1 00:00:07,266 --> 00:00:09,706 Speaker 1: The Season with Peter Schrager is a production of the 2 00:00:09,786 --> 00:00:24,706 Speaker 1: NFL in partnership with iHeartRadio. What's Up, Everybody, Welcome to 3 00:00:24,706 --> 00:00:29,306 Speaker 1: another episode of the Season with Peter Scheger. I am 4 00:00:29,306 --> 00:00:32,506 Speaker 1: Peter Schrager. I am joined by my producer and friend 5 00:00:32,626 --> 00:00:38,226 Speaker 1: Aaron wang Kaufman, and also Jason English from the iHeartMedia team. 6 00:00:38,266 --> 00:00:43,306 Speaker 2: What forty eight hours for New York Football? I got 7 00:00:43,306 --> 00:00:45,586 Speaker 2: to start in New York as we go to the 8 00:00:45,626 --> 00:00:48,666 Speaker 2: Sunday Night experience to the Monday night experience and do 9 00:00:48,786 --> 00:00:52,506 Speaker 2: a quick snippet on just the total polar opposites of 10 00:00:52,586 --> 00:00:57,666 Speaker 2: how you can feel after a loss Jets Sunday Night, Aaron, 11 00:00:58,666 --> 00:01:02,226 Speaker 2: They're down seventeen to nothing. They start with this ridiculous 12 00:01:02,266 --> 00:01:04,626 Speaker 2: safety and then they get a field goal of seventeen 13 00:01:04,666 --> 00:01:06,386 Speaker 2: to five, and then all of a sudden it starts 14 00:01:06,466 --> 00:01:10,666 Speaker 2: clicking and Zach Wilson begins out playing Mahomes. I joked 15 00:01:10,706 --> 00:01:13,986 Speaker 2: on on Monday mornings Good Morning Football that I thought, 16 00:01:14,066 --> 00:01:15,786 Speaker 2: you know, did Mahomes. 17 00:01:15,306 --> 00:01:18,026 Speaker 1: Go out the night before? Like, was Mahomes the one 18 00:01:18,066 --> 00:01:20,266 Speaker 1: out with Taylor Swift till three in the morning at 19 00:01:20,346 --> 00:01:22,906 Speaker 1: zero bond? Because all of a sudden, Mahomes is throwing 20 00:01:22,986 --> 00:01:25,306 Speaker 1: ducks and he's getting intercepted, and if mostly picks that 21 00:01:25,346 --> 00:01:27,466 Speaker 1: one off doesn't drop it, who knows what else can happen. 22 00:01:28,546 --> 00:01:32,866 Speaker 1: And Zach Wilson starts looking like not only a competent quarterback, 23 00:01:32,986 --> 00:01:36,266 Speaker 1: a good quarterback. The first drive in the third quarter 24 00:01:36,306 --> 00:01:39,546 Speaker 1: of that Jets Chiefs game, Zack Wilson gets the ball 25 00:01:39,746 --> 00:01:43,266 Speaker 1: and takes it right down the field. Therews a couple beautiful, 26 00:01:43,586 --> 00:01:46,666 Speaker 1: beautiful passes, a beautiful touch up pass to Almazard, and 27 00:01:46,706 --> 00:01:48,866 Speaker 1: then on the two point conversion, looks like Brett Favre 28 00:01:48,906 --> 00:01:50,346 Speaker 1: running around with his head cut off and gets the 29 00:01:50,346 --> 00:01:52,466 Speaker 1: two point coversion games everything he can to get in there. 30 00:01:53,306 --> 00:01:56,226 Speaker 1: Yes there was the fumble, and yes they lost, but 31 00:01:56,306 --> 00:01:59,666 Speaker 1: after the game, Mahomes pulls in Zach Wilson is like, 32 00:01:59,706 --> 00:02:01,826 Speaker 1: you got it, Like it was like the coolest moment 33 00:02:01,906 --> 00:02:05,026 Speaker 1: if you're Zach Wilson, and if you put yourself in 34 00:02:05,106 --> 00:02:08,506 Speaker 1: Zach Wilson's use for just a second. For the last 35 00:02:08,546 --> 00:02:11,026 Speaker 1: two years, all you read about, all you see is 36 00:02:11,026 --> 00:02:15,706 Speaker 1: that you suck, You're awful, you're a bust, you don't 37 00:02:15,746 --> 00:02:19,546 Speaker 1: have it. The season's over, You're a punching bag, and 38 00:02:19,866 --> 00:02:22,626 Speaker 1: I'm as guilty of this as anyone in the media. 39 00:02:22,826 --> 00:02:25,586 Speaker 1: Like you just you take something that's it's almost like 40 00:02:25,666 --> 00:02:28,186 Speaker 1: this like rotting carcass and then like you feel the 41 00:02:28,266 --> 00:02:30,466 Speaker 1: need to like kick it one more time, and that's 42 00:02:30,506 --> 00:02:32,626 Speaker 1: what we do in the media, and that's what it is. 43 00:02:32,666 --> 00:02:35,066 Speaker 1: But it was based on the fact that he couldn't 44 00:02:35,426 --> 00:02:37,546 Speaker 1: play well and he couldn't do it well. Then suddenly 45 00:02:37,626 --> 00:02:41,066 Speaker 1: you have this performance on Sunday night and it's a loss, 46 00:02:41,106 --> 00:02:42,786 Speaker 1: and the Jets are one in three and the season 47 00:02:42,866 --> 00:02:45,946 Speaker 1: is likely not going anywhere. But you wake up Monday 48 00:02:45,946 --> 00:02:48,506 Speaker 1: morning as a jetspan and you feel good. You know, 49 00:02:48,546 --> 00:02:50,546 Speaker 1: we've had Hanka's area on the time on the show 50 00:02:50,546 --> 00:02:53,826 Speaker 1: countless times, and Hank tells you, like, you know, you 51 00:02:53,906 --> 00:02:56,826 Speaker 1: feel like you just you don't deserve nice things. Well, yes, 52 00:02:56,866 --> 00:03:00,546 Speaker 1: they lost, but you gotta feel nice things. When Zach 53 00:03:00,586 --> 00:03:03,586 Speaker 1: Wilson has this moment of hope, this glimmer of positivity 54 00:03:03,586 --> 00:03:05,626 Speaker 1: and if there isn't that controversial holding call and so 55 00:03:05,706 --> 00:03:08,026 Speaker 1: it's Gardner who knows, maybe Zach Wilson has an opportunity 56 00:03:08,626 --> 00:03:11,826 Speaker 1: to go seventy yards and they win that game and 57 00:03:11,866 --> 00:03:15,306 Speaker 1: it's even better, but at the very least Zach Wilson 58 00:03:15,306 --> 00:03:17,186 Speaker 1: doesn't have another good game in his career. At least 59 00:03:17,226 --> 00:03:19,706 Speaker 1: we saw that this is what the Jets saw in 60 00:03:19,786 --> 00:03:22,386 Speaker 1: him and what they saw in practice, and there's some 61 00:03:23,266 --> 00:03:28,786 Speaker 1: chants of positivity from Zach Wilson. Meanwhile, less than twenty 62 00:03:28,826 --> 00:03:31,906 Speaker 1: four hours later, the Giants game starts, and they've got 63 00:03:31,906 --> 00:03:36,066 Speaker 1: a quarterback who makes forty million dollars a year, who 64 00:03:36,266 --> 00:03:39,426 Speaker 1: goes out there and throws one of the most inexplicable 65 00:03:39,426 --> 00:03:41,666 Speaker 1: pick sixes to Devin Weatherspoon to put the game away. 66 00:03:41,706 --> 00:03:45,666 Speaker 1: Also was sacked eleven times behind an offensive line that yes, 67 00:03:45,786 --> 00:03:47,866 Speaker 1: is down there left tackle, but has plenty of talent 68 00:03:47,946 --> 00:03:50,106 Speaker 1: that they have brought in in the draft and free agency. 69 00:03:50,746 --> 00:03:53,146 Speaker 1: I don't know where Darren Waller is in this offense. 70 00:03:53,186 --> 00:03:57,426 Speaker 1: I don't know where Paris Campbell has been. You know, 71 00:03:57,466 --> 00:04:00,586 Speaker 1: Wandale Robinson's wide open deep. Daniel Jones doesn't see him. 72 00:04:00,986 --> 00:04:03,106 Speaker 1: Sterling Shepherd makes good money. I don't see him on 73 00:04:03,146 --> 00:04:06,066 Speaker 1: the field. I don't know what Darius Slayton's been up to. 74 00:04:06,106 --> 00:04:10,986 Speaker 1: The Giants, big ticket quarterback, first round pick they doubled 75 00:04:10,986 --> 00:04:14,626 Speaker 1: down on, and now in hindsight, I'm looking at it 76 00:04:14,666 --> 00:04:17,186 Speaker 1: and it's like the Giants didn't weren't dying to pay 77 00:04:17,266 --> 00:04:20,546 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones. They did not pick up his fit year option. 78 00:04:21,106 --> 00:04:24,346 Speaker 1: He then has this incredible season where they win all 79 00:04:24,386 --> 00:04:26,626 Speaker 1: those games by one scorer less, the coaches Coach of 80 00:04:26,626 --> 00:04:28,946 Speaker 1: the Year, and yet they weren't rushing to pay him. 81 00:04:28,986 --> 00:04:31,306 Speaker 1: It went to the very bitter end. He fired his 82 00:04:31,426 --> 00:04:34,306 Speaker 1: agents with a week left in the negotiating process. Daniel 83 00:04:34,346 --> 00:04:37,346 Speaker 1: Jones was represented by CAA his entire career. He fires CAAA, 84 00:04:37,946 --> 00:04:41,346 Speaker 1: hires athletes first. They take it to the absolute wire 85 00:04:41,506 --> 00:04:44,306 Speaker 1: and like in the final minutes before free agency starts, 86 00:04:45,346 --> 00:04:51,346 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones signs this crazy not crazy crazy is relatively speaking, 87 00:04:51,346 --> 00:04:54,506 Speaker 1: but a big, big contract to be the Giants quarterback. 88 00:04:55,026 --> 00:04:56,946 Speaker 1: And now if you look at it, all you know 89 00:04:57,066 --> 00:04:59,666 Speaker 1: in the rear view, and it's eight months later, it's like, 90 00:05:01,386 --> 00:05:04,266 Speaker 1: what was the alternatives? Like they did? Could they have 91 00:05:04,346 --> 00:05:05,746 Speaker 1: rolled the days? Do they end up with Will Levis 92 00:05:05,746 --> 00:05:07,986 Speaker 1: as their quarterback? Do they say let's just go with 93 00:05:08,066 --> 00:05:10,386 Speaker 1: Tyrod this year? There weren't many alternatives, but they did 94 00:05:10,466 --> 00:05:11,906 Speaker 1: pay him that big money. Now they're on the hook 95 00:05:11,946 --> 00:05:14,466 Speaker 1: not only for this year, but definitely for next year. 96 00:05:15,066 --> 00:05:18,506 Speaker 1: And those two teams are both one and three. The 97 00:05:18,586 --> 00:05:22,226 Speaker 1: Giants loan victory over a Cardinals team that had a 98 00:05:22,266 --> 00:05:25,626 Speaker 1: miracle comeback. The Jets loan victory was Week one and 99 00:05:25,666 --> 00:05:28,706 Speaker 1: what was one of the most wild finishes in NFL 100 00:05:29,746 --> 00:05:32,666 Speaker 1: season if you look at it now, they somehow beat 101 00:05:32,706 --> 00:05:35,346 Speaker 1: the Bills that look like they're a locomotive and it's 102 00:05:35,466 --> 00:05:39,306 Speaker 1: two one in three teams the biggest media market in Aaron. 103 00:05:39,426 --> 00:05:41,946 Speaker 1: I feel so much better about the Jets right now 104 00:05:42,026 --> 00:05:44,946 Speaker 1: than I do the New York Giants, as a Buffalo 105 00:05:45,026 --> 00:05:48,146 Speaker 1: Bills fan who also quote unquote claims is a New 106 00:05:48,226 --> 00:05:49,906 Speaker 1: York team, you know, I'm talking about the city when 107 00:05:49,906 --> 00:05:52,706 Speaker 1: I talk about New York team from afar. When you 108 00:05:52,706 --> 00:05:54,906 Speaker 1: look at the Jets and the Giants, what's your feel? 109 00:05:55,466 --> 00:05:58,786 Speaker 3: So, I mean, going back to Zach Wilson, it did 110 00:05:58,866 --> 00:06:01,946 Speaker 3: kind of feel like in the past twelve months he's 111 00:06:02,066 --> 00:06:05,226 Speaker 3: lost the job three times because he was the starter, 112 00:06:05,306 --> 00:06:07,146 Speaker 3: and then he lost it, and then Rogers came in, 113 00:06:07,226 --> 00:06:10,266 Speaker 3: he lost it again, and then he Rogers gets hurt, 114 00:06:10,306 --> 00:06:13,626 Speaker 3: and then as soon as that game's over, everyone's just like, 115 00:06:13,786 --> 00:06:16,426 Speaker 3: who can the Jets get Can they get Flacco? Can 116 00:06:16,426 --> 00:06:18,866 Speaker 3: they It's like it's he just is losing it again 117 00:06:18,906 --> 00:06:21,546 Speaker 3: and then to suddenly have this game. Yeah, you're right, 118 00:06:21,626 --> 00:06:23,906 Speaker 3: like he's not going to be the news this week, 119 00:06:23,946 --> 00:06:27,706 Speaker 3: which is great for him. And as opposed to Jones, 120 00:06:27,746 --> 00:06:31,786 Speaker 3: who I don't know. I mean like he didn't, he 121 00:06:31,786 --> 00:06:34,226 Speaker 3: didn't do himself any favors, but that line, I mean 122 00:06:34,266 --> 00:06:37,546 Speaker 3: he was he would. Yeah, you can't blame that. 123 00:06:37,586 --> 00:06:39,666 Speaker 1: But I pushed back on that, and I know this 124 00:06:39,786 --> 00:06:41,106 Speaker 1: is not fair, and I sound like I got something 125 00:06:41,146 --> 00:06:43,866 Speaker 1: personal against Daniel Jones. I don't. I was his biggest 126 00:06:43,906 --> 00:06:46,586 Speaker 1: cheerleader last year when he was proving the same doubters 127 00:06:46,586 --> 00:06:48,226 Speaker 1: that brave Zach you know he was. He did it, 128 00:06:48,346 --> 00:06:50,106 Speaker 1: he won, they went to playoffs. They beat a Minnesota 129 00:06:50,106 --> 00:06:52,106 Speaker 1: team on the road in the very hostile environment, and 130 00:06:52,106 --> 00:06:57,786 Speaker 1: he played great. I am watching on Sunday on my 131 00:06:57,866 --> 00:07:01,706 Speaker 1: little phone on the red Zone YouTube, which has been fantastic, 132 00:07:01,866 --> 00:07:06,746 Speaker 1: if I can. The Steelers defense, which suffocated everybody the 133 00:07:06,786 --> 00:07:10,626 Speaker 1: last few weeks and was absolutely dominant the previous week. 134 00:07:10,906 --> 00:07:15,346 Speaker 1: In a Sunday night game against the Raiders, I'm watching CJ. 135 00:07:15,506 --> 00:07:18,666 Speaker 1: Stroud behind an offensive line that doesn't have Howard, that 136 00:07:18,706 --> 00:07:22,626 Speaker 1: doesn't have Tunzel, that is down four starters, and CJ 137 00:07:22,706 --> 00:07:24,826 Speaker 1: Stroud looks like Dan Marino throwing the ball to Nico 138 00:07:24,906 --> 00:07:27,706 Speaker 1: Collins in Tank Dell and I'm like, all right, I 139 00:07:27,746 --> 00:07:29,506 Speaker 1: know he's a number two overall pick and you expect 140 00:07:29,506 --> 00:07:31,306 Speaker 1: that someone to be like, don't tell me about the 141 00:07:31,306 --> 00:07:34,426 Speaker 1: offensive line, Like figure this out. The Giants had eleven 142 00:07:34,546 --> 00:07:36,426 Speaker 1: days to prepare for this game. They got blown out 143 00:07:36,426 --> 00:07:38,466 Speaker 1: by the Niners on the road. Fine, you know whatever, 144 00:07:38,506 --> 00:07:41,746 Speaker 1: that's okay, No Saquon no Andrew Tomas. Eleven days to 145 00:07:41,786 --> 00:07:44,946 Speaker 1: prepare for the Seattle Seahawks, who, by the way, Andy 146 00:07:45,026 --> 00:07:47,906 Speaker 1: Dalton sliced up last week. I mean Andy Dalton walked 147 00:07:47,946 --> 00:07:50,226 Speaker 1: in there with Carolina winless team and put up a 148 00:07:50,226 --> 00:07:53,906 Speaker 1: ton of yards and looked fine against Seattle. Suddenly the 149 00:07:53,946 --> 00:07:57,146 Speaker 1: Seattle defenses of Steel Curtain or the Legion of Boom, 150 00:07:57,226 --> 00:08:00,106 Speaker 1: and with you know, eleven days to prepare for that 151 00:08:00,146 --> 00:08:03,266 Speaker 1: Seattle defense, the Giants could not do anything on offense. 152 00:08:04,706 --> 00:08:06,666 Speaker 1: I'm sorry if this sounds very New York folk and 153 00:08:06,706 --> 00:08:08,866 Speaker 1: your listener of the season and you're like, guys, there's 154 00:08:08,906 --> 00:08:11,546 Speaker 1: more teams. It's just two one in three teams, two 155 00:08:11,626 --> 00:08:14,906 Speaker 1: very different feels. Can I go through story time for 156 00:08:14,906 --> 00:08:17,666 Speaker 1: a little bit on what my Sunday was like, yeah, 157 00:08:17,786 --> 00:08:20,866 Speaker 1: let's go, all right if heelsen this podcast. You know, 158 00:08:20,906 --> 00:08:23,746 Speaker 1: I travel quite a bit for the NFL during the 159 00:08:23,786 --> 00:08:26,466 Speaker 1: season and the season with Peter Schreger, but it's sometimes 160 00:08:26,866 --> 00:08:29,266 Speaker 1: the season of Peter Schreger. And that's because this is 161 00:08:29,306 --> 00:08:31,986 Speaker 1: my podcast and we can do what we want. iHeart 162 00:08:32,386 --> 00:08:35,226 Speaker 1: in the NFL said, tell the stories that we don't know. Well, 163 00:08:35,586 --> 00:08:38,066 Speaker 1: I'll give you a story. I had a really cool 164 00:08:38,306 --> 00:08:40,106 Speaker 1: Sunday and this is one of those pinch me moments 165 00:08:40,106 --> 00:08:41,826 Speaker 1: where I'm like, I'm actually paid to do this. I 166 00:08:41,866 --> 00:08:47,346 Speaker 1: am a very lucky guy. Sunday I usually travel from 167 00:08:47,946 --> 00:08:50,346 Speaker 1: on a Saturday morning from New York to Los Angeles 168 00:08:50,386 --> 00:08:53,266 Speaker 1: and do the Fox NFL kickoff show in studio. I 169 00:08:53,306 --> 00:08:56,666 Speaker 1: got a special exemption this weekend because the Eagles, the 170 00:08:56,746 --> 00:09:03,186 Speaker 1: defending NFC champions, were undefeated. They only have two home 171 00:09:03,906 --> 00:09:07,506 Speaker 1: one o'clock games this entire season. Is that not nuts? 172 00:09:08,426 --> 00:09:11,066 Speaker 1: Eagles fans only get to two to one o'clock games 173 00:09:11,106 --> 00:09:14,986 Speaker 1: out of all their home games, six of them are 174 00:09:15,026 --> 00:09:20,906 Speaker 1: either four o'clock Thursday night, Sunday night, or Monday night. 175 00:09:21,426 --> 00:09:24,106 Speaker 1: So with that in mind, I reached out to the 176 00:09:24,146 --> 00:09:26,626 Speaker 1: Fox NFL folks and said, hey, this could be a 177 00:09:26,666 --> 00:09:28,386 Speaker 1: cool opportunity. I'm never going to get a chance to 178 00:09:28,386 --> 00:09:30,826 Speaker 1: do Eagles this year from Philly. I can take a 179 00:09:30,866 --> 00:09:33,346 Speaker 1: train that can drive down whatever. Let me get the 180 00:09:33,386 --> 00:09:35,826 Speaker 1: one opportunity to interview the head coach before the game 181 00:09:36,106 --> 00:09:37,626 Speaker 1: where we can do it on the pregame show. Now, 182 00:09:37,706 --> 00:09:40,146 Speaker 1: of course the Eagles have to approve that. Nick Sirianni 183 00:09:40,186 --> 00:09:42,346 Speaker 1: has to say, sure, I don't mind seconds before kickoff 184 00:09:42,346 --> 00:09:45,266 Speaker 1: talking to you and doing three questions. Fortunately enough, the 185 00:09:45,266 --> 00:09:47,466 Speaker 1: producers at Fox, the executives at Fox who are great, 186 00:09:47,466 --> 00:09:50,986 Speaker 1: We're like, that's perfect because we're doing Commanders Eagles talk. 187 00:09:51,026 --> 00:09:53,386 Speaker 1: Why don't we use that as our lift off point. 