1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,400 Speaker 1: Is already transforming work, one delegated task at a time. 2 00:00:03,480 --> 00:00:05,920 Speaker 2: If the transformation unfolds slowly. 3 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:08,680 Speaker 1: Enough and the economy adjusts quickly enough, the economists may 4 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:09,000 Speaker 1: be right. 5 00:00:09,039 --> 00:00:10,600 Speaker 3: We will be fine or even better. 6 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:14,360 Speaker 1: But if AI triggers a rapid reorganization of work, compressing 7 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:18,000 Speaker 1: years of change in two months, affecting roughly forty percent 8 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:22,040 Speaker 1: of jobs worldwide, as the International Monetary Fund projects, the 9 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:24,600 Speaker 1: consequences will not stop at the economy. 10 00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 2: It's one of those issues that touches all aspects of 11 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 2: a civilization, and the civilization that we have is letting 12 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:33,960 Speaker 2: us down. So it starts with the economists, who really 13 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:36,240 Speaker 2: are restrained by the data they have, and the data 14 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:39,560 Speaker 2: they have right now says there's no evidence that AI 15 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 2: is yet affecting the labor market. And some economers say, well, 16 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 2: we should plan in case it does, right, some don't. 17 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 2: The CEOs who are in charge of the Fortune one 18 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 2: hundred CEO who are in charge of a lot of 19 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 2: America's workforce, we're really sounding off about a year ago, 20 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 2: about like philosopher Kings, about AI and their theories of 21 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 2: what it was going to do, and then all of 22 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 2: a sudden they stop talking. Why because I think they 23 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 2: realize from their PR teams, Hey, you know, when you 24 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:09,759 Speaker 2: talk about what might happen to America's workforce, it doesn't 25 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:11,639 Speaker 2: sound great, and you don't want. 26 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:13,839 Speaker 4: To be associated with that. So maybe we should stop 27 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:14,319 Speaker 4: doing that. 28 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 2: And so all at the same time that stopped, I 29 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 2: did talk to a lot of people on background, a 30 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:21,399 Speaker 2: lot of CEOs who say, look, I love my workforce. 31 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:24,480 Speaker 2: Wall Street is going to insist, after years and years 32 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 2: of investment in AI, that I show some results. And 33 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 2: if the AI magic miracle isn't here, the results will 34 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 2: be cutting costs, and those costs will be cut now. 35 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:36,680 Speaker 2: And then on the sort of last leg of this 36 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 2: little triathlon, you have politics. And so historically, when big 37 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:46,480 Speaker 2: disruption comes to the most important thing American jobs, the 38 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 2: right and the left get together and figure out, well, 39 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 2: for our own political self preservation, we better have a plan. 40 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 2: And what I discover when I talk to America's political 41 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 2: class is that not only they don't have a plan, 42 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 2: not only the ignorant of AI, they actually think that 43 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 2: the current federal plan of just let it go, it's 44 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 2: gonna work itself out is fine. 45 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 5: With two exceptions. 46 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 2: On the left, Bernie Sanders who's written a really ferocious 47 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:16,520 Speaker 2: report about what we should be demanding from companies and 48 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 2: from government for the future of the American workforce. And 49 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 2: on the right, the person who said to me multiple times, 50 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 2: I agree with Bernie Sanders, with Steve Bennon, and so 51 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 2: when you get those two political forces aligned, you're gonna 52 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:34,240 Speaker 2: see change and disruption. And so what I came away 53 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 2: with is, this is the most important issue in American 54 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:39,800 Speaker 2: culture that no one is talking about. 55 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:47,520 Speaker 5: This is the crimal scream of a dying regime. Pray 56 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:51,079 Speaker 5: for our enemies, because we're going to medieval on these people. 57 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 5: He's not going to free shot all these networks lying 58 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:57,919 Speaker 5: about the people. The people have had a belly full 59 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:00,160 Speaker 5: of it. I know you don't like hearingbet. I know 60 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:01,639 Speaker 5: you're trying to do everything in the world to stop that, 61 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 5: but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen. 62 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:06,080 Speaker 2: And where do people like that go to share the 63 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 2: big line? 64 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 4: Mega media? 65 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 2: I wish in my soul, I wish that any of 66 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 2: these people had a conscience. 67 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 5: Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose. 68 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 5: If that answer is to save my country, this country 69 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:24,080 Speaker 5: will be saved. 70 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 4: War Room Hew's your host, Stephen k Man. 71 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:33,079 Speaker 5: It's Thursday, twelve February, in the year of our lower 72 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 5: twenty twenty six. Brendan Stenhauser is with the Steinhausers with 73 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 5: us in Rosemary drinks. Brennan, I've got to hand you 74 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 5: a compliment, well deserved you and a handful of others 75 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 5: in that cold open he said, there we went to 76 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 5: a period where the philosopher kings of AI, and that's 77 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 5: the leaders, the four horsemen of the Apocalypse, the four 78 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 5: with the four Labs, the four advanced labs, I think, 79 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 5: would get out and make these pronouncements of what AI 80 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 5: was going to do and how great it was going 81 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 5: to be. I mean, Elon's still doing it. Elon's telling 82 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 5: us that the only way out of here of the 83 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 5: highly leveraged bet is robots. We'll get to that in 84 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:19,479 Speaker 5: a second. But which I know sounds childish because it 85 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:24,719 Speaker 5: is childish. But you and others bringing this in front 86 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:27,159 Speaker 5: of the American people, like on War Room and other 87 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 5: platforms like this, the PR departments listen what the guy said. 88 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:33,600 Speaker 5: The PR departments went to them and said, hey, you 89 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 5: better tone this down because it's working against us. Talk 90 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:41,279 Speaker 5: about first the philosopher Kings and how wrong they were 91 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 5: in miss leaking the American people before you and a 92 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 5: handful of others started just hammering them every day, and 93 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:51,039 Speaker 5: now their communications teams are saying, hey, we're checking the polling. 94 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:54,159 Speaker 5: It's not working. The American people don't trust you, and 95 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 5: they're starting to hate you, sir. Yeah, well, Steve, thank 96 00:04:58,320 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 5: you so much. 97 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 6: I appreciate that, and I appreciate the opportunity to come 98 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:04,480 Speaker 6: on your show and talk about this. And yet something 99 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:07,159 Speaker 6: we've been paying a lot of attention to the last 100 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 6: few years and sounding the alarm and then watching as 101 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 6: these big tech CEOs just go out there. 102 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:13,160 Speaker 5: And promise the world. 103 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 6: They promise utopia, and as one of my good friends, 104 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:18,679 Speaker 6: Mark Bille, who you've had on this show has said, 105 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:21,839 Speaker 6: every time we're promised utopia and ends up in the gulag. 