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Speaker 1: Hello, Hey, who's this.

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Speaker 2: My name is Sierra. I'm from Maine.

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Speaker 1: Sierra from Maine. What's going on?

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Speaker 2: Not much? I'm chilling here watching you on Xbox.

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Speaker 1: That's cool. Well, Sierra from Maine. What do you want

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Speaker 1: to talk about today?

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Speaker 2: As you saw, my mom's kind of known as the

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Speaker 2: family whore.

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Speaker 1: You're just gonna say that and then stop talking.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, I've never so, yeah, I guess you

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Speaker 2: could say my mom's the family whore. And I say

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Speaker 2: that in the most polite way possible, if that is possible.

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Speaker 2: She has slept with numerous members of my family. I

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Speaker 2: have half brothers and half cousins.

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Speaker 1: Due to this, Like she's in bread, like she's slept,

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Speaker 1: like she's committed incest.

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Speaker 2: No, it's not incest at all. Actually, she slept with

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Speaker 2: my dad's uncle.

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Speaker 1: Okay, is your dad's uncle, So she's uh so, so

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Speaker 1: she's she slept. Yeah, she slept with your dad's uncle.

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Speaker 1: Oh that's crazy. Yeah, that's pretty crazy. What's your relationship

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Speaker 1: with her?

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Speaker 2: Like it's been on and awful lot. Right now we're on.

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Speaker 2: She is an addict. She's two completely different people. When

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Speaker 2: she is in youth, are not in use?

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Speaker 1: Mm hm. And how old are you see Erra from Maine?

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Speaker 2: I am twenty two.

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Speaker 1: Okay, and now uh uh used to you and your

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Speaker 1: mom are on? Now what makes you guys?

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Speaker 3: On?

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Speaker 1: What? What was it the transition to the off to

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Speaker 1: the on?

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Speaker 3: Uh?

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Speaker 2: She drunk called me after not talking to her for

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Speaker 2: six months. Actually, she drunk called my fiance saying that

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Speaker 2: she needs my support to help her get back to

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Speaker 2: sobriety and that she has breast cancer. But she lied

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Speaker 2: about the breast cancer. But I think she did that

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Speaker 2: because she knew that I wasn't going to talk to

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Speaker 2: her unless it was an urgent thing.

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Speaker 1: And it says here that she tried to sleep with

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Speaker 1: your fiance.

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Speaker 2: Yes, that is originally why I stopped talking to her

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Speaker 2: before she called me or called my fiance and tried

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Speaker 2: to say she had breast cancer.

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Speaker 1: Okay, And so what is it that made you decide

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Speaker 1: you wanted to let her back into your life?

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Speaker 2: I mean, like I said, they've always been kind of

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Speaker 2: in and out of sobriety. And I think one of

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Speaker 2: the biggest life lessons I've learned overall, being as young

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Speaker 2: And I got to say, when my parents are sober,

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Speaker 2: they are amazing people and I really enjoy their company

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Speaker 2: when they're cool.

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Speaker 1: And how often are they cool these days?

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Speaker 2: I'd say it's on a two year loop, maybe a one.

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Speaker 3: To two year loop.

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Speaker 1: Once to your loop meaning what is a loop is bad?

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Speaker 1: What does that mean?

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Speaker 2: Like kind of like yeah, I'd say like every other

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Speaker 2: or maybe every two years they're not sober, and then

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Speaker 2: maybe for one year, a happy year, they're sober.

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Speaker 1: Are they sober now?

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Speaker 2: Ah? No, they were for a little bit and then

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Speaker 2: I think they thought they were hiding it from me.

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Speaker 2: But they're not very sneaky people, and I know that

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Speaker 2: they're drinking, and they've been a little more transparent with

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Speaker 2: fact that all I want from them is transparency, so

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Speaker 2: that if they are going to use I just want

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Speaker 2: them to be healthy and responsible people about it.

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Speaker 1: And are you or are they still together even after

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Speaker 1: all the uncle fucking.

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Speaker 2: Surprisingly, Yes, my dad is the biggest simp in the world.

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Speaker 1: I'm so excited to title this episode my Mom's a

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Speaker 1: whore and my dad is a simp.

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Speaker 2: It's the most catchy title in the world.

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Speaker 1: No, I'm probably not going to do that. Why is

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Speaker 1: your dad a simp? Tell you more?

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Speaker 2: Well, my dad he's just so incredibly in love with her.

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Speaker 2: She is kind of out of league, look spied. Maybe

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Speaker 2: not mentally, but he's it's just a short balled ginger

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Speaker 2: And she's pretty.

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Speaker 1: So well, that's cool that she's pretty. Who's who is

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Speaker 1: is that your fiance who's ragging on your dad?

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Speaker 3: Is?

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Speaker 1: What is that your fiance in the background? I it

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Speaker 2: Oh yes, yes, this is my fiance.

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Speaker 1: Okay, let me talk to him.

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Speaker 4: Okay, okay, what O get?

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Speaker 1: Hey? Man, So your girlfriend's mom tried to have sex

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean she was drunk and like a girlfriend's

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Speaker 4: like godfather told me, like, don't feel special because like

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Speaker 4: everybody's been there.

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Speaker 1: What did she say to you? Exactly?

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Speaker 3: So she she called up.

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Speaker 4: I guess they were at like a bar and they

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Speaker 4: were ship days and they were like being like belligerent

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Speaker 4: calling us going there at a bar, they don't know

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Speaker 4: what the fuck they are. And then she called and

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Speaker 4: and and my fiancee was was being a little hysterical.

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Speaker 4: So I was like, let me take the phone off.

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Speaker 4: I'm more calm, I can handle it, right. So I

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Speaker 4: took the phone. I'm like YO, like, no, I'm not

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Speaker 4: a named is. I'm like, yo, like what's up? How

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Speaker 4: you doing? And she goes, she goes, I'm doing a

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Speaker 4: lot better now I'm talking to you. I was like,

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Speaker 4: what do you whoa what do you mean? Then she

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Speaker 4: was talking about having me like pick her up, and

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Speaker 4: it was very like, uh, it was a vibe there

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Speaker 4: for sure, and it was like on speakerphone. And then

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Speaker 4: so I drunk, drove not good but.

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Speaker 1: Sorry, finish your story.

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Speaker 4: No, you're good, You're good. You're good, bro.

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Speaker 3: No.

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Speaker 4: So like I'm like shithouse and I'm like, She's like,

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Speaker 4: you have to go pick up my sister. I don't

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Speaker 4: like it being in that environment. So I'm like all right,

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Speaker 4: So I went. It's like a forty minute drive. I

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Speaker 1: Like wait, hold on, wait what your fiance is like, Hey,

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Speaker 1: my sister's not safe? Can you drunk drive forty five

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Speaker 4: She was drunk too, but yeah, like exact, and that's that.

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Speaker 3: Was my point.

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Speaker 1: But I was like, I don't know if I don't

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Speaker 4: But continue, I'm a pretty good drunk driver, all right,

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Speaker 4: get like, yeah, okay, I get it, but I'm good

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Speaker 4: Like she gave me like the longest like crotch in

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Speaker 3: Documented, you know, like.

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Speaker 4: Like nothing in private.

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Speaker 1: So I was like, fuck, okay, so what did you

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Speaker 1: do after that? Did you drive your sister back home?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: And her dad and the dad is just watching his

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Speaker 4: So thank god he was asleep. I guess he was

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Speaker 4: so drunk, but he passed out on my drive out,

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Speaker 4: on my long ass drive over because I was. I

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Speaker 4: I'm kind of down for but I was like, I

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Speaker 4: really don't know if I want to get into that

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Speaker 4: but then I just got hit on by like.

