1 00:00:03,640 --> 00:00:06,960 Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson 2 00:00:07,360 --> 00:00:09,559 Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black 3 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:12,479 Speaker 1: and Gold Steelers Nation Radio. 4 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:17,080 Speaker 2: Welcome to the Drive. 5 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 3: It is a victory Monday here in Pittsburgh as the 6 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 3: Steelers take down the Washington Commanders twenty eight to twenty 7 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 3: seven on Sunday down in Landover, Mary, not exactly in Washington, 8 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:32,199 Speaker 3: d C. 9 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:36,959 Speaker 2: But Matt, great win, great win, come back win. 10 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 3: The Steelers overcame a ten point second half deficit. A 11 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 3: lot of things to unravel here. The first thing I 12 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:47,159 Speaker 3: wanted to set talk about though, And I'm not talking 13 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 3: to our listeners. 14 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 2: I'm not talking to you. 15 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 3: I'm talking to the national media who basically slandered Russell 16 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 3: Wilson for the past I don't know, two seasons when 17 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 3: he was in Denver and then when the Steelers acquired him. 18 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:04,960 Speaker 3: Oh he's washed up, he's done, blah blah blah, he's 19 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 3: a bad leader. Bat Like, where are these people? None 20 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:10,560 Speaker 3: of that stuff is true. 21 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:12,319 Speaker 4: Right, I mean, I don't know where it came from. 22 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:12,760 Speaker 5: There. 23 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 4: I wasn't there. 24 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 2: There were some like Mark Schlereth and guys like that. 25 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:21,120 Speaker 4: I'm not one to blame the organization or whatever. I 26 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 4: don't know. I didn't think we're going down this road 27 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 4: to start things off. But he's sure been a revelation 28 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:26,320 Speaker 4: for the Steelers. 29 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 2: Maybe it wasn't Maybe it wasn't him, Maybe it was you. 30 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 4: Maybe it was a team that is the longest playoff 31 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:34,400 Speaker 4: drought in the league and could be that ownership. 32 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 3: Got a field goal blocked yesterday in the closing seconds 33 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:38,840 Speaker 3: in a game that they were ready to win against 34 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:39,759 Speaker 3: the Kansas City Chiefs. 35 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 4: And if you think about it, I mean, Wilson was 36 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:46,399 Speaker 4: a Bronco for two seasons, saw three head coaches like, 37 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 4: maybe it's not you, it's me. Yeah, I mean I 38 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 4: said that all the time about the Bears. They even't 39 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 4: had a quarterback since Sid Luckman, Like, do you think 40 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 4: it's every one of the guys they've drafted fault not them? 41 00:01:57,800 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 4: And now they're going to ruin this guy. 42 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 3: I think the Browns are drawn twenty five quarterbacks and 43 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 3: they've been it might be twenty seven, right whatever, Wow, 44 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 3: Reminian is since they came back into Lake since nineteen 45 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 3: ninety nine, because the quarterbacks have all been bad. 46 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 5: Right. 47 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 4: Do you think there's drama around the Jets all of 48 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 4: a sudden. 49 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 3: So where I was going with that is, Yeah, where 50 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 3: you land matters, The team around you matters, The culture 51 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 3: that's in that locker room matters. 52 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:26,920 Speaker 4: More so than maybe even the player. I like, especially 53 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 4: like draft, Yeah, you know, like where did you land? Okay, 54 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:32,799 Speaker 4: I'll invest in them then or do you trust them? 55 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:35,520 Speaker 4: You know, not even who the player is necessarily Yeah, 56 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 4: So I mean it's kind of the same position. It's 57 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:40,919 Speaker 4: kind of the same conversations we were having about Justin Fields. 58 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 4: Justin Fields in Chicago. Oh, he was a mess. He 59 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 4: can't do this, he can't do that. He comes to Pittsburgh, 60 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:48,959 Speaker 4: Darnold with the Jets. It was so much with Caroline. Yeah, 61 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 4: I mean there's a lot of examples. Right, put me 62 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 4: in a decent spot Baker with the Browns, and we 63 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 4: keep bringing up the same teams. It's total coincidence. But 64 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 4: my eighteen year old is starting to really realize that. 65 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 4: He's like, can any of these teams ever win in 66 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:04,640 Speaker 4: my lifetime? I'm like, not consistently. I don't know. 67 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 3: They may have a year here or there where they 68 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 3: you know, catch lightning in a bottle, but it's never consistent. 69 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 4: It's not I'm like Yeah, he might all line up 70 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 4: and maybe because I told him that the Lions used 71 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 4: to be that team and now I think they can win. 72 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 2: They've changed the culture. 73 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, they've made drastic changes, but nine out of ten examples, 74 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 4: you're one hundred percent right. 75 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:26,080 Speaker 3: It's really difficult to change the cultures. And I'll give 76 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:29,639 Speaker 3: Washington credit. I think they are changing the culture. 77 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:32,400 Speaker 4: I think that's I thought that was their own only 78 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 4: goal this offseason, change the culture. Hope you found a 79 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 4: quarterback with the second overall pick. I think they absolutely 80 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 4: did all that. That's a hard job to do, and 81 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 4: it looks like they've done it. That being said, yeah, 82 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 4: played a game yesterday. 83 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 3: They played a game yesterday and Jaden Daniels had his 84 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 3: worst game as a pro. 85 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 4: Absolutely did. But I didn't think he was bad. He wasn't. 86 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 3: I'm not saying that he was bad. He did some 87 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 3: really good things in that game, yep. But the Steelers 88 00:03:57,200 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 3: made him look as bad as he's looked all season. 89 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 4: Yes, So I've done a bunch of shows already today. 90 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 4: And I think this goes back to the Giant game too. 91 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 4: Why Tyrone Tracy run so much on them because they 92 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 4: don't Wan Daniel Jones to you know what I mean, 93 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 4: and people don't gonna quate him the same way they 94 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 4: do Lamar and Daniels. And there are different types of runners. 95 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 4: The quarterback rushing can really, really. 96 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 2: Really hurt you because you're not accounting for that unless. 97 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 4: You are, unless you are unless you are. And I 98 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 4: think a question I've been brought up several times to 99 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 4: me already today is just playing Daniels and then I 100 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 4: throw Jones and prepare you for Lamar And I'm like, no, 101 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 4: it's the other way around. They were good against those 102 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:39,600 Speaker 4: two because they know how to prepare against Lamar. The 103 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:42,280 Speaker 4: NFC doesn't know how to deal with Lamar. The Steelers do, 104 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 4: and they do the Lamar rules to Daniels yesterday. Yeah, 105 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 4: he has it with five rushing yards and you walk 106 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 4: out there were the win. 107 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:49,359 Speaker 2: That was this thing that struck me. 108 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:49,919 Speaker 4: You know. 109 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 2: You get to the end of that game and I'm 110 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 2: looking through this. 111 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 3: I pour through all the stats and start looking at stuff, 112 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 3: and I'm like, no tackles for TJ What no tackles 113 00:04:59,240 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 3: for Alex Heisman. 114 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 4: I won't talk about those two, but. 115 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:06,040 Speaker 3: The Steelers limited Daniels to three carries for five yards 116 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 3: four of that. 117 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 2: Came on one rush, right that. 118 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 3: I mean Patrick Queen looked like he was shot out 119 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 3: of a cannon to keep it to a four yard game, 120 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 3: and they had sixty rushing yards. The running backs didn't 121 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 3: hurt them, no, but it was because Watt and Highsmith 122 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:27,279 Speaker 3: are responsible for the quarterback in that situation. Yes, so 123 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:30,360 Speaker 3: if the quarterback never runs the ball, they're not gonna 124 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 3: have any tackles because they're exactly they're crashing to keep 125 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 3: him contained in the pocket and the ball. And that 126 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:39,840 Speaker 3: it deterred him from doing a lot of the read 127 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 3: option stuff. If the if, the if, the outside, if 128 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 3: your edge rushers are where they're supposed to be. 129 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:46,839 Speaker 2: At, He's not going to tuck the ball. He's not. 130 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 3: He's going to keep it himself and run. He didn't 131 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:51,040 Speaker 3: do that at all. I think he puts this. 132 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 4: In your ten thoughts, righteah, because I've been saying a 133 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:57,039 Speaker 4: lot of the same thing today. That so his job 134 00:05:57,080 --> 00:05:59,719 Speaker 4: in those read option situation is to read that edge, 135 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 4: the defensive end outside linebacker calling whatever you want, but 136 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 4: they can play it so that he favors him to 137 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 4: hand the ball off, which is exactly what they're doing. 138 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 4: And therefore guess what Patrick Queen is also in those 139 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 4: defensive meetings. He's key in the running back right, you 140 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 4: know what I mean? Like it's it's not the fool 141 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:20,360 Speaker 4: proof planer. Everyone do it all the time, but the 142 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:23,359 Speaker 4: Steelers execute it really, really well. And a huge thing 143 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 4: I've been saying about high Smith and Watt and I 144 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:26,800 Speaker 4: guess we could put Preston Smith in there, but he's 145 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:31,599 Speaker 4: new is they're such good football players, but they're really 146 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 4: smart players and they're really unselfish. Like if TJ. Watt 147 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 4: decided I don't care about this team. 148 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 2: I want to do that. I want to go get 149 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 2: six sacks in this game. 150 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 4: I want to then hit get six sacks in the game, 151 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 4: you know what I mean? Like he could set the 152 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:46,040 Speaker 4: sack lee. If he played how he wanted to play, 153 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:49,159 Speaker 4: only to get sacks, he'd have a million. But he's not. 154 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 4: I'll eat up lockers. 