1 00:00:01,280 --> 00:00:04,080 Speaker 1: Well, we have a couple of things to talk about today. 2 00:00:04,640 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 1: I mean, first we have to start with our underwhelming 3 00:00:07,840 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 1: feelings about the grap Wow. I mean, god, I thought 4 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 1: last year was bad. Can I tell you something I 5 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:16,960 Speaker 1: don't I said this last week in the podcast, and 6 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:18,920 Speaker 1: I really truly feel this way. I have not been 7 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:21,239 Speaker 1: impressed by an award show in a very long time. 8 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 1: I wonder if it has something. You know, It's funny 9 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 1: because I actually had friends texting me like that they 10 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 1: love certain segments that I thought were just terrible. And 11 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:31,560 Speaker 1: I wonder if some of it has to do with 12 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 1: the fact that, like we're so close to it that 13 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 1: we look at it differently. Um. But yeah, Like I 14 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:43,160 Speaker 1: texted a friend of mine who's a huge Demi Lovato fan, 15 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 1: and you know, I thought she sang the hell out 16 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 1: of that song. And you know, I commend her for 17 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:51,160 Speaker 1: getting up there and singing something emotional, but I thought 18 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 1: the song was terrible. So I wanted to know what 19 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 1: a real fan thought. And I actually really liked Demi Lovato. Um, 20 00:00:58,240 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 1: And so I texted her friend and she was like, 21 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 1: I loved it, the lyrics, the voice, everything, And I'm 22 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 1: just like, really, the lyrics it was seemed so cheesy 23 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 1: and forced to me. But yeah, I think people appreciate 24 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 1: a raw moment, and that's what was happening there. It 25 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 1: could have she came out crying. I feel like been 26 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:17,959 Speaker 1: crying at the end of that song. So you think 27 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:24,760 Speaker 1: it was sage, Okay, I gotta get that glitter and out. Um. 28 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:27,960 Speaker 1: I do think that maybe something that played into our 29 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:31,560 Speaker 1: viewing experience was we were with a group of people. 30 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:33,959 Speaker 1: There were a lot of children running around. I couldn't 31 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 1: really hear that much at the very beginning, so I'm 32 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 1: not sure if that tainted things for us. I also 33 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 1: think that day was a super heavy day with Kobe 34 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 1: Bryant and all of those others passing away on that 35 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 1: helicopter crash. It's just, yeah, I think it had to 36 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 1: be so kind of eerie to be at the Stable 37 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 1: Center room, don't you think. Yeah. I mean, I think 38 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 1: it put a somber tone over the whole thing, which, 39 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 1: then I guess, as of you are made me want 40 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 1: to be lifted a little bit more. And then everyone's 41 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 1: doing these like slow ballads, which are hard on television anyway, 42 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:10,960 Speaker 1: and when you're grappling with like sadness, I guess you know, 43 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 1: a lot of people turn to slow sad things when 44 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 1: they want to like be in their sadness. But I 45 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:19,800 Speaker 1: felt like to make a good TV it needed to 46 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 1: sort of lift everyone up a little bit more. I 47 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 1: just felt slow and draggy, and but that's all obviously 48 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:28,800 Speaker 1: pre planned. I didn't know this fact, but we were 49 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 1: watching last night with another one of our friends who's 50 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 1: in management, and she said, were because someone said something 51 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 1: about do you get to pick the songs that you 52 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 1: want to sing on an award show? And she goes, no, 53 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 1: it's like the award show picks. So actually I feel 54 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:44,800 Speaker 1: like a little bit shame on Grammy's because the show itself, 55 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 1: like the layout, in the performances, in the like the 56 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 1: what do you call that? Order? Wow, I was the 57 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 1: run of show? The run of show? Thank you? Um, 58 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:57,359 Speaker 1: that was very professional on your part. I feel like 59 00:02:57,400 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 1: the run of show is just like a little off, 60 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:02,799 Speaker 1: And I felt like, if you know, I'm no award 61 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 1: show producer, but I feel like I would have started 62 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 1: off talking with a moment of silence and a better 63 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 1: picture of Kobe Bryant than the one that they put up, 64 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 1: Like it was literally the worst photo of him ever, 65 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:15,919 Speaker 1: and then I would have lifted the moment