1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:04,120 Speaker 1: I am all in again. 2 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:17,319 Speaker 2: Oh that's just too m hi. 3 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:22,320 Speaker 3: I am all in again with Scott Patterson and iHeartRadio Podcast. 4 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 1: Hey Everybody. Scott Patterson Island Podcast, one of eleven productions 5 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 1: iHeart Media Radio, iHeart Podcast. We have Here comes the 6 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:37,840 Speaker 1: sun SLN Recap Season three, episode twenty one, Big Episode, 7 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:41,839 Speaker 1: Big Episode, and we have Asha Davis here. She's an 8 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:45,519 Speaker 1: actress who was in two Gilmour episodes of Susan, one 9 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:47,839 Speaker 1: of Rory's New Yale French. She also is known for 10 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:50,600 Speaker 1: work on Friday Night Lights, South and Nowhere, Drunk History, 11 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 1: Gray's Anatomy, and the upcoming Higher Love. Welcome, Asha Davis. 12 00:00:56,880 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 1: Nice to see you. How are you. 13 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 2: Thank you so much. I'm great. I'm so excited to 14 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 2: be here. 15 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:06,039 Speaker 3: It's just a pleasure to be here talking about one 16 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 3: of my favorite series. 17 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:09,840 Speaker 1: So yeah, we're glad to have you, Glad to have you. 18 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 1: All right, here's the synopsis. Rory is stressing out about 19 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 1: the end of the year. She also is named Valde 20 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 1: Victorian Jess visits his dad the Understatement of the Year, 21 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 1: visits his dad and quotes in Venice, California, and asked 22 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 1: to crash for a while. Emily and Lurla continue their 23 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:34,119 Speaker 1: feud with No Dinner Planned Insight, No Dinners Planned Insight. 24 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 1: Directed by Amy Sherman Palladino, Written by Amy Sherman Palladino. 25 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:44,199 Speaker 1: It's a lot of Palladino here coming at you. Rory 26 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 1: is studying for finals. She's been up for hours making 27 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 1: lists of things and to do before graduation. Asha, do 28 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 1: you think Rory deserves a little more closure than this 29 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 1: when how she finds out about that Jess is gone? 30 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 1: And I know we're we're going to jump around a 31 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 1: little bit, and this jumps in an episode, but what 32 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 1: about have there been a situation like this? And how 33 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:08,080 Speaker 1: do you feel about how Rory reacts? 34 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, Like, you know, it's so funny because these days 35 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:15,240 Speaker 3: I'm more in tuned with like the motherhood part of it, 36 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:17,360 Speaker 3: like I used to be about the like the Rory, 37 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 3: Like I identified with her, now identifying like as a parent. 38 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 3: And when I see my son, who's a teen right 39 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 3: now going through a lot, I. 40 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 2: Don't want to really dump more on top of like. 41 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 3: All the finals and the things that he's got going on. 42 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 3: So I could kind of understand why she was like, oh, 43 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:37,640 Speaker 3: when is going to be the perfect time to tell 44 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 3: her you know that this happened. So, you know, we 45 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 3: do our best, but we're not always great as parents. 46 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 3: I think she should have like really sat her down. 47 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 3: It should have been like an oopsie at a stop light, 48 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 3: you know. 49 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:54,079 Speaker 2: And then I just love how they like go through 50 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:56,639 Speaker 2: the red and they see the motorcycle. 51 00:02:56,040 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 3: Cop just cover I have, you know, But yeah, I 52 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 3: kinda she deserved better. But I also understand, like as 53 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 3: a parent, how things can just be like. 54 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 2: Oh, this is how it happened. 55 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:09,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, all right. 56 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 1: Luke shows up trying to get lorealized attention in the 57 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 1: window the kitchen. He confesses to LAURELZ that Jess is 58 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 1: gone and he feels like he failed. Poor guy, poor guy. 59 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 1: He turns away. He has to gather himself, right, he 60 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 1: turns poor guy's so he's so stressed. Emily calls Rory, 61 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 1: decides to go visitor help decide what to wear for graduation. 62 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 1: She goes after school and meets Selene. 63 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 2: What a character. 