155 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:51,360 Speaker 2: I'll do that. 156 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 4: I'll maybe get an extra hit on the quarterback and 157 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:53,920 Speaker 4: we'll win. 158 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought the defensive they gave up two drives 159 00:06:57,560 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 3: in the game, one at the end of the first half. 160 00:06:59,839 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 3: The was aided by a couple of penalties on Joey 161 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 3: Porter Junior, and you have to know that, as Joey 162 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 3: Porter junior going into that game, that that crew is 163 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:07,919 Speaker 3: flag happy in the secondary. 164 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, we talked without that Friday and mclaurin's good. 165 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 2: And mclaurin's good. 166 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 3: They made a couple of plays and in the second 167 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 3: half they opened the second half, they hit a slant 168 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:16,800 Speaker 3: for fifty four yards. 169 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, that was a big play. It was. 170 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 2: It was amazing. 171 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 4: I mean the fake punt set them up level. 172 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 3: They had one hundred and forty eight yards on those 173 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 3: two drives in total yardage, they finished with two forty two, 174 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 3: so they had less than one hundred yards and the 175 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 3: rest of the game grives combined the rest of the game. 176 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 4: So while we're talking defensive strategy, we talked about how 177 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 4: they dealt with Daniels and he made a lot of 178 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:45,560 Speaker 4: contested throws too. I mean, he made some tight, tight windows. Question. 179 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 4: But I also thought something I've been a little critical 180 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 4: of the Steeler defense is I saw more coverage variety, 181 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 4: you know, like some of their safeties they weren't just 182 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:57,240 Speaker 4: dropping into cover three. They the most blitzes of any 183 00:07:57,480 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 4: game this year, you know, I mean different levels of 184 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 4: blit blitzing too. Sometimes it's just like a slow playing blitz, 185 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 4: so he doesn't have a lane. But I mean they 186 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 4: varied things up for the rookie, and we talked about 187 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 4: all last week, like he's not the average rookie. But 188 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 4: there's a reason Tomlin beat tricky quarterbacks every time because 189 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 4: they're still rookies, right, you know they haven't seen that stuff. 190 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 2: No, they held a third. 191 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 3: They held the ball for over thirty six minutes against 192 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 3: the team that really wants to control the football. A right, 193 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 3: good offense, really good offense, and so let's get to it. 194 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 3: That's one of the reasons why I thought they ran 195 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 3: the fake punt, because they knew they weren't going to 196 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:36,319 Speaker 3: keep Washington from scoring the whole day. 197 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 2: That offense is too right. 198 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 4: I think they're trying to steal possession. Yeah, they probably 199 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 4: went into that game saying, we if we could steal 200 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 4: possession here, that would go a long way. 201 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:47,080 Speaker 3: And if you look at it, Washington came into that game. 202 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:47,679 Speaker 3: I got a final. 203 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 2: They had thirteen to three and outs all season long. 204 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:53,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, they had two quarters of football. They didn't score points. 205 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:54,960 Speaker 4: Out of thirty six. 206 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:57,679 Speaker 3: Forty six percent of their commanders drives this season had 207 00:08:57,679 --> 00:09:02,079 Speaker 3: gone into the red zone. Yeah, most easily emotional. 208 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 4: League, and they settled for a lot of field goals, 209 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 4: but they're still they moved the football better than anyone 210 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 4: of the league. 211 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:07,960 Speaker 2: The Steelers held them. 212 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:11,720 Speaker 3: They held them to six three and outs on twelve 213 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 3: meaningful possession on twelve possessions. Uh, they were two of 214 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:20,240 Speaker 3: eleven in possessions that didn't start in the red zone 215 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 3: on the led to that, so two for eleven. Two 216 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:25,720 Speaker 3: of the eleven possessions that they had went into the 217 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:28,679 Speaker 3: red zone. Well, yeah, easily. I mean you you you 218 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:31,840 Speaker 3: limited that offense than everybody else. 219 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:33,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean they played some decent teams. I mean 220 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 4: that's by far their toughest day at the offense. Two 221 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 4: hundred and forty two yards you gave up, And yeah, 222 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 4: I heard a lot of people complain about the defense. 223 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 4: I'm like, I don't think you're looking into this or 224 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:42,720 Speaker 4: know the opponent. 225 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know. 226 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:46,199 Speaker 4: I'm like, maybe they didn't ever know they were started. 227 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:47,080 Speaker 2: In the league coming into that game. 228 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 4: In total yards, they're really hard to play again, and 229 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 4: they're really diverse, and they're really well coached, and they're 230 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:54,839 Speaker 4: physical and they got a lot of playmakers, including the 231 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:57,199 Speaker 4: quarterback you know what I mean, And so that was 232 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:00,240 Speaker 4: to me, that was what they did best maybe that game. Yeah, 233 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:02,080 Speaker 4: I thought it was great. You know, I thought they 234 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 4: if it's a front, controlled the action. Yeah, without a doubt. 235 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 4: And you know, if you were wondering about the run defense, 236 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 4: you know, what are they gonna do here? Well, it 237 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:12,680 Speaker 4: looks like they seem to fix some of the issues. 238 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 4: And one thing we threw about. 239 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:16,959 Speaker 3: God, the thing was that is on early downs when 240 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 3: they were in nickel Landon Roberts was out there. 241 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, I remember us throwing it out like maybe they 242 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 4: should try that, and well over the by we'll try 243 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 4: a little something different, you know, exactly made all sense 244 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:31,839 Speaker 4: in the world. But if it's third and eleven, he 245 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:33,320 Speaker 4: doesn't need to be out there. Yeah right, well we'll 246 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 4: put the speed. 247 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 3: They played some dime, they played some nickel and that's 248 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 3: when Peyton Wilson was in there. 249 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 4: But yeah, it worked, absolutely worked. I thought Queen played great. 250 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:43,720 Speaker 4: Cam always plays great, you know, But the front in 251 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 4: general I thought was really good. Benton had a really 252 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 4: good game again, you know. So no, it was promising 253 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:50,440 Speaker 4: against it and they want to say it's a hundred 254 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 4: times against a high quality opponent. Yeah, I mean some 255 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 4: of the offenses they played this year aren't I mean 256 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 4: raiders and some of these teams are not great on offense. 257 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:00,280 Speaker 4: This is probably going to finish is like a top 258 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 4: five offense. 259 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean again, you held them two hundred and 260 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:06,400 Speaker 3: forty two yards. Well, it should have been probably twenty points, 261 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 3: but it just ended up. So let's talk about the 262 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 3: fake punt. Everybody was up in arms about that. How 263 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 3: could they how could they call that? How could they 264 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 3: call that? Well, first of all, it wasn't a planned 265 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 3: It was planned, but unplanned. You were only going to 266 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 3: do that if you've got a certain look from Washington. 267 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 4: It wasn't like they don't cover them. 268 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 3: The jam The jammer with about five seconds before the 269 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 3: snap suddenly runs in to go for the block, leaving 270 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:39,120 Speaker 3: James Pierre out there all by himself. Miles killer Brewce's 271 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 3: that they had talked about that during the week. They 272 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 3: had practiced it. 273 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:43,720 Speaker 4: That's something Washington has done. 274 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, they they had put that on tape that they 275 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 3: would do it in those kind of situations. And so 276 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 3: the Steelers said, all right, if they do that, we're 277 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:54,400 Speaker 3: going to practice this. They did practice it, and we're 278 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:57,959 Speaker 3: going to do this, and they did it. I don't 279 00:11:58,000 --> 00:11:59,960 Speaker 3: have a problem with the call. You're being a great 280 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:04,080 Speaker 3: They're leaving your gunner completely uncovered. I don't care who 281 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:04,720 Speaker 3: the gunner is. 282 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:06,320 Speaker 4: No, I don't care the gunner is. 283 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 3: And everything worked except for the catch. Everything was there 284 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 3: except for the catch. 285 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, Pierre catches that to me nine out of ten times. 286 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 4: And again I've reiterated this all day. It's like, how 287 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 4: could you have a safety throw into a cornerback. No, 288 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:22,960 Speaker 4: you've an athlete throw into an athlete. I mean that 289 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 4: is not I don't need the Marino out route. I 290 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 4: just need me and you in the backyard. 