1 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 1: Mr garbut chaf teared down this wall. Either you're with 2 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:19,240 Speaker 1: us or you were with the terrorists. If you've got 3 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:21,959 Speaker 1: healthcare already, then you can keep your plan. If you 4 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:25,480 Speaker 1: are satisfied with is not President of the United States, 5 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 1: take it to the bank. Together, we will make America 6 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:36,600 Speaker 1: great again. It's what you've been waiting for all day. 7 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 1: Buck Sexton with America now joined the conversation called Buck 8 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 1: toll free at eight four four nine hundred Buck that's 9 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:48,959 Speaker 1: eight four four, nine hundred to eight to five the 10 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 1: Future of talk radio. Buck Sexton Team, Welcome to the 11 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 1: Freedom Hunt. Buck Sexton here with you now, all right, 12 00:00:57,640 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 1: Please you get a chance to chat with you about 13 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 1: all the things going on out there. Over the course 14 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 1: of the show. We will certainly discuss the inquiry into 15 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 1: that ambush that killed four of our Special Operations soldiers 16 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 1: in nijare. A lot of politics around that now, much 17 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 1: discussion from members of Congress saying that they need more oversight, 18 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 1: they need to know more. I'll get into it. But 19 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:24,320 Speaker 1: they want to know more. Perhaps they should pay more 20 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 1: attention to what they already should know about that, and 21 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 1: we'll talk some some depth about We'll get into some 22 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 1: depth about the latest on the tax plan and what 23 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 1: Congress is supposed to do. I'm increasingly of the mind 24 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:44,120 Speaker 1: that we're not going to see anything happen but before 25 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 1: the end of the year. So I don't know how 26 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 1: useful it is to get into all of the details 27 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 1: as we go along, other than to understand the ins 28 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 1: and outs of the policy debate over taxes. And I 29 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 1: know they've got prototypes of a border wall that they 30 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 1: have unveiled. So there are certainly some important developments with 31 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:10,079 Speaker 1: regard to the conversation over issues like the economy and 32 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 1: the immigration and immigration, but I don't know in terms 33 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 1: of legislation that we will see all that much. We'll 34 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:21,520 Speaker 1: get into that, but I wanted to start today. Well, 35 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 1: we will discuss uranium one and Russia and real collusion, 36 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 1: but first I want to establish a principle, and this 37 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:36,919 Speaker 1: is this goes right to the heart of the narrative 38 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:41,240 Speaker 1: that Democrats and the media, or the Democrat media working 39 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 1: in concert with each other, you could even say, working 40 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 1: in collusion with each other. This is one of their 41 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 1: favorite tricks. This is a ploy that I think, unfortunately 42 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:55,800 Speaker 1: works still much more than it should. And it's the 43 00:02:55,880 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 1: emergence of a problem, the emergence of a grave problem 44 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:07,360 Speaker 1: with a Republican administration that had been there before, but 45 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:09,640 Speaker 1: now we have to be told much more about it. 46 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 1: An example of this would be and this does tie 47 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:19,639 Speaker 1: into what's going on right now with the various conflicts 48 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 1: in which the U S and the U S soldiers 49 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 1: find themselves abroad casualty rates and reports on US casualties 50 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:31,639 Speaker 1: and how much attention they get from the media. Under 51 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 1: the Obama administration, as I have had to point out 52 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 1: and I think needs to be pointed out continuously going forward, 53 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 1: you had double the casualties in Afghanistan that happened under 54 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:50,119 Speaker 1: the Bush administration, and yet how many people even know that. 55 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 1: Why is there such a discrepancy in that knowledge. I 56 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 1: think it's because they didn't want to make things more 57 00:03:57,480 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 1: difficult for a democrat. And what gets public's attention and 58 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 1: and deserves more inquiry than our troops who are serving 59 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 1: overseas and who are taking casualties and fighting and risking 60 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:14,120 Speaker 1: life and Limb only answers nothing. It's more important than that, 61 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 1: And so why do they not cover it well? Because 62 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 1: it can be difficult for administration to have to make 63 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 1: some of those I have to make the case to 64 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:30,919 Speaker 1: the American people. So that's something that happens with the 65 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 1: anti war movement on the left. Anti war anti war 66 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 1: movement largely faded away for eight years, and it's not 67 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:40,040 Speaker 1: back quite yet, but it's starting to come back a 68 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 1: little bit. You'll see more of that. The opioid epidemic 69 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:45,720 Speaker 1: has certainly gotten worse over the last couple of years, 70 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:47,840 Speaker 1: but it was very bad in the latter years of 71 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 1: the Obama administration. Much less of a focus on that, 72 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:54,039 Speaker 1: And some of the classics stretching back for decades have 73 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:56,840 Speaker 1: to do with, you know, homelessness that will all of 74 00:04:56,880 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 1: a sudden be a major national news story as a 75 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:02,040 Speaker 1: homeless This has just appeared within a few all of 76 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 1: a sudden, within a few months of a Republican administration, 77 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 1: there's rampant homelessness. Well it's been there all along, but 78 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 1: now they'll do more stories on it. And this then 79 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:13,839 Speaker 1: brings me to Iraneum one and Russia and what I 80 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:20,479 Speaker 1: think is happening here because Russian interference in one way 81 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:25,719 Speaker 1: or another in US policy and our economy, in the 82 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:32,480 Speaker 1: decision making processes, Russian efforts to corrupt US businesses, and yes, policymakers, 83 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 1: decision makers at the top of government. They are not 84 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:40,919 Speaker 1: in the least new. The Russians and other countries that 85 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:45,919 Speaker 1: have the resources and the will to do so, have 86 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 1: been trying to interfere in these ways for many decades. 87 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 1: I can't even begin to put a this is when 88 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 1: it started on it right, because in the case of 89 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 1: the Russians, it's goes back to the Cold War, goes 90 00:05:57,440 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 1: back to before the Cold War. And what I think 91 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:06,919 Speaker 1: has happened now with some of these recent revelations, some 92 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:10,919 Speaker 1: of the very good reporting out there about uranium one 93 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:15,479 Speaker 1: is that at a minimum, at a minimum, it is 94 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 1: clear and I think that there's much more to it 95 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 1: than this, but at a minimum, it is clear that 96 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:25,839 Speaker 1: the previous administration could have and should have raised alarms 97 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:30,280 Speaker 1: about Russian interference and corruption and violations of the Foreign 98 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 1: Corrupt Practices Act and uh serial violations of US federal 99 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:39,679 Speaker 1: criminal law. The Obama administration could have raised the alarm 100 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 1: about it, but did not. They did not for reasons 101 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 1: that we will continue to look at. But at first glance, 102 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:50,359 Speaker 1: when you go through all the facts of this, and 103 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 1: it's it's a little byzantine. It is a complicated matter 104 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:57,359 Speaker 1: to weigh into the details of this case of the 105 00:06:57,480 --> 00:07:02,120 Speaker 1: uranium one story, but the more you look into it, 106 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 1: the more clear it is that there was something very 107 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 1: fishy going on. It was stinky fish with Russia and 108 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 1: our nuclear sector and the people that we're making decisions, 109 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 1: the Obama administration, Hillary Clinton as Secretary of State, and 110 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 1: the ethics panel that was approving dozens of Bill Clinton 111 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 1: speeches all over the world while his wife was Secretary 112 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 1: of State, including to a Kremlin connected bank for five 113 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars. I have to hat hit our friend 114 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 1: Andy McCarthy for pointing out a National Review that we 115 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 1: are seeing reports about a hundred thousand dollars spent on 116 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 1: Facebook ads as though they changed the election, and the 117 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 1: same people that are outraged in the media that we 118 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 1: don't get more outraged about that seemed to yawn. They 119 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 1: could care less. There is no particular interest from them 120 00:07:56,680 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 1: about how Bill Clinton was getting paid a half million dollars. 121 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 1: That's that's real money, even to the Clintons to give 122 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 1: a a speech, a speech nobody remembered and nobody cared about. 123 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 1: How many half million dollars speeches do you think Bill 124 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 1: Clinton has given this year now that his wife lost. 125 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 1: I'm gonna guess not very many. How many eight hundred 126 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 1: tho dollar speeches do you think Bill Clinton has given 127 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 1: this year now that his wife is no longer going 128 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 1: to be president. I'm gonna guess zero. Never mind, the 129 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 1: way the media is going to have to circle the 130 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 1: wagons and try and convince us all once we see 131 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:38,200 Speaker 1: plumbering donations. And they already shut down the Clinton Global 132 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:41,199 Speaker 1: Initiative right away right after the election because they because 133 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 1: they knew it was no one was going to give 134 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:45,320 Speaker 1: that money anymore, because that was just a way for 135 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 1: countries all over the world to buy influence or even 136 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 1: just the perception of influence with the Clintons. That's why 137 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 1: when we look at the issue of Russia collusion now 138 00:08:57,440 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 1: and you see some of the names involved in the 139 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 1: fb eyes investigation into Uranium one and the Russian subsidiary 140 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 1: and Rossa Tom and all this stuff that's out there 141 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 1: right now, as you look at you, you will see 142 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:18,960 Speaker 1: some names. You will see some folks who are uh 143 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:24,840 Speaker 1: familiar to all of you. Um, you will see some 144 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 1: folks who are playing a role even today, who are 145 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 1: playing a role in the Russia collusion investigation, names like 146 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:40,439 Speaker 1: Comey and his number two his name what is it? Uh? Rod? 147 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:43,440 Speaker 1: Not now he's what is Rod Rosenstein? I forget what 148 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 1: role he is now with the d J. Is he? Uh? 149 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 1: What is He's number two? Isn't it? Anyway? He's in 150 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 1: charge of the Russia collusion stuff, I think. But the 151 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 1: FBI was involved with criminal investigations of Russian involvement in 152 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:59,200 Speaker 1: the nuclear sector in this country. Obama administration was quiet 153 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 1: on it. The FBI was also aware, according to newly 154 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:10,600 Speaker 1: released reports, that there were efforts underway to try and 155 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 1: get close, to have agents of influence close to Hillary Clinton, 156 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 1: to the senior levels of the State Department. And that 157 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 1: was ongoing. And we know that Bill Clintons getting checks 158 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:30,839 Speaker 1: for half a million dollars a year, and all of 159 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:33,960 Speaker 1: this was happening. Now you can say to me, oh well, buck, 160 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 1: that was then and she didn't win. But here's what 161 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 1: I know for sure, this whole Oh my gosh, Russia 162 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:43,720 Speaker 1: was so involved in our last election. There's a question 163 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:48,600 Speaker 1: of protecting our democracy. This is a question of salvaging 164 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:50,720 Speaker 1: the republic. We have to get to the bottom of this. 165 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 1: They were buying Facebook ads for heaven's sakes, there are 166 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 1: Russian suck puppets out there on Twitter that are saying 167 00:10:57,880 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 1: means stuff about Hillary. This is this is a national 168 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 1: security issue of the highest order. They're saying all this stuff, 169 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:08,199 Speaker 1: and we've got Mueller, who now is I know, looking 170 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 1: at Podesta, you know, I think Podesta feels fine about 171 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 1: this though, because as shady as Podesta to me seems 172 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 1: to be, uh, Mueller is gonna make Mueller is not 173 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 1: going after any Democrats. He's going out for Republicans. He's 174 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:26,079 Speaker 1: going out for Trump and Trump's people. But as all 175 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:29,680 Speaker 1: of this is happening, we have this investigation the sole purpose, 176 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 1: sole purpose of which is to envy current administration, to 177 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 1: just finish, finish it off, to force Trump to resign 178 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:40,480 Speaker 1: or one of his top people to resign and maybe 179 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:43,840 Speaker 1: go to prison. That's the purpose of the investigation. There 180 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:46,560 Speaker 1: is no conclusion they will draw from all of this 181 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 1: vast outlet of FBI resources, resources, and an investigative effort. 182 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 1: There's no conclusion that they will draw that will help 183 00:11:56,600 --> 00:12:00,960 Speaker 1: us into the future. This is payback playing and simple. 184 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:03,960 Speaker 1: But you can look at this and know a few things. 185 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 1: One the Obama administration didn't make this public, didn't want 186 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:11,600 Speaker 1: us to know about it, and was I think covering 187 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 1: for some of Hillary's people, didn't want this to get 188 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:17,079 Speaker 1: too big. And you can get into the plea bargain 189 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 1: for the one guy who was tied into this Russia 190 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 1: uranium uranium one scandal who pled to a minor federal 191 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:29,959 Speaker 1: charge and how that happened. But you can also then 192 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:32,440 Speaker 1: step back and say, hold on a minute, Russia was 193 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 1: doing all this stuff during the Obama years. We didn't 194 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 1: hear a peep about this. You had Russian Russian agents 195 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 1: in this country trying to have their hand in our 196 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:45,840 Speaker 1: nuclear sector, trying to get close to Hillary Clinton in 197 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:48,200 Speaker 1: the top echelon of the State Department. Get all this 198 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 1: going on, and we hear nothing, We are absolutely nothing. 199 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 1: And then Trump wins the election, beats Hillary, and we 200 00:12:55,080 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 1: are treated to frequent, frequent lectures about how Russia is 201 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 1: such a threat now and Russia, we should nullify the 202 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 1: election because of their interference and all of this. See 203 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:12,720 Speaker 1: what I mean about how this is this is not 204 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:17,040 Speaker 1: even forget about even being able to prove yet everything 205 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:19,200 Speaker 1: that happened dunder the Obama years with Clinton, and it's 206 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 1: still very relevant. It's relevant as a matter of statute 207 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 1: because it's within the time frame for almost all we're 208 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 1: talking about what in the last few years your average 209 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 1: federal crime. Most federal crimes have a five year prosecutorial 210 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 1: statue limitations on them. But beyond that, looking at the 211 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:40,319 Speaker 1: narrative now of what they're trying to tell us, there 212 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:43,239 Speaker 1: was all kinds of corruption and Russian interference and collusion 213 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:49,320 Speaker 1: and coercion corruption. While Obama's in office, his FBI is 214 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 1: looking at it's none. At the very top level, Hillary's husband, 215 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 1: as chief Secretary of State is taking huge checks from 216 00:13:55,559 --> 00:13:59,079 Speaker 1: Russian banks with direct ties to the Kremlin, which means basically, 217 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 1: the Kremlin's writing Bill Clinton huge checks while his wife 218 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 1: is looking at all this And now we're supposed to 219 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:09,319 Speaker 1: worry about Russia now now that Hillary lost the election. 220 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:13,080 Speaker 1: This is why they This is why they have no credibility. 221 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 1: This is why people don't want to hear it. This 222 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:21,640 Speaker 1: is why there is a willingness to tune out a 223 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 1: lot of the allegations about Trump and his the latest 224 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 1: with you know, the Russia collusion investigation, because they've just 225 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 1: discovered this problem of Russian interference when it's convenient for them. 226 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 1: They hit it when it was not convenient for them, 227 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 1: and it may be a lot more than just inconvenient. 