WEBVTT - Eagles Postgame Show 0:00:27.880 --> 0:00:30.600 Welcome to the postgame show, presented by Rico. I'm Gabriella 0:00:30.640 --> 0:00:33.599 di Giovanni, joined by friend Duffy and I Greece. Well 0:00:33.680 --> 0:00:36.440 fellas the undefeated run came to an end here tonight, 0:00:36.440 --> 0:00:39.800 thirty two to twenty one the Washington Commanders win in Philadelphia. 0:00:40.320 --> 0:00:41.960 It's not the way that we wanted to see that 0:00:42.040 --> 0:00:44.960 first loss hit the board this season, but it happened. 0:00:45.000 --> 0:00:47.360 That's what happens, and it was more likely to happen 0:00:47.440 --> 0:00:50.040 than not to happen. It was just a matter of 0:00:50.120 --> 0:00:53.000 how it would look. And I'm a little surprised at 0:00:54.280 --> 0:00:56.680 how rusty we looked out there to night, taking care 0:00:56.720 --> 0:00:59.440 of the football, doing things that we hadn't done the 0:00:59.520 --> 0:01:02.560 previous eight weeks of the season. This looked like a 0:01:02.600 --> 0:01:05.800 team that hadn't played in eleven days. A lot of 0:01:05.840 --> 0:01:07.600 stuff they need to clean up, a lot of things 0:01:07.600 --> 0:01:09.280 they need to go back to the drawing board to 0:01:09.400 --> 0:01:12.160 work on. But like you said, Ella, you know the 0:01:12.280 --> 0:01:15.039 talk of being undefeated and going seventeen and old. Now 0:01:15.080 --> 0:01:17.880 you can erase that and get back to the drawing board. 0:01:18.160 --> 0:01:20.600 And even though you may think at times that you 0:01:20.680 --> 0:01:23.759 are dotting all the eyes, crossing all the teas. When 0:01:23.760 --> 0:01:26.759 you're paying attention to details prepping every week. It's only 0:01:26.760 --> 0:01:29.840 a human nature to go nine weeks without losing the 0:01:29.880 --> 0:01:32.640 game that sometimes you may overlook some things and you 0:01:32.680 --> 0:01:34.640 may get a little relaxed. So I think this is 0:01:34.680 --> 0:01:37.480 a great teaching moment for this team to sort of 0:01:37.520 --> 0:01:42.120 have them sort of reu they can go back, recalibrate, 0:01:42.240 --> 0:01:44.319 and then get ready for the rest of the season. Yeah. 0:01:44.360 --> 0:01:46.000 I think the reality is is that one of the 0:01:46.040 --> 0:01:48.240 hallmarks of this team through the first ten weeks of 0:01:48.240 --> 0:01:50.960 the season has been that they do not beat themselves. Well. Tonight, 0:01:51.160 --> 0:01:54.840 they beat themselves seven penalties for seventy five yards, penalties 0:01:54.840 --> 0:01:57.080 in all three phases of the game. No one is 0:01:57.120 --> 0:01:59.560 safe here in this one because the defense they had 0:01:59.560 --> 0:02:01.919 some keep penalties. That one down the stretch a killer 0:02:01.960 --> 0:02:04.400 for this team. Special teams had at least two penalties 0:02:04.440 --> 0:02:05.960 that I can think of off the top of my head. 0:02:06.120 --> 0:02:09.000 Four turnovers on offense. You lose the turnover battle for 0:02:09.120 --> 0:02:10.720 the first time. It's a lot of the things that 0:02:10.840 --> 0:02:13.640 Nick Sirianni has pointed to and say these determined wins 0:02:13.639 --> 0:02:16.280 and losses. Tonight and determined a loss, We're gonna check 0:02:16.280 --> 0:02:19.000 in with Eagles insider Dave Spider, who joins US from 0:02:19.080 --> 0:02:22.040 Lincoln Financial Field. Dave, we just started talking about the 0:02:22.080 --> 0:02:25.079 turnover battle. Through the first eight games of the season, 0:02:25.120 --> 0:02:31.640 the Eagles committed three turnovers four just tonight. What went wrong? Well, 0:02:31.639 --> 0:02:33.519 I mean, let's look at each one of them. The 0:02:33.520 --> 0:02:36.720 first one the Jalen Hurts interception, I mean, a perfectly 0:02:36.800 --> 0:02:39.800 thrown ball that in good coverage that A J. Brown 0:02:39.880 --> 0:02:42.320 didn't come up within. The defensive back made a great 0:02:42.320 --> 0:02:45.880 play on. Then Dallas Goddard gets face masked, very cleared 0:02:45.919 --> 0:02:49.720 everybody but the officials and loses the football. That was 0:02:49.760 --> 0:02:51.760 a really tough one that led to three Washington points. 