188 00:09:53,386 --> 00:09:54,906 Speaker 1: You'll be there, you'll get a feel for it. You 189 00:09:54,946 --> 00:09:58,346 Speaker 1: can do that game. So I go to Philly early 190 00:09:58,706 --> 00:10:00,826 Speaker 1: Sunday and I'm there in the bowels and I got 191 00:10:00,826 --> 00:10:03,306 Speaker 1: to experience game day in Philly, which was awesome. This 192 00:10:03,426 --> 00:10:07,826 Speaker 1: was an amazing atmosphere, and Nick Sirianni was cool enough 193 00:10:07,826 --> 00:10:10,546 Speaker 1: to do an interview. I talked about what they've got 194 00:10:10,586 --> 00:10:13,306 Speaker 1: going on. I talked about Philly's fan base and how 195 00:10:13,306 --> 00:10:15,946 Speaker 1: they've been rallying around this team. But I also talked 196 00:10:15,946 --> 00:10:18,586 Speaker 1: about with him the fact that the Commanders beat the 197 00:10:18,626 --> 00:10:21,386 Speaker 1: Eagles last year and it was Taylor Heinicke, but it 198 00:10:21,426 --> 00:10:24,866 Speaker 1: was the only regular season game that Jalen Hurts lost. 199 00:10:24,906 --> 00:10:28,066 Speaker 1: And Sirianni was awesome in the interview, and he was 200 00:10:28,386 --> 00:10:31,226 Speaker 1: really honest. He's like, we do not overlook anybody, but 201 00:10:31,506 --> 00:10:35,026 Speaker 1: Washington is a divisional opponent and they have given us 202 00:10:35,506 --> 00:10:37,586 Speaker 1: some really good fights the last few years. We will 203 00:10:37,586 --> 00:10:40,386 Speaker 1: not be overlooking this, sure enough. I do the interview. 204 00:10:40,386 --> 00:10:42,906 Speaker 1: It's great. I get to roam the field, and here 205 00:10:42,906 --> 00:10:44,866 Speaker 1: are some of the people I spoke to off camera 206 00:10:45,426 --> 00:10:48,186 Speaker 1: for extended amounts of time. I got to talk to 207 00:10:48,306 --> 00:10:50,226 Speaker 1: Howie Roseman, the GM of the Eagles, and we had 208 00:10:50,226 --> 00:10:54,266 Speaker 1: a very candid conversation about the selections of not only 209 00:10:54,346 --> 00:10:57,466 Speaker 1: Jalen Carter, but Nolan Smith and Kyrie Ringo, who were 210 00:10:57,466 --> 00:10:59,706 Speaker 1: from Georgia, what that connection was like, and how he 211 00:10:59,746 --> 00:11:04,546 Speaker 1: made about those picks. Very interesting talk from how I 212 00:11:04,586 --> 00:11:06,946 Speaker 1: then had a good chat with their defense of line 213 00:11:06,946 --> 00:11:11,266 Speaker 1: coach Jeremiah Washburn, who has been there and was in 214 00:11:11,306 --> 00:11:14,266 Speaker 1: Detroit before this. Jeremiah, I don't know if he would 215 00:11:14,306 --> 00:11:15,706 Speaker 1: be comfortable with me saying it. So here we are. 216 00:11:15,746 --> 00:11:18,186 Speaker 1: I'm going to say it anyway. I said, Uh, what 217 00:11:18,866 --> 00:11:22,186 Speaker 1: do you see in Jalen Carter? He's like, this dude 218 00:11:23,106 --> 00:11:26,106 Speaker 1: is an absolute bohemo. This guy is the real deal. 219 00:11:26,146 --> 00:11:28,426 Speaker 1: And he said Fletcher Cox said it best. And I 220 00:11:28,426 --> 00:11:30,066 Speaker 1: don't know if he said it publicly or if he 221 00:11:30,106 --> 00:11:32,266 Speaker 1: said it just to Jeremiah said anything he goes, Fletcher 222 00:11:32,346 --> 00:11:34,706 Speaker 1: Cox said it best. I'm like, what if Fletch have 223 00:11:34,786 --> 00:11:37,866 Speaker 1: to say? He says. Fletcher Cock says that Jalen Carter 224 00:11:37,986 --> 00:11:41,586 Speaker 1: wakes up and he gets out of bed and he 225 00:11:41,626 --> 00:11:47,906 Speaker 1: looks to what ass what? I was like, Ah, if 226 00:11:47,906 --> 00:11:50,586 Speaker 1: you watch him in warmups like I remember, and now 227 00:11:50,786 --> 00:11:53,026 Speaker 1: obviously he's in the headlines for the reasons. I remember 228 00:11:53,106 --> 00:11:55,586 Speaker 1: Chandler Jones during warm ups when he was with the 229 00:11:55,626 --> 00:11:57,266 Speaker 1: Patriots Ones and I had to take a video and 230 00:11:57,266 --> 00:11:59,746 Speaker 1: I put it on Twitter. I'm like, this guy's just 231 00:11:59,746 --> 00:12:02,986 Speaker 1: just just it's a different speed and like it's and 232 00:12:03,106 --> 00:12:06,026 Speaker 1: Aaron Donald. I get to watch him pregame who And 233 00:12:06,066 --> 00:12:09,306 Speaker 1: this is me as a sportswriter slash podcaster trying to 234 00:12:09,346 --> 00:12:12,586 Speaker 1: imitate move. If you're watching on video, I'm doing that. 235 00:12:12,666 --> 00:12:14,506 Speaker 1: And if you're listening to the audio, the who is 236 00:12:14,546 --> 00:12:18,626 Speaker 1: me like doing Jalen Carter was destroying tackling dummies for 237 00:12:18,706 --> 00:12:20,146 Speaker 1: the end. I'm like, oh, so, like, I get that 238 00:12:20,146 --> 00:12:21,826 Speaker 1: experience and you're on the game. I get that on 239 00:12:22,066 --> 00:12:24,466 Speaker 1: the field. Then I went to the Washington side and 240 00:12:24,506 --> 00:12:26,426 Speaker 1: I talked to Jason right there president for a bit 241 00:12:26,426 --> 00:12:28,306 Speaker 1: and just about the new blood there, and it was 242 00:12:28,346 --> 00:12:31,426 Speaker 1: really cool. I love being at games. I love being 243 00:12:31,426 --> 00:12:34,066 Speaker 1: at prega and then a game breaks out and it's 244 00:12:34,106 --> 00:12:37,786 Speaker 1: absolutely awesome. The Washington Commanders were not scared of the 245 00:12:37,826 --> 00:12:41,346 Speaker 1: Philadelphia Eagles. They had not a flicker of hesitation when 246 00:12:41,346 --> 00:12:43,146 Speaker 1: they went in there. They scored on their opening drive, 247 00:12:43,226 --> 00:12:45,266 Speaker 1: they scored on their second drive, like they came right 248 00:12:45,266 --> 00:12:49,106 Speaker 1: down the field, and they tested Philly. Philly comes out 249 00:12:49,106 --> 00:12:51,106 Speaker 1: with the win. They're four and oh. They don't apologize 250 00:12:51,106 --> 00:12:53,746 Speaker 1: for anything. But to get a field for both teams 251 00:12:53,866 --> 00:12:57,266 Speaker 1: was huge for me. But I wasn't done, Aaron, No, 252 00:12:57,386 --> 00:13:01,106 Speaker 1: I wasn't done. I reached out to the Jets earlier 253 00:13:01,106 --> 00:13:02,946 Speaker 1: in the week and I said, I'm not in Los 254 00:13:02,946 --> 00:13:05,786 Speaker 1: Angeles doing the pregame show. I'm actually in Philadelphia. That 255 00:13:05,826 --> 00:13:09,546 Speaker 1: game should around three thirty four o'clock. If I get 256 00:13:09,546 --> 00:13:13,026 Speaker 1: on my horse, I can make it to Jets Chiefs, 257 00:13:13,026 --> 00:13:15,466 Speaker 1: which felt like more than just a football game. It 258 00:13:15,466 --> 00:13:18,746 Speaker 1: felt like a pop culture moment because of obvious reasons 259 00:13:18,786 --> 00:13:21,266 Speaker 1: of who was in the building. I was there to 260 00:13:21,266 --> 00:13:24,346 Speaker 1: get a feel for the defending champions, the Chiefs, but 261 00:13:24,466 --> 00:13:26,706 Speaker 1: also to see what the Jets had left in the tank. 262 00:13:26,866 --> 00:13:30,266 Speaker 1: And if I happened to end up with Taylor Swift 263 00:13:30,306 --> 00:13:33,826 Speaker 1: and Ryan Reynolds and Hugh Jackman and you name who, 264 00:13:33,866 --> 00:13:36,866 Speaker 1: and if Blake Lively wants to celebrate with me, that's fine. 265 00:13:36,946 --> 00:13:38,826 Speaker 1: I would have been Okay, I wouldn't. I don't want 266 00:13:38,826 --> 00:13:40,426 Speaker 1: to be the story. But if I happened to be 267 00:13:40,466 --> 00:13:41,266 Speaker 1: the story, then. 268 00:13:41,146 --> 00:13:41,546 Speaker 4: So be it. 269 00:13:41,626 --> 00:13:43,546 Speaker 1: Right. Well, I didn't see any of those people, but 270 00:13:44,426 --> 00:13:46,586 Speaker 1: I got on my horse. I get to the game. Pregame, 271 00:13:47,026 --> 00:13:49,146 Speaker 1: Jets are cool enough to credential me. I have a 272 00:13:49,146 --> 00:13:52,466 Speaker 1: press box seat, Like, I'm excited, I'll be there pregame. 273 00:13:52,506 --> 00:13:55,746 Speaker 1: I walk on the field and I'm just walking around 274 00:13:55,906 --> 00:13:57,706 Speaker 1: and you know, one of our guests and our friends 275 00:13:57,706 --> 00:13:59,666 Speaker 1: in my Brooklyn homie, Paul Rudd is there with his 276 00:13:59,826 --> 00:14:02,906 Speaker 1: entire family, and Paul's like, come over here. I'm like, eh, 277 00:14:02,546 --> 00:14:04,906 Speaker 1: I don't wanna. All right, he's over there on the 278 00:14:04,986 --> 00:14:07,906 Speaker 1: Chiefs sideline there, go over there, say hi to him 279 00:14:08,026 --> 00:14:09,866 Speaker 1: and Brett Veach, the GM and the Chiefs is there. 280 00:14:10,226 --> 00:14:13,866 Speaker 1: We're talking for twenty minutes, Paul, his son, Jack, Me, 281 00:14:14,506 --> 00:14:17,786 Speaker 1: Brett Veach, We're all talking about all the different players 282 00:14:17,786 --> 00:14:19,866 Speaker 1: on the Chiefs, not Mahomes and Kelsey, but like what 283 00:14:19,906 --> 00:14:21,986 Speaker 1: Trent McDuffie has done this year to make him one 284 00:14:22,026 --> 00:14:24,946 Speaker 1: of an elite corners, What George carl Laftis has done, 285 00:14:24,986 --> 00:14:27,586 Speaker 1: and what kind of student car Laftis is. Carlaftis is 286 00:14:27,586 --> 00:14:29,666 Speaker 1: one of these guys that Veach was like, he's like 287 00:14:29,706 --> 00:14:31,906 Speaker 1: the teacher's pet. He is in there every morning talking 288 00:14:31,946 --> 00:14:34,626 Speaker 1: to our defensive line coach. He's got film, he's trying 289 00:14:34,666 --> 00:14:37,346 Speaker 1: to do the work. The message in Kansas City is 290 00:14:37,386 --> 00:14:40,106 Speaker 1: it can't just be Mahomes and Kelsey. These other guys 291 00:14:40,106 --> 00:14:41,946 Speaker 1: have to step up. And if you watch that game, 292 00:14:42,066 --> 00:14:45,986 Speaker 1: it was Pachaco, it was Noah Gray, it was Willie Gay, 293 00:14:46,066 --> 00:14:49,386 Speaker 1: it was younger players stepping up because Mahomes did not 294 00:14:49,506 --> 00:14:51,786 Speaker 1: seem to have the Mahomes game until the very end 295 00:14:51,826 --> 00:14:55,626 Speaker 1: where he pulls it out. But as I'm walking, I 296 00:14:55,666 --> 00:14:58,666 Speaker 1: get a text from someone on the Jets, not a player, 297 00:14:58,946 --> 00:15:02,146 Speaker 1: not a coach, someone else, an executive type person, and 298 00:15:02,226 --> 00:15:03,666 Speaker 1: they reach out. I don't want to give their name 299 00:15:03,706 --> 00:15:05,866 Speaker 1: because if you give their name, you're revealing your sources 300 00:15:05,866 --> 00:15:08,306 Speaker 1: in this one. Hey, I see you over on the 301 00:15:08,346 --> 00:15:11,146 Speaker 1: chief sideline. Come say hello real quick. So I make 302 00:15:11,186 --> 00:15:13,946 Speaker 1: my way over to the Jets area and I'm on 303 00:15:13,986 --> 00:15:15,906 Speaker 1: the sidelines, but I'm not trying to come too close 304 00:15:15,946 --> 00:15:18,826 Speaker 1: to the team because it's before the game, and you know, 305 00:15:18,906 --> 00:15:22,066 Speaker 1: I don't have all access in this situation. And as 306 00:15:22,066 --> 00:15:25,786 Speaker 1: I'm doing that, I get a little hey, see who's here? 307 00:15:26,226 --> 00:15:28,266 Speaker 1: And I looked to my right and he's got a 308 00:15:28,266 --> 00:15:31,546 Speaker 1: little smirk on his face. What's up, buddy? Aaron Rodgers 309 00:15:32,506 --> 00:15:36,546 Speaker 1: Rogers on the crutches on sidelines. We talked briefly. Didn't 310 00:15:36,546 --> 00:15:38,626 Speaker 1: get into the timetable, if you will, but I will 311 00:15:38,666 --> 00:15:44,386 Speaker 1: say this, good spirits moving on those crutches. I was 312 00:15:44,426 --> 00:15:46,746 Speaker 1: told this would be four weeks or five weeks before 313 00:15:46,746 --> 00:15:49,266 Speaker 1: he can be off that scooter. He's on crutches, there's 314 00:15:49,306 --> 00:15:54,466 Speaker 1: no boot, He's moving and I'm watching Rogers during pre game. Yeah, 315 00:15:54,506 --> 00:15:57,666 Speaker 1: I know everyone's out there and Sauces giving up pep 316 00:15:57,786 --> 00:16:00,066 Speaker 1: talk and you got Breize Hall doing the drills, and 317 00:16:00,106 --> 00:16:01,906 Speaker 1: I'm not doing the same thing I was doing with 318 00:16:01,986 --> 00:16:04,306 Speaker 1: Jalen Carter. While I'm watching the Jets, I'm just focused 319 00:16:04,346 --> 00:16:06,146 Speaker 1: on their quarterback who will not see the field till 320 00:16:06,146 --> 00:16:09,946 Speaker 1: the least January, if he even does, or December, whatever 321 00:16:10,026 --> 00:16:13,306 Speaker 1: the timetable might be. And I'm watching Rogers and he's 322 00:16:13,346 --> 00:16:17,866 Speaker 1: not in everybody's face, but he is very active participant 323 00:16:18,146 --> 00:16:21,066 Speaker 1: in the conversations on the sidelines with some of these guys. 324 00:16:21,066 --> 00:16:23,786 Speaker 1: And I think the Aaron Rodgers effect can be real 325 00:16:23,906 --> 00:16:27,066 Speaker 1: because I saw it firsthand how these players. He's not 326 00:16:27,146 --> 00:16:29,146 Speaker 1: in their face, he's not demanding spotlight. But like he 327 00:16:29,186 --> 00:16:31,746 Speaker 1: spoke to the team on Saturday night, he was there 328 00:16:31,786 --> 00:16:35,786 Speaker 1: on Sunday, he was in Woody Johnson's box. All good. 329 00:16:36,506 --> 00:16:39,626 Speaker 1: I think that there's no coincidence that Zach Wilson played 330 00:16:39,626 --> 00:16:41,986 Speaker 1: the game of his life and that Rogers at least 331 00:16:41,986 --> 00:16:43,386 Speaker 1: has been a part of the game planning, and it's 332 00:16:43,426 --> 00:16:46,946 Speaker 1: been a part of the team on Saturday. But here's 333 00:16:46,986 --> 00:16:50,746 Speaker 1: where the night takes the Peter Schrager twist, and I 334 00:16:50,866 --> 00:16:54,626 Speaker 1: just end up wherever. Okay, So amongst the people I 335 00:16:54,666 --> 00:16:57,466 Speaker 1: spoke to pregame, it's not just Paul Roden Bretviach like 336 00:16:57,546 --> 00:17:01,306 Speaker 1: I saw. I talked with Clark Hunt for a long time. 337 00:17:01,346 --> 00:17:03,786 Speaker 1: And Clark Hunt is obviously a guest on the show 338 00:17:03,866 --> 00:17:06,866 Speaker 1: during Super Bowl week, but he's the chairman and CEO 339 00:17:07,066 --> 00:17:11,706 Speaker 1: president of the Kansas City Chiefs. Mark Donovan, who is 340 00:17:11,746 --> 00:17:15,986 Speaker 1: their CEO in maybe different titles with Clark and Mark, 341 00:17:16,266 --> 00:17:18,186 Speaker 1: talked to him for a while getting a feel for, 342 00:17:18,386 --> 00:17:21,826 Speaker 1: you know, the Chiefs organization as a whole. As I'm 343 00:17:21,826 --> 00:17:23,986 Speaker 1: getting that grasp there, I'm like, Okay, I'm gonna go 344 00:17:24,066 --> 00:17:26,106 Speaker 1: up to the press box, but I do the Rogers thing. 345 00:17:26,146 --> 00:17:28,506 Speaker 1: I talked to him for a bit. As I'm stepping out, 346 00:17:28,586 --> 00:17:31,026 Speaker 1: I you know, get a tap on the shoulder from 347 00:17:31,026 --> 00:17:33,626 Speaker 1: someone else in the Jets organization says, why don't you 348 00:17:33,706 --> 00:17:37,826 Speaker 1: come by for a second and just say hello, you know, 349 00:17:37,906 --> 00:17:39,906 Speaker 1: to some of the people at the highest level of 350 00:17:39,906 --> 00:17:41,826 Speaker 1: the ownership group, if you can, if during the game, 351 00:17:41,866 --> 00:17:43,666 Speaker 1: if you want just I come in, just say hi. Whatever. 352 00:17:44,186 --> 00:17:50,186 Speaker 1: So Christopher Johnson is, you know, with Woody Johnson obviously 353 00:17:50,226 --> 00:17:52,906 Speaker 1: owners of the Jets. I was in the press box. 354 00:17:52,946 --> 00:17:55,386 Speaker 1: I'm a journalist. I've wearing that hat. But I'm like, 355 00:17:55,426 --> 00:17:57,106 Speaker 1: if I got the invite, do you say hi? Do 356 00:17:57,106 --> 00:17:59,146 Speaker 1: you not say hi? So I just pop in before 357 00:17:59,186 --> 00:18:01,786 Speaker 1: the game and I walk in just to say hello, 358 00:18:01,906 --> 00:18:03,826 Speaker 1: and I look around this room and they were on 359 00:18:03,866 --> 00:18:06,306 Speaker 1: the big deviatrios. I don't think here was the crew 360 00:18:06,346 --> 00:18:09,626 Speaker 1: that was in this suite. Everyone's talking about Ryan Reynolds 361 00:18:09,666 --> 00:18:14,506 Speaker 1: and Blake Lively and Hugh Jackman. And you know, I 362 00:18:14,586 --> 00:18:17,826 Speaker 1: respect the Jets as a business because as NBC went 363 00:18:17,866 --> 00:18:20,426 Speaker 1: to that box seventeen times, I don't think the Jets 364 00:18:20,946 --> 00:18:24,306 Speaker 1: showed Taylor Swift once on their in house jumbo tron. 365 00:18:24,346 --> 00:18:25,866 Speaker 1: And they're like, you know what, they're here to root 366 00:18:25,906 --> 00:18:29,346 Speaker 1: for the Chiefs. We're not showing them. The box that 367 00:18:29,386 --> 00:18:31,146 Speaker 1: they should have shown was the crew that I saw 368 00:18:31,186 --> 00:18:33,386 Speaker 1: watching the game together. And I'll give a quick story 369 00:18:33,386 --> 00:18:37,066 Speaker 1: that was hilarious. But I walk in, I say high sheepishly, 370 00:18:37,106 --> 00:18:39,786 Speaker 1: and I'm like whatever, I'm an invisible ghost in that room. 371 00:18:40,666 --> 00:18:44,066 Speaker 1: In that box, you want to talk about a murderer's 372 00:18:44,146 --> 00:18:46,506 Speaker 1: row of like of like guys that I would want 373 00:18:46,546 --> 00:18:51,106 Speaker 1: to have beers with. First guy, Ray freaking Romano was 374 00:18:51,146 --> 00:18:56,386 Speaker 1: in the room. Ray Romano's in the room. So Ray 375 00:18:56,466 --> 00:18:57,386 Speaker 1: Romano's in the. 376 00:18:57,386 --> 00:18:59,266 Speaker 5: Room, and I'm like, you know, do you say some 377 00:18:59,306 --> 00:19:01,146 Speaker 5: of the others like, I don't think Ray No's but 378 00:19:01,186 --> 00:19:03,226 Speaker 5: as we film, I don't think raynols No. I know 379 00:19:03,346 --> 00:19:05,906 Speaker 5: Ray doesn't know this, but as we film this podcast 380 00:19:05,986 --> 00:19:09,066 Speaker 5: right now and we record this, Aaron, you and I 381 00:19:09,106 --> 00:19:12,386 Speaker 5: are in this cool, little like green room that Sny 382 00:19:12,666 --> 00:19:14,946 Speaker 5: puts us in, which is where we film Good Morning 383 00:19:14,946 --> 00:19:18,906 Speaker 5: Football downtown in Manhattan. This room, for four years I 384 00:19:18,986 --> 00:19:22,266 Speaker 5: shared with Nate Burlison as a dressing room. Nate would 385 00:19:22,266 --> 00:19:23,986 Speaker 5: get down to his skivvies in front of me, put 386 00:19:23,986 --> 00:19:26,386 Speaker 5: on his really fancy clothes and look great. I would 387 00:19:26,426 --> 00:19:30,106 Speaker 5: throw on my hooded sweatshirt and my new balanced sneakers 388 00:19:30,146 --> 00:19:31,706 Speaker 5: and go and do the job. But Nate and I 389 00:19:31,746 --> 00:19:33,546 Speaker 5: would be in here every morning from five. 390 00:19:33,586 --> 00:19:36,146 Speaker 1: Thirty to six point fifty, I would say, And Nate 391 00:19:36,186 --> 00:19:38,546 Speaker 1: became a best friend and her brother. Great. Everyone thinks 392 00:19:38,586 --> 00:19:41,066 Speaker 1: we're breaking down all twenty two film like we're Brian 393 00:19:41,106 --> 00:19:43,626 Speaker 1: Baldinger that we did not watch football in the morning. 