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Speaker 2: Give this you're listening to Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 3: I have at times been lightly accused by Buck Rising

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Speaker 3: being anti Nicks. I've been lightly accused at times of

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Speaker 3: maybe finding too much negative around positive for the Knicks.

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Speaker 4: So I say that knowing full well that this doesn't

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Speaker 4: sound very pro.

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Speaker 3: But I'm just wondering, after all the weight, after all

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Speaker 3: the time, after sitting around for weeks wondering.

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Speaker 4: Who the head coach would be, we really feeling.

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Speaker 3: A static over Mike Brown's fucking fits hanging out with

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Speaker 3: the on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 4: It's just coming straight out in New York.

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Speaker 3: As we start on a third of July edition, He's

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Speaker 3: Buck Rising, I'm Jason Fitz. He's smiling at me as

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Speaker 3: I even started this because all al acquies, you know,

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Speaker 3: the nixt law, they win in the second round and

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Speaker 3: they change the name of streets and they parade, and

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Speaker 3: I and Bucket and I were hanging out at the

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Speaker 3: time and we were on radio, and I said, I

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Speaker 3: just don't get it.

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Speaker 4: They don't raise banners for second round wins.

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Speaker 3: And you know, it felt looking back at it felt

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Speaker 3: like maybe I was a little harsh for the Knicks

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Speaker 3: against the Knicks. So buck I've been, you know, sitting

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Speaker 3: here trying to figure out am I polishing a pig

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Speaker 3: or am I doing the opposite? Here, Like after weeks

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Speaker 3: of wondering who the next head coach would be, Mike

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Speaker 3: Brown is the next sid coach. And that's fine, that's fine,

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Speaker 3: But it's just fine, right Like, you're not doing cartwheels

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Speaker 3: in the street. If you're a Knicks fan today, are you?

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Speaker 5: Look at you? I imagine that the New York radio audience.

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Speaker 6: Is waking up to enjoy potentially a holiday for some,

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Speaker 6: potentially a drive to work for others, and they're thinking, Okay,

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Speaker 6: I'm going to get to hear about my new head

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Speaker 6: coach on Fox Sports Radio, and then they're greeted with

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Speaker 6: that smug. I can hear even if I wasn't looking

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Speaker 6: at you on FaceTime, you in Connecticut and me and

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Speaker 6: Nashville today, I could hear the smugness in your tone.

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Speaker 6: I could hear the smile on your face knowing that

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Speaker 6: you got to wake up and bother the Knicks fans.

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Speaker 6: Here's the thing, though Mike Brown may be too good

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Speaker 6: for the Knicks, based on the way that the Knicks

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Speaker 6: have gone about this thing. Uh, it's it has to

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Speaker 6: be irritating. And we've talked about this fitci. I'm a

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Speaker 6: Pacers fan, all right, So there's no love loss between

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Speaker 6: me and the New York market and my sports fandom.

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Speaker 5: I am not in a position to throw rocks from

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Speaker 6: Because I would argue that the Indiana Pacers have one

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Speaker 6: of the worst ownership groups in the league, and that's

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Speaker 6: just because they're cheap, not just because they're incompetent. But

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Speaker 6: to fire Tom Thibodeau the way that they did, and

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Speaker 6: I I couldn't make it make sense. I could make

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Speaker 6: it make sense because I understand who that coach is.

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Speaker 6: I have seen situations in covering professional sports teams for

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Speaker 5: You doing the same.

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Speaker 6: We have both seen situations where you think a coach

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Speaker 6: has a ceiling and though they may have, you know,

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Speaker 6: was five years in New York, you might understand, Okay,

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Speaker 6: there's more that this thing has to give, but you

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Speaker 6: have to have a plan. You have to have a

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Speaker 6: you are dealing with something as fragile as the New

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Speaker 6: to do New York's sports talk radio today because all

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Speaker 5: Not with Mike Brown. Mike Brown, to your point.

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Speaker 6: Is fine, but with their organization for wasting this much

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Speaker 3: It for me, the big kick in the no no

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Speaker 3: want is hope when your team gets eliminated and it

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Speaker 3: And it's hard for me to find just cratuitous, overflowing

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Speaker 4: Not because he's not good.

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Speaker 3: I mean, obviously he's been a Coach of the Year twice, right,

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Speaker 3: But in the NBA that feels like that's a common thing.

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Speaker 4: I don't know why.

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Speaker 3: It feels like you can be Coach of the Year

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Speaker 3: the next month and it doesn't That's.

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Speaker 5: Kind of the thing in the NFL too.

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Speaker 6: I don't know, if you've looked at the latest Coach

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Speaker 5: Shot out Brian day Boll, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: That you aren't wrong, and it's but there's this moment

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Speaker 3: for me where you got to have a plan and

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Speaker 4: You cannot react emotionally.