0:02:51.800 --> 0:02:55.160 And then of course with Quez Watkins there, you know, 0:02:55.240 --> 0:02:58.680 Careless made a great catch, perfectly thrown ball, great play, 0:02:58.880 --> 0:03:02.120 great design, great everything. And then Quiz got up and 0:03:02.160 --> 0:03:04.960 just didn't feel the pressure from the backside. And that 0:03:05.000 --> 0:03:08.400 one was really the real real killers. So, I mean, 0:03:08.440 --> 0:03:11.360 you cannot be sloppy with the football. We talked about 0:03:11.400 --> 0:03:14.280 it before the game, how the signs around the novacare 0:03:14.360 --> 0:03:18.680 complex of affirmation of the importance of ball security. The 0:03:18.720 --> 0:03:21.080 players know it, the coaches know it. The Eagles had 0:03:21.120 --> 0:03:24.200 been historically great at it through eight games, and you 0:03:24.280 --> 0:03:26.000 knew it would catch up with him at some point, 0:03:26.000 --> 0:03:29.200 and tonight was a night. So Washington is the first 0:03:29.200 --> 0:03:31.440 team to beat the Eagles this season. Did they create 0:03:31.520 --> 0:03:34.040 some type of blueprint for teams store to face the 0:03:34.040 --> 0:03:37.200 Eagles coming down the stretch? Yeah? No, Actually I think 0:03:37.240 --> 0:03:40.960 Houston did last week because the Houston Texans ran the 0:03:40.960 --> 0:03:44.200 football very effectively and then worked off of play action. 0:03:44.240 --> 0:03:46.880 And as ike reason I talked about in the press box, 0:03:46.920 --> 0:03:49.360 it's a copycat league, and Washington came in here and 0:03:49.360 --> 0:03:52.600 did the exact same thing. The Eagles ran nineteen offensive 0:03:52.600 --> 0:03:55.920 plays in the first half. It was twenty to fourteen, 0:03:55.920 --> 0:03:59.200 but it shure felt like more Eagles offense just didn't 0:03:59.240 --> 0:04:01.240 get into any sort of rhythm in the Eagles defense. 0:04:01.760 --> 0:04:04.760 I don't know what the final numbers were with the 0:04:04.800 --> 0:04:06.560 third downs, but at one, I mean it was just 0:04:06.640 --> 0:04:09.000 ten of thirteen and eleven of fourteen. I mean it 0:04:09.040 --> 0:04:12.720 was just the ability to run the football. Taylor Heineke 0:04:12.840 --> 0:04:15.360 in third and short situations got the short passing game. 0:04:15.400 --> 0:04:18.400 Going play action passing nullified the Eagles pass rush, and 0:04:18.960 --> 0:04:21.320 you know that is your formula to beat the Philadelphia Eagles. 0:04:21.360 --> 0:04:25.320 The Eagles must stop the run and Jonathan Taylor awaits 0:04:25.360 --> 0:04:28.120 on Sunday and not to find in the far distance. 0:04:28.160 --> 0:04:31.200 You know, Derrick Henry and the way the Packers can 0:04:31.279 --> 0:04:33.640 run the football, I mean, Giants run the football at 0:04:34.200 --> 0:04:37.200 Cowboys run the football. That is what the Eagles are 0:04:37.200 --> 0:04:39.480 going after face. In these final two months of the 0:04:39.520 --> 0:04:42.919 regular season, the Commanders finished twelve for twenty one on 0:04:43.120 --> 0:04:46.520 third down. Like you mentioned, back to your regular routine 0:04:46.640 --> 0:04:49.240 Sunday football coming up against the Colts. But it is 0:04:49.360 --> 0:04:51.039 a bit of a short week yet again here for 0:04:51.080 --> 0:04:53.560 the Eagles. What does this week gonna look like? Dave, Yeah, 0:04:53.560 --> 0:04:55.159 I think that's actually a good thing because I know 0:04:55.200 --> 0:04:57.240 the Eagles are stewing. I know that they're stewing over 0:04:57.279 --> 0:05:00.200 the last play when Heineke took the knee and two 0:05:00.240 --> 0:05:02.800 players kind of slid into him. It's certainly from my 0:05:02.920 --> 0:05:05.080 angle on the sidelines here, didn't look like it was 0:05:05.120 --> 0:05:08.320 anything egregious. I mean, there were some plays that's clearly 0:05:08.320 --> 0:05:11.880 the officials did not see tonight and replay bared it out. 0:05:11.880 --> 0:05:13.800 But that's just the way the NFL is and that's 0:05:13.880 --> 0:05:16.360 human error and you gotta live with that. More importantly, 0:05:16.400 --> 0:05:18.400 the Eagles have to get back to a as France 0:05:18.440 --> 0:05:22.160 at protecting the football, minimizing the penalties, and then defensively, 0:05:22.600 --> 0:05:25.480 they have got to get off the field on third downs. 