106 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 6: So we've been very concerned about this. We've been out 107 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 6: there talking to regular people around the country. I just 108 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:30,480 Speaker 6: gave a speech the other night in Austin, Texas. I've 109 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 6: been traveling around giving talks. My team has been doing that, 110 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 6: and I can tell you what the Gentleman said earlier 111 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:37,920 Speaker 6: on that show on MSN Now is totally true. If 112 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:42,360 Speaker 6: you're speaking to conservatives, to liberals, to libertarians, they're all in. 113 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 6: I get very little resistance when I talk about what 114 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 6: we need to do. 115 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 5: There is huge. 116 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:50,480 Speaker 6: Skepticism of these big tech companies. They don't trust Sam Altman, 117 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 6: they don't trust any of these CEOs to tell them 118 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:55,679 Speaker 6: the truth. They see that what they're trying to build 119 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 6: in Silicon Valley is a digital god. They want us 120 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 6: all to worship the digital god. They want us all 121 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 6: to pay homage to the digital overlords in the in 122 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 6: these CEOs, and that's something that the American people reject. 123 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 6: We cannot keep up with the amount of people that 124 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 6: are joining our cause every day, who are signing up 125 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 6: on our website saying we want to help you, we 126 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:16,479 Speaker 6: want to support you. 127 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:17,359 Speaker 5: So it's a deluge. 128 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 6: We want people to continue to support us, and we'll 129 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 6: give them ways to get involved in this fight. We'll 130 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 6: give them ways to take action, to light up the calls, 131 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 6: light up the phone mines on Capitol Hill and in 132 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 6: states around the country, because that's what it's going to 133 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 6: take to make this go the right way. 134 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 7: Now. 135 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 5: But here's here's what happened. Here's what you and Mark 136 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:37,799 Speaker 5: Biale and others, our own, Joe Allen, others. You've given 137 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 5: a permission structure for people because before they said, well, 138 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 5: I can't, I can't, I can't criticize this. These are 139 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:46,360 Speaker 5: the tech holigarchs. They've supposedly made America so great. They've 140 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:48,839 Speaker 5: done all the social media, they've done all this. They're 141 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:51,479 Speaker 5: so great. I see them everywhere. Right, they all came 142 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:54,160 Speaker 5: and paid paid homage to President Trump e if you want, 143 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 5: and remember I said, all those guys except for Elon 144 00:06:57,640 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 5: all became a maga at ten o'clock Eastern Standard time 145 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 5: on election night when Pennsylvania and Michigan were called. Next thing, 146 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:07,920 Speaker 5: you know, they're down in mar Lago. So people needed 147 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 5: a permission structure. And that's what you guys have gone 148 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 5: around to do. I just want you to say it 149 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 5: again as you go around the country, because Joe Allens 150 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 5: is the same thing. You go around the country and 151 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 5: you give talks to to conservative groups or to libertarians, 152 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 5: or even to liberal groups. It's virtually unanimity that people 153 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 5: come up to you and say, I don't trust these guys. 154 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:31,600 Speaker 5: I'm highly skeptical. I think we're going down the wrong path. 155 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 5: Tell me what I can do. Is that I just 156 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 5: I don't want to put words in mouth. Is that 157 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 5: what you're saying, That is exactly what I'm saying. 158 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:39,680 Speaker 6: And I'm sure there might be a few people in 159 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 6: the crowd that come in skeptical or maybe they're more 160 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 6: kind of pro AI than maybe some of the other 161 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 6: folks in the crowd. But I'm almost never do I 162 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 6: get outright, you know, hostile opposition or people that are 163 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 6: really on the other side, the side of the big 164 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 6: tech pros. 165 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 5: It almost never happens. 166 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 6: And again, we're speaking in cities, We're speaking in suburbs 167 00:07:58,680 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 6: and rural areas. 168 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 5: And I have friends of allies. 169 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:03,679 Speaker 6: Who are doing this work as well, constantly traveling around 170 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 6: doing a road show, talking to people, faith leaders, teachers, 171 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 6: police officers, nurses, doctors and lawyers, you know, welders and 172 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 6: plumbers and electricians. I mean, everywhere you go, people are 173 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:18,520 Speaker 6: concerned about this. They're worried about their jobs. But as 174 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 6: I had one pastor tell me the other day a 175 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 6: huge church, he said, you know, I'm worried about the 176 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:27,679 Speaker 6: spiritual component of losing work. I'm worried about human dignity 177 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 6: and purpose. It's not just the job. It's not just 178 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 6: the income, which we're worried about for our parishioners and 179 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 6: for our people, but I'm worried about the spiritual aspect 180 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:38,840 Speaker 6: of what can happen to human beings in this in 181 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 6: this new environment that we're stepping into. So there's a 182 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 6: lot of concern for people that are out there wondering. 183 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:45,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, you're not alone. 184 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 6: In fact, seventy eighty percent of Americans support safeguards on AI. 185 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 6: That's bipartisan, it's across party affiliation, it's across demographics. And 186 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:55,679 Speaker 6: I think the other sort of twenty five percent some 187 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 6: of them are unsure, maybe one percent with the big 188 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 6: tech prost people support safeguards and they want to get 189 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:02,079 Speaker 6: this right. 190 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 5: Brendan, we went through two phases. One we had Joan 191 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:07,959 Speaker 5: for a couple of years and we were warning people 192 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:11,199 Speaker 5: of this, talking about transhumanists all this. And then chat 193 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 5: GBT went to the World Economic Forum and showed that 194 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 5: the large language models were far ahead where people were, 195 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 5: and I said, the time the venture capital and the 196 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 5: and the private equity in the head fronts are going 197 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:25,080 Speaker 5: to pour into this. And so if you had any 198 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:28,320 Speaker 5: chance of keeping this in the barn, you just lost 199 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 5: it because now capital is going to pour, and that's 200 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 5: what's happened. Here's what's concerned me recently, even before this 201 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 5: leverage bet, which has just kind of become clear in 202 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 5: the last couple of months. I noticed if you watch 203 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:41,720 Speaker 5: sports or you watch news, and we watch sports for 204 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:44,560 Speaker 5: entertainment and we but we watched, we curate the news. 205 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:51,119 Speaker 5: The advertising cycle to businesses is all centered around agentic, 206 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 5: having an agent, and they're convincing businesses and business people 207 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 5: if you want to succeed in business as a mid 208 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 5: level even junior person, you have got to basically build 209 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:05,080 Speaker 5: and work with an agent, a digital agent, or yourself. 210 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 5: This agentic revolution, this is where I think it gets 211 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:10,680 Speaker 5: even scarier. Can you walk us through that for a second, 212 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:15,200 Speaker 5: and why this could be particularly very scary absolutely well. 213 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:18,440 Speaker 6: I think the agents are being built by these companies 214 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:22,320 Speaker 6: to replace human work, to replace human workers, and this 215 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 6: is just the beginning of this. These things are getting 216 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:28,320 Speaker 6: more and more sophisticated every few weeks, every few months. 217 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 6: The capabilities are rising exponentially, and so the very stated 218 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 6: purpose of why they're creating these agents is to take 219 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:38,560 Speaker 6: over white collar work. And then when you couple that 220 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 6: with robotics, and I know robotics is sort of a 221 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 6: little slower to develop. 