291 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:30,200 Speaker 2: Put it out there and catch it. 292 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 4: And an athlete's gonna catch it. Most of the time, 293 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 4: he didn't in this instance. It wasn't the prettiest throw. Ever, 294 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:39,319 Speaker 4: the Killer Brew has thrown a football before and can 295 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:40,319 Speaker 4: make that throws. 296 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:44,080 Speaker 3: There's nobody playing in the NFL who has not, at 297 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:46,560 Speaker 3: one time or another thrown the football. 298 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:48,560 Speaker 2: Right, there's nobody We've seen. 299 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 3: We go to training camp or a training camp every 300 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:52,719 Speaker 3: year or at OTAs or whatever it is, and you've 301 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:55,160 Speaker 3: got offensive lineman practicing fielding punts. 302 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 2: Just they're messing around doing it. 303 00:12:56,920 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 4: But they've been in the football field a lot, they've 304 00:12:58,600 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 4: played footballs with their buddies. 305 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:01,560 Speaker 2: They know what this is like. They've tried. 306 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:03,960 Speaker 4: Both of our listeners, we've caught it football and many 307 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:06,440 Speaker 4: other our listeners would have caught that ball. Even if 308 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:08,319 Speaker 4: he has corner back hands. So maybe he was a 309 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 4: wide receiver. 310 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 2: Nobody within fifteen yards of him. 311 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 4: Right, He'll be the first to tell you I should 312 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 4: catch it every time, and you should and you didn't. Okay, 313 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:16,840 Speaker 4: that's why they play the games. But in a way, 314 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:19,760 Speaker 4: it's kind of like if it was second and ten 315 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 4: and they walked their corner out and didn't guard Calvin Austen. 316 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 3: And you had a run play college, you check out 317 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 3: of the run it to him right like. 318 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 4: So I had no problem with the because the look. 319 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 4: I had assumed that anytime we see this look, starting 320 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 4: in week one, we're just gonna throw them the ball. 321 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 4: I'm like, if you're gonna be that risky, we'll throw 322 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:42,720 Speaker 4: in the ball. But apparently Washington is putting us on tape 323 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 4: before you know, so maybe it was a higher alert 324 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 4: you know that might be happening this. 325 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's again, I can't we can't. 326 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:50,079 Speaker 4: And if he catches it, we're talking about how smart. 327 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:52,960 Speaker 3: It's the greatest playever. You can't say, oh, because it 328 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:54,719 Speaker 3: didn't work, Oh, that's an awful play. 329 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 4: And that's the right call, even if they're on the 330 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 4: one yard. 331 00:13:57,000 --> 00:13:58,440 Speaker 3: And I've heard people say, well, you wouldn't do that 332 00:13:58,480 --> 00:13:59,959 Speaker 3: if you know, if you're leading down you know it's 333 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 3: twenty seven to twenty and you're punning in the fourth quarter, Well, 334 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 3: obviously you're not going to do it then. 335 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 4: I don't know, it's a really easy play to execute. 336 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:10,079 Speaker 3: You're not, but you're not gonna do it in a situationally, 337 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:11,440 Speaker 3: you're not gonna do it like. 338 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:13,280 Speaker 4: There'll be not if you're trying to close out a game. 339 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 3: That's a that's a conversation that that Danny Smith has 340 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 3: with Killer Brew. You know they do it on kick returns. 341 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 3: Danny Smith will pull the two kick returners aside say hey, 342 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:26,600 Speaker 3: we're I don't care where this ball's kick, We're just 343 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 3: gonna down it. 344 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 4: Yeah. People need to realize Killer Brew is the quarterback, right, 345 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:33,440 Speaker 4: I mean he's doing all the personal protector checks and 346 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 4: doing all the Yeah. Yeah, I mean that center needs 347 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 4: to notice snap it to him, not the punter obviously, 348 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 4: but I wonder Danny may not even said a thing 349 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 4: to him when they walked on the field. I mean, 350 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 4: this is just something they knew, they talked about. 351 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 3: They have a Special Teams meeting every Saturday morning. Yeah, 352 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:51,040 Speaker 3: and I guarantee you that was gone over. I'm sure 353 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 3: sure hear the situation. If we get into this situation 354 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 3: and they do it right, we're gonna go We're gonna 355 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:57,760 Speaker 3: we're gonna run this fake yeah. 356 00:14:57,840 --> 00:15:00,600 Speaker 4: I mean Danny's not in his headset agree dotting them 357 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 4: or going fake it, fake it from the sidelines. You know, 358 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:05,120 Speaker 4: this has been talked about throughout the week. 359 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 3: Because you see things so we can't you can't credit 360 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 3: the Special teams, which have been great this season. They've 361 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 3: come up with play playing and came up with another 362 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:18,080 Speaker 3: one and got another one for getting blocks and things 363 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 3: of that nature. Because when you go for a block 364 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 3: on a kick, it's aggressive. You're not you're not setting 365 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 3: up a return, right yea, yeah, yeah, you're not. You're 366 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 3: not blocking on your return, so that can go badly too. 367 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:30,600 Speaker 3: And you can also do things like. 368 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 2: Running into the punter and penalty. 369 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 3: So if you're going to be aggressive, be aggressive and 370 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:39,160 Speaker 3: they are, and they're aggressive ones, and they trust the 371 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 3: killer Brews and Scornics and why they have these veteran 372 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 3: guys yep. 373 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 4: I mean. Weird little thing that we were talking about 374 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 4: earlier is like remember when we didn't know who their 375 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:49,640 Speaker 4: gunners were going to be. You know, like we were 376 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:51,920 Speaker 4: having a conversation with with Wolf and Rob and Mail 377 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 4: bring it up to him and he's on again. You know, Wow, 378 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 4: great job by Omar to go get Mike Williams and 379 00:15:56,840 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 4: Preston Smith, and boy did that payoff. I mean, but 380 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 4: I'm there going make sure I'm going to get Scornic Kavich, 381 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 4: you know, like at the bottom of the roster. Special 382 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 4: team ors allow you to do these things. Yeah, not 383 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 4: every teamould trust their guys. 384 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 3: And I had the conversation yesterday after the game was 385 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:18,280 Speaker 3: Scronic and I asked him, I said, was that something 386 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 3: that you guys had seen on tape from Washington? 387 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:22,760 Speaker 2: Had they been muffing punts? 388 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 3: He goes, no, you know, I watched him in warm 389 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 3: ups and he was struggling in warm ups because the 390 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 3: wind was swirling there. Yeah, so you just put that 391 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 3: in the back of your mind. And he said a 392 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 3: lot of a lot of teams, A lot of guys 393 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 3: struggle with cordless weightman because he's a left footed punter, 394 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 3: so the ball is a different spin on it. 395 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 4: Always got a lefty punter just for that reason. 396 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 3: He said, We've seen teams struggle catching the ball from him. 397 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 3: He said, and you know we saw we saw Hi 398 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 3: muff the first one. Now he got back on it and. 399 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 2: He said, so. 400 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 3: Peers peers in front of him or peer peers just 401 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 3: behind him. He had called for the fair catch. So 402 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 3: they did it exactly how you're supposed to it. One 403 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:58,120 Speaker 3: goes behind, one goes in front. When that ball goes 404 00:16:58,120 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 3: on the ground, boom, you're the first two people on it. 405 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:02,480 Speaker 4: Side note, I've always thought about this, and I laughed 406 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:04,680 Speaker 4: to myself, like, if I'm one of those two gunners 407 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:05,920 Speaker 4: and the ball still in the air and he calls 408 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 4: a fair catch, what am I yelling to that dude? 409 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:13,360 Speaker 4: You're like slapshot behind the net? Yeah, your mom right? 410 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 4: Like I could come up with the craziest things. I 411 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:17,800 Speaker 4: possibly I didn't ask him that, right, I wonder what 412 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:21,240 Speaker 4: has said, like do homework on his background? Yet? Who 413 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:23,240 Speaker 4: was his childhood bully that beat him up and bring 414 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:25,200 Speaker 4: that name up, you know, while he's trying to catch 415 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 4: that part. 416 00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:30,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, so once again your defense of special teams made 417 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:32,520 Speaker 3: big plays. Now there's special teams also gave on up. 418 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:33,680 Speaker 3: The defense gave up some play. 419 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:37,000 Speaker 4: Special teams was a wash. Yeah, you know, but you'll 420 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:38,879 Speaker 4: take that. You'll take it. But it easily could have 421 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:42,159 Speaker 4: been a huge advantage. Yeah, but I mean that the 422 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:45,199 Speaker 4: fake punt cost him, but bad execution it was. 423 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:48,640 Speaker 3: I mean, everything was there except for the final part 424 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:49,320 Speaker 3: of the execution. 425 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 4: I hope they do it again. 426 00:17:50,359 --> 00:17:53,119 Speaker 3: If the Ravens give the same look, I would imagine. 427 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:55,720 Speaker 3: I don't know that anybody would at this point anymore, No. 428 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 4: Why you would. But right, if you see that, throw 429 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:01,159 Speaker 4: it to the open guy, right, I've often could you 430 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 4: see other teams do that sometimes and I'm like, why 431 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 4: won't you just toss it out there? 432 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 2: You're gonna leave that guy? 433 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:06,200 Speaker 5: I know. 434 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:08,639 Speaker 4: It makes no sense to me too, Like the Rams 435 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 4: did a lot of that because their punter was a 436 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:12,200 Speaker 4: really good passer. Yeah, it wasn't even personal. 