1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,640 Speaker 1: Welcome into Texans All Access on a Tuesday here in 2 00:00:02,640 --> 00:00:05,000 Speaker 1: the Hunday Texans Radio studio. I'm your host, Depisa do 3 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:08,320 Speaker 1: joining me today, Mark Vandermir Drew Doherty. Hey, guys, how's 4 00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 1: it going? Hello? Well, you know, hey, the cook off 5 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 1: is this weekend. I know I can smell. I can 6 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:18,000 Speaker 1: smell the rodeo, the good and the bad parts of 7 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:21,080 Speaker 1: the rodeo. So late. The animals aren't here yet, are they. 8 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:23,760 Speaker 1: It smells like they're arriving. Smells like they're getting here. 9 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:26,079 Speaker 1: Some of them around, some of them are definitely around, 10 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 1: because the building does not smell like this um and 11 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 1: all the other months. But I'm excited about I don't 12 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 1: want to paint the picture like they just kind of 13 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:34,519 Speaker 1: like chickens walk into the studio and stuff, and you 14 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:38,599 Speaker 1: have the calves in the studio. But it's close enough. Well, 15 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 1: they don't have to check the gatekeepers, the people that 16 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:44,479 Speaker 1: you know, man the gates to entryways to the rodeo. 17 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:47,480 Speaker 1: They assemble out here right outside the studio get ready 18 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 1: each day. So those are they are very good. They're 19 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 1: cross model. Yeah, a couple of days we'll see the 20 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 1: smoke and we'll be smelling the barbecue in the blast. 21 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 1: I remember, I'm always curious when new players or new 22 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 1: coaches arrive here what they think of the whole rodeo 23 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 1: set up, because it's unlike anything ever, and I was 24 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 1: fascinated by it, at least for a good decade of 25 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 1: living here. If you have a visitor to Houston, that's 26 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 1: the thing to bring up to the cook Off first, 27 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 1: because they got to see that city that's set up 28 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 1: out in the lots, and it just looks incredible. The 29 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 1: first time I saw it, I couldn't believe. Every tent 30 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 1: has a band, virtually every tent has unbelievable barbecue. It's incredible. 31 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:24,400 Speaker 1: What the best months of the year in Houston. And 32 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 1: I think that that's kind of that's that's what leads 33 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 1: to the great tailgating that the Texans have. It's that culture. 34 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 1: It's that cookoff culture that happens on game day as well. 35 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 1: It's not just burgers and broths. There's a lot more 36 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 1: menu items here. All Right, in one week, we're gonna 37 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 1: leave this rodeo haven, yes, and we're we're gonna arrive 38 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:45,959 Speaker 1: in Indianapolis, and the players will be arriving in Indianapolis. 39 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 1: The NFL combine kicks off on Wednesday. I know the 40 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 1: Vandermock two point zero is out Drew. You've got one 41 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 1: point actually, oh sorry, that's one point one. Yes, I 42 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 1: thought you had one before that. Are we behind this year? No, No, 43 00:01:56,920 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 1: we're not really behind because I can't. I'm gonna do 44 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 1: one before the com bine. I'll do one after the 45 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 1: combine at some point, and maybe i'll do a third 46 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 1: if I'm in the mood. I was thinking of doing 47 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 1: an all South Carolina College Draft. I even mentioned it 48 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 1: in Vandermarck one point head to gimmicky to, although I 49 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:17,079 Speaker 1: did like, yeah, you should see how I love choices 50 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 1: that players based on names. I loved I loved your 51 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 1: Vandermark this first one. But I loved it in the 52 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 1: sense because one somebody on Twitter responded to the he 53 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:28,639 Speaker 1: tagged us all at it responded to it, this is 54 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:30,799 Speaker 1: a pipe dream, vander Mirror. There's no chance any of 55 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 1: these guys are gonna be But that's why I loved it, 56 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 1: because if it if it weren't happened to be awesome, 57 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 1: and it is. I think if there's a spectrum of 58 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 1: pipe dreams to not happening at all, it's probably skewing 59 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 1: more towards pipe dreams. But it's not it's not totally 60 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:48,799 Speaker 1: out of the question of happening. What it could happen. Well, 61 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:50,919 Speaker 1: Greedy Williams is my first round pick. I think there's 62 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 1: no way he falls. I'm not saying that I have seen. 63 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 1: I have seen somewhere he does fall, and hey, you 64 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 1: get some quarterbacks taken high. It pushes better players. It 65 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 1: really depends. Yes, if there's a run on a one 66 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 1: particular position and then people sort of start following that wave. 67 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 1: But if the Texans got the first three guys that 68 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:12,360 Speaker 1: he mocked mocked to the Texans, I think everybody would 69 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 1: be very happy. They're dancing. You think so because I 70 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:18,520 Speaker 1: thought that, you know, people really want to see offensive linement. 71 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 1: But he hasn't. He has one of the best one 72 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 1: coming to Texans in the second room in the second round. Yeah, 73 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:26,080 Speaker 1: because he dropped. I decree drops to the Texans in 74 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 1: the second round, and then I have them taking a 75 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 1: tackle late in the All right, let's just I was 76 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 1: gonna get into it a little bit, but since we're 77 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 1: already in it, let's get into it. Yeah, we talked 78 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 1: about it a bit on Friday, but you know, I've 79 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 1: gotten a lot of reaction to it. Guys on six ten, 80 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 1: guys not on six ten, Guys telling me I'm crazy, 81 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 1: Guys telling me from Oklahoma in the town. Yeah, because look, 82 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 1: there's some question. Is he a tackle? Is he a guard? 83 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 1: He's gonna make somebody happy, but he could drop. It's 84 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 1: not out of the realm of possibility. Guys drop all 85 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 1: the time. I think people be happy he was a 86 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 1: first rounder here, Yeah, I think they would so to 87 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 1: be again him in the second. The Hey, remember when 88 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 1: I had Tom Savage in the seventh and he ends 89 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 1: up as a fourth round draft choice, And I don't 90 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 1: know if I don't know how much longer he would 91 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 1: have lasted had the Texans not taken him in twenty fourteen. 92 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 1: But you know, I always bring up Savage because that's 93 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 1: the one player I got right now, the only player 94 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 1: that you've gotten right, because you really should go back 95 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:23,040 Speaker 1: and check all your mos. I know I've got another 96 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 1: one right in recent years. But here's what I do 97 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 1: get right. Very often the position groups that they pick 98 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:30,480 Speaker 1: roughly in the in the round that they pick him, yeah, roughly, 99 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 1: I have two corners and a tackle going in the 100 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 1: first three picks. Your third round pick is interesting. Who's 101 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 1: that You've got a wide receiver? Yeah, Andy Isabella is 102 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 1: kind of an upset pick, Johnny said, Hunter Rentfrow, why 103 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 1: don't you just take him from Clemson? Who's a slot 104 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 1: type guy? Fast? Former walk on showed up at one 105 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty pounds. Why don't you take him now? 106 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 1: I might take him in my next vandermock, which I'm 107 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 1: really thinking it's going to be Clemson South Carolina. There's 108 00:04:58,120 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 1: a couple of guys from some of the smaller st 109 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 1: wouls in the Palmetto State that are gonna get drafted. 110 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 1: I might just make it all you state. You have 111 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 1: a seventh rounder from Citadel, I could possibly do that. Yeah, 112 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:11,480 Speaker 1: the Citadel College to Charleston. You know, he's Southern mentally, 113 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 1: all the stereotypes, you know. I like that. You've got 114 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 1: a running back from Iowa State giving Iowa State some love. Yeah, 115 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 1: because he's good. Yeah, Yeah, that guy's gonna be a player. 116 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:21,360 Speaker 1: I don't know if he's gonna drop to the fifth round, 117 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 1: but he easily could. Landry Locker told me, as as 118 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:27,839 Speaker 1: he put it, well, because I did know this, he said, 119 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 1: there are backs for days you know, and and it's 120 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 1: like a variety of them and they're just well, all 121 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 1: these different skill sets and yeah, it's game smaller than 122 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 1: James Connor, but has been compared to him all right. 