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Speaker 1: Oh, here he is. Where in the world is Jonathan

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Speaker 1: Papplewall Before we get into this interview, Pap, I got

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Speaker 1: to hang out with some of your ex teammates and

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Speaker 1: Ian Desmond. Who else was there that you played with?

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Speaker 1: Did you put you know? Will Harris know? Uh? Let

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Speaker 1: you have any rebuttal to your ex Nationals teammates that

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Speaker 1: I was hanging around for a week with.

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Speaker 3: Hey, man, all I gotta say is play hard, party

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Speaker 2: Man, That's it right.

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Speaker 1: They told they told me if there was a story

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Speaker 1: don't know. They've told there were some story that I

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Speaker 1: So let's just go out.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm a known puker.

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Speaker 3: Aj I puke and rally so yeah, you know, long

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Speaker 2: Be ready to play, baby, all.

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Speaker 1: Right, that's fair, that's fair. Speaking of being ready to play,

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Speaker 1: last time we had you on, you were complaining how

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Speaker 1: I watch the fans give them a standing ovation after

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Speaker 2: Well, I tell you what. AJ.

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Speaker 3: There's a guy named ikf Isaiah kinder Philefa who made

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Speaker 2: Much information, and I have a sneaky.

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Speaker 3: Suspicion that that has come to an end and the

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Speaker 2: And they have completely done a one eighty.

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Speaker 3: They have switched away they played, They have switched their

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Speaker 2: And the leader of the pack is Wilson contreres Man.

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Speaker 4: Pat I gotta.

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Speaker 5: I got a theory, uh, coming out of the break.

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Speaker 5: I don't know if you saw this, but coming out

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Speaker 5: you know how Fenway is supposed to be a superpower,

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Speaker 5: there's no way that's going to keep up. There is

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Speaker 4: But the opposite happens.

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Speaker 5: The opposite happens, right, So I feel like we've seen

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Speaker 3: Whatever I do, I do, they have found a way

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Speaker 3: Finally, I think that this young pitching staff has really

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Speaker 3: I said, whatever team goes back to playing without all

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Speaker 3: I think during this streak they bunted six or seven times,

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Speaker 3: I think the guys have had a few player only

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Speaker 3: And like I mentioned earlier, this young pitching staff man

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Speaker 3: Handedly kept them in this and and now you got

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Speaker 3: And I think they realize that and are now using

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Speaker 1: A couple of things. First of all, the clubhouse is better,

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Speaker 1: But it's not the clubhouse that really sucks. It's the

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Speaker 1: It's a long ass walk. You're tired if you're not

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Speaker 1: Wilson Controro's right. You were known to stir it up

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, that's the way it seems. Aja it

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Speaker 2: Hey, you know what, we need to pick it up.

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Speaker 3: And start playing the way this guy plays. Because he

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Speaker 2: Was it part of it? I don't know, but it

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Speaker 1: Is it true? Now? I heard this from certain people

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Speaker 2: No, I I did say though I was on the field.

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Speaker 3: This was on the field. I did tell him. I said, Man,

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Speaker 3: maybe maybe a brawl might turn this thing around. They've

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Speaker 3: I mean, you got four guys in this bullpen all

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Speaker 3: The season, come playoffs, everybody's gonna be looking for bullpen help.

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Speaker 2: You know that. And that's the way it is.

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Speaker 3: And so I gotta give boys in the bullpen up here,

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Speaker 3: In two thousand and seven when we won it all,

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Speaker 5: Man, I believe the numbers on the old pen over

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Speaker 3: They've done it without him. They've done it without Garrett Whitlock.

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Speaker 1: No team has ever won the World Series at one

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Speaker 2: Man, I had no idea about that, Honestly, I didn't have.

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Speaker 3: Only one I knew about was when we brought Ganie

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Speaker 3: If I if I would an aj and I would

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Speaker 1: It roll this man, that was nice. That's nice, you, pat,

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Speaker 1: Thank you. I appreciate that's paybacks for two thousand and

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Speaker 3: Hey, Well, speaking of two thousand and five, y'all a

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Speaker 1: We just dominated wire to wire path we only won eight.

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Speaker 1: that series? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I pitched in that series Game two, I believe. And

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Speaker 3: Big Bobby Jinks man he dealt that whole series too, man,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, that's what. The only thing I remember

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Speaker 1: don't talk about that because I still have nightmares. No,

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Speaker 1: what did Jermaine hell us?

