1 00:00:02,480 --> 00:00:05,360 Speaker 1: What's Up is way Up with Angela Yee and it 2 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:08,360 Speaker 1: is Women's History Months. Of course we're talking about women 3 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:11,240 Speaker 1: who are making history. I got my co host for 4 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:12,879 Speaker 1: both Wednesdays, Stacy Tisdale here. 5 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:17,640 Speaker 2: Happy Wealth Wednesdays, Happy Women's History Month. And it's Daytime. 6 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:23,159 Speaker 2: We are so excited to have daytime with us. She 7 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:26,480 Speaker 2: is known as the voice of Generation Z. She is 8 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 2: now in her sixth season of her snapchat series It's Daytime, 9 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 2: and she is the CEO of DT Entertainment. She has 10 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:38,560 Speaker 2: a quarterly magazine, It's Daytime. She is a social media 11 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:41,919 Speaker 2: darling with one and a half million followers. And this 12 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 2: girl is just a sophomore in college. 13 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:46,640 Speaker 1: We're not doing enough, That's what that means. 14 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:48,919 Speaker 3: Thank you for such an amazing introduction. 15 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 1: And you I said that you also got out of 16 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 1: high school early. 17 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:53,320 Speaker 4: Yeah. 18 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 3: I graduated high school at fifteen. 19 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 2: You graduated high school at fifteen. 20 00:00:57,080 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 4: Yes, I turned nineteen in a month now, so I've 21 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 4: been in college for. 22 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:04,479 Speaker 3: The past couple of years. 23 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:06,840 Speaker 1: He was like the youngest freshman coming in. 24 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:08,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, I was. 25 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 4: I did end up taking a gap year straight out 26 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 4: of high school because it was a little scary. Yeah, 27 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:18,479 Speaker 4: it's gonna be scary that too. But I was taking 28 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:20,680 Speaker 4: college courses while I was in high school. That's how 29 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 4: I graduated early. So I've been taking college courses since 30 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:25,120 Speaker 4: I was a freshman in high school too. 31 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:27,959 Speaker 1: So okay, yeah, what did you think you wanted to 32 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:29,840 Speaker 1: do with your life when you were younger? Like when 33 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 1: I grew up, I'm going to. 34 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 4: Be When I was younger, I wanted to be a surgeon. Okay, 35 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:36,200 Speaker 4: to be a surgeon. I wanted to be a heart 36 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 4: and kidney transplant surgeon when I was younger. 37 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 3: And then I don't know, I hit like double digits 38 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:41,959 Speaker 3: and I was. 39 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:44,120 Speaker 1: Like no, And they make you dissect a frog in 40 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:45,400 Speaker 1: school and you're like, I don't know. 41 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 4: I actually dissected a cow heart my first year of college, 42 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 4: and it. 43 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 3: Was so fun. I loved it. 44 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 1: You enjoyed that it was you smelled it from aldehyde 45 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 1: and all of that. We dissected a pig. I remember 46 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 1: that was awful. 47 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, everybody was worried about dissecting the pig. But your 48 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 2: entrepreneurial journey started when you were six with your hit 49 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 2: song It's Not Too Too Yes, and then it went 50 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 2: on from there to you did a children's book right 51 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 2: after that, right, I did, And then in twenty seventeen 52 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 2: year magazine what was going on? 53 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 4: You know? I feel like when I was younger, I 54 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 4: was just like, I want to try everything until I. 55 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:28,920 Speaker 3: Find what I really really like. 56 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 4: I had so many different interests and I was inspired 57 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 4: by so many different things, so I kind of was 58 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:36,520 Speaker 4: just like, let me just try them all. And I'm 59 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 4: very fortunate to say that I was able to try 60 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:41,799 Speaker 4: them all until I found, you know, my favorite thing 61 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 4: to do out of them all, which is like social 62 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:46,360 Speaker 4: media and like hosting and like this whole thing of 63 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 4: like being a media and social personality. And that's kind 64 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:52,800 Speaker 4: of where I've ended up now. And I don't know, 65 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 4: I've I've been enjoying it so far. I don't think 66 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 4: that I'm going to have, you know, an epiphany and 67 00:02:57,400 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 4: go to something else soon. 68 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 1: I will say that it is that is so in 69 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 1: demand right now because I just remember the shift of 70 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:09,240 Speaker 1: when these corporations were realizing, Okay, we went to work 71 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 1: with these social media influencers. It feels more organic for them, 72 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 1: and it's so immediate too. 73 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 3: Yeah. 74 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:19,239 Speaker 4: I think the way that social media has changed over 75 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 4: the course of a few years has been so interesting 76 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 4: to see, and I think that it's just so amazing 77 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 4: to see what it's like to I don't know, have 78 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 4: a platform that's just so powerful. 79 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 1: Honestly, this is a wealth Wednesday, So we are going 80 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 1: to talk about monetization. Yeah, when did you realize this 81 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 1: was something you can make money off of? Do you 82 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 1: remember the first time you had an offer coming or 83 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 1: you were like, oh, wow, okay, this is an actual business. 