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Speaker 3: And the hardest part of all of this is that

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Speaker 3: you compartmentalize all of that? And I don't have the

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Speaker 3: this is the problem with an emotional rejerk, knee jerk reaction,

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Speaker 3: because the minute you make that if you're firing your

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Speaker 3: tell me that that was this Like they've been denied

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Speaker 3: understand how they didn't organizationally know that. That's the fatal

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Speaker 3: flaw on the hire to me is that you had

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Speaker 4: Your own channels that you can work, your own phones

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Speaker 3: A better idea the minute you fired Tims on exactly

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Speaker 6: Starts, and it's it's compounded because of what you just said.

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Speaker 6: Who they hired to be this franchise as president. Are

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Speaker 6: you're familiar with Leon Rose?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: Leon Rose, for people who don't know, is a former

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Speaker 5: He worked for a.

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Speaker 6: Behemoth called CIA Creative Artist Agency.

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Speaker 5: If you don't know what CIA is in.

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Speaker 6: The general public, they basically run your sports and entertainment world.

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Speaker 6: If you see Peyton Manning, Chick fil A, and Coca

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Speaker 6: suppose that would be conflicting brands, even if even so,

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Speaker 5: By CIA, and CIA put.

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Speaker 6: Together your Super Bowl commercials, right, This is what Leon Rose.

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Speaker 6: Leon Rose was hired as somebody who should have the

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Speaker 6: inside track on these things, right, who should be able

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Speaker 6: advantage of industry connections to make sure, all right, if

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Speaker 6: feel like didn't have quite enough, even though he got

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Speaker 6: in twenty five damn years.

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Speaker 5: I was six years old the.

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Speaker 6: Last time the New York Knicks played in an Eastern

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Speaker 6: Conference finals. Fits okay, Not in my cognizance sports lifetime

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Speaker 6: have the Knicks mattered as much as they did in

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Speaker 6: if you have a plan, you hire Leon Rose, who's

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Speaker 6: a plan. And the fact that they still couldn't get

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Speaker 6: to reiterate, it's not to me about Mike Brown.

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Speaker 5: Mike Brown is a fine.

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Speaker 6: Basketball coach, he's a completely competent professional NBA basketball coach.

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Speaker 5: Nobody would dispute this.

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Speaker 6: And by the way, he's somebody who's familiar with pressure,

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Speaker 6: though this is a different kind of pressure that he

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Speaker 6: By the way, not yet official, so there's still time

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Speaker 5: Know about all this.

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Speaker 6: This feels different because immediately fits what happens. He is

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Speaker 5: He gets no grace period.

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Speaker 6: He is walking in to an absolute buzzsaw.

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Speaker 4: He's walking into a situation that the last guy got

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Speaker 4: fired for not winning a championship. I mean, there's just.

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Speaker 3: No the last guy got fired for not making it

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Speaker 3: immediately find out is that, Okay, you're coming in for

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Speaker 3: the expectators better be better than Tibbs. Right, you got

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Speaker 3: And if you're the Knicks, you were sitting right on

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Speaker 3: something that is working for Whenever a new coach comes in,

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Speaker 3: You've worked through multiple coaching changes in the NFL level,

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Speaker 3: working around the Titans is what's the first thing.

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Speaker 4: A new coach does when they come in in any sport.

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Speaker 3: They bring in their guys, right, Like they start to

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Speaker 4: One of us list. In Nashville, the bars are at

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Speaker 6: But it's something that you can look at be like,

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Speaker 6: If you're not paying attention to the NBA free agency

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Speaker 5: At least, let me.

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Speaker 6: Have an off season of hope nobody loses the off season.

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Speaker 5: Of that nature.

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Speaker 5: Knicks fans have to be in an unrelenting hell.

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Speaker 4: We are just getting rolling.

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Speaker 3: We'll take the unrelenting hell coast to coast because for

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Speaker 3: We'll get into it. It's a big day on Entreprenmo

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Speaker 4: That's what we're doing. We're throwing fireworks out everywhere. It's

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Speaker 3: So Buckett, I will be here today and tomorrow for

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Speaker 4: Moves, questionable moves.

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Speaker 3: We'll figure out what they're doing in La next these

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Speaker 4: It's a third of.

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Speaker 3: July edition of Two Pros and a Cup Joe, and

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Speaker 3: it's a Bucking Fits takeover all At the same time,

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Speaker 3: he's Buck Rising. I'm Jason Fitz hanging out with you

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Speaker 3: as we will be all day today, all day tomorrow,

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Speaker 4: It's a good time, Buck Rising.

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Speaker 3: We're just popping to the music here before we get

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Speaker 4: We got a lot we're going to get into this morning.

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Speaker 4: Got some steelers.

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Speaker 3: Thoughts got plenty, that's on the plate. But are you

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Speaker 3: Are you a pro fireworks guy or a profile Oh.

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Speaker 6: You really want to start this fight in the second segment.

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Speaker 4: I just wondered if you were like a fireworks guy.

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Speaker 5: No, but see see what he did to me? Ian Mary.

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Speaker 6: You're back in the studio in Los Angeles. You're running

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Speaker 5: In time, you're delirious.

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Speaker 4: True to go against me?

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Speaker 6: Yeah? No, no, because you you have positioned yourself right

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Speaker 6: Because what did you do? You said, we're here to

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Speaker 5: And then you ask me how do I feel.