0:05:25.520 --> 0:05:28.280 And what was really, I guess the most concerning, not concerning, 0:05:28.360 --> 0:05:31.840 but surprising, the way Terry McLaren just ate up the 0:05:31.880 --> 0:05:34.240 Eagles in the first half and through the game. I 0:05:34.240 --> 0:05:36.720 mean he was opened a lot of this game. After 0:05:36.800 --> 0:05:39.480 the Eagles shut him down in Week three. I was 0:05:39.480 --> 0:05:43.480 surprised at that. I didn't think Washington had the firepower 0:05:43.880 --> 0:05:45.720 to put up that many points in his game, but 0:05:45.839 --> 0:05:48.480 they did. And the Washington Enters are very much a 0:05:48.520 --> 0:05:51.919 playoff team at this point in the NFC. What a division. 0:05:51.920 --> 0:05:53.720 There's not gonna be any gimmeas down the stretch for 0:05:53.760 --> 0:05:57.040 the Philadelphia Eagles, mclauren had eight receptions for one hundred 0:05:57.120 --> 0:05:59.480 and twenty eight yards. And I knew you'll be delivering 0:05:59.560 --> 0:06:02.640 Eagles and all they need to know postgame. As you 0:06:02.720 --> 0:06:05.680 start to collect your sound from players in the locker room, 0:06:06.560 --> 0:06:09.240 that locker room's gonna be really interesting. Ella. I think that, 0:06:09.440 --> 0:06:11.479 certainly after the first loss, and it's gonna be a 0:06:11.480 --> 0:06:14.160 pretty peeved locker room. It'll be interesting to see if 0:06:14.120 --> 0:06:16.920 the tune into Eagles Insider podcast incident reaction in just 0:06:16.960 --> 0:06:19.560 a couple of hours. That was Eagles Insider Dave Spidera, 0:06:19.560 --> 0:06:21.040 and we're gonna bring it back here to the desk 0:06:21.400 --> 0:06:24.000 Terry McLaurin. Let's just keep going with that conversation. Eight 0:06:24.080 --> 0:06:26.760 receptions for one hundred and twenty eight yards. He was 0:06:26.800 --> 0:06:30.039 not only catching basically everything thrown his way, but the 0:06:30.160 --> 0:06:32.480 yards he was able to gain after the catch is 0:06:32.520 --> 0:06:34.880 really what burnt the Eagles defense. Yeah, and a little 0:06:34.920 --> 0:06:38.680 surprised that at the some point you didn't get more 0:06:39.240 --> 0:06:43.120 press coverage for Terry McLaurin because it wasn't much vertical 0:06:43.200 --> 0:06:46.200 throws to Terry. A lot of it was crossing the field, 0:06:46.279 --> 0:06:50.160 so you get either it's a sleigh or Bradberry in 0:06:50.160 --> 0:06:53.560 that sort of chase position. Terry McLaurin is gonna beat 0:06:53.600 --> 0:06:56.920 you there. And it starts with how well Washington ran 0:06:57.040 --> 0:06:59.520 the football on early downs, and they hit you with 0:06:59.600 --> 0:07:03.080 that play action or those boot plays. And now you 0:07:03.120 --> 0:07:07.479 don't have the second level defenders underneath Terry McLaurin to 0:07:07.520 --> 0:07:09.440 sort of help out the dbs who are sort of 0:07:09.480 --> 0:07:11.800 playing over the top. When you get those crossing routes, 0:07:12.160 --> 0:07:15.600 the dB has to be wary of is he gonna 0:07:15.640 --> 0:07:17.960 go over and then try to beat me deep or 0:07:18.000 --> 0:07:20.400 does he keep going over? So that's where he's relying 0:07:20.680 --> 0:07:23.920 on those underneath guys, those linebackers. The problem was, I 0:07:23.920 --> 0:07:26.720 thought Washington ran the football so well. You got the 0:07:26.760 --> 0:07:29.640 linebackers sucked up on the run an awful lot, and 0:07:29.760 --> 0:07:33.840 those middle routes were open all day for Heineke, Terry 0:07:33.880 --> 0:07:36.920 McLaurin and even Samuel's and sometimes. Yeah, it