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Speaker 1: they try and nurse those guys back to health. But

428
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Speaker 1: now you've got a chance in the in this organization.

429
00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:36,120
Speaker 1: Now you've got three really interesting running backs. Uh there

430
00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:38,639
Speaker 1: for the Arizona Cardinals who fit well inside that scheme

431
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Speaker 1: with Cliff Kingsbury. I'm gonna go to Cleveland Browns. We

432
00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:44,920
Speaker 1: saw Nick Chubb get loose against the New England Patriots. Um,

433
00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:47,320
Speaker 1: this is they got Hilliard, who's a good young back,

434
00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:49,840
Speaker 1: and look they're gonna get coming off of suspension. You're

435
00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:51,480
Speaker 1: gonna get one of the better runners in the NFL

436
00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:53,639
Speaker 1: and Cream Hunt. So if you want to buy stock

437
00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:55,280
Speaker 1: in a team, and you look at the schedule and

438
00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:57,240
Speaker 1: you look at who they have in that position group,

439
00:19:57,400 --> 00:20:00,000
Speaker 1: I think we've got a chance to see an explosive, dynamic,

440
00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:02,040
Speaker 1: make run game from Cleveland here in the second half.

441
00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:05,600
Speaker 1: Oh absolutely, I mean they're on fire. I think the

442
00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:08,800
Speaker 1: best thing that the Cleveland Browns can do is to

443
00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:12,240
Speaker 1: pause and realize that on offense, things are a lot

444
00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:14,960
Speaker 1: better when it runs through Nick Chubb. Let Nick Chubb

445
00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:17,400
Speaker 1: be the bell cow, Let him be the focal point

446
00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:20,119
Speaker 1: of the game plan, and then everyone else kind of

447
00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:23,160
Speaker 1: is prioritized after that. But when Nick Chubb is getting

448
00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:25,200
Speaker 1: the ball and running the rock man, this team looks

449
00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:28,200
Speaker 1: like a physical team, the team that we were starting

450
00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:29,800
Speaker 1: to fall in love with at the end of the season.

451
00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:32,320
Speaker 1: Make Nick Chubb the priority, because you're right, they do

452
00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:36,520
Speaker 1: have one of the best upcoming young running back rooms

453
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Speaker 1: that we've seen. All right, let's let's switch over the

454
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Speaker 1: defensive side of the ball. If we're looking at the

455
00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:46,240
Speaker 1: first half of the season, we're looking at a pass rush,

456
00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:49,280
Speaker 1: defensive line, outside linebackers, wherever you want to classify it.

457
00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:52,800
Speaker 1: But just the most impressive group rushing the pastor there

458
00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:54,960
Speaker 1: in the first half of the season is who. So look, man,

459
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Speaker 1: I tried to find a different answer from your answer,

460
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Speaker 1: but like I, we just haven't. The Santrcisco forty nine

461
00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:02,960
Speaker 1: is right now have been the most impressive group. And

462
00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:05,879
Speaker 1: the reason they've been impressive is because they have five

463
00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:08,880
Speaker 1: first round is playing in their rotation and they all

464
00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:11,359
Speaker 1: are playing like first round picks, and so we talked

465
00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:15,760
Speaker 1: about investing in where we know the marquee positions are

466
00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:18,120
Speaker 1: on the football team, where the San Francisco forty nine

467
00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:19,960
Speaker 1: has haven't done that. They've done it not only through

468
00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:22,080
Speaker 1: the draft, but in free agency. They pulled over d

469
00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:24,400
Speaker 1: Ford and DeFord has played like a first round pick

470
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Speaker 1: for them. Everybody is playing at a high level, and

471
00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:30,520
Speaker 1: I guess the luxury of what they've been able to

472
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Speaker 1: do is, man, they can limit the snap counts and

473
00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:34,959
Speaker 1: these guys are fresh and they're playing from ahead. San

474
00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:37,280
Speaker 1: Francisco forty nines have been very, very impressive on the

475
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Speaker 1: defensive line. Yeah. That look, that's my answer as well.

476
00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:43,000
Speaker 1: I mean we're on the same page here when you

477
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Speaker 1: look at what they've done and adding Nick Bosa and

478
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Speaker 1: how dynamic he has been. I've said this, Look, I'll

479
00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:51,640
Speaker 1: go on reck, He's the best leverage pass rusher I've

480
00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:53,800
Speaker 1: ever evaluated, just in terms of guys that can get

481
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Speaker 1: under people and and just have tremendous power. I've never

482
00:21:57,080 --> 00:21:58,840
Speaker 1: seen anybody do it as well as he's done it.

483
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Speaker 1: So he's a actual player. Everybody else is playing at

484
00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:04,160
Speaker 1: a high level. You got those two twin towers inside,

485
00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:07,800
Speaker 1: uh with with the forest Buckner as well as Eric Armstead.

486
00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:10,760
Speaker 1: You mentioned d Ford, Solomon Thomas is coming along. Even

487
00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:13,040
Speaker 1: Ronald Blair, my guy from app State, has been rolling

488
00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:15,560
Speaker 1: through there. They've got a lot of depth running those

489
00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:17,600
Speaker 1: guys through and they're playing at a very high level.

490
00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:19,440
Speaker 1: I would just add a couple other teams here though

491
00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:22,639
Speaker 1: that probably deserves some mention. The Saints with what they've done,

492
00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:27,080
Speaker 1: very Cam Jordan's we've seen. We've seen Davenport, Marcus Davenport

493
00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:29,560
Speaker 1: take a leap forward here in his second year. That

494
00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:31,880
Speaker 1: defensive line has been very dominant. And then I would

495
00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:34,720
Speaker 1: also add maybe an underrated group, the Carolina Panthers who

496
00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:37,000
Speaker 1: did not rush the past well last year they go

497
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Speaker 1: draft Brian Burns. We've seen this group kind of take off.

498
00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:42,320
Speaker 1: Mario Addison has been a good player for him. They've

499
00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:43,639
Speaker 1: piled up a lot of sacks, So I want to

500
00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:46,040
Speaker 1: give them some love as well. No, they they certainly

501
00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:48,560
Speaker 1: have piled up some some sacks. They have been impressed.

502
00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:50,639
Speaker 1: They just didn't have a great performance against forty not

503
00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:53,720
Speaker 1: as an unfortunate for them. That is the lasting impression.

504
00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:56,000
Speaker 1: That is what you think about. And so uh they'd

505
00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:58,720
Speaker 1: be good Brian Burns. Uh, for for me and based

506
00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:01,680
Speaker 1: on my vayways, and he is been better than I anticipated.

507
00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:03,760
Speaker 1: He has made some players, got a ton of quarterback hits.

508
00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:07,400
Speaker 1: He's been very, very involved, and so for the Carolina Panthers,

509
00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:09,880
Speaker 1: he has been a part of this resurgence that they've

510
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Speaker 1: had up front. All right, let's get to the most

511
00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:16,560
Speaker 1: disappointing pass rush group, and the first half is who

512
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Speaker 1: I'm really this morning in the Philadelphia Eagles. Uh, the

513
00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:21,440
Speaker 1: Philadelphia Eagles are a team that man, for so long,

514
00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:23,480
Speaker 1: we've talked about the way that they've built this team.

515
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Speaker 1: They built this team with the front, the trenches, the

516
00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:30,440
Speaker 1: trench warriors, Uh, first and foremost, the way they prioritize

517
00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:32,760
Speaker 1: those guys on draft Day, and all the decisions they made.

518
00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:35,760
Speaker 1: And offensively they've been okay, but defensively they haven't been

519
00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:37,520
Speaker 1: able to do it. Fletcher Cox has been kind of

520
00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:39,720
Speaker 1: null and void. Now part of that is because he

521
00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:43,640
Speaker 1: hasn't played alongside a dominant player, so everyone are double teaming.

522
00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:46,240
Speaker 1: They're they're making sure that he is a non factor

523
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Speaker 1: in the past rush. But we haven't seen anybody else

524
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Speaker 1: step up. Brandon Graham, I mean there, I mean like

525
00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:56,560
Speaker 1: we're now we just haven't had enough guys show up

526
00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:59,159
Speaker 1: and that's been the disappointing thing. And so for this

527
00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:01,679
Speaker 1: why nine defense to work on the gym scares, you

528
00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:03,520
Speaker 1: have to be able to create pressure and generated with

529
00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:05,920
Speaker 1: the front four, and they just haven't been able to

530
00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:11,600
Speaker 1: do it without blitzing and exposing their corners. Yeah. Look,

531
00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:14,560
Speaker 1: they they played better against Buffalo, but you look if

532
00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:17,080
Speaker 1: you take out the game against the Jets, who are awful,

533
00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:19,240
Speaker 1: a right, one of the worst offensive lines I've ever seen.

534
00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:21,080
Speaker 1: I think they piled up ten sacks in that game.

535
00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:23,239
Speaker 1: I'm with you. I thought I expected a little bit

536
00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:26,080
Speaker 1: more production here from this Philadelphia Eagles group. Uh, They've

537
00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:28,840
Speaker 1: had flashes. They played well against the you know, the Packers,

538
00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:30,600
Speaker 1: they played well against the Bills, but haven't been as

539
00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:34,960
Speaker 1: consistent as expectation would have been. So I can understand that.

540
00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:37,760
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go Look, Atlanta Falcons have seven sacks in

541
00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:41,240
Speaker 1: eight games. They stink. Now, the Jets are another team

542
00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:43,359
Speaker 1: that can't rush the quarterback. But we knew they couldn't

543
00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:45,760
Speaker 1: rush the quarterback. There was no expectation when I look

544
00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:47,800
Speaker 1: at that Falcons team, I look at the coaching staff

545
00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:50,280
Speaker 1: they have in place. What their expertise is I look

546
00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:53,320
Speaker 1: at the first round picks they have coming off the edges.

547
00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:55,399
Speaker 1: I look at one of the better interior pass rushers

548
00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:58,000
Speaker 1: in the league in Grade Jarrett, and it's nothing, I mean,

549
00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:01,280
Speaker 1: just absolutely none thing from this group. Now we'll get

550
00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:02,919
Speaker 1: to their secondary in a minute, because they aren't very

551
00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:05,840
Speaker 1: good either, but they've been the most disappointing pass rush

552
00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:08,840
Speaker 1: to me. Yeah, really really really disappointing. I mean, just

553
00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:11,520
Speaker 1: can't get home. And if you can't get home in

554
00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:13,400
Speaker 1: this league, it makes it It makes it difficult because

555
00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:15,199
Speaker 1: you can't blitz all the time because you expose your

556
00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:17,760
Speaker 1: corners leading them in one on one situations. Most teams

557
00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:20,520
Speaker 1: would prefer to rush before so they could keep maximum protection.

