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Speaker 1: Welcome into the Lounge presented by DraftKings. I'm Ryan Mink

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Speaker 1: here with Garrett Downing, and we are going to break down,

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Speaker 1: from top to bottom, our ranking of the Ravens positions

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Speaker 1: of need.

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Speaker 2: And so Garrett and I have each made our list.

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Speaker 1: We have some consensus on the bottom six, but the

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Speaker 1: top four are pretty different from each other. So we're

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Speaker 1: going to debate this and why we would put one

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Speaker 1: need necessarily above the other. And Garrett, let's go ahead

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Speaker 1: and jump into it. What is your number one position

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Speaker 1: of need heading into the off season.

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Speaker 3: I look at the offensive line, okay, and I think

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Speaker 3: the biggest reason that I have the offensive line at

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Speaker 3: the top of the list is that the Ravens are

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Speaker 3: in a situation where they have two starters pending to

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Speaker 3: hit free agency. That's left tackle Ronnie Stanley and starting

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Speaker 3: left guard of this year Pat McCarey, who's also he

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Speaker 3: kind of counts as two players in some regards because

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Speaker 3: he was certain starting left guard and your sixth offensive

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Speaker 3: linemen backing up every position along the line. So they

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Speaker 3: have two big free agency situations pending, and so you

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Speaker 3: potentially could lose both both guys and you're going into

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Speaker 3: the offseason looking at it as you need to replace

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Speaker 3: two starters along that group, and it's not just like

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Speaker 3: you're losing any players challenging, but it's not just that

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Speaker 3: you're losing two starters.

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Speaker 4: You have to replace. Ronnie.

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Speaker 3: Stanley's coming off a Pro Bowl season, resurgent year, and

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Speaker 3: he's going to get a really big contract either from

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Speaker 3: the Ravens or somebody else. This offseason he played some

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Speaker 3: of his best football, his best football in years, and

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Speaker 3: some of the best of his career. Improved that he's

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Speaker 3: still one of the best tackles in the game despite

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Speaker 3: all the injuries.

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Speaker 2: He's worked his way back and he's the top offensive

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Speaker 2: tackle in the market.

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Speaker 1: Yep, so top offensive tackle, you're the top person at

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Speaker 1: your position.

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Speaker 2: That's a good position to be in going into free agency.

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Speaker 3: Particularly when it's a left tackle position, which is already

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Speaker 3: one of the highest page of spots on the field.

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Speaker 3: So he's going to get a really nice contract, and

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Speaker 3: the Ravens could be in a situation where they have

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Speaker 3: to find a replacement. They have to remake the left

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 3: They could do that in the draft, they could try

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Speaker 3: free agency but then, as we just mentioned, free agent

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Speaker 3: tackles are typically expensive. Free agent guards not as much

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Speaker 3: as tackles, but if you're getting one of the top

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Speaker 4: And so then.

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Speaker 3: The options at first blush would be at left guard.

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Speaker 3: You could have like an Andrew Voorheves who could potentially

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Speaker 4: He won the job when the job out of the

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Speaker 4: gate last year, and then.

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Speaker 1: I would expect him to be a leading contender for

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Speaker 3: I definitely would. I think the more challenging piece is

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Speaker 3: what you do at left tackle. You have Roger rose Garden,

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Speaker 3: and then you also have somebody who's stepping into that

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Speaker 3: that position in a few years. He did it early

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Speaker 2: Yet I think I have a.

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Speaker 1: Lot of confidence in Roger and his a is just

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Speaker 1: I've done it before. If that's what they want for me, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm game. Like this is a talented player who has

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Speaker 1: the athleticism certainly to play left tackle, got really valuable

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Speaker 1: you say, Roger, you're going to be your left tackle,

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Speaker 1: he is going to work at that. And I think

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Speaker 2: I really do.

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Speaker 4: I'm with you.

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Speaker 3: I think Roger's really good. And I even I go

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Speaker 3: back to our first interview with him last year. We

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Speaker 3: notion that he could eventually be a left tackle in

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Speaker 4: So I think he could do it. But then that

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Speaker 3: You have to go find somebody, and we spent all

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Speaker 3: the time last year talking about, man, what the Ravens

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Speaker 3: in the draft, and finding a starting tackle is challenging,

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Speaker 3: So like you're gonna if Ronnie.

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Speaker 1: Leaves the Ravens, though, I think you have to give

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Speaker 1: him credit. It worked, right, Like there were a lot

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Speaker 1: of questions about whether this strategy, this pass offseason to

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Speaker 1: to give them their props. You have to give their kudos,

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Speaker 1: like and that gives you know, should give fans more

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Speaker 2: Can you find another starting tackle?

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Speaker 1: Now? You know, Roger Rosegarten was an immediate starter, but

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Speaker 1: week four, it's pretty darn good for a rookie to

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Speaker 1: step in there. The Ravens have done it previously with

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Speaker 1: the Orleanno Brown, you know, like they have a track

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Speaker 1: record of finding good quality offensive tackles who can play

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Speaker 1: and contribute and start as rookies. And so I think

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Speaker 1: that you know, last year's phase one of this offensive

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Speaker 1: into the offseason say and yeah, we can do this again.

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Speaker 1: I'm with you, Like you have two good players that

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Speaker 1: So I'm with you, And not only is it you

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Speaker 1: have to find solutions, but you want to keep getting better,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean? And part of that for

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Speaker 1: the offensive line, I think is the guys that stepped

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Speaker 1: Right Tyle Linderbaum's already a two time pro bow He's

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Speaker 1: only better. Obviously, if you musa left tackle, that adds

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the other element of the offensive line, and the

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Speaker 4: Who was your six offense time who?

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Speaker 1: I think Josh Jones could actually be a key part

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Speaker 2: Here hope it can work out.

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Speaker 1: But if they can, I think that Josh Jones kind

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Speaker 1: You can also step in at guard until somebody that

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And honestly, the potential is there for tackle too.

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Speaker 2: Well, That's what I'm saying. He could start at right tackle, he.

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Speaker 3: I think that Jones could be resigned. Ben Cleveland's also

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Speaker 3: upending free agent. But so they have basically four players

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Speaker 4: You can keep some of them, you can't keep all

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Speaker 3: And that's why I had O line and number one,

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Speaker 3: what was your top need?