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Speaker 6: About fireworks, knowing damn well that I don't want anything

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Speaker 6: You've already put me in a position where I'm going

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Speaker 6: like you look like Captain America today, I won't have it.

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Speaker 5: It's because I am married.

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Speaker 3: It's because I am I mean, the fireworksorks there is.

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Speaker 5: What okay, why do you love them? Why?

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Speaker 4: Bro? They're cool? They blow up and then they like

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Speaker 5: Bro.

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Speaker 6: It takes me two hours to get in a situation

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Speaker 6: Isn't this the two hundred and fifty years this year?

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Speaker 6: Isn't that you don't know? Look at you, miss Captain America.

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Speaker 6: You don't know America's birth. They eat it fits. It

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Speaker 4: Your anger is misdirected right now.

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Speaker 6: No, no, no, it's properly directed because the fireworks are

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Speaker 4: You just hate beautiful stuff. Yes, I mean that is

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Speaker 6: It's taking my therapist thirty one years to try and

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Speaker 3: If you know, buck Buck was so busy thinking that

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Speaker 4: I'll be honest, I think fireworks kind of overrated.

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Speaker 3: Like I'll be honest, Like everything you just said, it's

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Speaker 4: Where everybody's it's just hot and humid and like in fact,

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Speaker 3: It sounds like you just hate crowds of sweaty people

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Speaker 4: I don't hate fireworks.

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Speaker 3: up here there's the Hartford Yardgoat, so the minor league

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Speaker 3: baseball team, great beautiful stadium, one of the best in

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Speaker 3: the country, wins a bunch of awards.

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Speaker 4: They do firework nights all the time.

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Speaker 3: Like, if they're doing firework nights, all I'm thinking is, yeah, man,

447
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Speaker 3: if I right away, I can beat the traffic, Like

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Speaker 3: I'm not.

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Speaker 4: I'm not. I'm not one to sit there and stick

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Speaker 4: around for the power.

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Speaker 3: And then and now fireworks have gotten kind of weird,

452
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Speaker 3: Like I saw display I think it was last year

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Speaker 3: they started doing this whole Star Wars thing in the

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Speaker 3: middle of the fourth of July fireworks, and I'm like, what,

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Speaker 3: what why Why do I have Star Wars fireworks up.

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Speaker 6: Here with like the drones because we do the drone

457
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Speaker 6: the drones in the middle of the fireworks too, which by.

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Speaker 5: The way, is kind of cool. Listen.

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Speaker 6: I think I think Ian and Mary have identified the

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Speaker 6: root clause of our issue, which is we are we

461
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Speaker 6: are getting old fits and we don't like crowds. No.

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Speaker 3: I will say though, that the the drone light shows

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Speaker 3: are pretty cool though, and I would take those over

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Speaker 3: five over fireworks. Let me ask you this, buck, if

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Speaker 3: I had on Lower Broad, all right, I had a

466
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Speaker 3: a driver that was going to take you down to

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Speaker 3: the Lower Broad for.

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Speaker 5: A rooftop area, I have one of them.

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Speaker 3: You have a sectioned off commanda, right, so I forgot

470
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Speaker 3: you got your business card, you got a sectioned off cammanda.

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Speaker 3: You and tend of your friends. You don't have to

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Speaker 3: worry about anybody else's buck crack sweat Like. You get

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Speaker 3: all of the space that you possibly want on the rooftop.

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Speaker 3: You're gonna have to hang out for a couple hours afterwards,

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Speaker 3: because you know the crowd's got to disperse.

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Speaker 4: You've got sort of a private watching area on a rooftop.

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Speaker 4: Would you would you go, oh.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, no, as long as I can have exclusivity, then yeah,

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Speaker 6: I just.

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Speaker 4: I don't it's not comped. No, it's not comped. It's reasonable.

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Speaker 5: No, that's fine.

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Speaker 6: I'm at a point in my life where I will

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Speaker 6: pay to not be inconvenienced. Like, I don't care. Money

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Speaker 6: is not an object. Speak give me. Give me a

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Speaker 6: private space, or at least a space that's sectioned off

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Speaker 6: so I can take these things. And I have no

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Speaker 6: issue being unrelatable. This has not been a problem for

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Speaker 6: me ever in my life. Nor elitist, no, nor a snob,

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Speaker 6: no matter what you lobb at me today, I'm good

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Speaker 6: with it because I do not want to be inconvenienced

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Speaker 6: by you.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, this is He's buck Rising. By the way, I'm

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Speaker 4: Jason Vitz.

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Speaker 5: Good morning.

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Speaker 4: This is I threw us all under the bush.

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Speaker 3: We got We'll talk plenty of hot talk getting contests

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Speaker 3: tomorrow too, because I have more experience.

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Speaker 4: See, you know that's nasty. I need to hate that. Okay.

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Speaker 3: I was the sideline reporter on it for three years

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Speaker 3: for ESPN. I'm telling you, whatever you think it is,

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Speaker 3: it's worse. That's just a tease for tomorrow.

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Speaker 5: Mary.