with that 66 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:18,920 Speaker 1: Lizzo performance. I wouldn't have come in hot with Lizzo 67 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 1: and then brought it down, you know, like I just 68 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 1: feel like it should have just been the elephant in 69 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 1: the room. Let's come in, let's you know, put it 70 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 1: out there out there, you know, put our good thoughts 71 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 1: out there for the families that were affected, and and 72 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 1: then try to like lift everyone up. Um. And it 73 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 1: just everything felt really disjointed, and I kind of just 74 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 1: felt so dated, Like there were so many incredible performers 75 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 1: that were nominated this year that could have had life 76 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 1: changing moments like Maggie Rodgers tanking the Bangers. Um, you know, 77 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 1: what's the guy Louis Capaldi like arguably one of the 78 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 1: biggest songs of the year, and he would didn't get 79 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 1: literally sitting here going who right, well, who is that? 80 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 1: He's a Scottish guy for somebody to love. I wish 81 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 1: a little bit like a poor Yeah, but that song 82 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:16,360 Speaker 1: was massive. It's huge, and you know it was performed, 83 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:18,920 Speaker 1: but it was the melody of it was performed to 84 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 1: new lyrics that Alicia Keys sang about show and I 85 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 1: don't know, like I just felt like we didn't need 86 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 1: a Prince tribute. It was just that Bonnie right. Like see, 87 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 1: I loved Bonnie right, I thought she was fantastic. But 88 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 1: what I would have done is I would have had 89 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 1: actually make Bride sing that song and it would have 90 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 1: made it current, It would have made it a nominee 91 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 1: on TV. Um. Yeah, it's it all just felt old 92 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 1: and and one of the things that I think that 93 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 1: the Grammys are struggling with is that they are are 94 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 1: having a hard time getting in younger viewers. And that 95 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 1: certainly didn't I don't think. I don't think. Maybe that's 96 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:59,040 Speaker 1: a little insider baseball, but well, the Grammys used to 97 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:03,479 Speaker 1: be that ah Ord show to me. So Grammy's people, 98 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:06,480 Speaker 1: if you're listening, you can email us at casual at 99 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:11,839 Speaker 1: Velvet's Edge dot com and we'll hook you up for free. Yeah, 100 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 1: all due respect to you guys, But like, I feel 101 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:15,840 Speaker 1: like we have some insight. Well, I look, I get 102 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 1: that there's a lot of they've got a lot of people, 103 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 1: they're trying to please a lot of people. They're trying 104 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:22,599 Speaker 1: to make a great show. There's challenging. I don't think 105 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:25,840 Speaker 1: it's easy, but um, it just needs to be like, 106 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 1: let's lighten it up a little bit, let's make it fun. 107 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 1: When Nick Jonas having something green and his teeth is 108 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:36,040 Speaker 1: the most watable moment of the show, there is an issue. 109 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 1: We called it. I saw it and then we had 110 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 1: that all we were like going back and forth, like, 111 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 1: is it a missing tooth? I thought it was a 112 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:44,039 Speaker 1: gap in his teeth? Yeah, I thought it was. I 113 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 1: definitely thought it was like a piece of salad or something. 114 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 1: And we were like, oh god, this is definitely trending, 115 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 1: and like, while they were still on TV, it was 116 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:54,280 Speaker 1: like trending on Twitter. It was amazing. And then he 117 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:56,280 Speaker 1: did the right thing this morning and admitted it. I 118 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:58,920 Speaker 1: love that he admitted it. It's just make fun of yourself. 119 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 1: You have to just laugh. Um. I read a couple 120 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 1: of funny tweets. It says this This girl Alison says 121 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 1: Nick Jonas had a food in his teeth during his performance, 122 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 1: and I think Joe and Kevin purposely didn't tell him 123 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:14,920 Speaker 1: as payback for breaking up the band. Here to Go Snap. Okay, 124 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 1: this girl another girl says I'm jealous of whatever is 125 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:22,839 Speaker 1: stuck in Nick Jonas's teeth. Who's not girl? That feels 126 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 1: like that feels like I don't know such dirty uh, 127 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 1: Like he seems like such a child. But he's a 128 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 1: man now, is he. I mean, he's still in a 129 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 1: band called the Jonas Brothers. So this girl says, damn, 130 