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Speaker 1: And I know that on the surface, this doesn't really

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Speaker 1: Areas Washington is a restrictive free agent, but I certainly

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Speaker 1: But I think that the Ravens a really want to

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Speaker 1: Eric Takasa made that very clear in the season ending

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Speaker 1: also key for Kyle Hamilton and putting him in the

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Speaker 1: My goodness, gracious, need I say more? Right?

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Speaker 2: Like, he can do it all.

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Speaker 1: But that's exactly why you want him to be in

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Speaker 1: You know, I think that in some ways the Ravens

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Speaker 1: being kind of forced to move him back into a

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Speaker 1: you know, And it was the right move because the

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Speaker 1: secondary and that's certainly paid off. But if you're talking

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Speaker 3: When you look at how the Ravens have built their teams,

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Speaker 3: I think that, like, based on what the Ravens have said,

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Speaker 3: You can have a plug and play left tackle at

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Speaker 2: What are you taking, right.

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Speaker 1: I'm taking ten times out of I would take the tackle.

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Speaker 1: I would take the tackle in that scenario. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: One of the guys you have there is like the

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Speaker 1: I feel you. I I totally feel you. So, I

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Speaker 1: You got the best player in the world back. You know,

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Speaker 4: It's kind of like the investment in safety.

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Speaker 3: It's not that the need at safety is so great

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Speaker 2: That impacts other positions. Elevates.

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Speaker 1: It also impacts cornerback, right because if Kyle Heulson isn't

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Speaker 1: then is that Marlon Humphrey that plays that? And if

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Speaker 4: They definitely are. Well, look, I had safety as my

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Speaker 3: Yeah you had I had as my third No, you didn't.

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Speaker 4: Honestly, you didn't talk me into it.

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Speaker 3: with offensive line number one, you had safety. I had

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Speaker 4: I really did. I'm just like, you have your top

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Speaker 3: So I really I honestly struggle with that, while also

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Speaker 3: Like I definitely expect that. And so to your point

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Speaker 4: They're both coming back next year. Oways playing on the

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Speaker 4: And so I think that if the.

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Speaker 1: everybody's back. Odelfe always back, Kyle Van Noise back, Tavius

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Speaker 2: They're all back.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and so and so it's really more of an

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Speaker 1: Where guys, I mean, not a lot of teams, not

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Speaker 3: The last time it happened for the Ravens was Torell

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Speaker 1: But again, like what does that take is that you know,

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Speaker 1: Right He always in his fifth year on his fifth

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Speaker 3: And your number two need when you go through, your

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Speaker 3: You went safety and O line. I went O line

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Speaker 3: Again I struggled even with that. I know you had

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and this is tied in to into safety conversation

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Speaker 1: Stevens and stepping in for him at times at the

442
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Speaker 1: down the stretch last season. He's also a pending free agent,

443
00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:44,800
Speaker 1: so you really have an opening for a starter there.

444
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Speaker 2: Now.

445
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Speaker 1: You know there's players like Jellen armor Davis and and TJ.

446
00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:52,080
Speaker 1: Tampa who the Ravens drafted in the fourth round last season,

447
00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:54,800
Speaker 1: who you know could step into that. That's a little

448
00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:57,280
Speaker 1: bit more of a projection, you know, considering TJ. Tampa

449
00:20:57,359 --> 00:20:59,240
Speaker 1: really didn't get much playing time as a rookie.

450
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Speaker 2: Jalen M.

451
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Speaker 1: Davis, I think everybody feels like when he's healthy, like

452
00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:04,720
Speaker 1: they really like what they see in practicing on the

453
00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:06,720
Speaker 1: field and in games too when he's healthy, but that's

454
00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:07,320
Speaker 1: been a struggle.

455
00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:09,720
Speaker 2: So it's a more of a projection for him.

456
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Speaker 1: But as we've seen, the Ravens invest in their secondary,

457
00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:18,520
Speaker 1: they invest a corner, they invest in safety, and really,

458
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Speaker 1: when we're talking about what held the Ravens defense back,

459
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Speaker 1: for the majority of last season.

460
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Speaker 2: It was their pass coverage that was the issue. And

461
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Speaker 2: so I don't.

462
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Speaker 1: Think that they they certainly don't want to take a

463
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Speaker 1: step back in that regard with the way that you know,

464
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Speaker 1: the momentum that they build over the second court second

465
00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:37,960
Speaker 1: half of the season, the need, the immediate need. You know,

466
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Speaker 1: if you're talking Marlon back outside and Nate Wiggins, you

467
00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:44,040
Speaker 1: have your two starters now everybody everybody knows you need

468
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Speaker 1: at least three starters.

469
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Speaker 2: Yeah, at cornerback.

470
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Speaker 1: Yeah, And like I've been saying, like I love Marlon

471
00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:53,600
Speaker 1: Humphrey has played some of his best football in his

472
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Speaker 1: career when he is in this slot close to the action.

473
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Speaker 3: You know, you're also drafting a third safety, so you're

474
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Speaker 3: going to have Hamilton down that everyone's playing in the middle.

475
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Speaker 2: Of field now, right, I mean that's kind of the thing.

476
00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:06,639
Speaker 1: It's like, do you this corner get my priority here

477
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Speaker 1: in that safety position.

478
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Speaker 4: That they are intertwined, Like you said, you need.

479
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Speaker 1: Both honestly, but like how much prior to you Yeah,

480
00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:16,960
Speaker 1: you could go high on either one of them. You

481
00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:19,119
Speaker 1: could take a first round safety if you really wanted to,

482
00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:22,919
Speaker 1: or probably more likely a first round corner but you

483
00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:26,520
Speaker 1: know they play into each other. But my point is, like,

484
00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:29,480
Speaker 1: you need multiple bodies in the secondary, you need multiple

485
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Speaker 1: impact players.

486
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Speaker 3: It would not shock me if the Ravens took a

487
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Speaker 3: first round corner again. It just would not surprise me,

488
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Speaker 3: both for the short term and the long term, and

489
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Speaker 3: basically if it played out similar to how it was

490
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Speaker 3: with Nate Wiggins this year. We're early in the year,

491
00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:45,200
Speaker 3: his role was pretty limited, and it just gradually increased

492
00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:47,360
Speaker 3: throughout the season, and by the end of the year

493
00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:49,320
Speaker 3: he was playing almost one hundred percent of the snaps.