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Speaker 6: You don't understand the noises he was making to describe

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Speaker 6: it on the Local show. He came on the Local

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Speaker 6: Show yesterday and I'm pretty sure it's it's not safe

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Speaker 6: for work. I think we had to scrub the entire thing.

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Speaker 4: So well it is. I think you guys should hate that.

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Speaker 4: It's a fireworks.

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Speaker 5: That's the real thing.

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Speaker 4: Tomorrow, tomorrow, tomorrow, tomorrow. We'll do that tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: Before we get to the Lakers, Let's first get to

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Speaker 3: the little bit of La love.

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Speaker 4: Let's let's cue it up here. It's time for the

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Speaker 4: Day one two pitch, strike three.

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Speaker 8: Card is he cut him with a slider strike out

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Speaker 8: number three thousand for Clayton Kershaw history at Dodgers Stadium.

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Speaker 4: Clayton Kershaw making history.

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Speaker 3: Buck, I'll also troll the world and tell you that

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Speaker 3: I'm a lifelong diehard Dodgers.

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Speaker 4: Fan, and a lot of people don't know that.

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Speaker 3: And by lifelong diehard, I mean since they won the

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Speaker 3: World Series last year. I never grew up with a

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Speaker 3: favorite baseball team, and I decided that last year I

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Speaker 3: really got into it, like the playoffs, first time in

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Speaker 3: my entire life.

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Speaker 4: I am forty eight years old.

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Speaker 3: The first time in my entire life that I ever

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Speaker 3: really got sucked into.

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Speaker 4: Major League Baseball was the playoffs last year.

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Speaker 3: Because a good friend of mine GEO, lifelong diehard Dodgers fan,

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Speaker 3: and there's a little tiny dive bar in Connecticut.

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Speaker 4: Where he liked to watch all the games. So I

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Speaker 4: would like we would just go to this dive.

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Speaker 3: Bar and sit there and just watching his sheer, just

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Speaker 3: absolute joy. I decided, if I'm going to pick a

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Speaker 3: baseball team, at least until you know, Vegas gets one,

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Speaker 3: if I'm going to pick a baseball team, I might

545
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Speaker 3: as well pick the best baseball team possible. So as

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Speaker 3: a lifelong diehard Dodgers fan of like six months, I

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Speaker 3: appreciated Clinton Kershaw's a big moment last night.

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Speaker 4: So it's a big moment for me, he's a fan.

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Speaker 6: If you were a lifelong Dodgers fan, then you would

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Speaker 6: recognize the opportunity to pay tribute to AM five seventy

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Speaker 6: Dodgers Radio. As Ian just gently reminded us, bad job

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Speaker 6: out of you fits courtesy of the calling.

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Speaker 3: Look who's taking out the producers and the first and everybody.

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Speaker 5: You feel about that crew? I don't feel about that.

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Speaker 5: Now they're on my side.

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Speaker 4: Oh, this is what we're gonna do. I'll take it.

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Speaker 4: I'll take the bullet. I should have whispered it in

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Speaker 4: his ear while he the play was going on.

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Speaker 3: Tell me, Ian, did you at any point actually tell

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Speaker 3: me where the call had come from?

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Speaker 5: Noah, Noah, I didn't.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a he's off the hook. There's no Iron team,

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Speaker 4: but there's an Emmy dammit. All right, I'm just letting

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Speaker 4: you know.

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Speaker 3: The worst I am the wor like we are not

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Speaker 3: off to a good start to being lovable and likable

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Speaker 3: as we usually are when we hang out. While while

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Speaker 3: we're in the spirit of that, By the way, Lakers

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Speaker 3: DeAndre Ayton, I mean, so it's funny to me, Buck

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Speaker 3: because for anyone that didn't see this, Lakers signed DeAndre

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Speaker 3: eight into a two year deal, and this is after

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Speaker 3: Lebron opted in on his contract. It should be noted

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Speaker 3: opting in on his contract doesn't mean that he's.

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Speaker 4: Necessarily going to stay a Laker.

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Speaker 3: It just means that he's going to get his fifty

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Speaker 3: something million dollars over the course of this year, no

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Speaker 3: matter what, because that's the way contracts work. So in

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Speaker 3: the NBA, everything is fully guaranteed.

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Speaker 4: So once he.

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Speaker 3: Opted in, what he really did was assured himself of

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Speaker 3: the money that he was going to get. And I

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Speaker 3: just I struggle with this one because what we keep

583
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Speaker 3: hearing from different Sometimes we hear Lebron's happy, and sometimes

584
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Speaker 3: we hear Lebron's not happy, and sometimes we hear Lebron

585
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Speaker 3: just wants to win a championship. Well, like, I don't know,

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Speaker 3: can you really have your cake and eat it too,

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Speaker 3: Because if you genuinely, if the only thing in the

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Speaker 3: world that Lebron cared about was getting a champion ship

589
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Speaker 3: this year, I would argue he didn't have to opt in.

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Speaker 4: He could have put himself out on the street and

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Speaker 4: he could have taken whatever.

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Speaker 3: I mean, not that anybody wants to play for less

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Speaker 3: than their worse, But you don't get to tell.

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Speaker 4: Me that you did. The most important thing is I

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Speaker 4: want to be a champion.

