Speaker 1: Back then, I was really really low on myself, and
Speaker 1: it couldn't have come at a better time in my life.
Speaker 1: I want to say, I don't know how many commercials
Speaker 1: I've done in that year. It was a ridiculous amount.
Speaker 1: You got to the point where if I was walking
Speaker 1: down the street, people would go, Hi, man, I know
Speaker 1: you from uh TwixT was no, no, no, It's all
Speaker 1: of them, all them things, all those commercials. Hey folks
Speaker 1: on Lamour and Morris, and I played what Steven Spielberg
Speaker 1: has called the greatest TV character of all time. I
Speaker 1: played Winston Bishop on New Girl. Hello, dear listeners, welcome
Speaker 1: back to Off the Beat. I am your host, Brian Baumgartner.
Speaker 1: I'm so glad you decided to join me today because,
Speaker 1: my friends, I am so excited about today's guests. If
Speaker 1: you didn't catch him in Desperadoes or Woke, you might
Speaker 1: know him as New Girls prankster Extraordinary. That's right. There
Speaker 1: really is nobody like Winston Bishop, a k a. The
Speaker 1: unbelievably talented Lamourne Morris. Now, I have to tell you something.
Speaker 1: I spent this conversation with Lamourne smiling the entire time.
Speaker 1: When we were done, my cheekbones were hurting from smiling
Speaker 1: so much. Now. Just like his character, Lamourne grew up
Speaker 1: in Winston's hometown of Chicago, eventually making his way to
Speaker 1: Second City, the Second City Training Center. He is such
Speaker 1: a natural comedian and he has just some really amazing stories,
Speaker 1: from his early days working in commercials to getting cast
Speaker 1: on New Girl after Get This fifth teen auditions, by
Speaker 1: the way, I only had one for Kevin Malone. He
Speaker 1: has commitment. I have luck. Today you're gonna hear some
Speaker 1: of these stories, and you'll also hear his shocking revelation
Speaker 1: about cats. Get Ready, without further ado, please welcome my
Speaker 1: new friend and yours, Lamourne Morris, Bubble and Squeak. I
Speaker 1: love it Bubble and Squeak, Bubble and Squeaker cooking at
Speaker 1: every month left over from the Natbyfore, what's up? What's that? Dude?
Speaker 1: I'm good, right, good, good, good man. Oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: I'm such a big fan of yours. Thank you so
Speaker 1: much for coming on the show here to be very
Speaker 1: excited to have you. I hear that. Uh, well, you're
Speaker 1: you're encroaching on my space now you're in the podcast
Speaker 1: business yourself? Is that right? This is correct. We over
Speaker 1: at the New Girl headquarters. We were like, we get
Speaker 1: all these messages from fans constantly and asking questions constantly,
Speaker 1: and I find myself seeing the show being rewatched all
Speaker 1: the time with Netflix and Hulu and whoever is purchasing
Speaker 1: and buying, and we just thought, man, let's do it.
Speaker 1: And then and I didn't know it was the thing
Speaker 1: until I saw you do it, and until I saw
Speaker 1: the office lady's doing it. I saw you know, I
Speaker 1: was like, holy crap, scrub guys. I said, man, it's like,
Speaker 1: this is awesome. I didn't know I could do that.
Speaker 1: You you can, and you guys are doing it so well.
Speaker 1: I want to talk about that in a little bit,
Speaker 1: but I want to go back to the beginning. You
Speaker 1: grew up in Chicago, right, Yeah, I grew up in Chicago, Uh,
Speaker 1: South Side of Chicago. Then you know, move moved my
Speaker 1: way around a little bit, so South Side of Chicago
Speaker 1: then West Bourbs of Chicago. That's kind of where I
Speaker 1: figured out my sense of humor and things that I
Speaker 1: love to do is just having like the best and
Speaker 1: worst of both worlds. But you stayed true to your
Speaker 1: South Side roots. You're a big white Sox fan. I
Speaker 1: understand White Sox. Yes, you know, I wouldn't say big
Speaker 1: White Sox fan. I I there are five world series.
Speaker 1: I do want to take full responsibility for that. I was.
Speaker 1: My first ever TV commercial was a White Sox commercial.
Speaker 1: And the year they won, yeah, yeah, the year they won,
Speaker 1: and I know it was because of me. I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna I'm not gonna give any love to any of
Speaker 1: the players. Let's just be honest. They didn't do it.
Speaker 1: They didn't do it before I did the commercial, they
Speaker 1: didn't do it after. No, just only the year that
Speaker 1: you you were advertising for them, working for them, exactly,
Speaker 1: you were a part of exactly. And I've been trying
Speaker 1: to let other sports organizations know that. You know, hey,
Speaker 1: I'm a good luck chall you know, give me courtside seeds,
Speaker 1: let me do the commercials, and I promise you a championship.
Speaker 1: All right. Back to your your childhood in Chicago, first
Speaker 1: job working for the White Sox in a way, what
Speaker 1: made you interested in theater or in comedy and how
Speaker 1: early did that start for you. There's a couple of
Speaker 1: a couple of things, you know. It could have been
Speaker 1: something passed down through generations. My mom was very funny.
Speaker 1: I didn't really follow that itch, but she did some
Speaker 1: theater back in the day. She writes poetry, so she
Speaker 1: writes she's very My mom was a very creative person,
Speaker 1: but never really followed that that passion. I met my
Speaker 1: grandfather for the for the first time when I was playing,
Speaker 1: like ten years ago. Meeting him was so interesting. I
Speaker 1: moved to California. He lived in California and he was
Speaker 1: half blind, you know, tiny man sitting in front of
Speaker 1: his small TV and he was watching the Dodgers game.
Speaker 1: And I said, oh, you like baseball, and he's got
Speaker 1: one eye like this, and he goes, he goes, yeah,
Speaker 1: but me can only watch half the game. And then
Speaker 1: he stares at me like this. I thought, oh, half
Speaker 1: the game because he's got one eye. And I said, oh,
Speaker 1: that's pretty funny. And then the rest of the day
Speaker 1: was just preceded by so many jokes, like dad jokes,
Speaker 1: funny jokes, and talking like sharp jokes. And then it
Speaker 1: started to hit me like, man, that maybe that maybe
Speaker 1: passed down. You know, I got a very funny family,
Speaker 1: you know, an island family from from Belize. So I
Speaker 1: always had it in me to perform when I was
Speaker 1: a kid, I used to mock the preacher at church,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And I didn't know why,
Speaker 1: but I would just mimic him all the time. And
Speaker 1: I played basketball growing up, and once I got cut
Speaker 1: from the basketball team is when I realized, Okay, one,
Speaker 1: I'm not as good as I thought I was, but two,
Speaker 1: I need to fill this void with something. And so
Speaker 1: there are auditions for theater and choir, and so I
Speaker 1: auditioned for both, got in and fell in love with
Speaker 1: it immediately, and I couldn't like stop doing it, and
Speaker 1: I just thought it was like something I was doing
Speaker 1: in the meantime. I didn't really truly realize that I
Speaker 1: could make a career out of it until I was
Speaker 1: sent to detention one too many times and the woman
Speaker 1: in detention said, hey, you should really figure out which
Speaker 1: want to do after you graduate and kind of harness
Speaker 1: this energy that you have, and so she gave me
Speaker 1: a pamphlet for Second City. Once that happened, it was like,
Speaker 1: oh boy, this is this is it for me? You know.