437 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:15,679 Speaker 3: Press When the Steelers drafted Pressley Harvin, one of the 438 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:17,760 Speaker 3: things that everybody talked about. He threw the ball one 439 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:20,920 Speaker 3: time in college once he completed it, but he threw 440 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:24,120 Speaker 3: it one time. And I saw that play replayed over 441 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:26,359 Speaker 3: and over and over again clips and people talked about, 442 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:28,960 Speaker 3: well again, I Pressley Harvin, throw you throw the ball? 443 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:31,280 Speaker 3: Well that's when you do it. Yeah, you don't throw 444 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:34,480 Speaker 3: when when the guy's covered. Yeah, all you gotta do 445 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:36,479 Speaker 3: is just get it out there to beautiful. We're not 446 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 3: asking our punter to throw, you know, throw a fifteen 447 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:41,159 Speaker 3: yard out. You just toss it out there for him 448 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 3: to catch it. 449 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:44,439 Speaker 4: And a big thing like, no one cares if your 450 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 4: kickers are necessarily a good athlete, but if your punter 451 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:48,680 Speaker 4: is has a history typically has. 452 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:50,160 Speaker 2: The second best hands on the team. 453 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:53,359 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean they're the holder frozen balls coming in 454 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:56,560 Speaker 4: that are wet and things like that behind the quarterbacks, folks. 455 00:18:56,600 --> 00:18:58,360 Speaker 4: But a lot of those guys are former quarterbacks. Yeah, 456 00:18:58,400 --> 00:18:59,200 Speaker 4: you know the punters. 457 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:01,159 Speaker 2: So I have a problem with it. 458 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:03,359 Speaker 4: No, we haven't talked that. Look do it. 459 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:05,480 Speaker 3: We haven't talked about the offense much. We're gonna do 460 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:07,320 Speaker 3: that when we come back, when we talk with Rob King. 461 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 3: He will join us here on the Justin Miller hot line. 462 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:14,600 Speaker 3: He's Matt Miller, Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lolly. You're 463 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:17,200 Speaker 3: listening to the Drive here on the Steelers Audio Network. 464 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:19,199 Speaker 3: Matt and now will be back with more right after this. 465 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:25,960 Speaker 1: At least is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt 466 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:28,879 Speaker 1: Williamson on your twenty four to seven home of the 467 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:32,119 Speaker 1: Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio. 468 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:37,320 Speaker 2: Welcome back. I am Dale Lolly. 469 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:40,400 Speaker 3: He is the Matt Williamson and we're joined on the 470 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:44,200 Speaker 3: Justin Miller Hotline. We just call it like the JM Hotline. 471 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:47,480 Speaker 3: Then people think it's like sponsored or something. The Justin 472 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 3: should be sponsored. The Justin Miller hot Line should be sponsored. 473 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:53,960 Speaker 3: Let's get to this, folks. Somebody sponsored the Justin Miller 474 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:58,440 Speaker 3: hot Line. Anyways, we're joined now by Steelers play by 475 00:19:58,440 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 3: play announcer Rob King. 476 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 2: Rob down in Landover, Maryland with me uh in the 477 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 2: rest of us. 478 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 3: Yesterday apparently half a Steelers Nation was there yesterday, Robert 479 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 3: once again taking over a stadium. And I think I 480 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:14,880 Speaker 3: thought I played a factor in that game. How about yourself? 481 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:17,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, first of all, it's Miller time. 482 00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:19,640 Speaker 2: There you go, It's mill of time. 483 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:23,359 Speaker 5: I'm just showed it out there for Justin Miller in 484 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:24,399 Speaker 5: the Miller Hotline. 485 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 6: Yeah, it was impressive to see as it always is, 486 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 6: and it always seems. 487 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 5: To come at the right time. 488 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 6: Like, you know, you're looking around and you're like, there's 489 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 6: a lot of Steelers fans here, and then all of 490 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:41,960 Speaker 6: a sudden, it's the fourth quarter and it's like they've 491 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:42,920 Speaker 6: been beamed dead. 492 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:46,840 Speaker 2: They've multiplied. Well, the game was going on. 493 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, midnight, you know Norway. 494 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:53,800 Speaker 6: Uh, you know, they're they're West Alley eighty, you know, 495 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:57,359 Speaker 6: they're they're all coming in from all over the Pittsburgh region. 496 00:20:58,080 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 6: And all of a sudden you look up and it's 497 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:03,040 Speaker 6: like it looks like every second or third person has 498 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:05,040 Speaker 6: a terrible talent a visiting stadium. 499 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:06,240 Speaker 5: It's just it's unbelievable. 500 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 3: All they need to all they needed to do was 501 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:12,000 Speaker 3: play Renegade in the fourth quarter that place might right right. 502 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:15,600 Speaker 6: It was, Uh, it was wonderful to see and I think, 503 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 6: you know, definitely a factor. And and I think the 504 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:22,640 Speaker 6: thing that's cool too, is that free is that sorry 505 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:25,399 Speaker 6: I let my dog outs, you will. 506 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:27,320 Speaker 5: Go on unless I say free. 507 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:31,440 Speaker 2: Of course, that's that's the code word. 508 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:34,879 Speaker 5: Sure, yeah, that's the code word. You know. 509 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:39,400 Speaker 7: I think it's a it's a good uh not lesson, 510 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:44,679 Speaker 7: but a good welcome to Mike Williams and Preston Smith 511 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 7: and look, Press. 512 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:47,879 Speaker 6: Smith is in you know, Green Bay and they've got 513 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:50,280 Speaker 6: a great fan base. But there had to be a 514 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:53,639 Speaker 6: WOA factor of Wow, this is what it's like to 515 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:56,120 Speaker 6: play for the Pittsburgh Steelers and go on the road 516 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 6: and see all these people at the hotel and all 517 00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:01,000 Speaker 6: these people wishing you well and all the people sharing 518 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:03,200 Speaker 6: the boss or if you're on the other team, saluting 519 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:07,119 Speaker 6: the bus in a different way. But it's it's just 520 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:08,600 Speaker 6: different than any other fan base. 521 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 5: It's just different. And uh, it was on. 522 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 6: Display yesterday and and both those guys had big parts 523 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:15,560 Speaker 6: of the game. But I just think that's got to 524 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:18,439 Speaker 6: be like, wow, I'm in, I'm in kind of football 525 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:19,159 Speaker 6: in Nirvani here. 526 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 5: This is pretty good, Kinger. 527 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 3: We started the show by talking a little bit about 528 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:27,440 Speaker 3: Russell Wilson today and kind of the national narrative that 529 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:30,159 Speaker 3: was out there when when he came here that he 530 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:33,480 Speaker 3: was washed up, you know, the teammates didn't like him. 531 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:33,680 Speaker 5: All. 532 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 3: That's all that stuff that you heard out there, and 533 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:39,280 Speaker 3: we hear none of that now. I didn't think he 534 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:42,879 Speaker 3: played his best game on Sunday. I looked at that 535 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:45,680 Speaker 3: like it was a Ben Roethlisberger game. You didn't play 536 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 3: your best game, but you made the throws that mattered 537 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 3: at the in the big moments. And I saw I 538 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:54,240 Speaker 3: saw every game of Ben Roethlisberger played, and there would 539 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 3: be games that he would have like that where he 540 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:58,120 Speaker 3: all of a sudden they're down ten points and then 541 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:01,480 Speaker 3: like the he just looks the switch and boom, there 542 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:03,359 Speaker 3: it is and oh that's the guy number. 543 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:04,639 Speaker 4: Yeah. 544 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:07,880 Speaker 6: Yeah, I think that's a great point, you know, the narrative. 545 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:10,239 Speaker 6: And I always wonder, you know, kind of where that 546 00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:14,000 Speaker 6: narrative came from. I mean, I do think the play 547 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 6: on the field, you know, you have a bad and look. 548 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:19,040 Speaker 5: You can either excuse it, it can be a reason, 549 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:20,400 Speaker 5: it can be. 550 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 6: Whatever lens you're looking through to look at those two 551 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 6: years in Denver and say, okay, well you know it 552 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:28,679 Speaker 6: didn't work out. Uh, but you had Hack at the 553 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:31,520 Speaker 6: first year and he's just not even around anymore. 554 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 5: And then you know, you bring in another guy. 555 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:36,720 Speaker 6: Who's going to clean house and get things done his way, 556 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:39,440 Speaker 6: and you wind up as a quarterback and the high 557 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 6: profile quarterback having a solid season but winding up being 558 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:46,199 Speaker 6: a scapegoat. And so you know, I was happy to 559 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:48,640 Speaker 6: see guys like you know, Courtland Sutton came up and said, listen, 560 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:51,479 Speaker 6: I'll play with Ross. I'm happy to play with Ross. 561 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:53,600 Speaker 6: And maybe some of that, maybe some of the stuff 562 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:56,600 Speaker 6: that happened, you know, I'm sure some of it. You know, 563 00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:58,680 Speaker 6: there may be some stuff that Russell Wilson thinks, hey, 564 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:00,960 Speaker 6: maybe I should have done that differently. Maybe a learning 565 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 6: experience for all. But when you come here and you 566 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:07,439 Speaker 6: get a fresh start, and you do it with that 567 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:09,680 Speaker 6: little bit of knowledge that, hey, you've just been kind 568 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:14,440 Speaker 6: of nationally dissed for two years and never had any 569 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:17,800 Speaker 6: of that prior to that, you know, maybe that you know, 570 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:21,400 Speaker 6: the throw in the Super Bowl was about the closest 571 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:24,120 Speaker 6: he came to it. But this gout super Bowl winning quarterback, 572 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:27,560 Speaker 6: you know, nine time Pro bowler, Mary to a famous artist. 