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Speaker 3: Now, the most important thing was you want to be

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Speaker 3: a champion and get paid, right like, Because frankly, he

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Speaker 3: could take the mid level exception anywhere he wanted and

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Speaker 3: go play somewhere if he really just he could go

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Speaker 3: play for pennies on the dollar and just try and

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Speaker 3: win a chip. But that's not what happens. So now

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Speaker 3: you have a very highly paid Lebron around the Lakers.

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Speaker 3: Seemed that he may or may not see the light

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Speaker 3: on with DeAndre Ayton and Luka Doncics together, like, it

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Speaker 3: feels like the Lakers are trapped in this I don't

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Speaker 3: know what we are spot where they're trying to figure

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Speaker 3: out how to build for the future while also dealing

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Speaker 3: with the drama that comes with doing that because Lebron

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Speaker 3: wants to win.

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Speaker 5: Now, that's exactly what's happened here.

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Speaker 6: But the confusing part of this and there's there's moves

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Speaker 6: that will make you scratch your head each year and

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Speaker 6: in any any pro sports free agency process. Right but

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Speaker 6: DeAndre Ayton he'd been on the Bucks for what now

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Speaker 6: two years, since he got traded from the Suns in

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Speaker 6: that Damian Lillard deal. He's only played ninety five games

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Speaker 6: in two years. He's not been available whatsoever, And there

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Speaker 6: have always been questions around, all right, how much does

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Speaker 6: he actually love this and how much is he willing

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Speaker 6: to go above and beyond? And I don't think I'm

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Speaker 6: speaking out a turn there where where a lot of

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Speaker 6: times I think people can assume too much. That's been

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Speaker 6: a part of DeAndre eighton storyline, I think since he

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Speaker 6: came out Arizona. But the difficulty in balancing this is

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Speaker 6: to your point about Lebron. Once an athlete wins a championship,

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Speaker 6: then their primary focus. And I don't think this is

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Speaker 6: to a man or to a woman, but the vast

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Speaker 6: majority of the time, once you win that ring, now

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Speaker 6: you're concerned about your money. Now Lebron is operating in

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Speaker 6: a different sphere than your average NBA player or NFL

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Speaker 6: player who might win their first championship and then is like,

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Speaker 6: all right, I've got my ring, now let me go

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Speaker 6: get my contract. Lebron is going to have to be

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Speaker 6: able to balance both here, and the Lakers are going

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Speaker 6: to have to be able to.

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Speaker 5: Balance both here.

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Speaker 6: But the roster building strategy does not equate to a

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Speaker 6: championship caliber roster around Lebron James. And I don't know

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Speaker 6: that you should be Should you be building this is

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Speaker 6: the more interesting question, and not that your initial question

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Speaker 6: wasn't interesting Fitzing, Oh my god, can should you be

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Speaker 6: building around Lebron James in twenty twenty five or twenty

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Speaker 6: twenty five into twenty twenty six, Like, is there still

644
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Speaker 6: a world where it makes sense with Luka Doncic on

645
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Speaker 6: the roster where you should be still acquiescing your personnel

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Speaker 6: decisions around Lebron James beyond the fact that Lebron clearly

647
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Speaker 6: has to say in what goes down there and should

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Speaker 6: be respected, his opinions should be valued and continues to

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Speaker 6: play at a high level into age forty plus. I

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Speaker 6: don't know that you should be deaf deferential though, as

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Speaker 6: far as your roster construction, And I don't know what

652
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Speaker 6: even even if you were trying to build around Luca

653
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Speaker 6: like that, your big ticket acquisition right now is DeAndre eight,

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Speaker 6: and that doesn't make any damn sense to me at all.

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Speaker 3: I think the hard part is that you can't sit

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Speaker 3: in the middle of all of it and try and

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Speaker 3: figure it out. To your point, should you be building

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Speaker 3: a brown Lebron Now, No, and that this has got

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Speaker 3: to be difficult for everybody. If we're being real for

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Speaker 3: a second, it's got to be difficult for the Lakers

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Speaker 3: to look at one of, if not the depending on

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Speaker 3: where you fall on this argument, greatest NBA player of

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Speaker 3: all time. Fine, So I like to put everything in

664
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Speaker 3: shelves instead of rankings. So like the top shelf of

665
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Speaker 3: NBA players of all time, you walk into a bar

666
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Speaker 3: and you say, oh my god, I want top shelf vodka. Okay,

667
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 3: whatever the top shelf is of NBA players of all time.

668
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Speaker 3: Lebron is on that top shelf of NBA players of

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Speaker 3: all time. So now you have one of the greatest

670
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Speaker 3: of all time sitting on your roster. But you also

671
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Speaker 3: know that that's not sustainable. And you also know that

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Speaker 3: you have already acquired the person that is going to

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Speaker 3: be the He's star for the next generation.

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Speaker 4: And guess what Lebron knows that too.