222 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 5: It's hard to get it right. 223 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 6: But if you have robots that are increasing in versatility 224 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:51,560 Speaker 6: and dexterity, the ability to use their fingers to grasp 225 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:54,559 Speaker 6: things and do these precise movements, you power them with 226 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:57,720 Speaker 6: AI agents, and now you look at what that impact 227 00:10:57,760 --> 00:11:01,559 Speaker 6: will be on blue collar work. So automate is the purpose. 228 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 6: It's the design of a lot of these companies. They 229 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:06,840 Speaker 6: want to basically capture the value of the labor force. 230 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 6: They want to basically get wealthier themselves. They want to 231 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 6: capture the value of that labor. They want to get 232 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 6: massively wealthy. They want to be the first trillionaires in history. 233 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:17,560 Speaker 6: And I think they realize this. They've said publicly that 234 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 6: they fear what could happen when people realize this and 235 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 6: when people start to see what's happening to them. I mean, 236 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 6: they have used the term that they fear the mob. Well, yeah, 237 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 6: you should fear, and it's not a mob when you're 238 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 6: just basically capturing the value of people's labor. You're putting 239 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 6: them out of work, You're you know, using companions to 240 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 6: get their kids addicted and hooked. You're encouraging this situation 241 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 6: where we have AI psychosis and delusion. People are losing 242 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:44,960 Speaker 6: their minds because they're going down this rabbit hole. So 243 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:47,440 Speaker 6: they're creating all these societal problems, which, by the way, 244 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:50,440 Speaker 6: they created these same problems with social media. AI is 245 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:53,200 Speaker 6: just going to make that exponentially worse. And so, yeah, 246 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:55,840 Speaker 6: people are upset. They don't trust the big tech CEOs, 247 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 6: they don't trust the companies. They don't they don't like 248 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 6: what they're seeing, and they have every right and they 249 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:03,440 Speaker 6: to be concerned and to be worried, and they are. 250 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 6: And what we're asking people who are watching this to 251 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:09,680 Speaker 6: do is to take action, you know, join us in 252 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 6: this fight. 253 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 5: We need your help. This is what you know. The 254 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 5: first part isn't awakening. We've got to make sure everybody's 255 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 5: awakened this. I think it's happening so rapidly. Where do 256 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 5: people go, tell us, tell them how they can join. 257 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:22,959 Speaker 5: I want people to get more information. We're trying to 258 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:25,280 Speaker 5: put it out all the time every day, but I 259 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:29,320 Speaker 5: need we need an informed When they talk about a mob, 260 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 5: they talk about Homo sapiens, right, which they're trying to 261 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 5: get beyond hopeing sapiens. So we need Homo sapiens to 262 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:39,920 Speaker 5: awaken to what they're trying to do to eliminate you. 263 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 5: And that's where you're putting on information. Where do people 264 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:44,680 Speaker 5: go to get it? On your site? What is your recommendation? 265 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:46,959 Speaker 5: Call to action? You're recommended to call to action right now. 266 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:50,560 Speaker 6: Sure, the best thing people can do is to join 267 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:54,520 Speaker 6: us by coming to our website secure ai noow dot org. 268 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 6: Secure ai noow dot org. Sign up. We'll send you information, 269 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 6: we'll send you key news alerts, and if you really 270 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:03,959 Speaker 6: want to take action on some of the legislation we're 271 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 6: working on in the States and on Capitol Hill, will 272 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:09,960 Speaker 6: give you ways to do that. We stay in touch 273 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:12,680 Speaker 6: with people that join the alliance. We work with countless 274 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 6: groups across the country and there's some great organizations that 275 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 6: we work with to lead this effort. And so yeah, 276 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:20,840 Speaker 6: join us online. We'll make sure that we give you 277 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 6: updates on how you can take action in the moment. 278 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 6: But the overall thing I want people to do be aware, 279 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 6: get educated, and stay in touch with us because we 280 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:31,199 Speaker 6: have to act right now. 281 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:34,680 Speaker 5: That's why it's an alliance. But yeah, time for actions now. 282 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 5: Like I said, we're hurtling down. We're making a national bet, 283 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 5: we're making a corporate bet that's so highly leveraged on 284 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:45,200 Speaker 5: this technology and if it doesn't work, and it doesn't 285 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 5: work perfectly, and I actually think it's on many levels 286 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:51,600 Speaker 5: fairly inefficient at least right now, it's people are The 287 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 5: bet they're making financially is quite scary. Brennan, one more time, 288 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:57,880 Speaker 5: Where do people go to join the alliance? 289 00:13:59,240 --> 00:13:59,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, please join. 290 00:13:59,920 --> 00:14:02,840 Speaker 6: Us at SECUREAI noow dot org and you can follow 291 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 6: us on all the social media channels secure AI. 292 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:14,600 Speaker 5: Now, thank you, brother, appreciate you, Thank you, Steve. Knowledge 293 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:19,360 Speaker 5: is power, all right, it's one of the we talk 294 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 5: at this show about human agency. Your agency, not some 295 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 5: digital aegentic entity. Is what they're trying to do is 296 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 5: replace you with that. Don't take debate. They know exactly 297 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 5: what they're doing. The very smart Uh. Your agency is 298 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 5: all important. That's the reason we've bent the arc of 299 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:41,280 Speaker 5: history on this show with you. You're the ones that 300 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 5: do it. Birch Goldt take your phone out, use your 301 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 5: agency on this maybe for yourself. 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This makes your whole crusade to rid 307 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 5: this country of these phony work visas, the ones that 308 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 5: come through college and lead right to H one visa 309 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 5: flooded the nation with essentially low skilled tech workers even 310 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 5: more important because AI is first coming to take out 311 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 5: as I say, lower managerial, administrative, and UH in tech. 312 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:35,080 Speaker 5: And so this makes the this makes the clearing call. 313 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 5: It's one of the reasons that the tech bros, the 314 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 5: oligarchs don't want to get rid of H one B visas. 315 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 5: They want this transition with they and they don't care 316 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:47,239 Speaker 5: about flooding the country with people that can't be assimilated. 317 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:50,000 Speaker 5: They have, they have, It's not their problem. They're living 318 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 5: in a whole different you know, it's like the Middle Ages. 319 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 5: They're living in these fortified uh you know, basically enclaves, 320 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:00,120 Speaker 5: and they don't have to worry about the healthcare, they 321 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 5: don't have to worry about the social breakdown, they don't 322 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 5: have to worry about here in Texas. This is why 323 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:08,840 Speaker 5: I tell people we are here for the Sharia law 324 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 5: and for because nobody wanted to talk about it, and 325 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 5: we gave a permission structure to do that starting at 326 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 5: the conference a couple of weeks ago, and it's caught 327 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 5: on fire. The New York Times has an article from 328 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 5: I think two days ago saying, all of a sudden, 329 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 5: it's become the number one issue in the Republican primary 330 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:27,040 Speaker 5: out of nowhere. The care and the Muslim Brotherhood, nobody 331 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 5: saw this coming. I tell people now that we've shifted 332 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 5: the show down here because we're here until at least 333 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 5: the third of March with the with the primary. I 334 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 5: tell people right below, the interest in stopping Sharia law 335 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 5: and really stopping this Islamic invasion is this issue at 336 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 5: H one B Visas. It's everywhere I go, every meeting, 337 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 5: I'm in everything I talk. People pull me aside and say, hey, 338 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 5: this is huge, and I'm all in and we're dedicated. 