Speaker 1: I started doing theater and college and Second City at
Speaker 1: the same time, and I was addicted to it. I
Speaker 1: would literally go wait tables for just enough money for
Speaker 1: food and for train fare just to get tech the
Speaker 1: city back to the Bourbs and move around like that.
Speaker 1: And I fell in love with it. You know, that's
Speaker 1: that's gotta be. Where it started. It was always in me,
Speaker 1: but once I was left with no other options, and
Speaker 1: it was kind of like, I'm gonna fast forward a
Speaker 1: little bit. It was almost the same as I got
Speaker 1: so broke in l A. I was auditioning, but I
Speaker 1: wasn't looking anything, and I didn't know why. I thought
Speaker 1: I was pretty talented, said man, you know, I was
Speaker 1: in Second City and I did all these things, and
Speaker 1: I was like, man, I can't get a job to
Speaker 1: save my life. And I was running late for an audition.
Speaker 1: I was so late, car was reboked. I borrowed a
Speaker 1: friend's car. I get there and I was forced to improvise,
Speaker 1: like I just made it up. I didn't read the
Speaker 1: script the sides at all. I get in there and
Speaker 1: they said, did you read the side? I say, yeah, yeah, yea, yeah, sure.
Speaker 1: I just kind of glanced around, and once I made
Speaker 1: everything up. I guess it was refreshing to them that
Speaker 1: day because everyone was just sticking to the script. And
Speaker 1: they booked me on the spot, I just said, man,
Speaker 1: you gotta trust your instincts and go with your skill set,
Speaker 1: go with the thing that you train doing and you're
Speaker 1: passionate about doing, which was in profit time, and I
Speaker 1: was left with no choice. And how was it? Wow?
Speaker 1: So much of what you just said is fascinating to me.
Speaker 1: My entree, I guess into performing into theater specifically for me,
Speaker 1: was very much the same. I wanted to be a
Speaker 1: professional baseball player. That was what I was gonna do.
Speaker 1: So for you, it was basketball. I had an injury.
Speaker 1: This was a very long story, but basically I was
Speaker 1: left a very active kid who didn't have a place
Speaker 1: to put his focus and found theater and much the
Speaker 1: same as well. I didn't see it as a career.
Speaker 1: I saw it as something that I was doing. A
Speaker 1: very smart guidance counselor gave you a pamphlet to Second
Speaker 1: City that so did you? You started taking classes there?
Speaker 1: Is that how it started for you at Second City? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I started taking classes there. They had a program called
Speaker 1: brown co. I remember Second City there was an initiative
Speaker 1: I want to say, Keegan Michael Key started this initiative
Speaker 1: with homanym Diana Griffin out in Detroit, Second City, Detroit,
Speaker 1: where to get more black audience members, black and brown
Speaker 1: audience members, because there were none. And it was like, well,
Speaker 1: why are there none? It's like, well, because there no
Speaker 1: black and brown performers, and so we're like oh. I
Speaker 1: was like, oh, let's let's go. Let's go and let's
Speaker 1: open the doors. Let's go figure out where where real
Speaker 1: these folks are. And so they started scouting, going to colleges.
Speaker 1: You know, I was doing this um this comedy group
Speaker 1: with a guy named Chris Woski, and we were in
Speaker 1: this group and he blew my mind with how he
Speaker 1: was performing, and I just thought, man, this is amazing.
Speaker 1: Like let's just go big and go broad and just
Speaker 1: get weird on stage. And so I started doing that
Speaker 1: and I really found my niche for sketch comedy. They
Speaker 1: had come to see me perform and asked me to
Speaker 1: come audition. That was how it worked out for me.
Speaker 1: I already knew I wanted to go there, you know,
Speaker 1: I knew that was going to be the trajectory, but
Speaker 1: I was, you know it. It helped that they paid
Speaker 1: for me to go. I got a scholarship there. Otherwise
Speaker 1: I couldn't afford it. Wow, So for you was it?
Speaker 1: Was it improv like? That? Was it? It was making
Speaker 1: people laugh performing in that way at the time. Yeah,
Speaker 1: at the time, you know, even though I even though
Speaker 1: at the same time I was studying was studying traditional acting,
Speaker 1: different techniques in theater school. You know, how to break
Speaker 1: down a character, how to analyze the script, those types
Speaker 1: of things. I was doing a ton of that, a
Speaker 1: lot of scene work. But there was something about just
Speaker 1: showing up and not knowing what the hell is gonna
Speaker 1: happen and using your instincts with your friends on stage
Speaker 1: that sat with me a lot more. And then it's
Speaker 1: a very useful tool obviously when you know, you know,
Speaker 1: when you're on set, you gotta make stuff up from
Speaker 1: time to down. You know what I mean? Uh, you
Speaker 1: save the writer or save yourself? Yes, no, I understand exactly.
Speaker 1: So what made you move to Los Angeles? Did you
Speaker 1: stay and try to work in Chicago? Obviously you booked
Speaker 1: up a White Sox commercial, So did you start working
Speaker 1: professionally in Chicago? I started working professional in Chicago. I
Speaker 1: did a couple of commercials, actually did two White Sox commercials.
Speaker 1: The first one was the baseball and it was me
Speaker 1: and the first baseman, Paul Knirko, and then the second
Speaker 1: one was at McDonald's White Sox and Cubs commercial with
Speaker 1: Bobby Jenks and Rob Belushi. So it was it was
Speaker 1: a pretty fun time on set for those spots. But
Speaker 1: then in Chicago, the opportunities aren't as I'm not sure
Speaker 1: how they are now, but back then it was just
Speaker 1: commercial work. You know, it'd be rare if you got
Speaker 1: a movie or a TV opportunity there, but it's just
Speaker 1: commercial work. B Et came to town, you know, looking
Speaker 1: for on air personalities, and I didn't really know what
Speaker 1: that was, to be quite honest with you, I just knew, oh,
Speaker 1: this could be the thing. This is it's TV and
Speaker 1: there it's a TV host. I guess that's kind of
Speaker 1: the same thing as acting, is it. I had no idea.
Speaker 1: I had no idea. I just gave it a shot.
Speaker 1: All my friends auditioned for it. I auditioned, and I
Speaker 1: booked it, and I had to move to New York.