675
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Speaker 3: Like we talk a lot about Lebron in the way

676
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Speaker 3: he's seen and blah blah blah blah blah, but the

677
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 3: overall basketball and business acumen of Lebron James is fairly unquestionable, right, Like,

678
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Speaker 3: he looks around that locker room and realizes that he

679
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:20,560
Speaker 3: is no longer the building block. Right he has to

680
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:23,560
Speaker 3: look around that locker room and realize that they are

681
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Speaker 3: not sitting down every single day saying, well, oh my god,

682
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Speaker 3: if Lebron's not happy, we're screwed.

683
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Speaker 4: Like that's not that's not real.

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Speaker 6: He has Yeah, I smart, he's a smart guy.

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Speaker 4: He's yeah.

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Speaker 1: No.

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Speaker 6: I mean the smartest people in the world that you

688
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Speaker 6: know can also lack self awareness. Like, I just you

689
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Speaker 6: are assuming something about a professional athlete, especially one who's

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Speaker 6: been at the height of his professional heights for twenty

691
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Speaker 6: years at this point in time. I just don't think

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Speaker 6: that's a safe assumption.

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Speaker 4: Well and if that, my god, that makes it even

694
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Speaker 4: trickier for me.

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Speaker 3: I mean, if he's walking around said he thinks he's

696
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Speaker 3: still like he's still the point and focus of the

697
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Speaker 3: franchise for the next, you know, a couple of.

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Speaker 4: Years, then he's delusional. And I don't know what you

699
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Speaker 4: do with that.

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Speaker 3: If you're the Lakers, you really can't care and like

701
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:16,080
Speaker 3: you want to be you want to be as humane

702
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 3: as possible in this process, So you want to be

703
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Speaker 3: as deferential, to use the words you used earlier as

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Speaker 3: possible in this process to Lebron out of respect for

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Speaker 3: how much he means to the game.

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Speaker 4: And blah blah blah blah, all these things. But also

707
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Speaker 4: at the end.

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Speaker 3: Of the day, like at some level, we're all numbers

709
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Speaker 3: on a spreadsheet, no matter where we work. Like, if

710
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Speaker 3: you're the Lakers and you're looking at the spreadsheet right now,

711
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 3: Luca is a much more important piece of the spreadsheet.

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Speaker 4: Than Lebron is, and you have to honor that if

713
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Speaker 4: you're the Lakers.

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Speaker 3: Now is DeAndre Ayton is suddenly gonna make the Lakers

715
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Speaker 3: better than Oklahoma City?

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Speaker 4: Like that's the part of this. Like we've talked about this.

717
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Speaker 3: Before, but I think what gets twisted here is everybody

718
00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:52,800
Speaker 3: wants to find the one name and be like, oh man,

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Speaker 3: Katie's going here. It's gonna mean something, you know we're

720
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Speaker 3: gonna get We're gonna find this superstar and put him

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Speaker 3: on this team. Like, Okay, if you want to be

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Speaker 3: the best team in the West, you got to be

723
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Speaker 3: better than Okay see, and you got to be ten deep.

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Speaker 4: I mean, DeAndre Ayton ain't doing that.

725
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Speaker 3: Like Lebron DeAndre and Luka doncis ain't doing Like sure,

726
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Speaker 3: you're putting yourself in a situation where the OKAC gets

727
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Speaker 3: riddled by injuries like Cleveland did, or take some unprecedented

728
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:18,560
Speaker 3: step back, then maybe you've got a shot.

729
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Speaker 4: But like all of these moves just.

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Speaker 3: Continue to remind me that the way that Oklahoma City

731
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Speaker 3: did it was right and better for the next several years,

732
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Speaker 3: like they they are sitting on the cusp of something

733
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Speaker 3: that everybody else is envy hisself and there isn't one

734
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Speaker 3: transaction this summer that's going to change that.

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Speaker 6: In the West, it could have been I think for

736
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Speaker 6: the Lakers it could have been Miles Turner. Now I

737
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Speaker 6: think the Bucks surprised a lot of people by going

738
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Speaker 6: out and picking him up after the Indiana Pacers contend

739
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Speaker 6: to let him walk, which, you know, Frank.

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Speaker 3: Kicking ehaws to you though, as a Piecers fan, like

741
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Speaker 3: just what a good old like, you know, the horse

742
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Speaker 3: turned around and just back ended right into your special spot.

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Speaker 6: Just yeah, see, that's what they are, like the Pacer Honestly,

744
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 6: they that ownership group is terrible. It might, honest to God,

745
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Speaker 6: be the worst in the NBA because they don't, they

746
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Speaker 6: don't get into the luxury tax, they don't maximize their

747
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:16,640
Speaker 6: their their potential. And like this year, it seems that

748
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:19,480
Speaker 6: they've been given an out more than any other year.

749
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Speaker 5: Because Tyrese Haliburton has hurt.

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Speaker 6: So not the we don't wen't we don't need to

751
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Speaker 6: sidetrack this into a PACER's conversation. But like I was

752
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Speaker 6: not surprised at all. And Miles Turner is not my

753
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 6: favorite player by any stretch of the imagination. He's been

754
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Speaker 6: on that roster for basically a decade, and I have

755
00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:35,640
Speaker 6: mixed feelings about it, but there's no question that he

756
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:39,480
Speaker 6: played himself into a situation where he was a valuable

757
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Speaker 6: piece of a of a championship contending team. Now how

758
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Speaker 6: how even how close the Pacers actually are to okay

759
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Speaker 6: see when okay see is right? Because think about this, FITZI,

760
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:49,720
Speaker 6: they just got a.