339 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 5: But these H one B Visas, you guys have got 340 00:16:57,160 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 5: to work on stopping this because it's destroying the state 341 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 5: to Texas, and now you couple it with artificial intelligence 342 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 5: and artificial intelligence. The companies alone besides Equay, are going 343 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 5: to put in They're raising I think eight n they're 344 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 5: going to spend eight hundred billion dollars in capex over 345 00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 5: and above government assistance, and a lot of that Bloomberg's 346 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:18,280 Speaker 5: reporting right now, a lot of that's going to be 347 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:21,439 Speaker 5: is going to be borrowed, and it's just making a 348 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 5: huge leverage bet on this technology. And this technology's principal 349 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:32,120 Speaker 5: purpose initially is to eviscerate jobs to drive margin. Rosemary 350 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:32,960 Speaker 5: Jinks your thoughts. 351 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, Steve, if you leave AI aside, we have 352 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:42,879 Speaker 3: already gone well down the road to decimating our domestic 353 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:47,240 Speaker 3: labor force with our immigration system. So the fact that 354 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 3: we have made cheap foreign labor available to employers means 355 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:57,320 Speaker 3: that American workers are second choice already. So you add 356 00:17:57,359 --> 00:18:01,879 Speaker 3: AI on top of that, American workers because third choice. 357 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 3: And there's a new study that has just come out 358 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:09,720 Speaker 3: by George Borjas, who's a Harvard Econ economist who is fantastic. 359 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:13,479 Speaker 3: It's done by the National Bureau of Economic Research, and 360 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:17,480 Speaker 3: it shows that h one b's across the board are 361 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:23,080 Speaker 3: paid sixteen percent less than American workers in the same jobs. However, 362 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:27,919 Speaker 3: if you drill down to occupations like software developers, the 363 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:32,520 Speaker 3: difference is thirty percent. So employers can save almost a 364 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:35,960 Speaker 3: third of the wages by hiring an H one B 365 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 3: instead of an American. So that means that even if 366 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 3: you have one hundred thousand dollars fee on top of 367 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:46,840 Speaker 3: the H one B approval process, like President Trump did, 368 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:50,720 Speaker 3: the employer makes that back within four years and it's 369 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:55,560 Speaker 3: pure profit after that. So we have put American workers 370 00:18:56,000 --> 00:19:00,399 Speaker 3: second already and now we're talking about putting them third. 371 00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:05,439 Speaker 3: That is not sustainable. We cannot have this, and you 372 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:07,720 Speaker 3: know the first thing we need to do, in my view, 373 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:10,439 Speaker 3: is get rid of these these visas so that we 374 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:13,560 Speaker 3: can stop replacing Americans with cheap foreign labor. And then 375 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:16,719 Speaker 3: we're going to have to deal with AI because we 376 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:20,080 Speaker 3: don't have a country if we don't have solid work 377 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:23,800 Speaker 3: where people can earn a living and have the you know, 378 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:27,480 Speaker 3: the moral support and values that work entails. 379 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:30,160 Speaker 5: The meaning and purpose of your life is a lot 380 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:32,679 Speaker 5: of it is around your work and your family, and 381 00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:35,880 Speaker 5: normally sometimes there's an intersher link, which is fantastic that 382 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:39,320 Speaker 5: that that's what that balance is what makes happy people 383 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 5: who are fulfilled. Let me go back, because every politician 384 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:47,680 Speaker 5: talks about this. You're at Numbers USA for decades. We 385 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 5: used to work it with you all the time at Breitbart, 386 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:52,160 Speaker 5: the in the war room, and then you shifted because 387 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:55,800 Speaker 5: you said, hey, this the battlefield is shifting. And it's 388 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 5: shifting because every politician goes out on the stomp and says, 389 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:02,440 Speaker 5: I'm for protecting American workers. The Democrats say it, the 390 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:06,720 Speaker 5: maga Republicans say it. I mean, that's but behind the scenes, 391 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:09,800 Speaker 5: the reality is the donors want this. You know, the 392 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:13,840 Speaker 5: tech guys, they're they're they're not dumb people. They understand 393 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:18,879 Speaker 5: that saving thirty percent on their basic tech workers means 394 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:23,639 Speaker 5: expanded margins, and expanded margins means higher stock price, and 395 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 5: that's why they're doing this, an economic incentive to do it. Plus, 396 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:30,040 Speaker 5: these workers are not as what I would say, feisty 397 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:33,840 Speaker 5: or as cussed maybe as the as the American workers 398 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 5: they're they're very maliable and that's why you got them. 399 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:39,280 Speaker 5: You know, in Silicon Valley live in x amount to 400 00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:43,000 Speaker 5: a condo and so but this is supported by the 401 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:46,360 Speaker 5: political class. You never hear a discussion about this. This 402 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:49,160 Speaker 5: is why it takes shows like us giving a platform 403 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:51,120 Speaker 5: to people like you that are in there. Now you've 404 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 5: set up a a index that we can see this, 405 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 5: just like the Heritage and other people have had index 406 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:01,919 Speaker 5: and conservatism, and you're at the forefront of legislation. But 407 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:04,480 Speaker 5: we're in a situation now with the very modicum and 408 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:09,119 Speaker 5: basics of the stop Election Fraud. We can't even get 409 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:12,000 Speaker 5: it considered by the Senate. Where do we really stand 410 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:13,639 Speaker 5: and what do we have to do? What is the 411 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:16,480 Speaker 5: call to action to make sure that we can finally 412 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:19,639 Speaker 5: lance the boil right and drain all the pus out 413 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 5: about the H one B visas and that will lead 414 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 5: us to a more tournament other things. Ause you've been 415 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 5: working NonStop to try to get legislation, but it's pushing 416 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 5: your like Prometheus pushing a rock up hill. 417 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's a big hill. It's more like a mountain. 418 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:38,200 Speaker 3: We are going to, first of all, have to get 419 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:40,639 Speaker 3: the Senate to move to the talking filibuster. There's no 420 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 3: other way that we can get serious election integrity legislation done. 421 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:51,640 Speaker 3: The Save America Act past the House yesterday it did 422 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:53,800 Speaker 3: it only got one Democrat, so we know we're not 423 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:57,359 Speaker 3: going to get Democrats in the Senate except for you know, 424 00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:01,960 Speaker 3: potentially Fetterman. I don't know, but we're going to have 425 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:05,040 Speaker 3: to get that to President Trump's desk, and quite frankly, 426 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:07,720 Speaker 3: I don't care how they do it. They have got 427 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:11,360 Speaker 3: to do it. I will say the filibuster has saved 428 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 3: America from amnesty several times in the past. But going 429 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:19,200 Speaker 3: to the talking filibuster does not require a rule change. 