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:41,600 Speaker 1: Nick Jonas Brothers did him dirty for not telling him 131 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 1: he had an entire salad stuck in his teeth during 132 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:47,719 Speaker 1: his performance at the Grammys. Wait so as as a 133 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:51,479 Speaker 1: as someone who like looks at dudes before they're going 134 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 1: on stage as a job, like, do you ever say 135 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:57,280 Speaker 1: let me see your teeth? Absolutely, especially like Dirk's is 136 00:06:57,360 --> 00:06:59,920 Speaker 1: notorious for picking up food right before he goes on 137 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:02,280 Speaker 1: stage and stresses me out every time because I'm like, 138 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 1: if one cronk gets stuck in his beard, you know 139 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 1: it's just whatever. So every time he does it, I 140 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 1: stand there like a hawk watching him eat, and then 141 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 1: when he's done chewing, I finally go, let me see 142 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 1: your teeth, you like, get out your dental flaws. There 143 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 1: was one time this was with Bobby this year when 144 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 1: we were filming Idle. He got something stuck in his teeth. 145 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 1: I didn't have any flaws in my little kit bag, 146 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 1: and I couldn't make it back so I had to 147 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 1: give him a fork to start, Like somehow I found 148 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 1: a plastic fork, and I'm like having him dig in 149 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:34,240 Speaker 1: his tooth holding up an iPhone camera so he can 150 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 1: see himself. Yeah, it's a thing, you know, a trick 151 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 1: that I use. I take a straw. Oh yeah, that's 152 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 1: or a staple. Oh, a staple. I didn't have any 153 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 1: staples on hand, but you know the next time. You 154 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 1: know what's funny is I always end up having like 155 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 1: a like something from a meeting that's been staple. Oh look, 156 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 1: there's a staple. What if I start carrying staples in 157 00:07:56,000 --> 00:08:00,520 Speaker 1: my kid? People are like, why do you need that? Exactly? Um. Yeah, 158 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 1: but that was a big moment to see Nick Jonas 159 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 1: at the food in the seat. I'm actually glad that 160 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 1: he made a joke about it. He tweet. He tweeted 161 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 1: something along the lines of like, at least you know 162 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 1: I eat my greens. Yeah, it's like the best way 163 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 1: to admit it. And oh my god, what else are 164 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:16,600 Speaker 1: you gonna do? You can't go back and like reshoot it. 165 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 1: Absolutely not. The show must go on, which is sort 166 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 1: of what we want to talk about today because these 167 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 1: are very at casual moments. I feel like he handled 168 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 1: it very casually and very well. He just tweeted about it, 169 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 1: make a joke. I'm sure his groomer is like hopefully 170 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 1: looking for a new job. Um, what is your top? 171 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 1: Do you have, like a top moment where you've seen 172 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 1: someone actually just like keep going or the show must 173 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:45,720 Speaker 1: go on momning I was, I was in the room, 174 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:48,719 Speaker 1: or like just maybe your favorite whichever way you want 175 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:51,319 Speaker 1: to make feel like the best one is when Fergie 176 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 1: peter pants. I'm so happy you brought this up. God 177 00:08:56,840 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 1: bless her. I mean, pete her pants. When you gotta go, 178 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 1: you gotta go. Yeah, I mean I don't like I 179 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 1: feel like she handled it pretty casually, like she was 180 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:08,560 Speaker 1: very at least she was very casual about the fact 181 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 1: that she paid her pants. Like does this happen to you? 182 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 1: Do you get stage right though? Like about peeing, Like 183 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 1: sometimes if I'm peeing and too many people are right 184 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 1: in the room next door, the bathroom or something, and 185 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:20,840 Speaker 1: I feel like people can hear me, I can't even 186 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 1: pee then no matter how bad I have to pee, 187 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:26,720 Speaker 1: I don't. That doesn't happen to me. But when I do, 188 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 1: whenever I'm having to, like go on stage or do 189 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 1: something like and I'm not on stage, how often are 190 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:36,800 Speaker 1: you want to or like just speak in front of 191 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 1: a room? And often, but like I get one of 192 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:43,560 Speaker 1: my things that like when my nerves go up, you 193 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:46,839 Speaker 1: have yes, and but then I also have to drink 194 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 1: water and then I have to pee and it's like 195 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 1: even though I don't have to pee, it's it's something 196 