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Speaker 5: Taste of this.

762
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Speaker 6: They they're gonna keep that roster together. They're going to

763
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Speaker 6: find ways to continue to build on that. Okay s

764
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Speaker 6: He's not going anywhere. They're they're what the third youngest

765
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Speaker 6: team in basketball or something ridiculous. They are here to stay,

766
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:05,160
Speaker 6: and they were just now getting their feet wet as

767
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:07,280
Speaker 6: far as, oh, we're in a big spot here, We're

768
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Speaker 6: in a championship series.

769
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Speaker 5: We need to be able to handle ourselves.

770
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Speaker 6: And I think you even saw that in Game seven

771
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Speaker 6: after Halliburton went down, because it took them a while

772
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Speaker 6: to kind of step on the next of a team

773
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Speaker 6: that was, respectfully to my pacers inferior, clearly and obviously

774
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Speaker 6: inferior in that moment. But like for the Lakers, Lakers

775
00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:25,080
Speaker 6: fans have to be looking around and be like, we

776
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 6: could have done so much more after they benched Jackson

777
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Speaker 6: Hayes in that series against Minnesota, who had been playing

778
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:36,960
Speaker 6: center for them for a period of time, and looking

779
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Speaker 6: around and seeing like DeAndre Ayton out there.

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Speaker 5: I guess it's almost.

781
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Speaker 6: Like the same version of a different version of the

782
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Speaker 6: same conversation we were having in the first segment of

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Speaker 6: the hour, which is Mike.

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Speaker 5: Brown and the Knicks.

785
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Speaker 6: Right, You're looking around and be like, yeah, Mike Brown

786
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 6: is a fine coach, but what could we have gotten

787
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:52,879
Speaker 6: had we had an actual plan here?

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Speaker 5: And I feel similarly about this Buck.

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Speaker 4: You have said something that raises a philosophical question. We'll

790
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 4: get to it next. These Buck risings fits. My question

791
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:02,359
Speaker 4: is why do.

792
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:07,320
Speaker 3: So many owners simply stink at their job across all sports?

793
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 3: We'll figure it out. Next Two Pros and Cup of Joe.

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Speaker 3: He's Buck Rising. I'm Jason Fitz hanging out with you

795
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:13,360
Speaker 3: on the third of July on Fox Sports Radio.

796
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:19,360
Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and

797
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:22,440
Speaker 2: a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington, and

798
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:26,839
Speaker 2: Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern, three am Pacific.

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Speaker 3: Not that you asked about my frozen grape consumption, but

800
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Speaker 3: chat nor.

801
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:34,320
Speaker 5: Your frozen watermelon consumption. But we got that anywhere.

802
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:35,520
Speaker 4: Frozen watermelon is a delight.

803
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Speaker 3: Chat Ept has changed my life in the last like

804
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 3: two weeks. Okay, so I'll admit that I am over obsessed.

805
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:43,680
Speaker 3: My friends are tired of hearing about it at this point,

806
00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:47,120
Speaker 3: Like I ask everything of chat ept at this point,

807
00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:49,440
Speaker 3: like it is the way I live every I had

808
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:53,160
Speaker 3: a very successful smart friend of mine say to me

809
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:55,480
Speaker 3: last month, Hey, if you're not trying to use it

810
00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 3: as a as a person to get better at everything

811
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:01,359
Speaker 3: that you do, then you or not using every tool

812
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 3: that you have. So I really took that in my

813
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:05,880
Speaker 3: brain right and you know that I eat pretty clean anyway,

814
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 3: but it is amazing. I just go into it and

815
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Speaker 3: I plug in the macros and I was like, this

816
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:12,720
Speaker 3: is what I'm trying to eat today, make me meals.

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00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 4: And so I actually had it make me meals. I

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00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:17,279
Speaker 4: had it make me a shopping list.

819
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Speaker 3: I told at the grocery stores I shop in and

820
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Speaker 3: the area I live in, and it separated the list

821
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Speaker 3: of where to shop to get the best prices on

822
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Speaker 3: what I needed.

823
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Speaker 4: I told it I wanted to buy bulks so that

824
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Speaker 4: I got.

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Speaker 3: The most affordable, cost effective way to eat clean under

826
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Speaker 3: these macros, and it built it all for me.

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Speaker 4: And then every day, like if I miss a meal,

828
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:35,319
Speaker 4: I just.

829
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Speaker 3: Go into that same chat and I'm like, hey, I

830
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:39,759
Speaker 3: missed meal three, so now give me a different meal

831
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Speaker 3: using the same ingredients for meals two and.

832
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Speaker 4: Four can buy so that I get the same macro.

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00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:45,799
Speaker 4: It does everything. I don't have to think anymore. Buck like,

834
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Speaker 4: this is amazing. It's electric.

