1 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:23,280 Speaker 1: Ah. This has been requested by none other than Mandy herself. Hey, hey, 2 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:26,600 Speaker 1: we're back. We're back. We're back, We're back, We're brown, 3 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 1: We're back, and we're ambitions. Welcome to Brown Ambition, y'all. 4 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:39,600 Speaker 2: It's like the title sets Brown Ambition, check and check. Well, 5 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 2: how are you? How is your week going? 6 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 1: It's going good. The weather has finally broken, I'm hoping, 7 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:50,239 Speaker 1: and it's been nice. I don't know, Like at night, 8 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:52,280 Speaker 1: I'm always like do I turn on the heat still 9 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:54,960 Speaker 1: because I always wake up freezing, But during the day 10 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 1: it's really warm. So I'm just excited because I'm just 11 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 1: looking forward to like a night spring summer. 12 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:05,319 Speaker 2: I know, today I wore sandals and a sun dress. 13 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:07,480 Speaker 2: It was like, it's like the good weather followed me 14 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 2: home from Savannah. 15 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:11,680 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, it was that kind of weather. And it 16 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 1: was freaky because I was like, wait, do I trust 17 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 1: it or is it like at three o'clock gonna turn ugly? 18 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:17,680 Speaker 2: You know, because New York is moody. 19 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's very sidebar. I had such good sushi for 20 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 1: lunch today. I don't it's so random, but like I 21 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 1: just had a flashback. I was like, oh, that was 22 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 1: so good. 23 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 2: I have food. I too have food flashbacks. I respect that. 24 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 2: I know how that feels. 25 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 1: Like. 26 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 2: I'm still thinking about this dinner I had at this 27 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 2: Cuban restaurant and Hoboken, like maybe six weeks ago. I'm like, 28 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 2: damn that sea gass was good. 29 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 1: That's like when we had our brown ambision of one 30 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 1: year anniversary and we had it at popa Oof food. 31 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 1: Oh sidebar. Today is my anniversary. 32 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 2: So many sidebars and I forgot. 33 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 1: So Superman came into the room meanwhile, it's like four, 34 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 1: and I'm like laid down the bed like He's like, hey, 35 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 1: somebody forgot a special day. I'm like, I'm thinking my head, okay, 36 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 1: his birthday is August heard and I'm looking at him. 37 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 1: What is he talking about? Then he started singing, do 38 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 1: you know what to days? I was like, advised me. 39 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:15,800 Speaker 1: He was like, you forgot? 40 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 2: Do you keep celebrating it after you get engaged because 41 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 2: we're gonna stop? 42 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, because I'm like, it doesn't really. I mean, meanwhile, 43 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 1: how we came up with it with so whack? Because 44 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 1: I remember we were dating and you know, I kind 45 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 1: of was like, so, you know, what are we doing? 46 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 1: You know, I'm looking for something more serious, and he 47 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 1: was like, oh, you know, you know, I am too. 48 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:40,960 Speaker 1: But you know, at the time we were both kind 49 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:43,800 Speaker 1: of like dating, not just each other, but mostly just 50 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 1: each other. He was like, well, can you give me 51 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 1: to April eleventh to clean up my mess? And I 52 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:54,799 Speaker 1: was like, so, now that's so, I'm like, forgive me, 53 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 1: forgive me for not remembering such a romantic occasion. 54 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 2: What this mess? The mess of the trail of broken 55 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 2: hearts he would leave in his in his wake. 56 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 1: I was like, guys, is so extra. All I had 57 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:09,520 Speaker 1: to do was make a phone call and be like yeah, 58 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 1: so you know, we're just friends now, and I'm like, 59 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:13,640 Speaker 1: what do you have to clean up? But anyway, so 60 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 1: that's how the eleventh was chosen. So I'm like, you 61 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 1: know what, it's not all that special to me, but 62 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 1: it's a shame because I don't remember days. He remembers 63 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 1: the day we got engaged. I'm not gonna lie I 64 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 1: do it was in October sometime, because that's my birthday. 65 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:28,919 Speaker 1: But I can't hear from a nap. And I saw 66 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 1: flowers on the table and I was like, oh my god, 67 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 1: who's flowers to these? He just looked at me like Tiffany. 68 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 2: I was like, I mean, yes, thank you today. Oh 69 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 2: that's sweet. 70 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was sweet. 71 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 2: It's also my best friend Vivian's birthday, so I got 72 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 2: to give her a little shout out. And she's also 73 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 2: one of my well go ahead shout out commenced heavib, 74 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 2: so she was one of my bride's maids. So I 75 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 2: felt like I really didn't want to forget her birthday. 76 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 2: So I bought her something like I don't know, like 77 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 2: three or four weeks ago, would have had it delivered, 78 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 2: it arrived like over I think the time I was 79 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 2: away and I totally forgot that I bought. I bought 80 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 2: her something like id that have happened to you? 81 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 1: Like? 82 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 2: I ordered it? I had a plan and then I 83 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 2: she mentioned it or something like during the weekend and 84 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:17,039 Speaker 2: I was like, holy crap, I forgot about her birthday. 85 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 2: I was like, what am I gonna do? What can 86 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:20,839 Speaker 2: I get her? What is she like? Man? I like 87 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:21,360 Speaker 2: these earrings? 88 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 1: Wait? 89 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:23,600 Speaker 2: And I just took me forever to remember that I 90 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:26,160 Speaker 2: already bought her something like That's I had like wedding brain. 91 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:31,839 Speaker 1: So I'm sure she was surprised, like, oh my gosh. 92 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:32,839 Speaker 2: Well I haven't given it to her yet, because I 93 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 2: think she needed I think she needs a little break 94 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 2: from me. So I'm giving her a few days. But 95 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:40,480 Speaker 2: then I'm gonna lower her, loure her with a treat 96 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 2: to come get her present, and then like just so 97 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:47,679 Speaker 2: I can hang out with her some more. But I try, 98 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:49,480 Speaker 2: you know, you try. I think it's important. I think 99 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 2: birthdays are nice. I think it's nice to give birthday 100 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 2: gifts because no one really does it when you're grown up. 101 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 2: It's like, let me take you for a drink and 102 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:57,919 Speaker 2: let me, you know, take you to lunch. But it so, 103 00:04:57,960 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 2: I don't know. I think it's sweet to get a 104 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 2: little present. So that's happened. 105 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:07,840 Speaker 1: So this is a special episode, right because if Brown ambition, 106 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 1: we're gonna be doing some q n A. 107 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:13,040 Speaker 2: This is the episode you've all been waiting for, because 108 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 2: if you have been sending your question in, you're like, man, 109 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 2: why haven't read my question yet? They suck? They don't, 110 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:22,160 Speaker 2: they don't tell the truth, they're pick my question. I'm 111 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 2: giving up this. This this show is for you because 112 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:29,039 Speaker 2: I am cleaning out my inbox, cleaning it out, and 113 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 2: we are taking your questions and we're. 114 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 1: Gonna them all episode. 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Well, this is 130 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 1: what I see people do because I, you know, I 131 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 1: have a contact me box for like my my website, 132 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:25,160 Speaker 1: and people will because you typically have to type in 133 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 1: your email, they'll constantly like misspell their own email address. 134 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 1: So when you hit reply, it bounces back and I'm like, oh, 135 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 1: like now I have to try to guess, like what 136 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 1: the incorrect spelling was, Like, oh, you forgot it's not 137 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 1: dot com c O n is dot com. That's why 138 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:40,279 Speaker 1: it bounce back. 139 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 2: Well, I don't think they don't deserve a question, then 140 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:47,719 Speaker 2: they don't deserve an answer. Take your time. Yeah, I 141 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 2: just don't like not being able. I don't like not 142 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 2: knowing who I'm emailing, like their actual address. I can 143 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 2: like send follows. Maybe just because I'm a reporter and 144 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:56,160 Speaker 2: like I need question I need answers quickly, and I 145 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 2: feel like the comment boxes it takes a while. You 146 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:01,480 Speaker 2: know it's going to get dumped somewhere. But you guys 147 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 2: should know that I read every email and I read it, 148 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 2: you know well, and we picked the questions we think 149 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 2: are most interesting. So you're at your questions will get 150 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 2: read eventually. So again, Brianambisson podcast dot com or Briannibission 151 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 2: Podcasts at gmail dot com to send us your questions. 152 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 1: Let's get started. 153 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 2: First question, without further ado. Tonight's first question comes from 154 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 2: listener Nicole. She says, this is my second question to 155 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 2: you all. Okay, Nicole, and you're just being greedy now. Yeah, 156 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 2: and I've read your name, so it's too late. I 157 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 2: got to answer it. But I don't know if I 158 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 2: would have if I knew. 159 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 1: You got that. 160 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 2: You got that, It's okay, we're gonna start charging. On 161 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 2: the third question, that that's the trick, Nicole says, I 162 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 2: wanted to know if I'm allowed to open at IRA 163 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 2: with an outside company like Vanguard Fidelity, if I'm already 164 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 2: investing in my employer's retirement program. My job offers a 165 00:07:57,440 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 2: four oh three B plan with a three percent match, 166 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:02,120 Speaker 2: but I'm not a fan of the company. The plan 167 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 2: is through. The funds aren't that great. However, I'm not 168 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 2: giving up free money, so I invested enough to get 169 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 2: the match to the four one three B and a 170 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 2: smaller amount into the into the roth IRA. I'm going 171 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 2: to roll over my old retirement accounts from previous jobs 172 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 2: and considered opening an additional IRA, all through the same company, 173 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 2: probably Vanguard. However, I'm unsure if this is allowed, and 174 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 2: I heard that depending on the amount, I might not 175 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 2: get the full tax free benefit. Help hell, I'm meaning 176 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 2: to read that question again. So basically, I think she's 177 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:41,200 Speaker 2: super smart because a lot of people will blindly just 178 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 2: invest in whatever their employer has, whatever plans that they have, 179 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:48,720 Speaker 2: But she's made a wide decision. I think if you 180 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:50,960 Speaker 2: if you look at what actually your plan is invested 181 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:54,319 Speaker 2: in and you're not happy with the holdings, or you're 182 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 2: not happy with the diversification or the you know, the 183 00:08:57,320 --> 00:09:00,680 Speaker 2: historical performance of those funds, and you want to invest 184 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 2: outside of it, It's absolutely possible. Definitely one allowed. And 185 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:08,840 Speaker 2: my first piece of advice would have been to say, 186 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 2: you know, with that three percent match, you should definitely 187 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 2: at least put in enough money to matchure it for sure. 188 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:19,320 Speaker 2: Which is it looks like Nicole says she's already doing that, 189 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 2: So that's like two smart things right off the bat. 190 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 2: She says, I'm going to roll over my old retirement 191 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 2: accounts from previous jobs and considered opening an additional IRA 192 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 2: through the same company. So it sounds like she's already 193 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 2: opened a Vanguard account outside of her employment employment plan, 194 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 2: her four H three B plan, So she's already got 195 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 2: a side IRA, and now she wants to consider rolling 196 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 2: over old retirement accounts from previous jobs into that outside IRA. 197 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 2: I'm not sure if that's allowed, She. 198 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:54,200 Speaker 1: Says, Well, that's smart. I guess I thought that she 199 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 1: was trying to open up a third IRA account. 