228 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 1: It may be a question of illegality. You can take 229 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 1: my word for it, or you can believe Hillary Clinton. 230 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 1: She's got something to say. It's the same bologna they've 231 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:53,920 Speaker 1: been peddling for years, and there's been no no credible 232 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 1: evidence by anyone. In fact, it's been debunked repeatedly and 233 00:14:57,440 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 1: will continue to be debunked by Trump and his allies, 234 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 1: including Fox News, are really experts at distraction and diversion. 235 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 1: So the closer the investigation about real Russian ties between 236 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:14,080 Speaker 1: Trump associates and real Russians, the more they want to 237 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 1: just throw mud on the wall. And I'm their favorite target, 238 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 1: me and you know President Obama with the crosshairs. Um, 239 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 1: so yes, I'm I'm not surprised, But I think the 240 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 1: real story is how nervous they are about these continuing investigations. 241 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 1: She keeps saying things like debunked, which is a great 242 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 1: pr word when you're trying to defuse something without actually 243 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 1: dealing with it. On the merits, did Trump ever get 244 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 1: a check for half million dollars to show up and 245 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 1: give a speech to Russian back bank when his wife 246 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 1: was Secretary of State looking at an issue of national 247 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:49,520 Speaker 1: security and nuclear energy. No, I'm pretty sure that never happened. 248 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 1: So let's just keep it real here and look at 249 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:54,360 Speaker 1: the facts as they are and not as Hillary wishes 250 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 1: them to be. Eight four four eight to five eight 251 00:15:57,880 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 1: four four nine, buck have got much more. Stay with 252 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 1: the uranium one deal that of US uranium going to 253 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 1: Russian interest after Bill Clinton gave a half a million 254 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:11,480 Speaker 1: dollar speech in Russia and while Hillary Clinton was at 255 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:14,280 Speaker 1: the State Department. So this is the type of connect 256 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:16,680 Speaker 1: the dot, connect the dots pology and that a lot 257 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 1: of Americans like to play. And I think that if 258 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:21,120 Speaker 1: we're going to continue to talk about Russia, Russia, Russia, 259 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:24,240 Speaker 1: some of those other outlets can dust off their kirns 260 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:26,840 Speaker 1: and screaming graphics I haven't seen in a while and 261 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 1: talk about uranium one. Oh, but they won't. That was 262 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 1: Kelly and Conway, Um, And we know that the media 263 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:38,000 Speaker 1: will not touch the uranium one scandals. I'm wondering who 264 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 1: will be the first to break the story. Well, there's 265 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 1: a lot of stories were broken here, but the first 266 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:47,360 Speaker 1: one to break the story that the Clinton Foundations foreign uh, 267 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 1: foreign donations are down. I'm gonna guess I'm gonna go 268 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 1: and and we should note this for whatever it comes out, right, 269 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 1: I'm gonna guess the Clinton Foundation this year is down 270 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 1: and with whatever ast is closed from international donors, which 271 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:05,679 Speaker 1: for a foundation that was nothing but getting bigger and 272 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 1: bigger for every year, that to me seems what amies 273 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:14,760 Speaker 1: that sound about? Right? I think I'm gonna put it out. 274 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:18,359 Speaker 1: It could be, it could be more, but that's because 275 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 1: if they get if they all stopped giving right away, 276 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:23,399 Speaker 1: it's almost too embarrassing for the for some of the 277 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:25,719 Speaker 1: donor countries that they were just trying to buy influence. 278 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 1: But the media never was very interested in those stories. 279 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 1: They never thought that it was strange that the wife, 280 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:36,200 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, that the husband of the Secretary of State 281 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:39,159 Speaker 1: Bill Clinton could go all over the world and just 282 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 1: get the sign off for these speeches, which is just 283 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:45,120 Speaker 1: like taking a donation. I mean, these speeches are not 284 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:48,720 Speaker 1: it's not what the market will bear. It's just a 285 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 1: means of laundering money for influence peddling. That's all it is. 286 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:59,200 Speaker 1: That's all it is. There's no no one, no one 287 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:02,800 Speaker 1: that uh is a former politician is giving an eighth 288 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:08,000 Speaker 1: speech because that's what the dollars and cents dictate anyway. 289 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 1: But none of the major networks want to get into this. 290 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:16,160 Speaker 1: CBS did on Sunday's face The Nation mentioned this and 291 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:18,680 Speaker 1: and and here's the totality I think of what CBS 292 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:22,200 Speaker 1: was willing to touch on the uranium one scandal. You're 293 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 1: looking into the Russian influence in the election. There have 294 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 1: been reports this week about Russian efforts to h try 295 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:31,680 Speaker 1: to influence the Obama administration and try to influence perhaps 296 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:35,080 Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton through donations to the Clinton Foundation with respect 297 00:18:35,119 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 1: to the purchase of uranium. Is that something that the 298 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 1: Intelligence Committee should look at that you're interested in looking at. 299 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 1: So we need we need to finish up the report 300 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 1: that we have now. But that is an unsettled issue. 301 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:48,879 Speaker 1: That's something that the FBI has pursued for now a 302 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:51,880 Speaker 1: decade to try to determine what influence was done. As 303 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 1: you know that there are several Russians that have been 304 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 1: arrested for this or have been charged on these crimes 305 00:18:57,840 --> 00:19:00,199 Speaker 1: of trying to be able to influence the per just 306 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 1: your in the deal on uranium with the Obama administration 307 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:11,120 Speaker 1: through the Clinton Foundation. They're unanswered questions that shouldn't be answered. Okay, 308 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:13,680 Speaker 1: there are unanswered questions, not not a lot more than 309 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 1: that from them. That's kind of it, right, And yeah, 310 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 1: by the way, he just asked the question. They didn't 311 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 1: do like a full segment on or anything anyway. All right, Uh, 312 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:24,880 Speaker 1: I guess well, we'll do a quick update on the 313 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:27,520 Speaker 1: the feud between Trump and those were saying he doesn't 314 00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:30,439 Speaker 1: treat gold Star families well and the latest with the Uh. 315 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:33,640 Speaker 1: Then we'll get into the Niger ambush in the next hour, 316 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:35,640 Speaker 1: which will be a very interest segments. So definitely stay 317 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 1: around and we'll be right back. I had hoped that 318 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:44,439 Speaker 1: the debate, the controversy, the feud, all this stuff about 319 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 1: the phone call from President Trump to gold Star widow 320 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:55,719 Speaker 1: Misha Johnson. I had hoped that we had put this issue, 321 00:19:56,880 --> 00:19:59,480 Speaker 1: uh in the rear view after last week when there 322 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 1: was this slew of allegations at the Trump that that 323 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:06,919 Speaker 1: the Trump that Trump in cold hearted fashion called and 324 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:10,679 Speaker 1: was disrespectful to a gold Star widow, and it's just 325 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 1: didn't ring true, didn't make any sense. I didn't buy it. Now, 326 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:20,200 Speaker 1: did she think that Trump was imprecise in his speech. 327 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:22,680 Speaker 1: Did he stumble or something? What was his tone? Not 328 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:26,240 Speaker 1: what she expects. That's all possible. And certainly this, this 329 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:31,359 Speaker 1: woman in her time of grief. Ms Johnson is entitled 330 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 1: to deference and and and would be entitled the privacy 331 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:36,440 Speaker 1: if the media would leave her alone, and if a 332 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:40,680 Speaker 1: congresswoman hadn't decided to make this a national issue. But now, 333 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's tough. I mean, she's entitled the privacy, 334 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 1: but I don't think she's gonna get much of it 335 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:47,760 Speaker 1: right at least not right now, not while she's still 336 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:51,760 Speaker 1: useful for attacking Trump, which is what this is all about. 337 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 1: That is what this is all about. It's about attacking Trump. 338 00:20:57,800 --> 00:21:03,199 Speaker 1: It's not about the sanctity of gold Star Family members, uh, 339 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:05,440 Speaker 1: in the view of Republicans or in the view of 340 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:08,200 Speaker 1: Democrats or no, no, no, this is just about attacking Trump. 341 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:13,400 Speaker 1: That is the purpose of this entire series of of stories. 342 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:17,439 Speaker 1: And it's why there was such a fascination and a 343 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 1: push on this story last week and once again today 344 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 1: we have more, we have more interviews with Ms. Johnson. 345 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:29,480 Speaker 1: If this were about given her time to grieve and 346 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:34,480 Speaker 1: being respectful of the very difficult situation she she is in, 347 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 1: I would think the media would probably leave her alone, 348 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:40,160 Speaker 1: but no, not, And she is now being elevated as 349 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 1: a specifically as a person who was useful for attacking 350 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:54,439 Speaker 1: the presidency, just as uh Kazir Khan last summer was 351 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:58,240 Speaker 1: as a gold star father elevated by the media specifically 352 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 1: for the purposes of attacking President Trump and attacting the administration. 353 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:03,720 Speaker 1: And as I've said to you, this is a longstanding 354 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:07,240 Speaker 1: Democrat tactic. Right in the first half of this hour, 355 00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:10,920 Speaker 1: we talked about the discovery of new widespread problems during 356 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:14,679 Speaker 1: Republican administrations that existed during Democrat administrations. But it's just 357 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:18,680 Speaker 1: is a narrative construct. It's a it's a tool. Sometimes 358 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 1: they talk about it, sometimes they don't. Well, now we're 359 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 1: talking about how Democrats like to traffic in and exploit grief. 360 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 1: They like to exploit grief. This has been going on 361 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 1: for a long time. And as I mentioned, this happened 362 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:42,440 Speaker 1: with a few of the nine eleven widows many years ago. 363 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:45,800 Speaker 1: Uh I think it was four or five of the 364 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 1: thousands of family members decided to become very, very political 365 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 1: and if you challenge them, you were a bad person. Well, 366 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:55,960 Speaker 1: right now, they want to keep giving as many interviews 367 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 1: as possible to gold Star widow Misha Johnson because she 368 00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 1: obviously didn't like the call she had with President Trump. 369 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 1: I don't know how much of that has now been 370 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:08,680 Speaker 1: influenced or how much she has been influenced by Congresswoman Wilson, 371 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:11,840 Speaker 1: who was presidented started this whole thing. But here is 372 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:16,200 Speaker 1: what MS. Johnson had to say about the situation. It's 373 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:20,399 Speaker 1: the President said that he knew what he signed up for, 374 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 1: but it hurts anyways, and I was It made me 375 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:29,600 Speaker 1: cry because I was very angry at the tone of 376 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:33,400 Speaker 1: his voice and how he said he couldn't remember my 377 00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:36,480 Speaker 1: husband named. The only way he remember my husband named 378 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:39,399 Speaker 1: because he told me he had my husband report in 379 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 1: front of him. And that's when he actually said, La Davy. 380 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:48,640 Speaker 1: I heard him stumbling on trying to remember my husband name. 381 00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:52,960 Speaker 1: What did you say to the President? I didn't. I 382 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:59,119 Speaker 1: didn't say anything now of a few things here, and 383 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 1: I'm hoping this is the last time I'm gonna talk 384 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 1: to you about this on this show. I'm gonna I'm 385 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:06,720 Speaker 1: gonna try to not include because there's nothing else really 386 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:10,480 Speaker 1: to say at this point, at least I don't think 387 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:13,800 Speaker 1: there is. Maybe it's something will come to mind. But 388 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:17,600 Speaker 1: here's here's what would I immediate, What immediately jumps out 389 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:20,520 Speaker 1: at me about all of this one is, we've already 390 00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:22,320 Speaker 1: dealt with this. He knew what he was signing up for. 391 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 1: Many of you called in, many of you who have 392 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:27,919 Speaker 1: served yourselves or family members who have served in and 393 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 1: that that is an expression meant to convey the uh, 394 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:35,919 Speaker 1: the fortitude and the courage of character to choose to 395 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:39,680 Speaker 1: choose to do this, to take these risks for your country, 396 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:42,320 Speaker 1: and that it was a wilful act of courage, a 397 00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:46,159 Speaker 1: willful act of bravery and service and sacrifice to the nation. 398 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:50,040 Speaker 1: And so it is to honor that decision to say 399 00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:52,359 Speaker 1: that it was he knew what he was doing, or 400 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:54,400 Speaker 1: he knew what he was signing up for. He he 401 00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:57,760 Speaker 1: was there because he wanted to be there. And I've 402 00:24:57,800 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 1: even heard now and I've gone back and read some 403 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:04,560 Speaker 1: their speeches and eulogies and discussions of soldiers lost in battle, 404 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:09,040 Speaker 1: and that is a that is a recurring theme. So 405 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:13,360 Speaker 1: that was a misunderstanding, and to me that that strikes 406 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 1: me as uh as completely that that is what that is, 407 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:21,720 Speaker 1: what it is it is a misunderstanding, meaning that he 408 00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 1: was trying to convey a sentiment, but his intentions were good, 409 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:29,920 Speaker 1: this being the president, and miss uh Johnson, miss Masha 410 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:34,639 Speaker 1: Johnson was interpreting in a way that made her upset. 411 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:36,680 Speaker 1: And and that's a shame, and that's terrible, and you 412 00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:39,440 Speaker 1: know that's not this is not the way it should 413 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:41,840 Speaker 1: have gone. But this is what happened, and it was 414 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:43,960 Speaker 1: I don't believe it was the president's intent at all, 415 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:46,399 Speaker 1: and I don't think it makes him a bad person 416 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:51,200 Speaker 1: that he didn't managed to convey himself perfectly in these circumstances. 417 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:54,840 Speaker 1: It's difficult. Look, I just went to one of my 418 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:58,040 Speaker 1: oldest friends in the whole world, one of my dearest 419 00:25:58,040 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 1: friends growing up for many, many years. I just went 420 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:04,760 Speaker 1: to his father's funeral a few weeks back, and it 421 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:06,919 Speaker 1: was actually I was I was at the the wake 422 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:11,080 Speaker 1: um and I spoke to the family and I'm not 423 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:13,680 Speaker 1: gonna lie. I'm somebody who spends three hours a day 424 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:17,720 Speaker 1: speaking really without notes, extemporaneously on radio and held to 425 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 1: account for what I say. It's all recorded and people 426 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 1: are hearing it all across the country. But seeing somebody 427 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:25,240 Speaker 1: who had been a friend of mine since I was 428 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:28,720 Speaker 1: seven or eight years old and grew up with and 429 00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:30,720 Speaker 1: knew the parents very well, and seeing that his dad 430 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:36,480 Speaker 1: had passed away, I tried to be uh supportive. I 431 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:38,480 Speaker 1: tried to be eloquent, but I'm not gonna lie. I 432 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 1: don't think I you know, what do you say? I'm 433 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:42,960 Speaker 1: so sorry for your love. There's only so many things 434 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:44,440 Speaker 1: you can say, only so many ways to say it. 435 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:47,879 Speaker 1: I'm so sorry for your loss. I'm just bringing this 436 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,800 Speaker 1: up to indicate that these are not easy situations. These 437 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:53,040 Speaker 1: aren't an easy things to talk about for anyone, which 438 00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:56,000 Speaker 1: is why General Kelly specifically in the case of somebody 439 00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:59,119 Speaker 1: lost in a combat situation, right, it's not somebody who 440 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:03,399 Speaker 1: passed away a peacefully, you know, at a at a 441 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:07,240 Speaker 1: at an elderly age, after a great and fulsome life 442 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:09,680 Speaker 1: and lots of grandkids and everything. So somebody dies in combat. 