394 00:19:43,706 --> 00:19:46,506 Speaker 1: We get football all day. Nate and I would watch 395 00:19:46,546 --> 00:19:49,506 Speaker 1: Everybody Loves Raymond reruns on TBS. There's a TD in here, 396 00:19:50,466 --> 00:19:53,546 Speaker 1: volume up. We probably watched eight seasons, no every episode, 397 00:19:53,666 --> 00:19:55,706 Speaker 1: and it was not even a conversation. We'd watch the 398 00:19:55,746 --> 00:19:59,706 Speaker 1: commercials everything. Everybody loves Raymonds. So here's Ray Romano as 399 00:19:59,706 --> 00:20:02,346 Speaker 1: I walk in and he's in there, and I'm like, 400 00:20:02,346 --> 00:20:06,066 Speaker 1: do I say something doing not another wrinkle? Last week 401 00:20:06,066 --> 00:20:09,786 Speaker 1: I'm on my Jet Blue flight or two weeks ago 402 00:20:09,426 --> 00:20:14,106 Speaker 1: to Fox, Jet Blue is running a couple movies. There 403 00:20:14,146 --> 00:20:16,386 Speaker 1: was a movie and maybe you can google it real quick, Aaron, 404 00:20:16,466 --> 00:20:18,306 Speaker 1: because I wasn't even familiar with it. I didn't see 405 00:20:18,306 --> 00:20:19,866 Speaker 1: any promotion for it, but I think it's called like 406 00:20:19,906 --> 00:20:22,306 Speaker 1: Somewhere in Queens type in Ray Ramono. 407 00:20:22,146 --> 00:20:22,946 Speaker 3: Somewhere in Queens. 408 00:20:23,026 --> 00:20:26,186 Speaker 1: Yeah, this is a ninety minute movie that had me 409 00:20:26,306 --> 00:20:29,466 Speaker 1: laughing and crying. It was fantastic. I think Ray Ramono 410 00:20:29,586 --> 00:20:30,186 Speaker 1: produced it. 411 00:20:30,346 --> 00:20:33,426 Speaker 3: He might have his directorial debut and he's worked on 412 00:20:33,426 --> 00:20:34,106 Speaker 3: the screenplay. 413 00:20:34,266 --> 00:20:36,706 Speaker 1: This movie was great. And the story is raised a 414 00:20:36,746 --> 00:20:40,306 Speaker 1: part of an Italian family in Queens and everyone goes 415 00:20:40,346 --> 00:20:43,706 Speaker 1: into one line of work. They're in construction. Sebastian Maniscalco 416 00:20:43,826 --> 00:20:47,146 Speaker 1: plays his brother. Very quaint, small movie, and Laurie Metcalf 417 00:20:47,226 --> 00:20:49,786 Speaker 1: is fantastic as the wife. And like you're talking about 418 00:20:49,826 --> 00:20:52,186 Speaker 1: like Ray Ramono and Laurie Metcalf and Sebastian. Of course 419 00:20:52,226 --> 00:20:55,506 Speaker 1: there's laughs in this thing. But the story is his 420 00:20:55,586 --> 00:20:59,266 Speaker 1: son is a pretty good high school basketball player and 421 00:20:59,306 --> 00:21:01,786 Speaker 1: he's a quiet kid. And I told him. I was like, 422 00:21:02,106 --> 00:21:03,866 Speaker 1: you know, that's why I do go up to him. 423 00:21:03,866 --> 00:21:06,306 Speaker 1: But you know, Daniel Jones is the character in this 424 00:21:06,706 --> 00:21:09,586 Speaker 1: like quiet great athlete, doesn't say much and a girl 425 00:21:09,666 --> 00:21:12,666 Speaker 1: breaks his heart. And I'm not giving any spoilers away, 426 00:21:12,666 --> 00:21:14,346 Speaker 1: but like the girl breaks his heart and breaks his 427 00:21:14,426 --> 00:21:17,706 Speaker 1: will to want to go play college basketball, and Ray 428 00:21:17,786 --> 00:21:20,786 Speaker 1: goes above maybe where he should go. His character does 429 00:21:21,666 --> 00:21:23,746 Speaker 1: to talk to the girl to convince her to maybe 430 00:21:23,786 --> 00:21:26,386 Speaker 1: give the son and a second chance. And oh, it's 431 00:21:26,426 --> 00:21:28,906 Speaker 1: a story. It is a beautiful movie. And I just 432 00:21:28,906 --> 00:21:30,466 Speaker 1: seen it and I cried on the flight, and now 433 00:21:30,506 --> 00:21:32,226 Speaker 1: I cried to every movie on the flat. I think 434 00:21:32,226 --> 00:21:34,866 Speaker 1: I've cried to like like movies like Taken with like 435 00:21:35,266 --> 00:21:37,226 Speaker 1: Lenisan and I cry at the end on Veneer on 436 00:21:37,226 --> 00:21:40,586 Speaker 1: a plane, you just cry. Yeah, So Aaron, I'm I'm there, 437 00:21:40,626 --> 00:21:42,506 Speaker 1: and I see Ray Romano and I know it's like 438 00:21:42,586 --> 00:21:44,266 Speaker 1: he was a director, And I know this movie did 439 00:21:44,266 --> 00:21:46,546 Speaker 1: not make you know, major waves. I know it's not 440 00:21:46,586 --> 00:21:48,386 Speaker 1: Oscar nominated as of yet or whatever it is. And 441 00:21:48,386 --> 00:21:49,986 Speaker 1: I know it wasn't like a critical darling. I haven't 442 00:21:49,986 --> 00:21:52,506 Speaker 1: heard anything about it, but I saw it and it 443 00:21:52,586 --> 00:21:53,826 Speaker 1: was great. So I went up to him, and of 444 00:21:53,906 --> 00:21:55,826 Speaker 1: course everyone goes up to him and talks about everybody 445 00:21:55,906 --> 00:21:58,946 Speaker 1: loves Raymond whatever. I just said. You know, I was 446 00:21:58,986 --> 00:22:01,746 Speaker 1: on a Jet Blue flight recently and I loved somewhere 447 00:22:01,786 --> 00:22:04,506 Speaker 1: in Queens and ray who probably was approached by one 448 00:22:04,586 --> 00:22:08,906 Speaker 1: hundred people. You know, his eyes lit up, he smiled 449 00:22:09,026 --> 00:22:11,466 Speaker 1: and he was like, dude, thank you so much. He's like, 450 00:22:11,466 --> 00:22:14,386 Speaker 1: I've gotten so many comments over the last week or 451 00:22:14,386 --> 00:22:16,946 Speaker 1: two about this movie that I put my heart and 452 00:22:16,986 --> 00:22:20,546 Speaker 1: soul in. But yes, because it's on the planes, people 453 00:22:20,546 --> 00:22:22,066 Speaker 1: are watching it on the planes, and so I'm like, 454 00:22:22,106 --> 00:22:25,666 Speaker 1: is it streaming. It's streaming on Hulu and next week, 455 00:22:25,706 --> 00:22:28,026 Speaker 1: he said, and it's coming out. And he's like, gosh, 456 00:22:28,066 --> 00:22:29,626 Speaker 1: it's crazy because that movie went out in the theater. 457 00:22:29,666 --> 00:22:31,826 Speaker 1: We put everything into it. It was like my heart 458 00:22:31,826 --> 00:22:34,706 Speaker 1: and the soul and like, and now people are kind 459 00:22:34,706 --> 00:22:36,666 Speaker 1: of seeing I go, dude, if that movie came out 460 00:22:36,666 --> 00:22:39,186 Speaker 1: ten years ago, it would have gotten a major you know, 461 00:22:39,306 --> 00:22:40,626 Speaker 1: a theater, and it would have been if it was 462 00:22:40,666 --> 00:22:43,586 Speaker 1: in a traditional situation ten years ago, where people saw 463 00:22:43,706 --> 00:22:46,266 Speaker 1: romantic comedies and people watch movies other than Star Wars 464 00:22:46,346 --> 00:22:48,826 Speaker 1: and superhero movies. It would have been great. Ray was 465 00:22:48,826 --> 00:22:51,466 Speaker 1: so appreciative. I had the greatest experience meeting Ray Romano. 466 00:22:51,506 --> 00:22:53,906 Speaker 1: He was so nice, he was so great. And then 467 00:22:53,906 --> 00:22:56,106 Speaker 1: it was like game time. He was locked in, Aaron. 468 00:22:56,186 --> 00:23:01,466 Speaker 1: The other people in this box sitting off to the side. 469 00:23:01,586 --> 00:23:03,346 Speaker 1: I had it took a double take. I was like, 470 00:23:03,346 --> 00:23:08,786 Speaker 1: what Kendall Roy himself, enemy Strong was sitting in this box. 471 00:23:08,866 --> 00:23:10,546 Speaker 1: And when I tell you, maybe he just didn't want 472 00:23:10,546 --> 00:23:15,586 Speaker 1: to talk to anybody, locked the f into the game, 473 00:23:15,786 --> 00:23:20,666 Speaker 1: like wearing a Jets hat every play, watching analyzing, no 474 00:23:20,746 --> 00:23:23,586 Speaker 1: bathroom breaks, no nothing like he was in. I had 475 00:23:23,586 --> 00:23:27,666 Speaker 1: no idea. Jeremy Strong love football. He loves Jets football. 476 00:23:27,786 --> 00:23:30,946 Speaker 1: What a great celebrity fan to have the eldest son, 477 00:23:31,066 --> 00:23:34,466 Speaker 1: if you will. Gosh, he was still locked in. So 478 00:23:34,506 --> 00:23:37,306 Speaker 1: there you go. Those are two like Titans. Next one, 479 00:23:40,346 --> 00:23:43,066 Speaker 1: What is your favorite comedy show? Maybe of the last 480 00:23:43,426 --> 00:23:46,666 Speaker 1: fifteen twenty years, like when you need like just a laugh, 481 00:23:46,706 --> 00:23:47,466 Speaker 1: what's yours? Aaron? 482 00:23:49,866 --> 00:23:51,946 Speaker 3: So that came out in the last fifteen to twenty, 483 00:23:52,066 --> 00:23:53,706 Speaker 3: Like what's your show probably The Office. 484 00:23:53,786 --> 00:23:57,186 Speaker 1: Okay, great, that's perfect answer. The Office is one of 485 00:23:57,186 --> 00:24:00,746 Speaker 1: mine too. If it's on, I'll watch it, yeah, if 486 00:24:00,786 --> 00:24:03,026 Speaker 1: I need a laugh or if I'm just I will 487 00:24:03,026 --> 00:24:08,986 Speaker 1: watch Kurby Your Enthusiasm, and I will specifically watch Leon. Yeah. 488 00:24:09,106 --> 00:24:10,426 Speaker 3: Yeah. 489 00:24:10,906 --> 00:24:15,186 Speaker 1: JB. Smooth was in this box. And I am telling you, Aaron, 490 00:24:15,826 --> 00:24:19,506 Speaker 1: the JB. Smooth you see on TV is one hundred 491 00:24:19,546 --> 00:24:22,426 Speaker 1: percent to JB Smooth. I saw it in this box. 492 00:24:22,986 --> 00:24:25,786 Speaker 1: He sees me and we he's been on the show before, 493 00:24:25,906 --> 00:24:31,066 Speaker 1: and immediately it's like, okay, okay, he's here, and here's 494 00:24:31,546 --> 00:24:34,506 Speaker 1: here's here's my favorite character in maybe TV history Leon. 495 00:24:34,706 --> 00:24:36,826 Speaker 5: And he starts doing that we are not worthy, like 496 00:24:36,866 --> 00:24:37,786 Speaker 5: Wayne's world thing to me. 497 00:24:38,146 --> 00:24:43,106 Speaker 1: Stop stop stop, comes over and immediately arm around me. 498 00:24:43,266 --> 00:24:46,146 Speaker 1: We start talking and you know, the Jets are his team, 499 00:24:46,666 --> 00:24:48,786 Speaker 1: and he was talking about Bruce Hopkins. He was talking 500 00:24:48,786 --> 00:24:51,586 Speaker 1: about altoon like we go into Jets deep and he 501 00:24:51,706 --> 00:24:54,346 Speaker 1: is so great, and then all of a sudden he 502 00:24:54,386 --> 00:24:59,306 Speaker 1: goes on this incredible rant if you will slash bit 503 00:25:00,066 --> 00:25:04,666 Speaker 1: slash monologue where the I could never imitate him, Like 504 00:25:04,746 --> 00:25:07,226 Speaker 1: if I was to imitate him, all I'd be canceled 505 00:25:07,306 --> 00:25:10,426 Speaker 1: for trying to limitate him be I just it wouldn't 506 00:25:10,426 --> 00:25:15,066 Speaker 1: do him justice. His bit is that sauce is on 507 00:25:15,226 --> 00:25:20,546 Speaker 1: the field, but the gravy's in the building. And he's 508 00:25:20,546 --> 00:25:25,346 Speaker 1: pointing to himself that he JB. Smooth is the gravy. 509 00:25:26,746 --> 00:25:30,866 Speaker 6: A whole bit about sauce on the steel. Gravy is 510 00:25:30,906 --> 00:25:34,666 Speaker 6: the building and he's gravy. We talked for a while. 511 00:25:35,066 --> 00:25:38,066 Speaker 6: He wants to come on the podcast amazing, will be 512 00:25:38,146 --> 00:25:42,106 Speaker 6: a guest. Here's the part that gets a little tricky. 513 00:25:43,066 --> 00:25:45,786 Speaker 6: He's with his longtime manager. I'll say his name. His 514 00:25:45,866 --> 00:25:47,306 Speaker 6: name is Rick Dorfman. 515 00:25:47,786 --> 00:25:50,386 Speaker 1: I don't know Rick. Rick is awesome. Rick comes over, 516 00:25:50,466 --> 00:25:53,866 Speaker 1: introduces himself to me, says, JB. Would love to come 517 00:25:53,866 --> 00:25:56,466 Speaker 1: on the podcast. Would love to come on the show. Says, 518 00:25:56,546 --> 00:26:02,066 Speaker 1: let's exchange numbers. Rick presents me with a q R code. 519 00:26:02,586 --> 00:26:05,586 Speaker 1: Oh no, no, no, no, no no. This is very smart. 520 00:26:05,706 --> 00:26:06,986 Speaker 1: This is a great way to do it. He doesn't 521 00:26:06,986 --> 00:26:09,946 Speaker 1: have a business card. He says, scan this QR code. 522 00:26:10,426 --> 00:26:12,626 Speaker 1: And I scan the QR code and it's all his 523 00:26:12,746 --> 00:26:16,466 Speaker 1: contact information. I was like, that was the coolest thing ever. 524 00:26:16,906 --> 00:26:21,146 Speaker 1: Phone number, email, everything. There was an app for it. 525 00:26:21,186 --> 00:26:23,226 Speaker 1: The app, I believe was called Blink b L I 526 00:26:23,426 --> 00:26:25,626 Speaker 1: n Q. He's like, you have to get blink. It's 527 00:26:25,666 --> 00:26:27,506 Speaker 1: gonna be a game changer for you to not have 528 00:26:27,586 --> 00:26:30,426 Speaker 1: to type in numbers. It's it just QR code. You 529 00:26:30,546 --> 00:26:34,426 Speaker 1: scan it. It's great, that's what I do. JB and 530 00:26:34,506 --> 00:26:39,826 Speaker 1: I have this incredible experience together. I'm talking, laughing, hugging. 531 00:26:40,306 --> 00:26:42,586 Speaker 1: I filmed a video with him. He wanted to film 532 00:26:42,586 --> 00:26:44,986 Speaker 1: a video like we had a plat like talking about 533 00:26:45,226 --> 00:26:47,826 Speaker 1: if you want the ultimate Ying and Yang, it's probably 534 00:26:47,906 --> 00:26:50,666 Speaker 1: Larry David and jbswoth. Yeah, I think we can't talk that. 535 00:26:50,786 --> 00:26:53,066 Speaker 1: But like he and I do not look like we 536 00:26:53,106 --> 00:26:55,546 Speaker 1: would be uh, you know, regular bedfellows. We got along great. 537 00:26:55,626 --> 00:26:59,706 Speaker 1: It was incredible. I get in the car after the game, 538 00:26:59,706 --> 00:27:02,346 Speaker 1: which was fantastic. Obviously, I go back to the press box. 539 00:27:02,386 --> 00:27:04,346 Speaker 1: I watch from there that I try to beat the 540 00:27:04,386 --> 00:27:05,906 Speaker 1: traffic just a little bit, which I did so I 541 00:27:05,946 --> 00:27:08,866 Speaker 1: could do Good Morning Football. I had done two games. 542 00:27:09,306 --> 00:27:11,346 Speaker 1: I get in the car. I have been up since 543 00:27:11,946 --> 00:27:13,626 Speaker 1: four am because I got a full way to go 544 00:27:13,666 --> 00:27:15,706 Speaker 1: to Philly and then I was ending the game. I 545 00:27:15,706 --> 00:27:18,146 Speaker 1: got in the car around midnight. So that's a long day, 546 00:27:18,146 --> 00:27:21,146 Speaker 1: but like two amazing football games. I was on cloud nine. 547 00:27:21,186 --> 00:27:24,106 Speaker 1: It like reinvigorated me, like just being in two buildings, 548 00:27:24,186 --> 00:27:25,946 Speaker 1: Like I love this sport, I love all of this. 549 00:27:26,586 --> 00:27:28,786 Speaker 1: I get back in the car and I'm like, I'm 550 00:27:28,786 --> 00:27:31,386 Speaker 1: immediately gonna say great to meet you to this, Rick Drfman. 551 00:27:32,626 --> 00:27:36,826 Speaker 1: I go into my phone. It's gone. I can't find anything. 552 00:27:37,346 --> 00:27:40,586 Speaker 1: I didn't save whatever that QR code thing was. And 553 00:27:40,626 --> 00:27:43,146 Speaker 1: there is no silver lining as we record this on Tuesday, 554 00:27:43,866 --> 00:27:46,026 Speaker 1: and this is a call to action. If anyone has 555 00:27:46,146 --> 00:27:48,706 Speaker 1: Rick Dorfman's number or email, send it along to me. 556 00:27:48,866 --> 00:27:51,986 Speaker 1: I want to have JB. Smooth on the podcast next week. 557 00:27:52,466 --> 00:27:55,146 Speaker 1: He was incredible. My day was incredible. I woke up 558 00:27:55,186 --> 00:27:58,106 Speaker 1: the next morning, I'm like, I feel like I completely 559 00:27:58,506 --> 00:28:02,106 Speaker 1: ready to go and roaring to go, and I'm excited 560 00:28:02,866 --> 00:28:04,426 Speaker 1: by a lot of stuff around the NFL. 561 00:28:04,506 --> 00:28:04,746 Speaker 4: CJ. 562 00:28:04,866 --> 00:28:08,746 Speaker 1: Stroud looks amazing, Anthony Richard Loss looks amazing. Mcvay's team 563 00:28:08,786 --> 00:28:12,666 Speaker 1: is fighting despite players that you know named Aaron Donald, Pukinakua, 564 00:28:12,746 --> 00:28:15,786 Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford. And maybe that's it on the roster. There's 565 00:28:15,866 --> 00:28:19,666 Speaker 1: so much good around the league right now. Maybe there's 566 00:28:19,706 --> 00:28:23,906 Speaker 1: no better story than the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Which leads 567 00:28:23,906 --> 00:28:29,506 Speaker 1: to our guests for the week, Buccaneers GM Jason Light. 