200 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm out sure. It's not really as clear, either 201 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 2: she's has a second one and she wants to roll 202 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 2: them over, or she she has a second one and 203 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:08,960 Speaker 2: she wants to open a third one, which isn't necessary, 204 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 2: like you should be able to roll over your previous 205 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 2: employer's IRA, just into the the IRA you've already opened. 206 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:20,680 Speaker 1: Yep. Because the thing is, if anyone, if you've switched 207 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:24,720 Speaker 1: jobs at any time, you're typically gonna have the one 208 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:27,959 Speaker 1: that your retirement account that your your company has provided. 209 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 1: And then if you switch jobs, you're not able to 210 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:33,839 Speaker 1: roll over your old job into your new job. You 211 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 1: would have to have an outside account like a Vanguard 212 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:42,080 Speaker 1: or a Marri Trade or whatever. And so yeah, rolling 213 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 1: over and making sure. You know, some people think, oh, 214 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 1: I could just withdraw my money and deposit it, and no, no, no, 215 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 1: you know you want to make sure that when you 216 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 1: roll over, you allow the company. So you would call 217 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 1: Vanguard and say, hey, I want to roll over. They're 218 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 1: going to send you specific paperwork and they'll roll over 219 00:10:57,040 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 1: for you. Because you don't want to withdraw the money 220 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:02,720 Speaker 1: and mistake makingly increase your income, which would increase your 221 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 1: taxes for the year. 222 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 2: Thank you to deposit it within sixty days because I 223 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 2: know one time when I was switching jobs, they cut 224 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:14,200 Speaker 2: me a check for my for my what was ever 225 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 2: left in my my four oh one K account and 226 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 2: just mailed me a check and I was like, oh, okay, 227 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 2: what can I do with this? And I almost just 228 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:24,960 Speaker 2: like put it in savings, but luckily I Yeah, I'd 229 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 2: ask someone you know for advice and they're like, oh, no, no, no, 230 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:30,959 Speaker 2: look into it. You have to deposit within sixty days 231 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:33,080 Speaker 2: or you'll get taxed on it, which defeats the whole 232 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 2: purpose of saving in those accounts. 233 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 1: And heavily taxed. Not some old punk ten percent, no, 234 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:42,200 Speaker 1: now upwards of white. I think I got taxed like 235 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 1: thirty percent something crazy. Oh when I took the money 236 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 1: out of my my four or three. 237 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 2: B oh yeah, talking about that. 238 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, when I lost my job. I'd lost my job 239 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:56,320 Speaker 1: as a teacher during the recession because of my school 240 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 1: was a nonprofit based school and nobody was giving funds anymore. 241 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:03,319 Speaker 1: And so at the time I had moved back home 242 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 1: with my parents, got sick of that, moved on my 243 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:08,720 Speaker 1: sister's couch. She got sick of me and was like, girl, 244 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 1: you got thirty days, and I was like no, And 245 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 1: so I was working on my business at the time, 246 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 1: which was making zero dollars, and so I told myself, 247 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 1: and I do not suggest this, but I told myself, Okay, 248 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 1: I'm going to take out the money for my four 249 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:26,560 Speaker 1: h three B which is my retirement account. And I 250 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 1: think it was I don't know, maybe like forty thousand 251 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 1: dollars or something, or fifty thousand dollars. I think I 252 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 1: vaguely remember getting like twenty five to thirty thousand dollars. 253 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:38,720 Speaker 1: But they took a significant amount of money. I know 254 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:41,320 Speaker 1: they took a significant amount. But I took that money 255 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 1: out and I told myself, this is your money for 256 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 1: the year. You have a year to get the budget 257 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:50,800 Speaker 1: NIZA to a point where you can actually make money 258 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 1: to support yourself. If after this money runs out, the 259 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 1: business is not making enough to support yourself, you have 260 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:57,559 Speaker 1: to go back and get a job, go back to 261 00:12:57,600 --> 00:13:00,240 Speaker 1: teaching and get a regular job. And so I later 262 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 1: it was down for like my last hundred dollars and 263 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 1: I started making money, and I was like, thank you Jesus, 264 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:06,560 Speaker 1: But yeah, I took the money out of mine and 265 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:09,959 Speaker 1: it was a significant amount of money, and I regret it, honestly. 266 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:12,840 Speaker 1: I mean, well, I mean, you know, hindsight's twenty twenty. 267 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 1: I mean, I guess I kind of regret it, But 268 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:17,440 Speaker 1: then I wouldn't maybe maybe the BUDGETISA would not be 269 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 1: what it is now. But I lost so much money, 270 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:23,640 Speaker 1: and honestly, I wasn't able to, Like I just recently 271 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 1: started within the last maybe five years, and I'm thirty seven, 272 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 1: started contributing to a retirement accountant, so I've lost a 273 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:31,080 Speaker 1: lot of years. 274 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so, it's so tempting. And when I was 275 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 2: growing up, when I had heard about four oh one k's, 276 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:39,839 Speaker 2: and by the time I became a financial reporter, to me, 277 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 2: like just from learning from the context people would usually 278 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:45,199 Speaker 2: talk about a four oh one K, I was like, oh, 279 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 2: that's that thing you dip into when you can't afford stuff. 280 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:52,480 Speaker 2: Because that's the only time I ever heard someone mention 281 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:54,079 Speaker 2: it was like, oh, yeah, I got to dip into 282 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 2: the four oh one k again, like usually around the 283 00:13:56,679 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 2: time the car brokes down or you know, you can't 284 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 2: afford this or whatever. I'm not gonna name names, so anyway, 285 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:05,560 Speaker 2: that was the context. So I like my first job, 286 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:08,679 Speaker 2: not my first job, but my first job, I was 287 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 2: laid off of way too soon to even understand, like 288 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 2: what their four one K system was, but my next one, 289 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:17,559 Speaker 2: but that first startup and they matched one hundred percent 290 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 2: up to five percent of your contributions. I didn't even 291 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 2: know enough like to even do that, like I would 292 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 2: think I will work there. I worked there at least 293 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 2: a year and a half, and I didn't contribute a 294 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:29,880 Speaker 2: penny to my four to one K, and I think 295 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 2: one time, just for fun and to torture myself, I 296 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 2: looked at what I would have made if I had 297 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 2: just put in, like, you know, one hundred two hundred 298 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 2: bucks every paycheck and let that grow. And it wasn't 299 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 2: a it wasn't an insignificant sum of money. It was 300 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 2: definitely five figures. And that kind of stung. But I 301 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 2: learned from my mistakes, you know. I thankfully I got 302 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:54,480 Speaker 2: into this job. And I would say I started just 303 00:14:54,520 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 2: to encourage. If anyone's out there and thinking, you know, 304 00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 2: I'm twenty three and I barely make enough money to 305 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 2: afford my rent, how can I possibly you know, think 306 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 2: about contributing to a retirement account. I really started contributing 307 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 2: when I was twenty four, and I just started with 308 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 2: my little I think I started with like six percent 309 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 2: and then I worked up to ten percent eventually. And 310 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 2: I'm twenty nine, now, am I gonna put my business 311 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:24,240 Speaker 2: out there? Okay? Fine? So in the one and this is, oh, 312 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 2: this is even better. So this is this is the 313 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 2: money that I've been saving since I was twenty four 314 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:33,240 Speaker 2: until last April when I left my job at Yahoo. 315 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 2: So this is from two jobs combined over just a 316 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:40,920 Speaker 2: period of let's see, from twenty four to twenty eight, 317 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 2: so four years. I have over forty thousand dollars. And 318 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 2: not just that that's only four years, but not just that, 319 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 2: like I haven't touched that four one case, since I 320 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 2: left Yahoo. I have a separate, you know, retirement account 321 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:58,000 Speaker 2: through my new job, and I haven't rolled it over yet. 322 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 2: I just haven't gotten around to it. But I haven't 323 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 2: touched it. And I've gained like six to eight thousand 324 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 2: dollars just in the last like less than a year 325 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 2: since I left Yahu, but just not touching it. And like, 326 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 2: we had a great market this year. The market was 327 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 2: like really rallying, you know, unfortunately something that I had 328 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 2: to do with our current president just a little bit. 329 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 2: But even before that, there was a great like I 330 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 2: think this summer, there was a rally sometime in August, 331 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 2: and yeah, so I haven't even touched that sucker since 332 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 2: I left, and I've made I'm making money. And that 333 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 2: is the beauty of compounding interest. And that is why 334 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 2: I think that if you were me at twenty three, 335 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 2: twenty four and thinking you can't do it, just start, like, 336 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:41,480 Speaker 2: just start any just start anything, you know. I I 337 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 2: and said it and forget it, you know, like I did. 338 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 2: I I just put my money in target date funds. 339 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:48,880 Speaker 2: And yeah, people say, well that's not you know, that's 340 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 2: not really they're not always the best idea. But hell, 341 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 2: I wouldn't have forty thousand dollars if I hadn't, I'd much. 342 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 1: Right too, Like like Manny said, you honestly starting with 343 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 1: even if you start with two percent, And then what 344 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 1: I used to do is when I first started, because 345 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:05,280 Speaker 1: I didn't have a whole lot, I said, okay, I 346 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:07,240 Speaker 1: can do two percent, and then every six months I 347 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:09,359 Speaker 1: would bump it up a percentage so I could barely 348 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 1: feel it. And now as entrepreneur, I set aside. I 349 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:17,840 Speaker 1: think I'm setting aside. I want to say twenty or 350 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:22,480 Speaker 1: twenty five percent of my gross income toward retirement because 351 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:24,399 Speaker 1: I feel like, you know, I feel like I'm behind 352 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:26,640 Speaker 1: since I just started, maybe like two or three years ago, 353 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:31,000 Speaker 1: starting to invest or put money aside for retirement. But 354 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:34,480 Speaker 1: you know, and sometimes you know, that's what it looks like. 355 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:37,040 Speaker 1: I don't mind. I live off of way less than 356 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:40,720 Speaker 1: half of my income because i'm you know, because I 357 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 1: started a little bit late, and because I work for myself, 358 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:46,119 Speaker 1: you know, and I don't have somebody to match me. 359 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:49,320 Speaker 1: But you know, where you are is not always where 360 00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 1: you're going to be. So really, wealth is a habit. 