443 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:11,800 Speaker 1: He's got a wife and kids at home. I mean, 444 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:15,000 Speaker 1: this is this is really hard, and this is why 445 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:16,960 Speaker 1: General Kelly was saying, look, don't do it. But the 446 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 1: president thought that he could do. He tried to handle it, 447 00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:21,520 Speaker 1: and you did the best that he could. Okay, but 448 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 1: there was no ill intent and so you would think 449 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:24,560 Speaker 1: you'd let it go. And then on the on the 450 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:27,960 Speaker 1: point about the name, I mean, here's what here's look, 451 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,160 Speaker 1: here's what the commander, the commander in chief himself says 452 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:36,080 Speaker 1: about this. I spoke of the name of the young man, uh, 453 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:40,080 Speaker 1: and I it was it was a really it's a 454 00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:42,880 Speaker 1: it's a very tough call. Those are the toughest. These 455 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:46,480 Speaker 1: are tougher than dealing with the heads of countries. Believe me, 456 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:51,200 Speaker 1: these are very very hard calls. They're sad and sometimes, 457 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:55,600 Speaker 1: you know, the grieving is so incredible. Yes, I mean 458 00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:57,919 Speaker 1: all all of that is true. It's very difficult. And 459 00:27:57,960 --> 00:27:59,719 Speaker 1: as I was saying, at a much at a much 460 00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:01,480 Speaker 1: less or level, because you know, I was in a 461 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:05,719 Speaker 1: situation where I was just there is Uh. When somebody 462 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:09,399 Speaker 1: passes away at a certain age, you know, with with 463 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:13,040 Speaker 1: a very fulsome life, with loving family around him and everything, 464 00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:15,560 Speaker 1: you know, you can say that this is we should 465 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:18,680 Speaker 1: all be so lucky, right, That's very It's very different 466 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:21,240 Speaker 1: than when you're somebody who's in the prime of his 467 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:23,280 Speaker 1: or her life and and died on the field of 468 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:26,520 Speaker 1: combat and leaves behind a family and people that really 469 00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:29,160 Speaker 1: needed that person. You know, I mean that's a different 470 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:30,679 Speaker 1: kind of loss. But I'm just saying, even in the 471 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:34,160 Speaker 1: situation of the person who's lived a full life, it's 472 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:36,640 Speaker 1: difficult to and as somebody you're very close to, it's 473 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:41,600 Speaker 1: difficult to express yourself perfectly in these circumstances. So then 474 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:43,560 Speaker 1: you add to it what the president is trying to 475 00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:45,880 Speaker 1: do here, and I just I do think that it's Look, 476 00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:49,360 Speaker 1: it could have been handled better, but the President was trying. 477 00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:51,600 Speaker 1: He was trying, and he and it's because he does 478 00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:54,120 Speaker 1: respect the military so much. On this point about the 479 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:56,040 Speaker 1: name and saying the name and whether he stumbled on 480 00:28:56,120 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 1: the name. Okay, the President did not know this, uh, 481 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:05,000 Speaker 1: this soldier personally, he is expressing his condolences as commander 482 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 1: in chief. I'm sure that as he was there, he 483 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:10,240 Speaker 1: probably had a sheet in front of him with the 484 00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:13,320 Speaker 1: name and background. I mean, that's just you would expect that, right, 485 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:15,280 Speaker 1: I mean, the commander in chief. When somebody comes in 486 00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:17,040 Speaker 1: and they're about to take an order from the commander 487 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:19,080 Speaker 1: in chief, or or rather they're about to have a 488 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:22,120 Speaker 1: discussion with the commander in chief, you know he's gonna 489 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:24,520 Speaker 1: get a sheet beforehand on who this person would be. 490 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:29,479 Speaker 1: The president can't know everyone's name and everything that's going on, right, 491 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:31,240 Speaker 1: so he's gonna I'm not saying he should have known 492 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:32,760 Speaker 1: the soldier's name. I'm just saying he probably had a 493 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:37,000 Speaker 1: sheet in front of him, and he might have stumbled 494 00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:38,760 Speaker 1: as he was reading it, or he might have paused 495 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:40,400 Speaker 1: for a second to make sure that he got it right. 496 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:43,720 Speaker 1: He might have thought, wait, is it David or la David. 497 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:48,560 Speaker 1: I'm just these are these are possibilities and I'm surmising here, 498 00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:51,680 Speaker 1: but no ill intent. There was no ill intention. I've 499 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:55,800 Speaker 1: yet to see how that could be a takeaway from 500 00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:58,480 Speaker 1: any of this. And and then we get to why 501 00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:01,160 Speaker 1: I'm really wanting to talking about that, because I know 502 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:04,920 Speaker 1: the levels of analysis here, and we're we're getting very 503 00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:07,600 Speaker 1: into the weeds of of something that perhaps should have 504 00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:09,920 Speaker 1: been left behind last week as a as a topic 505 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:12,760 Speaker 1: of conversation in the media and on the show, and 506 00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:15,040 Speaker 1: I'm hoping to leave it leave it behind today. One 507 00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:19,200 Speaker 1: more thing. The exploitation of grief here by the media 508 00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:24,840 Speaker 1: in the case of Misha Johnson is just unconscionable, and 509 00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:27,320 Speaker 1: it just goes to show you that they will they 510 00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:30,600 Speaker 1: will do anything, they will take any position, they will 511 00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:36,240 Speaker 1: hold any posture if it allows them to be damaging 512 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:40,160 Speaker 1: towards the Trump administration. They will go from all gold 513 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:43,600 Speaker 1: star families are sacred. How dare President Trump upset one 514 00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:47,560 Speaker 1: of them? To two days later, General Kelly doesn't count 515 00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:49,640 Speaker 1: as a gold Star father because he works for Trump. 516 00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:53,000 Speaker 1: That was basically their attitude. Oh and he's a racist too, 517 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:56,080 Speaker 1: by the way, and he grew up in sexist, racist Boston. 518 00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:59,000 Speaker 1: I mean, the things that were said about General Kelly 519 00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:01,480 Speaker 1: by people with big platforms, paid a lot of money, 520 00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:05,320 Speaker 1: a lot of influence, People like Lawrence of Donald and 521 00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:08,600 Speaker 1: Joy Reid, who would have very close connections to a 522 00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:11,240 Speaker 1: Democrat administration, may be able to get Hillary on the 523 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:13,800 Speaker 1: phone if she had been president. The things they said 524 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:19,600 Speaker 1: about General Kelly were disgusting, and it just was further proof, 525 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:23,560 Speaker 1: further evidence of how the media has no principles that 526 00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:26,000 Speaker 1: are not subject to the whims of of any given 527 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:30,720 Speaker 1: political moment. They are an attack machine for an ideology. 528 00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:34,440 Speaker 1: And yeah, there's some opposition, there's she was like this one, 529 00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:38,320 Speaker 1: there's talk radio, there's Fox News. But we're in the 530 00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:40,600 Speaker 1: we're in the ten percent category. We're about ten percent 531 00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:43,000 Speaker 1: of the media voice out there. Maybe twenty at best, 532 00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:46,000 Speaker 1: and they're all the rest of it, and they pretend 533 00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:49,000 Speaker 1: to be honest and forthright and have no agenda whatsoever, 534 00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:55,480 Speaker 1: which is just nonsense. But it's really grotesque watching how 535 00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:58,960 Speaker 1: they have positioned themselves, how the main networks and the 536 00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:01,840 Speaker 1: biggest newspapers in the country. I've been trying to use 537 00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:04,600 Speaker 1: once again, it golds a gold Star family member, in 538 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:06,240 Speaker 1: this case a gold Star widow before it was a 539 00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:10,680 Speaker 1: gold Star father as a as a weapon against the administration, 540 00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:15,880 Speaker 1: instead of just holding this up as an area of 541 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:22,080 Speaker 1: American civic life, of of American life in general, that 542 00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:25,520 Speaker 1: is sacrosanct. They they don't Nothing is sacrosanct to them. 543 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:28,920 Speaker 1: They don't care. They don't care if it hurts Trump, 544 00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:32,320 Speaker 1: certainly they don't care. It just goes to the depth 545 00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:36,240 Speaker 1: of the animosity here. It is a It isn't in 546 00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:39,680 Speaker 1: a state of pathology. I mean, it's it's a delusion. 547 00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:44,440 Speaker 1: It's they have created this alternate reality where Trump is 548 00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:47,080 Speaker 1: really going to destroy America unless they do, unless they're 549 00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:51,400 Speaker 1: willing to destroy anything to stop him, even the reverence 550 00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:54,640 Speaker 1: with which we hold those and the families of those 551 00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:58,880 Speaker 1: who serve this country in uniform, that will be sacrificed 552 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:02,360 Speaker 1: on the left to the anti Trump narrative. It's it's appalling, 553 00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:05,040 Speaker 1: all right. I'm hoping we'll leave it there on that 554 00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:07,280 Speaker 1: and uh no more needs to be set on it 555 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:10,680 Speaker 1: if you have any thoughts on it. Eight four buck 556 00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:16,080 Speaker 1: eight four four to five. The ambush and Niger big 557 00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:19,400 Speaker 1: news story today on that are lots of new stories 558 00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:21,440 Speaker 1: that on that. We will get into the follow up 559 00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:24,200 Speaker 1: the investigation of politics on it that's coming up in 560 00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:25,760 Speaker 1: the next hour, and you're gonna want to hear that, 561 00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:28,560 Speaker 1: I think, so stay right here, alright, team, We've got 562 00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:36,880 Speaker 1: David in Mississippi online. David, great to have you. Hello, Hello, Um. 563 00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:39,960 Speaker 1: I wanted to call about that call to the gold 564 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:44,000 Speaker 1: Star mom by Trump. I think he was set up 565 00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:46,959 Speaker 1: on that call. I think somebody needs to ask that 566 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:50,240 Speaker 1: woman how did she get in that car? What did 567 00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:53,840 Speaker 1: they use the pre call to the mother to see 568 00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:57,360 Speaker 1: if she would accept the call? And she just put 569 00:33:57,440 --> 00:33:59,920 Speaker 1: put these people in the car with her so they 570 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:04,120 Speaker 1: could all hear him talking about it, and then they 571 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:07,760 Speaker 1: used it for their own purpose. So you think that 572 00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:12,760 Speaker 1: this was all a set up? Yes, sir, I wonder 573 00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:16,799 Speaker 1: why the congresswoman Wilson. I think it's supposed to be 574 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:21,239 Speaker 1: a or is reportedly a family friend, and so I 575 00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:23,200 Speaker 1: would I don't know. I mean, I would think she 576 00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:25,160 Speaker 1: would be a very close family friend. I mean, I 577 00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:28,600 Speaker 1: could look within my family, although I can't speak for 578 00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:33,360 Speaker 1: for the the Johnson family, but I wouldn't if I 579 00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:35,640 Speaker 1: had lost a family member in combat, I wouldn't have 580 00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:38,120 Speaker 1: a member of Congress with me that I'm aware of. 581 00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:39,920 Speaker 1: But I don't know. I don't know what procedures are here. 582 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:43,520 Speaker 1: I don't know. Well, well, General Kelly said that before 583 00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:46,920 Speaker 1: every call by the President, there's a pre call to 584 00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:50,640 Speaker 1: see if they would accept the call. Yes, and and 585 00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:55,040 Speaker 1: they need to ask the um Congresswoman did how did 586 00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:57,320 Speaker 1: she get in there? Did she know that this was 587 00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:00,399 Speaker 1: going to happen when she got inside that car? Also, 588 00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:02,479 Speaker 1: by the way, wouldn't Congressman want to let the press? 589 00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:04,879 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, listen, I don't know. Listening again 590 00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:07,840 Speaker 1: in the call for Congresswoman Wilson. To me, that just 591 00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:10,560 Speaker 1: strikes me, as this is supposed to be a moment 592 00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:13,520 Speaker 1: between the commander in chief and this gold star uh, 593 00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:16,120 Speaker 1: this gold star widow. It's not not supposed to be, 594 00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:19,680 Speaker 1: you know, for Congresswoman will Wilson to weigh in on 595 00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:21,880 Speaker 1: or I don't know. But look, I'm not there. And 596 00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:24,399 Speaker 1: you know, another part of this, David, is I feel 597 00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:26,680 Speaker 1: like we're getting dragged into this and the reality is 598 00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:29,560 Speaker 1: that there's really not a lot of there there. Rather 599 00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:32,319 Speaker 1: than I hope this, I hope this woman finds uh 600 00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:34,840 Speaker 1: some peace and healing. And look, they've raised I think, uh, 601 00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:37,319 Speaker 1: they've raised a lot of money for the family, which 602 00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:40,920 Speaker 1: is a good thing. Um. Yeah, you know, I agree. 603 00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:45,320 Speaker 1: I feel sorry for the lady, and but I I 604 00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:48,759 Speaker 1: do not like how this when it doesn't seem like 605 00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:51,560 Speaker 1: it should have happened this way. No, I definitely shouldn't 606 00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:53,200 Speaker 1: have happened this way. I mean, it's a lot of 607 00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:58,480 Speaker 1: a lot of back and forth over this, and look, 608 00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:01,080 Speaker 1: I think a lot of negative energy around this whole 609 00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:03,719 Speaker 1: discussion that shouldn't be there. I just wanted to put 610 00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:05,759 Speaker 1: in my two cents here you, sir, thank you very 611 00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:09,400 Speaker 1: much for calling in. I think that we can all 612 00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:13,600 Speaker 1: agree pretty pretty generally, and I think there's widespread agreement 613 00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:16,480 Speaker 1: on this. The gold Star families. This this should not 614 00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:20,360 Speaker 1: be an area of politicization. And yeah, I think that 615 00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:24,239 Speaker 1: the look the Democrats really did get this get this 616 00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:30,440 Speaker 1: going with ah inviting Kazier Khan to speak at the 617 00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:34,480 Speaker 1: d n C. Someone speaks at a partisan political convention, 618 00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:37,000 Speaker 1: they're going to get pushed back from the other side. 619 00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:39,680 Speaker 1: And to then say, oh, but there are a gold 620 00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:43,080 Speaker 1: Star family member. It's for the Democrats who put them 621 00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:45,799 Speaker 1: up to it. That's a little disingenuous. I mean, he's 622 00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:47,920 Speaker 1: allowed to speak, but people are allowed to respond and 623 00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:51,280 Speaker 1: not be told all you're a bad person. Jim in Ohio, 624 00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:54,839 Speaker 1: welcome sir. How are you doing? But yeah, we got 625 00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:58,520 Speaker 1: about forty seconds? Okay, Well the only there's the reason 626 00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:02,319 Speaker 1: why is by listen to a segment on a couple 627 00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:05,919 Speaker 1: of days ago that you uh j Vienna. We're doing 628 00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:10,279 Speaker 1: about the Vienna, right, And I was wondering if you 629 00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:14,160 Speaker 1: ever did it? Did one on did any research on 630 00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:17,960 Speaker 1: the Battle of Vankara between the Ottomans and the Timorad Empire. Oh, 631 00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:21,399 Speaker 1: tammer Lane, right, came in and kicked some Ottoman but yeah, 632 00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:25,560 Speaker 1: he wanted to be the next gang is con right. Well, yeah, 633 00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:26,839 Speaker 1: I know a bit about it. I mean I could 634 00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:28,760 Speaker 1: do a segment on it. Maybe I think people forget 635 00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:32,959 Speaker 1: tamer Lane or team or oh very much, so, yeah 636 00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:37,640 Speaker 1: you do, You're hardly here and anymore. But uh, I've 637 00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:39,920 Speaker 1: done a lot of research on it, and but I 638 00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:42,040 Speaker 1: don't have the full details. All right, I'll do some 639 00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:43,640 Speaker 1: research on it. You am' running into a break now, 640 00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:48,000 Speaker 1: but I'll be right back. You are now entering the 641 00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:53,440 Speaker 1: Freedom Tactical Operations Center. All sensitive programs must be ken strictly. 642 00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:57,719 Speaker 1: Need to know Team Buck is cleared and ready for 643 00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:02,920 Speaker 1: the Buck brief. The ambush of U S Special Forces 644 00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:08,960 Speaker 1: soldiers in Niger is not Trump's Benghazi. I want to 645 00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:13,200 Speaker 1: walk through what we know now, what's been reported, in 646 00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:17,319 Speaker 1: addition to what we had already been told about how 647 00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:23,279 Speaker 1: we lost for SF soldiers in Niger. But I wanted 648 00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:26,440 Speaker 1: to start with the political because this is just completely 649 00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:29,959 Speaker 1: out of control. I'm hearing all these narratives. I'm seeing 650 00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:33,560 Speaker 1: all these stories about how there's a there's a cover up, 651 00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:36,400 Speaker 1: Why didn't we know? Who didn't know? Why weren't we 652 00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:39,880 Speaker 1: made aware of this? And the answer is, if you 653 00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:45,000 Speaker 1: read the newspaper enough, or let me rephrase this, if 654 00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:47,640 Speaker 1: you were curious enough to run a Google search on this. 655 00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:51,200 Speaker 1: As a member of the Senate, as a member of 656 00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:55,200 Speaker 1: the House, you would know whatever you pretend now not 657 00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:59,120 Speaker 1: to know. It was out there for years that we 658 00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:02,160 Speaker 1: had troops in Niser, And yet you hear from Graham 659 00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:05,680 Speaker 1: and Schumer, Republican and a Democrat the following on the 660 00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:09,839 Speaker 1: Sunday Shows they were there to help allies. I didn't 661 00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:12,520 Speaker 1: know there was a thousand troops in Niger. John McCain 662 00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:15,560 Speaker 1: is right to tell the military because this is an 663 00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:19,520 Speaker 1: endless war without boundaries, no limitation on time in geography. 