835
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Speaker 3: It tells me what to do, and I'm so good

836
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 3: at just doing exactly what I'm told.

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Speaker 4: Ah, it's a delight.

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Speaker 6: I think that if I tried that, it would then

839
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Speaker 6: try and talk me out of doing things like order

840
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Speaker 6: an eighteen dollar coffee on Uber Eats because it's the

841
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:04,400
Speaker 6: only thing I want. I don't want it a breakfast sandwich.

842
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:06,480
Speaker 6: I don't want you know, tater tots or something like that.

843
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:08,000
Speaker 6: I just want my coffee. And if it cost me

844
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Speaker 6: eighteen dollars, then fine, It'll cost me eighteen dollars. I

845
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Speaker 6: don't want chat GPT to rob me of that joy.

846
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Speaker 4: We are so different, like just the concept the concept.

847
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Speaker 4: Like I was looking at my.

848
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Speaker 3: Credit card transactions and there was a dash pass transaction

849
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Speaker 3: on there. I don't pay for dash pass at all,

850
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Speaker 3: and like I literally spent twenty minutes on hold with

851
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Speaker 3: the credit card company to contest a ten dollars dash

852
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Speaker 3: pass is I'm not paying ten bucks for Like I'm

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Speaker 3: not no, no, and you're out here getting eighteen dollar

854
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Speaker 3: coffee like I'm I'm sitting here and I'm like doing

855
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 3: a cost analysis of it.

856
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:39,919
Speaker 4: Can I make my own tea?

857
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:42,920
Speaker 3: And how much is when I bought my iced coffee maker,

858
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:45,240
Speaker 3: I sat down and I did the price per cup

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Speaker 3: of a currig versus a pot versus like how much

860
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Speaker 3: the maker would cost versus how much how many cups.

861
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Speaker 4: Of coffee I would get? Like I'm cheap.

862
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:55,239
Speaker 3: Dude, I am to my core cheap so that I

863
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:56,799
Speaker 3: don't have to be cheap when I don't want to

864
00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:59,239
Speaker 3: be cheap. You are out here getting eighteen dollars cups

865
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Speaker 3: of coffee.

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00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:03,359
Speaker 6: You have Chad GPT, I have a financial advisor. So

867
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Speaker 6: if I say, hey, I spend eighteen dollars on a

868
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:07,840
Speaker 6: cup of coffee last month, and he said, yeah, you

869
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:09,280
Speaker 6: probably shouldn't do that again.

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Speaker 5: And be like, okay, that's fine.

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Speaker 3: To be fair, if I had had any money to

872
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Speaker 3: have a financial advisor when I was your age, I

873
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:18,480
Speaker 3: wouldn't have to be cheap when I'm my age. I

874
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 3: eventually we all pay the cost to the consequence comes

875
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Speaker 3: through everywhere.

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Speaker 4: Question for you, why do owners stink? All right?

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Speaker 3: I just want to start this conversation with you because

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00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:31,680
Speaker 3: you mentioned the Pacers Ownership group and terrible. I just

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00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 3: I hear this constantly with fan bases. We talked earlier

880
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:37,560
Speaker 3: about the Knicks and you know James Dolan and coming

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Speaker 3: around and getting Mike Brown as the head coach, and

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Speaker 3: you just look across the landscape.

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Speaker 4: How many owners? How many fans right now?

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Speaker 3: Do you think actually look around and say, man, I

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Speaker 3: love my favorite team's owner, they do a great job.

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Speaker 3: It just feels like there are more bad than good

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Speaker 3: owners across the landscape of sports.

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Speaker 5: It just depends on what you mean by bad.

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Speaker 6: Right ownership, I think is a reflection of us as fans,

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Speaker 6: Like I think I think sometimes when we get emotional

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Speaker 6: about things that our teams do, and we get irrational

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Speaker 6: about things that our teams do, I think that's the

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Speaker 6: exact same thing that happens to owners, especially these ones

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Speaker 6: in smaller markets who operate their franchises like mom and

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Speaker 6: pop shops that paid you know, twenty million dollars for

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Speaker 6: them back in nineteen sixty five or something like that,

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Speaker 6: but now they're billion dollar franchises and they're being run

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Speaker 6: by the same mom and pop style. So I think

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Speaker 6: it's one of those things whereas fans, we look in

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Speaker 6: the mirror, we look at them, and we see a

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Speaker 6: little bit of what they see as far as the

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Speaker 6: irrational fandom, and we're like, I don't necessarily like the

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Speaker 6: way that that looks, even though that's probably the behavior

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Speaker 6: that fans can identify with the most.

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Speaker 3: It's wild to me because there's this element of I

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Speaker 3: see it all the time on like bar rescue. You'll

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Speaker 3: see somebody go in and buy a bar, and then

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Speaker 3: they'll say, well six, I've got five successful businesses. And

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Speaker 3: John Tapper will ask if you ever run a bar, No,

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Speaker 3: and you're surprised your bar is failing. I think the

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Speaker 3: same applies to sports. We'll keep breaking it down. He's

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Speaker 3: buck rising. I'm Jason fitz On, two pros and a

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Speaker 3: cup of Joe