1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,480 Speaker 1: You're not always going to stay on the top and 2 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:04,840 Speaker 1: you're not always going to be at the bottom. So 3 00:00:05,040 --> 00:00:07,440 Speaker 1: you have to be grateful when you're on the top, 4 00:00:07,840 --> 00:00:09,640 Speaker 1: and then you have to be hopeful for when you're 5 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:24,240 Speaker 1: at the bottom. 6 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 2: Hey, everyone, Emily Abati here coming to you with episode 7 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 2: one ninety one from the AG Studio. You are listening 8 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:35,839 Speaker 2: to Hurdle, a wellness focus podcast. Reconnect with everyone from 9 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 2: your favorite athletes to top experts and industry CEOs about 10 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 2: their highest highs, toughest moments, and everything in between. We 11 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:46,560 Speaker 2: all go through hurdles in life, and my goal through 12 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:49,920 Speaker 2: these discussions is to empower you to better navigate yours 13 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:53,160 Speaker 2: and move with intention so that you can stride towards 14 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 2: your own big potential and of course have some fun 15 00:00:57,120 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 2: along the way. For episode, I am chatting with Gabby Butler. 16 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:05,759 Speaker 2: She's a cheerleader and star of the Netflix series Cheer, 17 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 2: which debuted. 18 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:08,959 Speaker 3: Its second season just a few days ago. 19 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 2: As someone who may be liked some of you totally 20 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:16,319 Speaker 2: totally binged Cheer season one, I was after this opportunity 21 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 2: to get to know Gabby better. We talked about everything 22 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 2: from how she first got into sport and where she 23 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:25,680 Speaker 2: gets her work ethic from to the most difficult parts 24 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 2: of the last two years, living through a pandemic, including 25 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:33,119 Speaker 2: a major bombshell during production her co star Jerry Harris's 26 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:34,199 Speaker 2: arrest on. 27 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:35,759 Speaker 3: Child pornography charges. 28 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 2: She also tells me about her newfound closer relationship with God, 29 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 2: what that looks like these days, and how it's helped 30 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 2: her stay the course during some of these tough times, 31 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 2: plus the surprising truth about when she gets to watch 32 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 2: the series and how she feels about the way that 33 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 2: she and her family. 34 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 3: Were portrayed in season one. Loved this combo. 35 00:01:56,920 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 2: I'm now officially a bigger Gabby Butler and I am 36 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 2: excitic to bring it to the feed. Before we get 37 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 2: to it today, I want to make sure I shout 38 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 2: out the Hurdle Instagram. I want to make sure that 39 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 2: you are following it over at Hurdle Podcasts, and I 40 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 2: know there are wonderful humans listening to this who have 41 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 2: never reviewed and rated the show. So take just a 42 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:23,520 Speaker 2: few seconds wherever you are listening to this podcast. 43 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 3: If there is an. 44 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 2: Option to rate it, give it five stars, or maybe 45 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 2: there's a max of ten stars. 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Last little bit of housekeeping here, I would 50 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 2: love to answer a question that you may have on 51 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:53,240 Speaker 2: an upcoming episode of the show, specifically on five Minute Friday. 52 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 3: So if you have one for me, I am all ears. 53 00:02:56,600 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 2: All you've got to do is click the link in 54 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:01,679 Speaker 2: the show notes that says leave me a voice message. 55 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 2: I will get the voice message, I will answer the 56 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:06,960 Speaker 2: voice message, I will answer your questions. It's all gonna 57 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:11,800 Speaker 2: be great. Go ahead, leave me one right now. And 58 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 2: with that, let's get to hurdle it. 59 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 3: Today. 60 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 2: I am sitting down with Gabby Butler. Gabby Butler, I'm 61 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:32,079 Speaker 2: so excited to have you, how are you doing today? 62 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:33,800 Speaker 4: I am doing great? How are you? 63 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 3: I'm so good? 64 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 2: I have to know how that this is about two, 65 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 2: This episode's coming out. I think it's like four or 66 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 2: five days after the season two premiere of Cheer. How 67 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 2: are you feeling in this moment right now? It's kind 68 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 2: of like the calm before the storm. 69 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, so I'm definitely very excited to see season two. 70 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 1: I haven't seen it yet. I get to see it 71 00:03:56,600 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 1: when basically everyone else gets. 72 00:03:58,160 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 4: To see it. 73 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 1: But honestly, I'm excited for you guys to kind of 74 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 1: like get an idea of what we, like what happened 75 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 1: during the seasons of us, like during COVID and then 76 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 1: having to come back from it and all the obstacles 77 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 1: we had to get over, and then just in general, 78 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 1: like I'm excited for you guys to meet like the 79 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 1: new people that get brought into it, and also just 80 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 1: get an inside glimpse of like what we basically went 81 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 1: through for the past two years. 82 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 2: Talk about a lot of hurdles, right you having to 83 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:31,920 Speaker 2: navigate COVID in the midst of like just trying to 84 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 2: perform well, talk about the mental toll with us that 85 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 2: COVID really took on all of you guys, especially your sport. 86 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 3: So many people typically in a small space. 87 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:46,359 Speaker 1: COVID definitely through I think not just only cheerleaders, but 88 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:51,040 Speaker 1: like everyone in the world was like freaking out, panicking, 89 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:51,839 Speaker 1: like what's going on? 90 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 4: What's going on? 91 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:55,280 Speaker 1: Like we I've never in my life like dealt with 92 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 1: something like this, And honestly, it was so scary because 93 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:02,799 Speaker 1: of the uncertainty and like, just it's very eerie and weird, 94 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:05,920 Speaker 1: Like it was just a very weird time. So I 95 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 1: was definitely, you know, I was devastated when they canceled 96 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:13,719 Speaker 1: the twenty twenty season, just because we worked so hard 97 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 1: the whole entire year to basically get up to that 98 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:19,839 Speaker 1: point at the very end, and we were about to compete, 99 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:21,599 Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden it was like, Okay, 100 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 1: well you know this is happening, and you guys are 101 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:26,279 Speaker 1: no longer able to compete. 102 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:30,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, and then cheerleading looking because of the pandemic so 103 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 2: much different than it had in years prior. So in 104 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 2: that environment, what did it start to look like for 105 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 2: you when you couldn't practice exactly like you used to? 106 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, that was definitely. 107 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:45,280 Speaker 1: It was just so weird because I'm like, well, I'm 108 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:47,719 Speaker 1: used to going to cheer practice every day, I'm used 109 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 1: to a regiment, and I'm used to this certain schedule, 110 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 1: and then for it to just completely stop, I had to, like, 111 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:56,720 Speaker 1: I mean, I had to change the way I did everything, 112 00:05:56,920 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 1: like and I wanted to make sure that during COVID 113 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 1: I was staying in good shape because I knew that 114 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 1: we wanted to continue doing another year after this whole 115 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:09,719 Speaker 1: thing happened, and I was like, I need to make 116 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 1: sure that I'm ahead of the game and I'm doing 117 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:15,359 Speaker 1: everything I need to do to make sure I'm in 118 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:19,160 Speaker 1: the best shape physically, in shape and good to go. 119 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 1: Like I wanted to make sure I was mentally ready 120 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:25,919 Speaker 1: to go too, and I really took a step back 121 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 1: and really tried to improve myself during quarantine. I would 122 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 1: say I did a lot of self improvement during quarantine 123 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 1: for sure. 124 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:38,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, can we talk about what that looked like for you? 125 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:41,239 Speaker 4: You can always grow as a person. 