664 00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:22,040 Speaker 1: You gotta tell us more. And you're at center. Graham there, 665 00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:23,880 Speaker 1: he didn't know we had a thousand troops in Niger, 666 00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:28,719 Speaker 1: did you No? I did not. Why didn't you know? 667 00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:32,640 Speaker 1: It's not a secret. And in fact, there are letters 668 00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:37,040 Speaker 1: from the White House to the Senate Senate Armed Services Committee, 669 00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:40,440 Speaker 1: uh telling them exactly what's going on in ni Yar. 670 00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:43,880 Speaker 1: And then there's also the behind closed doors classified stuff 671 00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:47,360 Speaker 1: I'm sure as well. But the we have troops in 672 00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:49,279 Speaker 1: Nijer and there are hundreds of them. That is not 673 00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:53,080 Speaker 1: a secret. That has been out there front page news stories, 674 00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:58,279 Speaker 1: New York Times and others for years, four years. So 675 00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:00,839 Speaker 1: what's this, Oh, you know, we didn't know, And now 676 00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:04,560 Speaker 1: that they're putting all this pressure on the military. They've 677 00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:06,200 Speaker 1: got to tell us more about what's going on here. 678 00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:08,120 Speaker 1: They've got to tell us more of the of the facts, 679 00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:11,160 Speaker 1: as though there's some conspiracy with the military. Look, they 680 00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:14,600 Speaker 1: just lost four of four of theirs, right. U. S. 681 00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:18,200 Speaker 1: Military is looking into this. FBI knows investigating. But that's 682 00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:23,160 Speaker 1: because we had four Americans killed abroad. There's no reason 683 00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:26,719 Speaker 1: to believe at all thus far that there is a 684 00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:30,680 Speaker 1: cover up that there's anything. The only foul play here 685 00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:35,680 Speaker 1: came from the enemy who ambushed at a you know, 686 00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:38,759 Speaker 1: at a five to one advantage our soldiers in a 687 00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:43,120 Speaker 1: conflict zone. That's the foul play. These the savages of 688 00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:47,720 Speaker 1: the Islamic State, who you know, hide among civilians like cowards, 689 00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:50,160 Speaker 1: and then when no one's looking, they they come out 690 00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:53,160 Speaker 1: and they start taking shots. And then when we go 691 00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:55,440 Speaker 1: out to find them, where we send our military, the 692 00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:58,120 Speaker 1: best in the world to go track them down, they 693 00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:02,640 Speaker 1: they they hide among women and show. That's the foul play. 694 00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:06,200 Speaker 1: There's nothing on our side of this, on the U. S. Side, 695 00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:09,440 Speaker 1: that raises any flags at all based on what I 696 00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:12,800 Speaker 1: have seen. And yet you have US military at General 697 00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:15,399 Speaker 1: Dunford out there for Star trying to say, look, we're 698 00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:17,839 Speaker 1: we're getting you as much as much as we can. 699 00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:23,359 Speaker 1: Here with regard to Congress for a criticism of when 700 00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:25,920 Speaker 1: I provide enough information, in a way I've taken that 701 00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:28,840 Speaker 1: is to say, if if the Congress doesn't believe that 702 00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:31,920 Speaker 1: they're not they're getting sufficient information, then I need to 703 00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:35,600 Speaker 1: double my efforts to provide them with information, so you know, 704 00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:38,239 Speaker 1: without going through what people may have known at any 705 00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:40,960 Speaker 1: given point in time about this operation or other operation. 706 00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:42,360 Speaker 1: I mean, the one thing I can tell you is 707 00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:45,320 Speaker 1: that Secretary Madison I committed to make sure that we 708 00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:47,960 Speaker 1: satisfy the needs of the Congress for the information they 709 00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:52,200 Speaker 1: need to provide oversight. And so we were looking at marrisoning. Okay, 710 00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:56,319 Speaker 1: we thought we were doing all right. Uh, what's most 711 00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:58,800 Speaker 1: important is how the Congress feels about that, and so 712 00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:01,000 Speaker 1: we need to double our commute actions efforts and we'll 713 00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:07,040 Speaker 1: do that. Okay, fine, But Congress is playing games here 714 00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:12,359 Speaker 1: because Schumer Graham, they should know about this. They did 715 00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:14,759 Speaker 1: know about this, and if they forgot, that's on them. 716 00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:18,800 Speaker 1: And now I see right now this is a perfect example. 717 00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:21,960 Speaker 1: Here I am on on air and I can see 718 00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:26,120 Speaker 1: on the screen here at CNN US General adjust timeline 719 00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:32,480 Speaker 1: in ambush but short on answers. This is a battlefield situation. 720 00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:35,719 Speaker 1: This is when people started talking about BEng Ghazzi. I 721 00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:37,320 Speaker 1: just I want to just pull my hair out on 722 00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:39,760 Speaker 1: like what what do you how does this ben Ghazzi 723 00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:43,160 Speaker 1: was weeks, if not months, of repeated request for additional 724 00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:47,040 Speaker 1: security for a high profile civilian member of the United 725 00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:52,120 Speaker 1: States government, US diplomat, an ambassador and those around him, 726 00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:56,640 Speaker 1: and you know, contract personnel that are there to keep 727 00:42:56,680 --> 00:43:01,759 Speaker 1: them safe. But this, this is not this is not 728 00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:04,759 Speaker 1: a comparable situation. And then you at thirteen hours and 729 00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:07,600 Speaker 1: repeated requests for backup, and backup doesn't come in the 730 00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:12,480 Speaker 1: stand down order. And also you know that this is 731 00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:14,520 Speaker 1: what what do they think was going to happen? Given 732 00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:17,960 Speaker 1: the deteriorating security situation in Benghazi? All the requests for 733 00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:24,279 Speaker 1: additional UH support and security didn't come, and eventually something 734 00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:27,320 Speaker 1: that you know, we lost four of ours, including an 735 00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:34,920 Speaker 1: ambassador and some elite operators within the United States government. 736 00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:38,600 Speaker 1: So what what's well, what's the similarity here with the 737 00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:41,719 Speaker 1: Special Forces? I mean, this is yeah, whenever we lose 738 00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:44,280 Speaker 1: our troops, it is it is terrible. It is a tragedy. 739 00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:48,879 Speaker 1: We're also losing troops in Afghanistan. We are still taking 740 00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:52,520 Speaker 1: casualties in Afghanistan. There, we're tracking down the Taliban. There 741 00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:56,440 Speaker 1: were very much at war in that country, and he 742 00:43:56,520 --> 00:44:00,200 Speaker 1: shares a conflict zone. You have terrorist insurgencies, multiple as 743 00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:04,319 Speaker 1: insurgencies operating there. People who are running around saying, oh, well, 744 00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:08,480 Speaker 1: what were we doing in Niger? It's very straightforward, it's 745 00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:11,759 Speaker 1: very open. There's not a lot of what's going on here. 746 00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:14,080 Speaker 1: I mean, look, we can't and we don't know and 747 00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:17,319 Speaker 1: should not know the tactical level, what targets they're going after, 748 00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:24,040 Speaker 1: what specific assistance we're giving the Nigerian or the Chattian military. 749 00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:26,799 Speaker 1: And you know there is that aspect of us too. 750 00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:29,360 Speaker 1: There needs to be opset, there's operational security or we 751 00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:31,800 Speaker 1: we're not gonna know every detail. People say, oh, you know, 752 00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:33,560 Speaker 1: who were they going to meet and what was you know, 753 00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:36,080 Speaker 1: what was their timetable for the meeting and everything? Talking 754 00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:39,560 Speaker 1: about special forces operators in the field engaging in a 755 00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:44,120 Speaker 1: meet in a place where it's you know, rampant jihadat 756 00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:46,120 Speaker 1: groups running around. I mean it's a huge country, so 757 00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:48,120 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna It's not like they're terrorists everywhere, but 758 00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:51,760 Speaker 1: there are are a few big terrorist threats in the country. 759 00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:54,960 Speaker 1: And you won't see this report in many places. But 760 00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:57,840 Speaker 1: a q I am all kinde of the Islamic Maghreb, 761 00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:01,040 Speaker 1: which also operates in Niger, got a lot stronger and 762 00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:04,280 Speaker 1: a lot deadlier as a result of the giant weapons 763 00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:08,279 Speaker 1: bazaar that opened up in Libya after Hillary Clinton and 764 00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:11,040 Speaker 1: her top people at the State Department figured let's just 765 00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:15,319 Speaker 1: top of Kaddafi and see what happens. You'll notice, how 766 00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:17,719 Speaker 1: you know, Rachel Maddow last week can run this whole 767 00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:22,160 Speaker 1: story about how Trump's travel band might have affected chatty 768 00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:26,320 Speaker 1: and military cooperation, uh like six or seven hundred miles 769 00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:28,719 Speaker 1: away from the incident of the actual ambush, right, I mean, 770 00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:31,960 Speaker 1: it's just nonsense. I wonder over the MSNBC when they're 771 00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:33,880 Speaker 1: gonna say, oh, by the way, the terrorists in the region, 772 00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:36,640 Speaker 1: the terrorist groups in the region have a lot more 773 00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:40,120 Speaker 1: in terms of arms and munitions, for example, the kind 774 00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:43,000 Speaker 1: of things that they would use for a complex ambush. 775 00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:46,720 Speaker 1: They have a lot more of those because of decisions 776 00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:50,120 Speaker 1: made in the Obama administration, in that White House and 777 00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:53,160 Speaker 1: at the top of Foggy Bottom with Hillary Clinton running 778 00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:55,960 Speaker 1: the State Department in Libya. And this is not a theory, 779 00:45:56,040 --> 00:46:00,239 Speaker 1: that's a fact. The whole region got worse and udli 780 00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:03,200 Speaker 1: or with regard to terrorism because of the decision to 781 00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:06,680 Speaker 1: overturn or to overthrow Kadafi. And then just see what happens. 782 00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:10,040 Speaker 1: You have eight q i Am acting there, you have 783 00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:13,400 Speaker 1: the Islamic state in the in the Sahara, and you 784 00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:16,399 Speaker 1: have Boko Haram and a couple of other groups as well. 785 00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:21,320 Speaker 1: You've got all these hottest entities that are operating in 786 00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:25,360 Speaker 1: this country. They're all trying to kidnap Westerners and kill Americans. 787 00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:29,120 Speaker 1: Kidnap and kill, kidnap and kill. That is their mission set. 788 00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:31,239 Speaker 1: That's what they do. That's what the bad guys are 789 00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:34,319 Speaker 1: doing there. So that there were I think there were 790 00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:40,000 Speaker 1: four Nigerien that were killed, eight wounded soldiers, I mean 791 00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:44,160 Speaker 1: now and and then four of ours, um, four of 792 00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:48,799 Speaker 1: ours were killed in combat. It's terrible, but they were 793 00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:53,040 Speaker 1: killed in combat by an enemy that we face in Nigeria, 794 00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:58,560 Speaker 1: that we face all over Sub Saharan Africa, and an 795 00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:00,880 Speaker 1: enemy that's all over the world and in different places. 796 00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:08,520 Speaker 1: Salafi jihadism, Islamic radicalism, whatever you wanna call it, but 797 00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:12,000 Speaker 1: that's what happened these this Oh we don't have the 798 00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:14,560 Speaker 1: details yet. It is just they're trying to keep this going. 799 00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:16,760 Speaker 1: And oh, let's talk more about the gold Star Widow 800 00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:18,719 Speaker 1: by the way, and oh, let's also talk more about 801 00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:22,200 Speaker 1: how we don't have the full timeline here. Okay, Sergeant 802 00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:28,560 Speaker 1: la David Johnson was his body was found and taken 803 00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:31,279 Speaker 1: by US forces a mile from the side of the 804 00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:33,640 Speaker 1: initial ambush. He may he may have gotten separated. I mean, 805 00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:36,560 Speaker 1: we'll find out as much as we should find out, 806 00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:38,600 Speaker 1: as much as we can find out about the tactical 807 00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:41,880 Speaker 1: side of this engagement. We know that it was fifty 808 00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:46,760 Speaker 1: to sixty Islamic State of the Sahara terrorists that lined 809 00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:50,120 Speaker 1: up in an ambush against ten of our guys, twelve 810 00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:53,840 Speaker 1: of our guys, and it was an ambush situation, and 811 00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:58,840 Speaker 1: they were in as reported, uh, thin skinned vehicles. They 812 00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:03,320 Speaker 1: weren't in armored vehicles. So you know, the initial engagement 813 00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:06,640 Speaker 1: we might have lost three or four soldiers quickly. I mean, again, 814 00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:08,480 Speaker 1: we'll get into more of the timeline. I don't know. 815 00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:10,680 Speaker 1: I'm not there, and we still need some more reporting. 816 00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:13,800 Speaker 1: How quickly did the French jets get on the scene. 817 00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:16,840 Speaker 1: Initially it was thirty minutes. Now I'm hearing two hours. 818 00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:19,240 Speaker 1: But were they initially were they allowed to use bombs 819 00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:21,400 Speaker 1: right away? They said yes, then they said no, and 820 00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:24,080 Speaker 1: then they said, well, actually the problem wasn't whether they 821 00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:30,040 Speaker 1: were allowed to use bombs. The problem was the bombs 822 00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:33,359 Speaker 1: may have because there was such close contact with the enemy, 823 00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:35,200 Speaker 1: they didn't want to drop a five pound bomb and 824 00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:38,800 Speaker 1: possibly take out one or more of our guys. But 825 00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:42,279 Speaker 1: this is all fog of war. This is all the 826 00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:49,600 Speaker 1: heat of combat. This is counterinsurgency warfare that we are 827 00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:54,120 Speaker 1: talking about. This is not a burned out diplomatic post 828 00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:56,880 Speaker 1: that should have gotten a lot more security and that 829 00:48:57,080 --> 00:49:02,160 Speaker 1: was ignored despite its please for months. That's Benghazi. This 830 00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:06,840 Speaker 1: is we lose soldiers fighting against the barbarians of the 831 00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:10,400 Speaker 1: Islamic State and al Qaeda and these other groups in 832 00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:14,719 Speaker 1: lots of countries, and each one is a tragedy, and 833 00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:17,640 Speaker 1: we feel for the family of those who are lost, 834 00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:20,759 Speaker 1: and we should support those who remain behind, and we 835 00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:22,640 Speaker 1: should do everything we can to comfort them and to 836 00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:27,600 Speaker 1: and to help them. I mean I I go every 837 00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:32,439 Speaker 1: every year to a friend of Mines Cherry, the Red 838 00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:35,080 Speaker 1: Circle Foundation the whole purpose of its friend of mine 839 00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:36,600 Speaker 1: is a Navy seal. The whole purpose is to raise 840 00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:39,080 Speaker 1: money for the families of those who are special operators 841 00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:43,839 Speaker 1: who fall in combat. That's and would raise money pay 842 00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:45,520 Speaker 1: for their whatever needs to be paid for. They just 843 00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:49,160 Speaker 1: get the money we need to help those who are 844 00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:53,200 Speaker 1: left behind after somebody is killed in battle, killed in action. 845 00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:55,640 Speaker 1: But in terms of all the politics around this, and 846 00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:59,600 Speaker 1: we need more answers and we need it's the war. 847 00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:02,880 Speaker 1: We're in a war against radical Islam. We're we have 848 00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:07,879 Speaker 1: been taking many thousands of casualties four years now, since 849 00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:13,000 Speaker 1: two thousand and one, and we just lost four of 850 00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:21,520 Speaker 1: our bravest and best Americans to uh, these evil, nihilistic 851 00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:26,960 Speaker 1: want to be theocrats of the Islamic state of the Sahara. 