123 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 1: Round six, Wyatt Ray defensive end, Boston College. You always 124 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 1: pick somebody from Boston. I feel like that's just a look, 125 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:49,839 Speaker 1: that's that's a sentimental Well, you have to have a 126 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:52,359 Speaker 1: formula to the way you draft Deepeat and you know, 127 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 1: since it's since it's an exact sise, Yeah, you go 128 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 1: with with your your favorite cities. You go with names 129 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:00,840 Speaker 1: that you like because you're a play by play guy, 130 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 1: not you, but I am. So that's how I'm going 131 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 1: to do it. So you have to have your draft 132 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:07,480 Speaker 1: philosophy here and that's what comes into play. I like 133 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:09,799 Speaker 1: that you go by the names You've got Trey Pipkins 134 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 1: because you want Pikins. You want to be able to 135 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 1: say easy pickins for Pipkins, which I'm not sure for 136 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:16,040 Speaker 1: an old line minute, but I make that point if 137 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:17,839 Speaker 1: I wish he was a skilled guy, because I would 138 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 1: have drafted him in a heartbeat, maybe in round three, 139 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:22,720 Speaker 1: pushed him down to pushed him down. But he's an 140 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 1: old lineman named Pipkins. That's a waste of a good name. 141 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 1: How about when you compare these two? Drew does this 142 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 1: a mock survey or he sees what everyone across the 143 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 1: league every week? Right, they put together, he puts together 144 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 1: what everyone's picking. Are any of Mark's picks among that list? Yeah, 145 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:42,839 Speaker 1: Greedy on the cod No, nobody's had Greedy Williams to 146 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 1: the Texans. But Cody Ford has been there a couple 147 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:47,839 Speaker 1: of weeks ago. He was he was picked in like 148 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 1: four mock drafts and the Texans in the first round 149 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:54,039 Speaker 1: as a tackle. Because Johnny thinks he could be a guard. 150 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 1: They just say they're taking him and yeah, yeah, they 151 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 1: already did that with Rankin. You know, they took a 152 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:02,800 Speaker 1: tackle who could be a guard and probably will be 153 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 1: a guard. So we're gonna see that. But I think 154 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:08,040 Speaker 1: that Cody Ford is so good that he can play 155 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 1: either position. Maybe that's just my assessment. If he's and 156 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 1: if he's good enough to play guard, that means he's 157 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 1: he's raising the level of play there. Yeah right, you know, 158 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 1: so let's just let's just get better on the old line. 159 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 1: I think that's gonna be the philosophy any upsets in 160 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 1: the mock draft. No, no, there's nothing too wild the movie. 161 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 1: It all tackles. It's mainly tackle. Andre Dillard from Washington 162 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 1: State over the last two weeks has been the guy 163 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 1: that's most mocked. It's probably gonna change, you know, a 164 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 1: couple more times, just because when you're in the twenties, 165 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 1: there's so many variables. At that point in the draft, 166 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 1: it's tougher to predict. So yeah, tackle overwhelming favorite national landscape. 167 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 1: But the Texans taking a corner is not out of 168 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 1: the possible. I think, bottom line with those first three picks, 169 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 1: if they use them the way, if they use him 170 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 1: in those those spots, they don't trade them. I think 171 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 1: you're gonna see what what Mark does. Either two corners 172 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 1: in a tackle taken, or two tackles in a corner taken, 173 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 1: or two linemen in a corner. I'll ask you, guys, 174 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 1: this tackle or anybody else in the first round. So 175 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 1: you get it's a betting proposition for fictional purposes and 176 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 1: entertainment purposes. You get to pick will they take a 177 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 1: tackle or any other position, and we'll put that in 178 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 1: a group. So tackle or the field, which you're gonna tall? Oh, 179 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 1: that's a good way to put it. I would take tackle. 180 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 1: I'll take the field. I can kind of see the 181 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 1: field because there's so many good tackles. Yeah, I think 182 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 1: you can probably get a pretty good one in the 183 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 1: But if they've got their eye on somebody and that's 184 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:35,440 Speaker 1: the guy they like, yeah, yeah, that's why I think 185 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 1: that they probably have a good sense of who they want. 186 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 1: There's also you could take somebody, then take those two 187 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 1: second rounders and move up earlier in the second round 188 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:45,960 Speaker 1: and say, you know what, we have two second rounders. 189 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 1: Let's move up in the top half of the second 190 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 1: round someplace, and boom, go with a tackle there. You're 191 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 1: a Texans fan, well, you want to see on draft 192 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 1: the first round. You want to see as many quarterbacks 193 00:08:56,440 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 1: taken super super high, and as many teams to defensive 194 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:02,559 Speaker 1: lineman because there's a lot of good defensive lineman of 195 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 1: this draft, and you're not gonna take one high. You 196 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 1: want to keep every every time that position gets taken 197 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 1: super high. Cheer because it's pushing somebody down. Yeah that 198 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:13,720 Speaker 1: the Texans really really need a corner and or tackle. 199 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:16,080 Speaker 1: I mean, you gotta you gotta get better there at 200 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:18,560 Speaker 1: those spots and you're gunno, but that's that's where you're 201 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 1: gonna find some help there. Mark, do you ever remember 202 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:23,960 Speaker 1: in recent history and Drew too, people getting so excited 203 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 1: about drafting and offensive tackle in the first round that's 204 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 1: usually not a super sexy pick. I feel like, I 205 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:32,720 Speaker 1: feel like this year people are the most excited I've 206 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:35,319 Speaker 1: ever seen them about offensive I think in Oa when 207 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 1: Dwayne Brown was drafted, there was an expectation that, like, 208 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:41,080 Speaker 1: they gotta get this tackle things straight now because they 209 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:43,200 Speaker 1: were coming off seven when they went five hundred for 210 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 1: the first time and forever, it was a big concern 211 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:47,559 Speaker 1: on this team. They never had the guide Drew. You've 212 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:50,320 Speaker 1: talked about how the history of the franchise changed once 213 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 1: they drafted a left tackle, and that draft was weird 214 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 1: because they had the eighteenth pick, as I recall, then 215 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 1: they traded it to Baltimore so they could select Joe Flacco, 216 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 1: and the Texans were in year two of the shot era, 217 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:02,080 Speaker 1: so they were like, we don't need a quarterback, so 218 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 1: they dropped down later in the first round and they 219 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:07,200 Speaker 1: took Dwayne Brown, which at the time, well, Johnny admits 220 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 1: that he wasn't that high on him at the time. 221 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 1: And there were a billion I think it was the 222 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:14,440 Speaker 1: six or seventh tackle taken in the first round, and 223 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:17,679 Speaker 1: he turned out to be very good, obviously, so there 224 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 1: was there was some excitement about that. It's funny because 225 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 1: if they take a tackle in the first round, the 226 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:25,719 Speaker 1: draft party's going to erupt, like, yes, tackle, even though 227 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 1: it's not a pass catcher skill posit. But I feel 228 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 1: like even in that draft there were other positions of needs. 229 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 1: So was it I'm trying to remember from a lot 230 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:36,559 Speaker 1: of needs. There were a lot of needs, so was it. 231 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:39,440 Speaker 1: It wasn't so concentrate on we must get They were excited. 