430 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 3: It is not the nuclear option, so we are in 431 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:27,480 Speaker 3: favor of that. In terms of getting immigration legislation, we're 432 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:30,680 Speaker 3: just not there yet with Congress, and you're absolutely right 433 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:34,679 Speaker 3: it's because of the donors. You know, there are members 434 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 3: of Congress whose own children are in tech fields, have 435 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 3: graduated for with STEM degrees, and they can't find jobs. 436 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:47,360 Speaker 3: So the message is getting through, but they still need 437 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 3: the cash for reelection campaigns. We have got to defeat 438 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 3: the message of the donors, and the way we do 439 00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:59,240 Speaker 3: that is constant pressure on members of Congress. If you 440 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 3: look at our website, iapaction dot Com, you can find out, 441 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:06,200 Speaker 3: as Steve said, exactly where your member of Congress, both 442 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:09,359 Speaker 3: the House and the Senate stands on immigration issues. It 443 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 3: is a ranking system based essentially on sports rankings that 444 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:17,200 Speaker 3: tells you everything you need to know about what your 445 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:20,119 Speaker 3: member of Congress believes or doesn't believe, and is willing 446 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 3: to stand up for or not. And they need encouragement 447 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 3: when they do good things, and they need to be 448 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:29,360 Speaker 3: held accountable when they do stupid things, because unfortunately it's 449 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 3: the stupid things that tend to prevail. 450 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:35,720 Speaker 5: What about the Executive Order, Let's go through that, because no, 451 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:38,399 Speaker 5: we said this thing can't be reformed. It's too corrupt, 452 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 5: it's allowed too many people in. And they say, oh, 453 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:43,120 Speaker 5: it's only like fifty thousand year. That doesn't include the universities, 454 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:45,400 Speaker 5: does include all these other businesses they're learning in millions. 455 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:49,200 Speaker 5: The reforms President Trump tried to do in the Executive Order, 456 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 5: they're clearly not this is my take, they're clearly not 457 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 5: going to work. If you were sitting now with President 458 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:57,200 Speaker 5: Trump and said, hey, I think we need to tweak 459 00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 5: or recast the Executive Order, what would be your record 460 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:00,639 Speaker 5: coommendation to. 461 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:05,240 Speaker 3: Him, Well, first of all, we absolutely must get rid 462 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:09,640 Speaker 3: of the OPT program, the Optional Practical Training, because that 463 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:13,399 Speaker 3: is the pipeline that goes directly from our universities that 464 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 3: carries foreign students to these tech jobs and gives the 465 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:21,879 Speaker 3: employers a tax break to hire the foreign students instead 466 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:24,760 Speaker 3: of American graduates, and then they go straight into the 467 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:28,199 Speaker 3: H one B. So if we break that pipeline, we 468 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:33,479 Speaker 3: can essentially prevent more It won't be you know, full scale, 469 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:35,960 Speaker 3: but we can prevent more people from getting to the 470 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:38,920 Speaker 3: H one B system because the employers won't know about 471 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:42,159 Speaker 3: them because they haven't hired them as opt students. So 472 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:46,159 Speaker 3: that's one major thing. This study that I referred to, 473 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 3: the Borjas study, actually looked at the president's one hundred 474 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:55,960 Speaker 3: thousand dollars fee and said that's not enough to make employee. 475 00:24:56,000 --> 00:25:00,400 Speaker 3: To disincentivize employers from hiring H one b's beg because 476 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 3: they save so much money. And one of the reasons 477 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:06,680 Speaker 3: they save so much money with this thirty percent discounting 478 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:11,440 Speaker 3: wages is because they can keep the H one B indefinitely. 479 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:13,760 Speaker 3: You know, it's supposed to be a three year visa 480 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:18,240 Speaker 3: that's renewable once. Instead they're staying here for forty to 481 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:22,200 Speaker 3: fifty years because the employers sponsor them for a green card. 482 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:25,560 Speaker 3: That needs to be shut off. 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Kurt Mills joins, Kurt, what I found interesting there, 512 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:20,119 Speaker 5: there's really not been a readout or maybe I missed it, 513 00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:22,720 Speaker 5: but it hasn't been. At a three hour meeting yesterday 514 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:25,560 Speaker 5: withn't that Yahoo, I think sixth time he's been over. 515 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:26,560 Speaker 3: Uh. 516 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:29,800 Speaker 5: They had the in the pre meeting had about the 517 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:32,720 Speaker 5: border piece, and in the meeting they talked about that. 518 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 5: They also talked about the redevelopment of Gosam, which is 519 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:38,640 Speaker 5: a very high priority for President Trump, that the Qatar 520 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:43,160 Speaker 5: and in the Turks. Qatar will provide the financing most 521 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:45,960 Speaker 5: of it, are organize it, and the Turks will oversee 522 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:51,320 Speaker 5: the security. And he's pressing forward with that as his advisors, 523 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:54,600 Speaker 5: Jared and company are doing it. But we didn't hear 524 00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:58,640 Speaker 5: a lot. A lot hasn't leaked about what's going on, 525 00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:02,280 Speaker 5: although there's still asked sads moving into the region. So 526 00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:03,560 Speaker 5: what's the latest that you're hearing. 527 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:07,560 Speaker 8: Yeah, so I think yesterday was a big deal for 528 00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 8: potentially avoiding a war with Iran. Number one, as you 529 00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:15,320 Speaker 8: flagged yesterday, the Prime Minister of Israel's interest into the 530 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:17,720 Speaker 8: White House was unusual. It was done through the side door. 531 00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:21,600 Speaker 8: That's not really how ahead of state is generally treated. 532 00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:24,320 Speaker 8: Mark Rubio looked a little bit uncomfortable with him, and 533 00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:26,680 Speaker 8: the Israeli press is picked up on this, saying that 534 00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:29,480 Speaker 8: Netya who's visit this time was done with much less 535 00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:35,119 Speaker 8: pomp and circumstance, and that that was relevant. Secondarily, the Turks, 536 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:39,520 Speaker 8: most notably the Foreign Minister of fi DN, is messaging explicitly. 537 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:42,040 Speaker 8: It's unclear if this is true, but they haven't gotten 538 00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:45,480 Speaker 8: anything wrong yet. They are messaging explicitly that the administration 539 00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:49,320 Speaker 8: is weighing a low enrichment deal with the Iranians. This 540 00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:52,320 Speaker 8: is a big deal. So essentially, what this means is 541 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:54,560 Speaker 8: that the US would agree to a deal that would 542 00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:57,800 Speaker 8: have a lower, much lower potentially level of enrichment than 543 00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:01,120 Speaker 8: the Obama era JCPOA. So it's a better it's a 544 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:03,360 Speaker 8: stronger deal, but it also avoids a war. 545 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:06,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, but this would be totally I mean, I thought 546 00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:09,960 Speaker 5: President Trump's been pretty adamant. And this is why Netnyahu 547 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:13,320 Speaker 5: wants to expand the conversation. It was zero enrichment, zero 548 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:17,120 Speaker 5: ability to make weapons, and also going to the ballistic missiles, 549 00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:21,560 Speaker 5: no delivery systems. In fact, I think even shorter ballistic 550 00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:24,600 Speaker 5: missiles that can hit Tel Aviv on a tactical basis, 551 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:28,640 Speaker 5: BB wants that expanded to that at a minimum. Plus 552 00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:31,920 Speaker 5: he wants to talk about additional efforts for regime change. 553 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:34,800 Speaker 5: I mean, they want to start shooting immediately, but even 554 00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:38,040 Speaker 5: in the negotiation discussion, it's some sort of regime during discussion, 555 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:41,040 Speaker 5: how do we go from that agenda, I mean one 556 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 5: from the march to kinetic war to the broader agenda 557 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:48,080 Speaker 5: now to an agenda looks like that looks like something 558 00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:50,480 Speaker 5: a deal can get done, because, as you said yesterday 559 00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:53,440 Speaker 5: and so many people I've talked about a lot of 560 00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:56,040 Speaker 5: the Persians, particularly our GC guy, saying hey, if we're 561 00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:58,440 Speaker 5: going to get stripped of everything, let's just get it 562 00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:01,240 Speaker 5: on now. And that's one of the reasons Katar these meetings, 563 00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:04,240 Speaker 5: the three armings took place yesterday and cut and Cutter 564 00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:08,080 Speaker 5: and in other places that are saying, hey, we're exposed here, 565 00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 5: these guys can may lighten off rockets all over the place. 