84 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 4: I don't remember my very first offer, but I do 85 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 4: remember my first set of brand deals came via email, 86 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 4: and it was during the time I was going viral 87 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 4: on Instagram for like doing skate videos. So my mom 88 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 4: and I were like stuck up in the house during 89 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 4: quarantine and we would just film a bunch of roller 90 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 4: skating videos and they went crazy viral. And that is 91 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 4: around the time when I got my first brand deal, 92 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 4: and you know, my first year of doing social media, 93 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 4: like on that viral level, I got so many amazing opportunities, 94 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 4: Like I got invited to the Grammys, I got invited 95 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 4: to New York. I got to work with H and M, 96 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 4: I got to work with Netflix. I got to work 97 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 4: with a lot of amazing brands, and my first time 98 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 4: doing it was during the pandemic, which was surprising. 99 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 3: But yeah, can. 100 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 2: You back up a little bit, how did you build 101 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 2: that following? 102 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 4: Just consistency and posting all the time. Sometimes it's so 103 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 4: annoying to post, but I post all the time. I 104 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:53,359 Speaker 4: try to keep it real on my socials, which has 105 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 4: kind of helped me to post a little bit more. 106 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 4: But there's always just like, I don't know, wanting to 107 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 4: get better at my content. So I try to slow 108 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:02,920 Speaker 4: it down sometimes so that I can produce, you know, 109 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 4: content with more quality instead of more quantity. But I 110 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:08,600 Speaker 4: don't know, I'm always just posting. I feel like that's 111 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 4: the key to like mastering social medium. 112 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 1: And you also work with Snapchat. I did, right, So 113 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 1: talk to me about how that happened, because I know 114 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:18,600 Speaker 1: it was a program that you actually saw, So tell 115 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:19,600 Speaker 1: us a little about that. 116 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, so Snapchat has been a brand. I'm like a 117 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 4: platform that I've been using since I was probably since 118 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 4: before I was supposed to use the app. I think 119 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:31,479 Speaker 4: the app has an age restriction of like thirteen, and 120 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:34,040 Speaker 4: I was on Snapchat way before I was thirteen, which 121 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 4: is crazy, but I was just using it to like 122 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 4: use the filters. So I've been working with Snapchat for 123 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 4: a very long time, and I had heard about their 124 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 4: five two three program, which was something new that they 125 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 4: were rolling out for young black creatives and just trying 126 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 4: to help them, you know, promote their businesses more and expand. 127 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 4: And so I had applied on literally the last day 128 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:01,839 Speaker 4: that they were some like taking applications, and you know, 129 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 4: a couple weeks later, I got the acceptance email. And 130 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 4: it was such a surreal moment getting to work so 131 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 4: closely with Snapchat. And I really applaud Snapchat for kind 132 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:18,279 Speaker 4: of giving a different set of resources to creatives to 133 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 4: help them expand to i don't know, kind of like 134 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:25,840 Speaker 4: build more than just social media. So I really applaud 135 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 4: Snapchat for that. And they helped me achieve one of 136 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 4: my biggest goals, which was to you know, create my 137 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 4: own show. And so now I house a show on 138 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:38,839 Speaker 4: Snapchat's platform which weekly episodes, and now we're on season six. 139 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:41,839 Speaker 4: So that's been an amazing experience too. 140 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 2: Let's talk about the content a little bit. You grew 141 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:49,719 Speaker 2: your brand organically and you have become kind of this 142 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 2: voice for gen z in terms of mental health, in 143 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 2: terms of culture, in terms of everything. How did you 144 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:57,720 Speaker 2: find I'm reading this book ten xt now, so I 145 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:01,160 Speaker 2: keeps unique talent. How did did you find that? Did 146 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 2: you when you started young, did you like I want 147 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 2: to be a voice for this generation. 148 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 4: You know, I've always had a calling to kind of 149 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 4: promote my peers, and that's kind of where I got 150 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 4: the idea of my magazine. I wanted a place where 151 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:21,680 Speaker 4: I could kind of just give flowers to my friends 152 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 4: and other young creatives in the industry who were doing 153 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 4: a really good job even while being you know young 154 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 4: and like in middle school and like not even at 155 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 4: the legal age yet. And so I kind of carried 156 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 4: that on with me after my magazine and just tried 157 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:41,120 Speaker 4: to continue like highlighting, you know, members of my generation 158 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 4: who are doing really good so that we can inspire 159 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 4: everyone else to go out and kind of you know, 160 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 4: strive for greatness and also strive for change too. 161 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:52,119 Speaker 1: So, like Stacy said, you've been really vocal about mental health, 162 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 1: and there have been a lot of studies about social 163 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 1: media and how that can affect people's mental health, especially 164 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 1: the younger generation. Some challenges that you feel like there 165 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 1: are there that you're like, Okay, I want to make 166 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 1: sure that we really work on this. 167 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think social media is great for our generation, 168 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 4: but I also think that there are a lot of 169 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 4: problems that come with social media, specifically for generation. There's 170 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 4: this constant need of like comparison and like comparing your 171 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 4: life to you know the life of an influencer. And 172 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 4: there's also like creator burnout from like the creative perspective. 