558
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:23,680
Speaker 1: But with the Atlanta Fox that the Atlanta Falcons overall

559
00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:26,760
Speaker 1: have just been a very disappointing unit. Um. It's unfortunately

560
00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:28,280
Speaker 1: cause they have some good guys like dank Wind, like

561
00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:30,840
Speaker 1: Tims to Metrov, but on the field, these guys just

562
00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:34,560
Speaker 1: haven't been productive at the point of attack. All right,

563
00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:36,199
Speaker 1: give me an up and coming group here, up and

564
00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:38,840
Speaker 1: coming past rush group. This is tough because this is

565
00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:40,960
Speaker 1: one of my former teams, the Green Bay Packers. The

566
00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:43,280
Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers are up and coming because all the

567
00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:45,760
Speaker 1: moves that they've made in the offseason have really paid off.

568
00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:48,960
Speaker 1: To Darius Smith Preston Smith for Shine Gary. We've seen

569
00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:51,400
Speaker 1: their young guys show up and flash. They haven't done

570
00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:54,480
Speaker 1: it consistently, but man, the flashes have been impressive because

571
00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:57,480
Speaker 1: when they're able to flash, they generate pressure. Then comes

572
00:25:57,520 --> 00:25:59,080
Speaker 1: to turnovers. And part of the reasons they've been able

573
00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:02,080
Speaker 1: to generate so many turnovers is because the pass rush

574
00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:06,040
Speaker 1: has created uh some pressure on the quarterback. He feels

575
00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:08,639
Speaker 1: it and he has to perform under the rest This

576
00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:12,359
Speaker 1: Packers team, they go as the turnovers go, but the

577
00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:15,359
Speaker 1: turnovers come because the pass rush has been a factor

578
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:19,640
Speaker 1: has been effective for Mike Pittton. Yeah, it's a good group.

579
00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:21,760
Speaker 1: I'm gonna look forward to seeing them live in person

580
00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:24,200
Speaker 1: this week. I'm gonna go though to the to Jacksonville

581
00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:27,640
Speaker 1: Jaguars in the draft this year, Dave Caldwell and company

582
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:30,600
Speaker 1: and Tom cough when they were given a gift when

583
00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:32,880
Speaker 1: Josh Allen fell in their lap, I did not think

584
00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:34,560
Speaker 1: there's any chance he would be there when they picked.

585
00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:37,600
Speaker 1: They picked him. He's tied with Nick Bosa seven sacks

586
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:40,480
Speaker 1: amongst rookies. He's been outstanding off the edge. You've got

587
00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:44,160
Speaker 1: Yannick and gok Way, Uh the rest of that defensive front. Uh,

588
00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:46,440
Speaker 1: we're seeing guys play at a very high level. So

589
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:48,399
Speaker 1: I look at this group, I think their third in

590
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:50,239
Speaker 1: the league or something like that. In sacks. They've been

591
00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:53,159
Speaker 1: getting after the quarterback. So to me, I think a

592
00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:55,160
Speaker 1: lot of young talent. I expect them to do big

593
00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:57,720
Speaker 1: things as you come through the second half of the season. Uh,

594
00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:02,240
Speaker 1: very high, very high on this Jacksonville Jaguars pass rush. Yeah. Look, man,

595
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:06,720
Speaker 1: the Jaguars are coming Saxonville quietly is returning to fame,

596
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:10,080
Speaker 1: and look the things are are kind of kind of doing, uh,

597
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:13,159
Speaker 1: kind of coming together for the squad. So I'm excited

598
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:15,720
Speaker 1: to see what it plays out. Now. The thing that

599
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:19,560
Speaker 1: you're talking about with the Jaguars, Um, I just like

600
00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:22,119
Speaker 1: the way the pieces of the puzzle fit, and I

601
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:25,199
Speaker 1: think sometimes we just underestimate how important it is for

602
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:27,240
Speaker 1: it to be balanced. I think the moves that it made,

603
00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:30,240
Speaker 1: Josh Allen coming on like Gangbusters, Tavin Bryant has been

604
00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:32,159
Speaker 1: kind of coming on, and then we've seen the steady

605
00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:35,640
Speaker 1: Eddie Calais Candle those guys. Yeah, it just really really

606
00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:37,440
Speaker 1: works for the Jaguars. So hats off to them for

607
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:38,879
Speaker 1: kind of getting it right at the point of attack.

608
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:43,120
Speaker 1: And Jacks fans don't forget you. You got some extra

609
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:44,639
Speaker 1: picks come in your way as a result of that

610
00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:47,200
Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey trade as well, so they've got a chance

611
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:49,399
Speaker 1: to really update the upgrade the rest of their roster

612
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:52,359
Speaker 1: here in the upcoming off season. All right, let's let's

613
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:56,280
Speaker 1: go to the secondary buck and let's go most impressive group.

614
00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:58,760
Speaker 1: Who do you have? I mean, I think this is easy.

615
00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:00,560
Speaker 1: I think you and I see it from the same

616
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:03,080
Speaker 1: thing to New England Patriots. Yeah, they have to be

617
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:06,439
Speaker 1: assolute the most impressive group. The way the Patriots are

618
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:09,080
Speaker 1: able to play, Uh, it's impressive. And normally when you

619
00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:11,240
Speaker 1: see someone that that see a team that has eighteen

620
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:14,480
Speaker 1: nineteen interceptions, it's already impressive. But then the way they're

621
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:18,879
Speaker 1: doing it, playing sixty almost sixty of the coverages man demand.

622
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:22,320
Speaker 1: So this is a team that is just challenging everything

623
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:24,200
Speaker 1: that you do. Their guys are locked up in man

624
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:26,320
Speaker 1: demand and not getting a lot of help from anybody else,

625
00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:29,840
Speaker 1: and they're just suffocating passing games. And I know everyone say, well,

626
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:32,000
Speaker 1: what quarterbacks that they played again, it doesn't matter all

627
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:35,280
Speaker 1: these guys in NFL players, Uh, these quarterbacks can hurt you.

628
00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 1: We've seen them hurt you at various times in their careers.

629
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:41,760
Speaker 1: And the New England Patris have just bottled up everybody. Uh,

630
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 1: they deserve to be at the top of the list.

631
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:47,760
Speaker 1: Think about these numbers here real quick. The teams have

632
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:50,080
Speaker 1: thrown the ball against the New England Patriots two hundred

633
00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 1: and seventy three times. During that time, the Patriots have

634
00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 1: picked off nineteen of those two hundred and seventy three throws,

635
00:28:57,360 --> 00:29:01,760
Speaker 1: and they've allowed two touchdowns. This is eight games they've

636
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:05,120
Speaker 1: allowed two passing touchdowns and eight games. Uh, I mean,

637
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:06,680
Speaker 1: I know, Look, I don't care who you're playing against.

638
00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:09,040
Speaker 1: I know what. The quarterbacks they've played against have been great. Uh.

639
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:11,440
Speaker 1: The teams that the records haven't been great, they'll see

640
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:14,080
Speaker 1: better competition in the second half. But I don't know

641
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:16,000
Speaker 1: if I've ever seen anything like that, Buck, I mean,

642
00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:17,960
Speaker 1: there's just that you can't get anything on this group

643
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:20,880
Speaker 1: and you're right there in your face. Um, they're smart.

644
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:25,200
Speaker 1: They marry their pressures with their coverages beautifully. Um, it's

645
00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:27,640
Speaker 1: uh it's something to watch. It's been it's been teaching

646
00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:29,719
Speaker 1: tape for the rest of the league. It absolutely has been.

647
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:31,480
Speaker 1: Teaching tape. Has been something that like, look, as a

648
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:33,200
Speaker 1: high school coach, I'm sitting there looking at them and

649
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:35,400
Speaker 1: just being like, Wow, you can really get away. We're

650
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:37,440
Speaker 1: playing man to man that much. And yes they have

651
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:40,600
Speaker 1: some talent, but they're also some undrafted guys in their group,

652
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 1: And I just think, is the teaching, the coaching, the

653
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 1: player development, and then the talent where these guys are

654
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:49,959
Speaker 1: really suited to play man to man? All of it

655
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:53,760
Speaker 1: is working in the secondary in New England. All right,

656
00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:56,600
Speaker 1: let's go to most disappointing secondary in the first half.

657
00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 1: It's funny because the most disappointed secondary no longer exists now,

658
00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:01,640
Speaker 1: but gonna say this, the l A Rams were the

659
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:04,120
Speaker 1: most disappointed secondary because the key to leave and Marcus

660
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:07,120
Speaker 1: Peters didn't play like we expected them to play like

661
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:09,000
Speaker 1: they were having a tough time stand with their men,

662
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:11,040
Speaker 1: and they were coverage bust and we saw big plays

663
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:13,880
Speaker 1: and explosive plays in The quickest way to lose games

664
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Speaker 1: in the National Football League is to let the ball

665
00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:18,200
Speaker 1: fly over the head of the defense. And that's what

666
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:19,760
Speaker 1: was happening in l A. So you know what the

667
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 1: l A Rams did covered to both of them. A

668
00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:24,080
Speaker 1: key to leave his name in Miami. Marcus Peters is

669
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Speaker 1: in Baltimore. He'll upgrade the Baltimore secondary because of the

670
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:30,440
Speaker 1: way he plays. But I've never been more disappointed in

671
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Speaker 1: a group that I thought was going to be a

672
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:35,479
Speaker 1: star collection of one to punch in a perimeter than

673
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:37,000
Speaker 1: I was with the L A Rams in the way

674
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:41,960
Speaker 1: that Marcus Peters gonna key to league played this season well.

675
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Speaker 1: And look that they have an opportunity to try and

676
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:46,560
Speaker 1: get this thing turned around. Now they've got a chance.

677
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:48,720
Speaker 1: Now the record is still solid, they're in good positionary

678
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:51,160
Speaker 1: to get in the postseason. See if this new collection

679
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:53,280
Speaker 1: of names can get it done. Uh. Look, the worst

680
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:55,840
Speaker 1: secondary in the league is Arizona Cardinals, but my expectations

681
00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:58,720
Speaker 1: were not high for them, especially with Patrick Peterson. You

682
00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:00,840
Speaker 1: knew what the suspension was gonna for that back end.

683
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:02,400
Speaker 1: So they've been the worst. But in terms of the

684
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 1: most disappointing, I gotta double up. I'm gonna go back

685
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:07,560
Speaker 1: to the Atlanta Falcons. I said their pass rush was

686
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:10,280
Speaker 1: the most disappointing to me. Their secondary is the most disappointing.

687
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 1: We mentioned the Patriots and their secondary, uh, you know,

688
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:15,520
Speaker 1: only having allowed two touchdowns picked off nine team balls.

689
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:18,960
Speaker 1: It's the exact opposite for the Atlanta Falcons. They've allowed

690
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 1: nineteen passing touchdowns and they've picked off two balls. That

691
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:25,200
Speaker 1: is not a good ratio. So they've given up all

692
00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:28,240
Speaker 1: kinds of plays. There's been coverage bus guys running wide open.

693
00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 1: You go back and watch some of these games, Uh,

694
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:33,040
Speaker 1: particularly the Houston game where they're just turning guys wide

695
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:36,360
Speaker 1: open when they're rushing three and dropping eight. It's inexcusable.