566 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:13,600 Speaker 5: We don't have the defenses that other people have, and 567 00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:15,720 Speaker 5: they're going to take down our oil and gas industry 568 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:17,800 Speaker 5: for maybe half a decade. Sir. 569 00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:21,600 Speaker 8: I think that the first point you make, there's some ambiguity. 570 00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:24,880 Speaker 8: The President has been most adamant about no nuclear weapon. 571 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:28,440 Speaker 8: He hasn't been and has been very conspicuous throughout this process. 572 00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:31,920 Speaker 8: He hasn't been adamant generally speaking about no enrichment or 573 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:34,920 Speaker 8: nobilistic missiles. These are the Israeli asks, and he has 574 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:38,040 Speaker 8: not been messaging that unless it's like a true social 575 00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:40,200 Speaker 8: that occasionally seems almost like it was written for him, 576 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:43,880 Speaker 8: or an off off the cough comment. The clear messaging 577 00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:46,960 Speaker 8: is no nuclear weapon. That was reiterated yesterday by Vice 578 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:49,720 Speaker 8: President Vance, which I think was also notable because I 579 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:52,440 Speaker 8: don't think Vice President Vans would talk out of turn 580 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:55,400 Speaker 8: from the President. So the administration's policy at the top 581 00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:58,080 Speaker 8: level seems to be no nuclear weapon. If that is 582 00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:00,640 Speaker 8: the policy, then there is a deal to be struck 583 00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:04,040 Speaker 8: that is better than the Obama JCPOA with the Iranians, 584 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:06,160 Speaker 8: and that seems to be what we're talking about here. 585 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:10,240 Speaker 8: If the deals criterion are widened to quote zero enrichment, 586 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:12,680 Speaker 8: which means zero nuclear you know, maasually we were talking 587 00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:15,320 Speaker 8: about zero versus one point five at this point. If 588 00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:18,800 Speaker 8: it's widened to that, and it's widened too noblistic missiles. 589 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:21,720 Speaker 8: From the perspective of the Iranian regime, they'd rather just 590 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:24,000 Speaker 8: go to war because they may survive the war and 591 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:25,560 Speaker 8: keep their weapons. 592 00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:28,920 Speaker 5: I want to go to Turkey for a second. You know, 593 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:33,080 Speaker 5: President Trump has had a long term relationship with Ertawan, 594 00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:35,920 Speaker 5: and let's be blunt, he thinks quite highly of you. 595 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:41,320 Speaker 5: When when we had the President Trump went to Kanesset 596 00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:43,280 Speaker 5: and you had those two meetings, you had one at 597 00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:47,840 Speaker 5: at the resort I think on the Red Sea that 598 00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:49,960 Speaker 5: you know, it was going to be the signing of 599 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:52,640 Speaker 5: the actual document, this is the Gaza Peace Document and 600 00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:56,000 Speaker 5: the Redevelopment Document. President Trump went to the Kanesset first. 601 00:31:56,920 --> 00:32:00,120 Speaker 5: Then he went and it was announced when he was 602 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:02,280 Speaker 5: getting ready to leave that Bibi was now invited was 603 00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:06,320 Speaker 5: going to attend. As President Trump's heading there, Ertawan's coming 604 00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:09,960 Speaker 5: in his jet and puts out and I think tells people, hey, 605 00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:12,440 Speaker 5: if Netna, I can't have netnya who in a meeting 606 00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:14,040 Speaker 5: there it's got to do. And then all of a sudden, 607 00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:16,680 Speaker 5: you know Netna, who came up with some reason that 608 00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:18,840 Speaker 5: they had a religious holiday or he had to go 609 00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:23,920 Speaker 5: to a religious observance. The President has also been very 610 00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:27,719 Speaker 5: adamant about and he's been he hasn't budget on this, 611 00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:29,880 Speaker 5: that Qatar is going to have a major role here 612 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:34,240 Speaker 5: and what I call the two state solution in Gaza, 613 00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:37,360 Speaker 5: the foothold into Israel where you're gonna have two point 614 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:41,240 Speaker 5: two million Palestinians Qatar money. And if you look at 615 00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:45,280 Speaker 5: the drawings, it's a new Tel Aviv or Miami Beach 616 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:49,360 Speaker 5: on steroids. That's what they're committed to build. And the 617 00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:51,400 Speaker 5: Cutter is talking about putting up the kind of money. 618 00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:57,320 Speaker 5: The Turks will be security, and they'll be organizing the 619 00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:01,160 Speaker 5: Egyptians and UAE, you know the military forces. Now, people 620 00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:03,080 Speaker 5: I talked to in Israel time say that's never going 621 00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:06,760 Speaker 5: to happen, that's all a fantasy, etc. But talk to 622 00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:10,480 Speaker 5: about this foreign minister today, he was pretty adamant that 623 00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:15,400 Speaker 5: the actual are in discussions for a low level of enrichment. 624 00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:20,920 Speaker 5: And given President Trump's relationship with Ertawan, and you heard 625 00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:22,480 Speaker 5: the Vice President what he said here, I say, no 626 00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:25,560 Speaker 5: one in the American government has countered that. And given 627 00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:29,480 Speaker 5: President Trump's relationship with Ertuwan, there may be something there, 628 00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:30,960 Speaker 5: is it not. 629 00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:33,640 Speaker 8: No for sure, And I think it's interesting that you 630 00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:36,680 Speaker 8: link the Iran in Palestine files. It's something that I 631 00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:39,360 Speaker 8: was told sort of overnight by someone who would know, 632 00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:42,680 Speaker 8: is that there are elements of the administration, even potentially 633 00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:46,360 Speaker 8: people like Jery Kushner, who are I think ambiguous players 634 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:49,920 Speaker 8: onto these politics, who think solving the Iran issue non 635 00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:53,400 Speaker 8: violently is potentially the key to also solving the Palestinian 636 00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:56,520 Speaker 8: issue non violently. Now, of course this isn't what Benjaminina 637 00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:59,120 Speaker 8: who wants. I think he wants the continuation of the 638 00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:01,080 Speaker 8: war on both and so this would be bad for 639 00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:04,400 Speaker 8: him politically, and thus that's why he's lobbying here in Washington. 640 00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:08,440 Speaker 8: But as to the Turkish relationship, yes, it's probably one 641 00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:11,319 Speaker 8: of the most under explored, if not the most under 642 00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:16,040 Speaker 8: explored relationship in geopolitics. Trump and Aradiwan quietly have gotten 643 00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:18,360 Speaker 8: on for some time since the first term, as I 644 00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:21,760 Speaker 8: think you allude to, and the Turks have been very 645 00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:25,399 Speaker 8: very careful players throughout all of this. There's no love 646 00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:30,640 Speaker 8: loss between Turkey and Iran, and Turkey repeatedly, both on 647 00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:33,399 Speaker 8: and off the record, will assail the Iranians for use 648 00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:35,880 Speaker 8: of proxies in the region. But what they don't want. 649 00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:38,920 Speaker 8: What they don't want is a all out US Israeli 650 00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:42,520 Speaker 8: regime change war in the region. Number One, they don't 651 00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:44,879 Speaker 8: want to deal with a flow of refugees. There's been 652 00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:48,000 Speaker 8: tons of refugees that Turkey has handled from the Syria War. 653 00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:50,880 Speaker 8: But number two, they know that they'll be next on 654 00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:55,080 Speaker 8: the hit list for Israel if Israelis are able to 655 00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:58,279 Speaker 8: convince the Americans to get involved. Frankly, I have heard 656 00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:01,040 Speaker 8: when Netyagu comes to Washington the time, he talks about 657 00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:03,000 Speaker 8: Turkey as much as he talks about Iran. 658 00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:07,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, look, the ancient enmity between those two, 659 00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:10,839 Speaker 5: the Turks and the Persians, is a historical fact. Look, 660 00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:14,160 Speaker 5: I think Ertawan sees himself as a man of history, 661 00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:17,640 Speaker 5: a historic figure, maybe even a world historic figure, and 662 00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:20,919 Speaker 5: he is trying to reverse World War One. He's trying 663 00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:24,360 Speaker 5: to reverse you know, General Allenby and lawrenceer Arabia, the 664 00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:26,960 Speaker 5: Arab revolt, all of it that took the two Holy 665 00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:30,480 Speaker 5: Sites away from the Ottoman empire and he's working with katar. 