she's particularly underrated because, like she does have 650 00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:06,160 Speaker 3: a decent amount of followers, but people like other media 651 00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:09,400 Speaker 3: companies lift her content and like use her ideas constantly, 652 00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:12,240 Speaker 3: so just based on like dollars and cents, I feel 653 00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:14,719 Speaker 3: like she's literally underrated. 654 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:17,960 Speaker 1: Following her. So now I'm following her and now she 655 00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:23,560 Speaker 1: underrated I think two times even. Yeah, yeah, that's one 656 00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:26,960 Speaker 1: of the best. Well, Claire, what a pleasure having you on? 657 00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:28,959 Speaker 3: What a pleasure being here semester? 658 00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:31,760 Speaker 1: Where I got mat Boosti's where can people find you 659 00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:33,360 Speaker 1: hear you all that good stuff? 660 00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:38,360 Speaker 3: Well they can find me on Twitter at Claire mpls, 661 00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:40,840 Speaker 3: c l a iri e m pls or on the 662 00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:44,120 Speaker 3: Guardian Claire de Loon I write for The Guardian about 663 00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:47,280 Speaker 3: the NBA, or if you want to hear me sing, 664 00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:50,200 Speaker 3: you can hear my music. I go buy Tiny Deaths 665 00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:53,920 Speaker 3: for my musical projects, and that's on wherever you stream music. 666 00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:56,840 Speaker 1: There you go. Thank you so much for doing it. Jabari, 667 00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:59,880 Speaker 1: where can they find you at, Jabari Davis NBA. Pretty simple, 668 00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:04,120 Speaker 1: I'm at Jack Underscore O'Brien and you can look for 669 00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:08,680 Speaker 1: hashtag mat Boosties or updates on the show. Shout out 670 00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:14,440 Speaker 1: to listener Gritzy Ross, who is booking doing the booking 671 00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:16,680 Speaker 1: for us. Reached out to Josh Donovan said please go 672 00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:20,520 Speaker 1: back on Hashtag mat Boosties. He said absolutely not, that 673 00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:23,440 Speaker 1: show is amateur. No, he said, I'd go back anytime 674 00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:24,680 Speaker 1: I had such a good. 675 00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:29,319 Speaker 3: Human that's ever existed. I'm going to. 676 00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:30,120 Speaker 2: Let you go, folks. 677 00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:34,040 Speaker 1: He let him know. We said hi and thank you 678 00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:38,040 Speaker 1: for doing it. Claire. We are back next week with 679 00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:40,880 Speaker 1: more mad Boosties and we will talk to you all then. 680 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:42,080 Speaker 1: Bye bye