173 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 4: There's cyberbullying, there's body shaming. There's so many different aspects 174 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 4: of social media that can be detrimental to the like 175 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 4: the average gen Zer's mind. And it's like, I feel 176 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 4: like being on social media so actively has made me, 177 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:46,960 Speaker 4: hone more into my mental health because it's like I'm 178 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 4: kind of putting myself on the front line to be exposed. 179 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:53,359 Speaker 4: And it's like if your mental health is not you know, prioritized, 180 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 4: then it's kind of hard to be able to continue 181 00:08:56,520 --> 00:09:00,960 Speaker 4: to post online. And through my own experience with my 182 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 4: own struggles being a social media user, I've kind of 183 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:08,680 Speaker 4: like shaped my content to be more authentic so that 184 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 4: I can kind of reach a sense of relatability for 185 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:16,679 Speaker 4: you know, my followers who are tuning in and are 186 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:19,680 Speaker 4: going through the same like the average gen Zer problems. 187 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 4: A big thing like that was like when I was 188 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 4: going through acne. I had terrible acne, so bad towards 189 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:30,960 Speaker 4: the end of my high school year, and it was 190 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 4: very it was a very dark time for me because 191 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 4: I was going on social media and I'm looking at 192 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:39,680 Speaker 4: everybody else and nobody has acne, and it's like, Okay, 193 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 4: so I'm the only person my age right now who 194 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:42,679 Speaker 4: has acne. 195 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 3: I don't think that's quite accurate. 196 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 1: Snapchat, yeah exactly. 197 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:50,480 Speaker 4: And it's like when you're looking at this and you're like, 198 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 4: you don't see anybody who's going through the same struggles 199 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 4: as you. 200 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 3: It's like it makes you feel alone. 201 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:59,679 Speaker 4: And it's like something as common as acne, like everybody's 202 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 4: at LEAs gone through acting at least once in their life. 203 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:03,679 Speaker 4: And I feel like that was kind of my turning 204 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 4: point to be authentic on social media and kind of 205 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 4: create a place of like relatability for the rest of 206 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 4: the gen Zers who are going through, you know, problems 207 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:13,720 Speaker 4: that we're all going through. 208 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 1: What would you tell other people who are wanting to 209 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:20,239 Speaker 1: be in a position like yours to become an influencer 210 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 1: but also having to deal with the comments aren't always nice. 211 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 1: It could be you know, a thousand, It could be 212 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 1: a thousand great ones, and then you see one negative 213 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:30,720 Speaker 1: one and that always does happen. 214 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 4: And I think the funny thing about social media is 215 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 4: that sometimes videos and like posts go viral and negative ways, 216 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 4: like people go viral because of like there's hate like 217 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:46,200 Speaker 4: like fueling the comments. I say, for one, it's all 218 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 4: about being confident in yourself and remembering your own personal mission. 219 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:52,840 Speaker 4: Like I feel like as long as you know that 220 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 4: you're okay, like physically and mentally, then it's okay, Like 221 00:10:56,640 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 4: and I feel like you will be able to conquer 222 00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:04,440 Speaker 4: social media and all of its challenges, honestly. But yeah, 223 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 4: I feel like it's just learning to like block out 224 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 4: the negativity and being comfortable within yourself. And it's like, 225 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 4: once you're comfortable within yourself and what you're posting and 226 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 4: your goal and you know why you're posting, it's like 227 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 4: there's not really anything that can kind of stop you. 228 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 2: So we were talking, it's a really pivotal moment in 229 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:23,840 Speaker 2: social media right now with the new administration. We don't 230 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 2: know what kind of restrictions. We just don't know what's 231 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:31,199 Speaker 2: gonna happen. And also I'm noticing people are looking at 232 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 2: social media more critically, like people aren't believing everything that 233 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 2: they see. Do you think that's maybe positive in some ways, 234 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 2: particularly for young people. 235 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 4: I mean, I feel like sometimes on social media you 236 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 4: do have to take things with a grain of salt 237 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 4: because again, everyone's just posting from their perspective, So I mean, 238 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 4: that's one way to look at it, but another is 239 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 4: just like I don't know, it's always just taking things 240 00:11:57,800 --> 00:12:00,680 Speaker 4: and applying them to ways that are that makes sense 241 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:03,320 Speaker 4: for you when it comes to social media. So I 242 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 4: don't know, I feel like that's kind of how I 243 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 4: view social media and how a lot of other people 244 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 4: view social media too. 245 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 2: Let's talk business. You are a CEO of DT Entertainment. 