568 00:28:36,666 --> 00:28:38,986 Speaker 1: The Tampa Bay Buccaneers have had the third most win 569 00:28:39,146 --> 00:28:42,866 Speaker 1: since twenty twenty. They have had the fourth most regular 570 00:28:42,906 --> 00:28:45,906 Speaker 1: season win since twenty twenty and if you look at 571 00:28:45,946 --> 00:28:50,266 Speaker 1: their roster, they are number three on highest percentage of 572 00:28:50,506 --> 00:28:53,946 Speaker 1: home grown talent, which means they have drafted or signed 573 00:28:54,066 --> 00:28:58,626 Speaker 1: undrafted guys themselves who are now playing. The general manager 574 00:28:58,666 --> 00:29:01,426 Speaker 1: of the tam Bay Buccaneers is the architect of this 575 00:29:01,546 --> 00:29:04,066 Speaker 1: team and he is joining us on the season with 576 00:29:04,146 --> 00:29:06,746 Speaker 1: Peter Scheger. Mister Jason Light the Bucks. 577 00:29:06,746 --> 00:29:10,466 Speaker 4: How are we doing doing great? Man? Appreciate you having 578 00:29:10,506 --> 00:29:10,826 Speaker 4: me on. 579 00:29:11,746 --> 00:29:13,986 Speaker 1: I figured the only time I can get you is 580 00:29:14,066 --> 00:29:17,706 Speaker 1: during the bye week, and it certainly helps when the 581 00:29:17,746 --> 00:29:20,586 Speaker 1: team is three and one as opposed to a different record. 582 00:29:20,626 --> 00:29:22,786 Speaker 1: But you and I have known each other for many years, 583 00:29:22,826 --> 00:29:25,066 Speaker 1: and I have to say the Tom Brady stuff was great, 584 00:29:25,186 --> 00:29:27,506 Speaker 1: and of course last year again they were great. To 585 00:29:27,546 --> 00:29:29,866 Speaker 1: see this team at the top of the NFC sound 586 00:29:29,906 --> 00:29:32,266 Speaker 1: standings as we head towards the bye I don't think 587 00:29:32,306 --> 00:29:34,866 Speaker 1: a lot of people saw that, me included. How proud 588 00:29:34,866 --> 00:29:36,626 Speaker 1: are you of this team? First mouth of football? 589 00:29:36,906 --> 00:29:40,106 Speaker 4: Well well, first of all, we've got a long season 590 00:29:40,146 --> 00:29:42,226 Speaker 4: ahead of us, so I know we're not putting the 591 00:29:42,266 --> 00:29:46,426 Speaker 4: cart before the horse here. But you know, I'm very 592 00:29:46,466 --> 00:29:50,066 Speaker 4: proud of the coaching staff, the football staff, everybody here 593 00:29:50,066 --> 00:29:52,226 Speaker 4: in the building, but then the players too. But I 594 00:29:52,226 --> 00:29:54,986 Speaker 4: will say that I went on record several times in 595 00:29:55,026 --> 00:29:57,786 Speaker 4: training camp people kind of were writing us off, and 596 00:29:57,826 --> 00:30:00,146 Speaker 4: I said, I just liked the DNA of this team. 597 00:30:00,266 --> 00:30:03,066 Speaker 4: I just liked the way that it was all coming 598 00:30:03,066 --> 00:30:07,906 Speaker 4: together and the players to prove to the world that 599 00:30:08,346 --> 00:30:10,586 Speaker 4: you know that there we still have good players. We're 600 00:30:10,626 --> 00:30:13,426 Speaker 4: still a good team. And and so I'm not surprised 601 00:30:13,466 --> 00:30:15,906 Speaker 4: that you know that we started off the way we did. 602 00:30:16,146 --> 00:30:17,466 Speaker 4: You know, we have great coaches too. 603 00:30:18,386 --> 00:30:20,346 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think it's sneaky with what the Bucks 604 00:30:20,466 --> 00:30:22,426 Speaker 1: roster is. And I think a lot of people, if 605 00:30:22,466 --> 00:30:24,506 Speaker 1: you looked at it from thirty thousand feet, said, okay, 606 00:30:24,906 --> 00:30:27,866 Speaker 1: Tom Brady was dropped in, they won, they win the 607 00:30:27,906 --> 00:30:30,866 Speaker 1: next year, all right, tom Brady's moved out of the thing, 608 00:30:30,906 --> 00:30:32,346 Speaker 1: and it's like, all right, they're going to fall apart. 609 00:30:32,386 --> 00:30:36,386 Speaker 1: But I'm looking at some numbers that my research team 610 00:30:36,386 --> 00:30:40,186 Speaker 1: has helped put together. Most total snaps by a team's 611 00:30:40,306 --> 00:30:44,586 Speaker 1: own first through fifth round pick since twenty fourteen, and 612 00:30:44,626 --> 00:30:47,466 Speaker 1: it's the Bucks by a mile. And it's most total 613 00:30:47,466 --> 00:30:50,866 Speaker 1: games started by a team's own first through fifth round 614 00:30:50,866 --> 00:30:53,426 Speaker 1: pick since twenty fourteen, and it's the Bucks by a mile. 615 00:30:53,666 --> 00:30:56,266 Speaker 1: You go through these guys, whether it be Mike Evans 616 00:30:56,346 --> 00:30:59,546 Speaker 1: or Godwin or vite Veya or Devin White or Jamel Dee, 617 00:30:59,666 --> 00:31:02,666 Speaker 1: all over the guys over the years. This is homegrown talent. 618 00:31:02,706 --> 00:31:05,626 Speaker 1: There's something to that when you look at this team, 619 00:31:05,826 --> 00:31:07,906 Speaker 1: do you see this is like there's a sense of 620 00:31:07,946 --> 00:31:10,506 Speaker 1: pride that, hey, we drafted these guys and for the 621 00:31:10,506 --> 00:31:12,106 Speaker 1: most part, a lot of them are performing at a 622 00:31:12,146 --> 00:31:13,346 Speaker 1: high level and key spots. 623 00:31:13,986 --> 00:31:17,706 Speaker 4: Oh absolutely, I mean that's that's what we in personnel. 624 00:31:17,986 --> 00:31:21,866 Speaker 4: I mean we want to we all aspire to as 625 00:31:21,906 --> 00:31:25,066 Speaker 4: a GM, as a scout, as a personnel director or 626 00:31:25,106 --> 00:31:28,306 Speaker 4: what have you. You want to you want to grow your own. 627 00:31:28,626 --> 00:31:31,066 Speaker 4: You want to you want to bring them in, you 628 00:31:31,106 --> 00:31:33,626 Speaker 4: want to develop them, You want them to understand the 629 00:31:33,626 --> 00:31:37,466 Speaker 4: way that we do things as an organization. You you 630 00:31:37,506 --> 00:31:39,266 Speaker 4: want to give them, you want to reward them with 631 00:31:39,386 --> 00:31:43,226 Speaker 4: contracts and keep your own and you know that's what 632 00:31:43,266 --> 00:31:45,946 Speaker 4: we're doing. And you know we've got we've got a 633 00:31:45,986 --> 00:31:49,386 Speaker 4: great First of all, I the only thing I will 634 00:31:49,946 --> 00:31:53,386 Speaker 4: pat myself on the back for is I've hired extremely 635 00:31:53,426 --> 00:31:55,946 Speaker 4: well that's the only thing I'm going to say that 636 00:31:56,146 --> 00:31:59,546 Speaker 4: about me. That our staff has done an outstanding job. 637 00:31:59,866 --> 00:32:03,706 Speaker 4: Whether it's the scouts, the personnel directors, spy, Tech, Greenburn, Jackie, 638 00:32:03,786 --> 00:32:05,546 Speaker 4: I mean the whole I could name everybody. I'm going 639 00:32:05,586 --> 00:32:08,186 Speaker 4: to leave somebody out, but the coaching staff. 640 00:32:08,226 --> 00:32:10,586 Speaker 1: Don't forget my boy Byron down there are the best 641 00:32:10,586 --> 00:32:11,226 Speaker 1: scouts in the game. 642 00:32:11,306 --> 00:32:11,866 Speaker 4: There's no doubt. 643 00:32:11,906 --> 00:32:13,386 Speaker 1: Give Byron love Byron. 644 00:32:13,586 --> 00:32:16,706 Speaker 4: He has been here for a long time and he 645 00:32:16,866 --> 00:32:20,226 Speaker 4: is incredible, incredible, So I could go on and on. 646 00:32:20,866 --> 00:32:23,946 Speaker 4: So but anyway, and our coaching staff just having the 647 00:32:23,946 --> 00:32:27,386 Speaker 4: patience with these players. So it's it's been awesome bringing 648 00:32:28,106 --> 00:32:30,346 Speaker 4: everyone to be on the same page. 649 00:32:30,546 --> 00:32:33,226 Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's it's cool. And even look at this 650 00:32:33,306 --> 00:32:37,546 Speaker 1: team now, and Baker's the new story, and Baker people 651 00:32:37,586 --> 00:32:40,066 Speaker 1: doubted and Bakers spent time in Carolina and then was 652 00:32:40,106 --> 00:32:43,026 Speaker 1: of course with the Rams left over, and Baker looks 653 00:32:43,066 --> 00:32:45,106 Speaker 1: great and competent, and you guys go into New Orleans 654 00:32:45,146 --> 00:32:47,866 Speaker 1: and win the signing of Baker Mayfield is one story. 655 00:32:48,666 --> 00:32:50,706 Speaker 1: The other story is how well he has taken to 656 00:32:50,786 --> 00:32:52,226 Speaker 1: this team and they've taken to him. Can you go 657 00:32:52,266 --> 00:32:54,826 Speaker 1: through the Baker Mayfield experience for you guys when you 658 00:32:54,826 --> 00:32:57,506 Speaker 1: were looking after Brady hung him up, like, what's the 659 00:32:57,546 --> 00:32:58,106 Speaker 1: next step? 660 00:32:58,666 --> 00:33:03,026 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, you know Baker. Now, as it turns out, Baker, 661 00:33:03,506 --> 00:33:07,546 Speaker 4: he's a very very smart person. I knew he was smart, 662 00:33:07,546 --> 00:33:10,186 Speaker 4: you know, we did our due diligence on him coming out. 663 00:33:10,226 --> 00:33:13,826 Speaker 4: We weren't looking for a quarterback that year. But knew 664 00:33:13,826 --> 00:33:16,146 Speaker 4: that he was smart. I didn't realize just how incredibly 665 00:33:16,346 --> 00:33:20,306 Speaker 4: smart he is. And he was targeting us, I mean 666 00:33:20,346 --> 00:33:22,186 Speaker 4: maybe more than we were targeting him. 667 00:33:22,226 --> 00:33:23,346 Speaker 1: And he saw a little flirt. 668 00:33:24,266 --> 00:33:27,986 Speaker 4: He saw this as an awesome opportunity for him, you know, 669 00:33:28,106 --> 00:33:29,746 Speaker 4: And we told him from the beginning that this is 670 00:33:29,786 --> 00:33:31,106 Speaker 4: going to be a you're going to be in a 671 00:33:31,106 --> 00:33:34,506 Speaker 4: competition here because we really like Kyle Trask. And he 672 00:33:34,546 --> 00:33:37,306 Speaker 4: didn't you know, as you know, Baker, he didn't flinch. 673 00:33:37,506 --> 00:33:40,586 Speaker 4: He accepted that and you know, he just ran with it. 674 00:33:40,666 --> 00:33:43,106 Speaker 4: And it was a good competition. But we saw a 675 00:33:43,106 --> 00:33:45,906 Speaker 4: lot out of Kyle that we loved to see too. 676 00:33:45,946 --> 00:33:47,506 Speaker 4: He was doing a did a hell of a job 677 00:33:47,546 --> 00:33:53,066 Speaker 4: for us, but he is such a you know, even 678 00:33:53,106 --> 00:33:55,386 Speaker 4: as I go around town, people know what's Baker like? 679 00:33:55,506 --> 00:33:58,586 Speaker 4: Is he a good guy? It's like, I don't know 680 00:33:58,666 --> 00:34:02,226 Speaker 4: where this started that he wasn't a good guy. And 681 00:34:02,746 --> 00:34:04,386 Speaker 4: I mean, I think you can point to a few 682 00:34:04,426 --> 00:34:07,226 Speaker 4: things that maybe people got the wrong pression of him. 683 00:34:07,266 --> 00:34:10,626 Speaker 4: But he's a freaking awesome dude. He is a dude 684 00:34:11,066 --> 00:34:14,106 Speaker 4: and the players saw it right away. I mean, he's 685 00:34:14,186 --> 00:34:18,466 Speaker 4: whether he's taken the lineman to the Bahamas, you know, 686 00:34:18,786 --> 00:34:21,986 Speaker 4: during on our break, during camp, before the first you know, 687 00:34:22,026 --> 00:34:26,386 Speaker 4: after final cuts to go golf, or he's he's spotted 688 00:34:26,426 --> 00:34:28,826 Speaker 4: around town at dive bars with a different group of 689 00:34:28,946 --> 00:34:32,386 Speaker 4: position group with receivers, with Mike Evans, you know, with 690 00:34:32,426 --> 00:34:35,226 Speaker 4: a godwin with these guys. He really knows he's not 691 00:34:35,306 --> 00:34:37,826 Speaker 4: doing it's not fake. He really knows how to how 692 00:34:37,866 --> 00:34:40,586 Speaker 4: to be a dude with the team and they love. 693 00:34:40,506 --> 00:34:43,506 Speaker 1: Him and and he and he lays it out there. 694 00:34:43,506 --> 00:34:45,106 Speaker 1: You see him throwing blocks, you see the hit he 695 00:34:45,146 --> 00:34:48,146 Speaker 1: took against the Saints on Sunday, and it's like he's 696 00:34:48,186 --> 00:34:49,706 Speaker 1: gonna leave it all out in the field. What's your 697 00:34:49,706 --> 00:34:52,426 Speaker 1: favorite Baker's story between you and him interacting, because I 698 00:34:52,466 --> 00:34:55,346 Speaker 1: know coaches who've had him and are like, you know, Nick, 699 00:34:55,386 --> 00:34:57,026 Speaker 1: they had him last year for a small window and 700 00:34:57,026 --> 00:35:00,746 Speaker 1: he's like, yeah, Big Baker's hilarious too. He's funny as hell. Like, 701 00:35:00,786 --> 00:35:02,346 Speaker 1: have you had a moment where he's had a snide 702 00:35:02,346 --> 00:35:04,666 Speaker 1: commenters or cast a comment where you're like, this is 703 00:35:04,706 --> 00:35:05,666 Speaker 1: one of us. This guy's a. 704 00:35:05,586 --> 00:35:09,026 Speaker 4: Fun Yeah, a few. I probably shouldn't tell them on this, 705 00:35:12,306 --> 00:35:15,026 Speaker 4: you know what. You know, what's really interesting is so 706 00:35:15,266 --> 00:35:19,026 Speaker 4: I was born in this very small town in Nebraska, Freemont, Nebraska. 707 00:35:19,066 --> 00:35:22,146 Speaker 4: It's about twenty thousand people. It's kind of halfway between 708 00:35:22,146 --> 00:35:25,426 Speaker 4: Omahon and Lincoln. And when I was young, we moved 709 00:35:25,426 --> 00:35:27,226 Speaker 4: to Colorado. So I grew up in Colorado. But that's 710 00:35:27,266 --> 00:35:31,866 Speaker 4: where my parents both were from that area, and that's 711 00:35:31,906 --> 00:35:35,786 Speaker 4: where my grandparents, you know, that's where they settled and 712 00:35:35,866 --> 00:35:38,906 Speaker 4: all that stuff. So anyway that when we finally agreed 713 00:35:38,906 --> 00:35:42,386 Speaker 4: to terms with Baker, I texted him, Hey, congrats, we're 714 00:35:42,426 --> 00:35:45,546 Speaker 4: celebrating here. We're excited to have you. He said, yeah, 715 00:35:45,786 --> 00:35:47,946 Speaker 4: you know, my wife is from your hometown. 716 00:35:48,666 --> 00:35:50,866 Speaker 1: Get out of here's some Freemont, Nebraska. 717 00:35:50,986 --> 00:35:54,066 Speaker 4: Freemont, Nebraska. So I texted my mom and my sister. 718 00:35:54,146 --> 00:35:57,866 Speaker 4: They are like, oh yeah, the May family. Oh my god. 719 00:35:57,906 --> 00:36:00,706 Speaker 4: They founded Fremont. You know, the library is named after him. 720 00:36:00,986 --> 00:36:03,746 Speaker 4: You know, there's a you know, their names on buildings. 721 00:36:03,746 --> 00:36:07,706 Speaker 4: I mean, but she's kind of a big deal in Fremont, Nebraska. 722 00:36:07,386 --> 00:36:10,666 Speaker 4: But anyway, she turns out she's a wonderful person. She 723 00:36:11,026 --> 00:36:13,386 Speaker 4: has a suite right next to my wife's at the stadium, 724 00:36:14,106 --> 00:36:17,026 Speaker 4: and which could be an issue I guess with my 725 00:36:18,986 --> 00:36:20,946 Speaker 4: when my father in law sits in there, you know, 726 00:36:21,026 --> 00:36:24,466 Speaker 4: when things aren't going well, he tends to you. But anyway, 727 00:36:24,826 --> 00:36:26,026 Speaker 4: we already warned her about that. 728 00:36:26,146 --> 00:36:29,386 Speaker 1: But you hear him banging on the wall, don't don't know, 729 00:36:29,466 --> 00:36:32,866 Speaker 1: that's not that's not. Everything's okay, that's just my father 730 00:36:32,866 --> 00:36:33,186 Speaker 1: in law. 731 00:36:33,386 --> 00:36:35,626 Speaker 4: But it just kind of tells you the researching, the 732 00:36:35,666 --> 00:36:37,826 Speaker 4: detail he went into to know that I was born 733 00:36:37,826 --> 00:36:40,586 Speaker 4: in his wife's hometown. So that's pretty cool. 734 00:36:41,386 --> 00:36:44,506 Speaker 1: That's wild. Love this team right now, and love the 735 00:36:44,626 --> 00:36:47,266 Speaker 1: juice that you guys have as you look at the 736 00:36:47,346 --> 00:36:49,586 Speaker 1: roster up and down and you got all these guys 737 00:36:49,586 --> 00:36:53,626 Speaker 1: that you guys drafted. Todd Bowles is the head coach, 738 00:36:53,906 --> 00:36:56,586 Speaker 1: and a lot of people after last year said oh, 739 00:36:56,666 --> 00:36:58,186 Speaker 1: I don't know if he could be the coach and 740 00:36:58,266 --> 00:37:00,786 Speaker 1: after a post Brady world and yet this team for 741 00:37:00,866 --> 00:37:02,786 Speaker 1: spinning to Todd, He's never gonna have the SoundBite that 742 00:37:02,826 --> 00:37:05,386 Speaker 1: goes viral. What do you see from Todd Bowles on 743 00:37:05,426 --> 00:37:07,426 Speaker 1: a day to day basis that you guys know, he's 744 00:37:07,426 --> 00:37:08,386 Speaker 1: the man for this squad. 745 00:37:09,546 --> 00:37:15,666 Speaker 4: He's he's got incredible patience, very focused, but he's a 746 00:37:15,706 --> 00:37:20,426 Speaker 4: he's a great teacher. So it'll be once or twice 747 00:37:20,426 --> 00:37:22,466 Speaker 4: a week you go down. You know, I'll pop into 748 00:37:22,506 --> 00:37:25,146 Speaker 4: his office, you know, several times a day just to 749 00:37:25,306 --> 00:37:28,026 Speaker 4: talk about little things with sometimes just a book, but 750 00:37:29,826 --> 00:37:32,266 Speaker 4: he'll have It's not uncommon for him to have the 751 00:37:32,466 --> 00:37:36,226 Speaker 4: entire secondary sitting in his office, sprawled out couches and 752 00:37:36,826 --> 00:37:40,106 Speaker 4: having food delivered up there and him just having a 753 00:37:40,226 --> 00:37:43,866 Speaker 4: session with them, just going over tape and just talking 754 00:37:44,026 --> 00:37:44,546 Speaker 4: through things. 755 00:37:44,626 --> 00:37:46,946 Speaker 1: Saw picture this, you got, you got Windfield, you got, 756 00:37:47,066 --> 00:37:48,906 Speaker 1: you got all these guys and they come in and 757 00:37:48,906 --> 00:37:51,026 Speaker 1: they're just hanging with the coach. It's not an instructional 758 00:37:51,066 --> 00:37:53,546 Speaker 1: period where it's you're in a lecture situation. 