232 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:41,840 Speaker 1: There were a couple of different but people knew it 233 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 1: was a need. People knew they needed a tackle. And 234 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:46,440 Speaker 1: when they moved out of eighteen, there was a little 235 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 1: bit of apprehension at the draft party because there you 236 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 1: were and you're seeing tackle and tackle and tackle go 237 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 1: off the board. You think, well, are they going to 238 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:53,960 Speaker 1: take one or not? And you're right, it wasn't the 239 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 1: only option. In the fans eyes. Draft parties are unique 240 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 1: because you feel like they'll cheer or anything, yet they'll 241 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:05,079 Speaker 1: boo anything. Also because they boo JJ watt some boot. 242 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 1: There were some let's not make it like he was 243 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 1: an overwhelming No, it wasn't a chor. It was like 244 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 1: five or six dudes that you heard, but it wasn't 245 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:16,319 Speaker 1: like he was just killed. Well, that was a sexy 246 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:19,000 Speaker 1: draft early. You know, he had Alden Smith, who was 247 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:24,679 Speaker 1: ut yeah, you know, and you look at Patrick Peterson 248 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 1: and you know there were some names that were coming 249 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 1: off the board. You're like, uh and J. J. Watt. Honestly, 250 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:31,840 Speaker 1: and he'll admit this, he wasn't one of the sexier 251 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 1: names heading into that draft. But I think everyone thought, well, 252 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:37,680 Speaker 1: they got a really good player. Like no one knew 253 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 1: he's gonna be as great as he was, but a 254 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 1: really good player. It's just is that what they need? 255 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:43,720 Speaker 1: You know, with Wade Phillips coming in, is that what 256 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:45,600 Speaker 1: they need? A three four defensive end? Oh? Yes, they 257 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 1: needed him. Then the news came out, well, Mario Williams 258 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 1: is going to play outside linebacker, so that I think 259 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 1: initially that's why some people were like huh. And then 260 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 1: then there was a kind of a corresponding move, Hey, 261 00:11:56,559 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 1: he's gonna play outside, right, this guy's probably gonna start 262 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:02,560 Speaker 1: opposite Antonio Smith. That defends an end. And then he 263 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:04,720 Speaker 1: gets up and does the press conference with Wade Phillips 264 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 1: because back then the first round pick would go up 265 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 1: with the coordinator on this and so Wade talked, Wade like, 266 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 1: grab JJ's rest big arms on the draft. Yeah, he's 267 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 1: talking about all the shuttle because JJ destroyed all those, 268 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 1: all those combined, yea, all the three cones. Yeah, the strength, 269 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 1: he destroyed all that. I mean, and he works hard. 270 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 1: Nobody works harder than JJ. But he is a supreme 271 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:37,320 Speaker 1: athlete and a supremely talented guy as well. It's a combination. Yeah, 272 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 1: It's not like the work ethic is all he's got. 273 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:41,600 Speaker 1: He's just the high motor work ethic guy that doesn't 274 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 1: have any athletic skill. Now he's a jungle cat, I 275 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:47,400 Speaker 1: mean when it comes to athletic obviously very quick. And 276 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 1: that draft, as we remember, was the lockout draft. So 277 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:52,559 Speaker 1: like what, welcome to the Texans. Now get out of 278 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 1: the building. Now we won't see you. But you know what, 279 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:57,080 Speaker 1: I don't think they'll there will ever be a reaction 280 00:12:57,120 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 1: like the one we had in seventeen when the Texans 281 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 1: moved up so far to take to Shaun Watson. We 282 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 1: were all shocks. So as far as and I think 283 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 1: that's why the tackle. Everyone's so excited about the tackle, 284 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:08,360 Speaker 1: because that love for Deshaun is carrying over and people 285 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 1: want to see him protect. Hey, I would not completely 286 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:13,200 Speaker 1: rule out a move up again, not like you know, 287 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:16,200 Speaker 1: ten twelve picks, but something they're at twenty three, right 288 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:19,080 Speaker 1: if they needed to move up to sixteen or something 289 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:21,840 Speaker 1: to get a tackle or somebody they really wanted and 290 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:24,840 Speaker 1: they part ways with a second round pick, and you know, 291 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:26,600 Speaker 1: maybe both second round picks they'll have to do. I 292 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:28,440 Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know what would take to move 293 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:31,440 Speaker 1: up five to ten spots, but I wouldn't rule that 294 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:34,840 Speaker 1: out if they see a player that they absolutely love. Yeah, 295 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 1: we still don't have I don't I don't know we 296 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 1: have a real beat on how willing Brian Gaine is 297 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:42,840 Speaker 1: to trade up, trade down. I think he can be. 298 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 1: I think he is going to be willing, but we 299 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 1: just don't know. We don't have a track record with 300 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:47,839 Speaker 1: him yet, all right. We also don't know how willing 301 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:51,680 Speaker 1: is he to place the franchise tag on any particular player. 302 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 1: Tagging day begins today. We're more into that, and then 303 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 1: also we'll do a quick around the league. A former 304 00:13:56,760 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 1: coach here in Houston, ends up in the AFC South. 305 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 1: I want to get marks thoughts on that. That's all 306 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:03,560 Speaker 1: coming up Texans All Access. Also, John Harris joins us 307 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:07,600 Speaker 1: on later on in the show, Don't go Anywhere, Welcome 308 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 1: back to Texans All Access. A lot of things happening 309 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 1: here in the off season, quietly under the radar. One 310 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 1: of the things not under the radar. JJ Watt first 311 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 1: NFL player ever to Grand Marshall the Daytona five hundred 312 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 1: over the weekend. I liked his intro. I mean, I 313 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 1: grew up in an with a lot of yeah INNY 314 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 1: five hundred. I mean, they always have the Grand Marshal, 315 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:28,000 Speaker 1: and I expected it to be worded the same way. 316 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:30,240 Speaker 1: He changed it up. He did it in a JJ 317 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:34,000 Speaker 1: sort of Nascar voice, which I or, you know, a 318 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 1: race car voice, I guess, but I think he had 319 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 1: a lot of fun doing. One of my best friends 320 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 1: from college, who he's a good strong Texans fan, he 321 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 1: was at the race. He's a big NASCAR fan too, 322 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 1: and he was there and he sent me I couldn't 323 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 1: see JJ, but he recorded it and there's video this 324 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:52,680 Speaker 1: far away and it sound JJ sounded like what he 325 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 1: looks like when he comes out of the tunnel, yes, 326 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 1: you know, and it's I was like, all right, that'll 327 00:14:57,280 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 1: sounded good. Well it's you know, you're dealing with what 328 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 1: over one hundred tho people. I don't know what the 329 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 1: crowd is. It's huge. Did the race end by the way, 330 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 1: I mean it's still yeah. The footage of the moving 331 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:12,120 Speaker 1: car crash if you will, with all the flames and 332 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 1: sparks and everything, it's so frightening. It was such a 333 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:18,520 Speaker 1: tremendous image of that, and I know they had a 334 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 1: huge delay in everything. Anyway, Good for JJOS he's making 335 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 1: the rounds us offseason. I'm sure this won't be the 336 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 1: last event we see him hosting him any more to 337 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 1: come for him. Also in Florida Jacksonville, in particular Mark 338 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:33,960 Speaker 1: dom Capers he's going to return to jackson as a 339 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 1: senior defensive assistant. I'm not sure if you know this. 340 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 1: Obviously you know him very well head coach here in 341 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:40,560 Speaker 1: Houston from two thousand and two to two thousand and five. 342 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 1: Most everyone knows him as the defensive coordinator in Green 343 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:47,120 Speaker 1: Bay from two thousand and nine to seventeen, and so 344 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 1: now he goes back. He comes back to the AFC South. 345 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 1: I hate that he's in Jacksonville. Do you think he 346 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 1: makes a big dent as a defensive assistant. Do you 347 00:15:55,680 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 1: think it changes the scheme of what their defense looks like? 348 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 1: He'll help. I think Dom is very smart, very organized. 349 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:05,760 Speaker 1: He'll have good ideas. Dom was there when they went 350 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 1: fourteen and two in nineteen ninety nine and lost to 351 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 1: the Tennessee Titans in the AFC Championship game. He was 352 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 1: their defensive coordinator. They're under Tom Coughlin, so they know 353 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 1: each other well. In fact, when Coughlin got fired and 354 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 1: the Texans were down there playing them, I remember Coughlin 355 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 1: came to the hotel, the team hotel to meet with 356 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 1: Dom Caper's because he was still living down there or 357 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 1: staying down there or whatever. So they have a really 358 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 1: good relationship. And by the way, Coughlin is one of 359 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 1: the nicest guys out there. I mean, I don't think 360 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:38,000 Speaker 1: you would see that based on press conferences and sideline 361 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 1: demeanor and everything. He was. My wife is at the 362 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 1: owners meetings and he was there and her family they're 363 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 1: from New York, so they're huge Giants fans from back 364 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 1: in the day. And she snapped a picture with him, 365 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 1: and you know, it's it's stuff that's okay to do 366 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 1: from time to time, and she sent it to her dad. 367 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 1: He Tom Coughlin is a sweet guy. He really is. 368 00:16:57,200 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 1: But again, you wouldn't know it based on the large 369 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 1: exterior in coaching. He did lighten up a bit with 370 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 1: the Giants. Of course, the fact that he's in Jacksonville. Look, 371 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:08,200 Speaker 1: this is a huge year for the entire organization because 372 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:10,040 Speaker 1: it looked like it was not only headed in the 373 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:12,679 Speaker 1: right direction, it looked like it was headed toward a championship. 