246 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 2: What are some of the things you do to keep 247 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:19,960 Speaker 2: all of this going? Be a student and run a 248 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:22,720 Speaker 2: successful business. 249 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 3: I like to have fun. 250 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:30,320 Speaker 2: I know that is the angelaee recipe for success, Like 251 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:32,080 Speaker 2: I'm working, but I'm having fun while. 252 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, I know, they say like work hard, play hard, 253 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:37,560 Speaker 4: but no, I like to work hard and I like 254 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 4: to play harder, which I don't know. I have a 255 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 4: short attention span, so I have to do something to 256 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 4: keep me, you know, ready to conquer another thing. 257 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 1: Your intentional about is helping other people too, who are 258 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 1: also wanting to be on social media, figuring out how 259 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 1: to monetize it, how to connect with their audience. How 260 00:12:57,080 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 1: can people actually get I'm maybe not in contact with you, 261 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:04,080 Speaker 1: but how can well maybe yeah, how can they? Because 262 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 1: I do have your magazine, you have your entertainment company. Yeah. 263 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 4: I feel like I'm pretty active on my socials and 264 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:13,560 Speaker 4: I do try to make a frequent habit to kind. 265 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:14,960 Speaker 1: Of just you, like, ask me anything. 266 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:17,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, seriously, I love to do Q and a's on 267 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:20,679 Speaker 4: my socials and kind of just connect. And sometimes it 268 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:24,199 Speaker 4: varies from like personal like life advice from other gen 269 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:27,320 Speaker 4: zs across the globe, to like how do I follow 270 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 4: my dreams? And how do I I want to be 271 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:31,360 Speaker 4: an actress? Like how do I go out and be 272 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:33,440 Speaker 4: an actress? I'm still in high school, and it's like 273 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:37,599 Speaker 4: I'm always looking for ways to like help my generation 274 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 4: like go after their dreams and conquer them. Especially with 275 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:44,319 Speaker 4: social media now, I feel like it's easier now than 276 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:46,560 Speaker 4: ever to go out and like have a dream and 277 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 4: be able to reach it, like within very close grasps. 278 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:51,960 Speaker 4: So I'm always trying to help my peers and it's 279 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 4: typically through social media, like through Q and A's and whatnot. 280 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 1: I feel like we can say it's easier, but in 281 00:13:57,280 --> 00:13:59,959 Speaker 1: a way, it's soundso harder because it's harder to sift 282 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 1: through so many different things, so many different people, and 283 00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 1: to really stand out that too. 284 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:08,960 Speaker 4: I definitely think that because everyone is on social media, 285 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 4: it is a little bit harder. 286 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 1: But it's like these people of my age still trying 287 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 1: to be like I want to be an influenceris I will. 288 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:18,560 Speaker 4: Say it is hard, but I do feel like with 289 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 4: social media we do have an advantage because we can 290 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 4: kind of shape and kind of bring to life our 291 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 4: own dreams and visions. Like before I got my show 292 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 4: on Snapchat, I was posting like weekly Instagram videos of 293 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 4: me like breaking down the latest that was happening in 294 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 4: like gen z pop culture, and that was kind of 295 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 4: like my own manifestation for my show. And it's like, 296 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 4: I feel like social media is an advantage in that 297 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:46,360 Speaker 4: way because you can kind of shape your goal and 298 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 4: kind of get it into the right eyes before it's 299 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 4: even brought to life. 300 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 3: Almost. 301 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 2: What advice would you have for entrepreneurs who are trying 302 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 2: to build their brands through social. 303 00:14:55,920 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 3: Through social media. 304 00:14:57,240 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 4: Specifically, I say, don't compare yourself and know your audience. 305 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 4: For me, my audience's gen Z, which is typically myself. 306 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 4: I'm very very basic gen Z girl, and I feel 307 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 4: like I can relate to a lot of things that 308 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 4: the average gen Zer is going through. Me and the 309 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 4: average eighteen year old girl probably think the exact same way. 310 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:23,000 Speaker 1: What do y'all be going through? 311 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 3: Exactly? 312 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 1: Talk about the one of these gen z things is 313 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 1: y'all going through? 314 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 3: You know, we go through a lot. 315 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:33,920 Speaker 4: Honestly, I feel like we have really short attention spans, 316 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 4: so it's very imperative, especially for me, that I continue 317 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 4: to remind myself why I'm doing what I'm doing and 318 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:44,000 Speaker 4: what my end goal is. Another thing that we deal 319 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 4: with is mental health issues. A lot of us are 320 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 4: very shy and like scared to speak out and actually 321 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 4: get help because it's like kind of a thing to 322 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 4: be ashamed of lego mental health, Like I don't need 323 00:15:55,680 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 4: to go to therapy. Sometimes it's okay to get help 324 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:01,160 Speaker 4: however that looks for for you, and I think Another 325 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 4: thing is hate our generation, especially with the help of 326 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 4: social media, is we look down upon each other, which 327 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 4: is why I try my best to kind of connect 328 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 4: with my peers because a lot of us, like I said, 329 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 4: there's so many videos that go viral for hate comments, 330 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:20,080 Speaker 4: and it's like, I feel like that is a really 331 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 4: big challenge within our generation. It's just like bringing each 332 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 4: other down instead of uplifting each other. 