just hurt 0:07:37.000 --> 0:07:39.200 that so many of the world third down that was 0:07:39.240 --> 0:07:41.000 the pivotal point in this game. I mean, yeah, they 0:07:41.280 --> 0:07:43.800 finished twelve to twenty one. As you mentioned, just looking 0:07:43.800 --> 0:07:46.320 even through the numbers, they started twelve or fourteen on 0:07:46.400 --> 0:07:48.760 third down, which some of those players were just so 0:07:48.760 --> 0:07:51.480 so crucial, and a lot of it went to Terry 0:07:51.560 --> 0:07:54.520 McLarin Curtis Samuel had a crucial one early in the 0:07:54.560 --> 0:07:56.280 third quarter as well. So I think when you look 0:07:56.320 --> 0:07:58.560 at just third inability to get off the field on 0:07:58.600 --> 0:08:01.520 third down, even looking at the numbers, Brian Robinson finished 0:08:01.880 --> 0:08:04.040 eighty six yards on the ground three point three a 0:08:04.120 --> 0:08:06.600 carry like that, that's not terrible if you're looking at 0:08:06.600 --> 0:08:08.920 it grand scope, but just the way that they were 0:08:08.920 --> 0:08:12.240 able to gradually move the ball down the field and 0:08:12.280 --> 0:08:15.240 then those very timely throws with those yards after catch, 0:08:15.440 --> 0:08:17.400 they killed this team. Well, here's the problem. When you 0:08:17.400 --> 0:08:19.400 have the defense on the field for that long, they're 0:08:19.400 --> 0:08:21.640 gonna get gas. And I understand in the defense the line, 0:08:21.680 --> 0:08:23.960 there's a rotation there, but I mean in the first 0:08:23.960 --> 0:08:27.600 half they outplayed the Eagles. They were on the field 0:08:27.600 --> 0:08:30.440 for twenty three almost twenty four minutes, as opposed to 0:08:30.440 --> 0:08:32.440 the Eagles offense being on the field for just over 0:08:32.559 --> 0:08:36.319 six minutes. I mean, ken is a massive disparity between 0:08:36.360 --> 0:08:39.080 the two. Yeah, and you can say with the offense 0:08:39.280 --> 0:08:41.080 they could help out a little bit by picking up 0:08:41.120 --> 0:08:43.800 first downs. But there's a couple of circumstances there where 0:08:43.800 --> 0:08:45.520 the defense just have to get off the field. There's 0:08:45.520 --> 0:08:47.839 a quick score when the defense gets the sack and 0:08:47.920 --> 0:08:50.400 the Forest fumble, so that puts the defense back on 0:08:50.520 --> 0:08:52.560 the field, as it didn't take long for the offense. 0:08:52.840 --> 0:08:56.000 You gotta get off the field on third down, you know, friends, 0:08:56.040 --> 0:08:59.040 exactly right, Those final numbers are misleading when you look 0:08:59.040 --> 0:09:01.640 at the third down converts from Washington twelve or twenty 0:09:01.640 --> 0:09:03.640 one wouldn't make it would make it seem like it 0:09:03.679 --> 0:09:06.160 wasn't that bad. But the fact that it was twelve 0:09:06.240 --> 0:09:08.520 or fourteen to really go from the first three and 0:09:08.520 --> 0:09:11.760 a half quarters of this game really was the telltale 0:09:11.760 --> 0:09:15.760 sign for me that the Eagles were getting worn down right, 0:09:15.800 --> 0:09:17.480 and you can get a little help from your offense. 0:09:17.520 --> 0:09:19.840 They can extend draws. Certainly, they need to pick up 0:09:19.880 --> 0:09:22.840 first downs, we understand that. But as a defense, you 0:09:22.920 --> 0:09:25.360 have to pride yourself when you get to third down, 0:09:25.480 --> 0:09:27.199 it's time to get off the field. It was far 0:09:27.240 --> 0:09:30.400 too many times where Washington was able to stay ahead 0:09:30.400 --> 0:09:33.559 of the sticks and get in third and short situations, 0:09:33.920 --> 0:09:36.880 and it didn't force Taylor Heineke to sit back there 0:09:36.880 --> 0:09:40.800 and win the game. He actually was playing from under control, 0:09:41.000 --> 0:09:42.920 as if okay, we can run the ball or we 0:09:42.960 --> 0:09:46.160 can hit him with the boot, and he wasn't uncomfortable 0:09:46.280 --> 0:09:48.760 enough for me tonight. Taylor Heineke, Yeah, I think at 0:09:48.760 --> 0:09:49.959 the end of the day, I mean, that's the thing 0:09:50.000 --> 0:09:52.680 is that the Eagles came out first drive gets extended 0:09:52.679 --> 0:09:55.920 because of the roughing the kicker penalty. Luckily they come back, 0:09:55.920 --> 0:09:57.760 they get the sack fumble, so that's a four play 0:09:57.880 --> 0:10:00.400 drive to start the game for Washington. But they come 0:10:00.440 --> 0:10:03.000 back sixteen plays in our thirteen plays on the next 0:10:03.080 --> 0:10:06.680 drive eleven, then sixteen six to close out the first 0:10:06.679 --> 0:10:08.840 half of that long fifty eight yard field goal. Then 0:10:08.880 --> 0:10:10.440 they come back out of the locker room with a 0:10:10.480 --> 0:10:13.280 thirteen play drive. I mean it's four drives. They all 0:10:13.320 --> 0:10:16.840 go for over eleven plays. That's draining for a defense 0:10:16.880 --> 0:10:19.480 and that's tough to rebound from. The offense could not 0:10:19.520 --> 0:10:21.360 get into a rhythm. The offense even when you looked 0:10:21.360 --> 0:10:23.080 at it in the small sample size. They were two 0:10:23.080 --> 0:10:25.160 for three on third down, that a couple of touchdown 0:10:25.240 --> 0:10:27.360 drives in that first half. They just could They were 0:10:27.400 --> 0:10:29.200 not on the field long enough to be able to 0:10:29.240 --> 0:10:31.800 sustain all that offense. The defense just could not get 0:10:31.840 --> 0:10:34.079 off the field this week. And as locker Brandon Graham 0:10:34.120 --> 0:10:37.079 said that Taylor Heineke has added a spark to this offense, 0:10:37.320 --> 0:10:39.480 and you saw that here tonight. This was a different 0:10:39.480 --> 0:10:41.839 team playing than we saw in Week three. There was 0:10:41.880 --> 0:10:44.520 more confidence. They were playing with a lot of confidence. 0:10:44.520 --> 0:10:46.440 And when you think about what the Eagles defense was 0:10:46.480 --> 0:10:48.760 able to do to Carson Wentz in that offensive line 0:10:48.760 --> 0:10:51.400 in week three. That just wasn't happening tonight. They weren't 0:10:51.440 --> 0:10:53.760 always winning in the trenches, and that's where it has 0:10:53.760 --> 0:10:55.640 to get done first. Yeah, and you got to give 0:10:55.640 --> 0:10:58.640 Washington a little credit. They came in and I think 0:10:58.679 --> 0:11:01.120 what you're gonna get it is the game plan from 0:11:01.160 --> 0:11:03.840 these teams coming up next is we can't try to 0:11:03.880 --> 0:11:06.480 outscore the Philadelphia We can't try to win a shootout 0:11:06.520 --> 0:11:10.600 against his team, and maybe that their best defense is 0:11:10.640 --> 0:11:13.960 trying to keep the Eagles offense on the sideline, and 0:11:14.000 --> 0:11:16.439 so you're gonna get running the football you saw it 0:11:16.480 --> 0:11:18.560 out of Houston, try to win the time of possession. 0:11:18.760 --> 0:11:21.960 Tonight's game plan to me from Washington was let's keep 0:11:22.000 --> 0:11:24.880 that Eagles offense on the sideline as long as possible 0:11:25.240 --> 0:11:27.520 and stick with the run, even if it's only three 0:11:27.600 --> 0:11:30.160 yards at a time. Because that's really the difference in 0:11:30.240 --> 0:11:33.040 the first game they played against Washington in this game 0:11:33.360 --> 0:11:35.600 is that the first game they tried to come out 0:11:35.960 --> 0:11:39.040 and win with Carson Wentz's arms and that offensive line 0:11:39.080 --> 0:11:41.560 couldn't protect. Tonight, they said, you know what, if we 0:11:41.679 --> 0:11:43.920 keep this game close, we get it to the second half, 0:11:44.000 --> 0:11:46.520 who knows what's gonna happen. Let's put the ball and 0:11:46.600 --> 0:11:50.000 Brian Robinson and Gibson's hands, and if we need to 0:11:50.040 --> 0:11:52.800 throw the ball on third down, you give Taylor heinike 0:11:53.640 --> 0:11:56.199 easy throws, smart throws to where he can keep the 0:11:56.240 --> 0:11:58.680 ball out of harm's way. Because he threw over a 0:11:58.720 --> 0:12:00.640 couple of overthrows out