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Speaker 3: An old lady.

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Speaker 4: So it's like bed and the alternative, I guess.

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Speaker 1: All right, So what's your relationship like with them?

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Speaker 3: Now?

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Speaker 4: I'm cool with them. It was a little locker with

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Speaker 4: by the whole thing, like realistically, but uh, but my

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Speaker 1: Yeah, your fiance not as flattered.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so now between me and her mom was exactly

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Speaker 4: he didn't happen. Her dad like, I think he's used

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Speaker 4: to it rough for him, but yeah, it couldn't be me.

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Speaker 1: All right, let me talk to her again. All right, Hey, dude, Hey,

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Speaker 1: what's up?

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Speaker 2: You know? Talking to you listening to my fiance.

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Speaker 1: So let's see, You're mom is a whore and your

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Speaker 1: dad is a simp.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, they are.

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Speaker 1: Why do you think they're like that?

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Speaker 2: I think they got together at a very young age.

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Speaker 2: I think they had a lot of baggage and a

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Speaker 2: I think there was a lot of drugs and alcohol involved,

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Speaker 4: Aka me.

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Speaker 2: And he just rolled with it.

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Speaker 2: I gotta say, despite all the ups and downs in

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Speaker 2: their relationships, they are always the best of friends. Whether

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Speaker 1: Aren't together, well, that's wholesome.

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Speaker 2: In a weird way.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: If I would fuck my friend's.

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Speaker 2: Uncle, I definitely would not personally, and if I were

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Speaker 2: my dad in that situation, I would leave her. I've

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Speaker 2: told him multiple times, you you could probably do better,

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Speaker 2: but it's your choice.

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Speaker 1: How long are they been together for?

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Speaker 2: Oh gosh, I'm not even sure. I think close to

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Speaker 2: thirty years.

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Speaker 1: Thirty years.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's oh, well, at.

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Speaker 1: This point, this is I mean, at this point it's

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Speaker 1: an open relationship after thirty years.

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Speaker 2: The thing is they they I think there's a lot

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Speaker 2: of confusion in the relationship because I think it's so

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Speaker 2: my parents. They originally they met together on a military base.

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Speaker 2: My dad was supposed to be a wingman for one

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Speaker 2: of his friends and then he got stranded at the

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Speaker 2: and then they she finds owned him for nine months.

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Speaker 2: He finally asked her out. He was switching basses, so

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Speaker 2: he told her if she wanted to come with him,

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Speaker 2: they had to get married. So they dated for like

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Speaker 2: maybe five minutes and then got married.

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Speaker 1: but it lasted well, I guess it kind of lasted

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Speaker 1: thirty years.

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Speaker 2: It definitely hasn't floded a handful of times.

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Speaker 1: That's crazy. That's really crazy.

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Speaker 1: And how about the the peeing in a cup.

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Speaker 2: My mom's very open minded to it, and she's willing

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Speaker 2: I accepted as it is, yet to pay the cup.

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Speaker 1: No jizzing in the cup, that's not the right.

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Speaker 2: Also, when my mom called me about or well, called

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Speaker 1: this episode just you telling stories of here moham fucking

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Speaker 1: Is the guy I was talking to? Is that the

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Speaker 2: Yes, we've been together for five years now.

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Speaker 1: Well it worked out there, we go. See. You know,

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Speaker 2: Oh he too, very much.

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Speaker 1: I hope he becomes I hope, and I hope at

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Speaker 2: It is already a ball blue light. She's the light

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Speaker 1: That's very nice. That's a nice That's a nice thing

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Speaker 2: Trust your instincts, and if your parents are pieces of ship,

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Speaker 2: for the love. We love you.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, guys.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, fuck the yellow line from Boston. We saw you.

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Speaker 1: Oh you are yes, I do remember that. Oh you

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Do you remember the guy with food tattoos at all?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we pictures with you. You stopped him and told

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Speaker 2: Fair enough, fair enough when when you're celebrity like you,

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Speaker 2: are you coming back?

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Speaker 1: I'm coming to Boston soon.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, of course, we're obsessed with you.

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Speaker 1: Sweet awesome, Thank you guys.

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Speaker 2: Don't bring the baby, we don't plan on it. We

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Speaker 1: Maybe bring the mom Oh maybe no, I mean, well,

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Speaker 2: You on with her. My family's insanely open with each other,

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Speaker 1: guys very much. I wish you both the happy life

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Speaker 2: We love you, We love you.

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Speaker 1: Bye guys, get bless ye Hey folks, this is Lyle.

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Speaker 1: I am very excited to announce that I am going

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Speaker 3: What's going on?

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Speaker 1: Do you have a child? To hear a child in

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Speaker 3: I went to ask for a raise the other day.

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00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:48,800
Speaker 3: Lo and behold, they told me that I guess I'm

446
00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:51,160
Speaker 3: not doing my job very good and they can't give

447
00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:53,640
Speaker 3: me a raise, even though you know, in my mind

448
00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:57,879
Speaker 3: I'm doing a great job. So it's very confused. But

449
00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:02,520
Speaker 3: now I'm just, you know, I don't know what to do.

450
00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:05,520
Speaker 3: Do I look for a new job or do I

451
00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:07,920
Speaker 3: just stick it out here because it's hard to find

452
00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:11,520
Speaker 3: a job with a felony that pays decent.

453
00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:18,320
Speaker 1: A little bit lost? And did the job deny you

454
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:20,800
Speaker 1: a raise because you robbed the dairy queen?

455
00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:28,000
Speaker 3: No? No, they they knew about my felony when they

456
00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:30,640
Speaker 3: hired me, and they said, you know that they give

457
00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:35,639
Speaker 3: people second chances. But I've been the manager at the

458
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:39,159
Speaker 3: grocery store now for two and a half years, and

459
00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:41,880
Speaker 3: I just feel like I deserve a raise. I'm doing

460
00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:44,600
Speaker 3: a good job, but they don't want to give me one.

461
00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:47,000
Speaker 3: I got my family to support, so I.

462
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:49,040
Speaker 1: Feel like there's definitely going to be I feel like

463
00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:52,160
Speaker 1: there's definitely going to be a mission in Grand Theft

464
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:54,840
Speaker 1: Auto six where you rob a dairy queen, and then

465
00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:57,160
Speaker 1: everyone's going to start thinking that that's cool and it'll

466
00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:58,720
Speaker 1: probably be easier for you to get a job.

467
00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:03,879
Speaker 3: Then that's true. I can see that.

468
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:06,520
Speaker 1: I before we get into a problem, I do have

469
00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:12,960
Speaker 1: a couple questions. Well, how old are you? I'm twenty eight, Okay,

470
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:13,840
Speaker 1: oh so you're eighteen.

471
00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:18,120
Speaker 3: Yeah I was. I was eighteen and when I did it,

472
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:24,320
Speaker 3: I was on probation for a battery charge. Okay, it

473
00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:25,440
Speaker 3: just wasn't good.

474
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:29,119
Speaker 1: I really, I just have to ask, and I know

475
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:31,359
Speaker 1: that for a lot of things, and I have things

476
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:33,440
Speaker 1: like this in my life that I just can't explain

477
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:37,080
Speaker 1: why my brain was at a place at that time.

478
00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:42,480
Speaker 1: Why a dairy queen, Because how much money There's got

479
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:47,440
Speaker 1: to be less than two thousand dollars in existing in

480
00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:52,280
Speaker 1: total in any given dairy queen in the United States.