852 00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:29,560 Speaker 1: We're not even totally sure what the group was yet, 853 00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:36,080 Speaker 1: but that's it everyone. There's nothing really to politicize here. 854 00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:39,840 Speaker 1: They stayed, they didn't leave until they had the bodies 855 00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:43,200 Speaker 1: of all those that were killed on our side. And 856 00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:46,920 Speaker 1: it was a it was a bad combat situation. Our 857 00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:49,359 Speaker 1: guys got caught up. Was there what they did? They 858 00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:52,000 Speaker 1: get a tip off from a local villager. Was it 859 00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:54,719 Speaker 1: some problem with the routes and times. I mean, that's 860 00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:56,719 Speaker 1: that's all for the military to sort out and deal 861 00:50:56,760 --> 00:50:59,800 Speaker 1: with and try to keep the next SF team in 862 00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:03,080 Speaker 1: Niger or anywhere else safe and out of this kind 863 00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:06,799 Speaker 1: of situation. But there's no such thing as deploying our 864 00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:11,759 Speaker 1: soldiers into a conflict zone that's entirely safe, whether it's 865 00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:19,200 Speaker 1: Niger or uh, you know, Iraq, Afghanistan, the Philippines. I mean, 866 00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:21,759 Speaker 1: We've got SF teams training people all over the world, 867 00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:25,319 Speaker 1: and the moment that you add into that, I mean, 868 00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:27,759 Speaker 1: and they could be targeted. I should note, I mean 869 00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:31,000 Speaker 1: we could have an SF team in Germany targeted by 870 00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:38,040 Speaker 1: some psycho Islamic states uh devotee, right, I mean these 871 00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:40,719 Speaker 1: are our military is always a target in this war. 872 00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:43,279 Speaker 1: But the moment that you're talking about a country that 873 00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:47,040 Speaker 1: is in danger of being overrun by jihadahs, I'm like Niger, 874 00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:50,360 Speaker 1: where the central government can't get the fight done itself 875 00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:54,239 Speaker 1: and needs our help and needs regional allies. Yeah, there's 876 00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:57,640 Speaker 1: danger there. There's danger there, and I just think it's 877 00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:04,040 Speaker 1: it does a dis service for politicians, including Republicans now, 878 00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:06,760 Speaker 1: to say, oh, well, you know, how could this have happened? 879 00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:11,280 Speaker 1: How could it happen. We've got small teams of special 880 00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:19,920 Speaker 1: forces going into areas where different hottest entities operate that 881 00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:22,319 Speaker 1: are trying to kill our guys, and sometimes they will 882 00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:26,440 Speaker 1: manage to do that. They are the enemy, Right, this 883 00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:30,960 Speaker 1: isn't like, this isn't the political situation that they're trying 884 00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:36,160 Speaker 1: to make it into. And it's it's very uh bothersome, 885 00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:39,120 Speaker 1: especially when you see Republicans who can't seem to sort 886 00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:40,800 Speaker 1: this one out. I mean, I expect the Democrats, for 887 00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:44,160 Speaker 1: political reasons, to just you know, we'll go back and 888 00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:47,319 Speaker 1: look at the Yemen rate very early Trump administration, which 889 00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:50,240 Speaker 1: was planned by the Obama administration. Oh, we're not getting 890 00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:52,480 Speaker 1: answers on that. Oh, we're not getting answers on that. 891 00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:58,480 Speaker 1: When you go after terrorist targets, sometimes bad things are 892 00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:00,879 Speaker 1: gonna happen. Because these are very bad people were going after. 893 00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:05,319 Speaker 1: They're making this much more complicated than it is. Tragedy. Yes, 894 00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:10,080 Speaker 1: but we're fighting these evil you know what's all over 895 00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:13,440 Speaker 1: the world. All right, we're gonna run to a break here. 896 00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:15,480 Speaker 1: I'll be right back. So I wanted to talk to 897 00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:19,240 Speaker 1: you about about taxes today because I don't like taxes. 898 00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:21,719 Speaker 1: I don't like paying them. I don't like do the move. 899 00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:24,920 Speaker 1: I'm I'm anti tax and I'm not afraid to say 900 00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:27,200 Speaker 1: it here on the buck Sexton Show. I don't like 901 00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:29,480 Speaker 1: giving the government money. I'm on one of those now 902 00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:32,560 Speaker 1: tie no Amy there with me, no nomonise. People are like, 903 00:53:32,600 --> 00:53:34,600 Speaker 1: all I wish I could give, I wish I could 904 00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:36,560 Speaker 1: give more in taxes. By the way, anyone who says 905 00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:40,319 Speaker 1: that off my Christmas list, I just never that's completely unacceptable. 906 00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:43,279 Speaker 1: You want to give more, give more? You know what 907 00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:45,440 Speaker 1: I mean. There's literally a place to do it. So 908 00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:47,319 Speaker 1: people that do this whole thing of oh I wish 909 00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:49,920 Speaker 1: I could pay more in taxes. Yeah, I'm sure you do, buddy, 910 00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:51,920 Speaker 1: go for it. Let's see you do it. But then 911 00:53:52,040 --> 00:53:53,400 Speaker 1: when you push them on this, I'll say, well, it's 912 00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:57,880 Speaker 1: not about It's not about me paying more in taxes. 913 00:53:57,960 --> 00:54:00,640 Speaker 1: It's about everybody paying more. I think, liciad, I'll just 914 00:54:00,719 --> 00:54:02,840 Speaker 1: chip in more. We should just pay a fair share. 915 00:54:04,239 --> 00:54:09,640 Speaker 1: Make it fair, just pay the fair share. Uh, I'm 916 00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:12,399 Speaker 1: seeing now that there's I don't know, it's it's tough 917 00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:15,840 Speaker 1: to analyze when over the weekend four oh one K 918 00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:19,520 Speaker 1: limits may be changed, which is a terrible idea. I 919 00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:23,680 Speaker 1: think you want to encourage Americans just even apart from 920 00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:27,360 Speaker 1: the actual nuts and bolts, numbers and economics of it, 921 00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:35,000 Speaker 1: you want to um encourage Americans to save and to 922 00:54:35,120 --> 00:54:38,400 Speaker 1: plan for their own retirement as much as possible. Right, 923 00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:41,000 Speaker 1: this is, this is very important. If the tax code 924 00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:43,120 Speaker 1: is not going to be a flat tax, don't start saying, oh, 925 00:54:43,239 --> 00:54:45,440 Speaker 1: four oh one k. You know we're gonna get rid 926 00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:50,200 Speaker 1: of that. Okay, So there's that. There is that, and 927 00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:55,440 Speaker 1: then uh, they said that they're gonna the Trump said 928 00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:56,920 Speaker 1: that's not gonna happen. By the way, Trump said that 929 00:54:56,920 --> 00:54:59,640 Speaker 1: it's gonna be fine, that there won't be any changes 930 00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:02,520 Speaker 1: for it. So okay, I guess that's where we are now. 931 00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:05,040 Speaker 1: This is it's a moving target we're talking about here. 932 00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:08,880 Speaker 1: But then on the rates for millionaires, this is a 933 00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:11,440 Speaker 1: little a little popular. See we're doing a quick a 934 00:55:11,520 --> 00:55:13,920 Speaker 1: quick segment here on on taxes because I don't you know, 935 00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:16,840 Speaker 1: we don't even know how how how upset or or 936 00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:19,920 Speaker 1: happy can I be about what the tax changes are 937 00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:22,400 Speaker 1: supposed to be. It's not really tax reform, by the way, 938 00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:24,480 Speaker 1: it's tax cuts when we don't even know what the 939 00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:27,759 Speaker 1: numbers are, right, they haven't even put forward all bill 940 00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:33,319 Speaker 1: yet that is supposed to be our ore are starting point. Really, 941 00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:36,520 Speaker 1: I mean, we've seen some stuff. But but if they 942 00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:38,959 Speaker 1: raise rates for people that are actually over a million 943 00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:41,400 Speaker 1: dollars there, see, this is something that especially when you're 944 00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:45,000 Speaker 1: dealing with some coastal elites, they're like, good gosh, making 945 00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:49,040 Speaker 1: three dollars years nothing like making a million. They raise 946 00:55:49,120 --> 00:55:51,120 Speaker 1: rates on people making over a million, A lot of 947 00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:53,120 Speaker 1: people are gonna be like, yeah, I think they could 948 00:55:53,120 --> 00:55:56,520 Speaker 1: pay a little more. I think that that's because once 949 00:55:56,600 --> 00:55:59,640 Speaker 1: you start slicing it thin enough, you know that because 950 00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:01,160 Speaker 1: you think of this a lot of I know it 951 00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:02,839 Speaker 1: depends on where you're in the country, right, But if 952 00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:06,680 Speaker 1: you are a if you are a state trooper in 953 00:56:06,719 --> 00:56:08,880 Speaker 1: a lot of states, I can say on the Eastern seaboard, 954 00:56:09,560 --> 00:56:12,279 Speaker 1: and you know you work, and let's say your husband 955 00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:15,239 Speaker 1: or your wife is a school teacher. You're bringing home 956 00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:17,960 Speaker 1: a hundred and twenty a hundred and fifty k with 957 00:56:18,080 --> 00:56:20,040 Speaker 1: over time for the state trooper. I know because he's 958 00:56:20,120 --> 00:56:22,080 Speaker 1: working in the NYPD. I know what these guys make, right. 959 00:56:22,080 --> 00:56:23,840 Speaker 1: I know that's not state trooper, But the same idea 960 00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:26,880 Speaker 1: are are you if you with with two incomes, are 961 00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:29,160 Speaker 1: are you wealthy? Do you have more together for the government. 962 00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:34,440 Speaker 1: If you're making a hundred k, you're are wealthy, so 963 00:56:34,560 --> 00:56:38,680 Speaker 1: that's crazy, right, But if you're making over a million, 964 00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:42,840 Speaker 1: do we think that anyone's gonna be too upset over No? 965 00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:45,520 Speaker 1: I don't think so. I think that I think that 966 00:56:45,600 --> 00:56:49,400 Speaker 1: that Actually I think Trump's populist bend may may be 967 00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:52,480 Speaker 1: unveiled with a thirty nine percent tax rate on millionaires 968 00:56:52,600 --> 00:56:55,799 Speaker 1: that stays, but it's actually for millionaires, not people making 969 00:56:55,840 --> 00:56:58,640 Speaker 1: two k or a hundred fifty. Talk a little bit 970 00:56:58,680 --> 00:57:03,000 Speaker 1: about the intro GOP beaud here for just a few moments, 971 00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:07,680 Speaker 1: because I think this is what yeah, absent any major 972 00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:10,759 Speaker 1: legislative achievement, which do not hold your breath for that. 973 00:57:11,280 --> 00:57:14,120 Speaker 1: This year, I think you're going to see a lot 974 00:57:14,360 --> 00:57:20,280 Speaker 1: of Republican on Republican fighting. That's what's gonna happen here. 975 00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:24,880 Speaker 1: And Trump has said that he thinks that this is 976 00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:29,280 Speaker 1: that that that his getting involved in this, that throwing 977 00:57:29,320 --> 00:57:33,200 Speaker 1: his weight around and calling out Republicans who weren't doing 978 00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:34,560 Speaker 1: what he wants them to do is a good thing. 979 00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:38,320 Speaker 1: Do you worry that this bickering and feuding gets in 980 00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:41,400 Speaker 1: the way of your agenda. No, and sometimes it helps 981 00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:43,040 Speaker 1: to be honest with you. And so we'll see what 982 00:57:43,120 --> 00:57:45,640 Speaker 1: happens in the end. But I think actually sometimes it helps. 983 00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:48,840 Speaker 1: Sometimes it gets people to do what they're supposed to 984 00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:52,120 Speaker 1: be doing. And you know, that's the way it is. 985 00:57:52,200 --> 00:57:54,200 Speaker 1: I just want what's right, and I think for the 986 00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:57,040 Speaker 1: most part they want once right too. So we'll see 987 00:57:57,080 --> 00:57:58,959 Speaker 1: what happens. But I do believe we have the votes 988 00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:01,760 Speaker 1: for healthcare at the opiod time, and I think that 989 00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:04,160 Speaker 1: we're going to have the votes for Texas. And I 990 00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:07,280 Speaker 1: will say the fact that healthcare is so difficult I 991 00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:10,520 Speaker 1: think makes the Texas easier. The Republicans want to get 992 00:58:10,560 --> 00:58:15,880 Speaker 1: it done. So there's Trump's version of the intro GOP feuding, 993 00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:17,680 Speaker 1: and he says that that's a good thing that he 994 00:58:17,720 --> 00:58:20,720 Speaker 1: calls him out. He says that it makes sense that 995 00:58:20,840 --> 00:58:24,520 Speaker 1: it's though it's helpful to this whole process. But there's 996 00:58:24,560 --> 00:58:28,040 Speaker 1: one feud that I think steps outside of that. I 997 00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:34,320 Speaker 1: don't think that the McConnell Bannon inside the GOP intramural 998 00:58:35,040 --> 00:58:38,920 Speaker 1: political warfare that's going on is about getting better policies, 999 00:58:40,040 --> 00:58:44,040 Speaker 1: or at least it's not about getting agreement on legislation 1000 00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:51,000 Speaker 1: that there's something else. There's something else going on here, um, 1001 00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:54,400 Speaker 1: and I wanted to get into that. You have. First 1002 00:58:54,400 --> 00:58:57,720 Speaker 1: of all, Bannon was at the Value Voters Summit talking 1003 00:58:57,760 --> 00:59:00,800 Speaker 1: about McConnell, specifically, Steve Bannon former he's seen your advice 1004 00:59:00,880 --> 00:59:03,720 Speaker 1: with the president. Now we'll still kind of senior vice 1005 00:59:03,760 --> 00:59:07,440 Speaker 1: at the president, just an unofficial one. He's outside of government, 1006 00:59:07,480 --> 00:59:10,080 Speaker 1: but from what I've read, still speaks to the President 1007 00:59:10,120 --> 00:59:14,640 Speaker 1: a few times a week. Here is what Bannon. Here 1008 00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:19,040 Speaker 1: is what Bannon had to say about McConnell. Now, Mitch, 1009 00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:20,960 Speaker 1: I don't know if you're watching to day. I don't 1010 00:59:20,960 --> 00:59:22,760 Speaker 1: know if you're watching. I've been getting calls. It's it's 1011 00:59:22,800 --> 00:59:26,320 Speaker 1: like before the Eyes of March, right. The only question 1012 00:59:26,440 --> 00:59:28,840 Speaker 1: is and this is just an analogy or metaphor whatever 1013 00:59:28,840 --> 00:59:31,280 Speaker 1: you wanna call it. They're just looking to find out 1014 00:59:31,720 --> 00:59:38,280 Speaker 1: who's gonna be brutus to your Julius Caesar. Now, h A, 1015 00:59:40,920 --> 00:59:44,959 Speaker 1: I'm not You'm not sure I'd go with the terminology 1016 00:59:45,080 --> 00:59:47,800 Speaker 1: here that Bannon is isn't you know at this at 1017 00:59:47,840 --> 00:59:49,520 Speaker 1: this point in time, I think we could stay away 1018 00:59:49,600 --> 00:59:52,400 Speaker 1: from I know it's a huge historical and and and 1019 00:59:52,480 --> 00:59:56,400 Speaker 1: actually literary reference as well. But I'm just you need 1020 00:59:56,480 --> 00:59:59,720 Speaker 1: to stay away from the violence and politics stuff. I 1021 00:59:59,760 --> 01:00:01,720 Speaker 1: think just as a general, I'm not saying it's a 1022 01:00:01,800 --> 01:00:03,640 Speaker 1: huge deal, but I wouldn't have I wouldn't have done 1023 01:00:03,680 --> 01:00:07,040 Speaker 1: that personally. McConnell for his part, though, I was like her, 1024 01:00:07,160 --> 01:00:13,240 Speaker 1: are not? You know, here's McConnell how to say. Let's 1025 01:00:13,280 --> 01:00:16,680 Speaker 1: talk about former Trump advisor Steve Bannet. He declared war 1026 01:00:16,800 --> 01:00:19,919 Speaker 1: on you and the rest of the Republican establishment this week. 1027 01:00:20,320 --> 01:00:23,600 Speaker 1: What do you make of Bannon recruiting candidates with the 1028 01:00:23,680 --> 01:00:28,480 Speaker 1: explicit goals of taking you out as leader? Well, you 1029 01:00:28,520 --> 01:00:30,280 Speaker 1: know this element has been out there for a while. 1030 01:00:30,360 --> 01:00:35,880 Speaker 1: They cost us five Senate seats in by nominating people 1031 01:00:35,920 --> 01:00:38,960 Speaker 1: who couldn't win in November. In order for the President's 1032 01:00:38,960 --> 01:00:42,000 Speaker 1: agenda to advance, we have to be able to elect 1033 01:00:42,080 --> 01:00:45,680 Speaker 1: people who support the agenda, and so these inner parties 1034 01:00:45,720 --> 01:00:48,640 Speaker 1: skirmishes are all about whether or not we can nominate 1035 01:00:49,240 --> 01:00:54,040 Speaker 1: a candidates who can win in November. M hmm. That's 1036 01:00:54,400 --> 01:00:57,520 Speaker 1: that's one. That's one way to go on this. But 1037 01:00:57,680 --> 01:01:03,760 Speaker 1: what about the republic who already hold office, who clearly 1038 01:01:04,560 --> 01:01:07,520 Speaker 1: lied to their constituencies when it came to the repeal 1039 01:01:07,560 --> 01:01:12,040 Speaker 1: of Obamacare. For example, John McCain ran on repealing Obamacare. 1040 01:01:12,760 --> 01:01:16,520 Speaker 1: John McCain has made sure that Obamacare will remain unchanged. 1041 01:01:17,560 --> 01:01:25,240 Speaker 1: So what about them? What do we do about those 1042 01:01:25,320 --> 01:01:29,560 Speaker 1: Republicans who are not in fact willing to keep their 1043 01:01:29,600 --> 01:01:33,520 Speaker 1: promises to their constituents. It just seems to me is 1044 01:01:33,840 --> 01:01:37,960 Speaker 1: like this is where we're putting an unwinnable situation here. 1045 01:01:39,040 --> 01:01:42,040 Speaker 1: McConnell is on the one hand saying or character order 1046 01:01:42,120 --> 01:01:44,840 Speaker 1: or characters from carent we're in the ruction room. You know, 1047 01:01:44,960 --> 01:01:49,520 Speaker 1: he's saying that they need to keep some establishment will 1048 01:01:49,640 --> 01:01:53,320 Speaker 1: mostly establishment folks, in office, but nothing happens legislatively, and 1049 01:01:53,400 --> 01:01:55,800 Speaker 1: he says that Trump won't get anything legislatively without us. 1050 01:01:56,480 --> 01:01:57,920 Speaker 1: And on the other hand, you've got the bann In 1051 01:01:58,040 --> 01:01:59,600 Speaker 1: saying that we need just all out war in the 1052 01:01:59,680 --> 01:02:03,320 Speaker 1: GOP establishment. The problem with Bannon's approach as I see it, 1053 01:02:03,560 --> 01:02:05,560 Speaker 1: and I could be wrong. Everyone's been wrong in politics 1054 01:02:05,600 --> 01:02:08,080 Speaker 1: the last couple of years, so hey, I should jump 1055 01:02:08,120 --> 01:02:10,800 Speaker 1: in right the water is warm. Problem with the Bannons 1056 01:02:10,920 --> 01:02:15,280 Speaker 1: abandon approach is that if he's not right, and if 1057 01:02:15,320 --> 01:02:19,760 Speaker 1: in fact we do lose some winnable seats, and if 1058 01:02:19,800 --> 01:02:23,040 Speaker 1: the Republican Party finds itself out of power because of 1059 01:02:23,120 --> 01:02:28,960 Speaker 1: the intra party feuting, then he will have empowered the Democrats, 1060 01:02:29,040 --> 01:02:32,840 Speaker 1: and you will have a Republican Party that will be 1061 01:02:33,280 --> 01:02:36,720 Speaker 1: left with no accomplishments. To point you really, because everything 1062 01:02:36,760 --> 01:02:39,320 Speaker 1: that Trump will have, with the exception of judicial allominations, 1063 01:02:39,320 --> 01:02:42,800 Speaker 1: everything Trump will have accomplished an office. If the Democrats 1064 01:02:43,000 --> 01:02:47,440 Speaker 1: come in, guess what, They're just gonna sit there and 1065 01:02:47,560 --> 01:02:50,880 Speaker 1: wait and assume that they can win the next presidential election, 1066 01:02:50,960 --> 01:02:54,840 Speaker 1: and they'll undo all the regulatory reform. Everything that Trump 1067 01:02:54,880 --> 01:02:58,280 Speaker 1: has done so far is very undoable, except for Gorsitch 1068 01:02:58,360 --> 01:03:01,080 Speaker 1: and some of the federal judicial nations. But keep in 1069 01:03:01,120 --> 01:03:03,440 Speaker 1: mind Obama has already stacked the federal courts with left 1070 01:03:03,480 --> 01:03:08,200 Speaker 1: wing appointees. So at best you're just trying to undo, uh, 1071 01:03:08,680 --> 01:03:13,600 Speaker 1: some of that damage. At best you're trying to balance 1072 01:03:13,680 --> 01:03:17,160 Speaker 1: it out. But it's by no means a situation Republicans 1073 01:03:17,200 --> 01:03:19,200 Speaker 1: could look at the federal judiciary and say, oh, we're 1074 01:03:19,240 --> 01:03:23,880 Speaker 1: in great shape. There. Something's got to give here. Republicans 1075 01:03:23,920 --> 01:03:28,880 Speaker 1: either need to get something done in the Congress or 1076 01:03:29,440 --> 01:03:31,320 Speaker 1: there has to be a throw the bums out movement 1077 01:03:31,440 --> 01:03:34,000 Speaker 1: and we'll see where the chips fall at that point. 1078 01:03:34,080 --> 01:03:36,720 Speaker 1: But that's not now you're talking about leaping off the 1079 01:03:37,080 --> 01:03:40,240 Speaker 1: the edge into the political abyss a little bit. I'm 1080 01:03:40,240 --> 01:03:42,760 Speaker 1: not only sure what that looks like. I don't know 1081 01:03:42,880 --> 01:03:46,320 Speaker 1: if there's enough support for Trump. Isn't with within the 1082 01:03:46,360 --> 01:03:50,200 Speaker 1: Republican Party to take that leap of faith? Right? Me 1083 01:03:50,360 --> 01:03:55,280 Speaker 1: over Hillary? You know, Trump over Hillary? Rather? Uh? Yeah, sure, 1084 01:03:55,800 --> 01:03:59,520 Speaker 1: I could see that Trump over Hillary is a um 1085 01:04:00,520 --> 01:04:05,240 Speaker 1: easy for most Republicans, that's an easy call. But all 1086 01:04:05,360 --> 01:04:10,200 Speaker 1: these candidates have bandoned may put up against Republicans who 1087 01:04:10,280 --> 01:04:13,080 Speaker 1: have one you know, is he gonna primary people? Is 1088 01:04:13,120 --> 01:04:15,560 Speaker 1: he gonna try to primary Mitch McConnelly? The answer is yes, 1089 01:04:16,440 --> 01:04:18,760 Speaker 1: and the answers yeah, Ty is giving a big yes. 1090 01:04:18,880 --> 01:04:20,760 Speaker 1: I mean, that's what he's saying he's gonna do. Right. 