573 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:28,280 Speaker 5: You know, it's got. 574 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:30,760 Speaker 6: Everything going on, and now you're hearing some criticism. I 575 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:33,480 Speaker 6: just can't help but think that that has got to 576 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:35,960 Speaker 6: be a little bit of extra motivation for him. And 577 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:40,040 Speaker 6: then you come here and again we're reminded now of 578 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:43,239 Speaker 6: what you know, like you said, Ben Roethlisberger, what what 579 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:44,240 Speaker 6: a quarterback of that. 580 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:45,159 Speaker 5: ILK looks like? 581 00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:49,800 Speaker 6: And how you know, Mike Tomlin has done an amazing 582 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:54,119 Speaker 6: job manufacturing wins without the most important you know, a 583 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 6: star at the most important position in sports, and just 584 00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:59,080 Speaker 6: what it looks like when you have that player. It 585 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 6: looks completely different and feels completely different with Russell Wilson 586 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:03,800 Speaker 6: at the. 587 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:05,960 Speaker 4: Helm and you and I were talking on a different 588 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:08,280 Speaker 4: show along those lines. And it's not all Russ, but 589 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 4: he has a lot to do with it that the 590 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:13,760 Speaker 4: whole football team, not even just the offense, can now 591 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:17,080 Speaker 4: play with so much more room for error. I mean, 592 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 4: it used to be they threw a pick, They're not 593 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:20,560 Speaker 4: going to win this game, you know what I mean. 594 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:22,639 Speaker 4: Like it was that cut and dry there for a while. 595 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:26,960 Speaker 6: Yeah, and I think that, you know, there might have 596 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 6: been times in which you would have made a desperation 597 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:35,120 Speaker 6: fourth down call, you know, from your own territory. Hey, 598 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:37,960 Speaker 6: you know, we we got to try something here. They 599 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:39,520 Speaker 6: made one, you know, they made that. 600 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:42,160 Speaker 5: Decision to go for it. Ultimately, it was the drive 601 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 5: that Warren fumbled on, but you know, they made the 602 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:46,640 Speaker 5: decision to. 603 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:48,359 Speaker 6: Go for it on fourth down in their own territory. 604 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:51,520 Speaker 6: Right now, Dale, if you don't get that fourth down, 605 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:54,640 Speaker 6: I'm not sure you win that game. Oh absolutely, one 606 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:56,560 Speaker 6: first down, they take a field goal and you're down 607 00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:59,360 Speaker 6: two scores with what you know, five six minutes left 608 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:01,800 Speaker 6: in the clock and one time out remaining. That's not 609 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:04,040 Speaker 6: a good formula. I don't care who you have a quarterback. 610 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:07,199 Speaker 6: That's that's not a good formula for winning. So just 611 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:09,960 Speaker 6: the fact that you know, you have that faith that 612 00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:11,879 Speaker 6: your offense can do it, and that if it doesn't 613 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:13,679 Speaker 6: work out, hey you can call it fake putt. And 614 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:15,840 Speaker 6: you know what, we believe our defense is gonna stop, 615 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:17,119 Speaker 6: and they did in this time. But we got the 616 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:19,359 Speaker 6: offense and the kind of team that can come back. 617 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:23,359 Speaker 6: So I think that, you know, like you said, it's 618 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:26,520 Speaker 6: it's gonna have an effect. Guys, I think on everything 619 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 6: that the Steelers do. That one position we talk about, 620 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:31,919 Speaker 6: you know TJ. Watt having a trickle down effect. Right, 621 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:34,960 Speaker 6: he brings up you know, two offensive linemen after block 622 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:37,360 Speaker 6: him and somebody has to chip. Well, that chip guy 623 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:39,480 Speaker 6: now he has a harder time getting out in his 624 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:40,160 Speaker 6: pass route. 625 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:42,760 Speaker 5: So that helps, you know, the inside linebacker going out there. 626 00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:45,840 Speaker 6: Maybe you know, it helps somebody else in coverage as well. 627 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 6: It's gonna help the guy next to him who's gonna 628 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:50,640 Speaker 6: get one blocker instead of two. Well, the quarterback does 629 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:54,760 Speaker 6: that in an even greater aspect on your team, he can, 630 00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:59,200 Speaker 6: he can, you know, change a little bit of what 631 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:03,080 Speaker 6: you do in all facets of the game, offensively, defensively, 632 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:06,640 Speaker 6: special teams because you have faith that. 633 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:08,520 Speaker 5: He can score points for you. He can lead you 634 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:10,280 Speaker 5: down the field when you need it. 635 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:12,879 Speaker 6: Going back to what you originally said, Dale making the 636 00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:15,640 Speaker 6: throws when you have to was that his best game? 637 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:19,800 Speaker 5: No? Did the Steers score twenty eight points? Yeah? 638 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 6: I mean how often would we look at twenty eight 639 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:23,720 Speaker 6: points and think it was Manna from Heaven. 640 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:28,320 Speaker 4: Four touchdowns in the same game game, yeah. 641 00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:30,040 Speaker 5: Game with him a quarterback. 642 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:34,879 Speaker 3: Three touchdown passes, Yeah, four trips into the red zone. 643 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:37,360 Speaker 3: You know, Like these are things like if you got 644 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:39,679 Speaker 3: there were games in the previous couple of seasons if 645 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:41,920 Speaker 3: you made two trips into the red zone, I was like, wow, 646 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 3: I had a good game offensively, Like. 647 00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:46,760 Speaker 4: Bringing together two first downs was a chore. 648 00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:50,080 Speaker 3: And I thought, right the play that he made, the 649 00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:54,280 Speaker 3: one that Calvin Austin got hurt on, he rolled to 650 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:58,000 Speaker 3: his left, got some pressure initially, and then ran back 651 00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:01,560 Speaker 3: across the field to his right and found I believe 652 00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:05,119 Speaker 3: at the time it was it was first in fifteen 653 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:08,360 Speaker 3: or second and fifteen at that point, and he hit 654 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:11,119 Speaker 3: Austin for a eleven yard game. Now, Austin ended up 655 00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:13,399 Speaker 3: getting hurt on the play, which then led to Mike 656 00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:17,119 Speaker 3: Williams being into the game, in the game out, but 657 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:19,600 Speaker 3: watching that play as he scrambled around in the pocket 658 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:22,639 Speaker 3: and moved around back there, I'm like, that looked like 659 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:23,720 Speaker 3: vintage Russell. 660 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:26,600 Speaker 2: Wilson, like he could. He's still capable of doing those 661 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:27,080 Speaker 2: kind of things. 662 00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:29,040 Speaker 3: I know he's not the runner that he once was, 663 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:32,480 Speaker 3: but he does move move around out of pressure and 664 00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:34,400 Speaker 3: things of that nature, and can still feels it. 665 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:36,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, you can still escape and do some things. 666 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:40,200 Speaker 3: And the eyes are always downfield looking for the throws. 667 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:44,479 Speaker 6: Well, you know, there there is a you know, when 668 00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:47,920 Speaker 6: you get the great quarterbacks, whether it's Ben Roethlisberger especially, 669 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:52,000 Speaker 6: you know, if you're talking about mobility, but really, I 670 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,880 Speaker 6: think if you're talking about any town in general, even 671 00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:56,760 Speaker 6: if you said, hey, he's not as fast as he 672 00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,680 Speaker 6: used to be, or you know, quarterback acts his armies 673 00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:01,720 Speaker 6: and quat as strong as he used to be, there 674 00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 6: is still the ability to put. 675 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:08,760 Speaker 5: Up prime type of numbers, because you're just so smart. 676 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 6: You've just so you've you've been there and done that. 677 00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:14,120 Speaker 6: You know when to run, how to run, you know 678 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:16,280 Speaker 6: how to get out of a play. You know enough 679 00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:19,040 Speaker 6: to tell Mike Williams, hey, you're running the hitch. You know, 680 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:22,000 Speaker 6: this is probably not the first time something like that 681 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:23,000 Speaker 6: has happened. 682 00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:23,479 Speaker 5: To Russell Wilson. 683 00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:27,040 Speaker 6: You can't replace that sort of experience, and so you 684 00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:30,160 Speaker 6: know the prime I think of the great ones linger 685 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:34,280 Speaker 6: lingers beyond what their physical attributes say they should be 686 00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:38,680 Speaker 6: because of that game knowledge, that ability to make plays 687 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:42,160 Speaker 6: even without you know, your maybe the skills you had 688 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:44,080 Speaker 6: and the abilities you had at your absolute peak. 689 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:48,360 Speaker 4: So we referenced the Broncos. I mean Peyton Manning's last 690 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:51,440 Speaker 4: year in the league. He couldn't throw the football. I 691 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:54,880 Speaker 4: mean like I mean he could throw Manning won the 692 00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:57,720 Speaker 4: Super Bowl. He couldn't throw an out route. I mean 693 00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:00,720 Speaker 4: he had no arm strength whatsoever. And the thing about 694 00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:03,720 Speaker 4: Wilson that will never know, but I can promise you 695 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:06,480 Speaker 4: is very true. As he just gets him in the 696 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:08,560 Speaker 4: right place. I mean even just coming to the line 697 00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:11,120 Speaker 4: of scrimmage. He's not going to run into a nine 698 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:14,440 Speaker 4: man box. With six blockers, you know, like things like that, 699 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:17,520 Speaker 4: that just being around the block. 