481
00:27:53,680 --> 00:28:00,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, So it all started when one of my friends

482
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:04,720
Speaker 3: he was gonna throw this party and he needed money.

483
00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:07,360
Speaker 3: You know, we needed money for some you know, drugs

484
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:11,640
Speaker 3: and alcohol and everything to this party. And this other

485
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:14,960
Speaker 3: guy was like, hey, I used to work at the

486
00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:18,600
Speaker 3: dairy queen and I know when they take you know,

487
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:23,119
Speaker 3: the money bags to the to the bank. So you know,

488
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:26,639
Speaker 3: we waited outside and then I don't know, probably around

489
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:30,119
Speaker 3: like eight o'clock and night. You know, the dude was

490
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:32,040
Speaker 3: walking to his car at the money bags and we

491
00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:34,359
Speaker 3: jumped out and I ripped him out of his hand

492
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:42,040
Speaker 3: and started running. And you know, normally you would think

493
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:45,680
Speaker 3: someone would just it was a small town, you know,

494
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:48,560
Speaker 3: so you know, I would just normally think that someone

495
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:51,360
Speaker 3: would just call the cops, you know, and report what happened.

496
00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:54,880
Speaker 3: But this fucker he followed us while you know, I'm

497
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:58,280
Speaker 3: a phone the cops. So we're running and he's following us,

498
00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:02,040
Speaker 3: and we split up, but I ended up getting away.

499
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 3: I never got to see how much money we got

500
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:08,480
Speaker 3: because I got arrested the next day, but it was

501
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 3: I heard it was like less than five hundred. So

502
00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:14,120
Speaker 3: it really was worth it out obviously not but even

503
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 3: if we got away, it really wouldn't have been worth it.

504
00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:19,520
Speaker 3: But it was all for, you know, for a party.

505
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:20,720
Speaker 3: That's pretty much.

506
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:28,040
Speaker 1: Why was there? Ah, how did you jump him? Was

507
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:29,400
Speaker 1: there like a weapon involved?

508
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 3: No? So originally I was like, well, yeah, let's just

509
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:42,080
Speaker 3: knock this guy out, you know, but my friend was like, no, like,

510
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:44,520
Speaker 3: don't because he knew this guy that we were rather

511
00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:47,120
Speaker 3: that worked there, and so he didn't want him to

512
00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:51,480
Speaker 3: get hurt. So whatever, So we just kind of hopped out.

513
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:54,320
Speaker 3: I'm not even lying, this is this is crazy. So

514
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:56,760
Speaker 3: we hop out and there's you know, me and the

515
00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 3: guy I'm robbin with and the whatever the guy's name

516
00:29:59,880 --> 00:30:02,640
Speaker 3: was that was working there. We like, we had mass

517
00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:05,600
Speaker 3: on and stuff. But we're all looking at each other, right,

518
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:08,560
Speaker 3: and he looks at the guy I'm with and he says,

519
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:12,200
Speaker 3: he says his name, He's like David. So I'm like,

520
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:15,040
Speaker 3: what the fuck? What are we doing? I didn't know

521
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:16,640
Speaker 3: what was happening. We're just standing there. So then I

522
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:19,160
Speaker 3: just kind of ran up and just snatched him out

523
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:21,080
Speaker 3: of his hands, and then that's when we started running.

524
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:27,760
Speaker 3: So it's from the start it went terrible, but that

525
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:30,560
Speaker 3: was like, we're committed. We're already here. Can't just be like, oh,

526
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:32,800
Speaker 3: it was a prink so.

527
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:35,960
Speaker 1: Well, you know what's kind of cool is I feel

528
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,000
Speaker 1: you could actually if you wanted to, you could rewrite

529
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:41,240
Speaker 1: the story. When you know, like in the interviews, when

530
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:43,239
Speaker 1: they like will say like, hey, I noticed you had

531
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:47,920
Speaker 1: a felony here, what's up? You could say that you

532
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:53,640
Speaker 1: you just really wanted ice cream and you you rob

533
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:58,440
Speaker 1: them for big drums of mint chocolate chip. And that

534
00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:00,880
Speaker 1: might be a little bit quirky.

535
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 3: That's true. I had everyone texting me they were like,

536
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:10,280
Speaker 3: I could have just bought you a blizzard. So I

537
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:11,960
Speaker 3: definitely it wasn't my best frind.

538
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:16,320
Speaker 1: Okay, So I mean throughout your life, have you encountered

539
00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:20,680
Speaker 1: any times where this felony has impeded you from doing anything?

540
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:27,360
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, one hundred. I know one time me and

541
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:31,840
Speaker 3: my wife, like twoenty seventeen, I believe, we tried to

542
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:39,280
Speaker 3: move to Seattle from the Midwest, and I called shit,

543
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 3: you not probably about sixty places to try to find

544
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 3: an apartment, and every single one denied me because of

545
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 3: my felony. When it comes to jobs. Oh yeah, they

546
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 3: just see that felony and they're like, man, this guy's

547
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:56,760
Speaker 3: a piece of shit, even though it was ten years ago.

548
00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:00,960
Speaker 3: But what can I do?

549
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 1: Hm hmm. Well, and so that happens whenever they run

550
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:06,959
Speaker 1: your like your social Security and whatnot.

551
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:13,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, let they do background checks. They just yeah.

552
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 1: Now when you google, when you google around, when you

553
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:18,280
Speaker 1: google around, what do you what do you find on

554
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:21,000
Speaker 1: how you can uh get that expunged?

555
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:30,560
Speaker 3: So in Wisconsin you can only get it expunged if

556
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:37,480
Speaker 3: it's like pretty much requested at the time of your court.

557
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:43,520
Speaker 3: And I had a public defender and so he well

558
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:46,320
Speaker 3: he's terrible and I didn't know any of this stuff

559
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 3: until afterwards. But and so that never happened. So the

560
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:54,960
Speaker 3: only way I can actually get an expunged now, is

561
00:32:55,000 --> 00:33:00,080
Speaker 3: if I send like pardon paperwork to the governor and

562
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:03,040
Speaker 3: he decides he wants to expunge my feeling.

563
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 1: The only way I have it, like the fucking governor

564
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:10,160
Speaker 1: of Wisconsin has to expunge this personally.

565
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:13,560
Speaker 3: Yep, that's the only way I can get it expunged.

566
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:17,000
Speaker 3: And I have the paperwork ninety nine percent completed. All

567
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 3: I have to do is the job history. And it's

568
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:20,760
Speaker 3: been that way for about a year now, and I

569
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:24,000
Speaker 3: just for whatever reason, I just haven't done it. I

570
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:24,320
Speaker 3: don't know what.

571
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 1: Wait a minute, so is getting pardoned by the governor.

572
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 1: Is that like is that a crazy like Simpson's thing

573
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:33,280
Speaker 1: or is that like a real thing you can do.

574
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:38,400
Speaker 3: No, that's the real thing. Yeah, I like got eligible

575
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:41,000
Speaker 3: for able to like request it like two years ago.

576
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:43,520
Speaker 3: It has to be like a certain amount of time

577
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:45,880
Speaker 3: go by since you've committed your feeling it.

578
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:47,880
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, So why don't you do it? What's

579
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:49,240
Speaker 1: stopping you from doing it?

580
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 3: I'll be honest, I don't know. I don't know. Maybe

581
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:57,600
Speaker 3: I'm just nervous to get shot down again. I don't know,

582
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:02,760
Speaker 3: but I really probably should as I have a kid.