494
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Speaker 3: And you saw the early signs with Wiggins. This guy

495
00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:56,119
Speaker 3: can be a true lockdown cover corner, and he just

496
00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:58,280
Speaker 3: got better and better as the year went along, and

497
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Speaker 3: then he was trusted with more responsibilit I could see

498
00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:03,080
Speaker 3: a similar situation if you take a first round corner

499
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Speaker 3: this year, where hey, you have your two starters and

500
00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:08,240
Speaker 3: Marlin and Nate Wiggins. He's going to have a limited role.

501
00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:10,920
Speaker 3: You then can move Marlin into the slot if you want.

502
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Speaker 3: Depends of course what happens at the safety situation. So

503
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Speaker 3: I could see cornerback definitely, the Ravens are going to

504
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Speaker 3: draft a cornerback.

505
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Speaker 4: They do like every single year. They often draft multiple cornerbacks.

506
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Speaker 4: They did that last year.

507
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Speaker 2: Another position, you have to keep it like, you.

508
00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:26,679
Speaker 3: Keep replenishing there. So I think the Ravens are going

509
00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:28,960
Speaker 3: to add at the cornerback position, and.

510
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Speaker 4: I think I'm with you.

511
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Speaker 3: I think cornerback is I think it's important when not

512
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Speaker 3: rule it out as again as a first round pick.

513
00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:40,760
Speaker 3: I also think that maybe you could, from a free

514
00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:44,040
Speaker 3: agency standpoint, go the route of what you did, because

515
00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:45,960
Speaker 3: I had corners my fourth need go.

516
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Speaker 4: The route of what you did a couple of years ago.

517
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Speaker 3: I mean, this worked out perfectly, But the Ravens went

518
00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:57,199
Speaker 3: and signed Ronald Darby, who was really skillful, like he

519
00:23:57,280 --> 00:23:58,960
Speaker 3: was a good player, but they got him on the cheek.

520
00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:01,000
Speaker 3: He was coming off an injury and they got him

521
00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:03,000
Speaker 3: for not much money, and then he went and got

522
00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:05,280
Speaker 3: a nice contract and free agency, if you could find

523
00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:07,040
Speaker 3: like a veteran player, maybe it's Trueavious White.

524
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Speaker 2: That's what I was just about to say.

525
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Speaker 1: It would not surprise me if the Ravens retained Trudeavious

526
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Speaker 1: White at all.

527
00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:13,760
Speaker 2: I mean, obviously they like him. They traded for him

528
00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:14,399
Speaker 2: at mid season.

529
00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:16,520
Speaker 3: They traded for him, and then he was playing really

530
00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:19,240
Speaker 3: important snaps in the dios around of the playoffs.

531
00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:21,639
Speaker 2: Exactly, I mean, and I think he played well.

532
00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:25,920
Speaker 1: And so that's another player that I think, what does

533
00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:28,960
Speaker 1: his market look like? You know, he's kind of been

534
00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:32,840
Speaker 1: on multiple teams in recent years. I don't know what

535
00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:34,480
Speaker 1: his market would look like, but I think it could

536
00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:37,600
Speaker 1: make sense for both sides to reach an agreement. It's

537
00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:40,199
Speaker 1: a little bit to me similar to the Josh Jones

538
00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:43,840
Speaker 1: kind of, you know, retaining a player that has starting

539
00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:46,440
Speaker 1: experience that you feel like, you know, Trudavious White can

540
00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:47,920
Speaker 1: go out there and he could be the starter opposite

541
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Speaker 1: Nate Wiggins. Obviously, with Marlon Hlprey on the field, he

542
00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:54,320
Speaker 1: could he could step in and do that week one

543
00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:56,040
Speaker 1: next season. I feel really confident about that. And you

544
00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:58,480
Speaker 1: can still draft another cornerback, you know, and a young

545
00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:01,840
Speaker 1: player there. So I think that would really take some

546
00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:06,880
Speaker 1: of the the urgency off of that need to have

547
00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:09,479
Speaker 1: a veteran who you know can play that position.

548
00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:10,480
Speaker 2: I think it can makes sense.

549
00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:13,200
Speaker 3: I think, like Ozzie Knew, some would often talk about

550
00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:15,800
Speaker 3: an Eric I believe has the same philosophy, like in

551
00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:17,320
Speaker 3: a perfect world, you want to patch up all the

552
00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:18,639
Speaker 3: different holes you have going into.

553
00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:21,960
Speaker 2: The cross them all off so direction.

554
00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:23,040
Speaker 3: Then you just go into the draft and you take

555
00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:25,840
Speaker 3: the best player rather than trying to shoehorn somebody into it.

556
00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:30,160
Speaker 3: This great need, so retaining Tredevious White I think would.

557
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:31,359
Speaker 4: Really help in that area.

558
00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:35,120
Speaker 3: So just to recap our top my top four, we're

559
00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:40,000
Speaker 3: offensive line, outside linebacker, safety, than cornerback, and your top

560
00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:44,560
Speaker 3: four we're safety, offensive line, cornerback, and an outside linebacker.

561
00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:45,720
Speaker 2: That's correct, that's the four.

562
00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:47,560
Speaker 3: So we're going to take a quick break. When we

563
00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:49,880
Speaker 3: come back, we'll dive into the rest of our knees

564
00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:52,720
Speaker 3: and we're actually aligned. Okay, we're aligned the rest of

565
00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:54,200
Speaker 3: the way. We were not on the same page for

566
00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:56,000
Speaker 3: the top four, but we are aligned the rest of

567
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Speaker 3: the way. So we'll dive into that when we come back.

568
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Speaker 3: You're listening to the Lounge Pot casts. We're coming to

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572
00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:15,359
Speaker 3: through ten, and we both have the same for the

573
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Speaker 3: rest of the rest of these. At five, we have

574
00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:22,520
Speaker 3: defensive line and for me, defensive line when I was watching.

575
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Speaker 4: We talked about it after the Super Bowl.

576
00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:26,840
Speaker 3: You watched that Super Bowl, you saw the way the

577
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:29,840
Speaker 3: Eagles defensive front controlled the game, and you're like, yeah,

578
00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:30,600
Speaker 3: I like that.

579
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Speaker 4: I want some more of that.