374 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:15,360 Speaker 1: But then they had the huge hiccup year. So we'll 375 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:17,640 Speaker 1: see how they rebound with a new quarterback and everybody's 376 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:19,360 Speaker 1: eager to see who that's gonna be. And they've they've 377 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:22,960 Speaker 1: got pieces there on defense, Yeah they do. And he's 378 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:26,280 Speaker 1: forgotten more defense than many will ever know. So yeah, 379 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:27,800 Speaker 1: this is I think this is a good, good move 380 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 1: for Jacksonville. I feel like head coaches are getting younger 381 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:33,040 Speaker 1: and defensive coordinators are getting older. It's just a new 382 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:34,880 Speaker 1: trend in the NFL. You know, it's a great point 383 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:37,399 Speaker 1: because you look at Dick Lebau and Wade Phillips and 384 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 1: Romeo Cornell and guys like that. And if you have 385 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:43,399 Speaker 1: younger offensive coaches, what do you want? Get somebody to 386 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:45,439 Speaker 1: coach the defense so I don't have to think about it, 387 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:49,000 Speaker 1: you know, Yeah, who are the young hotshots on defense? 388 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:53,440 Speaker 1: There are some, but the experience does mean so much. Plus, 389 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:56,399 Speaker 1: we all saw Don Caper's here at the celebration of 390 00:17:56,400 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 1: life for Bob McNair back in November. We did. He's 391 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 1: no decrepit old man. This guy is Kylie Wong said afterwards. 392 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:08,760 Speaker 1: This guy's hammering the lat pulldown machine in the gym. Yeah. 393 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:11,359 Speaker 1: I saw that. I'd never seen Dom Capers up close 394 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:13,639 Speaker 1: like that. Yeah, in person. Oh, because you weren't here 395 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:15,800 Speaker 1: when I wasn't here. His I mean he's a rock 396 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:20,800 Speaker 1: on top of his shoulders. I was like, he's like, mister, yeah, Okay, 397 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 1: I did not see I didn't see him, but maybe 398 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:24,439 Speaker 1: maybe I saw him and did not realize that that 399 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:27,360 Speaker 1: was him. It was jarring. I mean it was jarring pulldowns. 400 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:29,800 Speaker 1: I mean that's Kylie. Does he do Farmers carries because 401 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:31,240 Speaker 1: I know you're a big fan of Probably does he? 402 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 1: Probably he does more lat pulldowns, and that's but he 403 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:37,399 Speaker 1: has more lat pulldowns and more former carries than I do. 404 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:39,480 Speaker 1: So yes, I'd love to be a fly on the 405 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:43,440 Speaker 1: wall with Dick Lebau in Pittsburgh in the nineties when 406 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:47,360 Speaker 1: they bring computers in and they they the Steelers didn't 407 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:49,959 Speaker 1: have a computer. Dom said he brought the first computer 408 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 1: to the Steelers organization and I don't know what Commodore 409 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:55,919 Speaker 1: sixty four or something like, hey guys, let's input some 410 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:58,840 Speaker 1: things and see what happens. But the Steelers were doing 411 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:02,280 Speaker 1: those exotic zone blitz is. I mean, that's the popularization 412 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 1: of that type of defense with Lebo and Capers. He 413 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:07,320 Speaker 1: was also in New England for about a year ago, 414 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:09,359 Speaker 1: the same time that Bill O'Brien was there. He was 415 00:19:09,359 --> 00:19:12,399 Speaker 1: there secondary coach. Did he also bring that computerization in 416 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:14,840 Speaker 1: New England? And might well no, no, no, they were there. 417 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:19,119 Speaker 1: But with O'Brien talked about, you know, Capers his organizational 418 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 1: abilities using all the Excel spreadsheet he's superorgans. Yeah, and 419 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:26,120 Speaker 1: I think O'Brien was was impressed with Dom Capers. Who 420 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:28,600 Speaker 1: wouldn't be. And it's funny that you have that overlap 421 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:30,960 Speaker 1: of those two guys in New England. Capers has worked 422 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:32,760 Speaker 1: for a lot of teams now now he left here, 423 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 1: went to the Miami Dolphins, and he coached a defense 424 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 1: that was pretty good with Jason Taylor. That was back 425 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 1: in the day. Zach Thomas is still there. Jason Taylor 426 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:43,119 Speaker 1: went Defensive Player of the Year with Dom Capers coaching 427 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:46,400 Speaker 1: that Dolphin defense. He could coach now. So we'll see 428 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:48,479 Speaker 1: what kind of impact he has on the Jaguars, who 429 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:50,480 Speaker 1: are already a good defense. I mean, even with the 430 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 1: horrendous year, there were top five all year. You're looking 431 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 1: at the standings in defensive statistics and they're right, yes, 432 00:19:56,800 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 1: this is yeah, good move for that organization. Yeah, all right, 433 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:02,199 Speaker 1: you mentioned the Steelers. Antonio Brown and the Steelers have 434 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:04,720 Speaker 1: agreed that they will work on a potential trade for 435 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:07,280 Speaker 1: their star wide receivers, so the trades are not official 436 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:10,359 Speaker 1: until March thirteen. We've seen the tweets that Antonio Brown. 437 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:12,760 Speaker 1: I think we even talked about it this time last week. 438 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:14,800 Speaker 1: He was tweeting about playing for a new team and 439 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:16,920 Speaker 1: he said his goodbyes to Pittsburgh and we thought that's funny. 440 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:20,960 Speaker 1: Still on the roster and under contract, but he does 441 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:23,119 Speaker 1: not have permission to speak to other teams. But the 442 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:26,800 Speaker 1: between him or arn't Rooney the second they met today 443 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:29,960 Speaker 1: and they've agreed that he's going to be traded. The 444 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:34,080 Speaker 1: keyword there is work, work a deal. That doesn't mean 445 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:35,879 Speaker 1: the deal is going to happen, because how could you 446 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:38,439 Speaker 1: bring a guy like that back because it costs just 447 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:41,119 Speaker 1: one million dollars more to bring him back than it 448 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 1: does to let him go. Yeah, but you're gonna get 449 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 1: picks at least, but then you don't y him. That's 450 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:50,199 Speaker 1: the thing. They have to shop, and they have to 451 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:52,080 Speaker 1: find out what the price is going to be because 452 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:54,760 Speaker 1: if they get I don't give me a number a two, 453 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:57,040 Speaker 1: it might be worth it. You know, Cleveland bought a 454 00:20:57,040 --> 00:20:59,119 Speaker 1: two for sixteen million. I know this would be more. 455 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:01,640 Speaker 1: But then you get him out of the building and 456 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:04,639 Speaker 1: it hasn't been a happy time. So maybe you just 457 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:06,600 Speaker 1: make the best of the situation and get all you 458 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:09,680 Speaker 1: can draft choice wise. Yeah, but if you if there's 459 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 1: enough teams out there willing to play the game of 460 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 1: poker to just like, wait, oh gosh, what do you 461 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:17,800 Speaker 1: do at that point? Yeah, if you're the Steelers, I mean, 462 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:20,199 Speaker 1: and I'm because they know they're they're kind of in 463 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:22,280 Speaker 1: a corner now, Like if they do bring him back, 464 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 1: he could just not show up. He won't get paid, obviously, 465 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:27,960 Speaker 1: but that's how much. But that that just happened last 466 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:29,679 Speaker 1: year with Levey on Bell. So they've got players that 467 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 1: have done it and then end up exactly where they 468 00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:33,359 Speaker 1: want to be. I mean, I've said this before, but 469 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:36,280 Speaker 1: I just find it's so interesting that you have two 470 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:39,160 Speaker 1: of these elite players at their positions and they can't 471 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:42,399 Speaker 1: be happy in Pittsburgh. Can't can't be happy in Pittsburgh 472 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:45,720 Speaker 1: like it's Cleveland, like it's Siberia. Pittsburg, you got one 473 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:47,920 Speaker 1: of the elite quarterbacks in the league. No, can't find 474 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:50,240 Speaker 1: happiness here. I know with Levy on Bell, it's a 475 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:53,480 Speaker 1: total contract situation. Brown's working on a nice contract. He 476 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:57,480 Speaker 1: is working within a nice contract. Bell. No. But the 477 00:21:57,560 --> 00:22:00,320 Speaker 1: thing about Bell that disturbed me anyway. And I don't 478 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:02,360 Speaker 1: walk at his shoes, so I can't answer for him. 479 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:04,160 Speaker 1: But I don't know how you throw away a whole 480 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 1: year and all that money. It's guaranteed deal. Even if 481 00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:10,239 Speaker 1: that's all you ever got, if you injured yourself and 482 00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:13,159 Speaker 1: we're done, it's still a ton of money. And you 483 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:14,920 Speaker 1: lost a year of your life, a year of your 484 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:17,439 Speaker 1: career because it's not a very long or did he 485 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:19,360 Speaker 1: Maybe he thinks he added a year to his car 486 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:22,119 Speaker 1: because he preserved his body. I think not. I think 487 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:24,720 Speaker 1: very few running bass can play at an elite level 488 