64 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 1: What a character? Right? Only out of the brain of 65 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 1: Amy Sherman Palladino could such a character spring? All right, 66 00:03:56,280 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 1: let's get to Jess going to Venice, California, getting off 67 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 1: the bus, kind of an iconic shot of him on 68 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 1: the beach, kind of in the front of that sand 69 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 1: cast on those kids throwing sand in his feet to 70 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 1: get him to move with the Beach Boys song. And 71 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 1: he's just at the end of the earth and it 72 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:20,600 Speaker 1: doesn't feel like a new beginning. It feels like I'm 73 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 1: even more lost than I have ever been. Perfectly framed, 74 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 1: no dialogue scene, dreaming at us. What did you think 75 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:35,719 Speaker 1: about all this? I found this Asha to be extraordinarily 76 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 1: uncomfortable to watch, and I hated Jimmy. I just hated him. Yeah, 77 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:49,039 Speaker 1: I was like you that he can't even say yeah, 78 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:51,920 Speaker 1: how do you say no to your own kid just 79 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 1: to crap off to you know? It was just so lame. 80 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 4: What did you think? 81 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 1: Did you have this? I had this visceral reaction. What 82 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 1: about you? 83 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, especially like I have to clear it with Sasha. 84 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:08,599 Speaker 3: And Sasha is taking in strays left and right, right, right, 85 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 3: dogs everywhere, but can't let his own son crash on 86 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 3: the couch figure out his life. You know, he's not 87 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 3: asking for a lot. He wasn't there for him in 88 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:21,360 Speaker 3: the first place, Like, can you be there for him? 89 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 2: Now? He's like, I'm just not the dead type. It's like, 90 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 2: come on, dude, and. 91 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 1: I know they're trying to launch a pilot episode out 92 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 1: of this. How on earth are you launching a pilot 93 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 1: episode from this with such a horrible character exactly. I mean, 94 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 1: no redeeming value coming out of this guy. There's no 95 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 1: redemption possible here for how he behaves toward his own son. 96 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 1: It's like, too far, it's too too far gone here this. 97 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 1: I just like, God, I ain't watching that pilot. I 98 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:57,480 Speaker 1: hate that guy, and I'm not interested to see if 99 00:05:57,520 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 1: he comes around. I mean, what could come of that? 100 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 1: Sash is pretty cool, right, She's she's he's like, you know, 101 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 1: she's got the dogs and the cats, and. 102 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 2: She's she's daughter in the cupboard. 103 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 1: The daughter in the cupboard reading the books and pretty 104 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 1: great library filled with classic books and records and albums. 105 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:25,039 Speaker 1: It's so great, great little beach shack, which like is 106 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:35,479 Speaker 1: probably worth five million dollars right now. Yeah, I mean, 107 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:40,280 Speaker 1: it's just you know, some great dialogue. But gosh, it 108 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 1: was those scenes were so grating to me. It's the 109 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 1: only you know, I really I mean talk about making 110 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 1: the audience feel horrible about Jess's plight. Yeah, I mean 111 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:55,279 Speaker 1: that's really where it comes home. And it's just like 112 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:57,920 Speaker 1: they drive it home like this kid has lost, he's 113 00:06:57,920 --> 00:07:01,840 Speaker 1: got nothing. His mom's a nut, dad's an ahle. 114 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:07,720 Speaker 3: Wow, Oh he has this his leather jacket's super cool, right, 115 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:08,839 Speaker 3: their jacket and. 116 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 1: A hoodie and a hoodie and it's ninety degrees, so 117 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 1: he is cool. You got to be super cool to 118 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 1: pull that off. I don't say I'm sweat, not a bit, 119 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 1: not until that last scene like Bagg and his dad 120 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 1: to let him broke. If that doesn't break your heart, 121 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 1: you're battery powered, right all right? So I think we've 122 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 1: discussed how we feel about that as a potential pilot. 123 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 2: That was rough. 124 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 3: I see what they were trying to do there with 125 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 3: Dad and the you know, like the kind of polar 126 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 3: of the you know, the the gilmourris. 