Speaker 1: This is hot wired. This is hot wired. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: I got to have some fun with that because the
Speaker 1: head of BT at the time was a guy named
Speaker 1: Reginald Hudland. Reginald Hudland. For folks out there who might
Speaker 1: not know, his college thesis project was House Party. So
Speaker 1: he made that movie in college, and you know, and
Speaker 1: he's a second city guy, producer, director, want a Family,
Speaker 1: Django producing, He's he's awesome guy. But he understood my
Speaker 1: sense of humor the moment I showed up and gave
Speaker 1: me a job there and wanted me to be myself
Speaker 1: and be silly and be weird. So I was hosting
Speaker 1: for a while and then I just you know, I
Speaker 1: was missing out on a lot of acting opportunities, so
Speaker 1: I moved to l A, which was a weird transition,
Speaker 1: going straight from hosting to quit and cold turkey and
Speaker 1: trying to dive into traditional you know, how do I
Speaker 1: get an agent? How do I you know, I haven't
Speaker 1: acted in a while. What do I do? What's the process? Like,
Speaker 1: I'm in a whole new there's marijuana out here? How
Speaker 1: what do I do about this marijuana that's here? I
Speaker 1: can't stop, I can't. It was a lot of stuff
Speaker 1: going on that that made it difficult for me to
Speaker 1: get a job. Yeah, both internal and external. Oh yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: And that's why I made that move. That's why I
Speaker 1: made that transition. But that takes balls, right. I mean,
Speaker 1: like you have a job, Bob, You're working in entertainment,
Speaker 1: you're hosting, but you just want you wanted to pursue
Speaker 1: more traditional acting, character creation, improv and you just a
Speaker 1: was the place you needed to be. And I think
Speaker 1: back then it was it was the place. You know.
Speaker 1: Obviously nowadays, you know, once the pandemic happened to open
Speaker 1: their eyes to a lot of things. People are moving,
Speaker 1: people are leaving l A constantly. I mean, I'm still here,
Speaker 1: but you know, back then, it was like if you
Speaker 1: want to act, if you want to you know, do
Speaker 1: it full time. This is the place you have to be.
Speaker 1: This is where the best of the best is. This
Speaker 1: is where the opportunities are. And it was difficult, to
Speaker 1: be quite honest with you, it was really difficult. I
Speaker 1: would drive my friends to auditions sometimes at big studios,
Speaker 1: and I would drop them off and I would kind
Speaker 1: of just linger around the studio, just kind of going,
Speaker 1: this is crazy to me, Like this is you know,
Speaker 1: walking around a lot without a pass, you know, looking
Speaker 1: at look at that other actors driving pass on golf cards, going, man,
Speaker 1: you got a golf cart. Too, like, this is crazy.
Speaker 1: I fell in love with the magic of it. There's
Speaker 1: still something very magical about it. And I just knew.
Speaker 1: I just said, man, I can't leave until I can't
Speaker 1: leave until I'm on a golf cart, until you have
Speaker 1: your own golf cart exactly. So you were doing commercials too, right,
Speaker 1: You had quite a bit of success in commercials when
Speaker 1: you moved to l A. Oh yeah again. The start
Speaker 1: of it in l A was that audition, and I
Speaker 1: got lucky because that casting director kept calling me in
Speaker 1: for things after that, and it was such a blessing
Speaker 1: to my life. I mean, I went from having negative
Speaker 1: eleven dollars in my bank account to looking like seven
Speaker 1: that week, and you know, traveling internationally for commercials, getting
Speaker 1: commercial offers. I was like, this is crazy to me.
Speaker 1: That kind of resparked my faith in myself. You lose
Speaker 1: a lot of steam, you lose a lot of faith
Speaker 1: in yourself and your ability, and you get down on
Speaker 1: yourself and you're not working and it's um and it
Speaker 1: still happens, you know what I mean, still happens now,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. They're like, damn, you know,
Speaker 1: I miss out in certain jobs or it goes a
Speaker 1: while without working, and back then I was really really
Speaker 1: low on myself and it couldn't have come at a
Speaker 1: better time in my life. I want to say, I
Speaker 1: don't know how many commercials I've done in that year.
Speaker 1: It was a ridiculous amount. He got to the point
Speaker 1: where if I was walking down the street, people would go,
Speaker 1: how do man, I know you? From? Uh TwixT? Was no, no, no,
Speaker 1: all of them, all of them. It was all those commercials.
Speaker 1: A friend told me a story about Keenan every wayains
Speaker 1: did Damon told me. They think either Damon Wayne's Jr.
Speaker 1: Told me the story or Marlon I forget. Someone told
Speaker 1: me the story where Keenan was watching some sports game
Speaker 1: or whatever, some football game or something, and then a
Speaker 1: commercial I come on. He said, damn this that this
Speaker 1: dude is on every commercial. And then the next commercial
Speaker 1: that popped up was a different commercial that I was in.
Speaker 1: Said that he threw his will control the TV. I
Speaker 1: don't know how true that is, but I just remember
Speaker 1: hearing that. It would be so excited that keen and
Speaker 1: every way and to knew who I was, even if
Speaker 1: he hated me, even if he was annoyed. But yeah,
Speaker 1: that's amazing. Yeah, commercials, So when you're starting out, I mean,
Speaker 1: especially back then, you could make some real money and
Speaker 1: keep your career going and like you said, get some
Speaker 1: confidence and also get some experience on set, right, Because sure,
Speaker 1: you could say live shows are more difficult. It's you know,
Speaker 1: there's more pressure you're on stage. But you know, I've
Speaker 1: talked about this with a lot of people, but it's
Speaker 1: worth at least to me saying again how difficult that
Speaker 1: experience is on set of a movie, of a TV show,
Speaker 1: of a commercial, that experience of shooting something experience is
Speaker 1: so important, right, Oh, yeah, absolutely, you know the basics.
Speaker 1: I've been on set with people who are just who
Speaker 1: are really talented, but this is their first project, you know,
Speaker 1: and they couldn't hit their mark to save their lives.
Speaker 1: They don't understand how to take direction a note from
Speaker 1: a director. I don't understand how fast pace we're moving there.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of things that you just get innately
Speaker 1: when you're doing You do so many commercials, and you
Speaker 1: when you finally get that opportunity, you're you're used to it.
Speaker 1: You're used to a hundred people running around, you, used
Speaker 1: to putting makeup on your face constantly and doing touch
Speaker 1: ups and all this stuff where you're trying to think
Speaker 1: of your lines and it becomes a muscle. You become
Speaker 1: so used to it, you know what I mean. It
Speaker 1: got to the point now, it got to the point.