there night. It could have been 0:12:00.679 --> 0:12:02.920 picked off as well. He finally got intercepted late in 0:12:02.920 --> 0:12:04.960 the game, but I thought there were some other throws 0:12:05.000 --> 0:12:07.120 there that if we had someone in the right position, 0:12:07.160 --> 0:12:09.120 it should have been an interception. They didn't want to 0:12:09.160 --> 0:12:12.160 win by Hinnicks throwing the football until he had to 0:12:12.200 --> 0:12:14.959 throw the football. It's not Jamison nikecap yet. They're not 0:12:15.000 --> 0:12:16.440 at that point of the show. But I got news 0:12:16.440 --> 0:12:18.760 for us right now. That's how the Colts won that 0:12:18.800 --> 0:12:20.960 game yesterday is that they went out and they said, 0:12:21.080 --> 0:12:23.120 you know, we're gonna run the football at Jonathan Taylor. 0:12:23.120 --> 0:12:25.560 He had his best day rushing over the entire season. 0:12:25.600 --> 0:12:27.959 We're gonna run the ball, We're gonna play ball control. 0:12:28.000 --> 0:12:30.160 It was a lot of quick throws. Matt Ryan throw 0:12:30.720 --> 0:12:34.400 through two passes past fifteen yards yesterday. They all they 0:12:34.440 --> 0:12:36.840 wanted to do was dink and dunk, run the football, 0:12:36.920 --> 0:12:39.360 control the clock, played good defense, and they go out 0:12:39.360 --> 0:12:41.480 and they get a win. And Jeff Saturday's debut as 0:12:41.520 --> 0:12:43.400 the head coach, I think we know what the formulas. 0:12:44.559 --> 0:12:46.800 That's exactly what they were gonna do here next Sunday 0:12:46.840 --> 0:12:49.959 out of the Lucasoil Stadium. We're gonna keep chugging away here. 0:12:49.960 --> 0:12:52.320 But be sure to go into the Facebook comments for 0:12:52.320 --> 0:12:54.560 our Ask Ike segment. You can ask any questions you 0:12:54.600 --> 0:12:56.560 may have and we will air them right here on 0:12:56.600 --> 0:12:58.480 the show for Ike to answer to the best a 0:12:58.559 --> 0:13:03.160 prisability in France. Right, and Dave and I were talking 0:13:03.200 --> 0:13:05.720 about this during the game. It's a copycat league. So 0:13:06.000 --> 0:13:09.440 when the team sees something on film and they see 0:13:09.440 --> 0:13:12.200 that it's successful against their upcoming opponent, then they're going 0:13:12.280 --> 0:13:15.400 to implement that into their game plan. And if you 0:13:15.400 --> 0:13:17.600 look at Indie next week, not to move past this game, 0:13:17.960 --> 0:13:20.160 but it's what's coming up next. When you look at 0:13:20.200 --> 0:13:22.240 the type of running backs, whether it's Green Bay with 0:13:22.280 --> 0:13:25.640 Aaron Jones and AJ Dillon or you get King Henry 0:13:25.880 --> 0:13:29.160 in three weeks when they faced Tennessee, that's what this 0:13:29.320 --> 0:13:31.640 defense is going to get until they proved that they 0:13:31.640 --> 0:13:35.839 can stop the run and tackling was something that mistackles 0:13:35.840 --> 0:13:38.560 we saw in the last game against the Houston Texas 0:13:38.880 --> 0:13:41.400 showed up a little bit again tonight. We have to 0:13:41.600 --> 0:13:45.320 with that second level get off blocks. Are linebackers. I 0:13:45.440 --> 0:13:48.400 love their athleticism, I love their toughness. We got to 0:13:48.400 --> 0:13:51.760 do a better job of hitting, shedding the blocks, and 0:13:51.840 --> 0:13:54.640 bringing the ball carriers down. Yeah. I think that the 0:13:54.679 --> 0:13:56.920 big thing just going back and watching this will be 0:13:57.360 --> 0:14:00.520 exactly what happened with those run plays. They the long 0:14:00.760 --> 0:14:03.760 play on the ground eleven yards. This isn't like last 0:14:03.800 --> 0:14:06.400 Thursday night where you saw the running back Damian Pierce 0:14:06.480 --> 0:14:08.680 bust out that thirty six yard or in the first 0:14:08.520 --> 0:14:10.440 quart in the first quarter, and you got a bunch 0:14:10.480 --> 0:14:12.840 of miss tackles. It was just death by a thousand 0:14:12.840 --> 0:14:15.400 paper cuts. It was plus three, plus four, plus