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Speaker 1: So like we're looking at all options, whether whethers the blitz,

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Speaker 1: one year? Hey, Pat, what's up? Hey? You're looking good? Um?

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Speaker 1: I was wondering what was your thought process during the draft? Um,

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Speaker 1: Here's my thing. A lot of those are our things.

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