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Speaker 4: Man?

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Speaker 1: Where are you? By the way, are you in Boston?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm in Boston right now.

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Speaker 3: They've got Apple TV game tonight and I'll be back

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Speaker 1: How did they let you be on TV? How do

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Speaker 2: Know, Ay, J Man, Look at this face, man, exactly.

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Speaker 1: That's exactly my point, my point exactly.

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Speaker 2: How this is a TV face? Baby?

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Speaker 1: Hey, Pep, if you said Trevor, please jump in, because

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Speaker 5: I mean, you know, I was gonna jump in on

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Speaker 5: I just watching you guys play, I was like, Wow,

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Speaker 5: I wish, I hope I can do that someday.

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Speaker 4: It worked out. It worked out.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, the Red Sox one of the best stories in

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Speaker 4: I would have agreed with you on.

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Speaker 5: It's this is not actually as surprising, I think to

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Speaker 5: will your Bray you start to turning on a little bit,

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Speaker 4: You know, she has hitting hitting a little bit better.

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Speaker 5: you know, that's how that's how you end up winning

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Speaker 4: Anyways, you got to get that three on home run.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, man, that's my guy, say don Raphael, uh Man,

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Speaker 8: it's to me he has finally figured out how to to.

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Speaker 2: Man you in that bat.

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Speaker 3: What I mean by that is is be able to

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Speaker 2: Right, So he's finally figured that out.

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Speaker 3: You don't see him won two o two right out

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Speaker 2: And uh, I said this, I think a couple of

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Speaker 3: But with the way he plays on both sides of

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Speaker 2: Uh he had. He has the chance to be MVP

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Speaker 1: Pat Before we let you go, what's your favorite restaurant

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Speaker 1: in Boston you're gonna hit on Friday nights since you

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Speaker 2: Uh, Ocean Pride, man, Ocean Prior. Can't go wrong with

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Speaker 2: Ocean Prime out of the season. It's a chain. It's

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Speaker 2: a chain. Yeah, well okay, good choices in Boston.

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Speaker 1: And that's like, that's like saying I want to go

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Speaker 1: to what is it Landry's Seafood right and get the.

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Speaker 2: Many good places?

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Speaker 3: Yeah no, man, no, I'm not an Italian guy, dude,

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Speaker 3: I don't.

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Speaker 2: I don't like all that, you know, them noodles and

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Speaker 2: all that bs man. I just I want steak and

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Speaker 1: What about like Neptune Oyster House, none of that?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's they're they're good. You got Road thirty four.

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Speaker 3: They got good seafood too. So man, it's hard to choose.

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Speaker 3: Bosston's got great restaurants, you know that.

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Speaker 1: I know. But no, none of them noodles, None of

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Speaker 1: no noodles, man. What about a'll go to the Holy

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Speaker 2: No, I'll leave all that up to Jim Rice. Man,

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Speaker 1: All right, all right, Well thanks Pat. If you want

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Speaker 7: And it's real simple, Scottie Braun.

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Speaker 1: that team on the North Side. I don't even want

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Speaker 1: the Chubbs. Patrick Mooney, senior writer for The Athletic and

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Speaker 1: the Tarrek Schooble in your Destinations column. I have not

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Speaker 1: That says why the model says no. But there's a

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Speaker 1: chance for the Cubs to land Schooble. I know it's

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Speaker 1: not gonna happen, so we'll just play Fantasy World for

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Speaker 1: a little bit here.

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Speaker 4: Patrick.

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Speaker 9: You know, the Cubs say there's a non zero chance

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Speaker 9: they'd get Schooble, but I think by the time it

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Speaker 9: comes down to the deadline first, we don't even know

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Speaker 9: if schoobl is gonna get traded or not. I mean

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Speaker 9: that was part of the exercise that my colleague will

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Speaker 9: Sammon you kind of came up with the idea, and

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Speaker 9: Katie Wu helped collaborate on that one. It still feels

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Speaker 9: like the Tigers are taking these I think if they

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Speaker 9: have ten games against sub five hundred teams before the deadline,

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Speaker 9: they still have twenty more games against the teams in

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Speaker 9: front of them in the Central and August in September.

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Speaker 9: So they weren't built to be blown up at the deadline.