696
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:38,840
Speaker 1: So to me, that's been the most disappointing group. I mean,

697
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:42,360
Speaker 1: very disappointing. You just you just expect more UM and

698
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 1: you're not getting it. And so look, man, you don't

699
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:48,560
Speaker 1: want to keep crushing people. But many everything, everything on

700
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:50,520
Speaker 1: this team that we we could fill out this team

701
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:53,840
Speaker 1: in all of these spots with exceptional wide receiver UM

702
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:57,840
Speaker 1: just a huge disappointment, maybe the biggest disappointment of the year. Alright, buck,

703
00:31:57,880 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 1: let's keep it moving here. Uh, an up and coming

704
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:01,960
Speaker 1: group there in the secondary you're high on. You know,

705
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 1: it's funny that this is an up and coming group.

706
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 1: But I think they arrived last year. How about the

707
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:08,720
Speaker 1: New Orleans Saints and the way that they're playing defense. Um,

708
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:10,880
Speaker 1: all of their pieces of the puzzle of fit really

709
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:12,760
Speaker 1: really well. And Dennis Allen has done a great job.

710
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:15,000
Speaker 1: He and Aaron Glenn have done a great job of

711
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:17,479
Speaker 1: developing their young guys. Marcus Lattimore and those guys are

712
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:20,320
Speaker 1: kind of stepping up and making plays. Um, this defense

713
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:23,760
Speaker 1: is just solid. They're solid because they make you earn

714
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 1: every yard as you get in the passing game while

715
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:28,640
Speaker 1: not conceding a lot of big plays. If you want

716
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:31,320
Speaker 1: to play good defensive National Football League, those things two

717
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:33,040
Speaker 1: things have to be at the top of your priority.

718
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:35,360
Speaker 1: And so the fact that Dennis Allen has those guys

719
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 1: playing and playing well and adhering to their standard speaks

720
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 1: volumes about the coaching and teaching and the talent that

721
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:45,040
Speaker 1: they have down to New Orleans. That group's played really

722
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:47,360
Speaker 1: well and that entire defense has played great. I'm gonna

723
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:49,640
Speaker 1: go to the Green Bay Packers and we talked about

724
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:52,640
Speaker 1: building receiving corps and having different body types like a

725
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:55,040
Speaker 1: basketball team. You can say the same for the secondary

726
00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:57,760
Speaker 1: and this group with Mike Patton and company. There in

727
00:32:57,760 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 1: Green Bay, and you have Kevin King, who's done a

728
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:01,800
Speaker 1: nice job matching up some of those bigger wide receivers.

729
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 1: R Alexander one of the better all around young corners

730
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 1: in the NFL. Different sizes, different skill sets, really good

731
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:09,920
Speaker 1: football players. And then you look at the rookie. Now

732
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:11,760
Speaker 1: he's been injured a little bit, but Darnell Savage when

733
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 1: he's been out there has been flying all over the field,

734
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:17,040
Speaker 1: making big time plays. He's been impressive of maybe a

735
00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:18,640
Speaker 1: little bit of a surprise when he was picked there

736
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:20,320
Speaker 1: in the first round, but he has lived up to it.

737
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:22,520
Speaker 1: And then Adrian Amos coming over from the Bears, Uh,

738
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:24,680
Speaker 1: steady Eddie, solid player. I think this is a really

739
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:27,480
Speaker 1: good group that's going to continue to improve. Yeah. Absolutely,

740
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 1: they're gonna continue to improve because it is coming on

741
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:32,360
Speaker 1: like game. But so the investment, the investment in the

742
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:35,520
Speaker 1: back end. Uh, we're seeing years and years of these

743
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 1: guys being drafted finally getting on the field, finally have

744
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 1: an opportunity to make plays, and they're doing it because

745
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 1: the pass rush is better. So then when the pass

746
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:44,520
Speaker 1: rush is better, the ball comes out the coverage and

747
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 1: the pass rush is married. Uh. Great job by the packers,

748
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 1: kind of getting it together, getting it done. Russome takes

749
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:56,240
Speaker 1: us that he's gonna throw down. Feel touch down, Hawks, Russe,

750
00:33:56,240 --> 00:34:01,240
Speaker 1: We'll get right out of the touchdown. Say how Russell Lake?

751
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:02,760
Speaker 1: And now he's going to throw to the back of

752
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:07,280
Speaker 1: the end zone down. How in the world did you

753
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:10,960
Speaker 1: get that through? The perfect past by Russell Wilson, Good

754
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 1: Low Well on the Move the six Podcast. We love

755
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:18,880
Speaker 1: studying great players. Learn more about him and Russell Wilson

756
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:21,120
Speaker 1: would obviously classify as one of the best quarterbacks in

757
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:23,480
Speaker 1: the National Football League, probably the front runner right now

758
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 1: for the m v P Awards. So to learn a

759
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:27,560
Speaker 1: little bit more about Russell Wilson, we're bringing on our

760
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 1: buddy Jake Keeps to join the show as a former

761
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:32,919
Speaker 1: teammate of Russell Wilson. But more importantly, he's a he's

762
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:35,400
Speaker 1: a partner with Russell Wilson, working with him, training him

763
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:37,759
Speaker 1: in the off season. Uh. He's the head of the

764
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:41,200
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson QB Academy and one of the best mentors

765
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:43,920
Speaker 1: for young quarterbacks in the country. Right now, Jake, how

766
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:46,960
Speaker 1: you doing, man, I'm doing fantastic. How are you guys?

767
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:49,759
Speaker 1: We're doing great? And uh, we're looking forward to this.

768
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:52,480
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously I remember scouting you going through the

769
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:55,239
Speaker 1: draft process and you end up spending time up there

770
00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:59,479
Speaker 1: in Seattle, and and you really just became really close

771
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:01,719
Speaker 1: there with so Wilson. You guys have really developed a

772
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:04,279
Speaker 1: partnership going forward. I'd love to know just kind of

773
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:06,239
Speaker 1: the first time you met Russ and and what that

774
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:10,120
Speaker 1: was like. Yeah, obviously being teammates with him in sixteen

775
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:13,239
Speaker 1: is really when it started. And my mentality when I

776
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 1: came into the building was I wanted to beat Russ.

777
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:18,480
Speaker 1: I wanted to beat him and everything that I possibly

778
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 1: could do, whether it was you know, showing up to

779
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:22,840
Speaker 1: the facility, which he shows up at about probably like

780
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:25,120
Speaker 1: five five thirty every single day, so that was quite

781
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:28,600
Speaker 1: a challenge, uh, and trying to show him that I

782
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 1: knew the playbook as much as I possibly could and

783
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:34,359
Speaker 1: try and beat him a practice and in practice. Uh.

784
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 1: You know, now Deshaun Watson has him as his QUB coach,

785
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:41,400
Speaker 1: but Carl Smith would always greate us in practice based

786
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 1: off of how we were doing and with every pass

787
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 1: and have a grading scale based off of that. And

788
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:48,799
Speaker 1: and my goal was to try and beat Russell every

789
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:51,439
Speaker 1: day and during training camp, I had like a ten

790
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:54,399
Speaker 1: game stretch, you ten day stretch you might not admit that,

791
00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:58,359
Speaker 1: but ten day stretch where I was winning every day.

792
00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:02,120
Speaker 1: So it was just a competitive friendly environment that we

793
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 1: had in the in the room, and I think it

794
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:07,560
Speaker 1: was something where he respected my approach and to the

795
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:11,680
Speaker 1: game and and trying to be a good backup quarterback

796
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:14,719
Speaker 1: for him. And and we really sparked a relationship from

797
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:17,759
Speaker 1: there and turned into Hey, he knew that I was

798
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:20,160
Speaker 1: doing training in the off seasons on the side with

799
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 1: high school kids and wanted to be a part of that.

800
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:25,560
Speaker 1: And so it's been a really fun relationship that we've

801
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:29,280
Speaker 1: had in business. But then it also turned into personal

802
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:32,279
Speaker 1: where he's starting to look at things and go, yeah,

803
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 1: I want to get better in my game, and I

804
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:36,560
Speaker 1: see that there's areas for me to improve and and

805
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 1: asking me to help in that. And over the last

806
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:42,880
Speaker 1: two seasons is we've worked together very closely off the field. Um,

807
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:45,400
Speaker 1: it's it's been a it's been a blast, uh, you know,

808
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:49,200
Speaker 1: working together and helping him really sharpen his skills. And

809
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 1: again it's not taking Russell Wilson from you know, a

810
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 1: completely different player and making him something different. You don't

811
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:57,640
Speaker 1: do that with the greats. All you're trying to do

812
00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 1: is just help them get even if it's just one person,

813
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:02,319
Speaker 1: and better find one thing to help them get one

814
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:05,279
Speaker 1: percent better. That's really what it comes down to. You know, Jay,

815
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 1: what you what you talking about is a very unique

816
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:10,320
Speaker 1: relationship because, uh, we all have been in locker rooms

817
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:13,920
Speaker 1: and sometimes in the position groups. That competitive nature can

818
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:16,239
Speaker 1: kind of make it very very difficult and challenging for

819
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:18,400
Speaker 1: you to build a friendship. But it seems like you

820
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:21,279
Speaker 1: guys were able to do it. Um, when you are

821
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 1: going in and you're slated to be a backup quarterback,

822
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:28,239
Speaker 1: what is that relationship typically like between backup quarterback and

823
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 1: starter when it comes to sharing information and doing the

824
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 1: things that you're supposed to do in the position room

825
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 1: to really make the team better. Yeah, it's it's vital.

826
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:40,839
Speaker 1: I think first and foremost, you're doing everything you can

827
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:43,800
Speaker 1: individually to try and help yourself make the team first,

828
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:46,440
Speaker 1: but you also have to show that you can be

829
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 1: a great support system for the starter. And there's a

830
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 1: couple of different ways. Some guys they really want confidence,

831
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 1: They want guys that they can lean into and talk

832
00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:57,360
Speaker 1: to about certain things that's going on and have that

833
00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:00,080
Speaker 1: trusted voice to give them sound advice. And then the

834
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 1: the other side of it, where guys are just extremely

835
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:05,719
Speaker 1: smart xs and ohs. They can provide background, they can

836
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:09,399
Speaker 1: give little tips into what they're seeing in film study. Uh,

837
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:11,760
Speaker 1: and maybe even the starter gives them a certain project

838
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 1: that I want you to take over third downs for

839
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:16,040
Speaker 1: me this week. H really look at that and come

840
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:18,719
Speaker 1: give me a report. So the backup quarterback plays a

841
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:20,960
Speaker 1: vital role. And if you have a great one or

842
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:23,399
Speaker 1: one that the starter trust, that's when you really got

843
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:26,440
Speaker 1: a special room. And and uh, that's what it should be.