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:56,560 Speaker 1: that's an anxiety thing. And um, but you know, doing 197 00:09:56,600 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 1: a little bit of research about her peepe gate happening 198 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:02,439 Speaker 1: two thousand five in San Diego, and apparently they were 199 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 1: like really late for a contint when she was still 200 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:06,079 Speaker 1: in the Black Eyed Peas Black Eyes in the Black 201 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 1: Eyed Peace, and they were late and try it was 202 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:11,440 Speaker 1: a traffic issue, so like there was no they had 203 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 1: to be late because there was no way to get 204 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:15,320 Speaker 1: them there, and she didn't speak up and say that 205 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:16,680 Speaker 1: she had to pee, and then when they got to 206 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:19,840 Speaker 1: the venue, they were rushed or right on stage and 207 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:22,720 Speaker 1: the first she peter her pants during the first song. 208 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:24,679 Speaker 1: And then if you google it, I mean you can 209 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 1: still find these images. There's a huge wet spot and 210 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 1: it's very obvious what it is because of where it 211 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:33,319 Speaker 1: is on her pain yeah, like they're definitely like people 212 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:36,679 Speaker 1: will sweat in their crotches um during some of those 213 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 1: I mean sweating like that in your first song, then 214 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:44,560 Speaker 1: you might want to see a doctor. But yeah, sometimes 215 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:47,959 Speaker 1: people sweating their crotches as are really loose. Like I 216 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 1: could see that maybe if you were wearing something really tight. 217 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:53,440 Speaker 1: But that was definitely paid. She was no hiding that. 218 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 1: I read that. To try to cover it up, she 219 00:10:56,880 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 1: took a bottle of champagne and like poured it all 220 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 1: over her body. Can you imagine you're standing there with 221 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 1: wet pants and you're trying to be sexual so gross, 222 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 1: like trying to make it ruining with some champagne. It started, Okay, 223 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:16,640 Speaker 1: you want to be my favorite, let's go one moment. 224 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:19,000 Speaker 1: I don't actually know if the show went still went 225 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 1: on though, what is it? Ashley Simpson on s n 226 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 1: L do you remember this? I mean, her career kind 227 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:27,440 Speaker 1: of didn't go on. That's a very valid point. She 228 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:29,720 Speaker 1: did put on another record after that that was really good. 229 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 1: But I digress. Okay, I actually, do you want to 230 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:34,439 Speaker 1: talk about Ashson sins music for a second? And I 231 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 1: don't know what this is going to make people think 232 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 1: about me, but I liked that first record back in 233 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 1: the day. Remember pieces of Me was the way she 234 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 1: said pieces paces kind of sounds like share a little bit. Yeah, 235 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 1: I really appreciated that song. I thought that was a 236 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 1: great song. I mean it was a massive, massive hit too. Well. 237 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:57,560 Speaker 1: So what happened on s n L if you don't know, 238 00:11:57,720 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 1: is she was performing her massive hit, Pieces of Me, 239 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:02,560 Speaker 1: and she did that song first. Do you remember. So 240 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:05,319 Speaker 1: it's like one of those situations on Saturday Night Live 241 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:08,559 Speaker 1: where they have them the music performance or the music 242 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 1: performance performed twice. So she did Piece of Me, went 243 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 1: off without a hitch, it was great. They bring her 244 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:20,440 Speaker 1: back for the second song and um, the track four 245 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:23,559 Speaker 1: Pieces of Me started playing with her vocals, with her 246 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:26,559 Speaker 1: like a full vocal, full vocal. And look, there's a 247 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:29,560 Speaker 1: lot of artists that will have background vocal tracks or 248 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:32,720 Speaker 1: like other instruments that they you know, don't have the 249 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:36,199 Speaker 1: musician on hand to play like tracks happen. It's not. 250 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:40,319 Speaker 1: Tracks are pretty common, I mean, especially with live performances 251 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:44,080 Speaker 1: like that, but to have a full vocal is kind 252 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:48,080 Speaker 1: of cheating, right, that's called lip singing. And then she 253 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 1: like did a hold album. Okay, that was the part 254 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 1: that maybe this wasn't the most at casual moment because 255 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 1: she then starts to do this like super awkward jig, 256 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 1: that's what I would call. I mean, she looked like 257 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:02,880 Speaker 1: she