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Speaker 9: That's not why you signed Framber or bring back Verlander,

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Speaker 9: or give gliber the qualifying offer. And you know, everyone

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Speaker 9: knows if the Dodgers want Schooble and he's getting traded,

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Speaker 9: they can get him. The Cubs aren't going to like

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Speaker 9: make a better offer than the Brewers if they really

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Speaker 9: want Schooble. I still think, since we're playing fantasy baseball age,

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Speaker 9: I think they wind up with either a lower tier

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Speaker 9: rental starter, or they try to get that guy who's

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Speaker 9: under club control beyond the season.

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Speaker 5: Okay, so we don't know about Terrek Scooble and where

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Speaker 5: he's gonna go. They have not come out of the

466
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Speaker 5: second half like kept firing all cylinders. It's amazing how

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Speaker 5: things are going to change like this all throughout the

468
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Speaker 5: trade deadline. It's literally every team is five hundred. So

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Speaker 5: now they've fallen back a little bit, it's probably become

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Speaker 5: more likely than they are going to sell.

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Speaker 4: What about other guys in this rotation?

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Speaker 5: I know there's been another guy floated who do you

473
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Speaker 5: think is more likely to move from the Tigers? Say

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Speaker 5: they are sellers, Trek Scubele or guy like Casey Mice.

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Speaker 9: It feels like if you trade one, you might as

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Speaker 9: well trade the other. I think you know Scott Harris,

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Speaker 9: you know, I got to know him when he was

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Speaker 9: first starting out working at riley Field under THEO Epstein

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Speaker 9: and Jed Hole and I think if you had to

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Speaker 9: put him in one bucket or the other, he's a

481
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Speaker 9: little more like Jed than THEO in terms of being

482
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Speaker 9: very you know, data driven, bottom line focused, unemotional. You know,

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Speaker 9: we saw what Jed did at the twenty one trade

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Speaker 9: deadline of getting rid of almost all of those remaining

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Speaker 9: key pieces from the twenty sixteen World Series team. And

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Speaker 9: you know, they they didn't connect on every single deal,

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Speaker 9: but they got a superstar in p Crow Armstrong. And

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Speaker 9: I think that, you know, part of this is an

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Speaker 9: eye test, Like it's not just the numbers. I think

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Speaker 9: you get to a point where, at least you know

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Speaker 9: the Cubs in twenty one it was looking at you know,

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Speaker 9: how far are they underneath five hundred? What do the

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Speaker 9: underlying numbers say? Like when you watch this team night tonight,

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Speaker 9: what does it look like? And I think mine are

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Speaker 9: saying is that's kind of what the Tiger's going to

496
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Speaker 9: be doing here for the next week or so. Like

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Speaker 9: they're not in rush. They don't have to trade them.

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Speaker 9: They could still get a compic through the qualifying offer.

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Speaker 9: But you know, I think Scott Harris will not be

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Speaker 9: overly sentimental about this one. He won't be afraid to move,

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Speaker 9: you know, maybe the best pitcher on the planet.

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Speaker 1: All right, so can we pull the tears back up again?

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Speaker 1: I love this. I absolutely love your tiers because there's

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Speaker 1: a couple of things, A couple of teams in here.

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Speaker 1: I want to talk about if we could show that

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Speaker 1: graphic again one tier four small market surprise the Brewers.

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Speaker 1: It shouldn't be a surprise. They need to go for it, right,

508
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Speaker 1: They need to go for it, and they need to

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Speaker 1: get to the World Series. They haven't been there in

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Speaker 1: forever since what nineteen eighty three or eighty two I

511
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Speaker 1: believe it is eighty two. And then you go to

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Speaker 1: Tier three, the Phillies, Yankees, Braves, usual suspects, but then

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Speaker 1: the Rays. So the Rays to me are like the Brewers.

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Speaker 1: The Rays win every year, they're in contention, every year,

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Speaker 1: they make the postseason. They're a nice little story, but

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Speaker 1: they never actually go for that final piece. So if

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Speaker 1: I'm a Brewers fan or I'm a Rais fan, I

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Speaker 1: would be clamoring to my owner, to my GM, we

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Speaker 1: need to go for it. We need to go get

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Speaker 1: Trek Scooble. Give up a couple minor league prospects. The

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Speaker 1: Brewers are supposed to have a ton of them, the

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Speaker 1: Rays are supposed to have a bunch of them. Give

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Speaker 1: away a couple of those, and let's actually really go

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Speaker 1: for it, because if you go MS Harrison, Schooble in

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Speaker 1: any series, you've got a great chance to win it.