844
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:29,920
Speaker 1: It should be an ecosystem. Everybody in the quarterback room,

845
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:33,520
Speaker 1: from the quarterback coach to the assistant QB coach to

846
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:36,319
Speaker 1: the backups, they should all be there to support that

847
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 1: starter as much as possible. Well, I want to ask

848
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:42,840
Speaker 1: you about, um, just the time management of Russell Wilson,

849
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:45,680
Speaker 1: because I've heard some I would call him borderline legendary

850
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:49,799
Speaker 1: stories about how killed and how regimented his day is.

851
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:52,279
Speaker 1: So I know you know the inner workings there. And

852
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:54,800
Speaker 1: when people talk about it being a commitment to play

853
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 1: the quarterback position in the NFL, it's not a hobby.

854
00:38:57,320 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 1: It is a commitment. Can you give everybody an idea

855
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 1: of kind of what that time management, what that schedule

856
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 1: looks like for Russell. Yeah, it's very unique. And for Russell,

857
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:10,120
Speaker 1: it's not just all the things that he does in

858
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:13,359
Speaker 1: the building, it's outside the building that's really special. And

859
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 1: and he starts his day off, like I said, he

860
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:19,640
Speaker 1: gets to the v MAC, which is the Seahawks practice facility,

861
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:22,239
Speaker 1: around five thirty six every single day. I mean he's

862
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 1: already had spent at least an hour or so, maybe

863
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:29,840
Speaker 1: two hours before that doing even more work, which is

864
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:33,440
Speaker 1: film work, which is uh preparation with uh you know,

865
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:37,880
Speaker 1: his body team that he has physical trainers, massage therapists,

866
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:40,920
Speaker 1: uh you know, his own personal trainer. The whole works

867
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 1: to get his body right. And I've seen this guy

868
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:46,480
Speaker 1: take on or sustain injuries throughout a week where it

869
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:49,160
Speaker 1: would take out most starters in this league, and he

870
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:51,239
Speaker 1: powers through it and he does everything that he can

871
00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 1: to get his body right and continue to do that.

872
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 1: I think two thousand sixteen, ironically, the year that I

873
00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:00,600
Speaker 1: was there, was the most one of the most difficult

874
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:04,279
Speaker 1: years for him. He sustained those two heavy injuries to

875
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:07,759
Speaker 1: his leg and uh, it was it was crazy the

876
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:09,920
Speaker 1: prep that he did just to get himself to even

877
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:12,799
Speaker 1: play UM. I always joke with him that he cost

878
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:15,319
Speaker 1: me a lot of money that year that, uh, you know,

879
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:18,879
Speaker 1: that was an opportunity for me to get activated and

880
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:21,160
Speaker 1: get some game checks. And uh, you know, he's so

881
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 1: stubborn and through his preparation was able to give himself

882
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:26,920
Speaker 1: to play. But you know, he really takes it seriously.

883
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:30,319
Speaker 1: The work that he puts in UM is second to none.

884
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:32,920
Speaker 1: And and every single hour of every single day is

885
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 1: regiment to dj uh And it's it's something that he

886
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:39,279
Speaker 1: has people helping him with to make sure that he's

887
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:42,560
Speaker 1: staying on schedule UM every day. So it's it's a commitment,

888
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:44,759
Speaker 1: like you said, it's a commitment. It's a desire, it's

889
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 1: a passion to be great, and it's not just something

890
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:50,120
Speaker 1: that he talks about. He lives through it daily, which

891
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:54,360
Speaker 1: is very impressive. As we all know, it's easy to

892
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:56,960
Speaker 1: do the lonely work when things are going great. It's

893
00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:59,799
Speaker 1: hard when it's hard to be consistent. It's hard to

894
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:01,880
Speaker 1: do it when things are going tough, and just on

895
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:04,840
Speaker 1: a daily basis, and that's something that I believe Russell

896
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:08,200
Speaker 1: does better than anybody else. You know, and thinking about Russell,

897
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 1: what Russell is being able to do is really UM

898
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:15,320
Speaker 1: open up a gateway for all of these maybe undersized

899
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:18,000
Speaker 1: dual threat quarterbacks to come into the league. And even

900
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:20,279
Speaker 1: though Russell and my estimation, didn't play like a dual

901
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:23,120
Speaker 1: threat quarterback when he played at the NC State and

902
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:27,000
Speaker 1: then at Wisconsin, he is allowed UH general managers to

903
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:31,799
Speaker 1: envision UH an athletic quarterback manning the position. So when

904
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 1: you look at Russell and you look at his style

905
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:37,760
Speaker 1: of play, how difficult is it for UH a level

906
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 1: athlete to harness some of the athleticism and have the

907
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:46,120
Speaker 1: discipline to play in the pocket. That's a great question, Bucky,

908
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:48,880
Speaker 1: because I think that's one of the hardest things for

909
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:51,520
Speaker 1: evaluators to do. And you guys can speak to it

910
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:53,279
Speaker 1: because you guys have been there and done that. But

911
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:56,279
Speaker 1: UH is to take a Russell Wilson, who is so

912
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:58,839
Speaker 1: unique because he was a guy that has always been,

913
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:00,799
Speaker 1: like you said in his call each career has been

914
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 1: a passer first who just happened to have freakish ability

915
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 1: to extend plays and and UH and and do special

916
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 1: things uh like that, and everybody else has taken players

917
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:18,160
Speaker 1: that are run first oriented guys and try and make

918
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:22,400
Speaker 1: them pocket passers. And I think time has uh shown

919
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 1: over and over again that it's really hard to make

920
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:28,319
Speaker 1: those transitions. And now you're seeing younger guys starting to

921
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:30,440
Speaker 1: fit in more of that mold Baker may feel being

922
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 1: more of a pocket guy than a runner. I even

923
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:35,239
Speaker 1: think Kyler Murray fits into that as well. Although he

924
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:38,719
Speaker 1: has special unique traits, he played a lot from the

925
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:42,120
Speaker 1: pocket um and I think Russell was really that first

926
00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:44,040
Speaker 1: guy to do it. And I think that's where evaluators

927
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:47,239
Speaker 1: get wrong. And that's where Lamar Jackson is going to

928
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 1: be a fascinating study over the next couple of years

929
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:53,480
Speaker 1: because Lamar obviously has grown a lot in year two

930
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:56,400
Speaker 1: as a as a pocket passer, and they've done a fantastic,

931
00:42:56,480 --> 00:43:00,480
Speaker 1: fantastic job. You talk about ecosystem, they created great system

932
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:04,040
Speaker 1: there um. But it's easier to take a pocket passer

933
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 1: and allow him to extend and do special things. That's

934
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:10,400
Speaker 1: why Russell has been so unique uh in this league.

935
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:15,080
Speaker 1: Is I think that's where people uh try to limit

936
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:17,920
Speaker 1: Russell in terms of what he is is. Uh, He's

937
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:20,359
Speaker 1: this guy who just extends plays and is great out

938
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:24,360
Speaker 1: of structure. Uh. He's been great instructure within the pocket

939
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:27,319
Speaker 1: for eight years now. He just happens to have an

940
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:31,239
Speaker 1: amazing highlight real plays of him extending the pocket and

941
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:34,160
Speaker 1: and making defenses pay from there. All right, We're gonna

942
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 1: get to some tape here because I want to get

943
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:37,919
Speaker 1: your thoughts on the three things Russell does as well

944
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 1: or better than anybody else in the NFL. Before I

945
00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:41,239
Speaker 1: do that, I want to test one theory that I've

946
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:43,840
Speaker 1: had with you. Uh. And it goes along with Lamar

947
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:47,200
Speaker 1: Jackson and talking about Russell, because what I study Russell,

948
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 1: one of the things that always jumps out to me

949
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:51,960
Speaker 1: is how great a job he does protecting himself when

950
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:54,719
Speaker 1: he does take off and run and they they just

951
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:58,200
Speaker 1: barely sprinkle in some design quarterback run zone read stuff.

952
00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:00,680
Speaker 1: A lot of it is just Russ in a asking play,

953
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:04,040
Speaker 1: organically finding space and taking it. And when I studied

954
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:06,120
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson, I mean they're there. Early in the season,

955
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:09,279
Speaker 1: there were thirteen design quarterback runs in one game and

956
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:11,920
Speaker 1: it was way it's way too much for me. And

957
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:14,360
Speaker 1: when you watch him take off as a scrambler, I

958
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 1: think and it might even have been. In that Seattle

959
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:18,759
Speaker 1: game we had three scrambles for like like sixty or

960
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:20,799
Speaker 1: seventy yards or something like that. I'm like, he can

961
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:23,319
Speaker 1: still get those same yards. Just let it come out

962
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:25,399
Speaker 1: of the function of the offense when he can see

963
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:27,360
Speaker 1: it and take it, because I just have had the

964
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:30,319
Speaker 1: theory you can protect yourself a lot better on a

965
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:32,640
Speaker 1: scramble than you can in a design quarterback rund just

966
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:36,239
Speaker 1: because the space is so much different. Oh. Absolutely, That's

967
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:38,839
Speaker 1: a huge part of it. And that's where Russell when

968
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:41,800
Speaker 1: we go back to this conversation of where they pocket

969
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 1: pastors are the guys. Are they guys that operate from

970
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:46,920
Speaker 1: the pocket, can do that and function from there and

971
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:49,200
Speaker 1: translate in the NFL? Or are they guys that you

972
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:52,920
Speaker 1: have to teach and really be a project too? For Lamar,

973
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:54,640
Speaker 1: I think part of it though, is is that that's

974
00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:56,880
Speaker 1: how he gets into a rhythm of the game. Is

975
00:44:56,960 --> 00:45:00,239
Speaker 1: he is a all around football player that enjoy ways

976
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:03,880
Speaker 1: that quarterback run aspect and it helps him settle into

977
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:06,920
Speaker 1: games at times. Uh. And it will be interesting to

978
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:09,960
Speaker 1: watch over time how that comes together for him. Is

979
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 1: does he evolve more into the pocket, does the fact

980
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:16,040
Speaker 1: that like r G three. You're using so many quarterback

981
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 1: runs on a slender type of body, that is, are

982
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:21,600
Speaker 1: those going to stack up for him over time? That's

983
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:25,240
Speaker 1: what you're concerned about. And Russell has always been great

984
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 1: about understanding awareness of space and even when he's asked

985
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:31,880
Speaker 1: to do the zone replays, I mean, he's only taking

986
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:35,000
Speaker 1: it one or two times a game. That and that's it.

987
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:38,799
Speaker 1: You know, it's really him letting the defense, uh, you know,

988
00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:41,279
Speaker 1: dictate to him if he's gonna take care of if

989
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:44,280
Speaker 1: he's gonna run with the ball. And and sometimes Russell

990
00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:47,720
Speaker 1: is at his best when he's being decisive in the pocket,

991
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:50,400
Speaker 1: seeing a lane and and and going and taking it.