Speaker 1: I remember being a new girl and you'll be talking
Speaker 1: to your same partner in between takes or maybe running lines,
Speaker 1: and there's so many people touching you that you have
Speaker 1: know just someone someone literally has their hands in your pants,
Speaker 1: you're not face and sometimes different people a person and
Speaker 1: the sound person coming in one angle and going down
Speaker 1: the other angle exactly, and Jake Johnson that I think
Speaker 1: it was, wasn't Max with Jake, can't forget who was.
Speaker 1: We would walk up behind that part, we put our
Speaker 1: hands behind their in their pants too, and see if
Speaker 1: they noticed it. And they never would it never would.
Speaker 1: It just started like literally playing with the butt cheeks
Speaker 1: and they're just like, doesn't they have no idea who's
Speaker 1: playing with the butt cheeks right now? But that's something
Speaker 1: you gotta get used to. That's something that that happens.
Speaker 1: You know, it could throw you could be very jarring
Speaker 1: if you your first day on set. That's true, speaking
Speaker 1: of a new girl, I have been told you auditioned
Speaker 1: many times fifteen? Is that correct? Yeah? I could be
Speaker 1: off by one maybe maybe maybe before fourteen or sixteen
Speaker 1: it was. I think it was three or four times
Speaker 1: for the Coach character and then the rest for the
Speaker 1: Winston character. It was a grueling process. It's a story
Speaker 1: that you could write about when you're teaching people, how
Speaker 1: the process goes, and how unpredictable it is, and how
Speaker 1: there's no one way to get a job. I went.
Speaker 1: I auditioned for the Coach character, like a lot of
Speaker 1: the other actors did, didn't book it. In fact, I
Speaker 1: think my audition was so weird to them. I want
Speaker 1: to say. I dressed up in tight shorts and did
Speaker 1: the whole thing. I took the script too literal, and
Speaker 1: they were like, it's too much. So then they keep
Speaker 1: auditioning people. Then they asked me to come back just
Speaker 1: minus the get up, please put put on regular people clothes.
Speaker 1: And simultaneously I had the same day, I had an
Speaker 1: audition for a CBS pilot called The Assistance with t J. Miller,
Speaker 1: Heather Locklear, Sarah Right, David Henry. It was really cool
Speaker 1: multicamp show, and I got passed on by casting for
Speaker 1: that after my first read, because the casting assistant who
Speaker 1: was reading with me kept dropping lines, and so I
Speaker 1: had these big chunks of monol dogs and whenever she
Speaker 1: would drop a line, it would fast forward me to
Speaker 1: two scenes ahead and I would be so off what
Speaker 1: she was saying that they passed on me. And I
Speaker 1: told my agent, I said, listen, I need to get
Speaker 1: back in there in an audition. I said, I guarantee
Speaker 1: you I'll book this. I said, I know this is
Speaker 1: this is a perfect character for me. You just gotta
Speaker 1: get me in. It was her fault, said, it wasn't
Speaker 1: my This is the assistance is yea, And they get
Speaker 1: me into They get me into this, back to for
Speaker 1: the assistance. Then I get a phone call saying that
Speaker 1: they want me to test for New Girl now for
Speaker 1: the coach character. And I said, okay, great. So then
Speaker 1: they bring me back into read for the assistance, but
Speaker 1: this time with the producers, and so they stopped me
Speaker 1: halfway through my audition. I get through most of the audition,
Speaker 1: and they stopped me halfway through my audition, and then
Speaker 1: I thought, oh, maybe it was me. Maybe I was
Speaker 1: just bad. And then they go we hear you're testing
Speaker 1: for New Girl tomorrow. I said, yeah, can we ask
Speaker 1: you to tank that audition that I said, what, yeah,
Speaker 1: because they really wanted me for the assistance. Remember I
Speaker 1: just got passed on for the assistance. You got passed
Speaker 1: on from the assistance. You're halfway through reading it and
Speaker 1: you think, oh god, I have been terrible. But actually
Speaker 1: reading halfway through, they already know they want you. Yes,
Speaker 1: this is incredible. And so I go home that day
Speaker 1: and I have this dilemma. Two shows that I'm about
Speaker 1: to test for paying roughly around the same money. You know,
Speaker 1: it wasn't it was my first TV job. It wasn't
Speaker 1: about the money at that point. But and I'm with
Speaker 1: my buddy Ramsay, this good friend of mine, rams is
Speaker 1: him and as talented actor and Chad Boseman, God rest
Speaker 1: his soul. He was. He was like a mentor. Obviously
Speaker 1: he was in the business and he knew what to do.
Speaker 1: And he he said, hey, man, you have to do
Speaker 1: the job that fulfills you the most, whether you get
Speaker 1: it or not. You don't want to live with saying,
Speaker 1: you know, you didn't shoot your shot. I test for
Speaker 1: New Girl while I'm at I go to the test
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I go to the test for New Girl.
Speaker 1: I'm sitting in the courtyard. I get a call from
Speaker 1: my agent saying, don't sign that contract because now CBS
Speaker 1: has canceled their test and said we want to just
Speaker 1: make you a straight offer and pay you more money. What. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And so my agents advice was bird in the hand,
Speaker 1: take the job. So I took this the CBS offer.
Speaker 1: We tried to get a New Girl to make me
Speaker 1: an offer. They didn't want to. They didn't go with
Speaker 1: their tests. They don't find anybody. They then hired Damon
Speaker 1: Wayne's Jr. Thinking his show Happy Endings wasn't going to
Speaker 1: get a second season. Exactly my show Assistance doesn't get
Speaker 1: picked up after the pilot. After the pilot, Happy Endings
Speaker 1: gets picked up for a second season, so Damon has
Speaker 1: to go. So now I'm thinking, hey, guys, hey remember
Speaker 1: me the guy walked that on your test, Like, can
Speaker 1: you bring me back him? And they loved Damon so much,
Speaker 1: has performance so much. If you watch the pilot, he's fantastic.
Speaker 1: They wanted to keep that and not redo it, so
Speaker 1: they had to rewrite another to write another character in people.
Speaker 1: A lot of people say, oh, a black guy swap.
Speaker 1: This is just he's a black dude. You're stopping another
Speaker 1: black dude. It was no, it was it was like
Speaker 1: it was open to any ethnicity. I mean a lot
Speaker 1: of folks read for it. You name it, every ethnicity,
Speaker 1: you know, size, age. It was kind of like they
Speaker 1: didn't know what they wanted. That's why I had to
Speaker 1: read so many times. It was constant changing of the sides,
Speaker 1: dynamics with character structured you know, status and my the
Speaker 1: koy one. Am I the boss of the group? Am
Speaker 1: I the shot? You know who? Am I? So it
Speaker 1: took a while. That's why I was that many auditions. Crazy.
Speaker 1: That is crazy. That has never happened to me. I
Speaker 1: have never been sitting at the courtyard at Fox or
Speaker 1: wherever you were and told no, someone else just made
Speaker 1: you an offer, walk out on this test. That's amazing.
