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Speaker 1: Welcome to the best podcast available training competition. Here are

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Speaker 1: your hosts, Jason Gibbs, Andrew Gribble and Nick Shook, and

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Speaker 1: we welcome you into Barria. I'm Jason Gibbs. He's the

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Speaker 1: Z that stands for his girl, Nick Shook, Gribble, Gribble,

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Speaker 1: did you not have the hat on today? Overcast? Hood

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Speaker 1: on for the rain? It did rain for a little bit,

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Speaker 1: coming down trerenially out there. Yeah, and this is the barge,

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Speaker 1: so we got that going for us. Uh and the

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Speaker 1: Browns and Lions will play for that, you know, fourth

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Speaker 1: preseason game. Don't you dare say it's meaningless? Last I

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Speaker 1: didn't say it. I didn't say there's always a big

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Speaker 1: Will you properly title the game? Gibbs? It's the Great

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Speaker 1: Lakes Classic? Okay, it's going to be classic. Otherwise know

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Speaker 1: it's the Battle of the Barge. Thank you. That's what

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Speaker 1: I said. That it's I took this off of the

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Speaker 1: shelf by the way of one John Dorsey last night,

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Speaker 1: who promptly came running out of his office to try

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Speaker 1: to stop me. Really yeah, but so don't tell me

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Speaker 1: this thing doesn't mean anything. Let me ask you a

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Speaker 1: question means so much that there's two of these. There

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Speaker 1: are two. Yes, sorry, blow the cover. The Lions have

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Speaker 1: a copy. Let me ask you a question. Though you

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Speaker 1: take this out of his office, he comes running out

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Speaker 1: after you. How do you? How is it here? Then?

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Speaker 1: I imagine if the do want this? I want this.

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Speaker 1: I explained what I was doing. I said, I promise

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Speaker 1: I will bring this back, but I need this as

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Speaker 1: a prop for our broadcasts yesterday and today. So you

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Speaker 1: just went in there, No, not in his office. The

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Speaker 1: shelf is just outside his office. It's like a sitting area, which,

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Speaker 1: by the way, the shelf is above my head. So

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Speaker 1: like to pull this down now? It is not. It

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Speaker 1: is not. You should have told me because I pulled

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Speaker 1: it down first yesterday and then put it back up

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Speaker 1: there for photos. I would have just left it. I

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Speaker 1: would have brought it here myself. I grabbed Carmen. It was.

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Speaker 1: It was a sight to behold. I had imagine Dorsey

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Speaker 1: making fun of both of us. That's what we're doing this. So, uh,

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Speaker 1: we're wrapping up training camp. We're wrapping up the preseason today,

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Speaker 1: the final practice tomorrow, a little walk through Thursday, preseason

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Speaker 1: game number four, and then it all begins. For real.

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Speaker 1: So we wanted to come up with a few awards

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Speaker 1: that we wanted to hand out to everybody, and why

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Speaker 1: not a better place to do it than with this

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Speaker 1: panel right here. With that being said, let's get things

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Speaker 1: going a little preface. Though we were promised emails before

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Speaker 1: the show totally with these awards, received none the emails.

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Speaker 1: Part of that was me deciding last minute that I

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Speaker 1: wasn't going to do that to get the natural reaction.

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Speaker 1: Part of me was also running in forty different places

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Speaker 1: doing three other things us out totally account of no accountability,

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Speaker 1: just say, you know what, I'm in charge, and I

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Speaker 1: made the decision dependability, availability, accountability, reliability, reliability. But that's

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Speaker 1: more dependability. He went with key and then he well

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Speaker 1: he forgot about it. He forgot about availability. It's really

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Speaker 1: three I'm accountable. Yeah, OK, crickets alright, I said, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: not not. It wasn't a positive. It wasn't a positive.