361 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 1: So starting with one percent jumped from that. I remember 362 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 1: one year when I was like, oh, I was able 363 00:17:56,040 --> 00:17:57,960 Speaker 1: to jump to five percent, and then all of a 364 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:00,040 Speaker 1: sudden it was like, oh, six, seven, and then I 365 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:02,560 Speaker 1: jumped to ten and then fifteen and then twenty five. 366 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:05,120 Speaker 1: So you know, but if I never had started at one, 367 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:06,679 Speaker 1: then I don't know that would have ever made it 368 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 1: to twenty five. So to answer Nicole's question, yes, you 369 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:13,960 Speaker 1: can roll over. I'm assuming you're not asking to open 370 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:15,720 Speaker 1: a third account. You don't, you don't need to. You 371 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:18,520 Speaker 1: could just roll it over into your current Vanguard account 372 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:20,480 Speaker 1: and you should be good to go. 373 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 2: But kudos for like looking for better and looking for more, 374 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:28,280 Speaker 2: taking advantage of that match and then looking for something 375 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:31,200 Speaker 2: a little bit better. Excellent. So you brought up you 376 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:33,760 Speaker 2: were talking about your entrepreneurship in that first year when 377 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 2: you were living out of your off your four to 378 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:38,879 Speaker 2: one k Tiffany. So this next question is actually a 379 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 2: great segue because it is for miss Tiffany, miss budgetista. 380 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 2: She asks, and I don't have an oh t. Her 381 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:48,719 Speaker 2: name is just t. Can you talk about how you 382 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:51,200 Speaker 2: took the leap to create your business? Did you always 383 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:53,400 Speaker 2: want a business and you pursue that interest or did 384 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:56,800 Speaker 2: you have the idea and interest? First, I want the 385 00:18:56,880 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 2: dirty details because I'm honestly sick of the rosy over 386 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:02,600 Speaker 2: success stories in which no one goes into the actual 387 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:05,600 Speaker 2: steps taken towards success. Girl, I feel you. 388 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:07,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, ain't no overnight been. 389 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 2: The good news is that Tiffany's got a great non 390 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:15,200 Speaker 2: really over success. This is gonna hurt. 391 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:18,560 Speaker 1: Yes, it was hard, Okay, So I was a school teacher, 392 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 1: preschool teacher. I loved it, and then recession hit. School 393 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:27,119 Speaker 1: closed and it was kind of a you heard the murmurings, 394 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:30,160 Speaker 1: but like, really we got the news three days before 395 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 1: the new school year. So it was really hard because 396 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:35,680 Speaker 1: typically in the summer teachers don't work. You don't work, 397 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:38,199 Speaker 1: you don't get paid. So that September, as much as 398 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 1: you don't want to go back to school, you're kind 399 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:42,160 Speaker 1: of like, Yay, my check is coming, and we got 400 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 1: to learn that no, that's not coming ever, no more school. 401 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:48,280 Speaker 1: So I was like, yikes. Thankfully I had money saved 402 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 1: because I just was a saver, but I had also 403 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:55,920 Speaker 1: made like that summer I made a big financial mistake, 404 00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:57,720 Speaker 1: or I think it was like the year before where 405 00:19:57,760 --> 00:20:00,720 Speaker 1: I'd invested with a friend and ended up thirty five 406 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:02,920 Speaker 1: thousand dollars in credit card debt. So here I am 407 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:05,680 Speaker 1: no job, a home that I bought maybe a few 408 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 1: years before, thirty five thousand dollars a credit card debt, 409 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:10,399 Speaker 1: and fifty thousand dollars a student loan debt. So I 410 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:12,920 Speaker 1: was like, basically like three hundred thousand dollars in debt 411 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:15,399 Speaker 1: and no job, and I was like, oh, this is great. 412 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:22,400 Speaker 1: So I trickly, I know exactly, so I quickly decided, 413 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:24,080 Speaker 1: like I spoke to I was calling my sister like 414 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:25,919 Speaker 1: what am I gonna do? And she was like I 415 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 1: think you should move back home. So I did. So 416 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:30,119 Speaker 1: I moved back home and I rented out my condo 417 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:31,959 Speaker 1: to a friend of mine, which was the worst mistake 418 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:35,159 Speaker 1: ever because I rented out my condo to him and 419 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 1: he promptly proceeded to like never pay rent. So here 420 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:41,399 Speaker 1: I was, yeah, so I thot, I was like, okay, 421 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:43,280 Speaker 1: I still I at the time, I had about a 422 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:45,480 Speaker 1: year and a half worth of savings, which I was like, 423 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 1: I should be fine. I rent out my condo, make 424 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 1: a little, you know. And then and I think I 425 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:51,879 Speaker 1: was renting it out for like two or three hundred 426 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:54,160 Speaker 1: dollars more than what my mortgage was. And I said, 427 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 1: I have my savings, I'm moving back home. I'm so smart, 428 00:20:56,880 --> 00:20:59,200 Speaker 1: I'm so good. I paid down this credit card debt. 429 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:01,359 Speaker 1: So he proceeded not to pay. So I ended up 430 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:04,280 Speaker 1: still having to paid my mortgage, but and not so 431 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 1: I was still. I was bleeding money for like a 432 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:09,879 Speaker 1: year until I was able to get him out. And 433 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:13,000 Speaker 1: by then at some point I had to stop paying 434 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:15,119 Speaker 1: my mortgage, which was the hardest thing ever because I 435 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:18,520 Speaker 1: had never been laid on any bill ever. So here 436 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:21,160 Speaker 1: I was like, you know, of stop paying my mortgage. 437 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 1: My house went into basically like pre foreclosure, and I 438 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:28,480 Speaker 1: was living home and I was I just turned thirty, 439 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:31,439 Speaker 1: and I remember being like, wow, this is not thirty thirty. 440 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:38,040 Speaker 1: This sucks because my parents, who are very Nigerian, were like, okay, 441 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:41,240 Speaker 1: so the rules are still the same. You have to 442 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:47,119 Speaker 1: be home by midnight, midnight at thirty worse, you know. 443 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:48,399 Speaker 1: I was like, are you kidding me? By dad, I 444 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:49,719 Speaker 1: was like, and you got to do the dishes on 445 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:52,359 Speaker 1: Saturday and you got it. I was like, yo, my 446 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:54,199 Speaker 1: life could not get worse, but it could, Oh, but 447 00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:58,359 Speaker 1: it could. So yeah, so I moved back home. It sucks. 448 00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:00,960 Speaker 1: My parents are awesome, and now I didn't have to 449 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:03,160 Speaker 1: pay rent or anything. But still the rules were still 450 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:05,760 Speaker 1: the same from when I was like twenty, not even like, 451 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:09,439 Speaker 1: you know, fifteen. So I and at the time I 452 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 1: didn't know. I didn't have plans for a business. I 453 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:14,880 Speaker 1: just said I knew I didn't want to go back 454 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:17,240 Speaker 1: to a job. Truthfully, it's not that I had so 455 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:19,960 Speaker 1: much courage. I was pissed. I was pissed, and I 456 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 1: was afraid because teachers don't lose their job. It's like 457 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 1: being a police officer or you know, like there's certain 458 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:28,160 Speaker 1: jobs that you're not supposed to lose. So I thought, well, 459 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:29,760 Speaker 1: why would I go back. There's no such thing as 460 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:31,680 Speaker 1: job safety. I had the safest job in the world, 461 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:33,679 Speaker 1: and they let us go three days before the new 462 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 1: school year. So I refused to enter the job for 463 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:39,119 Speaker 1: so I was like stubborn, even though at all this 464 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:41,720 Speaker 1: debt and all this stuff that I was owing, I 465 00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:43,919 Speaker 1: was able. I had to make a choice between do 466 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:45,880 Speaker 1: I pay my mortgage or do I pay the rest 467 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:48,000 Speaker 1: of my bills, And so I decided to let the 468 00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:50,840 Speaker 1: mortgage go keep up with the rest of my bills 469 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:54,560 Speaker 1: from by paying through my savings. And I volunteered everywhere 470 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 1: you can think of because I was trying to figure 471 00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:57,719 Speaker 1: out what's the next stage and I didn't know what 472 00:22:57,760 --> 00:23:02,160 Speaker 1: I wanted to do, and so in volunteering, I always 473 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:03,879 Speaker 1: was the go to person for my friends when it 474 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 1: came to budgeting and saving and stuff. And I thought 475 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 1: I wanted to become an event planner. So I found 476 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:12,399 Speaker 1: myself volunteering at different nonprofits planning events. But while I 477 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:15,679 Speaker 1: was there, I ended up teaching you know, the secretary 478 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:18,000 Speaker 1: the bus boys of this person, that person girl. I's 479 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:19,480 Speaker 1: not how you budget? This is how you do it. 480 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:22,440 Speaker 1: And people started asking me at these different places where 481 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:25,800 Speaker 1: I was volunteering for that help, and then the nonprofit 482 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 1: would be like, well can you teach that to our constituents? 483 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:31,720 Speaker 1: And so especially in my city, New Or, where I 484 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:35,199 Speaker 1: lived and where I worked, that I became like, you know, 485 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:37,120 Speaker 1: it started to get out like, oh, you need help 486 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:39,840 Speaker 1: with your budget, asked that girl over there at the nonprofit. 487 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:42,240 Speaker 1: And one day my best friend, Drina, said you should 488 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:44,439 Speaker 1: charge for that. I'm like, charge for us, and she 489 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:49,480 Speaker 1: was like, girl, you don't have any money. So I 490 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 1: thought I charging people like twenty five to fifty bucks 491 00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:53,440 Speaker 1: to do their budget with them, which they propably did 492 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 1: not want to pay, Like, well girl, I only have 493 00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:57,720 Speaker 1: ten I'm like, we've been at it for three hours ten. 494 00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:01,879 Speaker 2: Dollars when it would one day become your pr rep. 495 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:05,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's my publicist, and so was she. It was 496 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 1: really hard, honestly, So I moved out from my parents' 497 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:10,159 Speaker 1: house and I moved in with my sister because I 498 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:13,359 Speaker 1: just could not take the rules anymore. And I stayed 499 00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 1: with her for about a year. I took it. I 500 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 1: told her all I need is a year, and I 501 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:19,600 Speaker 1: started making a little bit of money, like you know, 502 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:22,120 Speaker 1: like maybe about one hundred to two hundred dollars a month. 503 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:24,760 Speaker 1: And by then I had gotten my old tenant out 504 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:27,720 Speaker 1: and I had a new tenant, and so this is 505 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 1: like this was transformative for me in that my new 506 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:34,439 Speaker 1: tenant was paying my mortgage, which was like, well, how 507 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:36,560 Speaker 1: much my mortgageche which is about twelve hundred No, lesson 508 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:38,359 Speaker 1: of my mortgage which is about twelve hundred dollars a month. 509 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:40,840 Speaker 1: But by then I was so behind on my mortgage, 510 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:43,520 Speaker 1: over a year behind. They wouldn't take any money from me. 511 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:45,760 Speaker 1: They were like, unless you have all the money and 512 00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:47,840 Speaker 1: all the fees, we don't want any monthly amount for you. 513 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 1: So I said, bet, you got to tell me but once. 514 00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:53,959 Speaker 1: So that's that's what I lived off of. So my 515 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:56,520 Speaker 1: tenant was paying me twelve hundred and I didn't give 516 00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:58,800 Speaker 1: it to the the mortgage company. They wouldn't take it. 517 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 1: So I was living off of her rent money. So 518 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:03,439 Speaker 1: when people are like, oh, you got a business, I 519 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:05,359 Speaker 1: was like, yeah, girl. Meanwhile the business was paying me 520 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:08,280 Speaker 1: next to nothing. The rent money is how I survived. 521 00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:12,080 Speaker 2: And that's so I had the foreclosure process. It takes time, right, 522 00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:13,560 Speaker 2: it can take like years. 