1091 01:04:21,960 --> 01:04:25,440 Speaker 1: What happens then, because then the then the storyline becomes 1092 01:04:25,600 --> 01:04:27,760 Speaker 1: if they lose some if they lose control of the 1093 01:04:27,800 --> 01:04:29,600 Speaker 1: House and this and the Senate to the Democrats. Just 1094 01:04:29,680 --> 01:04:31,720 Speaker 1: keep in mind, then the ben and Knits are gonna 1095 01:04:31,720 --> 01:04:34,840 Speaker 1: be saying, well, you know it's because of the establishment 1096 01:04:34,880 --> 01:04:37,480 Speaker 1: that we got nothing done. Well, you can start to 1097 01:04:37,520 --> 01:04:39,520 Speaker 1: see how at some point we realize that we never 1098 01:04:39,600 --> 01:04:41,680 Speaker 1: get anything done and there's always somebody else to blame 1099 01:04:41,720 --> 01:04:44,160 Speaker 1: for it, and that's a problem. So we gotta keep 1100 01:04:44,160 --> 01:04:45,840 Speaker 1: our eye on this one. I'm not really sure how 1101 01:04:45,880 --> 01:04:48,479 Speaker 1: that's gonna shake out yet. Sean Davis of the federal 1102 01:04:48,560 --> 01:04:49,760 Speaker 1: is gonna hang out us in a minute and in 1103 01:04:49,840 --> 01:04:52,080 Speaker 1: the next hour after this, we've got a lot more 1104 01:04:52,120 --> 01:04:55,160 Speaker 1: to talk about, including bullying and a big anti bullying 1105 01:04:55,200 --> 01:04:57,280 Speaker 1: at Stay with me if you are back, all right, 1106 01:04:57,320 --> 01:05:00,280 Speaker 1: it's time for some truth bombs courtesy of our friend 1107 01:05:00,400 --> 01:05:03,560 Speaker 1: Sean Davis at The Federalist. He is the co founder 1108 01:05:03,720 --> 01:05:06,400 Speaker 1: over there. Check out the Federalist dot com among my 1109 01:05:06,760 --> 01:05:10,520 Speaker 1: favorite sites of opinion, Mr Davis, Great to have you back, sir, 1110 01:05:11,400 --> 01:05:12,960 Speaker 1: great to be here. Thank you for having me. We 1111 01:05:13,040 --> 01:05:16,560 Speaker 1: have a new p s A courtesy of c n 1112 01:05:16,880 --> 01:05:20,640 Speaker 1: N wanting to establish that they are big time, big 1113 01:05:20,800 --> 01:05:23,240 Speaker 1: j journalists who are all about the facts and just 1114 01:05:23,400 --> 01:05:26,880 Speaker 1: the facts. Place or play it. This is an apple. 1115 01:05:27,960 --> 01:05:30,480 Speaker 1: Some people might try to tell you that it's a banana. 1116 01:05:31,680 --> 01:05:35,240 Speaker 1: They might scream banana, banana, banana, over and over and 1117 01:05:35,400 --> 01:05:40,840 Speaker 1: over again. They might put banana in all caps. You 1118 01:05:40,960 --> 01:05:43,320 Speaker 1: might even start to believe that this is a banana, 1119 01:05:45,240 --> 01:05:50,760 Speaker 1: but it's not this is an apple. Well, there you go, 1120 01:05:51,040 --> 01:05:54,560 Speaker 1: CNN making some strides here in the facts and truth department. 1121 01:05:54,920 --> 01:05:57,400 Speaker 1: Although I think that a committed leftis sham would argue 1122 01:05:57,440 --> 01:05:59,880 Speaker 1: that whether one is, whether whether something is a banana 1123 01:06:00,040 --> 01:06:03,040 Speaker 1: or an apple, is really a social construct. But nonetheless, 1124 01:06:03,560 --> 01:06:05,360 Speaker 1: I think that their whole we just go with just 1125 01:06:05,520 --> 01:06:08,560 Speaker 1: the facts thing doesn't really stand up to much inquiry. 1126 01:06:09,840 --> 01:06:12,240 Speaker 1: Oh no, I I found the whole thing hilarious, and 1127 01:06:12,280 --> 01:06:14,400 Speaker 1: I actually had a double check that that wasn't a 1128 01:06:14,520 --> 01:06:18,640 Speaker 1: parody video made by someone who hates CNN, because it 1129 01:06:18,760 --> 01:06:21,120 Speaker 1: was so ridiculous. I mean, this is a network who 1130 01:06:21,240 --> 01:06:24,520 Speaker 1: had on its show, a show that's called Reliable Sources. 1131 01:06:25,040 --> 01:06:29,160 Speaker 1: It had as a featured guest Dan Rather. Now, once 1132 01:06:29,200 --> 01:06:32,400 Speaker 1: you've had Dan Rather is a reliable source on your 1133 01:06:32,520 --> 01:06:35,440 Speaker 1: on your show Reliable Sources, maybe you don't get to 1134 01:06:35,480 --> 01:06:37,240 Speaker 1: go out there and beat your chest about how good 1135 01:06:37,320 --> 01:06:39,960 Speaker 1: you are telling the difference between apple and fitting. I 1136 01:06:40,000 --> 01:06:42,920 Speaker 1: think it does tell us something about who still runs 1137 01:06:43,040 --> 01:06:47,840 Speaker 1: the mainstream media, though, because Dan Rather should be somebody 1138 01:06:47,920 --> 01:06:50,480 Speaker 1: that has never asked his opinion on journalism ever, you 1139 01:06:50,520 --> 01:06:53,200 Speaker 1: would think, but the people that made Dan rather the 1140 01:06:53,240 --> 01:06:54,960 Speaker 1: people that built him up. Some of them are still 1141 01:06:55,000 --> 01:06:58,160 Speaker 1: in very senior positions in very powerful places in media. 1142 01:06:58,480 --> 01:07:00,919 Speaker 1: And that's why Dan rather gets a has and people 1143 01:07:00,960 --> 01:07:04,160 Speaker 1: at SENN that make stuff up get a past two right. Well, 1144 01:07:04,160 --> 01:07:06,440 Speaker 1: I mean it's it's fascinting. This is the same network 1145 01:07:07,080 --> 01:07:10,520 Speaker 1: that under fire for pushing a whole bunch of take stories, 1146 01:07:10,840 --> 01:07:14,960 Speaker 1: had to fire three people, um for a completely false 1147 01:07:15,040 --> 01:07:19,080 Speaker 1: story on Russia and Trump collusion. This is a network 1148 01:07:19,160 --> 01:07:22,760 Speaker 1: to regularly get the gun facts wrong. Uh, it's just 1149 01:07:23,160 --> 01:07:27,560 Speaker 1: it's strange credulity. And I just got the best laugh 1150 01:07:27,600 --> 01:07:29,360 Speaker 1: out of it today. So I would like I'd like 1151 01:07:29,440 --> 01:07:31,480 Speaker 1: to thank seeing in for that. Like, I can't trust 1152 01:07:31,560 --> 01:07:33,520 Speaker 1: them to give me hard news, but I can't trust 1153 01:07:33,560 --> 01:07:36,040 Speaker 1: them to crack me up every now again speaking to 1154 01:07:36,080 --> 01:07:38,360 Speaker 1: Sean Davis, co founder of the Federalists here and and 1155 01:07:38,400 --> 01:07:41,560 Speaker 1: so speaking about getting the facts straight. And I've been 1156 01:07:41,600 --> 01:07:43,480 Speaker 1: talking about this over the course of the show, but 1157 01:07:43,560 --> 01:07:46,480 Speaker 1: I wanted your take on this this whole Oh, the 1158 01:07:46,560 --> 01:07:49,160 Speaker 1: Senate now wants to do all this oversight over the 1159 01:07:49,600 --> 01:07:53,800 Speaker 1: Niger counter terrorism mission that US Special Forces has. This 1160 01:07:54,040 --> 01:07:57,120 Speaker 1: is not that this mission is not a new mission. 1161 01:07:57,520 --> 01:08:00,440 Speaker 1: It is not a hard to particularly hard to describe admission. 1162 01:08:00,840 --> 01:08:04,160 Speaker 1: It's actually, as these things go, been been pretty transparent 1163 01:08:04,360 --> 01:08:06,280 Speaker 1: with within the realm of what we should know versus 1164 01:08:06,360 --> 01:08:08,760 Speaker 1: some things we probably shouldn't know. But now all of 1165 01:08:08,760 --> 01:08:11,240 Speaker 1: a sudden, it's like there's this rogue elephant running around 1166 01:08:11,600 --> 01:08:13,320 Speaker 1: and they need to get a handle on U S 1167 01:08:13,360 --> 01:08:16,400 Speaker 1: Special Forces in Sub Saharan Africa, and it's like, no, 1168 01:08:16,600 --> 01:08:19,040 Speaker 1: that's actually not what's going on here. This is just 1169 01:08:19,439 --> 01:08:21,439 Speaker 1: a bad thing that happened in a country where we're 1170 01:08:21,439 --> 01:08:25,639 Speaker 1: fighting against terrorists. Right. Well, so this goes back more 1171 01:08:25,680 --> 01:08:28,599 Speaker 1: than four years. I think Obama first disclosed to Congress 1172 01:08:28,680 --> 01:08:32,040 Speaker 1: in that we had a hundred troops over there, and 1173 01:08:32,280 --> 01:08:36,280 Speaker 1: in the state of purpose was that UM troops in 1174 01:08:36,320 --> 01:08:41,040 Speaker 1: the in the Lake Chad Basin region between um Nigeria 1175 01:08:41,040 --> 01:08:44,960 Speaker 1: and Nigeria, that Boko haram and Isis are big there, 1176 01:08:45,040 --> 01:08:47,640 Speaker 1: and so the local forces needed help getting trained up, 1177 01:08:47,760 --> 01:08:50,439 Speaker 1: figuring out how to deal with the terrorists elements there. 1178 01:08:50,479 --> 01:08:52,760 Speaker 1: So we've sent people, and we've slowly sent, you know, 1179 01:08:53,280 --> 01:08:56,880 Speaker 1: fifty more to the point that we started with a hundred, 1180 01:08:56,880 --> 01:09:00,479 Speaker 1: and as of June, I think we had according to 1181 01:09:00,560 --> 01:09:02,880 Speaker 1: a letter that Trump sent to the Speaker of the 1182 01:09:02,920 --> 01:09:05,519 Speaker 1: House and the Senate President pro tend we had six 1183 01:09:05,640 --> 01:09:10,120 Speaker 1: hundred and forty five troops in Niger. I think we 1184 01:09:10,200 --> 01:09:13,519 Speaker 1: had three hundred in Cameroon, and what they're trying to 1185 01:09:13,600 --> 01:09:16,800 Speaker 1: do is deal with the terrorists elements there. This is 1186 01:09:16,920 --> 01:09:19,479 Speaker 1: not new. There have been hearings on this every year 1187 01:09:19,560 --> 01:09:25,200 Speaker 1: from Africa, from senior Defense Department officials. Everybody in Congress 1188 01:09:25,240 --> 01:09:28,040 Speaker 1: has gotten information about this. So this new game they're 1189 01:09:28,040 --> 01:09:30,200 Speaker 1: playing where they pretend they were less in the dark, 1190 01:09:30,920 --> 01:09:33,080 Speaker 1: I played shameful. Note. These are just a bunch of 1191 01:09:33,120 --> 01:09:35,960 Speaker 1: people who actually weren't interested and didn't care about it 1192 01:09:36,000 --> 01:09:38,719 Speaker 1: at all because it wasn't big and sexy like Syria 1193 01:09:39,080 --> 01:09:42,720 Speaker 1: or Iran or Russia. So now they're just pretending they 1194 01:09:42,760 --> 01:09:45,800 Speaker 1: were never told, even though the facts they otherwise Sean, 1195 01:09:46,160 --> 01:09:49,080 Speaker 1: Where do you think we are right now? With getting 1196 01:09:49,240 --> 01:09:54,320 Speaker 1: past the whole debate over the gold Star widow and 1197 01:09:54,479 --> 01:09:56,760 Speaker 1: Trump and all this, do you think we can move on? 1198 01:09:56,880 --> 01:10:00,160 Speaker 1: I mean, Trump should probably move on from this. We're 1199 01:10:00,160 --> 01:10:02,200 Speaker 1: a whole bunch of reasons. But I feel like the 1200 01:10:02,280 --> 01:10:04,160 Speaker 1: media will find a way to keep this going as 1201 01:10:04,200 --> 01:10:07,639 Speaker 1: long as possible. Well, of course they will, but I'll 1202 01:10:07,680 --> 01:10:10,560 Speaker 1: say you know what, after an eight year hiatus of 1203 01:10:10,800 --> 01:10:16,160 Speaker 1: talking about the cost of UH foreign military adventurism, I'm 1204 01:10:16,240 --> 01:10:19,040 Speaker 1: glad we're actually having a discussion now about what it 1205 01:10:19,160 --> 01:10:22,400 Speaker 1: costs when we send people to far flung regions UH 1206 01:10:22,479 --> 01:10:25,599 Speaker 1: to fight terrorists or to fight other nations battles. Because 1207 01:10:25,680 --> 01:10:29,320 Speaker 1: for eight years, from oh nine to very very early 1208 01:10:29,360 --> 01:10:33,240 Speaker 1: twenty seventeen, we were getting daily updates on desk tolls. 1209 01:10:33,600 --> 01:10:36,680 Speaker 1: We weren't hearing about the pain and loss suffered by 1210 01:10:36,720 --> 01:10:40,320 Speaker 1: GoldStar families. Cndy Sheen went from being a celebrity to 1211 01:10:40,400 --> 01:10:42,639 Speaker 1: being a nobody overnight. This is a Barack Obama camp 1212 01:10:42,680 --> 01:10:45,320 Speaker 1: became president so well. I think the media is just 1213 01:10:45,400 --> 01:10:48,360 Speaker 1: absolutely absurd and how they handled this stuff. I'm glad 1214 01:10:48,400 --> 01:10:51,840 Speaker 1: that they've rediscovered that war has a cost, it has 1215 01:10:51,880 --> 01:10:53,800 Speaker 1: a human cost, and it's something we should all be 1216 01:10:53,880 --> 01:10:55,960 Speaker 1: talking about. We just shouldn't be doing it in these 1217 01:10:56,040 --> 01:10:58,439 Speaker 1: blatant political terms like the media are trying to do. 1218 01:10:58,640 --> 01:11:01,000 Speaker 1: And I should remind everybody that this isn't the first 1219 01:11:01,080 --> 01:11:06,280 Speaker 1: time that a US military operation has has gone bad 1220 01:11:06,320 --> 01:11:09,920 Speaker 1: in the sense that we have lost a soldier or soldiers. 1221 01:11:10,240 --> 01:11:14,040 Speaker 1: And this immediately was politicized as like Trump's Trump's Benghazi 1222 01:11:14,200 --> 01:11:16,160 Speaker 1: or you know Trump has done something terrible here, or 1223 01:11:16,200 --> 01:11:19,240 Speaker 1: the administrations to sleep at the wheel when you had 1224 01:11:19,720 --> 01:11:23,320 Speaker 1: I believe it was a Navy seal um back in 1225 01:11:23,479 --> 01:11:26,040 Speaker 1: what was this back in February that there was a 1226 01:11:26,160 --> 01:11:28,040 Speaker 1: raid in Yemen? Do you remember this, Sean? It was 1227 01:11:28,080 --> 01:11:31,559 Speaker 1: against al Qaeda's branching Yemen, And like the New York 1228 01:11:31,600 --> 01:11:33,760 Speaker 1: Times report of this as risky from the start and 1229 01:11:33,880 --> 01:11:36,799 Speaker 1: costly in the end. And there was all this outcry 1230 01:11:36,920 --> 01:11:40,519 Speaker 1: or why would we why would US special operations be 1231 01:11:40,720 --> 01:11:44,960 Speaker 1: involved in Yemen? And well, because we're trying to kill 1232 01:11:45,000 --> 01:11:48,680 Speaker 1: al Qaida terrorists, right and what and they tried doing 1233 01:11:48,720 --> 01:11:50,639 Speaker 1: the same thing then, I mean, that was an operation 1234 01:11:50,920 --> 01:11:55,040 Speaker 1: that had been I believe identified by the previous administration, 1235 01:11:55,200 --> 01:11:57,840 Speaker 1: planned by it UH, and the plans were still on 1236 01:11:57,920 --> 01:12:01,520 Speaker 1: the table when Trump came in. UH, the thing went sideways, 1237 01:12:02,080 --> 01:12:04,800 Speaker 1: and suddenly that was Trump's fault. They tried to ben 1238 01:12:04,840 --> 01:12:07,080 Speaker 1: Gazi him on this, on that they're trying to ben 1239 01:12:07,120 --> 01:12:10,559 Speaker 1: Gazzi him on this, and just the naked political nature 1240 01:12:10,680 --> 01:12:14,360 Speaker 1: of what they're doing I honestly find disgusting, Like, let's 1241 01:12:14,400 --> 01:12:17,519 Speaker 1: have an honest discussion about the nature of a lot 1242 01:12:17,600 --> 01:12:20,519 Speaker 1: of what we're doing overseas. We should talk about the costs, 1243 01:12:20,560 --> 01:12:24,599 Speaker 1: we should talk about the goals. But again, for eight years, 1244 01:12:24,680 --> 01:12:28,880 Speaker 1: the military could not be bothered with pesky things like 1245 01:12:29,240 --> 01:12:32,320 Speaker 1: the lives of truths lost overseas and action. And now 1246 01:12:32,400 --> 01:12:35,000 Speaker 1: that a Republican's office, it's in vogue game in the media. 1247 01:12:35,280 --> 01:12:38,160 Speaker 1: The media could not be bothered with this. Yeah, yeah, no, 1248 01:12:38,280 --> 01:12:40,680 Speaker 1: they just they couldn't. They had too many other things 1249 01:12:40,760 --> 01:12:43,800 Speaker 1: to do. Jeff Delaney was too busy asking Obama what 1250 01:12:43,960 --> 01:12:47,599 Speaker 1: enchanted him about being president. We couldn't focus on war costs. 1251 01:12:47,640 --> 01:12:49,960 Speaker 1: But now that there's a Republican in well goodness, we're 1252 01:12:49,960 --> 01:12:53,040 Speaker 1: going to have these discussions now, I mean guests, better 1253 01:12:53,160 --> 01:12:55,320 Speaker 1: late than never. I suppose we're speaking to Sean Davids, 1254 01:12:55,400 --> 01:12:57,840 Speaker 1: co founder of the Federalists. Check out the Federalist dot 1255 01:12:57,920 --> 01:13:00,320 Speaker 1: com for his latest By the way, bo Burg Doll 1256 01:13:00,400 --> 01:13:05,160 Speaker 1: Sean um. Wow. He decided that he was going to 1257 01:13:05,280 --> 01:13:08,439 Speaker 1: say that his treatment by the Taliban was better than 1258 01:13:08,479 --> 01:13:11,600 Speaker 1: his treatment by the US military. That's he is. He 1259 01:13:11,760 --> 01:13:14,519 Speaker 1: is not helping himself here, he is he cannot dig up. 1260 01:13:16,280 --> 01:13:19,160 Speaker 1: You know I was. I didn't think that quote was 1261 01:13:19,240 --> 01:13:22,439 Speaker 1: real when I first saw it. I didn't. There's no 1262 01:13:22,560 --> 01:13:26,560 Speaker 1: way a man who, after being deserted, nearly cost the 1263 01:13:26,640 --> 01:13:29,640 Speaker 1: lives of I don't know how many servicemen, one in particular. 1264 01:13:29,760 --> 01:13:33,280 Speaker 1: I don't think we'll ever walk or talk again. And 1265 01:13:33,479 --> 01:13:36,880 Speaker 1: this guy has the audacity to come out and say, 1266 01:13:36,880 --> 01:13:40,080 Speaker 1: you know what, um my captors to whom I fled 1267 01:13:40,160 --> 01:13:42,320 Speaker 1: when I deserted the army, they were actually better. Okay, 1268 01:13:42,400 --> 01:13:44,240 Speaker 1: well let's send you back, you know. And it was 1269 01:13:44,320 --> 01:13:47,280 Speaker 1: a very curious argument coming from this clown. At the 1270 01:13:47,360 --> 01:13:49,880 Speaker 1: same time, people on his side are trying to say, well, yeah, 1271 01:13:49,960 --> 01:13:52,840 Speaker 1: he was just honorably discharged, but you know he's already 1272 01:13:52,880 --> 01:13:55,519 Speaker 1: done time served. It was bad enough being with the Taliban. 1273 01:13:55,680 --> 01:13:57,840 Speaker 1: Well apparently it wasn't that bad. Let's just throw him 1274 01:13:57,840 --> 01:13:59,360 Speaker 1: in the clink for the rest of his life, and then, 1275 01:13:59,479 --> 01:14:03,160 Speaker 1: you know, he really reflect on the consequences of his 1276 01:14:03,640 --> 01:14:06,479 Speaker 1: garbage decision making over the last five years, sean one 1277 01:14:06,520 --> 01:14:08,720 Speaker 1: more before we let you go. Congress is gonna get 1278 01:14:08,720 --> 01:14:13,000 Speaker 1: anything done before the Christmas holiday? Oh no, no, I'm 1279 01:14:13,200 --> 01:14:15,479 Speaker 1: I roll my eyes every time I hear about tax reform. 1280 01:14:15,560 --> 01:14:18,640 Speaker 1: It's a constant MacGuffin that Congress pretends is gonna do 1281 01:14:18,840 --> 01:14:20,880 Speaker 1: you know, I would love if they cut taxes and 1282 01:14:20,960 --> 01:14:24,320 Speaker 1: fixed tax code. Um, but these guys, especially in the Senate, 1283 01:14:24,400 --> 01:14:27,400 Speaker 1: can't even manage to work on Mondays and Friday. So, uh, 1284 01:14:27,680 --> 01:14:29,960 Speaker 1: my hopes aren't aren't really all that high. Everyone go 1285 01:14:30,120 --> 01:14:33,200 Speaker 1: check out the federals dot com and follow Sean at 1286 01:14:33,760 --> 01:14:36,360 Speaker 1: s E A N M d A V on Twitter. 1287 01:14:36,520 --> 01:14:41,040 Speaker 1: Sean Davis, great to have you, sir, Thank you my friend. Alright, team, 1288 01:14:41,280 --> 01:14:43,920 Speaker 1: we're gonna be coming back up into a third hour 1289 01:14:44,000 --> 01:14:46,640 Speaker 1: here in which we'll talk about a big bullying p 1290 01:14:47,040 --> 01:14:49,960 Speaker 1: s A from Burger King. We'll talk about bullying in 1291 01:14:50,000 --> 01:14:52,840 Speaker 1: the next hour. We're also talking about the omnipresence of 1292 01:14:52,920 --> 01:14:55,640 Speaker 1: the surveillance state, and the short version is you've got 1293 01:14:55,680 --> 01:14:58,719 Speaker 1: a microphone at a video camera on you at all times, 1294 01:14:58,840 --> 01:15:02,000 Speaker 1: literally on your person and probably watching you as well. 1295 01:15:02,840 --> 01:15:05,360 Speaker 1: We'll get into all that and uh and so much 1296 01:15:05,400 --> 01:15:08,080 Speaker 1: more coming up in the next hour, So stay with me. 1297 01:15:08,600 --> 01:15:13,280 Speaker 1: Scotty chubby short queer getting caught up in bully it's 1298 01:15:13,360 --> 01:15:17,120 Speaker 1: so easy because you're just glad that you're not being bullied. 1299 01:15:17,360 --> 01:15:19,000 Speaker 1: It's been hard for me to stand up for other 1300 01:15:19,080 --> 01:15:21,439 Speaker 1: people because I feel like I'm already it's hard get 1301 01:15:21,920 --> 01:15:24,439 Speaker 1: it's just easier to do nothing. So that was audio 1302 01:15:24,720 --> 01:15:29,880 Speaker 1: from a now viral anti bullying Burger King ad that 1303 01:15:30,080 --> 01:15:33,920 Speaker 1: ran last week, and I wanted to share my thoughts 1304 01:15:34,000 --> 01:15:37,960 Speaker 1: on this whole situation with you as somebody who has 1305 01:15:38,800 --> 01:15:41,720 Speaker 1: had to stand up to bullies in his younger life, 1306 01:15:41,920 --> 01:15:45,400 Speaker 1: has stood up to bullies on behalf of other people, 1307 01:15:46,080 --> 01:15:52,240 Speaker 1: and also has, because of my particular perch in the media, 1308 01:15:52,960 --> 01:15:59,520 Speaker 1: a somewhat cynical view of public service announcements by massive corporations. 1309 01:15:59,520 --> 01:16:02,599 Speaker 1: I want to bring all these things together. So here's 1310 01:16:02,600 --> 01:16:04,560 Speaker 1: what happens in this ad, if you haven't seen it. 1311 01:16:05,120 --> 01:16:08,559 Speaker 1: Burger King does hidden camera footage in a Burger King 1312 01:16:09,160 --> 01:16:12,599 Speaker 1: of some high school aged they say, a high school 1313 01:16:12,680 --> 01:16:17,160 Speaker 1: junior being very clearly bullied by a few other kids 1314 01:16:17,280 --> 01:16:21,040 Speaker 1: roughly his age. And then they show that a lot 1315 01:16:21,120 --> 01:16:24,960 Speaker 1: of customers don't do anything. And then they show the 1316 01:16:25,080 --> 01:16:31,479 Speaker 1: same customers receive a smashed or quote bullied uh Whopper Jr. 1317 01:16:31,600 --> 01:16:34,080 Speaker 1: Which is a a burger that Burger King still serves, 1318 01:16:34,760 --> 01:16:37,679 Speaker 1: and they show that a vast majority of the people 1319 01:16:37,720 --> 01:16:40,360 Speaker 1: to get the bad burger stand, you know, stand up 1320 01:16:40,400 --> 01:16:43,200 Speaker 1: and say that there's a problem but only twelve percent 1321 01:16:43,280 --> 01:16:48,760 Speaker 1: of customers got involved with the bullying situation in front 1322 01:16:48,800 --> 01:16:52,719 Speaker 1: of their very eyes. Now, a few things here, first 1323 01:16:52,800 --> 01:16:55,840 Speaker 1: of all, um and and they put out some statistics 1324 01:16:55,880 --> 01:16:59,799 Speaker 1: in this public service announcement as well. Bullying is terrible, 1325 01:17:00,160 --> 01:17:04,360 Speaker 1: and of kids being bullied, school aged children being bullied 1326 01:17:04,400 --> 01:17:07,400 Speaker 1: this country every year is far too much. But bullying 1327 01:17:07,439 --> 01:17:09,519 Speaker 1: has been around for as long as there have been 1328 01:17:09,640 --> 01:17:12,960 Speaker 1: kids gathering in groups of two or more, and it's 1329 01:17:13,040 --> 01:17:17,760 Speaker 1: not going to go away entirely anytime soon. Uh. And 1330 01:17:17,880 --> 01:17:21,519 Speaker 1: in fact, I think cyber bullying is much has made 1331 01:17:21,520 --> 01:17:25,320 Speaker 1: the situation much worse and much more pernicious than it 1332 01:17:25,439 --> 01:17:28,759 Speaker 1: was years ago. So in that way, technology has actually 1333 01:17:28,800 --> 01:17:33,000 Speaker 1: made bullying a a bigger issue. And I'll talk to 1334 01:17:33,040 --> 01:17:36,680 Speaker 1: you about the surveillance aspects of technology actually in just 1335 01:17:36,760 --> 01:17:40,320 Speaker 1: a few minutes here. But bullying in general, I think 1336 01:17:40,439 --> 01:17:44,280 Speaker 1: is made worse by the connectivity that we all have online. 1337 01:17:45,080 --> 01:17:46,840 Speaker 1: But here are a few thoughts I have on just 1338 01:17:46,960 --> 01:17:49,400 Speaker 1: bullying as a general matter. You will notice that this 1339 01:17:49,560 --> 01:17:51,560 Speaker 1: is an issue that has taken up on both the 1340 01:17:51,680 --> 01:17:56,000 Speaker 1: left and the right. Milannia Trump is uh or this 1341 01:17:56,160 --> 01:17:59,439 Speaker 1: week I believe madeay or maybe it was last week Milannia. 1342 01:17:59,479 --> 01:18:02,280 Speaker 1: Trump has to stop in Michigan to go with an 1343 01:18:02,280 --> 01:18:08,080 Speaker 1: anti bullying campaign, and the idea seems to be that 1344 01:18:08,560 --> 01:18:12,040 Speaker 1: the best way to get bullying to stop is something 1345 01:18:12,160 --> 01:18:16,920 Speaker 1: along the lines of a see something, say something campaign. Right, 1346 01:18:17,120 --> 01:18:20,719 Speaker 1: you see someone bullied being bullied, either step in yourself 1347 01:18:20,840 --> 01:18:24,479 Speaker 1: or go tell an authority figure. That is absolutely a 1348 01:18:24,640 --> 01:18:27,720 Speaker 1: part of a solution, but I think there's a level 1349 01:18:27,800 --> 01:18:31,559 Speaker 1: even beneath that, meaning there's a more foundational issue here 1350 01:18:32,360 --> 01:18:36,320 Speaker 1: of teaching people across the board, when I mean people, 1351 01:18:36,360 --> 01:18:41,160 Speaker 1: school age children, what it means to be honorable, what 1352 01:18:41,360 --> 01:18:45,640 Speaker 1: it means to be a person of honor and integrity, 1353 01:18:46,360 --> 01:18:51,000 Speaker 1: and not to think that somehow the more masculine virtues 1354 01:18:51,240 --> 01:18:55,200 Speaker 1: of standing up for those weaker than you, standing up 1355 01:18:55,320 --> 01:18:59,560 Speaker 1: for women, especially when women are threatened by men, that 1356 01:18:59,800 --> 01:19:03,639 Speaker 1: there are some problem with that. And this is where 1357 01:19:03,680 --> 01:19:05,960 Speaker 1: I think the Left runs off the rails on all 1358 01:19:06,000 --> 01:19:10,960 Speaker 1: of this. If you're going to be effective in standing 1359 01:19:11,080 --> 01:19:14,680 Speaker 1: up for somebody who is being bullied, the best way 1360 01:19:14,720 --> 01:19:17,519 Speaker 1: to do it is to empower people, including the bullied, 1361 01:19:18,160 --> 01:19:23,679 Speaker 1: to assert their own right to uh peace and quiet, 1362 01:19:23,720 --> 01:19:26,240 Speaker 1: assert their right to self defense, assert their right to 1363 01:19:27,000 --> 01:19:31,639 Speaker 1: stand up for themselves, and also to push those around 1364 01:19:31,880 --> 01:19:34,439 Speaker 1: or to encourage those pushes A bad term there, to 1365 01:19:34,680 --> 01:19:39,720 Speaker 1: encourage those around somebody being bullied to do the honorable thing, 1366 01:19:39,800 --> 01:19:42,360 Speaker 1: which is to stand up for that person. And I 1367 01:19:42,439 --> 01:19:44,120 Speaker 1: just don't hear it talk. I'm not saying that this 1368 01:19:44,400 --> 01:19:48,799 Speaker 1: isn't a concept that exists outside of a conservative, liberal 1369 01:19:48,920 --> 01:19:52,200 Speaker 1: or a left right paradigm. But I just think that 1370 01:19:53,200 --> 01:19:56,360 Speaker 1: we see this rise in whether it's real or not, 1371 01:19:56,479 --> 01:19:59,519 Speaker 1: there's a perception of a rise in bullying, and then 1372 01:19:59,560 --> 01:20:04,200 Speaker 1: there's all so this uh desire to move away from 1373 01:20:04,240 --> 01:20:07,400 Speaker 1: what are what we're considered and it's probably a microaggression. 1374 01:20:07,439 --> 01:20:12,360 Speaker 1: Even call them this the masculine virtues. But you know, 1375 01:20:12,439 --> 01:20:15,160 Speaker 1: I can tell you that one of my oldest friends 1376 01:20:16,280 --> 01:20:18,639 Speaker 1: from college, I should say one of my oldest friends stretching. 