127 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 1: But firsts, first attritions really important. I don't know how 128 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 1: you could like and rob ASTs is one of the 129 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 1: more likable acts you could ever find. 130 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 5: He's such a nice guy and he's you know, but Jesus, he's. 131 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 3: Just like tormented, like what am I gonna do? My 132 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 3: kid could possibly be on the beach all night. 133 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 2: And I don't know, can I do it. 134 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 1: You know, it's like, oh man, regardless, it's just por chess, 135 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:33,439 Speaker 1: all right, Lorele Paris, Emily Lorelei gets the Yale letter. 136 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 1: Financial aid is rejected because of the seventy five thousand 137 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:42,199 Speaker 1: dollars check she cashed and then gave to her mom 138 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:48,480 Speaker 1: to pay for the chiltern. They don't care at Yale. 139 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 1: You gotta pay full freight now at Yale, which I 140 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 1: guess at that time it was probably what sixty sixty 141 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:55,600 Speaker 1: seventy thousand a year. 142 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 2: That's a plot school in La. 143 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:03,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, right, yeah, another complication here. 144 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:10,320 Speaker 3: Yeah oops, oops yeah again, Like as a parent, I 145 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:11,440 Speaker 3: totally know what that's like. 146 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:13,959 Speaker 2: I've filled out those financial aid forms. 147 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:16,360 Speaker 3: I wanted my kid to go, you know, to their 148 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 3: dream schools and and stuff like that, and that. 149 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 2: Is you know a single mom like. 150 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 1: Rough, yeah, all right, Larela has a table with Paris 151 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 1: for grad the grad night cruise. Okay, really a prestigious 152 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:39,560 Speaker 1: private school having a cruise a cruise? Is that what 153 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:43,200 Speaker 1: private schools do? Don't They just rent out the country 154 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 1: club and. 155 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 3: Throw exactly, they charge all the parents like an extra 156 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:52,200 Speaker 3: three four hundred dollars and then they set up their 157 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:54,960 Speaker 3: own thing, and then they ask for more money. 158 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 2: You know, right at the pit, you don't go to 159 00:09:57,400 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 2: a cruise. 160 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 1: A cruise, that's the only kind of like it seems 161 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 1: a little. 162 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 3: I love Paris though, and her whole That little awkward 163 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:08,960 Speaker 3: hug at the end was just. 164 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 1: Right right, all right. And then Laura I comes over 165 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:16,079 Speaker 1: to Emily and Richards to pick Rory up. Emily says 166 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 1: she has plans, but it was a lie, and Laura 167 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 1: I gets upset and storms off. Rory comes back inside 168 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 1: and tells Emily, I think you're being really stupid. 169 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:27,840 Speaker 2: I love that. 170 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:31,960 Speaker 1: That's like dropping a bomb right on Grandma. Yeah, here's 171 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 1: a grenade, Grandma, hold it for me, and storms out. 172 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:45,679 Speaker 1: Hey everybody, look, I just want to let you know 173 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 1: if you want tickets to the Midnight Highway Tour. Yes, 174 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 1: the band and I are going out on tour pretty soon. 175 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 1: Go to please dot co Please dot co P L 176 00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:02,440 Speaker 1: E A S E CO for tickets. Okay, that's all 177 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 1: you need to know. And see out there, all right. 178 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:10,680 Speaker 1: Rory is again right here we go, stuck in the 179 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 1: middle between Laurel I and Emily, her mother and her grandmother, 180 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 1: and she finally tells Emily off with a simple sentence. 181 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 1: You think this grudge between between Emily and Laurela I 182 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 1: should last this long. 183 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:25,959 Speaker 2: It's a lot. 184 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:29,080 Speaker 3: It's a lot, I mean, and you know the fact 185 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:31,839 Speaker 3: that she loves her Emily loves her granddaughter so much. 186 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 3: You know, it's like you kind of take the l there, 187 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 3: like you're like, you know what, I just I don't 188 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:39,280 Speaker 3: want her to have to deal with this back and 189 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 3: forth and this you know, unhappiness. She's already going through 190 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:46,720 Speaker 3: a lot finals college, Like, let's just squash the beef. 191 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:49,320 Speaker 3: Let's have a nice dinner. Let's you know what I mean. 192 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:52,200 Speaker 2: Mm hmmm hmm to each their own. 193 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 3: Even Grandpa was pretty funny when he walked in and 194 00:11:55,840 --> 00:12:00,079 Speaker 3: he was like just totally like you know, unearthed a 195 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 3: whole can of worms there, Like you know, he's like, yeah, 196 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 3: come out, we have no plans. 