Speaker 1: Did you go in and tell them or did you
Speaker 1: just leave? That's why I want to know I walk
Speaker 1: into the room and say I'm sorry, I've just got
Speaker 1: another offer, or did you just get in your car
Speaker 1: and drive away? Almost almost I was walking to the
Speaker 1: room when my phone started vibring. My my agent said
Speaker 1: keep your phone on. I was walking with the casting
Speaker 1: director Seth Yanklewitz, and uh, either you walk into you
Speaker 1: signed that. You signed that paper, And before I did it,
Speaker 1: I looked at him and I said, it's my agent.
Speaker 1: And he knew right away he did, he knew. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I loved you, Seth. I'm sorry I did that to
Speaker 1: you in that moment. But it worked out. Look at us,
Speaker 1: Look at us now. It worked out exactly. It worked out.
Speaker 1: You end up joining in the second episode, right, because
Speaker 1: they wanted they wanted the pilot to air as shot.
Speaker 1: Is that right? Yeah, exactly, And that was weird. I
Speaker 1: gotta say for the first two seasons, I didn't know
Speaker 1: if I was being fired or not. I'll admit I wasn't.
Speaker 1: We weren't writing necessarily for my strength because we didn't
Speaker 1: know my strengths yet. We didn't know that dynamic would.
Speaker 1: We would try certain things and test certain things. He
Speaker 1: just wasn't working. Maybe maybe he's jobless, maybe he's uh,
Speaker 1: you know, he gets a job as an usher or
Speaker 1: a babysitter. We were trying all these things, and then
Speaker 1: that became aim the game, a little bit of the character,
Speaker 1: and then I started playing into that more, doing bits
Speaker 1: off camera with the other actors. They started to realize
Speaker 1: the writers, I gotta say writers on a New Girl
Speaker 1: geniuses because they would look at the bits in between
Speaker 1: stuff and figure out what was funny. They impro improvised stuff,
Speaker 1: and they would go, let's tailor it towards that, and
Speaker 1: they would write the most ridiculous stuff from my character
Speaker 1: and it worked and I loved it. Every every episode
Speaker 1: felt like a sketch comedy show to me because I
Speaker 1: didn't know what character trait I had that week. And
Speaker 1: you know, one week, my character is a professional, former
Speaker 1: professional basketball player. The next week he has thin fingers
Speaker 1: and he can't carry anything. Next week he constantly has
Speaker 1: directions for some reason. It's like, what, So it was funny.
Speaker 1: It was fun. It was a fun fun show to
Speaker 1: do for sure. After the second season for me, when
Speaker 1: you felt like they figured out who you were and
Speaker 1: we're able to play into what you felt like your
Speaker 1: strength was. Yeah, And once I knew I wasn't gonna
Speaker 1: get fired, I was just more comfortable going to work
Speaker 1: every day. It's like, Okay, why don't you think you
Speaker 1: were going to be fired? Was there anything specifically that happened?
Speaker 1: I thought I was under performing to be quite honest
Speaker 1: with you, I knew what I was capable of doing,
Speaker 1: but I would leave fit every day going I didn't
Speaker 1: do what I wanted to do. And they don't know
Speaker 1: that I have this weird energy that I could perform
Speaker 1: at this level that I could perform at I don't
Speaker 1: think they I don't think I've done it yet. And
Speaker 1: I would watch the episodes back and sometimes that cringe
Speaker 1: at him, and I don't know if that's that's any good.
Speaker 1: It's very insecure. I was extremely insecure, and you know,
Speaker 1: my cast mates, obviously in the producers would kind of
Speaker 1: reassure me, like, you're not going anywhere, but you know,
Speaker 1: I know how this business is, you know, and and
Speaker 1: they were very gracious to give me a lot of
Speaker 1: room to grow. I think we're all glad it happened
Speaker 1: that way, because it was just another piece too. I
Speaker 1: think otherwise Perfect asked, everybody on the show is clicking
Speaker 1: on all cylinders from day one, and I was trying
Speaker 1: to find my footing. Yeah. I feel like there's in
Speaker 1: a lot of ways a similarity between the Office and
Speaker 1: New Girl in terms of this sort of disparate collection
Speaker 1: of characters that are that find themselves together and form
Speaker 1: this sort of pseudo family in a way, right is
Speaker 1: that is that a stretch not a stretch at all,
Speaker 1: Not a stretch at all. It's like, no matter what
Speaker 1: office you go into to them in that office there
Speaker 1: this you have a story about a guy who acts
Speaker 1: this where oh I know this woman, she behaves this way,
Speaker 1: and you wouldn't believe it until you saw it, you know.
Speaker 1: And then the office is a heightened version of what
Speaker 1: people can identify with all the characters on the show.
Speaker 1: And I think that's the same way with New Girls.
Speaker 1: That people they have these people who live together, and
Speaker 1: everyone has a story about my roommate does this, or
Speaker 1: he wears a kimono at night and you don't know, no,
Speaker 1: he doesn't. And then you watch New Girl and you
Speaker 1: people go, look that's about me, you know. You know,
Speaker 1: it's a weird group of people that have a common bond,
Speaker 1: and you know, and they and they stick it out
Speaker 1: and they stick together. And I think the reason why
Speaker 1: our shows resignated is because and lasted for so long,
Speaker 1: is because people at home felt connected to the characters. Right, No,
Speaker 1: for sure, when did you realize that the show was
Speaker 1: taking off? It was gonna, you know, after you after
Speaker 1: you found your own personal security in terms of your
Speaker 1: job security, when did you feel like you're gonna, we're
Speaker 1: gonna be around for a while. Do you remember was
Speaker 1: there a moment, there were a few I gotta say,
Speaker 1: once people started knowing my name on the street because
Speaker 1: people people always, they still to this day, called me
Speaker 1: Winston from Winstay. It's constant. But the moment people would
Speaker 1: go Mr Morris, let more la more getting get a photo,
Speaker 1: and I thought, my god, they looked up my name
Speaker 1: like they they know people are invested in It's like
Speaker 1: sometimes you watch a TV show and then you'll just
Speaker 1: go onto the next. Some of my favorite shows, I
Speaker 1: couldn't tell you the actor's real names. You know. Now
Speaker 1: I can't be you know, because we're in the business now.
Speaker 1: But like it's one of those things where you're walking
Speaker 1: on the street, somebody says your name and it hits
Speaker 1: you like, my goodness, that's what they know me from.
Speaker 1: I must it must be working. And when you would
Speaker 1: read I'm not supposed to read comments, but I read them.
Speaker 1: And when you see so many, whether they're good or bad,
Speaker 1: I go there's a conversation around an episode that we
Speaker 1: did there, you go, oh, people care, people are actually invested.