523 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:16,160 Speaker 1: Sometimes it's like six or seven years before they finally 524 00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:18,800 Speaker 1: took the house in forecloses. So for that long, I 525 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:22,720 Speaker 1: was like, but I wasn't collecting for that long cause 526 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:23,920 Speaker 1: I didn't have a tenant for that I think I 527 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 1: had a tenant for about two years. And when I 528 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:29,439 Speaker 1: was at my sister's, she the tenant was like, Okay, 529 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:31,479 Speaker 1: I'm buying a house and I'm moving on. And I 530 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:33,359 Speaker 1: was like, yikes. So I was down to like my 531 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 1: last like one hundred bucks, and my sister was like, 532 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:37,840 Speaker 1: you know, you've been here for a year. You said 533 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:40,159 Speaker 1: three months, it's time for you to go. And I 534 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:41,480 Speaker 1: was like, I don't want to go back to Bobbie 535 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:43,600 Speaker 1: and Daddy. So I took money out of my four 536 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 1: one K my work four three B, which is my 537 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:48,199 Speaker 1: retirement account, and I told myself, Tippy, you have a 538 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:51,400 Speaker 1: year to make this business work. You've been working on it, 539 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:54,639 Speaker 1: you've been volunteering, you've been giving This was about two 540 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:57,119 Speaker 1: thousand and nine, twenty ten. You've been from two thousand 541 00:25:57,160 --> 00:26:00,359 Speaker 1: and eight to twenty ten, you've been doing everything for free. 542 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:02,479 Speaker 1: You have you know, you have to do something. And 543 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:05,080 Speaker 1: so I took the money out, and I moved out 544 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:07,080 Speaker 1: of her house. I moved into a room in newer 545 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:09,760 Speaker 1: And if you're not familiar with a room, that's where 546 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:11,639 Speaker 1: people go when they come home from jail and they 547 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:13,399 Speaker 1: only have four hundred dollars a month. That's what I 548 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:15,639 Speaker 1: was living in a room. Thankfully, a friend of mine 549 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:18,879 Speaker 1: was like renting a room in this house in Newark, 550 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:20,480 Speaker 1: a brownstone, and she was like, you know, the rest 551 00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:21,960 Speaker 1: of the house is empty. You should have read a 552 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:24,080 Speaker 1: room here too, And because we didn't want, like, you know, 553 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:25,800 Speaker 1: any felons to live with us, we filled it up 554 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:29,200 Speaker 1: with other women who were basically like like, we were struggling, 555 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:31,600 Speaker 1: and so it was a house full of awesome would 556 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:34,600 Speaker 1: be entrepreneurs who could only afford about five hundred bucks 557 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 1: a month. That's how much my room costs to include 558 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:39,000 Speaker 1: like all utilities in your little room. So I was 559 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:40,639 Speaker 1: paying five hundred bucks a month, and I stayed in 560 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:42,520 Speaker 1: that room for like two two and a half years. 561 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:45,240 Speaker 1: I already had a car that I had bought for 562 00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:47,520 Speaker 1: four thousand dollars when I was like twenty six, twenty seven. 563 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:49,680 Speaker 1: I still had that same car up until last week. 564 00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:53,639 Speaker 1: Last week, and home. Oh, man, I didn't tell you 565 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:57,760 Speaker 1: about a car anyway, And then I talked to we 566 00:26:57,800 --> 00:26:59,000 Speaker 1: must have So, yeah, I just bought it like a 567 00:26:59,080 --> 00:26:59,720 Speaker 1: last I knew that. 568 00:26:59,880 --> 00:27:02,520 Speaker 2: I don't Yeah, I knew it. You were you had 569 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:04,280 Speaker 2: picked out a car and you were gonna do it. 570 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:06,040 Speaker 2: Isn't it like a Yah Lincoln or. 571 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:10,360 Speaker 1: Dah twenty fifteen Lincoln? MKZ. But I'm talking about I 572 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:12,359 Speaker 1: just bought a car. I've had the same car for 573 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:15,479 Speaker 1: over ten years, and so it was such a struggle because, 574 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:17,760 Speaker 1: you know, I didn't know if it was gonna work. 575 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:19,359 Speaker 1: I mean, I was making it up as I went along. 576 00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:23,200 Speaker 1: I'd gone to school for business and my masters. My 577 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:25,960 Speaker 1: my concentration was marketing. But honestly, I didn't remember that 578 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:28,240 Speaker 1: I was a preschool teacher for ten years and I'd 579 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:30,800 Speaker 1: got my master's in education, so that's what I was 580 00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:32,800 Speaker 1: good at. I was good at teaching and everything else 581 00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:34,760 Speaker 1: I made up along the way. I still make it 582 00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:37,159 Speaker 1: up along the way. It was hard. I used to 583 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:38,480 Speaker 1: cry all the time because I used to be like, 584 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:42,280 Speaker 1: literally every month I started at zero, meaning there was 585 00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:44,359 Speaker 1: no money on the board every month, meaning how these 586 00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:46,879 Speaker 1: bills are gonna get paid? And throughout the month, you know, 587 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 1: I would get like a speaking engagement for one hundred dollars, 588 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:51,359 Speaker 1: and then another thing for two hundred, and another thing 589 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 1: for fifty and somehow make most of my bills work, 590 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:56,119 Speaker 1: and then the rest I would roll over to the 591 00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:58,400 Speaker 1: next month. So every month I lived like that for 592 00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:00,480 Speaker 1: like almost three years of not knowing if I was 593 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:04,000 Speaker 1: going to be able to pay anything, until the business 594 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:07,640 Speaker 1: started picking up after I wouldn't say, two thousand and thirteen. 595 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:10,000 Speaker 1: So after about three years in it started picking up, 596 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:13,360 Speaker 1: and I was consistently making about maybe I want to say, 597 00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:16,000 Speaker 1: maybe like fifteen hundred dollars a month, enough to pay bills, 598 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:19,399 Speaker 1: enough to you know, you know, I didn't have like 599 00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:21,840 Speaker 1: extra I didn't have a car note or anything like that, 600 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:25,200 Speaker 1: so enough to basically sustain myself. And it really wasn't 601 00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:28,440 Speaker 1: until two thousand and fifteen that I brought on help 602 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:30,520 Speaker 1: because I was like doing well enough. I was like, okay, 603 00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:32,879 Speaker 1: you make a little something every month, you know, you 604 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:35,240 Speaker 1: could pay yourself. But it was just me and I 605 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:38,200 Speaker 1: wanted to grow, and I brought on help and I 606 00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:40,440 Speaker 1: couldn't even And at the time I had said that, 607 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:42,520 Speaker 1: by then I had scrolled away enough money to pay 608 00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:44,640 Speaker 1: it out my credit card debt. I still had my 609 00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:47,120 Speaker 1: student loan that it was in deferment. They had taken 610 00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:49,440 Speaker 1: the house, so I didn't owe the three hundred two 611 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:51,400 Speaker 1: fifty or whatever the house was worth anymore because they 612 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:54,520 Speaker 1: had taken it. And Obama at the time had this 613 00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:56,920 Speaker 1: like law where if they took your house, you know, 614 00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,000 Speaker 1: they basically erased your debt and you didn't have to 615 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:02,560 Speaker 1: pay taxes on the debt was erased. So I wasn't 616 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:04,960 Speaker 1: debt free, but you know, it was just my student 617 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:08,880 Speaker 1: loan debt, and I saved enough money to hire somebody 618 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:12,200 Speaker 1: for six months. Now. It was a previous intern, and 619 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:13,760 Speaker 1: I told her, you know, I only have six months 620 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:16,000 Speaker 1: worth of pay, but if you come on board in 621 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:18,200 Speaker 1: six months, if we put this work in, we can 622 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:20,360 Speaker 1: make it work. And so she came on board and 623 00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:24,520 Speaker 1: within six months, I mean, we quadrupled how much the 624 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:26,840 Speaker 1: budget needs to make. But that's recent in twenty fifteen, 625 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:32,160 Speaker 1: and then last year we made like quadruple that, and 626 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:33,960 Speaker 1: this year we stand to make about a million dollars 627 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:36,120 Speaker 1: this year. We've already made half a million this year 628 00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:39,720 Speaker 1: and so but like this is a new thing, This 629 00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:42,520 Speaker 1: is years, and this has struggle, This is crying, This 630 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:46,200 Speaker 1: is by myself. Entrepreneurship is really lonely because it's your baby. 631 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:48,560 Speaker 1: You're a single mother, when you're a single father, when 632 00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:51,400 Speaker 1: you're an entrepreneur, and even though people help you, it's 633 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:54,960 Speaker 1: still your baby, and there's no guarantee that it's gonna work. 634 00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:57,520 Speaker 1: And I was not a pure entrepreneur. Some people are like, oh, 635 00:29:57,600 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 1: I just worked on my dream. Yeah, girl, I babysat, 636 00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:04,800 Speaker 1: I tutored, I did. I did all this stuff on 637 00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:07,440 Speaker 1: the side to kind of fill in the gaps. Like 638 00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:10,680 Speaker 1: I lived so simply. I couldn't afford grocery. At one point, 639 00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 1: I used to wait till my parents were away at 640 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:14,160 Speaker 1: church and then go raid their freezer, like, oh, they 641 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:20,960 Speaker 1: don't need all this chicken. I used to go to events. May. 642 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:23,000 Speaker 1: I used to go to events like wait, they got food, 643 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:24,880 Speaker 1: and then we would go late and be like, so 644 00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:26,360 Speaker 1: what are you guys gonna do with all this food 645 00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:26,720 Speaker 1: at the. 646 00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:30,760 Speaker 2: End, because we need It's not surprising where all those 647 00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:33,280 Speaker 2: Yahoo snacks you stole over the years. 648 00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:37,160 Speaker 1: Yes, exactly. I used to want me and Maddy's taping Yahoo. 649 00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:40,840 Speaker 1: I used to be like, so, where are the. 650 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:44,320 Speaker 2: Y'all had a dark chocolate conbers this week. Lame, I 651 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:47,400 Speaker 2: really disappointing, really disappointing. I like those dark. 652 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:52,640 Speaker 1: So like. Yeah, so it was it was difficult and 653 00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:54,120 Speaker 1: it was hard, and I would say it's really the 654 00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:55,880 Speaker 1: last I want to say, two or three years that 655 00:30:56,360 --> 00:31:00,560 Speaker 1: business has really done well. But it was definitely not easy. 656 00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:02,320 Speaker 1: And it's still not easy. Even though you know we 657 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:05,240 Speaker 1: do well in business, it's still hard because you know, 658 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:08,560 Speaker 1: there's still expectations to manage. It's harder now that as 659 00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:10,960 Speaker 1: business does better, how do I manage you know, my 660 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:14,280 Speaker 1: personal life as well as my business and making sure 661 00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:16,720 Speaker 1: that Superman is is good. And I still see my 662 00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:18,760 Speaker 1: niece of my nephew, and I call my sisters and 663 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:22,040 Speaker 1: I you know, there's more things on my plate, but 664 00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:27,160 Speaker 1: I'm not broken anymore. And I'm one of the Oh 665 00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:27,560 Speaker 1: go ahead. 666 00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:29,920 Speaker 2: I was going to ask, you know, five hundred thousand 667 00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:32,120 Speaker 2: dollars half a million sounds like a lot of money, 668 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:35,400 Speaker 2: but when you're a business owner, you're also the more 669 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:37,960 Speaker 2: you grow, the more expensive it gets to run, I guess, 670 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:40,360 Speaker 2: And how are you sort of managing that, like at 671 00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:43,000 Speaker 2: the same time keeping an eye to your profit while 672 00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:44,640 Speaker 2: like trying to grow at the same time. 673 00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:48,040 Speaker 1: So honestly, I was. I wasn't. I was very terrible 674 00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:50,840 Speaker 1: until literally, I want to say, we just hired. I 675 00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:53,440 Speaker 1: had an accountant that I would see every quarter to 676 00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:57,320 Speaker 1: do my my my, my taxes. But I knew something 677 00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:00,200 Speaker 1: was off because the numbers will always be off. Literally, 678 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:03,120 Speaker 1: I just hired a new executive assistant and she has 679 00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:05,760 Speaker 1: her MBA and accounting. Because my accountant was somebody who 680 00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:07,520 Speaker 1: was a big picture. Whatever I gave to him is 681 00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:09,440 Speaker 1: what he worked with. I said, I need someone to 682 00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:11,600 Speaker 1: look at the stuff I'm giving to him because I'm 683 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:14,120 Speaker 1: doing something wrong. And I was. I was accounting. I 684 00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:15,760 Speaker 1: got a d an accounty. I'm not even gonna lie 685 00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:18,680 Speaker 1: in town. And I was doing it all. I mean, 686 00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:21,960 Speaker 1: I wasted so much. I mean tens of thousands of dollars. 687 00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:23,680 Speaker 1: And this is just recent, Like I said, I still 688 00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:26,480 Speaker 1: make so many mistakes. So she her name is Rachel, 689 00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:29,720 Speaker 1: and I have been working through the finances of the 690 00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:32,880 Speaker 1: business because running a business, I know how to teach. 