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Speaker 1: It really is me, Rumshooter Lem it doesn't sound like

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Speaker 1: the Today. I've lost my voice. So I have been

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Speaker 1: talking working round the clock to sell this book. The

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Speaker 1: Elvis Durant and thank you. I know there's a huge

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Speaker 1: number fifty four today on Amazon's charts, so it's really important.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you, thank you, and enjoying us to

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Speaker 1: help Todave. My voice completely gives out. We know he

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Speaker 1: can talk. It's our friend Cory Andrew.

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Speaker 2: Hello, Oh hey baby, I'm here and I will pick

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Speaker 2: up the slack if you get tark Okay whatever, that.

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Speaker 1: Can just not beg you. Okay, let's jump in. What

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Speaker 1: time is it, my friends? It is time so Savannah's interview.

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Speaker 1: It's today, it was yesterday. It's a two parter on

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Speaker 1: the Today Show. Just heartbreaking. I can't believe she actually

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Speaker 1: managed to do this if my mom was missing, I'm

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Speaker 1: of it that broke my heart is when she was asked,

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Speaker 1: And Savannah said yes, and I'm so sorry, mommy, I'm

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Speaker 1: so sorry. She was crying. She also gave some new

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Speaker 1: If police have told her, keeping your mom's name in

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Speaker 1: But it's just it was so hard to watch. I

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it did not seem exploitive, So I

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Speaker 2: maybe the police told her or the law told her, Yes,

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Speaker 2: let's keep the story going so the headlines don't get

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Speaker 2: tell you I actually unfriended a guy yesterday on Facebook

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Speaker 1: Nancy Grace impersonally. If I can, I can't. He's so

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Speaker 1: it's it's a sign going on Let's get to a pole.

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Speaker 1: Question of the day. Savannah did a heart breaking, a

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