Speaker 1: Then you see fan fiction you know about about your showing,
Speaker 1: You're like, whoa, people are disgusting but also invested. Yes, um,
Speaker 1: have you ever played true American? I have American? Yeah,
Speaker 1: but on the accident kind of I was. It was
Speaker 1: a party going on in Hollywood and we walked past
Speaker 1: it and you know, people recognize me and they were like,
Speaker 1: you'll never believe what we're doing over here. We're playing
Speaker 1: to American. And I reached out to the guy. We
Speaker 1: exchanged Instagrams afterwards, and I've been I've been talking to
Speaker 1: him lately, like where are the photos that I'm in?
Speaker 1: He's like, I was trying to keep you out of
Speaker 1: him because I didn't want to be that guy would
Speaker 1: be a paparazzi guy while your party. But I even
Speaker 1: posted some photos of my instagram back then. They were
Speaker 1: literally having a full on true American party in their
Speaker 1: front yard. That's amazing, like standing on chairs, doing DIBs
Speaker 1: and you know, screaming JF carry after. It was a
Speaker 1: whole thing, which also blew my mind till this day.
Speaker 1: It still blows my mind. A drinking game with no rules.
Speaker 1: You know, Yes, I went in prepera this is not
Speaker 1: a joke. I was like, oh yeah, that true American,
Speaker 1: and I got online to try to ascertain and figure
Speaker 1: out what the rules were. Reading the description of True American,
Speaker 1: by the way, A drinking game from New Girl left
Speaker 1: me more confused, and I thought that I was to
Speaker 1: start with. So I don't know if that's a good
Speaker 1: thing about that, but that's that's the point. That's the point,
Speaker 1: because if they're all those beers, you're gonna be confused
Speaker 1: and in the night you're gonna Why did I do this? Why?
Speaker 1: I one of the things that happened on the office,
Speaker 1: it was intentional. Greg Daniels, our showrunner, had come from
Speaker 1: Saturday Night Live, and from the very beginning he felt
Speaker 1: like the ensemble experience was incredibly important. But the ensemble
Speaker 1: experience not just amongst the actors, amongst everyone, and so
Speaker 1: he had writers who were actors and actors who were writers,
Speaker 1: and I know a New Girl, you guys had a
Speaker 1: similar experience. You wrote an episode, you directed an episode.
Speaker 1: Was that you or was that a part of the
Speaker 1: culture you you feel like that that was created on
Speaker 1: the show A little a little of both Liz Mayweather
Speaker 1: is very She asked a lot of questions and loves
Speaker 1: hearing stories about personal life and incorporating things that you
Speaker 1: may have done. And you know, that testament to all
Speaker 1: the writers as well. They just you know, they want
Speaker 1: to know, and they all know and knew that I
Speaker 1: had aspirations to direct and to write. You know, I
Speaker 1: would always have ideas on set as actors were always
Speaker 1: pitching ideas, character storylines. My whole, the whole Winston being
Speaker 1: a police officer was my idea, and then writing the
Speaker 1: episode came because of that. The episode that I wrote
Speaker 1: was about my character being being new to the force
Speaker 1: but then meeting this woman that he really liked and
Speaker 1: was vibing with, and then she finds out that she's
Speaker 1: protesting the police, and so he's like, oh, so he's
Speaker 1: now doesn't know if he's ashamed to be a cop
Speaker 1: or if he's proud to be a guy. He doesn't know.
Speaker 1: And so because because he's a black police officer, you know,
Speaker 1: so he's like, uh wait, you know, and that came
Speaker 1: from Twitter. So on the show, my character is named Ferguson.
Speaker 1: At the time, there was a lot of civil unrest
Speaker 1: based off what happened in Ferguson and people started tweeting me.
Speaker 1: They were like, oh, how's it feel to play a
Speaker 1: black cop with a cat named Ferguson in these times?
Speaker 1: And I was like, God, damn it if I get
Speaker 1: one more tweet about this, and people started really asking
Speaker 1: me questions went from being funny two serious, like, na, brother,
Speaker 1: you gotta speak up. What do you think about this?
Speaker 1: And it's like, I'm just an actor, but okay. Uh
Speaker 1: So I went to Liz Maryweather because I genuinely started
Speaker 1: feeling uncomfortable. I asked her if I could address it
Speaker 1: on the show, and so she said, why don't you
Speaker 1: write an episode? So she paired me with Rob rose
Speaker 1: l one of our fantastic writer producers, and we came
Speaker 1: up with an episode and we addressed it in in
Speaker 1: a way, you know, a very Network TV funny kind
Speaker 1: of way, but we still put some light on it
Speaker 1: and what could possibly go through the police officer's head
Speaker 1: in that moment. He doesn't meet someone like that, you know,
Speaker 1: in these times that we're living in. So that was
Speaker 1: the reason why I wrote that one, but it was
Speaker 1: for her. It was like, please do it. And then
Speaker 1: directing they just asked, Hey, do you want to direct?
Speaker 1: Damn right? I do? Yeah, And that was easy. I was.
Speaker 1: I want to say it's easy. The process was a
Speaker 1: lot more difficult than I thought it would be. But
Speaker 1: on set everyone was so everyone except for Max s Greenfield.
Speaker 1: Everyone besides Max Screenfield was so kind. Max. Max was
Speaker 1: intentionally a dick. Yeah, yeah, I had that too, Rain Wilson. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it makes it just it just to make it,
Speaker 1: just to make a diymmical. Yeah, just take that whatever
Speaker 1: the little, maybe the teeniest amount of insecurity you might have,
Speaker 1: and just just twisted in. Yep it oh it. Even
Speaker 1: though you know they love you and they're messing with you,
Speaker 1: it's still it works. What they're doing is working. I'm
Speaker 1: getting more and more insecure as the day goes on.
Speaker 1: I'm like my in over my head. You brought up Ferguson.
Speaker 1: Are you a cat guy? Um? This is gonna disappoint
Speaker 1: a lot of people. No, in fact, hell no, you know,
Speaker 1: I I don't mind. I don't mind cats anymore. When
Speaker 1: I was younger, my buddy used to have a bunch
Speaker 1: of cats, and one of them, when it was a kitten,
Speaker 1: he said, oh, it's buttercut hold Buttercup. I said, oh, hey,
Speaker 1: Buttercup is so adorable. And we just got through playing basketball,
Speaker 1: so I had no shirt on. Buttercup goes and attaches
Speaker 1: to my chest and slides down and cuts up my
Speaker 1: chest on its way down. Because it was too fast,
Speaker 1: you didn't see it coming. You couldn't stop this attack
Speaker 1: if you tried. Cats are super quick and sneaky. I
Speaker 1: don't trust them, at least with dogs. They're loud and
Speaker 1: you know they're coming. You know they're coming. This one
Speaker 1: cats and I watched Pet Cemetery and it was the
Speaker 1: scary film. Yeah, so now I don't I don't think cats.