580
00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:35,640
Speaker 3: And I honestly like when I was going through this list,

581
00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:38,840
Speaker 3: I initially had defensive line higher. But the Ravens have

582
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Speaker 3: They have nom De Mattabika, they have Travis Jones, so

583
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:46,040
Speaker 3: you have those. Washington, they have rogerck Washington, but they

584
00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:50,560
Speaker 3: have questions elsewhere. Brent Urban free agent Michael Pierce. We'll

585
00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:52,400
Speaker 3: see if he wants to continue playing. He's talked about

586
00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:53,960
Speaker 3: retiring in the past, so we'll see if he wants

587
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:58,119
Speaker 3: to keep it going. So there's questions there with some

588
00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:00,320
Speaker 3: of the veteran players and if you could get a

589
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:03,040
Speaker 3: defensive end. The Ravens were reportedly trying to trade for

590
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:05,240
Speaker 3: Kalays Campbell at the deadline last year, so they wanted

591
00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:08,520
Speaker 3: to inject that type of a player into this defensive

592
00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:11,880
Speaker 3: front late in the season. So they clearly, based on reports,

593
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,320
Speaker 3: were interesting and adding to that group, even though they

594
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:18,480
Speaker 3: had those pieces last year. So I put I put

595
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:21,359
Speaker 3: a priority on that defensive front, and I think that

596
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:23,600
Speaker 3: defensive end is probably the position that I look at.

597
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:26,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would agree. I think that it is an

598
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:27,040
Speaker 2: area of need.

599
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:30,239
Speaker 1: And you know, you another, I feel like, now I'm

600
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:32,040
Speaker 1: saying this about every single position, but you have to

601
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:35,159
Speaker 1: keep adding players, you have to keep you know, developing

602
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:38,920
Speaker 1: these guys, and I do put it at high need. Also,

603
00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 1: you know, you rotate, you rotate on your defensive line.

604
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:43,480
Speaker 1: You need deptth know one's playing one hundred percent of

605
00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:45,080
Speaker 1: the say exactly, you need depth there.

606
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:51,160
Speaker 2: And yeah, a really strong.

607
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:54,840
Speaker 1: Defensive end an upgrade there that can be kind of

608
00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:58,000
Speaker 1: a game changer. I think could again have a more

609
00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:00,399
Speaker 1: of a wide reaching impact on this defense, really take

610
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:02,560
Speaker 1: it to the next level. It's kind of like that

611
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:07,399
Speaker 1: outside linebacker that we're talking about, right, and so, uh yeah, it.

612
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:09,639
Speaker 2: Would not surprise me.

613
00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:11,360
Speaker 1: And this won't be the It's not the first time

614
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:13,400
Speaker 1: and it won't be the last time that I talk

615
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:16,600
Speaker 1: about this. That defensive line, I think is like a sneaky,

616
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 1: under the radar, potential first round pick kind of position

617
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:20,560
Speaker 1: for the Ravens.

618
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:24,040
Speaker 3: You're going to say that for like ten different positions, Hey,

619
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:26,760
Speaker 3: it will be the last. Every it's either it's either

620
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:29,239
Speaker 3: They're likely to do this wouldn't shock me.

621
00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:30,639
Speaker 2: If they're going to do different tiers.

622
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:32,359
Speaker 4: Here's here's the sneaky.

623
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Speaker 3: First course is different than sneaky. So we the radars

624
00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:39,640
Speaker 3: under the radar, yep, yep.

625
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:42,520
Speaker 4: Likely, this is a likely first round pick. So we

626
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:43,720
Speaker 4: got him all. We got it all time.

627
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:45,640
Speaker 2: We can come up with the categories later on, we

628
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:46,520
Speaker 2: can go through the whole thing.

629
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Speaker 4: I'll do it.

630
00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:48,239
Speaker 2: I'll do it.

631
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:50,840
Speaker 3: So as of now, defensive line is the dark horse

632
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:54,080
Speaker 3: first round pick. I don't think that that's crazy either,

633
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:55,800
Speaker 3: to be honest with you, especially if.

634
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:59,920
Speaker 4: You have somebody.

635
00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:01,280
Speaker 3: I think the teams are going to look at what

636
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 3: the Eagles did and defensive lineman might be flying off

637
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:05,160
Speaker 3: the board a little bit earlier this year because it's

638
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:06,840
Speaker 3: a copycat league and people are gonna be like that

639
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 3: was good.

640
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:10,280
Speaker 1: Well, the early reports of that the defensive line draft

641
00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:13,120
Speaker 1: class is loaded loaded.

642
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:16,520
Speaker 3: What you could potentially find sometimes is a player who,

643
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:19,280
Speaker 3: like the positional fit thing is a little bit off.

644
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:22,000
Speaker 3: Is the an outside linebacker? Is he an inside guy? Like?

645
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:24,240
Speaker 3: What what is his role? Is he a detailed like

646
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:27,440
Speaker 3: what what is it exactly? And sometimes those guys can

647
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:29,240
Speaker 3: fall down the board a little bit and if you

648
00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 3: feel like you have a vision or he fits your

649
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 3: defense for what that player is going to be, then

650
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:36,480
Speaker 3: you could get really good value. I think that that.

651
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:39,280
Speaker 1: That that's the you're saying, like the d N outside

652
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:40,480
Speaker 1: linebacker hybrid kind of.

653
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:44,600
Speaker 3: Plot, yes, or like or the reverse? Is he like

654
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:46,600
Speaker 3: a d tackle or could you could he play the

655
00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:49,120
Speaker 3: d N role? Basically a player whose position is a

656
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:54,360
Speaker 3: little bit unclear and the teams are debating, does he

657
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:57,040
Speaker 3: fit our defense? We play its traditional four to three,

658
00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:58,720
Speaker 3: we play at rushle three to four.

659
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:00,920
Speaker 4: Not sure he really what word does.

660
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Speaker 2: Sometimes you can get a stud like get a bargain.

661
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 3: You can potentially get a bargain. This is my fairy

662
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:08,800
Speaker 3: tale land or this is to me, like, this is

663
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:12,160
Speaker 3: a scenario where if you're sitting there at the end

664
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:15,480
Speaker 3: of the first round, it picked twenty seven, and how.

665
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 4: Is this guy available?