583
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean, I mean, what so you're just

584
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:10,319
Speaker 1: afraid that it'll get that your request will get shot down?

585
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:15,360
Speaker 3: H I don't know, it's something like that. Yeah, just

586
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 3: that you know, I'm just always gonna be thought of as, oh,

587
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 3: this guy's ship. But I don't know. I should do it.

588
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:27,160
Speaker 1: You should do it. I don't see why. I don't

589
00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:27,880
Speaker 1: see why you wouldn't.

590
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:32,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, I got nothing to lose, really, except I don't

591
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:34,400
Speaker 3: I don't know how it works, like if I get denied,

592
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:36,800
Speaker 3: if I have to wait then a certain amount of

593
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 3: time to try again. But I don't know.

594
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 1: Do I think maybe you've got to go get some

595
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:44,920
Speaker 1: You gotta get the you gotta get some dirt on

596
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:48,840
Speaker 1: the governor of Wisconsin. You can you control f the

597
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:51,440
Speaker 1: Epstein flight list for his name, you find that you're

598
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:52,960
Speaker 1: getting that expunged immediately.

599
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:57,200
Speaker 3: That's that's that's true. That's true because I mean, he's

600
00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:00,200
Speaker 3: kind of creepy when you look at him, but the governor.

601
00:34:59,880 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 1: Of Content, Yeah, I mean you could probably you could

602
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:06,239
Speaker 1: probably stake out him doing some shady ship.

603
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, he looks like you definitely be on that

604
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:13,960
Speaker 3: flight list.

605
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 1: Well, let me think, how old is your kid?

606
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:23,840
Speaker 3: Two. Okay, he's too. So you know, I feel like

607
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 3: I have a good case here. You know, I haven't

608
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:27,440
Speaker 3: been in trouble in ten years. I got two year old,

609
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 3: we got a wife, we got you know, a decent,

610
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:32,719
Speaker 3: tame job. You know, maybe the governor would be like, yeah,

611
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:33,200
Speaker 3: it's enough.

612
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 1: You've paid for every ice cream cone you've consumed in

613
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:43,399
Speaker 1: the past ten years, all abiding assists, and oh yeah, yeah, man,

614
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:45,359
Speaker 1: I just do it. I don't know, I don't know, man,

615
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:47,000
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not I'm not in your brain. I

616
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 1: don't know what's holding you back. If it's a fear

617
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 1: of rejection, but like you got a fucking kid and

618
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:52,680
Speaker 1: a wife and a whole Yeah, you know, what what

619
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:54,239
Speaker 1: do you? What do you? What do you? What do

620
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:56,719
Speaker 1: you got to lose from sending in this paperwork? You know,

621
00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:59,879
Speaker 1: it's not like they they're not going to arrest you again.

622
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:03,320
Speaker 3: Not true, And man, I'm not gonna put.

623
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 1: Your face up outside of every dairy queen in Wisconsin.

624
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:11,839
Speaker 3: So funny enough that dairy queen it got it shut

625
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:14,799
Speaker 3: down about two months after he robbed it, and they

626
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 3: got torn down.

627
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:25,920
Speaker 1: Damn scared off. I did scare you scared dairy queen

628
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:28,799
Speaker 1: out of town. That's pretty fun, you know.

629
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:32,359
Speaker 3: But dude, yeah, I got so much ship for it

630
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:33,920
Speaker 3: in jail by the other inmates.

631
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:36,360
Speaker 1: How long were you? What kind of ship did you

632
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:36,960
Speaker 1: get for it?

633
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:42,319
Speaker 3: So so originally it was I got charged with strong

634
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:46,520
Speaker 3: arm robbery. They got dropped down to a theft from

635
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 3: a person or a corpse. I don't know why they

636
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:50,919
Speaker 3: have to have corpse on there, sound like he was dead,

637
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 3: but whatever. So they gave me. They gave me eight

638
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 3: months in jail and then two and a half years provision,

639
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:01,920
Speaker 3: and they, I mean they just kind of you know,

640
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:04,319
Speaker 3: it's called me them ship like you know, like the

641
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 3: DQ bandit and just gave me other crap about ice

642
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 3: cream stuff. But you know it saw a lot of

643
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 3: interesting things in there.

644
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:18,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, like what.

645
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:25,000
Speaker 3: So, I don't know if you've ever seen, Oh man,

646
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:27,399
Speaker 3: that guy listening to about six foot five and there

647
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:32,719
Speaker 3: was probably about a five foot six guy, and he

648
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:35,960
Speaker 3: tried to fight him, and it was pretty funny. He

649
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:38,480
Speaker 3: jumped up as high as he could and he swung

650
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:40,959
Speaker 3: and it still only hit this guy in the chest.

651
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:44,560
Speaker 3: And it was just like one of the funniest things

652
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:46,640
Speaker 3: I've ever seen. But now I saw a couple of

653
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 3: fights in there. They're pretty interesting. The guards never ran

654
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 3: in to stop it. I think they were probably betting

655
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:57,279
Speaker 3: on who would win if I had to guess, of.

656
00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 1: All the ice cream related nick names that you received,

657
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 1: do you remember any where you were like, all right,

658
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:03,719
Speaker 1: that's pretty good.

659
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:10,080
Speaker 3: No, not really. I mean, I'll be honest, in my memory

660
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:12,800
Speaker 3: kind of kind of sucked, but just really just the

661
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Speaker 3: gky vand it is what they'd call me m.

662
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:20,960
Speaker 1: And so you were in there for eight months? Did

663
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:22,719
Speaker 1: you go crazy at all? I mean eight months is

664
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 1: fairly long.

665
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:26,759
Speaker 3: No. So the first two months I was on the

666
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:30,719
Speaker 3: jail side waiting like and see what happened to me?

667
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 3: And every even me was like, oh yeah, you're going

668
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:35,759
Speaker 3: to prison. You're you're on probation for a battery charge

669
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 3: and you just committed selling. You're going to prison. Oh.

670
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:41,319
Speaker 3: I was like, well shit, I'm going to prison. I

671
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:44,919
Speaker 3: was just trying to like prepare myself. And then when

672
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:47,200
Speaker 3: the time came, they just got that sentence and then

673
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 3: they moved me over to the Hubre side for six months.

674
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:53,640
Speaker 3: And you know the south on the Hubre side, there's

675
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:56,719
Speaker 3: like totally there canna be like eight people in there

676
00:38:57,480 --> 00:38:59,800
Speaker 3: and I had six people in there with me, and

677
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 3: I got out for work release, so it was kind

678
00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:06,400
Speaker 3: of fun. I worked at a casino. I ended up

679
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 3: getting fired from that because I, uh yeah, in the kitchen.

680
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:14,000
Speaker 3: I got fired from that because I was other inmates

681
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 3: worked at the casino. I was sneaking them sandwiches for

682
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:21,520
Speaker 3: free and they found out, so I got fired.

683
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:27,400
Speaker 1: All right, that's not that bad. As long as you

684
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:29,799
Speaker 1: weren't sneaking them ice cream cones, then you definitely then

685
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 1: you would be like, all right, I'm the fucking ice

686
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:32,160
Speaker 1: cream bandit.

687
00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:37,719
Speaker 3: Oh yeah. And I know one time they wanted me

688
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:41,400
Speaker 3: to sneak some chewing tobacco back and I wasn't gonna

689
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:43,640
Speaker 3: do it, so they had to have someone I'm not

690
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 3: sticking anything up there, you know, so they had they

691
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:49,880
Speaker 3: had this other guy in there bring it back. And

692
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:52,319
Speaker 3: I got to say, was one of the funniest things. Man.