691 00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:35,600 Speaker 1: I could be the budgetista and I can manage my 692 00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:39,480 Speaker 1: personal finances. It's totally different your business finances. And I 693 00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:42,600 Speaker 1: was getting it wrong and It's so crazy because working 694 00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:45,880 Speaker 1: with Rachel, I finally get to see what it feels 695 00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:47,880 Speaker 1: like when people work with me with their personal finances, 696 00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:49,680 Speaker 1: and they're like, oh my god, because that's what I 697 00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:51,160 Speaker 1: feel like with her every day. So for the last 698 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:54,360 Speaker 1: two weeks, every day we've been like basically unearthing all 699 00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:57,960 Speaker 1: of the mess that I've created and just to see 700 00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:01,400 Speaker 1: the light on the other tunnel and I'm like, oh, oh, oh, 701 00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:03,160 Speaker 1: that's on the wrong line and this is why I 702 00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:05,480 Speaker 1: was paying too much in taxes and this is why. 703 00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:08,320 Speaker 1: And before you know, if I hired somebody, I'd be like, ah, yeah, 704 00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:10,040 Speaker 1: I guess we can afford to pay them fifteen dollars 705 00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:13,240 Speaker 1: an hour. I didn't. I wouldn't know. And I felt 706 00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:15,000 Speaker 1: like I was making a ton of money, but I 707 00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:18,480 Speaker 1: wasn't seeing it. And it's because I was accounting incorrectly 708 00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:22,160 Speaker 1: and I was just paying out too much. And so yeah, 709 00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:25,040 Speaker 1: so that's still something so new to me. So entrepreneurship 710 00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:29,800 Speaker 1: is constantly It's hard because you're constantly evolving, but you 711 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:33,280 Speaker 1: have to want to. Every year, I set aside a 712 00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:36,280 Speaker 1: personal goal for the business. So this year it's all 713 00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:38,760 Speaker 1: about get that money right, like behind the scenes. And 714 00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:40,800 Speaker 1: so last year was like, oh, we were opening up 715 00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:42,920 Speaker 1: the Academy, and before that it was like we had 716 00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:44,840 Speaker 1: a Live Richer Challenge and that was that was the 717 00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:47,080 Speaker 1: first time we did a challenge. And so every year 718 00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:49,000 Speaker 1: we usually have like I usually have a main project 719 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:50,680 Speaker 1: that I'm working on, and this year it's really all 720 00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:54,360 Speaker 1: about the behind the scenes finances. And that's all you 721 00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:57,680 Speaker 1: can do is try your best to do your best 722 00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:00,400 Speaker 1: and then when you when you realize you're doing something wrong, 723 00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:04,959 Speaker 1: ask for help. So what I would suggest to anybody 724 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:07,640 Speaker 1: who's wanted to be an entrepreneur is one you have 725 00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:09,640 Speaker 1: to be willing to be wrong all the time. Like 726 00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:12,480 Speaker 1: we make mistakes all the time. Me and Sierra my coo. 727 00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:14,520 Speaker 1: She used to be my intern and now she's my coo. 728 00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:16,520 Speaker 1: We giggle all the time. We're like, yo, girl, we 729 00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:18,160 Speaker 1: are a mess. That is not even though my email 730 00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:19,759 Speaker 1: was supposed to send out to our list of three 731 00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:23,799 Speaker 1: hundred thousand, or like, we set out a link and 732 00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:25,560 Speaker 1: I'm like, the link's not working. Nobody checked the link. 733 00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:27,359 Speaker 1: Done it. Now we got to set out of oops 734 00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:28,960 Speaker 1: email and then the oops are top of the oops 735 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:33,200 Speaker 1: email and so those things. But you learned one not 736 00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:37,200 Speaker 1: to take yourself so seriously to ask for help. That 737 00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:39,160 Speaker 1: was a mistake that I made that it took me 738 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:42,279 Speaker 1: too long to ask for help. And now that I 739 00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:45,440 Speaker 1: ask for help, it's helped so much because we've grown 740 00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:47,840 Speaker 1: so much. If I would have asked for help, I 741 00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:50,520 Speaker 1: could have saved, like I said, tens of thousands of 742 00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:52,560 Speaker 1: dollars in taxes and the mistakes that I was making, 743 00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:54,960 Speaker 1: because I mean like, at one point we paid an 744 00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:57,680 Speaker 1: extra thirty thousand dollars in taxes because a mistake I made. 745 00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:00,680 Speaker 1: And I was like, can you get come back? No, 746 00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:04,000 Speaker 1: because it wasn't a mistake that I can change. It 747 00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:06,600 Speaker 1: was like the way you said up your business, like 748 00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:11,120 Speaker 1: if you're an LLC versus an ES corp, Like that 749 00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:14,680 Speaker 1: differentiation matters when it comes to taxes. And I took 750 00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:16,160 Speaker 1: it lightly and I didn't listen to my account and 751 00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:18,160 Speaker 1: I waited too long to make the switch. And he 752 00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:20,120 Speaker 1: was like, well, you know, the good news is you 753 00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:21,799 Speaker 1: made the switch. The bad news is you waited so 754 00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:24,200 Speaker 1: long you owe the government thirty thousand. I was like, wait, 755 00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:30,560 Speaker 1: Bean's thirty thousand, Wait wait duckets doc. But I can 756 00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:32,440 Speaker 1: laugh about it because at the end of the day, 757 00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:34,640 Speaker 1: I'm healthy and I'm happy, and you make mistakes and 758 00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:37,480 Speaker 1: you do better. But yeah, entrepreneurship. Like I said, I 759 00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:39,920 Speaker 1: hope that I was able to illustrate that it has 760 00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:42,319 Speaker 1: not been an easy road, but it has been so 761 00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:46,399 Speaker 1: rewarding because I decided a long time ago to live 762 00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:50,200 Speaker 1: a life of service, and when all else fails, I 763 00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:52,120 Speaker 1: have it on my wall. You are living a life 764 00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:54,040 Speaker 1: of service. So as long as I stay true to that, 765 00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:58,399 Speaker 1: then the thirty thousand dollars, the money made, the money lost, 766 00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:01,000 Speaker 1: the mistakes made, they don't mean as much as long 767 00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:03,759 Speaker 1: as I know that someone is being helped by the 768 00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:05,520 Speaker 1: fact that I have this business, and I know that 769 00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:08,160 Speaker 1: to be true, And so you know that that helps 770 00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:11,840 Speaker 1: keep me moving because money doesn't, you know, although it's great, 771 00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:15,880 Speaker 1: it doesn't. It doesn't keep you warm at night. It doesn't, 772 00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:19,840 Speaker 1: you know, like having more has it made me happier? 773 00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:23,160 Speaker 1: You know which made me happier is family and foundation. 774 00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:25,600 Speaker 1: For the longest time I was by myself. I was working, working, working, 775 00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:28,200 Speaker 1: I had no boo. I had to finally stop and say, Timmy, 776 00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:29,960 Speaker 1: what are you doing? Are you gonna be a rich 777 00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:33,120 Speaker 1: old lady alone? No kids, no boo. So I took 778 00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:34,879 Speaker 1: a step back and I said, no, I'm gonna open 779 00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:37,279 Speaker 1: myself up and now I have Superman and we're gonna 780 00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:39,319 Speaker 1: get married. And that means more to me if that 781 00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:42,520 Speaker 1: meant less money, because with I have to cook dinner 782 00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:44,319 Speaker 1: and I don't have to, but I cooked dinner. We 783 00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:47,320 Speaker 1: hang out, So that means that's less time for my business. 784 00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:50,160 Speaker 1: Could I make more if I spent less time with him, yes, 785 00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:52,719 Speaker 1: But would that make me a better person or make 786 00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:55,640 Speaker 1: me happier? No. So you know that's the part of 787 00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:57,840 Speaker 1: entrepreneurship that to me is the hardest, is the balance. 788 00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:00,440 Speaker 1: But I think you know, go for so go for 789 00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:03,560 Speaker 1: it knowing that it's not easy, and that you don't 790 00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:06,239 Speaker 1: have to be a pure entrepreneur, that you can have 791 00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:08,800 Speaker 1: your side hustles on the side until your business makes money. 792 00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:11,120 Speaker 2: I think that's really important. I mean not just to 793 00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:14,040 Speaker 2: hear the dirty behind, like the success and all that, 794 00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:17,799 Speaker 2: but just to to understand what someone went through to 795 00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:20,640 Speaker 2: achieve their success and then decide for yourself. Am I 796 00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:23,759 Speaker 2: willing to do? You know, certain things to achieve that 797 00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:27,040 Speaker 2: level of success, and it's is entrepreneurship even something I 798 00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:29,920 Speaker 2: can manage. You know, it's so difficult, it takes so 799 00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:31,480 Speaker 2: much of your life. You may not be in a 800 00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:35,120 Speaker 2: place where you can sacrifice what it takes to sacrifice. 801 00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:38,239 Speaker 2: You know, no, if you have children, if you you know, 802 00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:41,959 Speaker 2: if you have a parent, that you're caring for those 803 00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:43,880 Speaker 2: types of things. And I'm not gonna lie. A lot 804 00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:46,160 Speaker 2: of times women are the people who that those types 805 00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:50,760 Speaker 2: of responsibilities fall on. So and you know, not beating 806 00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:53,000 Speaker 2: yourself up because you know, oh, I don't own my 807 00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:55,200 Speaker 2: own business or I you know, maybe I want to, 808 00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:56,799 Speaker 2: but I can't seem to get to the next level. 809 00:37:56,840 --> 00:38:00,239 Speaker 2: Sometimes there's you know, there's there's personal things in your 810 00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:04,239 Speaker 2: life that may be maybe standing in the way, or 811 00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:06,719 Speaker 2: there's barriers standing in the way. And it's nice to hear, 812 00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:09,759 Speaker 2: Like it's nice to hear you say too that you've 813 00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:12,400 Speaker 2: made a conscious choice to sacrifice, but to an extent, 814 00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:15,000 Speaker 2: like you find you've sort of figured out what you're 815 00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:18,080 Speaker 2: comfortable with giving up and what you're not comfortable with giving. 816 00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:20,719 Speaker 1: Up, and still the trade offs that I don't know 817 00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:22,719 Speaker 1: if it's worth it. Like I'm thirty seven now and 818 00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:25,360 Speaker 1: I'm like, dang, there's a possibility I might not be 819 00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:27,920 Speaker 1: able to have kids, you know, And I'm like, Dag, 820 00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:31,400 Speaker 1: that's something that you know, I didn't. I wasn't consciously 821 00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:34,720 Speaker 1: trading in. But I'm like, yikes, I mean we're trying, 822 00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:37,200 Speaker 1: but there's no guarantee. You know, once you get past 823 00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:40,720 Speaker 1: a certain age, it's just that much harder to get pregnant. 824 00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:43,400 Speaker 1: So that's something where I have to acknowledge, like Dag, 825 00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:47,839 Speaker 1: you know, like you know, was that was it worth it? 826 00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:49,680 Speaker 1: You know? And I don't know. I mean like I 827 00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:52,200 Speaker 1: mean I never had like this huge urge until and 828 00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:53,759 Speaker 1: not even now. I mean, I want to have kids, 829 00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:55,640 Speaker 1: but it's not like you know, some women are like, 830 00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:58,719 Speaker 1: you know, they the mommy clock is ticking loud, and 831 00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:01,640 Speaker 1: for me it's ticking now, but it wasn't taking at 832 00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:04,839 Speaker 1: thirty one, thirty two, thirty five even you know. So 833 00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:07,480 Speaker 1: those are things that you have to like acknowledge that, 834 00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:09,720 Speaker 1: you know, I've learned this that you can't have it all. 835 00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:11,680 Speaker 1: Don't let people fool you into thinking you're like, oh, 836 00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:14,920 Speaker 1: I can have the you know, have everything all at 837 00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:17,920 Speaker 1: one time. That's just not really true. You know. There's 838 00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:20,480 Speaker 1: I always say there's certain levels. There's like am I 839 00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:23,759 Speaker 1: willing to work at one hundred thousand dollars level. That's 840 00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:26,840 Speaker 1: a certain level of sacrifice. Then there's five hundred thousand 841 00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:31,120 Speaker 1: dollars level sacrifice. Then there's you know, a million dollar 842 00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:33,200 Speaker 1: level side. Like I know for myself, I don't have 843 00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:35,560 Speaker 1: a billion dollar level sacrifice in me, like the level 844 00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:36,919 Speaker 1: that it would take. I was just watching the Steve 845 00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:41,200 Speaker 1: Hard Steve Jobs movie. I don't I don't for me 846 00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:43,240 Speaker 1: to get to a billion dollars the level of sacrifice, 847 00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:45,160 Speaker 1: I don't want to sacrifice that much. You have to 848 00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:48,320 Speaker 1: acknowledge that you have to sacrifice something in order to 849 00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:50,960 Speaker 1: get to certain levels, and you have to decide for yourself. 