759 00:37:53,586 --> 00:37:56,706 Speaker 4: Well it turns into that casual, It turns casual, but 760 00:37:56,786 --> 00:37:59,346 Speaker 4: it's become like a weekly routine where he just wants 761 00:37:59,386 --> 00:38:00,706 Speaker 4: to get them all on the same page. 762 00:38:00,746 --> 00:38:02,866 Speaker 1: And it's, uh, this is the head coach talking to 763 00:38:02,906 --> 00:38:03,586 Speaker 1: a position group. 764 00:38:03,826 --> 00:38:06,386 Speaker 4: I love this in his office, not in a meeting rooms. 765 00:38:06,546 --> 00:38:09,226 Speaker 4: So it's I mean, he just that's just been common 766 00:38:09,266 --> 00:38:11,986 Speaker 4: of him since for him, since he's been our been 767 00:38:12,026 --> 00:38:15,266 Speaker 4: here as the defensive coordinators as well for all positions. 768 00:38:15,346 --> 00:38:18,146 Speaker 4: You can see offensive players pop in and just he's 769 00:38:18,226 --> 00:38:21,066 Speaker 4: just a very h He's got a very soothing way 770 00:38:21,106 --> 00:38:25,146 Speaker 4: about him that that makes you been very fiery behind 771 00:38:25,186 --> 00:38:26,226 Speaker 4: the scenes as well. 772 00:38:26,426 --> 00:38:29,906 Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that Rende went into the Hall of 773 00:38:29,986 --> 00:38:32,186 Speaker 1: Fame this year, and I love that this organization with 774 00:38:32,306 --> 00:38:33,906 Speaker 1: so much a part of it. It wasn't just oh, here's 775 00:38:33,906 --> 00:38:36,386 Speaker 1: a former player, like I know from knowing Ronde and 776 00:38:36,426 --> 00:38:38,626 Speaker 1: I know you very well, like he is a frequent 777 00:38:38,706 --> 00:38:41,786 Speaker 1: visitor to the building. How much has Rende Barber played 778 00:38:41,786 --> 00:38:44,986 Speaker 1: a role and not only this team's young players and success, 779 00:38:45,066 --> 00:38:47,466 Speaker 1: but also for you and the guys in the organization 780 00:38:47,506 --> 00:38:50,106 Speaker 1: to see a former buccaneer so active and vibrant in 781 00:38:50,146 --> 00:38:51,386 Speaker 1: the team's day to day. 782 00:38:52,066 --> 00:38:55,186 Speaker 4: Yeah, first of all, Rende quickly became one of my 783 00:38:55,426 --> 00:38:58,106 Speaker 4: closer friends when I got the job here, it's going 784 00:38:58,146 --> 00:39:01,866 Speaker 4: on year ten. I just love Ronde. He's our families 785 00:39:01,866 --> 00:39:05,746 Speaker 4: are close, and jeez, you know you talk about this 786 00:39:05,786 --> 00:39:08,146 Speaker 4: summer of joy, George, this is the year of Ronde. 787 00:39:08,186 --> 00:39:11,506 Speaker 4: I mean, go on. He feels like I've been to 788 00:39:11,506 --> 00:39:14,666 Speaker 4: about a million parties for Ronde's Hall of Fame already. 789 00:39:16,026 --> 00:39:18,986 Speaker 4: But and then that's it and well deserved, well deserved. 790 00:39:18,986 --> 00:39:20,666 Speaker 4: But I was actually just texting with him a few 791 00:39:20,666 --> 00:39:22,906 Speaker 4: minutes ago before I came on here, Pat he was 792 00:39:22,946 --> 00:39:25,666 Speaker 4: talking about the what he was excited about to play 793 00:39:25,786 --> 00:39:28,746 Speaker 4: some of our players in the secondary. So he's you know, 794 00:39:28,786 --> 00:39:33,786 Speaker 4: he's always welcome. Here's such a like he never missed 795 00:39:33,826 --> 00:39:35,946 Speaker 4: a game, he never missed a practice. 796 00:39:36,146 --> 00:39:36,866 Speaker 1: It's insane. 797 00:39:37,066 --> 00:39:40,146 Speaker 4: I never missed a practice. I mean, it's it's crazy. 798 00:39:40,186 --> 00:39:43,386 Speaker 4: You never see that. He should be an inspiration to 799 00:39:43,626 --> 00:39:44,586 Speaker 4: a lot of our players. 800 00:39:45,666 --> 00:39:48,186 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'm sure they come in they see him 801 00:39:48,266 --> 00:39:50,786 Speaker 1: and he's president, and it does go a long way. 802 00:39:52,026 --> 00:39:54,106 Speaker 1: I go back to last like ten years with you. 803 00:39:54,186 --> 00:39:56,906 Speaker 1: Obviously we talk about the Jamis era, and then there 804 00:39:57,066 --> 00:39:59,426 Speaker 1: was these you know seasons where there is like hope 805 00:39:59,466 --> 00:40:01,626 Speaker 1: and then it just fell short. And then Brady comes 806 00:40:01,626 --> 00:40:04,586 Speaker 1: and you guys have this incredible ride. Have you had 807 00:40:04,586 --> 00:40:06,906 Speaker 1: a chance to do the thirty thousand foot you yet 808 00:40:06,946 --> 00:40:09,066 Speaker 1: and be able to look back with proper perspective on 809 00:40:09,186 --> 00:40:11,146 Speaker 1: what the Brady era was like in Tampa or is 810 00:40:11,186 --> 00:40:13,106 Speaker 1: it still too new or it's you're still in the 811 00:40:13,106 --> 00:40:15,066 Speaker 1: whirlwind of Okay, on to the next or do you 812 00:40:15,066 --> 00:40:18,586 Speaker 1: have a moment to like appreciate just how insane those 813 00:40:18,946 --> 00:40:21,426 Speaker 1: I guess what twenty four months, maybe even longer it 814 00:40:21,506 --> 00:40:22,706 Speaker 1: was with Tom Brady. 815 00:40:22,986 --> 00:40:28,466 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean he was nuts. Really No, I haven't yet. 816 00:40:28,466 --> 00:40:33,626 Speaker 4: I mean there's been little moments, but you know, it was. 817 00:40:33,706 --> 00:40:36,786 Speaker 4: It was awesome for the entire fan base, for the city. 818 00:40:37,746 --> 00:40:39,746 Speaker 4: You know, we signed him. I kind of joked around 819 00:40:39,746 --> 00:40:42,306 Speaker 4: with a few of the people here at one time 820 00:40:42,346 --> 00:40:45,946 Speaker 4: that you know, real estate went up in Tampa and 821 00:40:46,266 --> 00:40:48,266 Speaker 4: the Brady effect, and I was wondering why we didn't 822 00:40:48,266 --> 00:40:52,066 Speaker 4: get a cut from that, you know, I mean, right, yeah, 823 00:40:52,306 --> 00:40:56,186 Speaker 4: so Ronnie got Ronnie Barber Dave the mayor here in Tampa. 824 00:40:56,426 --> 00:40:59,346 Speaker 4: Well we get some kind of day front. No, I'm kidding, 825 00:40:59,466 --> 00:41:01,626 Speaker 4: it's it was. It was phenomenal. But I will say 826 00:41:01,666 --> 00:41:05,706 Speaker 4: this was a big turning point obviously in the last 827 00:41:05,706 --> 00:41:08,506 Speaker 4: few decades of the Buccaneers is Brady. But I would 828 00:41:08,546 --> 00:41:12,346 Speaker 4: say it's gonna sound a little crazy. No offense to Brady. 829 00:41:12,386 --> 00:41:14,506 Speaker 4: I mean, I don't want to minimize the effect that 830 00:41:14,546 --> 00:41:17,666 Speaker 4: he had, but I think the total turning point, at 831 00:41:17,746 --> 00:41:19,906 Speaker 4: least in my tenure here was the day that I 832 00:41:19,986 --> 00:41:20,586 Speaker 4: hired Bruce. 833 00:41:21,466 --> 00:41:24,586 Speaker 1: So brusarians interesting. You know, that's a kind of a 834 00:41:24,626 --> 00:41:26,986 Speaker 1: take right now, and it's obviously not dismissing what Brady did, 835 00:41:26,986 --> 00:41:28,146 Speaker 1: but like Bruce changed the culture. 836 00:41:28,186 --> 00:41:30,986 Speaker 4: Also, he came in along with Todd and you know, 837 00:41:31,146 --> 00:41:32,466 Speaker 4: most of the staff, A lot of the stuff that 838 00:41:32,466 --> 00:41:35,706 Speaker 4: we still have here on coaching staff changed the culture. 839 00:41:37,186 --> 00:41:41,146 Speaker 4: And it was you know, I, you know all the 840 00:41:41,386 --> 00:41:44,426 Speaker 4: Although I did know Tom from my time in New England, 841 00:41:44,426 --> 00:41:46,786 Speaker 4: I was there when we drafted him. I wish I 842 00:41:46,786 --> 00:41:48,586 Speaker 4: could say I was the one that told Belichick to 843 00:41:48,666 --> 00:41:51,866 Speaker 4: draft him, but I didn't. But I knew him from 844 00:41:51,946 --> 00:41:54,106 Speaker 4: seven years that I spent with the Patriots organization. But 845 00:41:54,186 --> 00:41:56,266 Speaker 4: I don't still don't know if we would have gotten 846 00:41:56,306 --> 00:41:57,346 Speaker 4: him without Bruce. 847 00:41:57,586 --> 00:42:00,266 Speaker 1: So I think Bruce, what was the pitch? I mean, 848 00:42:00,306 --> 00:42:02,066 Speaker 1: I know we've probably told this story to others, but 849 00:42:02,106 --> 00:42:03,586 Speaker 1: I don't recall it ever being on I'm like, what 850 00:42:03,666 --> 00:42:05,386 Speaker 1: was the pitch from you and Bruce to Tom Brady, 851 00:42:05,386 --> 00:42:07,506 Speaker 1: who at the time we knew was leaving New England. 852 00:42:07,506 --> 00:42:09,826 Speaker 1: But I remember like an ESPN graphic of like fourteen 853 00:42:09,906 --> 00:42:12,066 Speaker 1: available suitors for time, and I don't think the Buccaneers 854 00:42:12,106 --> 00:42:13,066 Speaker 1: were number one on that list. 855 00:42:14,106 --> 00:42:19,826 Speaker 4: You know, it was Bruce such a way about him. 856 00:42:20,746 --> 00:42:23,666 Speaker 4: He's you know, he's just a Bruce is just such 857 00:42:23,706 --> 00:42:28,146 Speaker 4: a phenomenal leader. And we had a great team, We 858 00:42:28,226 --> 00:42:31,826 Speaker 4: had a great you know, Bass foundation, and it was 859 00:42:31,866 --> 00:42:35,946 Speaker 4: basically a half once you come down here. What better 860 00:42:35,946 --> 00:42:38,546 Speaker 4: place would her be to to win some games and 861 00:42:38,586 --> 00:42:41,026 Speaker 4: win the Super Bowl than Tampa. You know, I don't 862 00:42:41,066 --> 00:42:43,546 Speaker 4: know if that did it, but you know, probably would 863 00:42:43,546 --> 00:42:43,906 Speaker 4: have sold me. 864 00:42:44,146 --> 00:42:47,226 Speaker 1: It's and Bruce's you know, he's known as the quarterback Whisper. 865 00:42:47,266 --> 00:42:49,066 Speaker 1: Even long before he was in Tampa. He had a 866 00:42:49,106 --> 00:42:51,706 Speaker 1: book I think called Quarterback Whisper. And if you want 867 00:42:51,706 --> 00:42:54,186 Speaker 1: to go through the Bruce Arians lineage, it's from Peyton 868 00:42:54,186 --> 00:42:57,386 Speaker 1: Manning to Carson Palmer. Uh, you know, you name a 869 00:42:57,386 --> 00:43:01,466 Speaker 1: famous quarterback. They've had some experienced Roethlisberger with Bruce Arians, 870 00:43:02,586 --> 00:43:04,946 Speaker 1: what was what was his pitch? To Brady more, Hey, 871 00:43:05,306 --> 00:43:06,826 Speaker 1: I'm going to give you more ownership for this thing 872 00:43:06,866 --> 00:43:08,506 Speaker 1: where you're gonna have a chance to fly, or I'm 873 00:43:08,506 --> 00:43:10,026 Speaker 1: gonna take you even higher and bring you back to 874 00:43:10,026 --> 00:43:11,626 Speaker 1: where you were when you were winning those super Bowls 875 00:43:11,626 --> 00:43:12,626 Speaker 1: with the Patriots. 876 00:43:12,666 --> 00:43:15,746 Speaker 4: Well, no, I think he was always willing to give 877 00:43:15,826 --> 00:43:19,266 Speaker 4: him some some leeway to do some things the way 878 00:43:19,306 --> 00:43:22,946 Speaker 4: he wanted to do them now. But within within Bruce's 879 00:43:23,026 --> 00:43:25,746 Speaker 4: you know, realm of things that he likes to do things, 880 00:43:25,946 --> 00:43:28,346 Speaker 4: I think it was the perfect match matchup, to be 881 00:43:28,386 --> 00:43:32,666 Speaker 4: honest with you, where Tom was like very analytical in 882 00:43:32,786 --> 00:43:35,266 Speaker 4: terms of, you know, these are the passes that have 883 00:43:35,386 --> 00:43:38,026 Speaker 4: the best chance of having success, and you know we're 884 00:43:38,066 --> 00:43:41,386 Speaker 4: gonna keep it dialed in on these things, and Bruce's more, Okay, 885 00:43:41,466 --> 00:43:42,226 Speaker 4: let's go for it. 886 00:43:42,306 --> 00:43:44,626 Speaker 1: Let's go. We've got Mike Evans and Chris Godwin. Throw 887 00:43:44,626 --> 00:43:45,026 Speaker 1: the ball, no. 888 00:43:45,186 --> 00:43:47,786 Speaker 4: Risk it, no biscuit the you know the play right 889 00:43:47,786 --> 00:43:49,906 Speaker 4: before half in the NFC Championship game. 890 00:43:49,946 --> 00:43:51,666 Speaker 1: You know, yes, Scottie Miller, let's go. 891 00:43:51,946 --> 00:43:54,746 Speaker 4: You know, without those kind of things, we wouldn't have 892 00:43:54,826 --> 00:43:56,826 Speaker 4: made it to the Super Bowl. But without Tom as well, 893 00:43:56,866 --> 00:43:59,266 Speaker 4: I think that was the perfect marriage. It was it 894 00:43:59,306 --> 00:44:00,026 Speaker 4: worked out? Well? 895 00:44:01,346 --> 00:44:03,186 Speaker 1: You go through that run enough. Sorry, I'm lingering on 896 00:44:03,226 --> 00:44:05,266 Speaker 1: twenty twenty. It's just such a such an amazing year. 897 00:44:05,266 --> 00:44:08,666 Speaker 1: And we'll move on after this. But there was the 898 00:44:08,666 --> 00:44:13,106 Speaker 1: wild card win, which was you know, big fine, and 899 00:44:13,106 --> 00:44:15,386 Speaker 1: then we go through the next few when you go 900 00:44:15,466 --> 00:44:18,986 Speaker 1: into New Orleans and then into Lambeau and then beat Mahomes. 901 00:44:19,426 --> 00:44:21,146 Speaker 1: When you look at those three games, you probably look 902 00:44:21,186 --> 00:44:24,586 Speaker 1: at them as one amazing experience, but which one was 903 00:44:24,626 --> 00:44:26,466 Speaker 1: the most rewarding? Because to go in New Orleans and 904 00:44:26,466 --> 00:44:28,346 Speaker 1: beat Shewan Peyton and Drew Brees had to feel pretty 905 00:44:28,346 --> 00:44:29,906 Speaker 1: good after they beat the crap at you in the 906 00:44:29,946 --> 00:44:32,706 Speaker 1: regular season, and then to go into Lambeau with Aaron 907 00:44:32,786 --> 00:44:34,586 Speaker 1: Rodgers and all the hype that he was getting as 908 00:44:34,626 --> 00:44:36,306 Speaker 1: an MVP. And then there's a Super Bowl, which is 909 00:44:36,346 --> 00:44:37,746 Speaker 1: like we freaking on the Super Bowl and we be 910 00:44:37,786 --> 00:44:40,786 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes. Which one to you do you smile the most? 911 00:44:40,866 --> 00:44:42,706 Speaker 1: Or maybe like at night when you're lying in bed, 912 00:44:42,706 --> 00:44:44,746 Speaker 1: you're like, you know what, that was pretty damn good. 913 00:44:45,426 --> 00:44:46,866 Speaker 4: Well, first of all, I do want to let you 914 00:44:46,906 --> 00:44:49,626 Speaker 4: know we're not living in the past here. We've got 915 00:44:49,706 --> 00:44:52,826 Speaker 4: I know. But if you were to ask me, you 916 00:44:53,146 --> 00:44:57,946 Speaker 4: did ask me, I say, just because, and I mean, 917 00:44:57,986 --> 00:45:01,106 Speaker 4: this will all due respect to the Saints, I hate them, yeah, 918 00:45:01,306 --> 00:45:05,666 Speaker 4: you know, and they're just they're just they're just always 919 00:45:05,746 --> 00:45:09,426 Speaker 4: just such a off team and so good it's and 920 00:45:09,786 --> 00:45:12,546 Speaker 4: especially going there, it's such a tough place to win, 921 00:45:13,386 --> 00:45:17,146 Speaker 4: and they beat us twice that year, and we went 922 00:45:17,186 --> 00:45:19,346 Speaker 4: in and beat him, and I just kind of got 923 00:45:19,346 --> 00:45:22,186 Speaker 4: the sits that, you know that they I don't think 924 00:45:22,426 --> 00:45:25,826 Speaker 4: they were guaranteeing everybody that they were going to win, 925 00:45:25,906 --> 00:45:28,546 Speaker 4: but they just had a kind of a cockiness to me, 926 00:45:28,666 --> 00:45:30,826 Speaker 4: and then when they should they were a great team. 927 00:45:31,266 --> 00:45:33,586 Speaker 4: So when we beat them, and I remember walking off 928 00:45:33,626 --> 00:45:35,506 Speaker 4: the field and I pulled out my phone and I 929 00:45:35,666 --> 00:45:42,346 Speaker 4: just tweeted we that and I was like, maybe I 930 00:45:42,386 --> 00:45:44,706 Speaker 4: shouldn't have done that. But then all of a sudden, 931 00:45:44,786 --> 00:45:46,906 Speaker 4: I started getting all the alerts and I was like, 932 00:45:47,026 --> 00:45:48,546 Speaker 4: you know, this might come back to bite me. 933 00:45:48,586 --> 00:45:50,666 Speaker 1: But you didn't delete the tree. 934 00:45:50,786 --> 00:45:51,546 Speaker 4: I didn't delete it. 935 00:45:52,426 --> 00:45:55,266 Speaker 1: Sometimes you gotta be that way. All right, let's let's 936 00:45:55,266 --> 00:45:56,586 Speaker 1: talk about this team and the way you guys have 937 00:45:56,586 --> 00:45:58,746 Speaker 1: built this. Obviously I mentioned all the homegrown guys, but 938 00:45:59,146 --> 00:46:00,746 Speaker 1: one of the little things that you might not notice, 939 00:46:00,746 --> 00:46:03,426 Speaker 1: as if you were watching it, you guys have two 940 00:46:03,546 --> 00:46:05,786 Speaker 1: young draft picks in the last couple of years playing 941 00:46:05,786 --> 00:46:08,666 Speaker 1: at tackle, which is the hardest position to find. And 942 00:46:08,706 --> 00:46:11,746 Speaker 1: as Baker is doing this from an efficiency standpoint, you 943 00:46:11,786 --> 00:46:14,706 Speaker 1: notice he's not under dress at all moments. It seems 944 00:46:14,706 --> 00:46:17,506 Speaker 1: like this offensive line, even with the loss of Jensen 945 00:46:17,546 --> 00:46:20,306 Speaker 1: and the loss of Ally Marpett, they're anchored by those 946 00:46:20,346 --> 00:46:22,306 Speaker 1: two tackles, and you guys drafted both of them. Is 947 00:46:22,306 --> 00:46:23,706 Speaker 1: that a sense of pride for a guy like you 948 00:46:23,746 --> 00:46:25,306 Speaker 1: who builds the roster from the ground up. 949 00:46:25,786 --> 00:46:27,666 Speaker 4: Yeah, it really is a sense of pride for all 950 00:46:27,666 --> 00:46:30,426 Speaker 4: of us that were involved in in you know, the 951 00:46:30,466 --> 00:46:33,746 Speaker 4: selection of those guys of Tristan and Luke and you know, 952 00:46:34,266 --> 00:46:36,946 Speaker 4: are we're very happy with our offensive line right now, 953 00:46:37,106 --> 00:46:40,546 Speaker 4: Cody Mack and Haines, he's doing a good job for us. 954 00:46:40,586 --> 00:46:43,266 Speaker 4: And then Filer, Matt who signed this year. 955 00:46:43,306 --> 00:46:46,906 Speaker 1: So but the anchor, Matt Filer, let's go for. 956 00:46:47,266 --> 00:46:51,466 Speaker 4: You know, Ryan unfortunately had the injury. He's not playing, 957 00:46:51,866 --> 00:46:54,026 Speaker 4: but he still is here every day. He's in all 958 00:46:54,026 --> 00:46:57,786 Speaker 4: the meetings. And if that, if that old line room 959 00:46:58,026 --> 00:47:02,386 Speaker 4: is good and cohesive and and loose and having a 960 00:47:02,386 --> 00:47:05,186 Speaker 4: good time, then the whole organization seems to be running well. 961 00:47:05,746 --> 00:47:09,226 Speaker 4: So it's awesome to have Ryan in there because he's 962 00:47:09,346 --> 00:47:13,306 Speaker 4: rubbing off. He understands what's that. You have to have 963 00:47:13,346 --> 00:47:15,786 Speaker 4: a tone setter, and you know, he and I had 964 00:47:15,786 --> 00:47:19,386 Speaker 4: this conversation a couple weeks ago practice, like, you don't 965 00:47:19,426 --> 00:47:21,546 Speaker 4: want the tone setter to be the quarterback, you know 966 00:47:21,666 --> 00:47:24,346 Speaker 4: when I'm talking about in terms of setting the tone 967 00:47:25,026 --> 00:47:27,106 Speaker 4: bashing people on the field because you don't want him 968 00:47:27,106 --> 00:47:29,746 Speaker 4: to get hurt, although Baker has been doing that, so 969 00:47:31,066 --> 00:47:32,746 Speaker 4: but you want it to be a running back. You 970 00:47:32,746 --> 00:47:35,226 Speaker 4: want to be receiver, of tight end or an offensive lineman. 