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:27,600 Speaker 1: through years seven, eight, nine, ten. You know some do it, 489 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:30,879 Speaker 1: but it's such a minority. You know, it's not everybody's 490 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:33,880 Speaker 1: Frank Gore or Adrian Peterson or you know. These guys 491 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:36,199 Speaker 1: are few and far between, and I don't know if 492 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:38,320 Speaker 1: he's one of them, I'll be introducing what happens. I 493 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:41,680 Speaker 1: think Twitter just makes all of this offseason talk so 494 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:44,120 Speaker 1: much better. If I could just have a show where 495 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 1: I was a detective and tried to read between the lines, 496 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:48,360 Speaker 1: I would do that because all these free agents are 497 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:50,919 Speaker 1: talking and they're very cryptic. He's not, obviously not one 498 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:52,879 Speaker 1: of those guys. He's just putting it out there, but 499 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:54,359 Speaker 1: I think that there. I don't know if that hurts 500 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 1: them or helps their case. Well, Tyrn Matthew is one 501 00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:59,080 Speaker 1: of them who's He says a lot of things that 502 00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:01,199 Speaker 1: he's betting on himself. Often it's gonna pay off, and 503 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 1: I you know, you think, does that mean does that 504 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:04,720 Speaker 1: mean it's gonna pay off? Here? Does that mean it's 505 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:06,880 Speaker 1: gonna pay off elsewhere. What the morning show guys are 506 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:09,040 Speaker 1: trying to interpret the tweets, and you can do it 507 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:12,000 Speaker 1: either way. You know he's definitely coming back. Oh no, 508 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:14,199 Speaker 1: that means he's definitely got Like I can build a 509 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:17,440 Speaker 1: case in either direction. That's a good tweet. You can't 510 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:22,520 Speaker 1: get yourself in trouble either way. The people Parson because 511 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 1: he probably has nobody has. He's a very interactive, interesting explanation. 512 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:29,600 Speaker 1: If you were to ask him any fun to I think, 513 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:32,000 Speaker 1: should he come back? Should he get resigned here to 514 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:34,639 Speaker 1: a contract? That's definitely gonna be something he gets asked. 515 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:36,640 Speaker 1: And I would love to know, have him right here 516 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:38,320 Speaker 1: and ask we're gonna we're gonna bring him right back 517 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:40,359 Speaker 1: here and say, right, all these tweets, we had all 518 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:43,320 Speaker 1: these interpretations, what was going on? Can you tell what? 519 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:45,080 Speaker 1: Can you tell us? Yeah? All right? And he might 520 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:46,879 Speaker 1: be honest. I mean, j Joe was honest about his 521 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:48,880 Speaker 1: situation last year as a free agent, and he talked 522 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:51,119 Speaker 1: about Oakland as a possibility or whatever, even though I 523 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 1: don't believe, no, just kidding, it could have happened. All right, 524 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:56,720 Speaker 1: what is definitely gonna happen? John Harris is going to 525 00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 1: join us for the final segment of the show Don't 526 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:01,359 Speaker 1: go anywhere but Combine coming up in a week. John Harris, 527 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 1: I'm sure has a lot to say about it's all 528 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:09,359 Speaker 1: coming up on Texans All Access. Welcome back for the 529 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:11,679 Speaker 1: final segment of Texans All Access. Joining me now, my 530 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:14,240 Speaker 1: good friend John Harris. I like to save the best 531 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:17,359 Speaker 1: for last. John Harris, Oh, thank you. Welcome so nice, 532 00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:19,600 Speaker 1: welcome in. I know you're lying, but it's not. No, 533 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 1: it's absolutely true. Flattering. Well, especially this time of year, 534 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:24,480 Speaker 1: I feel like you're sort of the star of the show. 535 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:26,720 Speaker 1: This is you, This is your time to shine. You 536 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:29,760 Speaker 1: shine all year long. But everyone turns to John Harris 537 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:32,400 Speaker 1: and the Harris one hundred. I know, I do your 538 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:34,600 Speaker 1: hair is one hundred. It's done. It'll be up on 539 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:36,240 Speaker 1: the site probably the end of the week. Right, it 540 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:38,560 Speaker 1: is done. It's been done for a few days. But 541 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 1: the smart and intelligent people have to now take it 542 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:45,160 Speaker 1: and go take all my ramblings and put it into 543 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:47,960 Speaker 1: a format that you guys can filter and look at 544 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:51,720 Speaker 1: and love. And it's kind of a fluid document. So 545 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 1: it probably has already changed in my mind from when 546 00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:59,159 Speaker 1: I submitted it. Which was I think Monday. I submit it. No, 547 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:01,840 Speaker 1: not to not yesterday, but the money before last week 548 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:03,640 Speaker 1: because we talked about it a little bit. You had 549 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 1: just finished it up. Yeah, So which is a behemoth task. 550 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:09,560 Speaker 1: It is. Finally got it, got that done. And now 551 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:12,480 Speaker 1: I'm continuing on from the one hundred to the two 552 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 1: hundred and beyond and looking at players and trying to 553 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:18,119 Speaker 1: focus that a little bit more on positions the Texans 554 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:20,359 Speaker 1: might look at. I know there are probably some that 555 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:23,480 Speaker 1: they're probably not going to be as invested in. Maybe 556 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:26,240 Speaker 1: the linebacker. Inside linebacker may not be one that they're 557 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 1: going to be invested in as much because of the 558 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:32,159 Speaker 1: fact that they've got Bernardrick McKinney's at hunting amalon Cole. 559 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:34,480 Speaker 1: That might be a position. So I might not focus 560 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:36,879 Speaker 1: on an area like that, and which is good because 561 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:39,360 Speaker 1: it really is not a deep draft in that respect, 562 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:43,600 Speaker 1: but tackles corners, anybody in the secondary. I'll probably spend 563 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:46,159 Speaker 1: a little bit more time on those players and hopefully 564 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:47,800 Speaker 1: could find a diamond in the rough. As have the 565 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:50,480 Speaker 1: last few years. I had the opportunity because I do 566 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:53,919 Speaker 1: Southland Conference games to see some of the players like 567 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,399 Speaker 1: treymont Smith, who's a kick returner for Kansas City and 568 00:25:56,920 --> 00:26:01,360 Speaker 1: was a rookie corner for them. Who got really I mean, 569 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:04,320 Speaker 1: he had an amazing year for the Kinsey Chiefs. I 570 00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:07,880 Speaker 1: saw him and was like, you know, maybe fifth sixth round, 571 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:09,439 Speaker 1: maybe the Texans could take a look at him, but 572 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:12,160 Speaker 1: fortunately the Chiefs snapped him up before that. So those 573 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:14,280 Speaker 1: are the kind of players and he went the Central Arkansas. 574 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:16,159 Speaker 1: So those are the kind of players that I try 575 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:18,880 Speaker 1: and find from here on out. Because look, we all 576 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:21,320 Speaker 1: know the we all know the Power five players or 577 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:24,159 Speaker 1: the players that came from the next you know, the 578 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:26,600 Speaker 1: Group of five or whatever it is, and the independent schools. 579 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:28,399 Speaker 1: But now it's like getting into the FCS schools, like 580 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:30,640 Speaker 1: getting into some of those schools that maybe you don't 581 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:33,679 Speaker 1: know as much about or people haven't been following and 582 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:35,240 Speaker 1: trying to find some of the diamonds in the rough. 583 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:36,960 Speaker 1: And luckily for me, like I said, I could do 584 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 1: some of the South and Conference games. So I see 585 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:40,879 Speaker 1: some of those guys that I get a chance to watch, 586 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:42,800 Speaker 1: and a few them kind of pop off the screen 587 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:44,959 Speaker 1: and kind of been sitting on him like, all right, 588 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:46,600 Speaker 1: these are my gems. I could talk about them and 589 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:48,240 Speaker 1: why I had a chance to see them. Yeah, under 590 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:50,640 Speaker 1: the radar guys, sleeper guys. I mean, we've got we've 591 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:52,440 Speaker 1: got guys that come from schools that you think, how 592 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:54,720 Speaker 1: did this guy not get Dylan Cole. I know we've 593 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:56,679 Speaker 1: talked about him a ton. Yeah, but the fact that 594 00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 1: you know where he went to school sort of kept domine. 