850 00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:52,880 Speaker 1: I don't know what the number looks like for me, 851 00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:57,080 Speaker 1: but I feel like I'm reaching it because I want to. 852 00:39:57,160 --> 00:39:59,640 Speaker 1: I want to at least try to have kids, and 853 00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:01,759 Speaker 1: I want to like settle in a little bit more 854 00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:04,160 Speaker 1: because I mean, like, if you know, if I make 855 00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:07,239 Speaker 1: like a million dollars a year in business, typically I 856 00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:09,480 Speaker 1: take home thirty or forty percent of that, like as 857 00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:11,719 Speaker 1: take home pay, and so I'm like, you know, three 858 00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:13,960 Speaker 1: hundred thousands is good money, girl, I'm good, Like you know, 859 00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:17,080 Speaker 1: like I don't necessarily, you know, it'd be great to 860 00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:20,160 Speaker 1: make ten million, but if it means that I don't 861 00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:22,400 Speaker 1: have kids, for sure, I'm not willing to trade that in. 862 00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:25,319 Speaker 1: And so just being very you know, conscious about what 863 00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:25,880 Speaker 1: that means. 864 00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:27,839 Speaker 2: Even just that you know you're saying that you take 865 00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:29,839 Speaker 2: in thirty to forty percent, that adds a whole other 866 00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:32,759 Speaker 2: layer of like realism to it, to the numbers, to 867 00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:35,200 Speaker 2: like what you see when people say, you know, on 868 00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:38,880 Speaker 2: my business, because I've gotten begrudgingly into that show the 869 00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:42,280 Speaker 2: profit with that guy who goes from business to business 870 00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:44,640 Speaker 2: and like helping them, Like it's just like how you 871 00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:47,319 Speaker 2: were saying, like the numbers are like I'm making good money, 872 00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:49,279 Speaker 2: but the numbers aren't adding up. What's happening? I never 873 00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:52,160 Speaker 2: see it. And he goes in and he is like 874 00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:56,120 Speaker 2: a serial entrepreneur and he helps them. He helps them 875 00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:57,880 Speaker 2: like look at their books and figure out what's and 876 00:40:57,880 --> 00:40:59,920 Speaker 2: cut the trim the fat and like get on their 877 00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:03,560 Speaker 2: you know, get on a good footing. And it's that's 878 00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:05,640 Speaker 2: been eye opening for me to see that, like you 879 00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:07,560 Speaker 2: can be making good money, but you have to be 880 00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:10,520 Speaker 2: realistic and not it's just like and it's just like 881 00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:12,640 Speaker 2: you have to tell yourself, well, I'm making this much. 882 00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:14,239 Speaker 2: But really, I'm making this much and you have to 883 00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:17,520 Speaker 2: sort of adjust to live that lifestyle, like you're not like, 884 00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:21,400 Speaker 2: if you're living your five hundred thousand dollars lifestyle, that 885 00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:24,800 Speaker 2: would be unfortunate. The Budgetiessa would be baroque. The Budgetiessa 886 00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:25,600 Speaker 2: wouldn't have a new car. 887 00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:29,399 Speaker 1: And honestly, the truth of the matter is, I'm not even 888 00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:32,680 Speaker 1: living like I venture to say, I'm living closer to 889 00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:36,799 Speaker 1: like a fifty thousand dollars lifestyle if that, and that's 890 00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:37,480 Speaker 1: something too. 891 00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:39,839 Speaker 2: Bad about myself, you know. 892 00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:43,040 Speaker 1: But to me, that's not good because I it's sometimes 893 00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:45,840 Speaker 1: you're it's hard to break the the what got you 894 00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:47,640 Speaker 1: here is not what's going to keep you here or 895 00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:49,920 Speaker 1: move you forward. And for me, I've been having a 896 00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:52,120 Speaker 1: hard time. Remember I was like, how many times did 897 00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:53,880 Speaker 1: I tell you made that? I'm like, my car broke down. 898 00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:56,680 Speaker 2: Again enough for like, come on now. 899 00:41:57,360 --> 00:42:01,640 Speaker 1: Exactly And because I was, it's not exactly. And it 900 00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:03,120 Speaker 1: wasn't because I was trying to be cute. It was 901 00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:08,960 Speaker 1: because I was stubbornly clinging onto the vehicle that brought 902 00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:10,840 Speaker 1: me here, Like but if I let that go, but 903 00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:12,799 Speaker 1: that's what got me here. But that's what you know 904 00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:15,279 Speaker 1: that that's what helped to create the environment that I 905 00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:17,640 Speaker 1: live in now as far as a successful business. I 906 00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:20,440 Speaker 1: was afraid that if I moved past that that I 907 00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:22,080 Speaker 1: was going to lose everything again and be broke back 908 00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:23,879 Speaker 1: on the couch. It's like I couldn't let that go. 909 00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:27,800 Speaker 1: And you know, finally buying the car was like tip 910 00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:30,359 Speaker 1: fund me, like I bought it cash. It was like, 911 00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:32,359 Speaker 1: I think I bought it for twenty two five twenty 912 00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:35,279 Speaker 1: two five hundred, and that didn't make a debt in 913 00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:38,040 Speaker 1: my account. But paying for that it was so hard 914 00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:40,160 Speaker 1: because I was like, oh my god, twenty two thousand 915 00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:43,000 Speaker 1: dollars switch cdcativity. What are you doing? Meanwhile, Mandy, like 916 00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:46,279 Speaker 1: literally my personal bills are under three thousand dollars a month, 917 00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:51,279 Speaker 1: my personal like RAND insurance like all like like the 918 00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:54,319 Speaker 1: business of course is different. But for Tiffany, my like, 919 00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:56,400 Speaker 1: I live off less than I would. I say, I say, 920 00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:58,279 Speaker 1: about twenty five hundred dollars a months is how much 921 00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:00,960 Speaker 1: my bills cost me. So I don't like, I'm like Tiffany, 922 00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:05,680 Speaker 1: you don't buy yourself any day. I don't. And yeah, 923 00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:08,720 Speaker 1: that's been that's been a struggle. It's being like Tiffany, 924 00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:11,239 Speaker 1: it's to the point where you're making choices that put 925 00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:13,160 Speaker 1: you in harm's way. Your car breaks down in a 926 00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:15,799 Speaker 1: random place, what are you gonna do? You know, how 927 00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:18,120 Speaker 1: is that beneficial? Spend a dag on money and get 928 00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:21,480 Speaker 1: something that's not going to put you in danger. And 929 00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:23,040 Speaker 1: so I love my car now that I was like, ooh, 930 00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:25,319 Speaker 1: it's all like it's so crazy. I'm like, wait, does 931 00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:27,279 Speaker 1: everybody have push to stop? People are like, where have 932 00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:27,719 Speaker 1: you been? 933 00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:32,439 Speaker 2: Oh, that's all your car, didn't you probably like? Yeah? 934 00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:35,239 Speaker 2: Do you have like a backward like a rear camera now, 935 00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:38,279 Speaker 2: like the camera where you can see when you're backing up? Oh, 936 00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:41,720 Speaker 2: like you're discovering the twenty first century. 937 00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:44,239 Speaker 1: Yo. I still like when I've be in the car 938 00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:46,680 Speaker 1: with Superman, I still turn around and look. He's like, Babe, 939 00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:49,880 Speaker 1: there's the backup camera. I'm like, oh there is, and 940 00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:53,720 Speaker 1: and it has park assist. I can't believe it. Like yes, 941 00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:56,600 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm telling you, it's it's fancy. It's it's 942 00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:58,879 Speaker 1: what I call affordable luxury. I did my research because 943 00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:00,439 Speaker 1: I'm like, I didn't you know, I'm I'm not looking 944 00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:03,040 Speaker 1: for a range Rover or whatever. But I wanted something 945 00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:05,040 Speaker 1: that was nice. It was gonna last me a long time. 946 00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:09,279 Speaker 1: It only had like eleven thousand miles on it, even though, 947 00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:10,680 Speaker 1: like you know, and of course I wasn't gonna buy 948 00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:12,000 Speaker 1: a brand new cars because that's just the waste of 949 00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:16,200 Speaker 1: money for depreciation purposes. And so it's a twenty fifteen 950 00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:20,200 Speaker 1: like it was just well maintained. It's black on black. 951 00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:22,840 Speaker 1: It's just honestly, I love it in that. It's so 952 00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:24,080 Speaker 1: nice to get in a car and not be like, 953 00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:28,200 Speaker 1: come on, baby, start from me, come on, start from mama. 954 00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:31,040 Speaker 2: I'm so happy for you. Actually, that's like the exact 955 00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:32,560 Speaker 2: same thing. We didn't buy the same car, but we 956 00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:36,960 Speaker 2: bought run the same price, same year, same mileage. Okay, 957 00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:39,920 Speaker 2: are we rubbing off on each other happening? 958 00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:42,719 Speaker 1: No? 959 00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:44,640 Speaker 2: Well, you need you need to send a picture so 960 00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:46,600 Speaker 2: I can put it on the on the on the website. 961 00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:48,480 Speaker 2: I'm sure people want to see you in your hot ride. 962 00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:52,640 Speaker 2: I will all this talk about balancing though, and like 963 00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:54,799 Speaker 2: you said, you can't have it all. I feel like 964 00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:57,239 Speaker 2: in this I'm gonna I'm gonna put this question as 965 00:44:57,280 --> 00:44:59,000 Speaker 2: our next question because I feel like it's like a 966 00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:01,799 Speaker 2: good representation of a lot of the questions that we 967 00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:04,359 Speaker 2: get from people, which this is not the only person 968 00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:09,120 Speaker 2: who's asked this, and the gist of it is if 969 00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:12,080 Speaker 2: I can find it again. From our listener named Angela, 970 00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:16,560 Speaker 2: she says, your podcast is wonderful. From your podcast is wonderful. 971 00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:20,319 Speaker 2: From pack Panties to politics with Mom Angela, Now you're 972 00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:21,600 Speaker 2: a loyal listener. 973 00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:24,160 Speaker 1: I forgot we kept about pack. 974 00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:27,880 Speaker 2: Honestly, I think it's nice that we forget what we 975 00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:30,640 Speaker 2: talk about, or else why we keep like the amount 976 00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:35,520 Speaker 2: of personal details in this show. Oh Lord, Pack Panties 977 00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:37,839 Speaker 2: to politics the mom. I'm doing well in my career 978 00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:40,360 Speaker 2: and I've changed positions in my company every two to 979 00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:43,440 Speaker 2: three years to climb the ladder. Respect. Do you have 980 00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:46,600 Speaker 2: any suggestions on work life balance that would include work, 981 00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:50,880 Speaker 2: working out, family, social life, and volunteerism. Thank you in advance, 982 00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:53,880 Speaker 2: so she wants to kill it at work, also have 983 00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:57,640 Speaker 2: time to work out, have a family, a social life, 984 00:45:57,680 --> 00:46:00,839 Speaker 2: and time to volunteer. When you figure that out, please 985 00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:04,200 Speaker 2: let me know and give. I will be your agent 986 00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:07,800 Speaker 2: and I will make money off of you. That is 987 00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:09,760 Speaker 2: a lot the holy Grail. 988 00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:12,359 Speaker 1: But I feel like you have better work life balance 989 00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:14,600 Speaker 1: than I do because I'm like, you know, one, you know, 990 00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:19,200 Speaker 1: you've been working out, planning this wedding, you know, working 991 00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:20,920 Speaker 1: at work and killing it, because that's that next to 992 00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:23,319 Speaker 1: your boss Nick at your wedding and they just sang 993 00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:25,640 Speaker 1: your praises and so, so, how do you do and 994 00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:28,279 Speaker 1: how have you been managing well? 995 00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:30,640 Speaker 2: Did I mention that the day after the wedding I 996 00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:35,200 Speaker 2: broke into uncontrollable sobs at a restaurant like in front 997 00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:40,320 Speaker 2: of my friends. No, I I've managed it, I would 998 00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:46,080 Speaker 2: say by prioritizing well for one thing, like working out. Yes, 999 00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:49,879 Speaker 2: I haven't. I I let me let me think how 1000 00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:51,799 Speaker 2: have I done it? Cause I don't feel like I've 1001 00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:55,440 Speaker 2: always been the greatest at balance. I think, well, one thing, 1002 00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:57,879 Speaker 2: I haven't been volunteering like I used to. Like that's 1003 00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:01,080 Speaker 2: for sure, I've been giving money to causes, but I 1004 00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:03,799 Speaker 2: haven't been volunteering like I used to, And which makes 1005 00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:06,040 Speaker 2: me sad because a lot of the people at the 1006 00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:09,040 Speaker 2: wedding that that you met and that have been my 1007 00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:13,080 Speaker 2: lifelong friends. I met doing volunteer relief after hur Kan 1008 00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:16,200 Speaker 2: Katrina ten years ago, and that was such a huge 1009 00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:19,640 Speaker 2: impact on my life. And it's the reason, you know, 1010 00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:23,759 Speaker 2: traveling alone to Biloxi, Mississippi at you know, nineteen years 1011 00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:27,239 Speaker 2: old and volunteering with a bunch of strangers. That is 1012 00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:29,560 