197 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 2: Was cracking up, like such a great just a great moment. 198 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:12,680 Speaker 3: You know, It's like I knew it, you know, lord, Lies, 199 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 3: I knew it, knew this is all like you just 200 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 3: didn't want to hang. 201 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 1: Out with me. Have you seen all the episodes? Have 202 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 1: you watched a whole seven seasons? 203 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 2: No? No, not all. I've come and I've come and gone. 204 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 3: But I could watch them again because just watching it yesterday, 205 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, this is like exactly like I wanted 206 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 3: to rewatch and like really get like a you know, 207 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 3: a feel for it again. And I was like, yeah, 208 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 3: I really love this. I need to return to it. 209 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:40,199 Speaker 3: And it's something great that you could watch with your kids, 210 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 3: you know what I mean? 211 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:44,079 Speaker 2: And like, right, and that's rare these days. 212 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:46,680 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, it is rare. 213 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 3: Uh. 214 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:52,199 Speaker 1: Let's talk a little bit about you. Okay, you played 215 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:54,560 Speaker 1: one of Rory's Yale friends when she first moved in. 216 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:56,200 Speaker 1: Tell us. How did you get the role? 217 00:12:56,760 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 2: Oh, man, auditions. 218 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 3: I was hitting auditions hard by then, and I really 219 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 3: love the writing. 220 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:06,439 Speaker 2: It's just so good. 221 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 3: Like usually when you see a full monologue you just panic, right, 222 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 3: You're like, oh, this is. 223 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 2: Gonna be rough. 224 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 3: But because the writing is so natural and so good, 225 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 3: it just flows and it's not hard to memorize because 226 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 3: it makes sense. Like to me, it even sounds like 227 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 3: when people are kind of rik it, like if you 228 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 3: have like an improvisational actor and they're just kind of 229 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:34,559 Speaker 3: speaking very naturally themselves. That's how I felt about the 230 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 3: language and the focus of. 231 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:39,080 Speaker 2: That I did. 232 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:40,720 Speaker 3: I'm trying to think like, yeah, it was just the 233 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:47,559 Speaker 3: typical you know, audition callback and then got that I 234 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 3: think it was a monologue role. 235 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:53,959 Speaker 1: Yeah, had you seen the show previously before the audition? Yeah, 236 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 1: so you were a fan of the show, you're aware 237 00:13:55,679 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 1: of it, definitely. So this was in this season three, 238 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 1: so by that time people knew about the show. Oh yeah, 239 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:08,280 Speaker 1: and we're getting you know, it was like the obsession 240 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:11,080 Speaker 1: was beginning right at that stage. 241 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:11,840 Speaker 2: Yeah. 242 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:16,560 Speaker 1: Do you recall at the time in your judgment and 243 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 1: those around you, did they did they rate this show 244 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 1: very highly? Did they say this is a different type 245 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 1: of show, this is a very special show. 246 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:27,880 Speaker 3: Yes, absolutely, people thought, you know, I still think it's 247 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 3: very special. I've even done certain things where they'll mention 248 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 3: that as one of my credits, like that's the one 249 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 3: that stands out, you know what I mean. That makes 250 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 3: a difference when you're an actor, Like sometimes they'll be like, well, 251 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 3: I don't know what that is, but they're like, she's 252 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:44,240 Speaker 3: from and I did like literally two episodes, two scenes. 