693
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 3: We're sitting in that room and the dude comes back

694
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:56,799
Speaker 3: and he goes into the bathroom. He's in there for

695
00:39:56,800 --> 00:40:00,640
Speaker 3: a while. He comes back and he's freaking out. I

696
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:03,239
Speaker 3: do he won't come out, he won't come out as stuck.

697
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:05,200
Speaker 3: What do I do? What do I do, and we're

698
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:07,319
Speaker 3: all just laughing and we're like, dude, you gotta get

699
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:08,919
Speaker 3: it out. He's like a pencil, I don't know, stick

700
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:11,080
Speaker 3: up there, fish it up and he almost started crying.

701
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:13,279
Speaker 3: He's like, well what if it breaks and it all

702
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:15,560
Speaker 3: absorbs at my ass? He's like, I'm gonna die And

703
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:18,440
Speaker 3: it was. It was hilarious. He was he was streaking

704
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:19,360
Speaker 3: out so bad.

705
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 1: Just can you die from a plastic fork in your asshole?

706
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:32,239
Speaker 3: Well? Well, he had like two tins up his ass.

707
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:28,440
Speaker 2: Like.

708
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:34,400
Speaker 1: Tobacco. Yes, and this guy's got a giant asshole. Oh

709
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:36,000
Speaker 1: my god, how big were these tins?

710
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:39,279
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't choose, so I don't know how

711
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:41,399
Speaker 3: much you know tobacco is and it's in, but yeah,

712
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:42,480
Speaker 3: you had two tins up there.

713
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.

714
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:47,240
Speaker 3: So frobe Nott the first time.

715
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:52,719
Speaker 1: Doing that, that'll give you quite the nicotine buzz. Oh yeah,

716
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:56,759
Speaker 1: Well what's your name again? Man?

717
00:40:58,280 --> 00:40:58,560
Speaker 3: Craig?

718
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:05,440
Speaker 1: Craig Craig. So you have a kid now, Yeah, that's cool,

719
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 1: you got you know, I hope, I truly man, I

720
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:13,400
Speaker 1: wish that you fill out the form because I know

721
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:17,279
Speaker 1: it's easy to you know, be pessimistic and go ah,

722
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 1: this is never going to work. Why even try? But

723
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:21,839
Speaker 1: I mean, if the forum's ninety nine percent filled out,

724
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:23,120
Speaker 1: you might as well.

725
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:26,120
Speaker 3: All right, And like at first it was like, you know,

726
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 3: there's dumbness. Sounds is kind of cool having a phone,

727
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:33,759
Speaker 3: you know, a felle my. And you know, my wife

728
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:37,439
Speaker 3: said that when she, like we met each other at work,

729
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 3: and I was like a fry cook. And she said

730
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:41,839
Speaker 3: when she heard that I was a fella, made her

731
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:42,439
Speaker 3: pussy wet.

732
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:49,919
Speaker 1: So well, there we go. It counted for something, it did, Yeah,

733
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:52,600
Speaker 1: you know, and hey, if you're lucky, maybe it will

734
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:58,239
Speaker 1: make the governor of Wisconsin's pussy wet too, Craig, is

735
00:41:58,239 --> 00:41:59,480
Speaker 1: there anything else you want to say to the people

736
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:00,680
Speaker 1: of the computer before we go?

737
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:06,239
Speaker 3: No, man, I appreciate everything, all the advice. I'm gonna

738
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:08,040
Speaker 3: go fill that format. I'm gonna do it good.

739
00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:09,880
Speaker 1: Please do let me know how it goes.

740
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, well many good night.

741
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:18,920
Speaker 1: Take care. Maybe I should put uh, maybe I should

742
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 1: put that on my dating app profiles that I'm a

743
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:24,640
Speaker 1: convicted fell and maybe that'll that'll up some of the matches.

744
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:35,879
Speaker 5: Hello, hi there, Hey, this is the therapy dot go thing.

745
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 1: Yes? Is this Sydney? Yes, Cindy what's going on, Sidney?

746
00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:42,440
Speaker 1: What do you want to talk about?

747
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:48,680
Speaker 5: Well, I have a lot of anxiety over this like

748
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:52,680
Speaker 5: plastic surgery thing I scheduled, and it's been really hard

749
00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:55,560
Speaker 5: to find a job, and I are already rescheduled at

750
00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:59,759
Speaker 5: once and it will key can't afford it, but I

751
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 5: think I'm just gonna do it.

752
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 3: Anyways.

753
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:06,440
Speaker 1: You texted me and you said, I have a plastic

754
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:09,879
Speaker 1: surgery appointment in two weeks and I can't afford it,

755
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:12,399
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna have to do it anyway. And I'm

756
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:16,000
Speaker 1: freaking out. Lol, I'm ready to go into debt to

757
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:17,080
Speaker 1: feel sexy.

758
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:19,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, pretty much.

759
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:23,200
Speaker 1: Can I ask you what the surgery is?

760
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:28,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a It's an eelid surgery of a condition

761
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 5: called toasis, where one eyelid is droopier than the other.

762
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:39,280
Speaker 5: It's not that noticeable, but less I take a picture

763
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:41,879
Speaker 5: or something or even my id, you can see one

764
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:44,520
Speaker 5: eye is lower than the other eye and you have

765
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:48,200
Speaker 5: to fix both eyelids to make it even. And it's

766
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:49,400
Speaker 5: like an insecurity that I have.

767
00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:53,000
Speaker 1: Can I ask you how much the surgery is?

768
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:55,520
Speaker 5: Five thousand dollars?

769
00:43:56,280 --> 00:44:01,520
Speaker 1: Okay? And do you have literally zero money right now?

770
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:07,880
Speaker 5: Pretty much? Yeah, I love a for my mom, so

771
00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:10,759
Speaker 5: I don't have to worry about rent or like that.

772
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:13,320
Speaker 5: But uh, I'm not out of a job for a while.

773
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 5: But I do have six thousand dollars in credit.

774
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:25,239
Speaker 1: Six in credit. Okay, Now, why do you feel like

775
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:29,719
Speaker 1: you want to, as you say, go into debt to

776
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:34,839
Speaker 1: feel sexy?

777
00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:37,720
Speaker 5: Just because I've always wanted to get the surgery done

778
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:41,600
Speaker 5: and I found like a good plastic surgeon in Chicago,

779
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:46,239
Speaker 5: and I just thought, if I don't do it now,

780
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 5: I'm just never going to get it done. If I

781
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:50,040
Speaker 5: just cancel it straight up, I'm just never going to

782
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:50,680
Speaker 5: get it done.

783
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:52,960
Speaker 1: I feel like, what makes you think that?

784
00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:59,560
Speaker 5: Because I don't know. I just I feel like it's

785
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:02,959
Speaker 5: a nowur never situation. It's probably not, but like that's

786
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:04,880
Speaker 5: just how my brain makes it feel.

787
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:05,759
Speaker 1: Mm hm.

788
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:11,160
Speaker 5: I feel like I'm just gonna end up just going

789
00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:14,240
Speaker 5: through with it anyway and then just work really hard

790
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:17,480
Speaker 5: at like job that didn't want to take, and then

791
00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:19,080
Speaker 5: just pay it off over time.

792
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:24,319
Speaker 1: It sounding and it's sounding to be like this is

793
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 1: the wrong time to do it, you know. I mean,

794
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:29,799
Speaker 1: you said now or neever you're you were, you were

795
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:31,799
Speaker 1: clinging to the idea that you have to do it

796
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:35,640
Speaker 1: now when you are in just a terrible position for it.