126 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:43,480 Speaker 1: I don't think you can ever reach like, oh, I'm 127 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:46,479 Speaker 1: at the perfect point in my life. Like I feel like, 128 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:49,480 Speaker 1: no matter what, you can get better, Like every day 129 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 1: you can make something better. And I think everybody in general, 130 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:55,480 Speaker 1: like we can do better, like in whole, Like as 131 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 1: a whole, you could be like the sweetest person, but 132 00:06:57,360 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 1: there's always one little thing you can improve on. So 133 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 1: I definitely tried to like just be like more, you know, 134 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 1: love self love, Like I think self love is so important, 135 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 1: And I think that like knowing who you are and 136 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 1: also like understanding what you want in life and just 137 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 1: being confident in who you are is like the most 138 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 1: important thing, and the way that you look at yourself 139 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 1: is so important, you know, like you have to love yourself. 140 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 4: And one thing that I actually haven't told. 141 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 1: Anyone, I grew a very very strong relationship with God 142 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 1: actually over that entire thing while that was happening, because 143 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 1: I felt so stressed out and I felt like something 144 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 1: was always missing. And I've always like believed in God, 145 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 1: and I've always had like you know, like not really 146 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 1: like a super close relationship, but I've always like just 147 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 1: you know, he's been a part of my life, but 148 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:54,240 Speaker 1: not as the. 149 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 4: Way he was over Quarantine. 150 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 1: Like I felt like I my relationship with God was 151 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 1: very much like very very strong, and I felt like 152 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 1: a completely different person when I started to kind of 153 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 1: just like yeah, just like give my life like to 154 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 1: God and like trust in him and like really really 155 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 1: just let go of all the stress and anxiety. I 156 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 1: feel like He's been a very big part of my 157 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 1: life since Quarantine, since after twenty twenty, and I feel 158 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 1: like my life has really changed for the positive, and 159 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 1: I feel like a much stronger person. 160 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:33,840 Speaker 2: I think it's also really beautiful in that you were 161 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:36,959 Speaker 2: saying letting go a little bit. I think that many 162 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 2: people over the pandemic had to get to a place 163 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 2: where they were a lot better right with letting go 164 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 2: and being okay with the fact that there are going 165 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 2: to be things in life that we cannot control, and 166 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 2: you have the choice to be frustrated and angry about 167 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 2: those things, or you can just do the best you 168 00:08:56,679 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 2: can with what you have. And it seems as though 169 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:02,719 Speaker 2: through your reliefationship with God and getting a little bit 170 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 2: more deep on that that maybe that was something you 171 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 2: came to learn over the last twenty or so months. 172 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:11,720 Speaker 1: Absolutely, and I think that that was the missing piece 173 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:15,679 Speaker 1: for me. I think that it's so important to have 174 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:17,680 Speaker 1: God in your life because I feel like a lot 175 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 1: of the stress and anxiety and depression that people get 176 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 1: is because it's you know, it is at that piece, 177 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 1: that piece that they're looking for. And it's like, for me, 178 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 1: my experience was just it was insane, Like I got 179 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:37,560 Speaker 1: baptized actually in my pool, literally like on Easter Sunday, 180 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:40,439 Speaker 1: and I it was like one of the most unforgettable 181 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 1: experiences that I've ever had. It was just it was 182 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 1: such a beautiful like moment and even though a lot 183 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 1: of people couldn't be there, Like it's something that I 184 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 1: will never forget because the feeling that I had it 185 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 1: was just so like amazing, Like I can't I get 186 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:57,200 Speaker 1: chills thinking about it, because I felt like my whole 187 00:09:57,280 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 1: body was just like electrified with like this amazing like 188 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:03,479 Speaker 1: energy and it was beautiful. 189 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:06,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's really beautiful that you're finding these beautiful 190 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 2: moments in silver linings in a time that many again 191 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 2: struggle to find these joys when things are not as 192 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:18,360 Speaker 2: they had hoped or expected. You mentioned not having a 193 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 2: lot of people that you had hoped could be there 194 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 2: not be there, but still like to be able to 195 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:26,440 Speaker 2: find those small joys is so so important, and I 196 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 2: mean talking about flexing that muscle, about finding the silver linings. 197 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:33,079 Speaker 2: You mentioned the hurdles that you had to conquer going 198 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:35,319 Speaker 2: into twenty twenty and going into twenty twenty. 199 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 3: One with Navarro. 200 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:40,480 Speaker 2: Another hurdle that you all conquered together was the national 201 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:43,200 Speaker 2: coverage of what happened with Jerry. So talk to me 202 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:47,560 Speaker 2: about how you have managed to get through that, not 203 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 2: just as an individual but together as a team. 204 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, so that entire like I mean as a team, 205 00:10:56,480 --> 00:11:00,720 Speaker 1: that was definitely one of the hardest opsticles I think 206 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 1: we had to overcome and get over because you know, 207 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:08,439 Speaker 1: we knew the Jerry that you all saw in season one, 208 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 1: like that was the Jerry that we saw every single day. 209 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:16,960 Speaker 1: It was just this ray of light and it was 210 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:20,319 Speaker 1: like someone who could pick you up when you felt down, 211 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:24,080 Speaker 1: make you laugh when you were sad, or you know, 212 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 1: reach that lending hand when you were down and you 213 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:31,319 Speaker 1: needed it. It was the most devastating thing that I 214 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:34,959 Speaker 1: that had happened in that whole entire like series. It 215 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:39,560 Speaker 1: was something that was very emotional for all of us. 216 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:45,079 Speaker 1: And the allegations that are basically being made against him. 217 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:48,200 Speaker 1: I don't condone in any way, shape or form, but 218 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 1: I also do you know, there is that side of 219 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 1: me that has those memories that I had with him, 220 00:11:56,200 --> 00:12:00,960 Speaker 1: and it was nothing but loving and genuine and like true, 221 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:04,840 Speaker 1: like pure happiness. So it's like it was just very 222 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 1: hard for me to grasp my head or it was 223 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:09,720 Speaker 1: hard for me to wrap my head around any of 224 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 1: it because I'm like, there's no way, there's no way, 225 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:16,959 Speaker 1: and I you know, he's his case is still open 226 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:21,320 Speaker 1: in court, so I'm really being like super aware of 227 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:23,559 Speaker 1: that and also just like trying to like I'm just 228 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 1: staying really really hopeful. And also I'm just yeah, like 229 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 1: I cheerleading should absolutely be a safe spot for everyone 230 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 1: in the sport, and I definitely just want to hold 231 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 1: on to like the good memories and the good times 232 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 1: that I did have with him. 233 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 2: And I mean you talking about cheerleading being a safe 234 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 2: sport or should be a safe sport for all. When 235 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 2: you first got involved in cheer did you find it, 236 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 2: as I would say, like and thralling and as exciting 237 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 2: as you have come to love it right now? Talk 238 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:57,080 Speaker 2: to me about getting into the sport at the get go. 239 00:12:57,640 --> 00:13:00,840 Speaker 1: So it's actually so fun because a lot of people 240 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 1: don't actually ask me like, hey, like how was it 241 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 1: when you first joined? And obviously like you got to 242 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:11,400 Speaker 1: start somewhere. But when I first joined, I was like 243 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:13,199 Speaker 1: the worst one on the team. 244 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:14,240 Speaker 4: I sucked. 