253 00:14:44,280 --> 00:14:46,400 Speaker 3: I think they were like co star like maybe you know, 254 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 3: and to still be that says a lot about a show, 255 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 3: you know, that it keeps it standing. It and even raises, 256 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 3: like it gets even more accolades, Like people recognize it 257 00:14:56,760 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 3: even after it's not as you know, like in the 258 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:02,840 Speaker 3: circuit right away, you know, and so later they're still 259 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 3: thinking about it. I even did, like I do these fundraisers, 260 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 3: and it's basically raising kids. Uh you know, like they 261 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 3: have these kids writing it's called right girl, and they 262 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 3: write these stories and then we as actors just act 263 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 3: them out really quickly so they can just show the 264 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 3: kids like what they you know, like that they can 265 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:25,680 Speaker 3: write that it's possible, and we just make that. And 266 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 3: Kiko was in there as well, and the crowd just 267 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:33,440 Speaker 3: went crazy over her and just like, yeah, it's just 268 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 3: such a like it just has so many accolades. It 269 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:38,000 Speaker 3: just lives on. 270 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, those two magic words, right, Gilmore Girls snap their 271 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 1: head around? Is that Gilmore Girls actress? The whole airport 272 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 1: snaps their head around? 273 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 2: You Amazing after all these years, it really is. 274 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:56,120 Speaker 1: So what do you remember most from your time on set? 275 00:15:56,600 --> 00:16:00,480 Speaker 3: I just remember like just feeling very professional, just being 276 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 3: like this is it. This is the reason I came 277 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:07,160 Speaker 3: out to Hollywood. This is my dream personified like this. 278 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:10,120 Speaker 3: It was just such a you know, from wardrobe I 279 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 3: love the way they dressed me. I thought it was 280 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 3: really cool and sometimes you're just like uncomfortable. 281 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:18,200 Speaker 2: I wasn't they let me wear my natural hair. 282 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 3: I thought that was amazing and I just I it 283 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 3: was just like, you know, just just felt right, like 284 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 3: I just felt so cool and and it was quick, 285 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 3: you know, they shot it and we were out. 286 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 2: It wasn't like a lot of like, well, we don't 287 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 2: know where this is going and did it. 288 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 3: It was just like so like the best word I 289 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 3: can think of is very professional, you know, right on time. 290 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 1: Did you feel like you'd hit the big time? 291 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 4: Oh? 292 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 3: Man, boy did I ever? I still do. I still 293 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 3: feel that, you know what I mean. I'm like, yeah, yeah, 294 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 3: I was on. People will be like, what did you want? 295 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 2: Gilmore girls? Or I'm like you remember that, you know. 296 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 3: I just feel so excited, like it'll always be something 297 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 3: wonderful that happened too. 298 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 1: You know. When it really hit me. It didn't hit 299 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 1: me until we did the Netflix episodes in twenty sixteen. 300 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 2: Oh no way. 301 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:11,919 Speaker 1: And we'd all been away for nine years, and I 302 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:16,240 Speaker 1: remember walking on one of the sound stages on the 303 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:23,919 Speaker 1: first day and the equipment, the cameras, the amount of 304 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 1: equipment that was piled into that sound stage and surrounding 305 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 1: Lorelized House, which was an indoor set if they were 306 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 1: shooting the interiors. 307 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:35,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, And I. 308 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 1: Went, oh, wow, this feels like a big budget feature film. 309 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 1: Doesn't feel like a TV show. And I thought, boy, 310 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:50,679 Speaker 1: this show is this big. And that's when it hit me. 311 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:53,080 Speaker 1: It hit me in twenty sixteen. When I was doing it, 312 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 1: I was just so used to that. It was like normal, yeah, 313 00:17:57,240 --> 00:17:59,719 Speaker 1: because I'd been on some other like I'd been on Seinfeld, 314 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:03,480 Speaker 1: Will and Grace and that was that was like they 315 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:07,800 Speaker 1: set the bar very high and and Gilmore's Gilmore was 316 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:10,560 Speaker 1: that so oh yeah, this is this is how professional 317 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 1: set is. But yeah, that really just took me aback 318 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:26,960 Speaker 1: a little bit. What was it like working with Alexis. 