333 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:26,200 Speaker 3: You guys grew up in that. 334 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 2: Not talking political choices or anything. But I was just 335 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 2: thinking the other day, my son is your age, and 336 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 2: all he knows in terms of like elections or what 337 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 2: he's seen over the last eight years, Like that's normal 338 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 2: to you, guys. You haven't seen any other different models, 339 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 2: So I think you've come of age during a really 340 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 2: challenging time. 341 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 1: It's not demure. It's not classy. 342 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, not very demure. It hasn't been at all. 343 00:16:56,000 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 2: But I always took my hat off to generations generation, 344 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 2: particularly a majority of If you want to be entrepreneurs, 345 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:04,359 Speaker 2: why do you think that is? 346 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 4: Probably because we don't like to follow the roles. We 347 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:10,480 Speaker 4: don't like to be told what to do. We kind 348 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 4: of just like to go to the beat of our 349 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:16,400 Speaker 4: own drums. And we're also very creative. We like creative freedom, 350 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 4: and I feel like that's why social media has taken 351 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 4: off and why there are so many thriving creatives on 352 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:24,440 Speaker 4: the platform because it's like a way to just express 353 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 4: yourself in your full creative self at that too. And 354 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:31,200 Speaker 4: I feel like a lot of people are super successful 355 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:33,720 Speaker 4: on social media not because of their mission, but because 356 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:36,440 Speaker 4: they're how they're showing their mission. Like you can edit 357 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:40,480 Speaker 4: your videos in different ways and grasp like attention, you 358 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 4: can use different graphics and just like kind of use 359 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:47,879 Speaker 4: social media in really creative ways to kind of grasp 360 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 4: potential from people of all generations. 361 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:53,119 Speaker 1: Honestly, so, Stacy brought up politics lightly. I want to 362 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:55,119 Speaker 1: ask you this because I feel I do feel like 363 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:57,480 Speaker 1: politicians are always trying to figure out how do we 364 00:17:57,560 --> 00:18:00,400 Speaker 1: reach you know, gen z, how do we get them? 365 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 1: Because you guys are going to be the ones that 366 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 1: are really shaping what's coming next and the culture, and 367 00:18:06,119 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 1: they don't know how to really interact in that way. 368 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 1: What are some things that you have seen work or 369 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:12,600 Speaker 1: that resonate with you. 370 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:19,720 Speaker 4: I feel like one thing specifically in our generation is education. 371 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:23,159 Speaker 4: Like educating us about what's going on in politics is 372 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:26,440 Speaker 4: one way. Because a lot of us just became legal 373 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 4: age to vote, so a lot of us were voting 374 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:31,320 Speaker 4: this year and we're voting because of we're looking at 375 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:33,960 Speaker 4: tiktoks of like memes and like jokes and stuff, and 376 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:36,240 Speaker 4: it's like history exactly. 377 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 1: That's crazy because we've seen the effect that X has 378 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 1: had on the election, and then you're right, TikTok, you 379 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 1: see these quick funny. 380 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 4: We're looking at tiktoks and we're we're we're influenced. We're like, Okay, 381 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:50,800 Speaker 4: we know who to vote for because this video went 382 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:53,159 Speaker 4: viral and it has twenty million likes and it's funny, 383 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:56,439 Speaker 4: and it's like, I feel like we're a lot of 384 00:18:56,480 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 4: us are just not educated in politics enough to really 385 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:03,720 Speaker 4: understand it or to connect with these politicians and what's 386 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 4: happening in the political world. Honestly, I feel like that's 387 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:08,199 Speaker 4: a first step, but you have to educate us in 388 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:11,680 Speaker 4: ways that we will adhere to like the funny videos, 389 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:12,520 Speaker 4: but you know. 390 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:16,480 Speaker 2: Sometimes stunning with this election to see how many gen z, 391 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:20,600 Speaker 2: just all generations do not understand how the economy that 392 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 2: they live in works. 393 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, And that's another thing, and I feel like that's 394 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:26,880 Speaker 4: why I think social media is such a powerful tool, 395 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:29,920 Speaker 4: because it allows you to like open up a different 396 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:33,359 Speaker 4: perspective to things, And I feel like I learned so 397 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:36,439 Speaker 4: much from social media, which is scary because again, not 398 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 4: everything on social media is to be kicking. Yeah exactly 399 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:45,320 Speaker 4: exactly when the TikTok band went like live for d 400 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 4: for twelve hours, I saw so many memes on Instagram 401 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:51,680 Speaker 4: like I don't know how to cook, what's gonna happen? 