666
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:18,880
Speaker 1: Nobody thought he was gonna be one, and especially in

667
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:21,720
Speaker 1: a loaded draft class where yeah, you're just like, wow,

668
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 1: that is a crazy good player that you're getting at

669
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:28,200
Speaker 1: twenty seven, similar to Nate Wiggins last year, where you're like,

670
00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:31,120
Speaker 1: this guy is one of the most athletic corners to

671
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:33,240
Speaker 1: come out in the draft in a long, long time,

672
00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:34,720
Speaker 1: and the Ravens just got him at the end of

673
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:37,640
Speaker 1: the first round. Yeah, you know, like it could be

674
00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:41,000
Speaker 1: a similar situation just because so many corners, there were

675
00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:43,240
Speaker 1: so many corners to put on the board, so many

676
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:46,360
Speaker 1: going off right, and so it could be a similar

677
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 1: situation with the defensive line.

678
00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:51,040
Speaker 3: And so if there's if that guy is there, then

679
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:54,480
Speaker 3: then that would fall into your dark horse situation. So I.

680
00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:58,080
Speaker 4: Think defense line is a point.

681
00:30:58,080 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 1: And when we were talking about sacks and pass rush,

682
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 1: you know, I think it's false to just put that

683
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:06,800
Speaker 1: all on outside linebacker people. I think fall too much

684
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 1: into that trap of saying we need more sacks.

685
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 2: Man, Let's go get a pass rusher. Let's go get

686
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:12,480
Speaker 2: d J.

687
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 1: Watt and Miles Garrett and you know these premiere outside linebackers, right,

688
00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:21,200
Speaker 1: the Ravens have gotten a lot of sacks in recent

689
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 1: years from their defense. Now, the amount of Mike showed

690
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:27,719
Speaker 1: that last season, right, and and I think that he'll

691
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 1: have a really productive year again this year. But you know,

692
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 1: I think that you can certainly if you add that

693
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:36,800
Speaker 1: kind of player on the defensive line, man just pushing

694
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:39,920
Speaker 1: that pocket. And we saw what it did to Patrick

695
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:43,120
Speaker 1: Mahomes right, you collapse that pocket from the front end

696
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:46,160
Speaker 1: from the inside out. That helps the outside linebacker get

697
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 1: to the quarterback more often, that helps your secondary. That

698
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 1: player can make a big difference.

699
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 3: And also even if it's not just the pass rush,

700
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:54,480
Speaker 3: like let's just say Michael Pierre says, you know what,

701
00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:56,280
Speaker 3: I'm calling it a career, it's been great.

702
00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:57,880
Speaker 4: Man. He is.

703
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:00,920
Speaker 1: He gobbles up blockers and he he pushes the posts.

704
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:02,640
Speaker 1: His run defense was number one in the league, and

705
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:03,680
Speaker 1: you don't want that changeing.

706
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:06,600
Speaker 4: He's the biggest reason why, A huge reason.

707
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 2: He's He's a big reason why.

708
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:10,880
Speaker 3: But yeah, so I think that if you're it could

709
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 3: become a whole. It's not just about upgrading with the

710
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 3: possibility exists that it could become a hole. Inside linebacker

711
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:20,400
Speaker 3: is next on our list. Both Malik Harrison and Chris

712
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:23,600
Speaker 3: Board are pending free agents. Now, I think the possibility

713
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:25,560
Speaker 3: exists the Ravens could bring back one or both of

714
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:27,560
Speaker 3: those guys. I'm pretty team friendly deals. They're not going

715
00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:29,360
Speaker 3: to break the bank. The Ravens have done that a

716
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 3: couple of times with both of them, and so I

717
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:35,080
Speaker 3: think that that could happen. They ended up at the

718
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:37,280
Speaker 3: start of the year was Roquwan Smith and Trenton Simpson.

719
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 3: And then as the year went along, Trenton struggled and

720
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:42,280
Speaker 3: the Ravens went with Malie Harrison and Chris Board playing

721
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 3: more snaps on the defensive side. And so I think

722
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:47,000
Speaker 3: that they would like to bring back one or both

723
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:49,960
Speaker 3: of those guys also important special teamers. I also still

724
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 3: think that Trent Simpson is going to get his shot

725
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 3: this year and the book is not closed on him.

726
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:56,800
Speaker 3: You and I both think that he's a really talented,

727
00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:59,240
Speaker 3: hard working player who I think is the light bulb

728
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:01,120
Speaker 3: is going to go off and he's gonna He's gonna

729
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:05,800
Speaker 3: get it and play well. But if you don't, the

730
00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:07,680
Speaker 3: reason I think probably both of us have it here

731
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 3: as a need is Malie Carrison and Chris Board are

732
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 3: both free agents. So if you don't resign those guys,

733
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 3: then you're in a situation where it's basically it's it's

734
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:19,760
Speaker 3: all gonna be on Trenton and you don't have that

735
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 3: depth that you had this year.

736
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:25,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely agree, And and certainly you know the Ravens

737
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 1: saw as the season went on, they made they made

738
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 1: the mid season change it inside linebacker because they felt

739
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 1: like man it's really critical to shore up the middle

740
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:36,320
Speaker 1: of our of our defense, and Malie Harrison and Chris

741
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 1: Board did that. To your point, I think, I think Trenton.

742
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:43,400
Speaker 1: Trenton is another guy that I look at in the

743
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:46,400
Speaker 1: same mold as Roger Rosengarten, who I was talking about earlier, who,

744
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:49,320
Speaker 1: like I just have a ton of faith in in

745
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:51,320
Speaker 1: the player that they will become because of the way

746
00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:54,320
Speaker 1: they work and the person that they are, and how

747
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:58,440
Speaker 1: they're just built and and and their their athleticism, their

748
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:01,120
Speaker 1: skills on top of that, Like, Trenton has all the

749
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:06,120
Speaker 1: intangibles that you want, and so I think that that

750
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:08,840
Speaker 1: experience will serve him well. I think another full offseason

751
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:10,400
Speaker 1: of seeing a lot of reps and just being a

752
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:14,160
Speaker 1: more older player, more mature player, and experienced player like

753
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:16,760
Speaker 1: that's going to make a big difference for trent and Simpson.