971 00:47:35,346 --> 00:47:38,626 Speaker 4: And we're starting to see that. You've saw Luke Gadecki 972 00:47:38,666 --> 00:47:41,386 Speaker 4: this weekend. You know, oh my god, pinning up player, 973 00:47:41,506 --> 00:47:45,106 Speaker 4: laying on him and just that intensity, and Cody Mauk 974 00:47:45,186 --> 00:47:47,906 Speaker 4: has that in him and it's it's it makes it. 975 00:47:48,106 --> 00:47:49,306 Speaker 4: Everybody thrives off of that. 976 00:47:49,826 --> 00:47:50,866 Speaker 1: So we still defend. 977 00:47:50,986 --> 00:47:55,786 Speaker 4: Ryan Jensen is still infusing his his his prickness into 978 00:47:55,826 --> 00:47:56,586 Speaker 4: the offensive line. 979 00:47:56,626 --> 00:47:59,426 Speaker 1: Prickness. I like that, and you feel his presence at 980 00:47:59,426 --> 00:48:00,826 Speaker 1: the way they're playing. And then if you look at 981 00:48:00,826 --> 00:48:04,226 Speaker 1: the defensive line, and this is very inside Buccaneers. I 982 00:48:04,226 --> 00:48:05,986 Speaker 1: know if you're listening and you're like, okay, I mean 983 00:48:06,746 --> 00:48:08,906 Speaker 1: that defensive line is playing as well as anybody ELSEO. 984 00:48:09,946 --> 00:48:13,986 Speaker 4: Yeah, there they've been. We we have a great group 985 00:48:14,026 --> 00:48:16,466 Speaker 4: there too, and a great rotation and get some new 986 00:48:16,466 --> 00:48:18,426 Speaker 4: players since you're great Gains being one of them, and 987 00:48:18,466 --> 00:48:21,386 Speaker 4: he's done a great job. And uh so we've got 988 00:48:21,546 --> 00:48:24,786 Speaker 4: we're pretty deep there, especially at outside linebacker, and we've 989 00:48:24,826 --> 00:48:27,706 Speaker 4: got a nice little rotation going there and Vita's playing well. 990 00:48:27,746 --> 00:48:30,266 Speaker 4: And so we'll get our first round pick coming back 991 00:48:30,306 --> 00:48:31,746 Speaker 4: here soon, so that'll be exciting. 992 00:48:32,626 --> 00:48:34,946 Speaker 1: You know. The the NFL network has our show Good 993 00:48:34,946 --> 00:48:37,466 Speaker 1: Morning Football in the morning, and Jason mccordy does a 994 00:48:37,546 --> 00:48:41,066 Speaker 1: list every week of the best defensive backs in football, 995 00:48:41,106 --> 00:48:43,306 Speaker 1: and I think now twice a in Week one when 996 00:48:43,346 --> 00:48:45,426 Speaker 1: you guys went into Minnesota and he made the big play, 997 00:48:45,746 --> 00:48:48,986 Speaker 1: and then second was this week in New Orleans making 998 00:48:48,986 --> 00:48:51,586 Speaker 1: the huge fumble, you know, claus fumble. In this one. 999 00:48:51,746 --> 00:48:54,426 Speaker 1: Antoine Winfield's playing out of his mind. You drafted him 1000 00:48:54,426 --> 00:48:55,986 Speaker 1: in the second round and he has often said he 1001 00:48:56,026 --> 00:48:57,866 Speaker 1: believed he was a first round pick and he slipped. 1002 00:48:58,106 --> 00:49:00,266 Speaker 1: What did you see from him coming out of college 1003 00:49:00,426 --> 00:49:03,106 Speaker 1: and what do you see from him now playing in 1004 00:49:03,106 --> 00:49:04,266 Speaker 1: this pivotal year for him. 1005 00:49:05,066 --> 00:49:10,826 Speaker 4: Well, we saw a really intense, athletic, smart player in 1006 00:49:10,906 --> 00:49:14,706 Speaker 4: college Nicolauld play safety, do a lot of different things, 1007 00:49:14,826 --> 00:49:16,746 Speaker 4: and then you saw a lot of his dad and him, 1008 00:49:16,786 --> 00:49:19,266 Speaker 4: you know, very intense player, great tackle. I think he's 1009 00:49:19,266 --> 00:49:22,386 Speaker 4: one of the better tacklers maybe in the you know, 1010 00:49:23,386 --> 00:49:25,386 Speaker 4: I don't want to throw out the history of the 1011 00:49:25,466 --> 00:49:29,866 Speaker 4: NFL at from that position, from that position, just just 1012 00:49:30,026 --> 00:49:35,266 Speaker 4: so reliable, just super super super reliable, great guy too, 1013 00:49:35,386 --> 00:49:37,826 Speaker 4: So very fortunate we have him. 1014 00:49:38,626 --> 00:49:41,466 Speaker 1: Okay, so we've done the football. Now we have to 1015 00:49:41,466 --> 00:49:44,546 Speaker 1: go off the field a little bit. Everyone's talking about 1016 00:49:44,626 --> 00:49:48,666 Speaker 1: Taylor Swift. I know you are a father of three. Correct, 1017 00:49:50,146 --> 00:49:53,466 Speaker 1: did did Taylor swift sensation hit your home before there 1018 00:49:53,506 --> 00:49:56,306 Speaker 1: was a crossover with Travis Kelsey or were you already 1019 00:49:56,866 --> 00:49:59,506 Speaker 1: affected by Taylor Swift this summer when she took over 1020 00:49:59,586 --> 00:50:03,586 Speaker 1: America for every person ages ten to twenty and maybe 1021 00:50:03,666 --> 00:50:06,066 Speaker 1: now beyond that, I think it's stretchedway beyond that. Have 1022 00:50:06,146 --> 00:50:08,306 Speaker 1: you been swifty? Were you a swifty? Did you know 1023 00:50:08,306 --> 00:50:11,386 Speaker 1: of Swift before she took the league by storm? 1024 00:50:11,706 --> 00:50:17,786 Speaker 4: So she played here in Tampa and I have a uh, 1025 00:50:17,826 --> 00:50:20,986 Speaker 4: you know, my wife has a suite to the games, now, 1026 00:50:21,106 --> 00:50:24,586 Speaker 4: I guess. And so with that suite, you're going to 1027 00:50:24,706 --> 00:50:26,946 Speaker 4: use it for anything that's at Raymond James. 1028 00:50:27,026 --> 00:50:29,026 Speaker 1: And is it year round? I don't. I don't know 1029 00:50:29,026 --> 00:50:30,186 Speaker 1: this stuff. This is stuff that we do. 1030 00:50:30,826 --> 00:50:31,186 Speaker 4: We do. 1031 00:50:31,426 --> 00:50:32,546 Speaker 1: It's your owner. 1032 00:50:32,746 --> 00:50:36,586 Speaker 4: Owners are very very very good to us. So and 1033 00:50:37,306 --> 00:50:40,946 Speaker 4: so she had three nights and I didn't. I didn't 1034 00:50:40,946 --> 00:50:44,626 Speaker 4: get to go to one. And it was packed twenty 1035 00:50:44,666 --> 00:50:47,626 Speaker 4: people in it every night. I joke around, I could 1036 00:50:47,626 --> 00:50:50,426 Speaker 4: have made millions of dollars selling that sweet. I would 1037 00:50:50,426 --> 00:50:54,426 Speaker 4: have gotten fired for doing that. But but so we 1038 00:50:54,466 --> 00:50:56,586 Speaker 4: had people from all over the country coming. 1039 00:50:56,826 --> 00:50:59,626 Speaker 1: Uh, you know, friends, family are like just people knew 1040 00:50:59,626 --> 00:51:01,106 Speaker 1: that the Lights have a sweet and. 1041 00:51:01,146 --> 00:51:04,746 Speaker 4: Their family all Blair's friends and you know our my friends, 1042 00:51:04,746 --> 00:51:09,226 Speaker 4: my family and and my daughter and Blair went all 1043 00:51:09,226 --> 00:51:12,986 Speaker 4: three nights I think. And anyway, so yes, it's Taylor 1044 00:51:13,026 --> 00:51:15,586 Speaker 4: Swift has been talked about in our family for quite 1045 00:51:15,586 --> 00:51:21,186 Speaker 4: a while. So but recently when before the you know, 1046 00:51:21,266 --> 00:51:24,186 Speaker 4: it came out that Kelsey, there was the rumors. 1047 00:51:23,906 --> 00:51:25,586 Speaker 1: We don't know what they are, whatever it is, Well, 1048 00:51:25,626 --> 00:51:26,946 Speaker 1: there was rumors. 1049 00:51:26,506 --> 00:51:28,146 Speaker 4: For a little while before she showed up at the 1050 00:51:28,306 --> 00:51:31,986 Speaker 4: at the first game there last week. I asked my daughter, 1051 00:51:32,026 --> 00:51:34,466 Speaker 4: I said, hey, did you hear that you know, Taylor 1052 00:51:34,506 --> 00:51:37,346 Speaker 4: Swift and Travis Kelsey might be a thing. And she said, Dad, 1053 00:51:37,466 --> 00:51:42,186 Speaker 4: stay out of her private life. Would you want someone 1054 00:51:42,226 --> 00:51:43,826 Speaker 4: talking about your private life? 1055 00:51:44,346 --> 00:51:47,106 Speaker 1: And I was like, okay, how old is your daughter? 1056 00:51:47,186 --> 00:51:47,786 Speaker 1: What's her name? 1057 00:51:47,826 --> 00:51:52,386 Speaker 4: And how old is she? Zoe? She's Twelve's just defending 1058 00:51:52,426 --> 00:51:55,146 Speaker 4: Taylor Swift to the end of the day. So I said, well, 1059 00:51:55,186 --> 00:51:56,986 Speaker 4: I think you and your friends would talk about you 1060 00:51:57,026 --> 00:51:58,786 Speaker 4: because that's different. That's different. 1061 00:51:59,106 --> 00:52:04,146 Speaker 1: That's dad. That is so good. Twelve years old, number 1062 00:52:04,146 --> 00:52:07,346 Speaker 1: one story everywhere. NBC shot to it ten times. That's 1063 00:52:07,346 --> 00:52:10,906 Speaker 1: not an exaggeration. But Zoe is defending the private life 1064 00:52:10,906 --> 00:52:12,706 Speaker 1: of Taylor Swift and Dad, why don't you back off? 1065 00:52:13,186 --> 00:52:16,106 Speaker 4: So hey, I know better now we're not talking about 1066 00:52:16,106 --> 00:52:17,386 Speaker 4: our private life. 1067 00:52:17,666 --> 00:52:22,026 Speaker 1: I love that. So good your career. We've done the 1068 00:52:22,306 --> 00:52:24,786 Speaker 1: story time with you on Good Morning Football. But for 1069 00:52:24,786 --> 00:52:27,546 Speaker 1: the listeners of this podcast, you said you mentioned seven 1070 00:52:27,666 --> 00:52:30,906 Speaker 1: years with the Patriots. Who are some of the colleagues 1071 00:52:30,946 --> 00:52:32,546 Speaker 1: you had. If you were to look around the league 1072 00:52:32,626 --> 00:52:34,786 Speaker 1: now and say, well, this guy's there, this guy's there, 1073 00:52:34,826 --> 00:52:38,346 Speaker 1: obviously Belichick is at the top of that that family tree. 1074 00:52:38,346 --> 00:52:40,666 Speaker 1: But when you look around and it doesn't have to 1075 00:52:40,706 --> 00:52:42,586 Speaker 1: be current guys, could be former guys too. Who are 1076 00:52:42,586 --> 00:52:45,106 Speaker 1: some of the people that you were rubbing elbows with 1077 00:52:45,146 --> 00:52:47,066 Speaker 1: and you know, grunting it out as a as a 1078 00:52:47,146 --> 00:52:49,146 Speaker 1: scout at the lowest level than moving your way up 1079 00:52:49,186 --> 00:52:52,746 Speaker 1: at that Patriots Franchise's. 1080 00:52:51,746 --> 00:52:55,706 Speaker 4: There's a lot, you know, at the Patriots, we had 1081 00:52:56,786 --> 00:53:00,746 Speaker 4: the scouting assistant was could have been anything. 1082 00:53:00,586 --> 00:53:04,426 Speaker 1: That that track Coot did the job in tail just. 1083 00:53:04,706 --> 00:53:08,386 Speaker 4: Getting coffee and making copies, you know, the whole thing. 1084 00:53:08,906 --> 00:53:11,826 Speaker 4: And I wasn't a scouting assistant there. I started off 1085 00:53:12,226 --> 00:53:14,066 Speaker 4: with the Dolphins as a scout assistant. By the time 1086 00:53:14,106 --> 00:53:15,906 Speaker 4: I got to the Patriots, I was an area of scout. 1087 00:53:15,946 --> 00:53:19,866 Speaker 4: But we would still work together closely with the scouting assistants. 1088 00:53:19,866 --> 00:53:22,066 Speaker 4: You had Josh McDaniels who went on to become you know, 1089 00:53:22,186 --> 00:53:24,226 Speaker 4: obviously he's the head coach of the Raiders right now, 1090 00:53:24,666 --> 00:53:27,746 Speaker 4: Nick Cassario, who is now you know, GM of the Texans. 1091 00:53:29,066 --> 00:53:32,346 Speaker 4: We had Matt Russell there. I mean I could go 1092 00:53:32,426 --> 00:53:35,466 Speaker 4: on and on. There's Mike Disner was a scouting assistant 1093 00:53:35,466 --> 00:53:38,306 Speaker 4: now the CEO running the Lions, running the Lions. So 1094 00:53:39,386 --> 00:53:41,386 Speaker 4: and then I was fortunate to work for the Eagles 1095 00:53:41,426 --> 00:53:44,586 Speaker 4: where we had you know, worked alongside Howie Roseman and 1096 00:53:44,666 --> 00:53:48,386 Speaker 4: Ryan Grigson, and I mean we had there's quite a 1097 00:53:48,386 --> 00:53:50,906 Speaker 4: few very talented young people at that time. 1098 00:53:52,266 --> 00:53:56,706 Speaker 1: And and the Belichick relationship obviously was was strong, and 1099 00:53:56,746 --> 00:53:58,986 Speaker 1: you went on did your thing in Arizona, then eventually 1100 00:53:59,026 --> 00:54:03,386 Speaker 1: got to the Buccaneers as the GM Belichick as you 1101 00:54:03,426 --> 00:54:05,226 Speaker 1: look at the history of the game, obviously as dude 1102 00:54:05,266 --> 00:54:08,266 Speaker 1: as one of the greatest head coaches of all time. 1103 00:54:08,426 --> 00:54:10,626 Speaker 1: In recent weeks, people are kind of knocked some of 1104 00:54:10,666 --> 00:54:13,546 Speaker 1: the player personnels, but when you were on the player 1105 00:54:13,586 --> 00:54:16,146 Speaker 1: personnel side, Belichick was pretty much a savant with that 1106 00:54:16,146 --> 00:54:16,826 Speaker 1: stuff too, right. 1107 00:54:16,906 --> 00:54:20,466 Speaker 4: Oh, yeah, I've learned so much from him. He's He's incredible. 1108 00:54:20,546 --> 00:54:23,666 Speaker 4: It's I wish people, I mean, they have an idea 1109 00:54:23,746 --> 00:54:27,066 Speaker 4: that he's pretty damn good. I mean, he is best 1110 00:54:27,106 --> 00:54:30,506 Speaker 4: of all time. But if they were inside the walls 1111 00:54:30,586 --> 00:54:32,666 Speaker 4: there on a for as long as a lot of 1112 00:54:32,786 --> 00:54:34,826 Speaker 4: us have worked with them, it would it would blow 1113 00:54:34,866 --> 00:54:38,066 Speaker 4: their mind just the detail that he has just with 1114 00:54:38,146 --> 00:54:39,066 Speaker 4: everything that he does. 1115 00:54:40,386 --> 00:54:42,666 Speaker 1: Was there a particular story or memory you have if 1116 00:54:42,666 --> 00:54:44,786 Speaker 1: you're at a family event or you're at a dinner 1117 00:54:44,786 --> 00:54:46,906 Speaker 1: and someone says, give me a good Belichick story, what's 1118 00:54:46,946 --> 00:54:47,506 Speaker 1: the one you go to? 1119 00:54:47,626 --> 00:54:50,626 Speaker 4: You know, I was just actually talking about this with 1120 00:54:50,626 --> 00:54:54,426 Speaker 4: with my wife. So one time. You have a lot 1121 00:54:54,426 --> 00:54:56,306 Speaker 4: of conversations with Bill when you work with him, but 1122 00:54:56,986 --> 00:55:01,466 Speaker 4: there's those one personal ones that you remember. And had 1123 00:55:01,506 --> 00:55:03,906 Speaker 4: me in his office. It was at the time I 1124 00:55:03,946 --> 00:55:07,386 Speaker 4: was interviewing with the Bears to be the general manager. 1125 00:55:07,426 --> 00:55:09,546 Speaker 4: This is twenty eleven. So I was going in to 1126 00:55:09,626 --> 00:55:12,546 Speaker 4: be for an interview and he was talking to me, 1127 00:55:12,626 --> 00:55:14,586 Speaker 4: kind of prepping me a little bit, and he said, 1128 00:55:14,826 --> 00:55:17,186 Speaker 4: you know, when you get a general manager's job at 1129 00:55:17,186 --> 00:55:20,066 Speaker 4: some point, which you will, you're gonna think you haven't 1130 00:55:20,106 --> 00:55:23,106 Speaker 4: made You think you're making a lot of money, and 1131 00:55:23,186 --> 00:55:25,746 Speaker 4: you're set, he could. But then all of a sudden, 1132 00:55:26,186 --> 00:55:28,426 Speaker 4: you're gonna get a call from your wife that she 1133 00:55:28,666 --> 00:55:32,186 Speaker 4: needs new window treatments, and you don't realize how much 1134 00:55:32,186 --> 00:55:36,506 Speaker 4: window treatments cost. Okay, and then so the money isn't 1135 00:55:36,586 --> 00:55:39,586 Speaker 4: it's not as big as you expect it to be 1136 00:55:39,586 --> 00:55:43,186 Speaker 4: because everything that everything else goes up too. And then 1137 00:55:43,546 --> 00:55:46,706 Speaker 4: we get the job here in Tampa and we get 1138 00:55:46,706 --> 00:55:49,146 Speaker 4: our house and then I get a text from my wife, Hey, 1139 00:55:49,186 --> 00:55:52,666 Speaker 4: you're going to see something go through the American Express. 1140 00:55:52,706 --> 00:55:54,346 Speaker 4: I got window treatments. 1141 00:55:55,506 --> 00:56:00,266 Speaker 1: Work for the example is exactly exactly what happened. Yeah, 1142 00:56:00,626 --> 00:56:02,866 Speaker 1: that is so good. I love that. What about the 1143 00:56:02,866 --> 00:56:05,666 Speaker 1: same for Brady? Someone says, give me your best Brady story. 