Speaker 2: like the that gave me the courage to do pretty 1013 00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:33,400 Speaker 2: much everything I ever have done before that, traveling, moving 1014 00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:37,120 Speaker 2: to New York, meeting new people. And so I love 1015 00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:39,319 Speaker 2: to get back to volunteering. I'd love I'd love to 1016 00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:41,439 Speaker 2: feel the sense of like when you were talking about 1017 00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:44,040 Speaker 2: the sense of service and like the mission and drive 1018 00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:47,360 Speaker 2: you have for your business and helping people. I've I 1019 00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:50,120 Speaker 2: craved for that feeling too, And I would say that 1020 00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:52,319 Speaker 2: my job gives me a little bit of satisfaction in 1021 00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:55,200 Speaker 2: that regard to because being a personal finance reporter, I'm 1022 00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:57,480 Speaker 2: not like the budget neist the level of giving people 1023 00:47:57,560 --> 00:48:00,759 Speaker 2: help and helping, but we do. We are in so journalism, 1024 00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:03,160 Speaker 2: like the stories that we write that the assignments I 1025 00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:05,720 Speaker 2: do always are like how can we help people today 1026 00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:08,360 Speaker 2: in our little small way? So that is like my 1027 00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:10,600 Speaker 2: own I guess it's like my way of cheating and 1028 00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:12,760 Speaker 2: doing a job that makes me feel like I'm giving 1029 00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:14,920 Speaker 2: back and like a job that I'm good at and 1030 00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:19,279 Speaker 2: I am grateful for that. I was just talking to 1031 00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:22,440 Speaker 2: someone today about how like this, the fact that I 1032 00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:25,720 Speaker 2: get paid to write and to edit as my job 1033 00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:27,520 Speaker 2: and I can have a life like that is the 1034 00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:30,000 Speaker 2: ultimate dream if you're a creative person is to get 1035 00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:32,640 Speaker 2: paid doing what you like. So I feel a lot 1036 00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:36,120 Speaker 2: of happiness and gratitude, and that gratitude makes it possible 1037 00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:39,960 Speaker 2: for me to not mind working extra hard all the time. 1038 00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:43,160 Speaker 2: But certainly, and I also think the fact that I 1039 00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:45,759 Speaker 2: had a long planning period for the wedding. We had 1040 00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:48,360 Speaker 2: another question from someone who wanted to talk about the 1041 00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:51,359 Speaker 2: planning period for the wedding. But I'm sure you guys 1042 00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:52,799 Speaker 2: were sick of me talking about it because this is 1043 00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:56,719 Speaker 2: a long engagement. And I think giving myself time and 1044 00:48:56,760 --> 00:49:01,200 Speaker 2: like starting early and doing making all the big decisions 1045 00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:04,840 Speaker 2: right away, like the venue, the photographer, the caterer, and 1046 00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:06,680 Speaker 2: getting that stuff out of the way, and then like 1047 00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:10,759 Speaker 2: slowly building up small details over time definitely helped me, 1048 00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:14,760 Speaker 2: like manage the wedding. So the wedding wasn't that huge 1049 00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:17,239 Speaker 2: a part of my life, It definitely became like my 1050 00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:19,560 Speaker 2: entire life. The last I would say, the last month 1051 00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:22,920 Speaker 2: before the wedding, we were doing dance lessons, I was 1052 00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:26,680 Speaker 2: planning outfits with my sister. I was like planning guest 1053 00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:28,960 Speaker 2: lists and table assignments. All that crap at the end 1054 00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:33,120 Speaker 2: was insane. So the last month I haven't been the 1055 00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:35,640 Speaker 2: best balance, which is why I think I had that 1056 00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:40,280 Speaker 2: sort of like emotional release after the wedding. But luckily 1057 00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:42,000 Speaker 2: that's not like the norm. And I think that's just 1058 00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:45,360 Speaker 2: because I give myself a lot of time, like and 1059 00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:47,840 Speaker 2: I've had to learn that too. I think one of 1060 00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:49,799 Speaker 2: the biggest lessons I've learned is have gotten older, is 1061 00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:53,360 Speaker 2: to when you set goals, like, don't be unrealistic, because 1062 00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:56,560 Speaker 2: if you set an unrealistic goal with an unrealistic timeline, 1063 00:49:56,600 --> 00:49:59,000 Speaker 2: all you're setting a shelf up for is like disappointment 1064 00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:02,640 Speaker 2: and and struggle. So I would I would say I 1065 00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:05,000 Speaker 2: do that with like weight loss a lot, and even 1066 00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:07,319 Speaker 2: with career goals, Like how many times when I was 1067 00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:09,000 Speaker 2: like twenty, did I say, Well, by thirty, I'm going 1068 00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:10,520 Speaker 2: to be a millionaire and I'm going to have written 1069 00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:12,000 Speaker 2: a book and I'm going to be like, you know, 1070 00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:15,440 Speaker 2: an executive blah blah blah. And that's a crazy lofty 1071 00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:17,759 Speaker 2: goal and you know, you wake up you have to 1072 00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:19,640 Speaker 2: wake up every day and be like, hmmm, so I'm 1073 00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:22,200 Speaker 2: not an executive, I'm not a millionaire yet, like I'm 1074 00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:23,000 Speaker 2: doing everything wrong. 1075 00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:23,239 Speaker 1: You know. 1076 00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:26,160 Speaker 2: That's it's to your two being too hard on yourself, 1077 00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:28,799 Speaker 2: and the same thing with late weight loss. You know, 1078 00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:32,360 Speaker 2: my whole life, I've struggled with my body and like 1079 00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:35,160 Speaker 2: losing weight. I was really obese as a child, and 1080 00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:36,960 Speaker 2: I would always do these things where I'd be like, well, 1081 00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:38,360 Speaker 2: I'm just going to go on a crash diet and 1082 00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:40,200 Speaker 2: I had to lose forty pounds in the next like 1083 00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:43,440 Speaker 2: three months, and maybe that would work, and maybe it wouldn't. 1084 00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:46,080 Speaker 2: If it did work, it wouldn't last. And if it 1085 00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:50,160 Speaker 2: didn't work, I'd just be beating myself up. So with 1086 00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:52,279 Speaker 2: the wedding, I knew I wanted to be healthy, but 1087 00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:56,160 Speaker 2: I was not killing myself to you know, fit into 1088 00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:59,520 Speaker 2: any certain size dress or anything like that. I just 1089 00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:04,080 Speaker 2: wanted to be like a good, balanced version of myself. 1090 00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:06,840 Speaker 2: So it's it's been like a work in progress. I 1091 00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:10,480 Speaker 2: would say, I am really happy that the wedding's over now, 1092 00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:14,400 Speaker 2: because while the wedding was happening, I was taking a 1093 00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:16,440 Speaker 2: lot less time for what I really want to do 1094 00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:18,560 Speaker 2: on my side, time, which is to write a book, 1095 00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:22,719 Speaker 2: and I started writing. Yeah, I'm telling you, guys. I 1096 00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:24,839 Speaker 2: told some people before, but I'm telling you guys now, 1097 00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:29,080 Speaker 2: I've been working on a novel probably since I would say, 1098 00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:31,319 Speaker 2: when was this Christmas time. I started writing it in 1099 00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:34,040 Speaker 2: the airport in Chicago, and I'm really excited about it. 1100 00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:37,320 Speaker 2: And as the wedding kind of got crazy, I haven't 1101 00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:42,000 Speaker 2: touched this baby baby start to a book, I haven't 1102 00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:44,000 Speaker 2: touched it. And now I'm really excited to like have 1103 00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:49,520 Speaker 2: more time to dedicate to that. And as far as 1104 00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:53,600 Speaker 2: work goes, like I'm grateful to have the kind of 1105 00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:56,719 Speaker 2: job that I mean, it's a startup and there's very 1106 00:51:56,719 --> 00:51:58,800 Speaker 2: few of us, so like I'm killing myself trying to 1107 00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:00,960 Speaker 2: get prepared so that i can like leave for two weeks, 1108 00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:03,880 Speaker 2: and that is really stressful. I'm sure you can relate, 1109 00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:07,480 Speaker 2: like anytime that the budgetiesta doesn't run with the budgetiesta, 1110 00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:09,560 Speaker 2: so you if you want to take time off right, 1111 00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:11,960 Speaker 2: you have to like do the work in advance or 1112 00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:15,000 Speaker 2: figure out what's going to happen. So that's been difficult. 1113 00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:16,680 Speaker 2: But at the end of the day, I work with 1114 00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:20,840 Speaker 2: great people and they understand they understand the importance of 1115 00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:23,759 Speaker 2: you know, time off and like, you know, that sort 1116 00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:27,480 Speaker 2: of balance and that helps me too. So in a 1117 00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:30,960 Speaker 2: lot of ways, it's like, yeah, I've taken conscious effort 1118 00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:33,719 Speaker 2: to like have a balanced life. But then I've also 1119 00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:36,760 Speaker 2: been fortunate to work for someone and for a company 1120 00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:39,520 Speaker 2: that isn't trying to run my life and you know, 1121 00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:42,680 Speaker 2: work me into the ground, and that I get to 1122 00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:45,120 Speaker 2: do a job that I like doing. So I feel 1123 00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:47,000 Speaker 2: like those are two things that aren't necessarily in my 1124 00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:50,799 Speaker 2: control that I've been fortunate enough to be blessed with. 1125 00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:55,239 Speaker 1: And I didn't ask the expert because of for the 1126 00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:58,400 Speaker 1: Literature Academy, every Sunday we do ask the expert, and 1127 00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:03,680 Speaker 1: last week's expert was and he talked about creating abundance 1128 00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:06,040 Speaker 1: and balance, and he said something that actually I thought 1129 00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:10,960 Speaker 1: was like really insightful. He said that people mistaken balance, 1130 00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:14,719 Speaker 1: meaning that everything is hovering around. Like so like if 1131 00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:16,120 Speaker 1: you think about like you know, like one of those 1132 00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:20,000 Speaker 1: like a ball on a string and then the ball 1133 00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:22,680 Speaker 1: is in the middle always, that's what balance looks like. 1134 00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:26,200 Speaker 1: And he's like, no, sometimes balance is For the next month, 1135 00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:30,239 Speaker 1: I'm going to not do as much of you know, 1136 00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:33,120 Speaker 1: I don't know, volunteering but I'm gonna work on my 1137 00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:36,520 Speaker 1: wedding this month, and then once it's over, i'm gonna 1138 00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:38,520 Speaker 1: stop wedding stuff, and I'm going to volunteer. And when 1139 00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:40,560 Speaker 1: the volunteering is a little slow, I'm gonna stop that 1140 00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:43,000 Speaker 1: and work on Zoom. But when zoom, so I thought, like, 1141 00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:44,960 Speaker 1: you know what, I didn't think about that. He was like, 1142 00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:48,560 Speaker 1: you know, balance doesn't mean everything is hanging in this 1143 00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:53,680 Speaker 1: precarious position, in this perfect like alignment. No, it means 1144 00:53:53,719 --> 00:53:56,880 Speaker 1: that sometimes you're surging in one place, so meaning that 1145 00:53:56,960 --> 00:53:59,880 Speaker 1: you have to kind of save in another, you know. 1146 00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:02,839 Speaker 1: And so I'm like, oh, so it's more like it's 1147 00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:05,120 Speaker 1: like working in things in harmony that you might be 1148 00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:07,960 Speaker 1: at ten someplace that means you're one here and that's okay, 1149 00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:10,319 Speaker 1: and then you're one, you know, in that same place 1150 00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:12,239 Speaker 1: for you where you were ten, and now you're you're 1151 00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:15,520 Speaker 1: a five someplace else. And so just learning that all 1152 00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:18,600 Speaker 1: things don't have to happen at the same time that, 1153 00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:21,720 Speaker 1: you know, because it just makes you crazy. And honestly, 1154 00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:23,359 Speaker 1: I've gotten so much better. Like when I was at 1155 00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:26,120 Speaker 1: your your wedding, you know, I didn't really do that much. 1156 00:54:26,120 --> 00:54:28,799 Speaker 1: Budget needs to work because I've gotten so much better, 1157 00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:33,120 Speaker 1: which I was terrible at at letting people do what 1158 00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:35,319 Speaker 1: I've hired them to do. I used to do everybody's job. 1159 00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:37,560 Speaker 1: I got it, I got it. Oh, I got it. Yeah, 1160 00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:40,480 Speaker 1: you know. 1161 00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:44,960 Speaker 2: So it's quicker by just do it exactly. 1162 00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:46,800 Speaker 1: You're right. I used to think that, like, I wouldn't 1163 00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:48,680 Speaker 1: do it like that. So I've learned to be like, well, 1164 00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:51,840 Speaker 1: if you wanted a certain way, show them. And so 1165 00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:55,680 Speaker 1: what I've gotten good at is I like Sierra was 1166 00:54:55,719 --> 00:54:57,600 Speaker 1: like the best hire that I could have ever gotten 1167 00:54:57,640 --> 00:55:01,680 Speaker 1: because hiring her, She's hired other people who were equally 1168 00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:05,799 Speaker 1: as amazing, and so they're actually better than me at 1169 00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:08,080 Speaker 1: the thing that you know that I brought them on for. 1170 00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:10,480 Speaker 1: And so it allows me to relax, Like, Tippy, you 1171 00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:13,279 Speaker 1: don't have to worry about customer support anymore. Stop doing 1172 00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:15,760 Speaker 1: your I don't do my emails as much anymore because 1173 00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:17,320 Speaker 1: you know, I'll never make it to a brown and 1174 00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:18,560 Speaker 1: Bits and taping if it wasn't for. 1175 00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:22,680 Speaker 2: You, though, I'm like, m Tiffany wouldn't respond so politely. 