992
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:54,040
Speaker 1: But to your point, I think that's why Russell has

993
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:57,160
Speaker 1: had this long shriek of being able to start as

994
00:45:57,160 --> 00:45:59,840
Speaker 1: many games as he's had in his eight seasons. Be

995
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:02,800
Speaker 1: as he does protect himself. He does have great awareness

996
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:05,160
Speaker 1: and he knows the spots when to go for it

997
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:07,960
Speaker 1: and when to live for another down. You know what's

998
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:12,120
Speaker 1: funny when you study athletic quarterbacks, of mobile quarterbacks, typically

999
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:15,319
Speaker 1: they have a tendency. Uh, most right handed quarterbacks tend

1000
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:17,520
Speaker 1: to drift to their right. Uh. Maybe it's a little

1001
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:20,520
Speaker 1: easier to throw to the right. Um, let's pop on

1002
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:23,600
Speaker 1: some tape of Russell Wilson making some plays and you

1003
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:25,440
Speaker 1: just kind of break down what you see and just

1004
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:28,320
Speaker 1: kind of take us through, um, kind of the Russell

1005
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:32,319
Speaker 1: Wilson experience as you see him play from the pocket. Yeah,

1006
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:34,520
Speaker 1: this is this is this first one, Jacksons, you're gonna

1007
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:36,759
Speaker 1: see it. Here's him rolling out and we'll see what

1008
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:38,560
Speaker 1: he does on the move. I'm just curious, what are

1009
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:41,719
Speaker 1: the key teaching points with the guy throwing on the move? Yeah.

1010
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:43,799
Speaker 1: I think the big thing for Russell is you've seen

1011
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:45,880
Speaker 1: in the past a lot of times he is retreating

1012
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 1: and if you notice in this video, I think over

1013
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:50,279
Speaker 1: the last two years is what he's really grown in

1014
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:52,680
Speaker 1: is is stepping up in the pocket and also keeping

1015
00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:56,720
Speaker 1: his eyes down field as he is scrambling. It's something

1016
00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:58,800
Speaker 1: he's always been able to find. Guys, But you notice

1017
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 1: he retreats and if you could play it one more time,

1018
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:05,800
Speaker 1: although he retreats backwards, his eyes are downfield, always moving

1019
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:08,279
Speaker 1: forward at the same time. That's something that we've really,

1020
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:11,400
Speaker 1: you know, emphasized and tried to work on. And so

1021
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:13,759
Speaker 1: when you watch Russell work this year. A lot of

1022
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:16,719
Speaker 1: it is stepping up into the pocket, making sure he's

1023
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:19,239
Speaker 1: coming down, and it's just a little manipulation. See how

1024
00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:21,480
Speaker 1: fast he got the ball out. Even when he's in

1025
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:24,239
Speaker 1: that scramble mode, he knows where he wants to go

1026
00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:27,200
Speaker 1: with the football. The rams here actually they show a

1027
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:30,480
Speaker 1: man uh they show man indicators and play zone out

1028
00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:32,879
Speaker 1: of it. And Russell knows that a keep to leave

1029
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:36,040
Speaker 1: is trying to play two on one there, and he

1030
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:38,719
Speaker 1: just needs to make a keep commit to one guy

1031
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:40,399
Speaker 1: so that he can make him pay with the other.

1032
00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:42,719
Speaker 1: And those are the little things right now. As as

1033
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:45,480
Speaker 1: he's playing M v P type ball, that's because he

1034
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:49,799
Speaker 1: is operating at that level mentally knowing that hey, I

1035
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:51,600
Speaker 1: got a I got a corner here that's trying to

1036
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:55,160
Speaker 1: you know, play the seam and also the outside route.

1037
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:57,440
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna make this one little adjustment here to

1038
00:47:57,480 --> 00:47:59,239
Speaker 1: get him to bite and do what I want him

1039
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:01,279
Speaker 1: to do. What you were kind of explaining there and

1040
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:03,520
Speaker 1: what I saw as well when you study him. A

1041
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 1: lot of times you can look at quarterbacks on the

1042
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:07,640
Speaker 1: move with the accuracy either it's there, it's not there.

1043
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:09,719
Speaker 1: A lot of times you can see are your shoulders.

1044
00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:12,120
Speaker 1: Once once you release the ball, is your momentum taking

1045
00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:13,920
Speaker 1: you down the field, as your momentum taking you to

1046
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 1: the sideline. Russell does a phenomenal job. Whether it's to

1047
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 1: the right or to the left, he's his all his

1048
00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:22,719
Speaker 1: effort and momentum is going forward. He's not falling off. Yeah,

1049
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:24,839
Speaker 1: and that's something we really work on a lot. Uh.

1050
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:26,800
Speaker 1: You know, there's been times where he's gotten in trouble

1051
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:30,200
Speaker 1: doing that, and he is one of the greatest fixers.

1052
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:33,360
Speaker 1: I think that's something that you know, people may not

1053
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:35,879
Speaker 1: have taken note with Russell as he continues to get

1054
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:39,600
Speaker 1: better every single year. When he had Max Unger as

1055
00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:42,120
Speaker 1: his center, they let Max take care of the protection

1056
00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:43,960
Speaker 1: calls when he was just getting his feet wet into

1057
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:46,560
Speaker 1: the league. Max leaves to go to the Saints. Now

1058
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:50,120
Speaker 1: he has to take over protection calls and responsibilities, and

1059
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:54,200
Speaker 1: now he is at a PhD level in protection calls.

1060
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:56,759
Speaker 1: The other side of it is now, I think when

1061
00:48:56,760 --> 00:48:58,680
Speaker 1: you look at it in terms of the Aaron Rodgers,

1062
00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:01,800
Speaker 1: the Tom Brady's, the Peyton innings at the line of scrimmage,

1063
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:05,880
Speaker 1: Russell is on that level now dictating two defense is uh,

1064
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:08,239
Speaker 1: you know, taking what he sees and reacting to that

1065
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:11,239
Speaker 1: and getting them in the proper cause. So Russell, to me,

1066
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:14,040
Speaker 1: you know things that he has always you know, if

1067
00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:16,879
Speaker 1: there's something in his game that he struggled with, he's

1068
00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 1: always continued to look to get better. You know, in

1069
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:22,879
Speaker 1: the last two years, you know, he's really gotten significantly better.

1070
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:25,279
Speaker 1: From the pocket. He's always been great, but you see

1071
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:28,320
Speaker 1: him being more comfortable, I should say, from that area,

1072
00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:31,799
Speaker 1: dealing from the pocket um and taking what's given. So

1073
00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:34,160
Speaker 1: I think that's that's the part in Russell's game that

1074
00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:35,680
Speaker 1: you have to love. It's almost kind of like a

1075
00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:38,960
Speaker 1: Michael Jordan's mentality. Oh you say that I can't, uh,

1076
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:42,640
Speaker 1: you know, lead the league in in scoring in a year. Okay,

1077
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:46,160
Speaker 1: I'll go do that and prove you wrong. Assist be

1078
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:48,799
Speaker 1: a defensive Player of the Year that, yeah, I'll go

1079
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:51,960
Speaker 1: take care of that. To me, that's that's Russell's mentality.

1080
00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:54,560
Speaker 1: You know, when you look at quarterbacks, a lot of

1081
00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:56,239
Speaker 1: guys have the mentality you want to push the ball

1082
00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:58,560
Speaker 1: down the field as as often as they can because

1083
00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:01,319
Speaker 1: the explosive plays him in the passing game, especially when

1084
00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:04,040
Speaker 1: you generate those big plays. But I look at Russell

1085
00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:05,800
Speaker 1: Wilson throw the d ball. He throws one of the

1086
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:08,399
Speaker 1: prettiest deep balls I think we can find. Uh, take

1087
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:11,560
Speaker 1: a look at this video and just explain to everyone

1088
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:14,080
Speaker 1: what you're seeing when you watch Russell Wilson pushed the

1089
00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:17,719
Speaker 1: ball down to field. Yeah, when the Seahawks are able

1090
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:20,080
Speaker 1: to get the run game going, they're able to create

1091
00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:21,719
Speaker 1: this space. You see how much space there is for

1092
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:25,520
Speaker 1: Russell right there. Uh, sometimes that is rare for Russell.

1093
00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:28,399
Speaker 1: You know, you look at prool Football Focus, Russell's playing

1094
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:33,000
Speaker 1: behind the best offensive line in terms of pass grade

1095
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:36,200
Speaker 1: efficiency and and sometimes this play action pass allows them

1096
00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:38,200
Speaker 1: to get to there. When you go back and watch

1097
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:40,360
Speaker 1: this tape, now you see the space that he's working

1098
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:43,000
Speaker 1: with but allows him to have a great base. And

1099
00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:45,600
Speaker 1: when he's able to have that base at the top

1100
00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:48,520
Speaker 1: of his drop, there's nobody better in the league in

1101
00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:51,719
Speaker 1: my opinion, down the field with the football um and

1102
00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:55,560
Speaker 1: this is a great route concept that the Seahawks have

1103
00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:57,759
Speaker 1: been able to take advantage of. Tyler Lockett is so

1104
00:50:57,840 --> 00:51:00,920
Speaker 1: special in these deep play action passes situations with these

1105
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:03,480
Speaker 1: deep crosses and commands a lot of attention. And on

1106
00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:06,160
Speaker 1: that particular play right there, he ended up having a

1107
00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:09,320
Speaker 1: cover six structure UH meaning you too high safety is

1108
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:11,880
Speaker 1: playing cover to the boundary, cover forward to the field,

1109
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:17,200
Speaker 1: and Tyler Uh had the attention of the backside safety

1110
00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:20,239
Speaker 1: which allowed DK Metcalf to get across the other side

1111
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:23,280
Speaker 1: of the field. UM. And so when Russell has that space,

1112
00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:25,919
Speaker 1: not only is he great at finding the open guy

1113
00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:28,080
Speaker 1: down the field, but the other part of it too

1114
00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:30,759
Speaker 1: is when we talk about creating, he is also if

1115
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:33,919
Speaker 1: a guy isn't open, because he has the space around him,

1116
00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:37,160
Speaker 1: he's always able to extend plays and find guys open.

1117
00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:40,800
Speaker 1: And and these receivers, especially Tyler Lockett, there's an amazing

1118
00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:44,080
Speaker 1: job reacting with him, and they're one of the most

1119
00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:48,080
Speaker 1: explosive teams in the play action game and also in

1120
00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:51,279
Speaker 1: the scrambled situations. So for Russell, this is the type

1121
00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:53,400
Speaker 1: of game and situations that he wants to be in.

1122
00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:56,040
Speaker 1: Is is getting that d play action pass game going

1123
00:51:56,080 --> 00:51:58,600
Speaker 1: so that he can have room to create room to

1124
00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:02,000
Speaker 1: see back there in instead of you know, those normal

1125
00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:06,080
Speaker 1: drop back past situations. I'm glad you mentioned that because

1126
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:08,000
Speaker 1: that was my question. You let me write to it perfectly.