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Speaker 1: And if you're the Rais, you have McClanahan and Rasmussen

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Speaker 1: and Schooble, you got another great chance to win with

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Speaker 1: their bullpen. So I wish these two teams two and

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Speaker 1: four are the ones that I really would love to

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Speaker 1: see just all in and go for it.

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Speaker 9: AJ, this is your dream scenario. Get schoobl out of

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Speaker 9: the Ale Central, clearing a path for the White Sox,

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Speaker 9: and it would be like a Cups fan's worst nightmare

534
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Speaker 9: to have Schoobll you know, lined up, you know, potentially

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Speaker 9: for another best of five series. And in that scenario,

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Speaker 9: the Brewers would be rested. I think that's why the

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Speaker 9: Cubs are even less likely to land Schoople if their

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Speaker 9: positions were reversed, if they were in first place, I

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Speaker 9: think they'd be more inclined to do that type of

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Speaker 9: blockbuster deal. Like Jed Hoyer has said it repeatedly that

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Speaker 9: you know that first round by is like winning a

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Speaker 9: playoff series.

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Speaker 1: Your opponent.

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Speaker 9: Comes in, you know, if not decimated, it's certainly in

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Speaker 9: a lesser state, and you get to rest up and

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Speaker 9: line up everything. That's it was a key factor in

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Speaker 9: last year's Cubs Brewers series, the fact that the Cubs,

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Speaker 9: through Matthew Boyd on short rest, they lost that game.

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Speaker 9: The home team won every game in that five game series.

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Speaker 9: And so yeah, I mean the Brewers are interesting. Like

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Speaker 9: you know, Will, Katie and I you know, have done

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Speaker 9: you know a lot of reporting on this for a

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Speaker 9: couple of different projects along with you Ken Rosenthal. And

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Speaker 9: it's funny how the Brewers they made one of the

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Speaker 9: greatest deadline deals ever and they they kind of jumped

556
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Speaker 9: the market on that one to get CC Sabbathia and

557
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Speaker 9: that sort of helped set this foundation in Milwaukee. But like,

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Speaker 9: as they've you become this sort of gold standard for

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Speaker 9: the industry, they've really become extremely disciplined and like stuck

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Speaker 9: to that process, which almost makes them, you know, less

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Speaker 9: likely to pull off a move like that. But I'm

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Speaker 9: with you.

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Speaker 4: I think.

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Speaker 9: They have put together another special season. They've shown that

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Speaker 9: they have this ability to just go out and you know,

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Speaker 9: draft guys, trade for guys, waiver claims, you know, you

567
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Speaker 9: name it, you they find and develop talent. And so

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Speaker 9: you would think that would give them a lot more

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Speaker 9: confidence to go out and make that move because the

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Speaker 9: Cubs and Brewers like put everything into that five game series,

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Speaker 9: and you know for what to get swept by the Dodgers.

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Speaker 4: Okay, so sorry, I just had a cutout. I don't know.

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Speaker 4: Back to me, you may, I agree wholeheartedly.

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Speaker 5: Also, just on the on the school thing, especially with

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Speaker 5: the two teams, you can't make the cases too expensive.

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Speaker 5: He's going to be a free agent next year, ten

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Speaker 5: million dollars less thnans contract. Generally for those last two months,

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Speaker 5: you're gonna.

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Speaker 4: Go for it. Go for it.

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Speaker 5: You're both leading your divisions. I mean, guys want two

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Speaker 5: signs in a row. You're not going to get a

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Speaker 5: better opportunity than this, so do it.

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Speaker 4: But I want to.

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Speaker 5: Switch gears really quickly to the Cubs and a comment

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Speaker 5: that council said when asked about what they're looking for

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Speaker 5: at the.

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Speaker 4: Trade deadline, he just said, I want this team to

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Speaker 4: be better. So we know about the starting pitching woes.

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Speaker 5: But outside of going and grabbing a guy like Terry Schogle,

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Speaker 5: what else, in your opinion do you think the Cubs

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Speaker 5: direly need in order to make a run of this

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Speaker 5: thing and maybe go beyond and get past you know

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Speaker 5: the results that they got last.