754
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:21,399
Speaker 1: I expect him to play at a high level. And so, yeah,

755
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:23,799
Speaker 1: it's more of a depth and you need you need

756
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 1: depth and inside linebacker for sure. Next up we have

757
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:31,400
Speaker 1: wide receiver and I really debated inside linebacker wide receiver

758
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:36,240
Speaker 1: in that order. Yeah, because gosh, you know, I talked

759
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:40,239
Speaker 1: about my confidence level in the offense, but you have

760
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 1: to have the weapons at wide receiver to make this

761
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:45,239
Speaker 1: thing thrive. And I know, you know a lot of

762
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:50,319
Speaker 1: the Ravens offense operates through their tight ends, and they

763
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:53,279
Speaker 1: have a loaded group there coming back in twenty twenty

764
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:56,920
Speaker 1: five with Mark Andrews, Isaiah Likely, and Charlie Kohler leading

765
00:34:56,960 --> 00:35:00,920
Speaker 1: the way. But wide receiver, you know, the Ravens are

766
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:03,359
Speaker 1: pretty fortunate because they're very healthy at wide receiver. Also

767
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:06,279
Speaker 1: this past season was Zay Flowers unfortunately till you know,

768
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 1: until the playoffs, so that really hurt. But Rasha Bateman

769
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:14,359
Speaker 1: was healthy. And the reason that I felt like because

770
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:18,320
Speaker 1: so it's really a number three wide out. The reason

771
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:21,400
Speaker 1: that I put it a little bit lower behind inside

772
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:25,160
Speaker 1: linebackers because Nelson Aguilor was really the number three wide

773
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:28,880
Speaker 1: out last year. He caught fourteen passes for two hundred

774
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:32,120
Speaker 1: and thirty one yards, you know, and two scores. So

775
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:36,200
Speaker 1: how big of a role is that number three wide

776
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 1: receiver when you have the tight ends that the Ravens have,

777
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 1: When Isaiah Likely and Mark Andrews certainly are like wide receivers,

778
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:45,760
Speaker 1: can play the game like wide receivers and split out wide.

779
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:47,960
Speaker 2: And so that's why I felt like.

780
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 1: It's not as big of a priority just because of

781
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:55,680
Speaker 1: the offense the Ravens run, and I think that they

782
00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:59,720
Speaker 1: have good candidates to bring back in that spot.

783
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:01,160
Speaker 2: I think Tylan Wallace.

784
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 1: Was a reliable player for them last year and it

785
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 1: could make a lot of sense from not only an

786
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 1: offensive perspective, but of special teams perspective too to retain

787
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:11,560
Speaker 1: him bring him back.

788
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:13,640
Speaker 2: He's a free agent, He's a pending free agent.

789
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:16,520
Speaker 4: Both Thailand and Nelson Aguilar are free agency.

790
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:19,839
Speaker 1: Could they could bring Nelson Agalore back for another another year,

791
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:23,920
Speaker 1: and so you know, I think that they have some

792
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:26,480
Speaker 1: candidates also that could could be that number three wide

793
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:28,040
Speaker 1: out well the other and Devonte's walk.

794
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:29,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was gonna say he's probably the most likely

795
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:32,400
Speaker 3: in house replacement for that number three Nelson.

796
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 4: I would say for Nelson to step into that number

797
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 4: three role.

798
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:37,880
Speaker 3: Ravens drafted him last year, like the potential, came in

799
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:39,960
Speaker 3: and caught a really nice touchdown in his first catch

800
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:44,480
Speaker 3: as a pro, so like pretty good start, and he

801
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:46,759
Speaker 3: like he was a young guy. His speed is his

802
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:49,279
Speaker 3: probably greatest asset as a young player that's learning how

803
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:51,959
Speaker 3: to play the NFL game. But the Ravens do like him,

804
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 3: and so I think he's going to get a chance

805
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:56,360
Speaker 3: to prove himself this spring and then and then summer.

806
00:36:57,480 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 4: I think that it's it's basically that depth role.

807
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 3: Could the Ravens, of course, could still draft in the

808
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:06,280
Speaker 3: playoff game when when Zay Flowers was hurt, the Ravens

809
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:08,320
Speaker 3: had to go kind of into the deep into the

810
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 3: well a little bit.

811
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:10,040
Speaker 4: Like Anthony Miller.

812
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:12,080
Speaker 3: Got called up for the practice squad and he's catching

813
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 3: passes and playoff games. And Stephen Simms, who the Ravens

814
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:18,120
Speaker 3: claimed off of waivers, is catching passes and playoff games.

815
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:20,120
Speaker 1: Anthony Miller, by the way, he signed to a future

816
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:22,960
Speaker 1: reserves contract, so like he's part of the solution.

817
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:23,440
Speaker 2: Part of the movie.

818
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:26,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, So like those guys are also in the mix there.

819
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:32,239
Speaker 3: I don't think the Ravens we have a conversation every year,

820
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:34,279
Speaker 3: not as much this year, given that the Ravens have

821
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:36,840
Speaker 3: their top two receivers and save Flowers from Bateman, I

822
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:39,759
Speaker 3: don't see the Ravens being in the mix for any

823
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:42,200
Speaker 3: big name receivers in free agency or the drafts or

824
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:43,600
Speaker 3: I just don't see that, Like that's.

825
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 1: Been part of his buzz and reports of you know

826
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:48,040
Speaker 1: the potential of trading for Cooper cup or Yeah.

827
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:50,880
Speaker 3: Ah that so whenever guy like, whenever a guy comes available.

828
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:53,360
Speaker 3: I think every team, and especially here in Baltimore, everybody's like,

829
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:54,399
Speaker 3: could you go get this guy?

830
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 4: Go get it?

831
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:57,440
Speaker 3: And I just don't. I don't really see it. I

832
00:37:57,440 --> 00:37:59,840
Speaker 3: think the Ravens feel really good about their top two targets.

833
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 3: And then from my number three wide receiver standpoint, when

834
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:05,080
Speaker 3: you already have the tight ends that you mentioned, I

835
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:10,279
Speaker 3: don't see them investing massive resources on a player, a

836
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:11,560
Speaker 3: star player at that spot.

837
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:13,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's all fair.

838
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:16,000
Speaker 1: I'm actually talking myself into thinking that I should have

839
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 1: put wide receiver higher.

840
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:19,080
Speaker 2: I think I think if I'm going.

841
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:21,719
Speaker 1: To rewrack this, we put it ahead of its online

842
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:26,399
Speaker 1: met a tinker. I gotta minker it. So I'm gonna

843
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:29,080
Speaker 1: go wide receiver over inside linebacker. Actually, I'm talking myself

844
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:29,759
Speaker 1: into it. All right.

845
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 3: Well, then next up, we had quarterback for now, unless

846
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:33,840
Speaker 3: you make another change here, but we had a quarterback.