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Speaker 1: I think, Gribbles like, let's go with that being five

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Speaker 1: o'clock deadline. Most Outstanding Rookie of Camp. Gribbs, Uh, my

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Speaker 1: vote for the Maurice Bassett Award was Greedy Williams. So

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Speaker 1: I'm sticking with Greedy Williams. He did not win the

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Speaker 1: Maurice Basst Award that went to Mack Wilson, but I

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Speaker 1: think the effort from basically start to finish to be

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Speaker 1: mostly a first team cornerback and then filling in now

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Speaker 1: is a second team corner It's commendable, especially on a

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Speaker 1: made elsewhere. He had an interception against Washington. I think

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Speaker 1: he's been really good, as good as advertise. I go

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Speaker 1: with Mack Wilson because of all the interceptions made, the

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Speaker 1: last week or so, but that's okay. I think he

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Speaker 1: stands to make an impact for years to come. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna go with mack Wilson as well, and I think

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Speaker 1: Reedy has been great. To your point is second round pick.

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Speaker 1: A lot of people thought of first round talent. Now

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Speaker 1: Mac some would argue probably a second round talent, their

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Speaker 1: He had a stretch in camp where in the five

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Speaker 1: times that he put on a Brown's uniform, he had

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Speaker 1: I don't know if we'll ever seen anything like that

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Speaker 1: Mack Wilson fluid athlete. They say, we gotta some research though.

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Speaker 1: When will be the last time the Browns opened a

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Speaker 1: season with none of their draft picks in the starting lineup?

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Speaker 1: Or will they? I don't know, it doesn't look like that.

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Speaker 1: It might be a kicker. Oh yeah, I'm talking about

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Speaker 1: the eleven offensive time a long time ago, probably before

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Speaker 1: the team left. Yeah yeah, probably definitely. Uh. My vote

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Speaker 1: goes to Takie Talkie simply for the energy and the

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Speaker 1: buzz he created his first few days that really got

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Speaker 1: this team on edge right from the get go. Instigator.

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Speaker 1: I love Takie Taki, but you're ignoring one of the

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Speaker 1: main abilities. Availability hasn't been around for a couple and

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Speaker 1: he came in, he became an instigator, brought the energy

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Speaker 1: level up. You're instigating right now my vote. Yeah, I'm

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Speaker 1: still thinking about Gribbs point and my reaction. Now, perhaps

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Speaker 1: it's two thou the Bowbell draft. Oh yeah, that might

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Speaker 1: have been because we didn't have anything the first year.

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Speaker 1: All right. The Newcomer Award, this is not for the rookie.

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Speaker 1: This is for the newcomer on the football team. Shook,

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Speaker 1: what do you got buddy? This? You know, this is

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Speaker 1: a tough one. I think you right now you might

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Speaker 1: give it to Eric Kush. I mean, this is a

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Speaker 1: not a lot of people knew, right, I'm just I'm

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Speaker 1: just kidding. The Newcomer Award is definitely Sheldon Richardson. He's

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Speaker 1: He's made a significant impact from day one, continues to

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Speaker 1: I think Sheldon is a major reason why a girl,

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Speaker 1: he certainly had some memorable moments, making a dB fall

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Speaker 1: One thing that I observed with I thought was pretty

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Speaker 1: You know, sometimes you think of veteran a pro bowler

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Speaker 1: But I thought that just see that kind of engagement,

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Speaker 1: And he was very good last year before he got hurt. Uh,

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Speaker 1: But he's really answered the bell in this camp. That's

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Speaker 1: Terrence Mitchell, you know. He he really got challenged early

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Speaker 1: has been consistently effective at the opposite corner position opposite

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Speaker 1: Denzel Award for this entire camp. No matter who he's

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Speaker 1: from him, and he's he's talked plenty of trash, especially

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Speaker 1: his play on the field and every opportunity presented to him.

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Speaker 1: And I'm really confident in him going into this season.

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Speaker 1: He's a stot. I actual thought it was pretty good

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Speaker 1: last year, but you're right, he even seems better in

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Speaker 1: the competition from Greedy. Williams has brought the best song,

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Speaker 1: and so far it certainly looks true. I got one now,

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Speaker 1: Jermaine Whitehead. He was on this roster late last year

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Speaker 1: from where he was then and you weren't even thinking

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Speaker 1: your starting lineup too. Now he's that big nickel in

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Speaker 1: the Steve Wilkes defense, which is going to feature that position.

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Speaker 1: He's made plays, he's looked good miss a little bit

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