797
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:37,719
Speaker 1: And I just don't know why you are clinging to

798
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:38,680
Speaker 1: that idea.

799
00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:43,960
Speaker 4: I don't know.

800
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:46,400
Speaker 5: I'm not really known for making good decisions like that,

801
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:50,440
Speaker 5: but I don't know. I just it's just like a

802
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:53,960
Speaker 5: self conscious thing, like no one else really cares about it,

803
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:57,160
Speaker 5: like except for me, Like it's just a me thing.

804
00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:06,600
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm. Uh did you put a deposit down already?

805
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:07,919
Speaker 2: Yeah?

806
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:08,319
Speaker 5: I did.

807
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:12,319
Speaker 1: Okay, So I mean, so you're doing the surgery.

808
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, I technically have to pay what is it for? Well,

809
00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:20,399
Speaker 5: a lesson for. I forgot how much I put down,

810
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:23,080
Speaker 5: but it is lesson for. But it is still pretty

811
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:23,760
Speaker 5: high up here.

812
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:28,839
Speaker 1: Okay, Well all right, So I mean so, I mean, listen,

813
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:30,800
Speaker 1: there's nothing at this point I'm going to say to

814
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:33,800
Speaker 1: you that will influence uh the outcome, because you have

815
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:39,920
Speaker 1: already put down a deposit on this surgery. Yeah, okay,

816
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:42,759
Speaker 1: so are we are?

817
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:43,600
Speaker 3: We are?

818
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:46,840
Speaker 1: We just deciding if we've made the right decision so

819
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:51,360
Speaker 1: we can analyze our decisions better in the future.

820
00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:54,800
Speaker 3: I guess.

821
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:58,720
Speaker 1: So yeah, Okay, walk me through how you are feeling.

822
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:11,080
Speaker 5: I'm feeling dumb, feeling nervous uh thoughts of anxiety.

823
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:18,239
Speaker 1: About what uh having to work the jobs paying off

824
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:18,640
Speaker 1: the debt.

825
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:22,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, about like me having to go through like probably

826
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:24,240
Speaker 5: working two jobs.

827
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:27,799
Speaker 1: Is there any way you can get this deposit back?

828
00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:30,240
Speaker 1: Or is that because I guess the point of the deposit.

829
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:34,200
Speaker 5: Nah, I'm gonna have to lose it.

830
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:40,359
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, how old are you?

831
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:41,879
Speaker 5: Twenty five?

832
00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:47,719
Speaker 1: Okay? I mean, look, everybody has at least one very

833
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:52,840
Speaker 1: questionable financial decision to talk about in their lives.

834
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:54,840
Speaker 2: Yeah.

835
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:56,840
Speaker 1: I don't know if I talked about this before, but

836
00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:59,920
Speaker 1: I once, uh, I once met a guy at a

837
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:05,080
Speaker 1: hostel who told me that he would get me started

838
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 1: in real estate if I gave him fifteen hundred dollars

839
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:17,800
Speaker 1: in cash. And I did because and he left the hostel,

840
00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:20,759
Speaker 1: but his shoes were still there, Like he left his

841
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:24,680
Speaker 1: shoes in the room. So I was like, well, he's

842
00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:26,759
Speaker 1: probably I mean, there's no way he just took my

843
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:28,920
Speaker 1: money and left. He's got to come back for these shoes.

844
00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:35,520
Speaker 1: And he did not come back for the shoes. So

845
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:39,280
Speaker 1: I mean, look, everyone has at least one dumb money story.

846
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 1: But I mean, look, you'll work off the debt, You'll

847
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:48,040
Speaker 1: get yourself back to zero and things will be okay.

848
00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:51,760
Speaker 1: You know you're not. You don't have kids to feed,

849
00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:55,239
Speaker 1: you don't have you have college debt? Do you have

850
00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:57,040
Speaker 1: any other debt?

851
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:02,600
Speaker 5: Actually do have, but I haven't paid it at all

852
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:05,440
Speaker 5: and nothing's bad happened yet, and my credit score is

853
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:06,880
Speaker 5: still Southern fifty.

854
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:09,880
Speaker 1: So I really do feel like this is like the

855
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 1: Dave Ramsey Show sometimes. Okay, well, where are you gonna work?

856
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:19,040
Speaker 1: These two jobs?

857
00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:23,360
Speaker 5: I didn't want to go back to fast food just because, uh,

858
00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:28,239
Speaker 5: I have a I have autism, so it makes I

859
00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:31,680
Speaker 5: can force myself to work like jobs that are overstimulating,

860
00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:34,759
Speaker 5: but like it just really sucks and it's bad for

861
00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:37,480
Speaker 5: my mental health. I'm just gonna have to force myself

862
00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 5: to go back to fast food.

863
00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:40,120
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.

864
00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:45,680
Speaker 5: What about back to the warehouse? It did work warehouse jobs.

865
00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:49,000
Speaker 1: Couldn't could you day trade bitcoin? What? What are some

866
00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:50,000
Speaker 1: jobs you could do?

867
00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:50,120
Speaker 2: Like?

868
00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:56,560
Speaker 1: Could you you ever? Do you ever flip mugs on eBay?

869
00:49:56,600 --> 00:49:58,440
Speaker 1: There's all sorts of things you can do for money.

870
00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:04,080
Speaker 5: I do some of my collections, maybe some some of

871
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:08,120
Speaker 5: my uh some stuff that like overcrime my room. I

872
00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:13,120
Speaker 5: have like a big Hello Kitty collection and other anime

873
00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:15,680
Speaker 5: stuff I do resell every once in a while.

874
00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:23,600
Speaker 1: Rustin Dy, I hope you enjoy your new eyelid. That's

875
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:25,719
Speaker 1: that's that's what I want. That's what I want. Here's

876
00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:28,080
Speaker 1: the thing. If you're gonna pay five thousand dollars for

877
00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:31,520
Speaker 1: an eyelid, don't feel like you did it already, right,

878
00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:33,560
Speaker 1: So I mean, look, if don't feel dumb and stupid

879
00:50:33,560 --> 00:50:36,319
Speaker 1: about it, because then it's like, well, you paid five

880
00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:39,560
Speaker 1: thousand dollars for the eyelid. Fucking enjoy the eyelid that

881
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:43,360
Speaker 1: you paid for because you're the feeling dumb and stupid

882
00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:47,240
Speaker 1: about it? Is it is like, is the dumb option

883
00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:51,480
Speaker 1: right because you've already paid the money. Just enjoy your

884
00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:54,040
Speaker 1: eyeland I mean, I mean, if I were look, listen,

885
00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:57,640
Speaker 1: if I were you, and I get it. Everybody has has,

886
00:50:57,680 --> 00:51:02,560
Speaker 1: you know, self consciousness is and insecurities that that that

887
00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:06,200
Speaker 1: feel nice to fix. But you know, if I were you,

888
00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:08,680
Speaker 1: I probably wouldn't do something like this again in the future.

889
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:12,399
Speaker 1: But enjoy your fucking eyelids, you know, don't don't feel

890
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:15,719
Speaker 1: bad about it. You got the eyelids, get them, walk

891
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:19,239
Speaker 1: walk out of that operating table happy at day. You

892
00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:23,600
Speaker 1: got your new eyelids. Congratulationss Cindy. Is there anything else

893
00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:24,840
Speaker 1: you want to say to the people of the computer

894
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:25,480
Speaker 1: before we go?

895
00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:33,200
Speaker 5: Definitely be smarter about your money choices, and don't be

896
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:36,959
Speaker 5: like me. That's all I gotta say.