245 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:17,960 Speaker 1: My mom would always lead like my mom was like 246 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:20,080 Speaker 1: if you if I had to go down the line, 247 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 1: you were the worst one on the team. Like I'm 248 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:25,840 Speaker 1: gonna say it straight up. And one thing that I 249 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 1: do have is drive. 250 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 4: I have drive, and. 251 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:32,720 Speaker 1: I also work really really hard. So my work ethic 252 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 1: is like I will not stop until I am at 253 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:41,679 Speaker 1: the top. And I think that's something that has carried 254 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:44,839 Speaker 1: like throughout my entire life, Like no matter what I'm doing, 255 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 1: I always want to make sure I'm thriving in anything 256 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 1: that I do. I'm super competitive, a healthy competitive, but 257 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 1: I am very competitive and I like to I like 258 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:58,440 Speaker 1: to be the best at what I do. So as 259 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 1: a little girl, I would go in the every single day. 260 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 1: I would go from when the gym opened basically until 261 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:08,199 Speaker 1: the gym closed, and they would have to be kicking 262 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:10,199 Speaker 1: me out of the gym. They would turn off the 263 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 1: lights and be like, Gabby, you need to go home, 264 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 1: like we need to go home, like come on. And 265 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:17,360 Speaker 1: I just think I had such a love and a 266 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 1: passion for it, like since I was little, and it's yeah, 267 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 1: like I'm not gonna lie. There was there were times 268 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 1: that my passion for the sport would not die, but 269 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 1: it just like the flame went out, and there were 270 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 1: times that I had to pull myself back up and 271 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 1: pull myself out of it and be like you know what, 272 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 1: like don't forget why you started it. You started it 273 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 1: because you loved it, and you need to find that 274 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 1: joy again, like that happiness that it brought you when 275 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 1: you were a little girl. 276 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 3: Two things to double click on the first thing. 277 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 2: Do you think that you were born with this like 278 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 2: passion and drive, Like was it modeled for you from 279 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 2: a young age, like at home, or do you think 280 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 2: that that is something that became an inquired skill over time. 281 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 1: I think since I was a little girl, I have 282 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:09,800 Speaker 1: always been a super energetic and athletic person since I 283 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 1: was little. 284 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 4: Like my dad he used to when I was a baby. 285 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 1: He would like put me on his hand and like 286 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 1: balance me and I you know, I was a very 287 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 1: energetic kid, and that's actually why my parents put me 288 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:24,240 Speaker 1: in gymnastics at first, and then they switched me over 289 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 1: to cheerleading because I had so much energy, and so 290 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 1: I think I did it more for fun when I 291 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 1: was little, But then I started getting really really good 292 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 1: at it, and I started seeing the more competitive side 293 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 1: and the more like you gotta like be on your 294 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 1: a game when you're when you're hanging with the best, 295 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 1: like you gotta be on your on your feet, on 296 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 1: your toe. So it definitely did get more challenging as 297 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 1: I've grown up, but it molded me into the person 298 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:54,960 Speaker 1: I am today. If I quit when I wanted to, 299 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 1: I would have never been in the position that I'm 300 00:15:57,720 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 1: in right now. So I think like all the challenges 301 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 1: is in all the competitiveness and all the things that 302 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 1: have been you know, basically thrown is something that has 303 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 1: made me a lot stronger. 304 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's interesting to hear you talk about your 305 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 2: beginnings as a cheerleader, knowing that you weren't the best. 306 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 3: A little bit of hesitation there. 307 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 2: You, as I have heard you talk about before, also 308 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 2: had some hesitation about getting involved. 309 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 3: With Navarro, So talk to us a little bit about that. 310 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 1: I was never like going to get involved with college cheerleading. 311 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, I'm just strictly all star because 312 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 1: that's where I started. I started an All star. And 313 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 1: I was like, I will never do college cheerleading, like 314 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 1: absolutely not. 315 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 3: And why did you say that? Why not? 316 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 1: Number one was because they were on dead mat And 317 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 1: it was like, how that is terrible? Why on earth 318 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:51,440 Speaker 1: would I want to put my body through like college cheerleading, 319 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 1: especially if. 320 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 4: It's on a dead mat. 321 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:56,360 Speaker 1: And you know, I used to think more of like 322 00:16:56,400 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 1: when I thought of college cheerleading, I thought more of like, yeah, 323 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 1: like the cheer and the even me, like who was 324 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 1: in cheerleading? I thought college cheerleading was more about like, 325 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 1: you know, the cheers and the sidelines, and I'm like, 326 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:09,639 Speaker 1: I don't want to do that, like that's not what 327 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 1: I want to do. And then Kaylie Peppers, who is 328 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 1: actually was the assistant coach for Navarro last year, like 329 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:19,199 Speaker 1: she was actually the one that got me to go 330 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:21,600 Speaker 1: to Navarro and visit. She's like, I think you should 331 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:24,200 Speaker 1: come to a Navarro practice and I was like, I 332 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:26,879 Speaker 1: don't really know, like that's probably not something that I 333 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:29,520 Speaker 1: want to do. She was like, no, I really think 334 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 1: you should. And I'm like, okay, like I'll just go 335 00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:35,439 Speaker 1: to one practice. And I actually didn't even do it 336 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:37,560 Speaker 1: that season. I did it the next season. I went 337 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:40,920 Speaker 1: to Navarro after so I went and this is actually 338 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:43,959 Speaker 1: a funny story, so I actually went to TVCC also 339 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 1: because I wanted to see them too. And I think 340 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:52,119 Speaker 1: both programs are great, Like I genuinely think both programs 341 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:54,760 Speaker 1: are like super talented, but I think the way that 342 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:57,240 Speaker 1: they do things is obviously a little bit different. But 343 00:17:57,359 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 1: one thing that really drove me to go to NOVA 344 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:05,359 Speaker 1: was Monica specifically. She has definitely impacted my life, like 345 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:09,399 Speaker 1: the in the best way that any person could, Like 346 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 1: she really really was there for me when I felt 347 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 1: like I didn't have anyone else. 348 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:17,399 Speaker 2: Clearly, she has been a role model for you, someone 349 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:19,960 Speaker 2: that you look up to. What would you say are 350 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 2: some of the values or qualities that you admire in Monica? 