595 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:02,639 Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's crazy to me. There's I mean, 596 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:04,400 Speaker 1: I know the regional combine, but you know, a guy 597 00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:06,560 Speaker 1: like that could easily slip under the radar. I do 598 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:08,880 Speaker 1: like those picks a lot because I think that's where 599 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:10,960 Speaker 1: you can really get a bargain, high risk cut. It's 600 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,560 Speaker 1: low risk, high reward actually, because you don't really spend 601 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:15,240 Speaker 1: a high draft pick on him. But if it works out, 602 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:17,560 Speaker 1: you get a guy like Cole, who who's done some 603 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 1: nice things on special teams. He really stepped in, you know, 604 00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:23,760 Speaker 1: and then Brian Cushing left and then he solidified his 605 00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:26,240 Speaker 1: spot on this roster. I know you've seen the vander 606 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:29,840 Speaker 1: Mock and you've talked about it with Mark. You and 607 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 1: I have not talked about it. I want to get 608 00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:35,280 Speaker 1: your thoughts on some of the position groups, and with 609 00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:38,720 Speaker 1: the combine coming up, there's a lot of drills that 610 00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:40,760 Speaker 1: we go through, and I always find it very interesting 611 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:43,160 Speaker 1: what you're looking at with each drill because you look 612 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:45,160 Speaker 1: at it differently depending on the position group. But let's 613 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 1: start with the vandermok Okay. We Mark posed this question 614 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 1: earlier on in the show. If you could take in 615 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:55,480 Speaker 1: the first round that the Texans would draft an offensive 616 00:27:55,520 --> 00:28:00,720 Speaker 1: tackle or any other position, so basically offensive line, offensive tackle, 617 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:04,919 Speaker 1: or the field, what would you pick. I think it's 618 00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:06,720 Speaker 1: gonna end up being tackle because I think there's a 619 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:10,040 Speaker 1: lot of depth at the tackle position. I think after 620 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:13,080 Speaker 1: we start the new league year, in free agency kicks in, 621 00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:16,600 Speaker 1: the Texas have already resigned Sean Charle Henderson, so that's 622 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:19,440 Speaker 1: one tackle now. I don't know what's gonna happen with 623 00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:21,520 Speaker 1: Kenda Lamb. He's a free agent. I don't know if 624 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:23,320 Speaker 1: the Texans bring him back. But if the Texas find 625 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:25,440 Speaker 1: a way to sign Kendall Lamb back, and you signed 626 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 1: Sean Charle Henderson and maybe you add another high priced 627 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:32,960 Speaker 1: free agent at tackle, then I think the answer to 628 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:35,720 Speaker 1: that question becomes a little different. I still think you're 629 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:37,560 Speaker 1: going to draft a tackle. I still think you have 630 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:40,840 Speaker 1: to address that position and just address the offensive line 631 00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:43,560 Speaker 1: in general. But you've got to you've got to address 632 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:48,360 Speaker 1: that position, I think. So, so you would take you 633 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:50,600 Speaker 1: would take offensive I would take a tackle because you've 634 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:52,960 Speaker 1: got Look, that's exactly what I said. They all took, 635 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:55,360 Speaker 1: they all took the field, and I said, I said 636 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:58,320 Speaker 1: offensive tackle. Because while you have invested, you've got like 637 00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:01,320 Speaker 1: a lot of picks from a lot of different methods, 638 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:04,400 Speaker 1: whether it's free agency or a low round draft pick 639 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:07,200 Speaker 1: or an undrafted You've never it's been a while since 640 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:10,760 Speaker 1: you've spent a first round pick on an offensive tackle, 641 00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:13,680 Speaker 1: on offensive lineman, and an offensive lineman period. Yeah. I 642 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:15,440 Speaker 1: mean the last offensive lineman you put a number one 643 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 1: pick in was was Dwayne and it did really well 644 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:22,400 Speaker 1: for you. So yeah, because night was Cushing, ten was Kareem, 645 00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:26,760 Speaker 1: eleven was Watt, twelve was Whitney. Thirteen was hop fourteen 646 00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:32,200 Speaker 1: was Clowney, fifteen was Kevin, sixteen was Will seventeen was 647 00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:35,240 Speaker 1: DeShawn That's right. So you have not invested a first rounder. 648 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:38,400 Speaker 1: Now you look at the Patriots offensive line, and of course, 649 00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:40,200 Speaker 1: well what did the champions have? What did they have? 650 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:43,800 Speaker 1: They had a second rounder Joe Doney, They had an 651 00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:46,960 Speaker 1: undrafted guy in David Andrews. Trent Brown was at trade 652 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:48,960 Speaker 1: and he was a later round guy with the forty 653 00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:50,680 Speaker 1: nine ers, in large part because I don't think people 654 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:53,280 Speaker 1: thought Trent Brown, ironically now one of the big key 655 00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:55,920 Speaker 1: free agents that maybe the Texans will look at. They 656 00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:59,000 Speaker 1: didn't think Trent Brown liked football. I'll never forget seeing 657 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:01,360 Speaker 1: him at the Senior Bowl. He went to the University 658 00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:03,640 Speaker 1: of Florida, and he's just you can't miss him. I mean, 659 00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:07,160 Speaker 1: he's he would fill the doorframe. But he had this 660 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:10,280 Speaker 1: white like this blank white helmet on, Like what's going on? 661 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:12,360 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I forgot all his equipment or they didn't 662 00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:14,120 Speaker 1: send his equipment from Florida, Like he didn't tell his 663 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:17,320 Speaker 1: equipment department that they need to send his equipment. I'm like, 664 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:18,800 Speaker 1: oh my god, this guy's never gonna make it. And 665 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:21,520 Speaker 1: he's ended up being a really good tackle. So they 666 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:23,560 Speaker 1: don't have a first round round that on the Patriot 667 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:25,920 Speaker 1: they got two undrafted guys, they got a second rounder, 668 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:28,000 Speaker 1: so it's just a matter of But they also they 669 00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:30,000 Speaker 1: also have not had a lot of it. They went 670 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:32,360 Speaker 1: a few years without first round picks, right they did. 671 00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:36,880 Speaker 1: They've traded in the first round, they got suspender or fine, right, 672 00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:39,479 Speaker 1: So yeah, they haven't had a first rounder to put in. 673 00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:43,440 Speaker 1: But I think for the Texans putting in I don't think. 674 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:46,320 Speaker 1: I don't think just going out and getting a first 675 00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:48,040 Speaker 1: round off itsive linement is always a time. I think 676 00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:49,440 Speaker 1: it's gotta be the right fit, it's gotta be the 677 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:51,959 Speaker 1: right mix, and you don't have to have a first rounder, 678 00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:53,840 Speaker 1: just like the Patriots off show, you don't have to 679 00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:55,600 Speaker 1: have a first round or at quarterback, you know they 680 00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:58,120 Speaker 1: had a sixth rounder. But that's true. It doesn't work 681 00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 1: for everybody that it may have worked for the Patriots, 682 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,680 Speaker 1: it doesn't work necessarily for everybody. We also discussed the 683 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:04,520 Speaker 1: fact that if there's a big run on one position, 684 00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:07,200 Speaker 1: run right, and that in the position that could happen 685 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:11,440 Speaker 1: ends up being tackle because there are there are a 686 00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:13,360 Speaker 1: good number and that's why I do think it will 687 00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:15,480 Speaker 1: be tackled. But I do I still think there could 688 00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:17,240 Speaker 1: be a run on tackles. But I still think there 689 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:19,800 Speaker 1: could be one available at twenty three. And why I 690 00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:22,760 Speaker 1: say that is there's a lot of Jonah Williams from Alabama, 691 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:26,160 Speaker 1: um Dalt Riser from Kansas State, something tackle or guard, 692 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:29,640 Speaker 1: who knows. Mark and Vandermack put Cody forward to the 693 00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:31,840 Speaker 1: second round. He's a guard or at tackle. I was like, 694 00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:33,480 Speaker 1: would you put him? You'd put him more of a 695 00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:36,840 Speaker 1: guard than a tackle. I think he's probably best suited 696 00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:38,959 Speaker 1: for guard, but I think he could play tackle. Now. 697 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:41,680 Speaker 1: Now Mark also had him in the second round, right, 698 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:43,760 Speaker 1: that's not happening. That's not happening. Yeah, But if they 699 00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:45,720 Speaker 1: do take an offensive line in the first one, do 700 00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:47,560 Speaker 1: you think it would be a true tackle. I think 701 00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:49,680 Speaker 1: it would be a true tackle. But they like guys 702 00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:52,240 Speaker 1: with versatility, but for something, but for some reason, I 703 00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:55,000 Speaker 1: think they would take a true tackle. Yeah, I think 704 00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:57,480 Speaker 1: I think a true tackle would would make some sense. 705 00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:01,160 Speaker 1: But look, we always say player available. I think you 706 00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:04,560 Speaker 1: end up taking the best linement available at that particular moment, 707 00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:06,520 Speaker 1: and then you get them here and you realize you 708 00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:09,320 Speaker 1: can that guy played tack or not. And funny story, 709 00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:11,280 Speaker 1: we were at the Senior Bowl and we're obviously watching 710 00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:12,960 Speaker 1: a lot of these tackles there. There were a lot 711 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:14,920 Speaker 1: of them at the Senior Bowl. Jim Nagge, the Senior 712 00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:18,360 Speaker 1: executive executive director of the Senior Bowl, to a heck 713 00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:20,760 Speaker 1: of a job bringing talent and getting talent to show 714 00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:22,480 Speaker 1: up at the Senior Bowl. And so it happened to 715 00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:25,920 Speaker 1: be watching with coach GM Chris Ballard, and as we 716 00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:28,840 Speaker 1: were watching, we were watching Dalton Riiser from Kansas State. 