1127
00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:10,239
Speaker 1: Which was at Wisconsin, you know, played behind one of

1128
00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:12,719
Speaker 1: the biggest offensive lines, and so there was concerns about

1129
00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:14,640
Speaker 1: his height. But I remember watching him and there was

1130
00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:16,840
Speaker 1: so much play action where I've never seen a quarterback

1131
00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:19,680
Speaker 1: consistently set up as deep in the pocket as as

1132
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:21,600
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson did in college. And now they've carried that

1133
00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:24,200
Speaker 1: over beautifully with the Seahawks. But I always it was

1134
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:26,400
Speaker 1: I mean, it seemed pretty obvious to me. Part of

1135
00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:28,239
Speaker 1: that was to get that type of depth was for

1136
00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:29,759
Speaker 1: some way, that's maybe not the tallest guy in the

1137
00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:31,920
Speaker 1: world to be able to just see and he's got

1138
00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:33,840
Speaker 1: plenty of arm strength where he can set up, you know,

1139
00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:36,480
Speaker 1: fifteen yards behind the snap and still make every kind

1140
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:38,399
Speaker 1: of throw you want to make. But was was that

1141
00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:41,160
Speaker 1: part of the way they put this offense together with

1142
00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:44,799
Speaker 1: that in mind? I think it's part of it. Obviously.

1143
00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:47,960
Speaker 1: That's why Pete Carroll Russell Wilson just the perfect marriage.

1144
00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:51,319
Speaker 1: I mean, Russell uh Russell was so efficient and and

1145
00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:54,040
Speaker 1: Pete will always has wanted to run the ball. At

1146
00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:56,359
Speaker 1: USC that's his big part of his philosophy. And now

1147
00:52:56,400 --> 00:53:00,480
Speaker 1: translating that in Seattle and you had Marshawn Lynch, now

1148
00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:02,839
Speaker 1: you have Chris Carson. That's a big part of what

1149
00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:05,839
Speaker 1: they do here and now the play action game is

1150
00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:08,480
Speaker 1: a massive part of Russell's game as well. So you

1151
00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:11,160
Speaker 1: marriage all of those strengths together and you get an

1152
00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:14,919
Speaker 1: offense that although Russell isn't having as many attempts as

1153
00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:18,560
Speaker 1: other players around the league, Russell is not a volume shooter.

1154
00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:21,000
Speaker 1: He's not as Steph Curry. He's not you know, someone

1155
00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:23,920
Speaker 1: that needs to continue to shoot to get hot. He's

1156
00:53:24,120 --> 00:53:27,520
Speaker 1: ready to go immediately. Um. And that's the that's the

1157
00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:31,799
Speaker 1: impressive part about him as he's able to maximize his opportunities.

1158
00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:34,120
Speaker 1: And really he's the tip of the spear, you know,

1159
00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:37,160
Speaker 1: for this for this offense, and he's the explosive aspect

1160
00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:38,719
Speaker 1: of this team. So when they get into those deep

1161
00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:41,719
Speaker 1: play acts and past situations, as you watch him, you're

1162
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:44,160
Speaker 1: always expecting something great to happen. So yeah, I think

1163
00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:46,959
Speaker 1: it's part of UH for Russell to get to get

1164
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:50,440
Speaker 1: that space for him to see. Um, he's always looking

1165
00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:52,440
Speaker 1: and seeing through lanes. When you talk to Russell and

1166
00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:54,720
Speaker 1: you talked to Drew Brees, they're always talking about seeing

1167
00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:57,839
Speaker 1: through lanes and trying to anticipate when he's in this

1168
00:53:57,880 --> 00:54:01,240
Speaker 1: position right here, you know, ten yards back. He doesn't

1169
00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:03,200
Speaker 1: have to do as much as trying to see through

1170
00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:06,200
Speaker 1: those lanes. You know, you talk about him being the

1171
00:54:06,239 --> 00:54:10,680
Speaker 1: explosive piece, to explosive element to the Seahawks offense. The

1172
00:54:10,719 --> 00:54:13,719
Speaker 1: one thing that shows up consistently on tape. The explosive

1173
00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:16,520
Speaker 1: plays tend to happen when he scrambles and he makes

1174
00:54:16,560 --> 00:54:19,759
Speaker 1: things on his own. Um. Look, some of it is

1175
00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:21,919
Speaker 1: when he he dials it up and throws down the field,

1176
00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:23,399
Speaker 1: but a lot of it when he just takes off.

1177
00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:24,800
Speaker 1: Tell me what you see when you look at the

1178
00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:28,440
Speaker 1: tape and you see him break the pocket? Yeah, I

1179
00:54:28,560 --> 00:54:32,000
Speaker 1: laugh here because Russell again, I come back to this

1180
00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:34,560
Speaker 1: analogy of you know, what type of player are you?

1181
00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:38,080
Speaker 1: Are you, Michael Jordan, Kobe Bryant, um, are you a

1182
00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:39,920
Speaker 1: guy that wants the ball in your hands at the

1183
00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:42,200
Speaker 1: end of the game. And that's Russell Wilson. You know,

1184
00:54:42,239 --> 00:54:45,120
Speaker 1: most of the time when you see Russell uh run,

1185
00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:47,319
Speaker 1: it is towards the end of the game and he

1186
00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:49,400
Speaker 1: wants the ball in his hands. And this is exactly

1187
00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:52,960
Speaker 1: that situation. You know, for Seattle, this is too. This

1188
00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:55,640
Speaker 1: is to seal the game, that sets up a fourth

1189
00:54:55,680 --> 00:54:58,040
Speaker 1: and one for the Seahawks to try and you know,

1190
00:54:58,120 --> 00:55:01,759
Speaker 1: run the clock out and win the game. Russell when

1191
00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:05,480
Speaker 1: he is decisive, when he's decisive about finding lanes and

1192
00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:09,520
Speaker 1: taking off, really it is very difficult for defenses to

1193
00:55:09,520 --> 00:55:12,239
Speaker 1: to contain him. He still has that ability to make

1194
00:55:12,560 --> 00:55:15,600
Speaker 1: people pay. Um, you know, people want to look at

1195
00:55:15,640 --> 00:55:18,399
Speaker 1: maybe now he's hit thirty, does he have that same

1196
00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:21,880
Speaker 1: running ability? He absolutely does. And that's a perfect example

1197
00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:25,400
Speaker 1: of that. And and Russell is great at picking and

1198
00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:27,799
Speaker 1: choosing his moments strut a giving game, not trying to

1199
00:55:27,840 --> 00:55:30,480
Speaker 1: force the issue with his legs. But you're right, Bucky,

1200
00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:33,160
Speaker 1: I think a lot of it. For Seattle, what they

1201
00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:36,520
Speaker 1: rely on is Russell Wilson to make those types of plays.

1202
00:55:36,680 --> 00:55:38,720
Speaker 1: If you look around the league and as much as tape,

1203
00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:41,200
Speaker 1: as much tape as you guys watch, you see that

1204
00:55:41,239 --> 00:55:43,319
Speaker 1: when you watch Kansas City and some of these other

1205
00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:45,880
Speaker 1: teams that they are scheming people open, that there are

1206
00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:48,640
Speaker 1: there are times where guys are just wide open. And

1207
00:55:48,719 --> 00:55:51,200
Speaker 1: for Seattle when you watch them, there's not as much

1208
00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:54,600
Speaker 1: happening in those situations. So then what gives. It's either

1209
00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:56,839
Speaker 1: you've got an offense that's gonna stall out, or you've

1210
00:55:56,840 --> 00:56:00,239
Speaker 1: got an amazing playmaker under center for you that's able

1211
00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:02,799
Speaker 1: to extend. And that's what Russell Wilson is. He's a

1212
00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:07,080
Speaker 1: great eraser of mistakes around him offensive line play over

1213
00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:11,560
Speaker 1: the last few years and sometimes in these situations where plays,

1214
00:56:11,719 --> 00:56:14,600
Speaker 1: how are dead to rights, he has that ability to

1215
00:56:14,680 --> 00:56:17,600
Speaker 1: make you right as a play caller. And I know

1216
00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:19,759
Speaker 1: that's one aspect of his game that when you look

1217
00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:22,759
Speaker 1: at and really study that pops out. And for him

1218
00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:25,319
Speaker 1: playing at this m v P type of level so far,

1219
00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:28,719
Speaker 1: I think is really impressive. For one, uh, the offensive

1220
00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:31,760
Speaker 1: line play that he has to the amount of creating

1221
00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:34,640
Speaker 1: that he's having to do at times, uh and staying

1222
00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:37,560
Speaker 1: so efficient. This is not just a creator. That's that's

1223
00:56:37,600 --> 00:56:40,000
Speaker 1: a wild card out there. He's being I mean he's

1224
00:56:40,040 --> 00:56:44,120
Speaker 1: only thrown one interception this season. Uh he he is uh,

1225
00:56:44,160 --> 00:56:47,080
Speaker 1: you know, leading the league in touchdown passes, uh, you know,

1226
00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:50,560
Speaker 1: on limited amount of attempts, and and has the highest

1227
00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:54,160
Speaker 1: passer rating in the NFL right now. So those are

1228
00:56:54,200 --> 00:56:57,080
Speaker 1: all the things that you talk about. Is it's very

1229
00:56:57,160 --> 00:56:59,799
Speaker 1: hard and especially you see the young players right now

1230
00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:05,760
Speaker 1: that are that create creating type of quarterback, protecting the football,

1231
00:57:06,120 --> 00:57:09,160
Speaker 1: being efficient with it and can constantly putting your team

1232
00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:11,560
Speaker 1: in the best situation possible, and that's what Russ does.

1233
00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:15,280
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what I wrote down a couple different

1234
00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:18,240
Speaker 1: words when you're talking about describing great quarterbacks, distributor creator,

1235
00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:21,120
Speaker 1: a racer. Um, I think all those all those words

1236
00:57:21,120 --> 00:57:25,000
Speaker 1: would accurately describe Russell Wilson and his game. I'm gonna

1237
00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:26,240
Speaker 1: let you go here in a second, but I do

1238
00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:28,000
Speaker 1: want to get your thoughts on one thing because we're

1239
00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:30,920
Speaker 1: talking about this a little bit before we started this interview. Um,

1240
00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:33,000
Speaker 1: you know, Bucky is is taken off in this new

1241
00:57:33,040 --> 00:57:37,080
Speaker 1: coaching career and he's got this program turning around football games.

1242
00:57:37,640 --> 00:57:39,480
Speaker 1: But but but, Jake, I want you to know, now,

1243
00:57:39,600 --> 00:57:41,760
Speaker 1: this is the school that Bucky's coaching at, which is

1244
00:57:42,320 --> 00:57:45,640
Speaker 1: where where one John Elway went to school and as

1245
00:57:45,680 --> 00:57:49,520
Speaker 1: a quarterback, as someone who was as as highly decorated

1246
00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:51,320
Speaker 1: as as any quarterback in the country when you were

1247
00:57:51,360 --> 00:57:52,720
Speaker 1: coming out of high school and had your pick of

1248
00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:55,480
Speaker 1: the litter of schools, um on a scale of one

1249
00:57:55,480 --> 00:57:59,040
Speaker 1: to ten. Knowing how little Bucky throws the ball, and

1250
00:57:59,120 --> 00:58:04,040
Speaker 1: I'm talking like you counter on one hand, how disgusted

1251
00:58:04,120 --> 00:58:06,680
Speaker 1: does that make you feel? Jake? To know what he's doing.