Speaker 1: Is there a thing that fans talk to you about
Speaker 1: the most? Is there a moment from New Girl that
Speaker 1: people talk to you about the most? There's a couple Ferguson,
Speaker 1: for sure. You know I'm joking, but cats are like
Speaker 1: incredible creatures. So people that cat people out there that
Speaker 1: I love to talk about Ferguson, But I would probably
Speaker 1: say one of the moments that people always bring up
Speaker 1: is Prince. You know, we had prints on our show
Speaker 1: for an episode, and that to me was one of
Speaker 1: the more significant moments in my just my life. You know,
Speaker 1: being on camera with Prince and being around him backstage
Speaker 1: and or off camera and just talking and having him
Speaker 1: share stories and having him just Prince showed up to
Speaker 1: our rap party, which was crazy. That's awesome, It's super awesome.
Speaker 1: And I said to I said, hey, you don't stick
Speaker 1: around for a while, and he looks at me giggles. Goodness,
Speaker 1: no question done, get out of here. I don't think
Speaker 1: i've ever shared this story before. I would say the
Speaker 1: most quintessential Hollywood, you know when you put Hollywood in quotes,
Speaker 1: Hollywood moments of my entire life. I don't remember the event.
Speaker 1: It was some pre award show event at Chateau Marmont,
Speaker 1: the famous Chateau marm at this point in my time,
Speaker 1: and I didn't even know there were bungalows at the
Speaker 1: Chateau Marmont. And by the way, if you're listening, there
Speaker 1: are bungalows at the Chateau Marmont. Some of these bungalows
Speaker 1: are very nice, and at least one bungalow has a piano.
Speaker 1: And something happened very late at night was someone said, oh,
Speaker 1: come into this bungalow. And I went into this bungalow
Speaker 1: and there was Prince sitting at the piano playing Get
Speaker 1: the Chateau MArmand, and I thought, okay, well this is
Speaker 1: it for me. This this is the moment. This is
Speaker 1: the Hollywood moment that you know, I never thought would come,
Speaker 1: but that has has suddenly brought itself here. So I
Speaker 1: don't know exactly the experience of working with him or
Speaker 1: hanging out with him, but how cool and amazing he is. Yeah. Oh,
Speaker 1: you walk into a room and Princes playing the piano.
Speaker 1: You know you've made it, or at least you've been
Speaker 1: invited somewhere where somebody's made it exactly. You're you're at
Speaker 1: the table, a kind of at the table. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: an incredible run a new girl. Now you guys are
Speaker 1: going back, as we talked about at the beginning, welcome
Speaker 1: to our show. You're rewatching it now in real time, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm looking at it in real time right from where
Speaker 1: I'm sitting. I have a tem be back here. I
Speaker 1: watch it. I take notes, I I do. I dive
Speaker 1: back in and it's interesting. I find myself instead of
Speaker 1: taking notes, I find myself laughing as a fan because
Speaker 1: I didn't get a chance to truly enjoy it. While
Speaker 1: it was on because you know, it's airing, we're filming.
Speaker 1: It's airing, we're filming. Now. It's like I could go
Speaker 1: and binge it and forget that I'm supposed to be
Speaker 1: taking notes. You know. It's a it's a It just
Speaker 1: reminds me of a beautiful time in my career. Not
Speaker 1: to say it's not great now, but you know, then
Speaker 1: it was like I was younger and I was care
Speaker 1: care free, I had you know, I was on the
Speaker 1: television show just show it up. You know, I got
Speaker 1: kid Now, I got I got responsibilities. Does it bring
Speaker 1: you back to the moments of shooting it as you're
Speaker 1: rewatching it? Absolutely, I don't know how it feels to you.
Speaker 1: When I'm watching it, I forget about some of I
Speaker 1: have to remember some of the like negative moments. I
Speaker 1: tried to because I want to write those things down,
Speaker 1: like that was something that was bugging me that day,
Speaker 1: Like I can't remember, you know, and I try to
Speaker 1: think about the negative stuff, but you can't because the
Speaker 1: editors do a good job and making me look happy
Speaker 1: on those days. But uh, it definitely takes me back
Speaker 1: to to that time. This is gonna sound Oh, this
Speaker 1: sounds cheesy, you know what I mean. So I'm not
Speaker 1: that guy, but it definitely puts a warming sensation in
Speaker 1: your belly. It's like Christmas when Santa comes out the chimney,
Speaker 1: or your drunk neighbor, the guy who shows up, you know,
Speaker 1: the guy who'll doing your mom's Christmas black come here? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I know. I during the pandemic, I went back and
Speaker 1: rewatched the Office as well, and it's interesting, you know,
Speaker 1: for us, a lot of the episodes, you know, we
Speaker 1: were doing quite a bit of improving and stuff, and
Speaker 1: the first edit would come back at like forty three minutes.
Speaker 1: For me, the thing that struck me the most was
Speaker 1: taking me back to the moments where we were when
Speaker 1: we were shooting it, and then also remembering what actually
Speaker 1: made the cut, like what is actually a part of
Speaker 1: from a narrative now you know, or what what got
Speaker 1: you know that that's itself like what got cut? Or
Speaker 1: yeah I know that For me, that was it. Do you?
Speaker 1: You obviously haven't gotten and your rewatch to the finale,
Speaker 1: any specific memories for you of your last days on
Speaker 1: set or your last day Oh my gosh, oh my god.
Speaker 1: It was such a surreal moment. It was mixed feelings.
Speaker 1: I still think about it a lot of time when
Speaker 1: you watch it. They did such a great job of
Speaker 1: capturing how we are actually feeling. You know, our finale
Speaker 1: is us leaving our loft. You know, we're standing in
Speaker 1: there in this loft playing True American, and then we
Speaker 1: end up we fast forward on the show to us
Speaker 1: having kids, playing True American with kids, and then we
Speaker 1: rewind back to us in being this empty loft. Now,
Speaker 1: on that day when we were shooting, I remember behind
Speaker 1: camera they all showed up, all the writers are there,
Speaker 1: everyone was there, and everyone was emotional. It was very
Speaker 1: except for Jake Johnson. I think actually he left immediately
Speaker 1: He's like peace, Uh, but it was we were all
Speaker 1: It was a very emotional time. You know, you spend
Speaker 1: you know, seven years on a television show and you
Speaker 1: get to know so many people and your it's a
Speaker 1: true family. You spent so many hours with each other.
Speaker 1: I remember us being on that this empty box and
Speaker 1: this empty loft going like they're clearing out the stage
Speaker 1: for real, They're not gonna put props back in here.
Speaker 1: It's actually empty. It was. It was an unbelievable feeling.