717 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:32,600 Speaker 1: And they allow the players too, agree to pick what 718 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:35,680 Speaker 1: they want to do, especially if it's a crossover guy, 719 00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:37,640 Speaker 1: and so they try and convince the guy, hey, look 720 00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:41,360 Speaker 1: take day one, day two and do it at this position, 721 00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:43,560 Speaker 1: and maybe day three got this position. So there's some 722 00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:46,800 Speaker 1: crossover work. So teams can see you play different positions 723 00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:49,880 Speaker 1: and just open up your versatility and show the teams 724 00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:52,000 Speaker 1: what you can do. And so we were watching Dalton 725 00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:54,000 Speaker 1: Riiser and I was watching with our buddy Lance and 726 00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:57,360 Speaker 1: Ballard was there and so were watching Reisener, and so 727 00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:00,360 Speaker 1: one of us said something about Reiser being a guard, 728 00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:05,080 Speaker 1: and then I brought up the comment like, yeah, Brady Smith, 729 00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:07,440 Speaker 1: the guy you turned into a tackle because everybody thought 730 00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:08,600 Speaker 1: he was gonna be a guard. And he looked at 731 00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:10,280 Speaker 1: me and he went, well, we thought he was gonna 732 00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:13,600 Speaker 1: be a guard too, John, really yeah, And so that 733 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:16,640 Speaker 1: things can change once you get a guy in your campus. 734 00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:18,720 Speaker 1: They thought he was gonna be a guard, but then 735 00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:21,000 Speaker 1: the Colts tackle the right tackle was just it was 736 00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:23,280 Speaker 1: dreadfully tried a couple of guys in there, it didn't work, 737 00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:26,120 Speaker 1: and so they moved Braden Smith out there and just 738 00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:28,120 Speaker 1: said we gotta go with it. We got give him 739 00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:30,360 Speaker 1: a shot. He's the second rounder. He played tackle before 740 00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:31,880 Speaker 1: at Auburn. Yeah, we think he's gonna be guard. But 741 00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:33,440 Speaker 1: put him on a tackle. He ended up having a 742 00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:36,680 Speaker 1: really good year and probably solidified that tackle position for 743 00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:39,040 Speaker 1: the next eight to ten years at a minimum for Indianapolis. 744 00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:44,240 Speaker 1: So to his account, they got lucky too. And I'm 745 00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:47,080 Speaker 1: not saying that you go into it with the thought that, Okay, 746 00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:48,760 Speaker 1: this guy has to be a tackle or this guy 747 00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:50,560 Speaker 1: has to be a guard. I think you go in 748 00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:54,320 Speaker 1: with an idea of we think he's a tackle, so 749 00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:56,600 Speaker 1: let's go tackle, but maybe it turned out to be 750 00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:58,760 Speaker 1: a better guard. Or maybe you go in with the 751 00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:01,720 Speaker 1: thought that, yeah, look, you played tackling college, but we're 752 00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:04,320 Speaker 1: drafting you to be a guard. We think you're going 753 00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:07,000 Speaker 1: to be a guard and the one thing that hopefully 754 00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:09,759 Speaker 1: they'll do going forward. And I think with Xaviers to 755 00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:12,040 Speaker 1: a feel, they kind of got caught in that versatility 756 00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:15,360 Speaker 1: trap because Xavier played tackle at UCLA, but he was 757 00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:16,640 Speaker 1: not gonna be a tackle. We all knew he was 758 00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:19,000 Speaker 1: gonna be a guard. Yeah, but because of some injuries 759 00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:20,759 Speaker 1: some things that happened to training camp, he had to 760 00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:22,560 Speaker 1: kind of bounce between tackle and guard, and I think 761 00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:25,359 Speaker 1: that probably slowed his progress because he couldn't just hone 762 00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:27,879 Speaker 1: in like, let's just be a guard. Let's just learn guard, 763 00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:30,440 Speaker 1: and that's what you're gonna do. So I think it 764 00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:33,319 Speaker 1: would make more sense to have a guy that is 765 00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:35,680 Speaker 1: gonna be a tackle, and he's a tackle, and that's 766 00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:37,440 Speaker 1: what you're gonna be. There are no questions asked, but 767 00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:41,080 Speaker 1: there are a few intriguing candidates that could play tackle 768 00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:44,920 Speaker 1: or guard that might just they might just tempt you 769 00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:46,880 Speaker 1: enough at twenty three that you might want to do it. 770 00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:48,960 Speaker 1: I know, in a pinch sometimes guards have to slide 771 00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:50,839 Speaker 1: over to tackle. Tackles have to slide over guards. But 772 00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:54,280 Speaker 1: I know that several of our tackles in the past 773 00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:57,640 Speaker 1: have said when they actually felt comfortable, when they really 774 00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:01,200 Speaker 1: felt like it was they weren't thinking, they were just reacting, 775 00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:03,400 Speaker 1: and it was just, you know, it was very natural 776 00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:05,160 Speaker 1: when they were when they were playing in games what 777 00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:07,680 Speaker 1: they were supposed to do. It was in the third year. 778 00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:10,880 Speaker 1: And that's with just focusing on the tackle position. Yeah, absolutely, 779 00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:13,840 Speaker 1: may that just the case with you think left tackle, 780 00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:17,239 Speaker 1: right tackle, because especially left tackle such an important position. Well, yeah, 781 00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:20,719 Speaker 1: like moving around sort of slows it makes you you're 782 00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:22,880 Speaker 1: learning curve even steeper. It doesn't sound like much. And 783 00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:24,879 Speaker 1: we used to have a friend of ours who writes 784 00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:26,920 Speaker 1: for the Chronicle ken Hoffman. He used to joke with 785 00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:30,640 Speaker 1: Lance and I about, oh, left guard versus right guard, 786 00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:32,800 Speaker 1: or left guard versus left tackle, hes like, can you 787 00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:36,160 Speaker 1: move out thirty six inches? It's not that hard, or 788 00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:39,360 Speaker 1: you flip sides? Oh my gosh. But the way that 789 00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:41,319 Speaker 1: they'll talk about it, and I think this is so 790 00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:46,400 Speaker 1: true is do something one way for a significant amount 791 00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:48,760 Speaker 1: of your life. However, you want to brush your teeth, 792 00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:51,600 Speaker 1: you're right handed, right, brush your teeth with your right hand, 793 00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:55,040 Speaker 1: all right, now, yeah, left hand right? Do what your 794 00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:58,479 Speaker 1: left hand and see how difficult that is, because that's 795 00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:02,840 Speaker 1: really what you're doing for these guys, relatively speaking, because 796 00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:06,000 Speaker 1: the footworks different. Which foot is back, which foot you 797 00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:10,839 Speaker 1: which foot you kickstep with, which hand you punch with, 798 00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:14,359 Speaker 1: which hand is being placed on the rusher, and where 799 00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:17,680 Speaker 1: that all of that changes. And that's why I thought 800 00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:20,600 Speaker 1: it was interesting with Julian. I was Julian was the 801 00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:23,000 Speaker 1: guy that I thought of that. You know, it's they 802 00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:24,359 Speaker 1: all these guys come out and they want to do 803 00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:27,040 Speaker 1: whatever they can right, like whether it's right, left or right. 804 00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:29,919 Speaker 1: But they some of them definitely have strengths on one side, 805 00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:32,600 Speaker 1: dorsus another, no doubt. And when he was funny because 806 00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:34,399 Speaker 1: when you would watch him at the Greenbrier that first 807 00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:36,960 Speaker 1: his rookie year and he would go to left tackle, 808 00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:39,439 Speaker 1: It's like, oh boy, here we go, because we all thought, oh, 809 00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:41,239 Speaker 1: they drafted him to be a right tackles. Fourth rounder 810 00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:43,640 Speaker 1: is gonna be right tackle because at that point you 811 00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:45,719 Speaker 1: thought you were getting Dwayne Mack, so you thought he's 812 00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:47,640 Speaker 1: gonna be a right tackle. When you see him on 813 00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:49,440 Speaker 1: the right side, you could just see it was awkward 814 00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:52,560 Speaker 1: and kind of just didn't flow right. But they went 815 00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:55,600 Speaker 1: to the left side, you thought, man looks halfway decent. 816 00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:57,200 Speaker 1: Well that was just that was in a large part 817 00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:59,799 Speaker 1: because he was so comfortable there. Everything was right. Just 818 00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:02,359 Speaker 1: now flip everything just think is something that you do 819 00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:05,160 Speaker 1: every single day and you do it for your occupation, 820 00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:08,280 Speaker 1: your job, whatever it might be now flip it completely. 821 00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:11,799 Speaker 1: Dominant becomes right, Yeah, everything the dominant side is now 822 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:15,000 Speaker 1: flipped absolutely. Like I don't know, fill in your TPS 823 00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:21,480 Speaker 1: report to twentieth year Anniversary office. Take your TPS report columns. 