was at a hotel. Yeah, it truly was, but 258 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 1: she's kind of lanky, and so then it just made 259 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:07,199 Speaker 1: it even worse. And then she ran off the ran 260 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 1: off stage. There's nothing less acting casual than just running 261 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:14,560 Speaker 1: off stage and a jig when it out. What she 262 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:17,920 Speaker 1: should have started doing was singing pieces of Me. So 263 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:21,160 Speaker 1: it looked like she just messed up the song. She 264 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:24,079 Speaker 1: was like, I'm just gonna do a repeats like this 265 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 1: so much that I'll just do it on time. Here 266 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 1: we go again, Here we go round two. Yeah, that 267 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 1: was super awkward. But I mean she did go back 268 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 1: a year later and make fun of herself on S 269 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 1: and L, so I mean, I guess that's that's kind 270 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:41,600 Speaker 1: of the key to any of it. It was pretty 271 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:44,920 Speaker 1: bad for her. I mean, I think it did kind 272 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 1: of ruin her music career. She was because I mean, 273 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:50,200 Speaker 1: she was literally on top of the world. And the 274 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 1: funny thing was was she had a bigger hit than 275 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:57,880 Speaker 1: Jessica ever had, Like that song was much bigger than 276 00:13:57,880 --> 00:13:59,840 Speaker 1: any song that Jessica had ever had, So she was 277 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:05,560 Speaker 1: sort of usurping her sister because she was seemingly, to me, 278 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:12,000 Speaker 1: the more creative, artsy, maybe musical one. Jessica. I guess 279 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:14,440 Speaker 1: she had a big voice. Yea, she was more of 280 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:16,800 Speaker 1: just like I think she was thought of more of 281 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 1: a just a singer, whereas I think jes Ashley was. 282 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 1: And then the follow up album was actually quite hardy, 283 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 1: the new nose, a new chin, and came back all artistic. 284 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 1: She's like here, I am fantastic. I want to know 285 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 1: who did her work. I know, I mean to take 286 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 1: a great nose job, but um yeah, they kind of 287 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 1: fall apart her even though I really liked that other 288 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 1: song with the love song, Remember it was like remember 289 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 1: something like la la la la oh that was on 290 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 1: the second record. I think, I mean she tried to 291 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:51,320 Speaker 1: make her comback. She also tried a reality show last 292 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 1: year and I don't think it worked either. That was 293 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 1: her second reality show, because she had one with Ryan Cabrera. 294 00:14:57,040 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 1: To remember that. I watched that one. I worked at 295 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 1: the LA when we signed Ryan Cabrera on the heels 296 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:05,520 Speaker 1: of that show. Yeah, wow, he looks a little bit 297 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 1: like a hedgehog to me a little bit. It's funny. 298 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 1: My old my my friend Brittany, she and I have 299 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:16,400 Speaker 1: this thing like where Ryan Cabrera is that person that 300 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 1: follows us. Like we will be in random places and 301 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 1: we'll look over and be like, we'll be in like 302 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 1: New Jersey. Oh my god, there's Ryan Cabrera. Like it's 303 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 1: so and like and now like if now she she 304 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 1: still lives in l a And I'm in Nashville, and 305 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 1: but if one of us sees Ryan Cabrera, or like 306 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 1: I was in Um, I stopped at my old colleges, 307 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:41,920 Speaker 1: my college's bookstore when I was driving through Virginia once 308 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 1: and they were still selling a Ryan Cabrera poster. And 309 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 1: this is like in two thousand nineteen. I was driving 310 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 1: through and I of course I told her I was 311 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:53,480 Speaker 1: gonna buy it for and send it to her. It's 312 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 1: like the six Degrees of Separation. But with Ryan Cabrera, 313 00:15:56,880 --> 00:16:04,600 Speaker 1: he's like Mike Kevin Bacon, Oh my god, over singing 314 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 1: Kevin Bacon. Now thank you for that to chip to 315 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:12,440 Speaker 1: student awkward jigs trying to walk off, dropped the mic. 316 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 1: So any other moments for you? Well, I mean this 317 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 1: one kind of did stop the show what I'm Booby 318 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 1: Gate when Janet Jackson. Do you think that that was 319 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 1: I don't think it was an accident. Well let's set 320 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 1: it up because some of these listeners might might be 321 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 1: too young to remember. But it was Super Bowl. I 322 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 1: don't remember what ear super Bowl, no clue, I'm not 323 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 