319 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 2: She's so great her blue eyes. I was just like, 320 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 2: oh my gosh. 321 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:35,479 Speaker 3: It's just mesmerizing, you know, and she's just professional again 322 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:38,800 Speaker 3: but still sweet, like you still get that you know 323 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:41,639 Speaker 3: that sweet little you know when you when you're working 324 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:43,600 Speaker 3: a lot of times it's like there's so much going on, 325 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:45,399 Speaker 3: like you can't be like ha ha, you know, like 326 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:48,399 Speaker 3: super like making a lot of noise because it's you know, 327 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:51,960 Speaker 3: there's people thinking and things are happening, but you can 328 00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:55,679 Speaker 3: sometimes with another actor, you can just feel that energy, 329 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:58,120 Speaker 3: even if it's like a two words that they say 330 00:18:58,160 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 3: to you, you're just like, you know what, a sweetheart 331 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 3: and yeah, I always got good vibes from her, always, 332 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:06,920 Speaker 3: always Yeah. 333 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 1: So you went on to have a recurring role on 334 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 1: Friday Night Lights. How did this Gilmore role prepare you for? That? 335 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 2: Very very great question. 336 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 3: So, because I had done that type of model, my 337 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:27,400 Speaker 3: first scene on Friday Night Lights was a big monologue 338 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:31,359 Speaker 3: and I remember being in the audition room and there 339 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:34,720 Speaker 3: was a ton of girls there and I. 340 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:36,600 Speaker 2: Was like, nope, this is this is mine. 341 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:39,440 Speaker 3: Like this sorry, I'm you know, it's great that you 342 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 3: guys are here, but this is mine. 343 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 2: It was a huge monologue. 344 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 3: I had done that on Gilmore Girls, with cameras, with directors, 345 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 3: with everyone in. 346 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 2: My face and just sticking with it. 347 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 3: So having that professional experience, especially with such a large 348 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:58,760 Speaker 3: amount of dialogue, it wasn't just like a hey, it. 349 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:00,640 Speaker 2: Was just like it was just what on and on? 350 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:05,400 Speaker 3: I felt very confident about it, and I, you know, 351 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 3: I when I saw Friday Night Lights, I came in 352 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 3: like a couple episodes later, and I remember seeing like 353 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 3: the picture on the bus of Friday Night Lights, and 354 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:18,480 Speaker 3: I was like, I would love to do a show 355 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 3: like that. And I didn't contact my manager or find 356 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:24,679 Speaker 3: out who the casting person was. I just kind of 357 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 3: left it at that, and then it just kind of happened. 358 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:31,200 Speaker 3: And I think Gilmore Girls doing that type of stuff 359 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:34,160 Speaker 3: gave me the confidence to know that what's what's meant 360 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 3: for me is meant for me, and it's going to 361 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:38,159 Speaker 3: happen the way you know it's supposed to happen, and 362 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:40,600 Speaker 3: I don't have to push. I don't have to you know, 363 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:43,119 Speaker 3: that's just how how life is supposed to be. 364 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:46,560 Speaker 1: So right, and you worked on other shows, you are 365 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 1: Gray's Anatomy, South and Nowhere Drunk History. How does it 366 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 1: compare to Gilmore oh Man? 367 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 2: Gilmore was more like, I don't. 368 00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:59,119 Speaker 3: I just want to say cerebral, like especially if I 369 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 3: want to compare it to My Friday, my Drunk History, 370 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:04,200 Speaker 3: if I want to compare Gilmore Girls to my Drunk 371 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:08,919 Speaker 3: History days, Like drunk History is just so silly, you know. 372 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:10,880 Speaker 2: They would I would. 373 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 3: Play a wolf one day, and then I'm an old 374 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:15,879 Speaker 3: man and then I'm, you know, a starlet, Like I 375 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:18,120 Speaker 3: would just get to play all these crazy characters every 376 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 3: day and we had a celebrity. 