700 00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:21,760 Speaker 6: That's right, That's that's kind of what I'm what I'm 701 00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:23,800 Speaker 6: getting to is that you're gonna get you know, you're 702 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:27,440 Speaker 6: going to get the point totals and the productivity, and 703 00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:29,760 Speaker 6: it's just going to come in a little bit, maybe 704 00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:31,760 Speaker 6: in a little bit different way. You know, there are 705 00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:36,880 Speaker 6: things that Russell Wilson you know, can't do now that 706 00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:39,120 Speaker 6: he could when he was younger. But there are also 707 00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:42,000 Speaker 6: things that Russell Wilson can do now that he couldn't 708 00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:43,800 Speaker 6: do when he was younger. And a lot of that 709 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:48,240 Speaker 6: comes from just experience and being around the game. He's 710 00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:51,320 Speaker 6: always been an unbelievable student of the game, you know, 711 00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:55,760 Speaker 6: great great work ethic, and always been praised for that 712 00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:58,840 Speaker 6: in his preparation level. But there are some things where 713 00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:01,400 Speaker 6: you just needs experience to get through them. 714 00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:03,160 Speaker 5: And so Russell Wilson is at that. 715 00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:07,040 Speaker 6: Point where you know, he's marrying still very good skills 716 00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:10,320 Speaker 6: with that experience level that that literally can't be taught. 717 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:11,960 Speaker 6: You just have to go through it, you know, I 718 00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:13,400 Speaker 6: don't care how much film said that you have. 719 00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:15,520 Speaker 5: There are things where you just have to be out 720 00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:17,880 Speaker 5: on the field, and Russell Wilson's been out on the. 721 00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:21,880 Speaker 6: Field and so you know, he's still able to perform 722 00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:24,560 Speaker 6: and has been able to perform at a high level. Again, 723 00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:28,240 Speaker 6: I do have to remind all of us, myself included, 724 00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:31,880 Speaker 6: that it is three games, right, but these are the things, 725 00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:33,640 Speaker 6: and so much of what you see is through the 726 00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:37,000 Speaker 6: lens of what you want to you know, perceive. But 727 00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:42,440 Speaker 6: he is performing in a way that makes you optimistic that. 728 00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:43,440 Speaker 5: This can continue. 729 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:46,000 Speaker 6: And if this can continue, the kids are a different 730 00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:47,680 Speaker 6: level of contemper Oh. 731 00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:48,280 Speaker 2: Absolutely. 732 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:50,920 Speaker 3: And you know, just one last thing on Russ, I 733 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:56,320 Speaker 3: mean drawing them off sides. Yeah, on that final you know, 734 00:31:56,920 --> 00:32:00,000 Speaker 3: just just knowing like they weren't going to run a place, 735 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:02,680 Speaker 3: there was no play called. The only thing you were 736 00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:04,840 Speaker 3: going to do is try to draw them off sides, 737 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:09,560 Speaker 3: and they all sold it, including Wilson, And you know 738 00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:12,200 Speaker 3: you do that with the voice inflection, and you know 739 00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:16,320 Speaker 3: it's really difficult to do that without you know, flinching 740 00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:17,400 Speaker 3: your head or something like that. 741 00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:19,040 Speaker 2: That's gonna, you know, draw you a penalty. 742 00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:22,120 Speaker 3: And I still don't know that Washington, you know, wins 743 00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:25,200 Speaker 3: that game if they do get the ball back, but they. 744 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:27,080 Speaker 2: Would have had a chance, They would have. 745 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:28,920 Speaker 3: Had a chance, and you took it away from him 746 00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:33,680 Speaker 3: with running a non play because your quarterback is you know, 747 00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:35,480 Speaker 3: he's wise beyond it. 748 00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:37,840 Speaker 2: You know he's just been there and done that. 749 00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:40,320 Speaker 3: It's probably I don't even know, but it's probably the 750 00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:42,360 Speaker 3: tenth time in his career that he's drawn a team 751 00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:43,960 Speaker 3: off side in that kind of situation. 752 00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:48,800 Speaker 6: Yeah, such a good point. And that's that's the kind 753 00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:52,640 Speaker 6: of thing he brings. And again, you know, the confidence 754 00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:57,760 Speaker 6: not only in the in the huddle, but the confidence again, Matt, 755 00:32:57,760 --> 00:32:59,880 Speaker 6: He's going to get you in the right place. The 756 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:03,800 Speaker 6: playbook starts to open up. We start to see, you 757 00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:07,080 Speaker 6: know why Arthur Smith is a highly regarded offensive coordinator, 758 00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:10,200 Speaker 6: why Mike Tomlin is a highly regarded head coach. Again, 759 00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:13,120 Speaker 6: like when I say, like one player can have an 760 00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:16,120 Speaker 6: effect on many different things, I think he does have. 761 00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:16,960 Speaker 5: That kind of fast. 762 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:20,080 Speaker 6: Again, I can't speak for anybody, but I mean, do 763 00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:22,280 Speaker 6: you go for it? Do you call that a fake 764 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:24,760 Speaker 6: punt on your own fifteen yard line? If you don't 765 00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:29,040 Speaker 6: have confidence in offense or defense and everything about your team, 766 00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:31,600 Speaker 6: do you just on a Wednesday shut that down and 767 00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:34,040 Speaker 6: say we're not doing that no way we can do that. 768 00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:36,680 Speaker 6: And if it fails and survive a victory, no way 769 00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:39,560 Speaker 6: can we go for it. You know, again going back 770 00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:41,240 Speaker 6: to that fourth down, no way can we go for 771 00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:43,400 Speaker 6: it there, because if it doesn't work out and they 772 00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:45,760 Speaker 6: kick a field goal, we're down nine with six minutes 773 00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:48,120 Speaker 6: left in one time out. We don't have the offensive 774 00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:50,080 Speaker 6: capability to come. 775 00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:50,520 Speaker 5: Back from that. 776 00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:53,720 Speaker 6: You know, there's only so much time on the clock, 777 00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:56,600 Speaker 6: and you haven't proven you can score a touchdown. 778 00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:58,320 Speaker 5: What you can do is kick three field goals and 779 00:33:58,400 --> 00:33:59,000 Speaker 5: six minutes. 780 00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:03,600 Speaker 6: I think all these things and it's not just Russell Wilson, obviously, 781 00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:06,880 Speaker 6: it's other assets in the team, other factors, other really 782 00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:07,640 Speaker 6: good players that. 783 00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:10,640 Speaker 5: You have on your team that allow you to do that. 784 00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:13,920 Speaker 6: But but he is, you know, he's the key that 785 00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:15,839 Speaker 6: fits in the door that helps you open up some 786 00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:18,240 Speaker 6: things that lead to success. 787 00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:21,000 Speaker 4: So I was really impressed with the defensive game plan. 788 00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:24,239 Speaker 4: I mean, they had two weeks to prepare, change some 789 00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:27,640 Speaker 4: things up. You know, Roberts was out there early in Nickel. 790 00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:32,120 Speaker 4: They blitzed a higher percentage than ever. From what I've seen, 791 00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:34,719 Speaker 4: it looks like they varied their coverage more than they 792 00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:38,840 Speaker 4: did before and frankly, they kept Jalen Daniels from killing 793 00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:41,640 Speaker 4: them with his legs. And that's just not as easy 794 00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:43,399 Speaker 4: as the sounds, you know, just to draw it up. 795 00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:48,839 Speaker 6: No, no, I agree, I think that, you know, And 796 00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:52,840 Speaker 6: and again there were times where the Steelers pass defense 797 00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:55,480 Speaker 6: I thought, especially in the middle of the field, was exploited. 798 00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:57,839 Speaker 6: But again, the other guys you're trying to make adjustments too. 799 00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:02,239 Speaker 6: You can't, you know, there's no way you can have 800 00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:08,400 Speaker 6: you know, enough enough fingers to plug the you know, 801 00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:09,239 Speaker 6: the water and the dike. 802 00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:11,440 Speaker 2: You just can't stop everything. You just can't. 803 00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:13,600 Speaker 4: Everybody wants everybody would run that defense. 804 00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:19,200 Speaker 5: That's exactly right, the thirteen man defense. That's who do that. 805 00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:22,160 Speaker 6: So, you know, I just I agree, man, I think 806 00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:27,439 Speaker 6: it was a look, they they minimized Washington's running game. Really, 807 00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:29,600 Speaker 6: they minimized their offense in a lot of ways. And 808 00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:32,280 Speaker 6: there were times, look, in the second half, the Commanders 809 00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:36,240 Speaker 6: had excellent field position on several occasions, and the Steelers, 810 00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:38,120 Speaker 6: you know, out of that, outside of that opening drive 811 00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:40,920 Speaker 6: in which they marched it down the field, the Steilers 812 00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:44,279 Speaker 6: did a great job with really poor field position and 813 00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:46,720 Speaker 6: the defense. You know, they gave up a touchdown after 814 00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:49,040 Speaker 6: that fake punt, So, uh. 815 00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:52,440 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that I think the defense did a really. 816 00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:54,640 Speaker 6: Nice job, was a really good game plan, you know, 817 00:35:55,719 --> 00:36:00,400 Speaker 6: seeing Patrick Queen playing sideline the sideline, you know, I 818 00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:03,400 Speaker 6: think that we're beginning to see and we have, I 819 00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:04,279 Speaker 6: think for several weeks. 820 00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:07,359 Speaker 5: I think his game has just improved. 821 00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:11,560 Speaker 6: Every single week, playing faster, getting used to guys around. 822 00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:16,640 Speaker 6: I just think again, and then look, you know, I 823 00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:18,439 Speaker 6: would I want to throw this out there too. The 824 00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:22,000 Speaker 6: acquisitions by Omar Khan, I mean, could the timing be better? 825 00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:24,640 Speaker 6: You get a guy like Preston Smith who comes up 826 00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:26,719 Speaker 6: with a big play in the game, but now Heismith 827 00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:30,520 Speaker 6: could be out for a little while, and so here. 828 00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:32,600 Speaker 5: Comes a guy who's got sixty eight. 829 00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:35,640 Speaker 6: And a half sacks in the NFL, and he's your 830 00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:38,160 Speaker 6: you know, along with her big coming back, your next 831 00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:38,600 Speaker 6: guy up. 832 00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:40,160 Speaker 5: How many teams can say that? 833 00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:44,719 Speaker 6: So and then Mike Williams is that, you know, you know, 834 00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:48,080 Speaker 6: welcome to Pittsburgh on your first catch for a touchdown. So, 835 00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:50,520 Speaker 6: you know, I think there's a lot of things to 836 00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:54,080 Speaker 6: like about this team, from the way they're preparing for 837 00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:58,560 Speaker 6: opponents to just the personnel that they have. You know, 838 00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:01,360 Speaker 6: and I mentioned Queen with the others around him and 839 00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:02,840 Speaker 6: others around guys in the offense. 