1377 01:20:18,800 --> 01:20:20,880 Speaker 1: I have friends from when I was to this day 1378 01:20:21,080 --> 01:20:23,000 Speaker 1: six or seven years old, a few of them, but 1379 01:20:23,120 --> 01:20:25,400 Speaker 1: one of my oldest college friends, which now seems like 1380 01:20:25,479 --> 01:20:29,360 Speaker 1: a long time ago, I met because really he was 1381 01:20:29,439 --> 01:20:33,360 Speaker 1: being bullied. We were rowing, well I was rowing, and 1382 01:20:33,439 --> 01:20:36,120 Speaker 1: he was what we call a cox in on the 1383 01:20:36,160 --> 01:20:38,639 Speaker 1: crew team. And the cocks in is always a very 1384 01:20:38,840 --> 01:20:41,880 Speaker 1: small guy and literally has to be I mean it 1385 01:20:41,920 --> 01:20:44,240 Speaker 1: has to be about a hundred and twenty pounds or less. 1386 01:20:44,360 --> 01:20:46,680 Speaker 1: Can be male, can be female, but it's a it's 1387 01:20:46,720 --> 01:20:49,439 Speaker 1: a slight person because they're not rowing, and so you're 1388 01:20:49,520 --> 01:20:53,040 Speaker 1: just dragging their weight along. You do not want to 1389 01:20:53,160 --> 01:20:55,200 Speaker 1: have a two d and fifty pound cocks And no 1390 01:20:55,320 --> 01:20:58,720 Speaker 1: matter how fit or wonderful or good, that cox and 1391 01:20:58,760 --> 01:21:02,680 Speaker 1: maybe the cocks uh that's what they call it, the 1392 01:21:02,760 --> 01:21:08,160 Speaker 1: cocks on my crew team, the cocks in uh decided 1393 01:21:08,240 --> 01:21:12,040 Speaker 1: that he will. He essentially got under the skin of 1394 01:21:12,120 --> 01:21:16,160 Speaker 1: somebody who's trying out for the team. And after a practice, 1395 01:21:16,200 --> 01:21:19,519 Speaker 1: wheneveryone had walked away from the shells, which are the 1396 01:21:19,800 --> 01:21:23,439 Speaker 1: the the boats that you row in, I turned around 1397 01:21:23,520 --> 01:21:27,599 Speaker 1: and I see this guy actually choking out the cocks 1398 01:21:27,720 --> 01:21:31,519 Speaker 1: in right there. So I'm by myself, and so I 1399 01:21:31,640 --> 01:21:34,840 Speaker 1: walked over there, and he was lightweight crew. I was 1400 01:21:34,880 --> 01:21:37,840 Speaker 1: heavyweight crew, and with the guy didn't really make the team, 1401 01:21:37,880 --> 01:21:41,000 Speaker 1: but anyway, I remember pulling him off the cocks in 1402 01:21:41,680 --> 01:21:44,519 Speaker 1: and he turned around to me and I just said, look, 1403 01:21:45,000 --> 01:21:47,920 Speaker 1: you have no chance here. And my friend always tells 1404 01:21:48,000 --> 01:21:50,040 Speaker 1: the story too much laughter, but I said, look, you 1405 01:21:50,080 --> 01:21:53,000 Speaker 1: have no chance. I'm twice your size, This isn't worth it. 1406 01:21:53,280 --> 01:21:56,280 Speaker 1: Take your hands off him and just walk away. And 1407 01:21:57,160 --> 01:21:59,160 Speaker 1: it worked, and he did walk away, and I think 1408 01:21:59,200 --> 01:22:02,439 Speaker 1: he realized at you know, putting his hands on somebody's 1409 01:22:02,479 --> 01:22:08,759 Speaker 1: throat over a Division three collegiate athletic competition was pretty 1410 01:22:08,800 --> 01:22:10,719 Speaker 1: insane no matter what. And he was actually he wasn't 1411 01:22:10,720 --> 01:22:13,680 Speaker 1: a bad guy. He just completely lost his temper and 1412 01:22:13,800 --> 01:22:15,479 Speaker 1: had lost sense of where he was and what he 1413 01:22:15,600 --> 01:22:18,760 Speaker 1: was doing. Doesn't excuse his behavior, but you know, this 1414 01:22:19,160 --> 01:22:21,240 Speaker 1: wasn't some mass murder. I'm not going to pretend like 1415 01:22:21,320 --> 01:22:24,759 Speaker 1: this was a terrible person, but he was assaulting someone 1416 01:22:24,920 --> 01:22:28,680 Speaker 1: with no provocation. And I remember weighing in on this, 1417 01:22:29,320 --> 01:22:32,840 Speaker 1: but it was also only possible because it need be. 1418 01:22:33,000 --> 01:22:34,920 Speaker 1: I was actually ready to fight on someone who was 1419 01:22:34,960 --> 01:22:38,519 Speaker 1: smaller than me, fight on his behalf, that same friend 1420 01:22:38,560 --> 01:22:40,679 Speaker 1: of mine. I should note, maybe he did rub people 1421 01:22:40,680 --> 01:22:43,240 Speaker 1: the wrong way, got punched in the face for being 1422 01:22:43,320 --> 01:22:47,320 Speaker 1: a conservative. Years later, Um, he was punched and his 1423 01:22:47,439 --> 01:22:50,000 Speaker 1: glasses were broken. He was a very small guy by 1424 01:22:50,040 --> 01:22:52,320 Speaker 1: somebody he had never met at a party, just because 1425 01:22:52,400 --> 01:22:55,200 Speaker 1: he was a college Republican and a very vocal one. 1426 01:22:55,840 --> 01:22:57,800 Speaker 1: I wasn't at that party to come to his aid, 1427 01:22:57,880 --> 01:23:02,519 Speaker 1: but nonetheless. But I bring this up because you know, 1428 01:23:03,360 --> 01:23:05,760 Speaker 1: it's not enough to tell people, Yeah, you gotta like go, 1429 01:23:05,960 --> 01:23:08,840 Speaker 1: what was I gonna do? I was gonna go run 1430 01:23:09,000 --> 01:23:10,840 Speaker 1: like a quarter mile down the road and see if 1431 01:23:10,880 --> 01:23:12,720 Speaker 1: I could catch up with the coach and his van 1432 01:23:12,800 --> 01:23:15,200 Speaker 1: they ever had left, right, Well, I was gonna I 1433 01:23:15,240 --> 01:23:18,439 Speaker 1: was gonna report this to the administration later. There is 1434 01:23:18,479 --> 01:23:22,920 Speaker 1: a part of anti bullying that is tied in with, 1435 01:23:23,120 --> 01:23:25,400 Speaker 1: I don't know how else to say it, the masculine, 1436 01:23:25,479 --> 01:23:30,280 Speaker 1: almost chivalrous virtues of defending the week, uh, you know, 1437 01:23:30,400 --> 01:23:35,439 Speaker 1: helping you know, helping the elderly, defending women, especially from men. 1438 01:23:36,200 --> 01:23:38,960 Speaker 1: And that's that's just abandon more and more in our culture. 1439 01:23:39,120 --> 01:23:44,040 Speaker 1: It's it's considered I don't know, hyper masculine or toxic masculinity. 1440 01:23:44,960 --> 01:23:49,599 Speaker 1: But there should be a an embrace of the more 1441 01:23:49,720 --> 01:23:54,000 Speaker 1: masculine virtues for the purposes of, you know, helping somebody 1442 01:23:54,080 --> 01:23:59,120 Speaker 1: out who's in a physically dangerous situation, you know, when 1443 01:23:59,160 --> 01:24:02,160 Speaker 1: you can. And I just think we've gotten away from that. 1444 01:24:02,680 --> 01:24:06,759 Speaker 1: And if you really want to stop bullying, somebody who's 1445 01:24:06,880 --> 01:24:10,400 Speaker 1: imposing enough and able to intervene has to feel like 1446 01:24:10,439 --> 01:24:15,519 Speaker 1: they should intervene. Physically not just go and reported to 1447 01:24:15,560 --> 01:24:18,479 Speaker 1: the Dean's office later on. I can tell you other 1448 01:24:18,520 --> 01:24:20,320 Speaker 1: stories of this too, but you know, I don't want 1449 01:24:20,320 --> 01:24:22,720 Speaker 1: to get too into you know, Buck's greatest hits of 1450 01:24:23,080 --> 01:24:26,400 Speaker 1: of anti bullying. I've always hated bullies, though I really 1451 01:24:26,479 --> 01:24:29,639 Speaker 1: have a I have a deep disdain for people picking 1452 01:24:29,680 --> 01:24:31,519 Speaker 1: on people smaller than them, and people who are mean 1453 01:24:31,600 --> 01:24:34,080 Speaker 1: to animals. Those are the two places where, and especially 1454 01:24:34,160 --> 01:24:37,160 Speaker 1: mean to dogs. I always think about how in any 1455 01:24:37,240 --> 01:24:39,000 Speaker 1: movie when someone's being to a dog and I'm like, well, 1456 01:24:39,040 --> 01:24:41,600 Speaker 1: that guy better get his later, you know, it's just 1457 01:24:42,640 --> 01:24:45,840 Speaker 1: I'm done. I'm done with that person. And also people 1458 01:24:45,880 --> 01:24:47,840 Speaker 1: that pick on people who are a lot smaller and 1459 01:24:47,920 --> 01:24:52,240 Speaker 1: weaker than they are. It deeply bothers me, um and 1460 01:24:52,320 --> 01:24:54,280 Speaker 1: it stays with me. And actually I can even think 1461 01:24:54,320 --> 01:24:57,439 Speaker 1: of sometimes when I was a lot younger and I 1462 01:24:57,520 --> 01:25:00,040 Speaker 1: saw somebody being bullied, and I would I never I 1463 01:25:00,080 --> 01:25:03,280 Speaker 1: will tell you I never bullied anybody myself, which I'm 1464 01:25:03,439 --> 01:25:05,080 Speaker 1: I guess kind of proud of was I'm telling you, 1465 01:25:05,680 --> 01:25:07,200 Speaker 1: But there were some times where I might have been 1466 01:25:07,240 --> 01:25:11,080 Speaker 1: able to step in and stop somebody else from being bullied, 1467 01:25:11,080 --> 01:25:13,439 Speaker 1: And the only reason I didn't was because I think 1468 01:25:13,479 --> 01:25:15,880 Speaker 1: the bully would have taken me and uh in a fight, 1469 01:25:16,040 --> 01:25:18,479 Speaker 1: and I didn't really want to, you know, I didn't 1470 01:25:18,520 --> 01:25:20,760 Speaker 1: really want to escalate the situation and lose. And you 1471 01:25:20,840 --> 01:25:22,559 Speaker 1: got to pick your battles. That's a part of all 1472 01:25:22,640 --> 01:25:25,839 Speaker 1: this too. And on that notion of of picking battles, 1473 01:25:25,880 --> 01:25:27,600 Speaker 1: I just also wanted to say, and back to this 1474 01:25:27,720 --> 01:25:30,680 Speaker 1: Burger King ps public service announcement, Burger King p s 1475 01:25:30,760 --> 01:25:34,559 Speaker 1: a on bullying of students bullied each year. That's way 1476 01:25:34,600 --> 01:25:37,839 Speaker 1: too high. Only twelve percent of Burger King's customers got involved. 1477 01:25:38,400 --> 01:25:40,599 Speaker 1: All right, Well, let's think about this for a second. Okay, 1478 01:25:40,640 --> 01:25:43,400 Speaker 1: I'm a thirty five year old, two hundred pound mail 1479 01:25:44,120 --> 01:25:47,400 Speaker 1: uh six ft tall. I'm in a Burger King. I 1480 01:25:47,520 --> 01:25:51,519 Speaker 1: see a couple of high school kids, you know, getting 1481 01:25:51,520 --> 01:25:53,960 Speaker 1: into some kind of an argument. And I understand what 1482 01:25:54,080 --> 01:25:57,519 Speaker 1: Burger King wants you to do, is you know, UH, 1483 01:25:58,400 --> 01:26:00,800 Speaker 1: sidle up and say, hey, leave him alone or something. 1484 01:26:01,080 --> 01:26:03,080 Speaker 1: But I live in New York City and I can 1485 01:26:03,120 --> 01:26:07,000 Speaker 1: tell you that sometimes when you just kind of make something, 1486 01:26:07,320 --> 01:26:09,840 Speaker 1: when you make someone else's problem your problem, all of 1487 01:26:09,880 --> 01:26:13,600 Speaker 1: a sudden, it can escalate very quickly. And I just 1488 01:26:13,680 --> 01:26:17,120 Speaker 1: think about how Okay, in this case, the actors that 1489 01:26:17,160 --> 01:26:20,120 Speaker 1: are bullying this kid don't look scary or imposing or anything. 1490 01:26:20,160 --> 01:26:22,120 Speaker 1: They're kind of small. They're little high school kids that 1491 01:26:22,200 --> 01:26:25,560 Speaker 1: are doing the bullying. But yeah, if I see a 1492 01:26:25,640 --> 01:26:28,320 Speaker 1: couple of seventeen year olds and they're arguing or you know, 1493 01:26:28,439 --> 01:26:30,840 Speaker 1: throwing French fries at each other in a burger King 1494 01:26:30,920 --> 01:26:34,200 Speaker 1: or McDonald's, and now I get involved. What if one 1495 01:26:34,240 --> 01:26:36,200 Speaker 1: of those What if one of those teenagers takes a 1496 01:26:36,240 --> 01:26:39,680 Speaker 1: swing in me, you know, and then I take a 1497 01:26:39,720 --> 01:26:43,240 Speaker 1: swing back, and what if I actually break that teenager's jaw. 1498 01:26:43,960 --> 01:26:46,160 Speaker 1: Do you think the police show up and I say, well, 1499 01:26:46,320 --> 01:26:50,640 Speaker 1: sir um, I was intervening in a bullying situation and 1500 01:26:51,040 --> 01:26:52,400 Speaker 1: I just had to punch that kid right in the 1501 01:26:52,479 --> 01:26:55,240 Speaker 1: face because he took a swing at me. You know, 1502 01:26:55,320 --> 01:26:57,680 Speaker 1: you better hope that's all on video camera. And even then, 1503 01:26:57,920 --> 01:27:00,240 Speaker 1: you better hope you don't get sued. You know, it's 1504 01:27:00,280 --> 01:27:04,960 Speaker 1: just not as easy as expecting a total stranger to intervene, right. 1505 01:27:05,000 --> 01:27:08,439 Speaker 1: That's different than somebody from within the peer group, which 1506 01:27:08,479 --> 01:27:10,280 Speaker 1: is what we really need to focus on, especially for 1507 01:27:10,400 --> 01:27:14,920 Speaker 1: school age students. The people best suited to intervene in 1508 01:27:15,000 --> 01:27:18,120 Speaker 1: a bullying situation. Are those who are within that peer 1509 01:27:18,200 --> 01:27:20,920 Speaker 1: group or authority figures with control over the peer group, 1510 01:27:21,439 --> 01:27:25,040 Speaker 1: not a total stranger coming into it, because you don't 1511 01:27:25,080 --> 01:27:26,920 Speaker 1: know what you're getting into. And it reminds me of 1512 01:27:26,920 --> 01:27:29,599 Speaker 1: what I told you of the story of the scam 1513 01:27:29,720 --> 01:27:31,439 Speaker 1: that was going on on the street in front of me, 1514 01:27:31,960 --> 01:27:34,720 Speaker 1: remember a couple of months ago, where a Taurus was 1515 01:27:34,800 --> 01:27:37,920 Speaker 1: being scammed with a CD It's I won't get into 1516 01:27:37,960 --> 01:27:40,080 Speaker 1: the scam again, but essentially, you know, it's give me 1517 01:27:40,120 --> 01:27:43,479 Speaker 1: fifteen dollars for this worthless c D And I thought 1518 01:27:43,479 --> 01:27:46,200 Speaker 1: about intervening, but well, what if what if I actually 1519 01:27:46,240 --> 01:27:49,280 Speaker 1: get into a fight now and these kids say that 1520 01:27:49,360 --> 01:27:52,040 Speaker 1: they're you know, aspiring musicians and that they're actually just 1521 01:27:52,160 --> 01:27:54,120 Speaker 1: trying to sell c d s, And then I was 1522 01:27:54,960 --> 01:27:57,920 Speaker 1: infringing on their business and making judgments about them and 1523 01:27:58,000 --> 01:28:00,240 Speaker 1: you know all this other stuff. Right now, I got 1524 01:28:00,280 --> 01:28:03,360 Speaker 1: a big problem. So I understand where burger King is 1525 01:28:03,439 --> 01:28:06,280 Speaker 1: coming from on this, but it's not really fair to 1526 01:28:06,400 --> 01:28:09,240 Speaker 1: me to have adults and a burger King watching some 1527 01:28:09,439 --> 01:28:12,679 Speaker 1: kids having some kind of squabble and expect that they're 1528 01:28:12,720 --> 01:28:15,680 Speaker 1: just gonna jump in there and do something like I 1529 01:28:15,840 --> 01:28:18,360 Speaker 1: was saying, if you want bulling to end, it's within 1530 01:28:18,479 --> 01:28:20,920 Speaker 1: the peer group is the best way to get it 1531 01:28:21,000 --> 01:28:24,360 Speaker 1: to end. It's it's not Oh, anybody with an earshot 1532 01:28:24,439 --> 01:28:27,240 Speaker 1: of this should just come swooping in there, because you 1533 01:28:27,360 --> 01:28:30,360 Speaker 1: don't know what you're getting into. I know from law 1534 01:28:30,479 --> 01:28:33,880 Speaker 1: enforcement that there and from the guys I know who 1535 01:28:33,920 --> 01:28:36,000 Speaker 1: actually were were the badge and carried a gun in 1536 01:28:36,120 --> 01:28:39,280 Speaker 1: law enforcement. I spent you know, about eighteen months with 1537 01:28:39,360 --> 01:28:44,920 Speaker 1: the NYPDE and as an analyst, and they will tell 1538 01:28:44,960 --> 01:28:47,599 Speaker 1: you that you get involved between a husband and a wife, 1539 01:28:48,120 --> 01:28:50,960 Speaker 1: she can go from I hate him, lock him up 1540 01:28:51,080 --> 01:28:53,519 Speaker 1: to trying to pound you over the head with a 1541 01:28:53,600 --> 01:28:56,719 Speaker 1: frying pan for locking him up in about a blink 1542 01:28:56,760 --> 01:29:00,439 Speaker 1: of an eye. You just don't always know. So I 1543 01:29:00,640 --> 01:29:02,320 Speaker 1: just want to put in that note of caution. It's 1544 01:29:02,320 --> 01:29:05,240 Speaker 1: a little more complicated. And I also think wise burger 1545 01:29:05,320 --> 01:29:07,800 Speaker 1: King doing this anti bullying ad. So the people like me, 1546 01:29:07,880 --> 01:29:10,080 Speaker 1: we'll talk about burger king, because what is burger king 1547 01:29:10,160 --> 01:29:13,120 Speaker 1: really it's the thing that you think might be McDonald's 1548 01:29:13,120 --> 01:29:15,760 Speaker 1: from a distance, but you get closer, it's not. Oh, 1549 01:29:16,160 --> 01:29:19,120 Speaker 1: I know, it's harsh, it's harsh. Alright, team, I've got 1550 01:29:19,240 --> 01:29:21,760 Speaker 1: a lot more. Stay with me right through this break. 1551 01:29:21,800 --> 01:29:24,759 Speaker 1: I'll be with you on the flip side. You wouldn't 1552 01:29:24,800 --> 01:29:29,120 Speaker 1: think that the head of the Environmental Protection Agency would 1553 01:29:29,160 --> 01:29:32,280 Speaker 1: be the kind of role where you'd have to worry 1554 01:29:32,600 --> 01:29:36,599 Speaker 1: about your personal safety and security, right, I mean, nobody 1555 01:29:36,960 --> 01:29:40,800 Speaker 1: goes to bed at night uh thinking ill thoughts about 1556 01:29:40,920 --> 01:29:46,800 Speaker 1: the uh Secretary of the Interior or Commerce secretary or 1557 01:29:47,280 --> 01:29:49,760 Speaker 1: people don't even know who they are really, So you 1558 01:29:49,800 --> 01:29:51,680 Speaker 1: would think that the e p A head would not 1559 01:29:51,920 --> 01:29:55,080 Speaker 1: be a post where you'd have to be overly concerned 1560 01:29:55,160 --> 01:29:57,200 Speaker 1: or concerned at all about any of this. Well, it 1561 01:29:57,360 --> 01:30:01,920 Speaker 1: turns out that you do if you are the current 1562 01:30:02,760 --> 01:30:08,479 Speaker 1: ep A director. The Environmental Protection Agency is expanding security, 1563 01:30:08,479 --> 01:30:11,479 Speaker 1: according to the New York Post here for administrator Scott Pruett, 1564 01:30:12,080 --> 01:30:16,720 Speaker 1: bringing the number of people guarding him to thirty. Salaries 1565 01:30:16,760 --> 01:30:18,880 Speaker 1: for guards. Providing the extra protection will cost more than 1566 01:30:18,920 --> 01:30:22,000 Speaker 1: two million dollars a year, a level of around the 1567 01:30:22,040 --> 01:30:25,120 Speaker 1: clock security no ep e p A chief has ever 1568 01:30:25,280 --> 01:30:30,160 Speaker 1: received before. Because he has received more death threats than 1569 01:30:30,200 --> 01:30:32,840 Speaker 1: any of his predecessors, in fact, four to five x 1570 01:30:33,080 --> 01:30:37,400 Speaker 1: four to five times more than any of his predecessors, 1571 01:30:37,920 --> 01:30:41,960 Speaker 1: and there have been seveny investigations so far launched into 1572 01:30:42,120 --> 01:30:46,559 Speaker 1: threats against Pruitt. So let's just take a step back 1573 01:30:46,560 --> 01:30:49,000 Speaker 1: and understand what's going on here, because I don't think 1574 01:30:49,040 --> 01:30:53,840 Speaker 1: it's being reported clearly enough at all. You have these 1575 01:30:54,520 --> 01:31:01,760 Speaker 1: green green energy climate change alarmist whacks out there who 1576 01:31:01,880 --> 01:31:06,040 Speaker 1: really think that they are fighting some struggle for human existence. 1577 01:31:06,800 --> 01:31:10,800 Speaker 1: And if you believe that, if you're so easily brainwashed 1578 01:31:10,840 --> 01:31:13,479 Speaker 1: and so foolish as to think that we really are 1579 01:31:13,880 --> 01:31:17,320 Speaker 1: on the precipice of the entire world being destroyed unless 1580 01:31:17,600 --> 01:31:22,200 Speaker 1: we modify carbon output from one country by ten percent 1581 01:31:22,400 --> 01:31:24,519 Speaker 1: or two percent or whatever it is that they've changed you, 1582 01:31:24,640 --> 01:31:28,160 Speaker 1: Now you are a dangerous person, right, I mean, if 1583 01:31:28,200 --> 01:31:32,040 Speaker 1: you really think that you are capable of thinking a 1584 01:31:32,120 --> 01:31:34,720 Speaker 1: whole lot of things and do not have a particularly 1585 01:31:35,080 --> 01:31:42,320 Speaker 1: strong connection to reality. But this is this is an indicator, folks, 1586 01:31:42,560 --> 01:31:46,400 Speaker 1: of what it's really like in America today, for the 1587 01:31:47,040 --> 01:31:51,040 Speaker 1: in America now, if you will, for the left and 1588 01:31:51,280 --> 01:31:55,760 Speaker 1: the way that it approaches senior administration officials who disagree 1589 01:31:56,439 --> 01:32:01,160 Speaker 1: with progressive orthodoxy on matters of import in public policy. 1590 01:32:01,560 --> 01:32:04,760 Speaker 1: I mean, this is how you have Petsy Divos, who 1591 01:32:04,960 --> 01:32:09,559 Speaker 1: is an otherwise completely uh unassumed. I mean she's a billionaire, 1592 01:32:09,640 --> 01:32:12,679 Speaker 1: but you know, it's a nice lady. And they hate 1593 01:32:13,360 --> 01:32:16,800 Speaker 1: Betsy Divos, I mean they absolutely hate her with the 1594 01:32:16,960 --> 01:32:19,439 Speaker 1: fire of a of a thousand sons on the left 1595 01:32:19,560 --> 01:32:23,599 Speaker 1: because she challenges the indoctrination machine that is the public 1596 01:32:23,760 --> 01:32:27,519 Speaker 1: education school system in this country. And they hate Scott 1597 01:32:27,680 --> 01:32:30,600 Speaker 1: Pruett because as head of e p A he's not 1598 01:32:30,760 --> 01:32:33,719 Speaker 1: allowing the e p A to just be a giant 1599 01:32:35,080 --> 01:32:40,920 Speaker 1: ideological echo chamber for climate change alarmism. And there are 1600 01:32:41,200 --> 01:32:43,439 Speaker 1: there are people, very few, I think of the grand 1601 01:32:43,479 --> 01:32:46,719 Speaker 1: scheme of things, but enough that it's concerning. Who really 1602 01:32:47,160 --> 01:32:50,840 Speaker 1: think that an e p A chief who is not 1603 01:32:51,120 --> 01:32:55,160 Speaker 1: a climate climate change alarmist is a deep national security 1604 01:32:55,160 --> 01:32:56,840 Speaker 1: threat to this country. I shouldn't even say it's not 1605 01:32:57,000 --> 01:33:00,840 Speaker 1: that many. I mean as a percentage, it's probably of 1606 01:33:00,880 --> 01:33:04,759 Speaker 1: the country. But that's call it fifteen the thirty million 1607 01:33:04,800 --> 01:33:08,960 Speaker 1: people something something in that ballpark, right, I mean, maybe 1608 01:33:09,000 --> 01:33:12,559 Speaker 1: it's more right. I mean, if it's ten percent of million, 1609 01:33:12,640 --> 01:33:15,519 Speaker 1: that's thirty two million the attend of twenty you know, 1610 01:33:15,600 --> 01:33:18,000 Speaker 1: it could be as many as it could be as 1611 01:33:18,040 --> 01:33:21,400 Speaker 1: many as sixty million. Who knows that really believe in 1612 01:33:21,439 --> 01:33:25,560 Speaker 1: the climate change alarm ism, and some smaller percentage of 1613 01:33:25,640 --> 01:33:28,360 Speaker 1: that are actually so upset that they would right some 1614 01:33:28,800 --> 01:33:33,599 Speaker 1: crazy email threatening a federal agency head. But now, whether 1615 01:33:33,680 --> 01:33:40,240 Speaker 1: it's Education Department, e p A. They are enraged at 1616 01:33:40,479 --> 01:33:43,719 Speaker 1: all of Trump's top people. And it's just an indicator 1617 01:33:43,840 --> 01:33:47,559 Speaker 1: of how crazy the political how crazy the political schism 1618 01:33:47,600 --> 01:33:50,360 Speaker 1: has gotten in this country now, where the left really 1619 01:33:50,439 --> 01:33:54,160 Speaker 1: does embrace much more of an antifall, all out ideological 1620 01:33:54,320 --> 01:33:57,960 Speaker 1: and otherwise kind of war against the right than many 1621 01:33:58,000 --> 01:34:01,000 Speaker 1: of us had anticipated before this election. Let's talk about 1622 01:34:01,000 --> 01:34:03,080 Speaker 1: the surveillance state, my friends, that's coming up in just 1623 01:34:03,200 --> 01:34:06,960 Speaker 1: a few Stay with me. Should you always assume you 1624 01:34:07,240 --> 01:34:11,759 Speaker 1: are possibly being recorded? It's a question that was posed 1625 01:34:12,080 --> 01:34:15,000 Speaker 1: in this piece all right over the weekend by Mandy 1626 01:34:15,520 --> 01:34:19,160 Speaker 1: stat Miller over at the Daily Beast. Never never heard 1627 01:34:19,200 --> 01:34:22,839 Speaker 1: of miss stat Miller before, but this is a question 1628 01:34:23,960 --> 01:34:26,479 Speaker 1: whether or not you should assume you're always being recorded, 1629 01:34:26,520 --> 01:34:29,880 Speaker 1: A question that I have been asking for quite some 1630 01:34:30,280 --> 01:34:34,880 Speaker 1: time now. One of the surprises to me has been 1631 01:34:35,320 --> 01:34:41,200 Speaker 1: the series of supposed revelations in the press about just 1632 01:34:41,479 --> 01:34:47,240 Speaker 1: how extensive government surveillance can be. As somebody who comes 1633 01:34:47,439 --> 01:34:51,479 Speaker 1: out of the world of government and intelligence and information collection. 1634 01:34:52,360 --> 01:34:56,000 Speaker 1: I even thought before I went in that pretty much 1635 01:34:56,200 --> 01:35:03,600 Speaker 1: everything is possibly being intercepted or being stored somewhere, and 1636 01:35:03,760 --> 01:35:06,839 Speaker 1: a lot more than most folks realized in most countries 1637 01:35:07,320 --> 01:35:11,400 Speaker 1: is being stored and it will intercept it and stored somewhere. 1638 01:35:12,280 --> 01:35:16,400 Speaker 1: And this now has started to filter into our day 1639 01:35:16,439 --> 01:35:19,479 Speaker 1: to day mentality about what's going on in our lives. 1640 01:35:20,280 --> 01:35:23,880 Speaker 1: I have to say that if you had told people 1641 01:35:24,439 --> 01:35:30,040 Speaker 1: twenty years ago that they would have multiple cameras and 1642 01:35:30,520 --> 01:35:34,840 Speaker 1: microphones in their bedroom, and this is true for all 1643 01:35:34,920 --> 01:35:37,839 Speaker 1: of you who have smartphones or smart TVs in your bedroom, 1644 01:35:38,439 --> 01:35:42,320 Speaker 1: multiple cameras and multiple microphones in your bedroom at any 1645 01:35:42,360 --> 01:35:46,479 Speaker 1: given time, and that they could be accidentally turned on 1646 01:35:46,840 --> 01:35:50,479 Speaker 1: and left on, and that they could be maliciously hacked 1647 01:35:50,760 --> 01:35:54,880 Speaker 1: and turned on, or stay and continue to go on 1648 01:35:55,000 --> 01:35:57,640 Speaker 1: after you think they've been turned off. I think a 1649 01:35:57,720 --> 01:36:01,519 Speaker 1: lot of people a while ago, most people, your average 1650 01:36:01,920 --> 01:36:05,639 Speaker 1: your average dude, your average guy or gal out there, 1651 01:36:05,680 --> 01:36:09,240 Speaker 1: would have said, well, that sounds really creepy. I don't 1652 01:36:09,280 --> 01:36:12,920 Speaker 1: want microphones in my bedroom. I don't want video camera 1653 01:36:13,160 --> 01:36:16,400 Speaker 1: not just video cameras, mind you, but video cameras that 1654 01:36:16,720 --> 01:36:21,480 Speaker 1: as a default in the case of say Snapchat or Instagram, 1655 01:36:22,240 --> 01:36:27,559 Speaker 1: can upload to the Worldwide Web audio and video instantaneously, 1656 01:36:28,720 --> 01:36:33,519 Speaker 1: that can be shared countless times, and that there is 1657 01:36:33,720 --> 01:36:37,120 Speaker 1: no hope of retrieving or stamping out once it is 1658 01:36:37,360 --> 01:36:41,759 Speaker 1: out there. This is, if not a brave new world, 1659 01:36:42,000 --> 01:36:45,000 Speaker 1: a a very disconcerting one that we all live in. 1660 01:36:45,720 --> 01:36:50,000 Speaker 1: And I think that it has profound implications for human behavior. 