666 00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:33,920 Speaker 5: I believe he wants to have, you know, leave with 667 00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:38,319 Speaker 5: an Ottoman empire and a caliphate that controls the two 668 00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:41,160 Speaker 5: holy sites. Now that is quite controversial, but I think 669 00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:43,520 Speaker 5: his plan is pretty straightforward. And like I said, he 670 00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:47,640 Speaker 5: sees himself as historical figure and President Trump has a 671 00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:50,000 Speaker 5: strong relationship with him. You can see that every step 672 00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,680 Speaker 5: of the way here. President Trump has a strong relationship 673 00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:54,680 Speaker 5: with him. So that's going to happen. I want to 674 00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:56,640 Speaker 5: go back to that point you make that not enough 675 00:35:56,640 --> 00:36:00,280 Speaker 5: people talk about the two files kind of working together. 676 00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:04,040 Speaker 5: President Trump's a man of peace and he's a business guy. 677 00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:06,640 Speaker 5: You can tell that the Abraham Accords is not a 678 00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:09,879 Speaker 5: political deal. The reason you were having sign up from 679 00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:14,680 Speaker 5: it is that it's a business and financial deal. Remember 680 00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:19,759 Speaker 5: the people running the Golf emirates, because these are not democracies, 681 00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:24,480 Speaker 5: they're not politicians, they're business people. They're business people in 682 00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:26,360 Speaker 5: an area of oil and gas, and now they're taking 683 00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:30,080 Speaker 5: their excess cash and they're putting it. Sometimes works, sometimes 684 00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:31,839 Speaker 5: it doesn't work, but they're trying to be high tech. 685 00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:38,920 Speaker 5: Both kutar Uae the Saudi's they're putting in their business people, 686 00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:42,399 Speaker 5: and they look at things to a business perspective. That's 687 00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:44,960 Speaker 5: why the Abraham accords as kind of shaky, as that 688 00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:50,920 Speaker 5: Benn has actually worked here, you actually have another business transaction. 689 00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:55,480 Speaker 5: It's not a political transaction. It's a real estate development, 690 00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:58,200 Speaker 5: massive capital. You've got to have security that has a 691 00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:01,720 Speaker 5: political oversight from it. But it's a very high priority 692 00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:04,680 Speaker 5: for President Trump. Anybody that doesn't get that doesn't understand 693 00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:07,160 Speaker 5: what's going on. And that's why he's been adamant with 694 00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:09,799 Speaker 5: all this thing. He says, these are small issues and 695 00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:12,480 Speaker 5: we can sign him the disarming Hamas and people I 696 00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:14,719 Speaker 5: know in Israel, I know some very well saying that's 697 00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:17,719 Speaker 5: not a small issue. They've got to be disarmed. But 698 00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:22,319 Speaker 5: that's why I think they've linked now going forward with 699 00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:26,520 Speaker 5: the Turkish and the Qatar involvement to a broader perspective. 700 00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:28,400 Speaker 5: I would just tell you, I think people in the 701 00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:33,200 Speaker 5: region fear that the opening couple of salvos on any 702 00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:36,480 Speaker 5: type of military interdiction they're not prepared for it have 703 00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:41,760 Speaker 5: massive business consequences for people like in Doha and Abu Dhabi, 704 00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:45,040 Speaker 5: in Dubai and other places when missills start hitting. 705 00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:48,279 Speaker 8: Kurt Mills, No I think you're quite right to pick 706 00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:52,040 Speaker 8: up on this business element as the potential actual wedge 707 00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:56,440 Speaker 8: between the US and the Israelis at this point. The 708 00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:59,960 Speaker 8: fact is war will be bad for the kind of business, 709 00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:03,720 Speaker 8: the sort of investment in building infrastructure in the region 710 00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:06,520 Speaker 8: that both the administration wants to get involved in and 711 00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:10,800 Speaker 8: also Trump's own family. These investments in the Gulf won't 712 00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:14,120 Speaker 8: be worth anything if they're basically target practice for Iranian missiles. 713 00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:16,439 Speaker 8: And so I think this is while you know, Trump 714 00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:19,320 Speaker 8: has gone pretty far with net Nyahu, this is actually 715 00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:24,200 Speaker 8: a potential point of departure between their visions because this 716 00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:26,720 Speaker 8: is not the net Yahoo vision. The net Yahoo vision 717 00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:30,120 Speaker 8: is to atomize and to chop up the Arab and 718 00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:34,080 Speaker 8: Muslim worlds, and he views that as basically mowing the 719 00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:37,080 Speaker 8: lawn and ensuring Israeli security. I'm not so sure that 720 00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:40,080 Speaker 8: actually ensures Israeli security, but that's his vision for his 721 00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:43,640 Speaker 8: country since the nineties, and that is pretty pretty at 722 00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:49,640 Speaker 8: loggerheads with a expanding financialized Arab world where Trump and 723 00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:53,040 Speaker 8: his family can build hotels and Kushner can build hedge 724 00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:56,560 Speaker 8: funds based in Riyad. And so I think this is 725 00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:59,640 Speaker 8: actually what could actually stop and all out war at 726 00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:03,560 Speaker 8: the eleven hour, and you know, at this point you 727 00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:05,680 Speaker 8: got to take what you can get. If this prevents 728 00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:08,839 Speaker 8: of war. I think that's that sort of reamersence of 729 00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:10,320 Speaker 8: financial peace theory. 730 00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:15,399 Speaker 5: It's it's you'd have to go pretty far to look 731 00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:17,680 Speaker 5: as bad as guys as the Alley Totals and the 732 00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:20,520 Speaker 5: Mulis point I make Number one, having been over there 733 00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:24,440 Speaker 5: at the beginning of this fiasco is that as I 734 00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:27,120 Speaker 5: remember the people in the streets now and their parents, 735 00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:30,920 Speaker 5: are they overthrew We were involved, I mean Persia in 736 00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:34,000 Speaker 5: the shaw of Iran, in Iran, that was our ally 737 00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:37,200 Speaker 5: like nobody else. That's all you know, from Johnson to Nixon, 738 00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:40,440 Speaker 5: these are the guys. You know, they had the biggest armament, 739 00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:43,000 Speaker 5: the biggest army, They bought the most weapons, they had 740 00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:46,200 Speaker 5: the most modern military and you know, the show was 741 00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:50,200 Speaker 5: far from being a perfect guy. They had with Savaka 742 00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:52,880 Speaker 5: and these turfs, and they were turfed out. And they 743 00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:56,879 Speaker 5: were turfed out because people wanted Islamic republic. And guess what, 744 00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:00,520 Speaker 5: since nineteen seventy nine, they've got one. You can tell 745 00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:04,600 Speaker 5: the countries that shattered. President Trump and these economic sanctions 746 00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:07,759 Speaker 5: plus Scott Bessont. The the US media hasn't said a 747 00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:10,040 Speaker 5: lot about it. If you look at the regional media, 748 00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:14,160 Speaker 5: they're all over Scott Bessont went and destroyed their currency. 749 00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:16,600 Speaker 5: I mean, he crushed it. It's one of the reasons 750 00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:18,840 Speaker 5: that the that the that they took to the streets. 751 00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:22,560 Speaker 5: The economic sanctions are working now. Netahuo keeps saying, and 752 00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:24,880 Speaker 5: Levin and these guys keep saying, you can't trust the modists, 753 00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:27,319 Speaker 5: you can't trust any deal. I think the one thing 754 00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:32,239 Speaker 5: they're missing is that the president has trust, whether you 755 00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:35,480 Speaker 5: like it or not, he has trust in Cutter, and 756 00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:39,000 Speaker 5: he has trust in Turkey in the UAE. Let's take 757 00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:41,640 Speaker 5: a show commercial break. Want I want Kurt to stick around. 