847
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:36,919
Speaker 3: Of course I'm gonna stick with. Of course, that's that's

848
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 3: a backup quarterback. Josh Johnson is a free agent, so

849
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 3: I think both of us feel like Josh Johnson can

850
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 3: come back and do exactly what he did this year.

851
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:49,360
Speaker 3: He's a good fit. Lamar Jackson likes him, The Ravens

852
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:51,880
Speaker 3: like him. He knows his offense, got a good relationship

853
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:52,920
Speaker 3: with everybody in the building.

854
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:55,160
Speaker 4: Super smart veteran player.

855
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:57,839
Speaker 3: So it would not surprise me at all if Josh

856
00:38:57,920 --> 00:38:59,879
Speaker 3: Johnson just ends up being the backup quarterback this year.

857
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:02,360
Speaker 3: Devin Leary, the Ravens drafted last year, spent the season

858
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:05,200
Speaker 3: on the practice squad. He's still in the mix for

859
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 3: that spot. So but Josh Shawntson beat him out for

860
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 3: the backup job in training camp this year. So I

861
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:15,600
Speaker 3: think that Josh just could end up back here. I don't,

862
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:18,840
Speaker 3: of course, at this stage of his career veteran player,

863
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 3: how long does he want to continue playing, But.

864
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:21,919
Speaker 2: He'll turn thirty nine in May.

865
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:24,840
Speaker 4: I think that it could. He could certainly be the

866
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:25,879
Speaker 4: guy again this year.

867
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:29,759
Speaker 1: I just don't see what's different about Josh Shahnson at

868
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:32,279
Speaker 1: thirty nine as is the thirty eight. To be honest, Yeah,

869
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:34,680
Speaker 1: I think if he wants to keep playing, he's the

870
00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:37,000
Speaker 1: same player, yeah that he was that the Ravens had

871
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:41,359
Speaker 1: confidence in this past season, and so yeah, I think

872
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:43,960
Speaker 1: that would make a lot of sense. I think most importantly,

873
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:47,920
Speaker 1: the Ravens are not in my opinion, I don't project

874
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 1: them seeing or I don't project them to spend significant

875
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 1: resources on a backup quarterback, you know, and there's just

876
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:57,719
Speaker 1: too many other needs that they want to upgrade, and

877
00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:00,840
Speaker 1: for a player that you hope is never going to

878
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:01,319
Speaker 1: see the field.

879
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:04,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, I also think this potential. They tried the developmental

880
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:06,239
Speaker 3: quarterback route last year in the draft. They took Devin

881
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:08,600
Speaker 3: Lear in the sixth round, and depending on what they

882
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:10,840
Speaker 3: think of Devin again, he was on the practice squad

883
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 3: and so I'm sure he improved of the course of

884
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:14,719
Speaker 3: the year. But if they wanted to take another shot

885
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 3: at a developmental quarterback in the draft, I think that

886
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:17,920
Speaker 3: possibility exists as well.

887
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 2: That's correct.

888
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 4: So then the next spot that we both have is

889
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 4: tight end. Not a need at all for this year.

890
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:25,399
Speaker 3: The Ravens have one of the best tight ever rooms,

891
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:27,400
Speaker 3: if not the best in the league, with Mark Andrews,

892
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:31,000
Speaker 3: Isaiah Likely and Charlie Kohler. The reason why I would

893
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:33,040
Speaker 3: even put it on the list here is that all

894
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:36,600
Speaker 3: I guess everything's on the list, but like all three

895
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:39,719
Speaker 3: of those guys are in the last seasons of their contract.

896
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:42,399
Speaker 3: So it's going to be much higher on our list

897
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:44,480
Speaker 3: next year unless the Ravens work out extensions with those

898
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:47,920
Speaker 3: guys prior to that point. But yeah, all three of

899
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:50,120
Speaker 3: those guys are on a contract this year, going to

900
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:52,399
Speaker 3: be important pieces of the team. But when you're talking

901
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:53,360
Speaker 3: about long.

902
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:56,440
Speaker 1: Twenty twenty six, it becomes much more important. Yeah, and

903
00:40:56,719 --> 00:41:01,440
Speaker 1: I think you know you do you draft somebody in

904
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:04,480
Speaker 1: the middle rounds too. Then That's been the Ravens mo

905
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:07,400
Speaker 1: over the years is they usually take that third fourth

906
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:10,600
Speaker 1: round tight end to kind of, you know, play special

907
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:12,600
Speaker 1: teams this rookie season and learn from the Vets and

908
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:15,279
Speaker 1: then you know, potentially step into a bigger role. Now

909
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:18,120
Speaker 1: it's a little different because Isaiah Likely and Charlie Couler

910
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:20,400
Speaker 1: are still very young players, and Mark Andrews is still

911
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 1: Mark Andrews, you know, So.

912
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 2: Do they not really feel like, Okay, it's time.

913
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 1: To get that we have our future we might have

914
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:31,200
Speaker 1: our future starters in house already.

915
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:32,239
Speaker 4: Do you do it now?

916
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:34,600
Speaker 3: Like, do you make that move now and have a

917
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:37,080
Speaker 3: guy that basically you draft in the third round. Let's

918
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:39,040
Speaker 3: just say it's tight end who is probably not going

919
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:41,320
Speaker 3: to see the field much at all as a rookie.

920
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:44,480
Speaker 3: But you draft a really good player to essentially stash him,

921
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:47,279
Speaker 3: right or do you wait and then you wait till

922
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:48,760
Speaker 3: next year and then it's a big need.

923
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:49,440
Speaker 4: I don't know.

924
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:52,560
Speaker 3: There's different schools of thought there. Think it obviously depends

925
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 3: on how the draft goes. But I would put this

926
00:41:57,120 --> 00:41:59,799
Speaker 3: in the category of would not be surprised if they're

927
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:02,759
Speaker 3: as ended up using a mid rod draft pick they've

928
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:04,920
Speaker 3: got when you go back through and look at the history,

929
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 3: the track record that the Ravens have of drafting mid

930
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:10,400
Speaker 3: round tight ends second to none.

931
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:12,520
Speaker 1: Well and drafting two at the same in the same class,

932
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 1: and I think that's going to maybe.

933
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 4: They just wait till nextually you just do the double

934
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 4: dip again.

935
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:17,239
Speaker 2: They love the tight end double dip.

936
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:19,279
Speaker 4: They do love the double dip, So maybe that's the moves.

937
00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:20,399
Speaker 2: It's been a good move.