1144 00:56:05,906 --> 00:56:07,586 Speaker 1: Is it you was at the parade him throwing a 1145 00:56:07,586 --> 00:56:09,506 Speaker 1: Lombardi or is there a story that we might not know? 1146 00:56:10,586 --> 00:56:14,386 Speaker 4: Well, so the whole time. The day that we signed him, 1147 00:56:14,706 --> 00:56:17,746 Speaker 4: I called him and said, because we're not COVID so 1148 00:56:17,786 --> 00:56:19,626 Speaker 4: we couldn't have him here. But I said, hey, there's 1149 00:56:19,626 --> 00:56:21,346 Speaker 4: one thing I need you to that you don't know 1150 00:56:21,386 --> 00:56:23,706 Speaker 4: about me. Is I'm a better beer chugger than you are. 1151 00:56:25,066 --> 00:56:28,946 Speaker 4: I'm totally out. Ever since I was a young age, 1152 00:56:28,986 --> 00:56:31,626 Speaker 4: can chuck a beer. I can check a beer beer. 1153 00:56:32,266 --> 00:56:34,506 Speaker 4: Never met somebody that could chuck one faster? And he 1154 00:56:34,546 --> 00:56:37,266 Speaker 4: goes no, he said, no, I got you. I swear 1155 00:56:37,306 --> 00:56:39,186 Speaker 4: to God, I'm better than you. He said, all right, 1156 00:56:39,506 --> 00:56:41,626 Speaker 4: if we win the Super Bowl, let's have a chug off. 1157 00:56:41,666 --> 00:56:44,346 Speaker 4: So we were gonna have this whole thing. It was 1158 00:56:44,346 --> 00:56:47,906 Speaker 4: gonna be sponsored by a beer, certain sponsor and all 1159 00:56:47,906 --> 00:56:50,506 Speaker 4: that stuff. And he backed out. He backed out, and 1160 00:56:50,546 --> 00:56:52,506 Speaker 4: I said, he goes, well, I was afraid to lose it. 1161 00:56:53,826 --> 00:56:55,226 Speaker 1: Yes, he doesn't want to lose. 1162 00:56:55,266 --> 00:56:58,666 Speaker 4: He didn't want to lose Tom Brady. 1163 00:56:58,786 --> 00:57:00,826 Speaker 1: So we'll give you the win there with the technicality 1164 00:57:00,866 --> 00:57:04,746 Speaker 1: that it never happened. Okay, that's fine. I texted you 1165 00:57:04,786 --> 00:57:07,186 Speaker 1: a lot, and it's never really about the football stuff 1166 00:57:07,226 --> 00:57:09,706 Speaker 1: so much. It's more just about family and how everything's going. 1167 00:57:09,826 --> 00:57:12,146 Speaker 1: And I've known you for a long time. I also 1168 00:57:12,226 --> 00:57:17,386 Speaker 1: know you are very very particular on game day. Players 1169 00:57:17,466 --> 00:57:19,506 Speaker 1: of course, lay out their clothes, what they're gonna wear, 1170 00:57:19,586 --> 00:57:21,666 Speaker 1: they do a prayer, they do their own pre game retation. 1171 00:57:22,186 --> 00:57:25,506 Speaker 1: A general manager on game day, you have your superstitions. 1172 00:57:25,546 --> 00:57:28,546 Speaker 1: Can you share with the listeners and the viewers at 1173 00:57:28,546 --> 00:57:30,986 Speaker 1: home the Jason like game day experience? 1174 00:57:30,986 --> 00:57:34,026 Speaker 4: Now, they're stupid, they're stupid. First of all, I know superstitions. 1175 00:57:34,066 --> 00:57:38,146 Speaker 4: They're stupid. It's uh. But you know, I have a 1176 00:57:38,146 --> 00:57:40,666 Speaker 4: certain pair of shoes that kind of have to wear 1177 00:57:40,786 --> 00:57:43,426 Speaker 4: that like this. These parents had something to do with 1178 00:57:43,466 --> 00:57:52,306 Speaker 4: that last win. You know, it's just stupid, nort It's 1179 00:57:52,306 --> 00:57:54,906 Speaker 4: gotta be a new pair every year. You kind of 1180 00:57:54,906 --> 00:57:59,226 Speaker 4: retire the other ones. Yeah, and then so when we're 1181 00:57:59,426 --> 00:58:01,066 Speaker 4: when I pull so when I come to the game, 1182 00:58:01,106 --> 00:58:02,986 Speaker 4: they have a spot for the head coach, the general 1183 00:58:02,986 --> 00:58:05,706 Speaker 4: manager and all the owners under the stadium. And I 1184 00:58:05,746 --> 00:58:08,586 Speaker 4: can't have a dirty car under the stadium because people 1185 00:58:08,626 --> 00:58:09,986 Speaker 4: are walking by it. So I have to go to 1186 00:58:09,986 --> 00:58:13,266 Speaker 4: a certain car wash on the way. Then I have 1187 00:58:13,346 --> 00:58:15,626 Speaker 4: to stop at the wah wah and you know what 1188 00:58:15,666 --> 00:58:18,466 Speaker 4: a wa Tampa floor several wah wahs. 1189 00:58:18,466 --> 00:58:20,626 Speaker 1: Now, really, I thought that was just a Philly thing. 1190 00:58:20,746 --> 00:58:22,546 Speaker 4: No, there's there's one here. I have to get a 1191 00:58:22,546 --> 00:58:25,546 Speaker 4: certain I have to get a diet of half and 1192 00:58:25,626 --> 00:58:29,626 Speaker 4: half iced tea, lemonade, and I have to have this 1193 00:58:30,306 --> 00:58:34,866 Speaker 4: eggs this sizzley sandwich, I mean, and then it's like 1194 00:58:34,986 --> 00:58:36,946 Speaker 4: goes on and on. So it's I have a lot 1195 00:58:36,946 --> 00:58:37,986 Speaker 4: of go on. 1196 00:58:38,066 --> 00:58:40,306 Speaker 1: I thought, more. Okay, so you go from the shoes 1197 00:58:40,346 --> 00:58:42,906 Speaker 1: to the car. Then when you when you get to 1198 00:58:42,946 --> 00:58:45,146 Speaker 1: the stadium, what's the routine? Like, I do you do 1199 00:58:45,186 --> 00:58:47,266 Speaker 1: one lap? Do you listen to a certain song? Like 1200 00:58:47,306 --> 00:58:47,866 Speaker 1: where are we at? 1201 00:58:47,946 --> 00:58:48,266 Speaker 5: I do? 1202 00:58:48,346 --> 00:58:50,546 Speaker 4: I go through lap, through the locker room, Then I 1203 00:58:50,546 --> 00:58:52,186 Speaker 4: go sit in my wife's sweep for a little bit 1204 00:58:52,226 --> 00:58:54,586 Speaker 4: and watch the pregame show. And then I go back 1205 00:58:54,586 --> 00:58:55,986 Speaker 4: down to the field and do the whole thing. But 1206 00:58:56,346 --> 00:58:58,706 Speaker 4: the biggest one I've left out I've omitted here is 1207 00:58:59,666 --> 00:59:02,946 Speaker 4: the week of the game. I have to at least 1208 00:59:02,986 --> 00:59:05,666 Speaker 4: one night on the way home, stop at this dive 1209 00:59:05,746 --> 00:59:08,786 Speaker 4: bar it's called the press box, and I have to 1210 00:59:08,826 --> 00:59:13,346 Speaker 4: play one round of golden tea golf, just with let's 1211 00:59:13,386 --> 00:59:15,706 Speaker 4: go with with a few of my buddies that are 1212 00:59:15,706 --> 00:59:18,386 Speaker 4: always in there, and I have to play one round 1213 00:59:18,426 --> 00:59:20,666 Speaker 4: of golden tea golf. Otherwise the whole week goes to 1214 00:59:21,146 --> 00:59:21,986 Speaker 4: So that's. 1215 00:59:22,226 --> 00:59:23,906 Speaker 1: Do you have the high score you? 1216 00:59:24,266 --> 00:59:27,626 Speaker 4: Oh no, I'm constantly trying. I have won one week, 1217 00:59:27,706 --> 00:59:30,586 Speaker 4: that was it? Yeah, yeah, yeah. 1218 00:59:30,306 --> 00:59:33,226 Speaker 1: So it's called the press box. And if you're a 1219 00:59:33,226 --> 00:59:35,826 Speaker 1: Buccaneers fan looking to kind of bend the ear of 1220 00:59:35,866 --> 00:59:37,986 Speaker 1: the general manager, your best bet is to just go 1221 00:59:38,066 --> 00:59:41,386 Speaker 1: to the press box Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday. You're 1222 00:59:41,386 --> 00:59:43,346 Speaker 1: one in five chance you're going to see Jason Knight. 1223 00:59:44,186 --> 00:59:46,186 Speaker 4: It's not long either. It won't be long. It's just 1224 00:59:46,226 --> 00:59:49,106 Speaker 4: one round of golden tea. 1225 00:59:48,226 --> 00:59:51,466 Speaker 1: One round gold Are the wings good at the press phenomenal? Phenomenal, 1226 00:59:51,906 --> 00:59:53,026 Speaker 1: phenomen what a commercial? 1227 00:59:53,466 --> 00:59:57,186 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, I won't get anything there though, by the way, 1228 00:59:57,226 --> 01:00:00,426 Speaker 4: I've mentioned this before, Walter the owner has never given 1229 01:00:00,426 --> 01:00:01,386 Speaker 4: me a free beer. 1230 01:00:02,146 --> 01:00:04,146 Speaker 1: And I assume you're keeping the press box open with 1231 01:00:04,186 --> 01:00:10,306 Speaker 1: that frequency before we close. It's so early, it's like 1232 01:00:10,346 --> 01:00:12,906 Speaker 1: it's early bye week. It kind of started off the 1233 01:00:12,946 --> 01:00:15,106 Speaker 1: podcast with it, but like it is one of the 1234 01:00:15,146 --> 01:00:17,386 Speaker 1: stories of the league that here the Bucks are this 1235 01:00:17,466 --> 01:00:19,386 Speaker 1: team that some people peg to be in a total 1236 01:00:19,426 --> 01:00:25,506 Speaker 1: rebuild and yet top of the division, feeling good, relatively healthy. 1237 01:00:26,186 --> 01:00:28,146 Speaker 1: What's the state of the nation here as we head 1238 01:00:28,146 --> 01:00:29,826 Speaker 1: towards the buy and you get one of these brief 1239 01:00:29,826 --> 01:00:31,306 Speaker 1: weekends off and then you hit the road and you 1240 01:00:31,386 --> 01:00:33,546 Speaker 1: guys have to get back in business. You're wearing the 1241 01:00:33,586 --> 01:00:35,946 Speaker 1: creamsicles obviously when you first play the Lions when you 1242 01:00:35,986 --> 01:00:37,986 Speaker 1: get back, which is so cool. But then it's a 1243 01:00:38,026 --> 01:00:40,386 Speaker 1: long stretch and it's a long season. But can you 1244 01:00:40,426 --> 01:00:42,026 Speaker 1: take a moment to just enjoy this thing? 1245 01:00:42,946 --> 01:00:45,506 Speaker 4: I mean, I'd be lying if I said no. Yeah, 1246 01:00:45,626 --> 01:00:47,826 Speaker 4: of course, and I mean there's nothing better and going 1247 01:00:47,866 --> 01:00:52,146 Speaker 4: into a buy after you won, so yeah, I got 1248 01:00:52,146 --> 01:00:53,866 Speaker 4: to be honest with you usually have the twenty four 1249 01:00:53,866 --> 01:00:55,466 Speaker 4: hour rule, but if you're going to the bye week, 1250 01:00:55,506 --> 01:00:57,546 Speaker 4: you can have a few extra days, so it's but 1251 01:00:57,626 --> 01:00:59,266 Speaker 4: it's one game at a time. After this, I mean, 1252 01:00:59,266 --> 01:01:02,506 Speaker 4: we haven't won anything yet, so it's but feeling good 1253 01:01:02,506 --> 01:01:04,026 Speaker 4: about where we're at. Feel like we're going to be 1254 01:01:04,066 --> 01:01:04,986 Speaker 4: pretty healthy coming out. 1255 01:01:05,986 --> 01:01:07,786 Speaker 1: Can I tell you something. When I was a kid, 1256 01:01:07,786 --> 01:01:10,586 Speaker 1: my dad and I used to do this cool tradition 1257 01:01:10,666 --> 01:01:13,586 Speaker 1: where like every football season, I was allowed to buy 1258 01:01:13,626 --> 01:01:16,146 Speaker 1: a new jersey. And this is back in the eighties 1259 01:01:16,186 --> 01:01:18,706 Speaker 1: and the nineties where it wasn't like you just go 1260 01:01:18,786 --> 01:01:21,306 Speaker 1: on fanatics dot Com and pick any player and you could. 1261 01:01:21,826 --> 01:01:23,106 Speaker 1: It would be a thing you'd have to go in 1262 01:01:23,186 --> 01:01:25,506 Speaker 1: our mall. It was a place called going to the Game, 1263 01:01:25,666 --> 01:01:27,426 Speaker 1: and it was like a you know, like a Champs 1264 01:01:27,506 --> 01:01:30,426 Speaker 1: or one of these stores. It was the Freehold Raceway Mall, Freehold, 1265 01:01:30,426 --> 01:01:34,026 Speaker 1: New Jersey, and it was the ninety seven season, I 1266 01:01:34,066 --> 01:01:36,346 Speaker 1: want to say, maybe ninety sixties, and it was the 1267 01:01:36,426 --> 01:01:39,586 Speaker 1: year where Warren Sap and Derek Brooks were both drafted, 1268 01:01:39,626 --> 01:01:41,266 Speaker 1: so I might be even it might be man longer 1269 01:01:41,346 --> 01:01:43,706 Speaker 1: for that. And in going to the game, they had 1270 01:01:43,786 --> 01:01:48,626 Speaker 1: a creamsicle You're gonna love this player creamsicle Hardy Nickerson jersey. 1271 01:01:48,706 --> 01:01:51,306 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, And I bought that jersey as my jersey 1272 01:01:51,306 --> 01:01:54,186 Speaker 1: that year, and I would wear that to school every Monday, 1273 01:01:54,306 --> 01:01:57,066 Speaker 1: even though the Buccaneers were not great that season. And 1274 01:01:57,066 --> 01:01:59,186 Speaker 1: this is before they went to the Pewter and you 1275 01:01:59,306 --> 01:02:02,306 Speaker 1: had this like slick cool jersey and the creamsicle was 1276 01:02:02,346 --> 01:02:04,746 Speaker 1: the jersey and I would get mocked for it because 1277 01:02:04,746 --> 01:02:07,586 Speaker 1: the Bucks weren't great, But I love that gle you 1278 01:02:07,626 --> 01:02:09,946 Speaker 1: guys warm. When Josh Freeman was the quarterback for a 1279 01:02:09,946 --> 01:02:11,626 Speaker 1: couple of Coffee there, I remember they had the they 1280 01:02:11,666 --> 01:02:15,826 Speaker 1: would do the throwbacks, it's coming back. Does the creamsicle 1281 01:02:15,946 --> 01:02:18,826 Speaker 1: jersey mean anything to you as it predated your time? 1282 01:02:19,186 --> 01:02:22,266 Speaker 1: And do you realize like what nostalgia comes along with 1283 01:02:22,306 --> 01:02:26,866 Speaker 1: that creamsicle jersey and that logo of the pirate with 1284 01:02:26,906 --> 01:02:30,906 Speaker 1: the with the eye patch and the whole deal creamsicles? 1285 01:02:30,946 --> 01:02:32,266 Speaker 1: Am I making too big of a deal here going 1286 01:02:32,306 --> 01:02:32,706 Speaker 1: down memory? 1287 01:02:32,786 --> 01:02:34,906 Speaker 4: L No, not at all? Are you kidding me? This 1288 01:02:34,986 --> 01:02:38,826 Speaker 4: is uh, we've been looking forward to this forever. I mean, 1289 01:02:38,826 --> 01:02:41,786 Speaker 4: we've got creamsicle stuff coming out of our ears at 1290 01:02:41,786 --> 01:02:45,266 Speaker 4: our house right now, and it's uh is that right? Oh? Yeah? Everybody? 1291 01:02:45,346 --> 01:02:47,106 Speaker 1: What's the what's the play? Because like Doug Williams was 1292 01:02:47,106 --> 01:02:49,746 Speaker 1: wearing the Creamsicles in seventy nine and Leroy Salmon. But like, 1293 01:02:49,746 --> 01:02:51,706 Speaker 1: who's the player when you think of the Creamsicle Bucks, 1294 01:02:51,746 --> 01:02:52,626 Speaker 1: who's the player. 1295 01:02:52,506 --> 01:02:57,026 Speaker 4: That you think? Yeah? So, I mean, yeah, here we go. 1296 01:02:57,266 --> 01:02:59,986 Speaker 4: It's yeah, it's it's super exciting. It's gonna be a 1297 01:02:59,986 --> 01:03:01,626 Speaker 4: lot of fun. It's gonna be it's gonna be awesome. 1298 01:03:02,466 --> 01:03:04,466 Speaker 1: Okay, too much for me. I think I want to 1299 01:03:04,506 --> 01:03:07,066 Speaker 1: go down like Eric Rhett and start talking about all 1300 01:03:07,066 --> 01:03:09,066 Speaker 1: these guys and Trent Dilferd. But you're not looking to 1301 01:03:09,306 --> 01:03:11,506 Speaker 1: We're living in the current, Peter, not in the past. 1302 01:03:11,866 --> 01:03:12,106 Speaker 4: Let's go. 1303 01:03:12,986 --> 01:03:15,946 Speaker 1: That's it. I might want a Vita Vea throwback I got. 1304 01:03:16,146 --> 01:03:18,306 Speaker 1: I might need a Vitavea creamsicle and rocking on Good 1305 01:03:18,306 --> 01:03:20,066 Speaker 1: Morning Football. Who can I talk to at the Bucks 1306 01:03:20,066 --> 01:03:21,346 Speaker 1: to get one of those mates? Do you have any 1307 01:03:21,386 --> 01:03:23,706 Speaker 1: hookups or no? Is Walter at the bar able to 1308 01:03:23,746 --> 01:03:24,506 Speaker 1: hook me up? I don't. 1309 01:03:24,626 --> 01:03:25,706 Speaker 4: We'll see what we can do here. 1310 01:03:26,746 --> 01:03:28,586 Speaker 1: Walter at the press box and I are gonna be 1311 01:03:28,626 --> 01:03:31,826 Speaker 1: the only two Vita Vea Creamsicle jersey. Whereas, uh, Jason Light, 1312 01:03:31,866 --> 01:03:33,946 Speaker 1: I have taken way too much of your time during 1313 01:03:33,986 --> 01:03:36,706 Speaker 1: the season. A general manager, what you guys have built 1314 01:03:36,746 --> 01:03:39,826 Speaker 1: as a collective in that front office is nothing short 1315 01:03:39,866 --> 01:03:41,986 Speaker 1: of incredible. The Buccaneers are one of the most consistent 1316 01:03:42,026 --> 01:03:44,106 Speaker 1: teams in the NFL, and you guys just churn out 1317 01:03:44,426 --> 01:03:46,746 Speaker 1: draft picks that are playing on Sundays with very few 1318 01:03:46,786 --> 01:03:49,506 Speaker 1: bus and very few failures. I appreciate your time, dude. 1319 01:03:49,506 --> 01:03:50,506 Speaker 1: Good luck the rest of the way. 1320 01:03:50,626 --> 01:03:51,346 Speaker 4: I appreciate it. 1321 01:03:52,186 --> 01:03:56,026 Speaker 1: Have fun as always, Now we will, Thanks dude. That's 1322 01:03:56,106 --> 01:03:58,466 Speaker 1: Jason Light. Tambay Buccaneers their bye week and they come 1323 01:03:58,506 --> 01:04:01,266 Speaker 1: back there we're in creamsicles playing the Lions. Thanks Jason. 1324 01:04:09,746 --> 01:04:12,546 Speaker 1: I love Jason Light. I mean, that's a great inview. 1325 01:04:12,546 --> 01:04:13,946 Speaker 1: That's what we want to do with this podcast. We 1326 01:04:13,986 --> 01:04:15,906 Speaker 1: want to get an opportunity to speak to the guys 1327 01:04:15,906 --> 01:04:18,026 Speaker 1: who make the decisions and when you could tell stories 1328 01:04:18,026 --> 01:04:20,666 Speaker 1: about Belichick, Brady right up to Baker Mayfield. But also 1329 01:04:20,746 --> 01:04:22,826 Speaker 1: ten years is the gm is. A lot of these 1330 01:04:22,866 --> 01:04:24,626 Speaker 1: guys have two years, three years to do it. They 1331 01:04:24,666 --> 01:04:27,866 Speaker 1: probably get two quarterbacks. This is a guy who you know, 1332 01:04:27,906 --> 01:04:32,986 Speaker 1: went from Jamis to the Brady to now Baker Mayfield 1333 01:04:33,026 --> 01:04:36,186 Speaker 1: and they're winning. So Aaron, I love that stuff. 1334 01:04:36,626 --> 01:04:39,146 Speaker 3: Yeah, I also don't feel like I get a ton 1335 01:04:39,186 --> 01:04:42,546 Speaker 3: of You don't often hear a GM just flat out 1336 01:04:42,626 --> 01:04:45,546 Speaker 3: say God, I hate the Saints, and so that was 1337 01:04:45,586 --> 01:04:47,786 Speaker 3: the most important win to me, was beating the Saints. 