897
00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:40,279
Speaker 1: All right, you take care of Cindy, all.

898
00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:41,439
Speaker 5: Right, thank you, love you.

899
00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:44,200
Speaker 2: Bye.

900
00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:53,600
Speaker 1: I once bought a year of brassers for like, I

901
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:56,840
Speaker 1: don't know, one hundred plus something dollars, and then I

902
00:51:56,880 --> 00:51:59,400
Speaker 1: found out there's all this porn on the internet for free.

903
00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:02,960
Speaker 1: Imagine how dumb I felt?

904
00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:09,759
Speaker 6: Jack, Hello, Hey, what's going on?

905
00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:11,600
Speaker 1: Not much? Man? How are you?

906
00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:13,120
Speaker 3: I'm good?

907
00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:13,680
Speaker 6: How are you?

908
00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:17,920
Speaker 1: I'm good too. You sound crazy on the some a lot.

909
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:21,440
Speaker 1: Most people sound far away, you sound too close.

910
00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:22,799
Speaker 3: Shot.

911
00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:25,120
Speaker 1: Back up, yeah, back up a little bit. What do

912
00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:25,480
Speaker 1: are you?

913
00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:25,800
Speaker 5: What are you?

914
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:29,040
Speaker 6: What are you on a cell phone? Like I would

915
00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:30,240
Speaker 6: imagine most people.

916
00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:34,640
Speaker 1: All right, yeah, Matt, what's going on? How's life?

917
00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:39,840
Speaker 6: Life's doing good? I got my dog right here watching

918
00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:42,000
Speaker 6: some therapy, gocko, enjoying a day off.

919
00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:47,080
Speaker 1: Beautiful, beautiful? Would you want to talk about today, Matt?

920
00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:50,120
Speaker 6: H Well, it's kind of a crazy story. So I

921
00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:53,200
Speaker 6: wanted to talk about your show in Chicago and what

922
00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:58,440
Speaker 6: was going on while I was there. So basically, long

923
00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:03,040
Speaker 6: story short is, I got on antidepressants just before your

924
00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:06,600
Speaker 6: show and kind of went a little manic for a while.

925
00:53:07,080 --> 00:53:09,120
Speaker 6: I was dating this girl at the time, and I

926
00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:12,240
Speaker 6: ended up cheating on her, I think right before your show,

927
00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:16,719
Speaker 6: and the show went so good that we actually I

928
00:53:16,719 --> 00:53:19,680
Speaker 6: couldn't do it, like I had to like stay together

929
00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:21,239
Speaker 6: with her. I was going to break up with her.

930
00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:24,160
Speaker 6: We ended up staying together for like another month.

931
00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:29,880
Speaker 1: Okay, you wait, you cheat on your girlfriend and then

932
00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:33,960
Speaker 1: my show was so good that it made you stay

933
00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:34,399
Speaker 1: with her.

934
00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:38,760
Speaker 6: We had such a fantastic date. We were discussing breaking

935
00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:44,000
Speaker 6: up all throughout like the past couple of weeks. You know,

936
00:53:44,040 --> 00:53:46,400
Speaker 6: it was really hard couple weeks.

937
00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:46,799
Speaker 3: Uh.

938
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:48,920
Speaker 6: Then we decided to, like, okay, one more date. We

939
00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:52,000
Speaker 6: already had these tickets, or I already had the tickets,

940
00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:55,719
Speaker 6: so I said, you know, come with me and we'll

941
00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:58,480
Speaker 6: see how it goes and then we'll decide afterwards. It

942
00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:02,319
Speaker 6: was such a good date. We got some ramen right

943
00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:04,680
Speaker 6: across the street, and I think you were at Lincoln

944
00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:07,799
Speaker 6: Loune right, Yeah, yeah.

945
00:54:07,719 --> 00:54:12,120
Speaker 1: Wait, does she know that you cheated on her?

946
00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:15,839
Speaker 6: I was gonna break up with her the day of

947
00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:21,239
Speaker 6: or the day after or whatever. But the antidepressants just

948
00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:25,000
Speaker 6: really fucked with me. And either it was you had

949
00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:27,440
Speaker 6: a really good show and I wanted to like stay together.

950
00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:32,239
Speaker 1: Or does she? Does she know that you cheat?

951
00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:33,359
Speaker 3: Oh?

952
00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:33,640
Speaker 2: Yeah?

953
00:54:33,719 --> 00:54:37,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, so this was your show was about April or something.

954
00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:39,239
Speaker 6: And then why I don't know why.

955
00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:41,600
Speaker 1: I don't know why you keep needing my show to

956
00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:42,600
Speaker 1: answer this question.

957
00:54:43,239 --> 00:54:48,000
Speaker 6: It was such a good show, Matt.

958
00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:51,200
Speaker 1: Does she know that you cheated on her?

959
00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:52,000
Speaker 3: Yeah?

960
00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:55,040
Speaker 6: Yeah, so we've broken up. I came clean and uh,

961
00:54:55,560 --> 00:54:59,160
Speaker 6: I told her everything, trying to start new, and obviously

962
00:54:59,239 --> 00:55:02,080
Speaker 6: that didn't go well. So I'm sitting here single with

963
00:55:02,120 --> 00:55:02,560
Speaker 6: my dog.

964
00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:06,520
Speaker 1: Wait, I guess you guys aren't together.

965
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:08,960
Speaker 6: No, no, she's my X now.

966
00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:14,919
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm let me try to understand this. You cheat

967
00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:19,759
Speaker 1: on her, yeah, and then you guys go to my

968
00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:25,040
Speaker 1: show yep, and then you tell her that you cheated

969
00:55:25,120 --> 00:55:26,080
Speaker 1: on her.

970
00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:30,400
Speaker 6: Like two weeks later, we took a little bit of

971
00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:35,120
Speaker 6: a break, like after the show. We decided like, okay,

972
00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:38,160
Speaker 6: let's take some break, like some time apart. When we

973
00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:41,400
Speaker 6: were supposed to meet up the day after the break ended,

974
00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:42,960
Speaker 6: I decided.

975
00:55:42,560 --> 00:55:46,080
Speaker 1: To tell her and come Quan, and that was like

976
00:55:46,120 --> 00:55:47,760
Speaker 1: a month after it happened.

977
00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:53,360
Speaker 6: Probably like two three weeks.

978
00:55:53,600 --> 00:55:57,480
Speaker 1: Okay, I don't, I don't. I guess I don't know. Well,

979
00:55:57,520 --> 00:55:59,399
Speaker 1: I mean, thanks for the kind words about the show,

980
00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:01,480
Speaker 1: but I don't know if it has anything at all

981
00:56:01,520 --> 00:56:04,560
Speaker 1: to do with your relationship. Unfortunately, I thought this was

982
00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:06,600
Speaker 1: gonna be a story of thought. I thought I was

983
00:56:06,640 --> 00:56:09,200
Speaker 1: going to start having to advertise my show as, Hey,

984
00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:12,160
Speaker 1: if you cheated on your girlfriend, just buy her tickets

985
00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:14,920
Speaker 1: to Therapy Gecko and she'll forgive you. But that does

986
00:56:14,960 --> 00:56:16,880
Speaker 1: not see. It was like, it is what happened.