938
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:20,799
Speaker 4: Yeah.

939
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 1: Uh. And I think that you know somebody that we

940
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:28,040
Speaker 1: haven't mentioned that factors into all this and including it

941
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:30,719
Speaker 1: kind of at tight end is Patrick Crickard, who's a

942
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:34,080
Speaker 1: pending free agent, and so you know what happens with him.

943
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:37,239
Speaker 1: I think Patrick at the season end said I want

944
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:39,719
Speaker 1: to retire a raven. Eric Takasa said, I'd like Pat

945
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:42,720
Speaker 1: to retire a raven, So I think that it's likely

946
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 1: that those two come to an agreement on a on

947
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:49,480
Speaker 1: a contract extension, which is a critical piece in this offense,

948
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:52,440
Speaker 1: especially from a blocking perspective. And when you talk about

949
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:54,799
Speaker 1: that blocking role out there on the edge and what

950
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:58,120
Speaker 1: kind of a tight end, you know, he's a hybrid

951
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:01,520
Speaker 1: tight end in a way tight end fullback and so

952
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:05,280
Speaker 1: like that's that's kind of the position. Charlie Kohler certainly

953
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 1: has improved as a blocking tight end and that's the

954
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:12,440
Speaker 1: majority of his role at this point of his career.

955
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:16,879
Speaker 1: But like, if you don't bring back Patrick Ricard, does

956
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:20,359
Speaker 1: that elevate the need to find another blocker, some kind

957
00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 1: of big bodied blocking tight end that could help Charlie

958
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:25,359
Speaker 1: and play some kind of role like that.

959
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:26,840
Speaker 2: I just think that's unlikely.

960
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:28,080
Speaker 4: I just think they're going to work out a deal

961
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:28,279
Speaker 4: with that.

962
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:31,359
Speaker 2: I agree. I'm in that boat, and that's why tight

963
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:32,279
Speaker 2: end is at number nine.

964
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:33,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think they're just going to figure that out.

965
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 3: I Mean, even Eric when he was asked about it

966
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:37,239
Speaker 3: at the press conference, was kind of.

967
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:38,600
Speaker 4: Like, how many deals have we done with Pat?

968
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:40,480
Speaker 2: Like We've done a bunch of them, like his agent's

969
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:43,480
Speaker 2: my pal. Yeah, don't I feel good on this?

970
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll be all right. Then the last position of

971
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:47,719
Speaker 3: need that we had is running back. The Raves are

972
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:49,400
Speaker 3: in pretty good hands there with Derrick Henry as the

973
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:51,920
Speaker 3: number one back, Justice Hill. They resigned to a contract

974
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 3: extension in the middle of last season.

975
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:54,160
Speaker 2: It was awesome.

976
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:54,759
Speaker 4: It was great.

977
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:57,480
Speaker 3: So they have their one two and then like one

978
00:43:57,560 --> 00:43:58,719
Speaker 3: through four is really strong.

979
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:00,399
Speaker 2: You're an embarrassment of rich this year.

980
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:04,000
Speaker 3: Rashena Lee last year who got some spot action as

981
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:06,480
Speaker 3: a rookie and flashed a little bit. And then you

982
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 3: have Keith Mitchell, who didn't plan much at all, came

983
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:11,920
Speaker 3: back from the knee injury, but this year was it

984
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:13,759
Speaker 3: was like a medical red shirt year for him. He

985
00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:16,359
Speaker 3: was working his way back from that knee injury, which

986
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:20,440
Speaker 3: happened late in the twenty twenty three season, major injury,

987
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:25,440
Speaker 3: and now going when you talk to these guys, you

988
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:27,760
Speaker 3: talk to JK. Dobbins when he was here, and Gus

989
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:30,640
Speaker 3: Edwards and handful of other players like it often takes

990
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:33,919
Speaker 3: a whole season before you really feel like yourself again.

991
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:36,399
Speaker 3: And now Keith Mitchell is going to be going into

992
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:39,439
Speaker 3: this year healthy throughout the off season, and I think

993
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:42,640
Speaker 3: in much better position to make an impact in some

994
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:43,320
Speaker 3: spot action.

995
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:47,640
Speaker 1: So that'd be the third running back and kickoff return

996
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:52,080
Speaker 1: kickoff return certainly, Yeah, yeah, I think that, you know.

997
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:56,239
Speaker 1: And there's also talk about whether Derrick Henry could get

998
00:44:56,239 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 1: a contract extension. He talked about how an NFL Honors

999
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:02,839
Speaker 1: said that he wants to retire a raven and Eric

1000
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 1: Takasa said that's something that they'll look into, and so

1001
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:08,919
Speaker 1: if that were to happen, the need goes down even more,

1002
00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:10,480
Speaker 1: and it's already at the bottom.

1003
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:12,080
Speaker 3: Of our list, Yeah, because he signed a two year

1004
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:14,359
Speaker 3: contract with the Ravens, so he would be going into

1005
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:17,359
Speaker 3: the final year of his contract. Obviously, he played very

1006
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 3: well up to his contract last year, so maybe they

1007
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:22,000
Speaker 3: work out an extension to add another year or something

1008
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 3: like that to the contract.

1009
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:25,480
Speaker 4: So that's our list of our top ten needs. Let

1010
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:26,120
Speaker 4: us know what you think.

1011
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:27,880
Speaker 3: As always, you can email us to the Lounge at

1012
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:30,000
Speaker 3: Ravens dot NFL dot net.

1013
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:32,600
Speaker 4: We'll read some of those emails in a future episode.

1014
00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:34,759
Speaker 3: And if you send us an email and we read

1015
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:36,520
Speaker 3: it on the air, rolls make sure that we'll send.

1016
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:37,839
Speaker 4: A T shirt your way.

1017
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:41,480
Speaker 2: It's a nice t shirt, so a little incentive if

1018
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:43,080
Speaker 2: we send us your rankings.

1019
00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:46,440
Speaker 1: I'd be curious, you know, to see other our listeners'

1020
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:47,680
Speaker 1: rankings go one through ten.

1021
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:49,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, let us know what you think. Yeah, I'd be curious.

1022
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:52,640
Speaker 3: So as always, we love hearing from you guys. Thank

1023
00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:55,359
Speaker 3: you so much for listening, for emailing, and for being

1024
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:57,120
Speaker 3: part of the show. And we will talk with you

1025
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Speaker 3: again soon