1: I don't watch sports ball anyway. But um, she was 324 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 1: performing with Justin Timberlake and probably early two thousands, as 325 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:49,280 Speaker 1: if I had to Rock Your Body was the song 326 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 1: I want to rock Yours right, okay? And then at 327 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 1: the last line of the song is I'm an have 328 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 1: your neck it at the end of this song and 329 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:01,480 Speaker 1: he pulls her shirt and her boob pops out. But 330 00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 1: she did have on a page and there was a 331 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:06,679 Speaker 1: big sun pasty. I was going to say star, but 332 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 1: was a star? It might have been a star. I 333 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 1: don't remember, not to get too specific, but it was 334 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 1: something from the galaxies. And I think she got fined. 335 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 1: Oh there was a huge fine. CBS got fined over 336 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 1: half a million dollars, which is I think that she 337 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:27,720 Speaker 1: was She's barred from like live TV performances or something. 338 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:31,479 Speaker 1: I don't know. I think she was for a while. Really, 339 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:37,160 Speaker 1: I don't think that Justin Timberlake that from big bullshit 340 00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 1: right there to me, because not to get all to 341 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 1: like women empowerment or whatever, but like Janet got the 342 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:48,159 Speaker 1: brunt of that. Like, let's not mistake Justin ripped her shirt. 343 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 1: He's even been back to the Super Bowl sent and 344 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:54,240 Speaker 1: she has not been invited back. I just don't think 345 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:59,680 Speaker 1: that's fair. And Janet is like an iconic American art Yeah, 346 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 1: she's the Jackson Jackson. She's like the Jackson now, I mean, 347 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:09,600 Speaker 1: well that was no. I mean, yes she is, though, 348 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:11,680 Speaker 1: but like I didn't know she's not. Now that I 349 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:13,120 Speaker 1: think about it, I'm like, when is the last time 350 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:15,720 Speaker 1: us all do a live performance? Yeah, I mean she 351 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:18,520 Speaker 1: I don't think she's been nearly as I mean, that 352 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:20,199 Speaker 1: might have been sort of at the tail end of 353 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:26,200 Speaker 1: like her like, but that could also have been probably. Yeah, 354 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:30,240 Speaker 1: that's terrible to me because his career has skyrocketed since. 355 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 1: I mean rightfully, so he's super talented. But let's just 356 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:36,800 Speaker 1: not put it all on Janet here and well, and 357 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:39,479 Speaker 1: like honestly, like I feel like she was pretty casual 358 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:43,720 Speaker 1: about it. Well, she did make this face like there 359 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:46,719 Speaker 1: was like a shocked face. I remember watching that live 360 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:48,639 Speaker 1: and be like, oh my god, did her nipple just 361 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:52,800 Speaker 1: come out? I remember it and like, at the moment, 362 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:55,720 Speaker 1: I thought it was a wardrobe malfunction, which is what 363 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:59,280 Speaker 1: they later claim. But I think that it was like 364 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 1: shock fact after you know, let's like, let's really go 365 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:07,640 Speaker 1: out with a bang. I mean, it wasn't wardrobe malfunction, coined. 366 00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:09,960 Speaker 1: I think that was. I feel that was the birth 367 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:13,439 Speaker 1: of the wardrobe malfunction nipplegate. I mean, there's a lot 368 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 1: of things I heard it called. I mean, come on, 369 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:20,200 Speaker 1: it is a nipple, right, I mean I've seen girls 370 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 1: in bathing suits that show more than that. Well, I 371 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 1: think the point is is the super Bowl is the 372 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:28,480 Speaker 1: biggest what I mean, the numbers are probably like the 373 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:33,480 Speaker 1: highest rated of anything else family, and it's a ton 374 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:36,440 Speaker 1: of ton of kids, a ton of young boys specifically. 375 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:40,520 Speaker 1: That's pretty scarring. I mean they probably loved it, but like, 376 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:44,880 Speaker 1: you know, that's not really the right audience for that. Yeah, 377 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:47,280 Speaker 1: you're right, but I don't think it's all in Janet 378 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:49,280 Speaker 1: eitherre No, it definitely shouldn't have been all in Janet. 