402 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 4: So yeah, I feel like we learn a lot from 403 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 4: social media. I feel like, you know, just kind of 404 00:19:57,320 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 4: breaking down information to ways that we find interesting is 405 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:04,919 Speaker 4: the key to like grasping us and like, I don't know, 406 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:06,360 Speaker 4: making us understanding. 407 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:09,159 Speaker 2: Because millennials and Gen xers, well they're saying, like, client, 408 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:13,119 Speaker 2: the climate's a big concern, yeah, and the economy is 409 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:16,320 Speaker 2: a big concern, and yeah. 410 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:18,400 Speaker 1: What about even owning a home? Because I also see 411 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 1: that's a conversation where some people are like, you know, look, 412 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:24,960 Speaker 1: I'm not even thinking about that right now. And for us, 413 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 1: I feel like, coming up, it was always get a house, 414 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 1: buy a house, save your money, buy a house. 415 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:33,119 Speaker 4: I feel like, for me personally, I would love to 416 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 4: buy a house. However, right now I am a happy 417 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 4: apartment renter because I feel like it's just so much 418 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:41,640 Speaker 4: responsibility to own a. 419 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:43,359 Speaker 1: House I see that a lot with the gen Z. 420 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:46,800 Speaker 1: That was a whole conversation. Yeah, with the responsibility of 421 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:48,600 Speaker 1: having to fix something when it's broken. 422 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:52,240 Speaker 4: Ye, shovel snow, I like to call somebody, can you 423 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:55,440 Speaker 4: please fix this? I feel like maybe that's why we're 424 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 4: running away from children right now too. We like responsibility. Yeah, 425 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:02,920 Speaker 4: we're just like I feel like having ourselves this responsibility 426 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:05,399 Speaker 4: is enough, and like posting on social media and like 427 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 4: being in school is enough. I feel like gen Z 428 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:10,440 Speaker 4: right now, we're just trying to figure out our place 429 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:10,960 Speaker 4: in the world. 430 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:11,880 Speaker 1: Right so hard. 431 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 2: There's so many pressures on you that weren't on other generations. Yeah, 432 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:20,639 Speaker 2: and you also saw the generations before you work like 433 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:24,320 Speaker 2: maniacs and that cold grind mentality and then not pay 434 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:27,960 Speaker 2: off and how the economy was leveled against us. 435 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 4: But yeah, and I also feel like work for us 436 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:31,320 Speaker 4: looks different. 437 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 2: It looks totally it. I'm just jealous if you can't tell. 438 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:37,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, work for us is making sure that you're always 439 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 4: camera ready and that you can film a video of 440 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:41,880 Speaker 4: what you're eating for the day. 441 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:42,879 Speaker 3: So I'm ready. 442 00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 2: How much fun would we have through that all day? 443 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:47,159 Speaker 1: Or look? And now you can say I need a 444 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:50,520 Speaker 1: mental health day. I can't come in geez. I could 445 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:51,960 Speaker 1: have never said that, No, we could not. 446 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:55,400 Speaker 5: They'd be like, where, okay, okay, thank you mental health. 447 00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:57,200 Speaker 3: There's the door. 448 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:00,639 Speaker 1: But I want to ask you this because you are 449 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 1: a CEO, right, and so what does that look like 450 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:06,159 Speaker 1: for you on a daily basis running your business? 451 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:09,720 Speaker 4: You know, every day looks a little different and sometimes 452 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:14,320 Speaker 4: it gets very chaotic. I was at the Grammys this 453 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 4: past weekend, which was super fun, but I literally went 454 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:23,400 Speaker 4: the day was absolutely insane. I went to the carpet, 455 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 4: took my photos, came back home, wrote a two page 456 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:28,840 Speaker 4: paper for my Ethnic Studies class and I'm taking this winner. 457 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:32,080 Speaker 4: And then I went back to the Grammys to you know, 458 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:34,479 Speaker 4: conduct interviews in the media room. So I feel like 459 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:38,919 Speaker 4: my days are very varied. It just depends on the day. 460 00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:40,880 Speaker 4: And like I said, I like to spend a lot 461 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:43,200 Speaker 4: of time kind of just playing around. I love to 462 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:48,960 Speaker 4: play the sims. I rode on the sims all day. Yeah, 463 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 4: it just depends. 464 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:52,920 Speaker 2: But I feel like staffers, like a CMO, a CFO, 465 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:54,960 Speaker 2: people who run the company for you. 466 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:58,120 Speaker 4: No, it's just me and I do get a lot 467 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:02,160 Speaker 4: of help from my mom, who keeps me motivated. 468 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:02,720 Speaker 5: In the house. 469 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:04,919 Speaker 1: That keep me off camera, I do. 470 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:08,040 Speaker 3: My mom keeps me motivated. 471 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:10,520 Speaker 4: I do have a management team which kind of helps 472 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 4: with my personal stuff and then PR of course, so 473 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:15,159 Speaker 4: there's a very small team helping me. 474 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:18,920 Speaker 1: But what about getting ready for your interviews, because you've 475 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:24,240 Speaker 1: interviewed some major players like Gabielle Union, a little data pinket, 476 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:26,480 Speaker 1: like who when it comes to that, Like do you 477 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:28,440 Speaker 1: do all your own research? How do you get ready 478 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:30,639 Speaker 1: for that? Do you ever get nervous? 479 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:34,280 Speaker 4: Okay, I used to get nervous. I don't really get 480 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 4: nervous anymore because it's just a conversation, like we're just talking. 