351 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:28,359 Speaker 1: The way she holds herself, Like the way she carries herself, 352 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 1: Like she really does carry herself with such like grace 353 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 1: and being humble too, but she's also got that fiery 354 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:39,160 Speaker 1: side that's like all right, like we are not coming 355 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 1: to play, like let's get this going. 356 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 4: You know, she could be she could be like so. 357 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:46,719 Speaker 1: Sweet and graceful, but she also has a switch that 358 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:49,880 Speaker 1: she could turn on that it's like a boss. 359 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:52,400 Speaker 4: And I think that overall, like. 360 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 1: She just genuinely cares so much about all of her kids, 361 00:18:57,119 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 1: Like she really will fight for every single one of us. 362 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:04,720 Speaker 1: And I think that that's something that isn't just when 363 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:08,200 Speaker 1: you're her athlete, Like that's throughout life. If I called 364 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:11,560 Speaker 1: Monica and said I need your help on this situation, 365 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:15,560 Speaker 1: like she's there, Yeah, she's like a mother like to me. Honestly, 366 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 1: she still to this day keeps in contact with me 367 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:20,840 Speaker 1: and like even if I don't respond, like she'll just 368 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:23,160 Speaker 1: check on me to make sure I'm doing good. 369 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:26,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think it's so special to have those 370 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 2: role models and the people that you look up to 371 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:31,680 Speaker 2: at this point now, I mean, someone goes to your Instagram, 372 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:34,919 Speaker 2: you have almost two million followers. You're certainly someone that 373 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:37,680 Speaker 2: a lot of people look up to, including young women 374 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:38,360 Speaker 2: in the sport. 375 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:41,399 Speaker 3: How do you take responsibility for that? 376 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:44,560 Speaker 2: Because I'm sure that when people talk about you that 377 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 2: you hope that if they're looking up to you, they're 378 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:49,480 Speaker 2: kind of talking about you with that same admiration that 379 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:50,880 Speaker 2: you talk about Monica with. 380 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 1: I want people to also know, and this is something 381 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:56,199 Speaker 1: I've always said, like I want people to know that 382 00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 1: I am a normal Like I am so normal and 383 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:02,440 Speaker 1: I'm really because I think that a lot of people think, 384 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, like you can't even come up to 385 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:08,680 Speaker 1: her or approach her, But I really am like one 386 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:11,359 Speaker 1: of the most chilled, down to earth people. And I 387 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 1: want to impact people's lives in a very positive way 388 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:17,440 Speaker 1: because I feel like there's so much there's so much 389 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:20,560 Speaker 1: darkness in this world and there's so much negativity already. 390 00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:24,359 Speaker 1: So if I could at least change one person's life, 391 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:29,280 Speaker 1: impact one person, that's I feel like that's accomplishing, Like 392 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 1: a really big thing because I really genuinely just want 393 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:36,840 Speaker 1: people to be positive and loving and I want to 394 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:39,960 Speaker 1: bring out that positivity in the you know, not only 395 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:43,560 Speaker 1: in the cheer industry, but with everyone. So I think 396 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:47,760 Speaker 1: showing my true genuine side is something so important because 397 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:50,720 Speaker 1: I want people to know that I do mess up, 398 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 1: I do have bad days, and I do go through 399 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:55,840 Speaker 1: things also, and I want them to be able to 400 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:57,359 Speaker 1: like relate definitely. 401 00:20:57,560 --> 00:21:01,400 Speaker 2: And I would imagine after the kind of media frenzy 402 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:04,240 Speaker 2: and just the frenzy in general that happened with Season 403 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:06,520 Speaker 2: one of Cheer, that there was probably a little bit 404 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:10,200 Speaker 2: of an adjustment period as more and more people knew 405 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:12,359 Speaker 2: your name and like kind of had a little bit 406 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:14,240 Speaker 2: of access to you because of the way that social 407 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:15,000 Speaker 2: media works. 408 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:17,440 Speaker 3: Can you talk to us a little bit about what 409 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 3: that was like for you. 410 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:22,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, So I've always had, you know, a little bit 411 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:24,640 Speaker 1: of a social media following, and I feel like that's 412 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:28,239 Speaker 1: something that I I'm very grateful for because I was 413 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:31,640 Speaker 1: in the limelight since such a young age and I'm 414 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 1: really grateful that my because I feel like a big 415 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:37,240 Speaker 1: part of the reason that I am the way I 416 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:39,920 Speaker 1: am and the way I can handle these things so well, 417 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:43,600 Speaker 1: is because my parents have kind of helped me throughout 418 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:46,919 Speaker 1: my entire life with speaking in front of people and 419 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 1: with going and doing these things, and definitely just prepping 420 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:53,520 Speaker 1: me and like making sure that I'm like the best 421 00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:57,719 Speaker 1: example for younger people, and not only younger people, just overall. 422 00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:00,200 Speaker 1: Everyone was kind of just thrown into it, and I've 423 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 1: had a little bit of a head start to be like, 424 00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 1: I know what to do, I know how it goes. 425 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:08,159 Speaker 2: Having this really beautiful relationship with your parents. Then I 426 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:11,320 Speaker 2: have to ask you how it felt when they were 427 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:14,119 Speaker 2: getting some criticism after that first season of the show. 428 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 1: I'm the first to say, like my family, we are 429 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 1: not like a normal family. We are crazy, we're loud, 430 00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 1: We're very very blunt and straight to the point, and 431 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 1: a lot of people don't really like that, I guess, 432 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:30,800 Speaker 1: or they're not used to it, but that's just the 433 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:33,080 Speaker 1: way that my family is and I wouldn't trade them 434 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:36,120 Speaker 1: for the world, honestly, but I definitely, you know, it 435 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:38,879 Speaker 1: was hard to see like all the criticism because I 436 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:41,879 Speaker 1: felt like a lot of people didn't see like the 437 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 1: genuine moments that we had and like the laughs that 438 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 1: we had, and you know, the loving moments, I feel 439 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:51,359 Speaker 1: like it was more like people were focusing on like, oh, 440 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:54,639 Speaker 1: the negative and like oh, her parents are you know 441 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:56,960 Speaker 1: this and that and it. Yeah, it was sad to 442 00:22:57,000 --> 00:23:00,399 Speaker 1: see because I'm like, that's not the way that they all, like, 443 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 1: that's not the way that we are as a family. 444 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:07,040 Speaker 1: Like yeah, are we crazy, absolutely, But the way that 445 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 1: the show was, I think they portrayed everyone like very 446 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:13,560 Speaker 1: well and like correctly, and then like that situation, everyone 447 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:15,840 Speaker 1: was just kind of like oh, you know, like they 448 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 1: all had their own opinions and that's fine at the 449 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 1: end of the day, Like whoever knows us personally as 450 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 1: a family, like they know, like we're a very tight 451 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 1: knit family. 452 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 2: Taking a break from today's episode to give some love 453 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 2: to my sponsors. 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So again, 519 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:04,360 Speaker 2: that is green chef dot com slash curdle one thirty 520 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:06,920 Speaker 2: and use quote hurdle one thirty. 