840 00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:06,800 Speaker 5: Again, it's it has. 841 00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:09,160 Speaker 6: A different feel to me, guys than it has maybe 842 00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:12,160 Speaker 6: the last few years when you're figured, you know, wondering 843 00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:14,200 Speaker 6: how you can win enough one score game to try 844 00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:15,600 Speaker 6: to squeeze into the playoffs. 845 00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:18,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree, Rob, We're gonna let you go. We 846 00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:21,279 Speaker 3: appreciate you coming on and well enjoy this win. You 847 00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:25,080 Speaker 3: get your first big Steelers Ravens matchup next week. Looking 848 00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:28,480 Speaker 3: forward to that one. I'm sure, yes, I. 849 00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:30,160 Speaker 5: Am looking forward to that one as well. Thanks, guys, 850 00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:31,520 Speaker 5: I appreciate it. Bet. 851 00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:34,200 Speaker 3: It was Rob King, Steeler's play by play announcer, and 852 00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:37,439 Speaker 3: well seven to two with Rob King at the helm. 853 00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:41,840 Speaker 3: There you go, There you go. Anyways, he is Matt Williamson. 854 00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:44,000 Speaker 3: I am Dale Lolly. You're listening to the Drive here 855 00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:46,759 Speaker 3: on the Steelers Audio Network. Matt and I will be 856 00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:52,840 Speaker 3: back with more right after this. 857 00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:56,520 Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on 858 00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:58,719 Speaker 1: your twenty four to seven Home of the Black and 859 00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:01,480 Speaker 1: Gold cast in r Steelers Nation Radio. 860 00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:06,800 Speaker 2: And we are back. I'm Dale LOLLI. 861 00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:09,360 Speaker 3: He is the Matt Williamson and this is the Drive 862 00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:11,640 Speaker 3: on the Steelers Audio Network, And of course you can 863 00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:14,399 Speaker 3: hear us every Monday through Friday from four to six 864 00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:17,600 Speaker 3: pm right here on the drive. Except you won't hear 865 00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:19,880 Speaker 3: us next Thursday because there's a game. 866 00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:22,239 Speaker 4: A right right, right right, So yeah, that'll work back 867 00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:22,879 Speaker 4: at you on Friday. 868 00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:23,799 Speaker 2: We'll be right back at it. 869 00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:25,879 Speaker 4: So a couple of those this month where we haven't 870 00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:28,080 Speaker 4: had shows because of Monday night. 871 00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:30,000 Speaker 2: Games a Monday night or a Thursday night or so. 872 00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:34,640 Speaker 3: Absolutely, but now looking at the standards, you can also 873 00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:36,920 Speaker 3: watch us on YouTube and you can download the Steelers 874 00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:40,360 Speaker 3: please do, yes, the Steelers app app. 875 00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:41,799 Speaker 2: Couldn't find the word. 876 00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:43,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, there's always good stuff on there. 877 00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:46,480 Speaker 3: Absolutely any thought, all kinds of videos, ten thoughts of 878 00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:47,600 Speaker 3: download right to your phone. 879 00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:47,840 Speaker 5: Ye. 880 00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:51,080 Speaker 3: Looking at the AFC now, the Kansas City Chiefs are 881 00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:55,640 Speaker 3: now nine to oh seven of their victories have been 882 00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:59,279 Speaker 3: like are less than well, oh yeah, seven of their 883 00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:01,000 Speaker 3: nine wins less than a touchdown. 884 00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:02,480 Speaker 4: They that doesn't surprise me at all. 885 00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:05,960 Speaker 2: I mean they're Barnwell tells us. 886 00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:08,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, if you live on that edge that long, now 887 00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:10,400 Speaker 3: you have a great coach and a great quarterback. 888 00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:11,879 Speaker 2: Right, we're going to lose some of those. 889 00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:14,040 Speaker 4: You're gonna lose some of those, there's no question. But 890 00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:16,799 Speaker 4: we we were in the Steelers camp that there's a reason. 891 00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:21,600 Speaker 3: More than they lose obvious, they've already got seven of them. 892 00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:23,400 Speaker 3: They're not going to lose their next seven games by 893 00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:24,200 Speaker 3: less than a touchdown. 894 00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:26,280 Speaker 4: I don't think they're gonna block a lot of last minute, 895 00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:29,480 Speaker 4: last second field goals to win it, but they are. 896 00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:31,320 Speaker 4: Things are going their way, to say the least. I 897 00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:33,120 Speaker 4: still think they're a really good football team. 898 00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:35,479 Speaker 2: They're good football team. They're not a great football team. 899 00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:37,480 Speaker 4: I don't think there's any great ones. Yeah, to be 900 00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:40,280 Speaker 4: honest with even Detroit. I mean they all have warts. 901 00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:43,600 Speaker 4: They had some pass protection issues, and Benito and those 902 00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:45,640 Speaker 4: guys were getting after Mahomes. I think I have sacked 903 00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:47,600 Speaker 4: four or five under a lot. 904 00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:49,440 Speaker 3: We talked about that in our df when we put 905 00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:52,440 Speaker 3: our DFS line out because the Broncos were the cheapest defense. 906 00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:54,560 Speaker 3: I'm like, they're gonna get some sacks, yeah, yeah, and 907 00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:57,360 Speaker 3: Mahomes will throw the ball to the other team. 908 00:39:57,440 --> 00:39:57,680 Speaker 5: Yeah. 909 00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:00,160 Speaker 4: It's They're an interesting team right now. The Chiefs, I mean, 910 00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:02,719 Speaker 4: they couldn't run the ball very well, but boy, like 911 00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:05,160 Speaker 4: their success rate is just so high. You know, every 912 00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:06,680 Speaker 4: play they get just enough, you know. 913 00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:11,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, right now they are top the AFC standings. Buffalo 914 00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:13,920 Speaker 3: is in second right now because they're eight and two. 915 00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:15,480 Speaker 3: They got a game in hand against the Steelers. The 916 00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:18,319 Speaker 3: Steelers are right there at seven and two, they would 917 00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:20,080 Speaker 3: be the three seeds of the playoffs started today. 918 00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:23,000 Speaker 4: Bills handled their business in Indie. Yeah. 919 00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:25,919 Speaker 3: Yeah, Houston's the four seed, and I thought Houston played 920 00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:26,520 Speaker 3: well last night. 921 00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:28,080 Speaker 4: I think they're better now than I thought they were 922 00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:28,680 Speaker 4: two days ago. 923 00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:32,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, Baltimore is the five seed. That's what's kind of 924 00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:36,080 Speaker 3: at stake this weekend coming up. Then you get the 925 00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:38,560 Speaker 3: Chargers at six and three and the Broncos at five 926 00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:39,080 Speaker 3: and five. 927 00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:41,600 Speaker 2: The Colts and Bengal. 928 00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:43,239 Speaker 4: A little more faith in the Broncos now than I did, 929 00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:45,720 Speaker 4: yeah two days ago. You know, is that seven seed 930 00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:46,479 Speaker 4: or six seed? 931 00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:49,040 Speaker 3: Or you know, the Colts and Bengals are both four 932 00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:51,200 Speaker 3: and six, and then you've got the Jets and Patriots 933 00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:52,240 Speaker 3: both at three and seven. 934 00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:55,320 Speaker 2: Everybody else is completely out of it. What if Miami wins, 935 00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:57,320 Speaker 2: they'd be three and six. 936 00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:59,239 Speaker 4: I know, I mean, can we at least talk about 937 00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:02,200 Speaker 4: them if they win, I suppose, but I mean. 938 00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:05,920 Speaker 3: They get a long, long, long way to drag themselves 939 00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:06,560 Speaker 3: back into that. 940 00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:11,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, if you look at the NFC, you get quick. 941 00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:13,680 Speaker 4: I don't have any faith in the Colts. No, I 942 00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:16,840 Speaker 4: know they're you know, no, just missed or whatever. I 943 00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:20,720 Speaker 4: could still still see since he stringing some wins together 944 00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:25,680 Speaker 4: at least, but the rest jetterdine. Yeah. 945 00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:29,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, Detroit is eight and one in the NFC. You 946 00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:31,799 Speaker 3: got Philadelphia now at seven and two. 947 00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:32,879 Speaker 4: They're playing really well too. 948 00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:35,680 Speaker 2: You got Atlanta at six and four. You've got Arizona 949 00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:36,640 Speaker 2: at six and four. 950 00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:38,600 Speaker 4: Turning to buy into Arizona a little bit. 951 00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:41,719 Speaker 3: Then you get the Vikings at seven and two in 952 00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:44,960 Speaker 3: the five spot. You've got the Commanders at seven and 953 00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:47,680 Speaker 3: three in the sixth spot. So right now Philadelphia is 954 00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:51,120 Speaker 3: a half game ahead of Washington in the standing. The 955 00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:54,120 Speaker 3: same situation coming up, they play each other, so somebody's 956 00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:56,239 Speaker 3: gonna get a lost, somebody's gonna So the Commanders could 957 00:41:56,239 --> 00:42:00,200 Speaker 3: pull back into the two seed like Steelers washing. 958 00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:01,840 Speaker 4: And it was great, but the next two games for 959 00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:03,920 Speaker 4: those their next game for those teams is more important. 960 00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:06,319 Speaker 3: Yeah, the Packers are the seven seed right now at 961 00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:09,879 Speaker 3: six and three. Then you got San Francisco at five 962 00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:14,399 Speaker 3: and four. The Rams are four and four. They play Yeah. 963 00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:15,160 Speaker 5: Uh. 964 00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:17,160 Speaker 3: Then you got Chicago at four and five, Seattle at 965 00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:19,000 Speaker 3: four and five, Tampa Bay at four and six. 966 00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:20,040 Speaker 4: I'm out on Chicago. 