377 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:22,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was an amazing a. 378 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:24,959 Speaker 3: Lot of fun and we had a different huge celebrity 379 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 3: every single day. But because I had that experience on Gilmour, 380 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:33,359 Speaker 3: all those you know, like being around celebrities, still holding 381 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:35,880 Speaker 3: my own, not getting in the way, not being over 382 00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:38,240 Speaker 3: like oh my god, this is so and so you know, 383 00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 3: having that experience really like that makes you a great ensemble, 384 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:48,800 Speaker 3: you know, person because you don't get so flushed and 385 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:53,679 Speaker 3: having that professional background was awesome. I just I loved 386 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:56,200 Speaker 3: my experience so much. I remember people those are the 387 00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:58,199 Speaker 3: that's the show where like people will call you and 388 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:00,439 Speaker 3: be like I saw you, I saw you on this 389 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 3: And that's the best. Right when you get a text 390 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:05,439 Speaker 3: from family or friends or a phone call and they're like, 391 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:08,359 Speaker 3: we saw you on Gilmourt Girls, or even to this day, 392 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:13,119 Speaker 3: they'll like screenshot you know, my scene and then you know, 393 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:14,320 Speaker 3: text it to me and like. 394 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:18,480 Speaker 2: Just saw you. And that's just the best feeling, you know. 395 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:21,120 Speaker 1: I got a little starstruck. This weekend. I was at 396 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:25,480 Speaker 1: a convention in Richmond, Virginia, Galaxy con and so I'm 397 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:27,879 Speaker 1: in the green room, right, and those the Galaxy con 398 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:29,200 Speaker 1: does it. 399 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:31,120 Speaker 4: They do big shows, right. 400 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:33,919 Speaker 1: So the green room is huge, and there's tons of 401 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:36,080 Speaker 1: tables and there's tons of food, and there's tons of 402 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 1: space for everybody to just sort of relax and get 403 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:45,639 Speaker 1: away and distress a little bit. And calm Meanie was there. 404 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:49,680 Speaker 1: And that's not the type of guy you see at 405 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:53,439 Speaker 1: a con. It's a lot of TV actors, wonderful actors 406 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:55,480 Speaker 1: in their own right, but you know these these sort 407 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 1: of big time film actors, you know you'll see them 408 00:22:58,359 --> 00:22:59,360 Speaker 1: once in a while, right. 409 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. 410 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:03,119 Speaker 1: There he was just sitting at a table by himself. 411 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 1: And I don't get starstruck, but when I saw that guy, 412 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 1: I was like, wow, layer Cake, Matthew Vaughan, Daniel Craig, 413 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:16,719 Speaker 1: this guy was brilliant in this movie. 414 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:18,040 Speaker 4: Wow over. 415 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 1: So I go over to him and I said, mister Meanie, 416 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 1: I just wanted to say hello, my name is loved 417 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:30,760 Speaker 1: layer Cake. I love what you do in front of 418 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:33,639 Speaker 1: a camera and you inspire the heck out of me, 419 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 1: So just I'll leave you alone now, and he goes, no, no, 420 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:43,159 Speaker 1: sit down. So he struck up this kind of fast 421 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:47,760 Speaker 1: friendship and uh, I don't know, it's just it's that's 422 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:49,520 Speaker 1: how I either stay away from them. 423 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:52,600 Speaker 2: I was gonna ask you, yeah, because. 424 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 1: You can tell like they don't you know. And there 425 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 1: have been other people, like you know, big name people 426 00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 1: at these CONTs and they don't want to be approached 427 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:04,439 Speaker 1: and you can just tell. But he just seemed like 428 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:08,639 Speaker 1: such a regular guy, right, It's the best anyway. Listen, 429 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:12,320 Speaker 1: check out ash is Higher Love. It's our upcoming project. 430 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:15,640 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for your time, but please come back, 431 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 1: please please please, and we'll take We'll get a little 432 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:21,159 Speaker 1: more time. And it's my schedule is just so jammed. 433 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 2: Well I love it. I love that for you. 434 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:27,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, I kind of need a break, but I had 435 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:30,680 Speaker 1: a big break earlier in the year and now I'm 436 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:32,720 Speaker 1: not going to get one until next year. 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