1661 01:36:51,040 --> 01:36:53,760 Speaker 1: I think that we are now in a place where 1662 01:36:53,960 --> 01:36:56,720 Speaker 1: we have to assume, and this is something that I've 1663 01:36:57,280 --> 01:37:00,360 Speaker 1: come at from two very different perspectives. We have to 1664 01:37:00,400 --> 01:37:03,000 Speaker 1: assume that there is in fact the possibility of our 1665 01:37:03,120 --> 01:37:08,840 Speaker 1: every word being recorded, our every action being videotaped, our 1666 01:37:08,960 --> 01:37:14,839 Speaker 1: every uh written communication intercepted or and I don't necessarily 1667 01:37:14,880 --> 01:37:18,360 Speaker 1: mean by the government, I just mean by someone, by 1668 01:37:18,760 --> 01:37:22,720 Speaker 1: someone somewhere. And I've thought about this from the intelligence 1669 01:37:22,760 --> 01:37:27,519 Speaker 1: officer perspective as well as from the media perspective, and 1670 01:37:27,680 --> 01:37:32,880 Speaker 1: it is in some ways absolutely wonderful. I think the 1671 01:37:33,000 --> 01:37:36,920 Speaker 1: human beings now are not just much more in communication 1672 01:37:36,960 --> 01:37:40,439 Speaker 1: than ever before, but are also much more aware of 1673 01:37:41,000 --> 01:37:45,639 Speaker 1: their behavior, especially in public but even in semi private space, 1674 01:37:45,800 --> 01:37:48,360 Speaker 1: is much more aware of the possibility of their behavior 1675 01:37:48,800 --> 01:37:52,120 Speaker 1: being recorded and shared, and that affects all of us. 1676 01:37:52,720 --> 01:37:55,120 Speaker 1: This has been around for a long time in the 1677 01:37:56,439 --> 01:38:03,240 Speaker 1: form of the almost omnipresent video camera surveillance for well. 1678 01:38:03,280 --> 01:38:05,120 Speaker 1: And people are talking about how London has all these 1679 01:38:05,760 --> 01:38:08,639 Speaker 1: video cameras, but there are other places as well where 1680 01:38:08,720 --> 01:38:10,559 Speaker 1: every time you go to an a t M machine 1681 01:38:10,760 --> 01:38:13,160 Speaker 1: or when you go through a toll booth, and you're 1682 01:38:13,240 --> 01:38:16,960 Speaker 1: being videotaped, and that's being recorded, and you're interacting with 1683 01:38:17,080 --> 01:38:19,639 Speaker 1: whether you want to or not, cameras all the time. 1684 01:38:19,960 --> 01:38:23,519 Speaker 1: I even think about in my apartment building where I 1685 01:38:23,600 --> 01:38:26,200 Speaker 1: live in New York City, and this is standard. There 1686 01:38:26,320 --> 01:38:28,880 Speaker 1: is a video camera in the lobby, there's a video 1687 01:38:28,960 --> 01:38:33,400 Speaker 1: camera in the elevator, there's a video camera on the rooftop. 1688 01:38:33,640 --> 01:38:36,160 Speaker 1: There's a video camera in our kind of tiny little 1689 01:38:36,360 --> 01:38:38,559 Speaker 1: gym area. It's a large building. We have a small, 1690 01:38:38,880 --> 01:38:40,680 Speaker 1: you know, place where you have some weights you can use. 1691 01:38:41,760 --> 01:38:45,959 Speaker 1: But any public space you're in, you're being video recorded 1692 01:38:46,439 --> 01:38:50,640 Speaker 1: all the time. And that's just become completely normalized in 1693 01:38:50,720 --> 01:38:53,439 Speaker 1: our perception. When you walk into stores now, when you 1694 01:38:53,520 --> 01:38:57,120 Speaker 1: walk into any restaurant a lot a lot of the times, 1695 01:38:57,160 --> 01:38:59,600 Speaker 1: at least by the front where the cash register is, 1696 01:38:59,800 --> 01:39:03,160 Speaker 1: or in certain areas they will in fact have a 1697 01:39:03,320 --> 01:39:08,639 Speaker 1: video camera. We have wholeheartedly as a society, as a world, 1698 01:39:08,800 --> 01:39:16,400 Speaker 1: really embraced the death of privacy. Privacy doesn't really exist anymore. 1699 01:39:17,760 --> 01:39:20,800 Speaker 1: You can hope for it in some spaces in your 1700 01:39:20,840 --> 01:39:26,919 Speaker 1: life and some places. But with the proliferation of audio 1701 01:39:27,080 --> 01:39:30,720 Speaker 1: recording and video recording devices that are Internet connected all 1702 01:39:30,760 --> 01:39:34,080 Speaker 1: over your home, and with the increasing reality of the 1703 01:39:34,160 --> 01:39:38,000 Speaker 1: so called Internet of things, in which your toaster of 1704 01:39:38,160 --> 01:39:42,160 Speaker 1: in your refrigerator will be connected to your thermostat, will 1705 01:39:42,160 --> 01:39:45,040 Speaker 1: be connected to your TV, will be connected to the 1706 01:39:45,080 --> 01:39:48,200 Speaker 1: electric blanket on your bed and whatever. I don't know 1707 01:39:48,200 --> 01:39:50,160 Speaker 1: if people really use electric blankets anymore, but you know 1708 01:39:50,160 --> 01:39:52,880 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. We are going to be surrounded by 1709 01:39:53,560 --> 01:39:57,160 Speaker 1: devices that have the ability to gather and disseminate data. 1710 01:39:58,080 --> 01:40:00,280 Speaker 1: And this is all very convenient, it's all very good, 1711 01:40:00,960 --> 01:40:04,200 Speaker 1: but it is also I think worrying from the perspective 1712 01:40:04,320 --> 01:40:07,639 Speaker 1: of there's really no such thing as a quiet person 1713 01:40:07,720 --> 01:40:12,280 Speaker 1: to person conversation anymore. Even I think about how, in 1714 01:40:13,200 --> 01:40:17,040 Speaker 1: behind closed door legal proceedings do they make everybody take 1715 01:40:17,120 --> 01:40:20,479 Speaker 1: their cell phones out of their pockets and put them 1716 01:40:20,560 --> 01:40:24,280 Speaker 1: in some secure area. No, Well, then even the most 1717 01:40:25,400 --> 01:40:31,320 Speaker 1: intimate and legally protected, secure conversations behind uh courtroom doors 1718 01:40:31,360 --> 01:40:34,320 Speaker 1: in a closed court setting could very well be broadcast 1719 01:40:34,439 --> 01:40:37,320 Speaker 1: the whole world. And we've gotten more used to And 1720 01:40:37,640 --> 01:40:40,360 Speaker 1: this is touched on in the stat Miller piece, which 1721 01:40:40,520 --> 01:40:43,120 Speaker 1: was a pretty broad based It's this isn't a new idea, 1722 01:40:43,200 --> 01:40:45,559 Speaker 1: but it just got me thinking about it. This notion 1723 01:40:45,640 --> 01:40:48,719 Speaker 1: about should you assume you're always being recorded in every 1724 01:40:48,800 --> 01:40:52,120 Speaker 1: conversation you have with people? Um? And I think the 1725 01:40:52,160 --> 01:40:54,479 Speaker 1: answer is yes, by the way, and I wouldn't have 1726 01:40:54,520 --> 01:40:56,519 Speaker 1: said that four or five years ago, but I think 1727 01:40:56,520 --> 01:41:00,760 Speaker 1: the answer is yes now. Um. And I think that 1728 01:41:00,920 --> 01:41:04,639 Speaker 1: this means that people are more careful about their words. 1729 01:41:04,720 --> 01:41:08,400 Speaker 1: But it also has a really a chilling effect. You know. 1730 01:41:08,439 --> 01:41:10,519 Speaker 1: I don't like to overstate this, and I know this 1731 01:41:10,680 --> 01:41:12,840 Speaker 1: is a bit philosophical, but it's it's late in the show. 1732 01:41:12,880 --> 01:41:14,840 Speaker 1: It's third hour, so I'd like to spend some time 1733 01:41:15,280 --> 01:41:19,040 Speaker 1: thinking big thoughts with all of you, or making jokes 1734 01:41:19,040 --> 01:41:24,320 Speaker 1: about you know, Nancy Pelosi or or Bernie Sanders or something. 1735 01:41:25,000 --> 01:41:30,120 Speaker 1: But our behavior being modified so that it is more palatable. 1736 01:41:30,200 --> 01:41:32,760 Speaker 1: Should it be captured by the outside or captured and 1737 01:41:32,800 --> 01:41:35,120 Speaker 1: then shown to the outside world. Is a good thing 1738 01:41:35,240 --> 01:41:37,559 Speaker 1: up to a point. But I have to say, now, 1739 01:41:37,680 --> 01:41:40,599 Speaker 1: I always keep in mind as I'm walking on the street, 1740 01:41:41,160 --> 01:41:43,880 Speaker 1: is what I'm saying being captured by the person next 1741 01:41:43,960 --> 01:41:47,760 Speaker 1: to me who's on their smart device talking on the 1742 01:41:47,840 --> 01:41:49,960 Speaker 1: phone with their microphone up to their mouth and one 1743 01:41:50,000 --> 01:41:52,800 Speaker 1: in their ear. The answer is, if I'm speaking loudly 1744 01:41:52,880 --> 01:41:54,560 Speaker 1: enough and closely enough for them, Yeah, it probably is. 1745 01:41:55,720 --> 01:41:59,439 Speaker 1: When I have had coffees with friends of mine to 1746 01:41:59,520 --> 01:42:03,760 Speaker 1: discuss sensitive professional matters over the last you know, year 1747 01:42:03,920 --> 01:42:07,280 Speaker 1: or two, let's say, have I in a few instances 1748 01:42:07,360 --> 01:42:08,720 Speaker 1: had to I mean, I feel a little bit like 1749 01:42:08,800 --> 01:42:12,720 Speaker 1: I'm a paranoid x CIA analyst, which I suppose I am. 1750 01:42:13,240 --> 01:42:15,320 Speaker 1: But have I looked over and seen that somebody had 1751 01:42:15,560 --> 01:42:19,000 Speaker 1: a computer session open up where they were talking to 1752 01:42:19,120 --> 01:42:23,760 Speaker 1: someone and clearly transmitting that audio and even some some 1753 01:42:23,880 --> 01:42:28,000 Speaker 1: background video. Yeah, yeah, this is now happening all the time, 1754 01:42:28,120 --> 01:42:31,360 Speaker 1: and we're getting used to it without really taking on board. 1755 01:42:31,439 --> 01:42:34,840 Speaker 1: I think how much this is changing the way that 1756 01:42:34,960 --> 01:42:37,280 Speaker 1: we interact with each other, and how there is a 1757 01:42:37,640 --> 01:42:41,400 Speaker 1: threat to freedom here. There is a an inability to 1758 01:42:41,520 --> 01:42:45,120 Speaker 1: have anything that is considered a truly private space. Now, 1759 01:42:45,240 --> 01:42:50,880 Speaker 1: this is why I have been a little bit more circumspect, 1760 01:42:51,120 --> 01:42:55,680 Speaker 1: or perhaps a little more withholding in my praise or 1761 01:42:55,760 --> 01:42:59,360 Speaker 1: admiration than some other conservatives for some of the work 1762 01:42:59,479 --> 01:43:01,759 Speaker 1: of James O'Keefe, whom we've had on the show before 1763 01:43:01,960 --> 01:43:06,160 Speaker 1: and I think has done some very worthwhile investigative journalism 1764 01:43:06,160 --> 01:43:09,280 Speaker 1: in the past. But I do think there are limits 1765 01:43:09,400 --> 01:43:13,280 Speaker 1: to this, and I think that, for example, recording under 1766 01:43:13,320 --> 01:43:18,000 Speaker 1: the auspices of having a friendly offline conversation, recording a 1767 01:43:18,240 --> 01:43:21,280 Speaker 1: low level employee of any company and then using that 1768 01:43:21,520 --> 01:43:26,600 Speaker 1: as an example of the bias or systematic problems in 1769 01:43:26,680 --> 01:43:30,759 Speaker 1: the company. This this needs to be considered a tactic 1770 01:43:31,120 --> 01:43:35,639 Speaker 1: of last resort because people should be able to say 1771 01:43:35,680 --> 01:43:38,520 Speaker 1: to somebody, I mean, this is what makes me uncomfortable. 1772 01:43:39,120 --> 01:43:41,800 Speaker 1: I should be able to, in the privacy of a 1773 01:43:41,960 --> 01:43:46,000 Speaker 1: person to person conversation, share my thoughts about a company 1774 01:43:46,080 --> 01:43:48,760 Speaker 1: I work for, or the business I'm in, or any 1775 01:43:48,840 --> 01:43:52,240 Speaker 1: number of things without fear that that person is recording 1776 01:43:52,320 --> 01:43:57,560 Speaker 1: the conversation. Now, some states have prohibitions legal prohibitions on this, 1777 01:43:58,400 --> 01:44:02,320 Speaker 1: and they call it to party consent. I believe Florida 1778 01:44:02,360 --> 01:44:04,320 Speaker 1: and California are two of them. I think New Jersey 1779 01:44:04,520 --> 01:44:07,639 Speaker 1: is as well. We're both parties to a conversation. As 1780 01:44:07,640 --> 01:44:10,879 Speaker 1: a matter of law, criminal law have to be aware 1781 01:44:11,160 --> 01:44:13,960 Speaker 1: of the conversation being recorded. I should note this is 1782 01:44:14,160 --> 01:44:17,560 Speaker 1: really why on so many customer service calls that you 1783 01:44:17,600 --> 01:44:20,280 Speaker 1: will you will be involved, and they'll say this call 1784 01:44:20,439 --> 01:44:23,879 Speaker 1: maybe recorded for quality assurance. It's not about quality assurance. 1785 01:44:24,200 --> 01:44:26,640 Speaker 1: It's about covering themselves that they can record it and 1786 01:44:26,760 --> 01:44:33,360 Speaker 1: not be criminally liable for essentially wire tapping violations. But 1787 01:44:33,479 --> 01:44:36,240 Speaker 1: there are there are pluses and minuses to this. I mean, 1788 01:44:36,280 --> 01:44:39,080 Speaker 1: there are positives and there are drawbacks to living in 1789 01:44:39,160 --> 01:44:43,200 Speaker 1: a society where everything is possibly being recorded. I think 1790 01:44:43,280 --> 01:44:47,240 Speaker 1: it's the single biggest reason for the overall drop in 1791 01:44:47,400 --> 01:44:50,160 Speaker 1: crime in this country. And it's never attributed to this 1792 01:44:50,400 --> 01:44:56,519 Speaker 1: because the technology has changed without the measurements of crime changing, right, 1793 01:44:56,560 --> 01:44:59,960 Speaker 1: So our phones and all this ubiquitous technology that's out 1794 01:45:00,120 --> 01:45:03,719 Speaker 1: there and the connectivity of our communications has just gotten 1795 01:45:03,760 --> 01:45:07,000 Speaker 1: better and better and smaller and smaller. And they're still 1796 01:45:07,080 --> 01:45:09,560 Speaker 1: just saying, well, how many homicides per capita, how you know, 1797 01:45:09,600 --> 01:45:13,360 Speaker 1: how many burglaries, how many robberies, And we see it 1798 01:45:13,479 --> 01:45:15,759 Speaker 1: going down, and there's a lot of struggle to explain 1799 01:45:15,880 --> 01:45:19,000 Speaker 1: why that is. And people have all kinds of theories. 1800 01:45:19,479 --> 01:45:22,760 Speaker 1: My theory is that you think about what it would 1801 01:45:22,840 --> 01:45:28,200 Speaker 1: be like if you saw somebody in on the street 1802 01:45:28,560 --> 01:45:30,320 Speaker 1: in a you in a city. Let's just say it's 1803 01:45:30,320 --> 01:45:32,799 Speaker 1: a city to make this easy, and you saw somebody 1804 01:45:32,920 --> 01:45:36,960 Speaker 1: getting uh stabbed and robbed in the middle of the street. 1805 01:45:37,800 --> 01:45:41,320 Speaker 1: You had to yell for help. Maybe there's a cop 1806 01:45:41,439 --> 01:45:44,200 Speaker 1: in ear shot. Almost you know, nine times out of 1807 01:45:44,240 --> 01:45:46,840 Speaker 1: ten there wouldn't be right. You're just making this up, 1808 01:45:46,880 --> 01:45:48,920 Speaker 1: but I'm guessing you'd have to run and get to 1809 01:45:49,040 --> 01:45:52,960 Speaker 1: a pay phone, call one and that person. When the 1810 01:45:53,000 --> 01:45:55,760 Speaker 1: police showed up, they knew that nobody there had a 1811 01:45:55,840 --> 01:45:58,000 Speaker 1: camera on them. They knew that they could say, oh, 1812 01:45:58,120 --> 01:46:00,080 Speaker 1: it was a dispute. I didn't rob him. He was 1813 01:46:00,120 --> 01:46:02,400 Speaker 1: trying to rob me, and I defended myself with a knife. 1814 01:46:02,520 --> 01:46:07,280 Speaker 1: And it's changed human behavior because now whenever something crazy 1815 01:46:07,320 --> 01:46:09,680 Speaker 1: starts to having people pull out their phones, they videotape it. 1816 01:46:09,760 --> 01:46:12,120 Speaker 1: They can share that with police, and we all know 1817 01:46:12,280 --> 01:46:15,920 Speaker 1: that everybody has this now, so it's over. I think 1818 01:46:15,960 --> 01:46:19,360 Speaker 1: it's overwhelmingly a good thing, but it is changing the 1819 01:46:19,439 --> 01:46:21,960 Speaker 1: way we interact with each other and the permanence of everything. 1820 01:46:22,000 --> 01:46:25,080 Speaker 1: That's on the internet now as well. Is something else 1821 01:46:25,120 --> 01:46:26,360 Speaker 1: that we should keep in mind. I mean, I'm just 1822 01:46:26,680 --> 01:46:29,160 Speaker 1: I'm thankful that when I was in college, for example, 1823 01:46:29,680 --> 01:46:32,280 Speaker 1: I didn't have to think about whether people around me 1824 01:46:32,360 --> 01:46:35,960 Speaker 1: all had video cameras out, because you know, I don't 1825 01:46:35,960 --> 01:46:37,960 Speaker 1: think there's that many of us that if we were 1826 01:46:38,600 --> 01:46:40,600 Speaker 1: uh doing a keg stand, which for those of you 1827 01:46:40,680 --> 01:46:42,640 Speaker 1: are unfamiliar, is when people hold your feet up in 1828 01:46:42,680 --> 01:46:46,280 Speaker 1: the air and you take the actual keg and the 1829 01:46:46,479 --> 01:46:48,560 Speaker 1: hose from it and just drink directly from it and 1830 01:46:48,640 --> 01:46:51,920 Speaker 1: are held upside down to get additional beer flow going. 1831 01:46:52,400 --> 01:46:55,639 Speaker 1: I don't think anybody looks particularly mature or cool during 1832 01:46:55,640 --> 01:46:58,000 Speaker 1: a keg stand of I'm sure a lot of college 1833 01:46:58,080 --> 01:47:00,519 Speaker 1: kids think they do, and I certainly wouldn't want future 1834 01:47:00,560 --> 01:47:05,479 Speaker 1: employers to see Mike Keag standing days from Amherst and 1835 01:47:05,800 --> 01:47:08,120 Speaker 1: and make judgments about what I'm like, you know, twenty 1836 01:47:08,240 --> 01:47:11,040 Speaker 1: years later now as a result. But ultimately, I also 1837 01:47:11,160 --> 01:47:13,840 Speaker 1: think that there needs to be a change in how 1838 01:47:13,960 --> 01:47:19,240 Speaker 1: we assess some of this stuff. Uh. Private conversations should 1839 01:47:19,280 --> 01:47:24,320 Speaker 1: still be allowable, and private conversations should be given greater 1840 01:47:24,439 --> 01:47:27,000 Speaker 1: leeway than what is intentionally put out there in public 1841 01:47:27,240 --> 01:47:29,640 Speaker 1: and I know that hasn't really been the case for 1842 01:47:30,000 --> 01:47:32,360 Speaker 1: some of what we've seen, but I'm just talking about 1843 01:47:32,400 --> 01:47:36,000 Speaker 1: in general, we should give a little more leeway to 1844 01:47:36,080 --> 01:47:39,240 Speaker 1: somebody who say, leaves their cell phone on by accident 1845 01:47:39,320 --> 01:47:42,400 Speaker 1: and transmits, uh, you know how much they hate their 1846 01:47:42,439 --> 01:47:44,400 Speaker 1: boss to the whole world. Although I don't know if 1847 01:47:44,439 --> 01:47:48,000 Speaker 1: the boss would give them leeway then what is openly shared. 1848 01:47:48,080 --> 01:47:49,720 Speaker 1: Although I don't know if we can really make these 1849 01:47:49,760 --> 01:47:52,120 Speaker 1: distinctions or we're willing to as a society yet, but 1850 01:47:52,760 --> 01:47:55,160 Speaker 1: it's it is troubling to me that we all live 1851 01:47:55,439 --> 01:48:00,360 Speaker 1: in a surveillance state that the Stasi themselves could not 1852 01:48:00,479 --> 01:48:03,760 Speaker 1: have dreamed of in the nineteen fifties, and we've done 1853 01:48:03,800 --> 01:48:07,519 Speaker 1: it to ourselves. Everybody, We've done it to ourselves. I'll 1854 01:48:07,560 --> 01:48:09,600 Speaker 1: be back with happier thoughts right after this. Stay with me, 1855 01:48:10,040 --> 01:48:13,679 Speaker 1: Welcome back to him. I had a pretty uh mellow weekend, 1856 01:48:13,760 --> 01:48:15,960 Speaker 1: I guess you could call it on the positive side 1857 01:48:16,000 --> 01:48:18,240 Speaker 1: of things. Came down on the cold. I still have 1858 01:48:18,360 --> 01:48:21,200 Speaker 1: a cold. If you hear me sounding very weird on 1859 01:48:21,240 --> 01:48:23,280 Speaker 1: the radio later this week, it's because I tend to 1860 01:48:23,360 --> 01:48:26,800 Speaker 1: be somebody who my colds going phases, and so I 1861 01:48:26,880 --> 01:48:31,439 Speaker 1: may be in like deep, very deep voice phase in 1862 01:48:31,520 --> 01:48:33,680 Speaker 1: a day or two is my guests as everything kind 1863 01:48:33,680 --> 01:48:36,280 Speaker 1: of runs its course and and my throat gets all 1864 01:48:36,880 --> 01:48:42,360 Speaker 1: messed up. But anyway, I had a great recipe excursion 1865 01:48:42,560 --> 01:48:48,719 Speaker 1: with Miss Molly. We made pulled chicken with salsa salsa 1866 01:48:48,840 --> 01:48:53,599 Speaker 1: verda crama I think, or cream salsa verida, I don't 1867 01:48:53,600 --> 01:48:56,240 Speaker 1: know whatever. It was like green cream sauce. It was amazing, 1868 01:48:57,000 --> 01:49:01,400 Speaker 1: highly highly recommend and it's pretty much you just whisk 1869 01:49:01,479 --> 01:49:04,080 Speaker 1: in some cream cheese with some sour cream with some 1870 01:49:04,200 --> 01:49:06,800 Speaker 1: homemade salt sa verde, and then you make sure you 1871 01:49:06,880 --> 01:49:09,080 Speaker 1: have some very moist pulled chicken and you just mix 1872 01:49:09,160 --> 01:49:13,880 Speaker 1: it all together and boom. It was really good. It 1873 01:49:14,040 --> 01:49:15,720 Speaker 1: was very very good. But other than that, I was 1874 01:49:16,080 --> 01:49:19,320 Speaker 1: pretty much just trying to rest over the weekend and 1875 01:49:19,360 --> 01:49:23,400 Speaker 1: recuperate for what is the single most important part of 1876 01:49:23,439 --> 01:49:27,040 Speaker 1: my upcoming week which is always this radio show. I 1877 01:49:27,120 --> 01:49:30,720 Speaker 1: had a chance to check out some new offerings on 1878 01:49:30,880 --> 01:49:33,400 Speaker 1: the television over the Why am I speaking like some 1879 01:49:33,479 --> 01:49:36,439 Speaker 1: weird robot. I watched some new stuff over the weekend. Yeah, 1880 01:49:36,479 --> 01:49:40,200 Speaker 1: I didn't get to Narco's Season three just yet, but 1881 01:49:40,400 --> 01:49:43,800 Speaker 1: I'm hoping to get get into that I've heard it's 1882 01:49:43,800 --> 01:49:46,160 Speaker 1: actually maybe the best season. I checked out a show 1883 01:49:46,200 --> 01:49:49,759 Speaker 1: called Berlin Station, A little boring, A little boring, supposed 1884 01:49:49,760 --> 01:49:51,240 Speaker 1: to be supposed to be a c I. A show 1885 01:49:52,280 --> 01:49:54,120 Speaker 1: I didn't really I didn't really care for it, to 1886 01:49:54,200 --> 01:49:56,439 Speaker 1: be honest with you. I thought it was really slow 1887 01:49:56,600 --> 01:49:59,200 Speaker 1: and the characters were forgettable, Like I couldn't even tell 1888 01:49:59,240 --> 01:50:01,840 Speaker 1: you about any of the characters after the first episode, 1889 01:50:02,320 --> 01:50:05,640 Speaker 1: which is not a good sign for a show. I 1890 01:50:05,720 --> 01:50:10,240 Speaker 1: had never seen the movie The Beguiled. Molly made watch 1891 01:50:10,360 --> 01:50:13,760 Speaker 1: that one, which had Colin Ferrell in it, and it's 1892 01:50:13,800 --> 01:50:16,120 Speaker 1: just sort of depressing. I think it's a remake of 1893 01:50:16,200 --> 01:50:19,320 Speaker 1: a movie with Clint Eastwood from the seventies of Memory Serves. 1894 01:50:20,040 --> 01:50:23,000 Speaker 1: But it's a depressing movie. It's Civil War. I don't know, 1895 01:50:23,280 --> 01:50:26,080 Speaker 1: do not recommend. I did not enjoy it. And then 1896 01:50:26,120 --> 01:50:28,960 Speaker 1: I saw The Spider Man, the most recent Spider Man 1897 01:50:29,120 --> 01:50:33,040 Speaker 1: from I think, which was okay, but c g I. 1898 01:50:33,560 --> 01:50:37,720 Speaker 1: I'm on a one person crusade to get which means 1899 01:50:37,720 --> 01:50:39,840 Speaker 1: that I'm never gonna get anywhere with this. But there's 1900 01:50:39,880 --> 01:50:41,880 Speaker 1: just so much c g I all the time. I 1901 01:50:42,000 --> 01:50:44,679 Speaker 1: really wish that there would be more of a focus 1902 01:50:44,760 --> 01:50:48,360 Speaker 1: on plot and storyline and acting and less on, how 1903 01:50:48,400 --> 01:50:52,360 Speaker 1: do we make this the most crazy explosion on screen 1904 01:50:52,560 --> 01:50:54,920 Speaker 1: with the most like lasers firing out of it at 1905 01:50:54,960 --> 01:50:58,719 Speaker 1: once of anything in the history of all movies, always forever, 1906 01:50:59,439 --> 01:51:02,680 Speaker 1: which to me seems to be the primary characteristic these 1907 01:51:02,760 --> 01:51:07,000 Speaker 1: days of a lot of the primary defining characteristic of 1908 01:51:07,080 --> 01:51:09,960 Speaker 1: a lot of these big budget films that come out. 1909 01:51:10,000 --> 01:51:11,720 Speaker 1: And there were some pretty good stuff overall in the 1910 01:51:11,720 --> 01:51:14,200 Speaker 1: Spider Man movie, you know, they had some good ideas, 1911 01:51:14,280 --> 01:51:18,280 Speaker 1: but a lot of it looks like a computer game 1912 01:51:18,320 --> 01:51:20,080 Speaker 1: after a while, and I just think that that's bad. 1913 01:51:20,439 --> 01:51:22,640 Speaker 1: Jaws was also on recently, and you know what's so 1914 01:51:22,720 --> 01:51:25,400 Speaker 1: great about John's There was no c g I. There 1915 01:51:25,520 --> 01:51:28,240 Speaker 1: was no computer generated imagery, so they had to use 1916 01:51:28,320 --> 01:51:34,240 Speaker 1: real stuff and even a rubbery, fake looking shark in 1917 01:51:34,360 --> 01:51:37,519 Speaker 1: the water. But that's an actual thing. Is I think, 1918 01:51:37,600 --> 01:51:41,160 Speaker 1: a much more compelling visual and much better and is 1919 01:51:41,200 --> 01:51:43,400 Speaker 1: the reason Jaws really stands up, I think as a 1920 01:51:43,720 --> 01:51:48,000 Speaker 1: work of art than some c g I nonsense. So 1921 01:51:48,520 --> 01:51:50,080 Speaker 1: that those are my thoughts from the weekend on that. 1922 01:51:51,000 --> 01:51:52,720 Speaker 1: Hoping to get in a history deep dive this week, 1923 01:51:52,800 --> 01:51:57,040 Speaker 1: please do share the show with a friend. 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