967 00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:22,000 Speaker 5: Yeah. 968 00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:25,480 Speaker 4: Could Seattle save them? There's a lot of good teams 969 00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:27,200 Speaker 4: ahead of them. Yeah, that's the problem. 970 00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:29,080 Speaker 3: They're owing two in the division, one and four in 971 00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:31,800 Speaker 3: a conference. That's the problem. They have the same problem 972 00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:35,600 Speaker 3: that Cincinnati has. Cincinnati's two and four in the conference. 973 00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:38,000 Speaker 4: Like Seattle has a better chance of winning their division 974 00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:38,799 Speaker 4: at least. 975 00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:38,839 Speaker 5: But. 976 00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:43,080 Speaker 3: They're ow and two in the division right now. It's 977 00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:44,280 Speaker 3: not trending in the right direction. 978 00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:47,720 Speaker 4: Probably my fourth team in the West. Yeah, they're in trouble. 979 00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:53,439 Speaker 3: So that's kind of the situation right now. We've really 980 00:42:53,520 --> 00:43:02,240 Speaker 3: seen some separation. You could almost say there's maybe there's 981 00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:05,640 Speaker 3: like seventeen teams. There's like seventeen teams or eighteen teams 982 00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:07,000 Speaker 3: for fourteen spots. 983 00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:12,160 Speaker 4: I would say, legitimately, if you're never down to AFC NFC, 984 00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:15,640 Speaker 4: I really only think there's two spots available for the AFC, 985 00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:18,320 Speaker 4: and you take five of those seventeen out of the equation. 986 00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:22,400 Speaker 4: I mean, I think all the division winners and Baltimore. 987 00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:24,919 Speaker 3: Yeah, the Chargers at this point, they're pretty darn clubs. 988 00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:26,200 Speaker 3: They're in pretty good shape. 989 00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:27,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean they have a quarterback, they have an 990 00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:31,040 Speaker 4: easy schedule, all the tie breakers and stuff worked their 991 00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:31,880 Speaker 4: favor from whatever. 992 00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:33,520 Speaker 2: They're strength to victory is still to ninety eight. 993 00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:33,759 Speaker 4: I know. 994 00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:37,520 Speaker 2: But they but they play all the beat up the 995 00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:38,880 Speaker 2: bad they play all the bad teams. 996 00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:41,799 Speaker 4: Yeah, they play all the fourth place schedule. They were 997 00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:42,560 Speaker 4: fourth place, right. 998 00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:45,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, they were Buffalo strength of victories three thirty eight. 999 00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:47,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's pretty surprising. 1000 00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:50,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean they lost their two losses are Houston and. 1001 00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:55,880 Speaker 4: Baltimore two good teams, all right. Yeah, So I'm not 1002 00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:59,640 Speaker 4: ready to pencil in the Charger or maybe pencil them 1003 00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:02,840 Speaker 4: in rate of chiseling in Stone quite yet. I'm chiseling 1004 00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:04,000 Speaker 4: in the Steelers and Ravens. 1005 00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:05,760 Speaker 2: Steelers and Ravens will be in the playoffs. 1006 00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:08,000 Speaker 4: Yeah. No one's catching Houston in the South too. That 1007 00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:11,960 Speaker 4: division is terrible all of a sudden, and I think 1008 00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:13,680 Speaker 4: that the Chiefs are in Yeah, you know. 1009 00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:17,000 Speaker 3: So do we think that will there be a ten 1010 00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:20,759 Speaker 3: win team in the AFC? That doesn't make it? No, 1011 00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:23,160 Speaker 3: I don't think so either no, I think if you 1012 00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:24,239 Speaker 3: get to ten, you're going to be in. 1013 00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:26,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, because like I don't know, since he can get 1014 00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:30,759 Speaker 4: to ten or Colts, I mean I see a lot 1015 00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:31,799 Speaker 4: of them. Mean they're not very good. 1016 00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:34,840 Speaker 3: And the thing about it this year, even if you 1017 00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:37,759 Speaker 3: get in as a wild card, I don't know that 1018 00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:40,320 Speaker 3: I would fear going anywhere on the road. 1019 00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:44,919 Speaker 4: Not that it's impossible to overcome. Like the seventh seed 1020 00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:48,080 Speaker 4: might not be good. Maybe it's Denver, right, but Denver 1021 00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:50,359 Speaker 4: can just hung with the Chiefs, right, I mean, if 1022 00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:52,080 Speaker 4: you can play defense and not turn it over and 1023 00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:55,200 Speaker 4: you're well coached, could you give Buffalo a game and. 1024 00:44:57,440 --> 00:44:58,960 Speaker 2: Is the wrong way and you win the game. 1025 00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:01,640 Speaker 4: Come to Pittsburgh and Baltimore and give them a game. 1026 00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:04,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, That's the thing to me that stands out. If 1027 00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:04,600 Speaker 2: you look at the. 1028 00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:09,120 Speaker 3: You look at the Chargers, you look at the Broncos, 1029 00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:14,279 Speaker 3: the same formula. Yeah they they and even throw the 1030 00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:16,960 Speaker 3: steel like the Steeler. If I'm looking at good defenses 1031 00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:22,839 Speaker 3: in the AFC, Kansas City's got a good defense, Buffalo's an. 1032 00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:25,080 Speaker 4: Average, Yeah they they haven't been tested a lot. 1033 00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:28,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, the Steelers have a good defense. Houston has a 1034 00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:31,520 Speaker 3: good defense. Yeah, the Ravens don't. 1035 00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:33,920 Speaker 4: Nice thing about Houston is they're getting Nico and Will 1036 00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:36,319 Speaker 4: Anderson back. Yeah, they could have used them last night. 1037 00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:38,440 Speaker 3: They definitely could have used them last night. But the 1038 00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:41,120 Speaker 3: Ravens don't have a good defense. The Chargers do, the 1039 00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:46,200 Speaker 3: Broncos do, Indianapolis does not, the Bengals do not. 1040 00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:50,560 Speaker 4: Herbert's awesome and he's way better than Pickett and duck 1041 00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:53,239 Speaker 4: in those guys, but the Chargers and Broncos kind of 1042 00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:55,920 Speaker 4: have to play that formula. Yeah, you know where they 1043 00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:57,520 Speaker 4: just don't have They don't have a lot of weapons, 1044 00:45:57,520 --> 00:45:59,440 Speaker 4: they don't have their year away from that. Yeff. 1045 00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:02,120 Speaker 2: You know, like they could really use it. George Pickens, Yeah. 1046 00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:04,319 Speaker 4: Exactly, that'll be their first round. Picknicks a star, by 1047 00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:06,120 Speaker 4: the way, he's getting better and better every second. 1048 00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:09,239 Speaker 3: Anybody who questioned that guy, Yeah, like just look at 1049 00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:12,440 Speaker 3: look at the difference in numbers between when Fields was 1050 00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:15,520 Speaker 3: in there and I'm not ripping justin fields from that day. 1051 00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:18,840 Speaker 3: It's it's a thirty yard difference, and it's it's the 1052 00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:21,520 Speaker 3: catch numbers are the same, but the depth of target 1053 00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:22,960 Speaker 3: and the touchdowns are. 1054 00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:28,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, a much different defending fields. But Pickens had a 1055 00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:32,680 Speaker 4: remarkable number of things that didn't count before Wilson showed it. 1056 00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:34,280 Speaker 2: Right, which would have showed up in those numbers. 1057 00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:37,279 Speaker 4: Exactly. He's been a stars, he's been great. What I'm 1058 00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:40,520 Speaker 4: saying is Wilson didn't make Pickens right. You know, Pickens 1059 00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:41,000 Speaker 4: has done this. 1060 00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:42,759 Speaker 2: This is what he's been who he is. 1061 00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:43,080 Speaker 5: Yeah. 1062 00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:46,200 Speaker 3: But I mean, if you're looking at it from from 1063 00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:56,239 Speaker 3: complete team standpoint, the most complete teams are Kansas City, Pittsburgh, Houston, Buffalo, Buffalo's. Yeah, 1064 00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:58,800 Speaker 3: Buffalo's They're not terrible weakness, They're not terrible. 1065 00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:01,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, right. I would say it's an above average defense, 1066 00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:04,000 Speaker 4: but it's not one of the best ones. 1067 00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:07,280 Speaker 2: But Baltimore is kind of kind of the outlier right now. 1068 00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:10,680 Speaker 4: Yes, because it doesn't matter that you have a great 1069 00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:13,160 Speaker 4: run defense because the pass defense is so just it's 1070 00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:15,880 Speaker 4: so easy to throw. Yeah. Yeah. I mean the problem 1071 00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:17,160 Speaker 4: is I think they have the best offense. 1072 00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:19,120 Speaker 2: That's the that's the rub. 1073 00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:21,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, right, So teams have and so I don't know 1074 00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:24,080 Speaker 3: because when they played Tampa Bay, Tampa Bay ran the 1075 00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:25,160 Speaker 3: ball on them effectively. 1076 00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:25,480 Speaker 5: They did. 1077 00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:27,960 Speaker 2: I'm not sure they were able to keep it, they 1078 00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:29,000 Speaker 2: were able to keep it close. 1079 00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:31,920 Speaker 4: I don't think it's Casey Hampton. No, I don't you 1080 00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:32,319 Speaker 4: know what I mean. 1081 00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:34,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think because they play his modern NFL, they 1082 00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:37,920 Speaker 3: put so much pressure on you to score because their 1083 00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:40,279 Speaker 3: offense has been so good that you get away from 1084 00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:40,879 Speaker 3: the running game. 1085 00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:44,160 Speaker 4: Yes, now it is a great run defense, but I 1086 00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:46,239 Speaker 4: don't know that it's noticeably better than the Chargers or 1087 00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:50,080 Speaker 4: Steelers or Chargers run defense was impressive. Yeah, they were good. 1088 00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:52,239 Speaker 4: I think They're defense in general is quite good. Yeah, 1089 00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:53,360 Speaker 4: much better and expected. 1090 00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:55,920 Speaker 3: Anyways, that's where the AFC and the NFC stand right now, 1091 00:47:56,840 --> 00:47:59,520 Speaker 3: let's get through a break. He is, that's Matt Williamson. 1092 00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:01,920 Speaker 3: I am Dale, Lolly. This is the drive on the 1093 00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:04,040 Speaker 3: Steelers Audio Network, and that's going to do it for 1094 00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:06,120 Speaker 3: our number one. Matt and I will be back with 1095 00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:07,719 Speaker 3: our number two right after this