five, 0:14:15.720 --> 0:14:17.319 and all of a sudden, the Eagles were behind the 0:14:17.360 --> 0:14:19.680 sixth A bunch of those conversions in that first half, 0:14:19.920 --> 0:14:22.080 third and two, third and three, third and one, and 0:14:22.160 --> 0:14:24.360 they're running for two, they're running for three, they're running 0:14:24.360 --> 0:14:27.080 for four and moving the chains. That's that's tough way 0:14:27.080 --> 0:14:29.440 to live as a defense. And we talked about this 0:14:29.560 --> 0:14:32.600 during the week on the Eagles game plan. The different 0:14:32.600 --> 0:14:35.760 ways that Washington tries to run the football. You know, 0:14:35.800 --> 0:14:39.480 they rarely fire off the ball and put a hat 0:14:39.520 --> 0:14:41.600 on a hat. You're gonna get the Jets sweeps. You're 0:14:41.600 --> 0:14:45.440 gonna get Curtis Samuel in the backfield. You know, he 0:14:45.560 --> 0:14:49.360 converted the one into round play for first down. So Washington, 0:14:49.440 --> 0:14:51.720 you knew that's the type of running game you were 0:14:51.760 --> 0:14:54.760 gonna see today. In their backs, they're two backs. They 0:14:54.800 --> 0:14:58.240 aren't explosive runners, so they're more north south runners where 0:14:58.240 --> 0:15:00.520 they aren't gonna make people miss. They just gonna try 0:15:00.560 --> 0:15:03.640 to plow forward, and that can be frustrating to a defense. 0:15:03.760 --> 0:15:06.760 I'm telling you, it reminds me of the playoff game 0:15:06.760 --> 0:15:09.160 we played against Green Bay in three to fourth and 0:15:09.200 --> 0:15:13.160 twenty six game and being out there against Naji Dadmnpord 0:15:13.240 --> 0:15:16.200 and those guys your mon Green Yeah, and I was 0:15:16.240 --> 0:15:18.360 out there and place of Carlos Emmons. That was a 0:15:18.360 --> 0:15:20.600 long day for your boy. Yeah, that was a long 0:15:20.680 --> 0:15:22.920 day for your boy, only two hundred and twenty pounds. 0:15:23.040 --> 0:15:25.480 They kept running those big guys over there at me. 0:15:25.960 --> 0:15:28.440 And I'm telling you, you're out there and you're saying 0:15:28.480 --> 0:15:30.920 I'm taking on these blocks. I'm fighting, I'm doing everything 0:15:30.960 --> 0:15:33.360 I can and it's still just not enough, and that 0:15:33.520 --> 0:15:35.640 it was just one of those days. And that's kind 0:15:35.680 --> 0:15:37.200 of the way tonight went for the Eagles. I will 0:15:37.240 --> 0:15:39.440 say good news for your part. No one remembers the 0:15:39.480 --> 0:15:40.840 fact that you've been beat off at the point of 0:15:40.840 --> 0:15:47.680 attack everyone, because I still have nightmares. I have a 0:15:47.760 --> 0:15:50.520 question for you guys. Tonight, did we see the absences 0:15:50.520 --> 0:15:53.920 of Jordan Davis and a volunteer Maddox. Yeah, I mean 0:15:54.040 --> 0:15:56.520 especially Jordan Davis, you know, the big fella. If a 0:15:56.560 --> 0:16:00.320 team is gonna run, especially a team like Washington, you know, 0:16:00.360 --> 0:16:03.080 it's one thing when you have, you know, those speedbacks 0:16:03.120 --> 0:16:05.120 to like to get to the outside, but when you 0:16:05.200 --> 0:16:08.920 have two plowing runners like Washington has, you know they're 0:16:08.920 --> 0:16:11.600 gonna run between A, B and C gaps and that's 0:16:11.600 --> 0:16:15.760 what Jordan Davis makes a lot of his hey inside there. 0:16:15.800 --> 0:16:18.560 So yeah, I think anytime you get a big fellow 0:16:18.600 --> 0:16:22.400 like that who eats up blockers, he doesn't necessarily need 0:16:22.440 --> 0:16:24.720 to make the tackle, but it allows the other guys 0:16:25.120 --> 0:16:27.800 to make tackles around him. So you know, I'm not 0:16:27.840 --> 0:16:30.400 gonna use that as an excuense, but it's certainly it's 0:16:30.440 --> 0:16:32.800 part of an explanation at the big Fella is not 0:16:32.880 --> 0:16:35.520 out there. Yeah, Terry McLaren, he got targeted five times. 