1252
00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:10,960
Speaker 1: So one one, I'm shocked because if I know Bucky,

1253
00:58:11,120 --> 00:58:13,440
Speaker 1: if I know Bucky from our from our days on

1254
00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:16,880
Speaker 1: the Elite eleven opening Tour, you know this is a

1255
00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:19,680
Speaker 1: this is a receiver at heart right, he wants he

1256
00:58:19,720 --> 00:58:24,000
Speaker 1: wants one. I am, I am. I have to. I

1257
00:58:24,040 --> 00:58:27,240
Speaker 1: have to give hats off to Bucky's to be disciplined,

1258
00:58:27,560 --> 00:58:31,360
Speaker 1: discipline and knowing his team shrinks right and executing it. Now,

1259
00:58:31,880 --> 00:58:35,320
Speaker 1: would I want to go there in this case? Uh no,

1260
00:58:35,560 --> 00:58:39,680
Speaker 1: No I would not. But you know you keep coaching

1261
00:58:39,840 --> 00:58:42,160
Speaker 1: you if your team, man, I'm proud of you. You're

1262
00:58:42,240 --> 00:58:45,080
Speaker 1: killing it. I don't know how many top level quarterbacks

1263
00:58:45,120 --> 00:58:48,120
Speaker 1: you're gonna be recruiting these days. Look in e in

1264
00:58:48,240 --> 00:58:51,320
Speaker 1: eight games, we have twenty eight pass attempts. But what

1265
00:58:51,360 --> 00:58:56,720
Speaker 1: do you do? What I was like, but but what

1266
00:58:57,480 --> 00:58:59,560
Speaker 1: is that's the same thing I would like to have

1267
00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:01,880
Speaker 1: good as a young Jay keeps playing it like a

1268
00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:05,840
Speaker 1: Seahettle Seahawks like office that when you throw it, they're

1269
00:59:05,840 --> 00:59:09,480
Speaker 1: gonna be touchdowns. Their touchdowns waiting to be thrown. We

1270
00:59:09,600 --> 00:59:11,800
Speaker 1: just haven't got to that part of the playbook. But

1271
00:59:11,840 --> 00:59:15,400
Speaker 1: it's right there for you. So young Jake keeps. Bring

1272
00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:17,919
Speaker 1: you in. We're setting you up to just throw these

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00:59:17,960 --> 00:59:21,240
Speaker 1: touchdowns because they're all right there. Twenty eight pass attempts

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Speaker 1: in eight games due to math. Man. Look at this

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Speaker 1: recruiting job right here. This is fantastic by Bucky Broth.

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Speaker 1: You've got me sold man. You know, one of these

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Speaker 1: young quarterbacks that's out here in California is difference maker

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Speaker 1: to exploding that offense up. It needs it. Man. If

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00:59:42,040 --> 00:59:44,600
Speaker 1: you go to practice after practice, you'll see every player

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Speaker 1: on the team Ice had her way. Not nobody Ice

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00:59:46,520 --> 00:59:48,600
Speaker 1: on her arm. But I can promise you that nobody

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00:59:48,680 --> 00:59:51,600
Speaker 1: the quarter that quarterback is is dying to get some reps.

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00:59:51,600 --> 00:59:58,040
Speaker 1: He's probably staying after trying to throw some balls. Come on, man,

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Speaker 1: I thought you'd have something to say about that. Hey, Jake,

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Speaker 1: this has been awesome and uh, we're we're big fans. Years.

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Speaker 1: It's been great to get to know you a little

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Speaker 1: bit over the years. You do a fantastic job and

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Speaker 1: look forward to catching up with you soon down the road. Here. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: thanks guys, let's do it again soon. How to blast?

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Speaker 1: And Uh, it's gonna be a fun second half of

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Speaker 1: the season, that's for sure. Well, Buck is great to

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Speaker 1: catch up with with Jake Keeps. We ended up going

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Speaker 1: a little bit long there, but I don't want to

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Speaker 1: slow it down because it was such a fascinating conversation

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Speaker 1: learning more and more about Russell Wilson. But we are

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Speaker 1: going to delay hits and missus. I know I tease

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Speaker 1: that at the top. We'll do that next week so

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Speaker 1: I'll have something for you to look forward to there.

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Speaker 1: But I do want to before we get out of here,

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Speaker 1: answer some of these fan questions that that popped up

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Speaker 1: on Apple podcast. So nabile hit us what you got here?

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Speaker 1: How do scout adjust evaluations and their processes for lower

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Speaker 1: division athletes as compared to FBS, and if any teams

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Speaker 1: traditionally have better success with scouting these levels. M Well,

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Speaker 1: I think it's a lot easier now, Buck, wouldn't you agree?

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01:00:52,720 --> 01:00:56,440
Speaker 1: Like when we first started, the tape quality wasn't as good. Um,

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01:00:56,480 --> 01:00:59,320
Speaker 1: you didn't have opportunities to see as many of these kids,

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01:00:59,400 --> 01:01:02,160
Speaker 1: and and uh, you know, the budgets are all different now,

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01:01:02,200 --> 01:01:04,360
Speaker 1: and so to me, it's a lot easier to scout

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Speaker 1: these players. My advice to the young scouts has always been,

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Speaker 1: look if you if you're if you're watching somebody on

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Speaker 1: Division two tape. Don't even look up their number, just

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01:01:12,080 --> 01:01:14,760
Speaker 1: watch the first you know, fifteen twenty plays. If you know,

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01:01:14,760 --> 01:01:16,680
Speaker 1: hopefully that guy jumps off the screen and you go, okay,

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01:01:16,680 --> 01:01:19,120
Speaker 1: he needs to be dominating at this level. Who is

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Speaker 1: the who was the NFL prospect on the field. You

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Speaker 1: should be able to find him. That's one way to

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Speaker 1: kind of look at it. But you always then it's

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Speaker 1: a key when these guys get the All Star Games

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Speaker 1: and whatever, they step up in competition. Sometimes these Division

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Speaker 1: two teams, Uh, they might play a really good Division

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Speaker 1: one Double A team, or you see you know, an

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Speaker 1: FCS team play and you know, one of one FBS game.

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Speaker 1: So those are the games you always want to watch,

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Speaker 1: the best competition they play. It's funny if you say that, DJ,

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Speaker 1: because I think this is is really one of the

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Speaker 1: biggest challenges that you have as a scout when you're

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Speaker 1: looking at a lower level player. Um, the dominance has

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01:01:49,520 --> 01:01:52,440
Speaker 1: to pop off tape. Um, if you can dominate at

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Speaker 1: a lower division, you're gonna have a tough time making

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Speaker 1: it and having success in the league. Secondly, the regular

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Speaker 1: season matchups that they play against, uh, higher level teams. Uh,

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Speaker 1: you you add even more weight to those games. Uh,

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Speaker 1: we can talk about it. And this is not even

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Speaker 1: Khalil mcplay the Buffalo, which is a D one school,

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01:02:08,800 --> 01:02:11,800
Speaker 1: But the Khalil Matt game versus Ohio State was a

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Speaker 1: huge game for him. How did he perform against the

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Speaker 1: best of the best. He dominated that game. That led

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Speaker 1: scouts to believe that he would be able to dominate

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Speaker 1: at that level. UM. I'll go back from a personal

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01:02:21,720 --> 01:02:26,120
Speaker 1: experience when Vincent Jackson was coming out of Northern Colorado. UM,

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Speaker 1: I went in, I watched him, and he was a

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Speaker 1: dominant player who was also a really good basketball player

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Speaker 1: in high school. And I was so kind of torn

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01:02:34,120 --> 01:02:36,439
Speaker 1: on how big to make the grade that I wasn't

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01:02:36,440 --> 01:02:38,240
Speaker 1: even working for the Green Bay package. But I called

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01:02:38,360 --> 01:02:40,760
Speaker 1: Ron Wolf and I asked Ron. I said, Ron, when

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Speaker 1: Terrell Owens was coming out of school and you saw

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Speaker 1: him at you teach out Auga, how did you know

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Speaker 1: to give him a big grade? He said, it is

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Speaker 1: clear and apparent that he is a man amongst boys

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Speaker 1: at his level, and he has the size and you

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Speaker 1: can envision him having that kind of success at the

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01:02:55,360 --> 01:02:58,080
Speaker 1: next level. Put a big grade on him. Then follow

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Speaker 1: it up at the All Star Game, because typically those

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01:03:00,320 --> 01:03:02,680
Speaker 1: guys find their way to All Star games. If they

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01:03:02,720 --> 01:03:05,800
Speaker 1: have similar success at the All Star Game and they

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01:03:05,840 --> 01:03:08,120
Speaker 1: don't look like a fish out of water, that's when

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01:03:08,160 --> 01:03:10,200
Speaker 1: you can really go big on your grade because you

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01:03:10,240 --> 01:03:12,800
Speaker 1: know that you've seen them at every level and they

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01:03:12,840 --> 01:03:16,760
Speaker 1: didn't look like the game was too big for them.

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Speaker 1: I think that's great. I think it's a great advice.

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Speaker 1: And look it it don't make it more complicated than

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Speaker 1: it is. I mean, you cannot be You don't draft

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01:03:23,760 --> 01:03:27,240
Speaker 1: good players from lower levels. You draft great, elite special

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01:03:27,280 --> 01:03:29,800
Speaker 1: players from lower levels. So that to me is kind

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Speaker 1: of the way I look at that. All right now, Bible,

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01:03:31,480 --> 01:03:35,160
Speaker 1: We've got another one. Oh yeah, next one. Bill Walsh

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Speaker 1: said that he believed there were only a handful of

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Speaker 1: teams with championship culture. How many in which teams do

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Speaker 1: you believe have a championship culture in the NFL today?

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Speaker 1: Oh want me to want me throw out some names here? Buck? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: because I think that's a good question. There aren't thirty two,

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Speaker 1: and I mean I think there's you can say there's

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Speaker 1: more than eight. But if I'm just off the kind

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Speaker 1: of the top of my head just looking at some names,

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01:03:57,600 --> 01:03:59,880
Speaker 1: of different teams here. If I want to say championship culture,

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01:03:59,880 --> 01:04:01,720
Speaker 1: and that means just kind of a little bit of

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01:04:01,720 --> 01:04:03,760
Speaker 1: a track record there at the front office, the coaching

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01:04:03,760 --> 01:04:06,320
Speaker 1: staff being on the same page and being a good environment.

