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Speaker 1: First Date follow Up powered by the Advocates Injury Attorneys

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Speaker 1: online at Advocateslaw dot com.

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Speaker 2: Rech is on the phone today for a first day

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Speaker 2: follow up and he's getting ghosted by a woman named Kylie.

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Speaker 2: So in a few minutes we'll call her and see

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Speaker 2: if she'll tell us why she's ghosting and maybe get

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Speaker 2: him a second date. But first, Zach, how long has

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Speaker 2: it been since you heard from Kylie?

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Speaker 3: Oh, it's been eleven days.

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Speaker 2: All right, we'll tell us a little bit about it.

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Speaker 2: How many times you try to reach out to her?

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Speaker 3: Probably sink four?

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Speaker 4: Now?

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Speaker 5: Oh, okay, when was the last time you hit her up?

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Speaker 3: It was, uh this morning?

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Speaker 5: Actually, okay, we're trying to understand.

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Speaker 1: Okay, it was like four text messages or phone calls.

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Speaker 6: I started off with just like a you know, like

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Speaker 6: a fund up text message the next day, you know,

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Speaker 6: thanking her for a fun night, and then the reply spend.

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Speaker 3: I waited a few days.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and then this morning I did a little See

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Speaker 6: now that I'm thinking about it, it sounds like I'm

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Speaker 6: totally a fault and I sounded weird, but I played

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Speaker 6: a little jazz riff on my harmonica as a voice

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Speaker 6: note and sent it to her this morning.

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Speaker 1: It sounds like you like her and that you're making

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Speaker 1: efforts to get a hold of her. So now we

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Speaker 1: just got to figure out why she's not into it.

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Speaker 2: Tell us about the day.

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Speaker 6: Sure, So we went to this rooftop jazz night, hence

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Speaker 6: my harmonica thing this sent this morning.

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Speaker 3: You know, jazz is kind of a.

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Speaker 6: Gamble, probably, but she told me she likes vibes, so

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Speaker 6: I felt like that seemed fitting, you know. Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 6: and we had a we had a great time. She

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Speaker 6: she completely dug it. Uh, I'm really into jazz, so

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Speaker 6: I enjoyed it in her company, and then we grabbed

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Speaker 6: some some tacos after it just was it sound like

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Speaker 6: a movie because we like sat on this curb and

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Speaker 6: we're talking to each other with these tacos in our hands,

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Speaker 6: and the moon was out. There's like hot sauce on

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Speaker 6: our fingers. And then she had, you know, she had

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Speaker 6: this this wild laugh.

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Speaker 3: It was just made me laugh.

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Speaker 6: Every time she locked it would make me laugh because

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Speaker 6: the way she laughed, and uh, I don't know, she

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Speaker 6: didn't the weird stuff like I am, like I collect

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Speaker 6: the old cereal boxes, vintage boxes.

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Speaker 3: I just think it's cool.

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Speaker 6: You know, some people collect like old matel toys and

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Speaker 6: or like lunch boxes.

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Speaker 3: I just don't happened to as a kid. For some reason,

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Speaker 3: I had I started.

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Speaker 6: A little collection, and then years later, like I had

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Speaker 6: these really cool old cereal boxes, you.

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Speaker 3: Know, which could be weird.

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Speaker 6: I'm obviously in the grown adult male and collect cereal boxes.

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Speaker 3: But she thought that was really cool.

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Speaker 6: She was like respect, you know, and she was asking

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Speaker 6: me about it, and I showed her pixres and I

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Speaker 6: was like, well, you know, she just made me feel

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Speaker 6: good when we kissed also, and it was this for

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Speaker 6: me at least, this adorable moment because we were both

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Speaker 6: kind of awkward, but not not in a bad way,

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Speaker 6: like it was a bad kiss, but just like we

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Speaker 6: were nervous and both kind of like trying not to

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Speaker 6: mess it up, you know, Like it wasn't lustful, it

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Speaker 6: was it was just like everything was like.

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Speaker 3: Sweet, and I felt like romantic.

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Speaker 1: You really like her, and you sound like a hopeless romantic.

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Speaker 1: Why do you think you're getting ghosted one?

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Speaker 6: I'm thinking maybe sometimes obviously women will love romance in

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Speaker 6: the long run, but sometimes at first it can be

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Speaker 6: a little bit of a turnoff. I'm not exactly a

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Speaker 6: metrosexual guy either. I kind of do like the three

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Speaker 2: Okay does she know this?

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Speaker 6: Yes, I mean we talked about it because she actually

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Speaker 6: mentioned her ex just briefly, about how he would like

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Speaker 6: moisture his elbows, and she she like likes it when

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Speaker 6: a man takes care of herself. And I was like,

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Speaker 6: I was like, oh, you know is She pointed out,

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Speaker 6: you know, I don't usually I don't use hair gel

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Speaker 6: or anything. I just kind of keep it all natural.

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Speaker 6: I don't work alone either, And I made some little

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Speaker 1: Scented Okay, I'm not sure. I'm not sure what that

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Speaker 1: smells like, but maybe that could be it. We'll find

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Speaker 1: out for you though.

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Speaker 2: We'll play a song come back, and then call her

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Speaker 2: and see if she'll tell us why she's ghosting you

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Speaker 2: and maybe get you a second date. Okay, all right,

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Speaker 2: so good, all right, we'll get your first day follow

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Speaker 2: up next. Right in the middle of today's first day

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Speaker 2: follow up, And if you're just joining us, Zach is

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Speaker 2: on the phone and he's getting ghosted by Kylie. So

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Speaker 2: we're about to call her and see if she'll tell

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Speaker 2: us why she's ghosting him and maybe get him a

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Speaker 2: second date. But before we do that, Zach, why don't

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Speaker 2: you break down your date for us one more time?