379 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 1: I don't think there was any jokes made after that 380 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 1: one like to try to redeem themselves. Yeah, it was 381 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 1: probably was that pre twitter. Oh my god, I don't 382 00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 1: know what You're making me feel like we're so ancients 383 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:03,400 Speaker 1: the way you're describing this whole scenario, like for those 384 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 1: listening that are too young to remember them. Actuley Simpson 385 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:12,960 Speaker 1: thing was pre twitter? Wow, because if I were her. Okay, 386 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:15,760 Speaker 1: let's play a little game. If you were actually Simpson, 387 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:18,280 Speaker 1: what kind of Jeff would you have tweeted out the 388 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:20,560 Speaker 1: next day? I call him gifts, you call him Jeff's. 389 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:23,520 Speaker 1: I think it's technically Jeff, is it I think of Jeff? 390 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:26,800 Speaker 1: Isn't peanut butter with the j Okay? What would I 391 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:28,639 Speaker 1: have tweeted out the next day? What would you have 392 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:30,720 Speaker 1: tweeted if you were actually Simpson? You would have to 393 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:34,159 Speaker 1: do something about lip singing? Is it lip singing or 394 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 1: lip sinking? I think it's lips sinking. Shoot, we're both illiterate, 395 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:43,400 Speaker 1: but we love to talk. I on the cough the cup, 396 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:46,200 Speaker 1: can't think of anything, of course, because you just put 397 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:48,160 Speaker 1: the spilet on me. I really would just rather pee 398 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 1: my pants right now. I think I would do like 399 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:58,479 Speaker 1: a river dance Jeff me lest I don't or just 400 00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:01,520 Speaker 1: like dropping the mic. I mean, she that's kind of 401 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:04,920 Speaker 1: what she did, just literally ran off or I would well, 402 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 1: I guess actually happened before. But I think the best 403 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:11,200 Speaker 1: at casual like response now is just a tweeter picture 404 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 1: of tweeter pictures of Fergie being sorry. I always think 405 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:24,400 Speaker 1: about if you're a girl on stage, if you got 406 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:29,480 Speaker 1: your period duringer show, that would be sots right, because 407 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 1: like when you think back to like elementary school, like 408 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:35,680 Speaker 1: the first girl that that happens to, like she's forever, 409 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:40,040 Speaker 1: the girl who bled throw. I mean, it's kids are 410 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:43,720 Speaker 1: so cruel, the girl who bled through. We had a 411 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 1: girl that we called hot Dog. Oh God, tell us more, please, 412 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:49,720 Speaker 1: we digress. But I referenced her in a text to 413 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:51,639 Speaker 1: one of my best friends from high school last night, 414 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 1: and she said, you know, the older I get, the 415 00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:56,320 Speaker 1: more I realized that every school has a hot dog girl. 416 00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:58,639 Speaker 1: Why did you guys call her hot? Well, you can 417 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:01,240 Speaker 1: use your imagination. We don't need to put a parental 418 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 1: advisory on this. Actually, you're gonna have to tell me 419 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:06,680 Speaker 1: after I guess yeah, I'll fill you in. What is 420 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:09,879 Speaker 1: your imaginations? Listeners, So every what's your point to this 421 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 1: story now? Because you're not kids are kids are cruel 422 00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 1: and like, even if some girl didn't bleed through, like 423 00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 1: someone's getting like pegged as the girl who Yeah, like 424 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:24,399 Speaker 1: you just don't want to every girl certain period at 425 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 1: a certain age, So you don't want to be the 426 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:29,000 Speaker 1: girl who bleeds through. Right. Yeah, We've talked about this 427 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:31,119 Speaker 1: on another episode because I told you about when I 428 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:33,200 Speaker 1: used to play basketball and I would wear two tampons. 429 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:37,120 Speaker 1: I'm still one of my favorite jokes to be like, hey, 430 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 1: you played through, So mean to do to any girl, 431 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:43,520 Speaker 1: because you know, I'll be like, oh my god, really, 432 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:46,960 Speaker 1: I mean, nobody can trust me. It's you know, it's 433 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:48,280 Speaker 1: a joke, and I'm gonna turn around and be like, 434 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:53,159 Speaker 1: I'm not on my period, you know. Okay, Well, I 435 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:55,359 Speaker 1: think the whole point of this is the show has 436 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:58,840 Speaker 1: to go on. So make a joke, do a chick, 437 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:01,920 Speaker 1: but don't run up to stay age. Don't do a jig. 438 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:04,760 Speaker 1: Actually just own it. And i mean, look, all of 439 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:09,199 Speaker 1: these things that we've brought up have happened to people. 440 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 1: It's just not the camera's not always on them. I mean, truly, 441 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 1: he shouldn't and Nick Jonas shouldn't be that embarrassed about 442 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 1: the thing that it was in his teeth because did 443 00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:24,639 Speaker 1: you see his outfit? So versafe, Okay, we gotta go 444 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 1: before we both lose our jobs. 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