1176 00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:27,640 Speaker 2: I can totally tell Siya. I'm like, hey, whoever you 1177 00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:28,759 Speaker 2: are things. 1178 00:55:30,320 --> 00:55:32,600 Speaker 1: Exactly because girl, I'll be like wait, I'm just tak 1179 00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:36,400 Speaker 1: you know, And so I have folks like knowing that 1180 00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:39,000 Speaker 1: like I could enjoy, Like I honestly could say I 1181 00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:42,080 Speaker 1: enjoyed Savannah and I checked in a little bit, but 1182 00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:45,640 Speaker 1: everything ran like a well oiled machine. They didn't need me. 1183 00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:48,839 Speaker 1: You know. I'm more and more I'm getting good at 1184 00:55:48,920 --> 00:55:51,160 Speaker 1: just doing tiffany tasks, like Okay, I'm the one who 1185 00:55:51,160 --> 00:55:52,920 Speaker 1: has to speak, you know, I'm the one who has 1186 00:55:52,920 --> 00:55:55,680 Speaker 1: to prepare the presentation. But I don't have to answer 1187 00:55:55,960 --> 00:55:58,239 Speaker 1: emails about like hey are you free on Tuesday? No, 1188 00:55:58,840 --> 00:56:01,360 Speaker 1: let let Michelle. I'll do that. I don't have to 1189 00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:03,799 Speaker 1: manage all the staff. No, that's what Sierra is for. 1190 00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:05,920 Speaker 1: I don't do the marketing piece, but but we all 1191 00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:07,879 Speaker 1: get together. Like today, I had like one on one 1192 00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:10,120 Speaker 1: calls with all the staff just to check in on them. 1193 00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:12,239 Speaker 1: So it's not like I'm just like leaving it like 1194 00:56:12,320 --> 00:56:14,960 Speaker 1: flapping in the wind. No, We're constantly in communication. But 1195 00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:18,560 Speaker 1: I've learned to part of my balance is to learn 1196 00:56:18,600 --> 00:56:20,560 Speaker 1: and let other people do what I hire them for. 1197 00:56:21,239 --> 00:56:24,120 Speaker 2: That's something that we've touched on in couple's therapy. Actually, 1198 00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:27,359 Speaker 2: I mentioned that we did like some premarital counseling. And 1199 00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:28,759 Speaker 2: by the way, I got a little text from my 1200 00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:31,440 Speaker 2: counselors saying congratulations on the wedding. That was really surreal 1201 00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:35,560 Speaker 2: for me. But yeah, honestly, I got in this really 1202 00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:39,000 Speaker 2: bad habit of being like, well, I have to do everything. 1203 00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:40,279 Speaker 2: I have to do everything, I have to do this, 1204 00:56:40,320 --> 00:56:41,960 Speaker 2: I have to do that. I'm responsible for this and 1205 00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:45,360 Speaker 2: this and that. And you know, I was sitting across 1206 00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:48,719 Speaker 2: from my you know, Enrique now my husband, and this 1207 00:56:48,840 --> 00:56:50,960 Speaker 2: therapist and they were like, wait a second, who said 1208 00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:54,400 Speaker 2: you have to do everything? Have you thought about asking 1209 00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:58,040 Speaker 2: you know, your partner for help or letting him know 1210 00:56:58,239 --> 00:57:00,399 Speaker 2: when you need something. And I'm like, well, he would 1211 00:57:00,440 --> 00:57:02,600 Speaker 2: just take too long or he doesn't know how to 1212 00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:05,239 Speaker 2: do this or blah blah blah. And I am I 1213 00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:07,879 Speaker 2: hurting myself, but I'm hurting him. It's like a lack 1214 00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:11,759 Speaker 2: of trust, a lack of well trust, you know, and 1215 00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:14,760 Speaker 2: do trust someone, but it's like a lack of like faith. 1216 00:57:14,840 --> 00:57:16,960 Speaker 2: And yes, maybe if I just let if I he 1217 00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:18,840 Speaker 2: won't cook the chicken perfectly and it might be a 1218 00:57:18,840 --> 00:57:22,920 Speaker 2: little crunchy and like the you know, the broccoli maybe 1219 00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:24,600 Speaker 2: not cooked all the way through. If I let him 1220 00:57:24,640 --> 00:57:27,080 Speaker 2: cook dinner tonight, but like, jeez, if I could save 1221 00:57:27,120 --> 00:57:29,920 Speaker 2: half an hour and eat some crunchy hard broccoli, like 1222 00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:34,080 Speaker 2: that's okay. He feels good because he's helped and I have, 1223 00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:36,680 Speaker 2: you know, have forty five minutes to take a podcast, 1224 00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:37,200 Speaker 2: you know what I. 1225 00:57:37,080 --> 00:57:41,640 Speaker 1: Mean, and we're so good, like, oh, I got it, Okay, 1226 00:57:41,640 --> 00:57:43,880 Speaker 1: I'll do it. And I'm like, you know, before you 1227 00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:46,880 Speaker 1: got here, I'll actually brush my teeth and like took 1228 00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:52,280 Speaker 1: baths on my you know, like I'm able. I don't 1229 00:57:52,280 --> 00:57:54,200 Speaker 1: know why I wouldn't think that they can't do anything. 1230 00:57:54,200 --> 00:57:55,840 Speaker 1: They're like, you know, before I got here, you know, 1231 00:57:55,880 --> 00:57:57,360 Speaker 1: I actually put on my clothes and tied. 1232 00:57:57,280 --> 00:57:59,480 Speaker 2: My own that's hard to believe. Today, I set out 1233 00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:01,440 Speaker 2: a fresh brush for him. I'm like, I set you 1234 00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:02,880 Speaker 2: a tooth and I was like, wait a second, who 1235 00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:06,160 Speaker 2: am I? He can find his own damn toothbrush. I'm like, 1236 00:58:06,200 --> 00:58:08,640 Speaker 2: do you really think he's not going to find a toothbrush? Well, 1237 00:58:08,680 --> 00:58:12,520 Speaker 2: I don't know, like you, I have to check even now. 1238 00:58:12,520 --> 00:58:14,520 Speaker 2: I'm not to check in with myself when I'm being 1239 00:58:14,520 --> 00:58:17,680 Speaker 2: a control freak. And I haven't mentioned the MVPs of 1240 00:58:17,720 --> 00:58:19,920 Speaker 2: the wedding. You know it wasn't just me, my sister, 1241 00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:24,320 Speaker 2: God bless her was everything. And my mother at the last, 1242 00:58:24,360 --> 00:58:26,480 Speaker 2: you know, the last month, my mother was like, Mandy, Hi, 1243 00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:28,480 Speaker 2: I'm your mom. Why haven't you asked me to do anything? 1244 00:58:28,520 --> 00:58:31,960 Speaker 2: I don't understand. And she's retired and I'm like, I 1245 00:58:31,960 --> 00:58:33,720 Speaker 2: don't know. I thought you were busy. She's like doing 1246 00:58:33,720 --> 00:58:38,200 Speaker 2: what I'm retired. She's dying for me to ask her 1247 00:58:38,240 --> 00:58:40,520 Speaker 2: to help her ask yeah, and on. 1248 00:58:40,720 --> 00:58:42,760 Speaker 1: The biggest day of her life, like weddings for your 1249 00:58:42,800 --> 00:58:44,800 Speaker 1: daughter are like the biggest day like this, I've been 1250 00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:45,760 Speaker 1: waiting my whole life for this. 1251 00:58:46,360 --> 00:58:48,520 Speaker 2: I would love nothing more than to go to hobby 1252 00:58:48,560 --> 00:58:51,040 Speaker 2: lobby and pick out thirty nine floating candles for you, 1253 00:58:51,080 --> 00:58:54,960 Speaker 2: because we need those. And the minute I started asking 1254 00:58:55,000 --> 00:58:57,560 Speaker 2: for help with the wedding and just gave people trusted 1255 00:58:57,680 --> 00:59:00,360 Speaker 2: and especially the day of when you really just need 1256 00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:02,680 Speaker 2: to focus on getting your head right, like my girls. 1257 00:59:02,920 --> 00:59:06,400 Speaker 2: My family really gave me that space. And so it's 1258 00:59:06,520 --> 00:59:09,200 Speaker 2: it's just a combination of things and your support team. 1259 00:59:09,320 --> 00:59:13,040 Speaker 2: I would say, I in my twenties, I really prioritized 1260 00:59:13,160 --> 00:59:17,919 Speaker 2: relationships and my career and I'm really grateful because I've 1261 00:59:17,960 --> 00:59:21,240 Speaker 2: built up these great friendships and the kind of friendships 1262 00:59:21,280 --> 00:59:24,240 Speaker 2: where when things do get out of balance, when work 1263 00:59:24,320 --> 00:59:26,680 Speaker 2: is taking over, or I may have a family, want 1264 00:59:26,720 --> 00:59:28,200 Speaker 2: to have kids, I'm not going to have to look 1265 00:59:28,200 --> 00:59:30,960 Speaker 2: around and feel alone. I'm not going to feel like 1266 00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:33,560 Speaker 2: there's not going to be anyone waiting for me or 1267 00:59:33,600 --> 00:59:35,280 Speaker 2: worrying about me, or wanting to be around me and 1268 00:59:35,320 --> 00:59:37,520 Speaker 2: hang out with me when I come up for air 1269 00:59:37,560 --> 00:59:40,240 Speaker 2: from this, because I've taken the time to build those 1270 00:59:40,280 --> 00:59:44,000 Speaker 2: relationships and I've and those were you know, and that's 1271 00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:45,840 Speaker 2: why I was so emotional off the wedding. Is after 1272 00:59:45,840 --> 00:59:47,880 Speaker 2: the wedding is just feeling all that love and that 1273 00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:50,800 Speaker 2: those you know, those friendships that we've I've been blessed with, 1274 00:59:51,560 --> 00:59:53,760 Speaker 2: but that took work, and I think it's worth it. 1275 00:59:53,840 --> 00:59:56,280 Speaker 2: I think it's worth it to spend time and make 1276 00:59:56,320 --> 01:00:00,520 Speaker 2: things happen with your friends and build that foundation. And 1277 01:00:00,560 --> 01:00:03,200 Speaker 2: that just is you know, it's just icing on everything 1278 01:00:03,200 --> 01:00:06,360 Speaker 2: else that makes me happier and and and so I 1279 01:00:06,360 --> 01:00:09,440 Speaker 2: wouldn't I definitely wouldn't discount the friendship side of things. 1280 01:00:09,520 --> 01:00:10,960 Speaker 2: A lot A lot of times we focus a lot 1281 01:00:10,960 --> 01:00:13,600 Speaker 2: on the romantic, like you know, build you know, get 1282 01:00:13,640 --> 01:00:16,120 Speaker 2: a boot, get married, you want that, you want kids, 1283 01:00:16,120 --> 01:00:19,200 Speaker 2: but like friendships, man, I mean I wouldn't be anywhere 1284 01:00:19,200 --> 01:00:23,280 Speaker 2: without my friends, and and I encourage anyone out there, women, 1285 01:00:23,360 --> 01:00:26,760 Speaker 2: men to cultivate those relationships so that you're not putting 1286 01:00:27,480 --> 01:00:29,720 Speaker 2: you know, you're not depending on just that one person 1287 01:00:30,800 --> 01:00:35,800 Speaker 2: or child for you know, your your relationship, your fulfillment 1288 01:00:35,800 --> 01:00:36,240 Speaker 2: in that way. 1289 01:00:38,320 --> 01:00:43,440 Speaker 1: Hmmm. No, I mean so much knowledge today. 1290 01:00:43,600 --> 01:00:45,400 Speaker 2: This is what you get when you ask us questions. 1291 01:00:45,440 --> 01:00:47,840 Speaker 2: Just like, where do we even start from? How we ended? 1292 01:00:48,280 --> 01:00:50,040 Speaker 2: This has been really fun though. I'm glad we took 1293 01:00:50,080 --> 01:00:51,800 Speaker 2: some time answer some questions. 1294 01:00:52,280 --> 01:00:55,240 Speaker 1: Do it again? No, I like that. I feel like 1295 01:00:55,280 --> 01:00:56,680 Speaker 1: we have to have a lot of a lot of 1296 01:00:56,760 --> 01:00:59,520 Speaker 1: DC and Q because the questions are really insightful. And 1297 01:00:59,680 --> 01:01:01,959 Speaker 1: we're happy that you guys want to ask the stuff 1298 01:01:01,960 --> 01:01:03,560 Speaker 1: because you know, who are we. 1299 01:01:05,680 --> 01:01:11,520 Speaker 2: An ambition brown ambition, right, So this will be the 1300 01:01:11,760 --> 01:01:14,320 Speaker 2: this will be Yeah, I guess this is it. I'm 1301 01:01:14,360 --> 01:01:16,800 Speaker 2: honeymooning on Friday. 1302 01:01:17,160 --> 01:01:20,080 Speaker 1: I know that's so crazy. It's so crazy to think, 1303 01:01:20,160 --> 01:01:22,960 Speaker 1: like it's gonna take me a while to like realize 1304 01:01:22,960 --> 01:01:25,040 Speaker 1: that you're married. Like that's like when people have kids 1305 01:01:25,040 --> 01:01:26,840 Speaker 1: for the first time. I remember when I finally hit 1306 01:01:26,880 --> 01:01:30,720 Speaker 1: me that my best friend Drina had a son. Like meanwhile, 1307 01:01:30,720 --> 01:01:32,080 Speaker 1: by then he was like one and he was in 1308 01:01:32,120 --> 01:01:35,480 Speaker 1: her stroller and like mama, and I was like, yo, 1309 01:01:35,880 --> 01:01:37,800 Speaker 1: that's your son. She suppsed to be like what are 1310 01:01:37,800 --> 01:01:40,360 Speaker 1: you talking about. I'm like all this time, you know, 1311 01:01:40,400 --> 01:01:42,240 Speaker 1: I've been treating it like there's there's this kid she 1312 01:01:42,240 --> 01:01:44,760 Speaker 1: always brings with her like but like no, like that 1313 01:01:44,920 --> 01:01:47,800 Speaker 1: is that is the fruit of your loins. Like I 1314 01:01:47,840 --> 01:01:50,400 Speaker 1: was like, oh my god, that is her son. It 1315 01:01:50,480 --> 01:01:52,120 Speaker 1: just takes a minute. Like when I see my sister 1316 01:01:52,200 --> 01:01:53,720 Speaker 1: with her two kids two. 1317 01:01:53,640 --> 01:01:56,680 Speaker 2: Kids now two kids, man, I. 1318 01:01:56,760 --> 01:01:59,680 Speaker 1: Know, yo, that is insane, but it's so cute to 1319 01:01:59,720 --> 01:02:01,200 Speaker 1: see this together because her son is one and a 1320 01:02:01,280 --> 01:02:04,640 Speaker 1: half and like he's the loud one and the baby 1321 01:02:04,760 --> 01:02:08,320 Speaker 1: she's a girl. She's the quiet one. And he because 1322 01:02:08,360 --> 01:02:10,640 Speaker 1: he's always so loud, they're always teaching him should be 1323 01:02:10,680 --> 01:02:13,440 Speaker 1: quiet around the baby and whispering. So he thinks that 1324 01:02:13,480 --> 01:02:14,959 Speaker 1: the only way I guess to talk to the baby 1325 01:02:15,040 --> 01:02:17,200 Speaker 1: is whispering. But he doesn't speak yet because he's only 1326 01:02:17,240 --> 01:02:19,200 Speaker 1: one and a half, and so whenever he peaks, the 1327 01:02:19,280 --> 01:02:26,920 Speaker 1: grip he goes. And it's so cute, like you could 1328 01:02:26,920 --> 01:02:28,960 Speaker 1: tell he's trying to figure out what exactly she is 1329 01:02:29,360 --> 01:02:31,600 Speaker 1: so like, you know, because it's like, wait, she doesn't 1330 01:02:31,600 --> 01:02:33,960 Speaker 1: look like me because I'm big, but she doesn't look 1331 01:02:34,000 --> 01:02:36,760 Speaker 1: like my mom and so. But he'll look at her 1332 01:02:36,800 --> 01:02:39,000 Speaker 1: hands and her feet and be like, wait, these things 1333 01:02:39,040 --> 01:02:41,240 Speaker 1: look familiar, like I have hands to be So he'll 1334 01:02:41,280 --> 01:02:45,760 Speaker 1: cuss it and saying wow, wow, it is so cute. 1335 01:02:45,880 --> 01:02:48,120 Speaker 1: It's like now I'm like, I'm like, I want a baby. 1336 01:02:48,480 --> 01:02:49,800 Speaker 2: All the ovaries are lit. 1337 01:02:50,720 --> 01:02:52,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a lit until he starts screaming at crazy 1338 01:02:52,960 --> 01:02:53,600 Speaker 1: and I'm like I'm out. 1339 01:02:56,560 --> 01:03:00,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, it is like life, man, life. I feel I 1340 01:03:00,720 --> 01:03:04,400 Speaker 2: don't feel different, but I definitely feel there was something 1341 01:03:04,440 --> 01:03:07,880 Speaker 2: I you know, I something did definitely shift with the 1342 01:03:07,880 --> 01:03:11,800 Speaker 2: wedding where and afterward where I definitely feel like God, 1343 01:03:11,800 --> 01:03:13,439 Speaker 2: I have a lot to be grateful for and life 1344 01:03:13,480 --> 01:03:15,520 Speaker 2: is good for the you know, and you know, and 1345 01:03:15,560 --> 01:03:17,280 Speaker 2: it hasn't been that way all the time or like 1346 01:03:17,280 --> 01:03:19,160 Speaker 2: in a while, but I definitely feel a sense of 1347 01:03:19,200 --> 01:03:25,640 Speaker 2: like gravity and gratitude just for everything, you know, just yeah, 1348 01:03:25,760 --> 01:03:27,600 Speaker 2: just for everything. And I feel a lot And in 1349 01:03:27,640 --> 01:03:30,880 Speaker 2: that way, I feel like a little bit older that 1350 01:03:31,120 --> 01:03:32,960 Speaker 2: I feel more as I say, you get older and 1351 01:03:33,000 --> 01:03:35,680 Speaker 2: you feel more like love and self love and self 1352 01:03:35,760 --> 01:03:38,280 Speaker 2: and self appreciation and that I can definitely feel those 1353 01:03:38,320 --> 01:03:41,680 Speaker 2: like blocks shifting into place and it feels pretty damn good. 1354 01:03:41,880 --> 01:03:44,000 Speaker 2: But I will not rest until I write that book. 1355 01:03:44,040 --> 01:03:47,160 Speaker 2: That is my goal. Good let me you know. If 1356 01:03:47,160 --> 01:03:48,640 Speaker 2: you don't hear from me, and if you don't hear me, 1357 01:03:48,640 --> 01:03:51,880 Speaker 2: mention it in a while, be like Mandy, where's that book? 1358 01:03:51,920 --> 01:03:57,320 Speaker 2: At thought bit that? But yeah, so but until then, honeymoon, honeymoon, 1359 01:03:57,360 --> 01:03:59,840 Speaker 2: first book. Later, maybe I'll write on the honeymoon. Who knows. 1360 01:04:00,000 --> 01:04:04,640 Speaker 2: Maybe I'll eat cheese all day in Italy. But by 1361 01:04:04,640 --> 01:04:07,160 Speaker 2: the time you guys hear this episode, I will be gone. 1362 01:04:07,280 --> 01:04:09,080 Speaker 2: So wish me blown viage. 1363 01:04:11,080 --> 01:04:14,240 Speaker 1: Oh oh yash, so have an awesome, awesome trip and 1364 01:04:14,560 --> 01:04:16,000 Speaker 1: I will speak with you soon. 1365 01:04:17,600 --> 01:04:22,000 Speaker 2: Okay, I can't even go that high. I cannot, I 1366 01:04:22,040 --> 01:04:22,520 Speaker 2: cannot