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Speaker 9: Year, the be pitching, pitching and more pitching. That was

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Speaker 9: the biggest takeaway from last October. Even if the Cubs

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Speaker 9: had won that game five Milwaukee, they did not have

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Speaker 9: enough arms to beat the Dodgers and then win yet

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Speaker 9: another playoff round on top of that, Like you know,

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Speaker 9: you're looking at potentially for playoff rounds. That's the likeliest

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Speaker 9: path for the Cubs, assuming they make the playoffs, which

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Speaker 9: they have pretty strong odds right now. And so I

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Speaker 9: think ideally they'd like that starter who's under club control

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Speaker 9: for beyond just this season. The Angels have a couple

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Speaker 9: of guys like that. They really like Joe Ryan, although

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Speaker 9: it seems like the Twins are not all that inclined

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Speaker 9: to sell at the moment. I think if the Schooble

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Speaker 9: prices are what the Cubs deemed to be outlandish, then

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Speaker 9: you start looking at those rental starters, whether it's Freddie Peralta,

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Speaker 9: Kevin Gosman. If the Blue Jays do ultimately sell, and

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Speaker 9: I think there are ways to make the bullpen better

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Speaker 9: considering the Cubs don't really have a closer period. That's,

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Speaker 9: you know, kind of what Council's alluding to when he

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Speaker 9: talked about out getters, Like they've been very They've gotten

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Speaker 9: a lot of buy in. Council has a good track

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Speaker 9: record with managing pitchers. You know, they have pretty good

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Speaker 9: synergy between like the pitching group, the front office, the

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Speaker 9: manager's office. But at a certain point like that could

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Speaker 9: run out, and I think they would love to get

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Speaker 9: a guy who can give you length on the front

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Speaker 9: end and then just to get build in some more

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Speaker 9: certainty the back end of the game. You know, Daniel Plancia,

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Speaker 9: who is their opening day closer. You know, at this

641
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Speaker 9: point they're looking at mid August, assuming no setbacks for

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Speaker 9: him to come back.

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Speaker 1: I think they got.

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Speaker 9: Either twelve or thirteen pitchers on the injury list right now,

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Speaker 9: and you can't can't really count on those guys coming back.

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Speaker 9: So they just need more certainty. And that's what Counsel

647
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Speaker 9: was alluding to. Like, their everyday position playing group is

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Speaker 9: pretty solid. They have an MVP candidate and Pete, and

649
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Speaker 9: it's just all about giving him more arms to work

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Speaker 9: with over the next two plus months.

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Speaker 1: I wanted to talk I wanted to talk to you

652
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Speaker 1: a little bit about Pete. By the way, that Brewers

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Speaker 1: series ended perfectly for me. I'm just I don't know

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Speaker 1: why it made me smile when the Brewers won that series.

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Speaker 1: Just it was weird. Then I was so happy when

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Speaker 1: that ended. But that's just me. Not on anyone else,

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Speaker 1: just me, Patrick Pete, Pete Crow Armstrong at the beginning

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Speaker 1: of the year really struggled. He got into it the

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Speaker 1: White Sox fan and everyone's like, oh, look he's losing it.

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Speaker 1: And since then he if not the best player in baseball,

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Speaker 1: he is in the top two or three best players

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Speaker 1: in baseball. He's in the MVP conversation. His defense has

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Speaker 1: always been steady, but he has taken his offense to

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Speaker 1: a different level, especially power wise. What did he figure

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Speaker 1: out or what did he change?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, it's been an amazing transformation. Like this is like

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Speaker 9: the best case version of Pete that the Cubs hoped for,

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Speaker 9: but they didn't think it would happen this quickly by

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Speaker 9: any means. Like, and he's become more patient without sacrificing

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Speaker 9: his power. He's selective, disciplined on time against right handed

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Speaker 9: and left handed pitching. I mean that's been, you know,

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Speaker 9: big part of growth here. He's really taken to the

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Speaker 9: leadoff spot. And you know, you referred to an agent

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Speaker 9: like the Cubs may have the best player on the

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Speaker 9: field on both sides of the ball for every playoff

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Speaker 9: game they play this October. And I think that's something

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Speaker 9: you have to factor in at the trade deadline. If

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Speaker 9: they don't get a Schooble, you have to get more

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Speaker 9: just because you can't take this type of year for granted. Obviously,

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Speaker 9: if Shohy comes back, you know as a pitcher, you know,

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Speaker 9: if Aaron Judge gets healthy again. But right now, I mean,

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Speaker 9: he's leading the majors in war and I think you

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Speaker 9: have to honor that. I know, you know how Cubs

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Speaker 9: fans are edge. They're thinking that PCA will just kind

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Speaker 9: of like be this for the next ten to fifteen years.