521 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:09,480 Speaker 3: To get one hundred and thirty dollars. 522 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 2: Off plus free shipping green chef dot Com slash Hurdle 523 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:19,080 Speaker 2: one thirty. 524 00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:22,720 Speaker 3: It sounds like you have like such a good head 525 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:23,320 Speaker 3: on your shoulders. 526 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:26,159 Speaker 2: Now about that whole idea, not just with your family, 527 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:27,919 Speaker 2: but knowing that, like there are always going to be 528 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:31,520 Speaker 2: people that have some sort of opinion about what they 529 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 2: see or maybe what they read, or like whatever it 530 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:37,439 Speaker 2: is that you post. Like how have you gotten to 531 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:40,440 Speaker 2: this place where you're able to kind of like let 532 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:44,120 Speaker 2: these things go, Because no matter how secure you are 533 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:46,040 Speaker 2: in yourself, like, there's always going to be like that 534 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:48,040 Speaker 2: moment where you read something or see something and it 535 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:48,920 Speaker 2: stings a little bit. 536 00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:51,560 Speaker 1: I always say this, people are always going to say 537 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:53,879 Speaker 1: and they're going to have their own opinion of you, 538 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:54,679 Speaker 1: and that's fine. 539 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:57,760 Speaker 4: Like I say it all the time. I'm like, you know, 540 00:27:58,720 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 4: if people don't like. 541 00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:04,000 Speaker 1: Me, then that's totally fine. Like I'm not trying to 542 00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:06,680 Speaker 1: impress everyone, because at the end of the day, if 543 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:10,199 Speaker 1: I was, if I was trying to please everyone, I 544 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:13,439 Speaker 1: wouldn't be happy myself because I'm trying so hard to 545 00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:14,240 Speaker 1: please everyone. 546 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:17,480 Speaker 4: And I think that just knowing who you are and being. 547 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:22,800 Speaker 1: Yourself is like the most valuable thing, especially nowadays, because 548 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:25,520 Speaker 1: I feel like people get caught up in what others 549 00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:28,720 Speaker 1: think about them or what other people's opinions are, and 550 00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:31,159 Speaker 1: it's like people are going to have their opinions of 551 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:34,439 Speaker 1: you and not everyone who's going to like you all 552 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:37,239 Speaker 1: the time, and that's fine. You be you because at 553 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:38,200 Speaker 1: the end of the day, you. 554 00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:39,240 Speaker 4: Only have you. 555 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:41,000 Speaker 1: You are going to have those friends that are going 556 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 1: to have your back, but at the end of the day, 557 00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:45,280 Speaker 1: like you are always going to have you, and you 558 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:47,880 Speaker 1: need to be confident, know who you are and just 559 00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:50,400 Speaker 1: know you're not always going to be able to please everyone. 560 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:52,920 Speaker 1: If you're true to who you are, then that's like 561 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:53,960 Speaker 1: really all that matters. 562 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:57,320 Speaker 2: It's so interesting as well, because you saying when we 563 00:28:57,360 --> 00:28:59,760 Speaker 2: started this, you are like, yeah, I haven't seen it yet. 564 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:02,480 Speaker 2: To be back in this place where you haven't seen 565 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:05,840 Speaker 2: it yet, do you have any residual anxiety about that? 566 00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:10,680 Speaker 1: Yeah? I have, like because it's so it's crazy and 567 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:13,560 Speaker 1: I feel like you really have to open up and 568 00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:16,480 Speaker 1: be vulnerable when you're putting your life out there. And 569 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:20,440 Speaker 1: I definitely try to like be as real as I 570 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:23,920 Speaker 1: can be regardless if there are cameras around or not. 571 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:27,280 Speaker 1: I've never like, that's one thing that I've really tried 572 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:30,600 Speaker 1: to do is I've never really thought like I'm going 573 00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:34,280 Speaker 1: to act a certain way because you know, cameras are 574 00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:37,320 Speaker 1: around or these people are around, Like, I've always just 575 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:40,200 Speaker 1: tried to be as genuine and as open as I 576 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:44,080 Speaker 1: possibly can and just show that I am a human 577 00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:46,360 Speaker 1: being and I do have emotions, and I do have 578 00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:48,400 Speaker 1: bad days, and I do have things that I have 579 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:51,600 Speaker 1: to overcome all the time, and I want people to 580 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:54,840 Speaker 1: know like it's okay to not be perfect. You are 581 00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:57,840 Speaker 1: going to have all these different things, Like you're not 582 00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:00,960 Speaker 1: always going to have like an upward path in life, 583 00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:03,520 Speaker 1: Like it's gonna come at you and it's gonna there's 584 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:05,360 Speaker 1: gonna be things thrown at you all the time. But 585 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:08,680 Speaker 1: it's how you handle those things that's going to make 586 00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:10,520 Speaker 1: you the person you are. 587 00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:12,920 Speaker 2: I do want to rewind just a little bit to 588 00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:16,200 Speaker 2: talk a little bit more about the earlier parts of 589 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:21,320 Speaker 2: your career in cheerleading, specifically the earlier days with Navarro. 590 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:25,160 Speaker 2: I mean before cheer was even a thing. When you 591 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:28,959 Speaker 2: think about those days and building these new relationships, do 592 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:32,080 Speaker 2: you find that as someone that's in a sport where 593 00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:35,840 Speaker 2: there is so much trust involved that that takes some 594 00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:38,360 Speaker 2: time or is that something that kind of comes with 595 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:43,480 Speaker 2: the territory when you put yourself up into these situations. 596 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:46,880 Speaker 1: I definitely think as a team like, this is just 597 00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:50,080 Speaker 1: something that over the years I've noticed, the closer the 598 00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:53,760 Speaker 1: team is and the better the bond is, the more 599 00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:55,000 Speaker 1: success you're going to have. 600 00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:57,160 Speaker 4: Like it's a known fact. 601 00:30:56,960 --> 00:31:01,280 Speaker 1: And it's very rare for teams to win and do 602 00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:05,280 Speaker 1: really well if they're divided. And I've been on teams 603 00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:09,640 Speaker 1: where there's so much talent but we don't win because 604 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:12,880 Speaker 1: we weren't as close, or teams that I've been on 605 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:15,600 Speaker 1: that we didn't have as much talent and we just 606 00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:19,440 Speaker 1: were so close and we knew each other's strengths and weaknesses, 607 00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:22,680 Speaker 1: and I think, yeah, like those were the most successful 608 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:25,880 Speaker 1: years that I was on. So this is what I 609 00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:30,120 Speaker 1: say all the time, Like you as a team, you 610 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:34,600 Speaker 1: need to be a team to be successful, because if 611 00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:37,440 Speaker 1: you're not a team, it doesn't matter how much talent you. 612 00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:42,040 Speaker 2: Have, especially if there's a disconnect, then there is a 613 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:45,400 Speaker 2: greater risk for injury. Talk to us a little bit 614 00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:49,320 Speaker 2: about your past dealing with injury. Has it been something 615 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:51,760 Speaker 2: that you have had to navigate a lot or have 616 00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:53,520 Speaker 2: you been more of one of the lucky one. 617 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:57,640 Speaker 1: No, I've definitely had my handful of injuries. I have 618 00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:03,680 Speaker 1: had broken ankles, I've had dislocated elbows, and I've had 619 00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:09,440 Speaker 1: I've had concussions, I've had sprains, I've had honestly a 620 00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:10,320 Speaker 1: lot of things. 621 00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:12,160 Speaker 4: I've never had like a knockum one. 622 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:16,320 Speaker 1: I've never had like a serious, like serious back injury. 623 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:19,360 Speaker 1: But my back, like I'll wake up some days in 624 00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:21,960 Speaker 1: my back will literally just feel like it wants to break. 