481 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:40,479 Speaker 4: And I also feel like I'm more intrigued now than 482 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:43,639 Speaker 4: ever to conduct interviews because it's like I want to 483 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:48,159 Speaker 4: get perspectives about things that we're looking at social media, 484 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 4: Like what's your thought on this trend? Do you like 485 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:55,200 Speaker 4: platform shoes? I feel like, I don't know. I love 486 00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:57,920 Speaker 4: conducting interviews like that, so I feel like it's not nervous. 487 00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:01,199 Speaker 4: It's not really I don't really get nervous anymore. But 488 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:03,000 Speaker 4: I do do a lot of research on who I'm 489 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 4: talking to, and I try to see different ways to 490 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:09,639 Speaker 4: kind of bring in my generation when talking to people 491 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:11,800 Speaker 4: from other generations, and I always kind of try to 492 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:14,680 Speaker 4: think outside the box and make it relevant for both 493 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:18,840 Speaker 4: parties and just see what new perspective I can bring 494 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:19,040 Speaker 4: In the. 495 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 2: Case you're studying journalism, it's just being a thorough journalist. 496 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:24,919 Speaker 2: What are going to be the next big social media trends? 497 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:29,800 Speaker 4: The next big social media trends? Right now, I have 498 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:33,399 Speaker 4: no clue. We're just not getting our lives back together 499 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:34,840 Speaker 4: now that we have TikTok. 500 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 1: But can you see a time because I remember when 501 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:41,359 Speaker 1: TikTok first came here, because so imagine life with that, 502 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:44,359 Speaker 1: you know, before, because it's hard to see that now 503 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:46,920 Speaker 1: because it's been around for so long. Same thing with Instagram. 504 00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 1: I remember when Instagram started. Even Twitter, yeah, you know, 505 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:52,160 Speaker 1: I remember Twitter starting. But right now there's a lot 506 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:55,200 Speaker 1: of talk about like why aren't we using our own platforms, 507 00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:59,399 Speaker 1: like black owned platforms, because we don't have that in 508 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:01,639 Speaker 1: the major way that we have these other ones. And 509 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:03,879 Speaker 1: we're the ones that I really bring into flavor to 510 00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:07,680 Speaker 1: these because without you know, black Twitter was a huge thing, 511 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:11,280 Speaker 1: and without that's on TikTok, without us on Instagram, what 512 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 1: is it really you know. 513 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:17,080 Speaker 4: That's such a great question, and I think to answer it, 514 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:21,200 Speaker 4: why we're not on our own platforms is because being 515 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:26,720 Speaker 4: on these main platforms is a way to connect with everybody. 516 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:29,679 Speaker 4: And it's like we're bringing black Twitter to all of 517 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 4: the Twitter users and we're bringing our flavor to everyone 518 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:36,199 Speaker 4: to see we're not just limiting it, and that it 519 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:39,240 Speaker 4: kind of it makes it expand more. It's like the 520 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:42,920 Speaker 4: exposure of it, it's beyond it can go anywhere. Now 521 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:46,119 Speaker 4: we're posting on Instagram and now everyone's seeing it in 522 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:49,720 Speaker 4: France and in London, and it's like it's the easiest 523 00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:54,879 Speaker 4: way to like get your message, your brand, yourself across 524 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:56,640 Speaker 4: the world within seconds. 525 00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:59,359 Speaker 2: You all really think in terms of a global economy. 526 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 2: And I love that I've worked at mainstream media doing 527 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 2: stories about underserved communities, but you want it to be 528 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:11,439 Speaker 2: a main you want to tell everybody about it. You 529 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 2: don't want it to be like, Okay, this is just 530 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:13,879 Speaker 2: a black media. 531 00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:14,399 Speaker 5: Yeah. 532 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:18,200 Speaker 4: And even with like the social media apps, like specifically 533 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:22,680 Speaker 4: talking about TikTok when we were banned for twelve hours, 534 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:25,520 Speaker 4: there were so many people from other countries who were like, Okay, 535 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:27,600 Speaker 4: the Americans are gone, Like what do we do now? 536 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:29,080 Speaker 3: And it's like, I feel like. 537 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:31,400 Speaker 4: Social media is out a way to connect with everybody 538 00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:34,280 Speaker 4: in the world, and it's like it just I don't know. 539 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:36,240 Speaker 4: I feel like it opens up new doors for everyone. 540 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 4: It's because we're like we're able to spread our messages 541 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:40,520 Speaker 4: to everyone across the world. 542 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:42,480 Speaker 1: One thing that people are always trying to figure out 543 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 1: is the algorithm. I always hear people talking about how 544 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:48,119 Speaker 1: can we affect the algorithm so more people are seeing this, 545 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:50,280 Speaker 1: or it feels like the algorithm change, or why am 546 00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:53,480 Speaker 1: I seeing this? So what are some things that you 547 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:56,000 Speaker 1: do to make sure that you're front and center? 548 00:26:56,800 --> 00:27:02,080 Speaker 4: You know, the algorithm always changes. It always changes, and 549 00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:05,080 Speaker 4: I think it is so annoying as a content creator. 