758 00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:44,760 Speaker 5: We've got to talk more about this in a moment. 759 00:40:44,800 --> 00:41:01,320 Speaker 5: In the words. 760 00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:02,080 Speaker 4: He use, your host, Stephen k Ban. 761 00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:12,000 Speaker 5: Get the Patriots edition of the End of the Dollar Empire, 762 00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:15,520 Speaker 5: a historic document, I might add, starting in twenty twenty one, 763 00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:18,600 Speaker 5: gold I think of a thousand bucks over five thousand 764 00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:22,040 Speaker 5: a day, not to sell you gold, but to allow 765 00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:25,880 Speaker 5: you to learn the process of what drives the value 766 00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:28,439 Speaker 5: of gold. End of the Dollar. 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Trump. 775 00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:00,439 Speaker 5: Kurt Mills, I want everybody to get your solfial media 776 00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:02,480 Speaker 5: and go to American Conservative. I want to keep up. 777 00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:04,320 Speaker 5: I want people to keep up with you. You've got 778 00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:08,160 Speaker 5: a quite different take on their Inundated with Fox News 779 00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:10,600 Speaker 5: and the neocons all day, you need to have another alternative. 780 00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:12,560 Speaker 5: Where do people go? 781 00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:17,520 Speaker 8: Yeah, for sure you go to ww dot the Americanconservative 782 00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:20,000 Speaker 8: dot com. We were a magazine founded by Patrick J. 783 00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:23,320 Speaker 8: Buchanan and other conservatives in two thousand and two against 784 00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:27,160 Speaker 8: the Iraq War. We are the encore generation that are 785 00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:30,000 Speaker 8: working against a new Iran war today in the twenty twenties. 786 00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:33,760 Speaker 8: And you can find my own information at at Kurt 787 00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:38,000 Speaker 8: Mills at CRT M I l LS on X and yeah, 788 00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:39,279 Speaker 8: you can find me there, and I think, you know, 789 00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:42,560 Speaker 8: look very quickly, the point you made about nineteen seventy 790 00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:46,200 Speaker 8: nine is very useful. You know a lot of times. 791 00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:48,600 Speaker 8: You know, Lindsey Graham is arguing that Trump should be 792 00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:52,040 Speaker 8: quote Reagan plus, putting aside the hilarity that Trump doesn't 793 00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:54,720 Speaker 8: really seem to like that name. Something that Trump actually 794 00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:59,040 Speaker 8: should avoid is becoming Carter plus. When the Iranian Revolution 795 00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:03,040 Speaker 8: first happened, and what occurred is that the Hawks and 796 00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:06,920 Speaker 8: proto neocons around Virginski urged them not to work with 797 00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:08,920 Speaker 8: the new regime. You don't have to like the new regime, 798 00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:11,680 Speaker 8: but the fact is they controlled Iran. They argued for 799 00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:14,760 Speaker 8: you know, accepting the show to the US, they argued 800 00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:20,440 Speaker 8: for the special operation Operation Eagles Claw that failed. And 801 00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:23,400 Speaker 8: so you know, yes, Trump is probably pretty high on 802 00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:26,880 Speaker 8: the Special Forces operation in Venezuela to the Captain Maduro, 803 00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:29,600 Speaker 8: but it's not a clear with the military options here, 804 00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:31,800 Speaker 8: and there's tons of risk and not a lot of 805 00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:35,080 Speaker 8: hot upside, and the President Trump would not want to 806 00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:38,320 Speaker 8: repeat Jimmy Carter's mistake by doing intervention in Iran. 807 00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:41,040 Speaker 5: In fact, CNBC has got a good article day, but 808 00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:44,239 Speaker 5: all the alternatives how tough the military was. I was 809 00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:47,719 Speaker 5: also there for the work up for Eagules Claw. Kurt, 810 00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:49,279 Speaker 5: thank you so much. Look forward to having me back 811 00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:51,920 Speaker 5: on staffer tomorrow. This is a fluid situation, folks, so 812 00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:57,640 Speaker 5: keep up to date with Kurt NonStop. Taje Gil, You've 813 00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:01,960 Speaker 5: been what sixteen eighteen times thoughts about a military interdiction 814 00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:04,800 Speaker 5: here and then I want to pivot after sixty seconds 815 00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:06,520 Speaker 5: and send me some of the best coffee in the world. 816 00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:10,719 Speaker 9: All right, Yeah, I don't think we should go back 817 00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:13,160 Speaker 9: into it or go into Iran. I don't think. I mean, 818 00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:15,080 Speaker 9: if we can bomb them again and get away with it, 819 00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:16,839 Speaker 9: that's one thing, But how many times can we do 820 00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:20,880 Speaker 9: that and get away with it cleanly? I think, you know, 821 00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:24,680 Speaker 9: this Venezuela thing went smooth, but I think we're going 822 00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:27,880 Speaker 9: to get in trouble attacking Iran. I don't think we 823 00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:30,520 Speaker 9: can get away with doing it over and over. There's 824 00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:32,959 Speaker 9: Chinese aircraft landing in there all the time, all the time. 825 00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:36,120 Speaker 9: There's a Chinese railroad that goes into Iran. They're partnering 826 00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:40,000 Speaker 9: up with Russia. They've helped Russia extensively in Ukrainia. Now 827 00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:45,480 Speaker 9: it's Russia's turn to help Iran. So if we if 828 00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:47,720 Speaker 9: I think, if we get tangled up and Iran again, 829 00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:51,479 Speaker 9: it's not going to be clean like like the last time, 830 00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:54,640 Speaker 9: and like Venezuela. I think it's going to get dirty. 831 00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:56,239 Speaker 9: And then if it does turn into a boots on 832 00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:59,239 Speaker 9: the ground thing, there's going to be a wave of refugees. 833 00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:02,440 Speaker 9: And guess where they're going to America and Europe and 834 00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:04,120 Speaker 9: where you have enough of that. Look what's going on 835 00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:07,160 Speaker 9: in Texas dealing with the Muslims down there setting up 836 00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:10,440 Speaker 9: Sharia law and invading the country. There's already fifty million 837 00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:15,120 Speaker 9: Muslims in Europe, and that's because of the twenty eleven 838 00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:18,240 Speaker 9: twenty twelve Arab spring from Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama. 839 00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:22,279 Speaker 9: They toppled you know, Syria, Libya and all the other 840 00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:24,920 Speaker 9: countries in the Middle East, and the wave of refugees 841 00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:27,799 Speaker 9: flooded Europe. And that's what will happen if this thing 842 00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:32,160 Speaker 9: goes sideways and we end up in a prolonged kinetic 843 00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:35,480 Speaker 9: conflict in Iran, There's gonna be waves of refugees and 844 00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:39,120 Speaker 9: they're gonna flood the West. That's that's something I haven't 845 00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:41,120 Speaker 9: heard a lot of people talking about and then this 846 00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:43,640 Speaker 9: is just gonna be the continuation of the Endless Wars. 847 00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:46,759 Speaker 9: And even now if if we don't go connetic in there, 848 00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:51,000 Speaker 9: this is basically a continuations of the kinetic of the 849 00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:54,520 Speaker 9: Endless Wars. For the military industrial complex, just moving that 850 00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:57,800 Speaker 9: naval armada and all the troops to the Middle East 851 00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:02,359 Speaker 9: as leverage. That costs billions of dollars to do that, 852 00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:05,759 Speaker 9: So that is that feeds a military industrial complex. So 853 00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:09,680 Speaker 9: that's basically an extension of the Endless Wars. 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Good idea, bad idea, 878 00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:22,480 Speaker 5: good idea. 879 00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:25,080 Speaker 7: And here's why everyone says, oh, it's been a sign 880 00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:28,120 Speaker 7: of weakness, you guys, This is we have nine months 881 00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:30,839 Speaker 7: before the election. We've got to take the attention off 882 00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:33,400 Speaker 7: of these protests and stuff and put it back on 883 00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:37,080 Speaker 7: the biggest fraud this country's ever seen and the Sharia 884 00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:40,120 Speaker 7: law that's going on in Minnesota. This has to be 885 00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:43,040 Speaker 7: our focus. We have to get back to that. And 886 00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:45,520 Speaker 7: so I look at it a good thing. I mean, 887 00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:49,279 Speaker 7: the president's very smart. 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