625 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:26,120 Speaker 1: So Yeah, there's definitely As an athlete, especially in like 626 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:31,440 Speaker 1: college cheerleading, I think it's very very common to get injuries, 627 00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:35,480 Speaker 1: and especially when your skills are higher and you're doing 628 00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:40,040 Speaker 1: more difficult things, I think it's super easy to get hurt, 629 00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:44,320 Speaker 1: especially if you don't have that bond and that trust 630 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:47,680 Speaker 1: with your no like the people that are especially throwing you, 631 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:50,480 Speaker 1: I think it's very dangerous. You have to make sure 632 00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:53,840 Speaker 1: that you trust the person that is under you, and 633 00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:56,960 Speaker 1: vice versa. I think it's important to have like that 634 00:32:57,000 --> 00:33:01,120 Speaker 1: trust in that bond to make sure or like Okay, 635 00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:03,640 Speaker 1: I know who's I know that whoever's under me is 636 00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:05,680 Speaker 1: going to catch me. I'm going to make sure that 637 00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:10,200 Speaker 1: I trust them. Yeah, it's key. It's key for cheerleading. 638 00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:12,760 Speaker 2: And regardless if someone's throwing you or not, people reach 639 00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:14,440 Speaker 2: out to me all the time and ask about this. 640 00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:17,280 Speaker 2: I'm sure you've gotten messages about how to cope with 641 00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:20,840 Speaker 2: being on the injured list. It can be so so difficult, 642 00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:23,000 Speaker 2: especially like when you can't do the thing that like 643 00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:26,640 Speaker 2: you identify as like you couldn't cheerlead. I'm a big runner, 644 00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:28,400 Speaker 2: Like if I get injured and I can't run, like 645 00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:32,280 Speaker 2: it just it totally sucks the wind out of your sails. 646 00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:35,720 Speaker 2: How have you navigated that frustration in the past, and 647 00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:39,320 Speaker 2: maybe what advice do you have for someone who is 648 00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:41,520 Speaker 2: kind of sidelined from what they love to do. 649 00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:44,600 Speaker 1: It's a major setback, and it's something that you have 650 00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:48,360 Speaker 1: to not only physically like prepare for, but it's something 651 00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:51,320 Speaker 1: that is so mentally. It's a setback for sure. And 652 00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:54,440 Speaker 1: I found myself in situations where when I'm hurt, I 653 00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:57,320 Speaker 1: get so sad and I get down and depressed, and 654 00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:01,080 Speaker 1: it's hard. I have to pull myself out of it 655 00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:02,840 Speaker 1: and be like, you know what, there could be a 656 00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:07,040 Speaker 1: lot worse things. You could be super unhealthy and sick, 657 00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:10,680 Speaker 1: or the injury could have been way worse. And if 658 00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:14,640 Speaker 1: there's people that are around, go surround yourself with people 659 00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:17,480 Speaker 1: that are gonna uplift you. And love you and bring 660 00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:22,120 Speaker 1: happiness out of you because injuries are Yeah, they suck, absolutely, 661 00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:24,920 Speaker 1: But I think there's so much more to life than 662 00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:29,239 Speaker 1: harping on like an injury, especially like with cheerleading, you know, 663 00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:32,320 Speaker 1: like if something happens with cheer I really try not 664 00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:34,680 Speaker 1: to harp on it so much because I'm like, cheerleading 665 00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:37,600 Speaker 1: is cheerleading. It's a step in life. It's a stepping stool. 666 00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:42,359 Speaker 1: It's not everything. I do think it definitely has. It's 667 00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:44,439 Speaker 1: been something that's been a big part of my life, 668 00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:48,640 Speaker 1: but it's not everything. So if I get a setback 669 00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:52,920 Speaker 1: or I do get hurt or something happens that isn't 670 00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:56,840 Speaker 1: really like in my plan, I'm not harping on it 671 00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:58,359 Speaker 1: too much because I'm like, you know what, I have 672 00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:01,719 Speaker 1: people around me that love me. I have other things 673 00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:04,319 Speaker 1: that I could do, and there's just so much more 674 00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:04,840 Speaker 1: to life. 675 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's like being able to articulate that value, 676 00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:12,479 Speaker 2: right that you, as Gabby have value, not just as 677 00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:16,200 Speaker 2: Gabby this like superstellar cheerleader, but also just as like 678 00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:18,399 Speaker 2: Gabby Butler the woman. Right. 679 00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:22,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, So I definitely think that, Yeah, just having a 680 00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:25,799 Speaker 1: positive mindset because I'm going to use one girl as 681 00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:29,640 Speaker 1: an example. Her name is Michaela and she actually just 682 00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:33,600 Speaker 1: had a spinal injury with cheerleading and I was going 683 00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:36,440 Speaker 1: through some stuff and I looked and as soon as 684 00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:39,760 Speaker 1: that happened, I was like wow. And you know, something 685 00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:44,040 Speaker 1: that really impacted me a lot with her story is 686 00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:47,359 Speaker 1: even after she was paralyzed, like from the neck down, 687 00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:50,759 Speaker 1: basically she was like, I know that God has a 688 00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:53,640 Speaker 1: plan for everything, and I know that at the end 689 00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:55,759 Speaker 1: of the day, like I'm going to trust him and 690 00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:58,360 Speaker 1: like just hope for the best. And if I stay 691 00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:01,200 Speaker 1: like this, I'm just grateful for all the people around 692 00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:05,160 Speaker 1: me that are like loving and supportive and that really 693 00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:07,400 Speaker 1: really like spoke to me, because I'm like, Wow, if 694 00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:11,440 Speaker 1: this girl, if this young girl can have a mindset 695 00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:14,799 Speaker 1: like that and she's basically paralyzed from the neck down, 696 00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:18,040 Speaker 1: and an update on her she's actually able to move now, 697 00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:21,759 Speaker 1: which is like super super amazing. That just really moved me. 698 00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:24,880 Speaker 1: I was like, if I have a mindset like that, 699 00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:28,680 Speaker 1: because she's dealing with this and she's in that mindset, 700 00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:30,719 Speaker 1: then I should be a lot more positive. 701 00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:32,960 Speaker 2: You know, whether these hurdles are these tough moments like 702 00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:35,799 Speaker 2: happened to you personally, or you get to have like 703 00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:38,359 Speaker 2: a front row seat and see someone that you know 704 00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:42,040 Speaker 2: go through something difficult. It's these difficult moments that teach us, 705 00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:48,120 Speaker 2: sometimes unfortunately but thankfully, to appreciate the smaller stuff. At 706 00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:51,239 Speaker 2: completely different exercise, but a couple of years back, I 707 00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:53,800 Speaker 2: started writing down one thing every morning that I was 708 00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:56,680 Speaker 2: grateful for. And what that exercise did, aside from like 709 00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:59,440 Speaker 2: bring some more gratitude into my life, was that on 710 00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:02,520 Speaker 2: the morning that I couldn't articulate like what the one 711 00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:04,520 Speaker 2: thing was from the past twenty four hours that was 712 00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:07,279 Speaker 2: really awesome and radiant, I was like, what are you 713 00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:10,320 Speaker 2: doing that you're so wrapped up in like nothing important 714 00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:13,160 Speaker 2: that you can't find the joy in your day to day. 715 00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:16,200 Speaker 1: The way that you think and your mindset can really 716 00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:20,400 Speaker 1: like change the way you do things. And I think 717 00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:23,880 Speaker 1: that there is so much negativity out in the world, 718 00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:30,120 Speaker 1: so I think that finding the positives are so important, 719 00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:34,160 Speaker 1: especially nowadays, because I feel like a lot of people 720 00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:38,840 Speaker 1: can easily get brought down because of a lot of 721 00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:42,799 Speaker 1: things in life. You have to stay positive no matter what, 722 00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:45,880 Speaker 1: because at the end of the day, things aren't always 723 00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:48,800 Speaker 1: going to stay that way. You're not always going to 724 00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:51,080 Speaker 1: stay on the top and you're not always going to 725 00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:54,120 Speaker 1: be at the bottom. So you have to be grateful 726 00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:56,440 Speaker 1: when you're on the top, and then you have to 727 00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:59,160 Speaker 1: be hopeful for when you're at the bottom. I've had 728 00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:02,080 Speaker 1: my like day where i feel like I'm on top 729 00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:04,600 Speaker 1: of the world, and then the next day I feel 730 00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:07,440 Speaker 1: I'm at the lowest points of my life. 731 00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:07,920 Speaker 4: But I. 732 00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:11,920 Speaker 1: Have to understand that that's just the way life goes. 733 00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:15,959 Speaker 1: You're never going to have a perfect steady ride. It's 734 00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:18,840 Speaker 1: going to be up and down, in sideways and turning, 735 00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:21,520 Speaker 1: and you just have to like really stay positive and 736 00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:23,640 Speaker 1: just know that you're not going to always be in 737 00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:25,440 Speaker 1: those highs and lows forever. 