824 00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:24,839 Speaker 1: You'll flip column how long? See how long that takes 825 00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:26,759 Speaker 1: you to get a customer? And that's that's kind of 826 00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:28,520 Speaker 1: what these guys. Oh, by the way, then they've got 827 00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:31,320 Speaker 1: a block a guy that's two hundred and seventy pounds 828 00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:35,400 Speaker 1: that runs a four six, throwing moves, throwing hands, strong 829 00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:37,560 Speaker 1: at all. That kind of instinctive about it, right, But 830 00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:40,719 Speaker 1: with everything opposite that, that's really tough. And so I 831 00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:43,320 Speaker 1: do think that they will look at a tackle. I 832 00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:45,839 Speaker 1: don't know if it's easier to go from tackle down 833 00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:48,680 Speaker 1: to guard. I don't know about that. But I think 834 00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:51,440 Speaker 1: the biggest thing with the offensive line is there's sixty 835 00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:53,520 Speaker 1: two sacks last year and Sean took a ton of hits. 836 00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:55,680 Speaker 1: That group's just got to get better across the board. 837 00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:58,440 Speaker 1: And if they find a guard they love and they 838 00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:01,400 Speaker 1: think that guard can push for plants, than amen, let's go. 839 00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:04,200 Speaker 1: But I would think more than likely it's going to 840 00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:06,399 Speaker 1: end up being a tackle position. And the good thing 841 00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:08,480 Speaker 1: is it's a pretty deep tackle draft, especially in the 842 00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:09,960 Speaker 1: first couple of routes. All Right, you and I are 843 00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:12,200 Speaker 1: always at the combine, and we like to since they 844 00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:14,840 Speaker 1: started opening it up to the public watching these drills together. 845 00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:17,319 Speaker 1: We've watched the bench press together. That's usually the one 846 00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:20,040 Speaker 1: that has really fun. That's really right to be very 847 00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:21,799 Speaker 1: very close to where a radio booth is set up 848 00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:25,080 Speaker 1: now looking at offensive tackles. I find that the media, 849 00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:27,719 Speaker 1: the press conferences to be very interesting. I feel like 850 00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:30,600 Speaker 1: when a guy's answering questions, I can kind of tell like, 851 00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:33,080 Speaker 1: this seems like a guy that would fit what. Yes, 852 00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:35,879 Speaker 1: this staff is looking forward this this guy doesn't. Yeah, 853 00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:38,160 Speaker 1: it's just the way they answer questions. I mean, I 854 00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:40,320 Speaker 1: know you can always be coached to answer questions differently, 855 00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:42,160 Speaker 1: but sometimes, you know, I think those are the guys 856 00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:43,839 Speaker 1: that are going to press the coaches are not. What 857 00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:47,000 Speaker 1: about for you when you're looking at these positions, what 858 00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:49,560 Speaker 1: do you think? I know they called the enderwear Olympics 859 00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:52,120 Speaker 1: and whatnot, but you know, forty yard dash, bench press, 860 00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:55,239 Speaker 1: vertical jump, broad jump, three cone drills, shuttle run, Like, 861 00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:57,560 Speaker 1: what are you? What are you looking at? With each 862 00:38:57,560 --> 00:38:59,239 Speaker 1: of those. Is there anyone that jumps out to you 863 00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:01,319 Speaker 1: more that you're gonna be more interested in this year? Well, 864 00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:04,000 Speaker 1: I couldn't care less about the forty four offensive lineman. 865 00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:08,600 Speaker 1: I really couldn't. I mean, you know that's there's really 866 00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:10,279 Speaker 1: no if you go back and look at their guys 867 00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:11,919 Speaker 1: that have been the fastest in the forty I don't 868 00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:14,919 Speaker 1: know if that's translated to how good those players have been. 869 00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:17,719 Speaker 1: Now it does at other positions. But what I do 870 00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:20,600 Speaker 1: look at for the forty is what is that what's 871 00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:23,759 Speaker 1: that ten yards split for an offensive lineman? Because they 872 00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:26,479 Speaker 1: always measure ten you know, the ten yards split? What's 873 00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:29,880 Speaker 1: that measurement? Because that an offensive lineman's gonna do. The 874 00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:31,880 Speaker 1: other ones that I like to see for offensive linemen 875 00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:34,120 Speaker 1: are the change of direction drills, you know, the three 876 00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:36,279 Speaker 1: cone drill, the short shuttle. I'd like to see those. 877 00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:39,480 Speaker 1: I like. I like the vertical jump. The vertical jump 878 00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:42,960 Speaker 1: is just a measure of explosion. How how explosive can 879 00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:44,759 Speaker 1: you be in The broad jump can can be the 880 00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:47,640 Speaker 1: same way. None of these drills, as Orlando Brown proved 881 00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:51,840 Speaker 1: last year, none of these drills. The flip side of 882 00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:53,720 Speaker 1: it is if you don't do them, well, it doesn't 883 00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:56,120 Speaker 1: mean you're a bad football player. But if you do 884 00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:57,680 Speaker 1: do them well, doesn't guarantee you're gonna be a great 885 00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:00,520 Speaker 1: football player. But what you're looking for our elite assets, 886 00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:03,319 Speaker 1: and I think some of those drills end up showing it. 887 00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:05,239 Speaker 1: I couldn't care less what a guy runs the forty in. 888 00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:07,319 Speaker 1: What's his ten yards split? If he's a pretty quick 889 00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:10,439 Speaker 1: ten yards split and his short shut on his three 890 00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:12,520 Speaker 1: cone drills are pretty good, that means he's got pretty 891 00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:15,359 Speaker 1: good feet, he can move, change in direction, those kind 892 00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:17,680 Speaker 1: of things. Now receivers DBS, you want to see the 893 00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:19,880 Speaker 1: long speed, Okay, you want to You want to know 894 00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:22,120 Speaker 1: how fat because we're seeing more teams throw the ball 895 00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:23,480 Speaker 1: down the field. We want to see how those guys 896 00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:26,759 Speaker 1: were Ruffler killed it and obviously you've seen that translate 897 00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:30,759 Speaker 1: and no question. And I even think his time didn't 898 00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:33,319 Speaker 1: even do him justice for how fast he actually is. 899 00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:36,120 Speaker 1: And I'll never forget sitting right next to him when 900 00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:37,799 Speaker 1: he was asked what he was going to run the 901 00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:40,719 Speaker 1: forty in. He didn't even hesitate. He was like four 902 00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:43,680 Speaker 1: three two, And then the next day he ran four 903 00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:46,839 Speaker 1: three one. Was like whoa like? He called it right 904 00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:48,799 Speaker 1: and all these other guys had been I'm gonna route 905 00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:50,239 Speaker 1: four two, I'm a rote four two, I'm run this, 906 00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:52,160 Speaker 1: and nobody got close. He's like, I'm run four three 907 00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:54,239 Speaker 1: two because that's what he had run. It is his 908 00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:56,960 Speaker 1: practice run the week or two before. So that's what 909 00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:58,600 Speaker 1: he said. He just you know, you know, will he 910 00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:02,319 Speaker 1: just that's what he said. Yeah, But I like I 911 00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:05,719 Speaker 1: like the position drills from lineman because just watching because 912 00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:07,160 Speaker 1: the biggest thing I look at is how they move, 913 00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:10,080 Speaker 1: how they how they look, and how they move. Because 914 00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:11,560 Speaker 1: you can look at offensive line and you've seen the 915 00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:13,480 Speaker 1: guys that come in our room. You don't have a 916 00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:15,760 Speaker 1: lot of a lot of people think, oh three hundred pounds, 917 00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:17,640 Speaker 1: that's a big fact. Guy. A lot of the guys 918 00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:19,160 Speaker 1: that you see in our room are not in the 919 00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:21,480 Speaker 1: locker room or not. They're not built like that. So 920 00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:23,200 Speaker 1: you get a chance to see how they're built and 921 00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:25,520 Speaker 1: then how they move. And I think that's gonna be 922 00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:28,520 Speaker 1: one of the biggest things, how those offensive lineman move. 923 00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:30,520 Speaker 1: And look, there might be a guy that goes up 924 00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:32,480 Speaker 1: there and does like six bench fresh reps or whatever, 925 00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:35,560 Speaker 1: and you Okay, functional strength might be an issue, but 926 00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:37,920 Speaker 1: Brandon Smith, the guy we talked about last year. He 927 00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:40,400 Speaker 1: did thirty five reps and you can see how that 928 00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:42,560 Speaker 1: would translate out on the field. And that's the other thing, 929 00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:45,959 Speaker 1: is how all link up and how that how those 930 00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:49,000 Speaker 1: assets actually perform on the field. I love it. It's 931 00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:50,920 Speaker 1: one of my favorite things to do with the combine, 932 00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:53,240 Speaker 1: watching the athletes come out and watch getting our first 933 00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:55,560 Speaker 1: look at them in person, because you never know which 934 00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:57,400 Speaker 1: one's gonna end up on the squad lead. All right, Johnny, 935 00:41:57,440 --> 00:41:59,359 Speaker 1: I'm also looking forward to seeing that John Harris one 936 00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:02,440 Speaker 1: hundred com on the website Houston Texans dot com. Check 937 00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:04,399 Speaker 1: back later this week. That's gonna do it for us 938 00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:07,160 Speaker 1: from inside the Hunday Texans Radio studio. Thanks so much 939 00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:10,920 Speaker 1: for listening to Mark Vandermer, Drudhorti, John Harris, I'm DPC two. 940 00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:12,600 Speaker 1: As always, Go Texans.