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Speaker 9: But you guys know it doesn't work out that way.

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Speaker 9: Like you have to have, you know, surprises. You have

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Speaker 9: to have special seasons if you're going to go far

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Speaker 9: in the playoffs, and he gives them a huge chance

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Speaker 9: to make those game changing, series changing plays on offense

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Speaker 9: and defense.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's the best going right now. It's been amazing.

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Speaker 1: It's been incredible to watch, especially his plate discipline has

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Speaker 1: really improved. And I mean he went from cub fans

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Speaker 1: complaining about this contract and now they're like, man, we

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Speaker 1: might have got a bargain here.

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Speaker 4: So listen.

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Speaker 1: He had a great first half last year. He kind

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Speaker 1: of went down a little bit in the second half,

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Speaker 1: didn't get off to a great start. But now this

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Speaker 1: is what I think the Cubs envision. I know Craig

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Speaker 1: Council defended him for years said there's something special in

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Speaker 1: there if he stays with that and stays like this,

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Speaker 1: and can you stay disciplined. Plus, you know what I

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Speaker 1: love about Pca. He's got a little flair, He's got

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Speaker 1: a little fu attitude. He doesn't really care what people say.

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Speaker 1: I think that's great. I mean, not that I would know,

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Speaker 1: but I think that's kind of great that someone like

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Speaker 1: this exists in a city like Chicago, because you know,

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Speaker 1: the Chicago fans will hate people like that. You know,

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Speaker 1: they just despise people that have a little bit of

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Speaker 1: an attitude.

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Speaker 9: Oh yeah, if he was wearing a different uniform, my

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Speaker 9: Cups fans would not appreciate heats. But he's Look, he's

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Speaker 9: the guy that makes You've seen how much really Ville

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Speaker 9: has been built up and everything the Cubs have put

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Speaker 9: into kind of their satellite businesses around it, like Pete

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Speaker 9: is you know, the straw that serves as a drink,

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Speaker 9: whatever you want to call it. And I do think

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Speaker 9: think the offensive performance is more sustainable, Like I think

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Speaker 9: Jed Hoyer described as last year he just had this

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Speaker 9: like barrage of home run and stolen home runs and

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Speaker 9: stolen bases. This is different, like this is the shape

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Speaker 9: of this performance is fundamentally different. It's more promising. And

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Speaker 9: I think you're right on Council, just that his low

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Speaker 9: key manner sort of bounces out Pete and he has

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Speaker 9: that credibility from a long playing career in the majors

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Speaker 9: that he allowed Pete to make mistakes to be held accountable.

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Speaker 9: And you're you're seeing a lot of that growth right now.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, well Patrick, thank you very much. We appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: You can follow him. I don't even want I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: mess this up, so I apologize. Can you say his

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Speaker 1: name for me? Sadev Sharma, thank you, thank you.

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Speaker 9: And John Lester.

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Speaker 1: He's a regular contributor on door Side Territory.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, he's joined us twice this far. He was

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Speaker 9: out in Chicago for the big twenty sixteen reunion. But yeah,

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Speaker 9: he'll be on from time to time offering his thoughts.

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Speaker 9: He's still connected. He saw some connections in Chicago and

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Speaker 9: so as you guys know, he's just an awesome, awesome talker,

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Speaker 9: really sharp guy with like some amazing perspective and like,

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Speaker 9: you know, a sneaky good sense of humor. Very humble.

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Speaker 9: So yeah, we're really looking forward to having him on.

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Speaker 9: It's kind of an open door invitation to John Nice.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to call him and get him because

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Speaker 1: he hasn't even been on our show yet. So I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna have to yell at him, which is understan which

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Speaker 1: is fine, but listen. Follow North Side Territory on YouTube

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Speaker 1: wherever you get your podcast. I'll see you August first,

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Speaker 1: when the Yankees are in town. I want to sing out.

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Speaker 1: I want to sing the seventh inning stretch and throw

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Speaker 1: out the first bitch, So get it done.

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Speaker 9: We'll get to work on that. They won't listen to me,

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Speaker 9: but I'll make the suggestion perfect.

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Speaker 1: I'll call for Jake. Thanks,