738 00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:30,239 Speaker 2: Have you worked with a sports psychologist a sports psychologist, Yeah, no, 739 00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:35,120 Speaker 2: I have not, But that's actually why does it? 740 00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:36,000 Speaker 3: Does it? 741 00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:36,520 Speaker 1: Like? 742 00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:39,600 Speaker 2: I mean, I think that you have a really great outlook, 743 00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:41,880 Speaker 2: but I do think that a lot of these takeaways, 744 00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:43,600 Speaker 2: I mean, yes, they can be learned. I mean I 745 00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:46,200 Speaker 2: haven't worked with the sports psychologist. I've worked with a therapist. 746 00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:47,920 Speaker 2: I actually have a call with a life coach in 747 00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:50,640 Speaker 2: forty five minutes from right now. But listening to you 748 00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:54,840 Speaker 2: talk about your experiences and the broad understanding that you 749 00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:57,160 Speaker 2: have from the highs and the lows. It just was 750 00:38:57,200 --> 00:38:59,680 Speaker 2: something that I feel like someone at your level of 751 00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:01,480 Speaker 2: perform ormance, it wouldn't surprise me. 752 00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:04,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, thank you. That's yeah. 753 00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:07,680 Speaker 1: I definitely like I try to take a bad situation 754 00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:11,760 Speaker 1: and make it positive, even though I definitely have had 755 00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:14,160 Speaker 1: my times where I'm like I just want to, Like, 756 00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:16,759 Speaker 1: there's days that I want to quit. There's days that 757 00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:19,520 Speaker 1: I want to just say, like, I don't want to 758 00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:22,319 Speaker 1: do this anymore. But I definitely just try to like 759 00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:26,360 Speaker 1: make the best of it and be as positive and 760 00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:29,080 Speaker 1: grateful as I can. 761 00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:34,080 Speaker 2: Aside from the season premiere, season two premiere of Cheer, 762 00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:36,239 Speaker 2: what else excites you right now? 763 00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:39,560 Speaker 1: I do have a few things that I'm doing right now. 764 00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:42,839 Speaker 1: So one is, I have this fitness app that I'm 765 00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:46,640 Speaker 1: actually relaunching this year. I have my YouTube channel that 766 00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:49,840 Speaker 1: I'm actually relaunching and I'm going to be making a 767 00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:53,640 Speaker 1: lot more content for that as well this year. And 768 00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:57,680 Speaker 1: I also have this clothing line that I've been working 769 00:39:57,680 --> 00:39:58,480 Speaker 1: on with Rebel. 770 00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:00,960 Speaker 3: Sounds like a lot of really great stuff. 771 00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:03,040 Speaker 2: And then I'd be remiss if I didn't bring up 772 00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:06,520 Speaker 2: you cheering at Weber State, Utah. I think I looked 773 00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:08,840 Speaker 2: at the forecast before you and I hopped on this call, 774 00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:11,240 Speaker 2: and the forecast there today was like something like thirty 775 00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:15,839 Speaker 2: two degrees, a very different scenario from where you grew 776 00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:17,680 Speaker 2: up in Boca. 777 00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:21,040 Speaker 1: It's so funny because I was like, there is no 778 00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:24,920 Speaker 1: way that I'm going too cold Utah. Like I've always 779 00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:28,840 Speaker 1: lived in hot states, and you know, Florida and Texas, 780 00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:31,920 Speaker 1: like they're pretty similar. They're they're always hot. But I 781 00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:33,759 Speaker 1: was like, there's at that was like one of the 782 00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:36,160 Speaker 1: biggest things. I'm like, that's gonna be so hard for 783 00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:39,000 Speaker 1: me to because I'm not used to the cold at all, 784 00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:40,960 Speaker 1: and like I'm not I do not. 785 00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:42,080 Speaker 4: Work well in the cold. 786 00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:45,399 Speaker 1: But surprisingly, it really hasn't been like as bad as 787 00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:46,880 Speaker 1: I thought it was going to be. 788 00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:50,120 Speaker 4: I've actually like learned to kind of like the cold, 789 00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:54,520 Speaker 4: even though I'm not really like, yeah, I'm not. I 790 00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:55,880 Speaker 4: love looking at the snow. 791 00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:58,560 Speaker 1: I think it's beautiful, but I'm like when I go 792 00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:01,640 Speaker 1: in it, I'm like, Okay, I'm not gonna go back inside. 793 00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:03,560 Speaker 2: You're like, I do not need to own any of 794 00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:05,719 Speaker 2: my own property here because I will not be shoveling it. 795 00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:10,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, No, absolutely not, but I definitely have. It's grown 796 00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:12,240 Speaker 1: on me a little bit, Like I think it's so pretty, 797 00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:14,600 Speaker 1: like when it snows, because I'm you know, I'm not 798 00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:16,040 Speaker 1: used to seeing it snow. 799 00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:17,480 Speaker 4: I'm used to oceans. 800 00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:20,120 Speaker 1: So for me, I come here and I'm like, I 801 00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:22,200 Speaker 1: look like a little kid in the candy store because. 802 00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:23,120 Speaker 4: I'm like, oh gosh, it's snow. 803 00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:25,440 Speaker 1: And then I'm sure some people from here they go 804 00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:27,359 Speaker 1: to Florida and they're like, oh my gosh, it's the beach. 805 00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:29,920 Speaker 1: Like that's but that's something that I've been like brought 806 00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:32,399 Speaker 1: up with, so it's not like anything new for me. 807 00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:37,960 Speaker 3: Exactly Exactly. We mentioned your large social media following. 808 00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:42,279 Speaker 2: Before someone comes to your Instagram page, they see a cheerleader, 809 00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:46,319 Speaker 2: someone with millions plural of followers. When you look in 810 00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:48,440 Speaker 2: the mirror, what is it that you see looking back 811 00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:48,879 Speaker 2: at you. 812 00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:52,719 Speaker 1: I just see Gabby, Like I see like this, I 813 00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:55,840 Speaker 1: see like the little girl that basically I mean not 814 00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:58,080 Speaker 1: a little girl actually, but like I see like kind 815 00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:01,480 Speaker 1: of like my chill likeummy side. I'll wake up in 816 00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:03,680 Speaker 1: the morning and my hair is all over the place 817 00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:07,840 Speaker 1: and I'm looking like a freaking I just yeah, like 818 00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:09,640 Speaker 1: a like a bum and I love that side, like 819 00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:10,719 Speaker 1: I love the. 820 00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:13,839 Speaker 4: Real side of me, just because I a lot of people. 821 00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:16,160 Speaker 1: That know me know me, like they know that I 822 00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:20,640 Speaker 1: really am so chill and like normal, and I just 823 00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:22,840 Speaker 1: think it's I think it's so funny because when I 824 00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:24,680 Speaker 1: do meet people, they're like, oh my gosh, I wasn't 825 00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:28,640 Speaker 1: expecting you to be like so talkative and down to earth, 826 00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:30,719 Speaker 1: And I'm like, I'm probably one of the most chill 827 00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:33,960 Speaker 1: people I think in the public eye or have a 828 00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:37,560 Speaker 1: lot of followers, just because I've been so like used 829 00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:38,080 Speaker 1: to it. 830 00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:39,279 Speaker 4: It's never changed me. 831 00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:41,920 Speaker 2: You mentioned it being super hard on the body. I'm 832 00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:44,080 Speaker 2: sure a lot of people listening to this are really curious. 