550 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:08,159 Speaker 1: You'd be like, how come no one's engaging with. 551 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:10,359 Speaker 3: Sorry to all my reps who are watching this. 552 00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel like for me, which kind of helps 553 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:19,080 Speaker 4: me stay motivated amidst you know the algorithm changes, is 554 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:21,920 Speaker 4: to just think about what I'm watching on socials because 555 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:23,720 Speaker 4: at the end of the day, I am my audience 556 00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:26,440 Speaker 4: and so that kind of helps me navigate to see 557 00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 4: my latest obsession is like doing graphic carousels on my Instagram, 558 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:34,080 Speaker 4: which it takes like the classic carousel where you just 559 00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:36,080 Speaker 4: put a bunch of photos and you kind of make 560 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:38,800 Speaker 4: them like power points almost, and you add like really 561 00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:41,600 Speaker 4: cute graphics and letterings, and I feel like it gives 562 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 4: a little bit more oomph to the average carousel where 563 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:47,000 Speaker 4: I would just be posting a photo of me here, 564 00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:49,439 Speaker 4: a photo of a building, a photo of what I ate, 565 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:52,679 Speaker 4: and it just adds a little bit more color, it 566 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:55,960 Speaker 4: adds more attention, and it kind of just brings a 567 00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:59,639 Speaker 4: new perspective to something that we're already seeing like so 568 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:00,919 Speaker 4: much of online. 569 00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:02,560 Speaker 1: So you would be great to put in together like 570 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:05,120 Speaker 1: a deck or a proposal for yeah, because that's kind 571 00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:05,760 Speaker 1: of what that is. 572 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:10,320 Speaker 4: And essentially, yeah, I think, And it's like always just 573 00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:13,440 Speaker 4: finding more creative ways to get people to look at 574 00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 4: your stuff and like understand what you're going for. My 575 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:22,000 Speaker 4: next thing is like editing. Editing is so tedious, and 576 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:24,760 Speaker 4: I applaud those creatives who really know how to edit, 577 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:27,919 Speaker 4: because it's like I've been editing for years and I 578 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 4: still don't know what I'm doing at this point. I'm 579 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:33,520 Speaker 4: just editing so that I can keep, you know, the 580 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:35,680 Speaker 4: short attention span, because if I can't watch my video 581 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:36,280 Speaker 4: all the way through. 582 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:37,720 Speaker 3: I don't know who's gonna watch my video? 583 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 1: Is there a perfect length? Because that's another thing that 584 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:40,920 Speaker 1: people talk about when. 585 00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:45,480 Speaker 4: You're like, no, but I saw this girl on TikTok 586 00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:47,680 Speaker 4: say like, if you're not doing something every three seconds 587 00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:50,200 Speaker 4: in your video, like I'm done, and it's like, okay, 588 00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:53,960 Speaker 4: if I'm watching my video, damn Yeah, She's like, you 589 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,240 Speaker 4: need a click, you need a pop, you need something 590 00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:58,880 Speaker 4: on the screen, a transition. I kind of take that. 591 00:28:59,880 --> 00:29:01,280 Speaker 4: I kind of take that and keep it in the 592 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:04,240 Speaker 4: back of my head. But I'm also like, I would 593 00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:06,440 Speaker 4: I still be listening to this if five seconds have 594 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:08,080 Speaker 4: gone on and I'm still in the same place, And 595 00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:09,840 Speaker 4: would I still be watching this or what I've. 596 00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:10,840 Speaker 3: Scrolled by now? 597 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:13,160 Speaker 4: So yeah, I kind of just refer back to myself. 598 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:16,239 Speaker 4: But it's all about your audience, like who's watching this. 599 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:19,720 Speaker 4: I feel like my generation specifically has a really short 600 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:22,600 Speaker 4: attention span, but other generations are different. 601 00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:23,520 Speaker 3: They're drawn to. 602 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:26,120 Speaker 1: Movies and series. Do you watch TV like that? 603 00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:30,800 Speaker 3: I don't really watch series. I can't. I cannot. I 604 00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:33,800 Speaker 3: love a good rom calm though. Okay, movies I can do. 605 00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:37,520 Speaker 4: But the only series that has kept me like in 606 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:42,000 Speaker 4: is Gray's Anatomy, okay, and now The Sex Lives of 607 00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:45,800 Speaker 4: College Girls. But they're about to lose me because we're 608 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:47,520 Speaker 4: on the next season and I've been waiting for the 609 00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:49,400 Speaker 4: next episode for like a week now. I'm like, I 610 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:51,840 Speaker 4: don't even know if I remember what happened last last week. 611 00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:56,000 Speaker 3: I hate that long gap between series. It's crazy. So yeah, 612 00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:57,800 Speaker 3: not really a TV person. 613 00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:00,760 Speaker 1: Like back in my day, you just have to wait 614 00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:03,400 Speaker 1: every week for another episode to come on. Now you'll 615 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:04,280 Speaker 1: get it all at once. 616 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:08,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, I need it all at once. Yeah, that's awesome. 617 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:13,320 Speaker 2: We are so happy that you stopped by and really 618 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:15,160 Speaker 2: to be kicking off a woman's history once, so someone 619 00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:17,640 Speaker 2: is really trailblazing and making history. 620 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:19,640 Speaker 1: You should be so proud of yourself for everything that 621 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:23,400 Speaker 1: you've accomplished so far and the way up that you're going. 622 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:24,800 Speaker 1: So thank you for coming through. 623 00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:26,400 Speaker 3: Thank you. You know we're going to be calling you. 624 00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:27,320 Speaker 3: Well should we put this in? 625 00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:28,080 Speaker 2: Yeah? 626 00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 3: Call me. 627 00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:30,880 Speaker 1: You don't have to go on when she's doing her 628 00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:33,000 Speaker 1: ask me anythings, and yeah, seriously 629 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:40,720 Speaker 5: Okay, seriously, okay, I thank you way