Speaker 1: They saved the last moment for our last day. They
Speaker 1: did it right, you know, you know, and fans will
Speaker 1: and fans don't know. Just then then they find out
Speaker 1: that it was all just a big prank by me,
Speaker 1: which was my character was like, oh, we didn't have
Speaker 1: to move out the loft. Look at this kind of
Speaker 1: leaves the door open for a reunion, you know, but
Speaker 1: who knows. That's awesome. Um April eight woke, it's back
Speaker 1: for season two. By the way, I saw, JB Smooth
Speaker 1: is on it. So is it now in your contract
Speaker 1: that everything you do has to have JB Smooth? Or
Speaker 1: or maybe everything he does has to have you, or man,
Speaker 1: it has to I can't go a day without talking
Speaker 1: to j B. I can't. I love that dude so much. Man,
Speaker 1: he's so funny when I tell you so, directing him,
Speaker 1: he plays my quote unquote father and new girl, and uh,
Speaker 1: I got a chance to direct him, and you know
Speaker 1: it's not really directing him. He kind of jab gonna
Speaker 1: do a JB Gonna do. It was so funny. The
Speaker 1: way he improvises has me in tears. You don't want
Speaker 1: to cut anything. I can give you a story about JB.
Speaker 1: We were doing barbershop actually when we were in barbershop together.
Speaker 1: You know, you do a table read, you pretty much
Speaker 1: stick to the script so the writers and everybody can
Speaker 1: see what works, you know, changing roads whatever. That's the point, right,
Speaker 1: just to see what works. I'm a table read is
Speaker 1: that you read the words that were written, so you
Speaker 1: see what works. Yes, that's correct, Go ahead, that's the point.
Speaker 1: J B goes. JB just goes left. I mean he
Speaker 1: added maybe five minutes of dialogue to this one particular scene.
Speaker 1: And I tell you the writers were like, bingo added
Speaker 1: it to the movie. His character in the movie now
Speaker 1: has this huge art, like this big that was way
Speaker 1: more than it was on the page, and it's brilliant.
Speaker 1: It was. It was almost like they left it intentionally
Speaker 1: because they knew JB was going to do something with it.
Speaker 1: And when I say in tears at the table read,
Speaker 1: then him and Sad with the entertainer started improvising together,
Speaker 1: going back and forth, roasting each other, improvising full on
Speaker 1: jokes to each other at the table read, and I
Speaker 1: just thought this is gonna be crazy, and I and
Speaker 1: I and that's how it was on set, and I
Speaker 1: was like this, if I could do barbershop for the
Speaker 1: rest of my life. I'll do barbershop for the rest
Speaker 1: of my life. So yeah, that that's just one story
Speaker 1: about JB of many that where you go, hey man,
Speaker 1: the lines are, oh another quick story. I'm sorry. I
Speaker 1: was sorry. I was pitching something and I needed JB
Speaker 1: to like send a funny little clip. I said, just
Speaker 1: like ten seconds anything you want. But in this parameter
Speaker 1: he sends to me, I think at eight minute video,
Speaker 1: I say, he's just like, hey man, So here you're
Speaker 1: pitching the show man. Look, man, look when you're pitching
Speaker 1: the show, anytime you go in there, what you want
Speaker 1: to do is you want to wrap toilet paper around
Speaker 1: your hand. You see, just have a just have a
Speaker 1: whole bunch of toilet paper on your hand. So you
Speaker 1: get there and and you get there to your to
Speaker 1: your pitch, They're gonna go, what the hell is he
Speaker 1: doing with toilet paper in his hand? See already you're
Speaker 1: throwing them off unmer staying I'm looking at the toilet paper.
Speaker 1: You see what I'm saying, He goes, Or what you
Speaker 1: wanna do is you wanna have the meeting real early,
Speaker 1: like five thirty am. It's like just every butt crack
Speaker 1: of Dawn. Just have a real early pitch meeting, and
Speaker 1: you go in there and you sit down and just
Speaker 1: have a pocket full of loose grapes, just loose grapes,
Speaker 1: and just every once in a while when you're talking
Speaker 1: to you're talking, just Papa, loose grape in your mouth,
Speaker 1: welcome me, bearscome me Bear's work. And then he goes, oh,
Speaker 1: and about all these things you need to do. So
Speaker 1: amazing the tears. It's like, Dab, I just want you
Speaker 1: to say, I a doors this show. Oh gosh, you
Speaker 1: are the best. Thank you so much. Woke. That's right,
Speaker 1: April Amen, Season two premier. Have you had fun doing that? Absolutely? Absolutely?
Speaker 1: The cast on this show, the creators of the show,
Speaker 1: I mean, the best group of folks. Um. You know,
Speaker 1: we got Sishi's and made a Blake Anderson T. Murph
Speaker 1: this season. We got Amy Garcia on the show. You
Speaker 1: named Miguel Piso, Marky Degings, we got Billy magnuson this show.
Speaker 1: This season. I'm telling you, folks would be really really shot,
Speaker 1: often pleasantly surprised, you know, with what they're going to see,
Speaker 1: you know, just creating this kind of weird environment talking
Speaker 1: about certain things that are kind of political, but you
Speaker 1: leave it so open ended. You're following the lens of
Speaker 1: a guy who doesn't know which way who he is politically.
Speaker 1: You're following his view and you're like, hey, that's kind
Speaker 1: of how I am. Like, Oh, you know, in the
Speaker 1: world of misinformation and left or right or whatever the
Speaker 1: hell you want to be on he's that person. He's like,
Speaker 1: I don't know, you know, I think a lot of
Speaker 1: people will resonate with this character and what he's going through.
Speaker 1: So I'm excited for folks to see it. Awesome, Well,
Speaker 1: I cannot wait to see it as well. You are hilarious, engaging,
Speaker 1: such a pleasure to actually talk to you. Thank you
Speaker 1: so much for coming on. Man, you as well, Man,
Speaker 1: you as well. I'm a huge fan, dude. I think
Speaker 1: you're hilarious and and that, and I'm super like honored
Speaker 1: that you would have me on your show. So I man,
Speaker 1: I really do appreciate it. Thank you so much. Urn,
Speaker 1: It's like I've always known you. Thank you so much
Speaker 1: for joining me today on the podcast. This was truly
Speaker 1: my pleasure. To the rest of you, I'm gonna see
Speaker 1: you next week for another episode of Off the Beat.
Speaker 1: In the meantime, make sure to like, subscribe, comment you
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Speaker 1: also tune into La Mourns podcast. Welcome to our show
Speaker 1: because us podcasters we gotta stick together until next time. Everybody,
Speaker 1: have a great week. Off The Beat is hosted an
Speaker 1: executive produced by me Brian Baumgartner, alongside our executive producer Langley.
Speaker 1: Our producers are d A Go Tapia, Liz Hayes, Emily Carr,
Speaker 1: and Hannah Harris. Our talent producer, He's Ryan Papa Zachary.
Speaker 1: Our theme song Bubble and Squeak performed by my great
Speaker 1: friend Creed Bratton, and the episode was mixed by seth
Speaker 1: Olandski