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Speaker 3: Sure went to a cool jazz place. It was the

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Speaker 3: vibe as when I thought was very romantic moments, had

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Speaker 6: A curb, talked about each other, laughed, felt comfortable, kissed

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Speaker 6: awkwardly but.

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Speaker 3: In a sweet way. And I've been trying to.

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Speaker 6: Reach out a few times with kind of romantic, sweet

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Speaker 3: Little too much. I guess okay, and I'm not your wife.

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Speaker 2: She ghost ready for us to call her.

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Speaker 3: Geez, okay, here we go.

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Speaker 2: Hello, Hi, I ma, I as speak to Kylie.

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Speaker 5: Please. Yeah, this is kind of Kylie.

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Speaker 2: How are you? This is the Jubil Show. It's a

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Speaker 2: radio show.

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Speaker 5: What's up, Kylie? My name is Nina.

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Speaker 2: Hi, I'm Victoria and my name's Jubel. How are you?

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Speaker 4: Oh? I actually like listen to you guys sometimes.

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Speaker 2: Oh cool, I'm sweet. Well, guess what, Kylie? We got

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Speaker 2: an email about you from somebody?

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Speaker 4: An email.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. We do a segment on the show called the

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Speaker 2: First Day follow Up. That's where if you go on

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Speaker 2: a date with somebody and you end up ghosting them,

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Speaker 2: they can email us to get you on the phone

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Speaker 2: and ask why you're ghosting. And we got to email

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Speaker 2: about you from somebody.

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Speaker 5: Oh do you know who that could be?

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Speaker 4: I think I know it's Zach, isn't it?

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Speaker 2: Yes, it is Zach. He said, he'll actually reached out

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Speaker 2: to you today.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I know, I know. Beenn't getting the messages, okay.

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Speaker 5: And you're not responding to them.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I don't.

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Speaker 4: I don't want to be an act. But yeah, like

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Speaker 4: I ghosted him. I'm not like trying to hide that

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Speaker 2: Can you tell us why you're ghosting him?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? So we went out and we went to like

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Speaker 4: and everything was going great. He was like charming and

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Speaker 4: you know, funny and very sweet too. And then like

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Speaker 4: when we were like eating the tacos, we're talking and

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Speaker 4: then he grabs like a napkin and starts like drawing,

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Speaker 4: and I'm like, yeah, out of nowhere, you know, I think, oh,

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Speaker 4: and you know, I don't know, but you know, that

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Speaker 7: The thing is when I looked at the drawing, oh

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Speaker 7: like a little bit of artist. He has like all

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Speaker 4: Chin, and I, you know, I don't want to. I

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Speaker 4: Like you're just a good person and that's what matters.

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Speaker 4: I'm like, who you are you trying to say that

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Speaker 1: Drew a melted picture of you. You think he called

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 8: No, because when I made fun of the drawing. He

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Speaker 2: Because he's not good at drawing, or.

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Speaker 4: You're just saying if I think, like attraction is a

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Speaker 3: Picture that I that I drew.

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Speaker 6: I was just trying to be I guess in my

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Speaker 3: It's like I draw abstract art all the time. I

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Speaker 3: was trying to say that that I like you for

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Speaker 1: Are you attracted to Kylie Zach thousand percent? Okay, okay,

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Speaker 1: sounds like that was her problem.

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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, that is crazy. I had no idea

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Speaker 4: I was trying to, Oh, well, do you think I'm

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Speaker 4: like an emotional person, like a tortured person like that,

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Speaker 4: I don't need a man to save me.

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Speaker 6: Like, look, if you saw some of the things that

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Speaker 3: This was on a napkin. It was terrible, bad choice.

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Speaker 6: I think you're beautiful despite all the emotional bluggage.

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Speaker 4: Like that is not helping things at all. Now you're

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Speaker 6: Like no, I'm not saying that we're all hurt little

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Speaker 6: duck wings. I just want to take your wings and

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Speaker 6: mend them. Oh, Kylie, I'm trying to say, as I

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Speaker 6: see all of your beauty, and I'm not saying that

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Speaker 6: I think you're emotionally damaged. I'm just saying, we all

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Speaker 6: matter what else comes with it, your beauty outshines everything.

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Speaker 6: Just because I think you're a beautiful person on the

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Speaker 6: the outside. I think you're gorgeous. I want you inside

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Speaker 6: and out.

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Speaker 2: Hey, in that case, Kylie, would you like another day

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Speaker 2: with Zach? Will pay for it?

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Speaker 4: I mean, I think like understanding and how kind of cute.

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Speaker 4: But he talked a little two months, you know, and

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Speaker 4: the way he explains things is a little unique. But

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Speaker 4: like now, I think I understand that, you know, if

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Speaker 4: he's nervous and and it's kind of cute.

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Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, it sounds like he really likes you.

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Speaker 5: So I mean, I think that's cute.

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Speaker 4: Yes, I I.

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Speaker 3: Say, I think, all right, fantastic. I actually already have

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Speaker 3: a spot that I'm thinking about.

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Speaker 6: So thank you, Thank you, Kylie. And I promise if

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Speaker 6: I draw you again, I'm gonna go for real. I

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Speaker 6: think this is the beginning of your healing journey, Kylie,

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Speaker 6: and I'm I'm glad to walk the path with you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, congratulations.

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Speaker 5: Jubile's first date follow up