833 00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:47,360 Speaker 2: What are some things that you do, either prehab or 834 00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:50,200 Speaker 2: posthab to make sure that you're taking care of yourself 835 00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:52,000 Speaker 2: in the way that you have to to be on 836 00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:52,880 Speaker 2: top of your sport. 837 00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:56,760 Speaker 1: I make sure that outside of practice, I'm keeping myself 838 00:42:56,800 --> 00:43:00,560 Speaker 1: in good physical shape because I know that she is 839 00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:02,759 Speaker 1: a great like it's great for working out, and it's 840 00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:04,719 Speaker 1: great for keeping yourself in shape, but I want to 841 00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:07,360 Speaker 1: make sure that I am in the best physical shape 842 00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:10,000 Speaker 1: that I can be in so that I can be 843 00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:12,759 Speaker 1: the best for my team. And what I like to 844 00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:15,799 Speaker 1: do is I like to actually work out outside of 845 00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:20,080 Speaker 1: my practices so I can be more strong, like physically 846 00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:23,320 Speaker 1: stronger and even like mentally stronger, because I feel like 847 00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:25,640 Speaker 1: it's a good way for me to like let out 848 00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:28,920 Speaker 1: like all my anxiety or my stress, like that's the 849 00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:32,480 Speaker 1: gym has always been there for like a decompression for me, 850 00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:36,520 Speaker 1: like a stress reliever. And then also something that I 851 00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:39,279 Speaker 1: like to do just outside of practices is just like 852 00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:42,160 Speaker 1: really take time for myself and like hang out with 853 00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:45,040 Speaker 1: the people that have been there for me and the 854 00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:48,520 Speaker 1: people that like actually like care about me. Obviously, people 855 00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:50,719 Speaker 1: see me at practice and they see like that side 856 00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:53,239 Speaker 1: of Gabby. They see the athlete side, they see the 857 00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:57,880 Speaker 1: tough side. But the people that like know me know 858 00:43:58,000 --> 00:43:59,960 Speaker 1: that I'm a normal person too, and they know that 859 00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:02,640 Speaker 1: I do struggle with things and I do have things 860 00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:06,160 Speaker 1: going on in my life and it's not just the 861 00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:09,400 Speaker 1: athlete side. So I really really like to just surround 862 00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:12,520 Speaker 1: myself with like the people that have been there for me, 863 00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:16,000 Speaker 1: like outside of practices, and the people that like really 864 00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:18,200 Speaker 1: want to hang out with me and get to know me. 865 00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:21,040 Speaker 1: For me, I would say like those two things, Like 866 00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:22,520 Speaker 1: I really like focus. 867 00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:25,080 Speaker 2: On outside of practice. How many days a week would 868 00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:26,040 Speaker 2: you say you're in the gym? 869 00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:31,120 Speaker 1: Pretty much every day I'm in the gym, Like every day. 870 00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:33,680 Speaker 1: My mom thinks something's wrong with me. She's like, you 871 00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:36,759 Speaker 1: are not mentally well. Like if you actually enjoy going 872 00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:39,719 Speaker 1: to the gym that much, I'm like, I. 873 00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:39,479 Speaker 4: But I do. 874 00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:42,279 Speaker 1: I genuinely do enjoy it. I feel like it's like 875 00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:44,560 Speaker 1: a really good way for me to like let out 876 00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:48,000 Speaker 1: some like you know, steam, and then also just like 877 00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:50,880 Speaker 1: feel good, because like when you feel when you look good, 878 00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:53,399 Speaker 1: like you feel good, and I feel like working out 879 00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:57,160 Speaker 1: is definitely like one of the things that I personally enjoy. 880 00:44:57,560 --> 00:44:59,600 Speaker 3: Strength Cardio Mix question mark. 881 00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:02,680 Speaker 1: I like to do a lot of cardio, which a 882 00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:05,880 Speaker 1: lot of people don't like. That's my specific strength. I 883 00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:08,480 Speaker 1: do need to start adding more weights in, but I do. 884 00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:10,840 Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm a cardio queen. I can go for 885 00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:15,239 Speaker 1: hours on like a treadmill or the stairs. That's like 886 00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:18,440 Speaker 1: my go to the stairs, So I could go on 887 00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:19,960 Speaker 1: that thing for like hours. 888 00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:23,960 Speaker 2: All fellow cardio queens listening to this podcast right now 889 00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:25,000 Speaker 2: are like, I'm not alone. 890 00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:25,760 Speaker 3: It's so good. 891 00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:29,280 Speaker 1: Thank God, it is like honest, now, like just watch 892 00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:32,839 Speaker 1: TikTok's or I'll like have conversations like so the time 893 00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:35,279 Speaker 1: goes by faster, or I'll watch a movie. 894 00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:37,560 Speaker 4: I just think it's like so easy. I'm like, yeah, 895 00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:39,520 Speaker 4: I can do this for days. 896 00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:41,280 Speaker 3: All right, Gabby? 897 00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:44,960 Speaker 2: Right now, final question, you have an opportunity to offer 898 00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:48,759 Speaker 2: yourself a piece of advice. Let's maybe go back to 899 00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:52,440 Speaker 2: the beginning of your journey with Navarro. You have an 900 00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:55,480 Speaker 2: opportunity right now, looking back on your last few years 901 00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:58,439 Speaker 2: doing this, to offer yourself one piece of advice during 902 00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:01,000 Speaker 2: some of maybe the more difficult times. 903 00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:03,400 Speaker 3: What do you tell yourself. 904 00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:06,600 Speaker 1: I would definitely just say, like, during your hard times, 905 00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:12,840 Speaker 1: don't feel like you're alone, because everybody goes through things. 906 00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:15,920 Speaker 1: Everyone has their own battles that they're doing and they're facing, 907 00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:19,160 Speaker 1: and I think that it's important that you communicate those 908 00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:23,040 Speaker 1: things so that people can help you through situations. I 909 00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:25,640 Speaker 1: think that, yeah, people go through things all the time, 910 00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:27,879 Speaker 1: and you have to understand like you're not the only 911 00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:30,800 Speaker 1: one going through something. And I think that's staying strong 912 00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:33,319 Speaker 1: and like just reaching out to people when you do 913 00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:36,160 Speaker 1: need the help, Like you would be surprised at how 914 00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:37,680 Speaker 1: many people are there for you? 915 00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:41,160 Speaker 3: For sure, Gabby Butler, thank you so much for your 916 00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:43,680 Speaker 3: time today. How do the Hurdlers follow along with you? 917 00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:45,359 Speaker 3: How do they keep up with you? Give us all 918 00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:46,080 Speaker 3: your details. 919 00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:50,400 Speaker 1: So my Instagram is Gabby Butler sixteen seventeen, and a 920 00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:52,400 Speaker 1: lot of people ask me why it's sixteen seventeen. 921 00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:54,520 Speaker 4: So I actually made it when I was like twelve. 922 00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:58,680 Speaker 1: But the sixteen stands for my birthday because my birthday 923 00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:01,960 Speaker 1: is January sixteenth, and then my younger sister, Amanda's birthday's 924 00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:05,360 Speaker 1: February seventeen. The name Gabby Butler was taken, so I 925 00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:07,520 Speaker 1: was like, Okay, I guess I'm just gonna have to 926 00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:11,800 Speaker 1: use numbers. So Instagram's Gobby Butler sixteen seventeen. My YouTube 927 00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:15,400 Speaker 1: channel is literally just Gabby Butler. My TikTok is Gabby 928 00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:20,880 Speaker 1: Underscore Butler sixteen seventeen. And yeah, that's pretty much it. 929 00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:22,520 Speaker 1: I deleted Twitter because it's toxic. 930 00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:25,240 Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, what a big week for you, Geez 931 00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:28,399 Speaker 3: and New Steason premiere a birthday you have nothing going on? 932 00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:30,319 Speaker 3: Enjoy it. Happy birthday, guaB. 933 00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:33,720 Speaker 2: But I'm over at Hurdle Podcasts and at Emily Body 934 00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:35,400 Speaker 2: another hurdle conquered. 935 00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:36,760 Speaker 3: Catch you guys next time.