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01:04:06,880 --> 01:04:10,640
Speaker 1: I look at traditional teams. I mean, you've got New England, Baltimore, Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 1: I think Indianapolis is building something special there with Chris

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Speaker 1: Ballard and Frank Right. I think that's a great culture. Philadelphia,

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01:04:16,680 --> 01:04:18,440
Speaker 1: they've had a Super Bowl. I think that what they

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01:04:18,480 --> 01:04:20,919
Speaker 1: do is a really nice job there. Howie Roseman Doug

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01:04:20,960 --> 01:04:24,120
Speaker 1: Peterson worked so well together. Green Bay historically for a

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Speaker 1: long time, has had a great culture there. Um. I

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01:04:26,760 --> 01:04:28,760
Speaker 1: think that you've seen La Fleur has kind of stepped

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01:04:28,760 --> 01:04:30,960
Speaker 1: in and they've been able to get right back up

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01:04:31,000 --> 01:04:33,160
Speaker 1: on top. And then I would say a couple more

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01:04:33,200 --> 01:04:36,760
Speaker 1: teams in New Orleans, the Rams and the Seahawks. I

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Speaker 1: think that's I mean, how many is that one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight.

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Speaker 1: That's nine teams right there. I think there's probably three

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01:04:43,960 --> 01:04:45,640
Speaker 1: or four more you can probably put in there, but

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01:04:45,720 --> 01:04:47,440
Speaker 1: those those nine I kind of put up there at

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Speaker 1: the top. Yeah, I think what you're looking at when

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01:04:49,800 --> 01:04:52,840
Speaker 1: we talk about a championship culture is we're looking for

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01:04:52,880 --> 01:04:55,400
Speaker 1: a level of consistency, and that consistency doesn't mean that

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01:04:55,480 --> 01:04:58,400
Speaker 1: this team is they're always in the playoffs, but they're

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Speaker 1: always kind of around there, always in the mix. Because

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01:05:01,440 --> 01:05:03,720
Speaker 1: being a consistently good team in the National Football League

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01:05:03,760 --> 01:05:05,840
Speaker 1: is horse. So I always kind of lean on the

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01:05:05,880 --> 01:05:08,400
Speaker 1: teams that are always right there. Doesn't mean they're always

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01:05:08,400 --> 01:05:10,440
Speaker 1: gonna be in the top six in their conference, but

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01:05:10,480 --> 01:05:13,560
Speaker 1: they're around uh. Teams that I wanted to bring up

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01:05:13,560 --> 01:05:15,959
Speaker 1: that I think the case should go in there too. Yeah,

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01:05:15,960 --> 01:05:18,960
Speaker 1: so I had Case down. I had a Minnesota Vikings

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01:05:18,960 --> 01:05:20,920
Speaker 1: down because of the way their style of player or whatever.

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01:05:20,960 --> 01:05:23,880
Speaker 1: I wrote, the Carolina Panthers down because the consistency of

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Speaker 1: what they have in the front office. The team that

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Speaker 1: I believe is obviously on the upswing that would be

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Speaker 1: the San Francisco forty Niners. And the reason why I'm

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01:05:30,920 --> 01:05:34,240
Speaker 1: gonna say the San Francisco forty Niners are now building

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Speaker 1: and adopting a championship culture. It not only stands from

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01:05:37,360 --> 01:05:39,520
Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan and John Lynch. You both have kind of

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01:05:39,520 --> 01:05:41,560
Speaker 1: been the round teams that have gone to the Super Bowl,

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01:05:41,760 --> 01:05:44,360
Speaker 1: and John Lynch has won a Super Bowl. But when

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01:05:44,440 --> 01:05:47,360
Speaker 1: I look at the way they're developing their players, their

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01:05:47,360 --> 01:05:50,400
Speaker 1: style of play, run game, championship level defense. They have

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Speaker 1: a franchise quarterback, and they've sprinkled in enough veterans that

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01:05:55,120 --> 01:05:58,720
Speaker 1: have been able to get to the winner circle. That

1422
01:05:58,760 --> 01:06:02,080
Speaker 1: matters because when you get down the stretch, football changes

1423
01:06:02,360 --> 01:06:04,360
Speaker 1: and you have to have enough guys that have that

1424
01:06:04,560 --> 01:06:08,080
Speaker 1: experience where when the game gets big, they don't shrink

1425
01:06:08,120 --> 01:06:11,000
Speaker 1: in the lights. And that not only includes players, but

1426
01:06:11,160 --> 01:06:14,560
Speaker 1: coaches and management, because you can't have a situation where

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01:06:14,760 --> 01:06:17,600
Speaker 1: we're close to the big dance and everybody takes on

1428
01:06:17,640 --> 01:06:20,720
Speaker 1: this level of panic or desperation. That's not how you

1429
01:06:20,720 --> 01:06:24,400
Speaker 1: win the biggest games. Let me give you one nugget

1430
01:06:24,400 --> 01:06:26,720
Speaker 1: here on the forty Niners, and we've been on this

1431
01:06:26,760 --> 01:06:29,160
Speaker 1: podcast pumping this team for a long time. This goes

1432
01:06:29,160 --> 01:06:32,040
Speaker 1: back to the summer where we were all over these guys. Um,

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01:06:32,040 --> 01:06:33,760
Speaker 1: this is what I was told about the forty Niners

1434
01:06:33,800 --> 01:06:36,600
Speaker 1: and their building. Buck, it is a dream, It is

1435
01:06:36,800 --> 01:06:39,960
Speaker 1: all ball. And they said that is from Kyle Shanahan,

1436
01:06:40,000 --> 01:06:42,520
Speaker 1: that is John Lynch, that is everybody on that coaching staff.

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01:06:42,720 --> 01:06:46,560
Speaker 1: He said, there is no nonsense there's no there's no politics,

1438
01:06:46,600 --> 01:06:48,720
Speaker 1: there's no in fighting. He said. Literally, it is like

1439
01:06:48,720 --> 01:06:52,240
Speaker 1: a football think tank and there with their minds coming together,

1440
01:06:52,280 --> 01:06:56,280
Speaker 1: putting together their game plans every week. All these contributors um.

1441
01:06:56,320 --> 01:06:58,280
Speaker 1: It was fascinating to just hear the way they talked

1442
01:06:58,280 --> 01:07:00,520
Speaker 1: about it, because they said, it's a coach's dream because

1443
01:07:00,520 --> 01:07:02,080
Speaker 1: you come in here, you don't have to worry with

1444
01:07:02,120 --> 01:07:04,240
Speaker 1: any other nonsense. Some of these other teams are fighting,

1445
01:07:04,240 --> 01:07:07,400
Speaker 1: the in fighting, none of that. It is just all ball.

1446
01:07:07,480 --> 01:07:10,200
Speaker 1: And I thought that that was pretty interesting. Look, man,

1447
01:07:10,240 --> 01:07:13,080
Speaker 1: that's absolutely what you want when we talk about like

1448
01:07:13,160 --> 01:07:15,160
Speaker 1: the in fighting. Like some people who have never had

1449
01:07:15,200 --> 01:07:17,120
Speaker 1: opportunity to work in front office, they don't know about

1450
01:07:17,120 --> 01:07:19,920
Speaker 1: the office politics that exists in any job where you

1451
01:07:19,960 --> 01:07:22,760
Speaker 1: have people campaigning and climbing and trying to get the

1452
01:07:22,760 --> 01:07:26,720
Speaker 1: next man's job, as opposed to everybody just really focusing

1453
01:07:26,760 --> 01:07:30,439
Speaker 1: in on maximizing what they're doing in their current job

1454
01:07:30,680 --> 01:07:33,080
Speaker 1: and really keeping the main thing the main thing, and

1455
01:07:33,080 --> 01:07:35,280
Speaker 1: in the National Football League, the main thing is to

1456
01:07:35,280 --> 01:07:37,080
Speaker 1: build a consistent winner and to be able to bye

1457
01:07:37,120 --> 01:07:39,880
Speaker 1: for championships each and every year. When you talk about

1458
01:07:39,880 --> 01:07:42,680
Speaker 1: the San Francisco forty nine is being all in, just

1459
01:07:42,920 --> 01:07:46,040
Speaker 1: all ball. It means that every decision that is made

1460
01:07:46,520 --> 01:07:50,240
Speaker 1: is made with being the ultimate winner in mind, and

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01:07:50,280 --> 01:07:53,520
Speaker 1: there's no hitting agendas. Everybody is trying to pull the

1462
01:07:53,560 --> 01:07:55,760
Speaker 1: boat in the right direction. And when you get that

1463
01:07:55,840 --> 01:07:58,600
Speaker 1: and you get complete buy in from management to coach

1464
01:07:58,680 --> 01:08:03,040
Speaker 1: two players, that's when the special things happen. Yep, and

1465
01:08:03,200 --> 01:08:05,920
Speaker 1: special things are definitely happening there right now. Uh teams

1466
01:08:05,960 --> 01:08:08,200
Speaker 1: undefeated and rolling. All right, that's gonna do it for

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Speaker 1: us for the show today, I want to thank you

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01:08:09,600 --> 01:08:12,120
Speaker 1: guys for listening to this show. Do us a favor

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01:08:12,120 --> 01:08:13,840
Speaker 1: if you can. We'd would like to continue to get

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01:08:13,840 --> 01:08:16,080
Speaker 1: the word out on the Movie Sticks podcast. Get on

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01:08:16,160 --> 01:08:18,679
Speaker 1: social media, UM, give us a little plug there, encourage

1472
01:08:18,680 --> 01:08:21,280
Speaker 1: your friends to check us out. Uh this we're having

1473
01:08:21,320 --> 01:08:23,160
Speaker 1: so much fun. We're learning each and every episode. Talking

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01:08:23,200 --> 01:08:24,800
Speaker 1: to great guest. I hope you're enjoying it as much

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01:08:24,800 --> 01:08:26,720
Speaker 1: as we are. But just continue to try and get

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01:08:26,720 --> 01:08:28,280
Speaker 1: that word out. So if you could leave us one

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01:08:28,280 --> 01:08:31,320
Speaker 1: of those reviews on Apple Podcasts, we appreciate that as well.

1478
01:08:31,360 --> 01:08:33,599
Speaker 1: Any other thoughts. Buck No, man, this is great man.

1479
01:08:33,680 --> 01:08:35,840
Speaker 1: I I can't thank Jay Keeps enough for coming on

1480
01:08:35,880 --> 01:08:37,960
Speaker 1: and kind of giving us a little, a little glimpse

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Speaker 1: pulling the curtain back on Russell Wilson. That was fantastic.

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Speaker 1: I think everyone would benefit from listening to that interview.

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Speaker 1: Did he yet? Yeah, And we did a fun XS

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Speaker 1: and os a discussion with him. So if you want

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Speaker 1: to see a video of that, that should be up

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Speaker 1: on NFL dot com slash mts video you can see

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Speaker 1: Jake Keeps kind of breaking down what makes Russell Wilson

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Speaker 1: so special. All right, that's gonna do it for us today.

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Speaker 1: Big thanks Nabil behind the glass, Kent back working with

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Speaker 1: us once again. It's been outstanding. Mark Brady kind of

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Speaker 1: the captain of the ship, David Singer, getting us, our guests,

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Speaker 1: whole host of people making this move the six Show happen.

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