1338 01:04:48,026 --> 01:04:50,706 Speaker 1: How candid it was great. There was something to that 1339 01:04:50,786 --> 01:04:52,706 Speaker 1: interview where I felt like, you know, Bye Week is 1340 01:04:52,706 --> 01:04:54,786 Speaker 1: a little different than if you start off. I mean, 1341 01:04:54,786 --> 01:04:56,626 Speaker 1: we got them at the perfect time. Yeah, yeah, three 1342 01:04:56,666 --> 01:04:59,226 Speaker 1: and one. Bye Week is like if you're in a circle, 1343 01:04:59,306 --> 01:05:01,786 Speaker 1: like an in season GM guest, that's it. I doubt 1344 01:05:01,826 --> 01:05:05,066 Speaker 1: we'll get many others because these guys are so tight 1345 01:05:05,106 --> 01:05:07,226 Speaker 1: lipped and such on eggshells for week to week. But 1346 01:05:07,226 --> 01:05:08,786 Speaker 1: I knew this was the sweet spot, so we got 1347 01:05:08,866 --> 01:05:12,866 Speaker 1: Jason Knight. I started the podcast talking about my amazing Sunday, 1348 01:05:13,666 --> 01:05:15,306 Speaker 1: but I have to close the loop on something we 1349 01:05:15,346 --> 01:05:19,826 Speaker 1: mentioned last week. I was invited as a special guest 1350 01:05:20,506 --> 01:05:25,026 Speaker 1: to a Broadway show last Thursday night, and Aaron, as 1351 01:05:25,106 --> 01:05:28,706 Speaker 1: my fellow fan of the Great White Way, my fellow 1352 01:05:28,786 --> 01:05:34,306 Speaker 1: Thespian supporter, I went. I brought my lovely wife, Erica, 1353 01:05:34,626 --> 01:05:38,506 Speaker 1: and we went to the Melissa Etheridge one woman show 1354 01:05:38,626 --> 01:05:43,546 Speaker 1: titled My Window. It premiered Thursday night. It is in 1355 01:05:43,626 --> 01:05:47,386 Speaker 1: the middle of Times Square and my review is thus 1356 01:05:48,066 --> 01:05:51,906 Speaker 1: it was awesome. I loved it. Basically Melissa, whose life 1357 01:05:51,906 --> 01:05:53,626 Speaker 1: I don't really know all the details too. She's a 1358 01:05:53,666 --> 01:05:56,146 Speaker 1: fan of the Chiefs. She's been on Good Morning Football 1359 01:05:56,146 --> 01:05:59,586 Speaker 1: about a dozen times. She sends me a direct message says, 1360 01:05:59,706 --> 01:06:01,786 Speaker 1: I have a Broadway show coming out. I knew she 1361 01:06:01,826 --> 01:06:04,426 Speaker 1: was off Broadway for a little bit telling my life story. 1362 01:06:05,386 --> 01:06:08,026 Speaker 1: Do you and your wife want to come? I said yes, 1363 01:06:08,586 --> 01:06:11,186 Speaker 1: and I will be honest. Thursday night football, well, ninety 1364 01:06:11,266 --> 01:06:13,786 Speaker 1: nine percent of the country was watching the first half 1365 01:06:13,826 --> 01:06:19,826 Speaker 1: of Alliance Packers wand I was busy singing I'm the 1366 01:06:19,866 --> 01:06:23,266 Speaker 1: only one. Yeah, I mean it was amazing. So Etherge 1367 01:06:23,346 --> 01:06:25,866 Speaker 1: comes out and this is my recommendation to anybody coming 1368 01:06:25,866 --> 01:06:28,426 Speaker 1: through New York City or they have it. It's a 1369 01:06:28,546 --> 01:06:30,986 Speaker 1: rock concert, but it's also like her personal story, and 1370 01:06:30,986 --> 01:06:33,706 Speaker 1: it tells the story. She's a small town girl from 1371 01:06:33,906 --> 01:06:36,786 Speaker 1: a small town in Kansas and her only dream ever 1372 01:06:37,386 --> 01:06:39,466 Speaker 1: was to play guitar and be in a rock band. 1373 01:06:39,626 --> 01:06:41,866 Speaker 1: And back then when she was born in the sixties, 1374 01:06:41,946 --> 01:06:43,826 Speaker 1: that was not common for a female to do that. 1375 01:06:43,866 --> 01:06:47,346 Speaker 1: By the age of twelve, Melissa was playing in dive 1376 01:06:47,426 --> 01:06:50,946 Speaker 1: bars and parts of bands with thirty and forty year olds, 1377 01:06:51,026 --> 01:06:55,466 Speaker 1: she was this phenom on the guitar. She comes out 1378 01:06:55,546 --> 01:06:59,026 Speaker 1: of the closet and her mother says she can't agree 1379 01:06:59,066 --> 01:07:02,306 Speaker 1: with that decision, and that severs or really hampers her 1380 01:07:02,306 --> 01:07:04,586 Speaker 1: relationship with her mother. But her father, who has a 1381 01:07:04,626 --> 01:07:07,306 Speaker 1: ton of grace, says, I've got your back no matter 1382 01:07:07,346 --> 01:07:09,906 Speaker 1: what you just as long as you're happy. She moves 1383 01:07:09,946 --> 01:07:14,386 Speaker 1: to Los Angeles, where she chases this dream to be 1384 01:07:14,466 --> 01:07:17,986 Speaker 1: a rock star, which she says, it's the same dream 1385 01:07:18,026 --> 01:07:20,786 Speaker 1: that ten thousand other people who moved to Los Angeles has, 1386 01:07:20,826 --> 01:07:24,226 Speaker 1: And sure enough she ends up playing bars and gets 1387 01:07:24,266 --> 01:07:26,626 Speaker 1: one gig after another to finally be able to perform 1388 01:07:26,666 --> 01:07:30,506 Speaker 1: as an act. And she falls in love with a 1389 01:07:30,946 --> 01:07:33,826 Speaker 1: very famous Hollywood actor. You can google this. She doesn't 1390 01:07:33,866 --> 01:07:35,946 Speaker 1: mention it in the show. Of Course, I did a 1391 01:07:36,106 --> 01:07:41,706 Speaker 1: very famous Hollywood actor's wife, and they have this torrid romance. 1392 01:07:42,026 --> 01:07:45,506 Speaker 1: And this woman leaves a very famous Hollywood actor for 1393 01:07:45,546 --> 01:07:47,866 Speaker 1: Melissa Etheridge, and they live in the Hollywood Hills together 1394 01:07:47,906 --> 01:07:50,546 Speaker 1: and they start this life together, and then sure enough 1395 01:07:50,666 --> 01:07:54,426 Speaker 1: soon comes great stardom, and she has this really poignant 1396 01:07:54,426 --> 01:07:56,346 Speaker 1: moment where she's like, all I ever wanted to be 1397 01:07:57,426 --> 01:08:00,666 Speaker 1: was rich and famous, and then once I got to 1398 01:08:00,746 --> 01:08:05,506 Speaker 1: that point, I realized that meant nothing, and that fame 1399 01:08:05,626 --> 01:08:08,546 Speaker 1: and that wealth and all that stuff was pretty hollow 1400 01:08:08,586 --> 01:08:10,906 Speaker 1: and empty. And I'm on the road three hundred days 1401 01:08:10,906 --> 01:08:12,786 Speaker 1: out of the year, and I'm doing European tours and 1402 01:08:12,826 --> 01:08:16,706 Speaker 1: I'm away from my kids. Like she sings songs throughout Aaron, 1403 01:08:16,906 --> 01:08:20,546 Speaker 1: this is not Broadway dot Com, this is not theater mania, 1404 01:08:20,786 --> 01:08:26,066 Speaker 1: but my review is a very solid should go see 1405 01:08:26,186 --> 01:08:29,106 Speaker 1: on the Melissa Ethrid Show. I wouldn't say you need 1406 01:08:29,146 --> 01:08:30,986 Speaker 1: to fly in for it tomorrow. This isn't gonna be 1407 01:08:31,026 --> 01:08:33,506 Speaker 1: the craze that is Hamilton. I'm not gonna say that 1408 01:08:33,666 --> 01:08:36,066 Speaker 1: you must, you know, see it the first week. But 1409 01:08:37,066 --> 01:08:40,346 Speaker 1: if you want to laugh, cry, dance a little bit 1410 01:08:40,546 --> 01:08:42,746 Speaker 1: and you know, hear some great music and then just 1411 01:08:42,746 --> 01:08:46,586 Speaker 1: see it and just a wonderful performance from Melissa, I 1412 01:08:46,586 --> 01:08:50,786 Speaker 1: would advise going to see my Window on Broadway. Your 1413 01:08:50,786 --> 01:08:54,826 Speaker 1: thoughts on my you know, Hollywood slash Broadway. 1414 01:08:54,426 --> 01:08:58,706 Speaker 3: Review, I think you probably could have delivered it a 1415 01:08:58,746 --> 01:09:00,746 Speaker 3: little better. I think, you know, maybe a little better 1416 01:09:00,826 --> 01:09:03,946 Speaker 3: lighting next time you do it. Yeah, no, no, I 1417 01:09:03,946 --> 01:09:06,706 Speaker 3: think I love the theater as well. My parents both 1418 01:09:06,706 --> 01:09:10,706 Speaker 3: from the theater, and I also love that there has 1419 01:09:10,746 --> 01:09:13,426 Speaker 3: been this influx with Broadway with these kind of they're 1420 01:09:13,506 --> 01:09:16,946 Speaker 3: not just the jukebox musical. It's the artist doing the song. 1421 01:09:17,066 --> 01:09:21,066 Speaker 3: So it's not just come see us do a bunch 1422 01:09:21,106 --> 01:09:22,986 Speaker 3: of Michael Jackson songs, which I'm sure is in I 1423 01:09:23,026 --> 01:09:23,466 Speaker 3: haven't seen. 1424 01:09:23,626 --> 01:09:24,746 Speaker 1: Apparently that show is awesome. 1425 01:09:24,826 --> 01:09:25,826 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I haven't seen it. 1426 01:09:25,866 --> 01:09:27,426 Speaker 1: But you want to get the football link to this. 1427 01:09:27,546 --> 01:09:30,106 Speaker 1: The GM of the Seahawks, John Schneider, is a friend 1428 01:09:30,106 --> 01:09:33,106 Speaker 1: and he texted me on Thursday that his wife, Tracy's 1429 01:09:33,106 --> 01:09:35,346 Speaker 1: in town. He's like, what's a good restaurant in the 1430 01:09:35,346 --> 01:09:39,506 Speaker 1: theater district? She's seeing the MJ Show, And sure enough, 1431 01:09:39,546 --> 01:09:41,346 Speaker 1: we want to do two reviews. I want to she 1432 01:09:41,466 --> 01:09:43,386 Speaker 1: freaking loved it and the MJ Show, which is a 1433 01:09:43,426 --> 01:09:46,266 Speaker 1: story about Michael Jackson but obviously it's not him singing 1434 01:09:46,946 --> 01:09:49,626 Speaker 1: no Longer with Us, but it's the Michael Jackson story 1435 01:09:49,666 --> 01:09:53,146 Speaker 1: through that. But apparently that's awesome and worth seeing. But 1436 01:09:53,666 --> 01:09:57,466 Speaker 1: what's the other one? Merrily, and there's another one, Mellowy Roll, 1437 01:09:57,466 --> 01:10:00,506 Speaker 1: which is supposed to be great again Broadway reviews on 1438 01:10:00,586 --> 01:10:03,106 Speaker 1: a football podcast. But Melissa Etherich, are you a fan 1439 01:10:03,146 --> 01:10:04,866 Speaker 1: of the music, Like I only knew three or four songs, 1440 01:10:05,146 --> 01:10:07,586 Speaker 1: and that's one an insult to meliss I knew come 1441 01:10:07,586 --> 01:10:09,786 Speaker 1: to my window. I knew I'm the only one, and 1442 01:10:09,866 --> 01:10:11,826 Speaker 1: I knew what are the beginning songs were? 1443 01:10:12,026 --> 01:10:14,186 Speaker 3: I mean, those are the two I know. Like, for 1444 01:10:14,226 --> 01:10:17,466 Speaker 3: whatever reason, I think she was not something that my 1445 01:10:17,546 --> 01:10:19,906 Speaker 3: dad played as much. Like there he was a Bonnie 1446 01:10:19,986 --> 01:10:22,586 Speaker 3: Raid guy. So I have a lot of Bonnie Raid 1447 01:10:22,626 --> 01:10:23,466 Speaker 3: stuff in my child. 1448 01:10:23,546 --> 01:10:28,186 Speaker 1: Let's give them something to talk about. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 1449 01:10:28,266 --> 01:10:33,546 Speaker 1: she was great. So here's this awkward moment for me again. Me, me, Me, 1450 01:10:33,746 --> 01:10:36,946 Speaker 1: this is becoming like a diary. I apologize. I got 1451 01:10:36,986 --> 01:10:39,506 Speaker 1: there on time with my wife. It's pouring rain out 1452 01:10:39,506 --> 01:10:42,226 Speaker 1: of the will call. It's Thursday night, I mean torrential rain. 1453 01:10:42,426 --> 01:10:43,826 Speaker 1: We go to the will call. The woman at the 1454 01:10:43,826 --> 01:10:45,306 Speaker 1: will calls like, I don't if your tickets. I'm like, 1455 01:10:46,146 --> 01:10:48,226 Speaker 1: my wife got all dressed up. We came to the theater. 1456 01:10:48,266 --> 01:10:51,786 Speaker 1: I'm like, damn, all right, let's leave. And then she's like, well, 1457 01:10:51,786 --> 01:10:53,586 Speaker 1: it's your name. I'm like it's Peter Shugger. She's like, 1458 01:10:53,746 --> 01:10:54,906 Speaker 1: we don't have you. I'm like, all right, great, I've 1459 01:10:54,906 --> 01:10:56,946 Speaker 1: gone like sheepishly gonna go back on the two train 1460 01:10:57,026 --> 01:10:59,986 Speaker 1: back to Brooklyn, like literally like just embarrassed, mortified that 1461 01:11:00,066 --> 01:11:03,346 Speaker 1: this happened. And then out of nowhere, someone's like, wait, 1462 01:11:03,386 --> 01:11:05,266 Speaker 1: are you with the press? I'm like, kind of, I'm 1463 01:11:05,266 --> 01:11:08,106 Speaker 1: not covering it, like I don't I don't work for Playbill, 1464 01:11:08,386 --> 01:11:10,466 Speaker 1: but like, yes I am, I'm with the press. 1465 01:11:10,666 --> 01:11:12,946 Speaker 3: Peter Schrager of Broadway World dot com. 1466 01:11:12,666 --> 01:11:16,826 Speaker 1: Broadway World dot com, here's my request to all the 1467 01:11:16,826 --> 01:11:19,546 Speaker 1: listeners and to you guys. Go to a site called 1468 01:11:19,746 --> 01:11:25,706 Speaker 1: theatermania dot com. Theatermania dot com click on the Melissa 1469 01:11:25,746 --> 01:11:29,666 Speaker 1: Ethridge Show. Are you doing it right now? Aaron? What 1470 01:11:29,746 --> 01:11:31,706 Speaker 1: I didn't realize was yes, I'm with the press, but 1471 01:11:31,786 --> 01:11:35,146 Speaker 1: I was an invited guest. I don't know what was 1472 01:11:35,186 --> 01:11:37,986 Speaker 1: going on in this situation, like I blacked out, but 1473 01:11:38,106 --> 01:11:43,146 Speaker 1: I wasn't supposed to be all doing this, Aaron. They 1474 01:11:43,186 --> 01:11:45,346 Speaker 1: asked me to walk the red carpet, and I said, yes, 1475 01:11:49,186 --> 01:11:50,906 Speaker 1: Can you go through the list you have it up 1476 01:11:50,986 --> 01:11:53,666 Speaker 1: yet the red carpet pictures. Can you go through the 1477 01:11:53,706 --> 01:11:55,866 Speaker 1: lists of the names, some of the bigger ones for 1478 01:11:56,226 --> 01:11:58,146 Speaker 1: and then the last picture and what this person is 1479 01:11:58,186 --> 01:12:01,746 Speaker 1: wearing first? Give it the who hosted the Tonys this year. 1480 01:12:01,746 --> 01:12:03,106 Speaker 3: Do you know the name of the person who hosted 1481 01:12:03,106 --> 01:12:04,586 Speaker 3: the Tonys? 1482 01:12:04,786 --> 01:12:08,146 Speaker 1: Guess who was the on that red carpet? From Melissa 1483 01:12:08,266 --> 01:12:12,426 Speaker 1: Sophia Bush? Is there Bush? Gina Gershawn, who I grew 1484 01:12:12,506 --> 01:12:16,106 Speaker 1: up obviously loving for her many roles. Who else? Wait? 1485 01:12:16,146 --> 01:12:18,826 Speaker 3: Who is this in a white tea and a blue 1486 01:12:18,866 --> 01:12:22,906 Speaker 3: button down? Peter Schrager right there? 1487 01:12:23,346 --> 01:12:25,946 Speaker 1: You should have seen the confused looks of who the 1488 01:12:26,066 --> 01:12:29,466 Speaker 1: fuck is this guy? From the theater Press. My wife 1489 01:12:29,586 --> 01:12:31,546 Speaker 1: was like, I'm not walking Please, come on me, please, 1490 01:12:31,706 --> 01:12:34,306 Speaker 1: I'm not walking that. We just got done. We got umbrella. 1491 01:12:34,386 --> 01:12:36,586 Speaker 1: I got an umbrella in my hands. It's so ray. 1492 01:12:36,786 --> 01:12:39,986 Speaker 1: I'm wearing Honestly, I'm wearing a pair of jeans called Goodfellow, 1493 01:12:39,986 --> 01:12:41,866 Speaker 1: which is the jeans you get at Target, but for 1494 01:12:42,026 --> 01:12:45,506 Speaker 1: my size, they're the most comfortable. So I've got Good 1495 01:12:45,586 --> 01:12:48,546 Speaker 1: Fellow jeans, a white T shirt and it ain't a 1496 01:12:48,626 --> 01:12:51,146 Speaker 1: James Person T shirt. We're talking like old navy white 1497 01:12:51,146 --> 01:12:54,346 Speaker 1: T shirt and a blue button down from j Crew 1498 01:12:54,466 --> 01:12:57,906 Speaker 1: that is open button down. And I walked the red carpet, 1499 01:12:57,946 --> 01:12:59,906 Speaker 1: and sure enough, the next day I'm tagged in a 1500 01:12:59,986 --> 01:13:03,706 Speaker 1: million Broadway articles that I walked the red carpet. But 1501 01:13:03,786 --> 01:13:05,906 Speaker 1: like I always say, it's not about me, not about 1502 01:13:05,906 --> 01:13:06,626 Speaker 1: me at all. 1503 01:13:07,426 --> 01:13:10,266 Speaker 3: I mean, you look good. You got a really good smile, 1504 01:13:10,866 --> 01:13:15,426 Speaker 3: and I would never have guessed that you had. Five 1505 01:13:15,466 --> 01:13:17,986 Speaker 3: minutes before this been turned away at the ticket counter, 1506 01:13:18,306 --> 01:13:20,106 Speaker 3: turned it away and told that you did not have 1507 01:13:20,186 --> 01:13:20,626 Speaker 3: a ticket. 1508 01:13:20,946 --> 01:13:22,986 Speaker 1: This is New York City in a nutshell. If you 1509 01:13:22,986 --> 01:13:24,306 Speaker 1: can make it here, you can make it anywhere. I 1510 01:13:24,346 --> 01:13:26,626 Speaker 1: walk off the subway, I'm getting drenched. I got splashed 1511 01:13:26,626 --> 01:13:29,666 Speaker 1: by a taxi. I'm soaking wet. My wife is furious. 1512 01:13:29,746 --> 01:13:31,546 Speaker 1: That she's not furious, but my wife is a little 1513 01:13:31,706 --> 01:13:35,226 Speaker 1: confused that we don't have tickets. After we lugged out 1514 01:13:35,226 --> 01:13:36,866 Speaker 1: in this rainy day and we left our son and 1515 01:13:36,906 --> 01:13:38,826 Speaker 1: our six month old daughter to go see this show. 1516 01:13:39,306 --> 01:13:41,346 Speaker 1: And then within a flash, I'm on the red carpet 1517 01:13:41,386 --> 01:13:44,506 Speaker 1: with Ariannadbos, who was the star of West Side Story 1518 01:13:44,546 --> 01:13:47,426 Speaker 1: and who hosted the Tony's Life Can Happen That fast? 1519 01:13:47,466 --> 01:13:50,866 Speaker 3: Aaron, Yeah, a pair of good New York stories today. 1520 01:13:50,866 --> 01:13:51,786 Speaker 3: I like that a lot. 1521 01:13:51,866 --> 01:13:56,106 Speaker 1: We got it from Jeremy Strong to JB. Smooth to 1522 01:13:56,266 --> 01:14:00,026 Speaker 1: Ariana Debos, and I barely even mentioned the name Taylor 1523 01:14:00,146 --> 01:14:04,426 Speaker 1: Swift Aaron. Thank you to you, the viewers and the listeners. 1524 01:14:04,466 --> 01:14:07,266 Speaker 1: Thank you. We're having fun doing this on behalf of 1525 01:14:07,346 --> 01:14:10,786 Speaker 1: Jason English, who is here with iHeart Jason Kleinman, who 1526 01:14:10,786 --> 01:14:13,386 Speaker 1: works on the amazing social clips and the digital stuff, 1527 01:14:13,666 --> 01:14:17,906 Speaker 1: the folks out west, the people here. Thanks to everybody 1528 01:14:17,906 --> 01:14:20,186 Speaker 1: for listening to the Season with Peter Schrager and of 1529 01:14:20,186 --> 01:14:23,066 Speaker 1: course our guests Jason Light Till next week. 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