0:16:35.520 --> 0:16:37.480 A couple of them were in the slot on third down. 0:16:37.480 --> 0:16:39.560 And we talked in the kickoff show Ella about how 0:16:39.600 --> 0:16:42.080 good a Vante Maddox was in that Week three game 0:16:42.360 --> 0:16:44.840 down in Washington. He was so so good in that game. 0:16:45.000 --> 0:16:47.840 Helped lead to a bunch of coverage sacks of Carson Wentzon. 0:16:48.000 --> 0:16:50.120 So yeah, I think losing a Vante Maddox maybe it 0:16:50.160 --> 0:16:52.480 didn't hurt Grand Scope, but I think when you look at, 0:16:52.600 --> 0:16:54.800 especially on third down a couple of those plays, I'm 0:16:54.800 --> 0:16:56.600 sure you would have loved to have number twenty nine 0:16:56.600 --> 0:16:58.400 in there in the slot. All Right, we've been ask 0:16:58.480 --> 0:17:03.320 that question. Who we got? What do you think the 0:17:03.360 --> 0:17:07.120 Eagles should focus on moving forward? Like, Well, I think 0:17:07.119 --> 0:17:10.119 you get back to doing what's been successful for you 0:17:10.200 --> 0:17:12.760 all year. This team is eight or eighten one. Now 0:17:13.400 --> 0:17:16.040 it's their first loss, and you're not going to scrap 0:17:16.080 --> 0:17:18.560 everything you've done to help you get to eight. No, 0:17:18.920 --> 0:17:21.200 So now it's really more about going back and fine 0:17:21.240 --> 0:17:24.200 tuning things. You know. I do a lot of reflecting 0:17:24.400 --> 0:17:28.040 on the show because watching the games you get sort 0:17:28.040 --> 0:17:30.159 of those flashbacks. So when we lost to Pittsburgh in 0:17:30.200 --> 0:17:32.760 two thousand and four, it was arguably our worst game 0:17:32.760 --> 0:17:35.440 of the season. I mean, the defense we got Jerome 0:17:35.520 --> 0:17:39.160 Bettters ran through us on defense that day. And it 0:17:39.240 --> 0:17:41.600 wasn't that all of a sudden we became a different team. 0:17:41.720 --> 0:17:43.560 It's just that we weren't doing the things that we 0:17:43.600 --> 0:17:46.200 had done the prior seven weeks of the season that 0:17:46.320 --> 0:17:49.399 helped us to be successful. So I guarantee those players 0:17:49.400 --> 0:17:52.520 in that locker room they have an empty feeling in 0:17:52.520 --> 0:17:55.119 their stomach right now, because, first of all, they're prideful, 0:17:55.680 --> 0:17:57.920 and not in a bad way, meaning that they're prideful 0:17:57.960 --> 0:18:00.360 in the way that they detail their work. And so 0:18:00.880 --> 0:18:03.879 that wasn't dam out there on the field tonight. That 0:18:03.920 --> 0:18:06.800 doesn't exemplify what this Eagles football team has been about. 0:18:06.840 --> 0:18:09.199 And so they're not gonna be happy with what they 0:18:09.280 --> 0:18:12.479 put on display on national television. So I don't think 0:18:12.520 --> 0:18:15.640 you have to do a whole lot of of preaching 0:18:15.680 --> 0:18:19.120 and coaching. Turn on the film and you show show 0:18:19.160 --> 0:18:22.000 these guys what they look like prior to this game 0:18:22.359 --> 0:18:24.440 versus what they look like tonight, and that's all you'll 0:18:24.520 --> 0:18:26.600 need to do. I was gonna ask you from a 0:18:26.640 --> 0:18:29.200 player's standpoint. Obviously, everyone knows, like the film is the film, 0:18:29.200 --> 0:18:31.159 everyone knows what happened here on the field tonight. But 0:18:31.240 --> 0:18:33.480 what was the messaging from Andy Reid from Coach Reid 0:18:33.640 --> 0:18:35.560 after that? Was it more of a positive light or 0:18:35.640 --> 0:18:37.520 was it hey, like, you know, he kind of got 0:18:37.520 --> 0:18:40.399 in it and reamed you guys, Yeah, he got it 0:18:40.440 --> 0:18:42.640 to us because because here's the thing, it had been 0:18:42.680 --> 0:18:45.760 a couple of games prior to that loss that we 0:18:45.920 --> 0:18:48.240 kind of you know, we had to go to overtime 0:18:48.240 --> 0:18:51.720 to be Cleveland, and yeah, you know, we played in 0:18:51.800 --> 0:18:54.399 Chicago and that was like a six point game, and 0:18:54.440 --> 0:18:57.000 these are teams that they shouldn't have been close games. 0:18:57.000 --> 0:19:00.600