987
00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:21,600
Speaker 6: Our relationship was teetering, and you know, I shouldn't have

988
00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:25,239
Speaker 6: done what I did, and then the show is just

989
00:56:25,239 --> 00:56:27,920
Speaker 6: so good that we I decided to like give it

990
00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:30,640
Speaker 6: a chance. But I think the main story was I

991
00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:33,960
Speaker 6: don't know if you have anybody here, like on antidepressants

992
00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:38,719
Speaker 6: or anything, but I want crazy. For like two three weeks,

993
00:56:39,160 --> 00:56:41,000
Speaker 6: I was really up there. I think they call it

994
00:56:41,040 --> 00:56:45,880
Speaker 6: like a manick state, and I was just absolutely wired

995
00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:47,800
Speaker 6: for two weeks.

996
00:56:48,520 --> 00:56:50,600
Speaker 1: What what are you doing now?

997
00:56:52,080 --> 00:56:54,000
Speaker 6: What am I doing now? I got off the pills,

998
00:56:54,360 --> 00:56:58,440
Speaker 6: working on myself outside of the pills, going to therapy

999
00:56:59,200 --> 00:57:04,160
Speaker 6: not just got but you know, human therapy and yeah,

1000
00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:05,800
Speaker 6: just trying to do it naturally.

1001
00:57:07,640 --> 00:57:08,480
Speaker 1: But that's good.

1002
00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:13,400
Speaker 6: Yeah, the antidepressants. For about two weeks, I didn't sleep

1003
00:57:14,239 --> 00:57:18,160
Speaker 6: maybe a couple hours. I was barely eating. It was

1004
00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:22,720
Speaker 6: absolutely crazy. And that's when that all happened. So I

1005
00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:25,840
Speaker 6: kind of convinced myself for a while that it happened

1006
00:57:26,040 --> 00:57:30,840
Speaker 6: in that manicked state because of the pills. But after

1007
00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:34,280
Speaker 6: all this time, after you know, eight months, whatever it's been,

1008
00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:40,320
Speaker 6: I've kind of admitted now you just you did it.

1009
00:57:40,480 --> 00:57:43,560
Speaker 1: Was it taking you a long time to admit that

1010
00:57:43,640 --> 00:57:45,520
Speaker 1: you cheated on your girlfriend?

1011
00:57:47,080 --> 00:57:50,240
Speaker 6: It has taken me a long time to like seek

1012
00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:53,720
Speaker 6: forgiveness for myself. So we haven't talked since I told her.

1013
00:57:55,640 --> 00:57:58,000
Speaker 6: And that's like the really hard part is if she

1014
00:57:58,080 --> 00:58:00,000
Speaker 6: would have forgiven me, I would have been able to

1015
00:58:00,160 --> 00:58:04,600
Speaker 6: forgive myself. But when it's just me, uh, you know,

1016
00:58:04,760 --> 00:58:07,439
Speaker 6: it's it's a lot harder to forgive yourself when there's

1017
00:58:07,520 --> 00:58:12,280
Speaker 6: no I guess, outside source of forgiveness. I'm still not

1018
00:58:12,440 --> 00:58:14,080
Speaker 6: even one hundred percent there.

1019
00:58:17,360 --> 00:58:24,200
Speaker 1: M how long did you say it's been since you

1020
00:58:24,280 --> 00:58:34,040
Speaker 1: talked to her eight months or so? Well? Well, man,

1021
00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:37,280
Speaker 1: I don't know man I I I I'm look, I'm

1022
00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:39,680
Speaker 1: glad that you're taking pills. Well you're not. Are you

1023
00:58:39,680 --> 00:58:40,120
Speaker 1: taking pills?

1024
00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:42,200
Speaker 6: You're not. No, I'm not taking pills. This is a

1025
00:58:42,240 --> 00:58:44,920
Speaker 6: warning against the pills. So I actually got them off

1026
00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:48,800
Speaker 6: the ther rectile dysfunction website HYMNS.

1027
00:58:48,840 --> 00:58:52,280
Speaker 1: Oh Jesus, all right, don't I know taking pills. Don't

1028
00:58:52,320 --> 00:58:54,640
Speaker 1: take any pills that you get from a porn hubad

1029
00:58:55,600 --> 00:58:55,880
Speaker 1: I know?

1030
00:58:56,200 --> 00:58:59,680
Speaker 6: And I I was like, you know, maybe I'll just

1031
00:58:59,720 --> 00:59:02,320
Speaker 6: try and out before I actually go get diagnosed or whatever.

1032
00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:07,120
Speaker 6: And man, I was wired. And because I got them

1033
00:59:07,120 --> 00:59:09,280
Speaker 6: from HYMNS, I couldn't like talk to a doctor and

1034
00:59:09,320 --> 00:59:10,680
Speaker 6: say like, hey, I'm feeling this way.

1035
00:59:11,560 --> 00:59:15,360
Speaker 1: So Matt, you're telling me that you bought adderall off

1036
00:59:15,400 --> 00:59:17,680
Speaker 1: of porn hub. That was so good? It made you

1037
00:59:17,760 --> 00:59:18,920
Speaker 1: cheat on your girlfriend?

1038
00:59:19,720 --> 00:59:21,960
Speaker 6: Is it Adderall? I don't know what it was, but man,

1039
00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:26,480
Speaker 6: I was like everything made me happy for like two weeks,

1040
00:59:26,520 --> 00:59:29,360
Speaker 6: three weeks, whatever it was. I would describe it like

1041
00:59:29,440 --> 00:59:31,960
Speaker 6: being tickled, like everything may be happy, but it was

1042
00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:33,000
Speaker 6: also kind of torture.

1043
00:59:36,040 --> 00:59:41,320
Speaker 1: Well, I'm coming back to Chicago, and uh, I think,

1044
00:59:42,320 --> 00:59:46,040
Speaker 1: may I know, Yeah, if you have any other relationships

1045
00:59:46,040 --> 00:59:46,880
Speaker 1: that you need to mend.

1046
00:59:48,040 --> 00:59:48,240
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1047
00:59:48,360 --> 00:59:50,720
Speaker 6: No, I'll be there, hopefully with somebody that I don't

1048
00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:51,120
Speaker 6: cheat on.

1049
00:59:53,040 --> 00:59:53,360
Speaker 3: Well.

1050
00:59:53,840 --> 00:59:56,600
Speaker 1: Uh, I would like to be the first one to

1051
00:59:56,640 --> 00:59:59,520
Speaker 1: remind you that that is within your control.

1052
01:00:00,440 --> 01:00:02,120
Speaker 6: Yes, it is.

1053
01:00:02,120 --> 01:00:03,360
Speaker 1: Is there anything else you want to say to the

1054
01:00:03,400 --> 01:00:04,680
Speaker 1: people of the computer before we go.

1055
01:00:04,720 --> 01:00:09,520
Speaker 6: Mat Uh, don't get antidepressants from boner websites.

1056
01:00:11,960 --> 01:00:12,680
Speaker 1: Take care man?

1057
01:00:13,320 --> 01:00:14,000
Speaker 3: All right, thank you.

1058
01:00:15,680 --> 01:00:20,840
Speaker 1: Maybe I should start my own line of gecko boner pills. Okay,

1059
01:00:20,920 --> 01:00:34,920
Speaker 1: let me think lizard irreptile irreptile enhancers, irreptile reptile erection enhancers,

1060
01:00:35,080 --> 01:00:39,920
Speaker 1: reptile erection enhancers. Yeah, let's go with that.

1061
01:00:40,840 --> 01:00:44,920
Speaker 3: Never goes on the line taking your phone calls every night.

1062
01:00:45,360 --> 01:00:50,280
Speaker 3: Everything goes to teaching you aloud in the interview Line's

1063
01:00:50,400 --> 01:00:51,080
Speaker 3: not ready.